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L6[00:50:39] <Sandra> I like the look of
discord.
L7[00:50:40] <Sandra> wow.
L8[00:52:17] <Kodos> ~w io
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L11[01:20:23] <Sandra> whoa, pokemmo has
actually hit a update every couple of months as opposed to every 6
months.
L12[01:21:10] <Sandra> i'm gonna have to
start playing it again.
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L17[02:12:47] <Izaya> ~w gpu
L19[02:12:56] <Izaya> ~w eeprom
L21[02:14:47] <Izaya> can we get an
obfuscated lua competition?
L22[02:16:56] <dangranos> like..
L23[02:16:58] <dangranos> hm
L24[02:17:07] <dangranos> how that thing
with C was named?
L25[02:17:17] <dangranos> IOCCC?
L26[02:17:29] <Izaya> Maybe?
L27[02:17:41] <Izaya> Anyway, I have 162
chars that impliment most of init.lua
L28[02:18:47] <Izaya> ~w modem
L30[02:22:30] <dangranos> Izaya: wow
L31[02:22:38] <dangranos>
"most"?
L32[02:22:43] <Izaya> minus the loading
part
L33[02:22:55] <Izaya> it reads from EEPROM
and sends a modem message, and clears the screen though
L34[02:23:51] <dangranos> why would you
need init.lua that reads from eeprom?
L35[02:24:08] <Izaya> well it is the
EEPROM
L36[02:25:27] <Izaya> does setting an
EEPROM as read-only set the data as read-only?
L37[02:25:35] <Izaya> ~w computer
L39[02:25:43] <dangranos> i dont think
so
L40[02:25:49] <dangranos> though..
L41[02:26:18] <dangranos> hm
L42[02:32:56] <Izaya>
m:gsub('.',function(n)t[#t+1]=tonumber(n)end)
L43[02:38:31] <Izaya> 720 chars and I have
a nearly-functional dumb terminal
L44[02:39:44] <Izaya> it runs at a whopping
20 baud
L45[02:40:54] <Izaya> wait no
L46[02:41:05] <Izaya> 160 baud
L47[02:41:09] <Izaya> 20 byte/sec
L48[02:45:39] <Izaya> function cs() --check
sanity (returns false)
L50[02:47:56] <Izaya> read-only atm
L51[02:52:08] <Izaya> 860 chars for a full
dumb terminal
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L53[03:01:49] <dangranos> so, it's
something like telnet?
L54[03:02:41] <Izaya> sorta yeah
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L56[03:04:17] <dangranos> cs is
newline?
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L59[03:05:07] <Izaya> cs checks sanity - if
it's going to or has overflowed the screen
L60[03:06:05] <Skye> Hahaha
L61[03:06:44] <dangranos> now remove
newlines
L62[03:06:48] <dangranos> and
identation
L63[03:07:48] <Izaya> dangranos, once I've
made it work
L64[03:08:51] <dangranos> ah
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L66[03:21:54] <Izaya> IT LIVES
L67[03:27:52] <Izaya> so uh
L68[03:27:57] <Izaya> basic colourless dumb
terminals
L69[03:27:58] <Izaya> shiny
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L74[03:41:09] <Izaya> wat
L75[03:42:08] <Izaya> in other news
"This browser does not support video playback" Wrong, I
don't have Aderp Dull installed
L76[03:43:09] <Skye> Windows XP error
screens in stations
L77[03:46:51] <Izaya> oh fun
L78[03:47:28] <Negi> Love it when browsers
stop streaming video correctly because PulseAudio.
L79[03:47:55] <Skye> The big display isn't
affected
L80[04:00:17] <dangranos> Negi: heh
L81[04:02:42] <Izaya> should sending the
terminal a backspace remove a character or just move the
cursor?
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L87[04:11:14] <Izaya> okay, super-simple
dumb terminal created
L88[04:11:21] <Izaya> 1119C
L89[04:11:30] <Izaya> indented and
newlined
L90[04:15:56] <Izaya> 1016 chars
L92[04:16:13] <Izaya> 1007
L93[04:18:08] <Izaya> Sangar, can I request
a feature?
L94[04:18:14] <Izaya> A small amount of RAM
on APUs
L95[04:18:21] <Izaya> like 4k of RAM
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L97[04:18:59] <Izaya> if APUs had that much
you could boot this on a machine with just an APU and a network
card
L98[04:22:24] <Skye> AAPU ?
L100[04:22:40] <Skye> An APU with RAM is
an SoC
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L102[04:24:05] <Izaya> why not put the
network card on the chip too then?
L103[04:25:24] <Skye> The RPi doesn't have
a network card on the chip
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L109[04:54:07] <Izaya> right, added a
readme
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L111[05:12:07] <sharpturn> hello
all!
L112[05:12:39] <sharpturn> ok then
L113[05:12:42] <sharpturn> bye
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L116[05:17:21] <Izaya> all of 35
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L123[05:53:19] <Sangar> o/
L124[05:53:51] <Turtle> o/
L125[05:54:08] <Izaya> \o
L126[05:55:03] <Inari> o///
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L128[06:00:17] <Izaya> fuck
L129[06:00:25] <Izaya> forgot to set the
jumpers on the new IDE drive
L130[06:02:58] <Turtle> Still working with
IDE connectors? God help you.
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L132[06:13:45] <Sangar> ~o~
L133[06:13:48] <Sangar> progress
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L135[06:18:54] <Izaya> It's a bit late for
that, Turtle... "Twice the performance with Intel Pentium
III"
L136[06:19:12] <Turtle> yep. rip.
L137[06:20:27] <Turtle> (IntelliJ, could
you not attempt to index a maven repo until the heat-death of the
universe and just throw an error, thanks... .-.)
L138[06:22:14] <Sangar> offline mode
ftw
L139[06:22:47] <nxsupert> o/
L140[06:24:12] <Izaya> vim ftw
L141[06:26:39] <Izaya> okay, let's see if
Solaris will install on this box
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L143[06:28:55] <Skye> Turtle: I have a
160GB IDE drive in my NAS
L144[06:29:54] <Turtle> Wouldn't that
drive be faaaar over it's expected lifespan by now?
L145[06:30:05] <Izaya> I have 3 200GB IDE
drives in RAID5 in my old storage server
L146[06:30:10] <Skye> It wasn't used until
recently
L147[06:30:20] <Izaya> Oooooh, it looks
like Solaris likes this box! :D
L148[06:30:33] <Turtle> Skye, ah, xD
L149[06:31:01] <Izaya> iprb as a network
interface would probably be intel pro, right?
L150[06:31:04] <Skye> And I used a 40GB
one from a computer from 2004 in my desktop until 2013
L151[06:31:37] <Turtle> Random windows
explorer crash, alright.
L152[06:31:48] <Izaya> 5x36GB Ultra320
SCSI drives in RAID 6. Do I win?
L153[06:33:15] <Izaya> :o IT LIVESX
L154[06:33:21] <Izaya> s/X//g
L155[06:33:21] <Kibibyte> <Izaya> :o
IT LIVES
L156[06:33:34] <Izaya> why thank you,
Kibibyte
L157[06:34:17] <Izaya> :D detected the
hardware
L158[06:35:53] <Izaya> ... shit
L159[06:35:56] <Izaya> I need a name for
it
L160[06:42:08] <Skye> I want SCSI
drives...
L161[06:42:48] <Izaya> you don't
L162[06:42:55] <Izaya> fuck cable
terminators
L163[06:43:56] <Skye> My dad has a SCSI
scanner and ZIP drive for a macintosh
L164[06:44:53] <Sangar> moar progress
\o/
L165[06:45:10] <Sangar> crud. just
realized server gui needs a power button now
L166[06:45:24] <XDjackieXD> I have an scsi
tape drive and a server with 6x120gb sas hdds ^^ :P
L167[06:45:25] <Skye> Oops
L168[06:45:26] <Turtle> Does switching to
IDEA 15 count as progress too? :P
L169[06:45:26] <Sangar> but only when in
racks. gah. all the special cases :X
L170[06:45:41] <Sangar> i ... guess?
L171[06:45:51] <Skye> XDjackieXD:
jealous
L172[06:46:21] <Turtle> Nope no progress,
all the gradle is now bork. xD
L173[06:46:57] <XDjackieXD> skye this
server sits unsused in my basement. It uses about 500W idle, has 2
single core xeons and 5GB RAM :P (hp dl380 g4)
L174[06:47:20] <Skye> I wonder if I should
use laptop HDDs for my cheap NAS upgrade
L175[06:47:24] <Turtle> And, NOW, there is
progress, now to get that interpolation working
L176[06:47:53] <Skye> My cheap NAS uses
spare stuff, but I need more space so I need more hard
drives.
L177[06:49:35] <Skye> I don't know if I
should use laptop hard drives because I can fit in two of them into
a 3.5 inch drive space.
L178[06:49:48] <Izaya> how big is a drive
cylinder?
L179[06:50:16] <Izaya> 512 bytes
L180[06:50:20] <Izaya> okay
L181[06:50:24] <Izaya> #lua 512*1024
L182[06:50:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
524288
L183[06:51:06] <Izaya> #lua 619+77
L184[06:51:06] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
696
L185[06:52:14] <Magik6k> Wasn't 1 sector
512 bytes and cylinder having size of sector*drive platters
L186[06:52:59] <Skye> What's wrong with
LBA
L187[06:53:16] <Izaya> Solaris
L188[06:53:16] <Skye> Seriously, people
invented it for a reason
L189[06:53:38] <Skye> Why does it want
CHS
L190[06:53:39] <Skye> Why
L191[06:53:42] <Skye> What does it
gain
L193[06:54:17] <Vexatos>
whatdoyouthink
L194[06:55:26] <Izaya> Skye, nothing
L195[06:55:31] <Izaya> that's just all it
does
L196[06:56:02] <Skye> Is it bad even
possible to get CHS working on LBA stuff?
L197[06:56:12] <Magik6k> Vexatos, I see
code, what it's use?
L198[06:56:42] <Vexatos> it's a new method
idea for wrapped tables
L199[06:57:15] <Vexatos> you can
:call(somefunction) and it will call that function with the
internally stored table/string as the first parameter and any
further arguments you pass as other
L200[06:57:39] <Vexatos> it returns
whatever that function returns, but if it is a table or string
itself, it will wrap it again before returning
L201[06:58:08] <Magik6k> hmm
L202[06:58:10] <Magik6k> nice
L203[06:58:13] <Vexatos> so
basically
L204[06:59:07] <Vexatos>
$(sometbl):call((t->{1,2,3,4,5})) is equal to
$((t->{1,2,3,4,5})(sometbl))
L205[06:59:26] <Vexatos> with the obvious
difference that you don't need to skip to the beginning of the line
to call a function on that table
L206[06:59:45] <Vexatos> or to wrap it,
since it automatically wraps it for you
L207[07:02:42] <Turtle> ... I modified the
save data structure aaand it still loads old data. whatever.
L208[07:03:21] <Izaya> #lua 0xB
L209[07:03:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
11
L210[07:04:09] <Vexatos> soooo
L211[07:04:10] <Vexatos> uuuuuh
L212[07:05:15] <Vexatos> I have an
idea
L213[07:05:15] <Vexatos> I would like
Selene to do something
L214[07:05:15] <Vexatos> but I have no
idea how you would do it
L215[07:06:40] <Vexatos> modify some table
in parallel...
L216[07:06:41] <Vexatos> Hmmmm
L217[07:07:08] <Vexatos> totally
unnecessary since you have variables, but still
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L219[07:07:27] <Sangar> welp, had a clear
case of "why is this even working" right now. happens
when you take too long implementing something so you forget what
you already implemented >_>
L220[07:07:33] <Sangar> but yay, got a
booting server again
L222[07:11:08] <Vexatos> soooo
L223[07:11:13] <Vexatos> anyone get what I
mean?
L224[07:11:38] <Skye> Sangar: will server
racks automatically migrate
L226[07:11:47] <Vexatos> damn typos
L227[07:12:46] <Sangar> Skye, sortakinda,
maybe. haven't tested yet, but should. servers themselves will need
more special code, so i'm not sure i cba >_>
L228[07:12:56] <Vexatos> ...anyone?
L229[07:14:13] <Sangar> so you want to do
multiple transformations on one data set and merge them back
again?
L230[07:15:07] <Sangar> i actually think i
prefer the bottom version with the explicit variable; makes it much
clearer what you're doing
L231[07:15:57] <Vexatos> Sure
L232[07:16:00] <Vexatos> but OPTIONS
L233[07:16:20] <Vexatos> also,
"merge" would be literally anything
L234[07:16:36] <Vexatos> for instance a
:call(somefunthatneedstwotables, myothertable)
L235[07:17:28] <Izaya> gah, solaris seems
to fail to write to the disk
L236[07:17:36] <Turtle> ... damn it I
forgot to cast to double, .-.
L237[07:18:04] <Izaya> ah fuck it
L238[07:18:09] <Izaya> I'll custom-build a
box for solaris
L239[07:18:41] <Skye> What does Solaris
need?
L240[07:18:52] <Izaya> Well, considering
it was installing on a Pentium III
L241[07:18:53] <Izaya> not much
L242[07:19:00] <Izaya> but it freaks out
over something
L243[07:19:16] <Izaya> so I'll build an
Athlon 64 x2 box
L244[07:19:19] <Izaya> I have the parts
now
L245[07:20:01] <Izaya> I want a box to
play with CDE on
L246[07:20:32] <Turtle> Oooo, I think I
fixed interpolation
L247[07:20:47] <Skye> I wonder if it would
be possible to implement interrupts for Lua
L248[07:21:09] <Vexatos> Sangar, I just
think the idea is neat, but since I don't know how I'd implement
it, whatever
L249[07:21:14] <Turtle> Skye, what do you
mean?
L250[07:22:06] <Skye> Turtle: well... A
way that guarantees that some code will run due to something
L251[07:22:17] <Turtle> Custom error
handler? idk
L252[07:22:21] <Skye> So if you connected
it to a timer
L253[07:22:28] <Izaya> hardware-level
event listeners?
L254[07:22:36] <Skye> You could get a
preemptive OS
L255[07:23:22] <Skye> The ideal would be
cooperative with a preemptive failsafe
L256[07:23:54] <Skye> But an interrupt
system would also have more uses.
L257[07:24:31] <Turtle> \o/ IT
WOOORKS
L258[07:25:30] <Turtle> ... okay that was
not quite supposed to happen, might need to figure out what caused
that
L259[07:26:47] <Izaya> Is there a maximum
number of open ports for the network cards?
L260[07:27:06] <Izaya> ~w modem
L263[07:37:43] <Turtle> (Currently all
rotations take 10s, and it doesn't bother to check which direction
is the fastest, but, it works, and I think I fixed it randomly
switching 180 degrees)
L264[07:37:48] <Izaya> 16. Hrm.
L265[07:38:03] <Izaya> Okay, looks like
I'm going to be doing some abuse to make this work better.
L266[07:38:39] <Inari> Turtle: hm, its
pretty sneaky :P and you dont have to mess with anything weird like
the tiny wrolds mod had to do
L267[07:39:46] <Turtle> Inari, pretty
much, might have to do -some- hackery to disable linked cards, and
prevent things like the AE matter cannon from blowing up hull
blocks
L268[07:40:20] <Turtle> (I'm probably
going to do one of the oldschool right click to assemble
multiblocks, as checking if a spaceship hull is sealed all the time
would be madness)
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L270[07:41:03] <ds84182> Skye: Is
possible, but involves emulating Lua in Lua so you can control the
virtual machine like you control it with the real debug
library
L271[07:41:32] <Izaya> Fun times, I'm
adding a session ID header to DTP
L272[07:41:44] <Skye> Could you do it with
a patch to Lua?
L273[07:42:06] <ds84182> No, it's already
possible in Lua, but OC doesn't give out debug.sethook
L274[07:43:30] <Vexatos> Turtle, y u no
gfycat
L275[07:43:49] <Turtle> Does shareX
support that yet?
L276[07:44:19] <Turtle> also isn't gfycat
like, 15s max?
L277[07:44:33] <Vexatos> only when you
upload videos
L278[07:44:34] <Inari> shareX supports
everythign you add
L279[07:44:36] <Vexatos> not when you
upload gifs
L280[07:44:38] <Izaya> :D I updated
firefox and it added the per-tab muting
L282[07:45:41] <Turtle> ... then it lied
to me :P
L283[07:46:54] <Izaya> okay so dtp is port
23
L284[07:47:01] <Izaya> 1/16 needs to be
open
L285[07:49:07] <Skye> ds84182: and there's
no way to make setHi
L286[07:49:21] <Skye> setHook safe, I
guess
L287[07:49:34] <ds84182> Nope
L288[07:50:13] <Inari> :D I updated
firefox
L289[07:50:15] <Inari> its now
chrome
L290[07:50:24] <Izaya> FF 29?
L291[07:50:57] <Izaya> oh wait
L292[07:51:00] <Izaya> right
L293[07:51:31] <Inari> lol
L294[07:51:46] <Izaya> eh, I want my
90000001 addons
L295[07:52:19] <Vexatos> I am on FF
42
L296[07:52:36] <Izaya> 42.0
L297[07:54:31] <Vexatos> how does I mute a
tab
L298[07:54:39] <Izaya> if it's playing
audio
L299[07:54:42] <Izaya> there'll be an
icon
L300[07:54:49] <Izaya> click it and it'll
mute that tab
L301[07:56:07] <Vexatos> :O
L302[07:56:09] <Vexatos> O :
L303[07:57:39] <Inari> should have an
option to pre-emptively mute
L304[07:57:44] <Izaya> indeed
L305[07:57:47] <Izaya> can't find one
though
L306[07:57:58] <Izaya> wait yes
L307[07:58:08] <Izaya>
dom.audiochannel.mutedByDefault
L308[07:58:31] <Izaya> :D
L309[07:59:40] <XDjackieXD> hmmm should I
have my lasers do random bitflips depending on distance and
component tier? :P
L310[08:08:21] <Turtle> XDjackieXD, I
guess
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L314[08:19:53] <Turtle> ... aparently 90 *
(10/360) is now 0
L315[08:19:59] <Turtle> I need more
coffee.
L316[08:28:27] <Daiyousei> use
doubles
L317[08:28:29] <Daiyousei> or floats
L318[08:28:42] <gamax92> or not what youre
currently using
L319[08:29:03] <Daiyousei> wot
L320[08:32:36] <Turtle> gamax92, yep, I
keep occasionally forgetting computers are incredibly literal
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L328[09:59:15] <Negi> Oh, looks like my
bootloader won't let OpenOS run with one T1 RAM stick. :7
L329[10:00:39] *
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L331[10:15:53] *
Lizzy pets vifino
L332[10:16:28] *
vifino purrs
L333[10:40:33] <Mimiru> Ugh I have to dig
my POE injector out
L334[10:40:44] <Mimiru> and hope I can put
this 1142n AP into client mode ¬_¬
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L336[11:02:24] <vifino> Vexatos: selene
pattern matching when
L337[11:03:56] <Vexatos> vifino, whenever
you find a way for me to do it
L338[11:04:08] <Vexatos> using only Lua's
string pattern system
L339[11:04:26] <Vexatos> without
increasing compile time by a factor of 2 or more
L340[11:07:07] <Vexatos> because I would
love to have it
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L343[11:17:10] <vifino> Vexatos: implement
a case structure: case x\nwhen {"abc", a, b} or
something
L344[11:17:22] <Vexatos> blahblah
L345[11:17:26] <Vexatos> I know how
pattern matching works
L346[11:17:32] <Vexatos> but I do not know
how to detect it
L347[11:17:35] <Vexatos> that is the
issue
L348[11:17:36] <Daiyousei> but dont use
aids syntax
L349[11:17:47] <Vexatos> I have a chunk of
code and I need to detect pattern matching
L350[11:17:59] <Vexatos> inside of
it
L351[11:18:04] <Vexatos> that is the hard
part
L352[11:18:39] <vifino> I dunno.
L353[11:19:00] <Vexatos> I mean, find me
some syntax that is a) easy to write and b) easy to parse
L354[11:19:46] <Daiyousei> match var {(a,
b, c) => function() end}
L355[11:19:47] <Daiyousei> idk
L356[11:19:49] <Daiyousei> lel
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L363[11:56:33] <Kodos> ~w stdin
L365[12:02:16] <Kodos> hackerrank.com is
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L396[15:55:48] <Kodos> ~w table
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L401[16:15:44] <TotallyNotKatie> %sed
enable
L402[16:15:48] <MichiBot> TotallyNotKatie:
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L407[16:41:24] <Wembly> anyone have a good
ide beyond notepad++?
L408[16:43:18] <Temia> Sublime Text is
surprisingly scalable to make an effective code editor.
L409[16:43:49] <Temia> I initially steered
away from it as an /opt package, but it won me over for its
efficiency despite that
L410[16:43:57] <Negi> Yes, Sublime's
good.
L411[16:44:34] <Wembly> any different than
notepad++?
L412[16:47:26] <Negi> Very.
L413[16:49:25] <Wembly> what's it
add?
L414[16:51:06] <Wembly> nm
L415[16:51:13] <Wembly> i'll find out in a
sec, installing it now :)
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L417[16:51:24] <Negi> A lot of things that
aren't obvious at first.
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L419[16:51:49] <Wembly> i know it has the
mutli-select where you don't need the same column.
L420[16:51:57] <Wembly> err mutli-edit, i
dont recall what they call that.
L421[16:52:06] <Negi> Projects, split
views, finding across projects, regex search-and-replace, python
scripting, multi edition, instance selection...
L422[16:52:22] <Wembly> instance
selection?
L423[16:52:33] <Negi> Like you have a
variable named "foo" in your code.
L424[16:53:10] <Negi> You can press
repeatedly Ctrl+D to select the next instances of "foo"
in your code, and edit the name everywhere at once.
L425[16:53:35] <Wembly> cool
L426[16:53:50] <Wembly> whats changed
between version 2 and 3?
L427[16:57:18] <CompanionCube> Wembly,
Atom's also a good choice
L428[16:57:36] <CompanionCube> similar to
sublime but open sauce
L429[17:02:18] <Negi> Wembly: I have no
idea, I only use V3 most of the time.
L430[17:02:41] <Negi> CompanionCube: Meh,
last time I tried it it took years to start.
L431[17:05:47] *
Temia henshin poses!
L432[17:05:53] <Temia> Oh, Sublime Text 3
you mean
L433[17:05:55] *
Temia droops.
L434[17:12:23] <Wembly> k
L435[17:12:24] <Wembly> ty
L436[17:18:51] <ds84182> Atom is not a
good choice.
L437[17:19:11] <ds84182> Unless you have
enough memory to literally run a second instance of Google
Chrome
L438[17:19:14] <ds84182> And the
tolerance
L439[17:21:49] <CompanionCube> ds84182,
you're right there
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L450[19:12:12] <Izaya> vim best
editor
L451[19:16:12] <CompanionCube>
hehehe
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L454[19:29:52] <Sandra> hmm, should I head
to kanto or stay in hoenn.
L455[19:30:19] <Izaya> since when did gen
3 have another reigon?
L456[19:30:33] <Kodos> Since PokeMMO
L457[19:30:38] <Izaya> ohok
L458[19:30:45] <Sandra> pokemmo is my
bae.
L459[19:30:47] <Sandra> i love it.
L460[19:32:57] <Sandra> Izaya, have you
played pokemmo?
L461[19:33:01] <Sandra> you should play
it.
L462[19:34:10] <Izaya> I don't have any
time as it is
L463[19:34:17] <Turtle> Didn't nintendo
copyright-nuke that?
L464[19:38:13] <Turtle> huhm, aparently
not.
L465[19:39:23] <Turtle> Oooo, clever
bastards. They use rom data.
L466[19:40:02] <Sandra> yep.
L467[19:40:22] <Sandra> it's based off
roms so nintendo can't really nuke it.
L468[19:40:31] <Sandra> and the website's
art is all original.
L469[19:40:39] <Sandra> and so is the
game's art.
L470[19:40:58] <Sandra> I mean, they
probably could nuke it if they wanted to.
L471[19:41:11] <Sandra> but it's not
clearcut.
L472[19:41:40] <Turtle> well yeah, but
realisticly nintendo has enough money to lawyer-nuke just about
anyone for anything, so it's just about making it too hard to
bother
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L475[20:13:50] <sugoi> Kodos: awake?
L476[20:14:10] <Sandra> yeah.
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L478[20:14:17] <Sandra> oh he's
gone.
L479[20:14:27] <Sandra> or.... they.
L480[20:14:33] <sugoi> it
L481[20:14:37] <sugoi> he's a cyborg
L482[20:14:41] <sugoi> it's* :P
L483[20:15:20] <sugoi> Sandra: you use
openos?
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L485[20:15:55] <Sandra> sugoi, well, I
normally do yes.
L486[20:16:00] <Sandra> in oc.
L487[20:16:04] <sugoi> just fishing for
opinions here
L488[20:16:09] <sugoi> openos needs to
stay simple
L489[20:16:13] <Sandra> yeah.
L490[20:16:23] <sugoi> if we were to add a
file, that users are free to ignore...
L491[20:16:31] <sugoi> but it'd be added
to /etc/
L492[20:16:41] <sugoi> do you opine that
would increase complexity? or is that fair?
L493[20:16:42] <Sandra> openos needs to
stay where it is right now, maybe additional programs or something
but no changing the internals of it.
L494[20:16:50] <Sandra> what would this
file be?
L495[20:16:58] <Sandra> for?
L496[20:17:07] <sugoi> Sandra: i'm
somewhat involved with adding to it, upgrading it
L497[20:17:15] <sugoi>
/etc/DIR_COLORS
L498[20:17:22] <sugoi> for LS_COLORS, for
ls coloring
L499[20:17:28] <sugoi> just considering
adding it
L500[20:17:32] <Sandra> right?
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L502[20:17:38] <sugoi> i'm rewriting ls
atm
L503[20:17:55] <sugoi> ive been working on
the other /bin/ tools, ls is next
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L506[20:18:37] <sugoi> i'll just add it,
and if sangr preers, i'll hardcode the colors
L507[20:18:41] <sugoi> prefers*
L508[20:18:49] <Sandra> nah, that'd be
fine.
L509[20:18:52] <Sandra> imo.
L510[20:19:03] <sugoi> well, your o is
what i came for
L511[20:19:04] <sugoi> :)
L512[20:19:05] <Sandra> better than
hardcoding the colors.
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L514[20:19:19] <sugoi> agreed, but, simple
openos trumps
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L516[20:19:31] <sugoi> there's a
balance
L517[20:20:04] <Sandra> well, imo the
basic ls shouldn't /have/ colors.
L518[20:20:11] <sugoi> >.<
L519[20:20:14] <sugoi> :)
L520[20:20:23] <Sandra> but y'know.
L521[20:20:47] <Kodos> sugoi, wat
L522[20:20:53] <sugoi> go back to
bed
L523[20:21:02] *
sugoi gives Kodos some hot cocoa
L524[20:22:49] <sugoi> Sandra: better idea
(imo :P) i'll default to hard coded colors, and add LS_COLORS
separately (a later pr)
L525[20:23:06] <Sandra> \_o_/
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L529[20:52:23] <sugoi> i have a user
asking me about oc automation. detect() doesn't give enough info to
determine the age of wheat
L530[20:52:26] <sugoi> alternative
solutions?
L531[20:59:50] <Kodos> IIRC there was a
branch of OC that had work started on a farming upgrade
L532[20:59:53] <Kodos> But was never
finished
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L540[22:03:53] <leagris> Hello, Any build
of computronics compatible with Railcraft 9.8.0.0?
L541[22:09:08] <Kodos> leagris, latest
should be
L542[22:13:57] <leagris> latest dev build
crash
L543[22:14:49] <leagris> ah ouch, did not
remember computronics was a different jar than core OCC
L544[22:22:13] <Kodos> Remember to update
AsieLib too
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L549[23:10:35] <leagris>
Computronics-1.7.10-1.5.9 and AsieLib-1.7.10-0.4.4 = crash
L551[23:34:16] <sugoi> Kodos: do you
happen to know the size of disk cost for a sym link? (in
openos)
L552[23:35:38] <Temia> Isn't it
512b?
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L554[23:37:04] <sugoi> don't know - i want
to make my ls smarter
L555[23:37:18] <sugoi> fs.size of a sym
link returns the size of the target
L556[23:37:46] <sugoi> 512b sounds like a
reasonably good guess at worst
L557[23:38:13] <Izaya> openos symlinks
aren't actually there
L558[23:38:20] <Izaya> they're in
RAM
L559[23:38:48] <sugoi> oh right!
L560[23:38:51] <sugoi> they don't
persist
L561[23:39:02] <sugoi> so when reporting
disk usage might as well report 0
L562[23:39:15] <Izaya> it would be
possible to make them persist
L563[23:39:19] <sugoi> thanks Izaya
L564[23:39:19] <Izaya> but it never got
done
L565[23:39:40] <sugoi> Izaya: i made a
modification to openos once to persist sym links - but i didn't
like the quality of the code
L566[23:39:55] <Izaya> we could always
have a /etc/fstab
L567[23:39:57] <Izaya> do we have one
yet?
L568[23:40:03] <Izaya> and use a bind
mount type
L569[23:40:12] <Izaya> that just creates a
symlink at boot
L570[23:40:48] <sugoi> that's very close
to how my modification worked - but wasn't a true fstab
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L575[23:56:12] <leagris> Any idea of what
combo version of computronics asielub and RC9.8 is
compatible?