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L2[00:00:23] <gamax92> well okay, it is
possible to use Direct3D for 2D stuff i guess
L3[00:00:51] <gamax92> you setup a matrix
that is basically no projection
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L7[00:11:50] <Izaya> right
L8[00:11:59] <Izaya> more advanced event
handling implimented
L9[00:12:04] <Izaya> 40KiB memory
usage
L10[00:12:40] <dangranos> great
L11[00:12:46] <dangranos> it just crashes
on wine
L12[00:14:25] <gamax92> dangranos: what is
this?
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L15[00:14:34] <dangranos> hm?
L16[00:14:40] <dangranos> that game
L17[00:14:53] <gamax92> yes, name?
L18[00:15:05] <gamax92> zero people have
said a name
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L20[00:15:11] <dangranos> hacknet
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L22[00:15:30] <gamax92> oh, money
L23[00:15:33] <gamax92> welp
L24[00:15:51] <dangranos> there is free
beta on moddb
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L27[00:17:53] <EnderBot2> Ohai there
Lizzy
L28[00:19:11] *
Izaya is reading the source for UNIX v6's ps implimentation for the
purposes of stuff
L29[00:19:42] <dangranos> making your OS
realistic?
L30[00:20:00] <Izaya> dangranos, I want to
find out the syscall name to get running pids
L31[00:20:23] <dangranos> going down the
rabbit hole of copying/reverse engineering/porting?
L32[00:21:30] <Izaya> no, certainly
not
L33[00:21:36] <Izaya> I just want to know
the syscall name
L34[00:22:00] <dangranos> i'm crying
L35[00:22:05] <dangranos>
/bin/config.txt
L36[00:22:20] <Izaya> man 6 syscalls
L37[00:22:22] <Izaya> that works too
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L39[00:23:36] <dangranos> lol, tutorial is
more about "how to shell"
L40[00:24:35] <dangranos> okay, now this is
going into "ridicilously hilarious"
L41[00:24:51] <dangranos> "dc"
for disconnect
L42[00:25:07] <Izaya> "If you want to
get a list of processes and their parameters and real-time
statuses, use /proc"
L43[00:25:13] <Izaya> well fuck you too,
stackoverflow
L44[00:25:20] <Izaya> looks like I'm
implimenting an os.procs
L45[00:25:42] <dangranos> will we get
procfs?
L46[00:25:49] <Izaya> If someone impliments
one, sure.
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L50[00:38:15] <Izaya> If someone overwrote
coroutine.yield() they could get all the private memory of all the
programs
L51[00:38:19] <Izaya> hrm
L52[00:41:17] <v^> Izaya, private
memory?
L53[00:41:39] <Izaya> v^, it's not very
interesting, but it's stuff that only the kernel and the process
can access
L54[00:41:40] <v^> you can never get locals
without the debug api, just envs
L55[00:48:22] <Sandra> Izaya, SDL was based
on directx.
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L58[01:00:53] <Izaya> I have a system with
timesharing in less than 10KiB of easy-to-read source code
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L64[01:31:04] <ShrewdSpirit> hello
L65[01:31:58] <Izaya> hai
L67[01:34:31] <Izaya> bah
L68[01:34:38] <Izaya> to do a proper event
system I'll have to-
L69[01:34:53] <Izaya> wait, I literally
just have to use each process' event stack
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L71[01:36:37] zsh
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L72[01:36:59] <ShrewdSpirit> is it possible
to leave messages for Sangar so when he comes, he can see my
message?
L73[01:37:24] <Izaya> .msg
L74[01:37:25] <Vexatos> %tell ShrewdSpirit
maybe.
L75[01:37:25] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
ShrewdSpirit will be notified of this message when next seen.
L76[01:37:33] <ShrewdSpirit> oh
L77[01:37:49] <ShrewdSpirit> .
L78[01:37:58] <ShrewdSpirit> Vexatos: I'm
not notified :-?
L79[01:40:14] <ShrewdSpirit> .msg Sangar
hello. I've an idea for even system. isn't it better to use event
callback instead of polling events manually? something like real
computers IRQs. that would be a lot better I guess. also it can
help to use timers, like when CPU ticks a timer callback will be
called. this helps implementing real threads
L80[01:40:30] <Izaya> I don't think we have
.msg actually
L81[01:40:31] <ShrewdSpirit> well, that
should be /msg :/
L82[01:40:32] <Izaya> .tell perhaps?
L83[01:40:43] <Izaya> I dunno, maybe /msg
Sangar message
L84[01:40:55] <ShrewdSpirit> yeah that's
/msg :D
L85[01:41:08] <ShrewdSpirit> I hope he see
this, also any ideas on my idea? :D
L86[01:41:17] <Izaya> His bouncer should
keep that
L87[01:41:55] <Izaya> ShrewdSpirit, event
system with IRQs instead of polling is implimented by the OS
L88[01:42:00] <Izaya> sauce: I'm doing that
now
L89[01:42:32] <ShrewdSpirit> Izaya: really?
how??? I've just seen pollEvent around. also what about
timers?
L90[01:42:57] <Vexatos> ShrewdSpirit,
"event callback"?
L91[01:43:10] <Izaya> pull an event for
0.1, if time is more than the next timer, execute
L92[01:43:13] <Vexatos> do you mean
event.liste+
L93[01:43:16] <Vexatos> event.listen*
L94[01:43:20] <Vexatos> ~w
event.listen
L96[01:44:21] <ShrewdSpirit> nah, not like
that, like we register a handler function using an internal API,
then CPU or whatever else fires an event and that function will be
called
L97[01:44:27] <ShrewdSpirit>
*automatically*
L98[01:45:01] <Izaya> but
L99[01:45:04] <Izaya> you can do it with
the OS
L100[01:45:14] <Izaya> and if needed, you
can write your own handler that does something totally
different
L101[01:45:18] <Izaya> this is more
flexible if less work
L102[01:45:28] <Izaya> more flexible if
more work*
L103[01:46:44] <ShrewdSpirit> I know what
you mean, that requires an event loop. I mean something like,
windows API winproc. events can be received though that
function
L104[01:46:53] <ShrewdSpirit>
wndproc*
L105[01:47:15] <ShrewdSpirit> we just
register a callback by winapi
L106[01:48:52] <Izaya> event.listen
L107[01:48:53] <Izaya> dude
L108[01:48:58] <Izaya> have you even been
listening?
L109[01:49:48] <ShrewdSpirit> oh, god D:
I'm blind
L110[01:49:59] <ShrewdSpirit> does that do
the thing I mean?
L111[01:50:00] <ShrewdSpirit> D:
L112[01:50:25] <Izaya> pretty much
L113[01:50:29] <Izaya> but it's
implimented by the OS
L114[01:50:42] <Izaya> so if you want to
do it on the bare metal you have to either re-use or
re-impliment
L115[01:51:05] <Izaya> I would use the
OpenOS event lib except a) it's not for threading and b) it's the
size of the entire rest of my OS
L116[01:51:38] <ShrewdSpirit> oh
L117[01:52:04] <Sandra> yeah.
L118[01:52:07] <ShrewdSpirit> that's a
huge lib!
L119[01:52:19] <Sandra> you'd still have
to call event.pull()
L120[01:52:33] <Izaya> it only has to be
8KiB to be bigger than my OS so far though
L121[01:52:45] <Sandra> then that handles
all events and if any listeners exist calls them.
L122[01:53:51] <ShrewdSpirit> yeah,
right
L123[01:54:05] <ShrewdSpirit> so there's
no hope for real threads and stuff :(
L124[01:54:47] <Izaya> without the full
debug API you'll have coop multitasking at best
L125[01:55:16] <Sandra> no real threads,
but coop multitasking should be fine no?
L126[01:55:31] <ShrewdSpirit> coop?
L127[01:55:43] <Izaya> cooperative
L128[01:55:49] <Izaya> the programs have
to explicitly yield
L129[01:55:56] <ShrewdSpirit> aha
L130[01:56:06] <Izaya> or you can put
coroutine.yield in all the functions.
L131[01:56:44] <ShrewdSpirit> that
requires explicitly calling yield function AFAIK, right?
L132[01:56:50] <Izaya> well
L133[01:56:59] <Izaya> you put a yield in
all the functions you impliment
L134[01:57:17] <Izaya> so as long as the
program doesn't do something stupid like while true do end you'll
yield often
L135[01:58:02] <ShrewdSpirit> right
L136[01:58:46] <Sandra> and OC forces you
to yield anyway else it crashes the computer.
L137[01:58:57] <Sandra> "too long
without yielding."
L138[01:59:18] <Izaya> Sandra, wrong
L139[01:59:22] <Izaya> it crashes the
coroutine
L140[01:59:33] <Izaya> so it'll kill the
coroutine and the rest of the computer will continue
L141[01:59:37] <Sandra> well, yeah,
true.
L142[01:59:40] <Sandra> that.
L143[02:00:15] <Sandra> but you still have
to yield if you have a single-threaded app. is my point.
L144[02:00:24] <Sandra> listening for
events counts as yielding.
L145[02:01:22] <ShrewdSpirit> true. BTW do
you use any IDEs for Lua?
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L147[02:04:41] *
Izaya uses vim
L148[02:05:16] *
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completion
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Sandra uses IDEA, although that's a bit OP.
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L152[02:06:30] <Sandra> but it has a
pretty good lua plugin.
L153[02:06:32] <Vexatos> I just had to set
up atom because np++ is slow on linux
L154[02:06:41] <Vexatos> :/
L155[02:07:04] <ShrewdSpirit> Vexatos:
atom is slow too. it's all in html and js
L156[02:07:19] <Sandra> html and js is not
slow.
L157[02:07:23] <Sandra>
neccessarily.
L158[02:07:36] <Vexatos> it's still faster
than wine->NP++
L159[02:07:40] <ShrewdSpirit> electron's
start time is too long
L160[02:07:44] <Sandra> yeah,
L161[02:07:56] <Vexatos> And I don't care
about it using 400MB of RAM
L162[02:08:02] <Sandra> I do actually use
np++ for lua actually.
L163[02:08:05] <Vexatos> because this
computer is awesome \:D/
L164[02:08:19] <ShrewdSpirit> Vexatos:
specs? xD
L165[02:08:21] <Sandra> not the best but
it works.
L166[02:08:37] <Vexatos> (Still, atom uses
way more RAM than Cinnamon does, which is weird for a
text
editor)
L167[02:08:50] <Izaya> NP++ is nice, but
it's a Windows program and as such is minimal use
L168[02:09:07] <Vexatos> I wish there was
an NP++ for linux <_<
L169[02:09:21] <Izaya> there's plenty of
comparable ones
L170[02:09:23] <ShrewdSpirit> because atom
uses electron, and electron uses chromium + iojs. chromium spawns
multiple processes and threads
L171[02:09:28] <Sandra> I really don't
know the difference between NP++ and like gedit.
L172[02:09:40] <Izaya> the first that
comes to mind is gedit, it seems to have the most features of the
plain linux GUI text editors
L173[02:09:44] <Vexatos> "By
optimizing as many routines as possible without losing user
friendliness, Notepad++ is trying to reduce the world carbon
dioxide emissions" k
L174[02:09:53] <Vexatos> best
advertisement on a texteditor ever
L175[02:09:56] <Sandra> gedit is my
favourite unix text editor.
L176[02:10:07] <Izaya> vim is my favourite
editor
L177[02:10:10] <Vexatos> no wait
L178[02:10:11] <Izaya> it can even do
hex
L179[02:10:12] <Vexatos> There is a better
one
L181[02:10:31] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
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L182[02:10:33] <Vexatos> obviously
L183[02:10:39] <Vexatos> best. ad.
ever.
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L185[02:12:28] <Izaya> I swear
L186[02:12:39] <Izaya> if this video gives
me ads for hipster editors...
L187[02:12:56] <Vexatos> That reminds
me
L188[02:13:02] <Vexatos> I still need to
customize vim
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L191[02:15:39] <Izaya> Vexatos, did you
honestly say it uses 400MiB?
L192[02:16:14] <Vexatos> right now only
120
L193[02:16:17] <Izaya> That is
legitimiately even more memory usage than emacs
L194[02:16:46] <Izaya> Vexatos, atom over
ssh is how horribad?
L195[02:17:04] <Vexatos> "over
ssh"?
L196[02:17:18] <Izaya> ssh -X or -Y
L197[02:17:24] <Izaya> X11
forwarding
L198[02:17:25] <Vexatos> no idea
L199[02:17:27] <Vexatos> why would I
try
L200[02:17:40] <Izaya> 'cause then you
could work from another machine?
L201[02:17:53] <Vexatos> Well, uhm... I'd
need the GUI anyway
L202[02:17:54] <Vexatos> atom is not a
terminal editor
L203[02:18:03] <Sandra> Izaya, it'd be
like chromium over SSH.
L204[02:18:05] <Izaya> Vexatos, X11
forwarding gives you the GUI
L205[02:18:10] <Izaya> >.<
L206[02:18:10] <Vexatos> .-.
L207[02:18:24] <Sandra> except
better.
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server
L210[02:22:25] <Vexatos> does anyone of
you use gvim?
L211[02:22:42] <Izaya> I use gvim when I'm
forced to use Windows
L212[02:22:49] <Vexatos> mhm
L213[02:23:53] <Vexatos> well, need to
admit atom is pretty. And natively supports git because you totally
need that for some reason
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L216[02:48:28] <ShrewdSpirit> ~w redstone
card
L218[02:49:14] <ShrewdSpirit> what's the
difference between tier 1 and tier 2 redstone cards?
L219[02:51:52] <ShrewdSpirit> nvm
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table.remove
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L234[05:10:26] <meigrafd> lo
L237[05:15:47] <meigrafd> the problem is
that rcount doenst get higher
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L240[05:51:23] <meigrafd> got it...
L241[05:51:48] <meigrafd> forgot to create
the other array dimension
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L243[06:23:51] <ShrewdSpirit> how heavy
moonscript compiled files are for OC? they are full of tables if
classes are used
L244[06:24:08] <ShrewdSpirit> s/how/how
much
L245[06:24:08] <Kibibyte>
<ShrewdSpirit> how much heavy moonscript compiled files are
for OC? they are full of tables if classes are used
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L288[10:36:05] <montana> any way to detect
what block is in front of a robot?
L289[10:37:14] <montana> similar to
turtle.inspect() in computerCraft?
L290[10:40:47] <Vexatos>
robot.detect()?
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L292[10:44:14] <reinei> gosh google
doesn't like me right now
L293[10:44:32] <dangranos> you're bot,
reinei!
L294[10:45:02] <reinei> soo guys (and gals
for that matter) I need a way to match balanced words in lua
L295[10:45:37] <dangranos> to match
what?
L296[10:45:41] <reinei> not just the
ordinary '%b()' but more like '%bword1 word2' (not EXACTLY like
that but you know)
L297[10:45:45] <montana> robot.detect
gives very little information
L298[10:45:58] <dangranos> montana, what
did you expected? NBT data?
L299[10:46:00] <reinei> dangranos: like
parentheses, but with 'words'
L300[10:46:17] <reinei> like if starts a
block and end closes it or something
L301[10:46:31] <reinei> just that I need
if and then to be the boundaries
L303[10:47:10] <dangranos> well, you could
just find some code that does same with parenteses and rewrite to
use what you need
L304[10:47:26] <dangranos> also,
montana
L305[10:47:30] <dangranos>
ahahahahahahaha
L306[10:47:36] <dangranos> sorry
L307[10:48:02] <montana> huh?
L308[10:48:03] <dangranos> but you cant
get NBT data at all in Oc (unless you have hacky addon..) and i
dont really know what it returns
L309[10:48:14] <dangranos> hm
L310[10:48:25] <reinei> dangranos: well
parentheses are easy: '%b()' but that won't work with more than one
character per delimiter
L311[10:48:54] <montana> bummer. i wrote a
fully automated branch mining program that would even recursively
mine ore veins, but i need NBT data to do that
L312[10:49:09] <dangranos> again,
ahahahaha
L313[10:49:20] <dangranos> btw, there is a
"database" upgrade
L314[10:49:28] <dangranos> you could look
at working with that one
L315[10:49:45] <montana> it was in cc and
i wanted to port it, any chance something will be added in an
update at any time?
L316[10:49:47] <dangranos> it doesn't tell
you nbt but it can store and compare info about blocks
L317[10:49:50] <dangranos> iirc
L318[10:49:53] <reinei> montana: one of
the Rules afaik is: no direct NBT access, for security and otehr
reasons I guess
L319[10:50:26] <meigrafd> [17:36:03]
(montana): any way to detect what block is in front of a
robot?
L320[10:50:26] <meigrafd> [17:37:13]
(montana): similar to turtle.inspect() in computerCraft?
L321[10:50:28] <dangranos> eh, something
like direct NBT reading is cheaty and "magic"
L322[10:50:30] <meigrafd> geolyzer
L323[10:50:38] <dangranos> ^ not
really
L324[10:50:49] <montana> i need it in a
robot
L325[10:50:56] <meigrafd> yea
L326[10:50:58] <dangranos> it can be in a
robot iirc
L327[10:51:02] <dangranos> as
upgrade
L328[10:51:08] <meigrafd> craft it with
the geolyzer block in it
L329[10:51:09] <montana> seems limiting
not to be able to detect what is in front of you
L330[10:51:14] <dangranos> ._.
L331[10:51:21] <montana> can you do
that?
L332[10:51:25] <meigrafd> yes
L333[10:51:40] <meigrafd> im using it that
way too
L334[10:51:45] <dangranos> geolyzer can
detect if it's an ore
L335[10:51:54] <dangranos> or air or
useless block
L336[10:51:57] <meigrafd> to verify a
nuclear reactor chamber is in front of robot
L337[10:52:06] <dangranos> further away -
less accuracy at detection
L339[10:52:30] <meigrafd> local data =
geo.analyze(side.front)
L340[10:52:31] <meigrafd> if
stringMatch(data.name, "ReactorChamber") then
L341[10:53:28] <montana> this is exactly
what i am looking for and ive already written thousands of lines of
code that i couldnt port without it
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L343[11:03:55] <Kodos> I'm curious what
the optional options are for geo.analyze
L344[11:14:01] <meigrafd> ?
L345[11:15:34] <Izaya> #lua 16384/64
L346[11:15:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
256.0
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L353[11:47:36] <Kodos> So apparently if
you upgrade a part in your computer while using Windows 10, it
invalidates your W10 install
L355[11:48:59] <meigrafd> it should
receive a modem_message
L356[11:50:50] <gamax92> Kodos: yup,
because it's no longer the same machine
L357[11:50:54] <Lizzy> Kodos, for the free
upgrade, yep
L358[11:51:12] <Skye> O_o
L359[11:51:14] <Kodos> Also how good is a
GeForce 660 TI
L360[11:51:26] <Lizzy> about low-mid
range
L361[11:51:33] <meigrafd> better take 960
;)
L362[11:51:42] <meigrafd> or 950...
L363[11:51:43] <Kodos> meigrafd, I'm not
paying for this one, it's being given to me
L364[11:51:48] <Lizzy> meigrafd, not all
of us are made of money
L365[11:51:55] <meigrafd> hehe
L366[11:51:59] <Kodos> Lizzy, do you know
if it's better than an AMD Radeon HD 6850?
L367[11:52:06] <gamax92> I have a 650 TI
and that works pretty well
L368[11:52:09] <Lizzy> i don't do
amd
L369[11:52:25] <Lizzy> also my 560Ti
manages to play SE quite well
L370[11:53:30] <meigrafd> the 950 is a
very good beginner card
L371[11:54:04] <gamax92> Kodos: it's
apparently generally faster than a 6850 in everything but one
aspect
L372[11:54:11] <Kodos> Wassat
L373[11:54:39] <Izaya> meigrafd:
expensiiiiive
L374[11:54:55] <Skye> How bad is an ATI
5850? :P
L375[11:55:01] <Kodos> meigrafd, I support
my wife and myself on 720 USD a month, plus a couple hundred bucks
in food stamps
L376[11:55:10] <Kodos> So unless you're
buying me said 950, please stop talking about it
L377[11:55:13] <Izaya> Skye: ATI
L378[11:55:38] <gamax92> Also I avoid AMD
since I'm on linux
L379[11:56:34] <Temia> It's ironic. ATI
was the first with official open-sauce drivers and it's since
tanked.
L380[11:56:42] <Skye> Izaya, it was
branded ATI
L381[11:56:52] <Izaya> 750Ti strikes a
good balance between power and price at the moment
L382[11:57:12] <meigrafd> please stop
telling me what about i can write and what not ...
L383[11:57:18] <Izaya> but a mid or better
5 or 6 series is sufficient at the moment
L384[11:57:39] <Izaya> or really anything
newer than a 4
L385[11:57:42] <gamax92> meigrafd: nobody
here has to listen to your shit
L386[11:57:52] <gamax92> meigrafd: they
can freely kick you out if they wish
L387[11:57:54] <meigrafd> repeating
L388[11:58:10] <Izaya> DX11 was first with
the 4 series IIRC
L389[11:58:25] <gamax92> 4### isn't even
supported any more
L390[11:58:34] <Izaya> no
L391[11:58:36] <Izaya> 4xx
L392[11:58:41] <gamax92> oh nvidia
L393[12:00:27] <meigrafd> gamax92 i dont
see any reason why hes in the position to tell me about what im
allowed to write here... Lizzy wrote its to expensive but the 950
isnt realy expensive ... why im not allowed to tell her that??
tzzzz
L394[12:00:50] <Kodos> !kick meigrafd This
is the position I'm in to tell you that.
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L397[12:01:03] <meigrafd> wow...
L398[12:01:16] <gamax92> Temia: i dunno,
I've had 0 good experiences with fglrx, but nvidia's blob has
worked just fine for me, apart from occasionally needing to
manually build the kernel modules
L399[12:01:44] <meigrafd> how adult was
that? :/
L400[12:01:45] <gamax92> and by manually
building I mean yelling at dkms to build them :P
L401[12:01:48] <Izaya> "Does that
answer your question?"
L402[12:01:57] <Kodos> I pay 300 dollars a
month rent. That leaves ~420 USD a month. After bills, gas in my
truck so we can actually go GET food, and getting stuff we need for
the house, I usually have about 30-40 bucks a month. If I'm
lucky.
L403[12:02:02] <Lizzy> meigrafd, Kodos
said he doesn't have that sort of money to spend so saying things
like "you should get this highend card" is really
annoying. If you don't have anything constructive to say: Kepp your
mouth shut
L404[12:02:07] <Kodos> So fuck off with
your 'it's not that expensive' bullshit
L405[12:02:15] <meigrafd> was my comment
to Kodos ? no
L406[12:02:23] <Temia> 300? Lucky. I'm
paying 500. :<
L407[12:02:34] <Kodos> My parents are my
landlords
L408[12:02:36] <Kodos> So yeah
L409[12:02:37] <Izaya> Kodos: I was gonna
get a 660 before MSY stopped selling em
L410[12:02:55] <Izaya> Then they stopped
selling 760s too
L411[12:03:01] <Stary2001> gg
L412[12:03:07] <Izaya> so now I have a
750Ti
L413[12:03:11] <Kodos> Izaya, my brother
has one he's not using, and was going to give to me
L414[12:03:20] <Kodos> So I'm trying to
find out whether it's better than my current one
L415[12:03:30] <Izaya> What's your current
one?
L416[12:03:34] <gamax92> if the 6850 was
your current one, then yes it's a better card
L417[12:03:36] <Kodos> AMD Radeon HD
6850
L418[12:03:53] <Izaya> oshit apples to
cubes
L419[12:04:14] <gamax92> apples to cubes
... haven't heard that version before
L420[12:04:47] <Izaya> gamax92: exactly
:D
L421[12:05:46] <Izaya> Kodos: I'd
reccomend just googling <card 1> vs <card 2>
L422[12:05:59] <Izaya> you'll find
benchmarks online
L423[12:06:01] <gamax92> Kodos: I'm pretty
sure the 660Ti needs an extra power cable directly to the card, so
you should atleast make sure your psu has that
L424[12:06:16] <Kodos> It's a modular PSU,
it has like a dozen cables
L425[12:06:29] <Kodos> And it's 750W, so
it should be able to handle it
L426[12:06:40] <Kodos> >Should
L427[12:06:40] <Lizzy> meigrafd, the way
you said it made it look like you were aiming it at him. in future
specify who it is you're talking to. as for "being in the
position of telling you what you can write here": anyone who
is voiced (+) or opped (@) are trusted by me and the other
ops
L428[12:07:41] <gamax92> oh 6850 needs two
6 pin power cables anyway, so you should be fine with external
power
L429[12:07:52] <Kodos> Okey
L430[12:08:02] <meigrafd> Lizzy i still
dont think that the reaction was appropriate
L431[12:08:02] <Kodos> Now I need to
decide if I want it today, or worry about it when we get back from
Oregon
L432[12:09:13] <meigrafd> *was not
appropriate
L433[12:09:24] <Kodos> You had it right
the first time
L434[12:09:30] <Kodos> Since you said you
did not think
L435[12:09:36] <Kodos> instead of you did
think
L436[12:09:39] <Kodos> becuase
grammar
L437[12:09:52] <meigrafd> mh k
L438[12:09:53] <Kodos> I CAN SPELZ
GEWD
L439[12:10:44] <Izaya> ... 3 AM - I should
sleep soon
L440[12:11:01] <gamax92> Izaya: nooooo,
continue to work on your OS thingy
L441[12:11:23] <Izaya> gamax92: I'm on my
tablet
L442[12:11:35] <Izaya> also I accidentally
rm -r'd the whole thing
L443[12:11:55] <Izaya> ... psyche!
L444[12:12:21] <Izaya> I did actually rm
-r it, but I had it in another place too.
L445[12:12:29] *
gamax92 claps
L446[12:12:53] <Izaya> about 5 minutes of
work was lost
L447[12:13:09] <Lizzy> meigrafd, whether
it was appropriate or not is not your decision. I think it was
justified giving the circumstances though i have told Kodos to try
and not let his emotions get in the way of his moderating
ability
L448[12:13:17] <Izaya> Always keep
backups, guys
L449[12:13:29] <Lizzy> na
L450[12:13:35] *
Izaya wants to be +
L451[12:13:44] <gamax92> Izaya: what about
the not-guys
L452[12:13:54] <Izaya> mind you, we all
know how that would end
L453[12:14:06] <gamax92> isn't + just
voice?
L454[12:14:12] <Kodos> gamax92, yes, but I
have flags
L455[12:14:12] <Lizzy> yes
L456[12:14:24] <Izaya> gamax92: guys is
used as a nonspecific term to refer to any sentient entity
L457[12:14:47] <Kodos> I'm honestly
curious as to why Izaya isn't voiced at this point
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L459[12:15:10] <Kodos> h3po! =D
L460[12:15:32] *
Kodos realizes he read that like Dabo for a moment
L461[12:15:57] *
gamax92 wonders why he's eating this rubber cheese atm
L462[12:16:21] <Izaya> Kodos: I have a
tendancy to get wired on caffeine and poke large bears
L463[12:16:44] <Kodos> No one will ever be
as bad as Kenny.
L464[12:16:50] <Kodos> He was cool, but on
his bad days... sheesh
L465[12:16:55] <Izaya> as such nothing I
say is endorsed by the OpenComputers project
L466[12:17:35] <Temia> moooo. .o.
L467[12:17:46] *
Lizzy pets Temia
L468[12:17:49] *
gamax92 pets Temia
L469[12:17:53] *
Lizzy sneezes
L470[12:18:01] <gamax92> ninjas .-.
L471[12:18:19] <Skye> doublepet
L472[12:18:25] <Lizzy> pet^2
L473[12:18:32] <Kodos> Izaya, that's like
me saying that my opinion of CC is not endorsed by #oc or its
owners and operators
L474[12:19:06] <Izaya> Kodos: Also you're
not in my channel, you haven't seen me on a bad day
L475[12:19:12] <Kodos> Oh oh
L476[12:19:14] <Kodos> Invite invite
L477[12:19:19] *
Temia tailswishes and leans into petpets =w=
L478[12:19:27] <meigrafd> Lizzy his
reaction was exaggerated and disrespectful ... but anyway, only coz
he can kick/ban i dont see the point why im not allow to write that
the 950 is a good beginner card ? o0
L479[12:19:28] *
vifino gives Lizzy a tissue and pets her
L480[12:19:33] <Izaya> #SKSDev
L481[12:19:51] <meigrafd> ...and now that
theme is over for me
L482[12:20:10] <Izaya> Like, it's hidden
but it's not private.
L483[12:20:40] <Lizzy> Izaya, i invited
him
L484[12:22:38] *
Negi gives a cookie to Temia.
L485[12:22:50] *
Temia noms on cookie.
L486[12:23:22] <Kodos> MFW I'm explaining
SCADA to my wife, and I just use the thermostat as an example
L487[12:23:34] <Temia> If I ever get
around to digging into Minecraft modding, I think I might build a
VT101-style terminal to combine keyboard and screen into a single
block and save on desk space.
L488[12:23:56] <Temia> Of course, it'd
totally lose scaleability like monitors, but that just means they
still have a useful niche.
L489[12:23:57] <vifino> :o
L490[12:24:11] <Kodos> 10/10 would
use
L491[12:24:16] <vifino> ^
L492[12:24:27] <Izaya> Temia: Will you
write us a vector graphics terminal?
L493[12:24:29] <gamax92> am not sure if
would use but would probably use
L494[12:24:33] <gamax92> VECTOR
GRAPHICS
L495[12:24:44] <Izaya> Vex has said no
:,
L496[12:24:45] <Lizzy> .-. ffs steam don't
download SE workshop content whilst i'm downloading E:D
L497[12:24:46] <Izaya> :<
L498[12:24:50] <gamax92> Vexatos wtf
L499[12:24:54] <vifino> Izaya: If that
happens, time to port gnuplot :3
L500[12:24:58] <Kodos> Oh jesus yes, 3D
plotting of where ores are using geolyzer and vector math
L501[12:25:10] <Kodos> OH
L502[12:25:12] <Vexatos> .-.
L503[12:25:17] <Izaya> I personally wanted
to visualize networks
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L505[12:25:23] <Kodos> You could write an
algorithm for finding the best mining tunnel path to get all the
ores
L506[12:25:27] <Temia> ...That would be
pretty cool buuuut I think that might be a bit overkill
L507[12:25:29] <Izaya> or play lunar
lander
L508[12:25:34] <Vexatos> I'd need it for a
train station map
L509[12:25:37] <Vexatos> but meh
L510[12:25:43] <Izaya> that would be
cool
L511[12:25:43] <gamax92> well okay okay,
we can still use OpenGlasses(?) as a vector terminal
L512[12:25:45] <Kodos> What's that thing
that fractals github commits
L513[12:25:47] <Skye> Temia, that reminds
me of a mod idea I had. A system where peripherals would use serial
cables.
L514[12:26:02] <gamax92> vector
terminal?
L515[12:26:11] <Lizzy> hmm, i need to get
into holograms at some point
L516[12:26:27] <gamax92> OpenGlasses is
nice, it doesn't really 3d though
L517[12:26:42] <Temia> It can, but it's
very process-intensive.
L518[12:26:50] <Kodos> That reminds
me
L519[12:26:54] <gamax92> you expect
farther away stuff to be behind, but it's based on how you drew
it
L520[12:26:58] <Kodos> I still need to
bother my brother about that 3D low poly face I wanted
L521[12:27:00] <Kodos> For Dave
L522[12:27:16] <Temia> So if you were
bored, you could probably write a Star Fox clone or something with
OpenGlasses, though input interface might be tricky
L523[12:27:54] <Temia> Maybe the VRAM
update could carry the potential to do polygons if it does end up
being a full graphics backend
L524[12:28:20] <Izaya> I just wanted a
tektronics
L525[12:30:09] <Temia> I still dunno what
happened to that whole thing.
L526[12:31:09] <gamax92> Temia: the hiatus
VRAM update?
L527[12:31:37] <ds84182> Well, I would do
it, but then I would get brain cancer due to Scala radiation.
L528[12:31:49] <vifino> Izaya: and use
`plot` just like in the at&t unix commercial :3
L529[12:32:11] <Izaya> commercial?
L530[12:32:13] <Izaya> link
L532[12:32:59] <MichiBot> vifino:
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L533[12:33:41] <vifino> I
L534[12:33:43] <vifino> ..
L535[12:33:43] <Temia> Is that what its
status is?]
L536[12:33:52] <Izaya> okay
L537[12:33:54] <Temia> I haven't heard
anything about it since the issue went up on Github.
L538[12:33:55] <Izaya> movie time
L539[12:34:03] <vifino> I'm at my
grandparrents', so I can't give you exact positions.
L540[12:34:11] <Izaya> back in half an
hour
L541[12:36:03] <Temia> Do you know if
there's any sort of draft whipped up, Gamax?
L542[12:36:08] <vifino> Izaya: it should
be around 16:00,
L543[12:36:14] <gamax92> I do not
L544[12:36:17] <Temia> foo.
L545[12:36:41] <Lizzy> bar
L546[12:36:47] <gamax92> oh jeez, orange
has commented on it
L547[12:37:24] <gamax92> .-. i don't get
his comment
L548[12:37:46] *
vifino Lizzysmooch <3
L549[12:37:57] <vifino> I think i have to
go soon, gonna go home then \o/
L550[12:38:01] <vifino> weee
L551[12:38:05] <Stary2001> lel
L552[12:38:09] *
Lizzy vifinosmooch <3
L553[12:38:21] <Lizzy> :3
L554[12:38:28] <vifino> :3
L555[12:38:41] <vifino> Stary2001 b liek
"lel"
L556[12:38:51] <Temia> Maybe some
organisation would help get the VRAM update actually moving
>.>
L557[12:39:06] <gamax92> "I'll start
making API details in a second."
L558[12:39:10] <gamax92> ds84182 ^
L559[12:39:37] <Temia> Mmkay
>.>
L560[12:39:46] <Temia> I didn't see that
so
L561[12:39:56] <gamax92> yeah but, it
didn't happen
L562[12:39:59] <Temia> Oh.
L563[12:40:01] <Temia> .w.
L565[12:40:26] <vifino> My grandma made me
tuna salad! \o/
L566[12:40:37] *
vifino is addicted to tuna
L568[12:40:54] <MichiBot> gamax92: Sangar
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L569[12:42:01] <gamax92> I like Skye's
idea though
L570[12:43:20] <Skye> \o/
L571[12:43:25] <Temia> Makes me wonder if
the whole thing hasn't entered into feature creep territory
though
L572[12:43:32] <gamax92> ehh?
L573[12:44:45] <Temia> The starting idea
was a backbuffer to draw large amounts of formatted text in one
shot. Now we've gone and turned it into something akin to a
PC9801
L574[12:45:14] <Skye> It turned into
graphics after we saw a screenshot of computercraft graphics
L575[12:45:47] <Temia> ahh.
L576[12:46:00] <Temia> That said if we do
go this route
L577[12:46:05] <Temia> I hope we see some
games.
L578[12:46:10] <Temia> And visual
novels.
L579[12:46:12] <Stary2001> haha
L580[12:46:13] <gamax92> err, what
screenshot of cc graphics
L581[12:46:23] <Temia> :colbert:
L582[12:46:50] <ds84182> gamax92: I still
blame scala
L583[12:47:07] <gamax92> ds84182: you
don't have to work in scala >_>
L584[12:47:08] <ds84182> I remembered that
everything was written in scala, then I had a heart attack and
died
L585[12:47:13] <gamax92> that's Sangar's
job
L586[12:47:14] <ds84182> gamax92: ... yes
I do
L587[12:47:20] <ds84182> .
L588[12:47:21] <ds84182> .-.
L589[12:47:43] <gamax92> it gives him more
Scala practice, and allows others to not work in Scala
L590[12:47:49] *
gamax92 nods
L591[12:51:00] <Temia> I was thinking
about possibly having graphics having to be objects in normal RAM
outside of the main canvas, but that nerfs backbuffers pretty hard
becaaauuuuse 640x400x8 is a whopping 2MBs of memory even in an
optimised binary structure
L592[12:52:01] <Temia> Tier 2 systems are
a bit luckier in that respect. 320x200x4 is only 256KB of
memory.
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L597[13:08:06] <gamax92> characters are
obviously not what I'd use, I was using a text editor
L598[13:08:35] <vifino> gamax92: :o
solitare!
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L601[13:10:42] <Temia> Heh, cute
L602[13:11:25] <vifino> ._. braaaain. Stop
reading Tuna instead of Temia .-.
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L605[13:11:43] <gamax92> X3
L606[13:11:45] <Temportalist> Hi!
L607[13:11:53] <gamax92> Hello
L608[13:12:46] <vifino> gamax92: brain
stop read tuna how
L609[13:13:04] <Temportalist> I have
recently started tinkering with OpenComputers, and I have a
question. Is there a way to disable the terminal, so that when I
run a program, I can draw boxes on the screen, which will act like
buttons? (Working from scratch to make a touchscreen-like
interface)
L610[13:13:24] <gamax92> remove the
keyboard from the screen then?
L611[13:13:30] <vifino> ^
L612[13:17:48] <Temportalist> OK. ill try
that.
L613[13:17:49] <Temportalist> How about
calling a program from another program (e.g. a script from the
autorun file)
L614[13:22:31] <vifino> Where is S3 when I
need him? .-.
L615[13:24:27] <Temportalist> is the
process api the correct implementation for running a program from a
program?
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L619[13:38:17] <pythonxz> Hi
L620[13:39:19] <pythonxz> my names python
i like minecraft
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L622[13:45:42] <nxsupert> Shame we use Lua
:P
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L625[13:49:49] <ds84182> Was... that a 6
year old?
L626[13:50:35] <ds84182> Also, I
completely fucked up my 3DS, so I need to go buy a new one
L627[13:59:06] <gamax92> Temportalist:
shell.execute
L628[14:03:33] <Temportalist> gamax92:
that worked, thank you
L629[14:04:23] <vifino> ds84182:
wat.
L630[14:04:35] <Temportalist> im going to
take a break from working on this. Might pop back later :)
L631[14:04:43] <Vexatos> ds84182, what
happened
L632[14:05:06] <dangranos> so
L633[14:05:16] <dangranos> i'm playing
that "hacknet" game
L634[14:05:28] <dangranos> it's
redicioulsy small compared to uplink
L635[14:05:32] <Vexatos> Temia, use
os.execute
L636[14:05:34] <Vexatos> it's better
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L638[14:05:42] <Vexatos> Temportalist
*
L639[14:05:46] *
Vexatos sues autocomplete
L640[14:05:54] <Temia> Moo. `o`
L641[14:06:00] *
dangranos pats Temia
L642[14:06:04] <Vexatos> Hi Temia, you saw
nothing
L643[14:06:08] <Vexatos> go back to being
bovine
L644[14:06:18] <Temportalist> ok
L645[14:06:28] <vifino> Vexatoast be
vexatoastin'.
L646[14:07:03] <dangranos> heh, hacknet is
so hackable
L647[14:07:22] <dangranos> i mean, you can
easily change "missions" and etc..
L648[14:08:53] <Temia> Mmkay
L649[14:08:59] *
Temia leans into the pats and tailswishes. muuuu =w=
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L652[14:10:08] *
Skye gets a pillow and duvet and rolls self up in the duvet and
places head on pillow
L653[14:10:12] <Skye> goodnight...
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L655[14:14:06] <ds84182> Vexatos, vifino:
It was already fucked up for the last year, the top screen doesn't
work
L656[14:14:09] <ds84182> but now it
doesn't boot
L657[14:14:25] <ds84182> My life is just a
comedy of failures.
L658[14:14:28] <vifino> :(
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L661[14:18:22] <vifino> :D
L662[14:18:26] *
Temia claps. Very nice> :D
L663[14:18:32] <dangranos> oh god
L664[14:18:42] <dangranos> now you can
waste time while you're wasting time
L665[14:19:09] <Temia> Hmm.
L666[14:19:38] <Temia> Thought -- what if
face-down cards hidden behind others were marked by thick or
doubled borders?
L667[14:19:50] <Temia> Along the top edge,
anyway
L668[14:21:45] <Kodos> gamax92,
gimme
L670[14:25:13] <Temia> Hmm. Not as
distinct as I aws hoping D:
L671[14:27:21] <gamax92> also note that
I'll be adding color to this, seeing as the minimal design for this
is a T2 screen
L672[14:31:26] <gamax92> Temia: whadda
think, keep thick lines or not, double's sorta not an option as it
lacks the character I need
L673[14:32:29] <Temia> Hmm. Colour would
probably improve clarity a lot, especially on thicker lines since
thinner would be less apparent depending on colour choice.
L674[14:34:46] <gamax92> oh hmm issue, not
all cards behind other ones are hidden, how would you see the card
underneath?
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L676[14:37:47] <meigrafd> hm is OCEmu for
everyone? :p
L677[14:38:23] <meigrafd> nm, got it
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L690[15:39:06] <Lizzy> #p
L691[15:39:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1.325281544 Seconds passed.
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L698[15:46:27] <ds84182> I need to buy a
new camera module, a new screen, and a new speaker module for my
3DS
L699[15:46:42] <ds84182> And even after
that, I think my bottom part is fucked up, I can't even open
it
L700[15:47:19] <ds84182> So, rather than
do all of that, I am going to purchase another 3DS
L701[15:47:52] <Malum> Hi, When i copy the
folder minecraft server folder from on PC to another the ingame
tier 1 pc tells me this "out of memory", when copying all
of it back, it works perfekt. The server is of course not
running.
L702[15:48:15] <Malum> is this a java
problem?
L703[15:48:18] <ds84182> Are the configs
the same?
L704[15:48:39] <ds84182> Are they both
running the same version of OpenComputers?
L705[15:48:40] <Kodos> Do both computers
have the same amount of memory
L706[15:49:51] <Malum> ds84182 yes, and
yes. Its the entire minecraft server folder
L707[15:50:18] <Malum> Kodos, do you mean
the real life computer or ingame?
L708[15:50:25] <ds84182> Thats
strange...
L709[15:50:30] <Kodos> I may just be
confused
L710[15:50:35] <Kodos> I should probably
eat
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L712[15:51:15] <Malum> this is actually
confusing to explaine :D
L713[15:51:30] <Kodos> Yes, but the fact
that I'm absolutely starving probably isn't helping lol
L714[15:51:35] <ds84182> Malum: How
different are the two real computers, hardware and software
wise?
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L716[15:52:00] <Malum> Kodos: lol
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L718[15:52:57] <Malum> ds84182: both are
running Windows 10 - 64 bit, but the hardware is like........black
and white different
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L720[15:53:46] <Malum> 3-4 years
difference in hardware
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L722[15:54:00] <ds84182> Hmm... Are they
running the same versions of Java?
L723[15:54:06] <Malum> yes
L724[15:54:26] <Malum> first thing on my
troubleshooting list
L725[15:54:33] <ds84182> Did you try
deleting all the computer states from the saves folder?
L726[15:54:51] <ds84182> That's pretty
much the last thing I would try
L727[15:55:11] <Malum> yes :(
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L729[15:55:42] <ds84182> Malum: Try
building a completely new computer, see if that does anything
different
L730[15:55:52] <Malum> i will do
that
L731[15:56:07] <ds84182> Ingame, of course
:P
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L733[15:56:24] <Malum> lol yes :D
L734[15:58:18] <Malum> When it did
shutdown the server, the ingame computer was running, maybe i have
to shutdown the ingame computer before i shutdown the server, and
do the copy
L735[15:58:45] <ds84182> Well, deleting
the states folder should shut them down also
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L737[16:00:43] <Malum> i'll try doing all
the things you suggested again. thx for the help
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L744[16:55:57] <montana> get the NBT data
about the currently selected robot slot?
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L748[17:28:26] <v^> montana, no
L750[17:28:54] <gamax92> ERROR 004
L751[17:37:11] <ds84182> ERROR 040
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L753[17:50:51] <Temia> This server has
been jammed -- HTTP 555 Error
L754[17:51:04] <Daiyousei> COME ON AND
SLAM
L755[17:51:06] <Daiyousei> AND WELCOME TO
THE JAM
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L762[18:29:22] <gamax92> Trump seems to
retweet random people's support of him
L763[18:29:33] <gamax92> What if you make
a fake support, get him to RT it, and then change it to be an
insult
L764[18:35:03] <vifino> You can edit a
tweet?
L765[18:35:05] <vifino> TIL.
L766[18:35:14] <gamax92> ... can you
not?
L767[18:35:20] <gamax92> I don't
twitter
L768[18:35:20] <Mimiru> No
L769[18:35:31] <gamax92> dammit
L770[18:35:42] <Mimiru> You have to delete
and repost
L771[18:35:59] <vifino> brb, gonna grab
moar glorious cake!
L772[18:36:09] <vifino>
omnomnombirthdaycakeomnomnom
L773[18:40:34] <vifino> back
L774[18:40:40] <vifino> Archivement get:
Cake.
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L779[19:02:16] <ds84182> s/THE
JAM/JAPAN
L780[19:02:16] <Kibibyte>
<Daiyousei> AND WELCOME TO JAPAN
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L782[19:14:11] <vifino> s/JAPAN/ZHE
PAN/
L783[19:14:11] <Kibibyte>
<Daiyousei> AND WELCOME TO ZHE PAN
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L785[19:24:27] <Ivo> What's the difference
between managed and unmanaged disks?
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L809[20:56:59] <Kodos> Achievement get:
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L810[21:14:58] <Stary2001> yay
L811[21:15:00] <Stary2001> fun
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L820[22:29:52] <pythonxz> Hi all
L821[22:30:06] <pythonxz> Dude!
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L823[22:30:43] <Theorem> interesting
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L825[22:30:50] <pythonxz> hi again
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