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L1[00:02:41] <ocdoc> DB Update Detected,
reloading ..
L2[00:02:41] <ocdoc> Everything's cool
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L7[00:24:38] <dangranos> wat
L8[00:25:17] <dangranos> so, there is a
method to get sqlite connection
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L13[00:50:21] <v^> dangranos, ib what
L14[00:50:40] <dangranos> ?
L15[00:50:52] <dangranos> well, i have no
idea what happens to it
L16[00:51:24] <dangranos> i have two
classes that use that method and one fo them doesn't works because
"connection is closed"
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L20[01:00:57] <ProbablyKodos> Hot
damn
L21[01:01:05] <ProbablyKodos> I may just
start using EIO again
L22[01:03:54] <Izaya>
ooooooooooooooooooooo
L23[01:06:57] <Izaya> You could have like
redstone and liquid and power in the same block
L24[01:07:22] <ProbablyKodos> Admittedly,
I've never actually used conduits before
L25[01:07:29] <Izaya> I have a few
times.
L26[01:07:34] <Izaya> Usually end up using
BC though
L27[01:07:44] <ProbablyKodos> I usually end
up falling back onto Mekanism
L28[01:07:56] <ProbablyKodos> I haven't
really found a suitable replacement for the Logistical Sorter
yet
L29[01:13:17] <Izaya> I want to make a
sorting machine with a computer at some point
L30[01:13:48] <ProbablyKodos> Izaya: why a
computer? Transposers can be stuck into MCUs now
L31[01:15:58] <Izaya> Really?
L32[01:16:13] <Izaya> Problem solved,
then!
L33[01:16:14] <ProbablyKodos> Mhm
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L41[01:39:13] <dangranos> ha
L42[01:39:15] <dangranos> found it
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L44[01:53:03] <ProbablyKodos> TARDIS Mod
looks wicked
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L46[02:29:02] *
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L47[02:29:24] <Vexatos> Or anyone here,
really
L48[02:30:11] <Vexatos> does anyone have
any idea for pointing at things in Minecraft without using a custom
item? Pointing with an empty hand doesn't work thanks to how MC
works :(
L49[02:30:35] <ProbablyKodos> Are you
wanting other people to see what you're pointing at?
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L52[02:36:55] <HokeyPokey> =D
L53[02:39:38] <HokeyPokey> o7
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L62[03:21:51] <Vexatos> IT WORKS
L63[03:21:53] <Vexatos>
MWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
L64[03:22:01] <Vexatos> And it looks sooo
coool ;_;
L65[03:22:37] <Roadcrosser> ?
L66[03:25:08] <Roadcrosser> what is
it
L67[03:26:24] <Vexatos> wow this is
kewl
L68[03:26:28] <Roadcrosser> what is
it
L69[03:26:36] <Vexatos> can't wait for
forestry 4 to get released so I can actually do this ;_;
L70[03:26:42] <Roadcrosser> what is
it
L71[03:26:50] <Vexatos> A new beehavior for
nanomachines
L72[03:26:57] <Vexatos> :^)
L73[03:26:57] <Roadcrosser> k
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L77[03:58:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Do you think
Fedora (KDE Spin) or (K)ubuntu is easier for a Linux newb?
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L90[06:14:59] <RaptorJeebus> anyone know of
a pack with just OC+OC addons?
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L95[06:23:17] <Sangar> o/
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L112[08:08:57] <S3> Whee its Eko
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L114[08:17:05] <Lizzy> %isup
thor.theender.net
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L120[08:26:25] *
vifino snuggles Lizzy
L121[08:26:59] *
Lizzy snuggles vifino
L122[08:27:36] <vifino> Whatcha doing
angel? :)
L123[08:28:07] <Lizzy> trying to see if i
can work out what's used all of thor's ram making it dip into swap
and lock up when it does so
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L126[08:34:39] <Lizzy> yay
L127[08:34:45] <Lizzy> it's swapping
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L129[08:37:31] <Noob> Anyone knows any
minimalistic yet modular jabber server one could easily run on RPi?
:P
L130[08:38:40] *
Lizzy might do but she can't recall the name
L131[08:39:18] <Noob> I tried ejabberd but
im tired of it's weird config and unreadable logs
L133[08:40:23] <Lizzy> i think i used it
in the past but can't remember experience with it
L134[08:55:32] <Mimiru> I'm using
OpenFire, not sure it meets the minimalistic thing though lol
L135[08:55:56] <Izaya> Noob, Prosody is
Lua
L136[08:56:20] <Noob> I kinda wanted to
make a chatlogging thing, preferably serverside :P
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L139[09:17:16] <S3> #js [] + {}
L140[09:17:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
"[object Object]"
L141[09:17:21] <S3> #js {} + []
L142[09:17:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0
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L147[09:40:10] <Izaya> #js type([] +
{});
L148[09:40:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > type is
not defined
L149[09:40:16] <Izaya> never mind
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L153[09:56:57] <Inari> hm
L154[09:57:03] <Inari> what was the
"spawn computer" command again xD
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L156[09:57:57] <scj643> Server is up
L157[09:58:00] <Inari> damn,m deosnt seem
to be in this verison
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L159[09:58:23] <Vexatos> Inari,
/oc_sc
L160[09:58:23] <Mimiru>
oc_spawnComputer
L161[09:58:29] <Mimiru> Though I forget
which 1.5 version added it..
L162[09:58:31] <Vexatos> Mimiru, too many
characters
L163[09:58:34] <Vexatos> :P
L165[09:58:44] <Mimiru> 1.5.14
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L167[09:59:23] <scj643> Whoops
L168[09:59:53] <scj643> Now the link will
work
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L170[10:01:36] <scj643> How do I leave
tmux and keep my server up
L171[10:02:09] <Izaya> Ctrl-b d
L172[10:03:06] <scj643> So if I exit my mc
server will stay up good
L173[10:03:24] <Lizzy> yep
L174[10:04:13] <Inari> ooooo
L175[10:04:17] <Inari> i got a new
creative feature idea
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L182[10:22:00] <Inari> hi tanĪ
L183[10:28:56] <SuPeRMiNoR2>
Triforce!
L184[10:29:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> How do you
triforce
L185[10:31:45] <Inari> hrm where does
openos cache packages again xD
L186[10:32:44] <Inari> ah
package.loaded
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L188[10:42:10] <Lizzy> scj643, you gave
the pack url but not the server address :P
L189[10:45:00] <Inari> ~oc textutils
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L192[10:54:20] <scj643> The server address
is scj.theender.net
L193[10:56:17] <Inari> so much
TableUtils.clone() will be needed x.x
L194[10:57:40] <Lizzy> :P
L195[10:57:58] <Inari> but i dont wanna
hand out references to my database because then the callee could
change data accidentally
L196[10:58:12] <Inari> or wait
L197[10:58:13] <Inari> caller?
L198[10:58:23] <Inari> yeah ,caller
L199[11:01:19] *
Vexatos pokes Sangar
L200[11:01:28] <Antheus> ][
L201[11:01:35] <Ekoserin> []
L202[11:01:45] <Antheus> }{
L203[11:01:49] <Ekoserin> {}
L204[11:01:53] <Antheus> )(
L205[11:01:58] <Ekoserin> ()
L206[11:02:02] <Antheus> ><
L207[11:02:24] <Ekoserin> <>
L208[11:02:32] <Antheus> hmm
L209[11:02:38] <Antheus> \/
L210[11:03:01] <Lizzy> /\
L211[11:03:16] <Ekoserin> Um
L212[11:03:24] <Ekoserin> I wasn't able to
speak briefly.
L213[11:03:28] <Antheus> le
L214[11:03:29] <Antheus> l
L215[11:03:35] <Antheus> db
L216[11:03:41] <Antheus> so
L217[11:03:43] <Lizzy> qp
L218[11:03:46] <Antheus> What to
play
L219[11:03:56] <Ekoserin> Besiege
L220[11:04:12] <Antheus> I have to do
trickey steam stuff to get it to recgnoize it
L221[11:04:17] <Antheus> afdgag
L222[11:04:33] <Antheus> Wello, Galatic
Science it is
L223[11:04:41] <Antheus> also
L224[11:04:51] <Antheus> new Doctor Who
episode: 7/10
L225[11:07:45] <Vexatos> o/
PatataTrampat
L227[11:14:51] <scj643> Is he server
up
L228[11:15:15] <Lizzy> yep
L229[11:15:18] <Lizzy> i think
L230[11:15:25] *
Lizzy goes test
L231[11:15:31] <Antheus> Howdy
Vexatos
L232[11:15:37] <scj643> I need to learn
how to use tmux
L233[11:15:49] <Lizzy> i can help with
that
L234[11:16:46] <Lizzy> yup, server is up
scj643
L235[11:17:18] <scj643> Ok
L236[11:17:54] <scj643> I did tmux Ctrl+c
b now I need to get back into the console
L237[11:18:09] <Lizzy> do you mean ctrl+b
d?
L238[11:18:30] <Lizzy> to get back to a
tmux session, do tmux a
L239[11:19:07] <scj643> Ok thanks
L240[11:19:25] <scj643> That works
L241[11:19:26] <scj643> Good
L242[11:19:29] <Lizzy> ya
L243[11:19:33] <scj643> Just shut it down
for now
L244[11:21:11] <scj643> I need my id_rsa
if I'm going to connect from a different computer
L246[11:21:58] <scj643> To connect via
ssh
L247[11:23:01] *
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L248[11:23:03] <Lizzy> you can always
generate another key on the other computer then put it's public key
(id_rsa.pub) in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
L249[11:23:38] <scj643> Ok
L250[11:23:57] <scj643> I could make a key
in XCA
L251[11:24:36] <scj643> RSA keys work
right?
L252[11:25:15] <Lizzy> they have to be
ssh-rsa keys
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L254[11:28:10] <scj643> Is their a
difference
L255[11:28:39] <Lizzy> assuming XCA is
stuff for HTTPS SSL/TLS stuff, yes
L256[11:29:05] <scj643> XCA is for
OpenSSL
L257[11:29:15] <Lizzy> then yes
L258[11:29:38] <DeanIsaKitty>
Mathematically there is not, but they are stored in different ways,
so compatability is not guaranteed
L259[11:31:32] <scj643> Oh
L260[11:31:38] <scj643> I'll look at
that
L261[11:32:24] <DeanIsaKitty> openssh uses
PEM as encoding, OpenSSl - and XCA for that matter - uses PEM, DER
or PCKS depending on your settings.
L262[11:33:04] <DeanIsaKitty> But to
generate openssh keys you can simply use `ssh-keygen -t rsa -b
4096` to generate keys.
L263[11:33:08] <scj643> Yeah also OpenSSH
uses ssh-RSA in front of the key
L264[11:33:09] <DeanIsaKitty> ...
L265[11:33:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Me and
sentences
L266[11:33:41] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, i
think rsa is the default for ssh-keygen
L267[11:33:43] <scj643> Though RSA private
keys are not different
L268[11:34:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy:
Probably. I don't know, I don't use RSA.
L269[11:34:22] *
Lizzy cant remember what she uses
L270[11:34:28] <Lizzy> i think it's
ecdsa
L271[11:34:39] <Lizzy> or something else
beginning with ec
L272[11:34:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Over a NSA
curve?
L273[11:35:13] <DeanIsaKitty> EcDSA
probably, yes.
L274[11:35:26] <Lizzy> yeah, laptop has
both ecdsa and rsa keys
L275[11:35:36] <Lizzy> i think my servers
have both sets in them
L276[11:35:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Currently
supportes is ecdsa, dsa, rsa, rsa1 and ed25519
L277[11:36:02] <Lizzy> i think i had a
ed25519 key somewhere
L278[11:36:20] <Lizzy> i think that was
what my laptop used before i fucked it's partition table with
dd
L279[11:37:23] <scj643> What's the current
password?
L280[11:37:31] <scj643> Since I sign in
through ssh
L281[11:37:37] <Lizzy> er, 1234
L282[11:37:38] <Lizzy> i think
L283[11:37:42] <Lizzy> unless you changed
it
L284[11:38:06] <Lizzy> if you havent yet,
run passwd to change it to something you can remember
L285[11:38:09] <scj643> Ok it's
changed
L286[11:38:11] <Lizzy> i don't need to
know it
L287[11:38:36] <scj643> I know
L288[11:38:53] <scj643> If I do reboot
will it work
L289[11:39:21] <scj643> Rebooting
L291[11:39:40] <Lizzy> yes but why do you
need to?
L292[11:40:07] <S3> scj643: wait a
minute.. what OS do you use?
L293[11:40:23] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: A linux
derivate
L294[11:40:26] <Lizzy> Ubuntu
L295[11:40:29] <scj643> I use Ubuntu but I
was talking about the VPS
L296[11:40:32] <S3> then why is he
rebooting?
L297[11:40:42] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: because
he has no idea?
L298[11:40:45] <scj643> Said system needs
to reboot
L300[11:40:49] <Lizzy> why?
L301[11:40:49] <scj643> For updates
L303[11:40:53] <Lizzy> oh
L304[11:40:55] <S3> you don'tneed to
reboot for thast
L305[11:41:00] <S3> that*
L306[11:41:04] <Lizzy> kernel updates,
S3
L307[11:41:09] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Kernel
updates for <4.0
L308[11:41:11] <S3> yeah./ you don't need
to reboot for that
L309[11:41:18] <Lizzy> yeah, give it a
reboot scj643
L310[11:41:19] <S3> you can use a
kexec
L311[11:41:55] <scj643> Lizzy you don't
have a bandwidth cap do you
L312[11:41:56] <S3> kexec will save the
state of processes, like hibernation, then boot a new kernel, jump
into it, and load state
L313[11:42:02] <S3> you've never done
that?
L314[11:42:03] <Lizzy> none that i know
of
L315[11:42:04] <scj643> Lol
L316[11:42:14] <Lizzy> S3, nope
L318[11:42:22] <S3> it's dangerous but
it's fun
L319[11:42:25] <scj643> What is the
throughput thinking about putting the files on the VPS
L320[11:42:35] ***
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L322[11:43:05] <scj643> Instead of my VPS
that has 512 MB of ram a 1 TB cap
L323[11:43:06] <S3> say good byte to
reboots on kernel updates :)
L324[11:43:29] <S3> it's slightly more
involved than just that but kexec is the basis
L325[11:43:49] <Lizzy> the host has
200MB/s throuput line and the VM is a KVM so it's pretty
decent
L326[11:44:03] <S3> I use Xen
L327[11:44:14] <scj643> Ok wonder how well
digital offer is
L328[11:44:17] <scj643> Ocean
L329[11:44:26] <S3> digital ocean now has
FreeBSD support
L330[11:44:34] <Mimiru> I'd suggest
Vultr
L332[11:44:45] <Lizzy> Mimiru, he has a
VPS on my server :P
L333[11:45:10] <Lizzy> Athar that is, not
janus
L334[11:45:10] <scj643> The files for the
pack are on a digital ocean server
L335[11:46:08] <scj643> That's what
scj643.softether.net
L336[11:46:25] <scj643> That is a
subdomain for the VPN project softether
L337[11:46:52] <S3> I really can't wait
until Xen dom0 support is stable on FreeBSD
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L342[12:16:05] <scj643> 1403 on 1.7.10 to
1448
L343[12:16:40] <Lizzy> should be
fine
L344[12:16:46] <Antheus> .jenkins
L345[12:16:46] <scj643> Ok
L346[12:16:49] <Antheus> .j
L347[12:16:54] <Antheus> %j
L348[12:16:56] <Antheus> !j
L349[12:16:58] <Antheus> ~j
L350[12:17:01] <scj643> Getting spigot is
a pain the stupid dmca bull
L351[12:17:02] <Antheus> >_<
L352[12:17:12] <Mimiru> dot dot dot
L353[12:17:12]
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L354[12:17:17] <Antheus> ...
L355[12:17:31] *
Antheus hugs Mimiru
L356[12:17:39] <Lizzy> where is
Ender
L357[12:17:45] <Lizzy> where is
EnderBot*
L358[12:17:46] *
Mimiru sighs and thanks Lizzy
L359[12:17:48] <Antheus> Ender ==
Lizzy
L360[12:17:52] <Lizzy> Nope
L361[12:17:59] *
DeanIsaKitty cuddles Mimiru
L362[12:17:59] <Mimiru> Lizzy ==
Lizzy
L364[12:18:15] <Antheus> Ender ->
Lizzt
L365[12:18:17] <Ender> u wot,
Antheus?
L366[12:18:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy ==
Goddess
L367[12:18:28] *
Ender brutally murders Antheus
L368[12:18:33] *
Lizzy blushes
L369[12:18:40] <Antheus> You can't kill
the son of a god
L370[12:18:56] <Mimiru> Mimiru ==
The.Almighty.Goddess.of.PC-Logix :P
L371[12:18:56] *
Ender screams "I CAN TRY"
L372[12:19:10] *
Antheus shoots Ender and goes back to downloading OC
addons
L373[12:19:13] <scj643> Anyone have a copy
of bukkit
L374[12:19:18] <scj643> With forge
L375[12:19:23] <Mimiru> scj643, kcauldron
look it up
L376[12:19:24] <Antheus> didn't bukkit get
DMCA'ed
L377[12:19:36] <Mimiru> Antheus, it
did.
L378[12:19:46] <Antheus> U S A
L379[12:19:48] <Antheus> U S A
L380[12:19:49] <Mimiru>
KCauldron-1.7.10-1492.155.zip is totally a thing though
L381[12:19:54] <Mimiru> cause... I have
it
L382[12:20:02] <Antheus> no hexchat, that
is not a link
L385[12:20:15] <Mimiru> If we're just
going to link it here.. lol
L386[12:21:46] <scj643> Tcpr.ca has the
more updated version
L387[12:22:27] <Lizzy> eh, the sourceforge
link was still open from when i gave it to you the other day
L388[12:23:11] <S3> SOPT is dropping multi
disk support in favor of giving more power to the operating system.
mixing Mr.FS with SOPT will allow you to easily chain boot RAID
clusters in OC without needing a complex MR. FS capable
EEPROM
L389[12:23:24] <S3> This is more generic
friendly for OCBSD
L390[12:23:33] <Antheus> Mimiru, are you
still updating OS?
L391[12:23:52] <Mimiru> Haven't recently..
been working. Why is something broken?
L392[12:24:01] <Antheus> just
wondering
L393[12:25:13] <Antheus> gurrrrr
L394[12:25:17] <Antheus> can't download
open glasses
L395[12:25:30] <Mimiru> Yeah, been doing
10+ hour days in way to hot weather to want to come home and
program
L397[12:27:39] <Lizzy> also scj643, if
it's any correlation, i backed up my laptop's ~ dir the other day
to athar, it's 30GB in size
L398[12:27:57] *
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L399[12:27:59] <Lizzy> not to mention i
buggered up the parameters in rsync so i had to do it again
L400[12:29:59] <scj643> Lizzy the builds
wouldn't run
L401[12:31:39] <Lizzy> gimmie a sec and
i'll ssh in to have a look
L402[12:32:30] <Mimiru> Ugh.. I have to
map a user's group id to group name in a single mysql query and
it's been ages since I've done a join
L403[12:35:59] <Lizzy> oh yay
L404[12:36:37] <Antheus> ur
L405[12:36:48] <Antheus> what's the java
command thingy to set the max permgen size
L406[12:36:58] <Antheus> isn't it like
-MxPermGen something
L407[12:36:59] <Lizzy>
-XX:MaxPermGen
L408[12:37:11] <Lizzy> i htink
L410[12:37:35] <S3> I'm kind of glad guys
I didn't go with GPT
L411[12:37:39] <Mimiru>
-XX:MaxPermSize=
L412[12:37:44] <S3> because GPT is way
overcomplex
L413[12:38:05] <S3> SOPT should be a lot
more useful
L414[12:39:22] <Antheus>
-XX:MaxPermSize=512m
L415[12:39:28] <Antheus> sop yah
L416[12:39:30] <Antheus> your right
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L418[12:43:12] <Lizzy> scj643, start up a
tmux session then try launching the builds
L419[12:43:20] <Lizzy> i'll join the
session and have a look
L420[12:48:03] <S3> I prefer to use screen
:D
L421[12:48:12] <S3> I guess because I am
old school
L422[12:48:23] *
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L423[12:48:35] <vifino> S3: >screen
>not tmux
L424[12:48:51] <Lizzy> eh, screen has it's
uses, tmux is much more flexible though
L425[12:48:53] <S3> well, I never liked
tmux much.
L426[12:50:42] <S3> since I have 8 ttys in
console, and most of the time I just rather have multiple ssh
sessions to a server, which I just put a few programs here and
there in detatched sessions, tmux never made much sense to me
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L430[12:52:18] <Vexatos> well, I guess
this works for now >_>
L431[12:52:24] <Vexatos> Sangar: I have a
problem :(
L432[12:53:13] <gamax92> #lua lib
"Vexatos"
L433[12:53:13] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
libvexatos.so.1.39.2
L434[12:53:32] <vifino> #lua lib
"gamax92"
L435[12:53:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
libgamax92.so.2.1.2
L436[12:53:38] <vifino> :D
L437[12:53:51] <scj643> Lizzy: going to be
playing minecraft on a touchpad this sucks
L438[12:54:04] <Lizzy> ha
L439[12:54:06] <scj643> Left my mouse at a
friends house
L440[12:54:09] <Lizzy> gl;hf
L441[12:54:40] <scj643> Could rig up my
aruduino ps2 controller to my computer
L442[12:55:06] <scj643> Use that because i
can't afford an Xbox controller :D and had it lying around
L443[12:55:19] <gamax92> #lua lib
"vifino"
L444[12:55:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
libvifino.so.1.9.2
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L446[12:56:03] <scj643> Need to figure out
a way to map my controller to my computers mouse buttons
L447[12:56:05] *
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L448[12:56:18] <scj643> Anyone have
experience with that in Ubuntu
L449[12:56:23] *
gamax92 hugs vifino
L451[12:59:22] <S3> so I really want to
jump into OCBSD dev in parallel with SOPT dev
L452[12:59:43] <S3> so what I think i will
do is provide support for FAT12 first and just run it off that so I
can just mount it from my bsd box
L453[12:59:50] <S3> off of floppy or
something
L454[13:00:35] <S3> more time deving the
os, less time preparing for VFS awesomeness
L456[13:01:24] <S3> This video is not
supported in your region
L457[13:02:06] <S3> what is
rocksmith
L458[13:02:27] <scj643> I'm going to be
setting up the server might end up going with a controller mod
though
L459[13:03:01] <S3> controller mod?
L460[13:03:57] <scj643> Only have a
touchpad it's to keep my sanity
L461[13:04:31] <Lizzy> S3: like guitar
hero but with real guitars
L462[13:04:38] <S3> Lizzy: oh that
one
L463[13:04:54] <S3> with that note, for
the first time in a few weeks I'm going to play guitar right
now
L464[13:05:05] <S3> because my pinky was
dislocated
L465[13:05:11] <S3> and it's starting to
get better
L467[13:06:25] <S3> there are cobwebs in
my amplifier rack
L468[13:11:31] <S3> here we go...
L469[13:11:43] <S3> let's see how the
appartment takes my 8000 watt power amplifier
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L472[13:13:45] <S3> pretty cool
Lizzy
L473[13:17:43] <scj643> Going to be using
a ps2 controller to play minecraft damn
L474[13:18:04] <S3> 9~WHY CANT TWITCH LOG
ME IN
L476[13:20:48] <S3> well that's
lame.
L477[13:20:54] <S3> I have no idea how to
get into my twitch account
L478[13:21:54] <scj643> Yes this
controller mod is not platform dependent
L479[13:22:14] <scj643> Can run it with my
hacked together play station 2 controller
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L483[13:29:10] <scj643> Something doesn't
like this mod in my pack
L484[13:33:29] <scj643> Maybe having it
load last will help
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L486[13:38:44] <gamax92>
"_G["_G"]._G["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]["_G"]._G["_G"]["d"
.. "r" .. "a" .. "w"]["R"
.. "o" .."u" .. "n" .. "d"
.. "e" .. "d" .. "B" .. "o"
.. "x"]"
L487[13:38:47] <gamax92> the fuck is this
code
L488[13:39:56] <S3> who wrote that
L489[13:40:15] <vifino> gamax92:
_G["draw"]["RoundedBox"]
L490[13:40:31] <vifino> but written by a
person who was high at that time
L491[13:40:40] <vifino> obviously.
L492[13:41:56] <scj643> Lol
L493[13:41:57] <S3> I miss having a
mixer
L494[13:42:10] <S3> I wonder how painful
the quality is on this android phone's mic
L495[13:44:15] <scj643> I love how rm -r
is so fast
L496[13:44:43] <S3> scj643: it might be
faster with find -print0
L497[13:45:20] <S3> also a lot of times
(filesystem dependant) when you rm a file it doesn't remove
it
L498[13:45:25] <S3> it just marks it as
unused space
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L500[13:45:56] <scj643> Don't need it to
completely remove it
L501[13:46:08] <scj643> Just want it gone
so I can overwrite it
L502[13:46:13] <S3> just explaining why it
is fast :_
L503[13:46:26] <scj643> Yeah
L504[13:46:33] <scj643> Wish windows had
that
L505[13:47:02] <S3> as much as I hate
Windows it probably does
L506[13:47:02] <scj643> They might but I
think it has to remove each file individually
L507[13:47:06] <S3> but NTFS is so
horrid
L508[13:47:11] <scj643> Yeah
L509[13:47:26] <scj643> Wish they used ext
or something else
L510[13:47:52] <scj643> Also when did ext
come out was it before or after ntfs
L511[13:48:17] <DeanIsaKitty> 1992 vs
1993
L512[13:48:22] <DeanIsaKitty> ext to ntfs
that is
L513[13:48:28] <scj643> Damn
L514[13:48:51] <scj643> I thought ntfs
came out around 2000
L515[13:48:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Nah
L516[13:49:10] <scj643> They should have
used ext
L517[13:49:20] <scj643> Or make it a
freaking option
L518[13:49:31] <S3> you can get ext
drivers for windows
L519[13:49:35] <S3> but it won't boot off
of it
L520[13:49:42] <scj643> Yeah I have those
drivers
L521[13:49:53] <S3> they finally support
ext4?
L522[13:49:55] <scj643> Wish it could boot
from an ext partition
L523[13:50:02] <scj643> Read only I
think
L524[13:50:02] <S3> last I used them only
ext2 was an option iirc
L525[13:50:03] <DeanIsaKitty> Uhm
L526[13:50:10] <DeanIsaKitty> You guys
just wait for Windows 10
L527[13:50:26] <S3> I have windows 10 on
another hard drive
L528[13:50:32] <S3> just like every othe
version of windows it sucks
L529[13:50:55] <DeanIsaKitty> I mean when
finally its finished. You know the windows development cycle.
L530[13:51:11] <S3> then it will never be
finished
L531[13:51:21] <S3> instead we'll have
another route of people practicing the ballmer peak
L533[13:51:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Anyways, a
version of W10 (don't exactly remember which one) containes native
ext drivers
L534[13:51:40] <DeanIsaKitty> gimme a sec
for source
L535[13:51:55] <scj643> What!!!!!!!
L536[13:51:59] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: some
enterprise version of 8 or something had ext drivers
L537[13:52:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah
here
L539[13:52:27] <vifino> some windows, dont
care enough to remember
L540[13:52:32] <DeanIsaKitty> I haven't
looked to closely into this anyway.
L541[13:52:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Just a heads
up for you two :)
L542[13:52:40] <scj643> That's to go
that's used from a USB
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L544[13:53:05] <S3> so I got a 3gpp to mp3
converter
L545[13:53:12] <S3> doesn't tell me where
the heck the converted mp3s go
L546[13:54:17] <S3> I wonder if android is
smart enough to use its headphone jack as a mic in
L547[13:54:22] <S3> for TS
connectors
L548[13:54:30] <S3> er TRS*
L549[13:57:24] <scj643> Modpack got
updated added open glasses
L550[13:57:35] <scj643> Compressing it
now
L551[13:58:28] <S3> scj643: hah.
L552[13:58:33] <S3> scj643: oh
L553[13:58:36] <S3> what mod adds
antiblocks
L554[13:58:48] <S3> because I could set up
my black antiblock + openglasses VR setup
L555[13:58:54] <S3> I built a tracking
room
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L558[14:07:03] <scj643> The pack is white
listed right now
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L561[14:09:01] <scj643> Lizzy: what is
your MC name
L562[14:09:12] <Lizzy> LizzyTheSiren
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L570[14:14:05] <scj643> What plugins
should I have
L571[14:15:06] <scj643> Essentials is a no
brainier
L572[14:16:14] <AndroUser2> Slots and
blackjack in a sign
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L575[14:19:46] <scj643> No economy
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L577[14:24:58] <scj643> Going to be using
multiverse and plot me
L579[14:25:33] <S3> I -just- got audio
recording to work to a "goodnuff"
L580[14:25:34] <Mimiru> A word of warning
with Multiverse.. if you use a forge mod to move between dims you
have a very strong chance of crashing.
L581[14:25:54] <scj643> Ok we don't
L582[14:26:07] <scj643> Afaik OC mods and
cc don't do that
L583[14:26:40] <scj643> Unless extra utils
will clash with it
L584[14:26:43] <Mimiru> Bukkit's
multiworld works differently from forge's and moving to a bukkit
loaded multiworld causes issues with Dimension Providers
L585[14:27:06] <Mimiru> I know, as I had
to add bukkit compat to LanteaCraft
L586[14:27:26] <scj643> Wow
L587[14:27:48] <scj643> Need to use
plotme
L588[14:29:44] *
Lizzy needs to get herself a breadboard, some resistors and other
small electrical stuff
L589[14:30:19] <S3> I have like 50
breadboards
L590[14:30:34] <S3> you can get them for
free a lot of places
L591[14:30:37] <scj643> I have 1
L592[14:30:53] <Lizzy> S3, define 'a lot
of places'
L593[14:31:04] <scj643> I need to get a
soldering iron to solder together my hacked together ps2
controller
L594[14:31:09] <S3> usually tech clubs
and
L595[14:31:11] <S3> shows
L596[14:31:15] <scj643> And more colored
wires
L597[14:31:26] <S3> scj643: I just use
telephone wire usually :D
L598[14:31:27] <scj643> So I can color
code it with my arduino
L599[14:31:41] <scj643> So telephone wire
wouldn't work
L600[14:31:46] <Lizzy> my cat is having a
hairball
L602[14:32:09] <S3> I have an arduino but
I have an ATMega 324 which I prefer to use
L603[14:32:27] <S3> I wouldn't ever use an
arduino for something other than testing myself
L604[14:34:12] <scj643> It works pretty
well
L605[14:35:47] <Temia> Well seeing as how
Arduinos are pretty much just the ATmega with some support
hardware...
L606[14:36:04] <scj643> Dang plotme isn't
working
L607[14:40:44] <scj643> Got it
working
L608[14:40:53] <ScrewDapples> Is there a
way to sense players in a specific area?
L609[14:42:04] <scj643> Dang it
failed
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L611[14:44:01] <Lizzy> scj643, do you
realise the server isn't started in the tmux session?
L612[14:45:16] <scj643> Yeah
L613[14:45:29] <scj643> Using a regular
ssh session to test
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L616[14:46:20] <scj643> Multiverse is a
pain
L617[14:46:32] <scj643> Need to make a
plot world for the server
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L619[14:46:52] <scj643> Any ideas
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L624[14:51:38] <scj643> This will be
useful for setting up plot stuff and a huge network of OC using
telephone poles
L625[14:53:47] <scj643> Anyone know about
plotme
L626[14:53:50] <Lizzy> nope
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L628[14:55:24] <scj643> There is a
multiworld mod
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L630[14:55:44] <scj643> For forge but
getting plots is going to be hard
L631[14:55:56] <Mimiru> I use FE..
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L633[14:56:51] <scj643> Forge essentials
doesn't help
L634[14:56:52] <Turtle> Is there a known
issue with FPS tanking randomly? (Note: Sep 5th version)
L635[14:57:39] <Turtle> *Tanking when
opening the interface of one of the machines (computer case, etc),
although not consistently reproduceable
L636[14:59:45] <scj643> Need a way of
using plotme
L637[15:02:10] <scj643> Anyone have a
clue
L638[15:04:57] *
vifino nibbles on Lizzy
L639[15:05:29] *
Lizzy nyahs
L640[15:06:10] <scj643> Well plot worlds
are out
L641[15:06:18] <scj643> Dang really wanted
to get that working
L642[15:06:53] <vifino> plot twist: plot
worlds
L643[15:07:03] <Temia> Well, I can think
of one workaround
L644[15:07:06] <Temia> RFtools? :D
L645[15:07:54] <scj643> Would help if I
setup the bukkit config file right
L646[15:08:27] <cloakable> forge :D
L647[15:08:42] <vifino> fudge.
L648[15:08:47] <vifino> Always
fudge.
L649[15:11:06] <S3> I just recorded
something twice over for fun
L652[15:11:28] <S3> I recorded it
clean
L653[15:11:31] <S3> then recorded over it
heavy
L654[15:11:45] <vifino> Who needs fun when
you got..
L655[15:11:48] <vifino>
FUN!!!
L656[15:12:23] <S3> so it looks like I can
play guitar without hurting my pinky too much
L657[15:12:56] <gamax92>
FUCK
L659[15:13:38] <cloakable> haha
L660[15:14:03] <cloakable> s/C/N/
L661[15:14:03] <Kibibyte> <gamax92>
FUNK
L662[15:15:37] <scj643> Got plotme working
I think
L663[15:16:06] <scj643> It's good
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L665[15:18:39] <scj643> Now it's set so
mobs don't spawn in the plotme world
L666[15:18:46] <scj643> Anyone want to
join
L668[15:19:58] <scj643> Server is
scj.theender.net
L669[15:21:25] <Antheus> um
L670[15:21:51] <Antheus> um
L671[15:21:53] <scj643> Just need to setup
some more things
L672[15:22:01] <Antheus> i forgot how to
use plan9k
L673[15:27:08] <scj643> I also got a
mumble server at scj643.softether,net
L674[15:27:45] <Antheus> also
L675[15:27:52] <Antheus> what's the
default login for SecureOS
L676[15:27:55] *
Antheus jabs Shuudoushi
L677[15:28:56] <vifino> woot
L678[15:28:59] <Antheus> nvm
L679[15:29:01] <Antheus> found it
L680[15:29:12] <vifino> i patched
openresty to use git/hg nginx!
L681[15:29:14] <vifino> weee
L683[15:29:38] <vifino> I need them
bleedingedgeiness if you know what i mean ( Ķ”Ā° ĶŹ Ķ”Ā°)
L684[15:29:41] <vifino> :3
L685[15:30:52] *
vifino yawns
L686[15:30:56] *
vifino flops on Lizzy
L687[15:31:03] <scj643> I need to figure
out if MySQL is worth it for mc Lizzy
L688[15:31:07] *
Lizzy needs to have a shower
L689[15:31:41] <Lizzy> k, you can go as
mad as you want in that VM
L690[15:32:03] <scj643> Ok
L691[15:32:26] <scj643> Well could you
help me with setting stuff up.
L692[15:33:08] <Lizzy> when i have the
time, yes. going to have a shower now then need to head to bed
cause i have work tomorrow
L693[15:33:18] <Turtle> is filesystem.open
supposed to return a number?
L694[15:33:19] <scj643> Ok
L695[15:33:37] <scj643> Anyone want to get
on my pack I got a mumble server too
L696[15:33:57] <scj643> I'm using the
latest forge
L697[15:34:07] <gamax92> Turtle: if you're
using the component, yes. api, no
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L699[15:34:40] <Turtle> ah, I am dumb,
using component, how do you use the number?
L700[15:34:53] <gamax92> ~w
component:filesystem
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L703[15:35:20] <gamax92> note read, write,
and close
L704[15:35:27] <Turtle> ... ugh. I was
looking at the api, not the component, was I. drat.
L705[15:35:32] <Turtle> Thanks xD
L706[15:35:37] <gamax92> oh and seek
L707[15:36:08] <gamax92> yeah I think it
defaults to the fs api since nobody generally uses the raw
component methods
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L709[15:38:56] ***
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L710[15:40:16] <Turtle> there we go, got
it to work, I assume you should just repeat reading X bytes until
EOF?
L711[15:41:23] <S3> of course... metal is
the best
L712[15:41:39] <S3> I'm surprised I could
record that clean as it is with this equipment
L714[15:41:55] <S3> ^ metal
L715[15:44:02] <S3> unfortunately most
kids these days can only appreciate crap like hip hop and
rap..
L716[15:45:07] <DeanIsaKitty> S3 true
that. So hard to find metalheads nowadays :P
L717[15:45:29] <Turtle> grr, byte order
marks screwing with my code :P
L718[15:45:37] <S3> I just hooked my
rack's passive output into the line in of my computer and recorded
that
L719[15:45:54] <S3> took me a bit to
adjust for the fact that PC sound cards are not line level.
L720[15:47:24] <scj643> I listen to rock
from 2000s
L721[15:47:29] <scj643> And some
older
L722[15:47:42] <S3> DeanIsaKitty: it might
have to do with the fact that most people visualize metal as
screamo which are completely two seperate things
L723[15:47:42] <scj643> Fun time to setup
bukkit permissions
L724[15:47:51] <S3> I actually do not like
screaming
L725[15:48:30] <S3> however to freak
people out I sometimes introduce them to angela gossow
L727[15:49:35] <ScrewDapples> Is it
possible to disassemble a microcontroller?
L728[15:49:42] <S3> dissassembler?
L729[15:49:50] <ScrewDapples> hum
L730[15:49:52] <ScrewDapples> makes
sense
L731[15:50:28] <vifino> Come ooooon, build
nginx, build.
L732[15:50:48] <vifino> I patched all the
things
L733[15:50:54] <scj643> Anyone want to
help me with setting up bukkit
L735[15:51:16] <MichiBot> S3:
Arch
Enemy - Bury Me an Angel Live in London 2004 (Angela Gossow
Cam) | length
4m 18s | Likes:
71 Dislikes:
3
Views:
8278 | by IntermezzoLiberte
L736[15:51:18] <S3> like WTF lol
L737[15:51:43] <CompanionCube> S3,
fyi
L738[15:51:51] <S3> morning
CompanionCube
L739[15:51:53] <CompanionCube> one does
not simply call any artistic medium crap
L740[15:52:00] <CompanionCube> it's veeery
subjective
L741[15:52:12] <Melvin_Freebush> ur
artistic medium is crap
L742[15:52:15] <S3> rap = crap without the
c
L743[15:52:23] <S3> you can not argue that
:)
L744[15:52:41] <CompanionCube>
...shit
L745[15:52:55] <Melvin_Freebush> i have an
open letter to you
L746[15:52:57] <Melvin_Freebush> c
L747[15:53:03] <Melvin_Freebush> :^)
L748[15:53:10] <scj643> Got to get someone
to help me with making a spawn can't make it myself don't have a
mouse
L749[15:53:55] <S3> There is ONE rap song
I can think off the top of my head which is cool :
L751[15:54:06] <MichiBot> S3:
Donkey
Kong Rap | length
3m 12s | Likes:
10601 Dislikes:
286 Views:
1703047 | by
ChangoDeGuerra
L752[15:54:20] <scj643> Look at fort
minor
L753[15:54:33] <scj643> Most of his rap
isn't bad
L754[15:54:45] <S3> there are some 80s
titles that were pretty neat
L755[15:54:53] <S3> but for the most
part
L756[15:55:01] <S3> all the rap today is
absolute crap
L757[15:55:30] <vifino> no ngx_pagespeed
for me. ._.
L758[15:56:12] ***
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L759[15:56:13] <scj643> SKs modpack
maker
L761[15:59:10] <MichiBot> S3:
Grandmaster Flash The Message HQ | length
6m 5s |
Likes:
82354 Dislikes:
1318 Views:
16916321 | by
chechkmyvids
L762[15:59:22] <S3> back when rap was
kinda cool
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L764[16:01:16] <S3> okay.
L765[16:01:28] <S3> I spent all this time
playing guitar and stuff instead of writing a FAT12 driver for
OC
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L767[16:03:28] <gamax92> S3: what's wrong
with mine :(
L768[16:03:31] <gamax92> besides a lot of
things
L769[16:03:40] <S3> gamax92: you got
one?
L770[16:03:54] <S3> gamax92: well I was
here thinking, I need to get working on OCBSD
L771[16:04:02] <S3> and I wanted to do it
on unmanaged disks
L772[16:04:16] <S3> SOPT sort of works but
I have things to do you know :P
L773[16:04:24] <S3> than manage partition
tables 24/7
L774[16:04:25] <gamax92> the msdos driver
is a fat12/fat16 driver
L776[16:04:40] <S3> on your git?
L777[16:05:06] <gamax92> it's also on
oppm, and Magik6k has used it in plan9k as well
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L780[16:05:34] <S3> would it fit in an
eeprom?
L781[16:06:04] <gamax92> very much
no
L782[16:06:08] <Temia> Gamax, does it have
long filename support patched in?
L784[16:06:14] <gamax92> also no
L785[16:06:19] <S3> Temia: that's
VFAT
L786[16:06:20] <Temia> Eeeeeh D:
L787[16:06:23] <gamax92> as ... ^
L788[16:06:36] <Melvin_Freebush> gaben's
favorite!
L789[16:06:38] <Temia> Well I'll hold
until we have vfat then.
L790[16:06:46] <Temia> Or ext2 or...
L791[16:06:49] <Temia> Anything
really.
L792[16:06:49] <S3> FAT12 should be fine
for floppies
L793[16:07:01] <Inari> NTSF
L794[16:07:10] *
Temia defenestrates Inari
L795[16:07:14] <Melvin_Freebush> dont
mention NTFS
L796[16:07:15] <Inari> lol
L797[16:07:19] <Temia> Eh.
L798[16:07:23] <Melvin_Freebush> piece of
shiteroni
L799[16:07:25] <Melvin_Freebush> fs
L800[16:07:27] <Temia> Case insensitivity
and short filenames hurt.
L801[16:07:43] <S3> not for a damn boot
disk :P
L802[16:07:43] <gamax92> Temia: FAT in
itself is a can of worms, VFAT is another can of words attached by
ducttape
L803[16:07:50] <Izaya> Old Tech File
System
L804[16:08:00] <scj643> Going to be fully
setting up a modpack and launcher
L805[16:08:01] <Temia> Fair enough. Maybe
we should just homebrew our own basic filesystem. '-'
L806[16:08:10] <Melvin_Freebush> or just
implement ext3
L807[16:08:13] <S3> Temia: OCBSD is using
Magik6k's MR. FS
L808[16:08:17] <S3> or will
L809[16:08:18] <Inari> Temia: using
dartmouth basic?
L810[16:08:20] <Temia> Oh, okay.
L811[16:08:27] <Melvin_Freebush> which
isnt very difficult
L812[16:08:27] *
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L814[16:08:28] <Melvin_Freebush> kek
L815[16:08:31] <Inari> hasha
L816[16:08:33] <Inari> *haha
L817[16:08:34] <S3> but by using FAT12
right now I can bootstrap OCBSD from a FAT12 mounted image in
FreeBSD
L818[16:08:41] <S3> the problem I had was
this:
L819[16:08:51] <Inari> i once had a fun
article on why people had dartmouth basic
L820[16:08:54] <Inari> but i cant find it
anymore
L821[16:08:57] <S3> how the heck was I
going to get OCBSD files on it if I didn't want to mess with
filesystem api yet
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L823[16:09:11] <Inari> oh
L825[16:10:06] <S3> it makes me
wonder
L826[16:10:17] <S3> it must have been fun
gamax92 making the first filesystem
L827[16:10:24] <S3> for an os
L828[16:10:38] <gamax92> It was fun having
a variety of not so good quality specification documentations
L829[16:10:39] <scj643> I have like 5
terminals open in Ubuntu
L830[16:10:41] <S3> knowing there were
filesystems before operating systems were really operating
systems
L831[16:10:58] <gamax92> where people over
generalized things based on windows's formatting tool
L833[16:11:25] <gamax92> and then linux,
also making completely valid filesystems, did things slightly
differently and broke everything
L834[16:11:42] <S3> I think what I should
do, is make an OCBSD install disk that is a managed floppy
L835[16:11:49] <Izaya> scj643: only
5?
L836[16:11:57] <S3> and then as soon as
possible make an unmanaged floppy
L837[16:12:19] <S3> technically speaking
gamax92 the OCBSD installer will be a livefloppy
L838[16:12:24] <S3> kind of like
OpenOS
L839[16:12:29] <S3> so it can run on
anything it supports
L840[16:12:38] <S3> long as something is
out there to boot it
L841[16:12:39] <gamax92> openos's
installer is just a disk cloner
L842[16:12:47] <S3> yeah..
L843[16:12:57] <S3> I plan on having
package sets
L844[16:13:05] <vifino> Hey S3, wanna help
me get HHVM running on freebsd? Would appreciate your help in
fixing it's not-freebsd-insess.
L845[16:13:12] <S3> like FreeBSD does, you
have one named base, one for docs, etc
L846[16:13:19] <S3> what is HHVM
L847[16:13:28] <vifino> a php jit
L848[16:13:31] <gamax92> High Headed
Virtual Machine
L850[16:13:38] <vifino> php and hack
jit*
L851[16:13:46] <S3> interesting
L852[16:13:54] <vifino> S3: it's at least
5x as fast as plain php.
L853[16:13:59] <S3> is it in ports?
L854[16:14:06] <S3> yeah I wouldn't
doubt
L855[16:14:16] <scj643> Removing clam av
takes up too much ram
L856[16:14:26] <vifino> What do you think?
I just asked you i you want to help me port it.
L857[16:14:28] <vifino> >_>
L858[16:14:29] <S3> vifino: I use Perl for
my web stuff for multiple reasons, but one of them is the fact that
perl has a caching compiler and that perl is a compiled
language..
L859[16:14:38] <S3> so it runs a LOT
faster
L861[16:15:26] <S3> apparently hhvm is in
/usr/ports/lang/hophop-php
L862[16:15:40] <vifino> wot
L864[16:15:54] <vifino> nope, got
removed
L866[16:16:03] <S3> well im on bsd so
lemme check
L867[16:16:39] <S3> says here in ports
that it was moved not removed
L868[16:16:42] <S3> Reason: Not
staged
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L870[16:22:44] <scj643> Going to put
setting up a launcher on hold for now
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L872[16:24:25] <vifino> S3: In case you
were referring to me after my last message, I haven't got it.
L873[16:25:04] <vifino> Some cuntface
found something abusable in the nick highlighting script of
weechat, which causes it to freeze horribly.
L874[16:25:27] <Lizzy> :/
L875[16:25:47] <scj643> Anyone want to get
on the server and make a spawn
L876[16:26:13] <scj643> I can't since I
don't have a mouse or building expertise
L877[16:26:26] <vifino> freeze = freeze
and break*
L878[16:26:54] <gamax92> if freeze is
freeze and break, then won't that just infinitely loop, never
breaking?
L879[16:27:24] <scj643> Did I mention this
server is geared towards open computer developers that are testing
code
L880[16:27:26] <S3> what is the most
common tarball alternative used in OpenOS?
L881[16:27:35] <S3> also, do we have any
gzip programs
L882[16:28:13] <Temia> I don't think I've
seen any archival methods BESIDES tar.
L883[16:28:29] <Temia> Which is fair --
it's a simple format.
L884[16:28:44] <scj643> Ports pk7zip
L885[16:28:46] <S3> it's not real tar
though right?
L886[16:28:49] <S3> last I checked
L887[16:28:50] <Izaya> tis a good
format
L888[16:29:09] <Temia> It is,
actually
L889[16:29:12] <scj643> Well anyone have
plans on getting on the server I made?
L891[16:29:24] <Temia> Just zeros out most
of the metadata since there is none to get.
L892[16:29:53] <S3> I doubt anyone will
ever have enough RAM in OC to have an initrd for an install floppy
larger than the floppy
L893[16:30:03] <S3> or at least that
contains more than the floppy would uncompressed
L894[16:30:06] <Antheus> Inari, you will
be pleazed to know I named a server after you
L895[16:30:17] <scj643> I made a server
for this IRC
L896[16:30:36] <S3> the floppy gets what
500k of space
L897[16:30:48] <scj643> Dang
L898[16:30:58] <scj643> Oh wait thought
that was m
L900[16:31:36] <S3> trying to figure out
how much ram is each tier
L901[16:32:48] <S3> I could support
network installation
L902[16:32:55] <Inari> Antheus: will i
be?
L903[16:33:07] <Antheus> Yes.
L904[16:33:10] <Antheus> It's
unconditional
L905[16:33:23] <Antheus> s/eaz/eas
L906[16:33:23] <Kibibyte> <Antheus>
Inari, you will be pleased to know I named a server after you
L907[16:34:02] <scj643> Is tps being
around 19 good?
L908[16:34:20] <S3> it's not 20
L909[16:34:37] <scj643> Screw using
plots
L910[16:34:54] <scj643> This is just a
server for people in OC permisions won't be an issue
L911[16:35:28] <Antheus> :P
L912[16:35:45] <Antheus> tell me when you
get it up
L913[16:35:48] <Antheus> scj643, ^
L914[16:36:00] <S3> scj643: I thought
Lizzy was already running it?
L915[16:36:24] <scj643> Lizzy is
hosting
L916[16:37:04] <scj643> Also forge should
be better on the TPS Side
L917[16:41:47] <scj643> Thinking forge
essentials might be my go to mod
L918[16:42:34] <S3> yay for mkdir
L919[16:42:36] <S3> mkdir -pv
{bin,sbin,lib,root,var/{log,run,lib},tmp,etc,boot,sys,mnt,dev,usr/{home,lib,share,src,sbin,bin,include,local/{lib,share,sbin,bin,etc,include}}}
L921[16:45:01] <gamax92> oh boy.
L922[16:45:03] <gamax92> why
L923[16:45:08] <scj643> Dang
L924[16:45:26] <S3> entire filesystem
hierarchy in one command :)
L925[16:45:44] *
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L926[16:47:55] <scj643> Going to be just
using forge essentials
L927[16:48:12] <S3> vifino: you've never
done that before?
L928[16:48:19] <vifino> S3: No.
L930[16:48:24] <vifino> Well, yes.
L931[16:48:49] <Antheus>
sdahgakjsdghaskjdga
L932[16:48:57] *
vifino reboots Antheus
L933[16:48:57] <Antheus> setting up a
samba server is blargh
L934[16:49:07] *
Antheus BSOD's
L935[16:49:14] <vifino> \o/
L936[16:49:20] <vifino> Victory.
L937[16:53:28] <ScrewDapples> Is it
possible to reprogram microcontrollers in-circuit?
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L942[16:58:17] <scj643> The server has mob
spawning disabled
L943[16:58:27] <scj643> Should help
TPS
L944[16:59:19] <scj643> damn multiworld
forge doesn't obey game rules
L945[17:03:02] <scj643> Need to make it so
things don't spawn in my world
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L950[17:12:37] <scj643> Going to just use
the flat world as default and have other worlds as needed
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L953[17:18:26] <scj643> Will anyone play
on this server
L954[17:19:11] <scj643> We need people to
make it worth it
L955[17:20:08] <Mimiru> scj643, my server
died off awhile ago. It's still up, but no one has logged in in
ages
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L957[17:21:59] <scj643> Is it moded?
L958[17:23:01] <Mimiru> Yes
L959[17:23:05] <scj643> Trying to make a
pack that people in the OC community will enjoy and work on
L960[17:25:02] <Izaya> moded like vim?
:3
L962[17:26:03] <scj643> Using latest
forge
L963[17:26:54] <scj643> Anyone going to
get it
L964[17:27:53] <ProbablyKodos> Next
modpack I play will be Galactic Science
L965[17:28:19] <Mimiru> I have little
desire to switch from my server, so I'll be passing.
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L967[17:29:00] <scj643> Can I see
yours
L968[17:29:31] <scj643> Does it have OC
and zettaindustries
L970[17:29:51] <ProbablyKodos> I am
absolutely dreading updating my tech pack
L971[17:29:56] <ProbablyKodos> But there's
new stuff I want to add
L972[17:30:07] <ProbablyKodos> Is EIO 2.3
out of beta yet
L973[17:30:11] <Mimiru> I need to knock a
few mods off of mine
L974[17:30:24] <ProbablyKodos> I intend on
adding the TARDIS Mod
L975[17:31:02] <scj643> Too big for my
taste
L976[17:31:25] <scj643> Need to have my
packs as light as possible
L977[17:31:38] <Mimiru> Theres a few mods
there that I can't remove... as it breaks everything.
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L979[17:32:53] <scj643> Well my pack isn't
on a launcher because some mod makers would kill me if I did
L980[17:32:58] <scj643> Including
optimize
L981[17:33:01] <ProbablyKodos> I'm going
to look into NuclearCraft, but depending on how much I can do with
it with OC, I may go back to BR
L982[17:33:02] <scj643> Optifine
L983[17:33:23] <scj643> My pack is also
geared for creative and not survival
L984[17:33:46] <scj643> For testing out
ideas and having a role play as well
L985[17:33:54] <Mimiru> My server is
primarily creative, with 2 survival worlds
L986[17:34:02] <S3> so OCBSD has a tap
driver
L987[17:34:04] <S3> but no tun
driver
L988[17:34:35] <scj643> Oh nice
L989[17:34:35] <ProbablyKodos> I'll likely
play Creative long enough to test out my updates
L990[17:34:46] <ProbablyKodos> Then I
-may- try to cope with doing survival
L991[17:34:51] <scj643> Mimiru: still to
much fluff for my computer to handle
L992[17:35:18] <scj643> Did you get
permission for optifine Mimiru ?
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L994[17:35:40] <Mimiru> Optifine isn't
still in the pack, I have no idea why it's listed there.
L995[17:35:57] <Mimiru> It wasn't supposed
to be in it in the first place... but I uploaded it to solder
once..
L996[17:35:57] <scj643> Lol
L997[17:36:18] <scj643> Well I would play
it but sadly has to much mods for me
L998[17:36:47] <scj643> Also you said it
wasn't updated recently and my pack is on the latest non dev build
of OC
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L1001[17:40:10] <scj643> Does my pack
sound good thing
L1002[17:40:12] <Mimiru> Like I said,
I've been working, I have a ton of other stuff that takes my
attention, including 2 kids, and a wife... I'm also lead programmer
of an MMO, and I maintain more servers than I care to count.
L1003[17:40:13] <scj643> Though
L1004[17:40:25] <scj643> I
understand
L1005[17:40:28] <Mimiru> So, no, I've not
had time to update a pack, for a server that no one plays on
anymore.
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L1009[17:50:42] <S3> scj643: Yeah I'm
trying to figure out how I will handle the ATM stuff over internet
cards
L1010[17:50:51] <S3> for the level one
stuff
L1011[17:51:25] <S3> and one way was to
have a "tap" interface for the inet interface
L1012[17:51:42] <S3> a small program
would handle authentication
L1013[17:51:58] <S3> then you would route
through the tap
L1014[17:52:39] <scj643> Explain this a
little more to me?
L1015[17:52:50] <S3> ok. so do you know
what a tap is?
L1016[17:52:55] <S3> tap interface*
L1017[17:52:59] <scj643> Tunnel
adapter
L1018[17:53:13] <S3> well, it doesn't
have to be a tunnel
L1019[17:53:26] <S3> but it's basically a
layer 2 virtual interface
L1020[17:53:38] <S3> imagine it like
this
L1021[17:53:51] <S3> you have a program,
and you connect to a tap interface
L1022[17:54:12] <S3> if you route network
messages / packets etc to the tap interface, the program connected
to that tap will receive them
L1023[17:54:31] <S3> from here, that
program can decide to route that over the internet or
whatever
L1024[17:54:40] <S3> in that case forming
a layer 2 tunnel
L1025[17:55:07] <S3> so one of the
problems with our ATM internet setup for connecting to the highest
tier (layer 1)
L1026[17:55:23] <S3> is that because
these are like proxy servers on the real life internet, we need to
lock them down
L1027[17:55:32] <S3> they require
authentication, etc
L1028[17:55:52] <scj643> Ssh?
L1029[17:56:08] <S3> thought of it, but
Magik6k had mentioned a better way
L1030[17:56:42] <S3> by using a tap
interface and a tunneling program, you can include your tap
interfaces as part of your network switch
L1031[17:56:45] <S3> for ATM
L1032[17:56:55] <S3> it will go through
the tunnel to the perl ATM switch
L1033[17:57:13] <CompanionCube> so it's
essentially a VPN service?
L1034[17:57:46] <S3> basically, except
that it's not linking networks
L1035[17:57:49] <S3> it's linking
interfaces
L1036[17:58:19] <scj643> S3 was wondering
where are your servers located?
L1037[17:58:22] *
CompanionCube likes tinc's switch mode
L1038[17:58:32] <S3> the reason we need
to use tap interfaces and tunnel over CompanionCube is because the
internet card is kind of like a layer 3 socket
L1039[17:58:36] <S3> not really an
interface
L1040[17:58:40] <S3> and OCBSD uses it as
an interface
L1041[17:59:11] <S3> by using a tap, it
will make a connection to a server somewhere, and the tap interface
will appear as any normal lan card.
L1042[17:59:12] <CompanionCube> will you
make use of ATM's VPIs / VCIs
L1044[17:59:16] <S3> yes.
L1045[17:59:24] <S3> AAL5, PNNI, VCI,
VPI, etc
L1046[17:59:28] <S3> PNNI is a big
one.
L1047[17:59:57] <S3> I will have a perl
script running an ATM switch on my servers, which will be a layer 1
backbone
L1048[18:00:09] <S3> vifino is also
interested in joining that peer group
L1049[18:00:10] <scj643> Question how can
I check my tps using forge
L1050[18:00:12] *
CompanionCube has a 'development' VM he might try stuffs out
on
L1051[18:00:25] <S3> CompanionCube: this
way, we can make an internet between MC servers :)
L1052[18:00:28] <Mimiru> scj643, /forge
tps
L1053[18:00:28] <CompanionCube> speaking
of which, it needs ubuntu installed
L1054[18:00:31] <S3> using ATM and ISDN
numbers
L1055[18:00:34] <scj643> Thank
L1056[18:00:40] <S3> what do you think of
that
L1057[18:00:49] <CompanionCube>
sweet
L1058[18:01:03] <scj643> Awsome
L1059[18:01:06] <CompanionCube> could
there be non-minecraft services on the thing
L1060[18:01:07] <S3> it would technically
work for single player too, now would it? as long as you had
service with whatever ISP you chose.
L1061[18:01:13] <S3> there can be
L1062[18:01:24] <S3> I will make the perl
script pluggable
L1063[18:01:30] <S3> so that you can map
VCIs to function callbacks
L1064[18:01:39] <S3> and implement
special services
L1065[18:01:51] *
CompanionCube might implement a directory / resolution
service
L1066[18:02:10] <S3> I wanted to do this
CompanionCube so that we could display data on our website about
the network
L1067[18:02:17] <S3> and allow people to
request number blocks :)
L1068[18:02:23] <S3> if you are layer
2
L1069[18:03:04] <S3> this way the ISP
layers can be fairly automatic at the top tier
L1070[18:03:50] <S3> I am the layer 1
(top tier) number operator, and I will be using a prefix of
two
L1071[18:04:29] <S3> so there can be 00 -
99 layer 1 routes
L1072[18:04:46] <S3> think of them as
country codes.
L1073[18:04:51] <S3> most of the routing
will be layer 2
L1074[18:05:04] <S3> which I will be
giving out 3 digit ones but vifino can choose how many he
wants.
L1075[18:05:08] <S3> it's up to the
operator :)
L1076[18:05:13] <scj643> Yep
L1077[18:05:36] <S3> so ill be supporting
up to 1000 layer 2 nodes under me.
L1078[18:06:06] <S3> I have unmetered
bandwidth.. and a LOT.
L1079[18:07:45] <S3> CompanionCube: all I
need is volunteers to run level 1s
L1080[18:07:54] <S3> mine will be in
france.
L1081[18:07:56] <CompanionCube> eh, not
my thing.
L1082[18:08:01] <S3> that's ok
L1083[18:08:11] <S3> if vifino runs his
on a US server thatl be dandy
L1084[18:08:49] <vifino> S3: That
probably won't happen. I have a few france ones. I may also host in
the US, but not primarily.
L1085[18:09:00] <Mimiru> I've got a box
in Canada
L1086[18:09:03] <S3> vifino: ok
L1087[18:09:15] <S3> I had one in the us
but when we moved our server we accidently bought it in
france
L1089[18:09:41] <vifino> S3: The one in
the us is a cheapass one.
L1090[18:09:42] <S3> canada has some nice
bandwidth
L1091[18:09:58] <S3> I doubt our network
will use a lot of bandwidth though
L1092[18:10:01] <S3> I mean it's
minecrafgt
L1093[18:10:06] <S3> most of it will be
small traffic
L1094[18:10:20] <vifino> I have a dedi in
france, a good gbit vps in frankfurt, one in amsterdam
L1095[18:10:22] <scj643> I could run one
on lizzy's server and my u.s. Digital Ocean server
L1096[18:10:25] <S3> and data transfers
will be consistent, easy on the cpu 53 byte packetsa
L1097[18:10:26] <vifino> uuuh, and
probably a few other ones
L1098[18:10:47] <S3> if these are layer
ones, then maybe I should make a website
L1099[18:10:52] <vifino> scj643: I would
not recommend that unless you got permission from her.
L1100[18:10:56] <S3> so that people can
choose the country their server is in
L1101[18:11:02] <S3> so that they get the
best "latency"
L1102[18:11:07] <S3> if that makes
sense
L1103[18:11:21] <S3> because if you run a
minecraft server in the us
L1104[18:11:25] <S3> and you want to be a
layer 2
L1105[18:11:45] <S3> it doesn't make
sense to connect to a server in france if there is one in the US or
canada
L1106[18:11:49] <scj643> Lizzy is letting
me do what I want with the VPS
L1107[18:12:04] <S3> well, definately ask
her before doing something like that
L1108[18:12:10] <scj643> Ok
L1109[18:12:16] <S3> I'm doing my best to
ensure security, I don't think there's anything to worry about
anyways
L1110[18:12:26] <Mimiru> The offer for my
Canada box is open at any rate.
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L1112[18:12:30] <S3> especially since,
who speaks modified ATM protocol?
L1114[18:12:36] <S3> besides OC
L1115[18:12:46] <Mimiru> 8 core/ 12 GB VM
on a 8 core, 64 GB box.
L1116[18:13:05] <Mimiru> Oh sorry, 15
GB
L1117[18:13:06] <S3> haha, I have 32
GB
L1118[18:13:17] <S3> 64 would be
nice
L1119[18:13:19] <scj643> I have 512 MB
ram
L1120[18:13:22] <S3> Mimiru: OVH?
L1121[18:13:25] <Mimiru> OVH.
L1122[18:13:25] <scj643> On my personal
VPS
L1123[18:13:30] <S3> thats where mine
was
L1124[18:13:36] <S3> we moved our server
to soyoustart
L1125[18:13:41] <scj643> Lizzy gave me
4GB
L1126[18:13:42] <S3> and they moved it to
france :(
L1127[18:13:52] <Mimiru> IF I can get a
real job I'll be picking up my own machine
L1128[18:14:01] <S3> scj643: ATM won't
take much RAM at all
L1129[18:14:06] <S3> especially for an OC
network
L1130[18:14:22] <S3> I mean, 53 byte
packets.. every packet is exactly the same size..
L1131[18:14:28] <S3> and they're very
simple
L1132[18:14:35] <S3> the routing is
already calculated with ATM
L1133[18:14:42] <S3> it's not like an
ethernet switch
L1134[18:14:47] <S3> which is calculate
route on arrival
L1135[18:15:07] <S3> ATM is packet
switched circuit switching :)
L1136[18:15:08] <Mimiru> Well, when you
get ready to deploy, let me know.
L1137[18:15:16] <S3> sure. source will be
on github
L1138[18:15:32] <S3> I definately want to
make an OpenOS driver for it
L1139[18:15:36] <scj643> Same also we
should have a testing server (maybe mine) for this
L1140[18:16:20] <scj643> Also we can have
phone lines on mine :D
L1141[18:16:52] *
CompanionCube would likely write a server in a non-Lua
language
L1142[18:17:02] <S3> scj643: numbering
plans are 100% up to you
L1143[18:17:07] <S3> it's like ip
subnets
L1144[18:17:20] <S3> if I am layer 1 and
my address prefix is 01
L1145[18:17:30] <S3> and you want to be
say layer 2
L1146[18:17:38] <S3> say I give you
275
L1147[18:17:45] <S3> there are 16 number
digits totalk
L1148[18:17:59] <S3> that means you give
away number plans that start with 01275
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L1150[18:18:07] <scj643> Think we might
want to make a diagram of this someday
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L1152[18:18:14] <S3> but you have 11
digits to do whatever you want with
L1153[18:18:32] <S3> scj643: well I think
I might make a mojolicious app on my server to draw it using HTML5
GL or something
L1154[18:18:35] <S3> hows that?
L1155[18:18:50] <CompanionCube> S3, or
use something like graphviz
L1156[18:18:55] <S3> ooooooh
L1157[18:18:57] <scj643> A simple Visio
drawing would be nice
L1159[18:19:12] <scj643> Or open source
equivalent
L1160[18:19:16] <S3> that would be really
nice.
L1161[18:19:23] <CompanionCube> scj643,
graphviz is sweet for simple diagrams
L1162[18:19:32] <CompanionCube> (simple
as in visually simple.)
L1163[18:19:38] <S3> on the website
L1165[18:20:14] <S3> I want there to be a
way so that level 2s can request level 1 participants'
numbers
L1166[18:20:16] <CompanionCube> was made
with graphviz
L1167[18:20:35] <S3> so instead of scj643
if he were lavel 2 asking me for a 3 digit numbering set
L1168[18:20:45] <S3> he can just request
one from me
L1169[18:20:52] <S3> and either I can
automate it or
L1170[18:21:08] <S3> or put a button so I
can log in and accept it
L1171[18:21:11] <scj643> If it's me it
would be 643
L1172[18:21:34] *
CompanionCube would just want a few numbers rather than acting as
an ISP.
L1173[18:21:47] <scj643> Yeah
L1174[18:21:51] <S3> in that case
CompanionCube
L1175[18:22:00] <S3> I would recommend
getting your numbers from a layer 2 or layer 3
L1176[18:22:19] <CompanionCube> when they
exist :
L1177[18:22:20] <S3> actually
L1178[18:22:21] <CompanionCube> )
L1180[18:22:54] <S3> either way if we do
this right
L1181[18:22:58] <S3> we can make it
geographical
L1182[18:23:03] <S3> but it doesn't force
you to use a specific ISP
L1184[18:23:08] <S3> unlike living in the
real world
L1185[18:23:34] <CompanionCube> so
essentially it's as if the entire damm world was physically
connected
L1186[18:23:45] <S3> rigght
L1187[18:24:39] <CompanionCube> going
upstairs now, brb.
L1188[18:24:55] <S3> technically speaking
CompanionCube you should go with an ISP that gives you the numbers
you need. early on itl be pretty large scale numbering plans but,
so you don't have to be an ISP if you're layer 2
"technically".. you can just ask me to give you a number
set, and bam, I give you 01234, and you get 11 digits worth of
numbers
L1189[18:25:01] <S3> 10 ^ 11
L1190[18:25:15] <S3> for your end
machines
L1191[18:25:16] <scj643> Dang
L1192[18:25:17] <CompanionCube> like I
said, brb :)
L1193[18:25:47] <S3> scj643: this is why
I reocmmended getting connecting to a tier 3
L1194[18:25:58] <S3> layer 3*
L1195[18:26:09] <S3> recommended
numbering plan is as follows:
L1196[18:26:54] <S3>
AA-BBB-CCC-DDDD
L1197[18:26:58] <S3> where layers are A -
D
L1198[18:27:25] <S3> I recommend laying
it out like this:
L1199[18:27:45] <S3> AA - layer 1
obviously, what country or region your server is in.
L1200[18:28:01] <S3> BBB - what server or
cluster of servers you are in
L1201[18:28:13] <S3> CCC - what city or
collection of towns on your server / map you are in
L1202[18:28:17] <S3> DDDD your end
number
L1203[18:28:29] <S3> but again this is
all up to your ISPs
L1204[18:28:35] <S3> that is how I will
do it for mine.
L1205[18:30:24] <vifino> S3: Maybe a git
based number list?
L1206[18:30:30] <S3> keep in mind that in
an address there is also the UUID of the network card and an 8 bit
number for a sub interface alias. you don't need to mess with
that.. it's equivilent to a MAC address
L1207[18:30:36] <vifino> So you can pull
new changes and stuff.
L1208[18:30:38] <S3> I'm using the
internet card UUID for a MAC
L1209[18:30:50] <S3> vifino: yeah,
possible
L1210[18:30:58] <CompanionCube> S3:
problem: what about servers outside of an MC server?
L1211[18:31:10] <S3> what about it
L1212[18:31:41] <CompanionCube> You'd
need to obtain a valid UUID from somewhere
L1213[18:31:59] <S3> CompanionCube: you
get it right from the internet card component?
L1214[18:32:15] <S3> the uuid is local
scope
L1215[18:32:18] <S3> not global
L1216[18:32:31] <S3> the ISDN compatible
numbers are what really does the routing
L1217[18:32:42] <S3> the UUID is really
for, in your house routing
L1218[18:32:49] <S3> between a local set
of machines
L1219[18:32:59] <vifino> S3: Lets move
the actual routing over asterisk's ;)
L1220[18:33:05] <vifino> So you have
*real* dialup :3
L1221[18:33:07] <S3> wait what
L1222[18:33:14] <S3> I do have an
asterisk server
L1223[18:33:20] <vifino> I have
too.
L1224[18:33:22] <S3> I am in a voice call
right now with my ip phone on my desk
L1225[18:33:32] <S3> I have a polycom
phone :)
L1226[18:33:33] <vifino> I'm not.
L1227[18:33:40] <S3> we also have a SIP
trunk
L1228[18:33:45] <S3> and unlimited phone
lines
L1229[18:33:51] <S3> for like .07 cents a
minute
L1230[18:33:59] <S3> and phone
numbers
L1231[18:34:24] <vifino> S3: Emulate
hayes' compatible modem -> win
L1233[18:34:40] <CompanionCube>
+++ATH0
L1234[18:35:04] <S3> the whole point of
this is to make it lightweight and easy to manage as possible
L1235[18:35:12] <vifino> S3: Hey, It'd be
authistic! :3
L1236[18:35:13] <CompanionCube> ^
L1237[18:35:16] <S3> after doing research
on ATM, I find it easier to work with than ethernet
L1238[18:35:19] <CompanionCube>
...dammit
L1239[18:35:34] <S3> its also easier to
implement
L1240[18:35:44] <S3> and PNNI gives us a
very nice alternative to OSPF
L1241[18:36:03] <S3> it's something lua
can handle
L1242[18:36:20] <S3> the processing
latency should be very small
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L1244[18:37:01] <S3> the one downside is
that last I checked we can't use UDP with the internet card
L1245[18:37:06] <S3> Sandra: can we has
UDP?
L1246[18:37:14] <S3> because we have
AAL5, we don't need TCP
L1247[18:37:36] <CompanionCube> wat
L1248[18:37:49] <gamax92> what's
UDP
L1249[18:37:50] <S3> I meant UDP for the
internet card
L1250[18:37:53] <S3> not udp in
minecraft
L1251[18:37:55] <vifino> S3: Sangar not
Sandra.
L1252[18:37:56] <Sandra> I'm not sangar,
but the answer was no.
L1253[18:37:58] <S3> oh crap
L1254[18:38:06] <S3> san TAB =
sandra
L1255[18:38:08] <Sandra> wehn someone
asked for it.
L1256[18:38:31] <S3> so it looks like we
will have unnecessary overhead for layer 1 communications
L1257[18:38:42] <S3> layer1 <-->
layer1 WILL be UDP.
L1258[18:39:21] <vifino> S3: ...
L1259[18:39:26] <vifino> that's quite
stupid.
L1260[18:39:29] <S3> not at all
L1261[18:39:34] <S3> vifino: we have
reliability
L1262[18:39:35] <S3> AAL5.
L1263[18:39:40] <vifino> bleh.
L1264[18:39:45] <S3> vifino: okay
so.
L1265[18:39:54] <S3> AAL5 is responsible
for reordering packets
L1266[18:39:57] <S3> and stuff like
that
L1267[18:40:04] <S3> UDP already does
checksums
L1268[18:40:12] <S3> AAL5 also ensures
that data is recieved
L1269[18:40:30] <S3> it makes no sense
whatsoever to use TCP for the perl ATM switches
L1270[18:40:39] <S3> except for listening
to Open Computers ATM switches
L1271[18:40:58] <S3> this will increase
our network transfer speed by a good factor, vifino
L1272[18:41:10] <S3> a lot of people do
not realize how much work TCP puts on
L1273[18:41:21] <S3> don't use it if you
don't need to.
L1274[18:42:44] <vifino> meh.
L1275[18:43:22] <S3> I wouldn't worry
about it, because the perl script will do most of the work
L1276[18:43:37] <S3> you just configure
authentication, address and port
L1277[18:43:53] <S3> plus any static ATM
routes you need or whatever..
L1278[18:44:01] <S3> not hard.
L1279[18:44:21] <S3> like I said, I'm
trying to make layer 1 as efficient as possible
L1280[18:44:40] <S3> I do a LOT of
network programming
L1281[18:44:44] <vifino> I'll probably
implement my own server software so it's more performant than your
perl version.
L1282[18:44:53] <Inari> reminds me
L1283[18:44:59] <S3> vifino: could
be
L1284[18:44:59] <Inari> i still someday
want to code a MC server with OC
L1285[18:45:02] <vifino> Inari: no, no it
does not.
L1286[18:45:16] <S3> but just remember
that Perl is extremely fast, and in many cases comparable to C
after it has compiled and built cache :)P
L1287[18:45:23] <CompanionCube> I'd
perhaps do it in a language more readable than perl
L1288[18:45:33] <S3> CompanionCube: my
Perl is very readable.
L1289[18:45:45] <S3> plus Perl is a
standard on linux boxes.
L1290[18:45:48] <CompanionCube>
Sauce?
L1292[18:48:23] <CompanionCube> meh
L1294[18:49:55] <S3> I put a lot of work
in making sure my code is clean
L1295[18:50:17] <CompanionCube> It's
nice.
L1296[18:50:35] <S3> You don't see a lot
of Perl programmers like that :P
L1297[18:52:51] <scj643> Lol
L1298[18:53:57] <S3> a lot of that stuff
is api sugar magic
L1299[18:54:07] <S3> for my game
engine
L1301[18:54:36] <S3> my $entity =
$channel->entity_by_uuid($uuid);
L1302[18:54:37] <scj643> There is one
issue with an OC modpack that is latency
L1304[18:55:48] <scj643> Latency between
input and response
L1306[18:55:55] <S3> that's bad
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some
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L1312[19:15:43] <scj643> We can have
items sent through the same lines as OC with ME systems
L1313[19:30:09] <Antheus> scj643, what is
this sever you speak of
L1314[19:30:33] <scj643>
scj.theender.net
L1316[19:32:36] <scj643> Using the latest
forge
L1317[19:35:16] <Antheus> Are the configs
the default?
L1318[19:35:19] <Antheus> scj643, ^
L1319[19:38:45] <scj643> The configs are
in the mods.7z
L1320[19:39:00] <scj643> Also we have a
mumble at scj643.softether.net
L1322[19:40:39] <Antheus> no
configs
L1323[19:40:52] <scj643> Oh ok then it is
the defaults
L1324[19:42:59] <scj643> What
happened
L1325[19:43:10] <Antheus> It's hanging at
the logging in scrfeen
L1327[19:43:34] <scj643> Disconnect
L1328[19:43:46] <scj643> Did you use the
latest forge
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L1330[19:45:05] <scj643> Antheus: try
using multi mc
L1331[19:45:10] <Antheus> I am
L1332[19:45:16] <Antheus> may have
forgotten to instal forge
L1333[19:45:35] <Antheus> 1448 or
1492
L1334[19:45:37] <scj643> Sounds like it
on my end
L1335[19:45:42] <scj643> 1492
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L1340[20:12:25] <S3> OCBSD has only 6
functions
L1341[20:12:34] <S3> so far
L1342[20:14:18] <Izaya> 1. os()
L1343[20:14:23] <scj643> we got a server
up and working on phone lines
L1345[20:15:40] <S3> open() close()
read() write() fork() and exec()
L1346[20:15:48] <S3> those are all the
ones you need for a base UNIX os.
L1347[20:15:53] <S3> or unix clone
L1348[20:16:14] <S3> they aren't done
though
L1349[20:16:31] <S3> scj643: oh?
L1350[20:16:36] <S3> scj643: how can I
get on?
L1351[20:17:28] <scj643>
scj643.softether.net/mc/mods.7z
L1352[20:17:36] <scj643>
scj.theender.net
L1353[20:17:44] <S3> welp
L1354[20:17:47] <S3> gotta compile
7zip
L1355[20:18:06] <scj643> Shouldn't be
that hard I hope
L1356[20:18:12] <S3> nope already
started
L1357[20:18:16] <scj643> Lol
L1358[20:18:28] <S3> sudo portmaster
archivers/p7zip
L1359[20:18:36] <S3> and bam startrs
downloading and compiling from source
L1360[20:18:40] <scj643> Lol
L1361[20:18:43] <S3> FreeBSD is
great
L1362[20:19:10] <scj643> I use Debian but
compiling something big on a dual core 2.2 ghz pentium doesn't
sound fun
L1363[20:19:39] <S3> I have a 3.5 Ghz i7
4770K
L1364[20:19:46] <S3> 8 threads
L1365[20:19:57] <S3> 7zip has been
compiled for a while now :)
L1367[20:20:25] <scj643> Lol also we have
a mumble server
L1368[20:20:31] <S3> oh its http
L1369[20:20:38] <scj643> Yeah forgot to
put that
L1370[20:20:39] <S3> I was wondering why
fetch wasn'tgetting it
L1371[20:20:44] <S3> it was trying
ftp
L1372[20:20:54] <S3> or something..
L1374[20:21:11] <S3> 50 MB huh
L1375[20:21:15] <scj643> The mumble
server is scj643.softether.net
L1376[20:21:25] <scj643> 50mb with the
mods and conf
L1377[20:21:30] <S3> what version of
forge do I need
L1378[20:21:37] <scj643> Latest
1.7.10
L1380[20:21:47] <S3> I can just clone my
profile then
L1381[20:23:30] <S3> GOODF
L1382[20:23:33] <S3> I am glad I did
that
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L1384[20:23:51] <S3> if I hadnt of made a
subdirectory and extracted that 7zip file I would have been very
mad
L1385[20:24:04] <S3> as it would have
made a mess lol
L1386[20:24:08] <S3> but not that
much
L1387[20:24:14] <TYKUHN2> Question: If I
edit a file, and text I know is there isn't there, and I know it is
the right file, wtf is happening? :)
L1388[20:24:37] <S3> scj643: okay pulling
up the pack
L1389[20:24:47] <TYKUHN2> Using both IO
library and edit program.
L1390[20:24:52] <S3> let's see if it
works on FreeBSD
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L1394[20:28:08] <Izaya> TYKUHN2: Buffered
file system
L1395[20:28:23] <Izaya> turn it off in
the config
L1396[20:30:05] <TYKUHN2> Honestly being
someone who needs to rapidly edit programs I find that setting
stupid. Thanks
L1397[20:30:47] <Izaya> It's so if you
like
L1398[20:31:00] <Izaya> write heaps to
the disk
L1399[20:31:24] <Izaya> it doesn't murder
the real one
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L1404[20:40:23] <Antheus> scj643, new
configs?
L1405[20:40:26] <scj643> Yep
L1406[20:40:39] <scj643> Let's see if it
works without a client change
L1407[20:41:03] <scj643> Loaded
L1408[20:41:42] <scj643> It's back
up
L1409[20:43:33] <Izaya> I should get my
survival server back up
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L1414[21:00:19] <xPucTu4> i am creating a
component that needs to draw power from the computer network
L1415[21:00:35] <xPucTu4> can someone
tell me what api should i look for?
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L1417[21:02:13] <Mimiru> xPucTu4, you'll
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L1419[21:02:33] <xPucTu4> thanks
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L1429[22:12:34] <S3> hmmmmmmmm
L1430[22:13:01] <S3> what happens if I
have a network like this:
L1431[22:13:25] <S3> A & B -------
RELAY ---- C ------ RELAY ----- D & E
L1432[22:13:29] <S3> where all leters are
computers
L1433[22:13:36] <S3> and E sends a
broadcast() message
L1434[22:13:38] <S3> who gets it?
L1435[22:16:07] <S3> the cables between C
are on seperate sides of the computer
L1436[22:16:22] <S3> around*
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L1438[22:22:40] <EliteAnax17>
OpenComputers always gives "error while installing files for
package _____"
L1439[22:22:54] <EliteAnax17> when oppm
install (-f can be used, doesnt make a difference) package
L1440[22:23:03] <EliteAnax17> yes, I am
in a writiable partition
L1441[22:23:17] <EliteAnax17> /mnt/2e9/ ,
where 2e9 is the ID of the HDD
L1442[22:23:23] <EliteAnax17>
"rw", so writable
L1443[22:26:15] <S3> lol openos keeps
freezing
L1444[22:27:43] <gamax92> wow ...
L1445[22:27:52] <gamax92> I ... my head
...
L1447[22:28:26] <S3> WTF openos
L1448[22:28:33] <S3> no sorry
L1449[22:28:34] <S3> wtf OC
L1450[22:28:43] <gamax92> S3: look at
that script
L1451[22:29:22] <S3> we may havbe a
problem
L1452[22:29:44] <S3> if I have two
computers with network cards seperated by a relay..
L1453[22:30:19] <S3> does that other
computer or whatever reduce the ammount of total components I can
have because it has a network card reachable by address?
L1454[22:30:55] <S3> gamax92: also wtf is
going on there
L1455[22:31:52] <S3> either way I just
hooked up a bunch of computers seperated by relays which are
seperated by more computers seperated by relays, etc
L1456[22:32:07] <S3> one machine sends a
broadcast, all other machines in the entire hierarchy gets it
L1457[22:32:12] <S3> ...........
L1458[22:32:35] <S3> I absolutely have to
find a way to block that
L1459[22:32:38] <gamax92> S3: I have no
idea
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L1461[22:32:44] <S3> because that's
dangerous as shit
L1462[22:33:03] <S3> talk about easy in
MC DoS
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L1464[22:34:27] <gamax92> I don't exactly
know how that's valid lua but that apparently loads in gmod
L1466[22:36:19] <S3> looks like you can
use internal mode on server racks for this
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L1468[22:37:13] <S3> thats really shitty
thoughh
L1469[22:37:50] <S3> I should be able to
filter and forward messages between networks with the SAME
SERVER
L1470[22:37:53] <S3> damn it
L1471[22:37:58] <S3> I shouldn't have to
talk between em
L1472[22:38:11] <S3> that's just
retard
L1473[22:43:27] <S3> I have a plan
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