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L43[05:28:01] <meep> And here we go again. More waiting.
L44[05:29:32] <Temia> https://vine.co/v/ODMbDlKK1bB Watch a sparrow being pet while you're waiting.
L45[05:30:12] * meep moos at Temia
L46[05:30:20] * Temia moos back. .o.
L47[05:30:27] <meep> :3
L48[05:30:37] <meep> Hai :3
L49[05:31:32] <Temia> Hihi.
L50[05:31:50] * Temia curls up on. sleepymoomoo.
L51[05:32:00] * meep petpets
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L53[05:38:16] <meep> I need something that tells me if i arrive at a place if i use that train
L54[05:38:18] <meep> :/
L55[05:39:07] <DeanIsaKitty> A Map?
L56[05:39:07] <Izaya> I met someone that uses hotmail today
L57[05:39:33] <meep> DeanIsaKitty: Oh really? .-.
L58[05:39:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah really
L59[05:39:50] <meep> q_q
L60[05:40:00] <meep> Forget it.
L61[05:40:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Also *most* public transport companies have a app nowadays
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L63[05:42:15] <meep> Aaanyhow. hai DeanIsaKitty
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L65[05:42:32] <DeanIsaKitty> hai :)
L66[05:43:16] <meep> sup?
L67[05:44:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Not much
L68[05:44:32] <DeanIsaKitty> How bout you?
L69[05:45:14] <meep> Just taking the trains to work and listening to music so I don't get terribly bored.
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L71[05:51:31] <meep> Almost at the station. Just a few minutes walking then and I'm there. Yay.
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L76[06:11:50] <vifino> Aye, at work.
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L78[06:40:07] <vifino> So apparently there are plans to buy usrp's for "work".
L79[06:40:27] <Izaya> usrp?
L80[06:40:27] <vifino> totallynotmycousinandmyidea.png
L81[06:40:46] <vifino> Izaya: A very good brand of software defined radios.
L82[06:40:59] <Izaya> oic
L83[06:41:01] <Izaya> sounds fun
L84[06:41:07] <vifino> Fun indeed.
L85[06:41:43] <vifino> Izaya: http://www.ettus.com/product/details/UB200-KIT <- the one we are looking at
L86[06:42:02] <Izaya> o.o
L87[06:42:07] <Izaya> That's >$1k
L88[06:42:09] <vifino> 70mhz to 6ghz transmission and recieve range :3
L89[06:42:18] <Izaya> 70Mhz to 6Ghz?
L90[06:42:18] <vifino> Izaya: ... thats the small model.
L91[06:42:19] <Izaya> Fuck.
L92[06:42:31] <Izaya> Holy fuck.
L93[06:42:37] <vifino> Izaya: http://www.ettus.com/product/details/UB210-KIT
L94[06:42:44] <Izaya> My Haruhi this is - what would these be used for anyway?
L95[06:42:53] <vifino> Fun stuff(tm).
L96[06:43:01] <Izaya> That one is >$1700
L97[06:43:50] <vifino> Things like, gsm interception, police transmissions, satelite pictures, etc..
L98[06:44:02] <vifino> Fun stuff(tm).
L99[06:44:27] * Izaya looks at his $30 Arduino radio kit on his desk
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L101[06:44:41] <Izaya> It can do 9600 baud if there is minimal RF interferance!
L102[06:44:55] <vifino> I'm probably gonna set up my own gsm basestation thanks to it. All over asterisk. :3
L103[06:45:30] <vifino> huehuehue calling with other peoples credit huehuehue
L104[06:45:34] <vifino> imeanwhat
L105[06:45:45] <Izaya> carding seems boring
L106[06:46:11] <vifino> Izaya: The basestation is something we can do without getting into much trouble.
L107[06:46:21] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/hUY2u2m.png
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L110[06:47:47] <Izaya> 38 seconds
L111[06:50:28] <vifino> Whatcha up to, Izaya?
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L113[06:51:24] <Izaya> Writing an email.
L114[06:51:52] <vifino> Alrighty.
L115[06:52:54] <Izaya> I want an email client I can work on myself, maybe in a scripting language of some sort
L116[06:53:14] <DeanIsaKitty> Is it bad that I find the fact that people are ready to hand over 700 bucks for such an useless thing hilarious?
L117[06:53:58] <Izaya> What useless thing?
L118[06:54:04] <Izaya> I see people pay for Windows quite a bit.
L119[06:54:23] <DeanIsaKitty> That too, but I'm talking about the SDR vifino posted
L120[06:55:46] <vifino> Well, it may be useless for you, DeanIsaKitty.
L121[06:56:06] <DeanIsaKitty> But?
L122[06:56:37] <vifino> Doesn't mean it's useless to everyone.
L123[06:57:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Yes. But I find the 700€ fact the most hilarious.
L124[06:59:27] <vifino> I'm not sure how you can find a price tag hilarious, but to each his own, I guess.
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L128[07:12:58] <vifino> I wish there would be a working coroutine scheduler for LuaJIT.
L129[07:27:56] <Kubuxu> Just upgraded arch, I hope everything will work after reboot.
L130[07:29:45] <dangranos> uh?
L131[07:29:54] <dangranos> why?
L132[07:31:55] <Kubuxu> dangranos: arch is rolling release, you should upgrade it as frequent as possible to isolate possible failure.
L133[07:32:18] <dangranos> i know that ._.
L134[07:32:54] <Kubuxu> With upgrades like systemd, lxc and glibc you never know.
L135[07:33:15] <vifino> lol
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L137[07:35:39] <dangranos> or kernel..
L138[07:38:10] <Vexatos> yea, when your package manager sais there is an update for "linux" or "linux-firmware"....
L139[07:38:35] <Vexatos> I updated my graphics driver once
L140[07:38:51] <Vexatos> it malformed a symlink, making the graphics driver never get loaded
L141[07:39:05] <Vexatos> Me, being total Linux noob, spent a week trying to find out what happened >_>
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L146[07:52:48] <Izaya> But there's an update for linux every week or less?
L147[07:55:52] <S3> Nxsupert: you around?
L148[07:56:48] <S3> Gamax: found a much better way to handle things like mbr , etc
L149[07:58:49] <S3> SOPT 0.0.0 (not pre alpha) introduces sub partitions and a partition type that contains just lua code
L150[08:00:15] <S3> With this an OS could set up two subpartitions, one for a boot loader stub and the other for its data
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L153[08:02:09] <S3> The eeprom checks the table for a partition with a bootable flag and if it supports the underlying filesystem type and contents, it boots
L154[08:02:18] <S3> What do you think?
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L157[08:04:10] <vifino> S3: I'll be setting up a FreeBSD server, I at least want to try it in a more serious environment.
L158[08:04:19] <vifino> 11-CURRENT, because I don't like outdated shizniz.
L159[08:04:36] <S3> I thought you had enough of my FreeBSD elitism: P
L160[08:04:45] <vifino> I do.
L161[08:04:53] <vifino> But I don't have enough of FreeBSD.
L162[08:05:13] <S3> Release is updated
L163[08:05:31] <S3> Stable is .. A different story
L164[08:05:36] <S3> :)
L165[08:06:12] <S3> But upgrading FreeBSD versions is very easy :)
L166[08:06:43] <vifino> S3: Yeah, yeah. Reinstalling.
L167[08:07:32] <vifino> I'll be using 11-CURRENT because it's stable enough(tm).
L168[08:08:34] <vifino> I love that the current connection here in the office is maxing many things.
L169[08:08:41] <vifino> But we ain't got gbit yet.
L170[08:09:12] <S3> Heh
L171[08:09:44] <S3> So vifino. What do you think of my current project with unmanaged disks
L172[08:09:46] <vifino> S3: One of the few things I'm after is linux 64bit emulation.
L173[08:09:59] <vifino> Uh, it's cool, I guess.
L174[08:10:17] <S3> And FreeBSD didn't already have 64 but emu?
L175[08:10:48] <S3> Bit
L176[08:11:08] <vifino> Not linux 64 bit emu in stable.
L177[08:11:13] <vifino> Only 11-CURRENT:
L178[08:11:20] <vifino> *11-CURRENT.
L179[08:11:20] <S3> Ic
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L184[08:13:17] <vifino> only 1.8MB/s down from freebsd ftp .-.
L185[08:14:51] <S3> Wrong ftp server
L186[08:15:04] <S3> I forget which ones are the super fast ones
L187[08:15:55] <S3> I know for Slackware the tds.net mirrors give me > 100 MB/s on gbit
L188[08:16:14] <S3> Downloaded the DVD in 34 secs
L189[08:16:22] <Izaya> ...
L190[08:16:34] * Izaya silently weeps
L191[08:16:38] <S3> Lol
L192[08:16:51] <S3> So izaya
L193[08:17:14] <S3> At my university we have so much bandwidth
L194[08:17:18] <Izaya> Though for once I can honestly say that lack of bandwidth is my biggest problem
L195[08:17:34] <S3> We semi are responsible for the state fiber backbone
L196[08:17:43] <Izaya> o.O
L197[08:18:00] <S3> We have over 10,000 people on cpus every day
L198[08:18:17] <S3> And everyone gets gbit up and down on hardwired
L199[08:18:25] <Izaya> o.o
L200[08:18:28] * vifino silently continues uploading freebsd 11-CURRENT iso to an ftp
L201[08:18:41] <S3> And on wireless everyone gets 40 - 50 up an down
L202[08:19:02] * Izaya quietly weeps
L203[08:19:05] <S3> We also have a full mesh
L204[08:19:20] <S3> And switches go down all the time
L205[08:19:25] <S3> And it's never a problem
L206[08:19:52] <S3> Everyone is on at least two switches and all of those are meshed across campus
L207[08:20:16] <S3> But you know what the deal breaker is?
L208[08:20:39] <S3> We have an entire /16 of global up addresses
L209[08:20:56] <S3> And everyone gets a hostname and a globally reputable ip
L210[08:21:01] <S3> Routable*
L211[08:21:18] <S3> They also encourage running servers
L212[08:21:22] * vifino stabs S3
L213[08:21:29] <S3> What
L214[08:22:41] <S3> In fact that's what I'm doing at the university right now. Grading old servers and setting up a Xen virtualization farm
L215[08:22:56] <S3> S/grading/trashing
L216[08:23:04] <vifino> .-.
L217[08:23:11] <vifino> y u do dis
L218[08:23:16] <S3> ?
L219[08:25:10] <S3> Well for years they've hired inexperienced students
L220[08:25:21] <S3> The servers were a mess
L221[08:25:47] <S3> I have seen worse however
L222[08:27:26] <S3> What pisses me off vifino is that they have an ipv6 setup and won't enable it
L223[08:27:43] <S3> They said it's because of address conflicts.......................
L224[08:28:01] <S3> That's what icmpv6 is for....
L225[08:28:21] <S3> Sigh
L226[08:28:33] <vifino> To quote a friend of mine: "Less talk, more fix!"
L227[08:28:45] <S3> Lol
L228[08:29:55] <S3> All they need is a /48 and they can have up to 65536 departments with a /64
L229[08:29:55] <S3> If they want to isolate then
L230[08:29:55] <S3> Otherwise a /64 is fine for all campuses
L231[08:30:54] <S3> Have you ever messed with /48 + ospf vifino?
L232[08:31:00] <S3> It's amazing
L233[08:32:52] <vifino> I have messed with /48's, yes.
L234[08:32:57] <vifino> ospf, no.
L235[08:33:03] <vifino> At least not that i know of.
L236[08:43:26] <S3> Damn.
L237[08:43:31] <S3> I got disconnected
L238[08:44:18] <vifino> dizknnektit
L239[08:44:19] <S3> I was trying to say that you and your buddies can quicker make data networks with ocbsd between servers
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L242[08:53:29] <S3> OK
L243[08:53:50] <S3> I could have sworn the internet card let's you open listening sockets
L244[08:54:10] <S3> If not I can create a passive service but
L245[08:55:26] <S3> I can make a perl script that acts as an ATM switch
L246[08:55:37] <S3> Which you can connect to
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L248[09:06:50] <S3> Damn it sangar
L249[09:07:08] <S3> I have to implement rsa with lua
L250[09:07:17] <S3> Data card no has rsa
L251[09:08:02] <S3> And there is also no aes 256 :(
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L253[09:13:24] <S3> Looks like there are some lua croton libs on Gothic I can use for now
L254[09:13:30] <S3> Crypto
L255[09:23:08] <S3> Yeah... Can't find any true pure lua rsa libs
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L257[09:30:21] <S3> Well either way. I'd like to see rsa on the data card and aes
L258[09:30:50] <S3> It would be useful for authentication and block encryption
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L260[09:54:39] <vifino> S3: Do you have some nice tipps on how to improve performance of a FreeBSD box?
L261[09:55:14] <vifino> It's not like it's slow, but faster is always better.
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L265[10:27:28] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: http://files.luaforge.net/releases/sha1-rsa/sha1-rsa/Version1.0 <- pure lua, but I don't know if it runs on OC (look in Test.lua for RSA)
L266[10:27:31] <sugoi> S3: pretty sure Magik6k has rsa
L267[10:29:28] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Also, this lib does AES with 256 bit keys http://files.luaforge.net/releases/aeslua/aeslua/0.2
L268[10:30:17] <Temia> >73KB zipped
L269[10:30:26] <Temia> Er, 75 even
L270[10:30:29] <Temia> That's concerning.
L271[10:30:56] <DeanIsaKitty> it has a bitlib.so and a lot of test in there too
L272[10:31:33] <Temia> Oh, half of them are tests.
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L274[10:31:43] <Temia> Yeah, that's not a big deal by comparison
L275[10:32:42] <DeanIsaKitty> And you can small it down even further by removing the 128 and 192 key expansion routines and running all the sources trough a minifier
L276[10:33:44] <Magik6k> rsa is meh
L277[10:34:07] <Magik6k> use datacard ECDH for key exchange + ase with IV
L278[10:34:11] <Magik6k> faster
L279[10:34:20] <Temia> Datacard isn't always going to be available.
L280[10:34:31] <Magik6k> and provides paranoid-grade safety
L281[10:34:37] <Temia> Basic access to crypto should be available to all devices.
L282[10:34:45] <Magik6k> hmm
L283[10:34:55] <Magik6k> What's the usecase?
L284[10:35:56] <Temia> Remote access from a low-grade system to a more powerful and well-equipped server
L285[10:36:21] <Magik6k> like a tablet ssh to server?
L286[10:36:31] <Temia> Tablet is one such case.
L287[10:36:45] <Temia> T2 computers are too.
L288[10:36:53] <Magik6k> hmm
L289[10:36:55] <Temia> And T1, naturally
L290[10:37:27] <Magik6k> I'd have a go at RSA for key exchange and AES for rest of stuff
L291[10:37:29] <Magik6k> but
L292[10:37:41] <Magik6k> Every time I did it in pure lua
L293[10:37:58] <Magik6k> it was way beyond usable speed
L294[10:38:05] <Magik6k> (i.e. way slower)
L295[10:38:28] <Temia> Yeah, speed is not on our side, so while one-off pubkey authentication might be doable, a more primitive encryption would be needed for sessions
L296[10:39:13] <Temia> On the plus side, the odds of interception are much, MUCH smaller.
L297[10:39:50] <DeanIsaKitty> Why more primitive? Why not just faster?
L298[10:40:12] <Temia> Well, usually the two go hand in hand.
L299[10:40:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Don't get me wrong, but ECC is magnitudes faster than RSA
L300[10:40:22] <DeanIsaKitty> And much more secure
L301[10:41:01] <DeanIsaKitty> i.e. implement Curve25519 in pure lua and you can have a go at ecdh in pure lua
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L303[10:41:23] <Temia> Yeah, that's the tricky part.
L304[10:41:33] <DeanIsaKitty> And be as secure as 3072 RSA
L305[10:41:53] <Temia> I'm not actually a cryptography expert, I just understand its importance.
L306[10:42:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Curve25519 is not *that* hard to implement. There are plenty of pure implementations in JS, PHP, Python, Perl etc
L307[10:42:22] <DeanIsaKitty> As long as you don't use it anywhere near actual secret data you'll be fine
L308[10:42:45] <Temia> ICBM control codes :v
L309[10:42:53] * Vexatos throws an Advanced Cipher Block at Magik6k :3
L310[10:43:21] * Vexatos throws an Advanced Cipher Block at S3 too
L311[10:43:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: Of those four, what one are you the most prolific with?
L312[10:43:34] <Temia> Python.
L313[10:43:44] <vifino> uh, oh. I think I fail at pf. Either that, or it is intended to drop to kdb on connection.
L314[10:43:45] <Temia> Moreso than Lua honestly.
L315[10:43:45] <DeanIsaKitty> :D
L316[10:43:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Have fun https://github.com/warner/python-pure25519
L317[10:43:59] <Temia> Hey now D:
L318[10:44:06] <Temia> I've got my own projects to worry aboooout
L319[10:45:18] <vifino> ... okay, something is broken.
L320[10:45:34] <vifino> S3: I blame you.
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L322[10:46:10] <vifino> incomming connection -> kdb! \o/
L323[10:52:18] <S3> Magic6k reason I was wondering is if the internet card can not listen for connections on a port then I will need to make a perl script or so to act as a tunnel. I figured I could use rsa for auth and aes for encryption
L324[10:52:55] <S3> This way you don't need to worry so much about people hijacking your proxy
L325[10:53:42] <S3> It would operate as an ATM switch:)
L326[10:55:12] <Temia> The internet card can't listen on TCP because it's tricky to do safely and securely.
L327[10:55:28] <Temia> I believe that was it, anyway.
L328[10:55:30] <S3> I figured
L329[10:55:41] <S3> Well this is not a huge problem
L330[10:56:11] <S3> I am willing to run an ATM backbone on My servers 9600-baud.net
L331[10:56:43] <S3> So people can make a network between servers
L332[10:56:47] <Temia> Interesting o:
L333[10:57:01] <Temia> That is actually quite exciting. :3
L334[10:57:05] <S3> Is TCP clients enabled by default?
L335[10:57:29] <S3> I would rather do udp if we can
L336[10:57:43] <Temia> I believe UDP is simply unimplemented.
L337[10:58:02] <S3> It's not a huge deal it's just that it'll be slower
L338[10:58:23] <S3> But on the good side you don't need acks for your Minecraft
L339[10:58:39] <S3> Since TCP will do it for u
L340[10:58:42] <S3> You*
L341[10:58:51] <Temia> As for TCP, I believe it's enabled by default.
L342[10:58:56] <S3> Cool
L343[10:59:15] <Temia> If not, can always get players to bug server owners to enable it.
L344[11:00:22] <S3> Yeah connecting to my backbone will be as simple as simple as asking me to add you to the configuration, then I give you a number called a VPI and a number called a VCI
L345[11:00:47] <S3> You just enter those in and wham.. You are connected
L346[11:01:17] <Temia> Nice.
L347[11:01:39] <Temia> And the system connecting can act as a bridge for other computers on its network?
L348[11:01:55] <S3> Of course only ocbsd will support it at first but making component proxies could be possible
L349[11:02:03] <S3> Yes
L350[11:02:05] * Temia nods
L351[11:02:14] <Temia> Awesome.
L352[11:02:20] * CompanionCube knows only BT's VPI/VCI
L353[11:02:33] <Temia> I look forward to starting inter-server BBSes or something
L354[11:02:38] <S3> Oc BSD will support mc network protocols like lyqydnet etc
L355[11:02:49] <Temia> Heh, nice.
L356[11:02:59] <S3> So you can just route between them
L357[11:03:14] <S3> Yeah that would be cool
L358[11:03:33] <S3> ATM also gives you another benefit
L359[11:03:44] <Temia> Oh?
L360[11:03:45] <CompanionCube> S3, does it uses an AALs?
L361[11:03:50] <S3> ATM will allow you to limit the bandwidth they use.
L362[11:04:00] <Temia> Nice.
L363[11:04:13] <S3> Every cell is 53 bytes and you can limit the max cells per second
L364[11:04:27] <CompanionCube> S3, would you support AAL5?
L365[11:04:34] <S3> I plan to implement AAL 5
L366[11:04:39] <S3> Yrs
L367[11:04:42] <S3> Yes*
L368[11:05:06] <S3> Keep in mind that the addresses are 24 bytes not 20
L369[11:05:28] <S3> This is because I decided to use uuids for Mac addresses unless we decide it's a bad idea
L370[11:05:29] * Vexatos continues advertising the totally useless Advanced Cipher Block
L371[11:05:30] <CompanionCube> inb4 PPPoA
L372[11:05:40] <S3> The uuid fr network card
L373[11:06:26] <S3> It will also be useful for your interest mc city backbone
L374[11:06:33] <S3> Inter*
L375[11:06:53] <S3> I need suggestions though
L376[11:07:07] <S3> Should we use phone numbers like ISDN?
L377[11:07:17] <S3> For switch routing
L378[11:07:37] <S3> Or country codes etc
L379[11:07:52] <S3> Or come up with our own switch addressing
L380[11:08:56] <S3> We get 13 bytes for the switch address
L381[11:09:14] <S3> Kinda
L382[11:09:48] <S3> ISDN uses 8 bytes which is 16 digits
L383[11:10:36] <Temia> Vex: Can you put it in a tablet? :P
L384[11:11:38] <Vexatos> Temia, you can put a wireless network card into a tablet
L385[11:11:41] <Vexatos> :3
L386[11:11:45] <Vexatos> Or a linked card
L387[11:11:45] <Vexatos> :3
L388[11:12:24] <Temia> :X
L389[11:12:29] * Temia noogies
L390[11:13:01] <Temia> What good is security when you have to contact it unsecured!?
L391[11:13:06] <S3> I think phone numbers are fine long as I made an app where you can request numbers?
L392[11:13:46] <S3> 16 digits is a lot
L393[11:15:21] <vifino> Gonna go home. See ya people.
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L395[11:37:49] * Lizzy pouts
L396[11:37:53] * Lizzy misses vifino
L397[11:47:48] <cloakable> Aw
L398[11:48:02] * cloakable offers Lizzy tea, maybe fennec hugs
L399[11:48:24] * Lizzy takes tea and sips
L400[11:49:20] <cloakable> :D
L401[11:49:27] * cloakable has PG Tips
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L406[12:12:24] <Sangar> o/
L407[12:13:12] * Skye hugs Sangar
L408[12:13:41] <cloakable> o/
L409[12:22:58] * vifino returns and runs to Lizzy, hugging her tightly
L410[12:23:10] * Lizzy squees
L411[12:23:17] * Lizzy hugs back
L412[12:23:29] <Ivoah> it seems like half of this room is just /me
L413[12:23:43] <Lizzy> yep[
L414[12:23:45] <cloakable> That's what the /me command is for!
L415[12:23:47] <Ivoah> s/of this room/of the chat in this room/
L416[12:23:47] <Kibibyte> <Ivoah> it seems like half of the chat in this room is just /me
L417[12:24:04] <cloakable> haha
L418[12:25:02] <Ivoah> I wonder what the ratio of OpenComputers discussion to random off topic talk is
L419[12:26:03] <Sangar> i remember the random /me hour
L420[12:27:24] <vifino> never forget.
L421[12:27:38] * Lizzy hugs vifino
L422[12:27:54] * vifino hugs Lizzy back
L423[12:28:52] <sugoi> #lua math.rand()
L424[12:28:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (field 'rand')
L425[12:28:59] <sugoi> #lua math.random()
L426[12:29:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.088605374097824
L427[12:29:06] * sugoi 0.088605374097824
L428[12:31:55] <gamax92> Hey Sangar
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L432[12:39:10] <gamax92> #lua whatami(math.pi)
L433[12:39:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3.141592653589793115997963468544185161590576171875
L434[12:39:20] <gamax92> #lua whatami(1)
L435[12:39:20] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.
L436[12:39:33] <gamax92> #lua whatami(1/3)
L437[12:39:33] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.333333333333333314829616256247390992939472198486328125
L438[12:46:00] <vifino> What is whatami, gamax92?
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L440[12:46:22] <gamax92> asking lua to provide as many digits as it can for somethign
L441[12:51:40] <vifino> S3: Is theresomething like binfmt_misc in freebsd? Like, registering some file to be eecuted with some binary?
L442[12:56:46] <S3> Vifino unsure. If there isn't then you could wrap it
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L444[12:57:26] <vifino> S3: I really like that feature :(
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L448[13:18:21] <ProbablyKodos> Woo, on a computer again
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L450[13:20:29] <ProbablyKodos> Did anyone see that issue about Transposers being MCU upgrades
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L453[13:25:00] <vifino> Some ebay seller sold me a motherboard for cheap, listed as "new original packaging". After I asked him where the extras where that were included in the missing box, he pretty much told me to shut the fuck up an deal with it, after all I got it cheap. Now I got an email from ebay telling me I didn't pay.. :|
L454[13:25:12] <vifino> Whaat a random coincidence!
L455[13:26:34] <ProbablyKodos> I would forward the emails from the seller to eBay
L456[13:26:59] <ProbablyKodos> And explain that you were misled in the product description, and while you did pay, would like a refund enforced for not receiving the full product
L457[13:27:44] <ProbablyKodos> And don't forget to link a screenshot of the emails in the negative feedback you should leave on the seller
L458[13:28:19] <vifino> Already did leave a negative feedback.
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L467[14:21:02] <S3> I have never had a problem with ebay
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L474[15:03:44] <jhagrid77> Hello everyone, sneaking on the chromebook I have for school XD shhh
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L480[15:23:18] <Sangar> \o/ stuff starts working
L481[15:24:19] <vifino> \o/ woot
L482[15:26:22] <ProbablyKodos> Any hints/spoilers yet?
L483[15:32:24] <ProbablyKodos> I wonder if this computer's clock being wrong is affecting how quickly/slowly I get IRC messages
L484[15:32:46] <Lizzy> no
L485[15:33:10] <gamax92> Set your clock to the future, and find out what Sangar is plotting
L486[15:33:38] <Lizzy> if the TCP/IP protocol was affected by time differences then the internet would be much less effecient
L487[15:38:51] <Sangar> hrm. spoiler... dunno how actually. how about this: you'll need the charger for something new :P
L488[15:39:05] <ProbablyKodos> ...
L489[15:39:22] <ProbablyKodos> Whhhhhhaaaaaattt issssss ittttt
L490[15:39:50] <sugoi> ProbablyKodos: a smart phone
L491[15:39:58] <Temia> Meanwhile I'm more excited about the electrical lamp I heard mentioned in Immersive Engineering's git repo.
L492[15:40:33] <Temia> Could it possibly be someone besides EIO invented a nice wide-area lighting implementation? :o
L493[15:40:40] <ProbablyKodos> I'm excited for IE's silos and tanks
L494[15:40:59] <sugoi> oh oh, tiny computers -
L495[15:41:04] <sugoi> like C.H.I.P or r pi?
L496[15:41:16] <ProbablyKodos> ArduinOpen
L497[15:41:20] <sugoi> and it's flat
L498[15:41:23] <sugoi> like a painting
L499[15:41:34] <Temia> That'd be neat.
L500[15:41:34] <sugoi> but smaller...
L501[15:41:47] <Temia> FMP-compatible miniature computers.
L502[15:42:06] <vifino> Sangar: pagers when
L503[15:42:39] <ProbablyKodos> You could turn a tablet into a pager
L504[15:42:46] <vifino> boring.
L505[15:42:51] <sugoi> seriously i just wnt to take a week off work
L506[15:42:54] <sugoi> and program with oc
L507[15:43:02] <vifino> Something that's always on screen would be much much better.
L508[15:43:16] <sugoi> Sangar: can i send you my resume and you replace my current employment?
L509[15:43:24] <sugoi> :)
L510[15:43:28] <Sangar> i wish :P
L511[15:43:31] <sugoi> i'll move to gmt+1
L512[15:43:35] <sugoi> i'd*
L513[15:44:02] <Sangar> oh, thanks for the reminder, i have to fix the hud part
L514[15:44:10] <ProbablyKodos> HUD?!
L515[15:44:13] <sugoi> haha
L516[15:44:28] <Sangar> (it's tiny, don't get too excited)
L517[15:44:32] <sugoi> shoulder robots!
L518[15:44:44] <Temia> :O
L519[15:44:45] <sugoi> google glass
L520[15:44:53] <Temia> OpenGlass!
L521[15:44:54] <Sangar> nah
L522[15:44:55] <ProbablyKodos> We already have shoulder robots
L523[15:44:57] <Temia> ...Wait a sec.
L524[15:45:04] <Temia> Oh, oh
L525[15:45:08] <Sangar> it's not something i'm aware of exists (in this way anyway)
L526[15:45:13] <Sangar> so no openglasses or similar :P
L527[15:45:14] <Temia> Accelerometer upgrades for tablets would be rad
L528[15:45:23] <ProbablyKodos> Pedometer
L529[15:45:23] <sugoi> Temia: interseting idea
L530[15:46:20] <Temia> That can fire a signal when a tablet's dropped as well as being able to provide motion vectors since the last call
L531[15:46:32] <vifino> Sangar: cellular networking when
L532[15:47:06] <Temia> Cellular networking could be plausibly done in software
L533[15:47:08] <sugoi> augments?!
L534[15:47:16] * sugoi is still guessing oc feature, btw
L535[15:47:25] <sugoi> augments, like...deus ex --
L536[15:47:30] <Temia> Remote control robots?
L537[15:47:34] <sugoi> and you can link into your neural net
L538[15:47:37] <Temia> Remote control DRONES?
L539[15:47:58] <ProbablyKodos> Remote control for drones with a camera upgrade, the HUD part is the drone's viewpoint
L540[15:48:01] <Sangar> sugoi, you're actually pretty close :P
L541[15:48:04] <vifino> Temia: I mean like, cell towers and stuff '.'
L542[15:48:05] <sugoi> woot!
L543[15:48:21] <ProbablyKodos> vifino: so BitNet?
L544[15:48:23] <vifino> Sangar: cyborg upgrades?!?!!?
L545[15:48:29] <vifino> ProbablyKodos: wat.
L546[15:48:36] <Temia> Again, could probably do it with high-powered wireless adapters
L547[15:48:52] <ProbablyKodos> Augments technically exist in Matter Overdrive, but you have to turn into an android first
L548[15:49:17] <sugoi> haha, what if you could automate yourself
L549[15:49:25] <sugoi> script a digging app
L550[15:49:28] <sugoi> bot yourself
L551[15:49:30] <Sangar> not quite. it's not modular at assembly time anyway, because i cba :X
L552[15:50:09] <Sangar> tho tbh i haven't really decided on how to craft it anyway... so who knows
L553[15:51:01] <vifino> Sangar: Smartwatch! :o?
L554[15:51:12] <ProbablyKodos> Sangar: Electronics Assembler, obv
L555[15:51:16] <ProbablyKodos> Or!
L556[15:51:16] <vifino> pebblock.
L557[15:51:21] <ProbablyKodos> Make it a 3D print thing
L558[15:51:25] <Temia> Electronics assembler plugged into an operating table
L559[15:51:41] <Sangar> possibly assembler, tho it's not a device in the... typical sense
L560[15:52:08] <vifino> GOD DANG IT SANGER I AM DIEING OF EXCITEMENT HERE D:
L561[15:52:09] <Sangar> fixed the hud \o/ http://imgur.com/KrJIU3h
L562[15:52:10] <Temia> It can only be set up and installed while you're on the table, thus requiring complicated automation or SMP :O
L563[15:52:36] <sugoi> ah, scanner?
L564[15:52:58] <ProbablyKodos> Speed 3?
L565[15:53:02] <Sangar> it's supposed to be a battery icon >_>
L566[15:53:11] <sugoi> oh
L567[15:53:16] <ProbablyKodos> Rip off IC2's battery sprite and recolor it
L568[15:53:19] <vifino> 10/10
L569[15:53:22] <Sangar> suppose it'll need tweaking :X
L570[15:53:23] <sugoi> i didnt see the bottom left
L571[15:53:28] <Temia> Steal a public-domain battery indicator
L572[15:53:32] <vifino> Sangar is the best artist in the world.
L573[15:53:34] * vifino hides
L574[15:53:43] <Sangar> ikr
L575[15:54:02] <sugoi> i hate tweaking aesthetics
L576[15:54:03] <Sangar> i wasn't quite sure where to place it... is there any other mod that renders stuff there?
L577[15:54:16] <sugoi> yeah
L578[15:54:18] <ProbablyKodos> Ars Magica 2 is the only one I can think of
L579[15:54:20] <vifino> probably
L580[15:54:23] <Sangar> i'll probably leave it as is for now. it becomes more obvious when it's not full
L581[15:54:28] <Temia> Ars Magica's UI is configurable though
L582[15:54:30] <sugoi> yep, was going to say AM
L583[15:54:40] <Sangar> guess i'll add a config then
L584[15:55:12] <sugoi> what about top right?
L585[15:55:16] <sugoi> who uses that?
L586[15:55:21] <Sangar> minimaps
L587[15:55:22] <ProbablyKodos> Minimaps
L588[15:55:24] <sugoi> oh duh
L589[15:55:27] <ProbablyKodos> Galacticraft too
L590[15:55:32] <Sangar> also people might think it'd be their laptop's power :X
L591[15:55:38] <mrammy> lmao
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L593[15:55:41] <sugoi> ha
L594[15:56:00] <ProbablyKodos> Hopefully whatever it is is testable by the 23rd
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L596[15:56:25] <Sangar> i'm hoping to have it stable enough to release it in .18 next weekend, we'll see
L597[15:56:31] <Temia> I kind of want to do a thing
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L599[15:56:56] <Temia> Where all clientside mods are disabled and your understanding of the world around you has to be provided in software
L600[15:56:58] <JohnC> is there a list, source code or otherwise, of mods/functionality with other mods through the adapter?
L601[15:57:18] <ProbablyKodos> JohnC: there's really too many to list
L602[15:57:25] <ProbablyKodos> Did you need to know about a particular mod?
L603[15:58:03] <JohnC> Extra Cells 2 / AE2 and RailCraft
L604[15:59:01] <ProbablyKodos> Not sure about EC2, AE2 a bit of stuff. With Railcraft, you should look into adding Computronics to your mods. It's an OC addon that adds quite a bit of functionality
L605[15:59:14] <Sangar> ec2 supports oc on it's side iirc
L606[15:59:23] <Sangar> -'
L607[16:00:22] <JohnC> ahh, I think we already have computronics :)
L608[16:00:44] <ProbablyKodos> My AE2 functions are a bit rusty
L609[16:00:54] <ProbablyKodos> I think I managed to request 10k chests to be made once
L610[16:01:01] <JohnC> TPPI2 is the first modpack I've played that has OpenComputers instead of "that other computer mod"
L611[16:01:07] <JohnC> and I'm liking it a lot :D
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L614[16:02:49] <JohnC> might supplant AE2 as my favorite mod :D
L615[16:03:11] <ProbablyKodos> The following is a personal opinion and is not necessarily the opinion of #oc or its staff
L616[16:03:25] <ProbablyKodos> Yes, ComputerCraft is shyt =D OC for life =D
L617[16:03:29] <Inari> lol
L618[16:03:30] <JohnC> lol
L619[16:04:04] <Inari> i like OC more, just feels free-er and less limited and such :P
L620[16:04:11] <JohnC> robots! tablets! servers! oh my
L621[16:04:23] <ProbablyKodos> Not to mention OC doesn't have a bug that didn't take 3 years to fix
L622[16:04:32] <Sangar> holograms! 3d prints! n- oh wait, spoilers
L623[16:04:41] <Temia> NANOMACHINES!?
L624[16:04:43] <ProbablyKodos> Neural Implants
L625[16:04:47] <Inari> n-?
L626[16:04:51] * Inari shakes Sangar
L627[16:04:52] <Inari> TELL ME
L628[16:05:06] <Inari> 3d prints are like black magic still
L629[16:05:08] <sugoi> cc doesn't have computers, just script injection
L630[16:05:30] <sugoi> btw, cba?
L631[16:05:45] <ProbablyKodos> can't be asked/bothered
L632[16:05:45] <JohnC> is there a function to print a full table instead of a truncated table (the = function/operator/whatever it is in lua)
L633[16:05:49] <sugoi> ah
L634[16:06:04] <ProbablyKodos> JohnC: I wrote a custom function to do so, it can be found in my lib
L635[16:06:06] <sugoi> JohnC: you can serialize to a string
L636[16:06:12] <ProbablyKodos> Or that
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L638[16:06:24] <sugoi> #lua =require('serialization')
L639[16:06:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '='
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L641[16:06:36] <sugoi> #lua require('serialization').serialize({1,2})
L642[16:06:37] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global 'require')
L643[16:06:43] <sugoi> #lua print(require('serialization').serialize({1,2}))
L644[16:06:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global 'require')
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L646[16:06:48] <sugoi> bah, you guys fix it
L647[16:06:49] <ProbablyKodos> sugoi: stahp
L648[16:06:50] <Sangar> i doubt deadbeef has oc libs :X
L649[16:06:55] <ProbablyKodos> ^
L650[16:07:02] <sugoi> well it should
L651[16:07:09] <Sangar> blame vifino
L652[16:07:18] <sugoi> i actually wrote a lua shell loader that gives me oc libs
L653[16:07:19] <vifino> whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
L654[16:07:24] <sugoi> i mean, simple --
L655[16:07:26] <sugoi> but it helps
L656[16:07:42] <vifino> I blame you instead, sugoi!
L657[16:07:43] * vifino hides
L658[16:07:49] <sugoi> oh and i wasn't even reading the error :)
L659[16:07:51] <JohnC> you should totally add python support btw :P
L660[16:07:53] <sugoi> require is not there :)
L661[16:08:09] <ProbablyKodos> JohnC: Feel free to make a Python arch once you get more familiar with the mod =)
L662[16:08:14] <JohnC> haha
L663[16:08:22] <JohnC> sadly I'm not too familiar with Java
L664[16:08:28] <vifino> JohnC: Hand me a python sandbox and I'll add it to |0xDEADBEEF|. :3
L665[16:08:44] <ProbablyKodos> JohnC: you misspelled Scala =P
L666[16:08:49] <vifino> |0xDEADBEEF| is a clusterfuck anyways. Might as well add more clusterfuck.
L667[16:09:07] <sugoi> #lua 1/0
L668[16:09:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > inf
L669[16:09:13] <Sangar> hurr hurr, this is fun
L670[16:09:17] <ProbablyKodos> Sangar: Have you seen https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1425 yet
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L672[16:09:31] <Sangar> ProbablyKodos, yeah, not a bad idea
L673[16:09:31] <JohnC> eh, I come from the land of C# and .NET, Java land is hostile territory to most of us :P I just don't have time to learn it, personally, sadly
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L677[16:11:41] <Temia> You CAN probably make a Python architecture in Java given the API
L678[16:11:46] <Temia> Anyway hm.
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L680[16:12:00] <JohnC> I think I'm gonna lose a lot of productivity time messing with OC this week I think
L681[16:12:11] <Temia> I still need to try doing my own take on that VRAM thing.
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L683[16:12:18] <Temia> Speeeaking of which
L684[16:12:29] <sugoi> JohnC: i also come from c# (and c++) and have no interest in java. lua though is well worth the study
L685[16:12:31] <vifino> Squeaking of what?
L686[16:12:52] <Temia> Where's Vexatos? I just had a great idea for Computronics
L687[16:12:55] <JohnC> sugoi: I really am not a fan of lua syntax and some of it's operators, but it's simple enough
L688[16:13:08] <Temia> Turn beep cards into polyphony cards and add a tier 2 variant with FM synth :D
L689[16:13:32] <vifino> :o
L690[16:13:33] <sugoi> JohnC: i was there. i hated lua. but get a good editor and stop programming inside the game. and give yourself an interesting project -
L691[16:13:42] <sugoi> you'll find the flexibility of it quite fun
L692[16:13:44] <vifino> Temia: T3 with wavetable synth :3
L693[16:13:46] <sugoi> and it is CLEAN
L694[16:13:47] <JohnC> sugoi: how do you program outside the game?
L695[16:14:01] <sugoi> JohnC: that's the ONLY way i code for the game, never inside
L696[16:14:05] <ProbablyKodos> JohnC: Notepad++
L697[16:14:07] <ProbablyKodos> Atom
L698[16:14:11] <ProbablyKodos> other things
L699[16:14:14] <vifino> vim
L700[16:14:16] * vifino runs
L701[16:14:20] <sugoi> ProbablyKodos: i think he might be wondering how to get the code into the game
L702[16:14:27] <JohnC> I mean, how do you move code from an IDE/notepad app to the game?
L703[16:14:30] <ProbablyKodos> sugoi: feel free to explain, being assaulted by wife
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L705[16:14:36] <sugoi> tmi
L706[16:14:42] <ProbablyKodos> Not -that- kind
L707[16:14:54] <ProbablyKodos> She's wanting to go to GameStop and is tickling me
L708[16:14:55] <vifino> lewd
L709[16:15:00] <sugoi> JohnC: there are a few options. but for example - you can use the internet card in the game and have wget
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L711[16:15:12] <sugoi> what game?
L712[16:15:18] <vifino> See ya ProbablyKodos :P
L713[16:15:28] <sugoi> JohnC: i also use an oc emulator
L714[16:15:40] <JohnC> sugoi: :o
L715[16:15:46] <Temia> You could probably also write a decent FTP client in lua
L716[16:15:46] <sugoi> and i wrote a custom build script and a makefile project in visual studio
L717[16:16:08] <JohnC> that's... yeah ok
L718[16:16:10] <sugoi> so i just 'build' and it pushes to my emulator's oc drive path
L719[16:16:29] <sugoi> then i just tab back and forth between the emulator and vs
L720[16:16:42] <sugoi> and i use a lua plugin for vs for syntax foo
L721[16:17:04] <JohnC> that might not be a bad idea
L722[16:17:16] <sugoi> JohnC: your hate of lua might not be lua :)
L723[16:17:28] <Temia> Until unmanaged drives become big
L724[16:17:29] <sugoi> ever done any javascript?
L725[16:17:31] <Temia> Then there's a problem
L726[16:17:41] <JohnC> yes, plenty of javascript
L727[16:17:45] <sugoi> JohnC: if you hate javascript you'll love lua
L728[16:17:49] <JohnC> lol
L729[16:17:58] <JohnC> I don't have the hatehardon for JS that most devs have
L730[16:18:19] <sugoi> >.<
L731[16:18:44] <sugoi> JohnC: for oc emulation: https://github.com/gamax92/OCEmu
L732[16:18:52] <sugoi> and i fork it, to improve the modem driver
L733[16:18:58] <sugoi> in case you need modem support
L734[16:19:09] * sugoi points out to gamax92 the PR is still pending :(
L735[16:19:58] * gamax92 gives sugoi a calculus textbook and a mineral identification chart
L736[16:20:00] * Temia contemplates a config parser for OCEmu so you can see what energy usage is like
L737[16:20:18] <sugoi> calc, good. mineral identification chart -- that's entirely new info :)
L738[16:20:27] * sugoi took phsyics and not geo
L739[16:20:39] <sugoi> that's why i can sepll
L740[16:20:53] <sugoi> pslel
L741[16:20:58] * sugoi hides
L742[16:21:11] * sugoi bumps into vifino - bad hiding spot apparently
L743[16:21:21] <ProbablyKodos> Split Infinity Radio: We spelz gewd
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L746[16:23:03] <sugoi> Sangar: speaking of moving, my family wants to move to switzerland
L747[16:23:21] <JohnC> I will script all the things in my world, mwahaha :D
L748[16:23:29] <sugoi> my employer has a hub there
L749[16:23:59] <ProbablyKodos> Speaking of Switzerland
L750[16:24:07] <ProbablyKodos> I went to IKEA for the first time yesterday :3
L751[16:24:33] <Temia> Uh, IKEA is a Swedish company, not Swiss. >_>
L752[16:24:44] <JohnC> they have meatballs :)
L753[16:25:04] <ProbablyKodos> Temia: Right, derp
L754[16:25:07] <sugoi> JohnC: you use devenv, yes?
L755[16:25:10] <ProbablyKodos> JohnC: yes, and they were delish
L756[16:25:57] <JohnC> sugoi: yup
L757[16:26:54] <sugoi> JohnC: i've not used this bc i use 2013 and i didn't test it, but if you use 2010 it might be worth looking into https://vslua.codeplex.com/
L758[16:27:09] <JohnC> I use 2013 and 2015
L759[16:27:10] <sugoi> but i do use this https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/7af51f37-07ad-4d6b-9c2b-00672bb051ad
L760[16:27:29] <Sangar> sugoi, that could be... interesting. from what i hear they're not the most... open people >_>
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L762[16:27:51] <JohnC> nice :)
L763[16:28:30] <sugoi> Sangar: i very friendly! can it be worse than irc?
L764[16:29:08] <sugoi> but in seriousness, i'd love to move there
L765[16:29:37] <JohnC> oh nice! flawless APIs for enderio capacitors :D
L766[16:29:40] <Sangar> haha, good point. wouldn't expect the people i've talked to that actually did move there / lived there to have been on irc much :X
L767[16:30:02] <Sangar> sugoi, just make sure to go shopping in germany then :P stuff's expensive in switzerland
L768[16:30:32] <JohnC> dang, the RF conduit API sucks though
L769[16:30:43] <JohnC> I assume that's an RF problem though :)
L770[16:31:26] <sugoi> Sangar: germany would be ~9 hours away
L771[16:31:43] <Temia> Sangar: Keep in mind they DID open-source large chunks of the .NET framework recently
L772[16:31:50] <Sangar> oh, southern part then?
L773[16:31:58] <Temia> As well as ported a version of VS to Linux
L774[16:32:02] <sugoi> oh google maps you failed me
L775[16:32:07] <Sangar> Temia, eh?
L776[16:32:07] * sugoi recalculates
L777[16:32:13] <Temia> You weren't aware?
L778[16:32:17] <Sangar> i was
L779[16:32:25] <Sangar> i'm just not sure why you're telling me :X
L780[16:32:35] <Temia> Because of the remark about them not being the most open people.
L781[16:32:37] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi: I don't think you need 9h to germany from anywhere inside switzerland...
L782[16:32:51] <sugoi> DeanIsaKitty: i derp'd
L783[16:33:01] <Temia> Sure, some think it's an EEE strategy, some think it's an honest effort, I'm neither (I think they're just giving up on pretending Windows is still a viable development platform), but
L784[16:33:06] <Sangar> what does people from switzerland (from what i hear) not being open to foreigners that work there have to do with .net? :X
L785[16:33:08] <Temia> They are turning things around nonetheless
L786[16:33:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: The most open ppl was about Swiss ppl, not µsoft :D
L787[16:33:33] <Temia> Oh.
L788[16:33:37] <Temia> My apologies
L789[16:33:38] <sugoi> ok ~3 hours
L790[16:33:42] <Temia> hurr.
L791[16:33:43] <Sangar> heh
L792[16:33:48] <gamax92> durr
L793[16:34:04] <Temia> I'm sorry, the fact that sugoi posted a link to a VS extension and you were addressing him threw me off. @_@
L794[16:34:13] <Sangar> it happens ^^
L795[16:34:17] <Sangar> yay
L796[16:34:20] <Sangar> this stuff is killing me
L797[16:34:43] <Sangar> and now it also stops killing me after it killed me. progress :X
L798[16:34:50] <Sangar> *killed
L799[16:34:53] <Sangar> wait
L800[16:34:55] <Sangar> goddamn
L801[16:34:58] <Sangar> i can't read anymore
L802[16:35:27] <Sangar> two more points from the todo list done \o/
L803[16:35:53] <ProbablyKodos> morepixplzkthx
L804[16:37:20] <Sangar> that's kind of a problem, not much to make pics of :X i'll make a vid when i'm done-ish though
L805[16:37:21] * vifino slaps freebsd
L806[16:37:22] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L807[16:37:38] <vifino> Docker on freebsd, pls. y u no friendly named interface?!!?!
L808[16:37:39] <ProbablyKodos> Apparently Facebook is getting ready to test out a Dislike button
L809[16:38:02] <JohnC> ohhhh, I need to test TiC next!
L810[16:38:09] * JohnC OCs all the things!
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L812[16:39:36] <sugoi> JohnC: let me know if you have dev and ocemu questions - would be happy to help
L813[16:39:43] <Inari> ProbablyKodos: they could test out good german translations
L814[16:39:45] <sugoi> also, do you use linux?
L815[16:40:57] <JohnC> sugoi: windows is main, but I have just about every platform in the office
L816[16:41:06] <Inari> 'X "I Like'-Statements' *shudders*
L817[16:41:12] <JohnC> I... dislike too much linux
L818[16:41:46] <Sangar> and one more off the list
L819[16:42:03] <JohnC> my only dislike in OC so far: camelCase mixed with underscore naming_conventions :P
L820[16:42:18] <Sangar> the underscores are only the event names tho :P
L821[16:43:17] <Sangar> sooo... just some minor additions tomorrow, testing if it works on servers, and then... deciding how to craft this stuff, and making a texture (that's what i'm most afraid of :X)
L822[16:43:46] <ProbablyKodos> You know, you could outsource the texture to someone
L823[16:44:02] <Sangar> but then i'd have to tell them what it is ;)
L824[16:44:10] <ProbablyKodos> I certainly couldn't come up with a worse texture than you though =P
L825[16:44:17] <Sangar> (not that it wasn't guessed already anyway :X)
L826[16:44:29] <Sangar> ^.-
L827[16:44:36] <ProbablyKodos> Neural Implants, we know already
L828[16:45:01] <Sangar> not quite
L829[16:45:51] <Sangar> could have been, if i didn't want to throw another reference in the manual :P
L830[16:46:33] <ProbablyKodos> Neural Interface?
L831[16:47:39] <JohnC> nacho ingester
L832[16:48:08] * Sangar awards points to Temia
L833[16:49:01] <ProbablyKodos> I only see nanomachines
L834[16:50:19] <Sangar> you have pretty good eyes then :P
L835[16:50:27] <sugoi> ha
L836[16:51:35] <Sangar> oh well, i need some sleep, gnight! o/
L837[16:51:37] <ProbablyKodos> remote control stuff
L838[16:51:39] <ProbablyKodos> idk
L839[16:51:40] <sugoi> goodnight
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L842[17:05:36] <JohnC> is it possible to know which components are placed next to another component? I want to pair a redstone output with an adapter
L843[17:07:00] <ProbablyKodos> Components act as cables
L844[17:07:06] <ProbablyKodos> So any adjacent components will connect
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L847[17:17:38] <JohnC> yes, I understand that part
L848[17:18:10] <JohnC> but I want to have several pairs of adapter + redstone output component without having to copy/paste a ton of uuids into code
L849[17:18:58] <Dashkal> Is network topology exposed in the lua sandbox?
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L851[17:20:47] <ProbablyKodos> JohnC: something something for addr, type in component.list() do if type == "adapter" (or redstone, whichever) then blah
L852[17:21:05] <ProbablyKodos> Use that to assign each adapter and redstone's address to some sort of shortened name
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L856[17:22:40] <gamax92> "[16:21:43] [Client thread/WARN]: Something's taking too long! 'root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root.root' took aprox 333.971312 ms"
L857[17:22:50] <gamax92> root root root root root root root root root root root root root root root root root root
L858[17:22:59] <Mimiru> root.
L859[17:23:45] <sugoi> gamax92, such a haxxor
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L861[17:25:06] <ProbablyKodos> I am Root.
L862[17:31:13] <ds84182> gamax92: toot.toot.toot.toot
L863[17:31:55] <Dashkal> re.boot.boot.boot.boot
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L870[18:56:46] <vifino> Fuck yes. I figured jails out.
L871[18:56:53] <vifino> Well, jails + pf
L872[18:57:01] <vifino> Gotta love pf.
L873[18:59:38] <vifino> I'm actually starting to like freebsd as a server.
L874[19:11:02] <vifino> I'mma head to bed. See ya all.
L875[19:11:35] <sugoi> by vifino
L876[19:11:45] <S3> vifino: yay
L877[19:11:58] <S3> I have actually never messed with jails
L878[19:12:03] <S3> gamax92: toor
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L880[19:15:47] <ProbablyKodos> uwot
L881[19:16:33] <ProbablyKodos> Welp, no grocery money until Saturday
L882[19:16:35] <ProbablyKodos> This week should be fun
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L884[19:17:50] <JohnC> is there a timer or something in OC? I need to write a program that runs forever but doesn't have any events to respond to
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L886[19:18:02] <ProbablyKodos> JohnC: while true do yourcode end
L887[19:18:16] <JohnC> errrr, that's nasty
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L889[19:18:26] <ProbablyKodos> ~w event
L890[19:18:26] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L891[19:18:45] <ProbablyKodos> You could also while true do, but have a check for a keypress
L892[19:18:59] <ProbablyKodos> So, while running do yourcode if keyispressed then running = false end
L893[19:19:14] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/shinh/sedlisp/blob/master/sedlisp.sed
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L899[19:19:27] <CompanionCube> Someone implemented a decent chunk of a lisp
L900[19:19:35] <CompanionCube> using only sed
L901[19:20:00] <JohnC> while true do yourcode end <-- this uses a ton of cpu, doesn't it?
L902[19:20:03] <JohnC> usually it would
L903[19:20:11] <ProbablyKodos> Not that I'm aware of
L904[19:20:20] <ProbablyKodos> Not in OC anyway
L905[19:20:21] <JohnC> I need like every n ticks run mycode
L906[19:20:31] <CompanionCube> JohnC: it will run your code forever unless you break out
L907[19:20:36] <ProbablyKodos> while true do yourcode os.sleep(time in seconds) end
L908[19:20:45] <ProbablyKodos> One tick is 0.05
L909[19:21:11] <JohnC> os.sleep is part of lua itself?
L910[19:21:21] <ProbablyKodos> ~w non-standard libraries
L911[19:21:21] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:non-standard-lua-libs
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L913[19:21:35] <ProbablyKodos> Err
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L915[19:21:42] <ProbablyKodos> ~w os.sleep
L916[19:21:42] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-os.setlocale
L917[19:21:44] <ProbablyKodos> ...
L918[19:21:47] <ProbablyKodos> Useless bot
L919[19:21:54] <ProbablyKodos> Anyway, os.sleep(seconds) works
L920[19:21:59] <ProbablyKodos> Dunno which lib provides it
L921[19:22:02] <ProbablyKodos> err
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L923[19:22:07] <ProbablyKodos> If OOS does, or Lua itself
L924[19:22:09] <ProbablyKodos> But it works
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L926[19:23:25] <JohnC> great, that's perfect
L927[19:23:55] <ProbablyKodos> http://imgur.com/NVjwJFE Those timestamps though
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L929[19:24:56] <JohnC> ?
L930[19:25:21] <ProbablyKodos> This laptop's clock battery is ded
L931[19:25:24] <ProbablyKodos> So the time loops
L932[19:25:46] <ProbablyKodos> I cba to fix it since it's not my laptop and I could give two shits anyway since I leave for home a week from tomorrow
L933[19:26:32] * CompanionCube would just install ntpd
L934[19:27:25] <CompanionCube> ProbablyKodos: what do you think of the lisp thing in sed?
L935[19:28:15] * ProbablyKodos shrugs
L936[19:28:20] <ProbablyKodos> I don't use/know Lisp
L937[19:28:26] <ProbablyKodos> I know a guy with one
L938[19:28:28] <ProbablyKodos> But that's it
L939[19:28:44] <CompanionCube> I think that it's technically neat
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L941[19:29:22] <ProbablyKodos> Brb gonna post http://imgur.com/CjsUw9u on my mother in law's facebook and see how fast she shares it lol
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L947[19:30:43] <Ekoserin> ProbablyKodos: Dihydrogen monoxide, one of my favorite things.
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L949[19:37:31] <v^> ProbablyKodos, are you kodos
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L951[19:38:17] <ProbablyKodos> Probably
L952[19:38:21] <scj643> How would I do an http get
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L954[19:38:31] <scj643> Trying to make a pushbullet API
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L956[19:39:31] <scj643> Any ideas
L957[19:39:35] <v^> scj643, use the http api?
L958[19:40:03] <scj643> Oh that makes sense was trying to use the Internet card directly
L959[19:40:18] <scj643> How do I load that
L960[19:40:24] <scj643>
L961[19:40:27] <scj643> Wiki time
L962[19:40:33] <ProbablyKodos> ~w http api
L963[19:40:33] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:text
L964[19:40:36] <ProbablyKodos> ...
L965[19:41:33] <v^> scj643, looks like pushbullet requires you to send a access token header
L966[19:41:40] <scj643> Yep
L967[19:41:56] <scj643> Computer craft does it
L968[19:42:13] <scj643> Can open computers do it?
L969[19:43:17] <gamax92> ~w api internet
L970[19:43:17] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:internet
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L972[19:45:36] <Mimiru> \o/ XMPP auths against my IPB user db now
L973[19:46:33] <ProbablyKodos> wat
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L975[19:48:26] <Mimiru> Setting up XMPP for my games chat backend, I needed it to authenticate people against my forum DB, as that's what my game uses
L976[19:48:36] <scj643> nice
L977[19:48:43] <ProbablyKodos> http://imgur.com/a/ZLD3Z
L978[19:49:37] <scj643> That is Minecraft?
L979[19:49:40] <ProbablyKodos> Yes
L980[19:49:59] <scj643> Dang
L981[19:50:08] <scj643> What mod Pack?
L982[19:50:11] <Ekoserin> No way in hell...
L983[19:50:20] <Ekoserin> That's amazing.
L984[19:50:23] <ProbablyKodos> No idea what modpack it is, I found that album on Reddit
L985[19:51:03] <scj643> Dang
L986[19:51:28] <scj643> Looks sweet and I need a text editor with color coding in oc
L987[19:51:59] <ProbablyKodos> I believe you mean Syntax Highlighting
L988[19:52:04] <scj643> Yeah
L989[19:52:14] <ProbablyKodos> There isn't one, afaik. You could always use Notepad++
L990[19:52:53] <scj643> The one thing oc lacks is program's unlike computer craft
L991[19:53:23] <scj643> Still open computers is better imho
L992[19:54:12] <ProbablyKodos> It's not that it's lacking programs. You have to take into account that CC has been around for years, where OC is about a year and a half old
L993[19:54:20] <ProbablyKodos> And still isn't very popular since it's not in most modpacks
L994[19:54:30] <ProbablyKodos> It's been gaining more and more steam though
L995[19:54:37] <scj643> Yeah wish the adoption rate would go up
L996[19:54:37] <gamax92> chugga chugga chugga
L997[19:54:46] <scj643> Choo ch
L998[19:54:48] <scj643> Choo
L999[19:55:32] <scj643> Anyone want to try and make a pushbullet API
L1000[19:55:53] <scj643> Also would need to decode json
L1001[19:55:56] <ProbablyKodos> Ooh someone opened an issue wrt robots being able to deploy/retrieve drones
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L1006[20:53:52] <Ekoserin> Someone picked up a spider. Jesus has returned.
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L1009[21:03:46] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L1010[21:03:49] <dangranos> sorry
L1011[21:04:01] * dangranos slaps himself
L1012[21:04:01] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L1013[21:04:44] <dangranos> though 2 pings in ~3-4 minutes are not nice..
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L1016[21:18:28] <sugoi> Mimiru: that's awesome. all your design and building there? are those cranes functional from some mod?
L1017[21:18:56] <Mimiru> Erm, what?
L1018[21:19:01] <sugoi> oh wow, sorry -
L1019[21:19:09] <sugoi> misread history here
L1020[21:19:21] <sugoi> thought you gave that link, but was kodos
L1021[21:19:37] <Mimiru> Ahh that link lol
L1022[21:19:38] <Mimiru> yeaaah
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L1026[22:08:56] <ProbablyKodos> Anyone know much about Shocky?
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L1028[22:16:40] <sugoi> anyone - if you have a config utility (save and load) and you load from a filenotfound, i think i like returning {} instead of nil
L1029[22:16:45] <sugoi> anyone strongly disagree/agree?
L1030[22:17:42] <sugoi> no
L1031[22:17:48] <sugoi> i think that hides the problem if you expected the file
L1032[22:18:42] <ProbablyKodos> I like doing something like
L1033[22:18:55] <ProbablyKodos> err
L1034[22:19:01] <ProbablyKodos> Hang on, let me find it
L1035[22:19:03] <sugoi> yeah, i err a lot
L1036[22:19:27] <sugoi> well (in case you're about to say) using (config.load(path) or {}).field is simple enough
L1037[22:19:30] <ProbablyKodos> Local file, err = io.open("derpaderp")
L1038[22:19:36] <ProbablyKodos> if not file then return nil, err
L1039[22:19:53] <ProbablyKodos> But you'd need a way to call the error
L1040[22:20:04] <ProbablyKodos> And I have no idea if what I'm saying even makes sense
L1041[22:20:15] <sugoi> yeah, that's what i have
L1042[22:20:21] <sugoi> was only considering changing it is all
L1043[22:20:46] <sugoi> there are times where default values are fine if no config exists yet
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