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L9[00:30:55] <Izaya> #p
L10[00:30:59] <Izaya> .p
L11[00:31:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Timeout.
L12[00:31:10] <Izaya> %p
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L30[03:38:25] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/ULXWXsV.gifv still way too cute
L31[03:38:46] <Temia> Hee
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L34[03:42:33] <Inari> Research has shown that when insects are electrocuted bug zappers can spread a mist containing insect parts up to about 7 feet (2.1 m) from the device.
L35[04:01:15] <Temia> zort
L36[04:01:45] <Temia> Fun fact: wasps are tenacious little fuckers that they will still keep struggling even after getting hit with a bug zapper.
L37[04:04:11] <Inari> fun fact: i once hit a wasp with a fly swatter
L38[04:04:14] <Inari> it split into half as i did
L39[04:11:06] <Temia> Did both halves then stab at you from hell's heart?
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L43[04:46:50] <Lizzy> :<
L44[04:46:55] <Temia> You killed him
L45[04:46:57] <Temia> D:
L46[04:47:29] * Temia curls up in Lizzy's wings. sleepymoomoo
L47[04:47:49] * Lizzy pets Temia softly
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L51[05:16:34] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unqy57rApyo this is so good <3
L52[05:16:35] <MichiBot> Inari: LNA-6B (Cytokine remix) | length 2m 46s | Likes: 10 Dislikes: 0 Views: 692 | by ShyneApEris
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L58[06:26:04] <S3> Well it looks like I'm being dragged into a new project
L59[06:26:37] <S3> Friends of mine just forked FTBLauncher so we can add FreeBSD support
L60[06:26:49] <S3> Vifino^
L61[06:27:34] <vifino> ... I just returned about a minute ago.
L62[06:27:40] <vifino> I call hax.
L63[06:27:49] <S3> Lol
L64[06:28:45] <S3> Well we have had to copy the modpack into the default launcher
L65[06:28:45] <S3> Which is easy but annoying
L66[06:29:14] <vifino> S3: You never messed with jails?
L67[06:29:17] <vifino> wtf.
L68[06:30:24] <vifino> And I thought I was the noob here. :3
L69[06:30:49] <S3> No
L70[06:30:56] <S3> I never had the time
L71[06:31:05] <vifino> S3: You 100% should.
L72[06:31:10] <S3> I've read about then in the handbook..
L73[06:31:36] <S3> Why's that
L74[06:31:58] <vifino> They are awesome.
L75[06:31:59] <S3> I mean it's basically chroot virtualization right?
L76[06:32:28] <vifino> Yeah.
L77[06:32:31] <vifino> Pretty much.
L78[06:32:43] <vifino> ezjail is a very nice frontent to jails, btw.
L79[06:32:49] <vifino> Helps you loads.
L80[06:33:31] <RaptorJeebus> Rip even after all this time i still couldn't get the youtube query to work
L81[06:34:01] <vifino> I wonder what the hell is making up the 4gb ram usage.
L82[06:34:14] <vifino> Thinking about it, probably zfs cache.
L83[06:36:18] <S3> so my phone autocorrect me and made me say gay ftb launcher instead of yay ftb launcher, in their irc channel
L84[06:36:34] <Izaya> autocorrect: not even once
L85[06:36:35] <vifino> 10/10
L86[06:36:40] <vifino> Hey Izaya.
L87[06:36:46] <Izaya> evening
L88[06:37:03] <vifino> Gah, one day I'll get it right.
L89[06:47:18] <vifino> S3: zfs will eat all them detodated wamms, right?
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L91[06:48:19] <Izaya> zfs sounds cool
L92[06:48:37] <Izaya> but is it as cool as btrfs (or at least, as cool as btrfs will be when it's released)
L93[06:48:48] <vifino> Nah, I like btrfs more.
L94[06:49:02] <vifino> zfs is nice, but eeeh.
L95[06:49:35] <vifino> At least it's well implemented.
L96[06:49:38] <vifino> ... I hope.
L97[06:50:07] <Izaya> It seems more stable than btrfs :P
L98[06:50:26] <vifino> Doesn't mean btrfs is unstable :P
L99[06:50:46] <vifino> I really wish freebsd had btrfs.
L100[06:51:15] <Izaya> btrfs isn't quite enterprise-ready yet
L101[06:51:30] <Izaya> RAID levels >1 are unstable at the moment
L102[06:51:36] <Izaya> we have fsck.btrfs now I think though
L103[06:52:03] <vifino> Izaya: oracle uses btrfs.
L104[06:52:23] <Izaya> really?
L105[06:52:57] <vifino> Yeah, oracle or $bigcompany. Saw a talk from a big company about btrfs.
L106[06:53:24] <vifino> Yeah, it was oracle, afaik.
L107[06:53:47] <vifino> Oracle Linux uses btrfs.
L108[06:53:58] <vifino> Or something like that. I dunno.
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L112[07:49:53] <RaptorJeebus> IT WORKS http://i.imgur.com/UbYd49x.png
L113[07:52:35] <vifino> Lies.
L114[07:55:49] <XDjackieXD> RaptorJeebus now you need a online tool to convert it to a dfpwm, dowload it to the pc and play it using a tape drive ^^
L115[07:56:06] <RaptorJeebus> ahahaha, i'm using sk89q's playblock
L116[07:56:25] <RaptorJeebus> http://i.imgur.com/6V59RR2.jpg
L117[07:56:30] <RaptorJeebus> basemate chose the song don't judge
L118[07:57:23] <XDjackieXD> dat image resolution is too high for mc ^^
L119[07:58:16] <RaptorJeebus> aha, technically it's playing using VLC
L120[07:58:19] <RaptorJeebus> just in mc XD
L121[07:59:11] <XDjackieXD> yes but it is too high. it doesn't fit mc :P playing it using oc screens and dfpwm would be waaaay cooler XD (and waaaaay more complicated ^^)
L122[07:59:52] <RaptorJeebus> ahahaha, exactly, but technically o-able
L123[07:59:55] <RaptorJeebus> do*
L124[08:00:17] <XDjackieXD> not with 30fps ^^
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L126[08:06:43] <vifino> Meanwhile: freebsdians tell me to automate the stuff I do in my job.
L127[08:06:56] <XDjackieXD> o.O
L128[08:20:17] <RaptorJeebus> definitely not with 30FPS aha
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L157[11:10:04] <scj643> Any way to make it so that oc do a custom header and file type for an http post request
L158[11:11:00] <Vexatos> use internet.open
L159[11:11:52] * vifino opens the internet
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L162[11:16:36] <ProbablyKodos> o/
L163[11:22:41] <Starhero-MC> S3, hey my bouncer PC is borked, hence my not being on the other channel, just wanted to FYI ya
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L170[12:37:35] <Sangar> o/
L171[12:38:27] <ProbablyKodos> ohai
L172[12:38:33] <ProbablyKodos> Anything new with the thing
L173[12:39:09] <dangranos> fuck, i need a better computer
L174[12:39:20] * dangranos just saw xcom2 and fallout4 videos
L175[12:39:31] * dangranos is amazed that most of it is DYNAMIC
L176[12:39:33] <ProbablyKodos> lol
L177[12:39:42] <ProbablyKodos> afk some more
L178[12:39:44] <Sangar> i just got home :P so no :X
L179[12:43:50] <sugoi> Sangar: was explaining oc to a friend, contrasting with the other mod which he knows. pointing out that components have craft cost and such. he had a brilliant idea for the mod. another case type with its own incompatible component types, more costly to craft - make sure it has an incompatible OpenOs engine as well
L180[12:44:11] <sugoi> but make the case pretty. a (hint) the case is crafted with an apple
L181[12:45:29] <Vexatos> >_>
L182[12:45:31] <Vexatos> Well
L183[12:45:32] <Vexatos> uhm
L184[12:45:42] <Vexatos> ComputerCraft pocket computers are crafted using (golden) apples
L185[12:45:48] <Vexatos> sooo
L186[12:45:51] <sugoi> haha
L187[12:45:55] <Vexatos> plus dan200 is a Mac user
L188[12:46:01] <Vexatos> sooo
L189[12:46:04] <Vexatos> case closed?
L190[12:46:19] <Sangar> sugoi, while a fun ... reference, way too much effort for too little gain :P
L191[12:46:22] <sugoi> except his craft costs are dirt cheap
L192[12:46:23] <Sangar> also that
L193[12:46:27] <Sangar> minetwerker!
L194[12:46:58] <sugoi> Sangar: oh indeed, it was said with tongue in cheek
L195[12:47:30] <Mimiru> Wisdom Teeth suck.
L196[12:47:35] <Sangar> i'd hoped so, but there've been enough suggestions way more... silly, so i'm like making sure :P
L197[12:47:55] <Sangar> Mimiru, yes, they do. having pulled all four at once, too.
L198[12:48:06] <Sangar> -'m
L199[12:48:08] <Vexatos> What? MORE silly? Where
L200[12:48:10] <Mimiru> They're doing them one at a time
L201[12:48:20] <Vexatos> Who would ever do things more silly than that ;_;
L202[12:48:21] <Mimiru> I go back in 2 weeks for the next
L203[12:48:28] <Sangar> the big serious-business issue? ;)
L204[12:48:33] <Vexatos> Nonono
L205[12:48:46] <Sangar> yay
L206[12:48:49] <Vexatos> Those are totally serious
L207[12:48:59] <Sangar> doesn't make them less silly :P
L208[12:49:00] <Vexatos> I am talking about legitemately silly stuff
L209[12:49:14] <Sangar> ore processing, then? >_>
L210[12:49:20] <Vexatos> I was about to say
L211[12:49:34] <Vexatos> The only thing I could think of more silly than that would be something like ore processing in OC
L212[12:49:38] <Vexatos> but who'd ever do such a thing?
L213[12:51:42] <cloakable> Could you hypothetically make a robot use the Immersive Engineering hammer to ore double then drop the dusts into a furnace? :D
L214[12:51:53] <Vexatos> cloakable, that's not how it works
L215[12:51:56] <Vexatos> you clearly don't get it
L216[12:52:00] <cloakable> :P
L217[12:52:06] <Vexatos> for reference, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1037
L218[12:52:23] <Magik6k> hmm
L219[12:52:25] <Magik6k> actually
L220[12:52:37] <Magik6k> Does fortune work for robots
L221[12:52:38] <Magik6k> ?
L222[12:52:41] <Vexatos> of course
L223[12:52:50] <Vexatos> I made a program for a robot
L224[12:52:56] <Vexatos> you place a chest on top, one on the bottom
L225[12:52:59] <Vexatos> put ores into the top
L226[12:53:11] <Magik6k> Lemme expand ore processing docs ;p
L227[12:53:15] <Vexatos> it will place all the ores and break them with its pickaxe, exporting the results to the bottom :P
L228[12:53:16] <cloakable> Vexatos: hahahahahahaha :D
L229[12:53:17] <Vexatos> Magik6k, no
L230[12:53:23] <Magik6k> wai
L231[12:53:24] <Vexatos> You mustn't
L232[12:53:32] <Vexatos> because then it's not serious anymore
L233[12:53:35] <Vexatos> you are getting silly
L234[12:54:43] <Magik6k> maybe
L235[12:55:19] <Vexatos> speaking of silly, my autobreak program even changes colour depending on what it's currently doing :D
L236[12:55:34] <Vexatos> And it notifies you when the pickaxe it uses is about to break so you can replace it
L237[12:55:41] <Vexatos> (it will stop working if the durability is low)
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L239[13:17:28] <ProbablyKodos> Only four wisdom teeth pulled at once? Try having 31 teeth pulled at once, local anesthesia only
L240[13:18:29] <Vexatos> what did you do to your teeth
L241[13:19:08] <ProbablyKodos> Long story
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L243[13:19:19] <T1nch0> hi
L244[13:19:22] <ProbablyKodos> But basically I had an absessed tooth get infected which went systemic and almost killed me
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L246[13:19:52] <ProbablyKodos> #noragrets
L247[13:20:38] <Lizzy> Vexatos, can we get 'range extenders' for the computronics loco relay? or perhaps a relay-esk block that can be linked similar to RC's own signal boxes?
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L249[13:20:39] <sugoi> ProbablyKodos: so..you're saying you survived...by the skin of your teeth?
L250[13:21:12] <ProbablyKodos> sugoi: something like that
L251[13:21:13] <Vexatos> Lizzy, it Digital Signal Receiver box?
L252[13:21:21] <ProbablyKodos> Too hangry to come up with something wittier, so sure
L253[13:21:23] <Vexatos> why not use that
L254[13:22:06] <Lizzy> Vexatos, i meant for the electric locomotive relay block
L255[13:22:25] <Lizzy> i was just using the signal boxes as an example of how things could be linked
L256[13:23:45] <Vexatos> why would you need a longer range?
L257[13:23:55] <Vexatos> also, can't you set it in the configs?
L258[13:24:27] <Lizzy> i know i can set it in the configs but it would be nice to have an extender ingame, also for long distance lines it'd be nice to have
L259[13:24:56] <Vexatos> Well, what exactly do you use them for
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L261[13:25:36] <Lizzy> going around the local area and also going off to a remote area
L262[13:25:54] <Vexatos> I mean, which information are you gathering from it
L263[13:26:04] <Lizzy> call me old fashioned but i like trains for cross-world transport
L264[13:26:38] <Lizzy> not really gathering but setting, say it gets to it's final destination, it should then have a new destination to park up or something
L265[13:26:50] <Vexatos> well
L266[13:27:00] <Vexatos> digital detector + routing track&Adapter block
L267[13:27:13] <Vexatos> some wireless network magicery
L268[13:27:15] <Lizzy> hmm
L269[13:27:18] <Vexatos> I won't make RC too easy for you :3
L270[13:27:20] <Lizzy> will look into that
L271[13:27:32] <Vexatos> Most of the RC blocks that do something are Adapter-able
L272[13:27:36] <Vexatos> especially the tracks
L273[13:27:43] <Vexatos> and anything related to routing
L274[13:27:43] <Lizzy> good to know
L275[13:28:07] <Vexatos> You can even set and get the contents of routing tables inside routing switch motors and routing detectors
L276[13:28:30] <Lizzy> in other news i created a semi-redundant power supply system for a pair (or potentially more) of raspberry pis
L277[13:29:04] <Skye|Sad> Lizzy, connect the power pins on the GPIO?
L278[13:29:06] <Lizzy> i know about the routing table stuff, won't get into that until i devise a way to add in dynamic addition of routes
L279[13:29:52] <Lizzy> Skye|Sad, 1) why you sad? :( 2) yeah, pins 2-2,4-4 (5v) and 6-6,9-9 (ground)
L280[13:30:05] <cloakable> At some point I need to see what the Adaptor can do with Railcraft >.>
L281[13:30:20] <Lizzy> earlier i only connected one of the 5v lines and it grounded itself through the hdmi port
L282[13:30:53] <Skye|Sad> Lizzy, I'm sad for many reasons, including how terrible the world is
L283[13:31:10] <Temia> I've got my taustick's Pi powered through its breakout board via the external USB connector
L284[13:31:12] <Lizzy> Vexatos, remember my computerised railroad?
L285[13:31:15] <Vexatos> cloakable, with RC? Nothing. With RC and Computronics? Everything(tm) and more
L286[13:31:19] <Vexatos> Lizzy, I surely do
L287[13:31:25] <ProbablyKodos> I'm sad because Pacific Rim 2 was cancelled =(
L288[13:31:39] <cloakable> Vexatos: Is this documented anywhere? :D
L289[13:31:47] <Vexatos> wasn't Pacific Rim this weird trash film?
L290[13:31:51] <Vexatos> cloakable, it is :D
L291[13:32:06] <cloakable> Vexatos: Liiiiiiiiiiink please :D
L292[13:32:07] <Vexatos> just type in "component.<name>" in your favourite Lua interpreter
L293[13:32:09] <Vexatos> :3
L294[13:32:16] <Lizzy> I'm going to be re-visiting it as soon as i get my server back up (which is in the works) and it'll be bigger and better than before. I've now mastered the art of signal zones and making sure trains don't ram each other in the bum
L295[13:32:17] <Vexatos> =component.<name> actually
L296[13:32:18] <Temia> I could just as easily use the micro-USB directly but I wanted to open up the possibility of sticking a PS360 or maybe Teensy-based joystick board in.
L297[13:32:21] <ProbablyKodos> Pacific Rim was the Jaeger/kaiju movie
L298[13:32:55] <Vexatos> Lizzy, digital signal receiver boxes are awesome for visualizing your network
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L300[13:33:30] <Vexatos> if you pair one to each signal block, you can know exactly where there's currently a train
L301[13:33:35] <cloakable> Vexatos: Lua 5.1.5 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 Lua.org, PUC-Rio
L302[13:33:47] <cloakable> :P
L303[13:33:49] <Vexatos> cloakable, please
L304[13:33:52] <Vexatos> no
L305[13:33:53] <Vexatos> stop
L306[13:34:00] <Lizzy> Vexatos, for the long stretches i'm probably going to do some stuff with redstone and microcontrollers, for the short ones i'll do the digital boxes
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L308[13:34:23] <cloakable> I'm not in minecraft, this is the lua interpreter I have available :D
L309[13:34:29] <Vexatos> Lizzy, I designed my blocks and drivers so that RC boxes will never get fully useless
L310[13:34:29] <Lizzy> thinking of creating a hologram and have it mapped out on there and each segment change colour depending on where it's going
L311[13:34:50] <Vexatos> I design all my drivers so that the mod I am interfacing doesn't lose a huge part of itself
L312[13:35:07] <Lizzy> hmm
L313[13:35:12] <Vexatos> so RC signal boxes are still very much useful, hence I am glad you want to do a "redstone" attempt
L314[13:35:32] <Vexatos> That's EXACTLY what I wanted to achieve :D
L315[13:35:45] <Vexatos> cloakable, well
L316[13:35:50] <Vexatos> the Java classes have it documented too
L317[13:36:02] <Lizzy> i think the redstone would be easier cause then i only need to listen for a message via wireless saying "train entered block a west/train left block a west" or something
L318[13:36:38] <Vexatos> cloakable, https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/tree/master/src/main/java/pl/asie/computronics/integration/railcraft/driver and https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/tree/master/src/main/java/pl/asie/computronics/integration/railcraft/tile
L319[13:36:44] <Lizzy> dat url
L320[13:36:45] <Vexatos> just search for "@Callable" in those files
L321[13:36:47] <Lizzy> on wait
L322[13:36:52] <Lizzy> nvm it's 2 urls
L323[13:36:53] <cloakable> lol
L324[13:36:55] <Vexatos> and the "doc=" in that is the documentation
L325[13:37:13] <Lizzy> also both of these Pis have their normal power adapters connected, for Pegasus (2B+) thats it's 2.4A charger, for Darcath (1B) it's a 700mA Samsung phone charger
L326[13:37:26] <Lizzy> i havent tested the redundant system under load yet
L327[13:38:08] <Temia> I haven't been able to find a wart that maintains 5V under load.
L328[13:38:23] <Temia> So I've been powering my Taustick off my computer during testing.
L329[13:38:28] <Lizzy> I had to put pegasus back to 700mhz clock because the 1GHz option even struggled with the power supply i have it on
L330[13:38:53] <Vexatos> Lizzy, sudo ln -s / /dev/extremely/long/name/for/weird/symlinks/and/extremely/long/paths/root
L331[13:40:04] <Lizzy> Pegasus actually has a "PowerBar" thing in between it and the charger to provide a battery backup of sorts and also cleans the energy going to it
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L333[13:41:11] <Lizzy> right, now to disable the ttys on both pi's serial pins then create a null modem link between them
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L337[13:50:36] <ProbablyKodos> lol
L338[13:50:45] <ProbablyKodos> Debating on a nap
L339[13:51:22] <Lizzy> having a hard time Sye?
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L342[13:52:11] <Skye> Lizzy, did you change my nick?
L343[13:52:13] <Skye> haha
L344[13:52:15] <Skye> thanks
L345[13:52:20] <Temia> Hmm.
L346[13:52:31] <Lizzy> yeah, took me a bit to do it because znc was being fubar
L347[13:52:37] <Temia> I only have one backup battery handy, but let's see...
L348[13:52:48] <Temia> Alternatively I could probably scrounge and wire in a voltage regulator circuit
L349[13:53:27] <Temia> The latter might be the simplest option, seeing as how I still have half a perfboard, and moreover am planning on building a third prototype anyway.
L350[13:56:41] <Lizzy> er whoops
L351[13:56:51] <Lizzy> might help if my pi had it's sd card in it for me to boot it up
L352[14:02:44] <CompanionCube> anyone here use AVG on Windows?
L353[14:03:42] <Mimiru> not in years
L354[14:03:55] <mrammy> what is a "Windows"
L355[14:03:56] <mrammy> Kappa
L356[14:04:05] <CompanionCube> good because they're spying on your ass
L357[14:04:07] <Vexatos> I know what windows are
L358[14:04:15] <Lizzy> fuck you internet
L359[14:04:17] <Vexatos> but no idea why you'd want to put anything onto them
L360[14:04:28] <CompanionCube> https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/3l4apg/avg_anti_virus_just_updated_there_privacy_policy/
L361[14:05:08] <Lizzy> derp
L362[14:05:35] <Lizzy> just realised i didn't swap the Tx&Rx pins when connecting my pi's together
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L364[14:10:14] <Vexatos> Tx&Rx? Rather T&Rex
L365[14:10:42] <Lizzy> .-.
L366[14:11:03] <Lizzy> right, i can send basic text through serial, now to start up null modems
L367[14:11:47] <scj643> Oh yeah anyone have a clue how I would use custom headers in opencomputers internet API
L368[14:17:39] <gamax92> scj643: Well, you can use the sockets and do a manual HTTP GET
L369[14:21:00] <sugoi> scj643: socket=internet.open(url)
L370[14:21:09] <sugoi> socket:write(custom_packet)
L371[14:21:11] <sugoi> socket:read()
L372[14:21:45] <sugoi> scj643: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:internet
L373[14:22:09] <sugoi> quote, "The stream can be read from and written from, using s:read and s:write - in general it can be treated much like files opened using io.open"
L374[14:22:43] <scj643> How would I get about setting custom headers that's the thing
L375[14:22:53] <sugoi> scj643: write them yourself
L376[14:22:55] <sugoi> plain text
L377[14:23:59] <scj643> Oh that is better
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L380[14:24:13] <scj643> Love how OC gives you more control over CC
L381[14:24:24] <sugoi> scj643: the arg you pass to socket:write(arg) is a string
L382[14:33:17] <gamax92> scj643: do note that if you're going to do custom headers, "Connection: close" is recommended
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L384[14:36:02] <gamax92> A wild Reika has appeared
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L387[14:37:44] <vifino> A wild gamax92 was already there.
L388[14:37:53] * vifino hugs gamax92
L389[14:37:58] <gamax92> :3
L390[14:38:01] * gamax92 hugs vifino
L391[14:38:09] <vifino> How are you doing, gamax92?
L392[14:38:35] <gamax92> waiting to see if I'm getting a potential gift
L393[14:38:44] <vifino> Oooh, nice.
L394[14:38:52] <vifino> I hope you get it, gamax92.
L395[14:39:44] <gamax92> vifino: also, ideas for the most lightweight de/wm?
L396[14:39:58] <vifino> none?
L397[14:40:21] <gamax92> Well, I need at minimum the basic moving and resizing windows
L398[14:40:38] <vifino> There was a project which has shell scripts as a wm.
L399[14:41:08] <vifino> But if you just shoot for lightweight instead of bare minimum, something like awesome (the thing i am using now) or i3 would be good.
L400[14:41:30] <gamax92> as in lowest memory usage
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L402[14:43:17] <vifino> gamax92: How much ram is your maximum?
L403[14:44:01] <gamax92> :/ why does that matter, idunno less than 100
L404[14:44:09] <vifino> Then you are fine with awesome.
L405[14:44:29] <vifino> It currently uses 32mb reserved and 20mb shared here.
L406[14:46:27] <vifino> gamax92: It's just that if you had to go even lower and stuff, you may need something more minimal.
L407[14:46:48] <vifino> Awesome is a great tradeoff between flexibility and minimal.
L408[14:47:47] <Lizzy> :/ one of my pi's keeps getting stuck just after getting an ip
L409[14:48:02] <Lizzy> the other is fine
L410[14:48:41] <vifino> o.O
L411[14:48:57] <Lizzy> i'm gonna check the sd card
L412[14:55:31] <CompanionCube> someone wrote an X11 WM
L413[14:55:39] <CompanionCube> in under 100 lines of C.
L414[15:00:05] <vifino> nice.
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L416[15:03:39] <Lizzy> O.o okay, taking out the ethernet and rebooting allowed it to get to the login prompt
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L419[15:12:43] <gamax92> vifino: I settled for miwm
L420[15:13:09] <vifino> wtf is that.
L421[15:13:44] <gamax92> It's a window manager that satisfies my minimal needs
L422[15:13:56] <vifino> oh god it looks terrible
L423[15:32:47] <Reika> Is it possible to draw graphics on an OC monitor?
L424[15:32:58] <Reika> Not bars that are actually just colored text
L425[15:33:02] <Reika> actual vector/raster stuff
L426[15:33:25] <scj643> There is a CC mod for that don't think monitors support that
L427[15:34:45] <Mimiru> https://github.com/gamax92/OCLights2
L428[15:35:19] <Skye> Reika, no, but there is an issue where people are describing what they want a system to be like
L429[15:35:28] <Reika> ?
L430[15:37:27] <Sangar> it's been discussed on github for... a long time now, how an implementation of "graphics" rendering could look. but for now oc only has text rendering (though thanks to unifont that's pretty expressive, actually)
L431[15:38:40] <scj643> Should stay that way or it might get laggy
L432[15:41:05] <Sangar> that's one of the difficulties / why it's not a thing yet :P
L433[15:41:06] <tiin57> Almost certainly would; I tried to make a mod with pixel-level manipulation and oh my god was it laggy network-wise. Instead of one packet per text character, you had 40 and it sucked.
L434[15:41:37] <tiin57> The OC people are probably much better with compression and speed optimization than I was, but it's still a real issue.
L435[15:42:24] <scj643> PNG compression
L436[15:43:15] <Sangar> yeah, the networking is my main concern, really. that's also one of the reasons why drawspeeds are *relatively* slow in oc
L437[15:43:38] <ds84182> tiin57: maybe you should learn how to put multiple packets into 1
L438[15:43:46] <Sangar> because that means fewer/less large packets :P
L439[15:43:47] <ds84182> something somethings thats what OCLights2 does because it's based off my code.
L440[15:43:55] <ds84182> Well
L441[15:43:57] <ds84182> It is my code.
L442[15:44:24] <ds84182> And FYI, it sends draw commands, not pixels
L443[15:45:21] <Reika> I ask this because I was interested in making a "fill bar" sort of display
L444[15:45:39] <ds84182> Sure, it's 100% possible with OCLights2
L445[15:46:12] <ds84182> I just don't know how much gamax92 might of fucked up the drawing code, but it still should be able to do what you're asking
L446[15:46:18] <scj643> Fill bar would be possible in Unicode
L447[15:46:33] <Reika> i.e. render two rectangles with the same lower-left origin and width, but the "overlay" a lighter color and not the full height (%)
L448[15:46:33] <ds84182> Yeah, but it wouldn't look as nice
L449[15:48:50] <Reika> I doubt text would work
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L451[15:48:59] <ds84182> Text does work
L452[15:49:02] <Reika> since the vertical height of the bar would be far less granular
L453[15:49:05] <ds84182> in fact, theres a drawText method
L454[15:49:25] <ds84182> Woops, nevermind
L455[15:49:26] <Reika> So if I want the "overlay" bar exactly 57% as tall as the background one
L456[15:49:38] <Reika> And the nearest possible with text is 50%
L457[15:49:42] <ds84182> I thought you were saying that you doubted that text would work on OCLights2
L458[15:50:19] <Sangar> vertical resolution can be fake-doubled using unicode block chars, but yeah, there's a limit of course
L459[15:50:51] <Sangar> (and chars are exactly twice as high as wide, so that actually gives a 1:1 "pixel" ratio, btw)
L460[15:51:48] <Reika> That still gives me very low granularity
L461[15:51:59] <Reika> Unless the bar is absurdly wide
L462[15:54:00] <ds84182> All the hex editors for Linux suck.
L463[15:54:12] <ds84182> On windows you have HxD, which is a godsend
L464[15:54:14] <Reika> Can we safely update OC from 1.4.9 to 1.5 without losing either in-world blocks, program memory, or "metadata" like addresses?
L465[15:54:16] <Sangar> i suppose so. basically the highest actual "resolution" possible would be 160x100. for images dithering helps a ton, but for graphs and such, not ideal :P
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L467[15:54:55] <ds84182> But on Linux, you have "BLESS" "wxHexEditor (Beta)", and then a whole shizspew of command line crap
L468[15:55:16] <gamax92> ds84182: all I've done is add ovals and triangles
L469[15:55:24] <ds84182> gamax92: carry on
L470[15:56:04] <ds84182> Bless hasn't been updated since 2008.
L471[15:56:13] <ds84182> And there is a plugin system with no plugins.
L472[15:56:14] <Sangar> hmm, without losing blocks and metadata, pretty sure, whether computers would reset or not... i actually can't remember if something changed in the api that might cause that, so maybe.
L473[15:56:57] <ds84182> Oh, and bless just crashed on me
L474[15:59:07] <ds84182> Goodness gracious I think I found one thats decent
L475[15:59:18] <ds84182> But it's KDE so it has a shit ton of dependencies
L476[16:00:20] <vifino> Hey ds84182!
L477[16:00:30] <vifino> Lollipop works, yes?
L478[16:00:34] <ds84182> Yes
L479[16:00:39] <vifino> :D
L480[16:00:45] <vifino> Awesome!
L481[16:00:45] <vifino> Good job!
L482[16:01:05] <ds84182> Oh my god, Okteta is amazing
L483[16:01:10] <ds84182> built in structure viewer
L484[16:01:13] <vifino> Okteta?
L485[16:01:14] <vifino> oh
L486[16:02:33] <ds84182> God dammit but it doesn't have binary diff
L487[16:04:27] <vifino> rip
L488[16:09:34] <S3> Lool
L489[16:09:57] <S3> Kde can go away
L490[16:12:14] <ProbablyKodos> What did I miss
L491[16:12:22] <ProbablyKodos> 3 hour involuntary nap
L492[16:13:00] <S3> Hey
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L494[16:13:38] <S3> I gotta ice my pinky soon as I get home
L495[16:13:54] <Skye> #p
L496[16:13:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.960475615 Seconds passed.
L497[16:17:54] <S3> Where connection problems
L498[16:17:58] <S3> Where were
L499[16:18:04] <S3> Wtf pone
L500[16:18:29] <S3> Phone you let me misspell phone yet not wheee
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L502[16:26:21] <S3> OK
L503[16:26:26] <S3> I need a suggestion
L504[16:26:57] <S3> I really want to add sub partition support for SOPT
L505[16:28:00] <S3> There are two ways I can do it. Either I can implement actual sub partitions ( slower, more flexible)
L506[16:28:15] <S3> Or I can implement something I call logical boundaries
L507[16:29:25] <S3> A logical boundary is a way of grouping adjacent partitions into a logical group
L508[16:30:30] <S3> It's limitation is that you can not online more than later
L509[16:30:36] <S3> Layer*
L510[16:30:59] <S3> But it is much easier to implement and use
L511[16:32:09] <S3> If confused a logical boundary is just a segment divider. So you create a partition that is say 500 KB in size
L512[16:32:58] <scj643> GPT
L513[16:34:42] <S3> Then you add a logical boundary at sector 2. Each sector is 512 bytes so this means that you split it into two segments
L514[16:35:04] <scj643> How would I go about making http get requests and custom headers
L515[16:35:22] <S3> You end up with partition X and partitions X_1 and X_2
L516[16:35:59] <S3> Scj643- originally I had thought of that but this position table is designed for open computers
L517[16:36:17] <scj643> Oh
L518[16:36:44] <scj643> Anyone know anything about how http works and how I would implement pushbullet
L519[16:37:33] <S3> Scj: of the http stuff isn't sufficient then write it with TCP Ali stuff
L520[16:37:35] <scj643> https://docs.pushbullet.com
L521[16:37:47] <S3> Http protocol is simple
L522[16:38:01] <S3> Api*
L523[16:38:15] <scj643> Link that would help me with making this work
L524[16:38:37] <ProbablyKodos> ~w http api
L525[16:38:37] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:text
L526[16:38:43] <ProbablyKodos> ~w http
L527[16:38:43] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:internet
L528[16:38:49] <ProbablyKodos> Dat
L529[16:38:57] <scj643> No how http works
L530[16:39:43] <scj643> https://docs.pushbullet.com
L531[16:39:51] <scj643> Need to get that working
L532[16:39:56] <S3> Aha
L533[16:40:53] <S3> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7230
L534[16:41:04] <S3> That is http 1.1
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L536[16:41:55] <scj643> Something more to the point?
L537[16:42:10] <S3> That is the direct point
L538[16:42:19] <S3> Take a look at section 2.1 at the end
L539[16:42:25] <S3> Neat 2.2
L540[16:42:29] <S3> Near*
L541[16:43:00] <scj643> Could you make an example of the lua code I would use
L542[16:43:06] <S3> And RFC is the actual document that is written before it becomes standard
L543[16:43:22] <scj643> Ok
L544[16:43:46] <S3> I'm on my phone so no examples from me
L545[16:43:50] <Skye> #p
L546[16:43:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.262975591 Seconds passed.
L547[16:43:51] <S3> Lol
L548[16:44:31] <scj643> Internet.request doesn't work
L549[16:44:37] <S3> In most situations scj you can use the http api stuff we linked you
L550[16:44:48] <S3> Why not?
L551[16:45:02] <RaptorJeebus> i used a diff thing called pushover
L552[16:45:06] <RaptorJeebus> i can send you my code if you like
L553[16:45:50] <S3> It looks like it just needs get variables?
L554[16:46:23] <RaptorJeebus> oh wait nvm i lost the code rip
L555[16:46:40] <S3> Gm it requires header modifications
L556[16:46:58] <scj643> Yeah custom headers
L557[16:47:08] <scj643> It also returns json
L558[16:47:35] <S3> So yeah I'd you had to TCP socket will also work
L559[16:47:35] <S3> Scj: look up how to telnet http
L560[16:47:40] <S3> Should help
L561[16:48:00] <S3> Then you can try out the protocol yourself
L562[16:48:31] <S3> That is not an issue
L563[16:48:43] <S3> It probably uses a Jason mine type
L564[16:48:44] <S3> Mime
L565[16:49:10] <S3> So you can just use a Jason to lua table thing
L566[16:50:22] <S3> Json
L567[16:50:59] <S3> So tell me
L568[16:51:06] <S3> How is this push api stuff useful with oc
L569[16:52:12] <scj643> You could use it to send a message to your phone
L570[16:52:20] <scj643> On a server while your away
L571[16:52:24] <S3> Do they have a socket api too so you could receive push notifications to oc?
L572[16:52:30] <scj643> Yep
L573[16:52:38] <S3> Web socket*
L574[16:52:38] <scj643> Web sockets
L575[16:52:44] <S3> Cool!
L576[16:53:16] <scj643> So you can handle it the other way to
L577[16:53:24] <S3> Now all we need is a CCTV add-on for oc and opencv
L578[16:53:41] <scj643> Though there is a call li,it
L579[16:53:45] <S3> So you get push notifications when sangar sneaks in you base
L580[16:53:50] <S3> :)
L581[16:53:53] <scj643> Player detector
L582[16:54:18] <S3> Lol
L583[16:54:18] <scj643> That works
L584[16:54:24] <S3> CCTV would be great
L585[16:54:34] <scj643> You could push photos
L586[16:54:51] <scj643> But that would require the server to render stuff
L587[16:54:54] <S3> We also need gpu framebufffers
L588[16:55:07] <S3> So I can port aalib
L589[16:55:18] <S3> :D
L590[16:55:21] <scj643> Is their an "official" open computers server
L591[16:55:27] <S3> And make it play ASCII video
L592[16:55:33] <scj643> Lol
L593[16:55:48] <S3> No idea. We have a teamwork though
L594[16:55:54] <S3> Teamspeak
L595[16:55:59] <scj643> Ok where is that
L596[16:56:06] <scj643> Going to get teamspeak now
L597[16:56:11] ⇦ Quits: Nathan1852__ (~Nathan185@p5DC11AB9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 378 seconds)
L598[16:56:49] <Lizzy> scj643, nope, and there will never (unless sangar gets the time to set one up or oversee someone elses) be one
L599[16:57:35] <scj643> Dang
L600[16:58:39] <scj643> Dang teamspeak it isn't in the official repos for Ubuntu
L601[16:59:04] <Izaya> multiworld with forge how
L602[16:59:18] <scj643> Mystcraft
L603[16:59:30] <Izaya> ehh
L604[16:59:56] <Izaya> can't have separate gamemodes with that
L605[17:00:30] <scj643> Dang
L606[17:00:38] <scj643> Spigot
L607[17:01:01] <ProbablyKodos> Welp, gotta run. Wife wants the laptop
L608[17:01:07] <scj643> Lol
L609[17:01:12] <ProbablyKodos> Will be checking Github later for new stuffs, Sanger :3
L610[17:01:19] ⇦ Quits: ProbablyKodos (webchat@75-175-20-47.ptld.qwest.net) (Quit: Web client closed)
L611[17:01:56] <scj643> Anyone even on the teamspeak?
L612[17:04:54] <scj643> What is the teamspeak?
L613[17:07:34] <scj643> No one
L614[17:09:18] * Izaya is on a phone
L615[17:10:12] <scj643> Lol
L616[17:10:29] <scj643> We need to get the OC community together
L617[17:10:40] <S3> back
L618[17:10:44] <scj643> Nice
L619[17:10:50] <S3> man my pinky is swollen
L620[17:11:44] <scj643> Who thinks we should have a server that is used for sharing knowledge and teaching along with experimenting.
L621[17:12:38] <S3> The problem is what would be on it
L622[17:14:22] <gamax92> we have a teamspeak?
L623[17:14:30] <S3> yes
L624[17:14:36] <S3> I use it
L625[17:15:02] <Izaya> Creative
L626[17:15:07] <Izaya> Plots
L627[17:15:14] <S3> plots?
L628[17:15:21] <S3> you know guys
L629[17:15:32] <S3> a server to test the OCBSD ATM communication between towns could be useful
L630[17:15:37] <S3> with people who are OC savvy
L631[17:15:49] <Izaya> OC, Computronics, other OC addons
L632[17:15:49] <scj643> Yeah
L633[17:15:57] <scj643> And teaching new users how to use it
L634[17:16:02] <S3> I could host
L635[17:16:09] <S3> I have a lot of power
L636[17:16:21] <S3> cpu power*
L637[17:16:24] <Izaya> I would host except bandwidth
L638[17:16:25] <S3> and lots of ram
L639[17:16:29] <scj643> I got a VPN
L640[17:16:36] <S3> I can provide up to 250 mbit
L641[17:16:44] <S3> now that we moved our servers
L642[17:16:46] <scj643> That would work
L643[17:16:47] <Izaya> 3.5Mbps up woo
L644[17:16:50] <S3> used to get 1 gig up / down
L645[17:17:06] <S3> but 250 is fine
L646[17:17:14] <scj643> I got a mod pack setup thing is it has computercraft so I can use their stuff in OC
L647[17:17:35] <scj643> What is the teamspeak?
L648[17:17:43] <scj643> IP address?
L649[17:17:54] <S3> I dunno. it's on my windows box
L650[17:17:58] <S3> I'm on my BSD box
L651[17:18:10] <S3> Stary2001: probably knows
L652[17:18:25] <S3> and Sangar etc
L653[17:18:37] <scj643> Why isn't this posted anywhere?
L654[17:18:43] <S3> dunno
L655[17:18:57] <scj643> Also the forums is pretty much dead
L656[17:19:03] <S3> but yeah so computronics....
L657[17:19:23] <S3> what about a CGI perl script that lets you upload images for your managed and unmanaged floppy disks / hard drives?
L658[17:19:29] <S3> on the site
L659[17:20:18] <scj643> I got a VPS with 512mb of ram 20gb SSD and 1tb bandwidth
L660[17:20:28] <S3> every dedi I have has 32 GB of ram
L661[17:20:29] <S3> :)
L662[17:20:35] <S3> and I get unmetered bandwidth
L663[17:20:35] <scj643> Dang
L664[17:20:38] <S3> 250Mbit/s
L665[17:20:51] <scj643> The one I have is from digital ocean
L666[17:20:59] <S3> we run a lot of servers
L667[17:21:02] <scj643> Nice
L668[17:21:10] <S3> plus I run xen on em
L669[17:21:25] <scj643> Xeon
L670[17:21:27] <S3> so I can pull up a custom vps with like 15 GB of ram and a few cpus really fast
L671[17:21:39] <S3> they are Xen, but I'm talking about Xen
L672[17:21:51] <Izaya> that'd be cool
L673[17:21:51] <scj643> Nice
L674[17:21:57] <S3> They are xeon* but I''m talking about xen I mean
L675[17:22:07] <scj643> How much do they cost you
L676[17:22:13] <S3> xen is hypervirtualization
L677[17:22:23] <S3> originally 90 a month
L678[17:22:28] <S3> now 56 a month or si
L679[17:22:31] <S3> so*
L680[17:22:32] <S3> each
L681[17:22:45] <S3> now that we moved
L682[17:22:57] <scj643> USD?
L683[17:23:22] <scj643> € £?
L684[17:23:22] <S3> we run slackware on them, then load up minecraft servers on FreeBSDs with soecs we want,
L685[17:23:30] <S3> no US
L686[17:23:33] <scj643> Ok
L687[17:23:35] <S3> USDD yes
L688[17:23:40] <scj643> Wow that isn't bad
L689[17:23:43] <S3> no
L690[17:23:53] <S3> it was $90 through OVH
L691[17:23:58] <S3> $56 through so you start
L692[17:24:14] <S3> which are sorta the same company
L693[17:24:23] <S3> kinda
L694[17:24:50] <scj643> Do you think I could help with this.
L695[17:25:07] <scj643> A "official" mod pack
L696[17:25:46] <S3> hmm
L697[17:25:55] <S3> can we have zetta industries?
L698[17:26:02] <S3> and immersive engineering
L699[17:26:09] <S3> I want to test networking with OC with power lines :D
L700[17:26:09] <scj643> Try to keep it light
L701[17:26:11] <Izaya> ZI and IE, yus
L702[17:26:24] <S3> we can run our ATM network over the aerial telephone poles :D
L703[17:26:30] <scj643> I only have a 2.2 ghz dual core pentium and 4 GB of ram
L704[17:26:40] <S3> yeah wouldn't have much
L705[17:26:47] <S3> but ZI and IE helps with the wiring
L706[17:26:53] <scj643> Links
L707[17:27:02] <Izaya> Can we havr
L708[17:27:04] <S3> IE gives us telephone poles
L709[17:27:12] <scj643> I know I've used it
L710[17:27:17] <Izaya> have an asthetic mod or 2?
L711[17:27:19] <S3> and ZI gives us OC cables
L712[17:27:27] <S3> like?
L713[17:27:36] <scj643> Link to curse forge
L714[17:27:53] <Izaya> Chisel2 has simple blocks with lots of textures
L715[17:27:54] <S3> ZI is on github
L716[17:27:56] <S3> bout it
L717[17:28:01] <S3> I think
L718[17:28:16] <scj643> chisel 2 would make t
L719[17:28:26] <S3> chisel is bad
L720[17:28:26] <scj643> Going to start making a pack
L721[17:28:30] <sugoi> what's zi again?
L722[17:28:31] <scj643> Explain
L723[17:28:33] * sugoi forgets
L724[17:28:34] <S3> I love chisel but EVERY BLOCK IS A FRIGGING TILE ENTITY
L725[17:28:36] <S3> lol
L726[17:28:53] <S3> sugoi: zetta industries
L727[17:28:54] <Izaya> there's a build server for ZI *somewhere*
L728[17:29:05] <S3> you saying you download binaries?
L729[17:29:07] <Izaya> really?
L730[17:29:09] <S3> I just compile all the mods
L731[17:29:12] <S3> that have source
L732[17:29:21] <sugoi> is zi a good companion to ie, or should it be one or the other
L733[17:29:21] <S3> meh
L734[17:29:40] <S3> ZI is an extension to IE sorta
L735[17:29:46] <S3> ZI adds over the air OC cables
L736[17:29:49] <S3> for telephone poles
L737[17:29:55] <Izaya> ZI has no cables e
L738[17:30:01] <Izaya> without IE
L739[17:30:08] <S3> right
L740[17:30:36] <scj643> I have a key binding set to pkill -stop Java
L741[17:30:46] <scj643> And pkill -cont Java
L742[17:30:49] <S3> not pkill -9 ?
L743[17:30:51] <S3> :)
L744[17:30:53] <scj643> Lol
L745[17:31:00] <scj643> Kill -9 -1
L746[17:31:11] <S3> killall5
L747[17:31:15] <scj643> Busier backwards
L748[17:31:25] <S3> ok
L749[17:31:34] <S3> so did anyone have any suggestions about my idea earlier?
L750[17:31:41] <scj643> That's the magic sysrec key in the Linux kernel
L751[17:31:43] <S3> I think I know which way I'm going. just need comments
L752[17:31:48] <S3> REISUB
L753[17:32:04] <scj643> Yep if my computer freezes I do that
L754[17:32:09] <S3> lol
L755[17:32:38] <scj643> Doesn't corrupt my HDD
L756[17:32:49] <S3> well
L757[17:32:59] <S3> hitting the reset button shouldn't either
L758[17:33:03] <S3> or pulling the plug
L759[17:33:08] <scj643> That can
L760[17:33:12] <S3> it shouldn't
L761[17:33:19] <S3> it's 2015.
L762[17:33:25] <S3> use a journaled filesystem :P
L763[17:33:47] <scj643> If your using Ubuntu from a NTFS partition using wubi it breaks the install
L764[17:34:01] <Temia> Restart even if system's utterly broken~
L765[17:34:08] <scj643> Also should prevent data loss
L766[17:34:09] <Izaya> kek ubuntu
L767[17:34:13] <Temia> I really need to enable SysRq on my laptop for that situation
L768[17:34:15] <CompanionCube> wubi is a giant hack anyways
L769[17:34:21] <scj643> I know
L770[17:34:23] <S3> if you're using ubuntu from an ntfs partition you have other problems
L771[17:34:28] <scj643> I'm not
L772[17:34:31] <scj643> I used to
L773[17:34:53] <scj643> Still use Magic sysrec though
L774[17:34:57] <S3> even ntfs-3g support is not that great
L775[17:35:16] <S3> just seems like a bad idea
L776[17:35:20] <scj643> What idea were you talking about
L777[17:35:26] <scj643> The server idea?
L778[17:35:33] <S3> wubi
L779[17:35:35] <S3> it's a bad idea
L780[17:35:36] <S3> :P
L781[17:35:38] <scj643> No earlier
L782[17:35:45] <scj643> I got side tracked
L783[17:35:48] <S3> lol
L784[17:36:11] <S3> Temia: if you use Linux, it is enabled.
L785[17:36:16] <scj643> I just need links to the mods I need to add
L786[17:36:19] <S3> sometimes you have to hold shift and fn or something
L787[17:36:24] <S3> depends
L788[17:36:40] <scj643> If your on a laptop you might
L789[17:37:03] <S3> I think my thinkpad is shift + fn can't remembe
L790[17:37:04] <S3> rremember
L791[17:37:15] <Temia> No, not always. On some distros, the build flag for it in the kernel might be ticked off.
L792[17:37:25] <scj643> Ubuntu it's enabled
L793[17:37:30] <Temia> lol Ubuntu
L794[17:37:31] <Sangar> i'm off o/
L795[17:37:37] <scj643> See yah
L796[17:37:37] <Temia> or rather ewbuntu
L797[17:37:54] <scj643> I'm new to Linux and started with Ubuntu
L798[17:38:02] <scj643> I'm not using unity though thanks god
L799[17:38:21] <Izaya> I know a guy that started with arch
L800[17:38:29] <scj643> Using Ubuntu mate which is a remake of gnome 2
L801[17:38:32] <Temia> I skipped Ubuntu and skipped straight to Debian. Moved onto Arch not long after.
L802[17:38:38] <scj643> Lol
L803[17:38:41] <Izaya> managed to nuke his winderps
L804[17:38:56] <scj643> That's how I got the laptop I have today
L805[17:39:00] <Izaya> but he grew a magnificent beard
L806[17:39:18] <scj643> It was my moms nuked windows on accident she didn't want it back
L807[17:39:49] <Temia> Honestly, you kids.
L808[17:39:49] <scj643> S3 what do I need to add to my pack?
L809[17:40:06] <S3> poopcraft
L810[17:40:14] <S3> actually thats not stable yet
L811[17:40:18] <Izaya> tl;dr don't listen to /tech/
L812[17:40:20] <S3> nevermind that
L813[17:40:29] <S3> so we need OC
L814[17:40:29] <CompanionCube> I went Ubuntu -> Debian -> Arch
L815[17:40:44] <S3> does ZI and IE work on 1.8?
L816[17:40:48] <scj643> Oh wait doing pkill -stop Java is going to be a pain since it will start skipping major amounts of ticks
L817[17:41:05] <scj643> Not going with 1.8 afaik no power mods moved to it
L818[17:41:06] <Mimiru> S3, no
L819[17:41:12] <Izaya> Ubuntu -> Arch -> Arch/Debian
L820[17:41:13] <Temia> I stopped fucking with base-level OS systems on my parents' computers when I was 8, and there's plenty enough ways to secure old junkers to experiment with now compared to then.
L821[17:41:32] <scj643> Yeah hard for me though
L822[17:42:06] <scj643> S3 we going to get serious about this
L823[17:42:07] <Temia> Betcha there's a Freecycle in your area that you can sign up for and pick junkers off of.
L824[17:42:30] <scj643> I can make a private github repo to keep the mods in
L825[17:42:44] <S3> from highschool which was quite a long time ago, I went Slackware -> Ubuntu -> Slackware -> FreeBSD -> Slackware -> Arch -> Slackware -> Suse -> FreeBSD -> Slackware -> Sabayon -> Slackware -> ........ -> Slackware + FreeBSD
L826[17:42:51] <S3> oh yes
L827[17:42:54] <CompanionCube> anyone here sucessfully installed and used Gentoo?
L828[17:42:59] <S3> in that ... I teried many like Debian
L829[17:43:08] <sugoi> CompanionCube: i was going to be quiet
L830[17:43:09] <S3> but I hated Debian one of the most
L831[17:43:11] <scj643> Slackware much
L832[17:43:17] <Temia> Nice, S3.
L833[17:43:24] <scj643> I like Apt-get
L834[17:43:34] <CompanionCube> pacman <3
L835[17:43:41] <Temia> CC, I might try that on a spare box in the winter.
L836[17:43:45] <scj643> Lol
L837[17:43:45] <Temia> Just for the hell of it.
L838[17:43:48] <Temia> And for the free heating
L839[17:43:50] <S3> But that was also in the last 10 years or so
L840[17:43:57] <Temia> (Well, not free, but you know what I mean :V)
L841[17:44:20] <S3> dude.
L842[17:44:21] <CompanionCube> Temia: I never got a working install.
L843[17:44:26] <sugoi> CompanionCube: but yes, been a dedicated gentoo fan for about 12 years
L844[17:44:27] <S3> plug your power strip into itself
L845[17:44:35] <S3> infinite power, free heat
L846[17:44:40] <CompanionCube> no
L847[17:44:51] <CompanionCube> do it with an ethernet switch and a cable
L848[17:44:56] <scj643> CompanionCube: love how your abbreviations are CC
L849[17:45:01] <S3> .... no?
L850[17:45:15] <scj643> The other computer mod
L851[17:45:16] <CompanionCube> Make sure STP is disabled for extra warm goodness
L852[17:45:22] <S3> CompanionCube: somebody did that with a normal hub in ##networning on fn the other day
L853[17:45:26] <S3> what a whacko
L854[17:45:38] <CompanionCube> S3: broadcast storms!
L855[17:45:47] <Temia> Ahahaha
L856[17:46:11] <S3> oh ok so suggestions I almost forgot
L857[17:46:23] <scj643> So S3 what is your GitHub username
L858[17:46:29] <S3> SOPT gratures: ubpartitions or logical boundries.
L859[17:46:38] <S3> subpartitions or logical boundries*
L860[17:46:48] <S3> features*
L861[17:47:12] <S3> scj643: I have my pown private git server now
L862[17:47:23] <S3> but I havent moved much to it
L863[17:47:44] <scj643> Dang
L864[17:47:46] <S3> it is http://git.9600-baud.net/S3
L865[17:48:01] <S3> its currently empty until I fix something
L866[17:48:06] <S3> then shittons is going on it
L867[17:48:22] <S3> S3 was taken on github
L868[17:48:32] <S3> so I got mad and installed gitprep
L869[17:48:43] <scj643> gitlab?
L870[17:48:49] <S3> gitprep.
L871[17:48:56] <vifino> gitpleb
L872[17:48:56] <S3> gitlap is a bloated pos
L873[17:49:08] <S3> and a pain to configure manually
L874[17:49:19] <S3> gitprep is nice
L875[17:49:45] <scj643> oh ok
L876[17:50:01] <scj643> Well we need a place to keep the mods
L877[17:50:17] <S3> I dunno about you but gitlab installs nice on your ubuntu / debian box and works out of the box, but if you ever install it yourself it's ugly, and I do not trust software like that
L878[17:50:28] <scj643> Lol
L879[17:50:51] <Mimiru> I've done Ombibus, source, and now docker installs of gitlab, I've had few issues from any of them
L880[17:51:05] <S3> hence for example I do not use apache anymore as of like 5 years ago due to countless security vulnerabilities configuration and resource bloat
L881[17:51:14] <Mimiru> the main issue I've had is on my... larger repos the web editor won't work
L882[17:51:17] <S3> nginx all the way
L883[17:51:38] <scj643> Same
L884[17:51:40] <S3> plus nginx outperforms apache like crazy :)
L885[17:51:55] <scj643> My VPS runs Ubuntu 14.04
L886[17:52:19] <scj643> So what is the plan S3
L887[17:52:27] <S3> so
L888[17:52:44] <S3> can we do 1.8? does zi and ie work on 1.8
L889[17:52:55] <S3> and computronicsa
L890[17:53:03] <S3> computronics would be nice
L891[17:53:11] <scj643> We can't no power mods moved to 1.8 afaik
L892[17:53:12] <Mimiru> S3, no on all of the above
L893[17:53:23] <S3> hmm
L894[17:53:24] <Mimiru> zi, ie, and computronics are all 1.7
L895[17:53:26] <scj643> 1.8 forge is buggy to
L896[17:53:30] <S3> thats fine
L897[17:53:33] <S3> I'm not too upset
L898[17:53:39] <scj643> I got most of the mods
L899[17:53:43] <S3> I haven't had many problems
L900[17:53:57] <scj643> Just need to find where ZI is
L901[17:54:02] <S3> what do we have lined up
L902[17:54:06] <scj643> Anyone have a link
L903[17:54:06] <S3> github
L904[17:54:11] <S3> you should just compile it
L905[17:54:13] <S3> doesn't take long
L906[17:54:16] <scj643> Ok
L907[17:54:16] <S3> it has gradle
L908[17:54:22] <scj643> Even better
L909[17:54:37] <S3> its a pretty clean quick compile last I tried
L910[17:54:39] <scj643> Link though
L911[17:54:49] <S3> sure
L912[17:55:07] <Mimiru> ci.bymarcin.com
L913[17:55:10] <S3> 3~https://github.com/marcin212/Zetta-Industries
L914[17:55:14] <Mimiru> :P
L915[17:55:28] <S3> hhe has builds!@
L916[17:55:32] <S3> I have never seen those
L917[17:55:41] <S3> might as well use that then
L918[17:55:55] <Mimiru> used to be on ci.starchasers.pl
L919[17:55:58] <Mimiru> but it went poof
L920[17:56:00] <Mimiru> and he moved there
L921[17:56:14] <Mimiru> or was it starchasers.pl:8080
L922[17:56:17] <Mimiru> meh I don't remember..
L923[17:56:22] <S3> I have had 9600-baud.net for a while
L924[17:56:31] <S3> I removed jenkins
L925[17:56:42] <S3> because jenkins kept trying despite its config to access /
L926[17:56:45] <S3> for putting its crap
L927[17:56:51] <S3> and FreeBSD was like what are you smoking
L928[17:56:55] <Mimiru> Never had an issue with that..
L929[17:57:01] <S3> \lol
L930[17:57:14] <Mimiru> I run jenkins on a few servers
L931[17:57:18] <S3> yeah I was like wtf removing this.. waste of cpu power...
L932[17:57:30] <S3> it was over a year or two ago
L933[17:57:45] <scj643> My ip is scj643.softether.net can't afford a real domain
L934[17:58:12] <scj643> Just use a subdomain provided by a VPN project
L935[17:58:23] <S3> my ip is 2001:470:1802::1
L936[17:58:24] <S3> :D
L937[17:58:50] <Mimiru> And I'm 2001:470:1f0f:dec::1bad:babe :P
L938[17:59:42] <S3> Mimiru: aha.
L939[17:59:45] <scj643> The mods so far https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qg052Gws/mods2.png https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bCh8dR4H/mods.png
L940[17:59:49] <S3> you on a /64?
L941[17:59:53] <Mimiru> Yeah
L942[18:00:03] <S3> we got a /48 :)
L943[18:00:13] <Mimiru> I can get a 48 routed to me, I just have no use for it
L944[18:00:14] <S3> we have 65536 /64s :D
L945[18:00:21] <S3> we have a tinc VPN
L946[18:00:32] <scj643> I use softether
L947[18:00:33] <Mimiru> Hurricane Electric
L948[18:00:33] <S3> so we have like 64s going to all our friends appartments etc
L949[18:00:37] <gamax92> #p
L950[18:00:37] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.267156286 Seconds passed.
L951[18:00:38] <S3> yeah same here
L952[18:00:41] <S3> HE is great
L953[18:00:48] <Mimiru> Yeah
L954[18:01:02] <S3> but it's nice because we can link our vps's and dNS etc all through our /64s
L955[18:01:06] <scj643> Those pics are the mods so far
L956[18:01:29] <S3> hmm
L957[18:01:43] <S3> be careful with fastcraft
L958[18:01:51] <Mimiru> ^
L959[18:01:54] <scj643> Ok what can or will it break
L960[18:01:57] <S3> I didn't have any issues but a lot of people on our work pack had buggyness with it
L961[18:02:07] <scj643> Like?
L962[18:02:14] <Mimiru> I got worse performance with it.. :P
L963[18:02:16] <S3> I dont know, I had no issues
L964[18:02:39] <scj643> I only have 4 GB of ram and a 2.2 ghz dual core pentium b970
L965[18:02:47] <S3> if we have creative why do we need inv tweaks?
L966[18:03:05] <S3> also why industrial craft
L967[18:03:05] <scj643> It's just standard
L968[18:03:12] <scj643> This was my computer pack
L969[18:03:55] <scj643> Going to remove ic2 though that is buggy and lagorific sometimes
L970[18:03:57] <S3> masssound?
L971[18:04:07] <Mimiru> masssound ftfw :P
L972[18:04:14] <S3> dunno what that is
L973[18:04:21] <Mimiru> lets you play sounds via OC
L974[18:04:26] <S3> really
L975[18:04:26] <Mimiru> any MC sound, and most mod sounds
L976[18:04:31] <scj643> Scare your friends
L977[18:04:36] <S3> interesting
L978[18:04:43] <Mimiru> and with the playSoundAt I PRed into it...
L979[18:04:44] <S3> we had the dragon radio mod in our work pack
L980[18:04:47] <scj643> Have your computer with a self destruct card and a creeper hiss
L981[18:04:47] <S3> and then it got removed
L982[18:04:55] <Mimiru> you can play a sound anywhere from a computer
L983[18:05:03] <S3> it got removed with a message on the update of "noisy neighbor complaints"
L984[18:05:08] <scj643> Lol
L985[18:05:08] ⇨ Joins: Estaban (~estaban@r167-56-212-217.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy)
L986[18:05:10] <S3> apparently I was the noisy neighbor
L987[18:05:13] <S3> lol
L988[18:05:20] <S3> I keep my speakers down pretty low
L989[18:05:22] <Estaban> hello :)
L990[18:05:26] <S3> so I ha dthe radios up a lot
L991[18:05:28] <scj643> I might add that
L992[18:05:43] <scj643> For the coding music lol
L993[18:05:50] <S3> dragons radio mod doesnt work with most streams
L994[18:05:52] <Mimiru> Oh hey, I see a few of my mods there ^_^
L995[18:06:04] <S3> it claims tto but a lot of even mp3 ones dont
L996[18:06:12] <S3> Mimiru: ooh?
L997[18:06:13] <scj643> Yeah I ran into that issue too
L998[18:06:21] <Estaban> erm... alguien habla español aqui?
L999[18:06:23] <scj643> Their is another radio mod
L1000[18:06:38] <S3> Estaban: Vi estas parolis la Esperanton linvgo sinjoro?
L1001[18:06:48] <Mimiru> OpenPrinter and OpenSecurity
L1002[18:06:58] <Estaban> ...¿?
L1003[18:07:00] <Mimiru> You can also install OpenUpdater and get update announcements for them if you wanted :P
L1004[18:07:04] <S3> Esperanton Lingvo estas trebona lingvo :)
L1005[18:07:22] <Estaban> lo sinto no entiendo :c
L1006[18:07:29] <Estaban> siento*
L1007[18:07:41] <S3> vi duvas
L1008[18:07:50] <scj643> .........
L1009[18:08:10] <S3> scj643: mi estas parolis Esperanto amiko :)
L1010[18:08:15] <Temia> moo mooooo.
L1011[18:08:24] <Estaban> aaaaahh..
L1012[18:08:39] <vifino> S3: You sure he talks esperanto and not spanish?
L1013[18:08:49] <S3> I have no frickin' idea.
L1014[18:08:57] <Estaban> :U
L1015[18:08:58] <vifino> Because that's spanish and not esperanto.
L1016[18:09:03] <S3> :)
L1017[18:09:10] <S3> \but I can speak Esperantoi
L1018[18:09:16] <vifino> ¬_¬
L1019[18:09:20] <scj643> Never heard of that one
L1020[18:09:25] <S3> wutr
L1021[18:09:33] <S3> you have never heard of the language Esperanto?
L1022[18:09:45] <Estaban> yep
L1023[18:09:59] <Estaban> eh escuchado de ese idioma
L1024[18:10:11] <Estaban> y es muy difisil :U
L1025[18:10:18] <S3> Esperanto estas facila lingvo
L1026[18:10:27] <S3> ^ Esperanto is an easy language
L1027[18:10:28] <Temia> Esperanto is pretty much a glorified conlang :V
L1028[18:10:38] * Temia runs
L1029[18:11:19] <Estaban> algien conose algun servidor con computercraft?
L1030[18:11:49] <scj643> All I got was computercraft
L1031[18:12:18] <Temia> Same here, I'm afraid.
L1032[18:12:33] <Temia> Google to the rescue! Maybe.
L1033[18:12:46] <vifino> Gah, my spanish is terrible, but at least I can try to talk to him.
L1034[18:13:02] <Temia> Nope, nevermind, Google's choking on missing diacritics.
L1035[18:13:28] <scj643> Some computer craft server what
L1036[18:13:34] <Estaban> estuve 1000 años buscando servers con coputercraft y nunca lo encontre :/
L1037[18:13:51] <scj643> The computer craft stuff is their for their peripherals.
L1038[18:14:17] <vifino> Estaban: No hablamos nada excepto Ingles.. :/
L1039[18:14:26] <scj643> Lol
L1040[18:14:34] <Estaban> tengo un server con computercraft pero... tiene hamachi
L1041[18:14:35] <vifino> I probably messed that up, but oh well.
L1042[18:14:50] <Estaban> :C
L1043[18:14:57] <S3> ......
L1044[18:14:58] <Estaban> lo escribiste bien :D
L1045[18:15:07] <S3> according to google translate
L1046[18:15:07] <scj643> 元気
L1047[18:15:14] <S3> it says he doesnt speak anything but english
L1048[18:15:22] <S3> if I change the translation from english to esperanto
L1049[18:15:24] <S3> it translates to
L1050[18:15:25] <ds84182> I can actually designs http://i.imgur.com/BrqrluM.png
L1051[18:15:29] <S3> we don't spoeak anything but esperanto
L1052[18:15:36] <vifino> S3: no.
L1053[18:15:39] * Temia bops S3
L1054[18:15:43] <scj643> That is nice ds84182
L1055[18:15:43] <S3> lol
L1056[18:15:46] <vifino> Ingles = English.
L1057[18:15:49] <Temia> Vifino was saying that to Estaban, silly.
L1058[18:15:49] <S3> it actually ays that
L1059[18:15:49] <vifino> q_q
L1060[18:16:01] <S3> Ni ne parolas ion sed Esperanta
L1061[18:16:09] <Ekoserin> ds84182: neat
L1062[18:16:11] <ds84182> Esperanto looks like Spanish in many places
L1063[18:16:12] <scj643> 元気
L1064[18:16:19] <S3> if target engliush
L1065[18:16:20] <scj643> Try that
L1066[18:16:21] <S3> We do not speak anything but English
L1067[18:16:26] <S3> lol
L1068[18:16:37] * Temia ahem.
L1069[18:16:45] <Temia> No podemos hacer ninguna recomendación para los servidores ComputerCraft, porque no estamos #Computercraft.
L1070[18:16:46] <S3> esperanto takes the best from latin, several european and russian languages.
L1071[18:16:47] <ds84182> <S3> Esperanto estas facila lingvo
L1072[18:16:59] <Estaban> ...
L1073[18:17:00] <vifino> Temia: *sniff* I smell google translate.
L1074[18:17:02] <S3> yes Esperanto is an easy language
L1075[18:17:06] <S3> as ds84182 just said
L1076[18:17:16] <Temia> Vifino: well duh :V
L1077[18:17:19] <scj643> I'm learning Japanese
L1078[18:17:20] <Temia> Si desea un servidor OpenComputers, prueba el modpack TPPI2.
L1079[18:17:29] <Estaban> u.u enderman
L1080[18:17:30] <S3> and it looks like Esperanto is now available on duolingo!
L1081[18:17:31] <scj643> Harder than anything your doing
L1082[18:17:36] <S3> so you guys can start learning Esperanto :)
L1083[18:17:39] <Estaban> cual es la ip temia?
L1084[18:17:56] <scj643> Japanese is more worth it imho because I like anime
L1085[18:17:59] <vifino> And I must say, at least from his comments, he seems to at least use google translate too. He commented that my spanish wasn't that bad. :P
L1086[18:18:15] <S3> lol!
L1087[18:18:29] <Temia> No tengo una IP para usted. Vas a tener que encontrar un servidor TPPI2 ti mismo.
L1088[18:18:32] <Estaban> 1,2,3,4,5,6 6 crepers!!!!
L1089[18:18:41] <S3> I use translate when esperanto gets really messy
L1090[18:18:46] <S3> because I'm not perfect at it
L1091[18:19:05] <S3> but for the most part it is very simple
L1092[18:19:10] <scj643> 元気 translate that
L1093[18:19:16] <vifino> And I barely managed to say anything but that we don't talk anything but english here :P
L1094[18:19:18] <S3> I do not have unicode
L1095[18:19:31] <scj643> What!!!!!!!!
L1096[18:19:42] <scj643> dang so my Japanese is nothing
L1097[18:19:43] <Temia> TPPI2 está disponible en el FTB Launcher.
L1098[18:19:51] <S3> unicode is a pain
L1099[18:19:51] <vifino> Yeah, I didn't like spanish anymore since the third year.. Teacher changed, went from 2's to 5 and 6's.. :/
L1100[18:20:10] <scj643> What's wrong with Unicode
L1101[18:20:15] <S3> nothing
L1102[18:20:22] <Estaban> aaaahh :c no tengo el launcher ftb se nesecita cuenta premium y no tengo :C
L1103[18:20:26] <scj643> Coming from the guy using an iPad to IRC
L1104[18:20:43] <S3> I just dont like how its a pain to get working properly with irssi and guess what- urxvt! wtf! lol
L1105[18:20:47] <vifino> Ahh, "free" minecraft..
L1106[18:20:51] <vifino> Welp.
L1107[18:20:58] <Estaban> :U
L1108[18:21:04] <vifino> :X
L1109[18:21:19] <S3> scj643: ipad?
L1110[18:21:22] <S3> I do not have an ipad
L1111[18:21:23] <Estaban> bueno chau me voy a matar arañas :D
L1112[18:21:27] <scj643> In romaji its genki
L1113[18:21:33] <scj643> I'm on an iPad
L1114[18:21:33] <S3> I do not own a single apple product I can name
L1115[18:21:41] <S3> wait
L1116[18:21:47] ⇨ Joins: TangentDelta (~tangentde@63.143.24.22)
L1117[18:21:48] <S3> I do have an apple II somewhere..
L1118[18:21:52] <scj643> Got it through a grant
L1119[18:21:59] <Estaban> bye i go to kill some spiders >:D
L1120[18:22:05] ⇦ Quits: Estaban (~estaban@r167-56-212-217.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) (Remote host closed the connection)
L1121[18:22:09] <S3> wtf wasa that
L1122[18:22:16] <vifino> Google translate, duh.
L1123[18:22:24] <S3> what a troll
L1124[18:22:27] <vifino> ...
L1125[18:22:36] <vifino> What the fuck is wrong with you, S3?
L1126[18:22:42] <S3> :)
L1127[18:22:53] <scj643> S3 want to get the mod pack setup
L1128[18:23:11] <S3> I can later. going grocery shopping soon
L1129[18:23:13] <Temia> Me temo que no podemos ayudarle, Esteban. Comunidad Minecraft de EsperNet es en su mayoría usuarios premium.
L1130[18:23:39] <vifino> First you talk esperanto to someone only talking spanish from Uruguay, then you say "what a troll" to someone using google translate to talk english with us, who mostly use google translate to translate what he sais?
L1131[18:23:53] <scj643> Dang
L1132[18:24:00] <Temia> Oop, didn't notice he left.
L1133[18:24:01] <Temia> OH WELL
L1134[18:24:05] * Temia flops.
L1135[18:24:11] <scj643> S3 what was the mods that I need to add
L1136[18:24:16] * vifino picks up Temia and pets
L1137[18:24:22] <vifino> At least you tried hard.
L1138[18:24:24] <vifino> A+.
L1139[18:24:55] <scj643> S3
L1140[18:25:07] <Temia> Well, someone was going to have to make an effort to speak with him, I may as well try with what little I had. .-.
L1141[18:25:37] <Temia> Anyway it looks like he didn't use Google Translate for that last line -- he likely turned to his own English knowledge, or a lesser translator like Bing.
L1142[18:25:40] <vifino> And I tried to tell him that we only talk english here and that we most likely can't help him :c
L1143[18:25:48] <scj643> Now there is a #cryptography in espernet
L1144[18:26:02] <vifino> Yeah, something like that, Temia.
L1145[18:26:15] <Temia> Ah well.
L1146[18:26:25] <Temia> Situation resolved either way.
L1147[18:26:27] <vifino> I tried to write "Estaban: No hay much que hacer.. :/", but he left shortly before i hit enter :(
L1148[18:26:31] <scj643> I got my own setup of my own root certificate
L1149[18:26:45] <scj643> S3 you there?
L1150[18:26:45] <Temia> Albeit, in the immortal words of Roger Smith
L1151[18:26:47] <Temia> NO SIDE.
L1152[18:26:48] <Temia> :|
L1153[18:27:32] <scj643> Oh he popped in to #cryptography
L1154[18:27:55] <Temia> Oh dear.
L1155[18:28:19] <scj643> 7:26:16 PM <S3> best crypto: iterate through chars
L1156[18:28:33] <scj643> 7:26:17 PM <S3> shift <
L1157[18:28:54] <scj643> He is probably using znc or another bouncer
L1158[18:29:08] <vifino> that's pretty much caesar in a nutshell.
L1159[18:29:35] <vifino> wait, I'm probably derping hard
L1160[18:29:39] <vifino> i dont even know
L1161[18:29:46] <vifino> I'll sleep .-.
L1162[18:29:54] * Temia ties a triangle-patterned headband around Vifino's brow
L1163[18:29:56] <Temia> 'w'
L1164[18:30:01] * Temia giggleflee
L1165[18:30:22] <vifino> '.'
L1166[18:31:38] <Dashkal> 'giggleflee'. Ok, that needs to be a real expression now.
L1167[18:32:37] <vifino> I imagined it like Temiamoo walked on her toes, just like she would be sneaking like in comics and stuff, giggeling. '.'
L1168[18:33:00] <scj643> Computer is #10 most used word in this chat
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L1170[18:35:41] <esteban> hola?
L1171[18:37:01] <vifino> Buenos noches, esteban.
L1172[18:37:17] <vifino> ( notches? x.x )
L1173[18:37:22] <scj643> http://anvaka.github.io/pm/#/galaxy/debian?cx=18&cy=-6132&cz=-6371&lx=0.0978&ly=0.1816&lz=0.0312&lw=-0.9780&ml=150&s=1.75&l=1&v=2015-07-27T21-40-00Z is awsome
L1174[18:37:37] <scj643> Especially on my iPad
L1175[18:37:52] <esteban> :U
L1176[18:38:20] <esteban> de donde eres? vifino
L1177[18:38:45] <esteban> UUUHHh un zombi en mi puerta
L1178[18:39:15] <vifino> esteban: Alemania :)
L1179[18:39:30] <esteban> aaaaa
L1180[18:39:35] <esteban> yo de uruguay
L1181[18:39:38] <Temia> https://twitter.com/catboys_bot/status/642873667131678720 relevant to Vifino and the headband
L1182[18:39:38] <Temia> :>
L1183[18:40:40] <vifino> esteban: Que hora es?
L1184[18:42:57] <Temia> Also Vifino
L1185[18:43:07] <Temia> Technically I'm always walking on my toes
L1186[18:43:13] <Temia> Cuz' as a minotaur I got hooooves `o`
L1187[18:43:49] <vifino> Oh you.. You know what I meant.. x.x
L1188[18:44:43] <vifino> And holy fudge, my spanish is rusty. I should check my spelling and stuff with google translate.. I mean, it can't get much worse :X
L1189[18:44:48] <Temia> :B
L1190[18:44:49] <scj643> Anime
L1191[18:45:14] <Inari> http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1399703
L1192[18:45:20] <vifino> Aaand I should use ¿'s, since I got them mapped to a key..
L1193[18:45:23] <Dashkal> Fine then. Temia sneaking away en pointe
L1194[18:45:34] <vifino> I also have accent keys..
L1195[18:45:49] <vifino> I always sucked at accents and stuffs :D
L1196[18:46:17] <Temia> If I wasn't just copypasting I'd be using my Alt-Gr deadkeys too but ah well.
L1197[18:46:30] * Temia chibimooflops on Vifino's head. rubs ears. =w=
L1198[18:46:56] * vifino purrs
L1199[18:47:14] <scj643> I have an iPad it has those built in
L1200[18:47:46] <vifino> You also have autocorrection, but it doesn't place dots for you. :X
L1201[18:48:11] <scj643> Lol
L1202[18:48:21] <scj643> Shouldn't assume you want a dot
L1203[18:49:09] <vifino> No, but you should place one at the end of your sentences. :v
L1204[18:52:02] <vifino> Anyways. Sleeeeeeeeeep.
L1205[18:54:06] * vifino curls up and sleeps
L1206[18:56:19] <Ekoserin> Avast!, what the fuck? Stop judging my life choices.
L1207[19:07:44] <S3> ok back
L1208[19:07:49] <S3> and Ekoserin is here
L1209[19:07:56] <Ekoserin> I am.
L1210[19:08:03] <S3> so
L1211[19:08:06] <S3> suggestions.
L1212[19:08:34] <Ekoserin> Okay.
L1213[19:08:37] <S3> should SOPT support full inline subpartitions (complex and slower) or logical boundries (fast runtime and easy to implement, even on an eeprom)
L1214[19:09:07] <Temia> Pros and cons of each choice?
L1215[19:09:27] <Temia> Though you could just toss it all and instead spend your time writing a Creeper-tan visual novel.
L1216[19:09:40] <S3> so with full subpartitions, my design has a logical infinite number of subpartitions inside of subpartitions you cvan have
L1217[19:10:16] <S3> cons: why would you do that. 2. it's slower to work with. 3. implementations may not fit as easilyt on eeproms. 4. Operating systems may have trouble making a tree in /dev for them
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L1219[19:10:38] <Temia> It sounds like you're really not sold on the idea yourself, even]
L1220[19:10:39] <S3> with logical block boundries, it is easy to parse, easy to support, but it only supports one level of depth.
L1221[19:10:49] <S3> I'm not
L1222[19:11:12] <S3> but it allows you to do for example easy manipulation of virtual OC machines once the virt stuff comes out
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L1225[19:11:22] <Temia> Well, keeping in mind that our maximum possible space with default code is... 12MBs
L1226[19:11:32] <Temia> I don't think we need to worry about partioning that much.
L1227[19:11:37] <scj643> Yeah
L1228[19:11:42] <S3> why do you say that
L1229[19:11:48] <Temia> Er
L1230[19:11:50] <Temia> s/code/config
L1231[19:11:50] <Kibibyte> <Temia> Well, keeping in mind that our maximum possible space with default config is... 12MBs
L1232[19:11:51] <scj643> If you need that much storage change the configs
L1233[19:12:02] <S3> Temia: SOPT supports multi disk partitioning
L1234[19:12:07] <S3> as of 0.0.0
L1235[19:12:12] <scj643> Lol
L1236[19:12:14] <S3> it allows you to cluster disks
L1237[19:12:19] <S3> even if over a network
L1238[19:12:21] <scj643> Does it support software raid
L1239[19:12:29] <S3> of course not.
L1240[19:12:47] <S3> we all know that IRL software raid is better anyways in terms of features :PO
L1241[19:12:52] <S3> just not speed
L1242[19:12:59] <scj643> Then why use it partitioning is useful in what way in OC
L1243[19:13:13] <esteban> wem
L1244[19:13:27] <S3> well it already exists
L1245[19:13:28] <scj643> Also do you want to get a pack setup so we all can work on this
L1246[19:13:35] <Temia> I don't see a need to simply define seperate logical disks with a single layer of partioning then, if splitting across disks is a thing
L1247[19:13:37] <S3> SOPT verson 0 is already out
L1248[19:13:45] <S3> and somebody already has an implementation
L1249[19:13:48] <Temia> Er
L1250[19:13:53] <esteban> Hola
L1251[19:13:54] <Temia> I don't see a need that can't be solved by
L1252[19:13:57] <Temia> Blaugh.
L1253[19:14:01] <Temia> Maybe I should caffeinate more
L1254[19:14:04] <esteban> XD
L1255[19:14:09] <esteban> f
L1256[19:14:10] <esteban> f
L1257[19:14:10] <esteban> f
L1258[19:14:10] <esteban> f
L1259[19:14:11] <esteban> f
L1260[19:14:11] <scj643> We can all work together on one server if we can get a pack running
L1261[19:14:12] <esteban> f
L1262[19:14:12] <Temia> My fingers and my brain are simply not working.
L1263[19:14:13] <esteban> f
L1264[19:14:14] <esteban> f
L1265[19:14:15] <esteban> f
L1266[19:14:15] <esteban> f
L1267[19:14:16] <esteban> f
L1268[19:14:17] <esteban> f
L1269[19:14:18] <scj643> Damn
L1270[19:14:19] <Temia> Esteban, don't spam.
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L1272[19:14:27] <S3> there are a couple of purposes for using partitions Temia
L1273[19:14:33] <S3> for one it makes it easier for me to code OCBSD
L1274[19:14:38] <Temia> I didn't argue it
L1275[19:14:42] <S3> :)
L1276[19:14:47] <Temia> That was Scj.
L1277[19:14:47] <S3> oh yeah scj643 did
L1278[19:15:02] <scj643> Makes sense. Now
L1279[19:15:04] <Temia> I can understand partitions just fine, particularly as a primary Linux user.
L1280[19:15:19] <Temia> But infinite recursion seems a bit excessive.
L1281[19:15:20] <S3> in general it is true
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L1283[19:15:27] <S3> you can install OCBSD on a volume with no partition table
L1284[19:15:32] <S3> and just use MR.FS on it or something
L1285[19:15:45] <S3> but once virtualization starts working
L1286[19:15:48] <scj643> S3 you want me to get a pack set up
L1287[19:15:52] <S3> and OCBSD can be used to run virt servers in minecraft
L1288[19:16:04] <S3> oh yeah about that, where are we at
L1289[19:16:14] <scj643> Still need links
L1290[19:16:19] <Temia> At that point you may as well just define multiple logical disks and then partition them.
L1291[19:16:22] <S3> but once virt is working SOPT partitions can be useful for making VPS containers
L1292[19:16:23] <scj643> You never sent them to me
L1293[19:16:37] <Temia> Rather than one unwieldy, hard to back up, massive logical disk broken into more and more partitions .-.
L1294[19:16:56] <S3> Temia: well. SOPT does have a feature I think you'd like.
L1295[19:16:58] <scj643> For the immersive engineering and add on
L1296[19:17:07] <Mimiru> I linked it.
L1297[19:17:17] <scj643> Didn't get it
L1298[19:17:19] <S3> so let's say we go with logical volume boundries instead which I sort of favor the more I think of it
L1299[19:17:31] <Mimiru> http://ci.bymarcin.com
L1300[19:17:35] <scj643> Ok
L1301[19:17:36] <S3> let's say that you have a SOPT compatible eeprom bootloader
L1302[19:17:44] <S3> bootloader eeprom*
L1303[19:18:08] <scj643> 1 thing is the pack had to run on even the shittiest of machines 2.2 ghz dual core pentium and up
L1304[19:18:11] <Temia> We get what you mean.
L1305[19:18:12] <S3> if you change the bit so that they aren't GPT partition types, it will use local namespace
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L1307[19:18:45] <S3> and one of the partition types is unnamed so far, but it represents a partition that is literally just lua code, that ends with \0
L1308[19:18:58] <S3> unless I specify otherwise to fix it
L1309[19:19:19] <S3> this is useful because it allows for you to segment a side block that is part of your OS volume just for boot code
L1310[19:19:32] <S3> and the eeprom doesn't have to know the underlying filesystem your OS is on
L1311[19:19:46] <S3> and when you remove the primary partition
L1312[19:19:47] <scj643> Ok
L1313[19:19:51] <S3> all of them go away
L1314[19:19:57] <S3> or move it, etc
L1315[19:21:14] <S3> but a benefit of SOPT is that partitions can span multiple drives.
L1316[19:23:15] <scj643> That sounds nice
L1317[19:25:47] <S3> scj643: Do you have much experience with FreeBSD
L1318[19:25:48] <S3> ?
L1319[19:25:51] <S3> or BSDs in general
L1320[19:25:55] <scj643> Nope
L1321[19:25:57] <S3> FreeBSD makes use of subpartitions with UFS
L1322[19:26:00] <S3> and such
L1323[19:26:23] <S3> and so for consistency that's why I wanted something for that
L1324[19:26:30] <S3> I didn't want to write my own filesystem
L1325[19:26:39] <S3> since I will be using Magik6k's Mr. FS
L1326[19:27:19] <scj643> Nice
L1327[19:27:34] <gamax92> canadida
L1328[19:28:46] <S3> disks will use the um driver, so if you have a disk with 4 partitions , the 2nd logical boundry of that partition on that disk, if it is the first disk will be /dev/um0p3s1
L1329[19:29:01] <S3> it's a way of framing it so that the OS doesn't have to do extra work on the filesystem layer
L1330[19:29:28] <S3> (um stands for unmanaged)
L1331[19:29:51] <sugoi> um is also used in unmanaged speach
L1332[19:29:54] <sugoi> speech
L1333[19:30:10] <Temia> I'm guessing managed disks will not show up as block devices in turn.
L1334[19:36:18] <S3> no they will not. but OCBSD will handle it as a special device.
L1335[19:36:31] <S3> it will still be in /dev
L1336[19:36:53] <S3> teh OCBSD filesystem drivers adhere to a FUSE like API
L1337[19:37:04] <scj643> Dev is amazing
L1338[19:38:09] <Temia> Mm
L1339[19:40:19] <S3> I dunno if I will 100% go with the block char / special device setup though
L1340[19:40:25] <S3> since FreeBSD just deprecated it
L1341[19:40:37] <S3> they're using this new system they call "newbus"
L1342[19:41:14] <S3> as quoted: "However, in the versions of FreeBSD 4.0 and onward the distinction between block and character devices became non-existent."
L1343[19:41:27] <S3> so not recent that's ancient
L1344[19:52:04] <Ekoserin> I think Command Prompt looks really ugly in Windows 10.
L1345[19:52:28] <scj643> I love it
L1346[19:52:39] <scj643> Transparency
L1347[19:53:03] <Ekoserin> Very.
L1348[19:53:18] <scj643> Ctrl-v
L1349[19:54:49] <Ekoserin> Ah, changed the font settings. Looks a lot better now.
L1350[19:55:16] <scj643> Yeah
L1351[19:58:46] <scj643> S3 do you think you could setup the MC server
L1352[19:59:00] <scj643> Going to be using the latest forge
L1353[19:59:01] <Reika> Random question
L1354[19:59:06] <scj643> Shoot
L1355[19:59:14] <Reika> Can I specify "generally accessible functions" to OC
L1356[19:59:15] <Reika> ie
L1357[19:59:42] <Reika> a function that takes a String fluid name and returns an int representing its color
L1358[19:59:50] * scj643 takes bullet into the chest
L1359[20:00:04] <scj643> I have no clue
L1360[20:00:12] <Reika> I could easily do it on a TileEntity
L1361[20:00:21] <Reika> but having it there seems ugly
L1362[20:00:35] <ds84182> Reika: Nope, you can't make globally accessible apis, unfortunately
L1363[20:03:08] <gamax92> provided that code that takes a fluid name and gets a color from that can be done, I don't entirely see why it's impossible
L1364[20:03:27] <Reika> Well, I wanted to do it javaisde
L1365[20:03:47] <Reika> but that means registering the method to OC
L1366[20:03:51] <Reika> on a TileEntity is easy
L1367[20:04:08] <Reika> but if I wanted something general
L1368[20:04:13] <Reika> I would have to hack it
L1369[20:04:53] <gamax92> oh, well yeah. I don't believe Sangar has considered doing an api for something like that.
L1370[20:05:14] <S3> phew
L1371[20:05:19] <S3> I hope this server comes back up
L1372[20:05:33] <scj643> What server?
L1373[20:05:48] <S3> one at work
L1374[20:05:52] <scj643> Oh
L1375[20:05:56] <S3> I replaced the kernel
L1376[20:06:05] <S3> with a custom one I built and packed with Xen
L1377[20:06:44] <scj643> You did test it right?
L1378[20:06:54] <gamax92> should have backed it up, incase things go wrong
L1379[20:06:56] <S3> sigh
L1380[20:07:00] <gamax92> didn't you ever learn from DUAL BIOS?>
L1381[20:07:10] <S3> no
L1382[20:07:13] <S3> it did come up
L1383[20:07:15] <S3> it just did
L1384[20:07:25] <S3> I've been doing this for so long gamax92
L1385[20:07:26] <S3> :P
L1386[20:07:40] <S3> besides I go in tomoorrow
L1387[20:08:21] <scj643> This has nothing to do with bios
L1388[20:08:23] <S3> come on ssh
L1389[20:08:37] <scj643> My laptop is faster
L1390[20:09:01] <gamax92> scj643: that wasn't the point
L1391[20:09:03] <gamax92> the point was DUAL
L1392[20:09:26] <scj643> No bios has nothing to do with the kernel
L1393[20:09:33] <gamax92> ...
L1394[20:09:37] <Mimiru> ._.
L1395[20:09:42] <S3> okay wtf are you guys arguing
L1396[20:09:44] <gamax92> Mimiru: I want to stab it
L1397[20:09:57] <S3> I compiled a new kernel
L1398[20:10:03] <S3> packed it with xen, added it to lilo and rebooted
L1399[20:10:06] <S3> what's the big deal
L1400[20:10:19] <S3> if it didn't work it doesn't work, I didn't feel like adding a failover rule
L1401[20:10:32] <S3> since I am walking in tomorrow and this server isn't production yet
L1402[20:10:47] <S3> everything is fine now except that ssh isn't running..
L1403[20:11:06] <scj643> Lol that's the worst thing that can happen on a VPS
L1404[20:11:10] <S3> :)
L1405[20:11:14] <scj643> Or any remote stuff
L1406[20:11:21] <scj643> Kill ssh and your screwed
L1407[20:11:25] <S3> I know I set the port number this morning
L1408[20:11:39] <gamax92> scj643: unless you don't use ssh for remote access
L1409[20:11:43] <scj643> What is zetta industries
L1410[20:11:44] <S3> but before I rebooted I checked to see that rc.ssh was executable
L1411[20:11:56] <scj643> I use ssh for ssh and sftp
L1412[20:12:02] <S3> I'm port scanning like craxzy
L1413[20:12:06] <S3> to see if I typoed the port
L1414[20:12:15] <scj643> Lol
L1415[20:12:16] <S3> wshould be boobs backwards on a calculator
L1416[20:12:33] <scj643> Lol
L1417[20:13:16] <S3> ~9 -[=89/>I have a feeling ssh didn't pull up on its own
L1418[20:13:29] <S3> but the good news is..
L1419[20:13:33] <S3> WE HAVE XEN!
L1420[20:13:43] <scj643> Yah
L1421[20:13:50] <S3> now we can do our virt farm
L1422[20:14:35] <S3> its actually really freaky
L1423[20:14:38] <S3> because due to resources
L1424[20:14:43] <S3> this server is only temporary
L1425[20:14:48] <S3> as soon as we move stuff aorund
L1426[20:14:59] <S3> we're moving this entire virt server installation to another server
L1427[20:15:07] <scj643> Wow
L1428[20:15:07] <S3> but that's why I packed it in lvm :D
L1429[20:15:25] <scj643> Soon we will have a mod pack
L1430[20:16:19] <S3> cool
L1431[20:16:26] <S3> mc server is NOT going on work servers
L1432[20:16:35] <S3> lol
L1433[20:16:41] <S3> if you were wondering
L1434[20:17:08] <S3> is it a curse pack?
L1435[20:17:51] <scj643> I know
L1436[20:17:59] <S3> ?
L1437[20:17:59] <scj643> It isn't going on work servers
L1438[20:18:04] <S3> oh lol
L1439[20:18:29] <scj643> Not putting it on curse because I'm not taking the time to go over licenses
L1440[20:18:44] <S3> I can't use it anyweays
L1441[20:19:03] <S3> in fact I can't even use FTB, I can download the pack, but I have to prt it to the official launcher
L1442[20:19:13] <scj643> Multi mc pack
L1443[20:19:14] <S3> friend of mine and I recently forked FTBLauncher from git
L1444[20:19:30] <S3> and I haven't finished the FreeBSD patches for multiMC on git either :P
L1445[20:19:55] <S3> I had it mostly finished
L1446[20:22:11] <scj643> Oh
L1447[20:22:21] <S3> its fine
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L1449[20:22:26] <scj643> FreeBSD doesn't like MC
L1450[20:22:44] <S3> not really, it's more that a: multiMC is a portable C++ program
L1451[20:22:51] <S3> and that means that it has a LOT of support for many systems
L1452[20:22:55] <S3> it's not really "portable"
L1453[20:23:04] <S3> FreeBSD was unsupported so I took on that project
L1454[20:23:41] <S3> MC in general doesn't like FreeBSD because the idiot who write Minecraft decided to ship with lwjgl libraries and doesn't check the running system for them first, the moron.
L1455[20:24:11] <S3> so we FreeBSD users have to write a wrapper that encapsulates the java executable
L1456[20:24:17] <S3> and passes the lwjgl path to the system path
L1457[20:24:30] <S3> and then tell minecraft thats where the java binary is installed
L1458[20:24:50] <scj643> I'm sticking with Ubuntu and Debian derivatives for now
L1459[20:25:10] <scj643> Pack is mostly all set
L1460[20:25:12] <S3> FreeBSD is not Linux :_)
L1461[20:25:42] <scj643> Is it at least *nix
L1462[20:26:04] <S3> it's way more than that :)
L1463[20:26:18] <S3> BSD is actually -technically- a true UNIX
L1464[20:26:56] <S3> it's because BSD was a 1:1 rewrite of AT&T UNIX itself, by, a friend of ken thompson
L1465[20:27:11] <scj643> Wow
L1466[20:27:23] <S3> the functions were rewritten to not have the AT&T proprietary copyrights
L1467[20:27:30] <scj643> Well in the pack we can have telephone like poles
L1468[20:27:32] <S3> and ken was okay with that
L1469[20:27:47] <S3> yes? because we have ZI and IE right?
L1470[20:27:47] <Mimiru> ZI adds OC wires, and lots of other neat stuff
L1471[20:27:52] <S3> :)
L1472[20:27:54] <scj643> I got that
L1473[20:27:56] <S3> cool
L1474[20:28:01] <S3> also lets you run power
L1475[20:28:02] <scj643> Going to remove ic2
L1476[20:28:20] <S3> immersive integration gives you redstone bundle cable and applied energistics wires for it but
L1477[20:28:21] <Mimiru> Do you have AE2?
L1478[20:28:32] <Mimiru> Yeah I was abotu to ask if you had II :P
L1479[20:29:00] <S3> do we need it on a creative server?
L1480[20:29:41] <scj643> That's up to you I'm just making the pack
L1481[20:29:58] <S3> up to community
L1482[20:30:10] <scj643> Yep
L1483[20:30:52] <scj643> Should I include CC so we can use the peripheral add ones
L1484[20:31:03] <S3> you know we (9600) also host the official xkcd server :D
L1485[20:31:06] <S3> for MC
L1486[20:31:18] <scj643> Xkcd?
L1487[20:31:24] <S3> yeah xkcd has a server
L1488[20:31:25] <Mimiru> %xkcd
L1489[20:31:26] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Random XKCD Comic: http://xkcd.com/72/
L1490[20:31:27] <S3> an mc server
L1491[20:31:53] <scj643> Ok
L1492[20:33:04] <scj643> Idk about that server but with this it would be fore people in the IRC and forums
L1493[20:33:26] <S3> anuone having netflix problems?
L1494[20:33:52] <S3> apparently a massive ammount of people are complainingh
L1495[20:36:05] <scj643> I'm not
L1496[20:36:24] <dangranos> %xkcd 1
L1497[20:36:24] <MichiBot> dangranos: XKCD Comic Name:Barrel - Part 1 URL: https://xkcd.com/1
L1498[20:36:32] <dangranos> %xkcd time
L1499[20:36:32] <MichiBot> dangranos: Invalid ID
L1500[20:36:35] <dangranos> meh
L1501[20:36:46] <Mimiru> Yeah... I've not finished it yet
L1502[20:37:05] <Mimiru> It will show the comic name if you link one though.. lol
L1503[20:37:18] <ds84182> Mimiru: context2relevantxkcd
L1504[20:37:24] <ds84182> dooooeeeet
L1505[20:37:41] <Mimiru> nah
L1506[20:37:56] <ds84182> I'll just have to abuse Boop then
L1507[20:38:00] <scj643> https://www.dropbox.com/s/txjkrh21hxvjs29/Light%20computer%20pack.zip?dl=0
L1508[20:38:10] <scj643> The pack
L1509[20:39:11] <ds84182> So first I need to scrape all the JSON files from XKCD
L1510[20:40:31] <scj643> I need to parse json from pushbullet
L1511[20:41:01] <ds84182> scj643: http://regex.info/code/JSON.lua
L1512[20:41:18] <ds84182> Works in every single version of Lua 5.1+
L1513[20:41:32] <scj643> Nice
L1514[20:45:19] <scj643> My headphones are off balance
L1515[20:49:33] <ds84182> Yay, scraper works
L1516[20:53:41] <S3> I get really mad when music players, etc do not have a balance adjustment
L1517[20:54:02] <scj643> Yeah
L1518[20:54:08] <ds84182> Ok, so all XKCD json files are scrapped
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L1520[20:59:39] <Reika> Another question
L1521[20:59:45] <Reika> the documentation says bit32 is supported
L1522[20:59:59] <Reika> but when I try to use it ingame, it says "attempted to access global 'bit', a nil value"
L1523[21:00:21] <Reika> I have the 'local bit32 = require("bit32")' line
L1524[21:00:49] <S3> 5.3?
L1525[21:01:07] <S3> afaik bit32 is supported on 5.2
L1526[21:01:20] <S3> but you can use bitwise operators on 5.3
L1527[21:01:29] <S3> like ^ and ~ and >>, <<, |, &, etc
L1528[21:02:12] <RaptorJeebus_> alright, i have a question, i've never had to work with 2 monitors before, how do i make it not using the second monitor as a primary, i only want it to render text
L1529[21:02:21] <RaptorJeebus_> not use*
L1530[21:02:44] <Reika> I have no idea what lua version I am using
L1531[21:02:49] <Reika> Just OC 1.4.9
L1532[21:03:03] <RaptorJeebus_> also, text needs to be MUCH bigger lmao http://i.imgur.com/V7T6tmO.jpg
L1533[21:03:04] <S3> Reika: you can switch between them by shift clicking with a cpu in hand
L1534[21:03:09] <Reika> oh
L1535[21:03:11] <Reika> which is default
L1536[21:03:21] <S3> I think 5.3 but don't take my word for it
L1537[21:03:28] <Mimiru> iirc, it's 5.2
L1538[21:03:40] <S3> either way bit32 is definately on 5.2
L1539[21:04:22] <Mimiru> It should tell you if you start the lua interpreter
L1540[21:05:29] <Reika> 5.2.3
L1541[21:05:32] <Reika> changing it now
L1542[21:06:18] <Reika> shift-right-click just says "Architechture: Lua"
L1543[21:06:29] <S3> uh
L1544[21:06:40] <Mimiru> Wasn't that added in OC 1.5..?
L1545[21:06:44] <S3> shift left click?
L1546[21:06:45] <Reika> oh
L1547[21:06:52] <S3> I dunno which it was
L1548[21:07:02] <Reika> shift-left does nothing
L1549[21:07:07] <Temia> Yeah, Lua 5.3 wasn't implemented yet.
L1550[21:07:09] <S3> huh. works for me
L1551[21:07:18] <Reika> ok, but even still, bit32 was not working
L1552[21:07:20] <Reika> even in 5.2
L1553[21:07:32] <S3> maybe bit32 wasn't available for that OC version
L1554[21:07:38] <S3> you should seriously update
L1555[21:07:46] <Reika> can I safely do it
L1556[21:07:57] <S3> well..
L1557[21:07:59] <Temia> Yes, there's zero danger.
L1558[21:08:06] <Reika> eg no API changes?
L1559[21:08:11] <S3> you running 1.7.10?
L1560[21:08:11] <Temia> Nothing has been changed or removed.
L1561[21:08:13] <Reika> Soyes
L1562[21:08:15] <Reika> >>yes
L1563[21:08:22] <Reika> ok, updating
L1564[21:08:24] <Temia> I'm surprised. You're usually so insistent that folks update your mods.
L1565[21:08:27] <S3> \yeash then just use latest :D
L1566[21:08:43] <S3> lol
L1567[21:08:46] <Reika> Yes, but I was not aware of an OC update until this morning
L1568[21:08:53] <Temia> Ah. o.o
L1569[21:09:02] <S3> I've been using 5.3 in OC for over a couple months
L1570[21:09:04] <Temia> I believe OC does have an update checker... Unless that's relatively recent too.
L1571[21:09:09] <Mimiru> duuuude, 1.5 has been out for aaaages
L1572[21:09:22] <S3> 1.5.01_beta !
L1573[21:10:00] <Mimiru> February was the first 1.5 release
L1574[21:10:00] <Mimiru> wow..
L1575[21:10:22] <Reika> 1.5.17.33?
L1576[21:10:24] <Temia> Well anyway, no big deal. It's dealt with now.
L1577[21:10:27] <Reika> Everything newer is 1.8
L1578[21:10:28] <Temia> That should be latest, yeah
L1579[21:10:32] <S3> Reika: I dunno whatever is latest
L1580[21:11:04] <Temia> OC development in 1.7.10 hasn't ceased, so I'm pretty sure any version differences are just platform-specific bugfixes.
L1581[21:11:07] <Mimiru> yes, .33 is the latest "release"
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L1584[21:12:13] <Ekoserin> NVIDIA!
L1585[21:12:22] <Ekoserin> Darn you!
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L1588[21:16:03] <Reika> Is log spam of "Bad Permanent value" normal?
L1589[21:16:14] <Reika> ChunkProviderServer.loadChunk is involved
L1590[21:16:31] <Reika> no crash...yet
L1591[21:16:50] <Temia> ...That's... new to me. o.o
L1592[21:17:22] <Temia> Did you have a robot with a chunkloader upgrade set out?
L1593[21:17:49] <Reika> no robots in world at all
L1594[21:17:55] <S3> Reika: any error in Java is normal
L1595[21:17:59] <S3> that's why it's called Java
L1596[21:18:02] <Reika> ...
L1597[21:18:18] <Reika> Also, possibly related, server is taking far longer in the "looks up but is not connectable" phase
L1598[21:18:22] <S3> Eatin memories one stick o' ram at a time
L1599[21:18:36] <Reika> ie. the phase where the number of players is "???"
L1600[21:18:46] <Reika> http://i.imgur.com/hhtQY21.png
L1601[21:19:32] <S3> that means there's an unknown ammount of players
L1602[21:19:33] <Temia> Dump the log somewhere? This is intriguing.
L1603[21:19:33] <S3> lol jk
L1604[21:19:35] <S3> whats your texture pack
L1605[21:19:37] <gamax92> bit32 has been there since the beginning ... also OpenOS provides bit32 when you're on 5.3
L1606[21:20:03] <Reika> part of the log
L1607[21:20:05] <Reika> http://i.imgur.com/BNA5ROL.png
L1608[21:20:07] <Reika> whole thing is 37MB
L1609[21:20:11] <Reika> and rising
L1610[21:20:11] <S3> gamax92 as been here since the end
L1611[21:20:21] <Reika> S3: Texture pack is a custom one
L1612[21:20:35] <S3> O M G WTF
L1613[21:20:41] <S3> WHAT IS THAT UGLY OPERATING SYSTEM
L1614[21:20:48] <Reika> Some linux thing
L1615[21:20:51] <Reika> ask Demosthenex
L1616[21:20:58] <S3> gyg,
L1617[21:21:01] <S3> huh.
L1618[21:21:04] <gamax92> Reika: I think that might be old persistent data not fully compatible with newer OC
L1619[21:21:11] <S3> what's Linux?
L1620[21:21:19] <Reika> ...I was told I could safely update
L1621[21:21:43] <gamax92> what was your old version though
L1622[21:21:47] <Reika> 1.4.9
L1623[21:21:52] <Mimiru> I went from 1.4. something to 1.5 with little issue.
L1624[21:22:08] <Ivoah> "THAT UGLY OPERATING SYSTEM" is Windows, logged into a (presumably) linux box
L1625[21:22:14] <Temia> I wonder if there's some yet-undiscovered interaction bug going on here.
L1626[21:22:30] <Reika> I can give you the modlist
L1627[21:22:31] <S3> What's Linux?
L1628[21:22:41] <Ivoah> S3: you serious?
L1629[21:22:50] <gamax92> no he's not serious >_>
L1630[21:22:51] <Temia> No, he isn't.
L1631[21:22:53] <S3> sure
L1632[21:22:54] <Ivoah> good
L1633[21:22:54] <Temia> He's just pulling your leg
L1634[21:23:00] <Reika> Trying another reboot
L1635[21:23:03] <Ivoah> gimme my leg back
L1636[21:23:06] <Reika> Had to Ctrl-C the server though
L1637[21:23:28] <S3> lol
L1638[21:23:34] <Ekoserin> S3, could you not pull as hard? It's gonna come off if you keep doing that.
L1639[21:23:35] <Temia> Actually, hang on. Something might be going on with the machine state. Were you in the midst of anything when you brought it down for updating?
L1640[21:23:45] <S3> Ekoserin: meh
L1641[21:23:53] * Ekoserin is now AFK
L1642[21:23:54] <S3> I really do want to know what this Linux is all about though
L1643[21:24:11] <S3> someday..
L1644[21:24:18] <Ekoserin> It's an OS for hackers.
L1645[21:24:24] <S3> really now
L1646[21:24:27] <S3> hackers
L1647[21:24:31] <Reika> modlist: http://pastebin.com/aWWTTvS4
L1648[21:24:35] <Ekoserin> Hackers.
L1649[21:24:38] <S3> Reika: HACKER!
L1650[21:24:48] <S3> There is a hacker in this channel ^^^^
L1651[21:24:48] * Ekoserin is AFK for real this time
L1652[21:24:49] <Temia> Might want to rename your server's opencomputers/state directory to something innocuous and try again.
L1653[21:25:05] <Reika> Log is acting the same
L1654[21:25:19] <Reika> ok, will try
L1655[21:25:44] <Reika> I assume that just stores running programs?
L1656[21:25:50] <Reika> I do not care if I need to reboot the computers
L1657[21:25:51] <Temia> Running systems in general, yeah.
L1658[21:25:55] <gamax92> Yes
L1659[21:26:05] <Reika> do they auto-boot when the server launches?
L1660[21:26:10] <Reika> I could make a startup script
L1661[21:26:12] <Temia> That I'm not certain about.
L1662[21:26:29] <Temia> Probably, though.
L1663[21:26:33] <S3> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
L1664[21:26:33] <MichiBot> S3: GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address CSI | length 15s | Likes: 11421 Dislikes: 257 Views: 2390455 | by xerohour
L1665[21:26:48] <Temia> At least any that were on when the server was shut down.
L1666[21:27:08] <S3> whos bot is that btw?
L1667[21:27:17] <Mimiru> Mine
L1668[21:27:23] <S3> :>
L1669[21:27:25] <S3> can I test it?
L1670[21:27:31] <Reika> New error
L1671[21:27:37] <Reika> LuaRuntimeException: Could not read data
L1672[21:27:48] <Mimiru> S3, I can easily just have it ignore you. Your choice.
L1673[21:27:59] <S3> lol!
L1674[21:28:15] <S3> I was going to test to see if it was vulnerable to the CRLF exploit
L1675[21:28:17] <Reika> Same stacktrace as the last one
L1676[21:28:24] <S3> that's all
L1677[21:28:24] <Temia> Still repeating?
L1678[21:28:29] <Reika> less
L1679[21:28:34] <Reika> also happened later in the loading phase
L1680[21:28:44] <Mimiru> S3, sure..
L1681[21:28:49] <Reika> wait..maybe not
L1682[21:28:51] <S3> Mimiru: some bots just spit out HTTP titles verbatim
L1683[21:28:56] <Temia> Well, if it continues, I'd be worried, but if it happens only in a burst, that's just the state being invalidated.
L1684[21:29:09] <Reika> Well, the server is still frozen
L1685[21:29:10] <S3> and if you throw a \n in there pr \r\n it will send the rest as a seconnd message to the IRC server
L1686[21:29:16] <Temia> There was probably a more elegant way to reset machine states >.>;
L1687[21:29:21] <S3> allowing you to literally send IRC commands
L1688[21:29:25] <Temia> But I can't think of it at the moment
L1689[21:29:29] <Temia> Hm. Concerning.
L1690[21:29:37] <scj643> Reika: wish you coud do reisub
L1691[21:29:40] <Reika> ?
L1692[21:29:54] <S3> Mimiru: funny enough, we found this out because we had a bot in our channel spamming like crazy
L1693[21:29:55] <Temia> Scj, the MINECRAFT server is still frozen, not the entire VPS
L1694[21:30:08] <scj643> Which one
L1695[21:30:31] <Reika> Temia is correct
L1696[21:30:35] <S3> so we made it part the channel :D
L1697[21:30:36] <Reika> SCreen is still responsive
L1698[21:30:41] <scj643> Pkill -kill Java problem solved
L1699[21:30:48] <Reika> No
L1700[21:30:55] <scj643> Why not
L1701[21:30:57] * Temia sighs.
L1702[21:30:59] <Reika> Because the server is unlaunchable
L1703[21:31:07] <Temia> Scj the fact that it's frozen isn't the problem
L1704[21:31:11] <Reika> Freezes about 30s before it would normally complete
L1705[21:31:13] <scj643> Kill -9 -1
L1706[21:31:14] <Temia> It's a symptom of the actual problem we're trying to solve
L1707[21:31:19] <Reika> right after NetHandlerPlayServer is loaded
L1708[21:31:30] * Temia suplexes Scj :E
L1709[21:31:32] <Reika> I know that because DualHotBar and CC finish their ASM into it
L1710[21:31:43] <S3> ASM...?
L1711[21:31:55] <scj643> Thought this was Java
L1712[21:31:56] <Reika> Runtime class editing
L1713[21:32:01] <S3> haha.
L1714[21:32:03] <S3> oh
L1715[21:32:07] <S3> meta programming
L1716[21:32:09] <S3> :)
L1717[21:32:13] <S3> thats tuff is fun
L1718[21:32:16] <Reika> Necessary if you want to change existing behavior w/o forge hooks
L1719[21:32:26] <S3> I do a lot of meta programming with Perl OOP
L1720[21:32:43] <scj643> Try asmemblh
L1721[21:32:56] <S3> In fact, I am actually doing a talk on meta programming in an object oriented world
L1722[21:32:58] <Reika> At any rate, I am going to downgrade the version again, for now
L1723[21:33:00] <Temia> Anything since, Reika, or is it still dead?
L1724[21:33:06] <Reika> Still frozen
L1725[21:33:18] <Reika> no progress since it stopped
L1726[21:33:26] <Temia> Well, I've got one more idea, and that's just flipping on disablePersistence in the config
L1727[21:33:33] <Reika> ok
L1728[21:33:42] <S3> OH YEAH
L1729[21:33:45] <S3> I bet you that's what it is
L1730[21:33:47] <S3> lua states
L1731[21:34:05] <Temia> >_>
L1732[21:34:06] <scj643> Assembly for the z89
L1733[21:34:10] <Reika> Trying
L1734[21:34:13] <S3> no!
L1735[21:34:17] <S3> z80180
L1736[21:34:27] <Reika> If it works, can I re-enable persistence
L1737[21:34:29] <Reika> ?
L1738[21:34:30] <Reika> I assume so
L1739[21:34:32] <Temia> I'm sorry, Reika. Usually the channel isn't this easily distracted.
L1740[21:34:34] <Temia> Probably.
L1741[21:34:36] <S3> yeah I would assume so Reika
L1742[21:34:40] <Temia> This is a new situation so I can't be sure.
L1743[21:34:40] <scj643> Z80
L1744[21:34:51] <S3> that's because its late Temia
L1745[21:34:52] <Ivoah> scj643: What are you doing with z80?
L1746[21:35:01] <S3> yeah dude
L1747[21:35:05] <S3> z80180 is much better
L1748[21:35:08] <Reika> Also, this is far from the worst I have seen for distractions
L1749[21:35:12] <Temia> If it STILL doesn't work after this, then might be best to put up the latest log for further study. After removal of identifying data, of course.
L1750[21:35:26] <Temia> I know, but it's far from the best this channel can be.
L1751[21:35:30] <Reika> half of the reason I avoid IRC is most channels are full of people playing bot games, discussing random things, and so on
L1752[21:35:50] <Reika> And asking a question regarding plugging into a mod is impossible when 20 people are spamming !upgrade or "OOK OOK OOK"
L1753[21:35:51] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L1754[21:35:51] <S3> discussing random things is the point of IRC
L1755[21:35:59] <Temia> True.
L1756[21:36:16] * Reika looks at MCForge and AE channels
L1757[21:36:18] <Temia> It's probably less chaotic on Freenode. Usually it's just editor wars or some shit.
L1758[21:36:28] <S3> emacs!
L1759[21:36:35] <Reika> Same error, "Could not read data"
L1760[21:36:36] * Temia ducttapes S3's mouth shut.
L1761[21:36:40] <Reika> and frozen
L1762[21:36:41] <S3> lol
L1763[21:36:42] <Temia> Geh. x_x
L1764[21:36:47] <S3> ...cat?
L1765[21:36:48] <Temia> Okay, logtime?
L1766[21:37:04] <Temia> There's something we're missing here for certain.
L1767[21:39:07] <Temia> ...wait wait wait a sec.
L1768[21:39:11] <Temia> Oh, no, nevermind
L1769[21:39:12] <Reika> ?
L1770[21:39:28] <Temia> I was looking at the mod list and didn't realise it was just a straight >dir for a moment
L1771[21:39:28] <S3> btw scj643
L1772[21:39:35] <Reika> that it was
L1773[21:39:35] <Temia> Fingers got ahead of my brain, no worries
L1774[21:39:40] <S3> is that like mate or cinnamon or something you got going on there?
L1775[21:39:45] <Reika> dir *.jar > mods.txt
L1776[21:39:46] <Temia> That's what I get for dual monitors >.>
L1777[21:39:48] <S3> I don't use DEs so
L1778[21:40:00] <S3> not sure exactly what it is, certainly can't be gtnome 2..
L1779[21:40:03] <S3> gnome*
L1780[21:40:20] <Reika> log is 11MB
L1781[21:40:26] <Temia> Gzip it?
L1782[21:40:29] <S3> yeah
L1783[21:40:31] <Reika> but post it where?
L1784[21:40:33] <Reika> mediafire?
L1785[21:40:41] <Reika> gist.github?
L1786[21:40:48] <Temia> Whatever works for you.
L1787[21:40:50] <Reika> actually that is probably bes
L1788[21:40:51] <S3> could throw it in a jpeg and upload it to imgur
L1789[21:40:52] <Reika> t
L1790[21:40:59] * Temia baps S3 :|
L1791[21:41:01] <S3> and then we'll pull it out with some perl golfing
L1792[21:41:03] * Reika makes front page :P
L1793[21:41:03] <S3> but...
L1794[21:41:03] <JohnC> can the redstone I/O component output different colors for enderio redstone conduits?
L1795[21:41:07] <S3> steganography!
L1796[21:41:14] <scj643> Seems like overkill for a calculator https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-Nspire#TI-Nspire_CX_and_TI-Nspire_CX_CAS
L1797[21:41:33] <S3> Temia: hiding files inside of mp3s used to be pretty popular
L1798[21:42:31] <Ivoah> scj643: No! The Nspire is awesome!
L1799[21:42:42] <Ivoah> it can run LINUX!
L1800[21:42:53] <mrammy> Really?
L1801[21:42:58] <Ivoah> yep
L1802[21:43:16] <Ivoah> http://hackaday.com/2014/11/18/running-debian-on-a-graphing-calculator/ and http://codinghobbit.no-ip.org/blog/?p=81
L1803[21:43:16] <S3> You should port templeos to it
L1804[21:43:34] <S3> templeos is a good fit for an nspire
L1805[21:43:36] <Reika> is not letting me copy it...
L1806[21:43:42] <Temia> Eh?
L1807[21:44:07] <Temia> Might be best to gzip it and push it somewhere from the server side then.
L1808[21:44:21] <S3> yeah gzip that sucker
L1809[21:44:23] <Temia> Or pull it with pscp.
L1810[21:44:23] <Reika> oh, got it
L1811[21:44:37] <Reika> Took three attempts and four text editors
L1812[21:44:47] <S3> Reika: you should set up an rsync server for stuff like that
L1813[21:44:50] <S3> rsync is great
L1814[21:44:57] <S3> and I'm not being trolly about that
L1815[21:45:00] <mrammy> rsync is great
L1816[21:45:28] <S3> but I still think Ivoah should install templeos
L1817[21:45:33] <scj643> Need to get a to 89 titanium for SATs
L1818[21:45:41] <S3> I have one
L1819[21:45:47] <S3> mine just ran out of batteries last week
L1820[21:45:47] <S3> lol
L1821[21:45:48] <Reika> I notice this: Caused by: li.cil.repack.com.naef.jnlua.LuaRuntimeException: Invalid kernel.
L1822[21:45:56] <S3> gotta buy some new batteries
L1823[21:46:08] <Reika> Lots of it
L1824[21:46:11] <Ivoah> scj643: If you're into programming graphing calculators, you should head over to #cemetech on EFnet or www.cemetech.net
L1825[21:46:15] <S3> you sure 89 titanium is allowed on sats scj643 ?
L1826[21:46:21] <S3> 89s are banned on a lot of tests
L1827[21:46:25] <Ivoah> S3: Yep it is
L1828[21:46:32] <Ivoah> They're banned because of the CAS
L1829[21:46:44] <S3> I use that
L1830[21:46:58] <S3> Ivoah: but banning a calculator doesn't solve the problem
L1831[21:47:20] <S3> instead of banning calculators, they should be asking questions that are too involved for a calculator to really show the full work for.
L1832[21:47:53] <S3> Ivoah: they banned 89s at my chem exams at uni here
L1833[21:48:00] <S3> but not for CAS
L1834[21:48:03] <S3> because you can program them
L1835[21:48:13] <Ivoah> so did they ban all TI graphing calcs?
L1836[21:48:14] <scj643> I would fail high school if I don't have CAS
L1837[21:48:17] <S3> which is stupid because any ol simple scientific calculator can store variables..
L1838[21:48:25] <scj643> They have push to test mode
L1839[21:48:30] <scj643> Problem solved
L1840[21:48:32] <S3> yeah they said it has to be a scientific calculator that can't store stuff
L1841[21:48:35] <S3> well.. they all can.
L1842[21:48:38] <scj643> No way to get out of that
L1843[21:48:59] <Ivoah> S3: templeos wouldn't work on the Nspire, it's all x64
L1844[21:49:06] <S3> :)
L1845[21:49:14] <S3> oh wel
L1846[21:49:23] <S3> I do not like the color ti calcs
L1847[21:49:24] <scj643> Unless you have a computer you can't get out of push to test mode
L1848[21:49:29] <Ivoah> and the Nspire is ARM
L1849[21:49:30] <S3> the 89 titanium is amazing
L1850[21:49:38] <Ivoah> Nspire CX CAS > *
L1851[21:49:40] <S3> wouldn't trade it for anything
L1852[21:49:46] <scj643> I want one
L1853[21:49:51] <Ivoah> I have one :P
L1854[21:50:01] <scj643> I got the TI nspire CAS app on my iPad
L1855[21:50:03] <S3> but Ivoah...
L1856[21:50:38] <S3> how much fun do you have calculating integrals of matrice sets in nth dimensional space
L1857[21:50:39] <scj643> TI 83+ has the most programs
L1858[21:50:42] <S3> on an nspire
L1859[21:50:52] <Ivoah> Here's a picture of all my calculators: http://i.imgur.com/qbPsbHA.jpg
L1860[21:51:03] <scj643> We program it and hide it in the my lib folder
L1861[21:51:15] <S3> there is one thing that ti calculators are superiorly limited with
L1862[21:51:22] <S3> and just almost any calculatort
L1863[21:51:32] <Ivoah> S3: How much fun do you have running linux on your TI-89, OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T!
L1864[21:51:43] <ds84182> relevant xkcd? http://xkcd.com/5/
L1865[21:51:48] <ds84182> It has numbers.
L1866[21:52:07] <scj643> Damn Ivoah
L1867[21:52:13] <S3> you see, ti calculators and most graphing calculators in general graph by calculating step values for X and testing them forward
L1868[21:52:25] <scj643> So....
L1869[21:52:39] <Ivoah> That's nothing compared to this: http://brandonw.net/calcstuff/calculators.jpg
L1870[21:52:41] <S3> HOWEVER, it is much more efficient to use the resolution of the screen and perform a scan with boundry tests
L1871[21:52:50] <scj643> Mathematica wouldn't be allowed on any test
L1872[21:52:52] <S3> as this allows you to write equations in opposite order, etc
L1873[21:53:10] <Ivoah> more relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/768/
L1874[21:54:04] <scj643> I'd take the blue face plate 84+ Se and an 89 titanium
L1875[21:55:10] <scj643> Ivoah: lol
L1876[21:55:18] <S3> ok bed time
L1877[21:55:24] <scj643> Goodnight
L1878[21:55:25] <S3> I got classes tomorrow
L1879[21:55:33] <scj643> Good luck
L1880[21:55:40] <ds84182> Attempting to test relevant xkcd finder is hard :(
L1881[21:56:14] <scj643> TI calculators are hard
L1882[21:56:20] <scj643> Physically
L1883[21:56:32] <ds84182> Emotionally
L1884[21:59:26] <scj643> So many app updates
L1885[22:01:48] <scj643> I blame iOS 9
L1886[22:02:53] <ds84182> Relevant XKCD
L1887[22:02:54] <ds84182> http://www.xkcd.com/1197/
L1888[22:02:54] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: All Adobe Updates Posted on: 4/10/2013
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L1892[22:17:23] <Temia> Mrf.
L1893[22:18:36] <Temia> I'm going over the log Reika sent me but I'm having trouble finding anything that should actually be causing a lockup. The systems are all reporting invalid kernels, but I'd figure that'd just shut the computer down until the processor could be pulled and reset.
L1894[22:19:24] <Temia> Well, wait, no.
L1895[22:19:37] <Temia> I was thinking of architectures. The error's occuring within the Lua environment.
L1896[22:19:55] <Temia> But there is literally no case of an invalid kernel error in the past that I can find.
L1897[22:20:08] <Temia> With no precedent, I have no idea how to begin figuring this one out.
L1898[22:24:37] <Temia> "// This shouldn't really happen, but there's a chance it does if the save was corrupt (maybe someone modified the Lua files)." ._. Wiping the state files alone shouldn't do this, should it?
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L1900[22:35:43] <Temia> I don't get it. Even going back on the prior information, the server should've been able to finish loading after a single bad permanent value exception.
L1901[22:36:06] <Temia> Before persistence was disabled and states were set aside.
L1902[22:36:32] <Temia> On the other hand, congratulations on getting the first documented Invalid Kernel exception, Reika.
L1903[22:37:30] <Temia> Partly my fault, granted :3c But weird that it's happening at all.
L1904[22:40:28] <Reika> Any idea as to a cause?
L1905[22:43:14] <Temia> No, I am thoroughly bamboozled at this juncture. The only idea I have at this point for finding the cause would be to hook a debugger to the server.
L1906[22:43:34] <Temia> But of course it'd be all you at that point.
L1907[22:43:59] <Temia> ...though, admittedly, seeing as how OC's in Scala, a debugger might not work so well... argh
L1908[22:54:20] <Reika> Um...I have a really serious problem
L1909[22:54:51] <Reika> Even with the old version of OC, I am getting the "could not read data" issue
L1910[22:54:56] <Reika> that prevents the server from loading
L1911[22:55:16] <Temia> Did you rename the state directory back?
L1912[22:55:18] <Reika> yes
L1913[22:55:34] <Temia> Okay, now I'm concerned.
L1914[22:55:53] <Reika> As am I
L1915[22:57:01] <Reika> Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/349/
L1916[22:57:12] <Temia> Lemme guess, the BSD one
L1917[22:57:16] <Reika> See
L1918[22:57:19] <Reika> You know :P
L1919[22:57:44] <Temia> Yeah. @.@
L1920[22:57:51] <Reika> So...what can I do
L1921[22:57:55] <Reika> Since I am not willing to purge the world
L1922[22:57:56] <Temia> If only the major devs were online at this point...
L1923[22:58:04] <Reika> and not willing to lose all the OC
L1924[22:58:10] <Reika> programs, blocks, recipes, and ite,s
L1925[22:58:59] <Reika> Now, I /did/ make a backup last night
L1926[22:59:07] <Temia> Well, one crazy and desperate idea I have is to back up the other opencomputers directories (that is, the contents of their drives) and then cycle the mod out and back in.
L1927[22:59:09] <Reika> but I do not want to revert unless I absolutely *have* to
L1928[22:59:19] <Reika> That will lose all the items, blocks, and recipes
L1929[22:59:22] <Temia> But that would require readding the blocks and whathaveyou, and then matching disk to system.
L1930[22:59:25] * Temia nods.
L1931[22:59:35] <Reika> I spent something like 90 minutes programming my ME system for OC parts
L1932[22:59:45] <Reika> plus I have some 4K parts
L1933[23:00:01] <Temia> Yeah, I can see why you'd be uncomfortable about that idea.
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L1936[23:05:56] <Reika> Oh...server is up
L1937[23:06:04] <Temia> ...Oh.
L1938[23:06:10] <Reika> a few restarts did it
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L1940[23:06:22] <Temia> I wonder if a few restarts would do it for 1.5 too.
L1941[23:06:29] <Temia> ...probably best to back it up first though.
L1942[23:06:48] <Reika> I tried several restarts for 1.5
L1943[23:06:55] <Reika> All my computers are toast...
L1944[23:07:00] <Temia> Ah crap.
L1945[23:07:54] * Reika frantically runs around repairing and rebooting control systems before two reactors blow
L1946[23:08:33] <Reika> ...three
L1947[23:08:41] <Temia> This is why I usually try to at least have a redstone-powered backup system where possible, I admit ._.
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L1949[23:11:23] <Temia> Even if it would be just "Is there a signal coming from the computer? No? Eat the main controller to force the control rods down."
L1950[23:11:37] <Temia> Or something similarly barbarixc.
L1951[23:11:40] <Temia> *barbaric
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L1954[23:18:23] <Reika> Now that everything is calm again...my draw code is not working
L1955[23:18:47] <Reika> http://i.imgur.com/EE3OeU2.png
L1956[23:19:32] <Reika> nothing renders except some text
L1957[23:19:37] <Reika> the text I told it to print
L1958[23:20:02] <gamax92> what about those uuid's at the top
L1959[23:20:06] <Reika> addresses
L1960[23:20:20] <Temia> Checked to make sure they remained the same after the episode?
L1961[23:20:25] <gamax92> yes I know what they ar, ^
L1962[23:20:26] <Reika> oh
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L1964[23:20:48] <Reika> Other computers seem to have kept the addresses
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L1966[23:20:56] <Reika> because my magnetostatic control system is working
L1967[23:21:05] <Ivoah> Someone should make a TIS-100 emulator for OC
L1968[23:21:15] <scj643> Hell ya
L1969[23:21:34] <scj643> https://i.imgur.com/2s2axdK.jpg
L1970[23:22:11] * gamax92 burns that image and scj643
L1971[23:22:21] <scj643> Lol
L1972[23:25:40] <Reika> OK, I have confirmed even a single call to fill is failing'
L1973[23:25:49] <Reika> though I /have/ succeeded in making my text jet fuel colored :P
L1974[23:27:19] <Temia> I can't get my brain to calm down and think about simpler data structures. x.x Shit. Imma go sit in bed and fuck around with D from my laptop.
L1975[23:27:45] <Reika> ....D?
L1976[23:28:07] <Temia> Yes. It's an interesting object-oriented, multi-paradigm language.
L1977[23:28:10] <Izaya> I literally refuse to even
L1978[23:28:15] <Temia> :T
L1979[23:28:34] <Temia> ...oh god that does sound wrong when I think about it.
L1980[23:28:35] <Izaya> Got a C for my bullshit 3 pages of crap reflection
L1981[23:28:51] * Temia lowers her head and skitters away .///.
L1982[23:28:57] <Reika> OH
L1983[23:29:00] <Reika> I feel like an idiot
L1984[23:33:17] <Reika> How do I round in lua...bearing in mind I am on 1.4.9
L1985[23:34:08] <Reika> I mean, I /could/ use an if >= 0.5
L1986[23:34:12] <Reika> but that is kludgy
L1987[23:36:02] <Temia> ~w round
L1988[23:36:03] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:drone
L1989[23:36:07] <Temia> No no no D:
L1990[23:36:10] <Temia> ~w math
L1991[23:36:10] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-math
L1992[23:36:38] <Temia> Hmm. There really is no round function.
L1993[23:36:51] <Temia> Well, could always do floor(n + 0.5)
L1994[23:37:12] <scj643> That works
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L1996[23:43:31] <Reika> got it
L1997[23:43:33] <Reika> and my program works :D
L1998[23:43:54] <Temia> \o/
L1999[23:44:29] <Reika> http://i.imgur.com/xa3CCD8.png
L2000[23:46:38] <Izaya> Temia: I thought of the programming language, though how much of a human I am is questionable
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L2002[23:48:35] <Temia> Yeah, sorry Izaya, but with a name like that, you're, like, half-troll
L2003[23:48:50] <Izaya> :3
L2004[23:48:54] <Reika> question two...how do I overlay text on the fill bar, knowing it too is text
L2005[23:49:12] <Izaya> background colours
L2006[23:49:22] <Reika> the fill bars are the background colors
L2007[23:49:41] <Izaya> Put text on in a different colour
L2008[23:49:43] <Reika> I am using gpu.fill
L2009[23:49:56] <Reika> I do not want the whole rectangle full of "100%"
L2010[23:50:27] <Izaya> gpu.set in the middle
L2011[23:50:35] <Izaya> or offset or something
L2012[23:50:35] <Reika> Also, fill takes one char
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L2014[23:54:25] <Reika> fill with string of size > 1 does nothing
L2015[23:54:37] <Reika> like literally renders nothing
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