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L13[01:50:09] <Sandra> wow. OCJS is really simple.
L14[01:50:20] <Sandra> like... surprisingly so.
L15[01:51:03] <Sandra> but then I guess it doesn't handle cpu or ram or anything.
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L42[06:30:03] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_XA1KN who thought IRC captchas are a good idea now
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L44[06:37:30] <dangranos> ._.
L45[06:37:32] <dangranos> fuck them
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L47[06:40:40] <Lizzy> Eh?
L48[06:49:15] <XDjackieXD> IRC captchas? wtf?
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L51[07:06:51] <Temia> Nepnep is watching. Judging.
L52[07:16:47] <S3> ok
L53[07:21:48] <S3> I need to come up with a static like linking method for the OCBSD kernel
L54[07:22:01] <S3> so that a flat kernel image can be booted with a loader stub
L55[07:22:54] <Skye> wrap things in functions
L56[07:23:02] <S3> well
L57[07:23:07] <S3> I could do that
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L59[07:23:40] <S3> although that's namespace polution unless I throw them into a table or something
L60[07:24:34] <Skye> local
L61[07:24:59] <S3> So I could make a table called __builtin__ or something and then store object function references. local or not I don't think that would help without encapsulating them.
L62[07:25:10] <S3> It is a monolithic kernel, and the namespace has to stay clean
L63[07:25:27] <Skye> Look at how I did miniOS
L64[07:25:37] <S3> is that on git?
L65[07:26:45] <Skye> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/skye-programs
L66[07:26:51] <S3> neat
L67[07:27:11] <Skye> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/skye-Programs/blob/master/miniOS/minios.lua
L68[07:29:26] <Temia> MiniOS? :O
L69[07:29:49] <Skye> Temia, it's old
L70[07:30:13] <Temia> What're its design goals, though? :o
L71[07:30:41] <Skye> be as small as possible
L72[07:30:49] <Skye> and have some OpenOS compatibility
L73[07:31:04] <Temia> How well does it achieve that?
L74[07:31:35] <Lizzy> Magic
L75[07:32:48] <Temia> No, how well, not how
L76[07:33:30] <Lizzy> Magic.
L77[07:33:37] <S3> :>
L78[07:35:19] <S3> Skye: looks to me like you're not doing anything like that, and just using your runfile wrapper for pcall to load libs
L79[07:35:32] <S3> I cannot do that
L80[07:35:36] <Temia> :I
L81[07:35:41] * Temia gnaws on Lizzy's wings
L82[07:35:52] <Lizzy> Oww
L83[07:36:02] * Lizzy pouts
L84[07:38:04] <Temia> ah-
L85[07:38:08] <S3> In order to pull OCBSD up, It's going to need to load code I have in seperate files for handling things.. for example ptys (which isn't a boot requirement but)- these are built-ins. Which means that they are in the same file as the file which is booted as the kernel, and not seperate. They are only seperate in terms of your source build directory, soon as you tell it to build your kernel it attaches all of the built ins referenced in the config
L86[07:38:11] <Temia> My laptop's pointer is on the blink again ._.
L87[07:38:44] <S3> I just need to find a way to attach these, and I think I will stick em in a __builtin__ table
L88[07:39:58] <S3> they can be proxied into kobjects or the super internal stuff can throw monolithic namespaces into _G
L89[07:41:36] <S3> to be consistent, modules (drivers, etc) can also be builtin if specified in the config
L90[07:41:43] <S3> but they can also remain seperate, and loaded on demand
L91[07:49:52] <Skye> Temia, by stealing OpenOS code
L92[07:50:20] <Temia> I SAID HOW WELL D:
L93[07:50:26] * Temia gnaws on Skye
L94[07:50:36] <Skye> OW!
L95[07:50:40] * Skye bleeds a lot
L96[07:50:43] <Skye> quite badly
L97[07:51:01] <Temia> S3: Makes you wish there was a way to enforce a specific scope easily, huh.
L98[07:51:10] <Temia> Like "in table do" or whatever
L99[07:52:15] <Temia> ....I had a crazy thought
L100[07:52:22] <Temia> How compact can tar's code be made?
L101[07:52:49] <Temia> If you could get it to fit within a bootstrapper, you could simply make a sort of initramfs with it instead
L102[07:53:53] <Temia> That or other serialisation methods
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L105[08:05:01] <S3> OCBSD will support initrds
L106[08:05:13] <S3> but that is intended for an initial root fs
L107[08:05:25] <S3> not for (here's my packed kernel full of built in functions)
L108[08:05:43] <S3> initrds should be used to load modules and stuff for things like rootfs over the network, etc
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L110[08:06:03] <S3> and to prepare connections like that
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L113[08:07:26] <S3> but some things are built into the kernel. kobjects, like srcroot/sys/kobj.lua, srcroot/arch/oc/vc.lua, srcroot/sys/tty.lua ...etc
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L115[08:08:55] <S3> those can't really be module
L116[08:08:56] * Temia nods
L117[08:08:57] <S3> modules*
L118[08:09:21] <Temia> Which again falls to that wish that there be some kind of easy way to enforce scope
L119[08:09:43] <S3> well it being monolithic, those are all subsystem stubs
L120[08:09:57] <S3> kobj will literally prepare _G['kobj'] for you
L121[08:10:07] <S3> but you don't want your modules doing that
L122[08:10:10] <Temia> Ah,
L123[08:10:13] <Temia> Fair enough.
L124[08:10:31] <S3> this way anywhere in the kernel you should be able to be like..
L125[08:10:34] <Temia> I dunno. I'm sleepy.
L126[08:10:40] <Temia> or groggy.
L127[08:10:42] <S3> kobj.foo.bar.xyz
L128[08:10:43] <S3> lol
L129[08:10:47] <Temia> Hard to tell which is which these adys
L130[08:10:54] <Temia> I should make breakfast. =.=
L131[08:11:14] <Temia> and then maybe code to get my brain going
L132[08:14:09] <S3> I guess what I could do
L133[08:14:24] <S3> is compile up the code into a giant table called __builtin__
L134[08:14:31] <S3> and then search that before loading modules
L135[08:14:37] <S3> for a function called __INIT__ in each one?
L136[08:15:17] <S3> no.. I think I have a better method.
L137[08:15:31] <S3> the better method requires forward declarations
L138[08:15:49] <S3> super builtins could technically just be concatenated into the kernel image file
L139[08:16:11] <S3> problem with this is namespace pollution.
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L141[08:19:24] <sugoi> what if you were to temporarily change the indexer of _G to use your own table instead
L142[08:19:42] <S3> wut
L143[08:20:00] <sugoi> to create a sort of temporary controlled namespace without having to change environments
L144[08:20:01] <dangranos> this is madness
L145[08:20:03] <S3> like, build some autoloader?
L146[08:20:08] <S3> into _G
L147[08:20:13] <S3> to search the builtin namespace
L148[08:20:37] <dangranos> that sounds crazy
L149[08:20:39] <sugoi> but in a transparent way - so the running code doesn't know _G is hijacked for a time
L150[08:20:49] <S3> It's not crazy, but I don't see what the full purpose is
L151[08:21:05] <S3> well the kernel could care less about a hijacked _G
L152[08:21:10] <sugoi> i suppose this comes from Temia's idea to say in table t do ...
L153[08:21:32] <sugoi> so you could create a namespace via a table
L154[08:21:37] <sugoi> and enforce it for a time
L155[08:21:39] <S3> do you have like a runtime example of how it would be used, in words?
L156[08:23:16] <sugoi> forgive me for not understanding well what issue you are having. my idea comes from what temia said mostly. i could be on a completely unrelated "solution"
L157[08:23:29] <S3> so
L158[08:23:33] <sugoi> perhaps you could give a one liner example of what type of problem you anticipate
L159[08:23:42] <S3> definately not one liner :D
L160[08:23:43] <Temia> likewise I may be misunderstanding what S3's needs are
L161[08:24:50] <S3> so when I write code, I like to make a bunch of smaller files that make up with the project actually does. reasonable yes? The problem is that OCBSD uses unmanaged drives. there is a lot of code that needs to be packed into the kernel file (as if you're compiling it together, not really compiling it from source to machine code)
L162[08:25:07] <S3> some of this code is the VFS
L163[08:25:23] <S3> which is required for being able to read files on the disks in unmanaged mode
L164[08:25:34] <S3> or at least handling filesystem modules and such that do so
L165[08:25:49] <sugoi> unmanaged drives, so - you don't have normal file markers? but instead "file" offsets?
L166[08:25:57] <S3> yep.
L167[08:25:58] <sugoi> packed in, sounds like string concat
L168[08:26:03] <Temia> Okay
L169[08:26:07] <Temia> so it IS what I expected
L170[08:26:09] <S3> I have my own partition table design and everything
L171[08:26:26] <S3> and plan to use Magik6k's Mr.Fs with it
L172[08:26:49] <S3> sugoi: yes it definately will be a concatenated file
L173[08:26:59] <Temia> Basically my idea was that you could simply import the files into the main script at "build" time, wrapped by such a hypothetical scope
L174[08:27:27] <Temia> Thus allowing everything to be defined in a particular table where you want it without extensive modification
L175[08:28:04] <Temia> also, question, will OCBSD support file/directory permissions?
L176[08:29:16] <sugoi> S3: so when does this process run amok?
L177[08:29:35] <S3> yeah. Like I was saying, the challenge is not the actual concatenation, it's doing it in a way that is not intrusive to the kernel but lets the kernel have access to all of it in a nice way :)
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L179[08:30:00] <S3> if you just randomly concatenate code into the kernel you run into one issue:
L180[08:30:03] <S3> dependencies
L181[08:30:11] <S3> and you run into namespace pollution, etc
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L183[08:30:37] <Temia> Well, namespace pollution would be handled by the scope, but dependencies would probably have to be settled by the build script.
L184[08:30:39] <sugoi> and by namespace you mean _G keys
L185[08:30:42] <S3> and yes Temia, OCBSD will suport user / group / other / sticky permissions
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L187[08:31:00] <Temia> Or heck, if you make a sophisticated enough build system, you could probably handle namespace management within that.
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L189[08:31:24] <S3> yeah idk
L190[08:31:30] <S3> I was looking for a menuconfig like setup
L191[08:31:31] <Temia> You'd just need to do some pretty extensive reparsing/variable tracking, or write some kind of preprocessor script
L192[08:31:41] <S3> something that could work outside of MC or inside OpenOS or whatever
L193[08:31:51] <S3> it would require portability libs for the tty
L194[08:31:56] <S3> (not a huge deal)
L195[08:32:18] <S3> but at first itl be like the old linux way
L196[08:32:26] <S3> just manually editing .config ..
L197[08:32:57] <Temia> Make the tools themselves first, then worry about the convenient interfaces.
L198[08:33:00] <S3> DRIVER_OCNET=y # OC network card support
L199[08:33:08] <S3> right
L200[08:34:00] <S3> BUS_PERIPHERAL=y # CC peripheral bus support.. BUS_COMPONENT=m # install OC component bus as a module
L201[08:34:17] <S3> etc
L202[08:35:08] <S3> once everything is working, a nice cli menu you can use with your keyboard would be nice eh
L203[08:35:45] <Temia> Eh.
L204[08:35:53] <sugoi> S3: so ... do you want to isolate all the kernel methods - so 1. non kernel calls dont have direct access (not global) but in kernel calls do (appear global) without having to switch environments each time?
L205[08:36:03] <Temia> I prefer conf editing and shell tools anyway.
L206[08:36:34] <sugoi> s/but/and 2./
L207[08:36:34] <Kibibyte> <sugoi> S3: so ... do you want to isolate all the kernel methods - so 1. non kernel calls dont have direct access (not global) and 2. in kernel calls do (appear global) without having to switch environments each time?
L208[08:37:01] <S3> well actually sugoi
L209[08:37:01] * sugoi gives Kibibyte a cookie
L210[08:37:17] <S3> processes don't have access to any kernel internals at all. they are 100% isolated
L211[08:37:31] <S3> in order to perform a syscall, they have to yield to the call gate
L212[08:37:37] <sugoi> so where is the namespace pollution
L213[08:37:42] <S3> which forces processes to behave
L214[08:37:49] <S3> I'
L215[08:38:01] <sugoi> that is good, i like that design choice
L216[08:38:08] <S3> I'm talking about the lower half of the kernel
L217[08:39:30] <sugoi> so two halves of the kernel. so my same question Kibibyte helped me with above -- but instead of user vs kernel it is kernel half vs kernel half?
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L219[08:43:53] <S3> not really. I have a drawing somewhere, but... lemme see
L220[08:44:18] <sugoi> i wont be on much more - don't let me trouble you
L221[08:45:52] <CompanionCube> S3, I'm guessing you're taking inspiration from POSIX for ocbsd?
L222[08:50:21] <S3> FreeBSD
L223[08:50:42] <S3> so I just drew a picture
L224[08:50:45] <S3> ill upload it
L225[08:51:15] <S3> Unlike Linux's design, FreBSD topology is much more simple
L226[08:55:41] <S3> OMG
L227[08:55:45] <S3> imgur really frigging sucks noiw
L228[08:55:48] <S3> I hate ity
L229[08:56:10] <S3> it doesn't show me what I upload on the phone anymore
L230[08:59:32] <S3> ok. sugoi: http://i.imgur.com/k44cH95.jpg
L231[09:00:39] <S3> so basically the lower half of the kernel is responsible for managing hardware and providing all of the internal functions
L232[09:00:49] <S3> the upper half has two responsibilities:
L233[09:01:23] <S3> schedule processes, including starting them, stopping them, sending signals to them, etc.
L234[09:01:31] <S3> thats the first
L235[09:01:57] <S3> the second responsibility of the upper half is to provide a secure "call gate" between processes and the lower half of the kernel
L236[09:02:35] <S3> functions like open(), read(), write(), close(), fork(), exec().. are all syscalls.
L237[09:02:53] <S3> Interestingly enough, fork() and exec() can exist in the upper half
L238[09:03:04] <S3> but all the rest are parts of the VFS
L239[09:03:15] <S3> and the VFS is in the lower half.
L240[09:03:31] <S3> There is absolutely no way for processes to directly communicate with drivers, also.
L241[09:04:00] <S3> drivers provide callbacks and such to sysfs, via kobj files. These nodes can be found in /sys
L242[09:04:21] <S3> drivers can also create character, block, and special devices in /dev
L243[09:04:37] <S3> so you communicate with drivers the unix way, via file io.
L244[09:04:53] <S3> (but it's virtual file IO, nothing is written to a disk)(
L245[09:05:49] <S3> unfortunately for some this means you can not directly make calls like component.list or talk to components in such a way
L246[09:06:42] <S3> but! It does allow you to be like, echo "right on" > /sys/component/redstone or whatever
L247[09:07:17] <S3> and allows you to in your lua programs open() that file instead and call the callbacks directly
L248[09:07:51] <Temia> Hmm.
L249[09:08:07] <Temia> I think 'echo 1 > /sys/component/redstone/[side]' would be better syntax
L250[09:08:20] <Temia> Or echo 15/255 or whatever
L251[09:09:35] <Temia> Spamming tier 2 bundled output would probably look like echo 65535 > /sys/component/redstone/north or whatever :v
L252[09:09:36] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L253[09:09:49] <Temia> I like this bot.
L254[09:11:20] <sugoi> S3: ok, i think i'm good with all of that. great drawing btw - thanks :) where is the namespace pollution? again, is this lower half adding _G level objects, and assuming _G level objects, and you don't want those to crowd _G level objects the upper half has made?
L255[09:23:38] <sugoi> i have to go. S3 - good luck and good fun to you. thanks for sharing
L256[09:23:40] * sugoi is afk
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L259[09:27:56] <S3> Temia: that would be the same thing..
L260[09:28:07] <S3> echo "1" == echo 1
L261[09:28:26] <S3> I just have a habbit of using ""
L262[09:31:33] <gamax92> hobbit
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L266[09:51:59] <S3> /win 11
L267[09:52:01] <S3> oops
L268[09:52:17] <ds84182> /lose 11lbs
L269[09:54:48] <gamax92> /lose space
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L271[10:01:18] <Cazzar> MOV [weight], $0
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L276[10:07:31] <Temia> You said 'right on', not 1 .-.
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L284[10:57:36] <jhagrid77> Hello everyone.
L285[10:58:14] <Skye> hi
L286[10:58:30] <jhagrid77> how are you doing?
L287[11:01:14] <Skye> tired
L288[11:02:08] <jhagrid77> ahh
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L290[11:10:27] <jhagrid77> so i got a question for anyone,
L291[11:10:46] <Temia> Moo?
L292[11:12:02] <jhagrid77> Does anyone have an "awesome" or "overpowered" OC map? like an awesome layout or something, as I am currently trying to set up an entire wall of RAIDS, hopefully the pc I am building will be able to take it though.
L293[11:13:21] <jhagrid77> What do you mean by an entire wall of RAIDS you ask, I mean a wall of 256 by whatever 1 side of the map is
L294[11:13:54] <jhagrid77> truthfully I think superflat worlds are smaller then normal though as i take maybe 600 steps
L295[11:13:57] <gamax92> won't the CPU just blue screen because of too many components?
L296[11:14:15] <Temia> Yeah, you'd have to configure some kind of NAS
L297[11:14:51] <Temia> And you'd be restricted to a fairly small amount of RAIDS per server -- 64 components in total.
L298[11:16:26] <jhagrid77> 31999 RAIDS
L299[11:16:29] <jhagrid77> NAS?
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L301[11:17:03] <jhagrid77> sorry just got OpenComputers like 2 weeks ago and was going crazy on the 1.7.10 version then i said well there is a 1.8 version so why not
L302[11:17:52] <jhagrid77> so how many components can 1 pc use?
L303[11:18:22] <gamax92> computer can use up to 16 on t3, and I think 64 as a t3 server + bus upgrades
L304[11:18:47] <jhagrid77> ahh ok,
L305[11:18:54] <jhagrid77> What about a Creative case?
L306[11:19:02] <gamax92> it's based on the cpu, not the case
L307[11:19:23] <Temia> NAS is network-attached storage
L308[11:19:30] <Temia> Basically a server that's just providing storage space
L309[11:19:44] <Temia> Which means coming up with suitable filesystem drivers if there aren't any already
L310[11:20:35] <jhagrid77> ahh ok thanks, I have to say this is a very good chat.
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L313[11:24:31] <Sangar> /o/
L314[11:28:02] <Vexatos> \o\
L315[11:28:25] <Vexatos> Snagar: Released Computronics 1.5.7 :D
L316[11:28:33] <cloakable> |o|
L317[11:28:37] <cloakable> pew pew
L318[11:28:54] <Sangar> Vexatos, oho? what's it do?
L319[11:29:25] <cloakable> It compromises servers to allow Vexatos to assume control
L320[11:29:30] <Sangar> (please not depend on oc .18 because that isn't out :X)
L321[11:29:33] <ds84182> Awesome ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L322[11:29:43] <cloakable> All your base are belong to Vexatos
L323[11:29:50] <ds84182> I've always wanted my server to get compromised
L324[11:30:08] <cloakable> ^5 ds84182
L325[11:30:13] <Temia> Haven't there been mods that actually no-shit did that?
L326[11:30:23] <ds84182> Temia: Probably
L327[11:31:23] <ds84182> Wow... my watch is hella laggy for some reason
L328[11:31:58] <jhagrid77> Hey anyone wanna see a stupid "mistake" I made on a server?
L329[11:32:06] <gamax92> nope
L330[11:33:04] <ds84182> I guess it's time to factory resettu
L331[11:33:11] <Temia> Blargh.
L332[11:33:14] <cloakable> jhagrid77: yes
L333[11:33:25] <Temia> Are there any mods that add coffee besides Pam's and Forestry? .-.
L334[11:33:40] <Temia> Apple&Milk&Tea is taunting me with coffee-based recipes that I can't use
L335[11:34:17] <gamax92> Temia: Yes, introducing my new mod, Just Coffee!
L336[11:34:29] <gamax92> Just Coffee is as the name implies, just a coffee mod
L337[11:34:40] <ds84182> Ugh, time to fork it and come up with OpenCoffee
L338[11:35:39] <Temia> Seriously though `-`
L339[11:38:08] <gamax92> Temia: :< y u do dis to me
L340[11:39:13] <Temia> Links or it didn't happen
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L342[11:39:37] <gamax92> Temia: http://gamax92.pc-logix.com/JustCoffee-1.7.10-1.0.1.jar
L343[11:41:56] <Temia> o-oh
L344[11:41:58] <Temia> ...
L345[11:42:01] * Temia hugs Gamax <3
L346[11:42:11] <jhagrid77> uhh mods changed it
L347[11:42:44] <jhagrid77> clockable: I had a very large monitor and it was surrounded with creative cases with the best at the time of the 1.7.10
L348[11:42:48] <Temia> Wait this is a 404.
L349[11:42:50] <Temia> ...
L350[11:42:53] * Temia gnaws on gamax :<
L351[11:43:18] <gamax92> Yay, I see there is sufficient demand
L352[11:43:39] <Temia> YOU TRICKED ME ;A;
L353[11:43:40] * gamax92 goes and unpacks forge for devving
L354[11:43:58] <cloakable> :D
L355[11:44:19] <jhagrid77> cclite builds?
L356[11:44:27] <cloakable> jhagrid77: tab-complete on nicks is your friend, until it isn't
L357[11:45:08] <jhagrid77> cloakable: thanks i didnt know that it worked for this irc
L358[11:45:19] <cloakable> jhagrid77: also, I fail to see how creative cases are a mistake, given they're free :P
L359[11:45:42] <cloakable> jhagrid77: unless you make the monitor from scratch :D
L360[11:46:06] <jhagrid77> cloakable: we should like totally get a server, when i get a legit version of mc...
L361[11:46:09] <Temia> That reminds me
L362[11:46:45] <Temia> I posted an early draft of an adjusted recipe set a while back but I got no commentary on it .-.
L363[11:47:01] <jhagrid77> so a question, whats the irc floppy for ingame?
L364[11:47:07] <cloakable> I have legit mc! I got it back in the alpha days :D
L365[11:47:18] <Temia> IRC floppy?
L366[11:47:27] <Temia> It's for when you're too lazy to alt-tab
L367[11:47:27] <cloakable> jhagrid77: you can connect to an irc server using the internet card!
L368[11:47:29] <Temia> Or something.
L369[11:47:30] * Temia shrusg.
L370[11:48:01] <cloakable> jhagrid77: or in other words, fuck all :D
L371[11:48:06] <jhagrid77> ahh, i wondered why it was there, I know some mods have things like that but then it goes down
L372[11:48:26] * cloakable moos at Temia
L373[11:48:44] * Temia moos back :o
L374[11:48:47] <jhagrid77> oc is dead to me XD i left the world and rejoined it and my cables turned into idk what and then my RAIDs dissapeared
L375[11:49:16] <Temia> Modded Minecraft is typically nowhere near as portable between version changes as vanilla, as a rule.
L376[11:49:32] <tiin57> gamax92: ur mod link iz broke
L377[11:49:46] <tiin57> fix pls
L378[11:50:01] <jhagrid77> Temia: what?
L379[11:50:08] <gamax92> stp tlkn lk diz
L380[11:50:13] <tiin57> nu
L381[11:50:33] <jhagrid77> Temia: I never had an issue except when i had mods from other version on there, i just moved them out though so hopefully that does it
L382[11:51:40] <jhagrid77> so any other awesome computer mods and stuff anyone have?
L383[11:52:19] <Temia> As in you can't just update a major Minecraft version, drag and drop a world and expect the mods to seamlessly transition as well
L384[11:52:27] <cloakable> jhagrid77: there are no other awesome computer mods :D
L385[11:52:29] <Temia> Forge changes too much between versions to do it
L386[11:53:05] <jhagrid77> cloakable: I know XD I had computercraft back when I heavy modded 1.6.4 and it wasnt as cool as this
L387[11:53:28] <jhagrid77> now if only i had a legit version of mc so i could join this server
L388[11:53:38] <cloakable> Well, I suppose ComputerCraft could be awesome if you want to be boring and play creative
L389[11:54:00] <cloakable> jhagrid77: wow, it's almost as if mc is actually expensive xD
L390[11:54:22] <Temia> >.>
L391[11:54:45] <Temia> I still say OC is a bit overly expensive when a over stack of iron ingots is sunk into a barebones T1 computer
L392[11:55:04] <Temia> But again, nobody has commented when I post my draft of a revised recipe set for comment so :x
L393[11:55:08] <tiin57> I say look at IC2 :p
L394[11:55:20] * cloakable does not look at IC2
L395[11:55:34] <jhagrid77> cloakable: Ehh I dont have access to a credit card or anything and don't go to places that sell the mc cards when I actually have the $30 so
L396[11:55:47] <cloakable> My modpack is 900% RF based :D
L397[11:56:05] <cloakable> jhagrid77: debit cards do not exist where you live?
L398[11:57:52] <Sangar> Temia, i never saw such a draft :<
L399[11:58:32] <Sangar> maybe just make a pr with a `vanilla.recipes` set and have it discussed on github?
L400[11:59:25] <Vexatos> Temia, a stack? What
L401[11:59:29] <Vexatos> I used half a stack
L402[12:01:40] <jhagrid77> cloakable: they do but I don't have a bank account I can use and plus im broke almost all the time
L403[12:02:27] <Temia> I've done the numbers -- a basic T1 computer, all T1 parts, not even a harddrive, cost over a stack.
L404[12:02:32] <Temia> I can run the numbers again if you'd like
L405[12:02:46] <Temia> But it'd honestly take forever and I'm not in the mood for that right now
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L414[12:37:02] <gamax92> Temia: I made a thing
L415[12:37:15] <Temia> :o
L416[12:37:41] <gamax92> it's at the previously dead link
L417[12:39:42] <gamax92> >_> I still forgot to move it on the webserver
L418[12:40:17] <gamax92> Temia: okay there, JustCoffee exists
L419[12:40:42] <Temia> :D!
L420[12:41:01] <Temia> What's in it? :3
L421[12:41:11] <gamax92> an item that you can drink
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L423[12:47:00] <cloakable> does it help with hunger/saturation or does it give Strength/Haste? :P
L424[12:47:27] <gamax92> I don't know
L425[12:49:33] *** Fairy is now known as Daiyousei
L426[12:51:03] <vifino> meep
L427[12:52:56] <cloakable> gamax92: plsfox
L428[12:53:06] <gamax92> I am not a fox
L429[12:53:19] <Temia> ...o-oh.
L430[12:53:20] <Temia> Darn
L431[12:53:31] <Temia> I was hoping for coffee bushes or summat :<
L432[12:53:47] * gamax92 cries
L433[12:54:13] * Temia hugs
L434[12:54:17] <Temia> Sorry I should've been more specific :<
L435[12:58:58] <vifino> meeep
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L438[13:01:21] <ProbablyKodos> This guy's build makes me feel like a shit builder http://i.imgur.com/4Bz7ntc.png
L439[13:01:58] <vifino> meeeep
L440[13:02:01] <vifino> '.'
L441[13:05:54] <Temia> Haha, okay, that's pretty cute.
L442[13:06:14] <Lizzy> (>'.'<)
L443[13:06:26] <Temia> Yes, you're cute too, vifino.
L444[13:06:27] * Temia headpats
L445[13:06:43] * vifino blink
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L447[13:07:19] * vifino flops on Lizzy and curls up
L448[13:08:55] <cloakable> vifino is as cute at Temia and Lizzy.
L449[13:09:15] * Temia flops on Lizzy too. wingblankets and dozes.
L450[13:09:21] <vifino> '.'
L451[13:09:51] * cloakable is unsure how a minotaur-taur wingblankets.
L452[13:10:04] * vifino meep
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L454[13:10:46] * Lizzy snuggles Temia more with her wing
L455[13:11:04] <Wobbo> o/
L456[13:11:14] <Wobbo> Suddenly, people are birds
L457[13:11:20] <Lizzy> NA
L458[13:11:22] <Wobbo> or bats
L459[13:11:23] <Lizzy> Na*
L460[13:11:36] * vifino licks Lizzy's face, stands up and gets Lizzy, Temia, cloakable and himself drinks '.'
L461[13:11:56] <ProbablyKodos> Wobbo, do you want to feel bad about your lack of building skills?
L462[13:12:11] <ProbablyKodos> http://i.imgur.com/4Bz7ntc.png
L463[13:12:13] <Wobbo> ProbablyKodos: What do yo mean?
L464[13:12:38] * Skye drinks some hot chocolate
L465[13:12:39] <ProbablyKodos> Gaze upon that picture
L466[13:12:55] <ProbablyKodos> While I go try to fumble around for my glasses
L467[13:13:00] <Wobbo> Thats not fair, that is with a custom texture pack to make it look more awesome!
L468[13:13:28] <Wobbo> Awesome non the less.
L469[13:13:36] <ProbablyKodos> Is it custom?
L470[13:16:07] * vifino returns, gives Lizzy Pepsi, Temia and cloakable their drink of choice and him coke.
L471[13:16:40] <Lizzy> :D
L472[13:16:44] * Lizzy slurps
L473[13:17:35] * gamax92 would like a pepsi as well :>
L474[13:17:54] * vifino leaves again to get gamax92 a pepsi
L475[13:18:24] * cloakable imbibes more booze :D
L476[13:18:50] * vifino returns, handing a pepsi to gamax92
L477[13:19:58] * Temia sleepily sips on coffee
L478[13:20:43] * Temia nestles into Lizzy's wing more and dozes off again
L479[13:22:01] * vifino nibbles on Lizzy and curls up on her
L480[13:22:17] <nxsupert> Kon'nichiwa.
L481[13:22:29] * Lizzy waves
L482[13:23:51] <nxsupert> ?
L483[13:23:54] <cloakable> nxsupert: Greetings to you too
L484[13:24:01] * gamax92 chugs the pepsi
L485[13:24:19] <nxsupert> I'm going to try and speak purely in Emoji.
L486[13:24:43] <cloakable> nxsupert: :D
L487[13:24:44] <vifino> I can't see them, so that's gonna be fun.
L488[13:24:48] <Lizzy> same
L489[13:24:55] * Skye sighs
L490[13:24:57] <Skye> I can see them
L491[13:25:01] * cloakable can see Emoji.
L492[13:25:08] * cloakable approves
L493[13:25:16] <Ivoah> I can see them
L494[13:25:19] <Wobbo> If you can't see emoji you need a new irc client.
L495[13:25:28] * Skye slaps nxsupert
L496[13:25:29] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L497[13:25:43] <Skye> Wobbo, I use hexchat with the symbola font as one of the alternative fonts
L498[13:25:48] * vifino stabs Wobbo
L499[13:25:48] <nxsupert> ⚠️
L500[13:25:53] <ProbablyKodos> Lizzy, please be quiet unless you're going to make a sarcastic comment. Continued use of non-sarcastic statements will net you a 24h ban, as per the channel rules =P
L501[13:25:54] <Lizzy> Wobbo, no, just a different font
L502[13:26:12] <cloakable> Ahahaha
L503[13:26:42] <Wobbo> Lizzy: You should just have a backup font to use when a symbol is not in your font. Its the best way to do it
L504[13:26:48] <Lizzy> ProbablyKodos, Computer says no.
L505[13:26:58] * vifino lets Lizzy piggyback him and walks around a little
L506[13:27:09] <ProbablyKodos> Lizzy: then fix the rules :3
L507[13:27:18] <Lizzy> vifino, am cuddling Temia
L508[13:27:24] <vifino> :(
L509[13:27:51] <nxsupert> ???
L510[13:27:59] <Lizzy> ProbablyKodos, eh, maybe
L511[13:28:00] <nxsupert> Ok. Screw it. This is too hard.
L512[13:28:03] <Skye> [G][B] Train
L513[13:28:14] <Skye> [British Flag] Train
L514[13:28:23] <tiin57> Skye: wat.
L515[13:28:31] <Lizzy> Wobbo, there used to be a setting in hexchat for it but i can't find it, ah well
L516[13:28:33] <Skye> ???
L517[13:28:47] <tiin57> beautiful http://ss.tiin57.net/QImNO
L518[13:29:32] <Wobbo> Y'all need system that are better at handeling fonts
L519[13:30:27] <Lizzy> Wobbo, na. the font i use has all the normal stuff and i'm not to fussed about trying to render emoji's on a text-based protocol
L520[13:30:45] <Lizzy> ..., managed to ping Ender, wat
L521[13:30:48] <Wobbo> Lizzy: My package manager prints emoji
L522[13:30:51] <Lizzy> oh
L523[13:31:01] <Lizzy> cause of 'render'
L524[13:31:03] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L525[13:31:04] <nxsupert> ??✏️?
L526[13:31:10] <Skye> does OC have emoji support?
L527[13:31:28] <nxsupert> If it fully implements Unicode. Then it should do.
L528[13:31:55] <Skye> Sangar, do OC monitors support emoji?
L529[13:32:05] <gamax92> sorta
L530[13:32:21] <Sangar> try it :P
L531[13:32:28] <Skye> gamax92, eh?
L532[13:32:46] <gamax92> all of the stuff past 0xFFFF doesn't exist because Sangar/asie didn't put any support for higher characters
L533[13:32:49] <Sangar> if what you mean are unicode chars, probably. there's only a few ranges missing afaik
L534[13:32:58] <gamax92> and well, there is a lot of emoji past 0xFFFF
L535[13:33:05] <Sangar> aka because java's chars are that :P
L536[13:33:29] <gamax92> example: ? is 0x1F600
L537[13:33:32] <nxsupert> I have found some weird Emoji's.
L538[13:33:42] <gamax92> more example: Unicode's Emoticons block is 1F600-1F64F
L539[13:33:42] <Sangar> all the blocks \o/
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L541[13:33:53] <nxsupert> ? - Wtf
L542[13:33:58] <Sangar> (hexchat doesn't render a single one of those things :X)
L543[13:33:58] * vifino cuddles Lizzy and takes a nap on her too
L544[13:34:18] <ProbablyKodos> Webchat does ;-D
L545[13:34:51] <Sangar> (eh)
L546[13:35:30] <Sangar> weee it kinda works \o/ well, the basics... now to tune stuff
L547[13:35:41] <nxsupert> What works?
L548[13:35:44] * cloakable offers vifino and Lizzy a cuddle
L549[13:35:48] <Sangar> new oc feature i'm working on
L550[13:36:00] <gamax92> Sangar: vector graphics terminals?
L551[13:36:10] <cloakable> holosuites
L552[13:36:15] <Sangar> sorry, no :P
L553[13:37:00] <Wobbo> Sangar: But, but, vector graphics terminals!
L554[13:37:09] <ProbablyKodos> Sangar, /notice me a sneak peek :3
L555[13:37:13] <ProbablyKodos> I can't play with OC right now D=
L556[13:37:15] <cloakable> 3d printing penises in honour of Markplier
L557[13:37:27] <ProbablyKodos> cloakable: only if they're pink
L558[13:37:30] <Sangar> nah, no spoilers for now :P
L559[13:37:36] <ProbablyKodos> Fiiine
L560[13:37:37] <nxsupert> VRam?
L561[13:37:43] <gamax92> I second with nxsupert or Wobbo
L562[13:38:03] <Sangar> still not even sure about a few parts, so :P
L563[13:39:18] <Vexatos> It's probably worse than the new item in Computronics
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L565[13:39:43] <Sangar> well, you'll probably yell "OP", but see if i care :3
L566[13:39:50] <Vexatos> D:
L567[13:39:51] <cloakable> Sangar: !
L568[13:39:55] <Vexatos> What
L569[13:40:00] <nxsupert> Ore Processing?!
L570[13:40:01] <Vexatos> I bet it exposes evil NBT data D:<
L571[13:40:03] <Sangar> (to be fair, there's nothing you won't yell "OP" at at first :X)
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L573[13:40:10] <Vexatos> nxsupert, OC already has ore processing
L574[13:40:12] <Vexatos> Sangar, https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/blob/master/src/main/java/pl/asie/computronics/item/ItemOpenComputers.java#L305-L306
L575[13:40:14] <Vexatos> best line
L576[13:40:15] <Vexatos> ever
L577[13:40:18] * vifino hugs cloakable '.'
L578[13:40:20] <Vexatos> lines*
L579[13:40:46] * cloakable wags her tails at vifino, looks as adorable as a fennec can
L580[13:40:48] <Sangar> wat
L581[13:40:55] <Vexatos> it uses the itemstack's hash code for the colour, which means that it'll change colour everytime you open a GUI or right click the thing
L582[13:41:10] <nxsupert> Why do people act so weird on IRC's so often?
L583[13:41:15] <Vexatos> unless the upgrade has been set to a colour using the API, in which case it won't change colour at all anymore
L584[13:41:27] <Vexatos> well, nxsupert
L585[13:41:30] <Vexatos> this is madness!
L586[13:41:30] *** EnderBot2 is now known as Leonidas
L587[13:41:30] <Leonidas> Madness....?
L588[13:41:31] <Leonidas> THIS.
L589[13:41:32] <Leonidas> IS.
L590[13:41:32] <Leonidas> #oc!!
L591[13:41:33] *** Leonidas is now known as EnderBot2
L592[13:41:34] <EnderBot2> Seriously, what did you think this was?
L593[13:41:40] <gamax92> pls no
L594[13:41:52] <gamax92> nxsupert: Why do you act so not weird on IRC so often?
L595[13:41:58] <Vexatos> ^ that
L596[13:42:02] <nxsupert> this is madness?
L597[13:42:03] <Vexatos> it's not that IRC is weird
L598[13:42:05] <Vexatos> this channel is weird
L599[13:42:07] <Vexatos> :P
L600[13:42:30] * cloakable stares at Sangar and the MightyPirates github.
L601[13:42:34] <Sangar> <_>
L602[13:42:50] <nxsupert> This is weirdness. Not Madness.
L603[13:42:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, is it related to exposing evil NBT data or absolute coordinates?
L604[13:42:59] <Sangar> this channel? weird? news to me
L605[13:43:14] <Sangar> Vexatos, it'll expose System.exit() ofc
L606[13:43:21] <Vexatos> but FML blocks that
L607[13:43:24] <Sangar> psssst
L608[13:43:31] <Vexatos> it force-re-routes System.exit to FMLCommonHandler.exitJava
L609[13:43:33] <Vexatos> duh
L610[13:43:47] <Vexatos> YOU CANNOT TROLL ME LIKE THIS
L611[13:43:48] <Vexatos> MWAHAHAHAHA
L612[13:43:55] <Sangar> wonder what'd happen when calling native lua's os.exit >_>
L613[13:44:04] <Vexatos> BSOD
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L615[13:44:38] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://gfycat.com/PowerfulFreshDikkops if you haven't seen it already :P
L616[13:45:28] <Sangar> i have (or i wouldn't have mentioned the robots sceen output in my reply ;))
L617[13:45:32] <Sangar> looks great
L618[13:45:55] <Sangar> who was it with those rainbow colored ingots?
L619[13:46:16] <ProbablyKodos> I want a TARDIS Blue robot
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L621[13:46:27] zsh sets mode: +v on ping
L622[13:46:46] <Wobbo> ProbablyKodos: I have seen a blua police box this summer
L623[13:46:52] <ds84182> bLua
L624[13:46:58] <ping> jesus christ i sucked at spacechem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbk_TPU15GA
L625[13:46:58] <MichiBot> ping: SpaceChem - Nothing Works | length 29s | Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0 Views: 673 | by PixelToast
L626[13:47:02] <Wobbo> s/blua/blue/
L627[13:47:02] <Kibibyte> <Wobbo> ProbablyKodos: I have seen a blue police box this summer
L628[13:47:08] <ping> i think i was 12 then
L629[13:47:20] <cloakable> Sangar: Calling os.exit causes people to switch to the horror that is ComputerCraft in survival packs :P
L630[13:47:46] <Sangar> huh, that's certainly undefined behavior
L631[13:48:08] <Wobbo> Sangar: If you document it it is no longer a bug :P
L632[13:49:01] <Sangar> yeah yeah, just rewrite reality to suit yourself :P
L633[13:49:21] <Vexatos> http://paste.asie.pl/2RZ8
L634[13:49:25] <Vexatos> that's the rainbow program
L635[13:49:28] <Vexatos> in case anyone cares
L636[13:49:39] <Wobbo> Sangar: Its the vicotrian way!
L637[13:50:09] <Sangar> Vexatos, throw it on oppm :P
L638[13:50:15] <Wobbo> s/vicotrian/victorian/
L639[13:50:15] <Kibibyte> <Wobbo> Sangar: Its the victorian way!
L640[13:50:16] <Sangar> call it rainbow
L641[13:50:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, it's so ugly ;_;
L642[13:50:24] <Vexatos> I'd rather call it rainbot
L643[13:50:32] <Sangar> :P
L644[13:50:51] <Wobbo> Vexatos: call it unicoren
L645[13:50:59] <Wobbo> s/ren/rn/
L646[13:51:00] <Kibibyte> <Wobbo> Vexatos: call it unicorn
L647[13:51:10] <Wobbo> I have typtyfus. :(
L648[13:51:11] <Vexatos> Sangar it already is on OPPM
L649[13:51:13] <Vexatos> somewhat
L650[13:51:15] <Vexatos> >>
L651[13:51:19] <Vexatos> oppm install asiebin
L652[13:51:23] <Vexatos> asiebin get 2RZ8 rainbow.lua
L653[13:51:39] <Vexatos> (totally not a pastebin clone)
L654[13:51:47] <Sangar> that's cheating :X
L655[13:51:48] <Vexatos> (totally didn't steal my own code for that)
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L657[13:52:48] <cloakable> I am out of Malibu, sadness
L658[13:53:09] <dangranos> huh
L659[13:53:18] <dangranos> now it builds chrome's v8
L660[13:53:42] <dangranos> i really hope that it will fly
L661[13:54:24] <Skye> Sangar, how hard would it be to add emoji support?
L662[13:54:54] <Vexatos> Skye, if the unifont package contains them
L663[13:54:55] <Vexatos> they work
L664[13:55:57] <Skye> :S
L665[13:56:03] <Skye> OC needs to support more fonts
L666[13:56:19] <ProbablyKodos> I'd settle for SGA support
L667[13:56:32] <dangranos> Skye, well, it does..
L668[13:56:36] <dangranos> iirc
L669[13:57:19] <Sangar> yeah, you "just" have to throw in a custom unifont.bin (extension?) in a resource pack :P
L670[13:57:23] <Sangar> .hex?
L671[13:57:29] <gamax92> hex
L672[13:57:39] <Sangar> or use the old texture based font renderer :P
L673[13:58:11] <vifino> ocmoji
L674[13:59:16] <ProbablyKodos> OpenMoji
L675[13:59:24] <dangranos> heh
L676[14:00:02] <ProbablyKodos> Is wikipedia down for anyone else
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L678[14:00:20] <MajGenRelativity> home slice mcskillet burrito!
L679[14:00:28] <ds84182> #lua #"abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789_-"
L680[14:00:28] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 64
L681[14:00:34] <ds84182> #lua 64^16
L682[14:00:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 7.9228162514264e+28
L683[14:00:41] <ds84182> hmm, so a lot
L684[14:01:15] <MajGenRelativity> yes
L685[14:04:04] <Skye> Sangar, but I'm lazy! :P
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L687[14:07:04] * ProbablyKodos is anxious for the unknown new feature now :x
L688[14:08:59] <ds84182> Wait, what unknown new feature
L689[14:10:13] <ProbablyKodos> http://puu.sh/jNv1M/0a9a58dad8.png
L690[14:10:15] <ProbablyKodos> er
L691[14:10:16] <ProbablyKodos> not that
L692[14:10:57] <ProbablyKodos> Ffs, webchat won't let me copy
L693[14:13:19] <tiin57> I wonder if it's possible for an OC computer to be linked to armor
L694[14:13:28] <tiin57> and have some sort of screen armor
L695[14:13:50] <ProbablyKodos> wat
L696[14:14:12] <tiin57> Armor with a dynamic texture that can be modified through an OC Lua API\
L697[14:16:37] <ProbablyKodos> Gewd luck
L698[14:19:16] <dangranos> damn chrome
L699[14:19:19] <dangranos> *chromium
L700[14:19:23] <dangranos> BUILD FASTER
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L703[14:27:54] <MajGenRelativity> I just automated my big reactor
L704[14:28:02] <MajGenRelativity> Finally, I don't keep suffering power outages
L705[14:28:24] <Vexatos> oppm install bigreactors-control
L706[14:28:57] <ProbablyKodos> When I get back to IL, I'll likely stick reactor automation into my capbank monitor program
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L709[14:30:30] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos, thank you for the suggestion, but I meant partial automation
L710[14:30:38] <MajGenRelativity> It automatically reprocesses cyanite
L711[14:30:53] <Vexatos> oooh
L712[14:33:13] <MajGenRelativity> I also took a bath with soap, and I no longer break my sanity checker
L713[14:34:29] <nxsupert> Kon'nichiwa.
L714[14:35:12] <MajGenRelativity> eyyyyy nxsupert
L715[14:35:15] <MajGenRelativity> How's life?
L716[14:35:30] <nxsupert> One of these days someone is going to reply to me in Japanese. And i am not going to have a clue what they said.
L717[14:35:55] <MajGenRelativity> Indeed
L718[14:36:26] <MajGenRelativity> あなたは、バナナの皮で滑っ
L719[14:36:47] <MajGenRelativity> That day is today
L720[14:39:11] <MajGenRelativity> I'm scouring the mining dimension for a hungry node
L721[14:41:00] <cloakable> Vexatos: That's lame, real OC players roll their own :D
L722[14:44:28] * ProbablyKodos flails about
L723[14:45:10] * MajGenRelativity throws a life tube to ProbablyKodos
L724[15:00:39] <Vexatos> cloakable, I know
L725[15:00:53] <Vexatos> that's why I did it
L726[15:00:54] <Vexatos> (I actually did it on request)
L727[15:01:34] <Vexatos> MajGenRelativity, that's some incredibly random Japanese though
L728[15:01:52] <MajGenRelativity> Wait, what?
L729[15:06:11] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos, what do you mean?
L730[15:06:13] <cloakable> Vexatos: lol is that why the program doesn't run the reactor efficiently? :D
L731[15:06:30] <cloakable> I approve in that case
L732[15:06:40] <Vexatos> That's why you can set it to whatever you want
L733[15:06:44] <Vexatos> the default values are... default
L734[15:07:49] <S3> YAY!
L735[15:07:51] <S3> laptop is fixed.
L736[15:08:01] <cloakable> My program doesn't -need- default values, at least for passive gen. It'll run the reactor at the control rod level needed to achieve equilibrium.
L737[15:08:27] <Vexatos> my program doesn't even care about rod level at passive mode
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L739[15:08:59] * MajGenRelativity just wants to find a hungry node
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L741[15:11:06] <DanielWaterhorse> Hello all. New OC user here. I am wondering how to craft an Opencomputers manual in survival mode. I have been looking for the recipe in the wiki and cannot find it. I can make the openOS floppy with the one I start with, but I need another one to make the Lua Bios
L742[15:11:10] <cloakable> Vexatos: controlling control rods in passive means you can achieve absurd efficiencies
L743[15:11:31] <cloakable> DanielWaterhorse: microchip and book
L744[15:11:35] <Vexatos> who cares about efficiency when you play Big Reactors with debug configs like almost everyone does
L745[15:11:49] * cloakable snorks
L746[15:11:50] <DanielWaterhorse> Thank you, cloakable
L747[15:13:05] <cloakable> Vexatos: I have my configs tweaked to make Big Reactors hard. Not as hard as Mekanism fusion, but harder than Adv Generators. :D
L748[15:13:09] <DanielWaterhorse> Just out of curiosity, where is that information available? I could not find it in the wiki and the OC manual's page on the OC manual does not give you the recipe either :I
L749[15:13:33] <Vexatos> Craft Guide or NotEnoughItems should both tell you the recipe
L750[15:13:43] <cloakable> DanielWaterhorse: YouTube for me, sadly
L751[15:13:45] <DanielWaterhorse> Oh. I don't use either of those
L752[15:14:18] <ProbablyKodos> If you're playing Modded MC and you're not using either of those, you're doing it wrong
L753[15:14:41] <cloakable> NEI is pretty awesome
L754[15:14:47] <DanielWaterhorse> I'm pretty new playing MC modded
L755[15:14:57] <DanielWaterhorse> I was satisfied with Vanilla for a very long time
L756[15:15:47] <MajGenRelativity> modded is the way to go
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L758[15:16:15] <DanielWaterhorse> There are definitely some mods I have now that would be hard to play without.
L759[15:16:48] <DanielWaterhorse> Hopefully 1.9 will be mostly compatible
L760[15:17:18] <MajGenRelativity> yeah
L761[15:17:30] <MajGenRelativity> DanielWaterhorse, I own a modded survival server
L762[15:18:00] <MajGenRelativity> would you be interested in trying it out?
L763[15:20:37] <DanielWaterhorse> Sure, that would be cool :) At the moment the only multiplayer I've done is a server my friend runs, and since he almost never plays, it's practically single player anyway @.@
L764[15:21:51] <MajGenRelativity> let me PM you with more details
L765[15:22:07] <DanielWaterhorse> Cool :)
L766[15:22:20] <cloakable> Servers have the advantage you can build a chunkloader and have 24 hours to run processes >.>
L767[15:22:47] <cloakable> *coughcouch Railcraft Immersive Engineering*
L768[15:23:04] <DanielWaterhorse> I saw that capability in the mod, which is awesome because... I actually have a second account I was using to keep chunks loaded v.v
L769[15:23:10] * Lizzy needs to have a shower
L770[15:23:26] <MajGenRelativity> DanielWaterhorse, i sent you a PM
L771[15:23:44] * Lizzy carefully sets Temia and vifino sleeping next to each other and wanders off to have a shower
L772[15:24:15] * vifino wakes up, notices Lizzy is leaving and follows her
L773[15:24:28] * Lizzy sighs
L774[15:24:41] <cloakable> :o
L775[15:24:53] * Temia flops over without any sort of blanket or pillow. muuu =^=
L776[15:25:54] <ProbablyKodos> Holy shit people cannot read
L777[15:26:00] <ProbablyKodos> (Reddit thing)
L778[15:33:14] <Temia> Hm?
L779[15:35:35] <ProbablyKodos> Hang on, I'll get the threae
L780[15:35:37] <ProbablyKodos> thread
L781[15:36:25] <ProbablyKodos> https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/3koh54/anyone_hoping_there_will_be_a_multipurpose/cuz97fn
L782[15:40:45] * cloakable serves as Temia pillow. Muu.
L783[15:40:51] <Temia> :o
L784[15:40:55] * Temia snuggles on Cloakable. =w=
L785[15:41:27] * cloakable is warm and soft, may also be bed too.
L786[15:41:30] <Wobbo> Tis just like a giant bedroom here from time to time
L787[15:41:48] <jhagrid77> Wobbo: seems like it lol
L788[15:42:21] <Temia> Also I am having a blast with the most recent Pokémon news. https://twitter.com/prerisoft/status/642795211056254976
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L791[15:46:40] <jhagrid77> Pong lives in MI Ping lives in Canada......................
L792[15:47:03] <Izaya> MI? Since when is there a country called MI?
L793[15:47:07] <ds84182> They have the same host mask...
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L795[15:47:20] <ds84182> * [ping] (~pixel@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net): realname
L796[15:47:21] <pong> jhagrid77, ?
L797[15:47:31] <pong> im pretty close to canada
L798[15:47:49] <Wobbo> MI is Minnesota?
L799[15:47:55] <ds84182> Michigan
L800[15:47:56] <jhagrid77> pong: im bored so im playing around
L801[15:48:13] <Izaya> why not just say the full name?
L802[15:48:18] <jhagrid77> pong: State or Michigan?
L803[15:48:19] <Izaya> it makes no sense to the rest of the world
L804[15:48:20] <ds84182> Minnesota is most likely Mn
L805[15:48:23] <Izaya> just like imperial
L806[15:48:23] <Wobbo> You had to pick 50 state names that did not clash, and you even fucked that up?
L807[15:48:27] <Izaya> oh wait
L808[15:48:49] <ds84182> Yep, MN
L809[15:49:00] <Izaya> apparently the rest of the world is meant to understand imperial because two countries use it
L810[15:49:01] <Wobbo> Izaya: I normally shorten Drenthe to DR as well.
L811[15:49:37] <Izaya> Wobbo, I shorten Australia to AU and New Zeland to NZ, but those are both TLDs
L812[15:49:52] <ds84182> It's most likely because one came first
L813[15:49:59] <Izaya> You don't see me shortening New South Wales to NSW
L814[15:50:02] <Izaya> and NSW is not a TLD
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L816[15:50:36] <Wobbo> Izaya: I don't feel like typing the name of the province every single time I need to give the town I lived in.
L817[15:51:08] <ds84182> Ok, it was added in 1858, while Michigan was added in 1837
L818[15:51:17] <Izaya> Wobbo, but you wouldn't expect me to understand DR = Drenthe, though, would you?
L819[15:51:20] <Wobbo> Izaya: I sometimes also shorten it when I speak.
L820[15:51:27] <Wobbo> Izaya: Not you, no
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L822[15:51:45] <Wobbo> Izaya: Dutch people, yes.
L823[15:51:46] <Izaya> Americans seem to think that the whole world knows the 54 states of america
L824[15:51:59] <ds84182> Izaya: Uh, no we don't
L825[15:52:05] <Wobbo> Izaya: wait, where did those last three come from?
L826[15:52:41] <ds84182> And also, great use of a blanket statment.
L827[15:52:45] <ds84182> *statement.
L828[15:54:21] <jhagrid77> Wobbo: im wondering that too
L829[15:54:25] <Izaya> Wobbo, point proven, I don't know american geography
L830[15:54:56] <Izaya> ds84182, don't worry, I'm complaining in the general direction of america, not at anyone in particular
L831[15:55:18] <Izaya> also uh
L832[15:55:19] <Wobbo> Izaya: It simple, there are 50 states + Puerto Rico
L833[15:55:25] <Izaya> I haven't slept in 2 days
L834[15:55:27] <ds84182> Well, you don't see me abbreviating everything, so that statement is false.
L835[15:55:30] <Izaya> so I'm probably talking shit
L836[15:55:38] <Izaya> Wobbo, Hawaii?
L837[15:55:50] <Wobbo> Izaya: Its in the 50 states
L838[15:55:57] <Izaya> whaaaaa
L839[15:56:06] <Wobbo> Hawaii is a state
L840[15:56:14] <Izaya> I haven't been lied to because I never learned this
L841[15:56:19] <Izaya> but there you gp
L842[15:56:21] <Izaya> go*
L843[15:56:46] <Wobbo> It has been since the Hawaiian "anschluss"
L844[15:57:10] <Wobbo> But unlike the anschluss that one wasn't peaceful
L845[15:57:18] <ds84182> And this is a place where I claim the bullsitz. In school here we learn about every fricken country.
L846[15:57:39] <ds84182> Thanks Mr. AssBackwardsEducationSystem.
L847[15:57:47] <Izaya> and in Australia they don't teach you shit :D
L848[15:58:17] <Wobbo> Izaya: You're all convincts anyway
L849[15:58:22] <jhagrid77> So a oc question, anyone got a really good map or something they could share? I'm trying to find anything good for OC but can't find anything.
L850[15:59:02] <Izaya> Wobbo, what's the joke? "What would they say if you sent a bunch of criminals to another continent for 50 years?" "G'day, mate."
L851[15:59:53] <ds84182> "What would they say if you sent a bunch of people into space for 50 years?" "<silence>"
L852[15:59:57] <ds84182> People die in space.
L853[16:00:25] <Wobbo> People die in australia as well, therfore: Australia == space :P
L854[16:00:25] <ds84182> Unless you give them stuff to live on, then it will be "What the fuck."
L855[16:00:41] <ds84182> Space Australia?
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L857[16:00:54] <Lizzy> Spaustralia
L858[16:01:32] <ds84182> Australia needs to be 'Mericanized. Aus'merica.
L859[16:01:50] * vifino offers Lizzy now to piggyback him
L860[16:01:52] <Lizzy> Na
L861[16:01:57] * Lizzy jumps on vifino
L862[16:02:00] <Wobbo> ds84182: Nothing needs to be 'Mericanized. Scandinvia FTW!
L863[16:02:11] <vifino> :3
L864[16:02:20] <ds84182> Well, we already Europeanized everything.
L865[16:02:28] <ds84182> So we should Mericanize everything
L866[16:02:39] <ds84182> Obama for World President
L867[16:02:45] <nxsupert> Well. We may have a socialist as are next PM. So we most certainly can't be 'Mericanized.
L868[16:02:56] <nxsupert> s/are/our
L869[16:02:56] <Kibibyte> <nxsupert> Well. We may have a socialist as our next PM. So we most certainly can't be 'Mericanized.
L870[16:03:13] <cloakable> ds84182: nah, I'm not fond of right-wingers
L871[16:03:31] <cloakable> ;p
L872[16:03:37] <Wobbo> nxsupert: We are more socialist than America but we are still Americanizing :(
L873[16:04:01] <ds84182> Don't worry, if your government turns into a communist government (by some inside job by someone in the FBI ;)), you'll get mericanized in about 60 years
L874[16:04:40] <nxsupert> I don't think Corbyn is a communist. A socialist? Yes. But not a communist.
L875[16:04:52] <nxsupert> The Pope is a communist though :P
L876[16:05:04] <cloakable> nxsupert: Corbyn is a flaming communist by American standards :P
L877[16:05:17] <ds84182> WE MUST SAVE YOUR COUNTRY
L878[16:05:24] <ds84182> EAAAAAAGLE, GOOOOOOO!
L879[16:05:30] <cloakable> D:
L880[16:05:35] <ds84182> EAAAAAAGLE, USE SAVING ATTACK!
L881[16:05:39] <Wobbo> Unleash the Lions!
L882[16:05:42] <ds84182> CA CAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
L883[16:05:54] <nxsupert> No. Because Communism also requires super illiberalism.
L884[16:06:04] <cloakable> ds84182: WE HAVE PRIVATE RAILWAYS (for now) LEAVE US ALONE
L885[16:06:20] <ds84182> OH NO! THEY LACK PUBLIC TRANSPORT
L886[16:06:26] <ds84182> WE MUST GIVE THEM SUBWAYS
L887[16:06:29] <jhagrid77> cloakable: know any good maps and or 1.8 mods for OC?
L888[16:06:33] <ds84182> AND WITH THAT, JARED FOOGLES
L889[16:06:48] <Wobbo> ds84182: I spoke a few americans over summer, they were amazed by the amount of trains :P
L890[16:07:05] <cloakable> ds84182: YOU HAVE COMMUNIST RAILWAYS WE MUST INVADE YOU I'M SORRY HERE COMES ENGLAND
L891[16:07:07] <nxsupert> France already has a socialist government. invade them instead.
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L893[16:07:23] <ds84182> We used to have a lot of trains like you, but then we took a highway to the knee
L894[16:07:29] <Wobbo> cloakable: who operates your trains? :P
L895[16:07:47] <nxsupert> In fact. Lets not waste any time. Just invade Russia.
L896[16:07:49] <cloakable> Wobbo: capitalism :(
L897[16:07:56] <nxsupert> *Starts world war 3*
L898[16:07:58] * Wobbo looks to Germany in the east, sees trains in Germany
L899[16:08:11] <Wobbo> nxsupert: I'm in favor!
L900[16:08:22] <ds84182> It would be fucked up if England put us in a binding contract at the end of the American Revolution so it's able to reclaim us as a colony at any time it feels.
L901[16:08:25] <Wobbo> cloakable: I mean which company :P
L902[16:09:37] <cloakable> Wobbo: Lots. :P There's not One Company Running UK Trains :P
L903[16:10:42] <nxsupert> Well. We can technically reclaim Australia , Canada , New Zealand and a few other countries.
L904[16:10:52] <Wobbo> cloakable: I know that, the Dutch railway company will liberate you when EU regulation is in place, but which company runs the trains in your area?
L905[16:11:50] <cloakable> Wobbo: the main one I use is First Great Western
L906[16:12:43] <Wobbo> cloakable: No, the Dutch railway company won't liberate you yet :(
L907[16:13:24] <cloakable> Wobbo: But First run both the trains and the busses and are shit D:
L908[16:14:31] <surferconor425> First are always the ones with the really old shitty trains
L909[16:16:30] <Wobbo> I did travel with the Scottish Rail over summer, they were pretty good
L910[16:16:44] <Wobbo> So, move to Scotland! :P
L911[16:17:26] <cloakable> I like Bristol culture!
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L913[16:25:48] <Wobbo> Sweden actually has balls! :D https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/3kow7v/sweden_wants_russia_to_explain_threats_over_nato/
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L919[17:17:03] <ProbablyKodos> Isn't the queen of England also queen of like half a dozen other places?
L920[17:17:32] <Vex|Mobile> she is the queen of the Commonwealth
L921[17:17:59] <Vex|Mobile> includes stuff like Australia, new zealand and canada
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L924[17:18:04] <Wobbo> ProbablyKodos: The English Queen is Queen of the world. She only allows other monacharcs to "rule" their countries
L925[17:18:17] <Wobbo> ProbablyKodos: She is also immortal.
L926[17:18:41] <Vex|Mobile> .wobbo
L927[17:18:41] <^v> Vex|Mobile, WobbooooooooWooooobbooooooooWoooooooobboooooooooWoooooooooobbooWooooooobbooooWoooooobbooooooooooWobbooo
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L929[17:19:57] <ProbablyKodos> Now make it wobbo in rainbow
L930[17:20:13] <Vex|Mobile> .w Vexatos
L931[17:20:13] <^v> Vex|Mobile, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylcyclopentadienyl_Manganese_Tricarbonyl
L932[17:20:16] <Vex|Mobile> bye now
L933[17:20:17] <Wobbo> .pipe wobbo | rainbow
L934[17:20:17] <^v> Wobbo, WobboooooWooobbooWoooooobboWoooooooobboooooooooWooooooooobbooooooooWooooobbooooooooooWooooobboooWobboWoobbooo
L935[17:20:30] <Wobbo> Bye!
L936[17:20:33] <Wobbo> .w Wobbo
L937[17:20:33] <^v> Wobbo, Not found. did you want "holo"?
L938[17:20:34] * Sangar yawns
L939[17:20:41] <Sangar> i'm off, gnight all! o/
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L941[17:21:14] <Wobbo> I'm joining Vex and Snagar, bye!
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L945[17:38:28] <jhagrid77> Anyone good with interuptering crashes?
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L949[17:44:43] <ProbablyKodos> jhagrid77: crashlog pls
L950[17:44:53] <S3> My laptop keeps shutting down randomly
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L953[17:49:39] <jhagrid77> http://pastebin.com/W7wCzGQp
L954[17:49:54] <jhagrid77> If anyone could help me understand whats wrong here please do so
L955[17:55:17] <Mimiru> jhagrid77, http://git.io/vZoAC
L956[17:55:29] <Mimiru> do you have AdvancedSystemsManager or wtfever it is?
L957[17:55:36] <ProbablyKodos> Yes he does
L958[17:55:57] <ProbablyKodos> But isn't that just compat and not a dep
L959[17:57:21] <jhagrid77> if anyone would like the list of mods i can give the screenshot link
L960[17:57:46] <ProbablyKodos> Uhh
L961[17:57:56] <ProbablyKodos> You have Computronics Src and IC2 API src zips in your mods folder
L962[17:58:18] <ProbablyKodos> err tronics api
L963[17:58:36] <Mimiru> ProbablyKodos, think about all the idiots who do compat by just shipping APIs, or by calling code and never checking it.
L964[17:58:45] <jhagrid77> yea, the only mods i ever used was 1.6.4 cause all the good were that version
L965[17:58:47] <Mimiru> You can never rule out that a mod author did something stupid.
L966[17:59:04] <ProbablyKodos> Indeedf
L967[17:59:28] <ProbablyKodos> So, anyone wanna discuss/guess what the new feature will be :3
L968[17:59:48] <Lizzy> nope, i'm going to sleep
L969[17:59:56] * Lizzy dozes off to sleep
L970[18:01:24] <jhagrid77> so what can i do to fix this error?
L971[18:01:57] <ProbablyKodos> Binary debugging
L972[18:02:10] <ProbablyKodos> Pull out half your mods, if it works, plug half of those back in
L973[18:02:21] <ProbablyKodos> If it still works, plug half of what's left in
L974[18:02:24] <ProbablyKodos> Repeat until crash
L975[18:02:28] <jhagrid77> ok thanks
L976[18:02:42] <jhagrid77> alot better then 1 by 1 like i use to and i had over 300
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L978[18:10:21] <ProbablyKodos> I really hate this laptop
L979[18:12:22] <ProbablyKodos> BIOS battery is dead, I'm pretty sure
L980[18:12:29] <ProbablyKodos> It thinks it's 12:37 PM on Sept 10
L981[18:15:05] <jhagrid77> well seeing as you know computers you have probably edited the bios and such so i would be of little help
L982[18:15:37] <jhagrid77> but i fixed my problem i had to aadd waila
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L987[18:30:46] <jhagrid77> so did someone say theres gonna be another update for OC?
L988[18:39:32] <jhagrid77> uhh. i hate asking noob questions
L989[18:39:55] <jhagrid77> but uhh, is there anyway to make the wording better on the onscreen monitor
L990[18:40:29] <jhagrid77> fhttp://snag.gy/Al7YC.jpg
L991[18:40:51] <jhagrid77> http://snag.gy/Al7YC.jpg
L992[18:42:39] <Mimiru> Your ingame resolution is too big for your actual resolution.
L993[18:43:03] <jhagrid77> ahh
L994[18:43:12] <jhagrid77> so i should lower it to my max?
L995[18:43:24] <Mimiru> you can change the resolution of the OC computer with the resolution program
L996[18:43:33] <Mimiru> something like resolution 100 80
L997[18:43:34] <Mimiru> or something
L998[18:46:57] <jhagrid77> i can do 160 50
L999[18:47:50] <Mimiru> gpu.setResolution(160, 50) in an auto run will set that on boot
L1000[18:48:24] <Mimiru> you'll of course have to local c = require("component") local gpu = c.gpu
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L1003[18:54:01] <jhagrid77> so um how do i set for it to run at boot?
L1004[18:57:35] <Mimiru> you name the file autorun.lua
L1005[18:59:56] <gamax92> :/ minecraft crashed just as it finished loading a huge pack
L1006[19:01:24] <jhagrid77> XD my best resolution is 144 39
L1007[19:01:54] <jhagrid77> "file system is read only"
L1008[19:07:24] <jhagrid77> wait i got it
L1009[19:08:35] <jhagrid77> Mimiru: "File system is read only"
L1010[19:08:58] <Ekoserin> Install it. You can't write directly to the OpenOS floppy.
L1011[19:09:03] <Mimiru> Then, the file system is read only. Have you installed a harddrive and ran the OpenOS installer from a floppy?
L1012[19:10:01] <jhagrid77> yes, just took floppy out so lets see
L1013[19:10:38] <jhagrid77> yep, sorry for my stupidity
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L1015[19:13:17] <jhagrid77> so what order is everything put in, like I said sorry for my stupidity, not much of a coder although I could have lots of experience with lots of them (Python, Ruby C/C++, HTML/CSS PHP, Javascript and Java
L1016[19:15:27] <jhagrid77> Mimiru: Is there anyone I can message in particular so I'm not hogging/spamming the chat with my questions and such?
L1017[19:15:27] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L1018[19:15:55] <Mimiru> Err.. no not really
L1019[19:16:00] <Mimiru> use the channel, it's why it's here
L1020[19:16:53] <jhagrid77> well i see on the wiki
L1021[19:16:55] <jhagrid77> Resource Limits OpenComputers have a limited amount of disk space and RAM, which can be configured in the OpenComputers config to your likings.
L1022[19:17:15] <jhagrid77> where can i edit the config, I have gone into the config file and cant find anything
L1023[19:18:03] <Mimiru> config/OpenComputers.cfg should be rather.... extensive
L1024[19:18:45] <Mimiru> line 198ish will be the ram size array 192 to 1024, don't add to the array, just change the existing values
L1025[19:19:10] <Mimiru> line 385ish is the hddSizes array, again, don't add, edit
L1026[19:19:25] <Mimiru> ram array is "ramSizes"
L1027[19:20:23] <jhagrid77> ok ima get notepad++ lol brb
L1028[19:21:13] <Mimiru> It's ONLY 1357 lines (in my older config) lol
L1029[19:21:21] <jhagrid77> lol
L1030[19:21:34] <jhagrid77> Wait are you the dude in the OpenComputer videos?
L1031[19:21:42] <Mimiru> I'm no dude. :P
L1032[19:21:50] <Mimiru> That's probably Sangar
L1033[19:21:54] <Mimiru> or one of his friends..
L1034[19:22:33] <jhagrid77> Ahh, it was the creator, the cameraman and the random dude (If I remember correctly_
L1035[19:23:47] <Mimiru> Yeah Sangar is the author
L1036[19:24:09] <jhagrid77> so .minecraft/config opencomputers.cfg
L1037[19:24:27] <jhagrid77> or .minecraft/config/opencomputers opencomputers.cfg
L1038[19:24:46] <jhagrid77> 1st nvm cause second is settings.cfg
L1039[19:26:27] <jhagrid77> Mimiru: Whats the maximum size I can put the ram and hard drives on?
L1040[19:27:19] <Mimiru> Yes...
L1041[19:27:20] <Mimiru> :p
L1042[19:27:23] * Mimiru shrugs
L1043[19:28:23] <jhagrid77> Ill take that as the maximum size I can make that wont break the game
L1044[19:28:36] <jhagrid77> When I find it would you like that information?
L1045[19:29:33] <jhagrid77> Mimiru: So Which order do I put in the Resolution stuff?
L1046[19:30:30] <Mimiru> local c = require("component")
L1047[19:30:31] <Mimiru> local gpu = c.gpu
L1048[19:30:31] <Mimiru> gpu.setResolution(144, 39)
L1049[19:30:54] <jhagrid77> Thanks,
L1050[19:31:10] <jhagrid77> I see no indenttations thank god
L1051[19:31:23] <Mimiru> lua gives no fucks about indentation
L1052[19:31:35] <Mimiru> you can add them for readability but there is no requirement
L1053[19:31:42] * Mimiru glares at python
L1054[19:31:49] <jhagrid77> ahh see i have no coding skills yet
L1055[19:32:34] <Mimiru> I've been working in python recently doing modifications to a IRC webchat client
L1056[19:33:04] <jhagrid77> Thats cool
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L1060[19:55:08] <jhagrid77> # Number of physical platters to pretend a disk has in unmanaged mode. This # controls seek times, in how it emulates sectors overlapping (thus sharing # a common head position for access). hddPlatterCounts=[ 2, 4, 6 ]
L1061[19:55:18] <jhagrid77> whats this deal with?
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L1063[19:58:58] <Mimiru> That's for Unmanaged disks... I wouldn't bother unless you know what they do :P
L1064[19:59:17] <jhagrid77> nope NEXT
L1065[20:03:15] <jhagrid77> Is there a way to change the maximum number of components that can be connected?
L1066[20:03:55] <ProbablyKodos> Uhh
L1067[20:04:47] <Mimiru> jhagrid77, cpuComponentCount
L1068[20:05:45] <jhagrid77> Thanks, I'm starting to like editing this lol
L1069[20:06:20] <jhagrid77> lets see 256*300 some
L1070[20:06:30] <jhagrid77> 3119 i belive it was
L1071[20:06:38] <jhagrid77> olus 20
L1072[20:06:56] <ProbablyKodos> #lua 256 * 300
L1073[20:07:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 76800
L1074[20:08:55] <ProbablyKodos> Fucking hell
L1075[20:09:05] <ProbablyKodos> I need an internet radio site that doesn't require me to make an account
L1076[20:42:12] <jhagrid77> If I edit the number of supported components will it show on the proccessor?
L1077[20:42:32] <ProbablyKodos> Try it and see =P
L1078[20:42:42] <ProbablyKodos> brb
L1079[20:56:48] <jhagrid77> whats the highest anone has gotten the ram and hard drive to? I save it and its there but when i launch minecraft it reverts back
L1080[21:01:46] <ProbablyKodos> What launcher do you use
L1081[21:16:19] <jhagrid77> Forge
L1082[21:16:29] <jhagrid77> or what do you mean by launcher?
L1083[21:16:59] <ProbablyKodos> MultiMC, Vanilla Launcher, etc
L1084[21:18:36] <jhagrid77> Mineshafter Launcher so pretty much Vanilla
L1085[21:18:42] <dangranos> wat
L1086[21:19:13] <ProbablyKodos> Mineshafter?
L1087[21:19:16] <ProbablyKodos> Sounds dirty
L1088[21:19:36] <Mimiru> Mineshafter...
L1089[21:19:45] <dangranos> cracked launcher
L1090[21:19:50] <Mimiru> Yeah I'm aware.
L1091[21:19:53] <ProbablyKodos> Oh, pirated?
L1092[21:19:56] <dangranos> mhm
L1093[21:20:09] <jhagrid77> Yea. I don't have the money at all for MC
L1094[21:20:12] <dangranos> besically a vanila that accepts any auth info i guess
L1095[21:20:12] <ProbablyKodos> Good luck
L1096[21:20:23] <Mimiru> Welp, there goes any desire for me to help. gl;hf
L1097[21:20:38] <jhagrid77> Shall I leave?
L1098[21:20:47] <dangranos> dunno
L1099[21:20:53] <ProbablyKodos> You don't usually get tech support for pirated MC here, or in most mod channels
L1100[21:20:55] <dangranos> why are you here, btw?
L1101[21:21:03] <ProbablyKodos> He had the crash earlier
L1102[21:22:00] <jhagrid77> dangranos: I'm here because I was hoping to gain more knowledge about OC becuase the wikis and forums I found dont spread too much light nor the videos either
L1103[21:22:39] <dangranos> >earlier
L1104[21:22:52] <ProbablyKodos> ~w
L1105[21:22:52] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's wiki bot.
L1106[21:22:53] <dangranos> i have a backlog spanning for 2 hours, nothing about crash
L1107[21:22:58] <ProbablyKodos> ~w things
L1108[21:22:58] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-string
L1109[21:23:01] <ProbablyKodos> No
L1110[21:23:08] <jhagrid77> If you guys would like I will leave and won't come back till I get a legit version of MC
L1111[21:23:11] <ProbablyKodos> ocdoc needs an index shortcut
L1112[21:23:32] <ProbablyKodos> jhagrid77: you're welcome to stay, but don't expect much help with pirated mc
L1113[21:23:34] <dangranos> ~w index
L1114[21:23:34] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-next
L1115[21:23:37] <Mimiru> dangranos, 4ish hours
L1116[21:23:41] <dangranos> ocdoc.cil.li
L1117[21:23:44] <dangranos> here you go
L1118[21:24:49] <dangranos> jhagrid77, you could try looking at other's programs, and most of ocdoc can be used for latest OC
L1119[21:25:20] <ProbablyKodos> I have a few things here https://pastebin.com/u/Kodos_Atoz
L1120[21:25:38] <ProbablyKodos> Anything marked Lua Syntax
L1121[21:25:45] <ProbablyKodos> Click anything else at your own risk
L1122[21:26:02] <dangranos> and there is openprograms org on github
L1123[21:26:24] <dangranos> ProbablyKodos, i clicked, wtf
L1124[21:26:37] <ProbablyKodos> You opened one of Lena's stocks, didn't you
L1125[21:27:12] <dangranos> mhm
L1126[21:27:17] <ProbablyKodos> I did warn you
L1127[21:27:22] <dangranos> is that a bot
L1128[21:27:28] <dangranos> or some bot extension?
L1129[21:27:34] <ProbablyKodos> sce
L1130[21:27:34] <ProbablyKodos> sec
L1131[21:27:49] <ProbablyKodos> Not a bot, just my ex
L1132[21:27:54] <dangranos> oh
L1133[21:27:54] <ProbablyKodos> Looooong story
L1134[21:28:01] <dangranos> now that is hilarious
L1135[21:28:06] <ProbablyKodos> She is a riot
L1136[21:28:08] <ProbablyKodos> But she's batshit
L1137[21:29:21] <ProbablyKodos> Going shopping in a bit. If I randomly log out, mother-in-law took over the computer and closed my tab
L1138[21:30:22] <sugoi> ProbablyKodos: did you find the vcomponent easy to use?
L1139[21:31:13] <ProbablyKodos> sugoi: I haven't messed with it yet, I plan on doing much with it when I get back to IL
L1140[21:31:26] <sugoi> oh i thought your plan was to use it on this trip
L1141[21:31:29] <ProbablyKodos> THe plan was to play MC out here, but I can't play it on the linux netbook (1GB RAM Total)
L1142[21:31:53] <ProbablyKodos> I -might- try it on this laptop but I'm gonna ask the inlaws if I can install MC first
L1143[21:41:30] <ProbablyKodos> TIL that when Linus Torvalds named the development tool "git", he called it that becauswe "I name all my projects after myself."
L1144[21:42:08] <Temia> Yep :D
L1145[21:43:45] <ProbablyKodos> When I get home, I'm gonna copy the builds I saw on reddit today because they were awesome :3
L1146[21:50:37] <sugoi> mm?
L1147[21:50:51] <ProbablyKodos> http://i.imgur.com/4Bz7ntc.png and http://imgur.com/a/Dl8l5
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L1150[21:54:32] <Ekoserin> Neat
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L1152[21:55:09] <Ekoserin> Disunity, it should not take that long to copy a single texture.
L1153[21:56:10] <sugoi> dang
L1154[21:56:15] <dangranos> hi
L1155[21:56:24] <sugoi> next time i play a world, i think shall not have quarries nor ae
L1156[21:56:38] <sugoi> everytime i have those i go insane on harvesting and automating
L1157[21:56:53] <sugoi> seeing those images makes me want to just make it all feel natural
L1158[21:57:18] <ProbablyKodos> I like using IE's excavator
L1159[21:57:23] <ProbablyKodos> But the core sampling is a pain
L1160[21:57:47] <sugoi> in my latest world i have 18 million redstone and 1.5 billion cobble
L1161[21:57:50] <sugoi> among other stuff
L1162[21:58:11] <ProbablyKodos> I don't plan on having an insane amount of cobble, but I do plan on doing a full cobbleworks
L1163[21:58:18] <sugoi> and 100s of crafts defined, with ~400 machines for fast distributed processing
L1164[21:58:28] <ProbablyKodos> If anyone is on MC atm and is using immersive engineering, lmk so I can have you test something
L1165[21:58:34] <sugoi> all i'm saying is .. there's nothing for me in that world now
L1166[21:58:47] <sugoi> never used IE
L1167[21:58:52] <ProbablyKodos> You should
L1168[21:58:53] <ProbablyKodos> Fun mod
L1169[21:59:00] <sugoi> nor have it. but all the mention of it here i do plan on trying it out
L1170[22:00:35] <sugoi> gamax92: i read through your vcomp code. i like it. question though, how are components supposed to load?
L1171[22:00:56] <sugoi> e.g. i mod my own as an addition to oc
L1172[22:01:07] <sugoi> does it have to be a physical component that is put into a case slot?
L1173[22:01:25] <sugoi> are there software-only components? or at that point, does it have to be virtual?
L1174[22:01:26] <ProbablyKodos> sugoi: vcomp adds virtual components. No items, no blocks, nothing
L1175[22:01:36] <sugoi> ProbablyKodos: thanks
L1176[22:01:40] <ProbablyKodos> See vtest
L1177[22:01:48] <sugoi> not what i was trying to ask
L1178[22:01:48] <ProbablyKodos> That is an example vcomponent
L1179[22:02:02] <sugoi> i understand vcomponent, read the code in its entirety just now
L1180[22:02:10] <ProbablyKodos> It doesn't add an item
L1181[22:02:16] <sugoi> >.<
L1182[22:02:38] <ProbablyKodos> Nevermind, you don't get it and I'm not going to bother explaining it
L1183[22:02:44] <ProbablyKodos> You're missing the gist of it entirely though
L1184[22:02:59] <sugoi> i understand that. i'm wondering if i don't have an item, but software only, can i add a component to an oc computer "naturally" or is vcomp's method the only way to add a component sans actually have a physical slotted component
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L1186[22:05:13] <sugoi> ProbablyKodos: i think the part of my quesetion that was easily misread was the first statement when i said "how are components supposed to load"
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L1188[22:05:36] <ProbablyKodos> And if you read the code 'in its entirety' you'd know
L1189[22:06:08] <sugoi> what i was trying to say - for non-virtual components, real components, how are they supposed to ACTUALLY load - as a modder - were i to provide a new component, does it have to be a slotted-in-the-case component
L1190[22:06:40] <ProbablyKodos> no, you can do blocks that provide a component
L1191[22:06:52] <ProbablyKodos> See OpenSecurity's Data Block
L1192[22:07:02] <sugoi> does it have to be a block or a slotted item?
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L1195[22:07:16] <ProbablyKodos> What else would it be?
L1196[22:07:18] <sugoi> can it be software only, or in that case, does it have to be virtual - such as via vcomponent
L1197[22:07:39] <ProbablyKodos> I don't know of any software 'components'
L1198[22:07:59] <sugoi> thanks for continue to read my question even though you dismissed it from the first line :)
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L1200[22:08:11] <sugoi> sometimes i don't say things clearly the first time
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L1202[22:08:34] <ProbablyKodos> And sometimes I get irritated prematurely :3
L1203[22:08:53] <ProbablyKodos> Comes with the territory of mental illness I suppose
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L1205[22:08:58] <sugoi> haha
L1206[22:09:04] <gamax92> sugoi: uhh, don't think so
L1207[22:09:30] <sugoi> word
L1208[22:09:35] <sugoi> btw, do you like the PR :)
L1209[22:09:40] <gamax92> items and blocks get added to the component network by oc, but you'd have to manually add yourself to the network
L1210[22:10:02] <gamax92> you can have an item or block expose multiple components though
L1211[22:10:26] <ProbablyKodos> I want my aesthetic block thinger to provide my lib :3
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L1215[22:16:43] <ProbablyKodos> back soon
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L1220[22:51:22] <sugoi> is there a local env table, like _G but for locals?
L1221[22:54:37] <gamax92> local's are just lua registers
L1222[22:54:40] <gamax92> so no
L1223[22:56:17] <sugoi> ok thanks
L1224[22:58:22] <jhagrid77> Not sure if this is tech support or not, but is it posiable to install multiple files from oppm at 1 time? or do I have to do it speartly
L1225[23:00:59] <dangranos> Q_Q
L1226[23:01:06] <dangranos> you damn thing..
L1227[23:01:08] <dangranos> "ValueError: malformed recovery.fstab line: "/efs ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p3""
L1228[23:01:15] <dangranos> just at the end of the building
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