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L5[00:27:48] * gamax92 makes a person simulator
L6[00:43:36] <gamax92> "I wonder if there was a way to send serial data source such as a generic 'failure to insert materials, get the axe."
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L28[04:11:17] <ccsonic> Heyho! Has anyone here made a program controlling a reactor of bigreactors maybe ?
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L30[04:13:20] <Vexatos> I did
L31[04:13:27] <Vexatos> You can even download it via OPPM
L32[04:13:27] <Vexatos> :P
L33[04:24:29] <ccsonic> oppm ?
L34[04:28:19] <ccsonic> oh the online downloading thing, yeah. for some reason it didnt really work so well when I tried
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L37[04:42:23] <Vexatos> Sangar: Pokedy poke
L38[04:42:30] <Vexatos> I might have found an issue with hover boots
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L40[05:13:36] <Sangar> lies
L41[05:17:24] <sugoi> well that's when they aren't working
L42[05:17:30] <sugoi> they...lie
L43[05:17:43] <sugoi> gamax92: y'up?
L44[05:17:57] <Sangar> badum-tish
L45[05:18:04] <sugoi> Sangar: thank you, thank you
L46[05:18:25] * Sangar inb4 .com via vex
L47[05:19:05] <Vexatos> badum-tish.com
L48[05:19:21] <Vexatos> Sangar, if the hover boots' charge level gets lower, it starts increasing in metadata
L49[05:19:35] <Vexatos> if you charge them back up, they stay at their metadata level
L50[05:19:52] <Vexatos> until they get lower than they were before, then they start increasing in metadata again
L51[05:19:59] <Vexatos> so it increases, but never decreases
L52[05:20:09] <Vexatos> I assume at 15000 metadata it will eventually break
L53[05:21:09] <Sangar> uhhh, i'm pretty sure they don't change the metadata at all; if anything that's just the display damage
L54[05:21:17] <Sangar> weird tho
L55[05:21:19] <Sangar> make an issue
L56[05:21:33] <Vexatos> According to NEI, metadata changes
L57[05:21:41] <Vexatos> Btw, do solar upgrades work in a Tablet?
L58[05:25:36] <Vexatos> Hmm
L59[05:25:40] <Vexatos> apparently they do
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L61[05:37:54] <Vexatos> Sangar, what's the max resolution on tablets? Tier 1 like robots?
L62[05:38:04] <Sangar> t2
L63[05:38:20] <Vexatos> Ok, then I'll make a T2 graphics card
L64[05:49:31] <Vexatos> Sangar, I found something out, check the github issue
L65[05:57:10] <dangranos> http://imgur.com/gallery/6vPZYws
L66[05:57:16] <dangranos> #7 is nice
L67[05:57:17] <dangranos> though
L68[05:57:51] <dangranos> if it's possible for someone that is not you see your browser history or delete it, that's not really good
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L73[06:40:46] <Lizzy> meep
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L78[07:45:12] <vifino> meep
L79[07:45:27] <gamax92> peem
L80[07:46:51] <vifino> Anyways, restarting weechat.
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L82[07:50:35] <vifino> Much better.
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L88[09:06:44] <AlleM43> i am chatting from a oc computer in minecraft
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L93[09:42:59] <Tomten> tja
L94[09:43:04] <Tomten> jfosasf
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L110[12:30:10] <sugoi> gamax92: i was looking to make the sdl window slightly more user friendly for just myself, but one thing i think could be change would be to have the window NOT grab the mouse.
L111[12:30:48] <vifino> God damnit.
L112[12:30:55] <vifino> I suck at the newer contra's.
L113[12:31:21] <vifino> Contra the original. That's a game I played more than a thousand hours on.
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L115[12:43:12] <sugoi> gamax92: also, do you know why the window goes fullscreen on create? i've stried even setting it to setWindowFullscreen(window, SDL.FALSE) without any change in behavior (i.e. it still starts fullscreen)
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L117[12:49:58] <ds84182> vifino: SENNNNNNNNPAIIIIIIIII~!
L118[12:50:08] <Magik6k> .p
L119[12:50:12] <^v> Ping reply from Magik6k 3.6s
L120[12:50:14] <ds84182> .p
L121[12:50:14] <^v> Ping reply from ds84182 0.27s
L122[12:50:15] <Magik6k> .p
L123[12:50:16] <^v> Ping reply from Magik6k 0.58s
L124[12:50:22] <vifino> Hello ds84182.
L125[12:50:38] <ds84182> Bye lol
L126[12:51:43] <vifino> ds84182: What do you want from me? .-.
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L128[12:54:23] <Wobbo> o/
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L130[13:01:05] <Magik6k> .p
L131[13:01:06] <^v> Ping reply from Magik6k 0.51s
L132[13:01:26] <gamax92> O_O
L133[13:01:31] <gamax92> sugoi: the window is fullscreen?
L134[13:01:41] <gamax92> sugoi: the window grabs the mouse?
L135[13:01:49] <sugoi> gamax92: on my windows machines (2) it has always been fullscreen initially
L136[13:01:51] <gamax92> because it shouldn't do that for both
L137[13:01:52] <sugoi> haha, yes
L138[13:01:59] <sugoi> it does both of those things
L139[13:02:21] <gamax92> on my linux machines (3) and windows machines (2) it has never done either
L140[13:02:23] <sugoi> mouse grab disabling works fine with a call to setWinodwGrab false
L141[13:02:30] <sugoi> huh, interesting
L142[13:03:02] <sugoi> in fact, on my two monitor display, i can't even get out of fullscreen
L143[13:03:29] <gamax92> you have OS X right? does it do the same thing there?
L144[13:03:54] <sugoi> i do have a couple macs, i could test that later
L145[13:04:04] <gamax92> I'd appreciate that
L146[13:06:21] <gamax92> also I was thinking about a terminal backend, though my only issue is how to determine the width of characters from a terminal
L147[13:10:02] <sugoi> to be honest
L148[13:10:04] <sugoi> i'd like that
L149[13:10:15] <sugoi> the width could be superficially imposed
L150[13:10:25] <sugoi> maaaybe even ncurses
L151[13:10:52] <gamax92> doesn't ncurses have various issues regarding character widths and so?
L152[13:10:56] <Wobbo> gamax92: popen("stty size") should work
L153[13:11:19] <Wobbo> Also, I have a Mac on, so if I need to test something
L154[13:11:22] <gamax92> A) platform specific, B) thats the terminal size
L155[13:11:38] <Wobbo> Oh, right, I see what you mean
L156[13:11:50] <Wobbo> Why would you need the width of a character?
L157[13:12:27] <gamax92> for stuff like the unicode api and somewhat accurate gpu emulation
L158[13:12:57] <gamax92> if you do fill with a wide character, even though you said 3x5 it'll do 6x5 iirc
L159[13:14:04] <gamax92> also for getting a character on the gpu, unless the terminal has some code to get what's there at a certain location
L160[13:14:13] * gamax92 pokes Magik6k
L161[13:15:19] <sugoi> gamax92: you can read the already "printed" chars
L162[13:15:22] <Wobbo> gamax92: What you generally speaking would do is erase a line and rewrite I belive, but that is not what you want. Maybe checking ncurses is not such a weird idea
L163[13:15:29] <sugoi> i dont know about wide char width issues with ncurses
L164[13:15:54] <Sangar> o/
L165[13:16:02] <sugoi> http://linux.die.net/man/3/inch
L166[13:16:06] <sugoi> hello Sangar
L167[13:16:30] <gamax92> sugoi: well that's because curses has a screen buffer iirc
L168[13:16:39] <gamax92> I'll look at curses again
L169[13:17:53] <Wobbo> o/
L170[13:24:02] <Sangar> i might actually work on oc again some more this weekend. have an idea for a new feature i want to evaluate how doable it is :>
L171[13:24:06] * Magik6k feels poked
L172[13:24:56] <gamax92> Magik6k: With you and you're having implemented terminal sequences in plan9k, is there stuff for widths of unicode characters (iirc is font dependent) or getting a character on screen?
L173[13:34:57] <sugoi> Sangar: i need to learn scala as i would greatly enjoy helping out where+when I can (you allow me, via prs, etc)
L174[13:35:45] <Sangar> sugoi, sure thing, there are enough issues tagged with open-for-adoption after all :P
L175[13:36:24] <Sangar> (also i'd say scala is worth learning just to know scala, but i suppose that's a matter of taste :X)
L176[13:36:30] <sugoi> open-for-adoption?! ha, a great way of referring to such code work
L177[13:36:54] <Temia> Needs cat ears.
L178[13:36:57] <Temia> And a cardboard box.
L179[13:37:07] * Temia ... eyes Vifino >.>
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L181[13:37:38] <vifino> '.'
L182[13:37:42] <sugoi> i'm a c++/c# dev (to a fault, according to pretty much everyone in this channel) and i really don't like java. not sure what i'll think of scala, but i'm always interested in learning new langauges. i believe it helps you program in general
L183[13:39:07] * Temia puts Vifino in a cardboard box. Takes a picture of. Posts in all the open-for-adoption issues.
L184[13:39:09] <Temia> There.
L185[13:39:09] * sugoi thinks that sounded whiney about 'to a fault', meh - didn't come out right
L186[13:39:11] <Temia> Instant adoption.
L187[13:39:17] <sugoi> haha
L188[13:39:18] <vifino> '^'
L189[13:39:30] <sugoi> i adopted my two cats i have currently
L190[13:39:36] <sugoi> great cats
L191[13:41:55] <Sangar> yeah, more languages are great, even better if they're very different, makes you thing differently about how to approach certain problems
L192[13:41:56] <Wobbo> sugoi: What don't you like about Java?
L193[13:42:27] <Sangar> scala is... probably closer to c# actually, functionally i mean. at least before java 8. since it has native anonymous functions and all that goodness
L194[13:42:37] <gamax92> "<TemiaBot> But until I'm on my assignments but I'm not sure how well Minecraft would run on Arch It's pretty damn good though. There's already way too much silver by default, yes."
L195[13:42:41] <Wobbo> Sangar: Unless you start learning haskell, than you want to solve basically everything with pattern matching and map + foldr :P
L196[13:42:44] <Sangar> if you've worked with LINQ you shouldn't have much issues with scala
L197[13:42:54] <gamax92> SangarBot
L198[13:42:56] <Sangar> Wobbo, hahaha
L199[13:42:57] <Temia> w-what
L200[13:42:58] <Sangar> welp
L201[13:42:59] <Temia> '-'
L202[13:43:25] <Sangar> gamax92, neural networks again? >_>
L203[13:44:03] <gamax92> the lines it produces can get way to long
L204[13:44:17] <gamax92> "<SangarBot> yeah, that evaluates to false when used in the print, and even then it's pretty much any version of that so make a few more utility things so it's a old/new key when getting it in sync with the ugly code in particular. traits / mutliple inheritance)"
L205[13:44:25] <Sangar> if it's SangarBot that's fine. i tend to write very long messages, too :P
L206[13:44:32] <gamax92> welp
L207[13:44:36] <sugoi> type erasure (no reification), boiler plate code for simple work (compare to anon methods, lambdas, catching exceptions, casting types, boxing primitives, operator overloading, getter/setter props, nested classes)
L208[13:44:45] <Sangar> that random ')'
L209[13:46:19] <gamax92> <SangarBot> if no one else offered, i can try to repro changing the base bath*
L210[13:46:35] <sugoi> um..implementing iterators (more boiler plate), java also uses runtime parameter type dispatch, which is just wrong
L211[13:46:37] <Sangar> the integration package is at 36+ mods now :X wonder how many other mods can beat that
L212[13:46:41] <gamax92> XD <SangarBot> dangranos, yeah, pretty much exactly as laggy as a way to generate power using their bodywarmth or whatever you bind it to in the day, after tomorrow!
L213[13:46:48] <Wobbo> sugoi: Scala has some of those things, like operator overloading and stuff like that
L214[13:46:53] <Sangar> the base bath? :X
L215[13:46:55] <Sangar> mkay
L216[13:47:06] <gamax92> Sangar: generic integration?
L217[13:47:16] <Wobbo> gamax92: A neural network that produces text? Tell me more
L218[13:47:23] <Sangar> gamax92, http://git.io/kkcmPg
L219[13:51:28] <Magik6k> gamax92, what do you mean by getting caracters on screen? just printing them out?
L220[13:51:38] <gamax92> like gpu.get
L221[13:51:44] <gamax92> so that I can write gpu.get :P
L222[13:51:59] <Magik6k> hmmm
L223[13:52:30] <Magik6k> actually I thought of fake gpu(and iirc have some code for that somewhere)
L224[13:52:44] <gamax92> ?
L225[13:53:10] <Magik6k> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/Plan9k/lib/term.lua#L256
L226[13:53:16] <gamax92> <WobboBot> . is french
L227[13:53:18] <Magik6k> not implemented fully iirc
L228[13:53:25] <Sangar> lol
L229[13:53:28] <Sangar> WobboBot best bot
L230[13:53:49] <gamax92> Magik6k: >_> these are not real codes
L231[13:54:00] <Magik6k> there are no codes for that
L232[13:54:05] <Magik6k> or
L233[13:54:08] <gamax92> I also didn't even say fill
L234[13:54:09] <Magik6k> actually
L235[13:54:13] <gamax92> why did you link me fill
L236[13:54:53] <Sangar> oh, gamax92. make a CommitBot :X
L237[13:54:53] <Magik6k> \x1b[<ROW>;<COL>H<TEXT>
L238[13:55:18] <Magik6k> hmm, save/rostore cursor would be useful here
L239[13:55:18] <gamax92> oh, what is this
L240[13:55:43] <Magik6k> \x1b[r;cH moves cursor
L241[13:56:01] <gamax92> and how is that supposed to get characters?
L242[13:56:16] <Wobbo> gamax92: How do you make all these bots? Are they markov chains?
L243[13:56:31] <gamax92> no
L244[13:56:32] <Magik6k> oh, you meant to get stuff from screen
L245[13:56:37] <Magik6k> derp
L246[13:56:42] <gamax92> yes
L247[13:56:47] <gamax92> "like gpu.get"
L248[13:56:56] <gamax92> do you not know what gpu.get does?
L249[13:56:59] <gamax92> it's not fill
L250[13:57:02] <gamax92> nor is it set
L251[13:57:04] <Magik6k> I know
L252[13:57:07] <gamax92> do you?
L253[13:57:13] <Magik6k> yep
L254[13:57:15] <Magik6k> umm
L255[13:57:34] <Magik6k> actually, is there any 'real' sequence for that
L256[13:57:43] <gamax92> that's what I'm asking
L257[13:58:16] <Magik6k> so that'd probably mean another custom sequence
L258[13:58:33] <gamax92> no
L259[13:58:40] <gamax92> I can't make custom sequences in a real terminal
L260[13:59:04] <Magik6k> and you can't get stuff from them
L261[13:59:08] * vifino crawls out of the box and stares at Temia
L262[13:59:16] <gamax92> I only asked because you had to deal with and reimplement a bunch of shit in plan9k for stuff like that
L263[13:59:18] <gamax92> nvm
L264[13:59:55] <Magik6k> I plan 'fake' gpu component operating on top of term
L265[14:00:03] <Magik6k> so ssh works better
L266[14:00:20] <Magik6k> and errors are on right screen
L267[14:03:36] <sugoi> wait...does java hava void return type?
L268[14:03:48] <Magik6k> probably
L269[14:04:43] <Wobbo> sugoi: Yeah
L270[14:04:53] <sugoi> ok, misread something
L271[14:04:59] <sugoi> i was enjoying some anti-java posts
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L273[14:09:13] <Wobbo> gamax92: But seriously, can you link me some docs or something as to how these bots works? I interested.
L274[14:10:21] <gamax92> it takes two words from the beginning of a random sentence, and then searches randomly through other sentences for the last two words of the building sentence and uses whatever comes after that as the next word
L275[14:10:54] <Wobbo> That does sound like a markov chain.
L276[14:11:01] <gamax92> nope
L277[14:11:17] <Wobbo> And then it just keeps chaining that way to get new words?
L278[14:11:23] <gamax92> yes
L279[14:11:27] <Wobbo> How is it different?
L280[14:11:55] <gamax92> modern markov chains are usually a crap load more complicated, so if it is a markov one it's a basic/unusual one
L281[14:12:26] <Wobbo> Well, you are lacking a clear transition table, but that is really the only difference
L282[14:13:05] <gamax92> markov chains have various states and probabilities and statistics and stuffs
L283[14:13:21] <gamax92> the state in this bot is literally only the last two words on the new sentence
L284[14:13:28] <Wobbo> But the underlying principle is really the same.
L285[14:14:10] <Wobbo> gamax92: That is also true for more compilacated ones normally. an algorithm that takes earlier things into consideration is not a markov chain
L286[14:14:37] <gamax92> ... how so
L287[14:15:13] <Wobbo> A markov chain assumes the markov property, which states that a new state can be predicted from the current state and nothing more.
L288[14:16:39] <Wobbo> So to build a markvo chain all you need is a transition matrix that maps states to new states. If you then want to make predictions(generate sentences in this case) you simply give it one starting state and repeate the process with the output.
L289[14:23:40] <gamax92> <WobboBot> Internals are like: find worthwhile coordinates. That might be intersting as well! it should. only kill your arm under is weird to see the value of homebrew and link it with piracy
L290[14:24:48] <Wobbo> I recognize a lot of parts of those sentence D:
L291[14:29:01] <gamax92> <TemiaBot> I am a monstergirl! but I'm too at odds with myself to think of it, are there even ways to combat them
L292[14:29:18] <Temia> '-'
L293[14:29:20] <Temia> No.
L294[14:29:25] <Temia> You fight a monstergirl, you get taken home.
L295[14:29:33] <Temia> +_+
L296[14:29:44] * Temia grabs Vifino and drags off.
L297[14:30:01] * Temia takes Lizzy with
L298[14:30:07] <vifino> '.'
L299[14:30:17] * Lizzy wonders where she is going
L300[14:31:56] * Temia flops into her pile of plushes with. snuggles both. <3
L301[14:33:24] * Lizzy snuggles Temia
L302[14:34:21] * vifino snuggles Lizzy and Temia and smiles happily
L303[14:38:07] <Wobbo> Did I actually tell people here that I have my OCJam project public on github?
L304[14:42:14] <gamax92> taken home to live where there is food and water and shelter?
L305[14:42:24] <gamax92> :D?
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L307[14:48:29] <Wobbo> Home might also mean Heaven in this case D:
L308[14:48:44] <gamax92> I don't want to be killed
L309[14:50:01] <Wobbo|iPhone> Nobody wants to get killed
L310[14:50:11] <Lizzy> do you know that for a fact?
L311[14:50:19] <sugoi> lestat did
L312[14:50:59] <Wobbo|iPhone> Alright, most people don't want to be killed
L313[14:52:30] <gamax92> #lua 1032613/15045560
L314[14:52:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.068632407168626
L315[14:53:03] <Wobbo|iPhone> Would suicidal people want to get killed?
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L317[14:55:31] <PedroBarbosa> Hi
L318[14:56:02] <Wobbo|iPhone> Hi
L319[14:57:26] <gamax92> ocbot tries to write code: <#OCBot> #lua #(function(...) offbyone(str)local key="qwertyuiopqasdfghjklazxcvbnmz" key=key..key:upper()local newstr={} for char and int/SAIdentifierPush((c,6,3),c) and SAIdentifierPush((y,6,7),y))"
L320[14:58:22] <Wobbo|iPhone> Ocbot can't write code
L321[14:58:41] <gamax92> yeah i have to do a bit of magic first
L322[15:01:22] <sugoi> gamax92: i would really enjoy a terminal backend, btw
L323[15:01:26] <Wobbo|iPhone> magic(X)
L324[15:01:35] <gamax92> sugoi: I'll see how much trouble it is
L325[15:01:42] <sugoi> i dont have very much ncurses experience, but if you have a task for me to help out, feel free to ask
L326[15:03:33] <gamax92> XD
L327[15:03:39] <gamax92> ocbot tries to write code: http://hastebin.com/redibapewo.txt
L328[15:04:01] <gamax92> this is also one of the flaws with that algorithm
L329[15:05:55] <PedroBarbosa> can robots inta mine?
L330[15:06:07] <sugoi> inta mine?
L331[15:06:10] <gamax92> wat
L332[15:06:14] <Wobbo|iPhone> No Markov generator will ever write good code
L333[15:06:31] <gamax92> <#OCBot> Mimiru: I don't want you to do :) Exist in Lua That's ok? for the 3D printer now so I am become death, the destroyer of worlds D:
L334[15:06:59] <gamax92> #ocbot is every single spoken thing ever btw
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L336[15:08:24] <Wobbo|iPhone> gamax92: does it have a channel?
L337[15:11:59] <gamax92> a what?
L338[15:12:22] <sugoi> gamax92: on mac i can't start boot bc could not load library SDL2
L339[15:12:31] <sugoi> do i need to brew sdl or some such?
L340[15:12:43] <gamax92> i don't know
L341[15:12:47] <sugoi> forgive, very much not a mac user
L342[15:12:56] <gamax92> neither am I
L343[15:12:58] <gamax92> like at all
L344[15:13:11] <sugoi> ok i'll search for an sdl library
L345[15:13:11] <gamax92> I don't use mac, even have a mac, and thus cannot test for mac
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L347[15:13:46] <sugoi> yeah, there is a brew pkg for sdl2
L348[15:13:47] <sugoi> trying that
L349[15:14:07] <sugoi> hmm, might need to set the lib path
L350[15:14:30] <Wobbo|iPhone> gamax92: a channel where I can talk to ocbot
L351[15:14:51] <sugoi> Wobbo|iPhone: you're talking to ocbot already it seems :)
L352[15:15:03] <gamax92> beep
L353[15:15:28] <gamax92> heeeeee I found it
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L356[15:17:36] <Wobbo|iPhone> sugoi: people here don't like botspam
L357[15:18:34] <Daiyousei> the more data you feed a markov chain
L358[15:18:36] <Daiyousei> the dumber it gets
L359[15:19:45] <Wobbo|iPhone> Daiyousei: depends on the data
L360[15:19:45] <Wobbo|iPhone> Garbage in, garbage out
L361[15:19:53] <gamax92> GIGO
L362[15:20:01] <gamax92> GINO
L363[15:20:33] <Daiyousei> Wobbo|iPhone: any new data can do it
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L366[15:21:58] <Wobbo|iPhone> You know you are claiming that you shouldn't feed any data into a Markov chain right now?
L367[15:22:11] <Daiyousei> i never said i claimed it
L368[15:22:17] <Daiyousei> i just said it becomes dumber and dumber
L369[15:22:23] <Daiyousei> and i like that
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L376[15:29:48] <gamax92> ~calc 5452/865
L377[15:29:49] <izak92> 6.30289017341040462427745664739884393063583815...
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L379[15:29:55] <gamax92> :3
L380[15:29:57] <gamax92> wat
L381[15:30:17] <gamax92> well anyway i had a math bot
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L384[15:35:28] <CyberTurd> hey lizzy
L385[15:35:31] <Lizzy> hi
L386[15:35:52] <CyberTurd> does my server run of spigot
L387[15:36:01] <Lizzy> yes
L388[15:36:04] <CyberTurd> http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/worldedit/files/61-world-edit-6-1-up-to-mc-1-8-7/
L389[15:36:29] <Lizzy> want me to add that?
L390[15:36:37] <CyberTurd> yes please
L391[15:38:19] <Lizzy> It's in, restart whenever to activate it (don't do /reload, that will just break stuff)
L392[15:40:28] <Lizzy> CyberTurd, ^
L393[15:40:50] <Lizzy> .-. my internet's fucked up again
L394[15:40:59] <Lizzy> or not
L395[15:41:02] <Lizzy> hmm
L396[15:41:05] <CyberTurd> ok
L397[15:41:09] <CyberTurd> thanks
L398[15:41:20] <Lizzy> %isup irssi.org
L399[15:41:21] <MichiBot> Lizzy: http://irssi.org Is Down.
L400[15:41:24] <Lizzy> damn
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L402[15:42:13] <Lizzy> \o/ for the wayback machine
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L413[16:02:16] <Kodos> o/
L414[16:03:54] <Lizzy> o\
L415[16:04:54] <gamax92> \o
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L417[16:10:09] <vifino> o/
L418[16:10:37] <Kodos> Have I missed anything important today while I was off getting a sunburn-colored tan
L419[16:13:06] * Lizzy shrugs
L420[16:15:06] <Kodos> I wonder if Weechat has autoreplace
L421[16:16:24] * Kodos shrugs
L422[16:16:28] <Kodos> Going to Dairy Queen
L423[16:16:31] <Kodos> Back soon <3
L424[16:18:26] <gamax92> Kodos: a thing about weechat, it has lots of existing plugins to extend and do lots of things
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L427[16:24:22] <Sangar> i'm off o/
L428[16:24:30] <Wobbo> bye!
L429[16:24:31] <Lizzy> you were on?
L430[16:25:30] * vifino carries Lizzy to bed and makes her sleep
L431[16:25:42] * Lizzy giggles
L432[16:25:56] <Wobbo> I'm also going. Bye!
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L434[16:29:31] <sugoi> gamax92: i'm going to have to stop working on the mac test. it's a lot of new area for me. i did, however, finally get lua to load sdl
L435[16:29:39] <sugoi> but i never could get sdl to load via ffi
L436[16:29:56] <sugoi> instead, i was able to build lua-sdls (luarocks install)
L437[16:30:04] <sugoi> but ffi.load still fails
L438[16:30:11] <sugoi> even when i try various cpath patching
L439[16:30:30] <gamax92> I don't entirely know how to tell ffi to look in a certain path
L440[16:30:36] <sugoi> anywho, i know you were just curious how the window looked on mac
L441[16:30:54] <sugoi> oh, ffi doesn't use cpath? i guess i was completely guessing on that
L442[16:31:05] <sugoi> i could just copy the lib next to the init
L443[16:31:07] <sugoi> see if that works
L444[16:31:12] <sugoi> or in the pwd (boot)
L445[16:31:14] * sugoi tries that
L446[16:32:24] <sugoi> nope
L447[16:32:30] <sugoi> copied the lib all over the place
L448[16:32:32] <sugoi> well, one more idea
L449[16:34:24] <sugoi> ok, copying all over the place and various lib names, didn't work
L450[16:34:26] <sugoi> but
L451[16:34:44] <sugoi> sdl=ffi.load('libSDL2.dylib') gives me "userdata"
L452[16:35:16] <sugoi> haha it works
L453[16:35:19] <gamax92> oh huh
L454[16:35:24] <sugoi> DUDE
L455[16:35:26] <sugoi> it works on mac
L456[16:35:30] <sugoi> that was REALLY hard
L457[16:35:34] <sugoi> well, not "hard"
L458[16:35:36] <sugoi> but a pain in the butt
L459[16:35:43] <sugoi> sooo many thingsi tried
L460[16:35:51] <sugoi> so many pkgs and configurations and ..
L461[16:35:53] <sugoi> bleh!
L462[16:35:54] <gamax92> i guess ffi doesn't know that the library extension on mac is .dylib
L463[16:35:55] <sugoi> ok
L464[16:36:10] <gamax92> it seems to auto figure out on linux that it can do libblah.so
L465[16:36:11] <sugoi> maybe there is a way to tell ffi to be mac smart
L466[16:36:12] <sugoi> i dont know
L467[16:36:19] <sugoi> tell you what tho
L468[16:36:25] <sugoi> i'll reduce the noise of this crap hack i got working
L469[16:36:35] <sugoi> and submit a mac os check to get sdl to load
L470[16:36:46] <gamax92> don't submit yet though
L471[16:36:46] <sugoi> also...might have a few setup step suggestions for the readme
L472[16:36:51] <sugoi> ok?
L473[16:36:56] <sugoi> btw
L474[16:36:59] <sugoi> the window is NOT fullscreen
L475[16:37:04] <gamax92> yay
L476[16:37:09] <sugoi> nor does mouse grab
L477[16:37:11] <sugoi> so JUST me :)
L478[16:40:48] <gamax92> sugoi: so, I'll probably patch luaffi then, since it basically does this:
L479[16:40:54] <gamax92> ifdef _WIN32 then .dll else .so
L480[16:41:07] <gamax92> and theres probably a way to do a mac check
L481[16:42:02] <vifino> Gawd, windows 10, Chrome. Please give me Chrome OS mode back.
L482[16:42:04] <vifino> I need it.
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L484[16:42:42] <PedroBarbosa> Is blob here?
L485[16:43:45] <gamax92> who
L486[16:43:48] <PedroBarbosa> Sangar
L487[16:43:48] <PedroBarbosa> *
L488[16:45:25] <PedroBarbosa> I need help
L489[16:45:33] <PedroBarbosa> i'm trying to get the miner program from this link
L490[16:45:34] <PedroBarbosa> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Sangar-Programs/blob/master/miner.lua
L491[16:45:37] <PedroBarbosa> How can i do that?
L492[16:45:39] <PedroBarbosa> OPPM?
L493[16:45:42] <PedroBarbosa> Copy & paste?
L494[16:49:37] <PedroBarbosa> Anyone?
L495[16:50:59] <Izaya> oppm
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L497[16:53:08] <PedroBarbosa> oppm install miner? that command?
L498[16:53:17] <sugoi> gamax92: ffi.load does prefix lib though, fyi
L499[16:53:27] <sugoi> so the extension is all that you would need to patch
L500[16:53:51] * sugoi gives PedroBarbosa a chill-cookie
L501[16:54:07] <sugoi> PedroBarbosa: yes, oppm install miner
L502[16:54:14] <gamax92> sugoi: not how luaffi works
L503[16:54:21] <PedroBarbosa> If i try oppm install miner it says Package does not exist
L504[16:54:45] <Izaya> oppm search miner
L505[16:54:45] <Izaya> ?
L506[16:54:55] <gamax92> it has a list of formats, which for windows is %s.dll, and others is %s.so and lib%s.so
L507[16:54:57] <Izaya> dunno if you can do that
L508[16:54:59] <gamax92> so, i have to do both
L509[16:55:22] <sugoi> oh i see
L510[16:55:47] <PedroBarbosa> You can't izaya
L511[16:56:18] <Izaya> I know there's *some* search command
L512[16:56:25] <sugoi> Izaya: miner doesn't seem to be listed in sanger's programs
L513[16:56:31] <sugoi> PedroBarbosa: you could just use wget
L514[16:56:40] <sugoi> wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenPrograms/Sangar-Programs/master/miner.lua
L515[16:56:43] <gamax92> sugoi: so i just pushed a thing to luaffi, can you build it and see if it works
L516[16:57:57] <sugoi> gamax92: sure. my system isn't even close to a vanilla state for this, so it could be slightly false positive, but at least a reasonable sanity check
L517[16:58:22] <gamax92> oh i didn't push i just made the commit ...
L518[16:58:31] <gamax92> okay there :P
L519[17:02:20] <sugoi> git pull keeps telling me Already up-to-date
L520[17:02:41] <gamax92> sugoi: you are using my repo, right? https://github.com/gamax92/luaffi
L521[17:02:43] <sugoi> git config --get remote.origin.url
L522[17:02:45] <sugoi> https://github.com/gamax92/OCEmu
L523[17:02:51] <sugoi> (same as git remote show origin)
L524[17:03:05] <gamax92> luaffi
L525[17:03:11] <sugoi> not saying those commands are the same thing..saying the output it the same :)
L526[17:03:18] <sugoi> oh, sec
L527[17:03:35] <PedroBarbosa> Sangar: Are you on?
L528[17:03:42] <gamax92> yeah i basically just added a check for OS_OSX (ffi defines this) and set the paths to have .dylib
L529[17:03:43] <sugoi> ah
L530[17:03:58] <sugoi> didn't realize your setup steps was using your own luaffi git
L531[17:04:25] <gamax92> it's mainly because of various fixes people have done to it, and also because I have a makefile for mingw
L532[17:06:46] <sugoi> yep, worked just fine
L533[17:06:56] <sugoi> ok, now to see how much i didn't have to do
L534[17:07:35] <gamax92> sorry for making you scatter libraries everywhere on your system :P
L535[17:08:10] <sugoi> ha, it's all good. it's just a work mac
L536[17:08:52] <Kodos> What did I miss
L537[17:09:33] <sugoi> Kodos: cold there today?
L538[17:09:43] <gamax92> We defused a bomb, that almost would have vaporized the entire pacific ocean
L539[17:09:58] <gamax92> got it just in time
L540[17:11:08] <sugoi> gamax92: so i think i've been able to remove everything, and my edits in have been reverted
L541[17:11:10] <sugoi> and it works
L542[17:11:45] <sugoi> a step a mac user would need to do would be to `brew install sdl2`
L543[17:12:17] <Kodos> A bit, it isn't too bad
L544[17:12:21] <sugoi> well, brew install luarocks first
L545[17:12:42] <sugoi> PedroBarbosa: what question do you have?
L546[17:12:47] <sugoi> PedroBarbosa: did my wget command work for you?
L547[17:13:31] <gamax92> sugoi: so if you're doing a readme edit for a mac section, you can place it after the code box and before the crap about Windows
L548[17:14:06] <sugoi> sure
L549[17:15:42] <gamax92> but like with anything necessary like luafilesystem, luautf8, luaffi, and sdl2, and recommended stuff like luasocket and luasec
L550[17:16:02] <gamax92> i don't know how you do lua libs and stuffs on mac
L551[17:19:53] <Skye|ZZZ> .ping Vic__
L552[17:19:53] <^v> Skye|ZZZ, No such user
L553[17:20:04] <Skye|ZZZ> #p Vic__
L554[17:20:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.4466198819999999 Seconds passed.
L555[17:20:10] <Skye|ZZZ> Ha
L556[17:20:20] <Kodos> #p
L557[17:20:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.45529686100000005 Seconds passed.
L558[17:21:31] <Kodos> Who wants to check something on Priceline for me
L559[17:24:08] <gamax92> Get as close as possible without going over
L560[17:24:18] <Kodos> uwot
L561[17:26:59] <sugoi> gamax92: pr submitted. edit my revision as you prefer. i'll be afk for a while
L562[17:27:17] <Izaya> #p
L563[17:27:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Timeout.
L564[17:27:29] <Izaya> #p
L565[17:27:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Timeout.
L566[17:27:41] <Izaya> 3G.
L567[17:27:43] <sugoi> oh...does the readme mention you need to run make in src/ the first time you run?
L568[17:27:46] <sugoi> i didn't add that
L569[17:27:50] <sugoi> anywho, i'm out for now
L570[17:27:52] <sugoi> o/
L571[17:27:54] <Kodos> o/
L572[17:28:02] <gamax92> it's listed in the linux one but not explicitly
L573[17:30:14] <Izaya> #p
L574[17:30:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Timeout.
L575[17:30:35] <Izaya> wait does andchat ping?
L576[17:30:42] <Kodos> Izaya: dunno
L577[17:30:42] <Izaya> ._.
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L579[17:39:04] <gamax92> Izaya: iirc no
L580[17:39:35] <Izaya> that would explain tin
L581[17:39:40] <Izaya> timeouts
L582[17:42:23] <gamax92> uhh, if you mean deadbeef timeouts then yes
L583[17:52:32] <Magik6k> holyshit
L584[17:52:33] <Magik6k> http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/711-mineos-beautiful-gui-to-standard-shell/
L585[17:52:38] <Magik6k> that's epic
L586[17:54:55] <gamax92> isn't that the poorly written russian shell thingy
L587[17:55:23] <CompanionCube> Unicode and colours is very very versatile
L588[17:56:04] <gamax92> "There are several protection methods - be sure, nobody can access your personal data."
L589[17:56:05] <gamax92> ;)
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L591[17:58:31] <Magik6k> gamax92, I plan on making LUKS like thinger in plan9k ;p
L592[17:58:41] <Inari> whoever made that sure has a lot of free time xD
L593[17:58:52] <Magik6k> (should fit in few lines tho)
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L603[19:28:20] <S3> OK
L604[19:28:30] <S3> TIME FO HOMEWURKS
L605[19:30:59] <S3> Not too bad. Looks like I'll be doing very minimal trigonometry in this assignment
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L610[19:50:21] <S3> hey Starhero
L611[19:50:25] <S3> Starhero-MC, &
L612[19:51:19] <S3> so let's see, physics 2 for engineers. charged particles galore!
L613[19:51:23] <Starhero-MC> Hey, busy testing new mods
L614[19:51:48] <S3> calculus based physics is so much fun
L615[19:52:31] <S3> honestly it often ends up being less math than non calculus based physics from what I remember.. since this is the second semester of me doing the calculus based physics stuff
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L617[20:16:46] <sugoi> gamax92: what if cprint was replaced with something like...log = {} with log.debug and log.info, log.err
L618[20:17:19] <sugoi> that wrote to different pipe levels
L619[20:17:28] <sugoi> like, info to stdout, err to stderr (be default)
L620[20:17:52] <sugoi> then you could redirect and get a "quieter" run for testing
L621[20:39:40] <gamax92> sugoi: all of cprint is debugging though
L622[20:41:34] <gamax92> also, wow that took a long time for my internet to recover
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L632[21:05:38] <gamax92> ~w test
L633[21:05:38] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:text
L634[21:05:39] <gamax92> k
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L636[21:06:01] <gamax92> ocdoc occasionally fails to recover from issues like ... what ever that was
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L664[21:25:27] <MichiBot> TotallyNotKatie: Enabled SED for this channel
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L673[21:36:51] <sugoi> gamax92: yeah, and my initial change would be the replace all cprints with log.debug
L674[21:37:03] <sugoi> or some such
L675[21:37:20] <sugoi> and then, while i'm trying to fix something, i'll use log.err or something different
L676[21:37:21] <gamax92> okay but if you were to have a log system, what even would you have in info and error and etc etc?
L677[21:37:48] <sugoi> err for when something is breaking but recoverable, as opposed to error to just it down
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L679[21:38:17] <sugoi> i dont know what info would be for at the moment, not a specific example
L680[21:38:23] <sugoi> 3 may be more than is needed
L681[21:38:37] <gamax92> see you can't create a specific example
L682[21:38:52] <gamax92> nor can I think of anything where there is "breaking but recoverable"
L683[21:40:02] <sugoi> well, yeah i agree, i dont see a need for 3, but 2 would be nice
L684[21:40:14] <sugoi> and i take that back with breaking but recoverable, it can just be breaking
L685[21:40:22] <sugoi> but the problem is that everything is stdout right now
L686[21:40:31] <sugoi> that's all i'm trying to say
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L688[21:40:59] <sugoi> so maybe not make changes to cprint at all
L689[21:41:09] <sugoi> but, maybe i just want something like error, but without the exception
L690[21:41:22] <sugoi> like, cerror
L691[21:41:45] <sugoi> or, can i just use io.stderr ?
L692[21:42:16] <sugoi> yeah, i think i can
L693[21:43:23] <sugoi> oh ha, you have a setitings.emulatorDebug check when setting cprint
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L697[21:55:39] <sugoi> this utterly doesn't work
L698[21:55:46] <sugoi> this has got to be windows
L699[21:57:07] <sugoi> i can't io.stdout and io.stderr write and pipe them separately
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L719[23:59:07] <sugoi> gamax92: so i found a bug with my modem
L720[23:59:30] <sugoi> you can call modem.send(address, port, "a", nil, "b")
L721[23:59:56] <sugoi> anywho, i'll have a fix soon
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