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L51[05:34:17] <Lumien> Could somebody point
me to the example project mentioned in the api doc ?
L52[05:35:11] <Vexatos> depends
L53[05:35:28] <Vexatos> which one
L54[05:35:31] <Vexatos> there are a
lot
L55[05:35:44] <Lumien> "Making items
available as components"
L56[05:35:47] <Lumien> That one ^^
L57[05:35:51] <Vexatos> example machine,
example TE, example item, example external driver
L58[05:35:52] <Vexatos> ah
L60[05:35:58] <Vexatos> there you go
L61[05:36:15] <Lumien> thx
L62[05:36:35] <Vexatos> it's very extremely
lots of basic
L63[05:36:40] <Vexatos> so if you need more
help, feel free to ask
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L66[05:41:52] <brandon3055> what is the oc
equivalent of peripherals?
L67[05:42:51] <Vexatos> brandon3055, there
are two things
L68[05:43:21] <Vexatos> One is a driver,
that is, you place an Adapter block next to the block you want to
access and access is that way
L69[05:43:40] <brandon3055> Oh hay Vexatos
havent seen you around for a while. Guess probably due to time zone
differences
L70[05:43:42] <Vexatos> the other thing is
a component, those are the things that transmit network data
themselves and thus you can just plug in a cable directly
L71[05:43:49] <Vexatos> Probably, I'm
usually here all day
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L73[05:43:58] <Vexatos> I assume you want
the Driver solution though
L74[05:44:10] <Vexatos> as your blocks
aren't specifically computer network parts
L75[05:44:20] <Vexatos> it's more akin to
CC peripherals, too
L76[05:45:00] <Vexatos> basically, a Driver
is equal to an IPeripheralProvider
L77[05:45:02] <brandon3055> yea been
meaning to ask you about adding cc and oc integration to de but i
have started to figure things out
L78[05:45:07] <Vexatos> if you extend
DriverTileEntity (the prefab class)
L79[05:45:13] <Vexatos> it's really easy to
use
L80[05:45:36] <Vexatos> you just need to
give it the tile entity class you want to wrap (may be any
superclass too)
L81[05:45:49] <Vexatos> and then create the
new ManagedEnvironment (equal to a CC IPeripheral)
L82[05:45:56] <Vexatos> that one can
contain all the stuffs
L83[05:46:02] <Vexatos> all functions
etc
L84[05:46:29] <Vexatos> to define an
exposed function, you either annotate it with @Callback
L85[05:46:38] <Vexatos> and have it look
like >> public Object[] myFunctionName(Context context,
Arguments args)
L86[05:47:16] <brandon3055> the oc side
looks pretty easy i just need to lear about oc so i can test it
when i implement it. I really wanted to ask you the best way to
implement the CC api
L87[05:47:17] <Vexatos> or, alternatively,
you implement ManagedPeripheral on your ManagedEnvironment, then
you will get two new functions that work exactly like
ComputerCraft's getMethods and callMethod
L89[05:48:08] <Vexatos> that's my CC and OC
drivers for draconic evolution energy storage
L90[05:48:18] <Vexatos> those people
requesting compat probably aren using Computronics ;)
L91[05:49:25] <Vexatos> the OC driver class
can roughly be directly copied as it is
L92[05:49:37] <brandon3055> yea i actually
downloaded your repo so i can take a good look at it. My question
is as i have the ability to add things directly to the tile would
it be better to implement the api for cc in the tile or should i do
it the same way you did?
L93[05:49:49] <Vexatos> Well, hmmm
L94[05:50:03] <Vexatos> Deprends
L95[05:50:18] <Vexatos> I have them on my
TE class itself as well
L96[05:50:25] <Vexatos> but that might make
your TE class look more messy
L97[05:50:31] <Vexatos> there is really no
difference on the CC side
L98[05:50:58] <Vexatos> brandon3055, I
highly recommend you have one interface all your TEs implement and
only those (don't put it in the API)
L99[05:51:12] <Vexatos> then you can have a
single IPeripheralProvider for all your peripheral TEs
L100[05:51:29] <Vexatos> because the
provider can just check for that interface, and, if it finds it,
you know it's one of your blocks
L101[05:51:36] <Vexatos> and can safely
return its peripheral
L102[05:52:11] <brandon3055> ok that
sounds good. Think i will investigate that route
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L105[05:53:51] <brandon3055> but before i
start i just want to lear enough about oc to be able to test it. I
have computronics installed so i have something to test and CC was
easy enough to test because i have used it a lot in the past but i
havent had any experiance playing with oc
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L107[05:53:55] <Vexaton> Sorry, my
internet died. what was the last thing you saw from me?
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L109[05:54:11] <brandon3055> "and can
safely return its peripheral"
L110[05:54:27] <Vexatos> ok, so it all
went through. I might have missed anything after that though
L111[05:54:49] <brandon3055> dont think
so
L112[05:54:49] <Vexatos> .... AH
right!
L113[05:55:26] <brandon3055> So before i
figure out the code side i really want to lear a bit about the code
side!
L114[05:55:30] <brandon3055> lol
L115[05:55:31] <Vexatos> the easiest way
on the OC side is to have it actually external, but this might not
be good as you then would have your CC and OC functions in
different places
L116[05:55:36] <Vexatos> and I recommend
having them all in one file
L117[05:55:46] <Vexatos> either both in
your TE or both in external classes
L118[05:57:13] <brandon3055> yea i will
probaly try using the method you suggested with them both
external
L119[05:57:29] <Vexatos> if you choose to
have them in your TE, my suggestion is to implement
network.ManagedEnvironment on your TE
L120[05:57:37] <Vexatos> and have a single
Driver for all your blocks
L121[05:57:45] <Vexatos> just like you
should have a single peripheral provider for the CC side
L122[05:58:21] <Vexatos> but external
usually is easier. If you have them both in separate classes (see
my CCDriver and my OCDriver class), you don't even need to worry
much about either of the mods not being installed
L123[05:58:23] <brandon3055> Before i
start working on implementation i would like to learn how to
actually test it in game
L124[05:58:30] <Vexatos> (the on-the-TE
way would require a lot of @Optional)
L125[05:58:34] <Vexatos> ah
L126[05:58:34] <Vexatos> Well
L127[05:58:38] <Vexatos> easiest
way?
L128[05:58:40] <Vexatos> go into your
world
L129[05:58:43] <Vexatos> look at a
block
L130[05:58:46] <Vexatos> type /oc_sc
L131[05:58:55] <Vexatos> boom - magic -
you get a creative computer
L132[05:59:12] <Vexatos> start it, run
"install", install the OS, reboot, remove the floppy,
done
L133[05:59:15] <brandon3055> jup got that
far already
L134[05:59:19] <Vexatos> now your magical
computer is functional
L135[05:59:35] <Vexatos> just place an
Adapter somewhere next to it (or connected via other blocks or
cables)
L136[05:59:39] <Vexatos> and your block
next to that adapter
L137[05:59:57] <brandon3055> Ok the
Adapter is what i have been missing
L138[06:00:00] <Vexatos> Basically, think
of OC's network system as that of Applied Energistics 2 if you know
that
L139[06:00:11] <Vexatos> all components
adjacent to each other connect
L140[06:00:22] <Vexatos> Unless you use a
driver
L141[06:00:28] <Vexatos> then it won't
automatically connect
L142[06:00:36] <Vexatos> You will have to
use an Adapter to connect it
L143[06:00:39] <Vexatos> and that's a good
thing
L144[06:01:09] <Vexatos> because you could
accidentally go RotaryCraft where every single shaft is a
component, and suddenly you have 100 components in a network and
the computer will crash
L146[06:01:19] <Vexatos> as CPUs have a
limit on the amount of components they can have
L147[06:01:31] <Vexatos> brandon3055, yup,
draconic_storage, that's you
L148[06:01:33] <Vexatos> or me
L149[06:01:37] <Vexatos> Computronics
\:D/
L150[06:02:16] <Vexatos> brandon3055, now
run the lua interpreter
L151[06:02:21] <Vexatos> (the
"lua" command)
L152[06:02:24] <Vexatos> then you can do
this
L153[06:02:25] <Vexatos> =component
L154[06:02:29] <Vexatos> to list every
component
L155[06:02:34] <Vexatos> and
=component.<name>
L156[06:02:40] <Vexatos> to list every
function in that component
L157[06:02:53] <Vexatos> and
=component.<name>.<function> to get documentation on
that function
L158[06:03:07] <Vexatos> (documentation
won't be there if you choose to go the ManagedPeripheral route
instead of @Callback)
L159[06:03:18] <Vexatos> so, do, say
=component.draconic_storage
L160[06:03:27] <Vexatos> the = just means
"return "
L161[06:03:42] <Vexatos> It's easier to
type than "return component.draconic_storage"
L162[06:05:06] <Turtle> regarding
components, is there no way whatsoever to figure out the relative
placement of a component to the case/server rack?
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L164[06:05:32] <Vexatos> Turtle, that is
exactly what I told you two days ago
L165[06:05:38] <Vexatos> you can not do
peripheral.wrap(side) :P
L166[06:06:05] <Turtle> I know, there was
some block for robots iirc, but yeah
L167[06:06:19] <Vexatos> Robots can't
interact with external components
L168[06:06:39] <Turtle> (Getting
peripheral.wrap(side) implemented is going to require a lot of
metatable magic .-.)
L169[06:06:49] <Vexatos> OC computers know
what they are connected to, they don't know where. It's like saying
you have cables connected to a bus of your computer but how should
the computer know if you place the peripheral to the right or the
left of your case >_>
L170[06:07:07] <Turtle> left or right bus
:P
L171[06:07:22] <Turtle> but yeah, I can
manage, __index is gloriously powerful
L172[06:07:26] <Vexatos> it is
L175[06:07:54] <Vexatos> so meta
L176[06:08:34] <Vexatos> brandon3055, once
you're done, tell me and I'll look at it if you want to, also I'll
be able to get rid of the driver in Computronics then
L177[06:09:34] <brandon3055> Vexatos, If
you dont mind i would like to use your code as a starting point and
go from there. There are a few new blocks i need to add support for
so it wont just be a strait copy paste
L178[06:10:15] <Vexatos> Well, hmm
L179[06:10:23] <Vexatos> it's MIT licensed
so you would have to obey that
L180[06:10:48] <Vexatos> And my code is
different than what I suggested to you
L181[06:10:56] <Vexatos> well,
slightly
L182[06:11:43] <brandon3055> Well not sure
how much of your code will be left when i am done with it... Guess
it would be simpler to start from scratch
L183[06:11:49] <Vexatos> well
L184[06:11:53] <Turtle> but yeah, in most
cases I should be good with __index and component.methods
L185[06:12:05] <Vexatos> thing is, there
is only one way to do it in external classes, brandon3055
L186[06:12:13] <Vexatos> so you'd end up
with the same class layout as mine
L187[06:12:17] <Vexatos> so just steal it
>_>
L188[06:12:41] <Vexatos> it doesn't matter
in the end anyway
L189[06:13:18] <brandon3055> Is the MIT
liscence an open source licence?
L190[06:14:02] <asie> yes
L191[06:14:04] <asie> google it
L193[06:14:36] <brandon3055> ok well i
have basically changed DE to open source anyway
L194[06:14:51] <Vexatos> it's not
copyleft
L195[06:15:03] <Vexatos> so there is no
need to opensource it just because you use MIT
L196[06:15:07] <Vexatos> MIT really only
has one requirement
L197[06:15:32] <Vexatos> you must include
a copy of the license in your mod. somewhere. Put it in the header
of your "stolen" class or something
L198[06:15:47] <Vexatos> the license file
just needs to be there
L200[06:16:22] <Vexatos> "The above
copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
all copies or substantial portions of the Software."
L201[06:16:41] <Vexatos>
"substantial" being highly subjective
L202[06:16:54] <Vexatos> but I guess a
single class would mean "include it in the header of the
class" :P
L203[06:17:30] <Vexatos> You don't even
need to include the license, you can also do it like this
L205[06:18:28] <brandon3055> lol so that
is actually the exact same licence i have. I gave GreatOrator
permission to change it to open source but couldnt remember which
licence he used
L206[06:19:37] <Vexatos> well, then you
really just need to ship the "Copyright (C) 2014-2015 Adrian
Siekierka, Christopher Trumbour"
L207[06:19:58] <Vexatos> and the fact that
it is, in fact, MIT-licensed too
L209[06:21:49] <brandon3055> yea if i even
copy you code. Think i will spend a bit more time figuring out your
code then decide if i want to just copy it or re write it to work
better with DE
L210[06:21:55] <Vexatos> sure
L211[06:22:03] <Vexatos> feel free to look
through computronics code as much as you want
L212[06:23:17] <Vexatos> it's currently
one of the two biggest CC/OC addons out there and way less hacky
than the other one (OpenPeripheral, it uses its own ASM hackery for
its peripherals so it's not good to read for learning how to make
peripherals yourself)
L213[06:23:56] <Turtle> oh btw, is there
any way to translate CC modem network traffic to OC network traffic
without having a server wrapping the OC
switch/hub/iforgotthenameiamdumb?
L214[06:23:58] <Vexatos> I do highly
recommend using @Callback to define your functions instead of
implementing ManagedPeripheral as it allows you to define
documentation
L215[06:24:13] <Vexatos> Turtle, messages
should go right through an OC switch
L216[06:24:15] <Vexatos> both
directions
L217[06:24:19] <Vexatos> same for
events
L218[06:24:36] <Turtle> I tested that,
note, using the 5-9 version, but I couldn't get it to work
L219[06:24:42] <Vexatos> Cruor, help
L220[06:24:54] <Turtle> I had to have the
CC computer wrap the switch I believe.
L221[06:24:57] <Vexatos> there is someone
needing assistance on a thing only you have ever messed with
L222[06:25:04] <Vexatos> Turtle, you
don't
L223[06:25:20] <Turtle> That's what got it
to work, at least, I noticed switch/hub/whatever got some changes
recently though
L224[06:25:22] <Vexatos> just connecting
it by placing it next to the switch or using network cables should
suffice
L225[06:25:43] <Turtle> CC network cables
didn't work, I tested that, not sure if I properly tested placing
it right next to it though.
L226[06:26:03] <Vexatos> did you activate
the modems? ;)
L227[06:26:08] <Turtle> I did
L228[06:26:13] <Turtle> modem_0 was the OC
side, from memory.
L230[06:26:25] <Vexatos> the API javadoc
is a really good read
L231[06:26:30] <Vexatos> it's the best API
I know
L232[06:27:01] <Turtle> *it's called the
relay, there we go, iirc the switch recipe is disabled now
L233[06:28:27] <Vexatos> yup
L234[06:30:55] <Vexatos> hmm
L235[06:30:57] <Vexatos> actually
L236[06:31:07] <Turtle> will do some
testing later today, but that might be >6h from now
L237[06:31:09] <Vexatos> it appears that
nothing but CC computers can receive messages
L238[06:31:13] <Vexatos> CC messages, that
is
L239[06:31:36] <Turtle> iirc, rednet was
hardcoded before I took a break
L240[06:31:43] <Turtle> some stuff changed
though
L241[06:31:58] <Turtle> modem messages
-should- not be hardcoded, but I am not sure
L242[06:33:29] <Turtle> *poor phrasing,
hardcoded as in, appear randomly on the destination computer
without usage of the lower level api
L243[06:35:58] <Turtle> either way, I'll
do some more testing later tonight
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L245[06:38:38] <Vexatos> Hey Sangar: I
have an issue regarding pico/0.001 machines .-.
L246[06:40:28] <Forecaster> what's a
DE?
L247[06:40:43] <Vexatos> Forecaster,
Deutschland
L248[06:40:51] <Vexatos> it's the
international abbreviation of Germany
L249[06:40:52] <Vexatos> duh
L250[06:41:11] <Vexatos> (it's Draconic
Evolution, a mod by brandon3055)
L251[06:41:20] <Forecaster> ah
L252[06:41:28] <Forecaster> that name
rings a bell
L253[06:41:34] <Vexatos> it does?
L254[06:42:29] <Forecaster>
apparently
L255[06:42:38] *
Forecaster fires rpg at bell
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L257[06:53:10] <brandon3055> Vexatos, How
to you register an IPeripheralProvider with computercraft?
L258[07:02:11] <brandon3055> never mind
found it in dan200.computercraft.api.ComputerCraftAPI
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L261[07:25:25] <brandon3055> wow that was
wiered... Somehow i just created an invalid package. I wasnt able
to access any classes inside it until i deleted it and recreated
it... Probably some sort of syncing issue.
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L264[07:41:24] <Vexatos> brandon3055,
sorry, I was having lunc :/
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L266[07:48:22] <brandon3055> Vexatos, No
problem i really should have just looked at the api before i
asked
L267[07:49:12] <Vexatos> OC has
api.Driver.add
L268[07:51:50] <brandon3055> Oh btw are
the variables for getPeripheral(World world, int i, int i1, int i2,
int i3) x, y, z, side?
L270[07:55:04] <Izaya> doing the server
move live
L271[07:55:10] <Izaya> back in 5
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L276[08:09:12] <Vexatos> brandon3055, yes
indeed
L277[08:09:20] <Vexatos> don't you have
the API documentation in your dev env as well?
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L281[08:16:00] <IzayaXMPP> Cool, this
works
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L285[08:18:40] <brandon3055> no i couldnt
find a decompiled version of the CC api so i just threw the entire
mod into my libs folder
L286[08:18:59] <Vexatos> brandon3055, not
decompiled
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L288[08:19:06] <Vexatos> but the mod jar
contains the API source
L289[08:19:16] <Vexatos> just open it
using some zip file manager
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L291[08:21:00] <brandon3055> Oh nice! did
not know that.
L293[08:22:11] <S3> So it's really hackery
but I think I have figured out a lane way to separate networks in
OC
L294[08:22:11] <S3> Lame*
L295[08:23:28] <S3> In order to protect
and correctly sperate networks you could use a server rack and
connect 1 network to each side
L296[08:24:15] <scj643> Anyone need me
send me a PM and I might reply
L297[08:24:34] <S3> I only hope that
sangar adds a feature to the relay in the future to block
broadcasts
L298[08:25:38] <scj643> I need a place
that we can have my pack up on
L299[08:25:51] <S3> Other than that I
can't find another way to physically sperate two networks
L300[08:26:05] <scj643> A piston?
L301[08:26:14] <scj643> :D
L302[08:29:54] <scj643> S3
L304[08:30:11] <scj643> An issue
L305[08:31:32] <S3> Scj lol
L306[08:32:12] <scj643> This effects
you
L307[08:32:32] <S3> Why is that
L308[08:32:53] <scj643> Something from OC
disappeared
L309[08:33:06] <scj643> Probably something
you were using
L310[08:33:24] <S3> I did have a little
relay network but I'm not too worried
L311[08:33:47] <scj643> Ok
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L313[08:34:48] <S3> But what I will
probably do is make a tiny distribution of OCBSD with just ATM
drivers and stuff
L314[08:35:08] <S3> So that you can make
lightweight ATM switch racks
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L316[08:35:45] <S3> You can still route
ATM on a normal computer but the telecom isp trunks should use
servers to block broadcasts
L317[08:36:08] <S3> It will protect the
network
L318[08:36:27] <S3> The tracks will need
to be in "internal mode"
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L320[08:37:18] <S3> Other than that an ATM
configure she'll will be provided :)
L321[08:37:37] <vifino> So my cousin is
trying to be a ssl certificate authority.
L323[08:37:39] <vifino> Oh boy.
L324[08:38:05] <scj643> What
L325[08:38:10] <scj643> I am trying to do
that
L326[08:38:39] <vifino> scj643: a
*trusted* one, not a ghetto root.
L327[08:38:56] <vifino> aka pay $$$$ for
$$$$$$$
L328[08:39:02] <scj643> Damn
L329[08:39:11] <Izaya> pay 4 dollar signs
for 8 dollar signs?
L330[08:39:12] <S3> Though Xen does use
qemu for io, I only use qemu myself for osdev and related things
because qemu provides a gdb socket I can query register starts etc
with :)
L331[08:39:31] <scj643> Good luck getting
trusted
L332[08:39:49] <scj643> Also devices would
need to be updated
L333[08:39:55] <vifino> nope.
L334[08:40:05] <vifino> anyways, I'm off
to do work
L335[08:40:08] <vifino> \o
L336[08:40:39] <S3> Vifino as much as
there is nothing wrong with that... He can fall into big legal
issue even with an agreement
L337[08:40:55] <S3> Because society is
scared of technology
L338[08:41:07] <vifino> S3: sub
certificate authority
L339[08:41:18] <vifino> pretty much a
reseller, but making own certs
L340[08:41:35] <S3> Yeah that's scary
still
L341[08:41:48] <vifino> scary?
L342[08:41:54] <vifino> scary much
profit.
L343[08:42:21] <S3> I would never do it
:)
L344[08:42:35] <vifino> I wouldn't
either.
L345[08:42:48] <vifino> You have to pay a
shitton to a certificate authority.
L346[08:46:17] <vifino> S3: we are going
the way of many chineese ca's.
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L349[09:12:56] <brandon3055> Vexatos, Darn
just discovered an issue with the way i was planning to set this
up... I was going to use this generic interface for all of my tiles
http://puu.sh/kj4BZ/5fd0fbbc00.png and then make two
converters. One that converts it to an IPeripheral and another that
converts it to a ManagedEnviernment. But as it looks like a
ManagedEnvironment reguires me to mage a seperate method for every
function i dont think that will be possible... Or am i
missing
L350[09:12:57] <brandon3055> something
that may help?
L352[09:16:49] <brandon3055> I guess i may
be able to do this
http://puu.sh/kj4X5/aec6645994.png But it would
require an extra class for each peripheral. And im not sure is
@Optional is allowed in an interface
L353[09:19:45] <Inari> ooooh
L354[09:19:48] <Inari> lua 5.2 can do
destructors
L355[09:19:49] <Inari> nice
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L357[09:22:12] <ds84182> #lua t =
setmetatable({},{__gc=function()_G.ts = "BYE"end})
L358[09:22:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L359[09:22:16] <ds84182> #lua t =
nil
L360[09:22:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L361[09:22:22] <ds84182> #lua
collectgarbage()
L362[09:22:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global
'collectgarbage')
L363[09:22:24] <ds84182> ffs
L364[09:22:27] *
ds84182 stabs vifino
L365[09:22:31] <ds84182> #lua ts
L366[09:22:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L367[09:22:57] <ds84182> Welp, only other
way to invoke the garbage collector is by using all of the
memory
L368[09:23:13] *
vifino "stabs" ds84182 *lenny*
L369[09:23:16] <vifino> jk
L370[09:23:26] <vifino> wait, whaaaat, my
lenny trigger broke :C
L371[09:24:12] <ds84182> #lua ts
L372[09:24:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
BYE
L373[09:24:34] <ds84182> I got it to
trigger by making a 4gb string.
L374[09:24:45] <ds84182> lelsauc
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L376[09:25:48] <ds84182> Also, __gc
doesn't work in OC because Snagra
L377[09:27:09] <Inari> why would __gc not
work
L378[09:27:23] <ds84182> Because Sangar
made it not work because of persistence stuff
L379[09:27:42] <Inari> :<
L380[09:27:47] <Inari> then how do i get
destructors
L381[09:27:55] <vifino> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L382[09:28:00] <vifino> yaay, it works
nao
L383[09:28:01] <ds84182> Plus, __gc isn't
gaurenteed to run
L384[09:28:07] <Inari> it kinda is
L385[09:28:11] <ds84182> you don't have
collectgarbage to force it to run
L386[09:28:16] <Inari> you do
L387[09:28:21] <Sangar> are you sure
you're not confusing that with setmetatable on primitive types?
>_> __gc works (well, in LuaC anyway)
L388[09:28:21] <Inari> yield 10
times
L389[09:28:23] <ds84182> Actually, OC does
collectgarbage every frame
L390[09:28:25] <Inari> =>
collectgarbage
L391[09:28:30] <ds84182> Well, every 10
yields
L392[09:28:56] <ds84182> Sangar: I thought
I remember looking through machine.lua and seeing things about
disabling __gc
L393[09:29:03] <Inari> anyway
L394[09:29:10] <Inari> for a transaction
class i kinda need destructors :D
L395[09:29:18] <Inari> or at least it
would be th ebest way
L396[09:29:19] <Inari> :P
L397[09:29:19] <ds84182> :destroy()?
L398[09:29:28] <ds84182> :finish()
L399[09:29:30] <ds84182> :close()
L400[09:29:31] <Inari> ds84182: that
doestn account to idiots (aka me) forgetting to call that
L401[09:29:47] <ds84182> Inari: You should
remember to free your resources .-.
L402[09:29:56] <vifino> free(world);
L403[09:29:57] <Inari> i like letting the
system do it :P
L404[09:29:59] <Inari> by things going out
of scope
L405[09:30:14] <ds84182> Inari: but... Lua
doesn't exactly work like that Q_Q
L406[09:30:27] <ds84182> And OC has memory
constraints
L407[09:30:37] <vifino> MEMEORY
L408[09:30:38] <Sangar> ds84182, it's
wrapped, but not disabled
L409[09:31:03] <ds84182> Actually, either
way it wouldn't really be much of a memory toll
L410[09:31:20] <ds84182> If you let it go
out of scope, it's still in memory until garbage is collected
L411[09:31:37] <ds84182> If you call a
:destroy(), it's still in memory until garbage collection
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L418[09:56:59] <dangranos> gah
L419[09:57:37] <dangranos> a pen that
randomly skips a little is so annoying
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L422[10:10:12] <RaptorJeebus> Hey
Sangar
L423[10:10:14] <RaptorJeebus> i had an
idea
L424[10:10:23] <RaptorJeebus> well,
someone suggested it to me
L425[10:10:47] <RaptorJeebus> What if
nanobots had the same functionality as terminal glasses, since they
can manipulate your nerves
L426[10:11:00] <ds84182> nanomachines,
son
L427[10:11:06] <RaptorJeebus>
nanomachines* sorry
L428[10:11:11] <RaptorJeebus> it's 1am
here XD
L429[10:11:36] <Noob> They strengthen in
response to physical trauma!
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L431[10:11:44] <Noob> Oops I think wrong
game, sorry
L432[10:12:00] <RaptorJeebus> aha
L433[10:12:30] <RaptorJeebus> mainly so
the glasses from openperipherals don't have to take up an armor
slot anymore
L434[10:12:35] <RaptorJeebus> would be
boss
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L436[10:16:39] <Lumien> Hmm, my creative
computer seems to stop running when i leave the dimension it's
in
L437[10:16:49] <Lumien> It's supposed to
be on when i return right?
L438[10:21:10] <dangranos> yup
L439[10:21:15] <scj643> We should make an
open computers web app
L440[10:21:21] <dangranos> scj643, go
on
L441[10:21:29] <scj643> To pretty the site
for mobile devices
L442[10:22:25] <scj643> On iOS it would
work as a full screen web app
L443[10:24:48] <Vexatos> Sorry,
brandon3055 I was gone
L444[10:24:52] <Vexatos> still here?
L445[10:24:59] <brandon3055> yea
L446[10:25:17] <scj643> I'm here
L447[10:25:27] <Vexatos> Long story short:
A ManagedEnvironment is your IPeripheral
L448[10:25:33] <Vexatos> and a Driver is
your IPeripheralProvider
L449[10:25:40] <Vexatos> so don't have
yout getEnvironment() on the IDEPeripheral
L450[10:25:43] <Izaya> scj643, but then
you'd have to pay Apple fuckloads
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L452[10:25:56] <Vexatos> instead
L453[10:26:06] <Izaya> I say if we do a
'web app'
L454[10:26:14] <Izaya> we do it for
Android instead
L455[10:26:19] <Izaya> Who uses iOS
anyway? /s
L456[10:26:36] <Izaya> (roughly 40% of the
smartphone-owning world)
L457[10:26:44] <Izaya> in other news
L459[10:26:47] <Vexatos> brandon3055
^
L460[10:26:53] <Vexatos> something like
this in your IPeripheralProvider
L461[10:27:05] <Vexatos> for the CC
side
L462[10:27:07] <Izaya> Windows Phone now
has a larger market share than Blackberry
L463[10:27:17] <Vexatos> your
IDEPeripheral does not need to contain any method at all
L464[10:27:20] <Izaya> you know how
everyone jokes how no-one uses blackberry stuff?
L465[10:27:22] <Vexatos> Just do
this
L467[10:27:29] <Izaya> Now MS has a larger
market share!
L468[10:28:00] <Vexatos> because then you
know it's an IPeripheral and you know it's your
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L470[10:28:26] <Noob> I love how Apple is
miserable at lying nowadays
L471[10:28:44] <Vexatos> Then, on your
IDEPeripheral, put an @Optional.Interface (yes, that works on
interfaces too)
L472[10:28:58] <Vexatos> and an
@Optional.Method on all the implemented methods
L473[10:29:14] <Vexatos> for OC, also
implement ManagedEnvironment
L474[10:29:17] <Noob> Back in the days
steve been screaming that "styluses are for idiots", now
apple introduces "apple pen" for ipad and praises
it
L475[10:29:22] <Vexatos> assuming you want
to go the "stuff-in-TE" route
L476[10:29:32] <brandon3055> Well i wasnt
going to make the tiles an iPeripheral i was going to make a custom
interface then make adapters to allow that interface to work with
both mods. But dosnt look like that idea is going to work
L477[10:29:32] <Vexatos> instead of the
"separate class" one
L478[10:29:46] <Vexatos> Well, it is
possible
L479[10:29:55] <Vexatos> but then you
would have to use ManagedPeripheral on the OC side
L480[10:29:56] <Noob> They're screaming
all the time that everyone steals their work, yet biggest update
for iOS9 was ripping off multitasking from windows 8
L481[10:30:05] <Vexatos> which makes the
implementation exactly the same as you are used to from CC
L482[10:30:18] <Vexatos> in that case, you
will not be able to do stuff like method documentation though
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L484[10:30:50] <Izaya> Noob, I thought
they added Android-style context menus, too?
L485[10:30:50] <brandon3055> yea thats the
only issue i have with that aproach
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L487[10:31:58] <Noob> Izaya: That too,
because apparently they grew bored participating in "make most
thin font ever possible" contest with microsoft
L488[10:32:16] <brandon3055> oh well i
guess the methods will be pretty self explanitory. And i assume i
can throw some sort of exception that explains the usage if it is
given invalid args?
L489[10:32:32] <Izaya> Noob, don't you
just love Apple innovation?
L490[10:32:37] <Izaya> And then
L491[10:32:38] <Izaya> the users
L492[10:32:46] <Izaya> refuse to see
they're buying overpriced crap
L493[10:32:50] <Vexatos> brandon3055, on
the OC side, you can throw literally any exception
L494[10:32:59] <Vexatos> on the CC side,
throw a LuaException
L495[10:33:06] <Noob> Izaya: But most
amusing thing for me about Apple is their iWatch
L496[10:33:14] <Vexatos> I usually do
something like IllegalArgumentException on the OC side
L497[10:33:16] <Izaya> IBM had that in the
'90s!
L498[10:33:23] <Vexatos> because that
makes sense a lot of times I need to error
L499[10:33:27] <Izaya> It ran Linux.
L500[10:33:32] <Vexatos> it really doesn't
matter
L502[10:34:08] <Vexatos> that's what I
mean with "documentation"
L503[10:34:23] <Vexatos> if you can live
without it, well
L504[10:34:35] <Vexatos> implement
ManagedPeripheral on the same class you extend ManagedEnvironment
with
L505[10:34:38] <Noob> Izaya: I mean,
seriously... aren't watches supposed to be ROUND? What's up with
that minecraft level of "roundness". And nobody even
notices that Apple utterly failed to make thing that looks like
itself
L506[10:34:41] <Vexatos> And it will
automagically work
L507[10:35:02] <Vexatos> mind,
brandon3055: There is an abstract prefab class as well as an
interface called ManagedEnvironment
L508[10:35:06] <Vexatos> only the
interface is needed
L509[10:35:22] <Vexatos> but if you have
the OC compat in a separate class anyway, extend the prefab
class
L510[10:36:52] <Izaya> Noob, but Apple Can
Do No Wrong - like, look at the fact no-one complains about the new
Macbook's single type C USB port
L511[10:36:59] <Izaya> Want to connect a
USB flash drive?
L512[10:37:07] <Izaya> That'll be a $50
adaptor from Apple.
L513[10:37:18] <Izaya> To connect a $4
flash drive
L514[10:37:34] <Noob> Izaya: It looks like
anything: like an ipod nano with screen, like gps tracker, like....
Like anything EXCEPT A HAND WATCH. Moto 360 are thousandfold times
MORE watch than this handbrick -.-
L515[10:39:06] <Izaya> GPS tracker. True
enough.
L516[10:40:05] <Noob> Im not surprised
that apple is trying to turn functional devices into shiny
garbage
L517[10:40:14] <Noob> Thats what happened
to tablet market basically
L518[10:41:15] <Noob> Before apple there
were experimental devices often called "UMPC" that were
like 10" keyboardless laptops with various buttons on the
edges or something like that
L519[10:41:34] <Izaya> I want a 4:3 tablet
with a physical keyboard
L520[10:41:53] <brandon3055> Vexatos, Ok
so just to make sure i understand you correctly. In my
DriverTileEntity#createEnvironment i return a class that implements
both ManagedEnvironment and ManagedPeripheral. Then i just use the
methods for ManagedPeripgeral. Is that correct?
L521[10:42:06] <Izaya> But yeah, the older
tablets were cool-looking
L522[10:42:13] <Vexatos> yes, you can use
ManagedPeripheral instead of @Callback
L523[10:42:19] <Vexatos> it is exactly
meant for people used to CC
L524[10:42:25] <Noob> Then there comes
apple and says, "a computer in your hands? are you mad? those
things exist only to read wallstreet e-paper at mornings and check
your facebook. here, our glorious overgrown Iphone called
iPad!"
L525[10:42:31] <Vexatos> or wanting to do
stuff like CC<->OC mergery like you
L526[10:42:48] <Vexatos> also, make sure
to create a new instance of that for each tileenttiy
L527[10:42:51] <Izaya> Just a reminder,
the military had UNIX-based tablets in the '90s
L528[10:42:54] <Izaya> :D
L529[10:42:58] <Vexatos> just like you
would with an IPeripheral
L530[10:43:28] <Noob> That threw market
table years behind until Microsoft came up with Surface tablets
that FINALLY reminded people that "tablet computer"
actually means a COMPUTER
L531[10:44:24] <Izaya> I'm told that the
non-RT tablets don't suck
L532[10:44:33] <brandon3055> Just so you
know i have never used the the CC api so im not familiar with
ether. I just found the CC api easyer to figure out
L533[10:44:51] <Vexatos> brandon3055,
weren't you reading the Javadoc? :P
L534[10:44:53] <Noob> Non-RT tablet is
basically like atom netbook, modern one i mean
L535[10:44:56] <Vexatos> CC API has lots
of //TODO document this
L536[10:45:00] <Vexatos> if you look
closely :P
L537[10:45:10] <Izaya> I sorta want one to
play with Linux on
L538[10:45:15] <brandon3055> yea noticed
that lol
L539[10:45:22] <Vexatos> also, that's what
I am here for \.D/
L540[10:45:25] <Vexatos> I read the entire
API doc
L541[10:45:30] <Vexatos> I messed with it
waaay too much
L542[10:45:34] <Noob> Unfortunately
microsoft are dipshits themselves to many windows 8/8.1 tablets are
limited as hell. I'm still having troubles with using linux on my
Dell Venue 8 Pro ._.
L543[10:45:49] <Izaya> Give it time I
guess
L544[10:46:10] <brandon3055> yea i didnt
actually figure it out by looking at the doc i figured it out after
looking at your code for about 5 minutes
L545[10:46:17] <Izaya> MS are real pains
though
L546[10:46:26] <Izaya> Not actually
shutting down is a pain for me
L547[10:46:31] <Izaya> like sure you can
turn it off
L548[10:46:34] <Noob> The primary problem
with venue 8 pro is that it got 32 bit UEFI... with 64 bit CPU
:\
L549[10:46:36] <Izaya> but few clients do
so
L550[10:46:43] <Izaya> wat
L551[10:47:00] <Noob> Yeah it's retarded,
and dell not willing to update older tablets
L552[10:47:03] <Vexatos> brandon3055, mind
that lots of the tileentity code isn't mine but asie's
L553[10:47:04] <Izaya> UEFI is sorta
fucked up, too.
L554[10:47:10] <Izaya> Like, when it works
normally
L555[10:47:11] <Vexatos> the integration
code is indeed more than 50% mine
L556[10:47:36] <Noob> So if you ever get
one, make sure that it supports 64 bit (with 64 bit OS) and that
there's an option to disable secureboot
L557[10:47:53] <Noob> I can disable
secureboot but im stuck with stupid 32bits ._.
L558[10:48:13] <Izaya> I was actually
looking at getting one of the x86 Asus Android tablets
L559[10:48:38] <Izaya> but eh can't
disable secure boot, you'd have to use their pre-4.0 kernel
L560[10:48:40] <scj643> I hate uefi
L561[10:49:11] <Noob> UEFI sucks,
microsoft ruined it with SecureBoot bullshit lol
L562[10:49:29] <Izaya> Secure boot almost
makes sense in the context of Windows
L563[10:49:32] <scj643> How hard would it
be to make a MC mod that uses Python instead of Luna
L564[10:49:37] <Izaya> But then when you
have open-source stuff
L565[10:49:39] <scj643> *LUA
L566[10:49:46] <Izaya> every kernel must
be signed
L567[10:49:55] <Izaya> so users can't
custom-compile
L568[10:49:59] <scj643> Wish I could
manually edit my iPads keyboard stuff
L569[10:50:00] <Izaya> every distro has to
sign
L570[10:50:09] <Izaya> AND THE ONLY CA IS
MICROSHAFT
L571[10:50:16] <scj643> Damn
L572[10:50:19] <Inari> *Lua
L573[10:50:25] <Noob> It makes perfect
sense: a way to force users to sit on Windows because getting
anything that isn't Windows would be pain in the ass to do
L574[10:50:30] <scj643> Hacks into
Microsoft and steals their cents
L575[10:50:54] <scj643> Mission
impossible
L576[10:50:54] <Noob> Besides the way many
companies implement secureboot is simply hilarious
L577[10:51:03] <brandon3055> oh derp was
wondering why this isnt working... It would probally help if i
implemented the interface in the tile not the block...
L578[10:51:09] <Vexatos> scj643, pretty
sure there is a WIP phython architecture for OC in the works
L579[10:51:24] <Vexatos> brandon3055,
here, have a cookie
L580[10:51:29] <scj643> Ms is the only
people that can give certs for drivers for 64bit
L582[10:51:35] <Izaya> Noob, and then you
can overwrite the UEFI firmware anyway
L583[10:51:44] <scj643> That is
risky
L584[10:51:47] *
brandon3055 eats cookie
L585[10:51:47] *
Vexatos gives a glorious Cookie Of Fail™ to
brandon3055
L586[10:51:55] <scj643> Unless you have
dual bios
L587[10:52:12] <Vexatos> Noob, what is
secure boot?
L588[10:52:13] <Vexatos> .-.
L589[10:52:34] <Izaya> scj643, I'm looking
at it as a security hole
L590[10:52:40] <Izaya> once you have any
OS running
L591[10:52:44] <Izaya> and a multi-core
processor
L592[10:52:52] <Noob> Vexatos: an
extremely fucked up way to limit UEFI computers to Windows and Red
Hat Linux
L593[10:52:53] <Izaya> anyone can nuke
your UEFI firmware
L594[10:53:18] <Noob> Vexatos: basically,
it's a system that checks digital signature of .efi boot file and
doesn't run anything thats not signed
L595[10:53:25] <Vexatos> I know this very
computer here uses UEFI
L596[10:53:34] <scj643> Mine doesn't
L597[10:53:43] <Izaya> Mine supports
UEFI
L598[10:53:45] <Izaya> disabled it
L599[10:53:45] <Vexatos> some random
motherboard I bought .-.
L600[10:53:49] <scj643> Don't know what
the iPad uses
L601[10:53:55] <Vexatos> runs Mint just
fine
L602[10:54:01] <Izaya> iPad probably uses
OpenFirmware kek
L603[10:54:15] <Vexatos> apart from the
occasional cinnamon crashes causing me to have to reboot
>_>
L604[10:54:24] <Izaya> Use MATE
L605[10:54:26] <Izaya> or XFCE
L606[10:54:27] <scj643> I wish my iPad
could run a real one
L607[10:54:33] <Izaya> or anything not
cinnamon or KDE or GNOME 3
L608[10:54:34] <scj643> I use Ubuntu
mate
L609[10:54:37] <Vexatos> cinnamon is
prettier :P
L610[10:54:42] <Noob> Vexatos: with
SecureBoot on, UEFI wont boot any non-signed .efi file. And of
course that means that the biggest part of linux distros wont boot
at all :D
L611[10:54:43] <Izaya> Cinnamon is
heavier
L612[10:54:57] <Vexatos> I have 8GB of
RAM
L613[10:54:57] <scj643> Mate with Numidia
icons is nice
L614[10:54:58] <Izaya> but then again,
I've used twm for a significant period of time, too.
L615[10:55:03] <scj643> *numix
L616[10:55:03] <Vexatos> I am not
concerned right now :P
L617[10:55:20] <Izaya> XFCE is nice
though
L618[10:55:25] <scj643> Ubuntu MATE is
what keeps me sane
L619[10:55:28] <Vexatos> cinnamon is
pretty D:
L620[10:55:40] <Izaya> OpenFirmware is
actually a pretty cool system
L621[10:55:44] <Izaya> I like FORTH
L622[10:55:53] <scj643> Unity is pretty
but heavy also love the fact you can tap alt and type a
command
L623[10:56:14] <scj643> FORTH wasn't that
used in red power
L624[10:56:15] <Inari> Vexatos:
nekopara?
L625[10:56:17] <Noob> Vexatos: but
sometimes, UEFI firmware doesn't even have an option to disable
SecureBoot... that's the part when people start screaming
"FUCK MICROSOFT"
L626[10:56:30] <Vexatos> I didn't even
know secureboot existed
L627[10:56:35] <Vexatos> Inari, what
L629[10:56:46] <scj643> That's when you
rip someone off by selling your computer for too much
L631[10:57:15] <scj643> Lol
L632[10:57:39] <Izaya> I need to get this
game
L633[10:57:40] <scj643> Has anyone made a
MySQL connector for OC
L634[10:57:52] <Vexatos> Uhm,
question
L635[10:58:03] <scj643> What
L636[10:58:08] <Vexatos> Is there a
keybind that unbinds your mouse cursor? >_>
L637[10:58:35] <Vexatos> I frequently get
my cursor stuck in some program that binds it and I have to kill
the process to be able to use my mouse again >_>
L638[10:59:57] <scj643> Kill -9 -1
L639[11:00:21] <scj643> Ctrl+alt+1 log
in
L640[11:00:33] <scj643> Problem
solved
L641[11:00:36] ⇦
Quits: KK (~KK@67.204.178.35) (Ping timeout: 192
seconds)
L643[11:01:05] <Noob> he response: “The
error code thrown by our signing process is that your file is not a
valid Win32 application? Is it valid Win32 application?”. Reply:
obviously not, it’s a valid UEFI 64 bit binary. No further response
…
L644[11:01:26] <scj643> lol
L645[11:01:55] <Noob> Microsoft level of
digital signatures
L646[11:02:06] <scj643> I've done internal
code signing with my own certs for exes
L647[11:02:25] <scj643> (Self signed Root
CA)
L648[11:02:48] <scj643> Sadly you can't
self sign 64bit drivers
L649[11:04:03] <scj643> Without having to
set your computer in test mode
L650[11:08:55] *
vifino has been batch installing/migrating wordpress since he
arrived at work
L651[11:08:57] <scj643> You need to have
signed drivers for kernel drivers
L652[11:09:00] <vifino> I'm sick of
wordpress ._.
L653[11:09:05] <vifino> send help
L655[11:11:06] <Izaya> so
L656[11:11:10] <Izaya> how does one test a
driver?
L657[11:11:36] <Noob> Well, you pay
microsoft
L658[11:11:59] <Noob> That's the most
important part of testing, validating hardware and then releasing
it
L659[11:14:00] <Izaya> The part where MS
gets more money?
L660[11:14:34] <Noob> The most important
part, yup
L661[11:14:41] <scj643> Or you set you
computer into testing mode and get an annoying watermark
L662[11:14:43] <Izaya> Well,
L663[11:14:50] <scj643> Not good for end
users
L664[11:15:03] <Izaya> I guess we know how
MS intends to make its money with all this Windows 10 BS
L665[11:15:06] <scj643> So this literally
kills hardware manufactures that are startups
L666[11:15:11] <Izaya> Besides pulling a
google, anyway
L667[11:15:38] <Noob> Was it even this
millennium that microsoft cared about users last time?
L668[11:16:00] <Vexatos> Izaya, the scary
part about win10 are the TV ads
L669[11:16:04] <scj643> The only reason I
looked into this was because I found unlocked audio drivers
L670[11:16:15] <Vexatos> One of the most
scary ads I've seen
L671[11:16:28] <scj643> Uses a hosts file
to block ads in the OS
L673[11:16:50] <Noob> hosts file,
sure
L674[11:17:00] <Noob> how about hardcoded
IPs inside DLLs of kernel?
L675[11:17:02] <Izaya> Noob, they last
cared about users some time before Bill Gates complained about
users pirating his BASIC implimentation
L676[11:17:02] <scj643> It blocks the ads
in solitaire
L677[11:17:21] <Noob> And also fact that
Win10 can't shut the hell up and stop talking to microsoft servers
whatsoever
L678[11:17:35] <Vexatos> the TV ad is
still worse
L679[11:17:37] <scj643> I don't really
care if it tells them stuff
L680[11:17:40] <Noob> Win10 is literally a
malware by all the traits of a malware
L681[11:17:50] <Noob> Even RMS says that
:D
L682[11:17:55] <scj643> Well I'm stuck
with that
L683[11:18:11] <scj643> Thank god I can
use Ubuntu
L684[11:18:35] <Izaya> Ubuntu is malware
according to RMS
L685[11:18:46] <Izaya> What distro does
RMS approve?
L686[11:18:56]
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L687[11:19:02] <Izaya> Gentoo?
L688[11:19:11] <scj643> Chose not to
because 1 video playback is better on windows 2 some games 3 visual
studio 4 MS Office 5 onedrive (have 1TB)
L689[11:19:20] <Noob> Well yeah, RMS
complains about everything. But he never called any OS literally
"a virus" before haha
L690[11:19:28] <Izaya> well true
enough
L691[11:19:34] <Izaya> he especially hates
Windows 10
L692[11:19:37] <Izaya> with good
reason
L693[11:19:52] <scj643> Switches to
windows server as main OS
L694[11:20:07] <Inari> lets all use
templeOS
L695[11:20:19] <Izaya> I'm running 2012 R2
with Classic Shell as my Windows
L696[11:20:21] <Izaya> Though
L697[11:20:29] <Izaya> it's been >11
days since I last shut down Linux
L698[11:20:31] <scj643> Lol
L699[11:20:50] <Noob> I use temple OS
streams when I cant fall asleep
L700[11:20:56] <scj643> I can get server
2012 for free since I have dreamspark
L701[11:21:10] <scj643> Really need to get
a system to mess with it
L702[11:21:10] <Izaya> I can too. Pirated
it anyway.
L703[11:21:17] <scj643> Don't have
to
L704[11:21:30] <brandon3055> Vexatos, Is
there a way to give the peripheral a custom name on the oc side
like getType on the cc side?
L705[11:21:32] <scj643> Although I do have
source code to a kms emulator
L706[11:22:13] <Noob> But seriously how
much money microsoft gonna earn now with all the datamining
business with Win10 and also selling its copies for the same price
as usual?
L707[11:22:17] <scj643> My digital life
forums is the place to go to get tools for cracking and hacking
windows
L708[11:22:41] <Izaya> Noob, divide
Google's income in half
L709[11:22:45] <Izaya> That's what I
estimate
L710[11:22:54] <Izaya> At least for a few
years
L711[11:23:33] <Noob> Where the hell
they're wasting this money? Why they even need so much? This
company itself is a virus IRL
L712[11:23:34] <scj643> As long as they
don't break my system I'm fine
L713[11:23:52] <scj643> They need money to
please the norms
L714[11:24:29] <scj643> To make holo
lense
L715[11:24:35] <Vexatos> brandon3055,
yes
L716[11:24:47] <Vexatos> implement
NamedBlock on your ManagedEnvironment as well
L717[11:25:09] <brandon3055> Thanks
L718[11:25:17] <Vexatos> and set the
priority accordingly
L719[11:25:24] <Vexatos> the higher the
number, the higher the priority
L720[11:25:35] <Vexatos> The name with the
highest priority will be chosen
L721[11:25:43] <Vexatos> also, if multiple
envs add the same callback methods
L722[11:25:51] <Vexatos> the one with the
highest priority will be chosen too
L723[11:26:39] <brandon3055> ok in this
case there is only going to be one name for each peripheral so dose
it really matter what i set the priority to?
L724[11:26:50] <Vexatos> well
L725[11:26:55] <Vexatos> if you have a
driver for some superclass
L726[11:27:06] <Vexatos> for instance the
IExtendedRFStorage one
L727[11:27:08] <Izaya> we should do
like
L728[11:27:15] <Vexatos> it should have a
lower priority than the ones on the actual block
L729[11:27:16] <Izaya> open-source, cheap,
augumented reality gear
L730[11:27:22] <Vexatos> as the name will
be more generic
L731[11:27:30] <brandon3055> and what
would be a high priority? 10, 100, 1000?
L732[11:28:04] <Vexatos> 1 is high already
:P
L733[11:28:09] <Vexatos> Again, check my
integration folder
L734[11:28:11] <Vexatos> in
Computronics
L735[11:28:24] <Vexatos> I recommend the
EnderIO one
L736[11:28:30] <Vexatos> it has a lot of
drivers for superclasses etc
L737[11:28:43] <Vexatos> if you want to
guarantee your block name gets chosen, do something like 10
L738[11:28:49] <Vexatos> I never got to 10
in my integration
L739[11:28:55] <Vexatos> 5 at most, I
think :P
L740[11:29:06] <Vexatos> there's not much
inflation there
L741[11:29:16] <Noob> Actually I dont
really believe VR has like a big future
L742[11:29:20] <Vexatos> I think I am the
only one using the priority system >_>
L743[11:29:29] <Vexatos> Noob, that's
right
L744[11:29:30] <Vexatos> because
L745[11:29:30] <Noob> It feels like it's
just an industry driven only by WOW-effect
L746[11:29:34] <Vexatos> VR IS the
future
L748[11:31:08] <Noob> Not everyone is good
with VR gear, it's not really comfortable since you have to wear
glasses that completely prevent you from seeing anything, and... I
dont know theres just not too much reason to it except "WOW
ITS SO COOOOL"
L749[11:31:39] <Izaya> That's why
augumented reality
L750[11:31:58] <Noob> Oh, sorry didn't
notice you meant AR not VR :3
L751[11:32:05] <vifino> Vexatos:
haaalp.
L752[11:32:08] <Noob> Yeah AR makes more
sense
L753[11:32:12] <Izaya> VR is cool
L754[11:32:15] <Izaya> but I want AR
L755[11:32:20] <vifino> I have politics.
wat is current topic that i can write about.
L756[11:32:38] <Noob> Thats the problem,
VR is just cool.... It's not really useful or anything
L757[11:32:39] <vifino> oh help me dear
Vexatos D;
L758[11:33:45] <Noob> If VR becomes a
normal thing like a mouse nobody will be having WOW-effect anymore
so people will just doubt reason of having VR gear when theres a
good monitor
L759[11:34:15] <Vexatos> vifino,
whatisgoingon
L760[11:34:29] <Vexatos> oh, uuh
L761[11:34:29] <vifino> Vexatos: politics
homework ;_;
L762[11:34:38] <Vexatos> refugees?
L763[11:34:39] <Vexatos> :P
L764[11:34:53] <Vexatos> The new bus
stops
L765[11:35:03] <Noob> Write about
"thanks obama"
L767[11:35:33] <Vexatos> Wouldn't hurt to
read the news for once
L768[11:35:46] <vifino> Vexatos: too much
politics to handle ;_;
L769[11:35:49] <Vexatos> or just watch the
tagesschau24 live stream
L770[11:35:59] <Vexatos> maybe the VW
drama?
L771[11:36:21] <Izaya> Anyone else end up
just using music and video as background noise for doing something
else?
L772[11:37:13] ***
rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L774[11:38:25] <vifino> Vexatos: help
;_;
L775[11:38:46] <Vexatos> if (tile
instanceof IDEPeripheral) isn't even needed
L776[11:38:59] <Vexatos> DriverTileEntity
already does the instance check for you
L777[11:39:07] <vifino> ohGOD
L778[11:39:18] <vifino> something in my
office started beeping
L779[11:39:22] <vifino> like a bomb
L781[11:39:28] <vifino>
wataaaafaaaaaaak
L782[11:39:30] <Vexatos> also, uhm,
brandon3055
L783[11:39:35] <Vexatos> you mixed stuff
up there
L784[11:39:42] <brandon3055> ok wasnt sure
so better safe then ClassCastException lol
L785[11:39:45] <Vexatos> you have the
driver and the peripheral in the same class .-.
L786[11:39:48] <brandon3055> i did?
L787[11:39:54] <Vexatos> I mean
L788[11:39:56] <Vexatos> in the same
file
L789[11:40:07] <Vexatos> That's confusing
because the driver is equal to the peripheral provider
L790[11:40:14] <Vexatos> yet you have the
peripheral and the driver in the main file
L791[11:40:37] <Vexatos> The peripheral
class should rather be external
L792[11:40:42] <Vexatos> and the
peripheral provider in that class
L793[11:41:23] <brandon3055> oh.. i see
oops
L794[11:41:28] <Vexatos> also
L796[11:41:35] <Vexatos> you see your derp
there? ;)
L797[11:41:50] <Vexatos> Oh, also that's a
massive derp right there
L798[11:41:59] <Vexatos> you accidentally
implemented ManagedEnvironment
L799[11:42:03] <Vexatos> the
interface
L800[11:42:09] <Vexatos> instead, you need
to extend the prefab class
L801[11:42:15] <Vexatos> and get rid of
all the unused methods down there
L802[11:42:17] <Temia> Mooooooo.
L803[11:42:24] <Vexatos> It will not work
without a Node
L804[11:42:26] <Temia> oh hey.
L805[11:42:29] <brandon3055> oh i
see
L806[11:42:34] <Vexatos> and the prefab
class will do the node stuff for you
L807[11:42:44] <brandon3055> what is the
prefab class called?
L808[11:43:06] <dangranos> ugh
L809[11:43:24] <dangranos> pen that skips
just alittle at clompletely random time is just so damn
frustrating
L810[11:43:33] <Vexatos> brandon3055,
ManagedEnvironment
L811[11:43:38] <Vexatos> but it is in
api.prefav
L812[11:43:42] <Vexatos> api.prefab*
L813[11:43:45] *
vifino pets Temia
L814[11:43:46] <Vexatos> instead of
api.driver
L815[11:43:55] <Vexatos> err, instead of
api.network
L816[11:43:57] <Vexatos> >_>
L817[11:43:57] *
Temia leans into. =.=
L818[11:44:08] <Vexatos> vifino, I made
three suggestions
L819[11:44:14] <Vexatos> AND linked you
the tagesschau website
L820[11:44:18] <Vexatos> I can't do
more
L821[11:44:57] <Temia> Moo?
L822[11:45:08] <vifino> Vexatos: Thanks
for that, it helped me out to even ave something to look for. I
just suck to do things like that ._.
L823[11:45:28] <vifino> i know *nothing*
about politics
L824[11:45:29] <Vexatos> I like it
L825[11:45:32] <Vexatos> it's fun
stuff
L826[11:45:40] <Vexatos> you can randomly
brag with your knowledge
L827[11:45:49] <Vexatos> I have no place
to brag at anymore ;_;
L828[11:45:50] <vifino> >_>
L829[11:45:53] *
Vexatos misses school
L830[11:46:06] <vifino> Vexatos: this is
irc, brag here
L831[11:46:06] <Vexatos> five months of
pure boredom. not fun
L832[11:46:18] <dangranos> five?
L833[11:46:22] <dangranos> lucky
L834[11:46:53] <Vexatos> vifino, sodium
bisulfate can be used to lower pH of soil, it's used in gardening.
you can "cook" it into sodium pyrosulfate which is
useless and then into sodium sulfate which is a decent
fertiliser
L835[11:46:59] <Vexatos> good
enough?
L836[11:47:05] <Temia> So what's going on
here? .3.
L837[11:47:21] *
Vexatos checks the "spread random knowledge"
box
L838[11:47:22] <vifino> Vexatos: yes
yes
L839[11:47:28] *
dangranos pats temia
L840[11:47:38] <vifino> Temia: me being
stupid at politics ._.
L841[11:47:42] <vifino> and other
stuff
L842[11:49:19] <Izaya> ... inxi has
options for getting the local weather
L843[11:49:21] <Izaya> what the fuck
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L845[11:49:33] <dangranos> huh
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L847[11:49:57] <brandon3055> Vexatos: ok
think i fixed everything
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L850[11:51:39] <Vexatos> uhm
L852[11:51:44] <Vexatos> still there
L853[11:52:16] <brandon3055> err... maby
reload the page? its not on my end
L854[11:52:35] <Vexatos> still there for
me
L855[11:52:37] <Vexatos> master
branch
L856[11:52:45] <Vexatos> did you actually
push? :P
L857[11:52:45] <brandon3055> yea
L858[11:52:51] <Vexatos> at least you
extend the correct class now
L859[11:53:11] <Vexatos> Oh, btw, I need
to tell you about a slight difference in the Object[]
returned
L860[11:53:15] <Vexatos> from both
mods
L861[11:53:18] <brandon3055> i had to mess
around with the page a bit to get it to update but yes i did push
it
L862[11:53:19] <Vexatos> if you want to
return a table
L863[11:53:23] <Vexatos> you must use a
Map
L864[11:53:29] <Vexatos> Only OC accepts
List or Set instances
L865[11:53:32] <Vexatos> CC only accepts
Map
L866[11:53:47] <Vexatos> also, your CC
peripheral is lacking something
L867[11:54:10] <Vexatos> Your return
peripheral.callMethod needs to be wrapped around a try/catch
L868[11:54:24] <brandon3055> oh yea forgot
about that
L869[11:54:26] <Vexatos> catch(Exception
e) {throw new LuaException(e.getMessage());}
L870[11:54:34] <Vexatos> as CC only
accepts those
L871[11:54:47] <Vexatos> those are the
only things left to fix I think
L872[11:55:26] <Vexatos> also, I'd set the
priority to 10 I think, that will mean that your name will ALWAYS
be preferred
L873[11:55:31] <Vexatos> (it being the
most descriptive one)
L874[11:59:23] <brandon3055> Ok well
Thankyou for your help! Im going to call it a night but im sure i
will have more questions for you tomorrow :)
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L878[12:14:17] <Noob> Godammit how come
that so popular xmppy got no API doc whatsoever?
L879[12:14:51] <Sangar> evening o/
L880[12:15:17] <Lizzy> Noob, welcome to
python
L881[12:15:26] <Noob> Haha ._.
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L883[12:16:19] <Vexatos> Hi Snagar
L884[12:16:21] <Vexatos> I have an
issue
L885[12:16:35] <Sangar> i have... 80
L886[12:16:48] <Vexatos> there are waay
too few behaviors. It's pretty much guaranteed that one of your
inputs is connected to my new one
L887[12:16:57] <Vexatos> Or maybe 22
inputs are just too many
L888[12:17:22] <Vexatos> And you can't
really make a behavior rare
L889[12:17:26] <Sangar> well, the number
inputs scales with the number of behaviors :P
L890[12:17:28] <Vexatos> you can just make
it more common
L891[12:17:57] <Sangar> i suppose the
default ratio could be lowered somewhat tho
L892[12:18:28] <Vexatos> Is there a limit
on the number of behaviors per input?
L893[12:18:33] <Sangar> 2
L894[12:18:46] <Vexatos> what's the chance
for it to have 2
L895[12:19:38] <Sangar> since there's more
behaviors than inputs, 100% :P
L896[12:20:48] <Sangar> so yeah, i guess i
could lower it to 0.3-0.4-ish
L897[12:22:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, maybe
have fiewer overall behaviors per configuration
L898[12:22:25] <Noob> Reading xmppy
"documentation" by reading whole source code of that
library ._. awesome
L899[12:22:45] <Sangar> Vexatos, that
would be the effect of that, yes :P
L900[12:23:07] <Vexatos> So far I have
eaten 4 nanomachine sets
L901[12:23:15] <Vexatos> and got my new
behavior 3 out of 4 times
L902[12:23:34] <Vexatos> on random inputs,
of course
L903[12:24:35] <Vexatos> Also, Sangar,
what do you think about it consuming 1 OC per tick while it's
controlling bees? Too little? too much?
L904[12:25:22] <Sangar> Vexatos, fine i
guess - each active input consumes 0.5 btw
L905[12:25:32] <Vexatos> yea, I saw that
in the config
L906[12:25:39] <Vexatos> I guess I can
make it scale too
L907[12:25:51] <Vexatos>
Nanomachines.getController(player).getInputCount(this) * -1.0
L908[12:25:52] <Vexatos> :P
L909[12:26:03] <Sangar> if it scales, 0.75
:P
L910[12:26:25] <Noob> err, bee
controlling?
L911[12:26:57] <Vexatos> Noob, you heard
nothing.
L912[12:27:04] <Vexatos> it was all your
imagination
L913[12:27:15] <Vexatos> Sangar, I am
pondering on hiding the behavior
L914[12:27:40] <Noob> s/imag/beemag
L915[12:27:40] <Kibibyte> <Vexatos>
it was all your beemagination
L916[12:27:50] <Vexatos> 1 heart per
attack, almost impossible to defeat, though easy to hide from and
almost useless in tight spaces
L917[12:28:00] <Vexatos> 1 heat per active
input, that is :P
L918[12:28:34] <Vexatos> I am hoping that
2 active inputs is a rare thing >_>
L919[12:28:38] <Vexatos> 2 inputs in
general
L920[12:29:07] <Vexatos> if I made it
hidden, you wouldn't even know
L921[12:29:16] <Vexatos> without trying so
many times it's not really worth it anymore >_>
L922[12:29:18] <Sangar> well, at least
it's kinda hard to detect
L923[12:29:29] <Vexatos> but... the
diggery is hidden too
L924[12:29:30] <Vexatos> sooo
L925[12:29:32] <Vexatos> hmm
L926[12:29:39] <Sangar> :P
L927[12:29:43] <Vexatos> Well, mine can't
be detected at all
L928[12:29:45] <Sangar> diggery is easy to
see tho
L929[12:29:50] <Vexatos> unless you
randomly choose to shift-right click an apiary
L930[12:29:54] <Sangar> main intent there
was to avoid automating it
L931[12:29:56] <Vexatos> because who
doesn't do that every so often
L932[12:29:57] <Vexatos> >_>
L933[12:29:59] <Sangar> but up to
you
L934[12:30:16] <Vexatos> I would like an
indicator that you have it, sure
L935[12:30:32] <Sangar> hear some buzzing
when it onEnables? :P
L936[12:30:34] <Vexatos> But I do think
it's a little too poweful against players
L937[12:30:38] <Vexatos> unless you are
able to hide
L938[12:30:41] <Vexatos> then it's
useless
L939[12:31:06] <Sangar> maybe make the
bees take damage when attacking (a player at least)?
L940[12:31:10] <Sangar> would even make
sense
L941[12:31:13] <Sangar> since they can
only sting once
L942[12:37:53] <Sangar> brb, food
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L944[12:39:16] <Temia> Wait, bees?
L945[12:39:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, but it's
so many of them .-.
L946[12:44:19] <RaptorJeebus> hey Sangar
did you see the idea i proposed earlier?
L947[12:45:26] <Vexatos> Actually
L948[12:45:36] <Vexatos> Sangar, it's half
a heart per hit per active input
L949[12:45:40] <Vexatos> so not nearly as
bad
L951[12:51:19] <vifino> err
L952[12:51:22] <vifino> actuaaally
L954[12:51:23] <MichiBot> vifino:
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L955[12:51:29] <vifino> but linkofdeath is
also good
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L957[13:00:01] <ProbablyKodos> uwot
L958[13:01:40] <Temia> umoo.
L959[13:01:57] *
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L968[13:17:55] <vifino> Oh god. The final
day is near.
L969[13:18:06] <vifino> Emacs has a window
manager now.
L970[13:18:12] <vifino> Like, X11 window
manager.
L971[13:18:35] <Noob> What emacs doesnt
have?
L972[13:19:04] <vifino> An editor.
L973[13:19:53] <Noob> Oh yeah
L974[13:20:06] <Noob> It would be awesome
if Emacs actually could edit files...
L975[13:20:20] <Noob> It would be like,
best program on Earth..
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L977[13:24:36] <vifino> I'mma go home
now.
L978[13:24:46] *
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L979[13:24:52] <Lizzy> wee
L980[13:24:56] <ProbablyKodos> I'ma go
drive to Astoria now and go see the Goonies house
L981[13:25:05] <ProbablyKodos> Pics
Soon(TM)
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L983[13:31:04] <Sangar> RaptorJeebus,
hmm?
L984[13:31:37] <RaptorJeebus> whatchu
think of making the nanomachines also act like the glasses from
openperipherals, since they could in theory interfact with your
optic nerve
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L986[13:32:01] <RaptorJeebus>
interface*
L987[13:32:37] <Sangar> ehh, maybe a super
simple variant, like text only or so
L988[13:32:40] <Vexatos> Sangar, not sure
whether I should add the suicide.... hmmm+
L989[13:32:45] <Vexatos> surely only
against players
L990[13:32:54] <Vexatos> but.. it's half a
heat per input
L991[13:32:58] <Vexatos> per attack
L992[13:33:06] <Vexatos> so a player would
already survive 10 seconds easily
L993[13:33:09] <Sangar> depends on how
imba you think it is :P i honestly don't think it's that bad,
because... well
L994[13:33:10] <RaptorJeebus> text only
would be cool, and maybe a command interface like the glasses $$
thing?
L995[13:33:12] <Sangar> armor and
stuff
L996[13:33:20] <Vexatos> it ignores
armor
L997[13:33:28] <Sangar> define glasses ##
thing
L998[13:33:31] <Sangar> $$
L999[13:33:37] <Sangar> Vexatos, oh
:P
L1000[13:33:43] <Vexatos> you're dead on
in a planes biome
L1001[13:33:43] <Sangar> then maybe make
it not?
L1002[13:33:50] <Vexatos> but you can
easily hide in a forest
L1003[13:33:50] <RaptorJeebus> with the
OP glasses on, you can make commands using $$ as the prefix and it
won't show up in chat
L1004[13:33:56] <RaptorJeebus> and it
fires an event to the computer
L1005[13:33:59] <Vexatos> as soon as they
lose line of sight
L1006[13:34:02] <Vexatos> they forget
about you
L1007[13:34:08] <Vexatos> just like real
bees
L1008[13:34:15] <Vexatos> that's my
point
L1009[13:34:16] <Sangar> RaptorJeebus,
ehhh, make vex add that to the chatbox
L1010[13:34:37] <RaptorJeebus> would that
even be possible, it'
L1011[13:34:48] <Vexatos> Them taking
damage would mean I could make at most 30 attacks with a
swarm
L1012[13:34:54] <Sangar> chatbox upgrade
in tablet -> tablet to nano
L1013[13:34:56] <RaptorJeebus> it's nice
because it's hidden in chat with the $$ thing
L1014[13:35:00] <Sangar> idk
L1015[13:35:01] <RaptorJeebus> ah
L1016[13:35:13] <Vexatos> oh, don't
forget the fact that it needs an apiary nearby to even summon the
bees
L1017[13:35:22] <RaptorJeebus> well it
was more so i don't have to wear the glasses taking up an armor
slot XD
L1018[13:35:26] <Vexatos> so you can turn
apiaries into legit PbB weapons now, Sangar :D
L1019[13:35:30] <Sangar> Vexatos, does
creating the swarm consume the queen? probably not, right? if so,
just get more then :P
L1020[13:35:30] <Vexatos> PvB*
L1021[13:35:37] <Vexatos> it
doesn't
L1022[13:35:42] <Vexatos> Yea, of
course
L1023[13:35:50] <Vexatos> but remember
the apiary needs to be working
L1024[13:35:56] <Vexatos> i.e. flowers
nearby, right biome, etc
L1025[13:35:58] <Sangar> ah, well
L1026[13:36:07] <Vexatos> so if your bee
is not working at night
L1027[13:36:10] <Vexatos> and it's just
about dusk
L1028[13:36:14] <Vexatos> :P
L1029[13:36:16] <Sangar> then... idk. 10%
chance to lose health when attacking or so? :P
L1030[13:36:20] <Vexatos> hmmm
L1031[13:36:34] <Vexatos> well, unless
you are the summoner you can attack them anyway
L1032[13:36:41] <Vexatos> doing up to one
heart per hit
L1033[13:36:58] <Vexatos> so it does
survive 15 hits
L1034[13:37:02] <Vexatos> err, 14
L1035[13:37:05] <Vexatos> after 15 it's
dead
L1036[13:37:06] <Vexatos> :P
L1037[13:37:19] <Vexatos> and the lower
the health gets, the fewer bees are in the swarm
L1038[13:37:35] *
Vexatos loves the amount of detail in this
L1039[13:37:53] <Vexatos> oh, and if the
colony is not tolerant to rain, the swarm will die during the
rain
L1040[13:38:05] <Vexatos> and it will
obviously die when it or the owner is in water .-.
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L1042[13:39:43] <Vexatos> I don't
know
L1043[13:39:48] <Vexatos> there is lots
of ways for them to die
L1044[13:39:55] <Vexatos> and lots of
places where they are useless
L1045[13:40:10] <Vexatos> so I am really
not sure whether I should make them commit suicide on players
:/
L1046[13:40:34] <Vexatos> it does make
sense
L1047[13:40:56] <Vexatos> but on the
other hand a swarm (visually) contains a lot of bees
L1048[13:41:04] <Vexatos> so a single
death doesn't make that much of a difference
L1049[13:43:41] <Turtle> o/
L1050[13:45:54] <Turtle> hmh, weird,
still having that fps issue
L1051[13:47:22] <Sangar> Vexatos, oh,
then maybe the fewer they are, the higher the chance they
"miss" when attacking?
L1052[13:47:32] <Vexatos> not sure
L1053[13:47:36] <Vexatos> bees aren't
blind
L1054[13:47:39] <Vexatos> unless you hide
from them
L1055[13:48:02] <Vexatos> TIL bee in
greek is μέλιττα (mélitta)
L1056[13:48:31] <Sangar> ...
L1057[13:48:33] <Sangar> isn't that
coffee?
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L1059[13:49:33] <Turtle> It is
L1060[13:50:15] <Turtle> Named after the
person who invented the coffee filter though.
L1061[13:50:22] <Vexatos> Sangar,
exactly
L1062[13:51:11] <Sangar> Vexatos, /oc_dn
incoming
L1063[13:51:18] <Vexatos> ,-,
L1064[13:51:44] <Vexatos> /oc_dn
uhm_behviors_don_thave_a_unique_inden_oh_wait_they_do
L1065[13:51:54] <Sangar> no, just
that
L1066[13:52:03] <Sangar> will generate
one input per behavior and log the mapping to the console
L1067[13:52:10] <Vexatos> oooooh
L1068[13:52:11] <Sangar> (with hintname
and classname)
L1069[13:52:21] <Vexatos>
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
L1070[13:52:22] <Vexatos>
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
L1071[13:52:27] <Vexatos>
ooooooooooooooooooooooo[...]oooooh
L1072[13:54:43] <Vexatos> "%1$s died
a painful apitoxic death. Probably deserved it."
L1073[13:54:52] <Vexatos> still don't
have any decent death message >_>
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L1075[14:07:11] <Sangar> death messages
are hard
L1076[14:09:51] <Vexatos> indeed
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L1078[14:23:40] <Vexatos> "stop
being creative" snagar please
L1079[14:24:09] <scj643> Only if pocket
edition could have full mod support
L1080[14:24:43] <scj643> OC on pocket
would be "interesting"
L1081[14:25:22] <Vexatos> glhf getting
Lua on that
L1082[14:25:40] <Sangar> :P
L1083[14:35:39] <Turtle> It´s pretty easy
getting lua running on android, getting it to run inside PE might
be trickier though :P
L1084[14:37:58] <ds84182> Something
something dlopen
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L1086[14:50:59] <Turtle> Hmh, is there a
reliable way to remove BOMs from file strings?
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L1088[14:51:36] <tiin57> scj643: OC on PE
would be agonizing. Maybe on MC Win10
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L1101[15:16:49] *
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L1113[15:39:39] <Turtle> is there a
recommended way of implementing sleep into OSes?
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L1117[15:43:13] <v^> Turtle, use events
and co-routines
L1118[15:44:36] <Turtle> Do you happen to
have an example? (If you don´t happen to have one on hand, or know
where I should look, don´t worry, I´ve worked with co-routines
before a bit)
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L1120[15:51:29] <Turtle> Got it working
with just events, thanks.
L1121[15:51:52] <Inari> Turtle: OC
OSes?
L1122[15:52:33] <Turtle> yeah, see the
channel we´re in? :P
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L1124[15:56:13] <scj643> Minecraft on iOS
pe would be a pain
L1125[15:56:51] <scj643> My secondary
mouse is dead
L1126[15:58:24] <scj643> I'll be on the
mumble server and my MC server
L1127[15:59:20] <Inari> sigh
L1128[15:59:26] <Inari> search stuff is a
pain to write :P at least the way im doing it :D
L1129[15:59:32] <Turtle> Hmm?
L1130[16:00:01] <Inari> and its totally
not a good way xD
L1132[16:00:25] <Turtle> oh, yeah,
xD
L1133[16:00:53] <scj643> To manny ends to
figure out
L1134[16:00:54] <Inari> screw dynamic
searches for now
L1135[16:01:13] <scj643>
Mc+touchpad=death
L1136[16:01:21] <Inari> how does the
amount of ends relate
L1137[16:01:40] <scj643> You have to keep
track of them
L1138[16:01:59] <Inari> thats what
indentation is for
L1139[16:02:22] <scj643> Visually
impaired can't line it up
L1140[16:02:35] <Inari> copypaste into
editor that has lines :D
L1141[16:04:35] <Inari> not that you have
to figure it out, its broken and bad code anway
L1142[16:05:42] <scj643> Want to test on
my server?
L1143[16:05:52] <Inari> nah, creative sp
it easier :P
L1144[16:05:56] <Inari> *is
L1145[16:06:18] <scj643>
Http://scj643.softether.net/mc/mods.7z
L1146[16:06:24] <scj643> The server is
creative
L1147[16:06:30] <Inari> keyword being
sp
L1149[16:06:37] <gamax92>
mods.7z.zip.rar.gz
L1150[16:06:41] <Inari> but a creative OC
server sound sinterestingish
L1151[16:06:57] <Inari> still, fro
writing code SP is superior
L1152[16:07:29] <scj643> MP is better if
you have shit hardware
L1153[16:07:42] <scj643> I also have a
mumble server
L1154[16:07:51] <scj643>
Scj643.softether.net
L1155[16:08:22] <scj643> If anyone is
interested
L1156[16:09:10] <scj643> Why is their v^
and ^v
L1157[16:09:30] <scj643> Someone should
make tmux somehow
L1158[16:09:40] <v^> <l "i am a
robot. beep boob beep boop"
L1159[16:09:41] <^v> v^, i am a robot.
beep boob beep boop
L1160[16:09:49] <scj643> Lol
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L1163[16:10:58] <scj643> Needs to be
shorter :D jk
L1164[16:13:36] <Inari> has slightly less
functioanlity than the other one would have had, but eh
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L1166[16:13:56] <Inari> (the step
function i linked earlier was only a small part of the other anyway
xD)
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L1171[16:17:14] <scj643> Hi s3
L1172[16:17:21] <CompanionCube> S3,
yo
L1173[16:18:18] <S3> We have a
problem
L1174[16:18:29] <S3> Scj should know
about it already
L1175[16:18:45] <scj643> Didn't log in
yet
L1176[16:19:35] <scj643> Do you mind
getting on mumble?
L1177[16:20:24] <scj643> Oh forgot to
launch it
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L1179[16:21:15] <scj643> Oh the ping to
scj.theender.net is horrid
L1180[16:21:40] <S3> Is that Lizzy's
server?
L1181[16:21:59] <scj643> Yep
L1182[16:22:06] <S3> Why ping so
bad
L1183[16:22:16] <S3> Also my headset is
at work
L1184[16:22:24] <S3> To far.. Is 5 minute
walk
L1185[16:22:34] <scj643> Wow
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L1187[16:23:08] <scj643> How good is the
ping to your servers
L1188[16:23:25] <gamax92> terrible ping,
3248ms
L1189[16:23:49] <gamax92> because S3
lives in the middle of nowhere and uses wifi on the very edge
L1190[16:24:01] <scj643> Lol
L1191[16:24:08] <S3> I do not
L1192[16:24:33] <S3> Do a ping to
9600-baud.net
L1193[16:24:45] <S3> Scj643 ^
L1194[16:25:11] <S3> It's be slightly
high due to being across the ocean but should still be low
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L1196[16:26:52] <S3> I get a ping of 90
ms
L1197[16:27:00] <scj643> I get a ping of
100
L1198[16:27:05] <S3> Which is low
considering it is in France
L1199[16:27:13] <S3> And I am in the
us
L1200[16:27:52] <scj643> Both of the
servers have about the same ping
L1201[16:28:13] <scj643> My VPS from
digital ocean is faster though
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L1206[16:30:58] <Lizzy> is the server
having ping issues?
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L1208[16:31:26] <scj643> No
L1209[16:31:36] <scj643> My wifi does but
that's Comcast
L1210[16:31:44] <Lizzy> ah
L1211[16:32:16] <scj643> The digital
ocean VPS that I have for my mumble gets like 30ms from where I
am
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L1213[16:33:36] <Inari> empty server that
isnt creativemode :<
L1214[16:34:10] <scj643> It's not
creative until I give you it
L1215[16:34:23] <scj643> For good reasons
too
L1216[16:34:36] <scj643> I'm not at the
console now
L1217[16:35:00] <xPucTu4> Lizzy
L1218[16:35:22] <Lizzy> yes?
L1219[16:35:49] <xPucTu4> 2 days ago you
added a ban in the channel because i joined a bot here
L1220[16:35:49] <scj643> Inari: you can
rejoin I'm in the console now
L1221[16:36:11] <xPucTu4> i readed the
channel rules and don't want to break them anymore
L1222[16:36:26] <Lizzy> good
L1223[16:36:33] <Lizzy> also i forgot we
had mode +z
L1224[16:36:48] *** Lizzy sets mode: -b
*!*yahoo@Nebuchadnezzar.Pleven-DaGe.Net
L1225[16:36:53] <xPucTu4> thanks
you
L1226[16:37:50] <Inari> istn that
implying that you wanted to break them ;D
L1227[16:39:00] <xPucTu4> no, it is
implying that most people don't read rules until it's too
late
L1228[16:39:05] <xPucTu4> like me
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L1230[16:39:21] <Inari> :p
L1231[16:39:39] <Lizzy> at some point in
the future we'll have a bot that tells you about them on your first
join
L1232[16:39:44] <scj643> Link to the
rules is broken
L1233[16:40:02] <Lizzy> nope
L1234[16:40:08] <Inari> works fine for
me
L1235[16:40:15] <scj643> Link
L1237[16:40:52] <scj643> Sorry we
couldn't find that page
L1239[16:41:36] <scj643> That works
L1240[16:41:37] <Inari> *shrug* loads
fine for me with the link in there
L1241[16:41:45] <Lizzy> Inari, same
L1242[16:42:06] <Inari> is your client
cutting off the last "-" when clicking on it or
somehting
L1243[16:42:21] <scj643> I think it is
cutting it off
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L1245[16:45:13] <scj643> I like this rule
13. The channel ops are required to be Sarcastic at all
times.
L1246[16:45:20] <Inari> that somewhat
explains :P except i dunno why the forum software would need the
last "-"
L1247[16:46:59] <scj643> Anyone want to
hop on mumble
L1248[16:47:00] ***
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L1250[16:50:45] <scj643> Lizzy: you ever
have a chance to get on the pack?
L1251[16:51:41] <scj643> I get sa
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L1253[16:54:50] <scj643> ICWiener: want
to join my mumble and mc server
L1255[16:55:30] <scj643> Yes
L1256[16:55:41] <scj643> Server is
up
L1257[16:56:00] <scj643> We might need to
make one more bot for the channel someday
L1258[16:56:12] <scj643> One to check MC
server statuses
L1259[16:56:34] <S3> Why you use WiFi if
you are at home
L1260[16:56:38] <S3> Scj643
L1261[16:56:55] <scj643> Router is on the
other side of the apartment
L1262[16:57:12] <scj643> And I'm on a
laptop and I like being in my room
L1263[16:57:24] <scj643> Makes
sense
L1264[16:57:31] <S3> Not really?
L1265[16:57:50] <scj643> Can't move the
Comcast gateway into my room
L1266[16:57:53] <S3> I put in cat5 in my
apartment
L1267[16:58:09] <scj643> Mom wouldn't do
that
L1268[16:58:15] <S3> Why not?
L1269[16:58:23] <S3> It helps update the
place
L1270[16:58:36] <scj643> Doesn't want a
cable on the ground
L1271[16:58:46] <scj643> Or on the
ceiling or wherever
L1272[16:58:50] <S3> No no
L1273[16:58:59] <S3> I put in jacks
L1274[16:58:59] <Lizzy> scj643, a mc
server statuc command is planned for the successor to
EnderBot2
L1275[16:59:04] <scj643> We rent
L1276[16:59:06] <Lizzy> which has gone
again
L1277[16:59:06] <scj643> We can't
L1278[16:59:07] <S3> Snakes cst5 through
the real
L1279[16:59:14] <S3> Well
L1280[17:00:18] <scj643> 120 ms to the
server
L1281[17:00:21] *
vifino flops on Lizzy and purrs
L1282[17:00:22] <S3> Most do say you
can't
L1283[17:00:23] <S3> But that doesn't
usually count as a modification.
L1284[17:00:23] <S3> Most places just
don't want you treating out a wall
L1285[17:00:42] <S3> And vifino needs to
get a room
L1286[17:00:53] *
Lizzy snuggles vifino
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L1289[17:01:21] <scj643> Lol
L1290[17:01:25] <S3> Vifino how old are
you now BTW? You gotta be getting up there now :P
L1291[17:01:46] <Lizzy> he's 3 years
younger than me
L1292[17:02:14] <scj643> Anyone want to
or have time to hop on the pack
L1293[17:02:24] *
Lizzy is going to bed
L1294[17:02:34] *
Lizzy reverses the rolls and flops on vifino
L1295[17:02:43] <S3> I can not
L1296[17:02:43] <S3> I'm on a bus
L1297[17:02:46] <S3> And there is this
pregnant woman smoking
L1298[17:02:48] <Lizzy> scj643, how's the
server performance?
L1299[17:02:50] <S3> It's
disgusting
L1300[17:02:59] *
vifino carries Lizzy to her bed
L1301[17:03:08] <Lizzy> *our
L1302[17:03:11] <Lizzy> ::P
L1304[17:03:15] <scj643> Lizzy the server
is great
L1305[17:03:22] <Lizzy> i appear to have
gained eyes
L1306[17:03:26] <Lizzy> scj643, good to
hear
L1307[17:03:28] <scj643> Kspigot is a
pain
L1308[17:03:29] *
Lizzy falls asleep
L1309[17:03:40] <scj643> Just went with
forge and forge essentials
L1310[17:03:49] <S3> OK I think that is
way too much for this channel... Lol
L1311[17:04:31] <scj643> Damn there is a
buildcraft update
L1313[17:04:43] <S3> Don't do it!
L1314[17:06:05] <scj643> Not doing
it
L1315[17:06:15] <scj643> Would cost me
bandwidth
L1317[17:06:33] <S3> OK what kind of
connection do you have.
L1318[17:06:52] <scj643> VPS that I host
the pack files on has a 1TB cap
L1319[17:07:17] <S3> You will not use 1TB
in a month
L1320[17:07:21] <Lizzy> scj643, you can
host the files on the vps i gave you if you like
L1321[17:07:34] <S3> That's a sit mega
ton of data
L1322[17:07:42] *
Lizzy falls asleep again
L1323[17:07:45] <scj643> like 50 MB
compressed
L1324[17:07:58] <scj643> Also my VPS gets
faster speeds
L1325[17:08:14] <S3> You could also use
torrents. That's what they are meant for
L1326[17:08:34] <scj643> Yeah but do you
think the average person would want to do that
L1327[17:08:47] <vifino> Oh you, Lizzy,
go to bed! :P
L1329[17:09:08] <vifino> S3: I appear to
be getting attatched to FreeBSD.
L1330[17:09:25] <scj643> Noooooo
L1331[17:09:39] <vifino> Last night I was
sitting there for one and a half hour tweaking kernel
variables.
L1332[17:09:47] <scj643> Damn
L1333[17:09:55] <scj643> I don't think I
want to do that
L1334[17:10:17] <vifino> scj643: Come to
the dark side. We have /dev/crypto.
L1335[17:10:34] <scj643> Yeses
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L1338[17:10:45] <S3> Scj643 torrents
account for 50 - 70% of all internet traffic:)
L1339[17:11:00] <scj643> vifino: want to
bring the dark side to my server
L1340[17:11:07] <scj643> Are you for real
S3
L1341[17:11:16] <scj643> How much of it
is legal though
L1342[17:11:51] <S3> I'm a network
engineer :P also much of it is not legal sadly
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L1347[17:12:07] <vifino> oh god.
L1348[17:12:08] <scj643> Wonder how much
is anime p
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L1351[17:12:24] <S3> No idea
L1352[17:12:35] <Ender> uh, Lizzy's gonna
need to look at that
L1353[17:12:41] <S3> I watch most of my
anime on Netflix and hulu
L1354[17:12:57] <scj643> I have to pirate
mine because it's on neither sadly
L1355[17:13:31] <vifino> Ender: I told
her already, I think she'll look at it tomorrow though.
L1356[17:13:34] <scj643> I use a private
tracker though no links
L1357[17:13:38] <vifino> Since she really
has to sleep.
L1358[17:13:43] <S3> Not even on
funimation?
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L1360[17:13:55] <scj643> Yeah
L1361[17:13:59] <vifino> S3: /dev/crypto
is awesome :)
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L1363[17:14:08] <EnderBot2> Ohai there
Lizzy
L1364[17:14:08]
zsh sets mode: +o on Lizzy
L1366[17:14:16] <S3> Never played with
it
L1367[17:14:17] <vifino>
LIZZY!!!!1111¹¹¹¹¹¹
L1368[17:14:22] <scj643> Also video
quality is better when torrented
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L1371[17:14:30] <Lizzy> no idea what the
fuck happened
L1372[17:14:35] <scj643> Since it's the
blu Ray source
L1373[17:14:35] <S3> I watch it on a
TV
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L1376[17:14:43] <S3> So I don't even
notice
L1377[17:14:56] <scj643> Also I use it to
make wallpaper
L1378[17:15:02] <S3> Once you are across
the room
L1379[17:15:04] <scj643> So need it in
good 1080p
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L1382[17:15:28] <S3> I usually use
wallpaper with nature
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L1384[17:15:33] *
vifino carries Lizzy over his shoulder and carries her to
bed
L1385[17:15:36] <scj643> Also No credit
ops and eds are blu rat only
L1386[17:15:38] <S3> But maybe that's
just a sign of getting older
L1387[17:15:46] <vifino> You have to
sleep, angel.
L1388[17:16:01] <S3> Considering I'm
really close to turning 30
L1389[17:16:06] <scj643> Ray Ray you
freaking iPad
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L1391[17:16:38] <vifino> S3: /dev/crypto
is basically an ioctl away to run cryptography.
L1392[17:17:08] <vifino> Beauty of it is
that it is in the kernel and the device which actually runs it
depends on what the kernel is configered to.
L1393[17:17:21] <S3> Yay almost
home
L1394[17:17:31] <scj643> Good
L1395[17:17:47] <vifino> For example with
`aesni_load="YES"` you can use AES-NI instructions of
your fancy intel chip.
L1396[17:17:51] <scj643> I can ride the
busses for free since I'm visually impaired
L1397[17:18:08] <scj643> Not my pentium
b970
L1398[17:18:55] <vifino> Thing is, using
AES-NI instructions instead of openssl means around 3x
performance.
L1399[17:19:25] <vifino> AAAND it's not
running as a piece of software, but rather as a cpu
instruction.
L1400[17:19:28] <vifino> aka yay!
L1401[17:21:53] <scj643> Waiting for
people to talk in IRC is agonizing
L1402[17:28:25] <S3> Be more
patient
L1403[17:29:13] <S3> Also that's pretty
cool vifino
L1404[17:29:39] <scj643> Lol
L1405[17:29:50] <S3> So maybe the data
card should show up as /dev/crypto on OCBSD?
L1406[17:30:04] <S3> Vifino^
L1407[17:50:22] <vifino> S3: Yes, yes it
should.
L1408[17:50:29] <scj643> Tell me when
anyone is planing on getting on
L1409[17:54:37] <vifino> S3: do you have
an ioctl system already?
L1410[17:55:03] <vifino> just like
ioctl(2)
L1411[17:56:18] <ds84182> OpenOS should
use tabs instead of spaces.
L1412[18:02:51] <Inari>
<flamewar>
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L1414[18:02:57] <scj643> How would you
wrap a block?
L1415[18:03:14] <scj643> Get methods for
Railcraft boiler
L1416[18:04:37] <scj643> Anyone want to
get on the server we got a new builder
L1417[18:04:49] <scj643> He is new to
mods thogh
L1418[18:05:10] <ds84182> Inari: It's
perfectly sane, it would actually use less hard drive space
L1419[18:05:25] <ds84182> You know, since
OC uses two spaces to do one indent level
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L1422[18:09:41] *
Dashkal implements a RLE compression filesystem and makes that
argument moot
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L1424[18:14:47] <ds84182> Dashkal: RLE
doesn't work for something thats two bytes
L1425[18:14:55] <ds84182> it will end up
using two bytes still
L1426[18:17:03] <Inari> ~oc text
L1428[18:17:21] <Inari> ds84182: i dont
think its really about if its sane or not xD
L1429[18:17:50] <Dashkal> indeed, won't
help for a single line of indentation. Works great for any
further.
L1430[18:17:58] <Dashkal> single step of
indentation*
L1431[18:18:28] <Inari> ds84182: here's a
perfectly sane idea
L1432[18:18:31] <Inari> save wihtout
indentation
L1433[18:18:34] <Inari> maximum size
savage
L1434[18:18:42] <ds84182> Inari: in
fact
L1435[18:18:45] <ds84182>
luasrcdiet
L1437[18:19:19] <vifino> it works
L1438[18:19:19] <Inari> *luaminify
L1439[18:19:21] <vifino> omg
L1440[18:19:38] <ds84182> Eh, must be
new
L1441[18:19:39] <Inari> vifino: except
when images
L1442[18:19:47] <vifino> Inari:
pfft
L1443[18:20:59] <vifino> oh god you are
right
L1444[18:21:03] <vifino> images are
messed up
L1445[18:21:12] <vifino> like, they
dissapear
L1446[18:23:37] <vifino> but darn it
looks perfect on 90% of the sites
L1447[18:23:48] <vifino> well, many sites
i commonly visit
L1448[18:25:56] <scj643> Anyone want to
get on the server and help
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L1451[18:30:52] <CompanionCube> burn
it
L1452[18:31:24] <scj643> That must
die
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L1455[18:43:26] <scj643> Anyone plan on
getting on tonight
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L1458[18:46:23] <scj643> ^v
L1459[18:49:16] <scj643> calclavia: you
up?
L1460[18:49:51] <scj643> asie: you
up
L1461[18:53:14] <scj643> Anyone
alive
L1462[18:53:24] <scj643> Don't tell me
the zombies are coming
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L1465[19:01:24] <scj643> Hello anyone
home?
L1467[19:02:24] <v^> its only like 8 PM
on the east coast
L1469[19:02:43] <scj643> Yeah
L1470[19:03:05] <scj643> That might make
my new iPad background
L1471[19:05:49] <scj643> I want to mess
with drones on my server but don't know the basics
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L1474[19:09:04] <scj643> Server is
quite
L1475[19:14:29] <Inari> can someone
explain complementary/triad colour stuff
L1477[19:20:24] <scj643> That is ugly as
hell
L1478[19:27:25] <scj643> Is the switch
deprecated
L1479[19:29:17] <Inari> scj643: well it
was my point that its ugly as hell
L1480[19:29:35] <scj643> Took you that
long to respond :D
L1481[19:31:55] <scj643> Ping?
L1482[19:34:04] <vifino> I'm getting a
better ping to my server than to google, hah.
L1483[19:34:21] <vifino> and i thought
all would be equally bad
L1484[19:36:05] <scj643> Lol
L1485[19:36:19] <scj643> Took you 3
minutes to reply to mine
L1486[19:36:51] <vifino> I didn't reply
to your message.
L1487[19:37:20] <vifino> I just pinged my
server because my internet is mocking up as usual.
L1488[19:37:41] <scj643> Lol
L1489[19:37:59] <scj643> I sometimes
their is this thing called a life
L1490[19:46:12] <scj643> OC. Has lua
5.3
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L1500[20:03:36] <S3> scj643: Compiling
mumble :D
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L1502[20:07:06] <S3> hey
Starhero-MC
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L1506[20:35:41] <scj643> Hey was taking a
shower
L1507[20:40:03] <scj643> s3 your getting
on?
L1508[20:44:14] <scj643> S3? Poke
poke
L1509[20:45:13] <S3> I will in a
sec
L1510[20:45:15] <S3> iut just
finished
L1511[20:46:15] <scj643> What os do you
use again
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L1513[20:48:43] <S3> FreeBSD
L1514[20:51:34] <scj643> What are the
benefits of compiling all your software
L1515[20:52:50] <S3> whats the
details?
L1516[20:52:58] <S3> on the server
L1517[20:53:02] <scj643>
Scj642.softether.net
L1518[20:53:06] <scj643> 643
L1519[20:53:11] <scj643> Not 642
L1520[20:53:35] <S3> what por
L1521[20:53:38] <S3> port*
L1522[20:53:46] <scj643> Default
L1523[20:53:56] <scj643> Shouldn't need
to enter it
L1524[20:54:32] <S3> I expected more
people!
L1525[21:02:19] <ProbablyKodos> I'm
sad
L1526[21:02:52] <ProbablyKodos> The
Goonies House had tarp all over it, and when I went to walk down
the road to it, the house's neighbors cussed at me, flipped me off,
and told me to get away
L1527[21:16:25] <Ekoserin|Off> I'm
bored.
L1528[21:19:25] <Izaya> scj643, what
format is your pack in?
L1530[21:20:04] <Izaya> is it like a
MultiMC instance or..?
L1531[21:21:10] <Mimiru> ProbablyKodos, I
take it you've not kept up on that story, have you?
L1532[21:21:43] <ProbablyKodos> I read
about it today
L1533[21:21:52] <ProbablyKodos>
Specifically, how people trashed it after Goonies 2 was
announced
L1534[21:26:49] <scj643> It's multi mc
you need to make a new 1.7.10 instance with the latest forge and
add the mods and configure
L1535[21:27:30] <Izaya> You can package a
full instance, you know?
L1536[21:27:46] <Izaya> Then import it
over http
L1537[21:28:17] <scj643> I know it my VPS
has bandwith caps
L1538[21:43:47] <Izaya> lemme finish
taming this turtle
L1540[21:47:42] <MichiBot> S3:
A
Russian tractor driver refuses to give up after his vehicle gets
stuck in a river. | length
2m 47s | Likes:
25190 Dislikes:
2070 Views:
16317913 | by ben Adler
L1541[21:47:47] <S3> scj643: ^
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L1544[21:48:12] <S3> skip to 0:40
L1545[21:49:20] <S3> actually
L1546[21:49:21] <S3> 1:40
L1547[21:51:43] <Izaya> scj643,
link?
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L1552[22:11:15] <ProbablyKodos> ~w
transposer
L1554[22:11:21] <ProbablyKodos> ~w
nanomachine
L1556[22:11:30] *
ProbablyKodos slaps rashy
L1557[22:11:30] *
EnderBot2 high-fives ProbablyKodos
L1558[22:11:41] <rashdanml> ow
L1559[22:11:49] <ProbablyKodos> Not you
=P
L1560[22:12:04]
zsh sets mode: +v on ProbablyKodos
L1561[22:12:39] <rashdanml> xD
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L1564[22:14:56] <scj643> Ip is
scj.theendr.net
L1565[22:15:04] <ProbablyKodos>
theender*
L1566[22:15:23] <Izaya> right then
L1567[22:15:30] <Izaya> I guess I should
install java
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L1569[22:20:53] <Izaya> yus
L1570[22:21:00] <Izaya> 2MB/s with the
AARNet mirror
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L1572[22:24:45] <Izaya> installing
libpng12
L1573[22:30:08] <Izaya> I'm going to
regret running ARK and MC at the same time
L1574[22:30:16] <Izaya> I was already
over into swap
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L1577[22:36:27] <Izaya> # SIGSEGV (0xb)
at pc=0x00007f5ac6c17700, pid=12955, tid=140029465433856
L1578[22:36:41] <Izaya> apparently MC
doesn't like running across 3 monitors
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L1580[22:39:23] <Izaya> the only issue
with this 3 monitors business
L1581[22:39:34] <Izaya> yeah okay I
forgot what I was gonna say
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L1584[22:43:33] <Izaya> ~w relay
L1586[22:50:32] <S3> there is no relay in
the doc
L1588[22:50:34] <S3> afaik
L1589[22:53:16] <Izaya> gah
L1590[22:55:45] <scj643> The program was
hard-info
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