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L1[00:04:54] <Temia> Hey, hey
L2[00:05:08] <rjs232323> yo yo
L3[00:05:13] <Temia> I'm trying to get back
into my coding after so long of being disrupted by college and
depression and I need to pick out an IDE for my laptop
L4[00:05:37] <Temia> Rather my college
laptop, not my gaming one.
L5[00:05:44] <Temia> So more of a netbook.
BUT ANYWAY.
L6[00:05:48] <gamax92> Western Digital
L7[00:05:53] <Temia> Har har
L8[00:05:53] <gamax92> Seagate
L9[00:06:04] <gamax92> :v
L10[00:06:31] <rjs232323> we're talking IDE
but we're talking the name of companies that makes HDD?
L11[00:06:37] <rjs232323> *mind
blown*
L12[00:06:54] <Temia> I'm actually running
an SSD by some obscure-as-fuck manufacturer as the only thing
available for ATA-ZIF that isn't the piece of shit 4200RPM Hitachi
but that's neither here or there
L13[00:06:55] <Temia> Anyway
L14[00:06:56] <gamax92> Cannot tell if
sarcasm or stupid
L15[00:07:11] <gamax92> Anyway!
L16[00:07:33] <Temia> Lightweight IDEs that
are supported by arch. My main targets are C++ and Python with Java
as a seconary. By the end of the day, Geany and NetBeans meet both
of my basic needs.
L17[00:07:36] <gamax92> What kind of
coding? C/C++/Lua/Java/Scala/Python/Perl?
L18[00:07:37] <Temia> But I don't know
which to pick.
L19[00:07:42] <gamax92> oh you just
answered
L20[00:08:07] <Temia> Python is just a
matter of it remembering variable names so I don't derp and
typo
L21[00:08:23] <Temia> Without it poking me
with a stick
L22[00:08:37] <Temia> But the C++ support I
really want because it's gonna be a hell of a ride
L23[00:08:57] <Temia> So, opinions on
each?
L24[00:09:35] *
gamax92 shrugs, the only IDE I've used for C++ was Dev C++ (great
name), it's windows only and doesn't work too well in wine without
modifications
L25[00:09:51] <gamax92> had to use it for
C++ class
L26[00:09:53] <Temia> blech.
L27[00:09:57] <Temia> No thanks :c
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L29[00:10:13] <gamax92> Otherwise
pluma/gedit and a command line :D
L30[00:10:51] <gamax92> and all the peoples
be like "Gee how can you use that, it has no auto completion
or compiling or debug features?"
L31[00:11:00] <gamax92> CAUSE I DON'T RELY
ON A FUCKING CRUTCH
L32[00:12:09] <Temia> Heh
L33[00:12:36] <Temia> I admit I can do that
too, I just... rather would like a helping hand so I don't have to
keep it all in my head.
L34[00:12:44] <Temia> It gets really
troublesome for large projects that way.
L35[00:12:56] <gamax92> Well I mean symbol
completion, name completion is nice
L36[00:13:04] <Temia> Come to think of it
though
L37[00:13:09] <gamax92> stuff like pressed
(?, get an auto )
L38[00:13:11] <Temia> CMake is also a
secondary
L39[00:13:30] <Temia> I'm gonna likely be
digging into that as I develop
L41[00:15:38] <Temia> Looks like putting
CMake into the equation has cinched it
L42[00:16:33] <Temia> Geany doesn't have
much going for it in that regard
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L49[01:05:07] <Izaya> I don't get how
people stand completion
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L51[01:05:25] <Izaya> vim, tmux and zsh
here
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L57[01:37:12] <Sandra> I like IDEs if it's
a java/scala/etc.
L58[01:37:31] <Sandra> but if it's a
scripting language which doesn't require an immense amount of bs to
use.
L59[01:37:58] <Sandra> I use gedit.
L60[01:38:07] <Sandra> although I've quite
liked atom.
L61[01:39:21] <Izaya> Isn't that written in
JS?
L62[01:39:52] <Vexatos> CS
L63[01:39:57] <Vexatos> coffeescript, CSON
and LESS
L64[01:40:05] <Vexatos> lots of it
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L66[01:57:44] <Temia> Yeah.
L67[01:58:04] <Temia> I'm just lazy and
want quick feedback if I typo or misremember names
L68[01:58:20] <Temia> Having a debugger is
always nice too.
L69[02:09:03] <Sandra> I like atom because
it's like: I am a basic text editor with highlighting and a bit of
autocomplete.
L70[02:09:17] <Sandra> but you don't need
anything you don't use.
L71[02:09:24] <Sandra> you can disable
everything.
L72[02:09:37] <Sandra> and also add things
you want.
L73[02:09:40] <Sandra> with plugins.
L74[02:09:48] <Sandra> and a built-in
package manager.
L75[02:14:11] <Vexatos> I am a basic text
editor with highlighting and a bit of autocomplete and 260MB of RAM
usage \:D/
L76[02:14:22] <Vexatos> But hey, I have 8GB
of RAM now, so whatever \:D/
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L78[02:14:51] <Vexatos> 360MB*
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L80[02:25:43] <Lizzy> s/Lizzy/LIZ
L81[02:25:52] <Lizzy> meh, k
L82[02:26:51] <Lizzy> got pinged in here
somewhere i think
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L90[04:01:45] <Sandra> ...?
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L92[04:06:15] <Inari> Sandra: ...!
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L94[04:09:25] <ccsonic_> Hey! Is it
possible to read from an AE system?
L95[04:11:37] <ccsonic_> Uh, by reading I
mean the amount of an Item in that system
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L99[04:33:28] <Sandra> ccsonic_, yes.
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L101[04:33:38] <Sandra> connect an me
interface to an adapter.
L102[04:33:50] <Sandra> you'll have a
component called me_interface.
L103[04:34:28] <Sandra> there's a thing in
there to read the amount of items of a type stored in a
database.
L104[04:35:59] <ccsonic_> Alright thx,
gonna try that out :)
L105[04:59:13] <ccsonic_> Another
question.. :x Is there a way that the computer recognizes if it
gets shut down manually by pressing the button in the case?
L106[05:03:28] <Temia> No, I think that's
considered a forced shutoff like any other -- at best you could
rewrite the OS code to mark a boot flag to indicate a graceful
shutdown
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L108[05:07:08] <ccsonic_> okay rewriting
that code might be too difficult for me, need to try things out
differently. Maybe without WakeThreshold, simply with an if
clause
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L114[06:30:09] <S3> Ivoah: nothing like
that
L115[06:30:50] <S3> Imagine your finger
facing like 90 degrees at the middle knuckle not the ones on your
wrist
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L127[07:35:11] <RaptorJeebus> Hey guys, i
have a query, What would be the simplest, most power efficient way
of monitoring a pneumaticcraft setup with oc? i don't want to set
up an entire pc just for a couple pumps
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L137[08:59:20] <Vexatos> Sangar: Do you
think it's reasonable if the upgrade consumed 0.01 OC/t (by
default) while active?
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L140[09:13:29] <cloakable> RaptorJeebus:
gonna need a computer I'm afraid; I'd love to be able to do it with
a microcontroller but they can't access external components.
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L142[09:14:33] <Izaya> RaptorJeebus,
cloakable, you could still do it with a minimal component count -
EEPROM, CPU, T1 memory, and an adaptor
L143[09:15:00] <RaptorJeebus> oo,
thanks
L144[09:16:18] <Izaya> but you'd have to
write some relatively low-level lua to make it work
L145[09:16:27] <RaptorJeebus> yeah i can
do that
L146[09:16:35] <RaptorJeebus> it's just i
don't want to set up an entire computer for it aha
L147[09:16:43] <RaptorJeebus> and i have
yet to work out microcontrollers
L148[09:17:08] <Izaya> unfortunately
microcontrollers can't access external components
L149[09:17:17] <RaptorJeebus> oh damn
:C
L150[09:17:26] <Izaya> they can redstone
though
L151[09:17:42] <RaptorJeebus> yeah but it
needs to read the pressure, which is a problem
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L154[09:24:08] <cloakable> I wish
microcontrollers could do external components, even if only a
minimal amount. Being able to use one on say, a pneumaticcraft
compressor or big reactor would be great.
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L156[09:26:44] <RaptorJeebus> wait, did
cloakable say something? i timed out earlier and didn't see
it
L157[09:27:01] <cloakable> I wish
microcontrollers could do external components, even if only a
minimal amount. Being able to use one on say, a pneumaticcraft
compressor or big reactor would be great.
L158[09:27:09] <RaptorJeebus> nah before
that
L159[09:27:26] <cloakable> RaptorJeebus:
gonna need a computer I'm afraid; I'd love to be able to do it with
a microcontroller but they can't access external components.
L160[09:27:31] <RaptorJeebus> ah
L161[09:27:33] <RaptorJeebus> thanks
L162[09:29:19] <gamax92> "Best viewed
at 800x600 with IE 6.0 or Netscape 7.02 or Mozilla Firefox 1.0.6 or
higher. ©2015 Realtek Semiconductor Corp."
L163[09:29:38] <gamax92> I'm sorry I
thought it was 2015
L164[09:30:01] <dangranos> >or
higher
L165[09:30:02] <dangranos> it is
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L167[09:35:39] <cloakable> I'd love to see
a config setting to allow a microcontroller to access external
components >.>
L168[09:39:15] <dangranos> go away
L169[09:39:17] <dangranos> sorry
L170[09:39:31] <cloakable> heh
L171[09:39:32] <dangranos> but
microcontroller can't access external components by itself
L172[09:39:35] <dangranos> use
computer
L173[09:39:57] <Izaya> dangranos, 'go
away' isn't really a very good response
L174[09:40:04] <gamax92> dangranos: wow
rude
L175[09:40:05] <Izaya> you'd be better off
explaining why
L176[09:40:26] <cloakable> I know :P But
using an entire computer to say, monitor a big reactor from the
computer port seems wasteful :P
L177[09:40:31] <dangranos> cloakable,
sorry, just that question is not really so original
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L180[09:40:50] <dangranos> use T1 computer
with networking
L181[09:40:59] <cloakable> doesn't need
networking
L182[09:41:02] <dangranos> to report to
main
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L185[09:41:14] <dangranos> eh?
L186[09:41:43] <cloakable> All it needs to
do is take the power buffer %, and set the control rods to that %
:P
L187[09:41:50] <dangranos> T1
L188[09:41:52] <dangranos> computer
L189[09:42:02] <cloakable> is
L190[09:42:03] <dangranos> you dont even
need hard drive for it
L191[09:42:04] <gamax92> such wasteful,
you'll spend some extra resources to make a block to do that, plop
it down, and forget it exists
L192[09:42:04] <cloakable> overkill
L193[09:42:15] <dangranos> uh, excuse
me?
L194[09:42:19] <cloakable> :P
L195[09:42:22] <dangranos> just, take T1
block
L196[09:42:34] <dangranos> adapter (or
even without it, iirc there is computer IO)
L197[09:42:47] <dangranos> memory, cpu and
EEPROM
L198[09:43:00] <dangranos> write program
for EEPROM and run it
L199[09:43:05] <dangranos> and forget it
exists
L200[09:43:19] <dangranos> so, 4-5
components totally
L201[09:43:49] <dangranos> and not that
more expensive than microcontroller
L202[09:44:00] <dangranos> aaaanything
else?
L203[09:44:04] <cloakable> so basically
build an inefficient microcontroller :D
L204[09:44:19] *
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L205[09:44:29] <dangranos> izaya, can you
mail me some of those drinks?
L206[09:44:32] <cloakable> hah
L207[09:44:56] <Izaya> dangranos, probably
best not
L208[09:45:08] <dangranos> tea it is
then
L209[09:45:13] <Izaya> you wouldn't want
to end up like me
L210[09:45:42] <dangranos> eh, that's the
only thing i need to end up like you
L211[09:45:45] <dangranos> and anime
L212[09:45:49] <cloakable> I'll probably
end up going the inefficient microcontroller route, but I'll be
facepalming all the way through :D
L213[09:46:10] <dangranos> cloakable, uc
is designed as a networking standalone thing
L214[09:46:22] <dangranos> not standalone
component thing
L215[09:46:39] <Izaya> dangranos, are you
being slowly driven insane by the users and the totally batshit
crazy system you have to work with?
L216[09:47:12] <dangranos> well, slowly
but surely comes to that
L217[09:47:27] <Izaya> the fate of all
sysadmins
L218[09:47:54] <dangranos> hm
L219[09:48:06] <dangranos> i wonder if
grade 10 and 11 is really that necessary
L220[09:48:36] <dangranos> the only new
thing is math in those two
L221[09:49:03] <dangranos> as for IT
lessons... i have seen the book for those two
L222[09:49:40] <dangranos> just various
degree "html - the web programming language" and
"microsoft office tutorial streched for months"
L223[09:49:46] *
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L224[09:50:04] <Izaya> dangranos, do you
have a tendancy to forget to sleep?
L225[09:50:13] <dangranos> not yet
L226[09:52:54] <gamax92> her
L227[09:52:59] <gamax92> TIL
L228[09:53:16] <Izaya> cloakable, totally
maxed?
L229[09:53:22] <cloakable> Izaya:
ofc
L230[09:54:30] <cloakable> Tier III CPUs,
3.5 ram, 3 GPU, etc.
L231[09:55:49] <Vexatos> Sangar: Help
D;
L232[09:56:04] <cloakable> I'll install
OpenOS on a RAID of tier 3 hard disks and use another for
data
L233[10:01:22] <vifino> Uh, what is the
windows equivalent of blkid?
L234[10:01:57] <Izaya> uh
L235[10:02:03] <Izaya> yeah good luck with
that
L236[10:03:56] <nxsupert> o/
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L238[10:07:09] <ccsonic_> Hi again. If I
have a redstone card in the case does the computer also realize if
there's a signal on another components like a screen?
L239[10:07:52] <cloakable> no, iirc
L240[10:08:09] <ccsonic_> Okay, what does
iirc mean? :x
L241[10:08:18] <cloakable> If I Recall
Correctly
L242[10:08:28] <ccsonic_> Ah, makse sense.
Thx!
L243[10:09:33] <cloakable> redstone to a
screen turns the screen off iirc
L244[10:09:53] <ccsonic_> Alright, will
keep that in mind.
L245[10:10:11] *
cloakable contemplates 3d printing a lever that acts like a
button
L246[10:11:10] <ccsonic_> That does only
have cosmetic reasons?
L247[10:11:27] <cloakable> Please,
aesthetics are important!
L248[10:11:42] <cloakable> (yes)
L249[10:11:44] <ccsonic_> Did I say that
they are unimportant?
L250[10:11:57] <cloakable> haha true
:D
L251[10:12:00] <ccsonic_> They are, btw
:p
L252[10:12:08] <ccsonic_> I mean, they are
important! :D
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L254[10:13:34] <Vexatos> SANGAR
PLEASE
L255[10:13:50] <ccsonic_> Ive not tried
out the 3d printer? Is it needed to do the meshes by myself?
L256[10:13:53] <Vexatos> I JUST SPENT 2
HOURS TRYING TO SEE WHY MY UPGRADE DOESN'T WORK AND IT'S AN OC
BUG
L257[10:13:57] <Vexatos>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
L258[10:14:03] <ccsonic_> :D
L259[10:14:17] <ccsonic_> what
upgrade?
L260[10:15:13] <Noob> By the way, is there
like a list for "popular" addons to OC?
L261[10:15:41] <dangranos>
computronics
L262[10:16:01] <Noob> In 3dprinter you
build any model that is made of any-shaped "blocks" with
any texture or things like solid-nonsolid
L263[10:16:31] <cloakable> ccsonic_: if
you install oppm there's a package with some meshes already there,
but you can also design them yourself
L264[10:16:55] <ccsonic_> So theres a Gui
to create models?
L266[10:17:38] <ccsonic_> ah
L268[10:19:11] <ccsonic_> Hi
L269[10:19:39] <S3> who is ccsonic
L270[10:20:04] <ccsonic_> I am? What do
you want to know in particular?
L272[10:20:40] <S3> Never seen you
before
L273[10:21:01] <ccsonic_> Ive been here
for some days now since Im trying out OC.
L274[10:21:01] <Izaya> S3, Windows 7 user,
with I'm guessing an i3 or i5
L275[10:21:09] <S3> I see.
L276[10:21:19] <Izaya> ccsonic_, was I
right?
L278[10:21:36] <ccsonic_> Depends on what
computer you mean. I have this "old" one, its with and
AMD.
L279[10:21:42] <ccsonic_> an
L280[10:21:57] <ccsonic_> My real one has
an i5, yes
L281[10:22:01] <S3> I'm on a mac at work
atm because my laptop needs to be fixed.. I'm going to be taking it
apart tonight to replace that DC connector
L282[10:22:19] <ccsonic_> DC ?
L284[10:22:28] <Izaya> direct
current
L285[10:22:57] <Noob> Being on i7 is a bad
thing?
L286[10:23:02] <S3> The jack you plug
into, I broke it in half
L287[10:23:04] <ccsonic_> ah
L288[10:23:13] <S3> technically
speaking
L289[10:23:20] <S3> AMD and Intel, etc all
suck
L290[10:23:33] <Izaya> technically we
should all be using RISC processors?
L291[10:23:42] <S3> RISC is just a
concept
L292[10:24:12] <ccsonic_> S3: Oh, how did
you broke it?
L293[10:24:36] <S3> Meh. Just wore out
after a couple of falls. No big deal.
L294[10:24:56] <S3> Thinkpads are
bulletproof, so you can just keep replacing parts in em
forever
L295[10:25:25] <Izaya> which
thinkpad?
L296[10:25:28] <S3> now Izaya
L297[10:25:31] <S3> Windows is ALWAYS
bad
L298[10:25:41] <Noob> Why using RISC?
Because it's a bit faster?
L299[10:25:47] <S3> Actually..
L300[10:25:52] <ccsonic_> Ah okay, I think
my phone also is broken in some way. If I want to charge it I need
to put in the jack with much pressure, else it wont charge...
L301[10:25:58] <S3> The RISC is faster is
a myth
L302[10:26:04] <Izaya> Noob, current x86
processors are internally RISC processors
L303[10:26:13] <ccsonic_> whats
RISC?
L304[10:26:19] <Noob> NSA/Windows, call it
right... Like GNU/Linux, but NSA/Windows...
L305[10:26:35] <Izaya> RISC is reduced
instruction set computing
L306[10:26:55] <Noob> RISC - simple
command architecture, CISC - complicated one. Difference is,
well...
L307[10:26:58] <S3> Saying RISC is faster
than CISC is like saying that pipelined processors are faster than
superscalar processors. There is no faster or slower about
it.
L308[10:27:09] <S3> throughput is all in
the end design
L309[10:27:17] <Noob> On the arhitecture
side, CISC are slower but they provide easier assembly
language
L310[10:27:29] <S3> That's really not
true
L311[10:27:41] <S3> CISC architectures can
technically be just as fast or faster
L312[10:28:01] <ccsonic_> Oh, well... I
hardly understand this speaking in my language. Now in english it's
almost impossible for me :D
L313[10:28:33] <Vexatos> ccsonic, the
Colorful Upgrade
L314[10:28:33] <S3> and easier assembly is
an opinion. some people find RISC much simpler to work with.
L315[10:29:26] <Noob> In short words,
well... RISC processors have trait of having rather multiple
versions of instructions for various arguments. Like, MOV function
in RISC processors... there are versions for Register->Memory,
Memory->Register, Register->Register, etc
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L318[10:30:33] <Noob> CISC processors
could have same instruction for all 3 kinds of arguments, just
changing few bits in instruction itself but not really using
different code of it
L319[10:30:47] <S3> Either way, there are
ridiculous factors in terms of speed in processors, and the RISC
vs. CISC debate is not a final faster or slower subject :P
L320[10:31:30] <Noob> But those
instructions are more complicated to "parse" for
processor therefore there's more complicated architecture behind
CISC processors
L321[10:32:26] <Noob> RISC processors
would rather add 5 similiar instructions than making one but
"smart"
L322[10:32:27] <S3> They can be more
complicated to parse, but because of things like superpipelining
and optimizations, etc, CISC can easily make up for it.
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L324[10:32:56] <gamax92> For some reason,
instead of arguments I read spaghetti
L325[10:33:03] <ccsonic_> How can I make
it that a program runs forever and repeating its code? Is a
function necessary for that?
L326[10:33:04] <gamax92> was very
confused
L327[10:33:16] <ccsonic_> creating a
function*
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L329[10:33:18] <S3> with superpipelining,
a complicated cisc instruction can be handled in the same cycle if
you do it just right
L330[10:33:20] <Noob> Put it inside
infinite loop?
L331[10:33:31] <Cazzar> ccsonic_: while
true ...
L332[10:34:49] <ccsonic_> Hm, yeah... I
need to really consider what I actually want to include in that
program.
L334[10:35:17] <S3> Lua loops are
weird.
L335[10:35:26] <S3> in Perl or C you can
just go for (;;) {}
L336[10:35:32] <S3> for infinite
loops
L337[10:35:42] <S3> In fact that's the
recommended way to do it.
L338[10:35:50] <ccsonic_> Im proud I can
barely understand lua
L339[10:36:03] <gamax92> S3: you could
also just do while (true) {} >_>
L340[10:36:14] <gamax92> even if that's
not recommended, it's closer to lua
L341[10:36:35] <Cazzar> AFAIK the c
compiler transforms a for into a while in ASM
L342[10:36:50] <Cazzar> I've recently been
reading up on x86 asm.
L343[10:37:09] <ccsonic_> If I use while
true ... wouldnt it print all the text Im telling him to
repeat?
L344[10:37:12] <S3> gamax92: yeah I know,
but it's actually recommended to use for (;;) {} in C believe it or
not :P
L345[10:37:18] <S3> in many style
manuals
L346[10:37:24] <Cazzar> Because uni ain't
hard enough
L348[10:37:34] <gamax92> S3: A half decent
compiler will optimize both forms to nothing anyway
L349[10:37:40] <S3> right
L350[10:37:44] <S3> but it takes less disk
space :)
L351[10:37:52] <gamax92> pfft;
L352[10:37:58] <S3> lololol
L353[10:38:02] <S3> either way
L354[10:38:07] <S3> it also looks cooler
so blargh
L355[10:38:21] <Cazzar> Oh no, what, 2
bytes per character... MAXIMUM ?
L356[10:38:32] <S3> I wonder
L357[10:38:39] <S3> #bf +[]
L358[10:38:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
Error.
L360[10:38:53] <Cazzar> Your hard drives
sectors are larger than the saving, so it really doesn't
matter.
L361[10:39:05] <S3> #bf
+++++[>+<-].
L362[10:39:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
L363[10:39:22] <Cazzar> ccsonic_ if you
are trying to loop code you really just wrap it in a while
loop
L364[10:39:27] <S3> #bf
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[>+<-].
L365[10:39:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
L366[10:39:38] <S3> #bf
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[>++<-].
L367[10:39:38] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
L368[10:39:55] <S3> you're weird mr
bit
L370[10:40:05] <Cazzar> Probably a
timeout
L371[10:40:20] <Cazzar> If you take into
account the actual time difference each time.
L373[10:40:31] <S3> shouldn't be
L374[10:40:38] <Cazzar> 5 seconds vs
~1?
L375[10:40:46] <Cazzar> Possible
L376[10:40:58] <Sangar> o/
L377[10:41:12] <Cazzar> \o Sangar!
L378[10:41:20] <Sangar> ohai!
L379[10:41:21] <S3> hey Sangar
L380[10:41:28] <ccsonic_> hi
L381[10:42:24] <S3> Noob:.... I have some
books on cpu architecture design from the university here I've had
for a long time... too bad I can't just throw them through the
monitor at you! :)
L382[10:43:16] <S3> one of them is
extremely impressive
L383[10:43:29] <S3> the other is almost
100% about pipelining
L384[10:43:53] <S3> pipelining can be
slightly boring... XD
L385[10:45:14] <Vexatos> SANGAR
L386[10:45:15] <Vexatos> HELP
L387[10:45:19] <Vexatos> I NEED YOUR
HELP
L388[10:45:22] <gamax92> S3: what kinds of
cpu spaghetti books are they
L389[10:45:43] *
Sangar unwraps a packet of 'help', hands it to Vexatos
L390[10:45:48] <S3> gamax92:they are books
previously used in my EE major
L391[10:45:59] <S3> from classes
L392[10:46:02] <gamax92> oh ...
L393[10:46:14] <S3> the generic cpu arch
one is really frigging cool
L394[10:46:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, #1
L395[10:46:31] <Vexatos>
<Vexatos> I JUST
SPENT 2 HOURS TRYING TO SEE WHY MY UPGRADE DOESN'T WORK AND IT'S AN
OC BUG
L396[10:46:33] <S3> it has an entire
chapter on artitifical intelligence and neural networks in cpu arch
design
L397[10:46:37] <Vexatos> check github for
that
L398[10:46:56] <Vexatos> #2: How in the
fish are you synchronizing your experience upgrade with the client
side?
L399[10:47:07] <Vexatos> I was unable to
find anything related to that ;_;
L400[10:47:20] <gamax92> S3: what about
the one about 100% spaghetti?
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L403[10:49:11] <S3> it's somewhat boring,
a lot less circuitry, more theory and history and background.. it
takes about pipelining just like the generic book does, but gets
more into the practices with it and stuff. the generic one actually
goes into the design of the dynamic and static pipelining
L404[10:49:16] <Sangar> Vexatos, gg
L405[10:49:19] <Sangar> will look into it
:P
L406[10:49:38] <Sangar> Vexatos, idk
L407[10:49:45] <S3> the pipelining book
gets into real big detail about superscalar system design
L408[10:49:56] <S3> and incorporating it
with superpipelining
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L410[10:50:07] <S3> so you can have your
superpipelined superscalar architectures :)
L411[10:50:12] <gamax92> mmmm,
superspaghetti
L413[10:51:13] <gamax92> S3: btw what does
FPGA stand for
L414[10:51:53] <Vexatos> Sangar, Colorful
Upgrade is done, pretty much
L415[10:52:18] <Vexatos> Just need a) that
bug fixed or b) you to tell me how you're sending the experience
upgrade data to the client
L417[10:52:34] <Noob> err.. Colorful
upgrade?
L418[10:52:52] <S3> gamax92: Field
Programmable Gate Array
L419[10:52:54] <Sangar> Vexatos, are you
sure that's not working in the containers? because it seems to work
for the generator upgrade...
L420[10:53:01] <S3> sorry I was accross
the office introcing myself to somebody
L421[10:53:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, yes
L422[10:53:15] <Sangar> then idk why the
generator is working :X
L423[10:53:19] <S3> gamax92:I've been
trying to look into Field Programmable Array Logic instead
L425[10:53:26] <Vexatos> Sangar,
robot.getComponentInSlot(i) returns null
L426[10:53:32] <Vexatos> i being the slot
of the upgrade
L427[10:53:36] <S3> that and Field
Programmable Logic Arrays (FPLA) Two different circuit types
L428[10:53:39] <Vexatos>
robot.getStackInSlot(i) however works
L429[10:53:44] <Vexatos> and returns the
correct itemstack
L430[10:53:50] <Vexatos> so it has been
synchronized properly
L431[10:53:56] <Vexatos> just not added to
the component count
L432[10:53:59] <Vexatos> component
list*
L433[10:54:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, the
generator upgrade uses item.dataTag on the stack
L434[10:55:03] <Vexatos> so it's obvious
that that one works
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L436[10:55:27] <Sangar> well, yeah,
because components aren't usually created on the client...
L437[10:55:33] <Vexatos> They are
L438[10:55:38] <Vexatos> I did some
inspection
L439[10:55:52] <Vexatos> The
"components" list is full of environments
L440[10:56:04] <Vexatos> on th
client
L441[10:56:09] <Sangar> ^.-
L442[10:56:19] <Sangar> i'm... not sure
it's supposed to be
L443[10:56:21] <Vexatos>
client.PacketHandler just doesn't support adding components from
upgrade containers
L444[10:56:25] <Vexatos> .....
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L446[10:56:36] <Vexatos> Anyways, how are
you synchronizing the experience upgrade data?
L447[10:56:41] <Vexatos> Could you look
into that, please?
L448[10:56:55] <Vexatos> because you are
not using synchronizeSlot for that
L449[10:57:28] <Sangar> probably not at
all, because it gets synced every now and again anyway, and a
timely updating of the color isn't really all that important
L450[10:57:43] <Sangar> (in that
case)
L452[10:58:28] <Vexatos> is that the right
way of doing it, if client-side components are a bug .-.
L454[11:00:08] <Noob> ccsonic_: Define
your "doing nothing" more precisely
L455[11:00:37] <Noob> Like, hanging
forever? Quitting program? Asking choice again? Shutting down
PC?
L456[11:01:53] <ccsonic> More likely to
return to the io.read()
L457[11:02:42] <ccsonic> Still asking what
to do. Again reading the input.
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L459[11:04:58] <ccsonic> Oh. Didn't fully
read ur answer. Yes, asking choice again.
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L461[11:05:46] <Magik6k> Starchasers dedi
died onec more ;/
L462[11:06:17] <Noob> On your place i'd
put all this inside repeat until quit==true loop and then just not
include any if condition if option 1 was picked. Though my advices
might be terrible because i'm still more of C-language person than
Lua...
L463[11:08:21] <Cazzar> Do-while might
work better
L464[11:08:26] *
Vexatos pokes Sangar for an answer
L465[11:09:08] <Sangar> patience :P
L466[11:13:18] <ccsonic> Yeah gonna try
that out
L467[11:15:28] <ccsonic> The patience.
Just gonna wait and hope it will work :p
L468[11:17:12] <Sangar> so
L469[11:18:12] <Sangar> not quite sure
whether it's a bug or not. kinda scared of adding it because it
might break for stuff... buuut let's live dangerously i guess
:X
L470[11:20:39] <Sangar> Vexatos, give the
next build a try
L471[11:21:53] <Vexatos> Sangar, Have you
looked at my hastebin?
L472[11:22:16] <Vexatos> That's roughly
the way your generator upgrade works, and it does work in the build
I have right now, too
L473[11:22:38] <Vexatos> my question
simply is if you prefer that or going by getComponentInSlot
L474[11:23:00] <Sangar> Vexatos, uhh,
sure. if you can't test it based on the item class+damage/id that
looks fine
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L476[11:23:31] <Sangar> i honestly thought
there were no automatic components on the client, so it would've
been, but since there apparently are anyway, you might just as well
use getComponentInSlot :P
L477[11:24:25] <Vexatos> Sangar, pretty
sure you just "fixed" the wrong thing
L478[11:24:41] <Sangar> what do you
mean?
L480[11:25:09] <Vexatos> that's the line
that is derping for component in upgrade containers :P
L481[11:25:11] <Sangar> try it first
:P
L482[11:25:19] <Sangar> no it's not
L483[11:25:22] <Vexatos> Whatever you have
just done, it looks wrong
L484[11:25:45] <Vexatos> Mind, Sangar: The
component is added on the client side when I load the world
L485[11:25:54] <Sangar> :P
L486[11:25:55] <Vexatos> only as soon as I
call synchronizeSlot, it vanishes
L487[11:26:00] <Sangar> wot
L488[11:26:15] <Vexatos> that means
synchronizeSlot is not adding it to the component list
L489[11:26:26] <Vexatos> because upgrade
containers have slot indices like 2
L490[11:26:35] <Vexatos> which makes this
line obviously fail
L491[11:26:46] <Sangar> synchronizeSlot
shouldn't ever have to add it to that list, onAdded should
L492[11:27:02] <Vexatos> it did not
L493[11:27:04] <Vexatos> again
L494[11:27:06] <Vexatos> I join the
world
L495[11:27:09] <Vexatos> the robot is
coloured
L496[11:27:29] <Vexatos> I call
synchronizeSlot, the robot is not coloured anymore because the
"components" list doesn't contain it anymore
L497[11:27:40] <Vexatos> meaning it did
happen due to that line I just linked
L498[11:27:47] <S3> gamax92:so
L499[11:27:55] <Sangar> have you actually
tried the next build? >_>
L500[11:27:56] <S3> what do you think of
OCBSD supporting ATM?
L501[11:27:56] <Vexatos> your weird
onItemAdded will not change it, I honestly have no idea why you
even did that, it's completely pointless
L502[11:28:23] <S3> I think ATM would be a
fun network protocol to have for connecting OC networks
L503[11:28:33] <Vexatos> hmm
L504[11:28:38] <Vexatos> it probably
actually will fix it
L505[11:28:49] <Vexatos> But not in a way
that would make sense
L506[11:28:54] <Vexatos> in fact, this way
is horrible
L507[11:28:54] <Sangar> YOU DON"T
SAY
L508[11:28:57] <Sangar> y
L509[11:29:00] <Vexatos> but
whatever
L510[11:29:03] <Sangar> this covers all
the cases
L511[11:29:50] <Vexatos> You still haven't
told me if you'd prefer the go-by-itemstack or go-by-component
way
L512[11:30:26] <Vexatos> I need to know
.-.
L513[11:30:29] <Sangar> i honestly don't
care, but since i just added code to make it generate envs on the
client you might as well use that :X
L514[11:30:48] <S3> I was thhinking this
gamax92
L515[11:31:00] <S3> ATM for transport, but
instead of having IP
L516[11:31:02] <S3> using the UUIDs
L517[11:31:23] <S3> and then for IP
compatability, could do some IP translation medium later on like
how IPv4 -> IPv6 can
L518[11:31:38] <Vexatos> Sangar,
true
L519[11:31:47] <Vexatos> But then I'd need
to wait for 1.5.18 ;_;
L520[11:31:53] <Vexatos> meh,
whatever
L521[11:31:53] <Sangar> also true :P
L522[11:32:01] <Sangar> it's a new feature
anyway, so i'd say whatever
L523[11:32:07] <S3> there's only one
problem. if the UUId of the machine is used then one machine can
only have one address.
L524[11:32:12] <Vexatos>
"feature"
L525[11:32:19] <S3> how do you suppose
that could be worked around Sangar, if you were listening?
L526[11:32:21] <Sangar> unfeature?
L527[11:32:26] <Vexatos> Now I just need
to test it with the xp upgrade
L528[11:32:31] <Sangar> S3 totally wasn't,
sec
L529[11:32:42] <S3> It' fine, you are busy
:P
L530[11:32:46] <Vexatos> What happens if
you call glColor3f(somestuff) and then
glColor3ub(someotherstuff)
L531[11:32:53] <Vexatos> does it override
the color?
L532[11:32:56] <Vexatos> or apply
both+
L533[11:33:12] <Sangar> S3 i have no clue
what you're talking about :P
L534[11:33:20] <Sangar> Vexatos,
overrides
L535[11:33:24] <Vexatos> Dangit, Creatix
doesn't contain an xp upgrade
L536[11:33:35] <Vexatos> Sangar, so I just
need to have EventPriority.LOW
L537[11:33:37] <Vexatos> Ok
L538[11:33:42] <Sangar> depends :P
L539[11:33:48] <Sangar> what's the
default?
L540[11:34:04] <Vexatos>
EventPriority.NORMAL
L541[11:34:16] <Sangar> so you want to
yield to the xp upgrade?
L542[11:34:30] <Vexatos> I want to color
after the xp upgrade
L543[11:34:33] <Vexatos> to override its
color
L544[11:34:41] <Sangar> oh, low means
later?
L545[11:34:43] <Vexatos> Yes
L546[11:34:47] <Sangar> okthen
L547[11:34:48] <Vexatos> High priority =
first to execute
L548[11:35:05] <Sangar> yeah, i was more
thinking in terms of sort order and got confused :P
L549[11:35:14] <Sangar> welp, gotta go!
laters o/
L550[11:35:29] <S3> Well, in terms of
networking Sangar, you could a) use the computers UUID for an
address, but you could also use the network card for the address.
There is a limitation: how would you be able to have more than one
UUID per network card? Maybe there's a way to fake a component in
Lua that is just virtual, and provides a UUID on the network?
L551[11:35:41] <S3> which is really just a
lan card alias uuid
L552[11:35:49] <Vexatos> Gosh, I wish you
could get the Class object of a generic type parameter
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L555[11:37:35] <Vexatos>
GL11.glColor3ub((byte) ((color >> 16) & 0xFF), (byte)
((color >> 8) & 0xFF), (byte) (color & 0xFF));
L556[11:37:39] <Vexatos> look at this
pretty thing ;_;
L557[11:37:51] <S3> It may be easier
Sangar to clone ethernet protocol and use the uuid as the mac
address. But then it wouldn't be ATM :)
L558[11:44:35] <ccsonic_> Alright, sorry
for my minor problem. Should have just tried it out. A loop did
just fine :)
L559[11:46:08] <ccsonic_> Uhm, how can I
prevent people of interrupting my program with Ctrl,Alt,C ?
L560[11:46:27] <Skye> ccsonic_, why do you
want to do that?
L561[11:46:59] <ccsonic_> I dont want
people to hack my computer. Ive implemented an emergency exit
already
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L563[11:50:51] <S3> Ok. AT< will
definately be super useful for connecting long distance networks in
MC
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L565[11:50:54] <S3> between towns
L567[11:51:26] <S3> maybe you'd want to
just use ethernet in your house. But if all goes well, OCBSD could
support both models
L568[11:51:44] <S3> if you pull up an ATM
interface for your long distance network highways
L569[11:51:53] <S3> and use ethernet for
your city networks..
L570[11:52:33] <S3> it would reduce a lot
of the excessive ammounts of event flooding that ethernet switches
cause
L571[12:04:16] <gamax92> audiotool is
fun
L572[12:08:32] <vifino> I installed
android-x86 on my tablet, but it doesn't want to boot from it, it
is stuck at "Detecting Android" ._.
L573[12:08:39] <vifino> Darn.
L574[12:09:34] <gamax92> vifino:
audiotool
L575[12:09:39] <vifino> gamax92:
flash
L576[12:09:48] <gamax92> ... right
L577[12:10:03] *
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L581[12:13:53] <vifino> FOR FUCKS SAKE.
Work you piece of shit.
L582[12:14:00] <vifino> I want darn
android. Now.
L583[12:17:09] <Noob> What tablet is that?
The CPU I mean
L584[12:17:58] <vifino> i5.
L585[12:18:06] <vifino> Haswell.
L586[12:19:19] <Noob> Oh it's not that bad
then. Try Atom Baytrail... Can't even get Bluetooth working
correctly under linux ._.
L587[12:25:05] <Noob> I especially
"love" how Baytrail tablets are 64-bit CPU but have
32-bit UEFI nonetheless....
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L591[12:27:26] <S3> I didn't realize that
ATM addressing includes the MAC address of the adaptor and THEN a
Multiple Endpoint Identifier
L592[12:27:35] <S3> allowing up to 256
aliases for the same network card
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L594[12:28:30] <S3> ok guys, so I think
the first networking protocol OCBSD will support is ATM. It is easy
to configure once you figure it out
L596[12:29:06] <S3> I'll even include a
feature to make it run as a switch properly
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L600[12:56:54] <Vexatos> hurr
L601[12:57:03] <Vexatos> WHAT COULD I
POSSIBLY BE DOING
L603[12:58:06] <Vexatos> ?
L607[12:58:56] <vifino> Darn you,
Vexatos.
L608[12:59:12] <vifino> I need them inputs
on mah pastebin.
L609[12:59:16] <Vexatos> asie: Does that
ping you?
L610[12:59:29] <asie> yup
L611[12:59:31] <Vexatos> Sooo, I need
o(pi)nions... how bad do you think would that piece of code
be
L612[12:59:36] <Vexatos> called every
render tick ;_;
L613[13:00:42] <S3> I wonder
L614[13:00:50] <S3> how many packets can I
send over a lan card per tick
L615[13:00:51] <vifino> Vexatos: I trade
my opinion on your code against your opinion on my pastebin.
L616[13:00:53] <vifino> Deal?
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L618[13:01:53] <Vexatos> asie: You know
what the fun thing about that piece of code is?
L620[13:02:06] <Vexatos> Everytime you
right click an item, you get a new itemstack instance
L621[13:02:12] <Vexatos> since I am using
the hash code in my calculations
L622[13:02:24] <Vexatos> you can right
click it to change its colour immediately to something random
:D
L623[13:02:34] <Vexatos> best gimmick
ever
L624[13:02:44] <asie> right now i'm
massively improving BC fillers
L625[13:02:46] <Vexatos> (Btw, yes, that
is the new Colorful Upgrade)
L626[13:03:03] <Vexatos> It has a canvas
like the colorful lamp
L627[13:03:12] <Vexatos> but I am changing
its hue value over a span of 30 seconds
L628[13:03:45] <Vexatos> every item
looking different due to the hash code in the calculation. And you
can right click it to change the hash code :D
L629[13:08:59] <Vexatos> This icon is so
extremely confusing
L630[13:09:00] <Vexatos> I love uit
L631[13:09:01] <Vexatos> it
L632[13:09:12] <Vexatos> it seems to
change colour everytime you look at it differently
L633[13:09:15] <Vexatos> best. gimmick.
ever
L634[13:12:03] <S3> hey asie
L635[13:22:29] <S3> gamax92:I find it
mildly disturbing that string.pack and string.unpack aren't
included so I can just call them in the EEPROM :)
L636[13:22:42] <gamax92> ?
L637[13:23:18] <gamax92> what do you mean
by not included, I'm pretty sure you can use those functions from
an eeprom
L638[13:23:35] <S3> not listed in
wiki
L640[13:24:04] <gamax92> because it's part
of lua ._.
L641[13:24:17] <S3> so aren't most of
those
L643[13:24:35] <S3> your reason is
invalid!
L644[13:24:49] <gamax92> S3: you mean all
of math, string, and table?
L645[13:25:00] <S3> even coroutine
L646[13:25:19] <S3> and pairs, ipairs,
pcall, etc
L647[13:25:38] <gamax92> cool what's your
point
L648[13:25:48] <S3> my point is not
pointed
L649[13:25:53] <S3> in other news
L650[13:26:02] <S3> OCBSD will support ATM
for networking gamax92.
L651[13:26:09] <gamax92> don't know what
that is
L652[13:26:13] <S3> ?! WHAT
L654[13:27:04] <S3> itl prevent the need
for IP like stuff..
L655[13:27:10] <S3> technically
L656[13:27:26] <S3> and provide some
features that would be a pita with ethernet like stuff
L657[13:27:40] <S3> ATM can easily be
converted to be OClike :)
L658[13:28:10] <nxsupert>
Kon'nichiwa
L659[13:28:19] <S3> hi nxsupert
L660[13:28:46] <S3> gamax92: basically
think of virtual circuit switching instead of packet
switching
L661[13:28:59] <S3> which may sound crude
but it's extremely nice for your long distance loops
L662[13:29:04] *
gamax92 puts a drum track to S3
L663[13:29:07] <S3> as ethernet is
extremely spammy
L665[13:29:40] <S3> I need to come up with
a plan btw for OCBSD to handle ports on the network card
components
L666[13:30:05] <S3> maybe I should allow
you to specify the port it is on in ifconfig ?
L667[13:30:36] <S3> ifconfig ne0 port
50
L668[13:32:07] <S3> because with ATM and
stuff all network data would go on the same port
L669[13:35:00] <S3> I could also allow you
to specify a list of alias ports for it to listen on
technically..
L670[13:35:23] <S3> gamax92:the
alternative is to at boot open ALL ports. What do you think?
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L674[13:35:44] <gamax92> I believe there
is a limit on how many ports you can open
L675[13:35:46] <gamax92>
soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
L676[13:35:56]
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L677[13:54:04] <vifino> halp i am writing
documentation kill me
L678[13:54:14] <ProbablyKodos> Use more
markdown
L679[13:54:21] <vifino> ProbablyKodos:
It's all markdown.
L680[13:54:47] <vifino> I still need half
my sanity, no thank you, I'll only use markdown.
L682[13:55:47] <gamax92> I don't own a
vita so no comment
L683[13:55:54] <vifino> Look at the docs
>_>
L684[13:56:01] <vifino> tell me if it's
garbage or not <_<
L685[14:01:12] <ProbablyKodos> Oooh server
error light suggestions
L686[14:01:20] <ProbablyKodos>
s/ions/ion
L687[14:01:20] <Kibibyte>
<ProbablyKodos> Oooh server error light suggestion
L688[14:01:58] <ProbablyKodos> What about
a way to change the color of the light to one of the 16 arbitary
colors :x
L689[14:03:45] <vifino> Server
disco!
L690[14:03:46] <vifino> :D
L691[14:03:53] *
vifino demands
L692[14:05:01] <nxsupert> I have turned my
raspberry pi into a super nintendo :D
L693[14:06:27] <ProbablyKodos> Berries and
cream, berries and cream, I'm a little lad who loves berries and
cream
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L695[14:22:57] <S3> course nxsupert is
afk
L696[14:23:09] <nxsupert> No.
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L699[14:26:17] <S3> nxsupert:you don't
have the SOPT specs?
L701[14:29:02] <Vexatos> Sooooo
L702[14:29:05] <Vexatos> would anyone like
to test it?
L703[14:29:10] <Vexatos> The Colorful
Upgrade?
L704[14:30:52] <ProbablyKodos> uwot
L705[14:31:27] <Vexatos> hold on, I'm
preparing a gfy ;P
L706[14:31:44] <ProbablyKodos> Well hurry,
I have to do dishes Soon(tm)
L708[14:33:20] <Vexatos> gfy still
uploading
L709[14:33:21] <ProbablyKodos> Also holy
shit, I've made like 20 bucks on SL Affiliate vendors
L710[14:33:46] <ProbablyKodos> Vexatos: I
am in Vancouver Washington on my mother in law's laptop. My PC is
back home in Illinois
L711[14:33:54] <Vexatos> vifino, for some
reason I can't access your server on this computer ;_;
L712[14:33:56] <Vexatos> it just... times
out
L713[14:34:02] <vifino> @_@
L714[14:34:04] <Vexatos> (using
FileZilla)
L715[14:34:37] <vifino> Huh, wiki is slow
tday.
L716[14:34:39] <vifino> today*B
L717[14:34:45] <vifino> ut other than
that, works fine for me.
L718[14:35:01] <Vexatos> filezilla works
fine from my laptop, too
L719[14:35:21] <Vexatos> just not from
this computer
L721[14:35:34] <vifino> Vexatos: Can you
ping it?
L722[14:35:49] <vifino> If not, something
is broken with your network.
L723[14:36:22] <Vexatos> let's see
L724[14:36:27] <ProbablyKodos> Ehhh, looks
okay
L725[14:36:41] <Vexatos> 5/5 pings went
through
L726[14:36:44] <Vexatos> 0% packet
loss
L727[14:36:49] <vifino> ?!
L728[14:36:51] <Vexatos> did "ping
tty.sh"
L729[14:36:58] <Temia> :O
L730[14:37:02] <ProbablyKodos> Going to
the store, back soon
L731[14:37:02] <Temia> Rainbow bot!
L732[14:37:03] <vifino> And going to
files.vex.tty.sh and stuffs?
L733[14:37:06] <Vexatos> website works
too
L734[14:37:10] <Vexatos> just SFTP
doesn't
L735[14:37:14] <vifino> Weird. Very
weird.
L736[14:37:22] <vifino> Windows, I
guess?
L737[14:37:29] <Vexatos> Linux Mint
L738[14:37:36] <vifino> Oh, nice.
L739[14:37:51] <Vexatos> my laptop is on
windows, that one works (but I needed to increase timeout delay as
it took ~ 20 seconds to connect)
L740[14:37:52] <vifino> Welp, I have no
clue. With windows neither, but I could at least blame windows
being windows..
L741[14:38:31] <vifino> Vexatos: Checked
your dns?
L742[14:38:41] <vifino> We had that issue
before :P
L743[14:39:03] <Vexatos> vifino, let me
try pinging the IP directly
L744[14:39:09] <Vexatos> through
filezilla
L745[14:40:14] <Vexatos> Nope, doesn't
work either
L746[14:41:31] <vifino> weird.
L747[14:41:43] <Vexatos> (Using the IP
ping tty.sh gave me)
L748[14:42:45] <vifino> weird, very very
weird.
L749[14:43:02] <Vexatos> still trying to
connect, will probably fail
L750[14:43:09] <Vexatos> (set timeout to 5
minutes just to make sure)
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L760[15:49:37] <Ekoserin> My cat doesn't
like screwdrivers.
L761[15:49:55] <vifino> Screw your
cat.
L762[15:50:08] <Ekoserin> Ayy
L763[15:50:52] *
Skye hands Ekoserin and vifino come CAT6a cables
L764[15:51:09] <Ekoserin> What am I
supposed to do with this?
L765[15:51:17] <vifino> Huh, I just needed
that for the office.
L766[15:51:20] <vifino> Thanks Skye.
L767[15:51:23] <Skye> haha
L768[15:51:47] <Skye> Ekoserin, feed it,
pet it, take care of it
L769[15:52:01] <Skye> or torture it by
using it to connect computers
L770[15:52:14] <Ekoserin> But that's what
it was made for (right?)
L771[15:52:50] <Skye> ETHERNET CABLES ARE
ANIMALS TOO!
L772[15:54:33] <gamax92> no, they really
aren't
L773[15:54:37] *
vifino bursts into laughter
L774[15:55:59] <Skye> gamax92, you're mean
and cruel.
L775[15:57:10] <gamax92> thats nice, but
ethernet cables aren't animals
L776[15:57:28] <Skye> NICE?!
L777[15:57:35] <Skye> yes they are!
L778[15:57:40] *
Skye pets an ethernet cable
L779[15:57:45] <Skye> isn't it cute
L780[15:57:50] <Ekoserin> No, it
isn't
L781[15:58:10] <gamax92> no it's a ugly
cable that should be hidden away with the other cables, called
cable management
L782[15:58:46] <Skye> why are you so
mean
L783[16:00:06] *
Magik6k LOLd
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L786[16:01:55] <nxsupert> ha
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L788[16:11:00] <vifino> I love it.
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L794[16:26:25] <S3> Skye: OCBSD's first
network protocol will not be ethernet!
L797[16:26:39] <S3> so ethernet cables can
go away
L798[16:26:41] <Skye> uh,
L799[16:26:51] <Skye> OC hasn't got
ethernet
L800[16:26:58] <S3> it can
L801[16:27:14] <S3> Ethernet is just a
protocol :P
L802[16:27:27] <Skye> meh
L803[16:27:45] <S3> instead OCBSD will
first support ATM
L804[16:27:57] <S3> It's going to be
fun
L805[16:28:08] <vifino> So, uh. I'm
somehow using comic sans mono as my terminal font. Well, it's not
comic sans. And it doesn't look bad.
L807[16:28:26] <S3> instead of using a 6
byte mac address in the address packets, an 8 byte UUID of the
network adaptor will be used :)
L808[16:28:28] <vifino> Looks quite
good.
L809[16:28:29] <S3> neat eh
L810[16:28:50] <vifino> Not sure if I'll
switch back to Ubuntu Mono soon.My
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L812[16:29:05] <vifino> My eyes love
Ubuntu Mono*
L814[16:29:40] <S3> Love and ubuntu in the
same sentence
L815[16:29:44] <S3> what is this world
coming to
L816[16:30:06] <vifino> S3: Shut the fuck
up.
L817[16:30:13] <Magik6k> If you mean the
ubuntu font, I'm able to agree
L818[16:30:14] <vifino> It's a font.
L819[16:30:24] <vifino> Not Unity.
L820[16:30:27] <S3> The best font is
Terminus
L821[16:30:43] <vifino> That is personal
preference.
L822[16:30:47] <S3> Terminus is like ISO
now actually
L823[16:30:55] <gamax92> isn't Terminus a
bitmap font :/
L824[16:31:11] <S3> gamax92: if you have a
mac?
L825[16:31:18] <S3> I have a vector
Terminus :"D
L826[16:31:20] <CompanionCube> regarding
the .sucks domains:
L828[16:31:28] <S3> so meh
L829[16:31:35] <gamax92> I don't see why
mac is relevant but okay
L830[16:32:19] *
Lizzy is using "DejaVu Sans Mono" on her hexchat,
mate-terminal font is Monospace (on main computer)
L831[16:32:32] <vifino> gamax92: S3 is a
hipster of hipsters.
L832[16:32:35] <S3> gamax92: because
there's only bitmap terminus fonts for macs
L833[16:32:38] <gamax92> Yeah I generally
use the DejaVu fonts
L834[16:32:42] <S3> because apple
sucks
L835[16:32:52] <gamax92> but Ubuntu's
fonts are also pretty nice
L836[16:32:52] <Magik6k> CompanionCube, Is
that an ISP that doesn't actually consider his clients being
idiots?
L837[16:33:06] <S3> my ISP is very
nice
L838[16:33:07] <CompanionCube> Magik6k,
yess
L839[16:33:12] <CompanionCube> one
actually exists in the UK
L840[16:33:14] *
Lizzy wonders what her laptop is using
L841[16:33:18] <CompanionCube> must be a
unicorn
L842[16:33:45] <Magik6k> Wish I had one
like that here in poland
L843[16:33:45] <S3> I Magik6k I can
reliably call up my DSL provider and get somebody local at the
office and ask them to check partiticular tone frequencies I
noticed in the telnet console of my modem
L844[16:34:06] <CompanionCube> Magik6k,
the managing director keeps a blog
L845[16:34:14] <CompanionCube> is usually
an interesting read
L846[16:34:16] <gamax92> I also don't
really know what's so bad about Ubuntu, it's a very popular distro
of linux and thus is widely supported
L847[16:34:25] <S3> I can ask them to
disable some of the bad tones if the connection gets bad
L848[16:34:32] <S3> to try and speed it up
a bit
L849[16:34:49] <CompanionCube> shouldn't
the modems do that automatically
L850[16:34:51] <S3> without them going
wha?
L851[16:34:54] <Magik6k> gamax92, It's a
mess inside + it barely works
L852[16:35:00] <S3> CompanionCube: not
always
L853[16:35:20] <S3> maybe if you live in
civilization
L854[16:35:23] <Magik6k> And community
tutorials don't work for 99.999% of time
L855[16:35:26] <gamax92> Magik6k: my
experience with it completely differs from that but sure you can
have your own beliefs and I'll have my own
L856[16:35:40] <S3> oh Magik6k btw OCBSD's
first network protocol will be ATM.
L857[16:35:47] <gamax92> also differing in
that aspect
L858[16:35:50] <S3> Just sayin. I'm
excited to implement it
L859[16:35:51] <Magik6k> noice
L860[16:35:57] <CompanionCube> Magik6k, if
you're interested the blog is at revk.uk
L861[16:36:42] *
CompanionCube would totally buy his interwebs from them despite
being expensive compared to most other ISPs
L862[16:38:01] <Lizzy> okay, my laptop
uses monospace as well for mate-terminal, at size 9 where pc is
size 10
L863[16:38:14] <S3> lizzy uses mate
L864[16:38:15] *
CompanionCube uses Pragmata Pro
L865[16:38:18] <S3> Interesting
L866[16:38:19] <CompanionCube> yarr'd it
though
L867[16:38:27] <S3> I compile mate for my
fiance on her slackware laptop
L868[16:38:58] <S3> But I prefer Fluxbox,
though my fiance doesn't mind Fluxbox
L869[16:39:02] <Lizzy> S3, Laptop is Linux
Mint Mate edition from install, pc was Cinnamon but switched to
MATE after cinnamon had issues
L870[16:39:58] <S3> Cinnamon is an
issue
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L872[16:40:10] <Lizzy> also the linux
console font on my laptop is Terminus 12x6
L873[16:40:22] <S3> vifino: Mint is the
new hipster distribution
L874[16:40:24] <Lizzy> don't use the
console tty's on my desktop
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L876[16:41:18] *
gamax92 grabs some popcorn as S3 throws out more and more fallacies
as facts
L877[16:41:41] <CompanionCube> S3, surely
the hipster distro would be some form of modded OSX?
L878[16:42:01] <Lizzy> well, i do if
something goes wrong but for some reason the kernel uses my crappy
tv monitor and not the proper one
L879[16:42:06] <S3> you mean OSX?
L880[16:42:10] <S3> OSX is modifier
OSX.
L882[16:42:14] <S3> modified*
L883[16:42:30] <S3> running on Mach and
Darwin which is like, NetBSD + FreeBSD with masochism.
L884[16:42:34] <vifino> That makes no
sense, but so does all what you say.
L885[16:42:39] <gamax92> I ... wat
L886[16:42:46] <gamax92> bbl
L887[16:42:51] <gamax92> vifino: tell me
when it leaves
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L890[16:43:07] <CompanionCube> ...not suue
where the masochism comes in
L891[16:43:17] <S3> well it's OSX
L892[16:43:25] <S3> every OSX is built
against libmasochist
L893[16:43:36] <CompanionCube> but yeah,
OSX is a clusterfucky hybrid in that sense. Not so much in the
functionality sense though
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L895[16:44:50] <S3> osx is not
functional.
L896[16:45:32] <S3> if it were haskell
users would love it
L897[16:45:51] <Lizzy> ¬_¬ why does the
shitty tv monitor have 1440x900 as it's default mode?
L898[16:46:15] <Lizzy> i might get another
one of my good monitors and just do away with the tv
L899[16:46:58] * S3
pats his CRT
L900[16:57:18] <Lizzy> I wonder if i
connected the crappy monitor via hdmi instead of vga
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L906[17:22:19] <vifino> Sadly it's
censored.
L907[17:22:47] <Temia> ... :I
L908[17:22:53] *
Temia looms over vifino
L909[17:23:05] <vifino> '.'
L910[17:23:15] *
Temia looooooms 8I
L911[17:23:24] <vifino> ' . '
L912[17:23:26] *
Lizzy flops on vifino's lap
L913[17:23:27] *
Temia nosebeep. silly.
L914[17:23:37] *
vifino holds his nose
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L926[18:57:53] <Ekoserin> Magic6k:
neat
L927[18:58:35] <Ekoserin> Crap, my GPU is
artifacting.
L928[18:59:42] <ProbablyKodos> My artifact
is GPUing.
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L930[19:01:34] <Temia> Kodos, please don't
plug a codex of the infinite planes into your computer
L931[19:01:48] <Temia> Just because it has
a component interface doesn't mean it's a good idea ever
L932[19:02:15] <ProbablyKodos> I have no
idea what you just said but I have starbucks and muffins so
fukkit
L933[19:03:01] <Temia> I'm referring to an
artifact, of course `o`
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L935[19:07:00] <vifino> I made a lua
sandbox command for my slack team :3
L936[19:07:10] <vifino> All hail my
awesome webserver :3
L937[19:10:23] <Ekoserin> Anyone here play
Surgeon Simulator?
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L940[19:34:39] <ds84182> Never use the
Joda Time library on Android.
L941[19:34:44] <ds84182> It's a death
sentence.
L942[19:36:52] <Dashkal> That library...
It has such promise, and manages to fail to deliver in all sorts of
subtle ways...
L943[19:37:19] <ds84182> Dashkal: It has
an insane amount of methods
L944[19:37:41] <ds84182> But the port of
the Java 8 time library feels the same exact way, but with less
methods
L945[19:37:49] <Dashkal> Heh, I have many
complaints about it. Mostly because I wanted it to actually be
better than the standard lib stuff...
L946[19:38:00] <ds84182> I had to turn on
multidex in my app just because I added joda time
L947[19:38:08] <Dashkal> They promised it
was better! What I got was simply a different set of issues.
L948[19:38:16] <ds84182> I replaced it
with the java 8 port and added another library
L949[19:38:20] <ds84182> Now I don't need
multidex
L950[19:38:44] <Dashkal> I'm a scala dev.
I need to proguard stuff to dabble there just be default.\
L951[19:38:59] <Dashkal> just by
default*
L952[19:39:09] <Dashkal> My typing, it
gets worse at the end of the day.
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L958[20:27:47] <rjs232323> #lua
0.0==0.0
L959[20:27:51] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
true
L960[20:29:02] <gamax92> #lua
0.0==1/math.huge
L961[20:29:02] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
true
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L963[20:30:31] <rjs232323> XD
L964[20:30:50] <rjs232323> #lua 0 ==
0/0
L965[20:30:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
false
L966[20:30:53] <rjs232323> oh :C
L967[20:31:12] <gamax92> 0/0 is -nan
L968[20:31:26] <rjs232323> #lua 0 ==
0/0+nan
L969[20:31:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value
(global 'nan')
L970[20:31:32] <rjs232323> better.
L971[20:31:38] <gamax92> #lua nan =
-(0/0)
L972[20:31:38] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L973[20:31:58] <rjs232323> #lua 0==
(0/0)-(0/0)
L974[20:31:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
false
L975[20:32:03] <rjs232323> but, thats
wrong!
L976[20:32:08] <gamax92> nope
L977[20:32:26] <rjs232323> if 4-4 =
0
L978[20:32:35] <rjs232323> why does (0/0)
- (0/0) not 0
L979[20:32:42] <gamax92> nan for any
operation results in nan
L980[20:32:46] <gamax92> #lua nan *
2
L981[20:32:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nan
L982[20:32:47] <Ditchbuster> becuase 0/0
is not a number
L983[20:32:49] <gamax92> #lua nan *
nan
L984[20:32:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nan
L985[20:32:52] <gamax92> #lua nan
/nan
L986[20:32:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nan
L987[20:32:53] <Ditchbuster> aka
undefined
L988[20:33:05] <rjs232323> would you
say
L989[20:33:08] <rjs232323> infinity is a
number?
L990[20:33:18] <rjs232323> a number that
remains untouched by humankind
L991[20:33:22] <Ditchbuster> no
L992[20:33:28] <gamax92> yes
L993[20:33:41] <gamax92> #lua math.huge -
math.huge
L994[20:33:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
-nan
L995[20:33:44] <gamax92> ... oh
L996[20:33:47] <Ditchbuster> the
mathimatical term for 0/0 is undefined
L997[20:33:49] <gamax92> nvm, no
L998[20:34:01] <rjs232323> i see
L999[20:34:06] <Ditchbuster> its not
infinity and it is not zero
L1000[20:34:31] <gamax92> I thought it
was indeterminate form
L1001[20:34:36] <Ditchbuster> so
undefined minus undefined is still undefined thus not equal 0
L1002[20:34:56] <Ditchbuster> gamax92, i
think thats saying the same thing?
L1003[20:35:45] <Ditchbuster> not sure. i
was always taught the term undefined but i think indeterminate
would be the same.. though we have surpased my math knowledge
L1004[20:52:46] <ProbablyKodos> TIL
reCaptcha is unpaid labor
L1005[20:54:03] <Temia> These days not so
much. It seems to have reverted to just an "I am not a
robot" checkmark in a lot of places
L1006[20:57:09] <gamax92> But what if I
am a robot
L1007[20:59:31] <Temia> Then ReCaptcha is
full of jers
L1008[20:59:34] <Temia> *jerks
L1009[20:59:37] <Temia> Racist
jerks
L1010[20:59:45] <ProbablyKodos> TIL
encryption strength can be measured by the amount of water that can
be boiled by the energy needed to crack it. Cracking 2380-Bit RSA
once would require enough energy to boil the world's supply of
water
L1011[21:00:01] <Temia> Like
L1012[21:00:05] <Temia> Potable water or
ALL water?
L1013[21:00:36] <ProbablyKodos> All, I
would assume
L1014[21:00:43] <ProbablyKodos> I didn't
click the link
L1015[21:00:46] <Temia> The NSA is
causing global warming `-`
L1017[21:01:20] <gamax92> you know what
would be nice, if the magnetosphere died
L1018[21:02:50] <Temia> I don't think the
magnetosphere is alive
L1019[21:04:31] *
gamax92 is struggling to think of examples of things that aren't
alive but can die
L1020[21:04:58] <gamax92>
batteries!
L1021[21:05:10] <gamax92> A battery can
die, but most people wouldn't say it's alive
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L1027[22:16:27] <ProbablyKodos> Speaking
of batteries, I need to find a mod that adds multiblock large
capacity energy storage
L1028[22:16:42] <ProbablyKodos> Mekanism
is nice, but there's no way to scale down the output once I get the
energy into the EIMs
L1029[22:18:11] *
gamax92 pokes Temia, points to battery example :<
L1030[22:24:58] <Temia> meep?
L1031[22:25:03] <Temia> Oh.
L1032[22:25:48] <rjs232323> #lua
0x00ff51
L1033[22:25:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
65361
L1034[22:27:34] <rjs232323> have you try
the enderio bank
L1035[22:27:55] <rjs232323> its the
multiblock capacity energy bank
L1036[22:28:01] <rjs232323> that
stacks
L1037[22:28:17] <ProbablyKodos> I don't
use EIO
L1038[22:31:33] <brandon3055> Ok time to
start adding integration for both OC and CC to DE!
L1039[22:31:40] <rjs232323> well uh, how
about using tesseract and connect it to itemducts in a cube fashion
and cover it with covers or microforges?
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L1041[22:31:45] <rjs232323> DE?
L1042[22:32:01] <brandon3055> Draconic
Evolution
L1043[22:32:10] <rjs232323> :O
L1044[22:32:19] <ProbablyKodos> Brandon
is the DE dev =)
L1045[22:32:48] <ProbablyKodos>
brandon3055: what are the rules for the Draconic Reactor ignoring
blast resistance?
L1046[22:32:49] <rjs232323> oh!
L1047[22:32:51] <rjs232323> nice to meet
you btw
L1048[22:34:42] <brandon3055> Ok the way
the explosion works is it sends out a shockwave that compeatly
ignonores blast resistance. That shockwave then expands up and down
and the expandion dose NOT ignore blast resistance.
L1049[22:35:59] <ProbablyKodos> Ah, so
blastproofing my reactor chamber is moot then
L1050[22:36:13] <ProbablyKodos> That
seems rather... grief-prone
L1051[22:37:32] <rjs232323> Brandon, what
kind of integration are you speaking off? I havent played with your
mod yet
L1052[22:37:45] <rjs232323> I know that
it does impressive power generation and high tiers
tools/weapons
L1053[22:37:45] <brandon3055> Well i
think it would be WAY to much work to get that reactor for most
grifers
L1054[22:38:38] <brandon3055> The first
thing will be the ability to monitor and crontroll the reactor with
computers
L1055[22:39:02] <rjs232323> that would be
neat
L1056[22:40:12] <brandon3055> What are
some good examples i can use to figure out the API?
L1057[22:40:57] <rjs232323> like OC lua
scripts ?
L1058[22:41:04] <ProbablyKodos> No, he
means using the API
L1059[22:41:05] <rjs232323> I may have
some of them, its for Big Reactor tho
L1060[22:41:08] <rjs232323> oh
L1061[22:41:39] <ProbablyKodos>
brandon3055: I'd ask Vexatos or Sanger. I have zero clue or I'd
help.
L1062[22:41:47] <rjs232323> ye same
L1063[22:42:54] <brandon3055> ok well i
was going to take a look at computronics anyway so that will
probably be a good place to start
L1064[22:43:57] <brandon3055> Hmm... any
idea why i cant open the OC dev jar?
L1065[22:45:01] <ProbablyKodos> I don't
think you do, you throw it in your dev env
L1067[22:46:14] <brandon3055> yea but it
should still be a regular jar file which i should be able to
open.
L1068[22:47:17] *
ProbablyKodos shrugs
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L1070[23:03:47] <Sandra> it seems like
everyone is making GUI frameworks for OC.
L1071[23:03:50] <Sandra> ok.
L1072[23:04:49] <Sandra> brandon3055, why
do you want to open the dev jar...?
L1073[23:05:25] <brandon3055> Dont need
to just thought it was odd that i couldnt
L1074[23:05:32] <Sandra> yeah.
L1075[23:06:09] <Sandra> I've done
integration before so I can help a little.
L1076[23:06:35] <Sandra> the oc api has a
bunch of stuff that noone has ever had any need to use but it's
cool.
L1077[23:07:27] <brandon3055> ok well
this is the place i will ask when i need help with anything
L1078[23:11:37] <rjs232323> so the oc api
is for other mods I take it?
L1079[23:11:49] <rjs232323> like api is
for big reactor and stuff?
L1080[23:12:28] <Sandra> yes.
L1081[23:12:51] <Sandra> the most common
usage is adding components that OC can access.
L1082[23:13:03] <rjs232323> I see
L1083[23:13:27] <Sandra> so adapter
drivers, block components.
L1084[23:13:34] <Sandra> then people make
upgrades.
L1085[23:13:54] <Sandra> and then we have
the complex things like whole other machines that people
make.
L1086[23:14:03] <Sandra> except that
noone seems to have those.
L1087[23:14:13] <Sandra> people do have
custom CPU architectures though
L1088[23:14:17] <Sandra> which is
cool.
L1089[23:16:43] <Sandra> there's a WIP js
architecture, and a WIP arm architecture.
L1090[23:17:18] <Sandra> OC is very well
coded.
L1091[23:21:22] <rjs232323> What, someone
is actively working on the js architecture?!
L1092[23:21:49] <rjs232323> OC is very
impressive mod
L1093[23:21:57] <rjs232323> its beyond me
but I like it
L1094[23:22:07] <Sandra> well... I don't
know if someone is actively working on it.
L1095[23:22:12] <Sandra> it's
unfinished.
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L1097[23:23:00] <rjs232323> I see. well I
know js very well. It would be a neat addition to oc if someone
finishes it. I'ma google it now that you mentioned it lol
L1098[23:23:50] <Sandra> it works
apparently though.
L1099[23:24:10] <Sandra> it doesn't come
with any code.
L1100[23:24:14] <Sandra> but apparently
it works?
L1101[23:24:16] <Sandra> i dunno.
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L1104[23:25:38] <Sandra> yep, that's the
one.
L1105[23:26:08] <rjs232323> excellent. I
need to play with it later. I can't believe I didn't bother looking
it up sooner >>
L1106[23:26:13] <rjs232323> so much fail
on my part
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L1109[23:32:05] <sugoi> gamax92: i just
made my final updates to my modem PR - a robust solution for a host
machine to shutdown and notify clients there is no more active host
machine - and the next client to try to use the network is promoted
as host
L1110[23:32:52] <sugoi> the pr fixes all
the bugs i know of for the modem - it's pretty solid. let me know
if you'd like me to adjust anything
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