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L8[00:35:14] <Epix> Hello, I'm trying to
automate RotaryCraft Extractor with OC robot. But I cannot get
middle items from extractor. inventory_controller.getSlotStackSize
return correct number, but suckFromSlot return false. Any
idea?
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L15[01:18:47] <Izaya> just a daily reminder
that Apple headphones are shit
L16[01:21:06] <Izaya> mine have now
developed a persistent buzz
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L34[04:42:23] <Sangar> Epix, open an issue,
i have an idea what it might be, will take a look in the
evening
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L36[04:52:09] <ccsonic> good morning
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L40[05:32:42] <sugoi> ccsonic: howdy
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L43[05:33:54] <Izaya> S3, how big is your
forth implimentation?
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L50[05:46:01] <Sangar> oh, just to make
sure, that thing isn't sided, or if it is the robot is on the right
side?
L51[05:49:45] <Epix> Sangar, I detected
item counts to ensure I'm using correct side.
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L53[05:51:43] <Sangar> i'm... not actually
sure that cares for sidedness
L54[06:06:17] <Epix> Is this
"side" means one of bottom/right/left/front?
L55[06:06:58] <Epix> Sorry for my poor
English. I'm not a native speaker.
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L61[07:14:54] <Sangar> yeah. basically the
side you'd use to pull stuff out using pipes
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L63[07:27:52] <Epix> Yes, BuildCraft Pipes
can suck items from that side. (But only items in last slot.)
L64[07:29:13] <Sangar> well, then is there
a side they can suck items from the slot you want? because if
not... that basically means the machine doesn't want that slot to
be automated and oc respects that
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L66[07:31:46] <dangranos> oh you
fcking..
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L68[07:31:55] <dangranos> Rostelekom
blocked archive.org
L69[07:32:01] <dangranos> for some islamic
thingy
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L72[07:40:02] <Izaya> . . .
L73[07:40:12] <Izaya> wow
L74[07:40:27] <Izaya> How exactly do they
block archive.org anyway?
L75[07:40:42] <dangranos> fully
L76[07:40:45] <dangranos> because
https
L77[07:40:53] <dangranos> (i guess the
domain itself)
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L79[07:42:28] <Izaya> but
L80[07:42:37] <Izaya> how do they prevent
you from accessing it?
L82[07:47:38] <Izaya> interesting
L83[07:47:44] <Izaya> so china does live
packet inspection
L84[07:47:48] <Izaya> what does russia
do?
L85[07:47:51] <Izaya> mess with DNS?
L86[07:47:56] <Izaya> drop packets to a
given IP?
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L89[07:50:42] <Lizzy> %lookup
archive.org
L90[07:50:42] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info
for archive.org 207.241.224.2
L91[07:51:12] <Lizzy> dangranos: try going
to ^ directly and see if you can access it, i may or may not have
an idea to help you get onot it
L92[07:51:57] <sugoi> gamax92: new
submission for the pr
L93[07:51:59] *
sugoi is afk
L94[07:53:02] <gamax92> I ...
L95[07:53:08] <gamax92> please don't put
type("") ...
L96[07:53:13] <gamax92> please just put
"string"
L97[07:53:23] *
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L98[07:53:40] <dangranos>
tostring(type(tostring("")))
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L100[07:54:12] <gamax92> thats also the
equivalent of "string"
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L102[08:14:27] <vifino> S3: You
there?
L103[08:14:39] <vifino> Could you link me
to the lua minifier?
L105[08:20:30] <vifino> gamax92: i need a
standalone lua script i can use to minifiy the lua scripts from a
makefile before embedding them into objects and linking them
in
L106[08:25:33] *
vifino pokes gamax92
L107[08:26:16] <gamax92> sorry was
breakfast
L108[08:26:52] <gamax92> i know crunch
isn't standalone but why can't you use that?
L109[08:27:37] <vifino> it's for oc.
L110[08:27:39] <vifino> this is not
oc.
L111[08:27:46] <gamax92> it runs in
standard lua
L112[08:27:57] <vifino> does it need
libraries?
L113[08:28:14] <vifino> i mean, extra
libraries
L114[08:28:25] <vifino> And what's the
license?
L115[08:29:39] <gamax92> it does have it's
own backend stuff that it includes, doesn't need you to manually
install anything else, and i dunno
L116[08:31:07] <gamax92> vifino: if you're
concerned about all that stuffs, theres also LuaSrcDiet which I
know is MIT
L117[08:32:35] <gamax92> it does all the
same stuff as crunch except move globals into locals so they can be
further shortened (which can break stuff), and compounding
locals
L118[08:38:54] <vifino> ah
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L124[09:45:53] <XDjackieXD> XD
L125[09:47:41] <vifino> dangranos:
Yes.
L126[09:47:42] <vifino> Yes.
L127[09:48:00] <dangranos> also
>apt-get
L128[09:48:15] <dangranos> lets hope it's
not *ubuntu
L129[09:49:41] <vifino> ¬_¬
L130[09:50:14] <vifino> dangranos: What
would you want instead then? Deboutdatedian?
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L136[10:16:50] <gamax92> delibear
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L138[10:34:55] <gamax92> .lua 4
L139[10:34:56] <^v> gamax92, 4
L140[10:35:01] <gamax92> ehh
L141[10:35:15] <gamax92> v^ whats the 5
bot?
L142[10:35:50] <vifino> ^lua 4
L143[10:35:50] <^v5> vifino, 4
L144[10:36:00] <vifino> gamax92: ^
L145[10:36:07] <gamax92> ahh
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L150[11:00:02] <Sangar> Epix, well,
technically the robot is still a machine ;) and i have to stick to
the contracts of interfaces such as sided inventories or lots of
things could break quite horribly. i think there's an issue to add
support for "sneaky" interactions (i.e. interact with a
side the robot isn't actually in front of), that could help in your
case *if* that slot can be interacted with automatically from any
side at all.
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L153[11:09:28] <CyberTurd> lizzy
L154[11:09:36] <CyberTurd> oh
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L171[12:49:07] <Reika> Epix: That post is
a year old
L172[12:49:13] <Reika> I blacklisted the
router on the Extractor a long time ago
L174[12:50:09] <Vexatos> Extractor -
confusing people since 2013
L175[12:51:54] <vifino> Vexatoast -
confusing people since ever
L176[12:52:40] <Vexatos> "I'm here
because I'm everywhere!" ~ Vexatos 2013
L177[12:52:46] <Vexatos> (I actually said
that, apparently)
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L180[12:59:12] <vifino>
s/everywhere/batman/
L181[12:59:12] <Kibibyte> <Vexatos>
"I'm here because I'm batman!" ~ Vexatos 2013
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L183[13:05:34] <Epix> Reika, well i
thought each extractor run one stage will be more efficient, but it
seems you dont intend to allow players to do that... Then i'll just
use oc robot for switching stages.
L184[13:05:56] <Reika> RC has native means
to do this
L185[13:06:04] <Reika> if you planned on
autoscrewdriver, that does not work
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L189[13:20:14] <Kodos> Anyone use
BetterStorage?
L190[13:21:04] <Vexatos> I do
L191[13:21:21] <Kodos> Can you check the
config for a way to disable blocks in the mod
L192[13:21:49] <Kodos> Specifically, I'd
like to disable everything but crates
L193[13:22:33] <Vexatos> won't help you
with that :3
L194[13:22:45] <Kodos> ...
L195[13:22:53] <Vexatos> Why would I want
to help you with disabling so much from such an awesome mod
L196[13:22:59] <Kodos> Because
overlap
L197[13:23:07] <Vexatos> remove overlap
from the other mods
L198[13:23:11] <Vexatos> BS is superior
:3
L199[13:23:14] <Kodos> But, if you want to
be an asshole, go for it
L200[13:23:20] <Kodos> I just asked for
some simple help
L201[13:23:45] <Vexatos> :3
L202[13:23:48] <Kodos> Really, I should
have expected as much from you.
L203[13:23:54] <gamax92> Vexatos
L204[13:24:10] <gamax92> why is it that
one malformed programs.cfg destroys the entirety of oppm?
L205[13:24:11] <Vexatos> Seriously, there
is no way to disable stuff in BS as far as I know
L206[13:24:22] <Vexatos> gamax92, because
it fails to parse it?
L207[13:24:28] <gamax92> so?
L208[13:24:31] <gamax92> it should skip it
and move on
L209[13:24:39] <Kodos> gamax92, because
Vexatos fails at life
L210[13:24:41] <Vexatos> It's an easy way
of telling the pakage maker that they did something wrong
L211[13:24:51] <Vexatos> .openprg
L212[13:24:59] <Vexatos> So far, there are
only sane people on OPPM
L213[13:25:00] <gamax92> Vexatos: yes, you
do that, but then oppm exists and fails to do it's job
L215[13:25:10] <gamax92> exits*
L216[13:26:07] <Vexatos> how would the
devs tell they did something wrong otherwise
L217[13:26:31] <gamax92> well see, oppm
would JUST say it failed to parse the package, and ONLY those
packages would be unavailable
L218[13:27:02] <Vexatos> well, this way
people can complain
L219[13:27:09] <Vexatos> I can find out
who'd doing stuff wrong
L220[13:27:10] <sugoi> gamax92: what
really? my feigned ego aside - you prefer "string" over
type("")?
L221[13:27:16] <Vexatos> quite
easily
L222[13:27:17] <sugoi> that is honestly
strange to me
L223[13:27:19] <gamax92> sugoi: yes very
much so
L224[13:27:37] <gamax92> while for strings
and numbers lua will reuse an instance because it's smart
L225[13:27:47] <gamax92> tables will not
do that, and you allocate a table for no reason
L226[13:27:48] <Vexatos> wait
L227[13:27:52] <Vexatos> who'd ever do
type("")
L228[13:27:55] <sugoi> i would
L229[13:27:56] <vifino> ^
L230[13:27:56] <gamax92> sugoi
L231[13:28:01] <vifino> sugoiple
L232[13:28:01] <Vexatos> .-.
L233[13:28:02] <vifino> ase.
L234[13:28:10] <vifino> sugoi,
please*
L235[13:28:13] <vifino> jesuuu
L236[13:28:17] <vifino> ..
L237[13:28:22] <vifino> fuck his mosh
session
L238[13:28:23] <sugoi> gamax92: first of
all, it's your repo and i'm glad to change it
L239[13:28:39] <Vexatos> gamax92, now tell
me, which package is broken
L240[13:28:41] <sugoi> but besides that, i
always prefer system lookups in stead of "hard coded magic
values"
L241[13:28:50] <gamax92> it's not a magic
value >_>
L242[13:28:57] <Vexatos> sugoi,
technically, 1 and 0 are as hardcoded as "strign"
L243[13:28:59] <sugoi> it's less magic
than a user made one
L244[13:29:00] <Vexatos>
"string" *
L245[13:29:12] <sugoi> it's a pattern i
prefer
L246[13:29:13] <Vexatos>
type("") will always return "string"
L247[13:29:16] <Vexatos> yes, that's
hardcoded
L248[13:29:30] <sugoi> but not in my code,
or at least, not in many places
L249[13:29:40] <gamax92> in C, doing
sizeof(blah) instead of putting a 1 or a 2 or whatever makes
sense
L250[13:29:43] <sugoi> i'd even prefer a
global string_type_name over "string"
L251[13:30:00] <gamax92> because depending
on what compiler and arch and yadda yadda you can get different
values
L252[13:30:07] <gamax92> but
type("") will never
L253[13:30:08] <gamax92> never
L254[13:30:08] <gamax92> never
L255[13:30:09] <sugoi> this isn't about
different archs/compilers though that is absolutely related
L256[13:30:13] <gamax92> be anything other
than "string"
L257[13:30:19] <sugoi> yes, that is half
the piont
L258[13:30:21] <gamax92> so just put
"string"
L259[13:30:21] <sugoi> point*
L260[13:30:23] <gamax92> k? :)
L261[13:30:35] <sugoi> but it is a pattern
of not littering your code with values
L262[13:30:36] <gamax92> besides it's for
consistency sake if anything else
L263[13:30:38] <sugoi> but lookups
L264[13:30:47] <sugoi> i'm quite
consistent with it :)
L265[13:31:06] <sugoi> also, i won't
misspell type("")
L266[13:31:12] <vifino> It's slower.
L267[13:31:14] <sugoi> but can easily
misspell "strign"
L268[13:31:28] <vifino> type("")
is slower than "string" and it won't ever change.
L269[13:31:28] <gamax92> no i mean the
rest of OCEmu or all of the loot and lua folders from
OpenComputers
L270[13:31:31] <sugoi> speed here isnt my
concern, besides, i'd prefera global "const"
string_type_name over "string"
L271[13:31:34] <gamax92> as in
constancy
L272[13:31:45] <gamax92>
consistency*
L273[13:31:49] <sugoi> gamax92: yeah, was
being a bit sarcastic with that related comment, i knew what you
meant
L274[13:31:52] <Temia> moooo.
L275[13:31:54] <gamax92> Temia!
L276[13:31:58] *
Temia flops on gamax.
L277[13:32:02] *
Temia mooo. .o.
L278[13:32:07] <vifino> #lua
#('type("")')
L279[13:32:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 8
L280[13:32:12] *
Dashkal stays carefully out of suplex range
L281[13:32:13] <vifino> #lua
#('"string"')
L282[13:32:13] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 8
L283[13:32:24] <vifino> You won't even
have to type more.
L284[13:32:37] <sugoi> it's not about
typing reduction
L285[13:32:53] <gamax92> sugoi: either way
I'll just merge the pr and clean it up later (am at skool)
L286[13:33:12] <sugoi> i'm glad to change
it
L287[13:33:13] *
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L288[13:33:23] *
gamax92 gives Temia pets
L289[13:33:34] *
Temia nuzzles into and tailswishes. mu <33
L290[13:33:46] <vifino> sed
s/type\(""\)/"string"/ sugoipr.diff
L291[13:33:54] <sugoi> :)
L292[13:33:55] <vifino> cleaned up.
L293[13:34:03] <gamax92> sugoi: it's okay,
there's also lots of other things to clean up ;)
L294[13:34:09] <sugoi> haha
L295[13:34:28] <gamax92> for example,
local a = something(), local b = something(a), return b
L296[13:34:40] <gamax92> instead of return
anotherthing(something())
L297[13:34:45] <Vexatos> #lua #('type
""')
L298[13:34:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 7
L299[13:34:56] <Vexatos> superfast
>_>
L300[13:35:00] <Vexatos> #lua #('type
""'
L301[13:35:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '#'
L302[13:35:01] <gamax92> no need to waste
locals
L303[13:35:04] <sugoi> simplifies
debugging
L304[13:35:04] <Vexatos> #lua type
""
L305[13:35:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
string
L306[13:35:09] <sugoi> premature
optimization?
L307[13:35:12] <Vexatos> WHO'D HAVE
THOUGHT
L308[13:35:19] <sugoi> or perhaps lua
doesn't optmize that
L309[13:35:20] <Vexatos> I wonder
L310[13:35:22] <Vexatos> #lua
type""
L311[13:35:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
string
L312[13:35:24] <Vexatos> hah
L313[13:35:27] <gamax92> which one?
L314[13:35:34] <sugoi> Vexatos: that's not
the whole reason
L315[13:35:35] <Vexatos> that's the
ugliest code
L316[13:35:41] <Vexatos> ever
L317[13:35:47] <sugoi> you guys perhaps
think i use type('') in case "string" ever changes
L318[13:35:48] <Vexatos> #lua
print"fish"
L319[13:35:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > fish |
nil
L320[13:35:50] <Vexatos> .-.
L321[13:36:01] <gamax92> no i don't
L322[13:36:04] <Vexatos> Me neither
L323[13:36:09] <Vexatos> I think it's just
stupid
L324[13:36:11] <gamax92> I think you use
type("") because you are from C and C++ land
L325[13:36:18] <gamax92> mr semi
colon
L327[13:36:40] <Vexatos> #lua
print[==========[Fish]==========];;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
L328[13:36:40] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Fish |
nil
L329[13:36:41] <Vexatos> Yea
L330[13:36:44] <vifino> I think sugoi uses
it because he likes to do stupid stuff and upset sane people.
L331[13:36:46] <Vexatos> Because Lua
L332[13:36:59] *
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L333[13:37:10] <vifino> :<
L334[13:37:12] <Vexatos> vifino .-.
L335[13:37:26] <vifino> Vexatoast
._.
L336[13:38:09] <Temia> mooooo. 'A'
L337[13:38:17] *
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L338[13:38:46] *
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L339[13:39:17] <gamax92> meep?
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L341[13:40:26] <vifino> meep
L342[13:40:26] *
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L343[13:41:15] *
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muuu
L344[13:42:45] <gamax92> :3
L345[13:43:01] <vifino> gamax92 x Temia
otp
L346[13:43:04] *
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L347[13:43:09] <Temia> '^'
L348[13:43:11] *
Temia eyebeams
L349[13:43:14] <Temia> I have a
boyfriend.
L350[13:43:19] <Lizzy> (>^_^<)
L351[13:43:20] *
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L352[13:43:24] <Temia> I'm just a very
cuddly moo.
L353[13:43:35] *
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L354[13:44:10] <vifino> I was just making
the obvious joke '^'
L355[13:44:20] *
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L356[13:44:33] *
vifino curls up on Lizzy
L357[13:44:40] *
Lizzy pets vifino
L359[13:45:13] *
Temia eartwitches and nuzzles against. muuuu =w=
L360[13:45:14] <gamax92> use bandwidth to
get bandwidth
L361[13:45:27] <Vexatos> gamax92, would be
fun if it threw a 509 error
L362[13:45:46] <gamax92> heh
L363[13:48:52] <gamax92> weeeee
L364[13:48:54] <gamax92> free pizza!
L365[14:00:28] *
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L366[14:22:33] <Temia> pizza?
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L368[14:25:49] *
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continues to lean on her <3
L369[14:26:43] *
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L383[16:16:54] <Lizzy> #lua 1024*50
L384[16:16:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
51200
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L387[16:17:12] <Kodos> #p
L388[16:17:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1.971944305 Seconds passed.
L389[16:17:23] <Lizzy> #p
L390[16:17:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
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L391[16:17:50] <Kodos> Started to get a
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L394[16:36:48] <Antheus> .p
L395[16:36:49] <^v> Ping reply from
Antheus 0.93s
L396[16:37:12] *
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L397[16:37:42] <Kodos> I have to pee badly
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L401[17:03:28] <Kodos> I wonder if I could
quietly sneak into cc's channel, since i'm on a different IP
L402[17:04:09] <Kodos> Meh
L403[17:04:09] <Kodos> afk
L404[17:05:46] <Lizzy> Kodos, did you get
banned from there?
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L407[17:10:58] <Dashkal> I seem to recall
Amanda noticing him at some point.
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L409[17:32:40] <Antheus> I got banned on
Jan 1st 2015
L410[17:32:44] <Antheus> from #cc
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L412[17:32:48] <Antheus> was worth
it
L413[17:33:07] <Dashkal> Meh. That channel
was often toxic. I just left it for that reason.
L414[17:34:40] <Antheus> WHAT GAME SHOULD
I BUY
L415[17:34:55] <Izaya> ARK
L416[17:34:56] <Antheus> <$20
L417[17:35:06] <Izaya> half of ARK
L418[17:35:29] <Inari> a good game
L419[17:35:30] <Inari> (so not ark)
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L422[17:42:28] <Izaya> Antheus: or rather,
AR
L423[17:42:42] <Antheus> Hmm
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L426[17:56:24] *
sugoi sends gamax92 a pr and a donut
L427[17:58:29] <gamax92> sugoi: uhh, why
are you checking for nil by using "not variable"
L428[17:59:13] <sugoi> false and nil are
the only "false" right? i just like the look of not v
better than ~= ni
L429[17:59:17] <sugoi> you prefer ~= nil
?
L430[17:59:27] <gamax92>
dsfkjsdklfjsdfkljsdfklsjd linux please ;-;
L431[17:59:31] <Inari> Izaya: a lot of AR
stuff costs more than $20
L432[17:59:34] <gamax92> I hate that
swapping = YOUR COMPUTER WILL HALT
L433[17:59:35] <sugoi> linux?
L434[18:00:09] <Inari> gamax92: HALT
L435[18:00:19] <gamax92> now wtf is using
all my memory
L436[18:00:42] <ds84182> gamax92:
HALT
L437[18:00:46] <Inari> gamax92: HALT
L438[18:00:50] <ds84182> WHO GOES
THERE
L439[18:00:58] <gamax92> I can just ignore
both of you
L440[18:00:58] <ds84182> It must of been
the wind
L442[18:01:06] <MichiBot> Inari:
DaggerFall Halt! | length
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L443[18:01:17] <ds84182> HALT and catch
SWAP
L444[18:01:24] <Inari> lol
L445[18:01:45] <gamax92> sugoi: in this
case, it works because of the checkArg which enforces a number or
nil
L446[18:02:17] <gamax92> but explicit
checking is better for implementation accuracy
L447[18:02:47] <gamax92> Hence why I've
also stopped doing var = var or something
L448[18:02:58] <gamax92> #lua false or
9
L449[18:02:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 9
L450[18:03:05] <sugoi> it would work
without
L451[18:03:13] <sugoi> i dont use false as
a 'true' case
L452[18:03:20] <ds84182> gamax92: why not
var == nil and something or var
L453[18:03:21] <sugoi> thus not fits
L454[18:03:34] <gamax92> ds84182: isn't
that logically the same as an if statement in lua bytecode
L455[18:03:41] <gamax92> i remember you
saying something like that
L456[18:03:57] <sugoi> thats the same as
the ternary, sure
L457[18:04:08] <sugoi> cond and a or b
=> cond ? a : b
L458[18:04:33] <ds84182> gamax92: yeah,
pretty much
L459[18:04:54] <ds84182> except I think it
takes 1 extra instruction because it's boolean logic
L460[18:05:01] <sugoi> but anyhow, nothing
is wrong with if not var vs if var == nil --- unless one is
concerned about false as a valid value of var
L461[18:05:21] <sugoi> however, i'm glad
to change it if you would like
L462[18:05:27] <gamax92> it's fine
here
L463[18:05:27] <ds84182> #lua
#string.dump(function() if a == nil then a = 5 end end, true)
L464[18:05:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
109
L465[18:05:40] <gamax92> but just
remember, if a boolean is an accepted value, you can't do
that
L466[18:05:45] <ds84182> #lua
#string.dump(function() a = a == nil and a or 5 end, true)
L467[18:05:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
125
L468[18:05:52] <ds84182> #lua
#string.dump(function() a = a == nil and a or 5 end, false)
L469[18:05:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
169
L470[18:05:59] <ds84182> yeah, 109 vs
125
L471[18:06:04] <sugoi> i'm well aware.
remember, i'm a c++ guy and it is our tradition to if pointers for
null check all the time
L472[18:06:10] <ds84182> debugging
information was removed, so source size doesn't matter
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L474[18:06:59] <gamax92> ... is that what
the second parameter does? :P
L475[18:07:08] <ds84182> in 5.3, yes
L476[18:07:12] <gamax92> ahh okay
L477[18:08:27] <gamax92> sugoi: oh but one
thing, please clean up the type("") and type(0) and
type({}) stuff
L478[18:08:39] <sugoi> oh right,
thanks
L479[18:08:47] <sugoi> i have another
submission coming later tonight, i'll include it with that?
L480[18:08:52] <gamax92> alright
L481[18:08:53] <sugoi> or would you like
it with this one?
L482[18:08:54] <sugoi> ok
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L485[18:09:52] <gamax92> I prefer to get
as much as possible into a pr for the reason that GitHub/git(?)
puts a stupid extra commit to indicate a merge
L486[18:10:15] <sugoi> would you like my
pr's to be collapsed into one?
L487[18:10:15] <ds84182> Why is "if
size > 4 or < 0 then" not a thing
L488[18:10:20] <sugoi> i mean
L489[18:10:22] <ds84182> that would be
perfect for Lua 5.4
L490[18:10:23] <sugoi> the commits from my
end
L491[18:10:31] <Izaya> Inari, It's a
pun
L492[18:10:38] <Izaya> ark is $30
L493[18:10:41] <Izaya> he has $20
L494[18:10:42] <gamax92> I'd prefer you'd
not do that :P
L495[18:10:45] <Izaya> so he could get 2/3
of it
L496[18:10:46] <ds84182> gamax92: But the
extra merge commit tells you who merged the commit :/
L497[18:10:49] <Izaya> as such, AR
L498[18:10:55] <ds84182> Which is useful
for large projects
L499[18:10:56] <Inari> i know
L500[18:10:59] <Inari> an im taking AR
literally
L501[18:11:00] <Inari> :P
L502[18:11:09] <gamax92> OCEmu isn't a
large project it only has 40 or so commits :P
L503[18:11:48] <ds84182> time to get out
rockstar.py and make a pull request to OCEmu
L504[18:11:58] <gamax92> u wot
L505[18:11:58] <sugoi> i may misunderstand
your preference. what i'm saying is that - in this pr i have 2
commits, would you have preferred I merged those two into 1
L506[18:12:06] <gamax92> sugoi: I'm saying
don't
L507[18:12:07] <gamax92> like never
L508[18:12:27] *
ds84182 makes induvisual commits to change each letter of a very
large commit
L509[18:12:52] <ds84182> Commit messages:
"Commit character %s on line %d of file %s in project %s by
%s"
L510[18:13:05] <ds84182> maybe line %d
column %d
L511[18:13:50] <sugoi> so you dont mind
many-commit prs, but would prefer fewer prs
L512[18:14:29] <gamax92> fewer pr's is
just to have less "MERGED X/Y/Z into B/R/J BY
HARRAFINA"
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L516[18:20:00] <sugoi> on a side note.
imaging you have some code that gets an object of an unknown type
(not lua, something with reflection). let's just say the only
resolution you have is to check the type with reflection to confirm
the right type was passed. in c# if (obj.GetType() ==
typeof(TypeIWant)) ... would be used.
L517[18:20:53] <sugoi> to me, the
preference from many (all?) here for lua is to essentially do this
(in c#) if (obj.GetType().Name == "TypeIWant") ... //
ignoring namespaces in the Name property from reflection in
c#
L518[18:21:01] <sugoi> and that...is quite
strange to me
L519[18:21:43] <sugoi> also, sorry for
typos, e.g. imaging? imagine*
L520[18:24:03] <sugoi> #lua 1<4
L521[18:24:03] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
true
L523[18:24:23] <S3> The mac performa 6300
MAc OS
L525[18:24:31] <MichiBot> S3:
Macintosh
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L526[18:24:57] *
Izaya is going to get to play with Linux on a Mac G4
L527[18:25:05] <S3> wait what
L528[18:25:07] <S3> trash it
L529[18:25:25] <S3> It may be PowerPC but
the hardware surrounding it is suckyt
L531[18:25:59] <S3> not only do you also
get an ugly laptop but you also get an awful keyboard
L532[18:26:19] <S3> and the hardware is
not worth fiddling with 90% of the time you want to take the thing
aparty
L533[18:26:35] <Izaya> uh
L534[18:26:37] <Izaya> it's a
desktop
L535[18:26:42] <S3> oh one of those
L537[18:26:53] <Izaya> a friend wants a
linux box and has a Mac with a broken finder
L539[18:28:03] <S3> should port Temple OS
to it
L540[18:28:24] <Izaya> fuckno
L541[18:28:24] <Izaya> I have a laptop
with an i3
L542[18:28:24] <Izaya> why would I use
some ancient PPC as a laptop?
L544[18:29:00] <S3> it's not that
ancient
L545[18:29:38] <S3> considering gamax92
still uses a 486....
L546[18:29:43] <S3> or something
L547[18:30:12] <Izaya> I have a 486
box
L548[18:30:17] <Temia> I've honestly
contemplated how much trouble it'd be to add a kernel module that
would take over the sound system and buffer the crash sound into
it
L549[18:30:22] <Izaya> 486SX, 32MB RAM,
1GB HDD
L550[18:30:23] <Temia> for whenever a
panic is called
L551[18:30:31] <S3> Izaya, There was this
guy in #openbsd on freenode who was talking about how he had just
recently upgraded his main computer a couple years ago. He upgraded
from EGA to VGA
L552[18:30:40] <S3> and had 4 ethernet
cards in his ISA slots
L553[18:30:50] <S3> had to screw with the
IRQs like crazy to get that to work
L554[18:30:56] <Izaya> 2GB rather
L555[18:30:57] <Izaya> waaaaat
L556[18:31:07] <gamax92> Temia:
interesting ...
L557[18:31:09] <S3> in fact his IRQs were
so messed up
L558[18:31:19] <S3> that it took him like
half an hour to generate rsa key pairs
L560[18:31:38] <S3> he ran on a 486
L561[18:31:56] <S3> ran OpenBSD..
L562[18:32:45] <gamax92> S3: I don't
really use it that much anymore except for playing music and old
dos and linux games, occasionally music and program
development
L564[18:35:18] <gamax92> yes really
...
L565[18:35:39] <S3> should put forth on
it
L566[18:35:42] <S3> make it boot that
way
L567[18:35:46] <gamax92> no i lied i made
all that shit up i totally don't have a 486 all the photos of it
and crap I've ran on the screen are fake
L568[18:35:48] <S3> and over the
years
L569[18:35:49] <Izaya> that would be
L570[18:35:53] <S3> your computer will
become more and more useful
L571[18:35:57] <Izaya> fucking awesome if
you ran FORTH on it
L572[18:36:00] <gamax92> more useless
...
L574[18:36:19] <S3> Izaya, btw
L575[18:36:44] <S3> I didn't think you'd
be interested but I have everything working in ~3K of lua code on
Open Computers for forth
L576[18:36:49] <S3> it has an interpreter
and a compiler.
L577[18:37:07] <S3> the only bug is that
you can't call functions inside of functions which I will fix VERY
soon
L578[18:37:23] <gamax92> ASAP
L580[18:37:39] <gamax92> how do you not
know what asap is
L581[18:37:46] <gamax92> As Soon As
Possible
L582[18:37:51] <gamax92> "VERY
soon"
L583[18:37:59] <S3> That's not what ASAP
stands for
L584[18:38:07] <Izaya> S3, I am very
interested
L585[18:38:07] <Izaya> 3K?
L586[18:38:21] <S3> ASAP stands for As an
Access Point
L587[18:38:30] <Izaya> Just below 4k, I
could probably make it load something from an external source in
that 1k'
L588[18:38:32] <S3> lololololololol
L589[18:38:41] <gamax92> umm ...
L590[18:38:43] <S3> Izaya, that's the
plan
L591[18:38:45] <gamax92> AAAP is not
ASAP
L592[18:38:58] <S3> the plan is to write
soem code to load forth files from /.boot on disk
L593[18:39:09] <S3> so you can add
"bootloader helpers" or whatever the heck you want
L594[18:39:10] <Izaya> I'm thinking for
drones
L595[18:39:31] <gamax92> and is also
probably the furthest definition from anyone's mind in a general
context, that sounds highly specific
L596[18:39:35] <S3> drones can take
floppies no?
L597[18:40:36] <vifino> S3: Hey there.
Whatcha think about Docker on FreeBSD?
L598[18:40:49] <vifino> Or generally
linux64 compat.
L599[18:41:01] <S3> vifino, I haven't used
it on FreeBSD, I am not sure how that would work without linux
emulation
L600[18:41:23] <Izaya> no
L601[18:41:23] <Izaya> EEPROM only
L602[18:41:25] <S3> FreeBSD does have
linux emulation, but you do need to install the libraries and
stuff
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L605[18:41:44] <gamax92> You can run 32bit
linux binaries on windows, but why would you, it's full of
issues
L606[18:41:50] <S3> Izaya, you can't do a
whoooole lot with 1K of forth but you can certainly write a network
boot with it
L607[18:42:00] <S3> and just feed it a
shitton of forth code
L608[18:42:21] <Izaya> S3, was going to
impliment it in lua, then have a second-stage that dumps it into an
interactive session or something on the server
L609[18:42:43] <vifino> S3: And? Somehow
it works. With linux64 emulation.
L610[18:42:51] <S3> Izaya, the forth
interpreter has two words for evaluating lua code
L611[18:42:51] <vifino> And it's good. Or
so I've heard.
L612[18:42:55] <S3> [L and %L
L613[18:43:15] <S3> which means that you
can extend the entire language or build your own meta language on
top of it
L614[18:43:33] <S3> vifino, :)
L615[18:43:41] <S3> vifino, just wait
until open containers is working
L616[18:43:47] <S3> itl blow docker
away
L617[18:43:53] <vifino> S3: Open
containers?
L619[18:43:59] <vifino> S3: Doubt
that.
L620[18:44:04] <vifino> Veeeery much
so.
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L623[18:45:25] <gamax92> Do you remember
that ancient project darling?
L624[18:45:44] <gamax92> where you could
run OS X stuff on linux
L625[18:45:51] <S3> sounds familiar
L626[18:46:12] <gamax92> I remember, the
first time I looked at it, it was like wow this is cool, and it
seems relatively active
L627[18:46:27] <gamax92> but then months
and months and months and months and months and months went by with
little to no activity
L628[18:46:38] <gamax92> so I stopped
caring
L629[18:46:54] <Izaya> but what does OS X
have that isn't a port of something from Windows or other
unixes?
L631[18:47:24] <gamax92> There are lots of
stuff that was made specifically and only for OS X
L632[18:47:30] <Izaya> fair point, it's a
microkernel
L633[18:47:31] <Izaya> that's cool
L634[18:47:32] <S3> Mach which is a
massive mess
L635[18:47:45] <S3> it dorks at mach
speed
L636[18:47:46] <Izaya> but didn't it end
up much less practical than something monolithic?
L637[18:48:11] <S3> type of kernel doesn't
change practicalness
L638[18:48:29] <S3> FreeBSD chose a
monolithic design because it served their practical purpose
L639[18:48:52] <S3> Apple chose their
kernel style because they suck
L641[18:49:31] <S3> they're like that one
kid that only ever plays with the jumbo megablocks and doesn't let
anyone else use em
L642[18:49:57] <S3> vifino, oh yeah
btw
L643[18:50:29] <S3> It isn't in yet, but a
docker image will be an option for the installation of my game
engine on servers, and recommended for engine clusters.
L644[18:52:23] <S3> In general, there will
be a plugin for my game engine to help these docker instances
communicate
L645[18:52:37] <S3> and help host
different portions of virtual worlds with load balancing,
etc.
L646[18:53:00] <S3> You would think that
this isn't a problem for a MUD but a lot of MUDs run into this
problem.
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L649[19:05:21] <Kodosuntu> Fucking Xubuntu
and their useless help
L650[19:06:08] <Izaya> should've used
arch
L651[19:08:11] <Kodosuntu> I just want a
distro that I can use a CLI with on startup, and if need be, run a
command that starts a desktop interface for things like surfing the
web, unless the distro has Lynx
L652[19:08:37] <Izaya> so arch?
L653[19:08:38] <Izaya> you can do that
with debian too
L654[19:08:41] <Izaya> but slow
updates
L655[19:09:17] <Temia> Yeah, Arch is
pretty much what you want
L656[19:09:39] <Izaya> linux 4.1 ftw
L657[19:12:27] <Kodosuntu> Meh, if I had
access to a computer that I could put the UUI thing back on my
stick, I'd probably try it out
L658[19:13:04] <Kodosuntu> This Xubuntu is
nice, but support is nonexistant, and none of the config stuff
matches anything I've found on help sites
L659[19:19:29] <Temia> Well, I happen to
use xfce4 with Arch myself, so I can be around if you need some
help with something
L660[19:21:47] <Kodosuntu> I basically
just need to know what I need to change in GRUB to make the
computer boot into the command line, rather than xfce
L661[19:22:46] <gamax92> uhh, I don't
think that's a grub thing?
L662[19:22:51] <Mimiru> It's not
L663[19:22:55] <Dashkal> Probably not a
grub thing. More likely a systemd thing.
L664[19:23:03] <Dashkal> Assuming *buntu
uses that
L665[19:23:03] <Mimiru> Edit
/etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf as root
L666[19:23:09] <Mimiru> and change the
DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL
L667[19:23:20] <Kodosuntu> So, sudo nano
/etc/init/rc-whatever
L668[19:23:33] <gamax92> I have no such
file here
L669[19:24:52] <gamax92> oh i guess that
is a grub thing apparently
L670[19:25:16] <Mimiru> gamax92, it's
there on all 3 of my ubuntu installs.
L671[19:25:25] <Kodosuntu> Mimiru, what do
I change the runlevel to
L672[19:25:26] <Mimiru> Kodosuntu, yeah,
if you use nano
L673[19:25:37] <gamax92> it aint there on
this ubuntu install nor my linux mint install
L674[19:26:54] <Kodosuntu> Mimiru, default
run level is set to 2, what should I change it to to boot into a
cli
L675[19:27:17] <Mimiru> Ahh, 1 will drop
to single user mode which you probably don't want...
L676[19:27:17] <gamax92> ... wat
L677[19:27:29] <gamax92> wtf is this
runlevel system where 2 is a gui
L678[19:27:48] <Mimiru> gamax92, it's
not.
L679[19:28:12] <Mimiru> 2 is the default
runlevel, then it elevates
L680[19:28:17] <Mimiru> one minute
Kodosuntu
L681[19:28:21] <Kodosuntu> k
L682[19:28:25] <Kodosuntu> Gonna get more
tea
L683[19:29:08] <Mimiru> Ahh, right.
L684[19:29:12] <Mimiru>
/etc/init/gdm.conf
L685[19:30:04] <Mimiru> Do you have that
file?
L686[19:30:07] <Kodosuntu> no
L687[19:30:23] <Kodosuntu> What version of
xubuntu are you using
L688[19:30:45] <gamax92> Kodosuntu: is
lightdm.conf or mdm.conf there?
L689[19:30:49] <Mimiru> This machine is
stock Ubuntu with XFCE installed
L690[19:31:03] <Kodosuntu> lightdm
L691[19:31:27] <gamax92> lightdm can also
be told to start with runlevel [!3] or whatever is
appropriate
L692[19:32:55] <Dashkal> This conversation
has reminded me to try to figure out why the hell I can't
consistently get any display manager to start on boot.
L693[19:33:05] <Dashkal> I ended up using
good ol agetty and startx
L695[19:34:08] <Dashkal> The symptom is
just a black screen. Bit of a pain to debug. Need to dig through
logs.
L696[19:34:33] <gamax92> I have no idea
what I'm looking at
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L699[19:35:03] <Kodosuntu> My foot, and
the view from the deck at the place I'm staying at until
Friday
L700[19:35:10] <Kodosuntu> That's the
Pacific Ocean
L701[19:35:18] <gamax92> what's the giant
fuzzy thing
L702[19:35:27] <Kodosuntu> My leg?
L703[19:35:41] <Kodosuntu> Oh
L704[19:35:42] <Kodosuntu> Tre
L705[19:35:43] <Kodosuntu> e
L706[19:35:54] <Kodosuntu> Or a bush
L707[19:35:56] <Kodosuntu> I can't
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L709[19:39:56] <sugoi> Kodosuntu: i
haven't read ALL the comments but, you don't change the default run
level, you can change what is IN that run level
L710[19:40:12] <Mimiru> sugoi, we've
cleared that up
L711[19:40:21] <sugoi> well...good job
team
L712[19:40:35] <Kodosuntu> I had asked in
xubuntu's help channel over on freenode, and they told me I needed
to add 'text' without quotes to the thing in GRUB on startup
L713[19:40:45] <Kodosuntu> Had to hold
shift or esc or some such to get the menu
L714[19:40:47] <Kodosuntu> ANd hit
'e'
L715[19:40:51] <Kodosuntu> brb]
L716[19:41:00] <Mimiru> You can edit the
grub config as well
L717[19:41:09] <Mimiru> but.. you can also
just adjust the lightdm config
L718[19:41:18] <Mimiru> which wiull
survive kernel upgrades and shit
L719[19:48:20] <Mimiru> To do it via grub
then sudo nano /etc/default/grub change the
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to ="text" exit then sudo
update-grub reboot, and you should no longer get a ui.
L720[19:48:27] <Mimiru> When you want x,
just type startx
L721[19:49:10] <Kodosuntu> x being the
desktop thing
L722[19:49:15] <Mimiru> Yes
L723[19:49:45] <Mimiru> "x" is
the X Window System
L724[19:50:31] <Kodosuntu> Okay, gonna
reboot now, and try to get weechat working
L725[19:50:48] <Kodosuntu> If I can get
that working, assumingLynx is a thing, I'm good without the x
L726[19:50:56] <Mimiru> yes lynx is a
thing
L727[19:51:00] <gamax92> links2 is also a
thing
L728[19:51:03] <gamax92> so is
elinks
L730[19:51:51] <gamax92> where is
vifino
L731[19:55:50] <gamax92> :o elinks can 256
color support?
L732[19:56:34] <Kodosuntu> Assuming the
thing I want, Lynx is a text-based web browser
L733[19:56:49] <Kodosuntu> Hoping sudo
apt-get install lynx will work
L734[19:56:54] <Kodosuntu> Back soon, if
all goes well
L735[19:57:00] <Mimiru> links2
L736[19:57:02] <Mimiru> and elinks are
too
L737[19:57:05] <Mimiru> and both are
better :P
L738[19:57:11] <Kodosuntu> Which is bett-
Alrighty
L739[19:57:17] <Kodosuntu> Back soon
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L743[20:01:16] <kodos> Worked =D
L744[20:01:52] <gamax92> you know what
else is also an awesome X less browser? netsurf-fb
L745[20:02:20] <kodos> How do I access the
different tabs/windows in WeeChat
L746[20:02:29] <kodos> And adjust
settings
L747[20:03:22] <kodos> Also someone ping
me real quick so I can see how that looks/sounds
L748[20:03:30] <Mimiru> kodos, no.'
L749[20:03:35] <kodos> Ew, pink
highlight
L750[20:05:09] <kodos> gamax92: You were
the one who suggested weechat, halp meh
L751[20:05:10] <gamax92> I've forgotten
what raw weechat looks like
L752[20:05:24] <gamax92> or how to use
weechat :P
L753[20:05:27] <kodos> lol
L754[20:05:30] <kodos> Suuuuper
L755[20:07:39] <kodos> Okay, F5 and F6
work
L756[20:07:50] <kodos> F9 and F10 scroll
the topic
L757[20:08:19] <kodos> F11 and F12 scroll
the user list
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L761[20:11:05] <Kodos> I'm guessing I
can't multitask with this
L762[20:11:18] <Kodos> ie leave IRC open,
but access the command line to do other stuff
L763[20:11:52] <gamax92> Kodos: you press
ctrl-alt-F# to access other virtual terminals
L764[20:12:04] <Kodos> Oh wicked
L765[20:12:06] <Kodos> Thanks
L766[20:12:06] <gamax92> otherwise use
something like screen or tmux to have a multi tasky terminal
L767[20:12:12] <Kodos> This'll work
L768[20:14:24] <Kodos> <3
L769[20:14:30] <Kodos> Love this :3
L770[20:15:50] <Mimiru> screen ftfw
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L772[20:16:18] <Kodos> I wonder how my
netbook will handle the shutting of the lid
L773[20:16:26] <Kodos> With it just
running in cli
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L775[20:17:13] <Kodos> Oh, I should
probably ask, and this is probably obvious, but 'shutdown' on the
cl will shutdown my computer, right?
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L777[20:19:52] <CompanionCube> Kodos:
hea
L779[20:21:04] <Kodos> I haven't used a
CLI as a main means of operation since like 1994
L780[20:21:42] <CompanionCube> It might
need some arguments
L781[20:21:50] <Kodos> I'll man it
L782[20:22:04] <CompanionCube> shutdown -h
now should work
L783[20:22:10] <Kodos> I'll check it
out
L784[20:22:16] <Kodos> Gonna let my PC
cool off while we have dinner
L785[20:22:21] <Kodos> Ta
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L795[22:11:06] <ds84182> gamax92: So I
made GLSL for the 3DS.
L796[22:11:13] <ds84182> It works,
partially
L797[22:11:20] <ds84182> something
something optimized "float constantNumber=5;void main(){float
aNumber=constantNumber+1;vec2 point=vec2(2,3);vec4
a=vec4(constantNumber,aNumber,point);}" into ".constf
const_0(5,6,2,3) MOV r0.xyzw, const_0.xyzw"
L798[22:11:31] <ds84182> at least it can
optimize well
L799[22:31:00] <Kodos> Uhh
L800[22:31:06] <Kodos> How do I push a
commit to a non-master branch
L801[22:31:14] <Kodos> Because I used git
push, and it told me things were already up to date
L802[22:33:00] <CompanionCube> Kodos: git
push <remote> <branch>
L803[22:42:50] <Kodos> What do I stick in
for remote
L804[23:06:40] <CompanionCube> Kodos:
origin
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L813[23:40:12] <Kodos> CompanionCube:
Thanks :3
L814[23:58:09] <Kodos> %g Where was After
Earth filmed on location at?
L816[23:58:39] <Kodos> Right, erm now to
figure out how to use that link