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L2[00:25:20] <Mimiru> yay I think build 6 fixes most known issues.
L3[00:28:24] <Kodos> Okay, going to start working on a magcard copier
L4[00:29:08] <Kodos> A written card makes the reader flash green, and a blank card makes it red, what triggers yellow?
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L6[00:34:11] <Kodos> I love dmesg
L7[00:37:25] <SoraFirestorm> did you figure out what causes yellow?
L8[00:37:53] <Kodos> Nope
L9[00:37:56] <SoraFirestorm> :/
L10[00:39:18] * Kodos pokes Mimiru
L11[00:41:00] <dangranos> yellow is caused by red and green?
L12[00:41:18] <Kodos> o.O
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L16[00:43:58] <dangranos> Kodos: so, what causes it?
L17[00:44:05] <Kodos> I don't know, that's what I was asking
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L21[01:07:23] <Kodos> Looks like yellow might not even be used
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L24[01:42:51] <Mimiru> Kodos, yeah currently nothing causes yellow
L25[01:46:16] <SoraFirestorm> good to know
L26[01:46:27] <SoraFirestorm> Why is it there in the first place then? ;P
L27[01:46:33] <SoraFirestorm> s/;P/:P/
L28[01:46:33] <Kibibyte> <SoraFirestorm> Why is it there in the first place then? :P
L29[01:46:44] <Mimiru> I had planed to use it, but it didn't work out
L30[01:46:57] <SoraFirestorm> what was it supposed to do?
L31[01:47:01] <Mimiru> it was going to go yellow on swipe, then green or red depending on the result
L32[01:47:10] <SoraFirestorm> aaaah
L33[01:47:41] <Mimiru> I left everything there so I could work on it later
L34[01:47:47] <Mimiru> and now I know how to do render overlays
L35[01:47:57] <SoraFirestorm> neat
L36[01:48:04] <Mimiru> which means I can drop the texture switching, and just do an overlay
L37[01:48:28] <Mimiru> So it'll actually look like a light (just without emitting any light)
L38[01:49:55] <SoraFirestorm> wish I could mod
L39[01:50:37] <SoraFirestorm> Tried it... twice? Was hella complicated. :(
L40[01:50:43] <SoraFirestorm> and that's from someone who likes C
L41[01:51:00] <Mimiru> Forge makes things harder then they need to be
L42[01:55:49] <SoraFirestorm> I couldn't figure out how get crafting to work
L43[01:55:57] <SoraFirestorm> The reason was something like
L44[01:56:13] <SoraFirestorm> "Minecraft uses only a single class instance"
L45[01:56:15] <SoraFirestorm> or something like that
L46[01:56:20] <SoraFirestorm> idk the exact terminology
L47[01:56:27] <SoraFirestorm> someone had to tell me that
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L52[02:16:43] <mrammy> i need to automate grog
L53[02:16:58] <SoraFirestorm> you doing the hard-mode recipes?
L54[02:17:08] <SoraFirestorm> Or just want nanobots?
L55[02:17:18] <mrammy> hard-mode all the way
L56[02:17:36] <SoraFirestorm> fair enough
L57[02:17:50] <mrammy> whats really holding me up is a decent speed mushroom farm
L58[02:18:07] <mrammy> i have a largish stockpile of the red ones but it specifically requires brown ones
L59[02:19:48] <Vexatos> hard mode is the best mode
L60[02:19:51] <Vexatos> I LOVE it
L61[02:19:59] <Vexatos> the recipes actually make sense .-.
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L63[02:20:58] <Vexatos> mrammy, if you have Forestry and Computronics installed, you can get grog from bees
L64[02:21:01] <Vexatos> no need for mushrooms :3
L65[02:21:08] <mrammy> i do
L66[02:21:10] <mrammy> ooh
L67[02:21:27] <mrammy> hey everyone guess who is awesome, vexatos is awesome
L68[02:21:35] <SoraFirestorm> :D
L69[02:22:11] <Vexatos> mrammy, do you have Gendustry installed .-.
L70[02:22:17] <Vexatos> If you do, I shouldn't have told you :/
L71[02:22:27] <mrammy> why not
L72[02:22:30] <Vexatos> Please don't use it <_>
L73[02:22:30] <mrammy> bees are fun
L74[02:22:34] <Vexatos> Yes they are
L75[02:22:37] <Vexatos> but Gendustry is not
L76[02:23:02] <mrammy> the grind makes it fun
L77[02:23:34] <Vexatos> I like bee breeding.... But people nowadays mostly use Gendustry to skip all the breeding involved
L78[02:23:38] <Vexatos> And I hate that
L79[02:24:02] <SnowDapples> it's because you can't have EXPLodiNG BEES
L80[02:24:03] <mrammy> its honestly not that difficult
L81[02:24:07] <Vexatos> SnowDapples, you can
L82[02:24:12] <SnowDapples> Sweet!
L83[02:24:13] <Vexatos> Fiendish bees explode
L84[02:24:14] <Vexatos> pretty sure
L85[02:24:17] <Vexatos> no wait
L86[02:24:19] <Vexatos> Austere
L87[02:24:20] <Vexatos> those explode
L88[02:24:26] <Vexatos> mrammy, I know, right?
L89[02:24:32] <SnowDapples> I need those :D
L90[02:24:39] <Vexatos> how do you do breeding, mrammy
L91[02:24:43] <mrammy> you can make a computer program to do it for you with the analyzer
L92[02:24:43] <Vexatos> completely manually?
L93[02:24:51] <Vexatos> oh yea, I did that once
L94[02:25:09] <Vexatos> a robot with inv controller
L95[02:25:19] <Vexatos> back when there was no transposer
L96[02:25:19] <mrammy> depends on the mods in the pack
L97[02:26:19] <Vexatos> Do you have NEI addons or Gendustry installed?
L98[02:26:57] <mrammy> i think i have nei addons
L99[02:26:59] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L100[02:27:11] <Vexatos> does NEI show you how you can breed the grog bees then?
L101[02:27:14] <mrammy> i mightve just missed it
L102[02:27:16] <mrammy> it does
L103[02:27:20] <Vexatos> It shouldn't unless you messed with the configs
L104[02:27:22] <Vexatos> crap
L105[02:27:39] <mrammy> oh wait no
L106[02:27:44] <mrammy> i just shows the combs
L107[02:27:48] <Vexatos> yay
L108[02:27:51] <Vexatos> nice
L109[02:27:51] <Vexatos> ok
L110[02:27:52] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L111[02:27:52] <Vexatos> yea
L112[02:27:53] <Vexatos> uuuh
L113[02:27:55] <Vexatos> good
L114[02:27:56] <Vexatos> very good
L115[02:27:58] <Vexatos> I approve
L116[02:27:59] <Vexatos> yes
L117[02:28:00] <Vexatos> good
L118[02:28:02] <Vexatos> gewd
L119[02:28:04] <SoraFirestorm> you take your hardcore game hardcore serious
L120[02:28:18] <SoraFirestorm> not the playstyle for me
L121[02:28:19] <Turtle> Oh look. VALVe pushed ´hl3.txt´ to the source 2 version of dota.
L122[02:28:21] <Vexatos> SoraFirestorm, I requested an API in Gendustry to blacklist certain breeds in the Mutatron
L123[02:28:23] <Vexatos> :3
L124[02:28:29] <Turtle> This can´t possibly end we- HYPE TRAIN
L125[02:28:31] <SoraFirestorm> but I can appreciate your dedication
L126[02:28:44] <mrammy> i approve of vexatos request
L127[02:28:51] <Vexatos> mrammy, well, there is only one way to find out how to breed them
L128[02:28:55] <Vexatos> The Escritoire
L129[02:29:01] <mrammy> ooh fun
L130[02:29:17] <Vexatos> If you put a bee in there and win the game, you get a random mutation this particular bee can undergo+
L131[02:29:27] <Vexatos> so try several species
L132[02:29:36] <Vexatos> maybe you'll find the right be some day
L133[02:29:39] <SoraFirestorm> I never got the whole bee thing
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L136[02:29:50] <Vexatos> Because the Escritoire can even show you secret and hidden species
L137[02:29:52] <Vexatos> like this one
L138[02:29:57] <mrammy> some day?
L139[02:29:57] <Vexatos> that's actually what it's made for
L140[02:30:03] <Vexatos> it won't take that long, really
L141[02:30:08] <Vexatos> it's rather obvious
L142[02:30:13] <Vexatos> which species you need to breed
L143[02:30:20] <Vexatos> but the Mutation note is quite important
L144[02:30:24] <Vexatos> as it tells you how to breed them
L145[02:30:33] <Vexatos> the mutation requires quite a few conditions to be met
L146[02:30:37] <Vexatos> and the note will tell you
L147[02:32:40] <SoraFirestorm> ugh
L148[02:32:48] <SoraFirestorm> nowhere close to enough EMC
L149[02:34:00] <Vexatos> mrammy, it's meant to be kind of a fun challenge. That one bee that's hard to find
L150[02:34:12] <Vexatos> it's obviously not worth it and making a mushroom farm is waaay faster
L151[02:34:21] <mrammy> well this is much more fun then making a mushroom farm
L152[02:34:21] <Vexatos> But it's a lot of fun, at least for me :P
L153[02:34:34] <Vexatos> I never get tired of the Escritoire game
L154[02:34:39] <Vexatos> it's super fun
L155[02:34:53] <mrammy> whats the best seed oil thing again
L156[02:34:56] <mrammy> almonds?
L157[02:34:59] <Vexatos> chestnuts
L158[02:35:04] <Vexatos> #2 is walnuts
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L160[02:35:15] <mrammy> ah it was walnuts
L161[02:35:16] <Vexatos> #1 for fruit juice is papaya, #2 is date
L162[02:35:36] <Vexatos> You get chestnuts from walnuts
L163[02:35:43] <Vexatos> so it's basically a straight upgrade
L164[02:35:58] <Vexatos> but you also get date from papaya, so that's a... sidegrade
L165[02:35:59] <SoraFirestorm> %calc 16 * 32
L166[02:36:00] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm: 512
L167[02:36:04] <Vexatos> as papaya grows like cocoa beans
L168[02:36:09] <Vexatos> and date like walnuts
L169[02:36:20] <SoraFirestorm> damn :/
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L171[02:39:59] <SoraFirestorm> %calc 32 * 128
L172[02:39:59] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm: 4,096
L173[02:41:07] <SoraFirestorm> %calc 16 * 16
L174[02:41:08] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm: 256
L175[02:41:11] <SoraFirestorm> bleh
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L185[03:11:51] <mrammy> alright is there a mod that can adjust the oredictionary order
L186[03:11:59] <mrammy> like which item comes first
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L188[03:17:16] <SoraFirestorm> not that I'm aware of
L189[03:17:22] <SoraFirestorm> why would you want to change the order?
L190[03:17:33] <mrammy> iron nuggets are being derpy with my ae setup
L191[03:17:51] <mrammy> they come out as garden stuff even though the crafting recipe says tinkers iron nuggets
L192[03:19:31] <SoraFirestorm> garden stuff? wth?
L193[03:21:34] <mrammy> wow that is super weird
L194[03:21:45] <mrammy> i just rewrote the pattern and it works fine
L195[03:21:56] <SoraFirestorm> whatever
L196[03:22:01] <SoraFirestorm> take what you can get, right? :P
L197[03:22:05] <mrammy> yep
L198[03:23:41] <SoraFirestorm> finally out of tanks
L199[03:23:48] <SoraFirestorm> s/tanks/extra tanks/
L200[03:23:48] <Kibibyte> <SoraFirestorm> finally out of extra tanks
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L203[03:39:37] <Sangar> o/
L204[03:39:41] <SoraFirestorm> hai Sangar
L205[03:42:54] <Vexatos> o\ snagar
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L210[03:54:43] <dangranos> mpd is awesome
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L212[03:55:02] <dangranos> too bad there is no mpd server with flac support for adnroid
L213[03:55:06] <dangranos> ...yes?
L214[03:55:08] <dangranos> *yet?
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L216[04:00:12] <mrammy> Mimiru, Could you oredict your openfm recipes for planks please?
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L221[04:06:24] <SoraFirestorm> that could be minetweaked
L222[04:06:27] <SoraFirestorm> but yeah
L223[04:06:29] <SoraFirestorm> would be nice
L224[04:08:21] <mrammy> admittedly a good use of the oak wood i had
L225[04:08:29] <mrammy> too lazy to minetweak atm
L226[04:08:33] <Sandra> what's openfm?
L227[04:08:42] <mrammy> http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/openfm
L228[04:08:42] <SoraFirestorm> I'm really weird and don't like anything but oak
L229[04:08:58] <SoraFirestorm> Sandra: Internet radio with OC controls
L230[04:09:10] <SoraFirestorm> (OC controls are optional, so I hear)
L231[04:09:27] <Sandra> also for adjusting the oredict order you could remove all things in the oredict and then add them in the order you want.
L232[04:09:48] <Sandra> that looks cool.
L233[04:09:58] <SoraFirestorm> sure does
L234[04:10:11] <Sandra> not /overly/ useful but cool.
L235[04:10:23] <SoraFirestorm> OpenBlocks used to do that
L236[04:10:30] <SoraFirestorm> I miss the hell out of that, actually
L237[04:10:31] <Sandra> mmm.
L238[04:10:37] <Sandra> doesn't it anymore?
L239[04:10:39] <SoraFirestorm> no
L240[04:10:42] <SoraFirestorm> they took it out
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L242[04:13:55] <SoraFirestorm> I didn't really like how it worked anyways
L243[04:14:04] <SoraFirestorm> You had to find radio tuning crystals
L244[04:14:14] <SoraFirestorm> and you couldn't edit them :(
L245[04:14:31] <SoraFirestorm> (well, not without an NBT editor... did that once)
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L247[04:19:36] <Lizzy> meep
L248[04:21:06] <SoraFirestorm> say,
L249[04:21:18] <SoraFirestorm> anybody know off-hand if there is a Python architecture?
L250[04:21:26] <Lizzy> i think there was one in the works
L251[04:21:45] <Lizzy> not sure of it's status though
L252[04:21:45] <SoraFirestorm> I've actually grown kinda fond of Python
L253[04:21:46] <nxsupert> o/
L254[04:22:51] <nxsupert> There is a program vat converts Python to C I think.
L255[04:23:27] <nxsupert> s/vat/that
L256[04:23:27] <Kibibyte> <nxsupert> There is a program that converts Python to C I think.
L257[04:24:06] <DeanIsaKitty> SoraFirestorm: There's https://github.com/EcmaXp/mpoc But I'm pretty sure it won't even compile for you :P
L258[04:24:17] <SoraFirestorm> :P
L259[04:26:28] <Lizzy> woo
L260[04:26:33] <Lizzy> laptop is nearly here
L261[04:26:36] <SoraFirestorm> woo
L262[04:26:38] <nxsupert> ?
L263[04:26:39] <SoraFirestorm> what kind?
L264[04:26:45] <Lizzy> MSI
L265[04:26:58] <SoraFirestorm> one of the gaming ones?
L266[04:27:01] <Lizzy> s/950m/950m
L267[04:27:02] <SoraFirestorm> Or... ?
L268[04:27:13] <Lizzy> damn, hold on will get link
L269[04:32:08] <Sandra> there's a python architecture.
L270[04:33:25] <nxsupert> To spend 4 quid on garage band or not to spend 4 quid on garage band.....
L271[04:34:09] <Lizzy> SoraFirestorm,
L272[04:34:09] <Lizzy> <SoraFirestorm> woo
L273[04:34:14] <Lizzy> ffs hexchat
L274[04:34:20] <SoraFirestorm> lul
L275[04:34:35] <Lizzy> http://www.scan.co.uk/products/156-msi-px60-2qd-laptop-intel-core-i5-4210h-27ghz-8gb-ddr3l-ram1tb-hdd-2gb-nvidia-geforce-gtx-950m
L276[04:34:50] <SoraFirestorm> lol the url shows me most of what I want to know
L277[04:35:07] <SoraFirestorm> Looks good
L278[04:35:07] <Lizzy> lol
L279[04:35:12] <SoraFirestorm> Would opt for an i7 myself
L280[04:35:23] <SoraFirestorm> but I'm expensive that way :P
L281[04:35:39] <nxsupert> Windows 8.1 ?
L282[04:35:43] <Kodos> uwot
L283[04:35:45] <Lizzy> the one i wanted originally had an i7 but it was out of stock and EoL
L284[04:35:52] <SoraFirestorm> aw :(
L285[04:35:52] <nxsupert> Really?
L286[04:36:00] <Lizzy> nxsupert, ?
L287[04:36:15] <nxsupert> I'm assuming your going to slap linux on there at some point.
L288[04:36:26] <Lizzy> most probably
L289[04:37:02] <SoraFirestorm> It'll be a little bit before I can upgrad
L290[04:37:05] <Lizzy> wow, even it's box is awesome
L291[04:37:08] <SoraFirestorm> s/upgrad/upgrade/
L292[04:37:08] <Kibibyte> <SoraFirestorm> It'll be a little bit before I can upgrade
L293[04:37:22] <SoraFirestorm> but that's because I'm really smart (/s) and pick expensive kit
L294[04:37:56] <nxsupert> I want to get a faster computer. But I also want to stick to OS X :(
L295[04:38:03] <SoraFirestorm> I want my next laptop to do the 'flip backwards into a tablet' thing
L296[04:38:24] <SoraFirestorm> but the ones that do that and have actually good components run $1k
L297[04:38:33] <nxsupert> Damn you apple. Why can't you just bring out a laptop with any actual graphics card?!
L298[04:38:52] <SoraFirestorm> why did you buy Apple in the first place?
L299[04:39:21] <SoraFirestorm> those stupid aluminum paper weights have always been over-priced and under-powered
L300[04:39:22] <nxsupert> Because OS X is so much easier to use.
L301[04:40:20] <SoraFirestorm> Literally the only good thing I can say about OSX is 'it's a Unix'
L302[04:40:30] <nxsupert> That and X-Code is by far the best IDE out there.
L303[04:40:52] <SoraFirestorm> maybe that's why Apple doesn't like people running OSX on things that aren't Macs
L304[04:41:04] <SoraFirestorm> It's terrible
L305[04:41:15] <SoraFirestorm> that's the only reason Apple would be so restrictive
L306[04:42:15] <nxsupert> Well.
L307[04:42:43] <nxsupert> It allows them to optimise for a very specific set of hardware.
L308[04:43:08] <SoraFirestorm> that honestly sounds like an excuse
L309[04:43:15] <DeanIsaKitty> It is really
L310[04:43:17] <nxsupert> Plus. The tools on OS X pretty much beat out everything else.
L311[04:43:19] <SoraFirestorm> "we're too lazy to write drivers for anything else"
L312[04:43:21] <DeanIsaKitty> AHAHAHA NO.
L313[04:43:37] <nxsupert> No.
L314[04:43:40] <SoraFirestorm> The only tools that are any good on OSX are the standard Unix tools
L315[04:43:55] <DeanIsaKitty> The only thing Mac really excells at is graphics and thats really not because of the Software :)
L316[04:44:12] <nxsupert> Even Linus said that linux has become too bloated because of the number of drivers.
L317[04:44:30] <DeanIsaKitty> And Mac OS is *any* better? Do you really think that?
L318[04:44:32] <SoraFirestorm> first - sauce
L319[04:44:39] <SoraFirestorm> second - that doesn't /really/ matter
L320[04:44:41] <Kodos> So, I started watching 2001: A Space Odyssey
L321[04:44:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Because if so, you have no idea.
L322[04:44:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: :D
L323[04:45:11] <Kodos> I'm about a half hour in, and what the fuck is up with the monkey scene
L324[04:45:21] <SoraFirestorm> because you don't end up using most drivers on a particular system
L325[04:45:21] <nxsupert> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/22/linus_torvalds_linux_bloated_huge/
L326[04:45:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: What the fuck is with that whole movie?
L327[04:45:31] <Kodos> Dunno, I'll tell you in about 2 hours
L328[04:45:31] <SoraFirestorm> so there is no negative about it
L329[04:45:37] <SoraFirestorm> honestly
L330[04:45:46] <SoraFirestorm> I bet that since the removal of the 386 code tree
L331[04:46:00] <nxsupert> Anyway. I can safely say that X-Code is superior to pretty much any other IDE.
L332[04:46:01] <SoraFirestorm> There are now drivers that couldn't possibly work on a kernel build now
L333[04:47:00] <DeanIsaKitty> nxsupert: And I can safely say that that is an absolutely subjective opinion and not prooveable.
L334[04:47:15] <nxsupert> Probably true.
L335[04:47:16] <SoraFirestorm> I don't get the whole IDE thing anyhow
L336[04:47:24] <SoraFirestorm> I don't understand why people like them
L337[04:47:25] <nxsupert> But thats why I have a MacBook.
L338[04:47:33] <SoraFirestorm> Then again
L339[04:47:37] <DeanIsaKitty> Thats as flimsy an reason as any.
L340[04:47:43] <nxsupert> It just works so much better for me.
L341[04:47:54] <SoraFirestorm> I align fairly closely with the original Unix tradition
L342[04:47:59] <SoraFirestorm> I'm also an Emacs guy
L343[04:48:13] <SoraFirestorm> which is everything an IDE wishes it was :P
L344[04:48:14] <DeanIsaKitty> How many other IDEs and for what is the better question. Also how much did you actually try to learn them
L345[04:48:14] <SoraFirestorm> and more on top
L346[04:48:49] <nxsupert> That. And to be honest I think Apple is the only company that produces tech and actually cares about privacy.
L347[04:48:55] <DeanIsaKitty> SoraFirestorm: Emacs is an Operating system that happens to be able to edit text. Not really Unix tradition, is it?
L348[04:49:01] <nxsupert> Only big company.
L349[04:49:11] <SoraFirestorm> I said 'fairly closely' :P
L350[04:49:12] <SoraFirestorm> that
L351[04:49:20] <SoraFirestorm> and there's an interesting counter point
L352[04:49:25] <DeanIsaKitty> nxsupert: I'm gonna just say the obvious: You are blinded af by apple fanboyery.
L353[04:49:34] <SoraFirestorm> Lemme see if I can pull it up
L354[04:50:06] <nxsupert> You say that. But I also have a Linux box right next to me running a physics simulation.
L355[04:50:10] <Vexatos> well
L356[04:50:16] <Vexatos> "Big Company producing OSes"
L357[04:50:18] <Vexatos> Options
L358[04:50:20] <Vexatos> windows
L359[04:50:24] <Vexatos> a.k.a. Microsoft
L360[04:50:25] <Vexatos> and Mac
L361[04:50:27] <Vexatos> a.k.a. Apple
L362[04:50:28] <Vexatos> soooo
L363[04:50:29] <SoraFirestorm> found it
L364[04:50:32] <nxsupert> Google?
L365[04:50:35] <Vexatos> " only big company that produces tech and actually cares about privacy."
L366[04:50:37] <nxsupert> Sort of.
L367[04:50:43] <Vexatos> may actually be true
L368[04:50:51] <Vexatos> because there are only two
L369[04:50:55] <SoraFirestorm> DeanIsaKitty: http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/ch13s03.html
L370[04:50:56] <Vexatos> (PC OSes here)
L371[04:51:00] <SoraFirestorm> bottom most section
L372[04:51:01] <Vexatos> (not talking about Android)
L373[04:51:13] <nxsupert> Chromebooks?
L374[04:51:19] <Kodos> Oh, so THAT'S why Elite games play the Blue Danube when you're docking
L375[04:51:22] <Kodos> autodocking, that is
L376[04:51:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Vexatos: I really don't think Apple cares about privacy any more than MS does.
L377[04:51:35] <SoraFirestorm> I'm going out on a limb and gunna say
L378[04:51:42] <nxsupert> Anyway.
L379[04:51:42] <SoraFirestorm> I think a Chromebook is more of an appliance
L380[04:52:06] <Vexatos> DeanIsaKitty, well, since win10 the Mac TOS actually are more restrictive in terms of data they collect than the win10 ones
L381[04:52:07] <nxsupert> Well it was made for people who JUST want to edit text documents and stuff like that/
L382[04:52:08] <SoraFirestorm> It certainly isn't a traditional mutlitasking computer, not until you make it so
L383[04:52:33] <Vexatos> that's already a huge part of the "Privacy debate"
L384[04:52:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Is Win10 already fully released?
L385[04:52:59] <SoraFirestorm> yes
L386[04:53:03] <SoraFirestorm> I have it on this machine
L387[04:53:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh wow, I've been out of the loop for a while then
L388[04:53:17] <SoraFirestorm> the free upgrade thing is still in effect too
L389[04:53:23] <Vexatos> let's see.... my text editors are... edit, vi, vim, atom, nano, notepad++ (and intellIJ)
L390[04:53:24] <SoraFirestorm> that's why it's 10 and not 8
L391[04:53:26] <Vexatos> I think that's enough
L392[04:53:28] <Vexatos> isn't it
L393[04:53:34] <nxsupert> Oh god. Some of my friends have screwed up their computer by updating to windows 10 the moment it came out.
L394[04:53:51] <SoraFirestorm> meh
L395[04:53:59] <SoraFirestorm> I had to do a fresh install of 8 for reasons
L396[04:54:03] <Vexatos> Linux Mint - where you get 4 text editors pre-installed
L397[04:54:09] <SoraFirestorm> so there was nothing to break :P
L398[04:54:13] <Vexatos> including GUI versions of those (gedit, gvim etc)
L399[04:54:18] <nxsupert> You can never have too many text editors :P
L400[04:54:28] <SoraFirestorm> there's a Linux program called 'edit'?
L401[04:54:30] <SoraFirestorm> for reals?
L402[04:54:35] <Vexatos> of course
L403[04:54:40] <Vexatos> edit myfile.txt
L404[04:55:14] <nxsupert> Tbh the real reason I got a mac book in the first place was so I could compile for all 3 operating systems and all phones.
L405[04:55:49] <SoraFirestorm> Honestly
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L407[04:56:04] <Vexatos> I use IDEA for Java coding and Atom or NP++ for Lua :P
L408[04:56:05] <SoraFirestorm> the fact that the only platform that can build for iOS is OSX is braindead
L409[04:56:07] <SoraFirestorm> at *best*
L410[04:56:08] <Vexatos> don't need anything else
L411[04:56:22] <SoraFirestorm> That is such a turn off for me
L412[04:56:25] <Vexatos> and gedit for general text editing
L413[04:56:26] <SoraFirestorm> should be for anyone else
L414[04:56:27] <Vexatos> <_>
L415[04:56:57] <nxsupert> Well. It still runs much faster than windows and is so much easier to use than Linux.
L416[04:56:58] <SoraFirestorm> Vexatos: what package provides 'edit'?
L417[04:57:01] <SoraFirestorm> for you?
L418[04:57:13] <Vexatos> how do I find out .-.
L419[04:57:21] <SoraFirestorm> uh, distro?
L420[04:57:25] <Vexatos> Linux Mint .-.
L421[04:57:29] <SoraFirestorm> lemme check then
L422[04:57:34] <Vexatos> package system is apt
L423[04:58:13] <SoraFirestorm> try "dpkg -S `which edit`
L424[04:58:15] <SoraFirestorm> "
L425[04:58:28] <DeanIsaKitty> SoraFirestorm: Damn, you were faster :D
L426[04:58:30] <SoraFirestorm> :D
L427[04:58:42] <SoraFirestorm> had to look it up even haha
L428[04:59:01] <SoraFirestorm> I know how to do it on RPM systems
L429[04:59:16] <SoraFirestorm> not Debian-type off hand, though
L430[04:59:42] <Vexatos> mime-support
L431[04:59:49] <SoraFirestorm> waaaat
L432[04:59:50] <SoraFirestorm> that
L433[04:59:53] <SoraFirestorm> sounds
L434[04:59:56] <SoraFirestorm> wtf
L435[05:00:07] <DeanIsaKitty> SoraFirestorm: Also your link was a nice read, but the author lost its credibility by smashing vi and vim together as if they are the same program. They are really not and most of the arguments do not really work on both seperately.
L436[05:00:08] <Vexatos> apparently edit is written in perl, heh
L437[05:00:44] <SoraFirestorm> for all intents and purposes
L438[05:00:45] <SoraFirestorm> they are
L439[05:00:48] <DeanIsaKitty> No.
L440[05:00:55] <SoraFirestorm> I mean
L441[05:01:02] <SoraFirestorm> yeah, they're different
L442[05:01:04] <SoraFirestorm> but
L443[05:01:05] <DeanIsaKitty> vi is 290KB, vim is 2.9 MB. They are not. Not. at. all.
L444[05:01:07] <SoraFirestorm> not that different
L445[05:01:30] <SoraFirestorm> DeanIsaKitty: do realize, that at least on RPM systems, vi is a symlink to vim
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L447[05:01:33] <DeanIsaKitty> One has a scripting language one has not. And that "vim" has not a scripting language is an argument for him.
L448[05:02:09] <DeanIsaKitty> SoraFirestorm: That may be true, but they are not the same and basic research would have given him that information too.
L449[05:02:22] <SoraFirestorm> I think the author knows that
L450[05:02:28] <SoraFirestorm> Do you know who the author is?
L451[05:03:30] <DeanIsaKitty> No, not that I give a fuck
L452[05:03:40] <SoraFirestorm> :P
L453[05:03:52] <DeanIsaKitty> Its bad research, no matter who did it.
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L456[05:04:48] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L457[05:04:57] <SoraFirestorm> OpenBlocks tanks are rendering derpy
L458[05:06:34] <Kodos> Bah, this movie's gonna bore me to death, or sleep
L459[05:06:39] <Kodos> back to my TV show
L460[05:08:52] <SoraFirestorm> ah
L461[05:08:54] <SoraFirestorm> ok
L462[05:08:59] <SoraFirestorm> TIL
L463[05:09:05] <SoraFirestorm> TE power networks are weird
L464[05:10:41] <Lizzy> ewwww this laptop has norton preinstalled
L465[05:10:46] <Lizzy> will be removing that
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L467[05:11:15] <SoraFirestorm> that was nice about having to redo Win8 from scratch
L468[05:11:16] <SoraFirestorm> no crap
L469[05:11:28] <SoraFirestorm> why the hell does Microsoft allow that shit anyways?
L470[05:13:26] <SoraFirestorm> just need one more diamond gear
L471[05:13:30] <SoraFirestorm> then I can make the quarry
L472[05:22:58] <SoraFirestorm> %calc 66 * 256
L473[05:22:59] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm: 16,896
L474[05:28:30] * vifino flops on Lizzy
L475[05:28:36] * Lizzy pets vifino
L476[05:29:04] * vifino purrs
L477[05:29:09] <SoraFirestorm> bingo
L478[05:29:10] <SoraFirestorm> quarry
L479[05:29:20] <SoraFirestorm> that only took forever :P
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L485[06:32:19] <dangranos> what did?
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L487[06:49:07] <SoraFirestorm> getting my quarry
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L489[06:50:43] <SoraFire`> *ahem*
L490[06:50:48] <SoraFire`> waaait
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L493[06:51:29] <SoraFirestorm> There we go
L494[06:51:33] <SoraFirestorm> Minecraft is slow
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L503[07:56:46] <Kodos> I want an artificial interactive consciousness =(
L504[07:59:33] <SnowDapples> I want Ponies
L505[07:59:35] <SnowDapples> \o/
L506[08:04:52] <nxsupert> p/
L507[08:04:59] <nxsupert> s/p/o
L508[08:04:59] <Kibibyte> <nxsupert> o/
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L511[08:17:48] <shadowkin0721> Why are TE power networks weird?
L512[08:18:15] <shadowkin0721> Or Sora left and I didn't realize I was scrolled up >..
L513[08:18:16] <shadowkin0721> >..
L514[08:18:33] <shadowkin0721> I give up. I'm going back to my coffee now.
L515[08:19:20] <Turtle> lol
L516[08:25:36] <shadowkin0721> How's the porting project going Turtle?
L517[08:26:19] <Turtle> pretty good
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L523[09:24:09] <scj643> I'm up
L524[09:24:26] <Lizzy> uhoh
L525[09:32:07] <Mimiru> uuuuugh
L526[09:32:15] * Mimiru Mega yawn
L527[09:32:48] * Lizzy asks Mimiru if she would like a cup of Tea, Coffee or Hot Chocolate
L528[09:33:37] <Mimiru> I'll take a jug of Coffee, please.
L529[09:33:51] * Lizzy brews up a jug of coffee and hands it to Mimiru
L530[09:33:59] <Mimiru> \o/ Thanky
L531[09:35:29] * Lizzy is testing out her new laptop
L532[09:35:50] <Mimiru> I wish any of the laptops I owned worked... ¬_¬
L533[09:42:17] <Mimiru> gotta love restarting a browser, and 5 youtube videos start at once.
L534[09:42:44] <Lizzy> ha
L535[09:43:14] <Lizzy> I may have put a few too many settings up when starting this SE world
L536[09:43:52] <Mimiru> heh
L537[09:44:32] <Lizzy> i think it's still generating asteroids
L538[09:45:54] <Lizzy> i /think/ Orlin can keep up with the rendering, i think it's the generation of the asteroids which is taking time
L539[09:46:39] <scj643> iTunes is a pain
L540[09:46:51] <scj643> It is syncing and mixing up my album arts
L541[09:47:15] <Lizzy> my iPod does that itself (my ipod is a 4th generation nano
L542[09:47:22] <scj643> Wow
L543[09:48:16] <Lizzy> Mimiru, 44 FPS at 1080p with all the rendering settings maxed on Space Engineers on a 950m
L544[09:48:39] <scj643> I saw that game at Walmart
L545[09:49:30] <scj643> Damn this is bad
L546[09:50:57] <Lizzy> i need to get the Metro for Steam skin on my laptop
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L550[09:59:53] <Turtle> blergh, time to finish the fs api I guess.
L551[10:19:31] <Mimiru> Lizzy, nice
L552[10:21:45] <scj643> Switching to Google play music for my player
L553[10:22:09] <scj643> Can put 50k songs on it
L554[10:22:22] <scj643> All for free
L555[10:22:35] * Lizzy uses Google Play for her music
L556[10:25:32] <scj643> Nice
L557[10:25:52] <scj643> Laptops taking its sweet time to reboot
L558[10:26:59] <Lizzy> mine reboots pretty fast, considering it has a mechanical hdd in it
L559[10:27:45] <Lizzy> when the warranty runs out i'll add a ssd using the M.2 interface
L560[10:28:39] <scj643> Nice
L561[10:30:10] <Lizzy> gonna have to get used to the fact that there's not seperate buttons on the mouse pad
L562[10:30:39] <scj643> Lol
L563[10:30:57] <ds84182> I hate those Lenovo laptops that make the entire mousepad the left click and right click buttons
L564[10:31:54] <scj643> Apple does it too
L565[10:32:04] <ds84182> Eww
L566[10:32:10] <Lizzy> well
L567[10:32:34] <Lizzy> apple's macbook trackpads have the entire surface as a button
L568[10:32:56] <Lizzy> which is weird to get used to because (at least the ones i used) they don't have tap to click
L569[10:34:19] <ds84182> It's also one of those mousepads with the bumps all over it
L570[10:34:26] <ds84182> I can't use those
L571[10:34:30] <ds84182> I go mentally insane
L572[10:35:12] <ds84182> And some laptops have both the push the mousepad down to click thing and mouse buttons ABOVE the mousepad
L573[10:35:26] <ds84182> And the nub in the middle of the keyboard
L574[10:36:45] <scj643> That's a pointing nub
L575[10:37:04] <Lizzy> my work laptop lost the little cap on that nub
L576[10:38:19] <shadowkin0721> Hey ds84182, can I PM you about a couple of cclights questions?
L577[10:41:05] <scj643> Adding music to google play is a pain you never know if it's really adding it
L578[10:43:06] <ds84182> shadowkin0721: erm, sure
L579[10:43:46] <scj643> I want to hear them
L580[10:43:55] <shadowkin0721> No, super seekrit.
L581[10:44:27] <scj643> Ahhhh
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L586[11:14:04] <Turtle> \o/ moving files across filesystems works properly now
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L589[11:50:22] <Turtle> ´component.invoke(adress2, "exists", path2:sub(1,path2:len()-cloneOS.fs.getName(path2):len()))´ I regret noooothiiiiing
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L592[11:57:08] <gamax92> Turtle: what'cha making?
L593[11:57:36] <Turtle> CC ´emulator´ OS, something like what you´re doing except way more shitty under the hood :P
L594[11:57:49] <Skye> Well
L595[11:57:51] <Turtle> (That particular piece of code checks if the location a file is to be copied to is valid)
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L597[11:58:00] <gamax92> there was a reason I used OpenOS routines :P
L598[11:58:00] <Skye> CC is going to Lua 5.2
L599[11:58:05] <gamax92> because they were all there.
L600[11:58:25] <gamax92> CC is currently in a bad Lua 5.2 wrapper over Lua 5.1 mode
L601[11:58:34] <Turtle> gamax92, I´m mostly doing this for fun, otherwise I would probably use your code :p
L602[11:58:46] <Turtle> and yeah, CC is... weird. but it shouldn´t be terribly hard to replicate.
L603[11:58:53] <Lizzy> i come back to irc and the majority of the messages in this window is Skye detaching and attaching
L604[11:58:59] <gamax92> XD
L605[11:59:14] <Skye> Blame my Internet
L606[11:59:30] <Skye> I'm on a phone where the signal goes on and off
L607[11:59:32] <Skye> Fun
L608[11:59:34] <Skye> Not
L609[11:59:48] <gamax92> Freshly installed windows, trying to figure out why the fonts are brown and light
L610[11:59:51] <gamax92> oh, windows cleartype
L611[12:00:05] <Lizzy> which is why i'm not using the metro appi would normally use for irc
L612[12:00:35] <Skye> Lizzy: also there's a power cut
L613[12:01:30] <Lizzy> still doesn't change the fact i get a toast (win 8 notification) alert every time you attach and detach from any of your networks
L614[12:01:57] <Mimiru> Theres a reason I disabled the connect notifications.. lol
L615[12:02:14] <Mimiru> I don't remember who it was but someone spammed the hell out of me one day
L616[12:02:14] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L617[12:02:44] <Skye> I'm sorry... I can't help it...
L618[12:02:53] <Skye> I'll get told off whatever I do.
L619[12:02:56] <Lizzy> Mimiru, they're useful in some cases, if they had what network the user connected too as well it would be much better
L620[12:03:25] <Mimiru> yeah
L621[12:05:10] * Skye sighs
L622[12:09:43] <Lizzy> also Mimiru, remember earlier i was getting good fps in SE for the settings at which i had cranked it to?
L623[12:09:52] <Mimiru> yeah
L624[12:10:10] <Lizzy> not getting above 50 that often in modded mc
L625[12:10:29] <Mimiru> Sounds about right
L626[12:11:08] <Lizzy> I might play Tomb Raider
L627[12:11:24] <scj643> That is a benchmark
L628[12:11:34] <Lizzy> ?
L629[12:11:35] <scj643> Tomb raider is a great game
L630[12:11:43] <scj643> Tomb raider the new one
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L635[12:53:39] <Murlocking> Hello, I'm trying to run this program I made for my robot and I'm getting an error. Here's the program pastebin.. http://pastebin.ca/3189620
L636[12:54:32] <Murlocking> getting farm.lua:1: unexpected symbol near ':' as an error message
L637[12:54:34] <Inari> i'm kinda of usre you use "=" not ":"
L638[12:54:56] <Murlocking> Oh God...
L639[12:55:08] <Murlocking> What an idiot I am.. thanks!
L640[12:57:08] <Turtle> yeah, for future reference, ´=´ for assingment, ´==´ for comparison
L641[12:58:27] <Inari> lol
L642[12:58:28] <Murlocking> Okay that worked as you would expected! But my program is not doing what I want it to do.
L643[12:58:56] <Inari> robots have a lightcolor?
L644[12:59:00] <Murlocking> I'm trying to make the robot hold the right-click as it using a Watering Can to grow my plant.
L645[12:59:01] <Turtle> yeah
L646[12:59:07] <Inari> ;o
L647[12:59:18] <Turtle> Murlocking, for one, I´m pretty sure wateringcans are not supposed to work in robots/etc
L648[12:59:27] <Murlocking> But it just spawn the right-click instead of holding down the right-click
L649[12:59:32] <Turtle> try a different item with the same code.
L650[12:59:54] <Murlocking> Turtle, it works. But when it spawn the right-click it also collect the plants
L651[13:00:04] <Murlocking> spam sorry * not spawn
L652[13:01:33] <Inari> im not sure you can make them holdit
L653[13:01:48] <Murlocking> Do you know if any method to prevent the spam click or is it how it's supposed to work?
L654[13:01:48] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L655[13:01:48] <Mimiru> Inari, it's the 3rd argument to use
L656[13:01:50] <Turtle> see what happens if you use a shorter delay than math.huge
L657[13:02:16] <Murlocking> Okay Turtle I will try that. But I have another small issue with that program.
L658[13:02:22] <Turtle> wait, are we talking extra utilities watering cans?
L659[13:02:25] <Murlocking> I want it to print only once "Running..."
L660[13:02:29] <Murlocking> Yeah Turtle
L661[13:02:38] <Inari> Mimiru: hm, interesting
L662[13:02:39] <Turtle> iirc, those work in an area, try using a different side
L663[13:02:41] <Mimiru> Then move the print out of the while true do loop
L664[13:02:43] <Turtle> ^
L665[13:03:01] <Murlocking> Ah okay, it's that simple :D
L666[13:03:09] <Turtle> well you are looping over the print
L667[13:03:14] <Turtle> so ofc it´d do it multiple times
L668[13:04:42] <Inari> it also keeps setting the lightcolor
L669[13:04:49] <Inari> ~oc robot
L670[13:04:49] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:robot
L671[13:05:01] <Murlocking> I don't need to do add "while true do" than if I use (math.huge) ? Is that right?
L672[13:05:43] <Murlocking> Since that would basically run the program indefinitely ?
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L674[13:09:50] <Murlocking> I used (100) instead of (math.huge) and It still spam clicking.
L675[13:09:51] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L676[13:13:22] <scj643> Anyone getting on my server
L677[13:14:12] <Kodos> Murlocking, I'm half asleep and cba to scroll up, what are you asking about
L678[13:16:06] <Murlocking> Trying to use the robot.use() function with Watering Can from Extra Utilities, it works but instead of holding down the right-click it spams it resulting into the robot collecting the block in front of it.
L679[13:16:06] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L680[13:16:52] <Murlocking> I'm using the Watering Can on the Essence Bushes from Tinker's Construct.
L681[13:16:57] <scj643> Why is enderbot responding to you talking
L682[13:17:08] <scj643> Oh spam
L683[13:17:10] <Murlocking> I have to idea might be the parathense.
L684[13:17:25] <scj643> Spams
L685[13:17:25] <Murlocking> parentheses*
L686[13:17:45] <Murlocking> Nah it's the ()
L687[13:17:48] <scj643> The video is Monty Python spam
L688[13:17:50] <scj643> ()
L689[13:17:58] <scj643> Use()
L690[13:17:58] <Murlocking> Wait.. I have no idea bro :(
L691[13:18:08] <scj643> (100
L692[13:18:10] <scj643> )
L693[13:18:14] <scj643> (100)
L694[13:18:23] <scj643> Who owns EnderBot2
L695[13:18:32] <Mimiru> Lizzy
L696[13:18:35] <Mimiru> and yes, it was spam
L697[13:18:35] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L698[13:18:43] <Mimiru> it randomly replies to the word spam in a message
L699[13:18:44] <Kodos> Murlocking, iirc robots can't hold down the swing/use
L700[13:18:55] <Mimiru> Kodos, it's in the robot.use api..
L701[13:19:05] <Murlocking> Is it possible to modify the API ? Somehow?
L702[13:19:10] <Kodos> Mimiru, is it?
L703[13:19:31] <Murlocking> Yes Kodos, there's a duration arg
L704[13:19:33] <Mimiru> robot.use([side: number[, sneaky: boolean[, duration: number]]]): boolean[, string]
L705[13:19:38] <Mimiru> duration - how long the item is used. This is useful when using charging items like a bow.
L706[13:19:57] <Murlocking> But I read on the Wiki the duration is "simulated" that might my issue :(
L707[13:20:35] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L708[13:20:42] <Mimiru> It may require the user to be an instance of EntityPlayer
L709[13:20:44] <Mimiru> which the robot isn't
L710[13:21:12] <scj643> Spam spam spam
L711[13:21:12] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L712[13:21:16] <scj643> Yeah
L713[13:21:18] <Murlocking> It kinda sucks if I can't get around this... my robot kinda looks dumb and it's collecting stuff that I will have to pipe out from.. Sad..
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L715[13:26:25] <scj643> Murlocking: you doing this on a server or SP
L716[13:26:29] <Murlocking> From the config file...
L717[13:26:30] <Murlocking> Whether robots may use items for a specifiable duration. This allows robots to use items such as bows, for which the right mouse button has to be held down for a longer period of time. For robots this works slightly different: the item is told it was used for the specified duration immediately, but the robot will not resume execution until the time that the item was supposedly being used has elapsed. This way robots cannot rapidly fire critical shots with a b
L718[13:26:45] <Murlocking> I'm testing it on SP but it's for a server.
L719[13:26:55] <scj643> What server
L720[13:27:22] <Murlocking> You mean OC Server or Minecraft Server?
L721[13:27:35] <scj643> Server that you play on
L722[13:27:44] <Murlocking> Mine, it's a Forge Server
L723[13:27:57] <scj643> Oh you have your own
L724[13:28:24] <Murlocking> yeah ;) It's just a server for 2 players, me and my buddy
L725[13:28:51] <Murlocking> I don't think I can run a server with more players. My internet is really crappy
L726[13:29:00] <Murlocking> and CPU is running at 90%
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L728[13:29:48] <Murlocking> I don't think what I'm trying to do is possible without modifying the API itself.
L729[13:29:57] <Murlocking> And I have no idea if that's even possible.
L730[13:30:01] <Murlocking> Probably..
L731[13:32:02] <scj643> I have my own server
L732[13:32:07] <scj643> http://scj643.theender.net/mcmods/
L733[13:32:11] <scj643> That's the pack
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L735[13:32:42] * gamax92 looks at vm snapshot date, looks at current date
L736[13:32:45] <gamax92> windows update running for 2 hours
L737[13:32:49] <gamax92> still checking for updates
L738[13:33:44] <Murlocking> Do you think there's a place I could suggest a config tweak to make my program possible to the Devs?
L739[13:34:09] <Mimiru> Murlocking, since the robot isn't an EntityPlayer, I'm pretty sure it can't do what you need
L740[13:34:24] <Mimiru> It wouldn't be a simple change to make either.
L741[13:34:46] <Murlocking> Nah Mimiru, it's not how it works for that particular case. I can use the Watering Can with robots just fine.
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L743[13:35:20] <Murlocking> It's because the holding effect is simulated and the time that the item was hold is added to the delay of the next action.
L744[13:35:24] <Mimiru> duration is not possible afaik on non player entities.
L745[13:35:43] <Mimiru> the simulation is because a non player can not do item use duration.
L746[13:36:16] <Murlocking> Ah okay I see what you mean, so it would Impossible.
L747[13:37:20] <Mimiru> In my experience, yes. I've not done a ton with entities, but from what I've seen, yes.
L748[13:38:33] <Murlocking> There should be a component that give a robot a fake EntityPlayer code.. I don't know if that would be possible.
L749[13:52:45] <Murlocking> Okay here's my Program 2... another problem because I'm a lua pleb..
L750[13:52:46] <Murlocking> http://pastebin.ca/3189805
L751[13:53:28] <Murlocking> I'm trying to make my robot use the item equipped in the tool slot until it's (hand) tool slot is empty, then switch with the first slot and repeat.
L752[13:54:28] <Murlocking> I know my program doesn't work, first because i'm using 'else' on line 18 with no 'then' but I got no clue how I can achieve what I'm trying to do.
L753[13:55:20] <Murlocking> I tried a lot of different option. One worked but it would just constantly swap the tool when the first slot of the robot inventory was filled.
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L755[14:09:09] <Murlocking> Okay changed a few things in my program 2 but I still need someone to help me out with the code... please :(
L756[14:09:11] <Murlocking> http://pastebin.ca/3189852
L757[14:10:50] <Murlocking> My first function should do this " check if first slot > 50 if true, do component.inventory_controller.equip() and robot.setLightColor(0xF4FF0D)
L758[14:18:29] <Kubuxu> If you are using TeamSpeak 3 update it RIGHT NOW>
L759[14:18:43] <Kubuxu> There is security hole allowing for file inclusion.
L760[14:18:57] <Murlocking> Okay remade the first function, http://pastebin.ca/3189875 should now works... but I need to know if it's possible to compare the tool slot with an inventory slot on the robot. Or if there's a name to use for the "Tool Slot". I could use that to compare the first slot with the tool slot and switch if it's empty...
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L762[14:26:44] <shadowkin0721> Verizon FIOS customer service is fucking terrible.
L763[14:30:00] <Murlocking> Changed my first function again if someone looked at it you were probably like " wow this guy is a noob " Yes I am! Had them inverted...
L764[14:30:13] <shadowkin0721> Everybody's a noob at some point.
L765[14:30:17] <shadowkin0721> Often multiple points.
L766[14:31:04] <Murlocking> Would you be familiar with robot api by any chance?
L767[14:31:18] <shadowkin0721> Nah, I'm pretty noobish with oc myself.
L768[14:31:28] <Murlocking> Okay thanks anyway ;)
L769[14:32:00] <Murlocking> Everything I try to achieve seems impossible, it's really depressing.
L770[14:33:29] <shadowkin0721> Can you post a current version of your program? I'll take a look at it...maybe two noob sets of eyes are better than one.
L771[14:33:54] <Murlocking> Sure I'll upload the fixed one.
L772[14:34:42] <Murlocking> http://pastebin.ca/3189917
L773[14:35:15] <Murlocking> I want to Compare 'Tool Slot' to 'Slot 1' of robot inventory but I don't think it's possible.
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L775[14:36:54] <Murlocking> Even looked at the component.inventory_controller api and it doesn't seem you can compare tool slot with an inventory slot.. illogical..
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L777[14:39:21] <Mimiru> Murlocking, just use equip to swap the tool into another slot then compare the two?
L778[14:40:15] <Murlocking> Can't because I will block the other inventory slot with a cobblestone block
L779[14:40:56] <Murlocking> I'm pumping items into the robot*
L780[14:41:37] <Mimiru> leave a slot open for the tool? I think that's your only option..
L781[14:41:44] <Murlocking> I think I will use another method instead... like pull 64 items from a chest, switch to tool slot, use the robot.use() function 64 times and repeat
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L783[14:42:18] <Murlocking> Is there anyway to use a function and specify the number of times it will be used?
L784[14:42:43] <Murlocking> Copy pasting robot.use() 64 times seems a bit awkward
L785[14:42:45] <Mimiru> just use it in a forloop
L786[14:42:58] <Murlocking> Hehe, I don't know how you do that :D
L787[14:43:09] <Murlocking> I read about it a little.
L788[14:43:26] <Murlocking> But like.. i don't know how to use it
L789[14:43:31] <Mimiru> for i=64,1,+1 do yourFunction() end iirc
L790[14:44:02] <Mimiru> I can never remember the format for for loops ¬_¬
L791[14:44:10] <Magik6k> for i=64,1 do yourFunction() end
L792[14:44:29] <Murlocking> On the same line?
L793[14:44:39] <Mimiru> Doesn't have to be
L794[14:45:07] <Murlocking> okay thanks guys <3 Without you I wouldn't be able to do anything with this program!
L795[14:45:08] <Mimiru> Magik6k, I thought you had to specify the inc/dec, or atleast i = i + 1 or whatever
L796[14:45:45] <Magik6k> You don't have to
L797[14:45:50] <Magik6k> but you way
L798[14:45:53] <Magik6k> *may
L799[14:45:55] <Magik6k> ~w for
L800[14:45:55] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-error ( I tried D: )
L801[14:46:03] <Magik6k> ~w for loop
L802[14:46:04] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:floppy
L803[14:46:15] <Mimiru> dot dot dot
L804[14:46:56] <Vexatos> period period period
L805[14:47:04] * Mimiru shanks ocdoc
L806[14:47:10] <Murlocking> rofl
L807[14:48:57] <Magik6k> ~w metatable
L808[14:48:58] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-getmetatable
L809[14:49:04] <Magik6k> ~w setmetatable
L810[14:49:04] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-setmetatable
L811[14:52:36] <Magik6k> hmm, some structures in my kernel are getting somewhat complex
L812[14:52:44] <Magik6k> like kernel.modules.threading.currentThread.cgroups.module.preload[k] = v
L813[14:53:02] <Murlocking> I think I got it :)
L814[14:56:48] <shadowkin0721> For loop increment is optional. Defaults to +1.
L815[14:58:33] <Murlocking> Here's my beauty :O http://pastebin.ca/3189975
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L817[14:59:10] <Murlocking> dang it! forgot to specify suckDown... *shame*
L818[14:59:32] <Vexatos> So I was bored
L819[14:59:37] <Vexatos> so I went to the library
L820[14:59:44] <Vexatos> and I found and read a book on Lua
L821[14:59:44] <Vexatos> >_>
L822[14:59:44] <Magik6k> BTW, I finally have tab-completion in plan9k(stolen from openos, but still)
L823[14:59:48] <Vexatos> By a certain Roberto Ierusalimschy
L824[14:59:52] <Vexatos> .-.
L825[15:00:07] <Vexatos> I also read a book on C the day before .-.
L826[15:00:12] <Vexatos> I'm so bored sometimes
L827[15:03:18] <Murlocking> Can you do "while true do" inside a "while true do" ?
L828[15:03:25] <gamax92> Magik6k: i hope you have better tab completion
L829[15:03:26] <shadowkin0721> Yes but why?
L830[15:03:32] <Magik6k> Is it good idea to spawn all proceses in separate library namespaces(so that they have separate package module)
L831[15:03:36] <gamax92> as in, keep relative names if they started out relative
L832[15:03:44] <Magik6k> gamax92, taht's longer-term geal
L833[15:03:52] <Magik6k> hmm
L834[15:04:00] <Magik6k> Actually that works IIRC
L835[15:04:17] <Murlocking> I will paste my 3rd program, let me upload it without all the comments.
L836[15:04:53] <Mimiru> Ugh fetching the ID3v2 tag from a stream is a bitch.
L837[15:04:59] <Magik6k> gamax92, for some reason that stolen code doesn't do that :D
L838[15:05:11] <Mimiru> I know it works, cause a player based on the same library I use can do it
L839[15:05:28] <Magik6k> probably due to differences in FS implementation
L840[15:05:53] <Magik6k> http://assets.magik6k.net/screenshoots/2205484010201505.png
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L842[15:09:34] <Murlocking> Okay here's my 3rd program. http://pastebin.ca/3189987 Do you guys spot anything I could improve to make it more clearer ? Or something I didn't do correctly.
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L844[15:13:15] <shadowkin0721> I would loop the sections in row123() so you can iterate it however many times you want
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L846[15:13:54] <shadowkin0721> Create a local variable like local length = 5 (since you're doing it 5 times in the function) and for i = 1, length do, then use the section you have copy & pasted
L847[15:14:08] <shadowkin0721> So that if you wanted to reuse the program for a different size area, you could.
L848[15:14:25] <Magik6k> hmmmm
L849[15:14:43] <shadowkin0721> Then at the end outside of the for loop you'd have to call robot.up since that's the only difference I see
L850[15:14:56] <shadowkin0721> You could do the same in row4() and call robot.down() 3 times after.
L851[15:15:41] <Magik6k> In fact I could create virtual file in p9k to control robots that would read bytes as commands, so one could do `echo commands.robot > /dev/robot`
L852[15:16:50] <Murlocking> Okay thanks shadowkin0721 I will try to understand and do what you said ! Thanks a lot for the great tips!
L853[15:19:12] <shadowkin0721> Murlocking: http://pastebin.com/sCAhd8kc Here's my version of it. That should clarify what I meant.
L854[15:20:14] <Vexatos> Magik6k, opinions please
L855[15:20:27] <Vexatos> s::split(",") --> s = s:split(",")
L856[15:20:35] <Vexatos> should that :: be :: or := or ::=
L857[15:20:37] <Murlocking> Yup I figured it out ;) Thanks! And you forgot robot.turnAround before robot.up() ;)
L858[15:21:55] <Murlocking> Oh nice, you always using local rows, good idea!
L859[15:22:00] <Murlocking> also *
L860[15:22:10] <shadowkin0721> Oh, I didn't see that difference. Slight change to it then.
L861[15:22:19] <shadowkin0721> Because it doesn't account for the 5th iteration NOT having robot.forward()
L862[15:22:35] <shadowkin0721> I would say knock the loop down to 4, and have the entire 5th iteration outside of the loop
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L864[15:23:02] <esteban> hello
L865[15:23:03] <esteban> :D
L866[15:23:43] <esteban> ...
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L868[15:23:53] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L869[15:24:00] <Vexatos> Magik6k, tellmeh D:
L870[15:24:15] <Murlocking> Okay thanks Shadow, will do!
L871[15:24:37] <shadowkin0721> http://pastebin.com/yfUczka5
L872[15:24:46] <shadowkin0721> That should do it.
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L874[15:25:26] <shadowkin0721> Then length is set to the actual number, and the for loop does the adjustment for you. Just don't do anything silly like set length to 0 or a negative number.
L875[15:26:07] <Magik6k> hmm
L876[15:26:27] <shadowkin0721> You might want to give rows a similar treatment, since as it's written now it can only be used for 2 or more rows. row4() is added no matter what.
L877[15:26:38] <Murlocking> Well I changed local length = 5 to 4 instead in the version, that should do the same right?
L878[15:26:47] <Magik6k> Vexatos, /me likes s:split(",")
L879[15:27:13] <Murlocking> I'm lost :(
L880[15:27:24] <shadowkin0721> Lemme PM you. :)
L881[15:27:49] <Murlocking> I don't understand why you do for i = 1, (length - 1) do instead of just using length = 4
L882[15:28:08] <shadowkin0721> Because then you don't have to remember to adjust the length
L883[15:28:24] <shadowkin0721> Otherwise, in the future you'd have to remember to subtract one on the variable value.
L884[15:28:32] <Vexatos> Magik6k, : doesn't work
L885[15:28:35] <Vexatos> for obvious reasons
L886[15:28:41] <shadowkin0721> I always like to try to stupid proof things, because I'm stupid. :P
L887[15:28:41] <Vexatos> : already exists >_>
L888[15:28:48] <Vexatos> My question was :: or := or ::=
L889[15:28:52] <Vexatos> or anything else
L890[15:28:53] <Vexatos> really
L891[15:28:58] <Vexatos> I do accept other suggestions
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L893[15:29:55] <Murlocking> Okay I see why you wanted me to do it that way now shadowkin0721 :D make sense!
L894[15:29:59] <shadowkin0721> :D
L895[15:30:09] <shadowkin0721> Learning has occurred!
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L898[15:31:06] <Murlocking> Thanks man, you're really helpful to me!
L899[15:31:35] <Murlocking> This way I can share the program and people will be able to use it more easily aswell
L900[15:33:28] <shadowkin0721> Yeah, if you're going to share it you definitely want to have it tightened up. You can't count on the people trying to use it understanding it like you do, and anything you can do to reduce the number of questions will help with your sanity retention.
L901[15:34:31] <shadowkin0721> Right now there's no error handling. Something that would definitely need to be fixed if you publish it.
L902[15:34:32] <Magik6k> Vexatos, :: then
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L904[15:34:54] <Zanthemanpu9to37> puto chupaa pijas
L905[15:35:02] <shadowkin0721> Yo mama.
L906[15:35:05] <Murlocking> Error handling? Like printing the errors?
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L908[15:35:24] <shadowkin0721> More like continuing to run even if there is an error.
L909[15:35:35] <shadowkin0721> Whether it's a Lua error, or something outside the program. Like gravel.
L910[15:35:40] <Murlocking> Sounds complicated!
L911[15:35:59] <Murlocking> Oh it's not a miner by the way ;)
L912[15:36:13] <Murlocking> Should have specified that before, it's a "farmer"
L913[15:36:19] <shadowkin0721> No, but it easily could be.
L914[15:36:23] <Murlocking> True.
L915[15:36:27] <shadowkin0721> With just a little tweaking. :)
L916[15:36:37] <Murlocking> Yeah, just need to give it a pickaxe.
L917[15:36:49] <Murlocking> and change the code a little..
L918[15:36:51] <shadowkin0721> Yeah, and make changes to handle gravel or sand.
L919[15:37:41] <Murlocking> For now, I don't think someone could crash the program unless the robot can't move
L920[15:38:08] <Murlocking> So I guess the error handling should be oriented on the robot movements.
L921[15:38:54] <Murlocking> Like, if the robot is not facing an Air block when it's placed the program will probably error out.
L922[15:39:25] <shadowkin0721> See the message I just sent you for how to handle that. :)
L923[15:39:43] <Murlocking> I could also print instructions and a prompt command to "start" the program.
L924[15:40:29] <Murlocking> Shit that might get complicated :D
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L926[15:41:07] <Murlocking> I'll be right back in a couple minute. Will take a look at that after my break.
L927[15:41:28] <Murlocking> And how to add an instruction menu.
L928[15:41:36] <Mimiru> Murlocking, just do your prints for the instructions, then do a var = term.read() if var == start then or something
L929[15:42:00] <Mimiru> I think you might have to strip the newline when you hit enter...
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L931[15:43:42] <scj643> Any OC related mod updates that I should know about
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L935[15:45:19] <Murlocking> Thank you Mimiru, I will read about the term.read() function.
L936[15:45:26] <Vexatos> Magik6k, I thought so too
L937[15:45:27] <Vexatos> Ok
L938[15:45:29] <Vexatos> will do
L939[15:45:34] <Vexatos> ...tomorrow
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L943[15:46:56] <Mimiru> Murlocking, io.read() will do the same, without including the newline.
L944[15:47:24] <Mimiru> %seen Sangar
L945[15:47:24] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Sangar was last seen 12h 7m 47s ago.
L946[15:47:26] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L947[15:47:51] <Murlocking> What does "newline" mean Mimiru, main language is French.. not helping me when all the info is in English :D
L948[15:48:14] <Mimiru> \n a literal newline character
L949[15:48:46] <Murlocking> Oh yeah, I read about those a little yesterday.
L950[15:49:29] <Sangar> wat
L951[15:49:44] <Mimiru> Oh Sangar! Hai
L952[15:50:00] <Mimiru> I totally had a question for you...
L953[15:50:00] <Sangar> yo
L954[15:50:07] <Mimiru> and I have no idea what it was now.
L955[15:50:07] <Sangar> uhuh
L956[15:50:13] <Sangar> cool
L957[15:50:17] <Mimiru> :( Sorry
L958[15:50:25] <Sangar> the answer probably would have been "i can't remember" :P
L959[15:50:33] <Mimiru> lol
L960[16:01:29] <gamax92> %seen Sangar
L961[16:01:30] <MichiBot> gamax92: Sangar was last seen 11m 3s ago.
L962[16:02:50] <Sangar> good to know i immediately turn invisible after i stop talking
L963[16:04:25] <gamax92> Where did he go?!?!
L964[16:04:41] <Sangar> BOO
L965[16:06:38] <Skye> Hahaha ha
L966[16:06:40] <Skye> S
L967[16:06:54] <gamax92> F
L968[16:14:41] <Turtle> lol
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L970[16:21:53] <esteban> hello
L971[16:22:11] <esteban> ?
L972[16:23:04] <esteban> ...
L973[16:23:37] <Turtle> o/
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L980[16:36:56] <esteban> hola hi
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L986[16:38:17] <asie> Sangar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdwORC-kfdY&feature=youtu.be
L987[16:38:18] <MichiBot> asie: Creating a Pacman 256 fan game in CraftOS 2.0 | length: 2m 17s | Likes: 43 Dislikes: 0 Views: 410 | by Dan200
L988[16:38:33] <asie> >audio
L989[16:38:36] <asie> >graphics
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L991[16:42:47] <Sangar> hmhmm. if that's actually for mc and runs networked without butchering the bandwidth or lagging like hell i'll definitely be impressed ;)
L992[16:43:35] <asie> Sangar: oh. right.
L993[16:44:10] <Magik6k> Sangar, but hey, who needs more than 2 computers per server anyways?
L994[16:44:22] <asie> anyway
L995[16:44:27] <asie> i plan to work on something special for OpenComputers... hehe
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L997[16:44:39] <Sangar> otherwise i'll consider it a homebrew love-like thinger, which is also cool, but not as relevant :P
L998[16:44:45] <Sangar> oohh, what is it?
L999[16:44:52] <Sangar> spoilers?
L1000[16:44:52] <asie> secret
L1001[16:45:02] <Sangar> :3
L1002[16:45:04] * Magik6k Wants GPU memory
L1003[16:45:18] <asie> but if it works, it will blow CC out of the water nerdy-geekiness-wise
L1004[16:45:25] <Sangar> wasn't Temia working on a pr for gpu buffer stuff?
L1005[16:45:33] * Magik6k Can't into window system w/o it ;/
L1006[16:45:37] <asie> i don't need a gpu buffer
L1007[16:45:39] <asie> :)
L1008[16:45:42] <asie> really
L1009[16:45:42] <Sangar> !
L1010[16:45:46] <asie> the GPU, esp. Tier 3, is very nice to work with
L1011[16:45:49] <asie> if you know your limits
L1012[16:46:02] <Sangar> hear hear :D
L1013[16:46:41] <Murlocking> Okay back from a shower and I had a good idea for my Program #2
L1014[16:47:15] <Magik6k> Hmm
L1015[16:47:36] <Murlocking> Instead of using robot.use() 64 times (stack size) I will pull the items from the chest, inspect them to get their stack size and will use the robot.use() function for the the number returned.
L1016[16:48:05] <Murlocking> That way I don't waste time using the robot.use() function when the tool slot is empty
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L1018[16:48:16] <Murlocking> And the program is more flexible.
L1019[16:48:45] <Magik6k> In fact I may make the windowing system w/o the memory but it will be limited and heavy on RAM
L1020[16:50:59] <scj643> Will eventually be closing my server and changing it to a new pack
L1021[16:51:01] <Magik6k> But I need to finish some internal kernel magic first
L1022[16:51:21] <scj643> So anyone that goes on my server their will be a wipe sometime
L1023[16:52:08] <scj643> I'm sorry but my gaming network minewars gaming has a pack that we are making and I'm going to be using that it will still be creative and have OC
L1024[16:56:02] <scj643> S3
L1025[16:56:41] <Inari> boobooo
L1026[16:56:55] <scj643> Inari we will be switching packs eventually
L1027[16:57:01] <Magik6k> ~w _pcall
L1028[16:57:01] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-pcall
L1029[16:57:09] <Inari> you just said that
L1030[16:57:19] <scj643> Just making sure people know
L1031[16:57:30] <Inari> the heck does pcall even stand for
L1032[16:57:36] <Inari> protected call i guess
L1033[16:57:43] <Inari> yeah
L1034[16:58:14] <scj643> Also doing this is easier for me since I'm not the only maintainer and we can have 2 servers one survival and one creative
L1035[17:01:15] <Murlocking> Ok remade program #2 to use the actual item stack size instead of 64. Can someone tell me if the syntax are correct please? Here's the link http://pastebin.ca/3190196
L1036[17:02:22] <Murlocking> The part I'm not sure if it's correct is this one "for i=itemsCount,1" on line 22. Not sure what the '1' stand for.
L1037[17:06:02] <Murlocking> Mimiru: Do you know if this is correct http://pastebin.ca/3190196 I used robot.count(1) instead of 64 to minimize the robot.use() inputs if unneeded. Would that actually works?
L1038[17:15:54] <Murlocking> asie: that video you linked is insane :D
L1039[17:19:03] <Inari> asie: i think the point is that people want more than these limits ;D
L1040[17:19:37] <Inari> "but if it works, it will blow CC out of the water nerdy-geekiness-wise" <- now im curious
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L1042[17:20:29] <Murlocking> Can someone tell me what the local pargs ={...} does in this program. https://github.com/NoahNMorton/Gangsir_MC_LuaPrograms/blob/master/OpenComputers/SugarcaneHarvester.lua
L1043[17:21:12] <Turtle> it fetches the arguments passed to the chunk that code runs in
L1044[17:21:42] <asie> Inari: the limits all make sense
L1045[17:21:44] <asie> technically
L1046[17:21:46] <Inari> i wonder how you could run craftOS 2.0 in MC xD
L1047[17:21:53] <gamax92> quickly, make a program to decode the script from that video
L1048[17:21:54] <Turtle> i.e., ¨SugarcaneHarvester.lua Apple Banana¨, pargs = {¨Apple¨, ¨Banana¨}
L1049[17:21:59] <Inari> asie: not being able to store stuff off-screen doesnt make much sense to me
L1050[17:22:07] <gamax92> then make an environment to run the script in
L1051[17:22:14] <asie> Inari: that would be fine, but too much memory... is too much memory
L1052[17:22:20] * gamax92 downloads the video and goes to write this program
L1053[17:22:35] <Inari> asie: technically if i take a tier 3 gpu and put the resolution below max i should have free memory
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L1055[17:23:28] <asie> Inari: yeah
L1056[17:23:36] <asie> Sangar: shouldn't that be easy to add?
L1057[17:23:41] <asie> hardcoding the resolution to the GPU's max
L1058[17:23:45] <asie> and simply having a viewport?
L1059[17:23:51] <asie> (then being able to move that viewport around)
L1060[17:24:19] <Inari> also it isnt like we want 4 MB of video meomry or something
L1061[17:24:40] <Turtle> Since we are talking gpus, there is no way to scale the screen gui itself, right?
L1062[17:24:47] <asie> generally, bandwidth usage must be kept low
L1063[17:24:50] <asie> that is the only law
L1064[17:25:25] <Inari> memory makes bandwidht usage lower
L1065[17:25:26] <Inari> win \O/
L1066[17:25:29] <Sangar> asie, i suppose it would
L1067[17:25:42] <Murlocking> Turtle, what does that mean "fetches the arguments passed to the chunk that code runs in" can you explain it in simpler words if possible. I'm a newbie :(
L1068[17:26:07] <Turtle> Imagine all that code is inside a function
L1069[17:26:08] <Inari> (at least it does in certain situations :P)
L1070[17:26:20] <Turtle> {...} grabs the variables passed to that function and puts them in a table
L1071[17:26:26] <Inari> asie: whats considered "low" btw?
L1072[17:26:34] <Sangar> hrm, well. there's have to be a "base" resolution, and a viewport resolution
L1073[17:26:37] <Turtle> It´s commonly used to deal with a dynamic amount of variables.
L1074[17:27:01] <Murlocking> But is it needed in that program I linked? Mine is pretty much the same.
L1075[17:27:15] <Turtle> the harvester thing from Noah?
L1076[17:27:19] <Sangar> i suppose a new api method for setting the viewport (pos + resolution) could work while keeping everything backwards compatible
L1077[17:27:20] <Murlocking> yeah
L1078[17:27:24] <asie> Sangar: yes
L1079[17:27:37] <asie> i'd argue the resolution could be 4x the current GPU resolution, for the total viewport
L1080[17:27:39] <asie> so 320x100 for tier 3
L1081[17:27:40] <Turtle> only if you want to run the program with arguments
L1082[17:27:43] <Mimiru> In that program it's to get the arguments you called the program with and put them in a table, you can call test arg1 arg2 arg3, pargs[1] would be arg1
L1083[17:27:46] <asie> 160x100 (or 160x50?) for tier 2
L1084[17:27:50] <asie> and 80x50 for tier 1
L1085[17:28:10] <Sangar> hmhm, so all operations would act on the viewport area, rest is just storage, right?
L1086[17:28:23] <asie> Sangar: operations act on the entire screen area
L1087[17:28:28] <asie> the viewport decides what is rendered
L1088[17:28:31] <asie> simple as that
L1089[17:28:42] <asie> commands are still as limited as they are now, so no more bandwidth usage
L1090[17:28:44] <Sangar> then increasing the resolution would still increase bandwidth use tho
L1091[17:28:48] <asie> would it?
L1092[17:28:52] <asie> you don't send the whole buffer do you
L1093[17:28:54] <Turtle> Couldn´t you obtain that effect relatively simply by creating a fake screen object?
L1094[17:28:54] <Sangar> well, potentially
L1095[17:28:55] <Murlocking> Mimiru, I see it's used to test some parts of the program?
L1096[17:29:07] <asie> Sangar: how so?
L1097[17:29:07] <Mimiru> Erm.. no, it's used to parse program arguments
L1098[17:29:34] <Murlocking> Godammit... I don't get it..
L1099[17:29:54] <Sangar> .set() would potentially affect more 'cells'
L1100[17:30:00] <Mimiru> … programname arg1 arg2 arg3, pargs[1] = arg1, pargs[2] = arg2
L1101[17:30:00] <asie> yeah
L1102[17:30:01] <Mimiru> etc
L1103[17:30:03] <asie> up to 2x more
L1104[17:30:11] <Sangar> aye
L1105[17:30:58] <Murlocking> Mimiru do you know what I should google to read more on that subject? I don't want to bother you too much :( Feels like I'm missing some basic knowledge..
L1106[17:31:12] <Mimiru> so say you want to harvest a 10 x 10 area, you could call harvest 10 10 then when you go to setup the size in your code you'd do height = pargs[1], width = pargs[2]
L1107[17:31:19] <Sangar> i'll sleep over the viewport thing (quite literally) and might have a go at it tomorrow; will do some network profiling to see how a higher res would play out
L1108[17:31:32] <asie> Sangar: also, if we were to do graphics, or even if we weren't
L1109[17:31:41] <asie> replicating the amiga's graphics chip design might be a good idea
L1110[17:32:08] <Sangar> i think you mentioned that before, and i forgot everything about it again >_>
L1111[17:32:09] <asie> the blitter, the copper (which is a very simple chip configuring the GPU at precise spots in memory) and the denise (which actually renders the graphics)
L1112[17:32:14] <asie> Sangar: nah, i said the atari xe
L1113[17:32:15] <Mimiru> Murlocking, http://www.lua.org/pil/5.2.html
L1114[17:32:17] <Sangar> ah
L1115[17:32:19] <asie> but the amiga's design maps very wel
L1116[17:32:22] <asie> well*
L1117[17:32:38] <asie> anyway, gtg
L1118[17:32:44] <Sangar> cya
L1119[17:32:51] <Murlocking> Thank you Mimiru! I understand a bit better how it's used but I still don't get why it's used in Noah program.
L1120[17:32:52] <Sangar> i'm off, too. sleep and such.
L1121[17:32:54] <Sangar> night o/
L1122[17:33:07] <Turtle> Murlocking, It isn´t.
L1123[17:33:23] <Mimiru> Yeah.. it's just there, he doesn't ever use it
L1124[17:33:55] <Murlocking> Oh I thought {...} was used in the Print
L1125[17:34:06] <Murlocking> it's just "blank" ?
L1126[17:34:19] <Murlocking> or "not specified"
L1127[17:34:21] <Turtle> he puts the arguments in the pargs table, but doesn´t do anything with the table
L1128[17:34:32] <Mimiru> search that code for pargs you'll find it once, where he defines it. It's never used
L1129[17:34:53] <Murlocking> Hmmm.. interesting I might integrate that to my Program #3
L1130[17:35:15] <Murlocking> That way if I share the program, people could use it easily without having to manually edit the program.
L1131[17:35:32] <Turtle> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/SentientTurtle/566423ec559ddcc7b392/raw/6727395de5b596162bfde212d4e6626adee2178b/2015-10-11_00-35-15.txt
L1132[17:35:41] <Turtle> That´s a -really- simple way of using it
L1133[17:35:55] <Turtle> Let´s assume that that code is a program named apple
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L1135[17:36:19] <Turtle> if you run it, say, ¨apple¨, it´ll do nothing, as no arguments are passed, and the ´args´ table is empty.
L1136[17:36:31] <Turtle> if you run it like, `apple A B C´, it´ll print A, then B, then C
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L1139[17:37:44] <esteban> Fuck you
L1140[17:37:53] <Mimiru> !kickban esteban
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L1142[17:37:56] <Mimiru> fuck you too.
L1143[17:37:57] <Mimiru> :D
L1144[17:37:59] <Murlocking> lol
L1145[17:38:03] <gamax92> wow ...
L1146[17:38:15] <Murlocking> Maybe I should take a look at the "dig" program
L1147[17:38:29] <Turtle> I greeted that guy, the heck is he salty about.
L1148[17:38:33] <Turtle> Murlocking, you could do that.
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L1151[17:39:39] <Murlocking> While you're here, do you mind taking a look at my program #2. Would that actually work? http://pastebin.ca/3190196
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L1153[17:40:14] <Mimiru> I have no idea, I've not really used turtles much
L1154[17:40:50] <Murlocking> Yeah.. my bad for being lazy.. I should just launch my Minecraft and give it a try in-game.
L1155[17:40:50] <Turtle> Somewhere across time and space Sangar twitches.
L1156[17:40:53] <Turtle> ±p
L1157[17:40:55] <Turtle> *:p
L1158[17:41:16] <Mimiru> I did that to see if anyone would call me on it :P
L1159[17:41:30] <Turtle> Murlocking, yeah, that looks like it works, you might want to fix the indentation though
L1160[17:41:43] <Murlocking> indentation?
L1161[17:41:48] <Turtle> tabs/spaces
L1162[17:41:49] <Murlocking> <--- Newbie
L1163[17:42:10] <Murlocking> Is that something important in lua?
L1164[17:42:16] <Murlocking> I thought that didn't matter
L1165[17:42:21] <Turtle> It makes the code much easier to read if it becomes more complex
L1166[17:42:31] <Turtle> I´ll rudely shove the code I´m working on right now in your face: https://gist.github.com/63f7e3ebc572d036a806
L1167[17:42:48] <Murlocking> Hehe, my stuff is a mess, that' what you're using? :P
L1168[17:42:53] <Turtle> NP++ :p
L1169[17:43:24] <Mimiru> Buffered file system off ftfw.
L1170[17:43:37] <Murlocking> Hehe, yeah I will do that in the future. It's not a bad idea. I should get myself a good template.
L1171[17:43:51] <Turtle> http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaStyleGuide , although a bit complex, is a good thing to follow
L1172[17:44:19] <Turtle> Mimiru, reimplementing javaside stuff, it´s going to be ugly :p
L1173[17:44:51] <Turtle> (Although for some reason CC´s fs.combine is javaside while purely a string operation vOv)
L1174[17:47:32] * gamax92 has looked at some of CC's java sided code while trying to figure out stuff for cclite
L1175[17:47:59] <Murlocking> Ok, I think I understand how to better indent my program... thank you Turtle and everyone who's helping me out today!
L1176[17:48:15] <Turtle> heh, don´t worry.
L1177[17:48:31] <Turtle> but yeah, things like indentation will help you keep track once you start diving deep into functions and loops
L1178[17:49:46] <Murlocking> Be right back in a few minutes. I will try the program 2 when I get back then continue working/improving program 3.
L1179[17:51:57] <gamax92> oh huh.
L1180[17:52:20] <gamax92> http://i.imgur.com/jiQjaim.png
L1181[17:52:21] <gamax92> see this menu?
L1182[17:54:20] <Turtle> I see it, I am too dumb to recognize it however.
L1183[17:56:26] <Turtle> (Looks like something Apple though)
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L1185[17:58:27] <gamax92> well it's been known for a long time now that dan200 uses a mac
L1186[17:58:28] <gamax92> :P
L1187[17:59:25] <Turtle> heh, never used one so I wasn´t fully sure
L1188[18:02:11] <Turtle> ugh. fs.find is going to require a bunch of list operations
L1189[18:02:31] <Mimiru> Ha, just launched the wrong project, was very confused why my printer was playing metal...
L1190[18:02:43] <Mimiru> turns out, that was the OpenFM project. :/
L1191[18:02:43] <Izaya> your printer can play metal?
L1192[18:02:55] <Mimiru> It cannot.
L1193[18:03:05] <Izaya> oh
L1194[18:03:08] <Izaya> can it play DOOM?
L1195[18:03:29] <Mimiru> No
L1196[18:03:36] <Mimiru> Ugh... I hate containers
L1197[18:03:52] <Turtle> Maybe if by ´play´ you mean ´The driver flailing around randomly like a toddler while being confused´
L1198[18:06:10] <Turtle> ... ugh that reminds me, I have to write a proper driver handler so OC equivalents of CC peripherals can be used.
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L1200[18:07:53] <Murlocking> And i'm back :) Let's test this program!
L1201[18:10:30] <Murlocking> God I love OpenComputers, booting this robot with a floppy disk is so nostalgic :D
L1202[18:11:04] <Murlocking> Remind me when I was a kid and I was trying to understand DOS by myself to play those games I bought in a PC shop for a couple of cents.
L1203[18:11:24] <Murlocking> Great time ;)
L1204[18:11:50] <Turtle> (And here I was, considering the possibility of a galacticraft addon that allows launching communication sattelites for OC :P)
L1205[18:12:04] <Murlocking> xD
L1206[18:12:13] <Inari> wollay tweetered ;o
L1207[18:12:25] <Murlocking> Speaking of addon, I downloaed OpenRadio last night.
L1208[18:12:41] <Murlocking> Can't wait to give it a try with Motion Sensor in my base
L1209[18:12:56] <Inari> i dont like openradio
L1210[18:13:13] <Murlocking> Oh really? It's meh?
L1211[18:13:22] <Inari> it lacks impact
L1212[18:13:37] <Murlocking> I'm using Better Records but there's no remote control for it.
L1213[18:13:46] <Murlocking> I really love the mod tho.
L1214[18:13:56] <Inari> what does it do anyway :D
L1215[18:14:19] <Inari> i just presume it adds a block that cna play internet radio..
L1216[18:14:35] <Turtle> hmh, how sturdy are custom multiblock renders now?
L1217[18:14:35] <Murlocking> Add a Radio and a Jukebox that can read "special" disk that you have downloaded songs on.
L1218[18:14:45] <Inari> ah
L1219[18:14:47] <Inari> eh
L1220[18:15:04] <Turtle> When I last used forge large custom renders tended to randomly dissapear if the ´origin´ block was no longer rendered.
L1221[18:15:14] <Mimiru> Wait, OpenRadio, or OpenFM? OpenRadio adds packet radio lasers. OpenFM adds streaming radio playing
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L1223[18:15:38] <Murlocking> Oh you are right Mimiru, OpenFM is the one i'm talking about.
L1224[18:16:22] <Murlocking> Have you guys played with it?
L1225[18:16:31] <Mimiru> Well, I wrote it, so I've played with it a decent bit :p
L1226[18:16:37] <Murlocking> Sorry for the confusion.. I thought that was the mod name :D
L1227[18:16:54] <Murlocking> Do you like it Mimiru?
L1228[18:16:56] <Inari> ah
L1229[18:16:58] <Inari> confused it with openFM
L1230[18:17:08] <Murlocking> Can you hook redstone signal to it ?
L1231[18:17:14] <Mimiru> Erm.. I'm pretty partial to it.. yes
L1232[18:17:15] <Mimiru> and Yes
L1233[18:17:22] <Mimiru> you just have to enable redstone listen in the UI
L1234[18:17:27] <Murlocking> Hehe. Cool!
L1235[18:17:43] <Mimiru> click the little pile of redstone by the close button
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L1237[18:17:55] <Inari> i think i just dislike that it seems too high level, but eh
L1238[18:17:56] <Murlocking> I will try something simple with Motion Sensor first and a basic switch.
L1239[18:18:22] <Mimiru> Murlocking, it also has OC control
L1240[18:18:26] <Mimiru> so you can just call start()
L1241[18:18:33] <Shuudoushi> ^
L1242[18:18:48] <Mimiru> fm = component.open_radio
L1243[18:18:51] <Mimiru> fm.start()
L1244[18:18:54] <Murlocking> Yeah i know that guys :) I want the radio to start when I enter my base ;)
L1245[18:18:54] <Shuudoushi> there is a bunch more than just start() as well
L1246[18:19:15] <Mimiru> Inari, too high level how?
L1247[18:19:21] <Mimiru> It's a Streaming radio tuner...
L1248[18:19:22] <Murlocking> And stop, when I leave it, without having to interact with it.
L1249[18:19:32] <Shuudoushi> motion sensor = is <player> within x distance >> radion = play
L1250[18:19:44] <Murlocking> Yep
L1251[18:19:54] <Inari> openfm link?
L1252[18:19:57] <Shuudoushi> there, I just did all your program mapping for you
L1253[18:20:04] <Murlocking> haha
L1254[18:20:12] <Murlocking> That was simple enough :)
L1255[18:20:19] <Shuudoushi> s/radiob/radio
L1256[18:20:31] * Shuudoushi slaps Kibibyte.
L1257[18:20:32] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L1258[18:20:34] <Inari> i had the link the other day
L1259[18:20:35] <Inari> <.<
L1260[18:20:42] <Shuudoushi> s/radion/radio
L1261[18:20:43] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> motion sensor = is <player> within x distance >> radio = play
L1262[18:20:48] <Shuudoushi> there we fucking go
L1263[18:21:01] <Mimiru> Inari, https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenFM source, http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/openfm downloads
L1264[18:21:04] <Shuudoushi> just go to Mimiru's github page >.>
L1265[18:21:40] <Inari> too high level in that it takes care of a lot of stuff automatically and internally (connecting, fetching data, converting data, outputting audio)
L1266[18:21:58] <Mimiru> I'd love to see someone write a streaming audio processor in lua..
L1267[18:22:09] <Murlocking> I think the Dev of OpenFM was here last night.
L1268[18:22:15] <Mimiru> Murlocking.... That's me...
L1269[18:22:17] <Shuudoushi> me too lol
L1270[18:22:17] <Inari> lol
L1271[18:22:19] <Murlocking> Wait!?
L1272[18:22:21] <Murlocking> What!!
L1273[18:22:23] <Murlocking> XD
L1274[18:22:26] <Shuudoushi> dumb fuck XD
L1275[18:22:27] <Mimiru> [18:15:44] <Murlocking> Have you guys played with it?
L1276[18:22:27] <Mimiru> [18:15:53] <@Mimiru> Well, I wrote it, so I've played with it a decent bit :p
L1277[18:22:27] <Inari> Murlocking: nice one
L1278[18:22:31] <Murlocking> Omfg...
L1279[18:22:54] <Inari> Mimiru: so you're saying we need asm.lua?
L1280[18:23:02] <Mimiru> Erm.. sure?
L1281[18:23:12] <Mimiru> I also wrote OpenSecurity, OpenPrinter, OpenLights
L1282[18:23:16] <Inari> actually thats kind of a great idea
L1283[18:23:17] <Mimiru> I'm co dev for LanteaCraft
L1284[18:23:31] <Turtle> Some people from the LÖVE community may have done something to stream audio, although it has extensive audio libraries itself
L1285[18:23:37] <Inari> a co-processor block that can run program, written in an assembler language, compiled to java for performance
L1286[18:23:51] <Shuudoushi> where is that dude that was playing with SecureOS the other day btw?
L1287[18:24:01] <Mimiru> I'm still waiting for Temia to PR smart cards to OpenSecurity
L1288[18:24:02] <gamax92> Shuudoushi: on you use SecureOS
L1289[18:25:03] <Inari> smart cards?
L1290[18:25:37] <Izaya> is that like
L1291[18:25:42] <Izaya> a uC on a card?
L1292[18:25:46] <Izaya> if it is
L1293[18:25:47] <Izaya> I want it
L1294[18:25:48] <Mimiru> something like that, yes.
L1295[18:26:02] <Mimiru> on card processor, and code
L1296[18:26:21] <Inari> what are the advantages of it?
L1297[18:26:40] <Shuudoushi> Inari: stuffz
L1298[18:26:47] <ds84182> >compiled to java for performance
L1299[18:26:49] <Izaya> ... I just used a regular expression to filter out conflicts, strip version numbers and the aur/ thing from a list, and install all the icon themes from the AUR
L1300[18:26:50] <ds84182> have fun with that
L1301[18:26:54] <Inari> ds84182: hm?
L1302[18:27:11] <gamax92> I agree with Inari
L1303[18:27:36] <Shuudoushi> oh hey, I managed to fix something without break 40 other things.
L1304[18:27:37] <Inari> on what
L1305[18:27:52] <gamax92> on everything :o
L1306[18:27:58] <Turtle> wouldn´t compiling to java risk servere remote code execution issues unless sandboxed really well?
L1307[18:28:03] <Turtle> *severe
L1308[18:28:05] <Inari> so you'll agree on disagreeing?
L1309[18:28:10] <Inari> Turtle: nah
L1310[18:28:22] * Shuudoushi *sings* '99 bugs in the code, take one down and patch around, 149 bugs in the code'
L1311[18:28:23] <Inari> Turtle: you could kinda claim that for lua
L1312[18:28:23] <Inari> :D
L1313[18:28:25] <ds84182> Inari: How will it handle Java's stack based approach to everything
L1314[18:28:44] <Turtle> Inari, lua is much easier to sandbox though
L1315[18:28:52] * ds84182 gets out the instruction manual
L1316[18:29:02] <gamax92> ds84182: don't act like this hasn't been done before several times with no issues
L1317[18:29:25] <ds84182> gamax92: I am because I haven't seen it done before.
L1318[18:30:03] <ds84182> Yeah, with Java there's a lot of stack jumble mumble
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L1320[18:30:44] <ds84182> Actually, what the fuck am I thinking... Of course local variables are loading in and out of stack
L1321[18:31:56] <ds84182> Eh, it's possible, but any fuckups mean game_over();
L1322[18:34:04] <ds84182> Thing is, if you can explicitly control stuff, if you find a bug with the jsr instruction, you could technically jump in between to an instruction's immediate values and fuckshitupTM
L1323[18:34:09] <Turtle> ... I seriously wonder how big of a custom render multiblock you can get forge to handle.
L1324[18:34:41] <Turtle> (Context: Absolutely stupidly large radio telescopes/antennae for :reasons:)
L1325[18:34:55] <Izaya> 'reasons'
L1326[18:35:01] <vifino> "reasons"
L1327[18:35:04] <Izaya> will they be computer-controllable?
L1328[18:35:07] <ds84182> [[reasons]]
L1329[18:35:14] <Izaya> if so, I'm totally gonna control it with FORTH
L1330[18:35:25] <Izaya> because hysterical rasins
L1331[18:35:43] <Turtle> I mean I could start on a mod that adds a load of communication things for OC
L1332[18:35:50] <Turtle> but my knowledge of forge is rather outdated
L1333[18:35:56] <Turtle> (and I cannot, at all, model stuff in techne)
L1334[18:36:13] <ds84182> Turtle: You can load OBJ files as models
L1335[18:36:23] <Izaya> write the thing yourself, like, write the 3D model
L1336[18:36:35] <Izaya> apparently notch never used a 3D modeling program except for the ender dragon
L1337[18:36:58] <Turtle> yeah, but a huge radiotelescope is going to be more boxes than I feel confident coding directly :P
L1338[18:37:03] <Turtle> and ds84182, wait what?
L1339[18:37:14] <ds84182> Turtle: You can load OBJ files as models
L1340[18:37:23] <Izaya> tmpfs 1.9G 1.9G 0 100% /tmp
L1341[18:37:23] <Izaya> fuck
L1342[18:37:30] <Shuudoushi> ~w table
L1343[18:37:30] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-table
L1344[18:37:33] <Turtle> Into what?
L1345[18:37:39] <Turtle> Forge or techne?
L1346[18:37:47] <ds84182> Forge
L1347[18:38:01] <Turtle> I assume the amount of vertices and texturing options are limited?
L1348[18:38:08] <Racerman2001> That would explain why Decocraft is (relatively speaking) high-poly.
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L1350[18:40:37] <Turtle> Yep. Forge is different now. ugh I´ll go read up on the changes tomorrow
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L1354[18:45:43] <Inari> ds84182: why woudl you explicitly control stuff
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L1356[18:46:51] <gamax92> I wonder, how much of windows can you get via update files?
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L1358[18:47:31] <Turtle> probably not a lot
L1359[18:47:45] <gamax92> are you sure?
L1360[18:47:54] <gamax92> [ ]Yes [ ]No
L1361[18:48:11] <Turtle> yup
L1362[18:52:54] <Turtle> hmh, not doing custom renders on a obnoxiously large multiblock might actually still work, since, obnoxiously large so there´s a decent amount of blocks in the model
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L1365[18:54:43] <Turtle> slightly related, is there a component/block yet that allows computers to write BC blueprints?
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L1367[18:55:48] <Mimiru> I think COmputronics has some sort of interaction with BC blueprints, not sure in what capacity exactly
L1368[18:57:15] <Turtle> Doesn´t look like it, but I might be missing something
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L1372[19:03:03] <Murlocking> Okay I have a really complicated question... and I'll try to explain myself as good as possible.
L1373[19:03:37] <Murlocking> How do register a returned value to use it later ?
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L1375[19:05:04] <Murlocking> I want to suck items from an inventory, register the item stack size with robot.count(1) in the first slot of robot, equip it then use robot.use() for the value returned with robot.count(1)
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L1377[19:06:33] <shadowkin0721> You want to do robot.use() the number of times that robot.count(1) results in?
L1378[19:07:19] <shadowkin0721> for i = 1, robot.count(1) do whatever end
L1379[19:07:37] <Murlocking> Yes. But if I equip the items and then use for i=robot.count(1),1 it will be 0 since I equipped the items.
L1380[19:08:03] <shadowkin0721> local count1 = robot.count(1) then for i = 1, count1 do whatever end
L1381[19:08:11] <shadowkin0721> with equipping inbetween
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L1383[19:11:16] <shadowkin0721> I would declare count1 immediately before it's used though, just to ensure that it doesn't change after declaration.
L1384[19:13:19] <Murlocking> I will pastebin, my program :( My head is gonna explode!
L1385[19:13:24] <shadowkin0721> Haha, sure
L1386[19:13:48] <shadowkin0721> I know the feeling man
L1387[19:14:37] <ds84182> I wonder if |0xDEADBEEF|'s JS interpreter is ES6
L1388[19:14:42] <ds84182> #js let a = 5;
L1389[19:14:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Unexpected identifier at <eval>:1:6
L1390[19:14:45] <ds84182> nope
L1391[19:14:49] <Murlocking> Like... I know what I want to do but I don't know how to... and it's also harder to explain it in English.. like explaining my thoughts.. if you know what i mean.
L1392[19:15:57] <Murlocking> Hold on I'll add extra notes to better explain what I'm trying to do..
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L1397[19:24:52] <Murlocking> I'm not dead shadowkin0721 I'm still writing notes :)
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L1401[19:29:12] <Murlocking> shadowkin0721: http://pastebin.ca/3190461
L1402[19:30:04] <SoraFirestorm> quick question about EnderIO
L1403[19:30:15] <SoraFirestorm> does the SAG Mill need the flint/silicon thingy?
L1404[19:30:21] <SoraFirestorm> or does it just run less efficiently?
L1405[19:31:06] <Murlocking> Need it pretty sure.
L1406[19:31:18] <SoraFirestorm> guess I'll check when I get some ores
L1407[19:31:40] <ds84182> #p
L1408[19:31:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.397202568 Seconds passed.
L1409[19:34:05] <SoraFirestorm> no
L1410[19:34:10] <SoraFirestorm> it still works without
L1411[19:34:15] <SoraFirestorm> just less efficiently (apparently)
L1412[19:34:29] <Murlocking> Beta Build?
L1413[19:34:33] <Murlocking> With EnderCore ?
L1414[19:34:43] <SoraFirestorm> not intentionally
L1415[19:34:48] <SoraFirestorm> lemme check
L1416[19:35:03] <Murlocking> I mean, it's the latest one. Could have changed.
L1417[19:35:07] <SoraFirestorm> 2.2.8.381
L1418[19:35:11] <Murlocking> I'm using the latest release build.
L1419[19:35:27] <SoraFirestorm> I may not have the latest release
L1420[19:35:39] <Murlocking> And I think It didn't work for my friend but maybe he just didn't wait enough for the process to finish...
L1421[19:35:51] <SoraFirestorm> worked fine for me
L1422[19:35:54] <SoraFirestorm> started right up
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L1424[19:35:58] <gamax92> >_> people are surprised when a soundtrack carries the same theme or beat but in different speeds or different instruments.
L1425[19:36:02] <Murlocking> Cool, I'll tell him ;)
L1426[19:36:03] <SoraFirestorm> took a sec, because it's unupgraded
L1427[19:40:57] <SoraFirestorm> anyone know of any ways to do interdimensional power transport?
L1428[19:41:07] <SoraFirestorm> that's not a tesseract
L1429[19:45:09] <shadowkin0721> Hey Murlocking, I'm talking through some wedding shit with my fiance so I'll be slow. One style comment though: Keep your tabbing consistent so it's easier to tell nesting. It took me a second to realize you're missing an end on line 8. You ended the if, but not the function.
L1430[19:47:01] <Murlocking> I'll be right back later man, friend want to play some games.. if you're here still i'll message you. I think I made a much more simple program.
L1431[19:47:19] <shadowkin0721> Yeah, message me. I'll get back to you when I can.
L1432[19:47:37] <Murlocking> And sorry about that... don't really know what I'm doing yet the tabbing.. trying to figure out a good formating :(
L1433[19:48:07] <SoraFirestorm> and I know that it's meant to be simple
L1434[19:48:19] <SoraFirestorm> but why the hell does default 'edit' not do that?
L1435[19:48:36] <shadowkin0721> Not to toot my own horn but look at mine from earlier.
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L1452[21:05:42] <SoraFirestorm> %calc 8192 / 64
L1453[21:05:43] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm: 128
L1454[21:11:59] <shadowkin0721> SoraFirestorm: Dimensional Transceiver from EnderIO?
L1455[21:12:33] <SoraFirestorm> maybe
L1456[21:12:43] <SoraFirestorm> I'm trying to find something that has an EMC value in Project E
L1457[21:12:55] <shadowkin0721> Oh, no idea there.
L1458[21:12:56] <SoraFirestorm> so that I can reuse the materials/easily make more
L1459[21:13:32] <SoraFirestorm> the Dimensional Transceiver doesn't have a value either :/
L1460[21:13:38] <SoraFirestorm> I may have to bite it
L1461[21:13:42] <SoraFirestorm> I'd rather not though
L1462[21:13:44] <shadowkin0721> Only other thing I can think of would be using ender tanks to transport power-generating liquid (lava, steam, etc) across dimensions.
L1463[21:14:04] <SoraFirestorm> I can make those things
L1464[21:14:11] <SoraFirestorm> But I'm afraid of power output being poor
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L1472[21:59:35] <Murlocking> shadowkin0721: Hey man are you here?
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L1476[22:17:08] <shadowkin0721> Do XP drains work on robots?
L1477[22:17:32] <Mimiru> ¬_¬ really not sure how I like this texture for the shredder http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-10-10_22-16-36.gif Thoughts?
L1478[22:18:27] <shadowkin0721> Mimiru: Maybe checkerboard the "blades"? It looks weird solid
L1479[22:19:13] <SoraFirestorm> I think it looks alright
L1480[22:19:13] <Mimiru> I hate texturing
L1481[22:19:22] <SoraFirestorm> yeah, a little weird on the blades though
L1482[22:39:57] <Mimiru> K, got my texture artist on it \o/
L1483[22:40:03] <SoraFirestorm> \o/
L1484[22:41:32] <Kodos> Flawed?
L1485[22:42:06] <Mimiru> Yeah
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L1487[22:53:55] <SoraFirestorm> %calc 128 * 64
L1488[22:53:55] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm: 8,192
L1489[22:54:33] <Kodos> Oughta look good then, he's the one who fixed my textures isn't he?
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L1494[23:29:54] <Izaya> I shoud like, upgrade my GPU, throw my 750Ti in the C2D box and use it for Steam in-home streaming.
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L1496[23:42:53] <gamax92> ;-;
L1497[23:42:58] <gamax92> Dolby headphone
L1498[23:43:05] <gamax92> brain hurts
L1499[23:44:49] <gamax92> 2scary
L1500[23:48:18] <gamax92> "HURR DURR MY $9523 HEADPHONES ARE AMAZING"
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