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L1[00:00:12] ⇨ Joins: SoraFirestorm (~EiraIRC@131-191-86-130.as.clicknet.org)
L2[00:01:12] <SoraFirestorm> Hiya
L3[00:01:23] <SoraFirestorm> Is Michiyo around?
L4[00:01:28] <scj643> I am
L5[00:01:42] <SoraFirestorm> so, I wanna double check real fast
L6[00:02:03] <SoraFirestorm> Is there an automated push to Curse from Github for OpenSecurity?
L7[00:02:39] <SoraFirestorm> A build server or something?
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L9[00:04:45] <SoraFirestorm> anyways
L10[00:05:25] <SoraFirestorm> The latest build on Curse for OpenSecurity (whose age coincides with the latest commit to Github)
L11[00:05:36] <SoraFirestorm> still uses switches in the KVM and Hub recipes
L12[00:05:46] <Kodos> SoraFirestorm, check CF
L13[00:05:48] <scj643> What!!!!!!
L14[00:05:54] <Kodos> Latest should have .18 support
L15[00:06:03] <SoraFirestorm> I do have the latest
L16[00:06:09] <SoraFirestorm> 1.0-63
L17[00:06:17] <Kodos> Mimiru, ^
L18[00:06:20] <SoraFirestorm> straight from Curse
L19[00:07:22] <SoraFirestorm> This build being 6 hours old and the commit being 6 hours old isn't a coincidence
L20[00:07:24] <SoraFirestorm> soooo
L21[00:07:55] <SoraFirestorm> I'm running OC 1.5.18.34 btw
L22[00:08:47] <SoraFirestorm> idk if I'm doing something wrong
L23[00:08:48] <SoraFirestorm> or what
L24[00:09:18] <scj643> I'm listening to hotel California
L25[00:09:58] <SoraFirestorm> Is it a lovely place?
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L28[00:11:30] <scj643> Yes it is
L29[00:11:35] <SoraFirestorm> :D
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L31[00:11:44] <SoraFirestorm2> anyways
L32[00:13:19] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/lbdS4ep.png
L33[00:13:58] <scj643> Damon
L34[00:14:03] <scj643> Damn
L35[00:14:35] <scj643> 512 MB but a 3.2 ghz processor
L36[00:14:55] <Izaya> It's a virtual machine
L37[00:15:01] <Izaya> host machine has 16GB
L38[00:15:03] <scj643> Oh
L39[00:15:15] <scj643> That would explain a lot
L40[00:15:17] <Izaya> haiku needs shit-all RAM though
L41[00:15:29] <scj643> What is haiku
L42[00:15:41] <Izaya> An alternative OS
L43[00:15:46] <Izaya> designed for multimedia and stuff
L44[00:15:47] <scj643> Oh
L45[00:15:59] <scj643> Like video playback
L46[00:16:00] <Izaya> It's a BeOS clone mostly
L47[00:16:05] <Izaya> but now it's adding it's own features
L48[00:16:16] <Izaya> yeah the kernel is designed to minimise latency
L49[00:16:26] <Izaya> so like live audio and video work
L50[00:16:37] <scj643> Oh editing not playback
L51[00:16:49] <Izaya> It's also good at playback
L52[00:16:55] <Izaya> dunno if it has subtitles yet though
L53[00:17:02] <Izaya> like I said
L54[00:17:04] <Izaya> low-latency
L55[00:17:11] <Izaya> so anything multimedia works
L56[00:17:15] <scj643> Can it run Kodi
L57[00:17:21] <Izaya> Probably not.
L58[00:17:26] <scj643> Then no
L59[00:17:40] <scj643> Mplayer?
L60[00:17:59] <Izaya> It has an old version of VLC and it's own custom media player
L61[00:18:24] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/g5k8Fz6.png this is pretty cool, it has a control panel for the services
L62[00:18:50] <Izaya> It's partially UNIX-like though
L63[00:18:56] <Izaya> I have vim installed
L64[00:19:01] <Izaya> which is the most important thing, after all
L65[00:19:04] <scj643> I like open elec
L66[00:19:18] <Izaya> meh
L67[00:19:31] <scj643> It runs kodi and that's it
L68[00:19:42] <Izaya> Why not install Kodi on arch then?
L69[00:19:51] <Izaya> And besides, we have a linux box hooked up to the TV anyway
L70[00:20:03] <scj643> For shit systems and to keep on a USB
L71[00:20:25] <scj643> Go to a new system and stream anime from funimation for free on it
L72[00:20:47] <scj643> Also 0 configuration
L73[00:20:51] * Izaya has a .qcow2 with a virtual size of 8GB and a minimal arch system installed on it for the purposes of writing to USB
L74[00:21:03] <Izaya> I'm not a fan of specialised distros in general
L75[00:21:10] <Izaya> Kali Linux seems a little pointless too
L76[00:21:19] <Izaya> why not just get Arch + BlackArch repos?
L77[00:21:20] <scj643> Still in highschool and no income
L78[00:21:31] <Izaya> And?
L79[00:21:33] <scj643> Arch has so many repos
L80[00:21:34] <Izaya> So am I.
L81[00:24:38] <SoraFirestorm2> anyways
L82[00:24:45] <SoraFirestorm2> I'll check back later
L83[00:24:56] <SoraFirestorm2> cya
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L88[01:33:07] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/11AeWHG.png
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L101[02:40:44] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/TejRq10.png
L102[02:40:52] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-09-26_02-40-30.png
L103[02:40:54] * Mimiru shrugs
L104[02:40:59] <Mimiru> it uses a Relay on my end.
L105[02:44:30] <Vexatos> whatsakvm
L106[02:45:10] <Sandra> woo, time to play Garden Of Glass + OC.
L107[02:45:22] <Mimiru> multiple switchable inputs, single output
L108[02:47:31] <Vexatos> Sooo Computronics finally is in a back with ComputerCraft for a change .-.
L109[02:47:49] <Vexatos> in an official technic pack, that is
L110[02:48:19] <Sandra> Do I really need to install TE or buildcraft to make OC run on RF?
L111[02:48:39] <Vexatos> Sandra, no
L112[02:48:45] <Vexatos> just install CoFHLib
L113[02:48:48] <Sandra> oh ok.
L114[02:48:50] <Vexatos> (Not CoFHCore)
L115[02:48:52] <Vexatos> just lib
L116[02:49:04] <Vexatos> http://minecraft.curseforge.com/mc-mods/220333-cofhlib/files
L117[02:49:14] <Sandra> why not core?
L118[02:49:37] <Vexatos> Because core adds things you probably don't want
L119[02:49:42] <Vexatos> lib adds nothing but the API
L120[02:50:13] <Sandra> eh, true.
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L122[02:50:40] <Sandra> ok, so now I've added that, OC will run on RF?
L123[02:50:46] <Vexatos> It should
L124[02:50:54] <Sandra> cool.
L125[02:50:58] <Vexatos> if you place the mana fluxfield adjacently
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L129[03:12:41] <Mimiru> %tell SoraFirestorm OS 64 fixes your issue, seems github was being slow
L130[03:12:42] <MichiBot> Mimiru: SoraFirestorm will be notified of this message when next seen.
L131[03:23:14] <Izaya> so new version that I don't have should have relay instead of switch?
L132[03:23:33] <Mimiru> Build 64 fixes it yes
L133[03:23:37] <Mimiru> blame github.
L134[03:26:35] <Izaya> nvidia-kernel-686-pae:i386 : Depends: nvidia-kernel-3.16.0-4-686-pae:i386 (>= 340.65) but it is not going to be installed
L135[03:26:36] <Izaya> wat
L136[03:34:31] <Turtle> grr, still haven´t been able to pinpoint the fps issue in OC guis I´ve been having, I´ll see if the latest version happens to fix it. (Didn´t see anything graphics related in the patchnotes)
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L138[03:57:13] <Sangar> morni o/
L139[03:57:16] <Sangar> gah
L140[03:57:23] <Sangar> tab-completion you failed me
L141[03:57:25] <Sangar> >_>
L142[03:57:31] <Sangar> anyway, morning o/
L143[03:57:57] <Turtle> o/
L144[04:00:58] <LJack2k> Goodmorning everybody o/
L145[04:03:19] <Sandra> morning Sir Sangar.
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L148[04:06:26] <Sangar> anything interesting i missed the last couple of days?
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L153[04:20:28] <Turtle> Hmh, still having that weird fps issue with OC GUIs, even on the latest version, any known combinations of mods that could do something like it?
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L156[04:21:27] <Sangar> any gui in particular or all of them?
L157[04:21:45] <Turtle> Appears to be most, cases, chargers, not the screen display though.
L158[04:22:22] <ivauno_> ahh its hard program drone
L159[04:22:22] <Turtle> I´m running quite a few of mods and fastcraft, and the issue seems to resolve itself and appear again later, it´s not really gamebreaking or anything, still odd.
L160[04:22:48] <Sangar> so containers it sounds like? might be some nei interaction then?
L161[04:22:59] <Turtle> Could be.
L162[04:23:15] <Sangar> nothing in the logs presumably?
L163[04:23:23] <Turtle> Sadly no, nothing OC related
L164[04:23:33] <Sangar> hohum
L165[04:23:55] <ivauno_> i need insert bios eeprom to my assembled microcontroler D:
L166[04:24:12] <Turtle> craft it with the EEPROM iirc.
L167[04:24:16] <Sangar> ivauno_, sneak-rightclick it with the eeprom (or craft it with it)
L168[04:24:17] <Sangar> yeah
L169[04:24:36] <ivauno_> yes go do this
L170[04:25:15] <Vexatos> Sangar, is there any way to access a database upgrade in a drone from outside the drone?
L171[04:25:24] <Vexatos> I know I can with robots and tablets :P
L172[04:26:04] <Sangar> java side?
L173[04:26:13] <Vexatos> Lua side
L174[04:26:28] <Vexatos> Shocker: I am actually writing OC programs too
L175[04:26:45] <Sangar> how can you for robots and tablets?
L176[04:28:50] <Vexatos> Sangar, tablet=place in charger (Or was that for FSes only)
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L178[04:29:09] <Vexatos> robot=place database in upgrade container and insert/extract using a transposer into an adapter
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L180[04:30:10] <ivauno> help i need configurate eeprom for my drone
L181[04:30:42] <Turtle> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:eeprom Try that
L182[04:31:20] <Turtle> hmh, after disabling nei + nei plugins, I can´t seem to reproduce the bug, but it wasn´t really consistantly reproducable either.
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L184[04:32:37] <Sangar> Vexatos, that was fses only
L185[04:32:52] <Sangar> so yeah, no direct access i don't think
L186[04:33:41] <Sangar> Turtle, i'll try to remember to have a look over the code that does the highlighting in nei some time, it's the only thing that i can think of that'd be other than other inventories
L187[04:34:02] <Vexatos> Sangar, so only robots? ok
L188[04:34:04] <Vexatos> Mhm
L189[04:34:07] <Turtle> Currently enabling just base NEI, it might be an nei addon doing some magic, although I´m not sure.
L190[04:34:14] <Vexatos> guess I'll have to store stuff on the drone then
L191[04:34:22] <Vexatos> OC is an NEI addon
L192[04:34:23] <Vexatos> .-.
L193[04:34:33] <Turtle> well ya, but NEI addons/integration do things to
L194[04:34:41] <Turtle> and I believe inpure core does some culling.
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L196[04:36:18] <Turtle> Yep, got it with base nei + inpure core (And OC of course), oddly enough it occured after I cleared out the search bar, which was set to ´OpenComputers´
L197[04:36:47] <ivauno> MY TABLET LOSED ALL ENERGY FOR USE YES
L198[04:37:43] <Turtle> THERE WE GO, got a consistant reproduction, NEI being on the first page -> Significant loss of fps, NEI showing just the OC items/blocks, No loss of fps whatsoever
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L200[04:43:30] <Turtle> Sangar: I´d say it´s most likely the highlighting code, when the OC items are not all shown on the current page the FPS tanks significanly, Oddly enough, disabling INPureCore (NEI culling) seems to have made the effect worse.
L201[04:44:22] <Turtle> The current workaround seems to be to search for the opencomputers items in NEI, forcing them to be on the same page, ´fixing´ the issue.
L202[04:45:31] <Turtle> Cancel that.
L203[04:45:35] <Turtle> Any search seems to fix the issue.
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L205[04:49:01] <ivauno> how to use hologram projector
L206[04:49:13] <Turtle> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:hologram :P
L207[04:50:09] <ivauno> thanks
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L209[04:54:42] <Sangar> Turtle, hrm, maybe nei gives out all items then, not just the current page or something
L210[04:54:47] <Sangar> i'll look into it
L211[04:55:06] <Turtle> Yeah, it´s a bit odd, for some reason any search seems to fix the issue
L212[04:55:26] <Turtle> and without search, any page seems to cause, or well, not fix it.
L213[04:56:31] <Sangar> does sound like whatever i though would just be the list of items on the current page is the list of all currently 'matched' items then
L214[04:56:40] <Sangar> +t
L215[04:58:11] <Turtle> Could be, I have never looked at the NEI internals
L216[04:59:02] <Sangar> hmm, looking at the code that seems to be the case. problem: what i'd need to limit it are private fields -.-
L217[04:59:03] <Sangar> gah
L218[04:59:10] <Sangar> reflection here i come i guess
L219[05:00:17] <Turtle> Oh dear. xD
L220[05:05:17] <Turtle> That would explain why removing NEI culling made the issue worse.
L221[05:05:30] <Sangar> i suppose
L222[05:05:39] <Sangar> allright, let's see if it still works :X
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L224[05:09:10] <Vexatos> Sangar, that feel when reflection is faster than direct calls for a change
L225[05:09:11] <Vexatos> :P
L226[05:12:15] <Sangar> :X
L227[05:15:00] <Turtle> Well, it´s not really faster if the other option is impossible now is it? :P
L228[05:15:14] <Sangar> Turtle, give the next build a try, should fix it
L229[05:16:55] <Turtle> okay, give me 2 minutes
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L231[05:20:55] <Turtle> Yep, seems to have fixed it, let me disable nei culling again
L232[05:24:58] <Turtle> Sangar: Yep, 100 pages of microblocks and it still runs fine. Highlighting also works
L233[05:28:45] <Sangar> great :)
L234[05:30:59] <Inari> pages?
L235[05:31:04] <Turtle> NEI pages
L236[05:31:30] <Turtle> AE, TE, Forge multipart, BC, it´s a -LOT- of microblocks.
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L238[05:40:46] <ivauno> nanomachines??????????
L239[05:41:05] <Turtle> yeah, those are a thing now
L240[05:41:18] <ivauno> ._.
L241[05:41:20] <Turtle> you need to send them commands via wireless modems, a bit like how you´d use component.invoke, hang on
L242[05:41:40] <ivauno> i eated one
L243[05:41:47] <Turtle> http://ocdoc.cil.li/item:nanomachines
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L245[05:43:54] <Inari> Turtle: can you protect them in some way? :P other than now letting other people get close to you
L246[05:44:43] <Turtle> probably not besides monitoring the active effect and trying to force them off again
L247[05:47:52] <Turtle> actually I suppose listening to messages would be way easier
L248[05:48:26] <Vexatos> yea
L249[05:48:31] <Vexatos> nanomachines always send a response
L250[05:48:35] <Vexatos> when something change
L251[05:48:37] <Vexatos> changes*
L252[05:48:47] <Turtle> I ment listening to someone else broadcasting a message to them, lol
L253[05:48:50] <Turtle> but yeah
L254[05:57:19] <Turtle> ugh. I´m not sure if I want to implement CC´s filesystem by taking every seperate FS besides the main one as a disk, or implement some kind of software raid.
L255[06:01:24] <Vexatos> virtual RAID?
L256[06:03:11] <Turtle> CC only supports one filesystem, so I´d either have to lock it to one HDD/RAID block/etc or implement a virtual raid that merges the various OC filesystems into one CC filesystem.
L257[06:05:10] * Izaya is currently applying a filter to 16384 chunk
L258[06:05:11] <Izaya> s
L259[06:05:23] <Turtle> heh, the bukkit worldgen thingy? :P
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L261[06:10:01] <Turtle> mhm, might leave software raid as a later idea, CC scripts shouldn´t use loads of disk space anyway
L262[06:28:08] <Turtle> http://i.imgur.com/251l1e4.png Praise GC I guess?
L263[06:32:28] <Inari> ~oc adapter
L264[06:32:28] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/block:adapter
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L266[06:39:57] <Temia> CC's filesystems are restricted to 1MB anyway
L267[06:40:01] <Temia> The size of a tier 1 hard disk
L268[06:40:37] <Vexatos> by default
L269[06:40:48] <Temia> Yes, by default.
L270[06:40:56] <Temia> That's kind of implicit
L271[06:42:25] <Turtle> yeah, software raid seems like something best implemented for an OC orientated script/OS, I´ll probably check if the boot medium is not readonly and use that, or find the first non readonly fs if it is.
L272[06:44:47] <Turtle> (CC has a fs.getFreeSpace function, so I could ´technically´ blame the end user if their stuff keeps hitting the fs capacity limit, also relying on default config values sucks)
L273[06:47:24] <Vexatos> I assume you are reimplementing that one too?
L274[06:47:30] <Turtle> easily
L275[06:48:46] <Turtle> return component.invoke(bootAdress, ¨spaceUsed¨) :P
L276[06:49:12] <Turtle> although bootAdress is going to be another variable, the actual fs that is to be used :P
L277[06:50:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, we still need a function to get the max time between yields :3
L278[06:50:57] <Izaya> yaaaaaaaaaaay
L279[06:51:02] <Izaya> I got some life out of the C2D box
L280[06:51:06] <Sangar> no you don't you just need to yield more :P
L281[06:51:08] <Izaya> the first machine in my new beard farm
L282[06:51:23] <Sangar> "beard farm"? o.O
L283[06:51:24] <Vexatos> Sangar, you did see my ugly timeout handler in Selene
L284[06:51:43] <Izaya> Sangar, I will grow my imaginary neckbeard by installing all manner of distros on a number of old towers
L285[06:52:12] <Izaya> http://core0.staticworld.net/images/idge/imported/article/itw/2014/02/12/linux-beards-100520051-orig.jpg
L286[06:52:17] <Vexatos> it is currently hardcoded to 3 seconds >_>
L287[06:52:38] <Sangar> Izaya, i'm amazed ubuntu even has a beard :X
L288[06:52:53] <Sangar> also disappointed fedora doesn't wear one
L289[06:53:18] <Izaya> no, that's the stubble from not showering while attempting to uninstall unity
L290[06:53:27] <Sangar> hahaha
L291[06:54:04] <Vexatos> Linux Mint needs to be on the left
L292[06:54:07] <Vexatos> shaved
L293[06:54:27] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/qgLh1fT.jpg
L294[06:54:28] <Sangar> not a goatee? :P
L295[06:54:45] <Vexatos> the heck is backtrack
L296[06:54:53] <Izaya> kali
L297[06:55:03] <Izaya> Backtrack turned into Kali at some point
L298[06:55:32] <Vexatos> Sangar, the weird thing is that one particular file seems to use a LOT of time being parsed
L299[06:55:50] <Vexatos> and it's really hard to do benchmarking on Lua >_>
L300[06:56:27] <Turtle> Vexatos: Bodge it harder.
L301[06:57:16] <Vexatos> <_<
L302[06:58:17] <Vexatos> tutorialspoint, don't fail me now
L303[06:59:31] <Sandra> Turtle, what are you doing?
L304[06:59:57] <Turtle> Sandra: Working on an OC OS that flawlessly runs CC scripts.
L305[07:00:08] <Sandra> ... :O
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L307[07:00:17] <Sandra> That sounds quite nice.
L308[07:00:44] <Turtle> as far as I´ve checked, the only problem is CC´s heavy use of sides, but that should be workable by throwing enough reflection at it
L309[07:01:29] * Sandra imagines a Turtle throwing mirrors at a computer.
L310[07:02:01] <Vexatos> Turtle, rename yourself to Robot already
L311[07:02:01] <Vexatos> :3
L312[07:02:10] <Turtle> No
L313[07:03:35] <Turtle> uhh.. can I make floppy disks read only somehow?
L314[07:03:54] <Vexatos> yes
L315[07:04:07] <Vexatos> ~w filesystem component
L316[07:04:07] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:filesystem
L317[07:04:26] <Vexatos> uuh
L318[07:04:29] <Vexatos> at least I thought so
L319[07:04:31] <Vexatos> SANGAR
L320[07:04:31] <Turtle> uhh
L321[07:04:34] <Turtle> :P
L322[07:04:55] <Izaya> S3, alive?
L323[07:09:21] <Inari> Vexatos: whys tape drive play so weird
L324[07:09:32] <Vexatos> Inari, because you are doing it wrong, dih
L325[07:09:34] <Vexatos> duh*
L326[07:10:16] <Turtle> if you´re not using it for file storage, use the .wav converter, saves loads of headaches
L327[07:10:18] <Inari> its also super slow to write ;-;
L328[07:10:29] <Inari> oh read can take a byte array
L329[07:10:29] <Inari> psh
L330[07:10:31] <Inari> *write
L331[07:10:52] <Turtle> yeah, convert .wav, get file on computer, read as one string, throw at write
L332[07:10:58] <Turtle> then seek back to the start and play
L333[07:12:35] <Izaya> guys
L334[07:12:36] <Izaya> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aijuboard#/story
L335[07:13:20] <asie> Izaya: i know of the aijuboard
L336[07:13:24] <Turtle> FPGAs are magic if you combine them with machine learning
L337[07:13:26] <asie> he still has three ins tock
L338[07:13:29] <asie> in stock*
L339[07:13:45] <asie> you just need to grab him on irc.freenode.net @ #9front and ask
L340[07:13:47] <asie> $500 tho
L341[07:13:58] <Izaya> I don't have $500
L342[07:14:04] <Izaya> I just thought it was cool
L343[07:14:17] <Izaya> like a machine specifically designed to run Plan 9
L344[07:14:20] <Inari> tapedrive quality so bad
L345[07:14:22] <Inari> but still amazing
L346[07:14:23] <asie> Izaya: it is that, yes
L347[07:14:29] <asie> it's also an ARM chip with a MASSIVE FPGA
L348[07:14:36] <Izaya> It's like PRIME machines or Burroughs Large Systems
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L350[07:14:44] <asie> they implement the SATA controller, the GPU and RAM mapping on it
L351[07:14:48] <asie> the networking too probably
L352[07:14:57] <asie> it's essentially a CPU with a motherboard on anFPGA
L353[07:15:14] <Izaya> PRIME used wizardry and BLS was desiged for high-level languages
L354[07:15:29] <asie> this is just an ARM computer, really
L355[07:15:41] <Izaya> mmm, true enough
L356[07:15:42] <asie> the "designed to run Plan 9" in it means "we control all the hardware so we can make the hardware work with Plan 9 well"
L357[07:16:04] <Izaya> but like, the GPU doing Plan 9's graphics operations CPU-independantly is cool as
L358[07:16:06] <asie> it is probably the closest thing you'll get to a 100% FOSS computer, too
L359[07:16:20] <Izaya> Too bad they're so expensive
L360[07:16:23] <asie> as the only chips on it are the CPU and the massive FPGA
L361[07:16:28] <asie> Izaya: The Zynq chip on it itself is like $200
L362[07:16:34] <asie> and this is made in a run of 15 and manufactured in the USA...
L363[07:16:43] <Izaya> I'd believe it too.
L364[07:16:50] <Izaya> if they were cheaper you could make a cool Plan 9 grid thing
L365[07:16:58] <Inari> why do i have to set playback spee dto 0.5 for it to sound normal
L366[07:17:07] <Inari> wrong sampling rate?
L367[07:17:32] <Izaya> Inari, because you opted for lower quality for more play time?
L368[07:17:46] <Inari> i wasnt given any option for that
L369[07:17:51] <asie> Izaya: technically, Plan 9 runs on an RPi
L370[07:17:53] <Turtle> wouldn´t 0.5 speed imply he´s using more space?
L371[07:17:55] <asie> and supports almost all of its hardwarre
L372[07:18:00] <Inari> *she
L373[07:18:05] <asie> aijuboard is the Plan 9 reference platform more than the sole Plan 9 platform
L374[07:18:07] <asie> it's meant to be the perfect one
L375[07:18:16] <Turtle> my bad
L376[07:18:33] <Inari> not enouhg memory
L377[07:18:33] <Inari> sob
L378[07:18:36] <Izaya> asie, I'll need to take a look at the RPi port, that sounds pretty cool
L379[07:18:38] <Izaya> Turtle, oh true
L380[07:18:45] <Izaya> Higher quality, less play time
L381[07:18:49] <Izaya> oh I don't even know
L382[07:18:55] <Izaya> I can't maths right now
L383[07:18:56] <Turtle> now I´m not sure either
L384[07:19:02] <asie> Izaya: http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.9.2
L385[07:19:15] <asie> the most convienent way is to have an amd64 server serve files to the Pi
L386[07:19:32] <asie> in other cool news... BC is getting an energy system redesign
L387[07:19:49] <Turtle> again? Switching away from RF? :P
L388[07:19:58] <asie> nope!
L389[07:20:02] <asie> but the mechanics are given an overhaul
L390[07:20:04] <asie> 3 changes
L391[07:20:11] <asie> #1 - Breakers! They let you shut off a pipe segment manually
L392[07:20:15] <asie> as in, kinesis pipe
L393[07:20:22] <asie> #2 - Connection Tax! 1 RF per tick per connection.
L394[07:20:26] <asie> 2 RF for gold, 4 RF for diamond.
L395[07:20:32] <asie> This is a replacement for the old "idle power draw" mechanic
L396[07:20:48] <asie> and it serves the purpose of making gameplay more interesting
L397[07:20:59] <Turtle> oh right you work on BC now, ugh I forgot xD
L398[07:21:04] <asie> #3 - Reworked Pipe Overloading, but we still haven't got that one right yet
L399[07:21:12] <asie> also, I fixed uneven energy splits in pipes
L400[07:21:42] * Izaya hrms
L401[07:22:01] <Izaya> Torn between abusing this machine as a virtualization host (another one) or running Haiku and a VNC server on it
L402[07:22:47] <Turtle> Is this still an intended mechanic? http://i.imgur.com/KP5krmX.png
L403[07:23:01] <asie> pipes aren't networks
L404[07:23:07] <asie> if you connect every power pipe to every other power pipe
L405[07:23:09] <asie> they will share power
L406[07:23:11] <asie> it's obvious
L407[07:23:13] <asie> you're creating loops
L408[07:23:19] <Turtle> mind you I might be dumb and not noticed there´s a way to remove pipe connections
L409[07:23:21] <asie> pipe plugs
L410[07:23:23] <Turtle> ... it´s pipe p
L411[07:23:23] <Turtle> yep
L412[07:23:24] <asie> they're cheap now
L413[07:23:30] <Turtle> God damn I´m an idiot.
L414[07:24:18] <Vexatos> ok, IDEA can do benchmarking
L415[07:24:19] <Vexatos> yay?
L416[07:24:23] <Turtle> I keep forgetting those buggers exist lol
L417[07:24:26] <Vexatos> ok soo help
L418[07:24:40] <Inari> you know what this playback makes me wanna do
L419[07:25:01] <Inari> Vexatos: the sound break up a bit when you turn btw :P not sure if thats intentional
L420[07:25:14] <asie> Turtle: too much TD/EIO
L421[07:25:33] <Turtle> nah, just not times I needed them in the past xD
L422[07:26:07] <Inari> hm
L423[07:26:12] <Inari> noone made an internet radio prog yet ;o
L424[07:26:37] <Turtle> don´t those usually use the firehose-of-data UDP?
L425[07:27:27] <Izaya> DFPWM is small enough to not really need it
L426[07:27:50] <Inari> ~oc socket
L427[07:27:50] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-os.clock
L428[07:27:54] <Inari> ~oc internet
L429[07:27:54] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:internet
L430[07:28:06] * Inari shakes Sangar
L431[07:28:09] <Inari> wheres the udp sockets :3
L432[07:29:15] <Turtle> You know UDP might be a VERY BAD IDEA?
L433[07:29:24] <Inari> why
L434[07:29:52] <Turtle> Poke at a timeserver with an OC computer, laugh while the entire server gets DoS´d on it´s own request.
L435[07:30:38] <Inari> sounds like you could do pretty mcuh the same wiht TCP
L436[07:31:12] <Turtle> It´s a bit harder to do, not much though
L437[07:31:32] <Inari> see :D
L438[07:32:11] <Inari> anyway my idea was to connect to an internet radio, convert the data to DFPWM and then distribute for playback
L439[07:33:51] <asie> Inari: convert on OC?
L440[07:33:53] <asie> bad idea
L441[07:33:54] <Inari> ya
L442[07:33:59] <Inari> serverfarm \o/
L443[07:34:24] <Inari> asie: why bad? xD
L444[07:35:02] <Vexatos> ok this is.... uhm
L445[07:35:06] <Vexatos> this is a lot of wth
L446[07:35:51] <Vexatos> Ok
L447[07:35:52] <Vexatos> I see
L448[07:35:56] <Vexatos> this is really really bad
L449[07:35:57] <Vexatos> uhm
L450[07:36:04] <Vexatos> I need help with optimizing the Selene parser
L451[07:36:05] <Vexatos> anyone?
L452[07:36:07] <Vexatos> .-.
L453[07:36:11] <Turtle> uh?
L454[07:36:23] <Turtle> I mean, I can make it even worse if you want
L455[07:37:01] <Vexatos> it's one specific part
L456[07:37:14] <Vexatos> Magik6k, I found out why sandbox.lua in particular takes so long
L457[07:37:16] <Izaya> man, NixOS is all sorts of cool
L458[07:37:34] <Vexatos> My tests on LuaJ showed this
L459[07:37:43] <Vexatos> parsing entity.lua takes 0.02s
L460[07:38:08] <Vexatos> sandbox.lua 0.035 to 0.04
L461[07:38:15] <Vexatos> without the license part, it only takes 0.02
L462[07:38:16] <Vexatos> .-.
L463[07:38:53] <Vexatos> so I guess it is related to the huge multiline comment
L464[07:38:56] <Vexatos> but I have no idea why
L465[07:47:11] <Inari> wonder how quick you can make OC at turnign AAC+ into DFPWM
L466[07:48:47] <Izaya> about as fast as applying a MCEdit filter on 16384 chunks
L467[07:49:12] <Turtle> TCP request to external server to do it, wait for return
L468[07:49:12] <Turtle> :P
L469[07:49:41] <Turtle> ... I wonder if you could connect to the server running the computer
L470[07:49:45] <Turtle> that would be hilarious
L471[07:55:00] <S3> Turtle: why wouldn't you
L472[07:55:15] <Turtle> Because you could spoof being a player and all sorts of shenanigans?
L473[07:55:31] <S3> You can't connect to localhost but your can connect to its ip
L474[07:57:06] <S3> Good luck recreating Minecraft's suite inefficient wrongly implemented protocol
L475[07:57:16] <S3> Super*
L476[07:57:25] <Turtle> heh fair enough
L477[07:57:54] <S3> But OCBSD might bring you something more fun
L478[07:58:30] <S3> I'm building a global network like ARPANET for OC that can connect servers together
L479[07:58:55] <Turtle> oh, neat
L480[07:59:17] <Turtle> regarding those things, we really should get some standardization for the various computer mods
L481[07:59:20] <S3> Using vATM/STM. It provides up to 160KB/s nmc
L482[07:59:24] <S3> In mc*
L483[07:59:45] <S3> Easy more than enough
L484[07:59:56] <S3> Way. Damn phone
L485[08:00:22] <Turtle> yeah, 160KB/s is probably more than OC can sustainably handle
L486[08:00:32] <S3> Well that's maximum
L487[08:01:24] <S3> What is great about it is that unless there's over 261 connections at the same time or so nobody is waiting for their packet to be sent
L488[08:01:32] <Turtle> :P
L489[08:01:38] *** Ekoserin|Off is now known as Ekoserin
L490[08:02:14] <S3> smSTM send s up to 261 packets at r same time by interlacing them all n vertical columns in the same frame
L491[08:02:35] <S3> And we have 8KB frames
L492[08:02:48] <Vexatos> seriously, what the fish is going on
L493[08:02:54] <S3> ?
L494[08:03:54] <Turtle> still working on FS api .-.
L495[08:04:04] <S3> Why?
L496[08:04:30] <Turtle> Cloning CC´s OS/Enviroment as an OC OS so you can run CC scripts on OC computers
L497[08:04:31] <S3> Hehe. OCBSD runs on unmanaged disks and will run faster than openos
L498[08:05:40] <S3> But I need to add a variable for syscyl so that you can configure how many sectors to cache
L499[08:05:55] <S3> Sysctl*
L500[08:06:27] <S3> With that most disk operations will operate on memory
L501[08:06:49] <Izaya> that's fucking shiny
L502[08:07:04] <Izaya> S3, is BSD easier or harder than gentoo?
L503[08:07:17] <S3> IMO much easier
L504[08:07:28] <S3> But that's just an opinion.
L505[08:07:33] <Izaya> http://core0.staticworld.net/images/idge/imported/article/itw/2014/02/12/linux-beards-100520051-orig.jpg so less of a beard?
L506[08:07:34] <S3> Ask vifino what he thinks of it
L507[08:07:42] * Izaya pokes vifino
L508[08:07:53] <Izaya> Oh, detached
L509[08:08:16] <S3> FreeBSD has a much more memory efficient kernel
L510[08:08:26] <S3> And it handles networking better
L511[08:08:49] <S3> Probably because of the first
L512[08:08:59] <Izaya> well, considering that TCP/IP support was in BSD pretty much first
L513[08:09:22] <S3> BSD is a lot older
L514[08:09:48] <Izaya> Original BSD was on a PDP-11, right?
L515[08:09:50] <Izaya> 1BSD
L516[08:09:57] <S3> It's a 1:1 clone of at&t UNIX from the days keen Thompson spent at berkely
L517[08:10:04] <S3> No idea
L518[08:10:41] <S3> FreeBSD and netbsd were the split off of BSD clubs
L519[08:11:08] <S3> Then openbsd forked from netbsd later
L520[08:11:34] <S3> They are all pretty much forks of 4.4 BSD though
L521[08:11:53] <Izaya> I know either FreeBSD or OpenBSD is a 386BSD fork
L522[08:12:13] <S3> Yeah I forgot all about that
L523[08:13:37] * Izaya likes his history
L524[08:13:37] <Sandra> Berkerley Software Distribution.
L525[08:13:41] <Izaya> So here's my understanding:
L526[08:13:47] <Izaya> Unix v6 licensed to universities
L527[08:14:06] <Izaya> 1BSD is just a bunch of programs for Unix v6
L528[08:14:13] <Izaya> 2BSD is based on Unix v7, and is an actual OS
L529[08:14:28] <Izaya> between that and 1992 it gets a bit fuzzy for me, I know it ran on VAXen though
L530[08:14:40] <Izaya> 1992 I think it gets ported to i386
L531[08:14:44] <S3> Heh
L532[08:14:44] <Izaya> Hence 386BSD
L533[08:15:05] <Izaya> Either FreeBSD or OpenBSD comes from that
L534[08:15:07] <Izaya> don't remember which
L535[08:15:20] <Izaya> and now we have a few BSD-based OSes
L536[08:15:25] <Izaya> although
L537[08:15:32] <Izaya> around the time of 386BSD
L538[08:15:46] <Izaya> they wrote all the AT&T-owned code
L539[08:15:50] <Izaya> re-wrote
L540[08:15:52] <S3> Either way BSD is pretty much a father of most our machines today even if not DNA related. Because UNIX was proprietary and BSD sorry of released that
L541[08:16:09] <S3> Sort of*
L542[08:16:13] <S3> Not sorry lol
L543[08:16:45] <Izaya> The TCP/IP stack in 2BSD was small enough to run on a PDP-11
L544[08:16:51] <S3> Heh
L545[08:17:05] <Izaya> And I'm pretty sure Linux, Windows, and Mac OS 1910 all use at least part of it
L546[08:17:42] <S3> OCBSD's first protocols will be ATM and STM :)
L547[08:18:04] <S3> Should decrease or networking headaches
L548[08:18:12] <S3> Our*
L549[08:18:37] <Izaya> Considering how relaus are super powerful now
L550[08:18:49] <Izaya> like they can transparently use linked cards
L551[08:19:09] <Izaya> I was thinking I'd just have some form of name resolution for OC-ITS
L552[08:19:12] <S3> How does that work
L553[08:19:28] <S3> Oc-its?
L554[08:19:52] <Izaya> https://github.com/XeonSquared/OC-ITS
L555[08:20:07] <Izaya> Haven't done much work recently
L556[08:20:19] <S3> Huh
L557[08:20:29] <S3> Parallelism based platform for oc?
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L559[08:21:17] <Izaya> Well, the idea was to have a multitasking OS that could dump all of the compatibility stuff
L560[08:21:27] <S3> Ic
L561[08:21:29] <Izaya> Make an OS like I want it
L562[08:21:38] <Izaya> Not how everyone else has done it for the sake of compatibility
L563[08:21:47] <S3> Ocbsd will be huge probably but it will have kernel modules
L564[08:21:48] <Izaya> But I'm not really up to writing anything right now
L565[08:21:55] <S3> And most everything will be in modules
L566[08:22:21] <Inari> i wish we had more control over how long a coroutine runs and suhc
L567[08:22:34] <S3> Yeah...
L568[08:23:29] <S3> The scheduler in ocbsd plans is supposed to return to the prices as soon as possible
L569[08:23:38] <S3> To process*
L570[08:23:59] <S3> I had some corruptive compatible algorithm or
L571[08:24:06] <S3> Out*
L572[08:24:19] <S3> Coroutine's wtf
L573[08:24:26] <S3> This phone.
L574[08:24:35] <Izaya> turn off autocorrect
L575[08:24:47] <S3> No it would be worse
L576[08:25:16] <S3> And it's actually swipe that's not calibrated yet more than autocorrect
L577[08:25:53] <S3> It lets me swipe lol now though that I've been training the dictionary
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L579[08:48:20] <Turtle> Is there a sane way for a script to determine if it is running on a tablet or not?
L580[08:49:23] <S3> IMO it shouldn't matter. You can instead make your adjustments to the resolution.
L581[08:51:26] <Turtle> yeah, for OC it doesn´t matter, but CC pocket computers have a way of checking, lots of code wouldn´t be very relevant, and could be ignored to save ram
L582[08:51:32] <Turtle> I guess load-on-demand would fix that issue somewhat
L583[08:51:39] <Mimiru> Turtle, sorta one second
L584[08:51:56] <Mimiru> if component.isAvailable("tablet")
L585[08:52:08] <Turtle> tablets have a component? TIL. xD
L586[08:52:09] <Mimiru> so scrape the sorta, yes.
L587[08:52:34] <Mimiru> http://git.io/vnheC lol
L588[08:53:14] <Turtle> good, then I won´t need to have ´pocket´ exist on all computers :P
L589[08:53:27] <Turtle> and allows for a dirty dirty dirty bypass of ¨back¨ -> Modem
L590[08:53:27] <Turtle> :P
L591[08:54:11] <Turtle> lol, CC pocket computers can fit in OC drives, woo xD
L592[08:55:48] <S3> Checking for tablet or robot etc is one step to platform dependent code
L593[08:56:52] <Turtle> it is, but I need a sane way to deal with most of CC´s legacy code
L594[08:56:53] <vifino> ohai people
L595[08:57:19] <Turtle> being able to determine if a system is supposed to be a pocket computer will help immensively with the peripheral side reflection
L596[08:57:50] <S3> ...
L597[08:58:04] <S3> You know ocbsd will also support CC
L598[08:58:04] <Turtle> Did I miss the point?
L599[08:58:12] <Turtle> I know, don´t care :P
L600[08:58:25] <S3> And the way it does it is by using io busses :)
L601[08:58:32] <Turtle> oh?
L602[08:58:33] <Skye> eh?
L603[09:01:02] <Turtle> ¨The Angry Birds Movie¨ THIS IS GOING TO EXIST? OH GOD WHY.
L604[09:01:21] <S3> Yep. If you have occo.lua as a module (which is included ) it will register a "component" bus in the io bus subsystem. Much like a PCI bus. In cc, there is no babe yet but a peripheral bus module will be available. Both of which are generally used the same exact way despite that each bus type has their extra dependant features you can also use
L605[09:01:41] <S3> No name yet*
L606[09:01:45] <Turtle> S3 and that is going to let CC scripts run on OC... how?
L607[09:03:24] <S3> If you want to run cc scripts on OCBSD you are going to need a simple abstraction layer that handles peripheral stuff in /sys and/or /dev
L608[09:04:36] <S3> It may also need to use ioctl
L609[09:04:56] <Turtle> you know that rendering and stuff is also completely different?
L610[09:04:58] <S3> But it is the same for openos scripts.
L611[09:05:09] <S3> Openos scripts will not work without one
L612[09:05:39] <Vexatos> wooop
L613[09:05:42] <Vexatos> I think I fixed it
L614[09:05:50] <S3> If you mean on the screen that doesn't matter because ocbsd has a vty driver and ptys
L615[09:06:24] <S3> The abstraction later talked care of translation.
L616[09:06:34] <Turtle> uhh... good luck I guess
L617[09:06:53] <gamax92> Turtle: ccemu.lua for OC :3
L618[09:07:00] <Turtle> uh?
L619[09:07:12] <gamax92> letting CC scripts run on OC
L620[09:07:23] <Turtle> oh, yeah, OC isn´t ´vanilla´ lua either though
L621[09:07:39] <gamax92> uhh, yes it very much is
L622[09:08:54] <S3> Just because oc runs a modified lua doesn't mean it's not vanilla lua.
L623[09:09:09] <gamax92> how is it modified lua besides attaching eris to it?
L624[09:09:10] <S3> The code is the same
L625[09:09:25] <Turtle> pretty sure rendering and io stuff is missing
L626[09:09:32] <Turtle> those are easily patchable, but still
L627[09:10:01] <gamax92> well no shit, sandbox reasons
L628[09:10:25] <gamax92> not to mention OpenOS adds most of what was removed back in.
L629[09:12:07] <Turtle> still, I´m not entirely convinced it´ll just run on OpenOS
L630[09:12:14] <Turtle> (Isn´t it also like... quite a bit outdated now? :P)
L631[09:12:30] <gamax92> ccemu supports CC 1.73 atm
L632[09:12:42] <Turtle> oh then my google-fu is weak today
L633[09:12:59] <Turtle> (I hadn´t looked at it in a while)
L634[09:13:16] <CompanionCube> rekt?
L635[09:13:23] <gamax92> https://github.com/gamax92/OCScriptDev/blob/master/ccemu/ccemu.lua
L636[09:15:08] <Turtle> hmh, interesting
L637[09:18:37] <Turtle> wait, how does that deal with peripherals?
L638[09:19:50] <S3> Black magic
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L640[09:20:38] <vifino> I miss Lizzy ._.
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L642[09:21:31] <Turtle> I am blind and cannot read comments; it doesn´t.
L643[09:22:08] <S3> Vifino: what did you say to her?
L644[09:22:16] <S3> :P
L645[09:22:25] <vifino> What.
L646[09:22:38] <vifino> Oh, wait, was it a breakup joke?
L647[09:22:42] <S3> Lol
L648[09:22:46] <S3> Slow
L649[09:23:00] <vifino> Yeah, I don't get stupid jokes all that well.
L650[09:23:52] <S3> Heh
L651[09:24:46] <S3> Knock knock
L652[09:24:54] <LJack2k> whos there?
L653[09:25:05] <S3> Predictive branching.
L654[09:25:14] <vifino> Your mo- Or that.
L655[09:26:30] <vifino> \o/ Lizzy is okay! \o/
L656[09:26:34] * vifino waits
L657[09:33:06] <gamax92> * Disconnected (An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine)
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L659[09:37:04] <Vexatos> sooo
L660[09:37:17] <vifino> ooos
L661[09:37:18] <Vexatos> I just made Selene twice as fast in certain cases ;_;
L662[09:37:30] <vifino> isselenefastyet.com
L663[09:37:45] <vifino> curl http://isselenefastyet.com/
L664[09:37:47] <vifino> NO.
L665[09:37:47] <gamax92> okay wtf
L666[09:37:49] <gamax92> it happened again
L667[09:38:01] <S3> ?
L668[09:38:47] <Vexatos> Magik6k ^
L669[09:38:48] <Vexatos> .-.
L670[09:39:29] <vifino> Vexatos: what's the overhead like?
L671[09:39:32] <vifino> none?
L672[09:39:39] <vifino> or all the overheads?
L673[09:40:16] <gamax92> vifino help
L674[09:40:31] <vifino> help how
L675[09:40:31] <Vexatos> vifino, well
L676[09:40:42] <Vexatos> on LuaJ (i.e. ComputerCraft) it's 0.02 seconds
L677[09:40:48] <vifino> per whaaat
L678[09:40:50] <Vexatos> for a 500-line file
L679[09:40:59] <vifino> fair enough
L680[09:41:07] <gamax92> vifino: I'll show you a log
L681[09:41:40] <vifino> gamax92: oke.
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L684[09:50:53] <S3> Gamax I'm excited because I'm implementing STM
L685[09:51:13] <S3> And sitting ATM on top
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L689[10:07:08] <Turtle> welp, time to implement disk mounting
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L695[10:23:14] <Magik6k> Vexatos, wai
L696[10:24:45] <Vexatos> Magik6k, I fixed entity .-.
L697[10:25:02] <Vexatos> Like, sandbox.lua took so long because of the multi-line strings in it
L698[10:25:05] <Vexatos> I fixed that
L699[10:25:06] <Vexatos> .-.
L700[10:25:22] <Magik6k> lel
L701[10:25:31] * Magik6k pokes Kubuxu
L702[10:31:21] <Kubuxu> huh????
L703[10:31:39] <vifino> ?!?!?!
L704[10:32:14] <Kubuxu> Vexatos, Magik6k ??
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L706[11:20:27] <Ekoserin> Hey.
L707[11:20:37] <LJack2k> hello
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L710[11:35:26] <MajGenRelativity> Hi Ekoserin
L711[11:36:01] <Ekoserin> I have 500-1000 ping in Rainbow Six: Siege. Damn.
L712[11:36:07] <Ekoserin> And... kicked.
L713[11:36:10] <MajGenRelativity> lol
L714[11:37:39] <Ekoserin> Tried to join again, got even worse. 1.5k.
L715[11:40:02] <MajGenRelativity> what's the difference between managed and unmanaged on a HDD?
L716[11:40:13] <Inari> OC is making handling items such a pain :P well at least autocrafting doesnt often need to read nbt tags
L717[11:41:09] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmMxz4cMKuc
L718[11:41:09] <MichiBot> Lizzy: The Bitch Fight of Canary Wharf | length 3m 1s | Likes: 831 Dislikes: 8 Views: 34681 | by Joe Vevers
L719[11:43:28] <Inari> curretnly my plan is to store items as just tables.. with a key of an id that is item.name .. ":" .. item.damage and if it hasTags then it also stores the databaseaddress, computed hash for the item and which slot of the address its in
L720[11:51:38] <MajGenRelativity> Anybody know how to work the chat box from Computronics?
L721[11:51:43] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos perhaps?
L722[11:51:56] <Inari> "how to work"?
L723[11:52:05] <MajGenRelativity> I want to know how to send a chat message
L724[11:52:21] <Inari> http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics:chat_box ?
L725[11:52:35] <MajGenRelativity> I saw that
L726[11:52:40] <MajGenRelativity> what do i need to require though?
L727[11:52:43] <Inari> so.. use that?
L728[11:52:48] <Inari> nothing, you just use the component P
L729[11:52:50] <Inari> * :P
L730[11:52:58] <MajGenRelativity> local chatbox = component.chatbox?
L731[11:53:14] <Inari> dunno what its name is.. migth be chat_box and dunno if its set as a standard component
L732[11:53:17] <Inari> try
L733[11:53:22] <MajGenRelativity> ok
L734[11:53:26] <Inari> local chatbox = component.proxy(component.list("chat")())
L735[11:54:52] <MajGenRelativity> I did local chat_box = component.chat_box, and then just chat_box.say("hello")
L736[11:54:54] <MajGenRelativity> it worked
L737[11:55:06] <Ekoserin> What a surprise.
L738[11:55:10] <Inari> that works too :P mostly since openOS sets that+
L739[11:55:24] <Inari> hm which version added unmanaged drives
L740[11:57:32] <Vexatos> Sangar...
L741[11:57:44] <gamax92> ...ragnaS
L742[11:59:26] <Inari> omg
L743[11:59:40] <Inari> sangar is secretely ragna(ro)s
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L750[12:16:41] <MajGenRelativity> I used a bad situation to improve my throne room significantly
L751[12:16:55] <LJack2k> creeper?
L752[12:17:48] <Inari> who are you throning over?
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L754[12:18:16] <MajGenRelativity> I set nether ores to create an explosion of 14 power
L755[12:18:25] <MajGenRelativity> the wither summoning, which used to be the biggest, was 7
L756[12:18:36] <MajGenRelativity> needless to say, it cleared a big room out of netherrack
L757[12:19:43] <MajGenRelativity> Inari, your question is not the point
L758[12:19:46] <MajGenRelativity> I just want a throne
L759[12:21:16] <LJack2k> https://imgur.com/VF15AKI
L760[12:22:31] <MajGenRelativity> solid
L761[12:22:54] <LJack2k> Ore processing and turbines
L762[12:23:09] <LJack2k> and soon a mek fusion reactor
L763[12:25:44] <MajGenRelativity> mek?
L764[12:25:50] <LJack2k> mekanism
L765[12:28:21] <MajGenRelativity> ok
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L768[12:35:33] <MajGenRelativity> time to work on my actual throne now
L769[12:36:56] <MajGenRelativity> let's see, impossible objects out of expensive materials, check
L770[12:37:09] <MajGenRelativity> now, for the self-igniting fire, and for the incense stands
L771[12:37:15] <Inari> new mod iidea
L772[12:37:31] <Inari> if any tileentity throw a div by zero error or null pointer exception it is replaed with a black hole
L773[12:38:16] <Ekoserin> What?
L774[12:38:32] <MajGenRelativity> brilliant
L775[12:38:40] <MajGenRelativity> like a Thaumcraft hungry node, but way stronger
L776[12:38:46] <MajGenRelativity> it can eat bedrock
L777[12:39:48] <Ekoserin> And players.
L778[12:43:40] <S3> Majgenrelativity
L779[12:44:46] <S3> My is used unmanaged drives. They can be faster than managed drives
L780[12:45:46] <S3> My os uses
L781[12:47:41] <MajGenRelativity> ok
L782[12:47:43] <MajGenRelativity> what is your os?
L783[12:50:40] <Turtle> Does the 3D printer support animated textures?
L784[12:51:18] <Turtle> (Guessing from the way textures are handled it would)
L785[12:53:04] <Izaya> guys help
L786[12:53:12] <Izaya> what should I call my new nixos box?
L787[12:53:24] <LJack2k> sonix
L788[12:53:33] <Turtle> Richard?
L789[12:53:42] <LJack2k> Wilhem
L790[12:53:48] <LJack2k> Arthur
L791[12:53:53] <Lilly_Satou> Jens Stoltenberg
L792[12:53:58] <Izaya> ArthurPendragon
L793[12:53:59] <Turtle> (I was trying to make a Nixon joke, it seems to have failed)
L794[12:54:00] <Izaya> yep
L795[12:54:07] <Izaya> Turtle, OH, that makes sense
L796[12:54:16] <Izaya> I was actually considering calling it nixon
L797[12:54:19] <Lilly_Satou> JEG BEKLAGER
L798[12:54:23] <Izaya> but it doesn't fit with my naming scheme
L799[12:54:25] <Turtle> Richard Nixos, do it.
L800[12:54:39] <LJack2k> its finnal now
L801[12:54:42] <LJack2k> final*
L802[12:54:54] <Izaya> fuck it, this install is just a test, why not? :D
L803[12:55:48] <Izaya> installing with the hostname RichardNixos
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L805[13:00:05] <Turtle> Does OpenOS support mounting within a mount?
L806[13:00:59] <Izaya> like mounting a filesystem
L807[13:01:04] <Izaya> inside another mounted filesystem?
L808[13:01:12] <Izaya> because / is a mount
L809[13:01:48] <Turtle> well, yeah, I was just wondering if it does handle any deeper than that
L810[13:02:03] <Izaya> yeah
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L812[13:02:05] <Turtle> currently writing a simple mounting implementation to let CC programs deal with disks in a sane way
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L814[13:02:17] <Izaya> if it didn't we'd have quite the issue
L815[13:02:37] <Turtle> just doing it single level + ¨main¨ filesystem, as it´s much simpler to implement
L816[13:02:45] <Izaya> yeah
L817[13:02:50] <Izaya> I did that for OC-ITS
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L820[13:02:55] <Izaya> but I want to fix that at some point
L821[13:02:59] <Turtle> any specific reason you´d need to mount in a mount other than / ?
L822[13:03:26] <Izaya> so I can have / on a floppy and my /usr on a RAID?
L823[13:03:33] <Izaya> so I can have /home/ on a RAID?
L824[13:03:55] <Izaya> so I can have a scratch dir anywhere, not just /tmp/
L825[13:03:56] <Turtle> I guess?
L826[13:04:13] <Turtle> but that´s still one main system and direct children
L827[13:04:19] <Turtle> nvm
L828[13:04:22] <Turtle> am dumb and can´t read
L829[13:08:48] <Turtle> and there we go, basic mounting implemented
L830[13:19:33] <Turtle> \o/ automounting works
L831[13:21:31] <Izaya> \:D/ NixOS installed
L832[13:26:19] <Turtle> ... why do I have multi-level mounting
L833[13:26:24] <Turtle> I just need to mount in /
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L837[13:43:27] <Turtle> http://i.imgur.com/RjM0bdv.png \o/
L838[13:44:38] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/w5EvWoM.png say hi to RichardNixos
L839[13:45:20] <Turtle> :P
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L841[13:49:46] <mfernflower> hello wll
L842[13:49:50] <mfernflower> *all
L843[13:49:54] <Izaya> hai
L844[13:49:57] <Ekoserin> Hey.
L845[13:51:11] <Turtle> oooh. CC disk drives work as filesystems right away
L846[13:51:22] <Turtle> now I feel extra smug for the mounting to work perfectly
L847[13:51:55] <Izaya> can I move servers using turtles or drones?
L848[13:52:10] <Izaya> actually, better question:
L849[13:52:16] <mfernflower> what parts of cc can be used w/ oc
L850[13:52:26] <Izaya> can I put stuff in servers using drones or robots?
L851[13:52:37] <Turtle> probably.
L852[13:52:44] <Turtle> I´m in a creative world, hang on
L853[13:52:52] <Izaya> Like I could do a physical cloud with towers
L854[13:52:57] <Izaya> but that doesn't seem efficient
L855[13:53:08] <Izaya> too many switches
L856[13:53:16] <mfernflower> can i talk over cc wireless modems w/ oc?
L857[13:53:25] <Turtle> Itemducts work, turtles/robots should
L858[13:53:32] <Izaya> I think if you use an adaptor you can, mfernflower
L859[13:53:39] <Turtle> mfernflower, uhh, I can test for you in a sec
L860[13:53:55] <mfernflower> how do you use CC diskdrives
L861[13:54:10] * Izaya is totally not going to try to replicate scaleway with a physical cloud
L862[13:54:30] <Izaya> mfernflower, you can put a CC disk in an OC floppy disk drive
L863[13:54:53] <mfernflower> you guys got a server? also neat
L864[13:54:56] <Turtle> you can do that, but CC disk drives work via the adapter too
L865[13:55:29] <Izaya> maybe I should set up proper network boot for uCs
L866[13:55:35] <Izaya> allocate them
L867[13:55:41] <Turtle> CC wireless modems do NOT work on the adapter
L868[13:56:05] <mfernflower> izaya are you on s publiv server
L869[13:56:10] <Izaya> no
L870[13:56:18] <Izaya> not even in MC
L871[13:56:18] <mfernflower> ahh ok
L872[13:56:49] <Turtle> I´m in a single player creative world to dev
L873[13:57:05] <mfernflower> i see
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L876[14:00:18] <Turtle> working on a OC operating system that fully runs CC scripts :P
L877[14:03:56] <mfernflower> cool
L878[14:04:39] <Turtle> (Gamax is working on something similar too I believe)
L879[14:09:19] <vifino> Yes, he is. Before you started, Turtle.
L880[14:09:22] <vifino> ccemu.
L881[14:09:39] <Turtle> ik, his work is not going to be an OS I believe though
L882[14:09:45] <Turtle> so both things are going to be different.
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L891[14:20:45] <mrwonderful2012> hi
L892[14:21:32] <mrwonderful2012> does opencomputers properly model stuff like buffer overflows?
L893[14:22:28] <Dashkal> That's not really a thing in the Lua VM. I think there's an arch that's deeper that could be subject to that.
L894[14:23:34] <mrwonderful2012> so stack overflows or buffer overflows would not work in opencomputers
L895[14:23:55] <Dashkal> Not that I'm aware of, no.
L896[14:24:06] <Dashkal> Stack maybe, but that just crashes the progrma
L897[14:24:16] <Dashkal> I think Lua is stack based, so in theory possible.
L898[14:24:17] <Turtle> Those do not exist, once you run out of ram the computer crashes, and gives an ¨Out of memory¨ error
L899[14:24:20] <Dashkal> Buffer overflow just isn't a thing
L900[14:24:45] <mrwonderful2012> that's a shame
L901[14:25:29] <Dashkal> That's... Ok, that's new. Usually people aren't disappointed at a lack of bugs.
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L903[14:25:52] <mrwonderful2012> what if it overflows a data type but not the system memory
L904[14:26:10] <Dashkal> All numerics are doubles.
L905[14:26:17] <Dashkal> "overflowing" a string is an out of memory failure
L906[14:26:27] <mrwonderful2012> shoot
L907[14:26:35] <Turtle> You´ll hit the default 32/64bit numberic overflow issues
L908[14:26:50] <Dashkal> Lua just loops around, right? Not sure on that one.
L909[14:27:02] <Turtle> dunno
L910[14:27:29] <mrwonderful2012> if it loops around, couldn't you enter a string that loops the the null character
L911[14:27:44] <Dashkal> Someone was working on an arch you could compile C to, which would be subject to all the bugs you're pining for. But Lua just doesn't have those problems.
L912[14:27:46] <mrwonderful2012> to the
L913[14:28:08] <Turtle> Uhhh
L914[14:28:31] <Turtle> on the lua demo pages 2^350 still works without wraparound
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L916[14:28:45] <Turtle> 2^350 -> 1.146749307995e+105
L917[14:28:51] <Dashkal> Huh, expanding type then
L918[14:28:58] <Dashkal> In that case it'll be subject to the same out of memory a string would
L919[14:29:16] <Turtle> up to 1024 works
L920[14:29:20] <Turtle> lemme see how far I can push it
L921[14:29:22] <Dashkal> This is easy enough to look up, mrwonderful2012. The Lua VM is well documented.
L922[14:29:50] <Turtle> okay there is a cap
L923[14:29:50] <mrwonderful2012> ok
L924[14:30:21] <Turtle> it´s 2^1023
L925[14:30:31] <Turtle> 2^1024 defaults to infinity.
L926[14:31:58] <scj643> I'm alive
L927[14:32:17] <vifino> Lies.
L928[14:32:49] <scj643> /me slaps vifino with a bass
L929[14:33:24] <gamax92> #lua VERSION
L930[14:33:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L931[14:33:30] <gamax92> vifino: halp
L932[14:33:43] <vifino> #resetlua
L933[14:33:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Sandbox Reset!
L934[14:33:46] <gamax92> #lua VERSION
L935[14:33:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L936[14:33:48] <vifino> #lua _VERSION
L937[14:33:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Lua 5.3 Sandbox
L938[14:33:51] <gamax92> oh ...
L939[14:33:52] <gamax92> >_>
L940[14:33:59] <gamax92> #lua string.pack
L941[14:33:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7fd5685019a0
L942[14:35:28] <gamax92> #lua string.unpack(">d", string.char(0x7f,0xef,0xff,0xff,0xff,0xff,0xff,0xff))
L943[14:35:28] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.7976931348623e+308 | 9
L944[14:35:51] <mrwonderful2012> #lua version
L945[14:35:56] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L946[14:36:08] <mrwonderful2012> #resetlua
L947[14:36:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Sandbox Reset!
L948[14:36:19] <mrwonderful2012> print "x"
L949[14:36:30] <mrwonderful2012> #help
L950[14:36:47] <mrwonderful2012> test
L951[14:36:50] <mrwonderful2012> #test
L952[14:36:53] * gamax92 slaps mrwonderful2012, staph
L953[14:36:53] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L954[14:37:11] <mrwonderful2012> #replacedump
L955[14:37:17] <mrwonderful2012> #replacedump a
L956[14:37:17] <gamax92> mrwonderful2012
L957[14:37:19] <gamax92> staph
L958[14:37:23] <mrwonderful2012> what?
L959[14:37:42] <gamax92> wat r u doin
L960[14:37:44] <gamax92> staph
L961[14:38:12] <mrwonderful2012> I am trying to figure out what these # commands are doing
L962[14:38:26] <mrwonderful2012> #pragma once
L963[14:38:31] <Turtle> Having a poor choice of prefix, that´s what they´re doing :P
L964[14:38:40] <mrwonderful2012> ok
L965[14:39:04] <mrwonderful2012> #lua version
L966[14:39:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L967[14:39:15] <mrwonderful2012> #lua_version
L968[14:39:23] <Dashkal> Would you please do that in a /query with the bot?
L969[14:39:30] <mrwonderful2012> ok
L970[14:39:48] <mrwonderful2012> how do you do that?
L971[14:39:58] <Turtle> if it´s a well designed bot you can just pm it
L972[14:40:00] <Dashkal> Check the manual for your irc client
L973[14:40:15] <mrwonderful2012> I can pm it
L974[14:40:39] <Turtle> I ment that as, if it´s well designed it´ll respond when you pm it
L975[14:40:48] <mrwonderful2012> yeah it does
L976[14:41:03] <Turtle> Spam in the pm, not in the channel, it´s a bit cleaner :P
L977[14:41:03] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L978[14:41:07] <mrwonderful2012> sorry
L979[14:41:28] <gamax92> Turtle: 1.7976931348623e+308
L980[14:41:58] <Turtle> gamax92, yeah, I know, most 64 bit sci-notation crap out above that
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L982[14:43:28] <gamax92> probably because the precision at such ranges are really really low
L983[14:43:42] <gamax92> #lua string.unpack(">d", string.char(0x7f,0xef,0xff,0xff,0xff,0xff,0xff,0xfe))
L984[14:43:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.7976931348623e+308 | 9
L985[14:43:53] <gamax92> >_> this is the same number
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L987[14:46:48] <Vexatos> So I have made a new mod http://gfycat.com/CreativeVelvetyGermanwirehairedpointer
L988[14:46:50] <Vexatos> .-.
L989[14:47:52] <scj643> Go watch a certain scientific railgun
L990[14:49:16] <Ekoserin> Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep.
L991[14:49:41] <Turtle> gamax92, nah, above that it runs out of bits
L992[14:49:50] <gamax92> scj643: I've already watched this
L993[14:49:52] <Vexatos> s/eep/ees/g
L994[14:49:52] <Kibibyte> <Ekoserin> Bees. Bees. Bees. Bees. Bees.
L995[14:49:54] <Vexatos> :3
L996[14:49:55] <gamax92> XD
L997[14:49:58] <Vexatos> soon(tm)
L998[14:50:04] <scj643> 。
L999[14:50:19] <scj643> びりびり
L1000[14:51:08] <Vexatos> >_>_>
L1001[14:51:28] <gamax92> />_<~>_<\
L1002[14:51:39] <Vexatos> o_O-°
L1003[14:53:24] <scj643> びりびり is biri biri which is the onamoniapia for electricity
L1004[14:53:43] <scj643> In japanise
L1005[14:55:50] <Vexatos> onomatopoeia :P
L1006[14:56:33] <scj643> How do you expect me to spell that
L1007[14:56:37] <gamax92> ahnamanapiya
L1008[14:56:39] <vifino> Turtle: >poor choice of prefix
L1009[14:56:45] <vifino> Poor choice of prefix my ass.
L1010[14:56:52] <vifino> # is close to enter.
L1011[14:56:59] <Turtle> uh...
L1012[14:57:01] <vifino> so its perfect for me.
L1013[14:57:05] <Turtle> Your choice of keyboard is poor /s
L1014[14:57:16] <Turtle> but srsly, #ChannelNameNotACommand
L1015[14:57:36] <vifino> #whocaresnotme
L1016[14:57:47] <gamax92> keyboard styles and layouts are also a region thing
L1017[14:57:49] <scj643> .fuck
L1018[14:57:57] <scj643> Lol
L1019[14:57:57] <Turtle> gamax92, hence the /s
L1020[14:58:30] <gamax92> I knew that /s
L1021[14:59:35] <vifino> s/\/s/\/!\\ SARCASM HERE \/!\\/
L1022[14:59:35] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> I knew that /!\ SARCASM HERE /!\
L1023[15:00:53] <scj643> Lol
L1024[15:01:27] <scj643> Fuck yeah An_Angry_Brit
L1025[15:02:37] <Turtle> oh btw, are you supposed to program EEPROMs by swapping out the bios after boot?
L1026[15:02:43] <vifino> yes
L1027[15:02:54] <vifino> or use the opensecurity writer
L1028[15:03:00] * vifino pokes Mimiru
L1029[15:07:10] <Turtle> opensecurity.
L1030[15:07:14] <Turtle> hang on, google exists, nvm
L1031[15:07:48] <S3> Turtle: eeproms are fun to program
L1032[15:08:06] <Turtle> Does the basic lua bios add anything api wise?
L1033[15:08:45] <S3> I was wondering that. You can get it by downloading from the eeprom
L1034[15:09:04] <S3> Well actually usually with eeproms they call that uploading to your computer
L1035[15:09:12] <S3> Downloading is saving to eeprom
L1036[15:09:49] <Turtle> given the EEPROM code is probably started from java, it´s not really uploading to the computer either :P
L1037[15:09:51] <gamax92> S3: I prefer dumping and flashing
L1038[15:10:00] <S3> I upgamax I like that much better
L1039[15:10:09] <gamax92> also the EEPROM code is here https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/bios.lua
L1040[15:10:23] <S3> Because you have to agree the whole download and upload mixup with hardware is retarded
L1041[15:11:43] <Turtle> yeah, I got the source, wait, setBootAdress writes to the EEPROM, that´s... odd?
L1042[15:11:47] <Turtle> wouldn´t it wipe the bios itself
L1043[15:11:53] <S3> Turtle: I am an electrical engineer :)
L1044[15:12:25] <S3> It writes to a special are of the eeprom
L1045[15:12:28] <S3> Area
L1046[15:12:41] <S3> Oc eeproms have two banks.
L1047[15:13:00] <Turtle> aaah. I see.
L1048[15:13:03] <S3> A bank where code is initially executed and another.
L1049[15:13:34] <S3> So with openos it stores the address of the disk component
L1050[15:14:02] <gamax92> Trust S3, he's an engineer
L1051[15:14:14] <S3> That's a bold statement
L1052[15:14:26] <S3> ^
L1053[15:15:09] <S3> Turtle you can stuff anything you want in the eeprom
L1054[15:15:24] <Turtle> well, it has a size limit, pretty small one too I believe
L1055[15:15:36] <S3> Use it for configuration hints
L1056[15:15:55] <S3> The eeprom I'm writing for my SOPT partition table is like uefi
L1057[15:16:06] <S3> And gets sorry code from a boy partition
L1058[15:16:14] <S3> Boot*
L1059[15:16:40] <Turtle> I was going to try out drones, since my OS atm does rely on the current boot adress for a few things :P
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L1061[15:20:59] <Turtle> I´ll probably try to make a drone that follows a wireless modem signal, might be fun.
L1062[15:22:42] <gamax92> If you dig a hole though the earth in china, do you end up in china>
L1063[15:23:24] <Turtle> regardless of earth, if you dig a hole in china, you´ll probably still be in china.
L1064[15:23:26] <Turtle> (Ha, Typo)
L1065[15:26:26] <Temia> If you managed to bore through the mantle of the earth, meanwhile, 90% of the time you will end up in the ocean.
L1066[15:35:06] <S3> You know the Russians tried to dig a hole to the center of the earth
L1067[15:35:34] <S3> They only for like 9 or 10 miles iirc until their drill bit started melting
L1068[15:39:13] <S3> The ocean is actually not very deep turtle
L1069[15:39:26] <S3> Average depth of the ocean is 4 KM
L1070[15:39:57] <S3> And it is deeper near the continents n than it is in the middle
L1071[15:40:13] <S3> Putting aside the rifys
L1072[15:40:19] <S3> Rifts*
L1073[15:41:08] <S3> How do I know this? I'm taking an ocean sciences class this semester.
L1074[15:41:20] <S3> :)
L1075[15:41:40] <Temia> Great
L1076[15:41:51] <Temia> This comes after reading Jojo part 4
L1077[15:42:07] <Temia> So I'm now imagining you as marine biologist Jotaro.
L1078[15:43:14] <Turtle> S3: Tabfail much?
L1079[15:46:20] * Mimiru pokes vifino
L1080[15:46:50] * vifino pokes Mimiru back
L1081[15:47:20] <vifino> Turtle asked about eeproms, thought you could tell him more about your mod than I can.
L1082[15:49:14] <Mimiru> Well, the only real interaction with eeproms is the Card Writer can write to them.
L1083[15:52:26] <LJack2k> possible a noob questin (but that i am) is there a way to make the GUI bigger?
L1084[15:52:34] <Turtle> LJack2k, what GUI?
L1085[15:52:46] <LJack2k> when you click the screen
L1086[15:52:57] <Mimiru> Use higher tier GPU / Screens
L1087[15:52:59] <LJack2k> the command line
L1088[15:53:09] <LJack2k> i have the highest tier
L1089[15:53:10] <Turtle> with a higher tier graphics card/screen the screen will be bigger, note that the characters will still be the same size
L1090[15:53:49] <LJack2k> so the same number of characters will be on the screen. width and height.
L1091[15:54:08] <Turtle> no, the window will be bigger
L1092[15:54:15] <Turtle> are you using T3 GPU AND screen?
L1093[15:54:19] <LJack2k> yep
L1094[15:54:34] <LJack2k> https://imgur.com/S2n9Q6r
L1095[15:54:57] <gamax92> that looks like T1
L1096[15:54:57] <LJack2k> o wait
L1097[15:55:00] <Mimiru> That's not how the top tier card/screen look at default res.
L1098[15:55:08] <LJack2k> you are right, i have the wrong GPU
L1099[15:55:18] <LJack2k> naab me
L1100[15:56:13] <Turtle> yeah.
L1101[15:56:22] <vifino> Turtle: Mr. EEPROM. That handsome developer over there might help you with your problems.
L1102[15:56:27] * vifino points at Mimiru
L1103[15:56:28] <Turtle> The maximum size is something like this: http://i.imgur.com/mkpBvOu.png
L1104[15:56:38] <LJack2k> ah nice
L1105[15:56:56] <Turtle> I see original mod texture influence.
L1106[15:57:08] <Turtle> (At least it´s a lot better than the images on curse)
L1107[15:57:18] * vifino slaps Turtle
L1108[15:57:18] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L1109[15:57:32] <Mimiru> "Handsome"?
L1110[15:57:39] <Turtle> vifino: You can´t hide it from me, I know where that texture comes from.
L1111[15:57:53] <Turtle> or well, is influenced from
L1112[15:57:58] <vifino> what.
L1113[15:58:10] <vifino> what texture? O_o
L1114[15:58:23] <Turtle> http://i.imgur.com/c80FYnK.png
L1115[15:58:25] <Mimiru> "That" one
L1116[15:58:37] <Turtle> The mag card reader
L1117[15:59:00] <vifino> That's... not made by me?!
L1118[15:59:07] <Turtle> it is not, you responded.
L1119[15:59:08] <vifino> I am very confused.
L1120[15:59:31] <vifino> You pinged me, not otherwise :|
L1121[15:59:43] <Turtle> no?
L1122[15:59:50] <Turtle> you slapped me
L1123[16:00:20] <vifino> Turtle | vifino: You can´t hide it from me, I know where that texture comes from.
L1124[16:00:29] <vifino> Whaaat teeeextuuuuuure.
L1125[16:00:42] <Turtle> I linked the image, mag card reader from opensecurity
L1126[16:00:58] <vifino> How am I darn related to the texture? :|
L1127[16:01:26] <Turtle> You slapped me after I mentioned that I noticed the texture was influenced by another mod
L1128[16:01:58] <gamax92> A gasoline guitar, for those moments when electric guitars don't give you enough power.
L1129[16:02:11] <vifino> not like i looked at any of that :|
L1130[16:02:31] <vifino> #p
L1131[16:02:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.114931745 Seconds passed.
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L1133[16:03:53] <Turtle> but yeah, the immibis peripherals influence is noticable :P
L1134[16:04:14] <Mimiru> Hey, I didn't do the textures either. :P
L1135[16:04:22] <Turtle> I´m not saying it´s a bad thing
L1136[16:04:24] <gamax92> how do they look like immibis's peripherals, at all?
L1137[16:04:39] <Mimiru> The mag card reader is a direct rip, just colored differently
L1138[16:04:45] <Turtle> only the mag card one, and it´s design influence, not a direct rip
L1139[16:04:56] <Turtle> http://puu.sh/10FBN.jpg <- Immibis´ peripherals mag reader
L1140[16:04:57] <Mimiru> I'll admit it when I first added it it was EXACTLY the Mag Card reader/
L1141[16:05:08] <Turtle> http://i.imgur.com/c80FYnK.png Opensecurity mag reader
L1142[16:05:24] <Mimiru> When Flawed redid my textures he moved some stuff around, but kept the basic look
L1143[16:05:33] <Turtle> it´s not a direct rip, and the design theme matches, but it´s certainly influenced by immibis´ one
L1144[16:05:49] <Mimiru> Like I said, when I first added it I used Immi's texture :P
L1145[16:05:54] <Turtle> :P
L1146[16:06:04] <Mimiru> I suck at texturing
L1147[16:06:10] <gamax92> so do I
L1148[16:06:19] <Turtle> that´s what we´re programmers for
L1149[16:06:55] <Mimiru> Seriously look at this shit
L1150[16:06:56] <gamax92> Yes :P I wrote a program to take a small noisy image extracted from something else, and make a giant image of random pixels from it
L1151[16:06:56] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-09-26_16-06-45.png
L1152[16:07:20] <Turtle> Mimiru, let´s just say, thank god for whomever made the new textures.
L1153[16:07:32] <Mimiru> That;d be Flawedspirit, who isn't here atm
L1154[16:07:33] <gamax92> the new textures are Flawed
L1155[16:07:42] <Mimiru> Don't think he's finished his new ZNC install yet
L1156[16:07:48] <Turtle> gamax92, puns, pls. no.
L1157[16:07:54] <gamax92> X3
L1158[16:08:47] <Temia> Roommate brings home pumpkin spaghetti sauce
L1159[16:08:49] <Temia> I try it.
L1160[16:08:51] <Temia> Blech.
L1161[16:08:59] <gamax92> that ... doesn't sound good at all
L1162[16:09:02] <Temia> It wasn't.
L1163[16:09:11] <Temia> Thankfully the taste pointed out EXACTLY what it lacked
L1164[16:09:23] <Temia> So some garam masala, cumin and a drop of chili powder later to give it a kick
L1165[16:09:27] <Temia> And it tastes much better. <3
L1166[16:09:38] <gamax92> wat?
L1167[16:09:45] <gamax92> I only understood chili powder
L1168[16:09:51] <Turtle> or y´know, just not stuff pumpkin in everything because ¨umg halloween in a month¨
L1169[16:10:08] <gamax92> I had pumpkin bagels once
L1170[16:10:19] <gamax92> they were basically plain bagels with chunks of pumpkin
L1171[16:11:13] <Temia> That sounds lame
L1172[16:12:05] <gamax92> very
L1173[16:13:24] <Temia> I like making pumpkin pie from scratch as much as the next <overly specific qualifier> here, but yeah, pumpkin has its place
L1174[16:13:38] <Temia> And I admit my ingredients have kind of made the sauce more of a pumpkin curry but idgaf
L1175[16:14:01] <gamax92> you should gaf, it made it not tasted like blech
L1176[16:14:03] <Temia> Pumpkin curry isn't bad either!
L1177[16:14:05] <Temia> True
L1178[16:14:08] <Temia> I like curry :D
L1179[16:14:35] <S3> How many bytes is the data part of the eeprom?
L1180[16:14:47] <gamax92> 256
L1181[16:14:50] <gamax92> code is 4096
L1182[16:14:50] <S3> Wow
L1183[16:14:53] <S3> That's huge
L1184[16:15:09] <S3> You can store a lot on 256 bytes
L1185[16:15:27] <S3> Heck
L1186[16:15:38] <S3> You could store your position table on the eeprom
L1187[16:15:39] <Turtle> the code part is reasonably small though
L1188[16:15:55] <S3> If it was SOPT that's 8 partitions
L1189[16:16:18] <S3> Turtle: I t an entire programming language in the 4K
L1190[16:16:23] <S3> Fit*
L1191[16:16:38] <S3> It's a lot more than you think
L1192[16:16:49] <Turtle> it´s give or take 200-250 lines of code, depending on line width
L1193[16:16:52] <S3> If you do it right it's like 200 lines of code or so
L1194[16:16:59] <Lizzy> "<@Mimiru> "Handsome"?" You are a mighty fine lady.
L1195[16:17:01] <S3> Haha
L1196[16:17:19] <Turtle> as I said, it´s reasonable.
L1197[16:17:22] <S3> The language post I got in about 400 bytes
L1198[16:17:34] <S3> Part*
L1199[16:18:38] <S3> Turtle: SOPT (my partition table) has a position type of lua boot code
L1200[16:18:39] <Mimiru> Lizzy, :P
L1201[16:18:48] <S3> Which is just a position of lua
L1202[16:18:49] <Turtle> ah
L1203[16:18:52] <S3> Partition
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L1205[16:19:00] <S3> So the eeprom can just load that
L1206[16:19:13] <S3> It's type 0x1 iirc
L1207[16:19:29] <S3> 0x0 is the null partition route
L1208[16:19:34] <S3> Type
L1209[16:20:09] <Mimiru> Ugh I really need someone to fix my shitty block camo
L1210[16:20:10] <S3> Then if you set the local partition type namespace flag to 0
L1211[16:20:23] <S3> It uses the gpt partition types
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L1213[16:20:45] <S3> So you can port fat, etc
L1214[16:21:57] <Turtle> mimru?
L1215[16:22:00] <Turtle> *Mimiru?
L1216[16:22:09] <Mimiru> Yes?
L1217[16:22:25] <Turtle> ¨Ugh I really need someone to fix my shitty block camo¨ block camo?
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L1219[16:22:42] <Mimiru> Yeah door controllers can have their texture overridden
L1220[16:22:50] <Turtle> oh, I see
L1221[16:23:44] <Mimiru> Issue is it doesn't work with anything that uses a special renderer, or multiple render passes
L1222[16:24:12] <S3> Lol
L1223[16:25:20] <gamax92> Mimiru: steal crapenters blocks
L1224[16:25:29] <Mimiru> lol...
L1225[16:25:31] <Mimiru> yeah.
L1226[16:25:45] <Mimiru> You see that's the first thing I thought of too
L1227[16:25:58] <Mimiru> I cried myself to sleep that night.
L1228[16:26:05] <S3> I think I might make a super lightweight switch system for our networking purposes.
L1229[16:26:17] <S3> And throw it on ocbsd
L1230[16:27:39] <Turtle> Mimiru, lemme guess, shit implementation is amazingly shit?
L1231[16:27:54] <Mimiru> It's just too complex for my feeble little mind to comprehend
L1232[16:28:11] <Turtle> So... Blame Mojang? XD
L1233[16:28:37] <gamax92> What does Mojang have to do with this
L1234[16:29:01] <Mimiru> I just store the block you clicked the controller with in an inventory, then just return the proper textures
L1235[16:29:34] <Turtle> Because special rendering code being complex would be caused by the quircks of Mojang´s original implementation?
L1236[16:29:53] <Turtle> I´m pretty sure minecraft forge doesn´t completely replace the rendering code.
L1237[16:33:14] <S3> Somebody mixed wine in with the tonic water
L1238[16:33:25] <S3> I found that out very fast
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L1240[17:06:58] <Turtle> \o/ got my crummy drone bios to work
L1241[17:11:42] <scj643> Comgrats
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L1243[17:25:16] <S3> Does it netboot?
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L1246[17:30:44] <Turtle> S3, nah, component.invoke over wireless network, just wanted to do some testing.
L1247[17:41:06] <RaptorJeebus> Anyone have any idea why my nanomachines aren't charging? i'm standing right next to my charger.
L1248[17:41:34] <RaptorJeebus> http://i.imgur.com/tIqA9le.png
L1249[17:42:18] <Kodos> Charger needs a redstone signal
L1250[17:42:19] <Turtle> do you have a redstone signal to the charger?
L1251[17:42:38] <RaptorJeebus> ah, thank you
L1252[17:42:45] <RaptorJeebus> it didn't say anything about that on the docs
L1253[17:42:54] <Turtle> it´s a new thing, should be on the wiki
L1254[17:43:07] <Turtle> I´ve found they might also take a while before the charging effect is noticable, the bar is really small
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L1256[17:43:58] <RaptorJeebus> ok nah that worked, there was nothing about the redstone signal
L1257[17:45:49] <Turtle> ¨Transfers energy from capacitors into adjacent robots. The transfer rate depends on the incoming redstone signal, where no signal means don't charge robots, and maximum strength means charge at full speed.¨
L1258[17:45:52] <Turtle> http://ocdoc.cil.li/block:charger
L1259[17:45:59] <Turtle> First text, besides the block name and top bar etc
L1260[17:47:56] <RaptorJeebus> ahhhhhh, ok, i was looking under the nanomachines page
L1261[17:48:04] <Turtle> :P
L1262[17:48:10] <RaptorJeebus> thanks though aha
L1263[17:48:14] <RaptorJeebus> sorry for my nubness
L1264[17:48:17] <Turtle> dw
L1265[17:48:21] <RaptorJeebus> is there any example code for them?
L1266[17:48:22] <RaptorJeebus> anywhere
L1267[17:48:27] <Turtle> nanomachines?
L1268[17:48:31] <RaptorJeebus> yeah
L1269[17:48:47] <Turtle> http://ocdoc.cil.li/item:nanomachines ? :P
L1270[17:48:49] <RaptorJeebus> i'm still confused as to what they actually do, i just wanted to be part man part machine
L1271[17:49:05] <Turtle> they have a random set of potion effects (reconfigure gets a new set)
L1272[17:49:11] <RaptorJeebus> ah
L1273[17:49:16] <Turtle> you interact with them over wireless modems
L1274[17:49:32] <RaptorJeebus> alright, time to see if it kills me or makes me stronger
L1275[17:49:52] <Turtle> protip: See how much effects you can have active at once first
L1276[17:49:58] <Turtle> as having more than that will kill you, rapidly.
L1277[17:50:13] <RaptorJeebus> i was thinking of going one at a time
L1278[17:50:22] <RaptorJeebus> and writing them down so i can enable and disable them as i please
L1279[17:50:35] <RaptorJeebus> making code to do that simply obviously XD
L1280[18:00:49] <RaptorJeebus> different combinations of effects make new effects right?
L1281[18:01:10] <Turtle> dunno
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L1283[18:01:21] <Turtle> I know if you combine too many/have too many active at ones you take a lot of damage
L1284[18:01:42] <RaptorJeebus> it says max safe is 2
L1285[18:01:50] <RaptorJeebus> and effects 3 and 4 do nothing apparently
L1286[18:01:51] <Turtle> then you can have 2 active at once
L1287[18:10:13] <Turtle> hmh, did someone make a sane network-over-redstone protocol yet?
L1288[18:11:21] <Turtle> (Context: Immersive Integration adds redstone wires to Immersive Engineering, they make really pretty telegraph lines)
L1289[18:13:35] <vifino> https://goo.gl/YwNpko
L1290[18:13:36] <MichiBot> vifino: https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11800028_394346504092524_3200698424295520405_n.png?oh=27adef34491b8ed4e0f42fff8ee25b99&oe=56624305 Page title: null
L1291[18:13:59] <vifino> Yes.
L1292[18:14:02] <Mimiru> Turtle, why not just use the OC Cables in ZI
L1293[18:14:15] <Mimiru> Why does that keep getting enabled here
L1294[18:14:17] <Turtle> ZI?
L1295[18:14:36] <Temia> Zetta Industries.
L1296[18:14:36] <Mimiru> Zetta Industries
L1297[18:14:53] <Mimiru> ci.bymarcin.com
L1298[18:15:14] <Temia> A mod that adds various little things such as a Big Reactors-style multiblock battery, a variable redstone emitter, and some integration with OpenComputers and Immersive Engineering via their telecommunication cables
L1299[18:15:23] <Turtle> oooh.
L1300[18:16:08] <Temia> Also now I do wanna see some computers acting as telegraphs.
L1301[18:16:28] <Temia> Or maybe a complex redpower circuit
L1302[18:17:30] <Turtle> The only real problem is making sure the computer knows when to start reading a bit and when to stop
L1303[18:17:41] <Turtle> which you´d probably resolve by running a second signal across another color
L1304[18:17:55] <Temia> Or, more simply
L1305[18:18:15] <Temia> Using serial TTY protocols with start/stop bits instead.
L1306[18:18:33] <Temia> With ASCII, you could fit a precise byte every half-second
L1307[18:18:49] <cloakable> I wonder how good that ZI battery is
L1308[18:18:55] <Temia> pretty ridiculous.
L1309[18:19:05] <cloakable> Oh?
L1310[18:19:09] <Temia> Can easily approach GRF storage spaces
L1311[18:19:20] <cloakable> Ooo
L1312[18:19:32] <vifino> Hey Temiamoo, do you think a tau can drive a 4k display at 30hz?
L1313[18:19:41] <Temia> ...not... sure.
L1314[18:19:48] <vifino> Darn :(
L1315[18:19:48] <cloakable> There needs to be a mod spotlight or at least some damn documentation
L1316[18:20:07] <vifino> Because to try I'll have to move my setup all over the place :/
L1317[18:20:15] <cloakable> marcin212: your readme is literally 'mod for minecraft'
L1318[18:20:21] <cloakable> plsfix
L1319[18:20:38] <Temia> I'm not sure what the bandwidth of the Tau's HDMI controller is off the top of my head.
L1320[18:22:18] <vifino> I'll report back if it works anyhow, moomoo.
L1321[18:22:23] <Temia> Alright.
L1322[18:22:25] <vifino> To adventure!
L1323[18:22:37] <Temia> By some off-the-cuff numbers, you'll need a large amount of VRAM just to support the resolution in any case
L1324[18:22:41] <vifino> Otherwise known as moving heavy things around .-.
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L1326[18:25:43] <Silke_Smoothe> Hello folks
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L1328[18:26:49] <gamax92> Hello folk
L1329[18:26:55] <Turtle> Dang that RF meter from ZI is good
L1330[18:27:05] <gamax92> it is
L1331[18:27:38] <Mimiru> Oh hey Silke_Smoothe, I was just about to answer you on PC-L :P
L1332[18:28:01] <Silke_Smoothe> ; )
L1333[18:28:08] <Turtle> Is there any documentation whatsoever?
L1334[18:28:27] <Mimiru> Not that I've found really..
L1335[18:28:53] <Turtle> then I´m just going to bug you guys, what does the quarry fixer do? :P
L1336[18:29:04] <Mimiru> It fixes quarries
L1337[18:29:30] <Turtle> ... .-.
L1338[18:29:38] <Mimiru> "When placed next to a BC Quarry and right-clicked, it removes all liquids(fluids) from the Quarry dig area and places stone in the walls. This helps prevent lag from liquids constantly updating in the quarried area."
L1339[18:29:39] <S3> Ocdoc turtle
L1340[18:29:46] <Turtle> oooh.
L1341[18:29:53] <Mimiru> S3, I
L1342[18:30:06] <Mimiru> I'm pretty sure ocdoc doesn't have much content for addon mods
L1343[18:30:10] <Silke_Smoothe> So I'm new to OC, and not a programmer. Trying to find a simple way to display the OC screen onto an RFTOOLS screen
L1344[18:30:18] <S3> It doesn't
L1345[18:30:22] <Kodos> Silke_Smoothe, you can't, really
L1346[18:30:31] <S3> Maybe we should make a third party wiki for oc
L1347[18:30:35] <S3> And oc stuff
L1348[18:30:48] <Turtle> or y´know, get the ocdoc updated? :P
L1349[18:31:00] <Turtle> or yell at modders to use the ingame one
L1350[18:31:03] <S3> Like we did for rp2 and it became the best to wiki there was
L1351[18:31:05] <Mimiru> ocdoc is for OC, not addons really..
L1352[18:31:12] <Temia> Well, when it comes to third-party mods, their content has no place on ocdoc
L1353[18:31:35] <Mimiru> This looks like older docs for most of the stuff in ZI
L1354[18:31:35] <Mimiru> https://github.com/marcin212/EvenMoreUtilities/wiki
L1355[18:31:36] <Turtle> Err, I was referencing it´s external wiki link page thing
L1356[18:31:44] <Mimiru> looks like he rolled EMU into ZI
L1357[18:31:50] <S3> Hmm
L1358[18:31:58] <gamax92> who at Microsoft thought that indicating update download progress by only a percentage and a total was a good idea
L1359[18:32:24] <Mimiru> gamax92, that was my call actually
L1360[18:32:31] <S3> I have pondered editing the entire oc wiki and fixing all your blasted spelling errors
L1361[18:32:37] <S3> And grammar errors
L1362[18:32:44] <S3> They drive me nuts
L1363[18:33:06] <gamax92> Bad, bad Mimiru
L1364[18:33:50] <S3> I wish I could do pip with Netflix or hulu on my phone
L1365[18:33:51] <Mimiru> Well, the alternative was just a quickly scrolling progress bar that gave you no indication of what it was doing at all.
L1366[18:38:44] <LJack2k> anybody good at math? i want to draw a sphere in the hologram :S
L1367[18:39:52] <Mimiru> 2+2 = 5, for sufficiently large values of 2
L1368[18:40:14] <LJack2k> haha
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L1370[19:05:23] <S3> Ljack: a sphere is just a triangle
L1371[19:05:44] <S3> Dane as a circle
L1372[19:06:23] <S3> Same*
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L1374[19:24:22] <Kilobyte> o/
L1375[19:25:47] <Kilobyte> i hate being on the way at night. it seems as if literally nobody is there
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L1377[19:30:33] <S3> Ljsck2k: if you don't believe me that circles are just triangles, consider this..
L1378[19:33:11] <S3> If you look at the equation of a circle do it does make adjustments for a translation from the origin in all components you will find that the equation is actually just the law of cosines at a right angle which is the Pythagorean theorem
L1379[19:34:05] <S3> This is because if you were to draw a circle on your paper you could imagine yourself drawing a triangle making the edge of the circle being at the rate of the radius of the circle being the hypotenuse of a triangle as you swirl it around or pivot around the origin
L1380[19:34:35] <S3> This concept is the same when it comes to a sphere however the difference here is that you have a lot more points because you're working with three dimensions instead of just too however the equation of a sphere is not that different
L1381[19:38:03] <S3> So if you wanted to draw a sphere with a hologram what you could do is you could take every possible points into a scan and sort of reverse the equation you would have to leave to do the reverse of the Pythagorean theorem two times the test to see if that point falls in the equation if so then you put the point there and then eventually as you scan all the points you will have a sphere
L1382[19:38:41] <S3> The other thing you could do is find a point as an origin and then do the Pythagorean Theorem twice for every possible points that you believe should be in the hologram however this may be more difficult with such a low resolution
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L1384[19:39:46] <S3> It's a lot to take in but I used the Google mix to type all that for me heh
L1385[19:39:51] <S3> Mic*
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L1389[20:34:25] <gamax92> Kilobyte: correct, only you are there
L1390[20:37:59] <S3> Some people are so crazy
L1391[20:38:27] <S3> I don't like it when people hell say me for crap I am not directly responsible for
L1392[20:38:41] <S3> Yell at me*
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L1394[20:48:30] <vifino> Temia: At the moment I seem o have it running in upscaled 1080p mode, not sure if I want to change that or not.
L1395[20:50:56] <gamax92> vifino: Fixing the BCD is not fun
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L1397[20:51:06] <vifino> The what?
L1398[20:51:26] <gamax92> Windows boot configuration stuff
L1399[20:51:31] <vifino> ah.
L1400[20:51:37] <gamax92> especially when the stupid tool doesn't put the file in the right place
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L1405[21:37:26] <Kodos> o/
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L1407[22:32:15] <sugoi> hi Kodos
L1408[22:32:22] <Kodos> Herro
L1409[22:33:03] <sugoi> i need advice on naming a library
L1410[22:33:25] <sugoi> there are some methods in /bin/sh.lua that i want to extract into a /lib/?.lua
L1411[22:33:28] <sugoi> for reuse and such
L1412[22:33:37] <sugoi> should i call it /lib/sh.lua?
L1413[22:33:43] <sugoi> other ideas?
L1414[22:35:42] <gamax92> what are the methods
L1415[22:36:37] <sugoi> a lot of sh.lua - parseComands that turns a pipe chain into separate string arrays
L1416[22:37:07] <sugoi> a method that turns the command chains into "threads" via process.load (for later coroutine dispatch)
L1417[22:37:19] <sugoi> and the pipe chaining loop
L1418[22:37:33] <sugoi> so basically..nearly all
L1419[22:37:36] <sugoi> :)
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L1423[22:43:47] <sugoi> i also considered removing the methods from sh.lua and just adding them to shell.lua
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L1428[22:56:40] <B0b> can you have more than 1 raid storing files
L1429[22:57:32] <B0b> I need to store massive ammounts of data but I cant find a way to store more than 12MB
L1430[22:58:04] <B0b> do I have to use multiple computers?
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L1432[22:58:13] <sugoi> B0b: you can more than 1 raid, yes, but it won't be a contiguous block of data for you in openos
L1433[22:59:06] <sugoi> how much data are you hoping to store?
L1434[22:59:37] <B0b> 128MB
L1435[23:00:24] <Temia> Grab computronics and use the best tape they have.
L1436[23:01:29] <B0b> let me get this straight: for high end storage I am using cassete tapes?
L1437[23:01:32] <B0b> ok then
L1438[23:01:47] <B0b> if it works I dont care but that seems a little backward
L1439[23:01:50] <sugoi> haha, well, it'll give you more space in a single device
L1440[23:01:55] <Kodos> CD-ROMs were suggested, but rejected
L1441[23:02:09] <Kodos> What are you storing that's 128 MB?
L1442[23:02:11] <Temia> Not really. Backup tapes with ridiculous media sizes have always been a thing
L1443[23:02:11] <Mimiru> B0b, I'd like to point out, I have a 80 GB tape in my server, right now.
L1444[23:02:29] <Mimiru> like my physical box behind me, has a 80 GB tape.
L1445[23:02:30] <Kodos> Yay for custom configs
L1446[23:02:33] <Kodos> oh
L1447[23:04:06] <B0b> massive database
L1448[23:04:28] <B0b> every folder requires 512 bytes
L1449[23:04:33] <B0b> it really adds up
L1450[23:05:53] <B0b> One quick question, would using cassete tapes slow down memory access because cassete tapes are sequential?
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L1452[23:06:50] <Kodos> What the hell are you databasing that 512 bytes per item adds up to 128 MB
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L1454[23:08:00] <B0b> hundreds of thousands of items
L1455[23:08:06] <gamax92> why
L1456[23:08:21] <B0b> so it can retrieve it for me and autocraft
L1457[23:08:56] <sugoi> well regardless of why, a computronics tape drive would probably be your easiest solution to get that much storage
L1458[23:09:03] <gamax92> an autocrafting system doesn't seem like you'd be doing thousands of folders
L1459[23:09:19] <gamax92> thousands of files I could see
L1460[23:09:22] <B0b> every type of item has its own folder
L1461[23:09:37] <Temia> You would have to keep track of the position you're at since seeking is relative, but other than that
L1462[23:10:00] <Temia> Of course, now I'm imagining one of those big mainframe tape drives spinning back and forward all the time.
L1463[23:10:04] <B0b> I just did it that way so that it could find it more quickly
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L1465[23:14:56] <gamax92> "Your password is contained in a blacklist."
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