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L4[00:18:26] <Noob> Transposers are broken on 1.8 or what? Not a single transferItem() command works
L5[00:19:35] <Kodos> Can you show me the code oyu're using?
L6[00:20:02] <Noob> =component.transposer.transferItem(sides.left, sides.right)
L7[00:20:07] <Noob> in lua interpreter
L8[00:20:22] <Noob> tried swapping sides - no results
L9[00:22:06] <Kodos> You have to use absolute directions
L10[00:22:11] <Kodos> Since there's no 'front' of the transposer
L11[00:22:16] <Kodos> So sides.north
L12[00:22:17] <Kodos> etc
L13[00:23:38] <Noob> oh wow that actually worked, thanks :O
L14[00:23:45] <Kodos> Yep =)
L15[00:28:04] <Noob> and what does even .store() method do then?
L16[00:28:21] <Noob> why theres no description on wiki or manual about transposers ._.
L17[00:29:49] <Kodos> ~w transposer
L18[00:29:49] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-assert
L19[00:29:53] <Kodos> Ah, hm
L20[00:29:54] <Kodos> Well
L21[00:29:56] <Kodos> Hang on
L22[00:30:01] <Noob> Thats what im talking about
L23[00:30:14] <Kodos> Ah
L24[00:30:32] <Kodos> It reads the information of an item in a certain slot of whatever inventory on the transposer, and can then store it in a database
L25[00:30:40] <Kodos> (The database item, not an actual database)
L26[00:31:43] <Noob> Oh lol
L27[00:35:14] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/kIsUF/f6c7034d76.png
L28[00:35:17] <Kodos> There is that
L29[00:35:19] <Kodos> brb
L30[00:37:13] <Noob> Hm
L31[00:37:38] <Noob> Apparently chunkloader upgrades are only keeping alive the computers they're installed in, not chunks :\
L32[00:38:04] <Kodos> Those things are mostly for robots afaik
L33[00:38:43] <Noob> Yeah so hm... Is there a way to install this upgrade to a computer or make a robot that will connect to the cable network and emmit "WAKE UP" signal?
L34[00:39:29] <Kodos> Only thing that immediately comes to mind is a redstone IO block, timer gate, and setting the wake threshold to whatever the gate puts out
L35[00:39:54] <Noob> Does redstone actually wake up microcontroller?
L36[00:40:17] <Kodos> As long as it's the card inside of the controller, it should
L37[00:40:23] <Kodos> But
L38[00:40:23] <Kodos> Hm
L39[00:40:30] <Kodos> Not sure actually, since MCUs are coded at hardware level
L40[00:53:36] <Izaya> you need to specify a message to send to wake something across a network
L41[00:53:59] <Noob> setWakeMessage?
L42[00:54:09] <Kodos> Izaya, we're talking redstone
L43[00:54:12] <Kodos> Not network wake
L44[00:54:29] <Noob> but yeah microcontrollers im using dont have network cards
L45[00:54:50] <Noob> and they still go off when chunk is unloaded. worst part of it is... no chunkloaders for 1.8 except OC
L46[00:55:04] <Noob> I tried to do trick with robot and chunkloader upgrade
L47[00:55:15] <Noob> placed robot right beneath the micro
L48[00:55:30] <Noob> next time i return - robot is working and microcontroller is shut down ._.
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L51[01:02:07] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
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L57[01:29:02] <Noob> By the way
L58[01:29:11] <Noob> How exactly randomness of nanomachines work?
L59[01:29:26] <Noob> I have like 5 effects which actually do something and rest do like nothing at all lol
L60[01:29:48] <Noob> What to do with those effects? Or i have to reconfigure nanomachines?
L61[01:30:05] <Kodos> You'd have to reconfigure or get a new set of nanos to get a new set of randomized effects
L62[01:30:40] <Turtle> They basicly have a list of possible effects of which you can turn on a limited amount
L63[01:30:45] <Turtle> reconfigure randomizes the effects
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L65[01:43:48] <IzayaPhone> welp
L66[01:44:16] <IzayaPhone> power's out, won't be back till it is.
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L69[01:58:12] <Spookdra> Kodos, (wrt your latest tweet) huh?
L70[01:58:24] <Kodos> Something Crazypants tweeted
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L72[02:18:09] <Noob> transposers cant actually fill a room right?
L73[02:18:17] <Noob> i mean fill into more than 1 block
L74[02:19:36] <Kodos> They can fill to any adjacent inventory, but I'm pretty sure pipes count
L75[02:20:32] <Turtle> ?
L76[02:20:48] <Turtle> What are you trying to do?
L77[02:22:55] <Noob> Anti-TNT system
L78[02:23:16] <Noob> If an intruder gets in the room, well, fill all up
L79[02:29:39] <Kodos> Oooh new Galacticraft dev builds allow the Oxygen Sealer machine to also warm the sealed area
L80[02:29:42] <Kodos> So no need for thermal padding
L81[02:30:07] <Noob> Is galacticraft even developing much? :\
L82[02:30:23] <Noob> They were so loud on new features and now went total silent
L83[02:31:24] <Kodos> That's because Radfast is a shit
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L85[02:31:34] <Kodos> Mic's tinkering with it when he can, but he's working with Schema and StarMade nowadays
L86[02:31:50] <Noob> Whats the radfast's problem lol
L87[02:32:18] <Kodos> Not sure, but every time I've interacted with him he's been rude
L88[02:36:09] <Noob> Actually
L89[02:36:23] <Noob> Development of GC now is even slower than it was when mitch was in charge ._.
L90[02:37:00] <Noob> The only thing radfast did is that stupid astro miner
L91[02:39:25] <Turtle> Not really sure if I like galacticraft's way of being so standalone either tbh.
L92[02:40:15] <Turtle> I know there's an api, but it's pretty limited from memory .-.
L93[02:40:29] <Kodos> Noob, Radfast started on the comms dish too
L94[02:40:52] <Noob> Kodos: hm? Comms dish?
L95[02:41:05] <Kodos> I believe it was in as of build 350
L96[02:41:15] <Kodos> I could be wrong
L97[02:45:52] <Noob> What the hell is communication dish lol
L98[02:47:24] <Turtle> vOv
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L100[02:47:45] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/kIxZm/cb9c1b1754.png
L101[02:48:03] <Turtle> ... lol programmer art.
L102[02:48:07] <Noob> Is it doing anything?
L103[02:48:21] <Kodos> Rotating
L104[02:48:47] <Noob> So right now it does absolutely nothing? Just fancy block? Not even a computer interface or anything? lol
L105[02:48:54] <Kodos> I did say 'started on'
L106[02:49:06] <Kodos> Gonna go watch TV in Chrome now :3
L107[02:49:20] <Turtle> iirc. OpenRadio want to do something with satellites, eventually, :P
L108[02:50:38] <Turtle> gah, it looks like I'll have to implement my own network checking for fluxducts, woo .-.
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L110[02:53:46] <Spookdra> Advanced Rocketry #1
L111[02:53:57] <Spookdra> vote +1 advanced rocketry.
L112[02:54:05] <Spookdra> it already has more in it than galacticraft.
L113[02:54:11] <Kodos> Link?
L114[02:54:46] <Spookdra> http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/Minecraft/236542-advanced-rocketry
L115[02:55:10] <Spookdra> it doesn't have fuel or oxygen.
L116[02:55:16] <Spookdra> though it's new.
L117[02:55:29] <Spookdra> but the rest.
L118[02:55:41] <Spookdra> is just like galacticraft.
L119[02:55:46] <Spookdra> but with multiblocks.
L120[02:56:02] <Spookdra> pretty pretty multiblocks.
L121[02:56:08] <Spookdra> YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN ROCKET.
L122[02:56:11] <Spookdra> it's great.
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L126[03:27:25] <Kodos> You failed to mention it's not available to the public to download
L127[03:30:52] <Turtle> o/
L128[03:31:30] <Turtle> "not available to the public to download" HOIST THE SAILS /s
L129[03:33:10] <Kodos> Ah, nevermind, found it
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L131[03:34:25] <IzayaTab> internet pls
L132[03:34:38] <Turtle> o/
L133[03:34:54] <IzayaTab> my bouncer is dead
L134[03:35:02] <IzayaTab> well
L135[03:35:33] <IzayaTab> it's probably still there, but I cba to get off the couch
L136[03:36:12] <Turtle> ... you don't have a killswitch on the bouncer?
L137[03:36:35] <IzayaTab> wat
L138[03:36:40] <IzayaTab> the power went out
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L140[03:37:16] <IzayaTab> and I assume it either suspended or hibernated like a good lapserver
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L142[03:38:02] <Turtle> oh, lol
L143[03:38:10] <Turtle> I thought you wanted it out of the channel
L144[03:39:39] <Noob> Damn... this rocketry mod... lol
L145[03:39:45] <Noob> I like the idea a lot
L146[03:39:58] <Noob> And I wouldnt underestimate it
L147[03:42:16] <Turtle> Galacticraft?
L148[03:42:36] <Noob> http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/Minecraft/236542-advanced-rocketry this one I meant
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L150[03:43:52] <Turtle> ugh. WHY ARE LAPTOP USB PORTS SO BAD
L151[03:44:18] <SnowDapples> They are?
L152[03:45:25] <Turtle> Every single laptop I've owned has usb ports that completely corrode right away
L153[03:46:23] <IzayaTab> There are also never enough
L154[03:46:36] <IzayaTab> Where are my 6 USB ports?
L155[03:46:53] <IzayaTab> Learn from Lenovo, people
L156[03:46:59] <Turtle> I've got 3 on this laptop, but I need to reinsert a dozen time because packard bell are lousy cheapscates
L157[03:47:08] <IzayaTab> put the ports vertically
L158[03:47:14] <IzayaTab> and you can fit more
L159[03:47:35] <Turtle> 'But muh thin laptop' - Dumb consumers everywhere
L160[03:48:13] <IzayaTab> I want an updated T400
L161[03:48:28] <IzayaTab> Like it doesn't have as many ports as I liked
L162[03:48:37] <IzayaTab> but those fuckers are solid
L163[03:48:44] <IzayaTab> also
L164[03:48:51] <IzayaTab> Ports on the BACK
L165[03:49:02] <IzayaTab> I want ports on the BACK >.<
L166[03:49:10] <Turtle> I feel like laptops should drop the expresscard thing and have an internal compartiment for a single usb device if it can be fit in
L167[03:49:33] <Turtle> as in, for things like wifi/bluetooth/whatever antennae
L168[03:49:50] <Lizzy> IzayaTab, I'm fine with my 3 USB3 ports
L169[03:49:57] <IzayaTab> Expresscard?
L170[03:50:08] <IzayaTab> I have no USB3 devices
L171[03:50:20] <IzayaTab> so I want my 9001 USB2 ports
L172[03:50:35] <Turtle> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExpressCard
L173[03:50:48] <Turtle> TLDR: It's like external PCIe for laptops or something
L174[03:50:56] <Spookdra> 3 youtube channels that I'm subbed to released the MC:Story Mode lets play at the same time.
L175[03:51:02] <Spookdra> nice.
L176[03:51:19] <Turtle> you could put peripherals in the slot, or usb expanders/whatever
L177[03:51:25] <Spookdra> and guess what one I'm watching?
L178[03:51:25] <Turtle> but it never seemed to take off really well
L179[03:51:26] <Spookdra> None of them.
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L182[03:52:44] <IzayaTab_> fuck WiFi
L183[03:53:02] <Turtle> fuck non gold-plated connectors >.>
L184[03:53:27] <Lizzy> Turtle: i've never had a problem with my stuff
L185[03:53:27] <IzayaTab_> I switch to Firefox for like 20 seconds
L186[03:53:40] <IzayaTab_> and it drops the connection
L187[03:53:46] <IzayaTab_> fuck yoi too
L188[03:53:55] <Noob> Well my HP has quite strong ports here
L189[03:54:13] <Turtle> Lizzy, odd, I've been screwed over my 'regular' connectors way too often
L190[03:54:13] <IzayaTab_> USB for the card interface sounds cool
L191[03:54:24] <Noob> Also quite a lot of power in these USB ports too. I was even able to boot RPi str8 from USB port :D
L192[03:54:26] <Turtle> having to replug a flash drive 10 times before it works is annoying.
L193[03:55:08] <IzayaTab_> I have a 600X with CardBus, never used it though
L194[03:55:27] <Turtle> IzayaTab_ yep, that's why it sucks, no-one ever uses it
L195[03:55:42] <IzayaTab_> would be nice to have ethernet on it though
L196[03:55:49] <Turtle> And, to be clear, regarding my rant, I'm talking host-side, the flash drive itself not being gold-plated is acceptable
L197[03:56:04] <IzayaTab_> or wifi
L198[03:56:13] <Lizzy> Turtle, my work laptop is probably about 4 or 5 years old now, i've had it for just under a year and people had it before me
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L200[03:57:18] <Turtle> This laptop has seen a bit of abuse (Minor moisture) but that's a given in this country .-.
L201[03:57:43] <IzayaTab_> what laptop?
L202[03:58:34] <Turtle> let me check, it's a generic packard bell, which is an acer subsidairy
L203[03:58:52] <IzayaTab_> ew
L204[03:58:54] <IzayaTab_> acer
L205[03:59:07] <Turtle> PEW91
L206[03:59:23] <Turtle> It was not originally my laptop, and I am buying a new one soon(tm)
L207[03:59:48] <IzayaTab_> If you have the money, T450 seems nice except the keyboard
L208[04:00:24] <Turtle> Student loans are at incredibly friendly interest rates now, so it's not out of consideration
L209[04:01:11] <Turtle> The main problem is I need it to survive running a virtualized dev enviroment and database servers, ugh.
L210[04:01:30] <IzayaTab_> upgrade to max RAM
L211[04:01:37] <IzayaTab_> get the i7 version
L212[04:01:52] <IzayaTab_> 5th-gen intel processors
L213[04:02:29] <Turtle> eh, i7 is probably not required
L214[04:02:41] <Turtle> that said, maybe because laptop i7s are crummy .-.
L215[04:02:48] <Turtle> *i5s are crummy
L216[04:04:12] <Lizzy> mine isn't too bad
L217[04:04:31] <Lizzy> then again i haven't done much cpu intensive stuff
L218[04:04:32] <Turtle> I ment compared to the desktop versions :p
L219[04:04:37] <Lizzy> ah
L220[04:04:54] <Turtle> Desktop i7s are basicly just marketinbloat for prebuilts, no idea how it is with laptops
L221[04:05:01] <Turtle> *marketingbloat
L222[04:05:12] <IzayaTab_> xeon > i7 for desktop
L223[04:05:42] <Turtle> pretty much
L224[04:06:00] <IzayaTab_> $100 less, same features, somewhat slower clock
L225[04:06:27] <IzayaTab_> maaaybe more cache, don't remember though
L226[04:06:44] <Turtle> you don't buy intel for the clock anyway
L227[04:06:57] <IzayaTab_> still
L228[04:06:59] * Lizzy might go get some food
L229[04:07:09] <IzayaTab_> intel with high clock is best of both worlds
L230[04:07:18] * Kathleen raises a cup of tea to #oc
L231[04:07:18] <IzayaTab_> high IPC, high clock
L232[04:07:34] <Turtle> true
L233[04:07:53] <Turtle> Xeon is also somewhat better tooled towards multitasking iirc
L234[04:08:24] <Kathleen> Also Xeons (and all Server CPUs in general) Have more cache than their Desktop equivalent. Not that it matters in most cases anyway
L235[04:08:30] <Lizzy> Xeon has more but slower cores
L236[04:08:37] <Turtle> ^ Yep
L237[04:08:40] <Lizzy> generally speaking
L238[04:08:44] <Turtle> latest models are up to 18 iirc
L239[04:09:02] <IzayaTab_> I heard about 72 cores with HT somewhere
L240[04:09:36] <Lizzy> IzayaTab_, yep, hold on i'll find a video of it
L241[04:10:17] <IzayaTab_> 4790k and Xeon E3 1231 v3 has same cache
L242[04:10:39] <Turtle> I still need to see if I can get some atx rack cases somewhere cheaply.
L243[04:10:53] <Lizzy> IzayaTab_, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48A_Yqj965c
L244[04:10:56] * IzayaTab_ wants rack cases
L245[04:11:12] <IzayaTab_> too cheap to buy any though
L246[04:11:14] * Lizzy prods MichiBot
L247[04:11:46] <Turtle> heh, some of the cheaper models are acceptable in price, but not good enough to securely mount onto a lack .-.
L248[04:12:03] <Lizzy> lack? is this a new type of rack?
L249[04:12:20] <Turtle> It's the tiny square ikea coffeetable
L250[04:12:22] <IzayaTab_> lack rack
L251[04:12:27] <IzayaTab_> ikea tables
L252[04:12:30] <Lizzy> right, what's the bet my laptop is going to sleep when i shut it's lid
L253[04:12:31] * vifino flops on Lizzy and purrs
L254[04:12:31] <Turtle> It happens to have the right dimensions for a 19" rack
L255[04:12:56] <Turtle> https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack <- This
L256[04:13:03] * Lizzy pets and puts vifino on her shoulders and heads off to get food
L257[04:13:18] * vifino holds onto Lizzy
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L259[04:29:07] <Lizzy> wat
L260[04:29:19] <Lizzy> my laptop is RSyncing something at 80MB/s
L261[04:29:28] <Lizzy> from work
L262[04:29:33] <Lizzy> that doesn't normally happen
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L264[04:34:02] <Lizzy> and it tanked at 90%
L265[04:34:07] <Lizzy> oh well
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L268[04:38:06] <Turtle> .. blergh for some reason I now feel like OC tablets with a keyboard should have a laptop-like icon
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L270[04:41:56] <Turtle> hmh, should be possible with an addon-mod to add a keyboard-stand thingy that allows placing the tablet in the world, no?
L271[04:42:40] <Lizzy> potentially, yes. you'd need to have a way for the table to 'tick' though as if it was in a player inventory
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L273[04:44:13] <Turtle> hmh, doesn't that work in regular inventories too?
L274[04:44:18] <Lizzy> no
L275[04:44:22] <Lizzy> they don't tick
L276[04:45:00] <Turtle> oh, right, I forgot, what I was thinking about was a hacky way of making items tick in non-ticking inventories.
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L279[04:47:59] <Turtle> Will probably have to look up inventories/etc again anyway, probably changed already
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L283[05:02:29] <Kathleen> Turtle: I think MineChem does something like that for its decaying mechanims. Maybe have a look at their code?
L284[05:02:49] <Turtle> Yeah, I know, iirc they did something hacky to tick the items, not inventories
L285[05:02:52] <Turtle> but I am not sure at all
L286[05:03:12] <Turtle> iirc, timestamps in nbt
L287[05:03:52] <Turtle> *as in, it'll figure out how many ticks have passed and retroactively apply them.
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L291[05:15:34] <Izaya> fuck storms
L292[05:15:51] <SnowDapples> but without the express card slot, I couldn't store my mouse I:
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L295[05:18:37] <Izaya> fuck off me
L296[05:18:50] <SnowDapples> nor charge it
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L298[05:19:06] <Noob> Laptop i7? They are hot t.t
L299[05:19:52] <Izaya> i7s in laptops are overrated
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L302[05:21:39] <Noob> Why, the performance is good lol
L303[05:22:21] <Izaya> kills battery life
L304[05:22:30] <Izaya> I want a laptop I can keep running all day\
L305[05:22:37] <Izaya> I want it to be solid
L306[05:22:43] <Izaya> and I don't want it to look like it's made by Apple
L307[05:22:48] <Izaya> as such I have a HP from 2010
L308[05:23:00] <Izaya> no chasis but relatively solid
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L310[05:23:05] <Noob> Well depends on how ur using ur laptop
L311[05:23:14] <Noob> I use mine as desktop replacement haha
L312[05:23:21] <Izaya> I have a desktop as a desktop
L313[05:23:37] <Noob> Well I dont have one for certain reasons :\
L314[05:23:48] <Izaya> and I'm getting a Xeon 1231 v3 to replace the i3 in it on...the 24th
L315[05:24:05] <Izaya> I wonder if I could use a Xeon instead of an i7 in a laptop
L316[05:24:22] <Izaya> you'd run cooler and get the same performance roughly
L317[05:25:02] <Noob> Speaking of intels in laptop
L318[05:25:13] <Noob> To be honest I dont see much of the point for low power one
L319[05:25:19] <Noob> Except for battery life
L320[05:25:30] <Izaya> which laptops are meant to be good at
L321[05:25:38] <Noob> All laptops I've seen (except some pro ones) are hot as hell
L322[05:25:39] <Izaya> though if you don't need the battery life
L323[05:25:56] <Izaya> even my laptop's i3 can hit a notable temperature
L324[05:26:06] <Noob> My i7 is hot only when I'm doing some extensive using at least
L325[05:26:34] <Izaya> my i3 is hot when I try to do 3D
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L327[05:26:52] <Noob> Like watching fullhd youtube videos while compiling some stuff in a virtual machine and having like 100 tabs open, I may hit... 70C
L328[05:27:05] <Izaya> full HD?
L329[05:27:10] <Izaya> your laptop has a full HD screen?
L330[05:27:20] <Izaya> :<
L331[05:27:25] <Noob> well its bigger than HD but lower than fullhd
L332[05:27:33] <Izaya> oic
L333[05:27:44] <Izaya> 1680xwhatever?
L334[05:28:00] <Noob> My laptop also runs fine 4K trailers with 60 fps... in software mode lol
L335[05:28:08] <Izaya> 1440 or 1600?
L336[05:28:17] <Noob> 1440 i think
L337[05:28:23] <Izaya> 1440x900?
L338[05:28:28] <Noob> Something like that
L339[05:28:38] <Izaya> I have two 1440x900 screens on my desktop, plus a 1600x900 in the middle
L340[05:28:42] <Izaya> they were all free :D
L341[05:29:17] <Noob> Haha
L342[05:30:17] <Noob> Well, I also have 6770M as graphics card and about 16GB of RAM lol. Most of the time temperature is around 65-70C but thats because I almost never shut down my VM with debian lol
L343[05:31:13] * vifino sqeezes Lizzy and falls asleep on her again
L344[05:31:30] * Lizzy pets vifino and goes back to configuring switches
L345[05:31:33] <Izaya> Desktop is i3 4160, 8GB RAM, 1.12TB HDD, GTX750Ti
L346[05:31:45] <Izaya> Laptop is i3 370M, 4GB RAM, 250GB HDD
L347[05:32:10] <Noob> Lol I never had good experience with Nvidia unfortunately D:
L348[05:32:20] <Noob> So I was kinda afraid to buy a laptop with it
L349[05:32:26] <Izaya> Never had any good experiences with AMD
L350[05:32:36] <Izaya> the last AMD card I had killed a box, in fact
L351[05:32:39] <Turtle> Nvidia has good products and drivers, but are shady as hell business wise
L352[05:32:59] <Kathleen> Pretty much ^ that
L353[05:33:00] <Izaya> NVIDIA's Linux drivers beat the shit out of AMD's though
L354[05:33:01] <Turtle> AMD has ... 'different' products and bad drivers, but are incredibly ethical business wise.
L355[05:33:16] <Kathleen> Uhm, are they though?
L356[05:33:27] <Turtle> Compared to nvidia they're saints
L357[05:33:27] <Kathleen> They also pulled the game exclusive card on NVidia once
L358[05:33:33] <Noob> Not sure about beating shit
L359[05:33:40] <Kathleen> Compared to Intel they are still asshats.
L360[05:33:41] <Noob> Shadowplays and such arent available on linux
L361[05:34:01] <Turtle> meh, my phrasing was poor, I was talking relatively to nvidia :p
L362[05:34:22] <Izaya> Shadowplay increases recording performance, right?
L363[05:34:37] <Kathleen> The other way round
L364[05:34:39] <Turtle> It's a recording software iirc
L365[05:34:54] <Kathleen> It puts less strain on the system so it increases game perf while recording
L366[05:35:01] <Noob> Well it's like a videocard "streams" encoded videobuffer to system in MP4 format already or something like that
L367[05:35:13] <Noob> AMD done it through opensource format and open protocol
L368[05:35:24] <Izaya> If you're recording
L369[05:35:26] <Noob> So it's available on any OS
L370[05:35:30] <Izaya> you probably have at least 2 cores
L371[05:35:31] <Izaya> so
L372[05:35:41] <Noob> Linux did it... through fancy driver utility which isn't available for windows
L373[05:35:54] <Izaya> I don't see a huge advantage considering most games are single-thread anyway
L374[05:35:56] <Noob> Nvidia did it*
L375[05:35:58] <Kathleen> Izaya: You may not believe it but there are games which use more than one core.
L376[05:35:59] * Noob slaps myself
L377[05:35:59] * EnderBot2 laughs
L378[05:36:19] <Izaya> Kathleen, not many though
L379[05:36:41] <Kathleen> Also recording raw footage is not easy on the RAM either. And much less on all the busses in between
L380[05:37:12] <Kodos> o/
L381[05:37:21] <Lizzy> Izaya, shadowplay recording uses the hardware encoder on the GPU rather than a software based one
L382[05:39:15] <Noob> Yeah both are GPU-based
L383[05:39:37] <Noob> The difference is that AMD did it open and told people how to use this technology
L384[05:40:06] <Noob> Nvidia instead made fancy banner SHADOWPLAY and doesnt even give a damn about non-windows platforms
L385[05:40:26] <Noob> Thats second reason why I dont like nvidia to be honest
L386[05:40:42] <Izaya> well to be fair
L387[05:40:47] <Noob> It took Linus Torvalds to say his famous "Nvidia, fuck you" for them to release proper drivers :\
L388[05:41:08] <Izaya> I don't record, so it doesn't affect me whether I get hardware accel for recording
L389[05:41:15] <Turtle> There's also the shenanigans they pulled with hairworks or whatever their equivalent is
L390[05:41:35] <Noob> I know, I mean the company's policy about these things
L391[05:41:56] <Spookdra> is there any way I can set t1 displays to output in green?
L392[05:42:00] <Noob> If AMD is doing something, they *usually* make it open
L393[05:42:02] <Spookdra> I want a green monochrome display.
L394[05:42:12] <Lizzy> Spookdra, does it do it via color?
L395[05:42:19] <Izaya> Spookdra, it's in the configs
L396[05:42:27] <Noob> Plus I just absolutely hate what they've done to PhysX
L397[05:42:28] <Spookdra> ah good, it's in the configs.
L398[05:42:40] <Spookdra> that's exactly what I was asking.
L399[05:42:58] <Noob> And for this I want Nvidia CEO to roast in hell >.>
L400[05:43:20] <Noob> (Or whoever was responsible for such jackass act)
L401[05:43:31] <Izaya> manglement
L402[05:43:41] <Kathleen> For not releasing special treatment for <1% userbase? Noob, really?
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L404[05:44:04] <Turtle> Kathleen, you know of the bullshit they pulled, right?
L405[05:44:24] <Turtle> Nvidia has a special tesselation algorithm that is closed source, and 7x as fast as the AMD equivalent.
L406[05:44:41] <Turtle> In various nvidia-supported games, NOT visible areas were heavily tesselated
L407[05:44:48] <Kathleen> Turtle: Absolutely. But the whole communitiy of graphics card designers is faulty really.
L408[05:44:49] <Noob> Kathleen: no, for claiming they love "opernsource" when one of icons of opensource curses them on public, and by never releasing any of their project actually open
L409[05:44:51] <Turtle> ruining performance on AMD graphics cards
L410[05:44:57] <Turtle> Kathleen, fair enough I guess.
L411[05:45:30] <Noob> I will never forgive Nvidia for buying out Ageia and banning AMD for implementing PhysX on their videocards
L412[05:45:47] <Kathleen> I mean have a look at how shaders are done in most AAA games. Without NVidia completely reworking like half of their shaders most AAA games would suck so hard.
L413[05:45:54] <Noob> It was such a promising technology that was ABOUT to become widespread
L414[05:46:17] <Noob> Then Nvidia buys out Ageia, steals PhysX, and tells AMD to go to hell
L415[05:46:41] <Kathleen> So, I'm gonna guess that you hate MS even more?
L416[05:46:42] <Noob> Thats why I'll never buy anything that has Nvidia chip in it >.>
L417[05:46:57] <Kathleen> And Intel probably too>
L418[05:47:01] <Android_Creeper> But...KSP runs on PhysX...it works fie with amd cards or integrated graphics
L419[05:47:04] <Noob> Well, I hate MS but MS is doing sometimes good things
L420[05:47:15] <Android_Creeper> *fine* as in it runs
L421[05:47:18] <Kathleen> Oh, really? For example?
L422[05:47:36] <Kathleen> Except ECC. I know about that.
L423[05:48:15] <Noob> Microsoft Surface at least. Apple iPad was a cancer that killed PROPER tablet as a computer. MS restored it, now we have actually functional COMPUTERS as tablets, not overgrown phones
L424[05:48:30] <Turtle> Dude, that's overkill
L425[05:48:35] <Turtle> the iPad was marketing genius
L426[05:48:36] <Kathleen> And other companies can do the same without DRM? :)
L427[05:48:46] <Turtle> Turns out, the general human is incredibly computer illiterate
L428[05:48:52] <Lizzy> except the surface rt is heavilly DRM'd
L429[05:49:02] <Turtle> The 'proper' tablet has always been a niche market
L430[05:49:06] <Android_Creeper> everything sucks, lets start aur own hardware company
L431[05:49:08] <Kathleen> So.... Thats a bit of a hypocrite argument.
L432[05:49:21] <Noob> I meant the marketing push. Surface is a crap, but at least it cleared people's minds about what a tablet is and must be lol
L433[05:50:12] <Kathleen> Noob: Yes, MS has done good things. Without them we would still be using bad crypto widespread. But their ethics comission is on permanent leave it seems. They are much worse than NVidia.
L434[05:51:05] <Kathleen> Lets just remember Linux. Or Mosaik. Or any other technology that MS sees as threat. And I don't have hope for Havok either.
L435[05:51:15] <Kathleen> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
L436[05:51:29] <Noob> Yeah, I'm not saying MS is good. They're bad, but I'm not sure which is worse
L437[05:51:42] <Noob> Nvidia literally never done a single good thing
L438[05:51:47] <Kathleen> MS because they have a 70-80% market share
L439[05:51:56] <Kathleen> Noob: Port Source to OpenGL? OpenGL?
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L441[05:53:43] <Noob> Valve did it primarly (they've called Nvidia to help them that I know). And OpenGL wasn't nvidia's thing, was it?
L442[05:54:03] <Izaya> OpenGL has been around since like
L443[05:54:08] <Izaya> the beginning of 3D accel
L444[05:54:10] <Kathleen> No, but I don't think OpenGL would be anywhere close to where it is now without NVidia
L445[05:55:24] <Kathleen> Izaya: Actually OpenGL was pretty much the beginning of 3D. It just was the most used API and de-facto standard made into an actual standard
L446[05:55:46] <Noob> How did Nvidia help OpenGL? I fail to remember that part
L447[05:56:52] <Kathleen> They pushed OpenGL around the 2.0 mark
L448[05:57:14] <Kathleen> And had their fingers pretty deply in 3Dlabs or whatever it was called
L449[06:02:46] <vifino> ohai Kathleen
L450[06:02:49] <vifino> o/
L451[06:03:20] <Kathleen> ohai vifino o/
L452[06:04:09] <Turtle> http://pastebin.com/MxkwsghX <- Anyone got any suggestions? If you can stand the crummy explanations :p
L453[06:04:36] <Turtle> TLDR: Protocol to set a microcontroller's program over network using a bit of magic
L454[06:04:57] <Kathleen> Turtle: Do you plan on handeling weird configs?
L455[06:05:04] <Turtle> define, weird configs?
L456[06:05:06] <Lizzy> if anyone needs me, ping me. i'm in a remote desktop session so won't actively see hexchat
L457[06:05:45] <scj643> Clinton opposes TPP
L458[06:06:01] <Kathleen> Turtle: For example somebody setting the limit of values sendable over network card to 2
L459[06:06:18] <Izaya> scj643, ot
L460[06:06:21] <Izaya> it's too late
L461[06:06:30] <Izaya> enjoy the view as the world goes to shit
L462[06:06:39] <Turtle> Kathleen, not sure, people do that a lot?
L463[06:06:56] <Kathleen> Turtle: I don't think so. Its probably mostly default config
L464[06:07:33] <Turtle> I mean it's not impossible to chuck the return message in a table and then serialize that into a single string
L465[06:07:38] <Kathleen> Also I'm assuming you want to be as stateless as possible?
L466[06:07:53] <Turtle> Stateless? Anything but
L467[06:08:08] <Turtle> The idea is that the program is stored on the µC, persistantly
L468[06:08:16] <Kathleen> I mean the connection itself.
L469[06:08:24] <Kathleen> Because you are sending the password with every command
L470[06:08:28] <Turtle> oh, yeah.
L471[06:08:34] <Kathleen> Also GETPASSWORD?
L472[06:08:39] <Kathleen> What for?
L473[06:08:49] <Turtle> uhm I have no idea
L474[06:08:52] <Noob> To get password.
L475[06:09:00] <Kathleen> Noob: You are sending it the password
L476[06:09:08] <Kathleen> to receive said password
L477[06:09:13] <Kathleen> Sense much?
L478[06:09:19] <Turtle> yeah I think that's a legacy editing failure
L479[06:09:30] <Turtle> I think it used the be the previous password
L480[06:09:34] <Kathleen> Ah, ok
L481[06:09:38] <Turtle> but that's a relatively pointless feature so I scrapped that
L482[06:10:41] <Noob> Kathleen: well, it's the "the instruction is inside" thing :D
L483[06:10:57] <Kathleen> ?
L484[06:11:06] <Turtle> But uh, regarding the statelessness, things like drones could benefit from having multiple computers send them instructions
L485[06:11:38] <Kathleen> Turtle: I did not mean to say that that is a bad idea. Quite the opposite imho.
L486[06:11:46] <Turtle> I know, just wanted to clarify
L487[06:11:52] <Turtle> and to check if my reasoning was sound
L488[06:12:36] <Kathleen> Since the connection you are sending over is also stateless itself it makes quite a lot of sense.
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L490[06:13:48] <Turtle> regarding the implementation, I want to see if I can do some magic with loading the EEPROM data into memory, appending a child program, then storing the EEPROM data again (and rebooting the µC)
L491[06:14:14] <Kathleen> Why do you not mark responses as such? As in have the first string be MCoNR or something. That way two microcontrollers could communicate with each other more easily
L492[06:14:33] <Turtle> Kathleen, eh?
L493[06:14:46] <Kodos> Turtle, look at how nanomachines are programmed as an example
L494[06:16:13] <Turtle> yeah, but I don't quite understand what Kathleen ment
L495[06:16:16] <dangranos> huh
L496[06:16:26] <dangranos> so, new page of SSSS comic..
L497[06:16:31] <Turtle> if it's having the first string denote the protocol, That's supposed to be the case, maybe poor phrasing on my part
L498[06:16:34] <dangranos> that thing looks like a zerg drone
L499[06:16:42] <dangranos> http://www.sssscomic.com/comic.php?page=405
L500[06:17:17] <Kathleen> Turtle: What would happen if two µCs have the same password and one sends the shutdown command. The response to that command would look exactly like the shutdown command to the other µC.
L501[06:17:32] <Turtle> ooh, my bad.
L502[06:17:52] <Turtle> That's a good one.
L503[06:18:04] <Noob> Speaking of nanomachines... Is there any list of all possible effects there are in the list?
L504[06:18:06] <Kathleen> I mean its unlikely to happen, but marking them as response is not that hard either
L505[06:18:13] <Turtle> oh, I remember, I wanted to implement it only sending, so that wouldn't be an issue, but yeah your way is a better fix.
L506[06:18:16] <Kathleen> Noob: Config
L507[06:18:43] <Turtle> That would ensure that if for some reason someone'd use the program to set another controller's program it wouldn't break.
L508[06:18:43] <Kathleen> You have to whitelist/blacklist them so there should be a list there
L509[06:19:41] <Kathleen> Turtle: Is there a reason why you use string errors instead of numerical errors?
L510[06:20:31] <Turtle> Not specificly, that should be changed I suppose.
L511[06:21:10] <Turtle> It's probably better to have standardized codes rather than noob-friendlier debugging
L512[06:21:39] <Kathleen> Absolutely
L513[06:22:22] <Turtle> (I blame working on loads and loads of CC programs .-.)
L514[06:23:01] <Kathleen> Turtle: Shameless plug, but I developed a super-small binary encoding for OC. Interested? :P
L515[06:23:17] <Kathleen> and by super-small i mean featurewise, not size wise
L516[06:23:18] <Turtle> hmm?
L517[06:23:36] <Kathleen> https://gist.github.com/Dean4Devil/fd858e207863e5e4e278
L518[06:24:31] <Turtle> Interesting, what purpose is it for though? :p
L519[06:24:43] <Kathleen> General-purpose
L520[06:25:35] <Kathleen> I'm currently updating it so is in every case better than OC's serialize, and then I'm planning to move on to more complex types like Tables
L521[06:25:43] <Turtle> ah
L522[06:26:08] <Kathleen> Its just meant to be better than serialize, thats all
L523[06:26:50] <Kathleen> Also it can put all information into one string so you can use it even if the network card is configured really weirdly.
L524[06:27:20] <Turtle> good point
L525[06:27:39] <Turtle> I
L526[06:27:43] <Turtle> *I'd assume 64-encoded?
L527[06:27:55] <Kathleen> https://github.com/Dean4Devil/OpenComputersNetworking/blob/master/binary_encoding.lua
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L531[06:36:16] <Turtle> I love how wonky lua's switch statements are
L532[06:37:42] <Kathleen> switch statements?
L533[06:38:15] <Turtle> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch_statement
L534[06:38:34] <Turtle> TLDR: Running a piece of code from a list of pieces depending on the value of a variable
L535[06:38:43] <Turtle> they're a more optimized version of giant if-then chains
L536[06:39:07] <Turtle> In lua, they're usually implemented by making a table of keys and functions
L537[06:39:41] <Turtle> (Metatables allow implementation of the 'default' codeblock)
L538[06:39:43] <Kubuxu> you can do a switch in lua
L539[06:39:47] <Kathleen> I know what a switch statement itself is but I never though Lua had anything similar
L540[06:40:01] <Turtle> Lua doesn't, you do the thing with tables I just explained
L541[06:40:02] <Turtle> :p
L542[06:40:25] <Turtle> But that's what most languages do behind the scenes I believe, so it's functionally equivalent
L543[06:43:21] <Turtle> http://lua-users.org/wiki/SwitchStatement
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L545[06:45:48] <Inari> you can also use goto ;D
L546[06:46:41] <Turtle> is that fully in yet?
L547[06:46:56] <Turtle> I remember it being in beta stages
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L549[06:47:58] <Inari> should be in 5.2
L550[06:50:09] <Turtle> yeah, did some checking ,aparent in the 5.2 beta rc1
L551[06:50:13] <Turtle> *Aparently
L552[06:50:31] <Lizzy> lunch time
L553[06:50:54] <Inari> Lizzy: lemons?
L554[06:51:17] <Lizzy> Inari, if you want
L555[06:51:23] <Inari> lol
L556[06:52:45] <Lizzy> woo, steam broked
L557[06:52:54] <Inari> steam for lunch?
L558[06:52:58] <Lizzy> .-.
L559[06:53:05] * Lizzy sits on Inari
L560[06:53:09] <Inari> ah you meant brokered
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L562[06:53:17] <Inari> we just generate our own steam to steam stuff with, not buying it
L563[06:53:42] <Inari> nyan?
L564[06:53:47] * Inari pokes at Lizzy
L565[06:53:55] * Lizzy doesn't budge
L566[06:54:04] <Inari> D:
L567[06:54:14] * Inari sticks at Lizzy
L568[06:54:24] <Lizzy> eh?
L569[06:54:31] <Inari> using a stick to poke
L570[06:54:33] <Inari> => sticking
L571[06:54:34] <Inari> :D
L572[06:54:35] <Lizzy> ah
L573[06:54:42] * Lizzy still doesn't budge
L574[06:54:52] * Inari plays with Lizzy's lemons?
L575[06:54:59] * Lizzy nyahs
L576[06:55:10] <Kathleen> Caitlyn: Feature requests for MichiBot: Help command when you query it and steam status (maybe use https://steamgaug.es/docs ?)
L577[06:55:13] <Inari> (this channel is weird)
L578[06:55:25] <Lizzy> Inari, ya
L579[06:55:32] <Kathleen> Inari: Will you stop touching Lizzy like that? 0.0
L580[06:55:41] * Inari lewdly touches Lizzy all over
L581[06:55:45] <Inari> Kathleen: nya?~
L582[06:55:57] * Lizzy giggles
L583[06:56:19] <Inari> at least vif isnt here
L584[06:56:27] <Kathleen> Get a room you two
L585[06:56:49] * Lizzy doesn't need a room, she has a chair made out of Inari
L586[06:56:56] <Caitlyn> Kathleen, %commands, I suck at writing docs so that
L587[06:56:57] <Inari> lol
L588[06:57:03] <Caitlyn> 's as close to "help" it'll get
L589[06:57:05] <Lizzy> (take that how you want)
L590[06:57:10] <Inari> rude
L591[06:57:23] <Kathleen> Caitlyn: Does that work in /query? Because it does not seem to
L592[06:57:24] <Inari> you liked me so much you had to get a chair that looks like me ;o
L593[06:57:34] <Lizzy> Inari, no, you are the chair
L594[06:57:39] <Inari> :P
L595[06:57:43] * Inari rolls over
L596[06:57:50] * Lizzy falls off
L597[06:57:58] <Kathleen> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnrdvj7JmTs :D
L598[06:58:06] * Inari rolls over Lizzy and away
L599[06:58:12] <Kathleen> Kabul - Medical NGO (MSF) on Kunduz hospital bombing
L600[06:58:19] * Lizzy oof
L601[06:58:22] <Inari> im way too bored
L602[06:58:48] <Inari> i need more interesting podcasts
L603[06:59:32] <Caitlyn> Oh wow, the youtube API doesn't return data on that video by default.
L604[06:59:58] <Kathleen> huh?
L605[07:00:08] <Inari> should make a yuri onsen and invite the people here
L606[07:01:26] <Caitlyn> Also Kathleen see next message
L607[07:01:27] <Caitlyn> %commands
L608[07:02:08] <Kathleen> Is it just me or ....
L609[07:02:11] <Caitlyn> MichiBot doesn't do a lot of PM processing as that's an entirely separate event I have to catch, and the event types are different so I have to duplicate code.
L610[07:02:16] <Kathleen> %commands
L611[07:02:17] <Kathleen> Ah
L612[07:02:20] <Kathleen> nvm, sorry
L613[07:02:57] <Kathleen> Steam status pretty please? *cute look*
L614[07:05:36] <Caitlyn> Later, I'm about to take my daughter to the bus stop, and I'm going back to bed, my head is pounding
L615[07:06:11] <Kathleen> Sure, do whenever you feel like it. Or not at all. Its a request, not an order :P
L616[07:09:36] <Caitlyn> %tell Caitlyn consider steam status for MichiBot.
L617[07:09:36] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: Caitlyn will be notified of this message when next seen.
L618[07:09:41] <Caitlyn> Damn right.
L619[07:09:51] <Caitlyn> someone else do that.. lol
L620[07:10:38] <Kathleen> %tell Caitlyn consider steam status for MichiBot.
L621[07:10:38] <MichiBot> Kathleen: Caitlyn will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L623[07:14:50] <Kodos> o/
L624[07:17:34] <Kodos> Went for coffee at mom's and she apparently had something called extra extra creamer from dunkin donuts and now I'm super hyper which is weird because coffee usually knocks me out
L625[07:22:44] <Kathleen> Kodos: Its weird. Everytime you talk about you in your daily life my mental image of you shifts. Sometimes you seem to be a 40-something with kids and sometimes you seem to be a teen just out of college. :P
L626[07:23:09] <Kodos> Kathleen, I'm 30 years old, occasionally with the mind of an adolescent
L627[07:23:13] <Kodos> No kids
L628[07:23:16] <Kodos> But I am married
L629[07:23:42] <Kodos> The majority of my weirdness is because of the fact that I'm only ever on the mania side of bipolar disorder
L630[07:23:44] <Kathleen> I know the last bit
L631[07:23:54] <Kodos> Which I take medicine for (When I remember to (Which is rare))
L632[07:23:58] <Kathleen> The married bit that is
L633[07:24:09] <Kathleen> Ah, ok that explains a lot
L634[07:24:31] <Kodos> Doctors keep switching my diagnosis between bipolar mania and Adult ADHD
L635[07:25:50] <Lizzy> lets see how well i can play borderlands 2 with a trackpad
L636[07:27:39] <Kodos> Oh this should be good
L637[07:29:38] <Kodos> Fuuuck th is stacks mod is awesome
L638[07:29:53] <Kathleen> Wait... Minecraft has wings now? 0.0
L639[07:29:58] <Kodos> 1.9
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L643[07:38:03] <shadowkin0721|Laptop> Beetle wings no less
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L646[07:53:30] <Kodos> You know what would be cool (But probably impossible to do?)
L647[07:53:49] <Kodos> Some sort of device (in-game) to convert from a record disc to a tape
L648[07:56:08] <Kodos> So does anything exist for OC like the old speaker from Immi's peripherals? Or can beep cards do that stuff
L649[07:56:27] <gamax92> ogg decoder in lua?
L650[07:57:02] <Kodos> Sure?
L651[07:59:20] <Caitlyn> What did Immi's speaker do? It's been ages since I used it..
L652[07:59:28] <Caitlyn> Also, I guess going to sleep went to hell
L653[07:59:39] <Caitlyn> \o/
L654[08:00:01] <gamax92> 8 channel square wave synth
L655[08:00:19] <Kodos> That
L656[08:00:42] <Lizzy> woo, got Irker running again on Athar
L657[08:00:58] <Kodos> Beep cards can do it, but it seems beep cards have a limited frequency range
L658[08:01:32] <gamax92> yes, glorious 4KHz audio
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L660[08:07:42] <gamax92> Kodos: there's a immibru oc port though, a liiiitle out of date but is 1.7.10
L661[08:18:36] <gamax92> stupid Russian forums using outdated buggy broken software and going: yes it's very good, even runs programs that don't run in game
L662[08:21:24] * gamax92 stabs dan
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L664[08:24:45] <gamax92> also I want to try wxWidgers with SDL2
L665[08:24:57] <gamax92> and maybe update that one port
L666[08:25:13] <gamax92> and let an image program run for several hours
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L668[08:25:14] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L669[08:25:18] <gamax92> and vexatos
L670[08:25:28] <Vexatos> .-.
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L672[08:25:46] <gamax92> Vexatos: oh, did you need context?
L673[08:26:18] <Vexatos> ...
L674[08:26:46] <gamax92> your dash morphed into a dot
L675[08:28:00] <Turtle> o/
L676[08:28:15] <Kathleen> \o
L677[08:28:21] <gamax92> /o
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L679[08:33:34] <Caitlyn> Kodos, http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-10-13_08-33-24.png
L680[08:34:33] <Kodos> Nice! =D
L681[08:36:13] <Caitlyn> That was manually set, I still have to figure out how to read the crafting grid to get and set the page order..
L682[08:36:18] <Caitlyn> but the renderer almost works
L683[08:36:28] <Caitlyn> I still need to finalize the NBT storage format for books and folders.
L684[08:37:39] <Kodos> Wouldn't folders just be a simple 9 slot inventory?
L685[08:37:54] <Kodos> a la satchels, bags, etc
L686[08:38:55] <Caitlyn> Find me an open source mod with a non TE container, and I'll look at that :P
L687[08:39:56] <Turtle> Obligatory: I'd recommend you stick with CC's crafting grid order, otherwise you'll get loads and loads of people who get confused.
L688[08:40:50] <Caitlyn> For books I'm going to try to, For folders, CC doesn't have those.
L689[08:40:59] <Turtle> err, folders?
L690[08:41:18] <Turtle> oh, reordering the pages?
L691[08:41:26] <Caitlyn> Yeah, like file folders
L692[08:41:54] <Turtle> yeah, I had a minor brainfart
L693[08:42:02] <Turtle> ... I have to catch a bus, BBL
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L695[08:43:22] <Kodos> Caitlyn, it's literally an item, why would you need a TE?
L696[08:43:28] <Kodos> Isn't TE blocks only?
L697[08:43:38] <Caitlyn> Which is why I said, WITHOUT a TE.
L698[08:43:43] <Kodos> Ah
L699[08:43:43] <Kodos> Uhh
L700[08:43:44] <Kodos> hang on
L701[08:43:46] <Caitlyn> I have no idea how to attach a TE to an item.
L702[08:43:47] <Caitlyn> err
L703[08:43:52] <Caitlyn> s/TE/Container
L704[08:43:52] <Kibibyte> <Caitlyn> I have no idea how to attach a Container to an item.
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L706[08:44:30] <Lizzy> \o/ got a script kiddie on my works network
L707[08:45:35] <Android_Creeper> Force his computer to disconnect
L708[08:49:25] <Lizzy> Android_Creeper, we may disable their domain account till we can talk to them
L709[08:49:27] <Kodos> This is a terrible example, since the entire repo is a clusterfuck, but https://github.com/SlimeKnights/TinkersConstruct/blob/a7405a3d10318bb5c486ec75fb62897a8149d1a6/src/main/java/tconstruct/armor/inventory/KnapsackContainer.java
L710[08:49:44] <Caitlyn> Kodos, I think I found something
L711[08:49:48] <Caitlyn> https://github.com/coolAlias/Forge_Tutorials/blob/master/InventoryItemTutorial.java
L712[08:50:45] <Caitlyn> Yeah, this should do fine
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L720[09:43:19] <Lizzy> hmm, to set up Jenkins on Athar or use GitLab's CI for my CI stuff
L721[09:45:01] <Caitlyn> \o/ Item bound inventory works
L722[09:45:33] <Caitlyn> afk
L723[09:47:36] <Kathleen> Lizzy: Jenkins works a bit better in my experience
L724[09:47:45] <Lizzy> hmm
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L726[09:50:21] <asie> Caitlyn: A non-TE container?
L727[09:50:24] <asie> Forestry.
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L730[09:52:11] <Lizzy> #p
L731[09:52:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.143426581 Seconds passed.
L732[09:52:27] <Caitlyn> asie, thanks, I got it
L733[09:52:29] <Kodos> Also TFC
L734[09:52:30] <Caitlyn> just needs tweaking
L735[09:53:30] <Caitlyn> I really need to figure out how to render a players face on a GUI..
L736[09:57:09] <Kodos> Caitlyn, ask calclavia as he used some sort of code to grab a player's face texture and stick it on MFFS cards
L737[09:57:44] <Lizzy> or Micdoodle, i think he done it for the galacticraft flags
L738[09:57:54] <Kodos> Good call, and GC is open source
L739[09:58:15] <Caitlyn> %flip computer
L740[09:58:15] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: (╯°□°)╯︵ɹǝʇndɯoɔ
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L742[09:59:10] <Caitlyn> I'll look into GC next time I crack open OS
L743[09:59:41] <Lizzy> -__- sourcetree pls
L744[10:00:55] * Caitlyn stabs her computer
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L747[10:05:21] <Noob> %flip lol
L748[10:05:22] <MichiBot> Noob: (╯°□°)╯︵lol
L749[10:05:28] <Turtle> Caitlyn, what did the computer do? D:
L750[10:05:49] <Caitlyn> just running slow as shit whenever I have eclipse open
L751[10:06:03] <Lizzy> Caitlyn, i think one of my coworkers may be doing the same to his pc
L752[10:06:06] <Noob> Where can I find implementation of require function is OpenOS?
L753[10:06:21] <Turtle> How much ram do you have?
L754[10:06:30] <Turtle> Noob, hang on, I got a github link in my cache
L755[10:06:34] * Caitlyn ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro ** CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (4.00 GHz) ** RAM: 16333 MB Total (6140 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 ** Uptime: 138.98 Hours **
L756[10:06:55] <Caitlyn> it's only an issue with eclipse open
L757[10:07:06] <Noob> Trojan.MS.Win10
L758[10:07:06] <Turtle> Odd. Eclipse should run fine
L759[10:07:24] <Turtle> Noob: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/tree/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS
L760[10:08:33] <Caitlyn> input lag typing in eclipse, lag when saving for code swap, lag when using my logger to print to console.
L761[10:08:53] <Caitlyn> but the slowness seems to extend to the rest of the system.
L762[10:08:58] <Caitlyn> if I close eclipse, system is fine
L763[10:08:59] <Turtle> sounds like a cpu or RAM bottleneck
L764[10:09:13] <Turtle> which is odd as you have 6 gigs of ram spare
L765[10:10:00] <Turtle> also, 140h uptime, obligatory: Did you reboot?
L766[10:10:09] <Turtle> (I have no idea if the uptime is correct)
L767[10:11:18] <Caitlyn> uptime is right, I'd rather not reboot.
L768[10:11:19] * Vexatos pokes vifino .-.
L769[10:12:01] <Turtle> I assume you checked taskmanager to see if it´s bottlenecking on cpu or something?
L770[10:12:22] <Caitlyn> 25-35% CPU usage
L771[10:12:30] <Noob> Alright, other approach... Say an OpenOS program calls require("internet") function
L772[10:12:45] <Noob> Is there a way to create "fake" device for OpenOS?
L773[10:13:14] <Turtle> you can override require with any other function I believe
L774[10:13:36] <Turtle> although because OpenOS does some things with components already you need to be a bit thorough
L775[10:14:17] <Turtle> Are you trying to create a virtual component?
L776[10:14:21] <Noob> Yeah
L777[10:14:37] <Noob> Basically I wanna re-route internet traffic through server-computer
L778[10:14:47] <Noob> But I dont wanna make my own wget etc
L779[10:14:58] <Kathleen> Caitlyn: I would suggest setting the Xms and Xmx settings for Eclipse way up and make the permgen space 256MB if not 512MB. That may speed up stuff a bit
L780[10:15:48] <Turtle> wget internally uses the internet card
L781[10:15:59] <Turtle> so what you need to do is create a wrapper for the (entire) component api
L782[10:16:13] <Turtle> so that whenever the internet card component is requested, you supply your own ´fake´ component
L783[10:16:35] <Noob> I know, I'm looking into cleaner way to make wrapper
L784[10:17:18] <Turtle> require(¨component¨); oldcomponent = component; component=nil; [WRAPPER GOES HERE]
L785[10:17:39] <Turtle> and to clear out the wrapper you´d just set component back from oldcomponent.
L786[10:19:40] <Turtle> Actually I´m not entirely sure how lua does pointers, but that is how it worked for me in the past.
L787[10:20:54] <Noob> Hmm, need to see how does machine.lua implements component... Maybe I can stick my fake device somewhere there
L788[10:22:28] <Inari> whys it not possible to add virtual devices D:
L789[10:22:37] <Turtle> it is? Easily?
L790[10:22:38] <Caitlyn> vcomponent.
L791[10:22:50] <Inari> then i dont see the issue
L792[10:22:55] <Noob> whats vcomponent. ?
L793[10:23:06] <Caitlyn> gamax92, vcomponent does what I hope it does, right?
L794[10:23:37] <Kodos> Caitlyn, is the server coming down anytime soon? If not, I'ma get on
L795[10:23:56] <Caitlyn> no, auto reboot was 5 hours ago, and I'm too busy to update atm
L796[10:24:07] <Caitlyn> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/gamax92-Programs/blob/master/vcomponent/index.txt
L797[10:24:11] <Kodos> kk, I'ma get on and learn vcomponent :3
L798[10:25:50] <Noob> Not sure I like the idea of redefining functions
L799[10:27:14] <Kodos> Wait, I think I remember vcomponent borking other component usage
L800[10:35:10] <Lizzy> is the creation of /tmp an openos thing or something built into the default BIOS?
L801[10:35:28] <S3> .....
L802[10:35:33] <S3> cat is eating her cat liter
L803[10:35:43] <Caitlyn> Lizzy, pretty sure /tmp is an OpenOS thing
L804[10:36:31] * Lizzy goes to scour the github
L805[10:37:52] <Kathleen> S3: Your cat? Stop it and go to a vet. Cats eating Litter can be signs of diseases. (also its not very healthy)
L806[10:37:59] <Kodos> Hm, I can't get this to work
L807[10:38:26] <Skye> Lizzy: /tmp is either BIOS or built into the Lua architecture
L808[10:38:34] <Skye> Well
L809[10:38:38] <Kodos> gamax92, do you have a tutorial for vcomponent beyond running vtest? How do I call the function in the lua interpreter
L810[10:39:24] <Noob> /tmp is actually filesystem component, but a special one
L811[10:39:39] <Noob> because it's using address of computer.tmpAddress()
L812[10:39:58] <Kodos> Nevermind, I'm an idiot
L813[10:43:29] <Noob> Is there a way to remotely boot server inside rack?
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L815[10:46:36] <Kodos> Does it have a network card?
L816[10:46:47] <Noob> Yes
L817[10:46:51] <Turtle> Kodos: No point if the server is offline lol
L818[10:47:06] <Kodos> Turtle, he's talking about OC servers
L819[10:47:11] <Kodos> Noob, use setWakeMessage
L820[10:47:13] <Turtle> yeah?
L821[10:47:20] <Turtle> oh, wait, THAT is what wakemessage does
L822[10:47:22] <Turtle> hurr.
L823[10:47:28] <Kodos> hurrr indeed
L824[10:47:55] <Noob> So if I send wakeMessage to OFFLINE server... it will turn it on?
L825[10:48:10] <Kodos> Yes
L826[10:48:23] <Kodos> It would be rather pointless to send a WAKE message if the server had to be on to receive it, no?
L827[10:48:48] <Turtle> In my mind it was a message that was autosent on startup
L828[10:48:52] <Turtle> xD
L829[10:49:05] <Kodos> For example, I have three slave servers, each one wakes to (in order) Bippity, Boppity, Boo
L830[10:49:16] <shadowkin0721> That's amazing.
L831[10:49:25] <shadowkin0721> Nice naming convention. XD
L832[10:49:38] <Kodos> Eh, I have the entire song memorized anyway from chorus in HS
L833[10:51:03] <Kodos> I wonder if I can require actual components within a vcomponnet
L834[10:51:11] <Kodos> Or libs, for that matter
L835[10:52:43] <Kodos> Well, now that I have this thing working, I have no idea what to do with it
L836[10:53:18] <Turtle> mount remote components over network.
L837[10:53:44] <Kodos> I meant the vcomponent thing
L838[10:53:50] <Turtle> mount remote components over network.
L839[10:53:52] <Kodos> The servers are already tasked
L840[10:53:54] <Lizzy> ~oc custom os
L841[10:53:54] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L842[10:54:11] <Skye> I wonder if I should make a microcontroller OS
L843[10:54:29] <Skye> that compiles selected APIs and program code into a single Lua file
L844[10:54:29] <Turtle> Skye, actually that reminds me I need to pull some files off my laptop for that.
L845[10:55:27] <Lizzy> k, temp address is set by the sandbox
L846[10:55:47] <S3> Kathleen: litter has some pretty odd chemicals, but have you ever done an actual analysis of what cat litter is? hehe. At least the cat litter I have, it's just clay.
L847[10:56:43] <Kathleen> S3: Doesn't make it healty. Also thats really besided the point :P
L848[10:57:24] <Kodos> Yeah, no idea what to do with this. Ah well, at least I got it working
L849[10:57:59] <Lizzy> #p
L850[10:58:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.152763993 Seconds passed.
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L852[10:58:49] <Turtle> ... and my laptop is booted.
L853[10:58:50] <Lizzy> home time
L854[10:58:51] <S3> Kathleen: guess who's coming to save my cat?!
L855[10:58:55] <Caitlyn> Ok, so I've got my printed pages stored in my folder item, now to loop the NBT, and extract the lines.
L856[10:59:17] <S3> #js Array(16).join("wat - 1) + " Batman!"
L857[10:59:17] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Unexpected identifier at <eval>:1:36
L858[10:59:20] <S3> oops
L859[10:59:26] <S3> #js Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + " Batman!"
L860[10:59:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman!"
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L862[11:00:04] <Vexatos> http://imgur.com/1VeNOOJ
L863[11:00:04] <Caitlyn> s/NaN/Derp/g
L864[11:00:04] <Kibibyte> <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "DerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerp Batman!"
L865[11:00:20] <S3> s/Derp/Herpaderp/g
L866[11:00:20] <Kibibyte> <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "HerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderpHerpaderp Batman!"
L867[11:00:22] <Kathleen> S3: I really don't care what you do to your cat. But I generally don't like joking around with kidney failure or cancer.
L868[11:01:02] <S3> Kathleen: she will be fine, I did stop her when she did it and it was only because she had knocked food down in it.. smart cat
L869[11:01:10] <S3> she has this thing
L870[11:01:27] <S3> where she believes that if she can get your food on the floor, then it is instantly hers to have
L871[11:01:40] <S3> I dunno why she thinks that but
L872[11:02:21] <Kathleen> S3: Ah, ok. I though she was actively seeking litter to eat.
L873[11:02:32] <S3> no
L874[11:02:51] <S3> she just happened to have some litter on her face that fell on the floor when she kicked it out of her box
L875[11:18:13] <Lizzy> My dad's cat likes to kick the litter out of the tray
L876[11:22:42] <Kathleen> Our cat just takes its dump outside.
L877[11:22:57] <Kodos> A buddy of mine had a cat that was toilet trained
L878[11:23:07] <Kodos> It could also open the fridge
L879[11:24:51] <Lizzy> Current mood: fuck everything
L880[11:33:55] * Lizzy melts
L881[11:36:16] <Caitlyn> Nested NBT is a bitch.
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L884[11:47:15] <nxsupert> o/
L885[11:47:56] <Turtle> Oooh. matter overdrive has pretty guis
L886[11:56:23] <Kodos> I hate writing flavor text about an RP character...
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L888[11:59:35] <cloakable> I may end up giving in and adding matter overdrive to my pack
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L890[12:01:49] <Caitlyn> a'eprfijgas'oehdg'oaeshg
L891[12:02:04] <Android_Creeper> someone looks bored
L892[12:02:10] <Caitlyn> Annoyed.
L893[12:02:53] <Caitlyn> my nbt .toString()'d gives me {id:4100s,Damage:0s,Count:1b,tag:{line1:"Test2∞0∞left",line0:"Test∞0∞left",version:2.0d,},Slot:0,}
L894[12:03:02] <Caitlyn> but getString("line0") is null
L895[12:03:42] <Kodos> Wouldn't that be because line0 is in the middle of a single string?
L896[12:04:02] <Caitlyn> line0 isn't in the middle of a string, that's just a string representation of the NBT struct
L897[12:04:30] <Caitlyn> .getString("line0") gets the content "line0" in the tag compound
L898[12:04:37] <Caitlyn> content of*
L899[12:06:06] <Caitlyn> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-10-13_12-05-59.png
L900[12:06:10] <Caitlyn> little easier to follow there
L901[12:06:40] <Kathleen> Caitlyn: So .toString("Slot") works?
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L903[12:07:39] <Caitlyn> well, .getString("Slot") works yes
L904[12:07:47] <Caitlyn> prints 0, like it should
L905[12:08:49] <Caitlyn> and getTag("tag") returns the tags, but you can't getString from that
L906[12:09:05] <Kathleen> Is that the right type?
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L909[12:09:50] <Caitlyn> Well, they're strings..?
L910[12:10:06] <Kathleen> String.getString()?
L911[12:10:39] <Caitlyn> Err, what?
L912[12:11:02] <Kathleen> if getTag() returns strings, why do you call getString() on them?
L913[12:11:13] <Caitlyn> getTag() returns {line1:"Test2∞0∞left",line0:"Test∞0∞left",version:2.0d,}
L914[12:11:20] <Kathleen> As string?
L915[12:11:22] <Caitlyn> Because that's the entire "tag"
L916[12:11:33] <Caitlyn> Well.. no, as a TagCompound
L917[12:11:55] <Kathleen> Sooo... is there a TagCompound function .getString()?
L918[12:12:17] <Caitlyn> I'Yes, and calling getString("line0") gives me nothing.
L919[12:12:42] <Kathleen> Is there an alternative for looking up sub-tags?
L920[12:13:54] <Caitlyn> Not that I've found... I'm about to bite the bullet ask in #MCF, and see how long it takes to get an answer.
L921[12:18:01] * Lizzy boils into a gas then goes to float around in limbo
L922[12:23:49] <Caitlyn> Got it
L923[12:23:50] <Caitlyn> .getCompoundTag("tag").getString("line0"
L924[12:23:52] <Caitlyn> )
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L926[12:24:31] <Caitlyn> I'm used to using the itemstack's .stackTagCompound, which does the .getCompoundTag("tag") step
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L930[12:34:28] <S3> NBT is so crap
L931[12:34:28] <S3> lol
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L934[12:39:08] * Lizzy screams then punches the wall
L935[12:39:17] <S3> ?
L936[12:39:20] * gamax92 screams then punches lizzy
L937[12:39:34] * Lizzy scratches gamax92
L938[12:39:38] <Lizzy> not in the fucking mood
L939[12:39:51] * Caitlyn disintegrates gamax92 and sweeps the remains under a rug
L940[12:39:57] <Skye> Lizzy, why are you screaming?
L941[12:39:58] * Kathleen cuddles Lizzy
L942[12:40:00] <Turtle> http://i.imgur.com/aDaLjwV.gif
L943[12:40:04] * S3 calms down and throws down his pokeball. Go! scj643!
L944[12:40:10] * Lizzy cuddles Kathleen
L945[12:40:23] <scj643> What
L946[12:40:28] <S3> LOL
L947[12:40:28] <Lizzy> Skye, in a really pissed off mood
L948[12:40:35] <Lizzy> been out in the cold too long
L949[12:40:39] <S3> Lizzy: play guitar :)
L950[12:40:46] <Skye> cold is not fun...
L951[12:40:56] <S3> what do you mean cold is not fun? how cold is it?
L952[12:41:02] <Lizzy> don't have any here at the moment and that'd probably annoy me more
L953[12:41:18] <Kathleen> S3: British cold :P
L954[12:41:28] <Lizzy> S3, enough that my hands are still numb and i got in 5 mins ago
L955[12:41:29] <S3> whatever that is
L956[12:41:40] <Kathleen> S3: Around a finnish luke-warm
L957[12:41:53] <S3> whats the temp?
L958[12:41:53] <Lizzy> oww
L959[12:42:00] <Lizzy> except i can feel this plate
L960[12:42:03] <Lizzy> fuck that's hot
L961[12:42:09] <scj643> Lizzy: how is softether
L962[12:42:12] <Turtle> Apply hands to plate. Profit.
L963[12:42:24] <Lizzy> scj643, i haven't looked at it
L964[12:42:37] <Lizzy> will try tonight though, when i warm up
L965[12:42:43] <Kathleen> If you lay your ear on a hot plate you can hear how stupidity smells
L966[12:42:52] <Caitlyn> Lizzy is near london IIRC, right?
L967[12:42:57] <Turtle> Kathleen, damn it. I laughed.
L968[12:43:17] <Lizzy> Caitlyn, South Essex
L969[12:43:42] <Lizzy> S3, about 11 degrees centigrade
L970[12:43:51] <Caitlyn> %weather London, England
L971[12:43:52] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: Current weather for London, United Kingdom Current Temp: 54°F/12°C Feels Like: 51°F/11°C Current Humidity: 58 Wind: From the N 8 Mph/13 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L972[12:43:54] <Caitlyn> so close enough :p
L973[12:44:10] <Lizzy> %weather Grays, England
L974[12:44:11] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Current weather for Grays, United Kingdom Current Temp: 54°F/12°C Feels Like: 51°F/11°C Current Humidity: 58 Wind: From the N 8 Mph/13 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L975[12:44:12] <Kathleen> Oh wow, awesome flying weather :D
L976[12:44:55] <Caitlyn> Right Grays... I couldn't remember exactly
L977[12:45:21] <Kathleen> %weather Munich, Germany
L978[12:45:23] <MichiBot> Kathleen: Current weather for Munich, Germany Current Temp: 45°F/7°C Feels Like: 43°F/6°C Current Humidity: 93 Wind: From the NNE 4 Mph/6 Km/h Conditions: Light Rain
L979[12:45:30] <Kathleen> spares me looking out the window :P
L980[12:45:51] <Kathleen> How fast does that update?
L981[12:45:56] <Lizzy> yeah, i could cross the Theames and be in kent
L982[12:46:25] <Caitlyn> Kathleen, as often as the API I query updates?
L983[12:47:02] <Caitlyn> http://www.worldweatheronline.com/ I was using wunderground.com but the location prediction sucked.
L984[12:47:27] <Caitlyn> Finding decent free weather APIs is hard.
L985[12:47:58] <Kathleen> Finding decend free anything APIs is hard
L986[12:48:05] <Caitlyn> Yes.
L987[12:48:16] <Kathleen> Except when there's a company making money off of it.
L988[12:48:44] <S3> Lizzy: oh that's not cold at all
L989[12:48:49] <S3> ..
L990[12:49:12] <Lizzy> S3, oh, and are you going to tell me it's colder where you are? I don't give a shit
L991[12:49:20] <S3> no it's not
L992[12:49:23] <S3> it's 18 right now
L993[12:49:26] <S3> quite warm
L994[12:49:41] <Lizzy> if you spend more than half an hour out in the cold with very few layers you will get cold
L995[12:49:49] <S3> but it gets down to -30 to -40 C here in the winter
L996[12:50:09] <Kathleen> S3: Humid?
L997[12:50:13] <Skye> S3, but you are prepared
L998[12:50:44] <S3> it was 34F/1C the other night and I was out and walking about in a tshirt
L999[12:50:50] <S3> for an hour or so
L1000[12:51:06] <S3> Skye: well, that and we have thick blood here
L1001[12:51:11] <Kathleen> S3: How humid was it then? And how windy?
L1002[12:51:19] <Caitlyn> Weather API calls within the last year.. http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-10-13_12-51-11.png
L1003[12:51:21] <Caitlyn> neat..
L1004[12:51:40] <Kathleen> 2015 was last year? :P
L1005[12:51:57] <Caitlyn> If you notice the 2015 label on the chart...
L1006[12:52:10] <Caitlyn> "last year" means over the last year.
L1007[12:52:31] <Kathleen> Oh, nvm
L1008[12:52:47] <S3> Kathleen: I agree, the wind does make it a lot worse, but Maine is a pretty windy state. I wouldn't say it was too windy then though.
L1009[12:53:08] <Kathleen> S3: You don't have thick blood you just like to brag :P
L1010[12:53:22] <S3> we really do
L1011[12:54:15] <S3> Kathleen: but bragging is still fun :)
L1012[12:54:17] <Kathleen> When its not windy and not humid you can go wander around on the north pole in a T-Shirt. But that's not what this is about if you would look at the weather data above.
L1013[12:55:13] <S3> you know whats going to be fun
L1014[12:55:18] <S3> and this is not a brag
L1015[12:55:23] <Kathleen> Me at parties?
L1016[12:55:33] <S3> from the weather data I've gathered with my ocean sciences professor
L1017[12:55:55] <S3> El nino is going to hit pretty hard this year, which means we're going to get a fuckton of snow here in Maine
L1018[12:56:11] <S3> happens bout every 10 years
L1019[12:56:13] <Kathleen> Like that fuckton you got last(?) yeat?
L1020[12:56:18] <Kathleen> *year
L1021[12:56:21] <S3> lol
L1022[12:56:26] <S3> that will be nothing compared to this
L1023[12:56:35] <S3> itl be like 1997 we're thinking
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L1025[12:56:42] <S3> the year before the ice storm
L1026[12:56:56] <Android_Creeper> ICE
L1027[12:57:01] <Caitlyn> I want a fuckton of snow :(
L1028[12:57:06] <Android_Creeper> i need the ice *sniff*
L1029[12:57:07] <S3> I actually can't recall 100% how much we got last year Kathleen
L1030[12:57:09] <Caitlyn> We usually get a couple of inches here..
L1031[12:57:10] <Kathleen> Caitlyn: Wrong state :P
L1032[12:57:13] <Android_Creeper> I want a snowcone
L1033[12:57:21] <Caitlyn> I miss living in Erie, PA.
L1034[12:57:26] <S3> I think we got a fair ammount of snow Kathleen, but it wasn't anymore than a few feet
L1035[12:57:28] <Caitlyn> Lake Effect snow for DAYS
L1036[12:57:37] <Android_Creeper> Sunny Florida here, where it snows one inch per 25 years!!!
L1037[12:57:42] <Caitlyn> go out and dig for my car..
L1038[12:57:42] <S3> Android_Creeper: yeah we get nasty ice storms here
L1039[12:57:50] <Kathleen> S3: Its ok to only ping me once. I'm still reading <.<
L1040[12:57:58] <Caitlyn> "I swear I parked here"
L1041[12:58:00] <Android_Creeper> 2cold4me
L1042[12:58:10] <S3> the other year all of the roads had at least a solid inch of purified ice on them
L1043[12:58:24] <S3> and all of the trees on routes were fallen over all the way for miles na dmiles
L1044[12:58:26] <Android_Creeper> ummm...traffic hazard?
L1045[12:58:34] <Kathleen> Android_Creeper: What traffic?
L1046[12:58:36] <S3> Android_Creeper: that's when we get our chains on our tires
L1047[12:58:36] <S3> :)
L1048[12:59:05] <Android_Creeper> There are always cars on the road here, no matter how late it is
L1049[12:59:11] <S3> Android_Creeper: sadly enough, we won't have school on days like that, but if we get 3 feet of snow, schooles likely still in session
L1050[12:59:13] <Android_Creeper> *main* roads
L1051[12:59:33] <Android_Creeper> Here we cancel school for hurricanes
L1052[12:59:40] <S3> our "snow days" are usually because of ice
L1053[12:59:51] <Android_Creeper> Hasnt happened yet tho, and ive been here eight years
L1054[13:00:03] <Caitlyn> To change subjects really quick...
L1055[13:00:05] <Caitlyn> "What you see here are 2x IBM SAN volume controllers which govern and control 2x IBM V5000 controllers which store all the data with 3x expansion shelves that house 9x800 GB SSD's with a grand total of 83x 1.2TB 10K SAS disks. "
L1056[13:00:08] <S3> the bus drivers decide if schoolwill be in session when I was in grade school
L1057[13:00:11] <Caitlyn> I want 83 1.2 TB 10k disks...
L1058[13:00:22] <S3> if the bus driver couldnt get out of their front yard safely, then there was no school for that section of town
L1059[13:00:23] <Caitlyn> and 9 800 GB SSDs sounds good to.
L1060[13:00:35] <S3> Caitlyn: wat? how much now?!
L1061[13:00:47] <Caitlyn> http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/tranquility-tech-3/
L1062[13:01:10] <S3> SSDs are becoming quite atrractive now because the memory being used is no longer old school flash, and the 14 trillion write limitations, etc are no longer much of an issue.
L1063[13:01:26] <S3> we were going over that stuff in one of my EE classes.
L1064[13:02:12] <S3> my old FPAL type parallel EEPROMs only support like, 16,000 writes.
L1065[13:02:24] <Android_Creeper> I want enough solid states to fill this: http://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/media/img/timeline_memorystorage_1965.ibm2314.jpg
L1066[13:02:40] <S3> lol
L1067[13:03:01] <S3> at first I thought those were microwaves
L1068[13:03:16] <Kathleen> And I want enough SSDs to put the data on that I want to read quickly, which is exactly what I have.
L1069[13:03:18] <Android_Creeper> IBM storage device from the sixties, held a "whopping" 8x29 MB
L1070[13:03:46] <S3> Android_Creeper: as I surveyed the available equipment in some racks at a place I started doing sysadmin work recently, the servers weren't configured properly for their storage, and I found out they were only utilizing like one disk each
L1071[13:03:56] <S3> when each server had 8 1TB disks
L1072[13:04:08] <S3> not the largest ammount of storage, but wtf.
L1073[13:04:09] <Android_Creeper> I found an 8TB HDD
L1074[13:04:28] <Android_Creeper> it costs more than I have
L1075[13:04:38] <S3> honestly IU'd rather have 8 1TB disks than 1 8TB, but 8 8TB would be better :)
L1076[13:04:44] <scj643> %weather Boston
L1077[13:04:45] <MichiBot> scj643: Current weather for Boston, United States of America Current Temp: 64°F/18°C Feels Like: 64°F/18°C Current Humidity: 88 Wind: From the ESE 7 Mph/11 Km/h Conditions: Mist
L1078[13:04:59] <S3> %weather KBGR
L1079[13:05:01] <Android_Creeper> The first thing Im upgrading on my PC is the HDD, its *way* too loud
L1080[13:05:06] <Kathleen> S3: Its some new Seagate Tech and its rather slow from what I know
L1081[13:05:12] <S3> %weather kbgr
L1082[13:05:15] <Android_Creeper> %weather orlando
L1083[13:05:16] <MichiBot> Android_Creeper: Current weather for Orlando, United States of America Current Temp: 84°F/29°C Feels Like: 88°F/31°C Current Humidity: 59 Wind: From the SW 13 Mph/20 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L1084[13:05:22] <S3> wat, it doesn't take frigging airport names?
L1085[13:05:24] <Lizzy> %weather Sanctuary, Pandora
L1086[13:05:25] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Current weather for Sanctuary, Canada Current Temp: 55°F/13°C Feels Like: 52°F/11°C Current Humidity: 52 Wind: From the W 11 Mph/17 Km/h Conditions: Sunny
L1087[13:05:26] <Kathleen> So its good for backups not good for running anywhere else
L1088[13:05:30] <Lizzy> .-.
L1089[13:05:41] <scj643> I'm lol Lizzy
L1090[13:05:46] <Android_Creeper> %weather MCO
L1091[13:05:47] <MichiBot> Android_Creeper: Current weather for MCO, Orlando International Airport, United States of America Current Temp: 82°F/28°C Feels Like: 85°F/30°C Current Humidity: 58 Wind: From the WSW 8 Mph/13 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L1092[13:05:53] <Android_Creeper> thats better
L1093[13:06:02] <Android_Creeper> %weather SFB
L1094[13:06:03] <MichiBot> Android_Creeper: Current weather for SFB, Orlando Sanford International Airport, United States of America Current Temp: 84°F/29°C Feels Like: 86°F/30°C Current Humidity: 52 Wind: From the W 13 Mph/20 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L1095[13:06:11] <Kathleen> %weather JFK
L1096[13:06:12] <MichiBot> Kathleen: Current weather for JFK, John F Kennedy International Airport, United States of America Current Temp: 72°F/22°C Feels Like: 76°F/25°C Current Humidity: 69 Wind: From the SSW 9 Mph/15 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L1097[13:06:17] <scj643> %weather logan
L1098[13:06:18] <MichiBot> scj643: Current weather for Logan, United States of America Current Temp: 56°F/13°C Feels Like: 56°F/13°C Current Humidity: 42 Wind: From the NNE 4 Mph/6 Km/h Conditions: Sunny
L1099[13:06:21] <S3> Kathleen: in the industry, a lot of people have stoppped using them before they started getting better, but they make very fast, very massive magnetic tapes now for backups.
L1100[13:06:22] <Android_Creeper> this is fun
L1101[13:06:28] <scj643> Not their the airport
L1102[13:06:30] <gamax92> ._. please stap abusing weather
L1103[13:06:32] <Kathleen> S3: I know
L1104[13:06:41] <S3> finding 16TB tapes is easy that can record at crazy speeds
L1105[13:06:52] <Kathleen> S3: Sequentially that is :P
L1106[13:06:57] <S3> right
L1107[13:07:06] <scj643> It's fun though
L1108[13:07:06] <S3> but with bakula it isgreat for a cold site datacenter backup
L1109[13:07:10] <gamax92> tape index
L1110[13:07:31] <Android_Creeper> The second captain america movie...no way those tape drives were fast enough to run someones brain
L1111[13:07:42] <Kathleen> Android_Creeper: Not without caches
L1112[13:07:48] <Kathleen> But with? surely
L1113[13:08:10] <S3> disks are great for a lot of backups, but if your datacenter catches fire, I'd rather have a plan to set everything up and just re-roll it off of a tape changer
L1114[13:08:26] <Android_Creeper> Offsite backups FTW
L1115[13:08:27] <S3> and then handle the individual backups for lesser things
L1116[13:08:38] <Kathleen> S3: Fire proof Hard drives :P
L1117[13:08:53] <S3> that's reat until you drive to a cold site with your hard disk
L1118[13:08:56] <S3> and it dies on the way
L1119[13:09:12] <Android_Creeper> Blast Resistant ME drive
L1120[13:09:12] <S3> especially if they're SCSI, which is pretty sensitive
L1121[13:09:28] <Kathleen> Thats why you don't remove it again
L1122[13:09:43] <S3> but.. if you can get your hand on some fibre channel solid state SCSI disks..
L1123[13:09:51] * S3 drolls
L1124[13:09:55] * S3 drools
L1125[13:10:12] <Android_Creeper> I just realized how big AE storage cells are, considering that the drive bays are a meter tall
L1126[13:10:26] <S3> Android_Creeper: crazy eh?
L1127[13:10:37] <Kathleen> S3: https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/2rev7p/i_fought_the_faa_and_the_law_won/
L1128[13:10:45] <S3> Android_Creeper: look at how big the raid array is for OC
L1129[13:10:50] <S3> its excessive :)
L1130[13:10:55] <Android_Creeper> Im coming for you sysadmin
L1131[13:11:00] <Android_Creeper> You blocked reddit
L1132[13:11:05] <S3> the bays are like 1984 mainframe disks
L1133[13:11:14] <Android_Creeper> Thanks a lot for making me get a life
L1134[13:12:05] <S3> wait
L1135[13:12:08] <S3> wat
L1136[13:12:14] <Android_Creeper> GameBoy colors can be overclocked to over twice their normal speed
L1137[13:14:02] <Android_Creeper> à
L1138[13:14:24] <Android_Creeper> ╟
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L1140[13:14:45] <Android_Creeper> %weather clinton
L1141[13:14:46] <MichiBot> Android_Creeper: Current weather for Clinton, United States of America Current Temp: 74°F/24°C Feels Like: 77°F/25°C Current Humidity: 57 Wind: From the SW 7 Mph/11 Km/h Conditions: Sunny
L1142[13:15:02] <Android_Creeper> %weather clinton arkansaw
L1143[13:15:03] <MichiBot> Android_Creeper: Current weather for Clinton, United States of America Current Temp: 74°F/24°C Feels Like: 77°F/25°C Current Humidity: 57 Wind: From the SW 7 Mph/11 Km/h Conditions: Sunny
L1144[13:15:12] <S3> Kathleen: LOL
L1145[13:15:15] <S3> good read
L1146[13:15:29] <Kathleen> S3: The comments are gold too
L1147[13:15:37] <S3> ....
L1148[13:16:04] <Kathleen> "AID is for hardware problems; Backups are for human problems." Best thing I read in ages :D
L1149[13:16:10] <Kathleen> *RAID
L1150[13:16:10] <Lizzy> enough weather spam
L1151[13:16:11] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L1152[13:16:18] <S3> :)
L1153[13:16:37] <cloakable> %weather Bristol England
L1154[13:16:37] <Android_Creeper> Black Hole: --> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife <--
L1155[13:16:38] <MichiBot> cloakable: Current weather for Bristol, United Kingdom Current Temp: 48°F/9°C Feels Like: 44°F/7°C Current Humidity: 76 Wind: From the N 9 Mph/15 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L1156[13:16:59] <S3> I was actually checking over plans for my OC OS, OCBSD, and pondered striping the unmanaged disk clusters with the concatenated disk driver ccd
L1157[13:17:15] <S3> but the problem is that won't do anything.
L1158[13:17:26] <S3> However, I can boost performance by caching sectors in memory :)
L1159[13:17:46] <S3> It will at least be faster than using managed drives
L1160[13:18:02] <Android_Creeper> I can build a PC and code a little C++, but I have NO IDEA what you are talking about.
L1161[13:18:30] <S3> There is a large problem with sector caching. I need Magik6k to think about what it would take to add an optional journaling system to Mr.FS
L1162[13:18:46] <S3> because if somebody is caching sectors then just turns his computer off...
L1163[13:19:50] <Android_Creeper> I found a naked singularity
L1164[13:20:10] <S3> at least because I am implementing partition tables with SOPT the FAT12 boot partitions and etc will remain safe.
L1165[13:20:23] <Kathleen> Android_Creeper: Did you though?
L1166[13:21:03] <Kathleen> S3: Screw them. If ppl just turn off a computer its their problem, isn't it?
L1167[13:21:06] <Android_Creeper> Its right heree, I am somewhat confident that only light can escape its attraction: ----> http://tvtropes.org/ <----
L1168[13:21:56] <Kathleen> Android_Creeper: Mate, most people in here do not give a shit about TV Tropes, stop throwing it around/
L1169[13:21:57] <S3> Kathleen: the more that's going on, the more RAM you're going to need to run OCBSD. Available RAM is a problem with OC, so I guess we'll see how much headroom we have.
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L1171[13:22:12] <Kathleen> S3: Limit it?
L1172[13:22:25] <S3> There's only so much you can do with Lua
L1173[13:22:33] <Kathleen> Yeah...
L1174[13:22:36] <S3> but somebody informed me that they played with a working SWAP implementation somehow
L1175[13:22:44] <S3> I have no idea how the hack that works
L1176[13:24:15] <S3> Although even IRL I avoid swap as much as possible, and unless I'm running an actual server, I usually only have kilobytes to megabytes of swap
L1177[13:24:45] <S3> it forces FreeBSD to take the time to perform cleanup. before allocating unnecessary swap.
L1178[13:25:02] <S3> and, if it crashes, it crashes.
L1179[13:25:40] <S3> on a server the swap sizes re much, much larger, but you can connect them to the mailer so that it alerts you when a certain ammount of swap is allocated
L1180[13:26:16] <S3> the catch is allocated and used memory are two completely different things..
L1181[13:28:21] <Sangar> o/
L1182[13:28:34] <gamax92> Sangar: idea
L1183[13:28:46] <gamax92> patch lua 5.3 to support unicode identifiers
L1184[13:29:13] <Sangar> ?
L1185[13:29:15] <gamax92> completely harmless and very easy to do
L1186[13:29:20] <gamax92> for oc
L1187[13:29:49] <gamax92> so you can do stuff like have a lambda character as a variable name
L1188[13:30:04] <Sangar> oh you mean the actual language? >_>
L1189[13:30:04] <S3> ............
L1190[13:30:08] <Sangar> nope
L1191[13:30:08] <S3> WHAT
L1192[13:30:11] <Sangar> nopenopenopenopenope
L1193[13:30:17] <gamax92> Sangar: why nope?
L1194[13:30:27] <S3> nobody likes unicode? :)
L1195[13:30:42] <Sangar> why would i suddenly intentionally deviate from standard lua? >_>
L1196[13:31:01] <S3> to make another standard!
L1197[13:31:03] <gamax92> because it's oc-lua and luajit has supported it for 6 years
L1198[13:31:14] <S3> Sangar: https://xkcd.com/927/
L1199[13:31:45] <Kathleen> %xkcd enable
L1200[13:31:46] <Sangar> just replace load with function load(c,...) load(string.replace(c,'\uLAMBDA', "lambda"),...) end or whatever :X
L1201[13:31:47] <MichiBot> Kathleen: Invalid ID
L1202[13:31:50] <Kathleen> :(
L1203[13:32:18] <S3> everyone I found it!
L1204[13:32:26] <gamax92> Sangar: that is not the same
L1205[13:32:27] <S3> Sangar: I found the pie crust log I was telling you about
L1206[13:32:29] <S3> http://pastebin.com/RyMr3Nir
L1207[13:32:30] <S3> Sangar: ^
L1208[13:32:46] <S3> mister pie_crust is hilarious
L1209[13:32:50] <S3> gamax92: good read too
L1210[13:32:58] <gamax92> how dare you, I took an entire 2 minutes to make it support unicode identifiers, and then you shoot me down :(
L1211[13:34:23] <Sangar> gamax92, i'm just really not a fan of unicode in code :/
L1212[13:34:36] <S3> yeah because people like me can't see your code
L1213[13:34:49] <Vexatos> Sangar, uni code
L1214[13:34:51] <Vexatos> I am at uni
L1215[13:34:54] <Vexatos> and I'm writing code
L1216[13:34:59] <Vexatos> am I writing... uni code?
L1217[13:34:59] <Vexatos> D:
L1218[13:35:06] <Sangar> that is actually part of it :X
L1219[13:35:10] <gamax92> well technically, it would also support any other random codepage you'd like
L1220[13:35:14] <Sangar> people writing code using umlauts in variable names
L1221[13:35:17] <Sangar> such pain
L1222[13:35:28] <Caitlyn> %xkcd enable
L1223[13:35:28] <MichiBot> Caitlyn: Invalid ID
L1224[13:35:35] <Caitlyn> Wut.
L1225[13:35:36] <Caitlyn> Oh.
L1226[13:36:00] <Caitlyn> It doesn't look in the middle of messages.
L1227[13:36:10] <Sangar> gamax92, i prefer plain and simple characters, i'm oldfashioned like that :X
L1228[13:36:50] <S3> Lol that log is hilarious
L1229[13:36:58] <Sangar> S3 i don't even
L1230[13:37:26] <S3> "32 bits is the packet size Google uses"
L1231[13:37:30] <S3> xD
L1232[13:37:34] <Kathleen> Sangar: There's a good argument to be made. If you use ASCII pretty much every keyboard out there can easily edit that. (Unless cyrillic ofc)
L1233[13:38:24] <S3> My emacs would freak out at your uni crap
L1234[13:38:26] <Sangar> yes, that, definitely that. also any more actual arguments are welcome :P my only real one is staying true to vanilla lua (for... reasons)
L1235[13:38:43] <Sangar> the other ones are mostly subjective :X
L1236[13:38:49] <Kathleen> Sangar: Legacy compatability
L1237[13:38:55] <Kathleen> CC compatability maybe?
L1238[13:39:06] <S3> There should be a hcf function though
L1239[13:39:10] <Kathleen> ^
L1240[13:39:26] <Kathleen> S3: Add it to OCBSD >:D
L1241[13:39:30] <S3> ...
L1242[13:39:34] <Sangar> it's called the sd card and is in computronics :P
L1243[13:39:39] <S3> Now for an I going to do that
L1244[13:40:25] <S3> Echo 1 > /dev/hcf
L1245[13:40:36] <Kathleen> ded
L1246[13:41:07] <S3> It'll actual probably be in /sys as a kobj if I did.
L1247[13:42:57] * Lizzy wonders where the microphone is on her laptop
L1248[13:43:33] <Lizzy> ah, next to the camera
L1249[13:43:40] <S3> It is often either below the keyboard or somewhere or of the way
L1250[13:43:47] <S3> Or that
L1251[13:43:55] <S3> I don't have a web cam
L1252[13:43:57] <Kathleen> Meep
L1253[13:44:04] <Lizzy> meep
L1254[13:44:10] <S3> Kathleen I hope you read that log
L1255[13:44:13] <S3> :)
L1256[13:44:18] <S3> You'll live it
L1257[13:44:21] <S3> Love*
L1258[13:44:25] <Kathleen> I did but I'm gone for now (only phone)
L1259[13:44:30] <Kathleen> Yeah, its awesome
L1260[13:44:32] <S3> Lol
L1261[13:44:58] <S3> It was a few years ago in #redpower
L1262[13:48:29] <Kathleen> yeah, I was wondering. redpower did not seem to active lately
L1263[13:48:54] <S3> https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/10308094_10152421270945987_784183873804983314_n.jpg?oh=8454b7d201e548e680118b5fce0ebb38&oe=568A2FCF
L1264[13:49:16] <Kathleen> CD
L1265[13:49:30] <Lizzy> Sangar, in openos, if i go into the lua prompt, will i have all the basic stuff an EEPROM would if i don't require anything?
L1266[13:49:30] <Kathleen> XD
L1267[13:49:37] <Kathleen> fuck you phone
L1268[13:50:39] <Sangar> Lizzy, you'd have everything and much more than an eeprom has
L1269[13:51:02] <Lizzy> even without require()'ing stuff?
L1270[13:51:21] <Sangar> for one, lua standard libs reimplemented by openos are present by default, for two, lua interpreter in openos auto-requires stuff
L1271[13:51:30] <Lizzy> ah
L1272[13:52:50] <S3> Yeah. The good news is that even with just an eeprom you get a lot
L1273[13:53:08] <Sangar> yah, particularly proxies
L1274[13:53:27] <Lizzy> also Sangar is the /tmp dir available to EEPROMs?
L1275[13:53:39] <Sangar> there's no vfs on eeprom level
L1276[13:53:45] <Lizzy> hmm
L1277[13:53:45] <Sangar> the *filesystem* is available
L1278[13:54:02] <Vexatos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvqxjZr79eE
L1279[13:54:05] <S3> It's for a fair size to right?
L1280[13:54:09] <Lizzy> so i'd have to write my own FS driver potentially?
L1281[13:54:10] <Sangar> i.e. you can proxy it and then access tmp via that
L1282[13:54:14] <Sangar> yeh
L1283[13:54:32] <Kathleen> t
L1284[13:54:37] <S3> I was thinking of using tmpfs as a place for my init rd like stuff to save memory
L1285[13:54:40] <Kathleen> gah
L1286[13:54:47] <gamax92> F
L1287[13:55:09] <Lizzy> hmm, k i think i'll get a eeprom working how i want then i'll try including auto-updating systems
L1288[13:55:36] <Lizzy> the eeprom is 4096k isn't it?
L1289[13:55:40] <gamax92> 4096 bytes
L1290[13:55:43] <S3> I need to finish working on my forth eeprom
L1291[13:56:01] <Lizzy> okay, lets get to work
L1292[13:56:02] <S3> It's working except you can't fall functions inside of functions
L1293[13:57:10] <S3> 4K
L1294[13:57:38] <S3> Lizzy using locals and notification that's like 200 lines of code about
L1295[13:57:46] <S3> Modification*
L1296[13:57:53] <S3> Wtf phone
L1297[13:58:00] <Lizzy> why are you telling me this?
L1298[13:58:02] <S3> Minification
L1299[13:58:25] <S3> No idea actually :)
L1300[14:00:51] <gamax92> because using an eeprom generally leads to lua minification programs to straight up lz77 compression
L1301[14:01:30] <S3> What is that
L1302[14:01:35] <Kodos> Use cases for virtual components, go
L1303[14:01:36] <gamax92> which
L1304[14:01:42] * Kathleen cuddles Lizzy
L1305[14:01:43] <gamax92> virtual filesystems
L1306[14:01:52] <Lizzy> /me cuddles Kathleen
L1307[14:01:53] <gamax92> testing environments
L1308[14:01:54] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L1309[14:02:03] * Lizzy cuddles Kathleen
L1310[14:02:08] <S3> Component like networking behavior
L1311[14:02:18] <gamax92> networking components
L1312[14:02:30] <gamax92> so you make a fake one that calls out over the network to a remote computer
L1313[14:03:02] <S3> I kodos did you ever see my vr positioning system I made?
L1314[14:03:02] <gamax92> also to understand how a component works, if you can replicate it,.
L1315[14:03:43] <S3> It uses player sensors and my idea was to make a virtual component that converted the data from those into readable xz coords
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L1317[14:04:02] <S3> So the whole room would act as one component
L1318[14:05:43] <S3> So sangar. I see you have some cluster functions for unmanaged disks...
L1319[14:05:59] <S3> But the disks don't have any cluster s?
L1320[14:07:20] <Sangar> hm?
L1321[14:08:35] <asie> S3: why do you need clusters?
L1322[14:08:38] <asie> fake 'em!
L1323[14:09:33] <S3> I don't
L1324[14:09:45] <S3> Since I have inodes
L1325[14:09:50] <S3> But
L1326[14:09:53] <Sangar> S3 if you mean sectors: disk platters are being (very casually) faked by pretending that there's a head that has to jump -> long jumps are (a *lot*) slower
L1327[14:10:19] <S3> Oh wait I was mistaken
L1328[14:10:22] <S3> I meant
L1329[14:10:39] <S3> There is get platter count but there are no platters yes?
L1330[14:10:47] <Sangar> there are, virtually
L1331[14:10:51] <S3> Oh I see what you mean
L1332[14:11:06] <S3> I see
L1333[14:11:23] <S3> So the fact that I am doing sector caching in ram is good
L1334[14:11:25] <S3> Lol
L1335[14:11:27] <Sangar> if you want the technicalities, http://git.io/vC23n :P
L1336[14:11:32] <Sangar> yep
L1337[14:11:55] <S3> By the way just how much memory is t3.5 really?
L1338[14:12:03] <gamax92> 2MiB
L1339[14:12:05] <Sangar> specifically http://git.io/vC23a
L1340[14:12:07] <S3> I didn't see it on the wiki
L1341[14:12:15] <S3> I see
L1342[14:12:19] <gamax92> oh, one stick is 1
L1343[14:12:29] <gamax92> but generally you use two and get 2MB
L1344[14:12:41] <S3> OK. Existent keeping sector cache small by default
L1345[14:12:48] <S3> Definately*
L1346[14:13:04] <S3> Maybe even off
L1347[14:13:34] <S3> Yeah.. Until mrfs can be bothered it's dangerous. I'll leave it off by default
L1348[14:13:44] <S3> Journaled*
L1349[14:14:07] <Sangar> a propos, asie, http://git.io/vC2sY :P
L1350[14:14:27] <asie> Sangar: SHIA LABEOUF
L1351[14:14:53] <Turtle> Hmh, I would probably best off copying the relay functionality when trying to implement powerline adapters, right?
L1352[14:14:53] <Sangar> that's a meme i'm not familiar with :X
L1353[14:16:43] <Kathleen> wasn't he arrested just a day or two ago?
L1354[14:16:53] <Kathleen> Sangar: JUST DO IT
L1355[14:16:57] <Kathleen> Google it.
L1356[14:16:59] <Kathleen> now.
L1357[14:17:02] <Sangar> oh
L1358[14:17:05] <Sangar> that's that guy
L1359[14:17:14] <Sangar> okthen :P
L1360[14:17:17] <Turtle> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/shia-labeoufs-intense-motivational-speech-just-do-it <- You guys know this exists, yes?
L1361[14:17:19] <Turtle> :p
L1362[14:17:25] <Sangar> yes
L1363[14:17:32] <Sangar> i just didn't know the name of the guy :P
L1364[14:18:16] <Turtle> alright
L1365[14:18:18] <Kathleen> fun fact: he was arrested for yelling "JUST DO IT" while drunk
L1366[14:18:22] <Sangar> lol
L1367[14:18:27] <Sangar> that *is* a fun fact
L1368[14:18:37] <Kathleen> in Texas iirc
L1369[14:18:53] <Kathleen> someone with better internet go find the article
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L1371[14:19:54] <Kathleen> Sangar: you should visit your local CCC. we have a pinball machine :P
L1372[14:20:07] <S3> Huh
L1373[14:20:17] <Sangar> pfft
L1374[14:20:31] <Kathleen> 3D printer?
L1375[14:20:31] <S3> So a 66K fat12 boot partition gives me 46K of space
L1376[14:20:44] <S3> Should be easy more than once
L1377[14:20:46] <Sangar> warmer :P
L1378[14:20:47] <S3> Enough*
L1379[14:21:23] <Kathleen> laser cutter?
L1380[14:21:49] <Sangar> ^^
L1381[14:22:13] <Kathleen> we also have a flipboard
L1382[14:22:26] <Sangar> no hologram projector? :P
L1383[14:22:46] <Kathleen> those old white/black displays they used for parking lots at the allianz arena
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L1386[14:25:44] <Lizzy> Sangar, what was the outcome of the issue i opened about getting the colour which changed for bundled redstone cables on teir 2 cards?
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L1388[14:26:38] <Sangar> Lizzy, it's still open iirc
L1389[14:26:53] * Lizzy goes to check
L1390[14:29:17] <Lizzy> yes it is, lets try mpmxyz's idea to see if it does indeed work
L1391[14:31:48] <Kodos> Which idea was that
L1392[14:32:09] <Lizzy> issue #1385
L1393[14:35:16] <Lizzy> annoyingly the first value is named, the rest are not
L1394[14:35:29] <Kodos> What do you mean
L1395[14:36:02] <Lizzy> as soon as puush decides to work i'll show you
L1396[14:36:47] <Lizzy> http://puu.sh/kJ69s/6e6100fff0.png & http://puu.sh/kJ6cj/de9d910e23.png (listing from the second value onwards)
L1397[14:37:14] <Kodos> should just be a[#] where # is the color number
L1398[14:37:19] <Kodos> 1-16, or 0-15, I forget
L1399[14:38:40] <Lizzy> that works, i guess. more things i have to work out
L1400[14:41:21] <Kodos> ~w table
L1401[14:41:21] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-table
L1402[14:44:28] <Turtle> ... Did the way you add mod apis to a dev env change between now and... when was minecraft 1.4 a thing?
L1403[14:45:23] <gamax92> Turtle has never experienced the joy of gradle :O
L1404[14:45:31] <Sangar> Turtle, use gradle + maven when you can. otherwise throw jars at /libs
L1405[14:45:38] <Turtle> Well I have, since I got forge running using it just now
L1406[14:45:55] <Turtle> but... crud. it was late 2012-early 2013
L1407[14:46:13] <Turtle> YEP. Everything I remember about forge is going to be irrelevant now .-.
L1408[14:46:59] <Sangar> probably :X
L1409[14:48:42] <Turtle> I suppose it´s for the best. Everything was incredibly crummily done I remember.
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L1414[14:56:53] <Lizzy> #lua a={1,2,3,4,2,32,454}
L1415[14:56:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L1416[14:57:04] <Lizzy> #lua =a
L1417[14:57:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '='
L1418[14:57:08] <Lizzy> #lua a
L1419[14:57:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > table: 0x7fd54c023890
L1420[14:57:34] <Turtle> A bouncer with a bot running is creepy ;-;
L1421[14:57:39] <Lizzy> ?
L1422[14:57:52] <Lizzy> #lua ",".join(a)
L1423[14:57:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '","'
L1424[14:58:02] <Lizzy> hmm
L1425[14:58:10] <Lizzy> #lua b=",".join(a)
L1426[14:58:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '.'
L1427[14:58:21] <Turtle> I am entirely incompetent at reading. Ignore what I said
L1428[14:58:21] <Lizzy> ~w table
L1429[14:58:21] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-table
L1430[14:58:42] <Turtle> (I blame trying to figure out how gradle works while looking at IRC)
L1431[14:58:48] <Kodos> Sanger, error indicator LED for servers when
L1432[14:59:36] <Turtle> ^ To add on to that, ´Lack´ table server rack when
L1433[14:59:59] <Sangar> Kodos, dunno, didn't Magik6k want to have a look at that? :P
L1434[15:00:01] <Lizzy> #lua table.concat( a, ",")
L1435[15:00:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1,2,3,4,2,32,454
L1436[15:00:16] <S3> There
L1437[15:00:18] <Sangar> (for 1.5 anyway)
L1438[15:00:24] <Sangar> for 1.6... we'll see
L1439[15:00:24] <S3> I have a bit disk prepared :)
L1440[15:00:29] <S3> Boot
L1441[15:00:48] <Kodos> No idea
L1442[15:01:42] <Turtle> ... rip I borked my dev env.
L1443[15:02:03] <S3> squee http://hastebin.com/peyajeyaqe.txt
L1444[15:02:14] <Lizzy> k, the table.concat idea doesn't work because for some reason the first entry has a key whereas the rest dont
L1445[15:02:15] <Sangar> i remember doing that all the time pre gradle :P
L1446[15:02:19] <Sangar> (breaking my dev-env that is)
L1447[15:02:23] <S3> should be a powerful enough solution to boot anything we will ever need to
L1448[15:02:40] <S3> all that on a ~64K fat12 system
L1449[15:03:02] <Turtle> I remember somehow breaking all inventories in the game when trying to implement one
L1450[15:03:11] <Turtle> For the rest, my dev env was pretty stable
L1451[15:05:13] <Kodos> Sangar, doesn't look like Magik was gonna. https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1416
L1452[15:05:57] <Sangar> Kodos, was referring to the "As it seems fairly simple to implement, I may try to do it in some of my free time and PR." in his op
L1453[15:06:46] <Kodos> Ah, missed th at
L1454[15:06:49] <Kodos> What I get for being up this late
L1455[15:06:49] <Kodos> lol
L1456[15:07:02] <Sangar> late?
L1457[15:07:38] <Kodos> I've been up for almost 24h
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L1459[15:07:45] <Sangar> yikes
L1460[15:08:16] <Sangar> good reminder though; i wanted to get some more sleep than usual tonight in hopes of avoiding getting sick :X
L1461[15:08:19] <Sangar> so i'll be off
L1462[15:08:21] <Sangar> gnight o/
L1463[15:08:35] <Turtle> Cya
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L1466[15:10:48] <Lizzy> dammit vex isn't here
L1467[15:13:01] <Turtle> ugh. I´m not awake enough for this. I´ll just restart a new dev env tomorrow.
L1468[15:16:25] <S3> lol
L1469[15:20:02] <Lizzy> wait, do lua tables start from 0 or 1?
L1470[15:20:39] <gamax92> 1
L1471[15:21:05] <Lizzy> that will explain why this isn't working how i want it to
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L1473[15:24:59] <CompanionCube> anyone want to see some imgur pics of my desktop?
L1474[15:26:02] <CompanionCube> https://imgur.com/a/Nr5q3
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L1476[15:26:42] <Turtle> Lizzy, Yeaaah, Lua is weird like that
L1477[15:26:58] <Turtle> with a little magic you can force it to start from 0, but it´s not recommended
L1478[15:27:05] <XDjackieXD> CompanionCube: and again the ugly outlines of the wallpaper annoy me :P Doesn't this annoy you too? ._.
L1479[15:27:15] <CompanionCube> XDjackieXD, no
L1480[15:27:28] <CompanionCube> what do you think of my zsh?
L1481[15:27:51] <Lizzy> well, it would be fine except the getBundledInput() without a colour value to get returns a table with an entry with a key of 0 and the rest as sequenced values
L1482[15:28:02] <XDjackieXD> looks nice. I don't really like the font but there are worse :P
L1483[15:28:10] <Turtle> yeaaah
L1484[15:28:12] <XDjackieXD> (I use the powerlevel9k theme for my zsh ^^)
L1485[15:28:17] <Turtle> Blame uh... whomever implemented it
L1486[15:37:33] <Lizzy> right, shower then bed time
L1487[15:43:54] <CompanionCube> XDjackieXD, I like the font myself
L1488[15:44:14] <CompanionCube> someone from #archlinux posted it and I liked it
L1489[15:44:30] <XDjackieXD> CompanionCube ^,^ everyone has his favourites I guess
L1490[16:07:36] <Kodos> Oh hey, Starbound is putting out more filler blogs while they delay content more
L1491[16:14:05] <Turtle> Yep, it´s a shame
L1492[16:15:27] <scj643> Lizzy mention me when you get a chance to get things setup
L1493[16:15:52] <Turtle> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/731983185/starbound-penguin-plush-project A KICKSTARTER FOR A FAILED KICKSTARTER PROJECT. ugh.
L1494[16:16:29] <Turtle> actually was starbound kickstarter? I might be confusing it here with another game
L1495[16:19:41] <Turtle> Aparently it was done via the humble store in a kickstarter style, so I guess my rant is still valid
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L1499[16:29:35] <Noob> Starbound isnt a bad game actually. Hell, I love the way content is implemented there
L1500[16:30:33] <Turtle> It´s not a bad game, it´s a bad project, if that makes sense.
L1501[16:30:50] <Noob> Whats so bad about this project though?
L1502[16:30:55] <Caitlyn> Ugh migraines suck.
L1503[16:30:58] <Turtle> The idea is great, the artwork is pretty impressive, it´s just that development is dangerously slow
L1504[16:31:03] <Caitlyn> I've not got shit done on OpenPrinter since my last message
L1505[16:31:10] <Noob> There are reasons to it actually
L1506[16:31:15] <Caitlyn> I see I missed Sangar too
L1507[16:31:16] <Turtle> Caitlyn, stress induced?
L1508[16:31:36] * Caitlyn shrugs
L1509[16:31:38] <Caitlyn> I've had them since 2
L1510[16:31:54] <Caitlyn> and I keep a headache pretty much 24/7
L1511[16:32:07] <Caitlyn> It's hard to track when one stops and another starts.
L1512[16:32:18] <Noob> The reason for slow development is that rather than implementing all content on C++ level, they're creating a complex "framework" for it to create content with Lua
L1513[16:32:19] <Turtle> I assume you went and saw a doctor?
L1514[16:32:40] <Turtle> Noob, well yeah, but the featurecreep is bad, people buy one product and receive an entirely different one, rather than a refined one
L1515[16:32:52] <Turtle> and there´s the risk of the studio going bankrupt halfway
L1516[16:32:57] <Caitlyn> Yeah, They've even done CT scans, found nothing wrong. I've tried every migraine med known
L1517[16:33:11] <Turtle> Caitlyn, ouch.
L1518[16:33:14] <Noob> If you check their blog, recently they've hugely accelerated at content creating. And they're doing quite a lot of crazy things with it
L1519[16:33:38] <Noob> Hell they even added analog of OC's "3d printer" in there xD
L1520[16:33:57] <Caitlyn> Heard talk of Anti Depressants helping... and they'd probably help with my depression too :p
L1521[16:33:59] <Caitlyn> so maybe.
L1522[16:34:28] <Turtle> Could be, I only get migraines from stress or when my glasses are not clean.
L1523[16:34:34] <Noob> (basically, you print tile blocks which can have glow and be toggleable by either RMB or wire. texture is any - you just paint it and/or use presets lol)
L1524[16:34:39] <Caitlyn> The good news is this: http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-10-13_16-34-31.png
L1525[16:34:46] <Turtle> \o/
L1526[16:35:00] <Caitlyn> I'm reading the NBT off of 2 pages in my Folder item's inventory
L1527[16:36:38] <Noob> Turtle: but agree, they had to wait with public release. Because as of now, Starbound is what many MC modders wished MC to be like :< The modding API there is just insanely easy and advanced
L1528[16:37:00] <Turtle> Noob, I get their way of doing it and why, but it´s risky.
L1529[16:37:17] <Turtle> (Hence I´ve not given them any money (yet))
L1530[16:37:43] <Noob> Well I'd give them money... unfortunately I'm afraid to buy anything on steam lately -.-
L1531[16:37:56] <gamax92> Give them your money (when you can (if you can (if you want to (parenthesis))))
L1532[16:38:28] <Inari> Noob: if its so advanced then i havent seen much done with mods for that xD
L1533[16:38:53] <Turtle> Noob, do a bit of research, and make sure the studio is good
L1534[16:39:13] <Noob> Inari: because it's still in a very alpha state and it's only recently that world format came to stable state lol
L1535[16:39:54] <Noob> Actually I'm a pirate with honour. I've pirated their game few times and as of last time I think it's *almost* deserves to be bought. Maybe next time when it's on sale I'll just buy it
L1536[16:40:30] <gamax92> >when on sale
L1537[16:40:33] <Turtle> I was considering buying the new Civ on release, but as it´s Civ, you have to wait for the expensions for it to become truely good T.T
L1538[16:42:01] <Turtle> Same goes for indies, know what you´re buying and check what the hell the studio is doing :p
L1539[16:44:01] <Noob> For example I've pirated Deus Ex: Human Revolution, played it, it was awesome. So later when it was on sale (dont remember, like 60%) I've bought 4 copies of game for me and my friends
L1540[16:45:23] <Noob> But with Watch_Dogs... I didnt even buy it later. It's just too terrible. And with that agressive DRM and quite retarded uplay system... I decided "nah, ubi doesnt deserve to be paid for it"
L1541[16:45:43] <Noob> Am I still a filthy pirate? :(
L1542[16:46:32] <Turtle> Yep. Because CEOs and managers are still promoted from physical goods corporations and have no idea how the internet or computers work.
L1543[16:49:07] <Noob> Well I dont have big love for neither EA nor Ubisoft nor Activision CEOs. If they want my money they should start actually making games
L1544[16:49:46] <Noob> Especially with all the bugged AAA titles lately (Hello to AC: Unity with bugs so bad every gameplay footage on youtube features at least 1)
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L1546[16:55:09] <Caitlyn> Next up, refactor all of my mods to use Emoji for class/variable names.
L1547[16:56:32] <Noob> Caitlyn: The github page has the latest versions of your mods, right?
L1548[16:56:54] <Caitlyn> well, baring the current rewrite of OP, yes
L1549[16:58:39] <gamax92> <3 hide fedora extension
L1550[16:58:49] <gamax92> no more stupid fucking HISSSS comments
L1551[16:59:19] <Caitlyn> o_O
L1552[16:59:54] <gamax92> one youtuber does something, WELP GOTTA PUT SAME THING ON EVERY SINGLE VIDEO EVER BY ANYONE AMIRIGHT?
L1553[17:00:33] <Turtle> WE ARE IN THE BEEM
L1554[17:00:48] <Caitlyn> Oh gods.. this sounds amazing.
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L1559[17:40:29] <Caitlyn> 93% of 10 GB of ram used, and I'm seeing like 4 GB tops used...
L1560[17:40:31] <Caitlyn> thanks windows
L1561[17:42:39] * CompanionCube found Windows Vista was eating 50% of his RAM...at boot.
L1562[17:43:20] <Caitlyn> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-10-13_17-43-11.png
L1563[17:44:54] <Caitlyn> Need to reboot the damn box, which sadly runs the VM that is my router.
L1564[17:44:56] <Caitlyn> so... fuckin yay
L1565[17:45:56] <Caitlyn> %p
L1566[17:45:57] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Caitlyn 0.5s
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L1568[18:00:57] <Caitlyn> %p
L1569[18:00:58] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Caitlyn 0.39s
L1570[18:01:01] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬
L1571[18:01:07] <Caitlyn> Well, I'm on IPv4 atleast.
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L1586[18:49:50] <scj643> Just beat borderlands
L1587[18:49:52] <scj643> 2
L1588[19:03:28] <ds84182> gamax92: mmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHmMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmhh, FUUNNNNNNYYY JOOOOKE
L1589[19:13:21] <ds84182> Oh wow, youtube app froze because it got interrupted by another app
L1590[19:13:28] <ds84182> IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING VIDEO
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L1597[20:02:14] * gamax92 connects a malicious cartridge to ds84182
L1598[20:02:30] <ds84182> I I'll kill you
L1599[20:03:31] <gamax92> see it's working
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L1616[21:27:44] <ds84182> I need to sleep
L1617[21:27:44] <ds84182> .
L1618[21:27:48] <ds84182> Seleep.
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L1620[21:38:04] <gamax92> scelep
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L1623[21:58:55] <IzayaXMPP> guys help
L1624[21:59:07] <IzayaXMPP> anyone have any idea how to make the terminal open in OS X?
L1625[21:59:18] <IzayaXMPP> I've somehow ended up using a CRT iMac
L1626[21:59:30] <IzayaXMPP> and it has OS X 10.3.8
L1627[21:59:32] <IzayaXMPP> wat do
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L1630[22:28:59] <Spookdra> IzayaXMPP, launch Terminal.app?
L1631[22:29:25] <gamax92> CRT iMac o.o
L1632[22:29:38] <gamax92> now there's a throwback!
L1633[22:30:19] <IzayaXMPP> Spook, how?
L1634[22:30:28] <IzayaXMPP> Is there a run key combo or something?
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L1644[23:08:12] <vifino> Izaya: applications, utilities and then Terminal
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