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L2[00:00:59] <ocdoc> Everything's cool
L3[00:10:18] <dangranos|sleep> hi
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L5[00:29:41] <gamax92> Mimiru: weee http://i.imgur.com/Iz97Jad.png
L6[00:30:09] <Mimiru> gamax92, very nice
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L10[01:36:37] <dangranos> gamax92, wai what is that?
L11[01:36:46] <dangranos> it's awesome :O
L12[01:36:57] * dangranos now wants vim
L13[01:38:18] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-06-14_01-38-06.png \o/
L14[01:38:27] <Mimiru> Still need to retexture the MagCard
L15[01:38:33] <Mimiru> reader*
L16[01:40:05] <dangranos> gamax92, where do i get that nano?
L17[01:40:25] <dangranos> Mimiru, isnt that from some mod with magcards?
L18[01:40:34] <dangranos> texture i mean
L19[01:40:40] <Mimiru> The texture is, yes, from Immibis
L20[01:40:49] <Mimiru> I just needed something... :P
L21[01:41:12] <dangranos> New drama "OC addon developer uses textures from CC addon!"
L22[01:42:02] <Mimiru> Left to right in that image, Alarm block, Card Writer (RFID and MagStrip) RFID Reader, and MagStrip reader
L23[01:42:52] <Mimiru> Also in my hot bar is the RFID Reader Card for Tablets/Computers, and a pair of RFIDs
L24[01:42:52] <dangranos> they look so.. borderless
L25[01:42:56] <dangranos> for a machine
L26[01:43:15] <Mimiru> the writer has a border. http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-06-14_01-43-06.png
L27[01:43:17] <Izaya> Mimiru: eurrr, different-res textures
L28[01:43:26] <dangranos> ^ also that
L29[01:43:37] <Mimiru> the 3 I've textured are all 64x.
L30[01:43:41] <Mimiru> :P
L31[01:43:48] * Izaya uses Painterly if he uses a texture pack
L32[01:44:19] <Mimiru> I am NOT a texture artist, and fuck trying to make shit look good at 16x.
L33[01:44:39] <dangranos> Krutoy242, you could write something to replace #defined things at load
L34[01:44:40] <Izaya> I think I'll just steal immibis's textures
L35[01:45:03] <Mimiru> Izaya, good luck with that, :P
L36[01:45:19] <dangranos> Krutoy242, you can easily hack program loading in OpenOS
L37[01:45:24] <Izaya> I'll make a resource pack patch
L38[01:45:26] <Mimiru> since his writer is a model the textures won't work for it.
L39[01:46:10] <Izaya> ._. seriously?
L40[01:46:12] <Mimiru> Yes.
L41[01:46:16] <dangranos> Mimiru, will your writer have something like his lights?
L42[01:46:23] <gamax92> dangranos: it's on oppm
L43[01:46:38] <Mimiru> dangranos, probably not.
L44[01:46:44] <dangranos> !oprg
L45[01:46:48] <dangranos> uh
L46[01:47:03] <Krutoy242> dangranos, right, but i want it in my code editor. I have linter.
L47[01:47:07] <Temia> Do you plan on making Smart RFID cards that can execute code like a microprocessor while near a reader?
L48[01:47:16] <Mimiru> No
L49[01:47:19] <Temia> Awww.
L50[01:47:43] <Mimiru> RFIDs can hold 64 characters, GLHF writing any code on that :P
L51[01:47:52] <Mimiru> any meaningful*
L52[01:48:01] <gamax92> Temia!
L53[01:48:03] <dangranos> code that loads a file from net?
L54[01:48:06] <Temia> Well, smart RFID cards would probably have a normal EEPROM's size along with the 256 byte data portion.
L55[01:48:09] <Mimiru> Also, fuck trying to keep state and "execute code"
L56[01:48:20] <Temia> Keeping state is not part of the deal.
L57[01:48:27] <Temia> It starts from stage 1 every time it gets near a reader.
L58[01:48:42] <Mimiru> if you want to add it.. PR it.
L59[01:48:46] <Mimiru> I have no plans to do so.
L60[01:48:46] <Temia> Just like most any RFID smart card. >.>
L61[01:48:49] <Temia> Well, alright.
L62[01:48:56] <Temia> That is only fair.
L63[01:48:57] <Izaya> Mimiru: Is it a cube model?
L64[01:48:59] <dangranos> iirc there was baubles computer
L65[01:49:01] <dangranos> *s
L66[01:49:06] <Mimiru> Izaya?
L67[01:49:23] <Izaya> the writer
L68[01:49:27] <dangranos> Mimiru, he is about immibis's stripewriter
L69[01:49:29] <Izaya> is it just a cube that is a model?
L70[01:49:33] <Mimiru> His? it's cubeish.... but it animates.
L71[01:49:51] <dangranos> .oprg
L72[01:49:57] <dangranos> .-.
L73[01:50:13] <Mimiru> htffs
L74[01:50:13] <Mimiru> http://openprograms.github.io/
L75[01:50:19] <gamax92> Dan what are you doing?
L76[01:50:39] <dangranos> could you poke openprograms list to update?
L77[01:51:36] <gamax92> Why, you just oppm install nano
L78[01:51:51] <dangranos> i know but..
L79[01:53:06] <Krutoy242> gamax92, help me with pattern please. I need "all text from frist letter A to last letter A". Is "A.-A" will be fine?
L80[01:53:44] <gamax92> No
L81[01:54:07] <Izaya> why would you want nano
L82[01:54:13] <gamax92> It's A+ or A*
L83[01:54:23] <Izaya> nano has none of the features of vim or emacs
L84[01:54:26] <Izaya> but all the downsides
L85[01:54:29] <dangranos> gamax92, nooo, not that
L86[01:54:47] <dangranos> he meant something like AsometextA
L87[01:54:49] <dangranos> hm
L88[01:55:00] <dangranos> "A[^A]+A"
L89[01:55:04] <gamax92> Oh
L90[01:55:05] <Krutoy242> dangranos, Yes, this.
L91[01:55:32] <gamax92> Also izaya shut the fuck up
L92[01:55:34] <dangranos> that should match anything that has A on it's sides
L93[01:55:55] <dangranos> though i will match ANY character except a between A
L94[01:55:57] <gamax92> Nobody needs your worthless commentary
L95[01:56:00] <Krutoy242> dangranos, ok, thanks! Will try...
L96[01:56:23] <dangranos> and it could break if you have something like AsomeAtextA
L97[01:56:38] <dangranos> s/break/do something unexpected"
L98[01:56:38] <Kibibyte> <dangranos> and it could do something unexpected" if you have something like AsomeAtextA
L99[01:57:18] <Krutoy242> I need expected result! Even "A" should be matched.
L100[01:57:20] <dangranos> but i think it'll match first AA
L101[01:57:52] <dangranos> so you search for maximal AA limited text?
L102[01:58:07] <gamax92> Izaya: if you want vim or emacs write it your damned self
L103[01:58:32] <dangranos> Krutoy242, why do you need it btw?
L104[01:58:57] <Krutoy242> dangranos, yes, i need block of text between A letters, or A itself. I need this for GUI layouts.
L105[01:59:33] <dangranos> what can be between them?
L106[01:59:44] <dangranos> A.*A should work
L107[01:59:44] <Krutoy242> anything, including A itself
L108[01:59:58] <Krutoy242> A.*A not work with "A"
L109[02:00:04] <dangranos> :|
L110[02:00:19] <dangranos> you didnt said that this is a possible case
L111[02:01:04] <Krutoy242> I need this: find("text A text", "[...]") --> 6 , 6
L112[02:02:23] <Krutoy242> And: find("A text A text A", "[...]") --> 1, 15
L113[02:02:29] <dangranos> A.*A?
L114[02:02:50] <dangranos> wai
L115[02:04:13] <dangranos> ugh
L116[02:05:11] <Krutoy242> No, A.*A didnt work http://ideone.com/Ey8Mqh
L117[02:05:14] <dangranos> so, it should match only A if there is one A and biggest AA limited block if there is more than one
L118[02:05:28] <Krutoy242> Exactly
L119[02:06:53] <Krutoy242> How to color text in IRC ?
L120[02:07:00] <Krutoy242> And bold it?
L121[02:07:48] <dangranos> ctrl+b
L122[02:08:03] <dangranos> oh, not in webchat..
L123[02:23:22] <Sandra> so cool.
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L126[02:24:59] <Mimiru> yay I added recipes...
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L136[03:08:51] <Shuudoushi> does anyone know what is really calling for programs named "autorun" to be launched at boot?
L137[03:09:11] <Vexatos> autorun.lua
L138[03:09:13] <Vexatos> not autorun
L139[03:09:14] <Vexatos> IIRC
L140[03:09:54] <Shuudoushi> it works either way...
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L142[03:10:14] <Shuudoushi> I remember finding it one day, but I forgot where I found it...
L143[03:15:02] <Shuudoushi> found it!
L144[03:15:16] <Shuudoushi> 90_filesyste,lua in /boot
L145[03:15:25] <Shuudoushi> ...
L146[03:15:31] <Shuudoushi> over look the typos >.>
L147[03:15:47] <Shuudoushi> looks like you can even do .autorun
L148[03:15:55] <Shuudoushi> I did not know that
L149[03:16:11] <Mimiru> s/,/\./
L150[03:16:11] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> 90_filesyste.lua in /boot
L151[03:16:13] <Mimiru> :P
L152[03:16:21] <Shuudoushi> lol
L153[03:16:39] <Shuudoushi> s/filesyste/filesystem
L154[03:16:39] <Kibibyte> <Shuudoushi> 90_filesystem.lua in /boot
L155[03:17:19] <Shuudoushi> good news everyone
L156[03:17:31] <Mimiru> You invented the finglonger?
L157[03:17:37] <Shuudoushi> I don't have to edit the init.lua nearly as much as i though :D
L158[03:17:50] <Shuudoushi> that's old news!
L159[03:17:54] <Mimiru> http://futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Fing-Longer ftfw.
L160[03:19:23] <Shuudoushi> XD
L161[03:20:51] <Shuudoushi> bad news though...
L162[03:21:56] <Shuudoushi> I know I can interrupt autorun, or even prevent it from launching, but I have no idea how to get it to run once my login script is done other than by calling it from my login script...
L163[03:23:03] <dangranos> how do i terminate programs in that "plan9k" OS? .-.
L164[03:24:17] <Vexatos> Kubuxu ^
L165[03:24:38] <Kubuxu> dangranos, I have no idea.
L166[03:24:48] <Kubuxu> It is very early alpha.
L167[03:24:55] <Shuudoushi> you bash your fac really hard into your keyboard, then you pull the hdd out of the computer and thro it into lava
L168[03:25:25] <Vexatos> dangranos, I know
L169[03:25:28] <Vexatos> go to the case GUI
L170[03:25:33] <Vexatos> and press that one button
L171[03:25:41] <Shuudoushi> XD
L172[03:25:43] <dangranos> except that one -_-
L173[03:25:48] <Shuudoushi> that'll do it!
L174[03:25:49] <Kubuxu> an\I though Ctrl C worked.
L175[03:27:16] <Shuudoushi> well... that test was a fail...
L176[03:30:43] <dangranos> what os.time returns?
L177[03:31:43] <Mimiru> os.time has been reimplemented to return the ingame time since the world has been created.
L178[03:31:43] <Mimiru> Note that this time is in “in-game seconds”. To get the number of game ticks since the world was created, multiply it with 1000/60/60 (since there are 24000 ticks in a day) and subtract 6000. This offset of 6000 is not arbitrary, it ensures that 6 o'clock AM is actually that. Minecraft somehow thinks six o'clock in the morning is zero - probably because that's “when” a new game starts…
L179[03:31:47] <Shuudoushi> minutes I think
L180[03:32:35] <dangranos> mc seconds?
L181[03:32:51] <Shuudoushi> 1/24 a second
L182[03:32:57] <Vexatos> wat
L183[03:33:03] <Vexatos> No
L184[03:33:08] <Vexatos> or maybe
L185[03:33:10] <Vexatos> hmmm
L186[03:33:12] <Vexatos> fish?
L187[03:33:15] <Shuudoushi> wrong window...
L188[03:33:27] <Shuudoushi> but a mc second is a tick
L189[03:33:33] <dangranos> "1 second 0.27 0.0138 seconds"
L190[03:33:40] <dangranos> 0.27 ticks
L191[03:33:56] <Shuudoushi> eh
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L193[03:36:44] <dangranos> yep, looks like a mc seconds
L194[03:39:43] <dangranos> just grabbed someone's program to test sleeps (for cc) and remade it for OC
L195[03:42:49] <dangranos> huh
L196[03:43:59] <dangranos> sleeping 5 times for 0.7 and for 0.75 is nearly equal .-.
L197[03:46:49] <dangranos> http://i.imgur.com/eluvvBd.png .-.
L198[03:47:45] <dangranos> tmp.lua - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uXLuFxAE
L199[03:52:09] <Shuudoushi> ...
L200[03:52:16] <Shuudoushi> this is just odd..
L201[03:53:01] <Shuudoushi> I can get 90_filesystem.lua to run my login script before it runs any autoruns, but it runs my login script twice...
L202[03:53:22] <dangranos> why?
L203[03:53:39] <Shuudoushi> why is runninh twice? not a fucking clue
L204[03:53:44] <Shuudoushi> running*
L205[03:54:32] <Shuudoushi> I guess it really doesn't like shit getting shoe horned in...
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L207[03:57:59] <Mimiru> hey gamax92... http://jenkins.pc-logix.com/job/MassSound/ :P
L208[03:58:23] <dangranos> "KerbalEdu"
L209[03:58:25] <dangranos> oh god
L210[03:58:34] <dangranos> that's just >_<
L211[03:58:41] <Shuudoushi> XD
L212[03:59:06] <Shuudoushi> you have to teach kerbals the proper way to be forever lost in space or shot into the sun :D
L213[03:59:12] <dangranos> http://minecraftedu.com/news
L214[03:59:19] <dangranos> scroll a little down
L215[03:59:45] <Mimiru> ComputerCraftEdu works in stock Forge btw. lol
L216[04:00:08] <dangranos> hm?
L217[04:00:32] <Mimiru> CCEdu runs fine in Plain MC/Forge
L218[04:00:43] <Mimiru> So you get to play with the tile based turtle programing and shit
L219[04:03:01] <Mimiru> Night
L220[04:05:45] <Shuudoushi> why is this so messed up...
L221[04:20:46] <daemon> do any of the upgrades alow you to detect blocks on the back/left/right of the robot
L222[04:20:50] <daemon> without turning
L223[04:21:44] <Shuudoushi> I'm off to bed as well, night all o/
L224[04:21:59] <daemon> nn Shuudoushi
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L230[04:42:58] <Sangar> o/
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L235[04:54:54] <daemon> if I have a list of variables, a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7
L236[04:54:57] <daemon> some may be nil
L237[04:55:11] <daemon> is there anyway I can quickly calculate the size of the set
L238[04:55:16] <daemon> some may be numbers some may be strings
L239[04:55:26] <daemon> I want the concatenated length to represent size
L240[04:55:28] <Vexatos> o/ Sangar
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L242[04:56:44] <Sangar> if some may be nil, not really, you'll have to iterate them and count manually afaik
L243[04:57:11] <daemon> balls
L244[04:57:40] <daemon> so need to abstsract some functions off to a component
L245[04:57:48] <daemon> robot script starting to look like perl web scraper engine
L246[04:57:49] <daemon> -_-"
L247[04:57:58] <Sangar> :X
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L249[05:00:15] <dangranos> daemon, what script?
L250[05:01:51] <daemon> dangranos, my bot script
L251[05:02:07] <dangranos> i understood that, but what it does?
L252[05:02:29] <daemon> mining script
L253[05:03:11] <daemon> it takes one point of reference to start x,y,z
L254[05:03:27] <daemon> one robot goes there and detects the nearest block to that point
L255[05:03:36] <daemon> every bot that mines within X range of that point
L256[05:03:45] <daemon> will detect any blocks near it highest y is always mined first
L257[05:04:07] <daemon> so far the target mine area is 1000x100x1000
L258[05:04:15] <daemon> 23 bots working
L259[05:04:39] <daemon> its dealing with the packet loss thats problematic
L260[05:05:24] <daemon> having to implement my own simple tcp
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L263[05:06:18] <Sandra> Sangar, can I expect OC to be running on NOVA at some point?
L264[05:06:41] <daemon> dangranos, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GAQ3EyM2
L265[05:06:51] <daemon> not sure what got sent
L266[05:07:28] <dangranos> >have to implement my own simple tcp
L267[05:07:31] <dangranos> heh
L268[05:08:03] <dangranos> at least it looks like web crawler :D
L269[05:08:28] <dangranos> daemon, also, i have bouncer, so i did recieved what you said
L270[05:08:44] <daemon> yeah but it was me that disconnected :)
L271[05:08:55] <dangranos> ah
L272[05:09:18] <dangranos> so, you making a p2p networking now? :D
L273[05:09:30] <Sangar> Sandra, dunno. if some brave soul takes ok that task :X the little time i have i'd kind of like to use for something other than porting :P we'll see, maybe if NOVA gets a 1.9 wrapper out fast i might look into that instead of porting to 1.9 directly ;)
L274[05:09:38] <daemon> the only p2p in OC is the linked in cards
L275[05:09:46] <daemon> might need them eventually at this rat
L276[05:09:50] <daemon> rate*
L277[05:09:59] <daemon> wireless is way to unstable
L278[05:10:05] <dangranos> daemon, what about using wireless relaying?
L279[05:10:30] <daemon> I think its just the amount of information going through
L280[05:10:32] <dangranos> it's called meshnet iirc
L281[05:10:52] <daemon> mesh would increase the bandwidth by N^s where s is the amount of bots
L282[05:10:54] <daemon> would be even worse
L283[05:11:10] <Sandra> NOVA got the 1.8 wrapper done surprisingly quickly.
L284[05:11:14] <Sandra> it was like... a day.
L285[05:11:20] <Skye> uh
L286[05:11:24] <Vexatos> Yup
L287[05:11:29] <dangranos> would it? if you wont use "broadcast trought all the network" it shouldnt do that
L288[05:11:59] <dangranos> though that would require routing (non-broadcasting way of delivering messages)
L289[05:12:08] <Sangar> huh, is it fully complete? including entities, custom armor rendering, etc?
L290[05:12:20] <daemon> yeah I know how routing works I was hoping for a simple solution hmm
L291[05:12:22] <Sandra> no.
L292[05:12:24] <daemon> a rethink is in order I think
L293[05:12:32] <Sandra> entities are in, but armor isn't.
L294[05:12:39] <dangranos> daemon, so what exatly do you write now?
L295[05:12:53] <dangranos> a networking, robot script or what?
L296[05:13:08] <daemon> dangranos, just a multibot ingelligent mining script really
L297[05:13:19] <Izaya> 'just'
L298[05:13:23] <dangranos> ^]
L299[05:13:28] <dangranos> best part of that phrase
L300[05:13:34] <daemon> the plan is that when its running properly I am going to set the x,y,z target to 10000,1000,10000
L301[05:13:38] <daemon> and never have to mine anything ever again :)
L302[05:13:55] <daemon> oddly it works
L303[05:13:56] <daemon> perfectly
L304[05:14:04] <daemon> just the fucking lossyness of wireless that is screwing it up
L305[05:14:12] <dangranos> "just a massive quarying system using ten (or hundreds) of robots
L306[05:14:24] <Izaya> will it be able to...
L307[05:14:25] <Izaya> read mail?
L308[05:14:28] <dangranos> that communicate with each other
L309[05:14:36] <daemon> dangranos, no the bots do not communicate with each other at all
L310[05:14:41] <daemon> got 1 tier 3 server as a master
L311[05:14:56] <daemon> they report position and there idle state
L312[05:14:59] <Izaya> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html
L313[05:15:05] <daemon> the server has a 3 dimensional table of 'seen' blocks
L314[05:15:12] <daemon> within the range scope that has been seen by other bots
L315[05:15:28] <dangranos> that would require tons of memory
L316[05:15:29] <daemon> blocks are assigned back to the idle bots and they report any other they see
L317[05:15:35] <daemon> dangranos, not to bad actually
L318[05:15:39] <Izaya> know what'd be freaking call?
L319[05:15:41] <Izaya> cool*
L320[05:15:47] <dangranos> Izaya, an AI?
L321[05:15:52] <daemon> Izaya, a blast freezer
L322[05:15:58] <Izaya> using a tape for long-term storage and caching the area around the robots
L323[05:16:10] <Izaya> dangranos: speaking of AIs, what's a cyb female name for an AI?
L324[05:16:11] <dangranos> Izaya, so, tape-mem?
L325[05:16:21] <daemon> Izaya, yeah at the moment I have a script that cycles N,E,S,W (bot facing)
L326[05:16:21] * dangranos shrugs
L327[05:16:24] <Izaya> dangranos: sort of, but with caching
L328[05:16:24] <daemon> and does robot.detect()
L329[05:16:32] <daemon> could really do with a better detection system
L330[05:16:39] <daemon> or some way to detect on left/back/right of the bots
L331[05:16:58] <dangranos> Izaya, that would require lua types to raw data serialization
L332[05:17:10] <dangranos> and some kind of storage specification
L333[05:17:16] <Izaya> just pre-designate areas
L334[05:17:36] <Izaya> so the first 1k bytes are row 1 of layer 1
L335[05:17:47] <daemon> we have a serialization function in text I think ... could use an internet card on the head router and get it to connecto a custom simple service on the outside world
L336[05:17:54] <Izaya> second 1k bytes is row 2 of layer 1 etc.
L337[05:18:25] <Izaya> #lua 10000*256*10000
L338[05:18:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 25600000000
L339[05:18:32] <dangranos> sec
L340[05:18:38] <Izaya> #lua (10000*256*10000)/1024
L341[05:18:38] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 25000000
L342[05:18:44] <Izaya> #lua (10000*256*10000)/1024/1024
L343[05:18:44] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 24414.0625
L344[05:18:49] <Izaya> #lua (10000*256*10000)/1024/1024/1024
L345[05:18:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 23.841857910156
L346[05:18:50] <Lizzy> daemon, serialization.serialize (spelt correctly of course)
L347[05:19:00] <Izaya> that scheme would require 24 gigabytes
L348[05:19:14] <daemon> Izaya, it only records blocks that are present
L349[05:19:15] <Izaya> perhaps make it run with each bit as a block?
L350[05:19:22] <Izaya> #lua (10000*256*10000)/1024/1024/1024/8
L351[05:19:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2.9802322387695
L352[05:19:22] <daemon> and as you cannot see a block that is under neath another one :0
L353[05:19:26] <Izaya> so 3 GB
L354[05:19:37] <Izaya> daemon: I'm talking about preallocation
L355[05:19:40] <daemon> ah
L356[05:19:50] <dangranos> 1 minute on tape is 240 KiB
L357[05:20:20] <Izaya> so let's try a smaller area - (64*256*64)/8
L358[05:20:27] <dangranos> #lua 25600000000/240*1024
L359[05:20:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 109226666666.67
L360[05:20:31] <dangranos> #lua 25600000000/240/1024
L361[05:20:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 104166.66666667
L362[05:20:31] <Izaya> #lua (64*256*64)/8
L363[05:20:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 131072
L364[05:20:36] <dangranos> uh
L365[05:20:41] <dangranos> which is which?
L366[05:20:42] <Izaya> #lua (64*256*64)/8/1024
L367[05:20:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 128
L368[05:20:46] * Sandra kinda wants to disable all hard disks and floppy disks, and have the only storage available be EEPROMs and tapes
L369[05:20:58] <dangranos> Sandra, make a tapefs
L370[05:21:04] <Sandra> heh.
L371[05:21:06] <dangranos> a working one
L372[05:21:07] <Izaya> 128KiB for a 64x64 area
L373[05:21:10] <Izaya> not too bad
L374[05:21:12] <daemon> Sandra, be even more kinky, allow making PXE eeprom, network boot :)
L375[05:21:13] * dangranos has draft of one
L376[05:21:21] <Izaya> dangranos: and make it run in 4KiB of code?
L377[05:21:23] <dangranos> daemon, pfff
L378[05:21:41] <daemon> dangranos, you not like network boot (0_o)?
L379[05:21:42] <Sandra> 4KiB isn't a small amount tbh.
L380[05:21:47] <Izaya> write it outside of game, let you enter code into memory, then run it
L381[05:21:53] <dangranos> Izaya, impossible, but you could grab code from somewhere else
L382[05:22:01] <Izaya> you could bootstrap something that way
L383[05:22:07] <Izaya> then just keep it always running
L384[05:22:33] <Lizzy> with the netboot, you have a small script to get the initial startup files, put them in /tmp and then run them to get the rest
L385[05:22:55] <Lizzy> s/small script/EEPROM
L386[05:22:55] <Kibibyte> <Lizzy> with the netboot, you have a EEPROM to get the initial startup files, put them in /tmp and then run them to get the rest
L387[05:22:59] <Izaya> I want a config option to turn HDDs into simpler devices - have x tracks, and you can read 1 track at a time
L388[05:23:13] <dangranos> /tmp is OP
L389[05:23:21] <Izaya> dangranos: I can run amie from /tmp
L390[05:23:22] <dangranos> Izaya, poke sangar
L391[05:23:24] <Izaya> not that amie runs
L392[05:23:38] <dangranos> iirc there was already something about RAW hdds
L393[05:23:55] <dangranos> sangar said "use Computronics"
L394[05:23:59] <dangranos> iirc
L395[05:24:09] <Sangar> pretty much, yeah :P
L396[05:24:29] <Izaya> Maybe I could write a fake component
L397[05:24:35] <Izaya> allows reading 'tracks' from tapes
L398[05:25:37] <Izaya> you could cache it
L399[05:25:39] <Izaya> that'd be cool
L400[05:25:48] <Izaya> cache the current track
L401[05:25:55] <Izaya> allow reading to not take ages
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L406[05:31:54] <dangranos> huh
L407[05:32:03] <dangranos> ext was read-only FS?
L408[05:32:16] <Vexatos> Shuudoushi, nice one
L409[05:32:22] <Vexatos> AHAHAHAHA
L410[05:32:24] <Vexatos> This is awesome
L411[05:32:37] <Shuudoushi> ?
L412[05:32:39] <Vexatos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1043#issuecomment-111810808
L413[05:32:41] <Vexatos> so great
L414[05:32:42] <dangranos> *write-once
L415[05:32:53] <Shuudoushi> ah lol
L416[05:33:33] <Vexatos> It really feels like you didn't read the labels to your right >_>
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L418[05:33:52] <dangranos> Shuudoushi, that isse is collection of people who wanted to be sarcastic about the theme or who didnt understtood that this is a joke
L419[05:34:02] <Shuudoushi> ah
L420[05:34:03] <Vexatos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3Aserious-business+ should tell enough
L421[05:34:15] <Shuudoushi> I see the blue label now >.>
L422[05:34:29] <Vexatos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1037 still too good
L423[05:34:30] <Shuudoushi> TOO MANY lABELS!!!
L424[05:34:51] <Vexatos> Shuudoushi, too many labels? https://github.com/Vexatos/Flamingo/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue
L425[05:35:54] <dangranos> so, i guess every "must be more complex" issues should be linked to Issue 1043?
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L427[05:36:06] <Shuudoushi> lol
L428[05:36:28] <Inari> TML
L429[05:36:48] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: did lizzy pass this off to you? https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1134
L430[05:37:04] <Inari> why does everyone complain about microcrafting anyway
L431[05:37:36] <Inari> OC doesnt involve any crafting past making a robot :<
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L433[05:38:01] <Vexatos> Inari, people just see "OC has more steps than CC"
L434[05:38:09] <Sangar> Shuudoushi, uhhh, i can't remember, i even forgot about that issue until now >_>
L435[05:38:12] <Vexatos> or only remember the hardmode recipes
L436[05:38:17] <dangranos> Sangar, DO IT
L437[05:38:22] <Vexatos> which were default like 1.5 years ago
L438[05:38:24] <Inari> also lets ask the right question
L439[05:38:34] <Inari> why is microcrafting uninteresting to many? cause its uninvolved and boring
L440[05:38:38] <Inari> make crafting worthwhile the time
L441[05:38:51] <Shuudoushi> yeah, I remember talking to lizzy about it awhile back, she more or less said that she was too lazy to do it XD
L442[05:38:53] <dangranos> like what?
L443[05:39:02] <dangranos> microcrafting + thaumcraft = epic win
L444[05:39:09] <Lizzy> what now?
L445[05:39:12] <Lizzy> oh, that
L446[05:39:18] <Inari> like making actual cricuit boards instead of generalized ones :p
L447[05:39:22] <Izaya> may I suggest something about microcrafting?
L448[05:39:31] <dangranos> Inari, uh...
L449[05:39:31] <Shuudoushi> may as well
L450[05:39:36] <Izaya> make it so you can upgrade stuff
L451[05:39:46] <Lizzy> Yeah, i do want to have a crack at it. i just can't find the motivation to do so
L452[05:39:57] <dangranos> Inari, as in "make a circuit for X" minigame?
L453[05:39:57] <Vexatos> I like macrocrafting, like Factorization does
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L455[05:40:01] <Shuudoushi> i.e. your lazy lol
L456[05:40:02] <Izaya> ie to make a T2 case you can build from scratch or you can upgrade a T1
L457[05:40:12] <Inari> dangranos: as in, make a circuit, a computer wil be a combination of variosu circuits
L458[05:40:13] <Vexatos> Izaya, enable hardmode recipes
L459[05:40:14] <Vexatos> done
L460[05:40:18] <dangranos> oh yeah
L461[05:40:22] <Inari> though
L462[05:40:22] <dangranos> upgrading would be awesome
L463[05:40:30] <Inari> it may be hard to have the current lua system workw tih that :P
L464[05:40:30] <Vexatos> Just enable hardmode recipes
L465[05:40:31] <Vexatos> please
L466[05:40:33] <Inari> would need a more static system
L467[05:40:41] <Vexatos> asghileyrlgsht
L468[05:40:47] <Vexatos> JUST CHECK THE HARDMODE RECIPES
L469[05:40:52] <Shuudoushi> XD
L470[05:40:52] <dangranos> because when upgrade to T2 from T1 (or T3 from T2) i get a lot of unused low-tier things
L471[05:40:55] <Lizzy> Shuudoushi: i'm lazy in a load of other aspects. I also don't know Java that well so that's another reason why i'm not attempting it
L472[05:40:57] <Vexatos> dangranos
L473[05:40:59] <Vexatos> Check
L474[05:41:00] <Vexatos> Hardmode
L475[05:41:01] <Vexatos> recipes
L476[05:41:08] <Vexatos> ;_;
L477[05:41:08] <dangranos> um
L478[05:41:12] <Shuudoushi> Lizzy: I'm just messing with ya lol
L479[05:41:19] * Lizzy wonders if this pc has a jdk installed
L480[05:41:24] <dangranos> i know that, but i wanted like "craft it or upgrade"
L481[05:41:27] * Izaya considers learning Java to make a 'shit I can make' block
L482[05:41:28] <dangranos> not "upgrade only"
L483[05:41:31] <Sangar> yeah, upgrading was the original thing, pretty much, but that obviously involved even deeper crafting trees, which is what everyone got so upset about in the first place :X
L484[05:41:31] <Inari> aösdfkjlfjklasfökljsklfjösd7jaklöf
L485[05:41:32] <Vexatos> dangranos, then enable hardmode recipes
L486[05:41:36] <Vexatos> and do not disable the normal ones
L487[05:41:38] <Vexatos> then you have both
L488[05:41:40] <Vexatos> ==win
L489[05:41:55] <Vexatos> That's how Sangar's recipe system works
L490[05:42:03] <Sangar> waitwhat
L491[05:42:09] <Shuudoushi> XD
L492[05:42:11] <dangranos> i can do that?
L493[05:42:14] <Vexatos> Or does it override?
L494[05:42:17] <Sangar> it overrides
L495[05:42:21] <Vexatos> Meh
L496[05:42:24] <Shuudoushi> pretty damn sure it overrides XD
L497[05:42:24] <dangranos> #blamesangar
L498[05:42:25] <Inari> vexofail
L499[05:42:32] <Shuudoushi> XD
L500[05:42:44] <Shuudoushi> poor vex
L501[05:42:46] <Vexatos> This is vexing
L502[05:42:54] <Inari> vexo is a vixen~
L503[05:42:55] <Sangar> badum-tish
L504[05:43:07] <Vexatos> Sangar, you're doing it wrong
L505[05:43:09] <Vexatos> we're on the internet
L506[05:43:10] <dangranos> so
L507[05:43:12] <Vexatos> It has to be http://badum-tish.com/
L508[05:43:17] <Shuudoushi> XD
L509[05:43:23] <Sangar> pft
L510[05:43:32] <Inari> psh
L511[05:43:36] <Inari> at least make a .tish TLD and use that
L512[05:43:39] <dangranos> ew
L513[05:43:44] <dangranos> flash
L514[05:44:11] <Sangar> badum-tish.sucks :X
L515[05:44:15] <Shuudoushi> I still can't figure out why this damn login script is launched twice when I shoe horn it into 90_filesystem.lua...
L516[05:44:46] <Inari> Shuudoushi: look at stack trace?
L517[05:44:51] <clever> i jammed my bootup scripts directly into init.lua, right before it runs the shell
L518[05:45:01] <Lizzy> .-. no brain, steam isn't source tree
L519[05:45:23] <Shuudoushi> I've been trying to get the login script to launch before any autoruns
L520[05:45:43] <Inari> Shuudoushi: debug.traceback
L521[05:45:50] <Izaya> badum-ti.sh
L522[05:45:54] <Shuudoushi> launching it from the init.lua lets the autorun fire first
L523[05:46:10] <Shuudoushi> Inari: I got it already devil woman!
L524[05:46:19] <Inari> :P
L525[05:46:32] <clever> Shuudoushi: i think it depends on where in init.lua you insert it, since that covers nearly the entire bootup process
L526[05:46:49] <Shuudoushi> not a single fucking clue on how to properly use any of the debug shit though...
L527[05:47:22] <clever> Shuudoushi: i just spam this wherever i want info, print(debug.traceback())
L528[05:48:27] <Shuudoushi> clever: I'll try shoehorning my login script launch before the boot scripts
L529[05:48:59] <dangranos> >_<
L530[05:49:07] <clever> just be aware, some of those boots scripts do stuff that you may depend on
L531[05:49:15] <clever> maybe make your own boot script numbered correctly?
L532[05:49:15] <dangranos> "Some popular songs in 8-bit stylization"
L533[05:49:25] <dangranos> >stylization<
L534[05:49:38] <Shuudoushi> I've mostly just been trying to stay away from modifing init.lua as much as possible, that way if I fuck something up, it's easier to recover from
L535[05:50:10] <dangranos> Shuudoushi, use custom eeprom
L536[05:50:15] <Shuudoushi> fuck that
L537[05:50:19] <dangranos> so you can load from another init
L538[05:50:26] <dangranos> like init.lua.bck
L539[05:50:35] <Shuudoushi> that's the number one thing I don't want to mess with
L540[05:50:42] <dangranos> there is titan bios
L541[05:51:09] <Shuudoushi> I don't want to mess with the bios unless it's 1000% required
L542[05:51:09] <dangranos> and you can specify custom load path in it
L543[05:51:33] <Shuudoushi> I've been working on a drop-in OS type thing
L544[05:51:36] <dangranos> Shuudoushi, use some relesed bios that works?
L545[05:51:41] <Negi> Shuudoushi: In case of problems you can keep a backup EEPROM and the OpenOS floppy to fix shit, if you have .bak files.
L546[05:51:59] <dangranos> Negi, wat?
L547[05:52:09] <Shuudoushi> it's wiping the raid that I'm using that gives issue
L548[05:52:28] <dangranos> tar archivation?
L549[05:52:29] <Shuudoushi> I want to keep the abandoned files to a minimum
L550[05:53:03] <Negi> dangranos: If there's a problem with being afraid of breaking things, then you backup the things you edit, and keep that backup for later booting.
L551[05:53:18] <dangranos> Negi, i know that, but why ".bak files"?
L552[05:53:21] <Shuudoushi> I've been developing this thing on a friends server, so abandoned files/folders can become an issue
L553[05:53:26] <dangranos> it could be .bck files :P
L554[05:53:59] <Izaya> why not .backup?
L555[05:54:05] <Shuudoushi> ...
L556[05:54:07] <Izaya> This isn't the world of DOS, after all
L557[05:54:09] <dangranos> backup.tar
L558[05:54:13] <Izaya> oh wait
L559[05:54:18] <dangranos> backup_tar
L560[05:54:49] <Shuudoushi> yeah, OC seems to have a shit fit when you try to edit or run .tar files
L561[05:54:54] <Izaya> backup_tar.tar.bck.backup
L562[05:55:10] * Shuudoushi slaps Izaya with a cod.
L563[05:55:10] * EnderBot2 laughs
L564[05:55:37] * Izaya hits Shuudoushi with a cooked barramundi
L565[05:55:56] * Shuudoushi slaps Izaya with hammer.
L566[05:55:56] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L567[05:56:04] <Negi> Izaya: Because we don't want to have things such as .sublime_package :v
L568[05:56:09] * Shuudoushi gives EnderBot2 a cookie.
L569[05:56:12] * Izaya drops a Mac Pro on Shuudoushi
L570[05:56:19] <Izaya> the old ones
L571[05:56:20] <dangranos> Izaya, "/mnt/data/win7_backup/windowsxp/old_c/dos"
L572[05:56:27] <Izaya> the big, heavy ones
L573[05:56:39] <dangranos> Mac ][? :D
L574[05:56:52] <Shuudoushi> I do still have an IBM 5m HDD laying around
L575[05:57:03] <Izaya> dangranos: you have your copy of DOS backed up on the same drive as your W7?
L576[05:57:10] <dangranos> Izaya, nope
L577[05:57:13] <Shuudoushi> fucking thing weights over 80kg
L578[05:57:19] <dangranos> never had dos installed on real machine
L579[05:57:35] <dangranos> and xp is stored on another drive that is somewhere on the shelf
L580[05:57:39] <dangranos> an IDE drife ofc
L581[05:57:48] <Izaya> C:\Windows\system32\DOS\system16\CP-M\system8
L582[05:58:03] <Sandra> my goto "I'm bored" thing is to go watch extra credits. :|
L583[05:58:09] <dangranos> Izaya, path of stealing?
L584[05:58:19] <Izaya> C:\Windows\system32\DOS\system16\CP-M\system8\RSX-8\system12 *
L585[05:58:29] <dangranos> there should be OS/2
L586[05:58:44] <dangranos> before DOS i think
L587[05:58:58] <Izaya> dangranos: no, it comes after wow64 and before system32
L588[05:59:20] <Izaya> OS/2 is more advanced than win32
L589[06:01:05] <dangranos> i wonder if there is vbox network drivers for os2
L590[06:07:33] <Shuudoushi> so line 132 of init.lua was a bad place to shoehorn the script >.> http://puu.sh/iomoi/6671caa81d.png
L591[06:11:39] <Krutoy242> Hey dangranos, look, what i just made: http://codepen.io/Krutoy242/full/waqvRZ/ Click or CTRL+Click to select char. Now i can use all characters avaliable in OC!
L592[06:13:06] <Lizzy> haha, just found compile "li.cil.oc:OpenComputers:MC1.7.10-1.4.0.7-rc.1:dev" in my build.gradle file, shows you how often i work on this mod :P
L593[06:14:05] <Shuudoushi> XD
L594[06:14:08] *** Keridos is now known as Keridos|away
L595[06:14:17] <dangranos> Krutoy242, there is utily for that in linux and win, you know?
L596[06:15:39] <dangranos> and also i cant see any char except highlighted in it's window
L597[06:15:48] <dangranos> ah
L598[06:15:53] <dangranos> it was loading..
L599[06:16:09] *** Benguin[1] is now known as Benguin[ZzZ]
L600[06:17:30] <Shuudoushi> and now my login script is just looping like crazy...
L601[06:18:45] <Shuudoushi> and it's still firing off autoruns first -_-
L602[06:22:15] <Lizzy> yay, all this code errors because some of the base forge stuff changed
L603[06:22:16] <Lizzy> woo
L604[06:22:20] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L605[06:22:50] <Lizzy> or not.... wtf idea/gradle
L606[06:23:39] <Izaya> github URLs are case-insensitive, right?
L607[06:24:27] <Lizzy> for the most part, yes
L608[06:26:28] <Krutoy242> dangranos, Nope. Im using windows and this util is dumb - i cant change tiny window size.
L609[06:26:55] <dangranos> huh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwJQxD8LLNY
L610[06:26:55] <MichiBot> dangranos: Gameboy Color extreme overclocking | length 10m 7s | Likes: 8609 Dislikes: 226 Views: 1313191 | by marcan
L611[06:27:02] <dangranos> damn you youtube suggestions
L612[06:27:30] * Izaya hrms
L613[06:27:54] <Shuudoushi> I'll figure this crap out after some sleep...
L614[06:27:57] <Shuudoushi> o/
L615[06:28:01] <Izaya> o/ mortal
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L618[06:33:36] <Lizzy> oh, seems that idea didn't re-do the gradle stuff when I updated forge
L619[06:33:58] <Sandra> Lizzy, what mod?
L620[06:34:45] *** Pwootage|Off is now known as Pwootage
L621[06:34:47] <Lizzy> Sandra, spoilers (you should be able to find it on my github, if you know where to look. It's going to impliment something that was talked about in the channel earlier)
L622[06:35:23] <Lizzy> afk, going to get a snack whilst gradle does it's stuff
L623[06:36:38] <Sandra> Technical Shenanigans....
L624[06:37:39] <Lizzy> yes
L625[06:37:48] <Lizzy> i r best namer
L626[06:37:58] <Sandra> great name tbh.
L627[06:38:08] <Lizzy> :D
L628[06:41:25] <Negi> Ah yes my favorite track, "cdda:///dev/sr0/7".
L629[06:44:20] *** Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off
L630[06:52:51] <dangranos> Negi, i wonder if there is a song with that name
L631[06:52:54] <dangranos> would be hilarious
L632[06:54:11] <Magik6k> yeeeeeess, I've finally found the most annoying bug in my network stack
L633[06:54:25] <Vexatos> Nice
L634[06:55:36] <Magik6k> internal.tcp.freeCh = #internal.tcp.channels+2 <- 2 was 1, and channel was actually allocated in place of free chanel painter
L635[06:55:41] <Magik6k> *pointer
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L637[07:03:27] <Krutoy242> Did anyone except me using c9.io IDE ?
L638[07:04:33] <daemon> is there a hard coded maximum distance for wireless reception
L639[07:04:41] <daemon> or a formulae for calculating transmission costs
L640[07:05:11] <daemon> Krutoy242, no one cares what IDE you use, the only one it concerns is yourself :P
L641[07:05:15] <dangranos> ^
L642[07:05:22] * dangranos likes vim
L643[07:05:28] <Krutoy242> Boring.
L644[07:05:38] <dangranos> what?
L645[07:05:52] * daemon likes ee(console),gedit(x11),notepad++(windows),monodevelop(x11/c#)
L646[07:06:52] * dangranos uses kate on KDE
L647[07:06:55] <dangranos> *Plasma 5
L648[07:07:24] <Magik6k> Sandra, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1219
L649[07:07:27] <Magik6k> ..
L650[07:07:33] <Magik6k> Sangar, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1219
L651[07:08:02] <dangranos> Magik6k, yay?
L652[07:08:20] <Sangar> off-by-one errors ftw
L653[07:08:22] <Negi> dangranos: If not let's make one.
L654[07:08:26] <dangranos> Sangar, yup
L655[07:08:35] <daemon> Sangar, yeah its fun that tables start at the 1st element not the 0 :P
L656[07:08:42] <dangranos> Negi, sorry what?
L657[07:08:43] <Magik6k> yeah
L658[07:09:03] <dangranos> or string.sub
L659[07:09:23] <Magik6k> And my os can now do recursive ssh :D
L660[07:09:25] <dangranos> it can cause off-by-one errors too
L661[07:10:20] <daemon> assuming lua cannot interpolate vars... is there a difference between " and '
L662[07:10:46] <dangranos> uh
L663[07:10:57] <dangranos> in code?
L664[07:11:00] <daemon> yes
L665[07:11:00] <dangranos> yup
L666[07:11:09] <daemon> what is it :)
L667[07:11:17] <dangranos> "''" will get you string containin ''
L668[07:11:24] <dangranos> and reverse
L669[07:11:24] <daemon> ah I see
L670[07:11:28] <dangranos> and combinations
L671[07:13:48] <Negi> dangranos: "dangranos | Negi, i wonder if there is a song with that name"
L672[07:14:08] <daemon> for event.pull("modem_message") .... I assume the nic's have some sort of receive buffer and when that is called it fetchs a record from the buffer, if the buffer is empty then wait. If this is so is there a way to peak into the buffer?
L673[07:14:24] <dangranos> ...
L674[07:14:29] <dangranos> i dont there is a buffer
L675[07:14:33] * dangranos pokes Sangar
L676[07:14:50] <dangranos> it will listen until getting message, right?
L677[07:15:03] <daemon> if the buffer is empty (I assume)
L678[07:15:05] <dangranos> *event
L679[07:15:19] <daemon> but I want to check if there is anything in the buffer without waiting for a signal
L680[07:15:36] <daemon> or pulling that record
L681[07:15:45] <dangranos> ...
L682[07:15:54] <daemon> seems a fair questio
L683[07:15:54] <Negi> dangranos: It buffers messages iirc. Though you can't know what awaits.
L684[07:15:59] <dangranos> why do you think there is a buffer?
L685[07:16:14] <daemon> dangranos, because when I asked if there was a buffer a few days ago I was told there was :)
L686[07:16:26] <dangranos> who?
L687[07:16:35] <daemon> not a clue
L688[07:16:36] <Negi> dangranos: The event stack is a buffer, technically.
L689[07:16:49] <dangranos> hm, wai
L690[07:17:04] <Negi> Not having a buffer would imply real-time. Not possible.
L691[07:17:12] <daemon> Negi, so if I am not running, local .... = event.pull("modem_message") anything sent to the network card will be simply put in a stack instead of lost
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L693[07:18:30] <Negi> daemon: Are you writing an OS or a BIOS ?
L694[07:18:34] <Negi> Ohwait no
L695[07:18:36] <dangranos> i am sure if there is no explicit buffer you could add it to event system, the lua side
L696[07:18:36] <Negi> Forget that
L697[07:18:37] <Sangar> dangranos, network messages are signals/events like any other, and they are queued in the machine. every time the machine resumes a pending signal is popped (via computer.pullSignal) and in openos it is distributed via the event lib, if event.pull or os.sleep is used
L698[07:19:01] <dangranos> Negi, lol
L699[07:19:12] <daemon> Sangar, perfect thank you
L700[07:19:21] <Negi> I tend to mix up between event.pull and computer.pullSignal.
L701[07:19:23] <daemon> Sangar, do you happen to have any information on how you 'lose' wireless packets
L702[07:19:31] <daemon> if I transmit 100 packets from one machine to another
L703[07:19:33] <daemon> failrate is around 3%
L704[07:20:08] <dangranos> .-.
L705[07:20:17] <Sangar> daemon, if there are solid blocks inbetween they can "cost" additional signal strength (based on their hardness). the blocks tested between two points are sampled for performance though, so sometimes stuff may come through, sometimes it may not.
L706[07:20:28] <dangranos> i dont think there is loss of packet implemented at all
L707[07:20:55] <daemon> Sangar, does packet loss effect linked cards
L708[07:20:59] <Sangar> no
L709[07:21:01] <dangranos> >_<
L710[07:21:03] <daemon> excellent
L711[07:21:04] <daemon> thank you
L712[07:21:09] <dangranos> daemon, rly?
L713[07:21:15] <daemon> dangranos, rly what? lol
L714[07:21:19] <dangranos> that's overkill
L715[07:21:40] <daemon> Sangar, oh one more question ... if one packet fails, will another packet traveling the exact same route
L716[07:21:42] <daemon> deffinetly fail
L717[07:21:46] <daemon> or is there a degree of variance
L718[07:22:00] <dangranos> "route"?
L719[07:22:06] <Sangar> wireless? it's sampled per sent packet, so it varies
L720[07:22:23] <dangranos> Sangar, wai, there IS a packet loss mechanic?
L721[07:22:26] <daemon> Sangar, yes but if I said, sent 'TEST' from A to B and it failed on the first trnasmit
L722[07:22:31] <daemon> if I repeat that test using the exact same parameters
L723[07:22:34] <daemon> will it deffinetly fail again
L724[07:22:39] <Sangar> no, it might come through
L725[07:22:45] <daemon> ah there is variance, cool
L726[07:22:48] <Sangar> dangranos, for wireless, yes. for wired sorta, when using switches
L727[07:22:59] <dangranos> sorta?
L728[07:23:04] <Sangar> and the switches queue runs full
L729[07:23:06] <Inari> linked card so op
L730[07:23:14] <daemon> Inari, give nthe price of them they really are not
L731[07:23:26] <Sangar> when the switches queue is full it'll ignore additional packets, so those are effectively dropped
L732[07:23:34] <Inari> daemon: everything teleportation is really
L733[07:23:50] <Magik6k> ~w filesystem api
L734[07:23:50] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L735[07:23:57] <dangranos> yeah, linked cards are OP
L736[07:24:05] <Inari> "ohh but it costs 300 diamonds to make!" well who cares, my minin grobot probably finds 900 over night
L737[07:24:34] <Inari> meh
L738[07:24:35] <dangranos> price? they work between dimensions and they could be at opposite ends of a mc map
L739[07:24:42] <dangranos> and i mean that "borders"
L740[07:24:44] <Inari> i still want something like MC but iwth a mmo sandbox pvp setting :P
L741[07:25:05] <daemon> Inari, tell you what though, the hover boots or way to expensive for what they do -_-, 4 end stone and they cannot even buffer a 10 block fall
L742[07:25:06] <dangranos> Inari, modded mc?
L743[07:25:21] <dangranos> ahah
L744[07:25:29] <dangranos> >way too expensive<
L745[07:25:42] <Inari> dangranos: no big servers, no mmo setting, too laggy/bad combat, all the techmods arent laid out for it
L746[07:25:48] <dangranos> they absorb fall damage, so shut up, they at least do something
L747[07:26:22] <Inari> they arent that expensive i think, but *shrug*
L748[07:26:29] <daemon> Inari, end stone is not the easiest thing to get
L749[07:26:34] <Inari> wiht ticon it is
L750[07:26:47] <Inari> actually
L751[07:26:50] <Inari> its pretty easy either way
L752[07:26:57] <Negi> daemon: That's why OC adds a "fake" end stone.
L753[07:26:59] <Inari> the ender dragon is a joke, and finding the portal requires liek 1-2 eyes and traingulation
L754[07:27:12] <daemon> Negi, it does .. oops time to look at inventory
L755[07:27:40] <Negi> Last time I managed to run Minecraft anyway.
L756[07:27:48] <Negi> Nowadays Forge makes nouveau crash.
L757[07:27:51] <daemon> yeah it does never spotted that -_- I got the real end stone
L758[07:28:22] <Inari> it does? nice
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L760[07:28:38] <Inari> should change that to make it printed endstoen blocks
L761[07:28:39] <Inari> ;D
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L765[07:31:08] <dangranos> XD
L766[07:33:42] <daemon> dangranos, taking a hint from your sketch book, in my lib the script broadcasts a test message '_net_strength' each robot keeps a relative strength to the robot nearest, when one wants to send something it sends it to the closest robot (signal strength wise) which has a position closer to the wireless server than it
L767[07:33:50] <daemon> that robot will relay to the one closest to it that is nearer
L768[07:33:51] <daemon> etc :)
L769[07:34:07] <dangranos> so
L770[07:34:13] <dangranos> a simple routing engine?
L771[07:34:17] <daemon> pretty muych
L772[07:34:23] <dangranos> that uses shortest path
L773[07:34:24] <daemon> think I should stick it on the wiki when the lib is finished
L774[07:34:31] <dangranos> (at lest the one i think is shortest)
L775[07:34:45] <dangranos> stick it to openprograms
L776[07:34:55] <daemon> yeah it takes the difference between x,y,z on the server vs where the robot is
L777[07:35:10] <daemon> so you end up with a number = the shortest travellable path
L778[07:35:45] <dangranos> um
L779[07:36:16] <daemon> server: 0,0,0, robot1: 10,10,10. robot2: 20,20,20
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L781[07:36:23] <daemon> 0 30 60
L782[07:36:31] <dangranos> what will happen if required "node" is in connection range (a stable one) but it has longest path?
L783[07:36:31] <daemon> so from robot2 robot 1 is closer
L784[07:36:32] <daemon> etc
L785[07:36:36] <dangranos> uh
L786[07:36:48] <dangranos> that isnt a distance..
L787[07:37:04] <daemon> sure it is in x,y,z
L788[07:37:12] <dangranos> um
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L790[07:37:42] <dangranos> sqrt(z^2+sqrt(x^2+y^2)) taht should be a distance
L791[07:37:57] <Inari> Oo
L792[07:38:13] <dangranos> what?
L793[07:38:19] <Inari> why double sqrt
L794[07:38:27] <dangranos> because it's 3D?
L795[07:38:29] <Inari> also what
L796[07:38:29] <daemon> dangranos, mine is much simple and will work just as well in minecraft you know -_-
L797[07:38:41] <dangranos> :|
L798[07:38:45] <dangranos> but math..
L799[07:39:05] <Negi> Distance calculations...
L800[07:39:05] <Inari> dist is sqrt((x_2-x_1)^2 + (y_2-y_1)^2 + (z_2-z_1)^2)
L801[07:39:05] <daemon> dangranos, if this was a world that actually dealt with straight lines that where not flat on planes it would be great :P
L802[07:39:10] <daemon> but this is not second life its mc :)
L803[07:39:14] <dangranos> ouch, forgot ^2
L804[07:39:27] <Inari> and like the
L805[07:39:28] <Inari> minus
L806[07:39:29] <Inari> :p
L807[07:39:35] <dangranos> why minus?
L808[07:39:38] <Inari> unless x meant delta x in yours
L809[07:39:46] <dangranos> duh
L810[07:39:59] <Negi> daemon: Except that wireless simulations often go in straight lines
L811[07:40:07] <Negi> Even in Minecraft ._.
L812[07:40:14] <daemon> Negi, I am actually suprised by that :P
L813[07:40:46] <dangranos> ...
L814[07:40:50] <Negi> Then you need to learn how electromagnetic waves operate :u
L815[07:40:50] * dangranos slaps daemon
L816[07:40:50] * EnderBot2 laughs
L817[07:41:11] <dangranos> i hoped that it wasnt what he said
L818[07:41:18] <Inari> lol
L819[07:41:24] <dangranos> but he did said that
L820[07:41:38] * Negi offers a glass of water to dangranos.
L821[07:41:45] <Negi> Don't faint now.
L822[07:41:45] <dangranos> then how it's supposed (as you think) to "go"?!
L823[07:42:00] <dangranos> go x then y then z?
L824[07:42:29] <dangranos> heh
L825[07:42:37] <daemon> dangranos, that would really surprise you? honestly?
L826[07:42:39] <dangranos> Negi, i am idiot XD
L827[07:42:40] <Inari> sqrt(z^2+sqrt(x^2+y^2)) => 5.66 sqrt((10-5)^2+(10-5)^2+(10-5)^2) => 8.66
L828[07:42:49] <dangranos> Inari, uh
L829[07:42:52] <dangranos> you forgot ^2
L830[07:43:03] <dangranos> and sqrt(something)^2 = something
L831[07:43:04] <Inari> what ^2
L832[07:43:04] <Inari> <.<
L833[07:43:08] <dangranos> i forgot that part, lol
L834[07:43:19] <Inari> sqrt(z^2+sqrt(x^2+y^2)^2) ?
L835[07:43:23] <dangranos> yup
L836[07:43:31] <Inari> why woudl you do that
L837[07:43:43] <dangranos> doble usage of pythagorean theorem
L838[07:43:57] <Inari> why
L839[07:44:00] <dangranos> well, i forgot that sqrt(x)^2=abs(x)
L840[07:44:13] <Inari> also that breaks WA :p
L841[07:44:19] <dangranos> what?
L842[07:44:19] <Inari> ohwait
L843[07:44:20] <Inari> i know why
L844[07:44:36] <Inari> yeah now it correct
L845[07:44:40] <Inari> but still more operations than necessary
L846[07:44:44] <Inari> actually you dont even need the sqrt
L847[07:44:47] <Inari> saves cpu time
L848[07:52:43] <dangranos> why?
L849[07:52:48] <dangranos> wai, which sqrt?
L850[07:52:55] <Inari> the only sqrt you need
L851[07:53:01] <dangranos> ah right
L852[07:53:04] <Negi> Is none
L853[07:53:08] <dangranos> we just need to compare distance
L854[07:53:11] <Inari> yeah
L855[07:53:24] <Inari> if you square the distance you need to compare to you can drop all sqrt whenever calculating :D
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L857[08:12:30] <MajGenRelativity> hello!
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L859[08:15:18] <Izaya> guys
L860[08:15:25] <Izaya> what are some cyb female AI names?
L861[08:15:32] <CompanionCube> cyb?
L862[08:15:38] <Lizzy> cyborg
L863[08:15:50] <MajGenRelativity> what's her face?
L864[08:15:52] <Izaya> cyberpunk, CompanionCube
L865[08:16:26] <CompanionCube> Izaya, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tgstation/-tg-station/master/config/names/ai.txt
L866[08:16:31] <CompanionCube> anything good from this list?
L867[08:16:54] <Izaya> this could be useful
L868[08:19:02] <Izaya> SHIT.
L869[08:19:11] <Izaya> Was looking at the robot.names file
L870[08:19:13] <Izaya> QT-1 # I, Robot
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L872[08:19:19] <Izaya> Watching I, Robot in class
L873[08:19:22] <Izaya> spoilers damnit
L874[08:19:38] <vifino> Hah.
L875[08:19:52] <vifino> Watched I, Robot serveral times, want me to spoil? >:D
L876[08:20:08] * Izaya detaches
L877[08:20:12] <vifino> aww
L878[08:20:19] <Izaya> I'll re-attach once I've finished the movie
L879[08:20:32] <vifino> Don't worry, I won't spoil.
L880[08:20:42] <vifino> I don't remember half of it anyways xD
L881[08:21:17] <Izaya> there were no AIs in SEL, right?
L882[08:21:30] <dangranos> ФШ вшуы шшкс
L883[08:21:41] <vifino> Gotcga
L884[08:21:50] <vifino> *Gotcha dangranos
L885[08:21:59] <dangranos> vifino, huh?
L886[08:22:07] <vifino> Nothing.
L887[08:22:31] <dangranos> it's just something in english yped in wrong layout :P
L888[08:22:46] <dangranos> something - a possible spoiler for "I, Robot"
L889[08:22:57] <vifino> .-.
L890[08:23:08] <Lizzy> Izaya, not unless you count Lain as an AI (she was created to break down the walls between the real world and the wired or something)
L891[08:23:37] <Izaya> Lizzy: hm, thought so.
L892[08:24:19] <dangranos> oh
L893[08:24:29] <Izaya> Okay, next question: Pentium II, Pentium II, Pentium III 500Mhz, Pentium III 800Mhz, Pentium III 1113Mhz, or dual of any previous?
L894[08:24:30] <dangranos> mistook #oc with #sksdev
L895[08:25:18] <Lizzy> Izaya, yes
L896[08:26:00] <Izaya> maybe?
L897[08:28:37] <Izaya> http://ark.intel.com/products/27523/Intel-Pentium-III-Processor---S-1_13-GHz-512K-Cache-133-MHz-FSB I have two of these, but it's not as cool as a slot processor
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L901[08:37:34] <daemon> Izaya, I have a system that uses atyan tiger MPC with 2 Athlon MP 1800's
L902[08:37:42] <daemon> if that fits in your lineup anywhere ;p
L903[08:37:48] <daemon> tyan tiger MPX*
L904[08:37:53] <Izaya> Two athlons?
L905[08:37:58] <Izaya> Nice.
L906[08:38:12] <daemon> its ancient I run a FX 8 core now, but I refuse to throw that away because of the amount of money it cost
L907[08:38:14] <Izaya> The most AMD machine I have is a single-core Athlon XP 2200+ @ 1.8Ghz
L908[08:38:15] <daemon> more than my bloody car at the time
L909[08:38:29] <daemon> motherboard was nearly 300 gbp
L910[08:38:40] <Izaya> o.o
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L912[08:38:56] <daemon> its also the only system in my place that has true pci-x
L913[08:39:02] <daemon> which comes in handy for testing some raid boards out
L914[08:39:35] <Izaya> I have a box with PCI-x
L915[08:39:42] <Izaya> same place I got my dual Pentium IIIs
L916[08:39:48] <Izaya> anyway, uno momento, have to switch machines
L917[08:39:52] <daemon> kk
L918[08:40:05] <CompanionCube> this box has a an AMD Phenom 9150e iirc.
L919[08:40:18] <daemon> I think thats the next one up from mine
L920[08:40:24] <daemon> or is it , what the hell is even in this box
L921[08:40:25] <daemon> one moment
L922[08:40:41] <daemon> AMD FX 8350
L923[08:40:53] <CompanionCube> daemon, yours is much newer
L924[08:40:58] <CompanionCube> this is a quad-core CPU from 2008.
L925[08:41:01] <daemon> ahh
L926[08:41:13] <daemon> yeah thats right phenom-II was superceded by 'fx'
L927[08:41:18] <daemon> I keep thinking as this thing as a phenom -_-
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L929[08:44:19] <Izaya> back
L930[08:44:27] <Izaya> my box has an i3 4160
L931[08:44:39] <Izaya> Most of my stuff has intel processors
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L933[08:45:26] <daemon> Izaya, yeah when my 955 BE blew up I was going to go core i7 but for the system I have now it would amost double the motherboard/processor cost
L934[08:45:29] <daemon> for equivlent performance
L935[08:45:38] <daemon> the I7's maybe cool but feck me are they over priced
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L937[08:46:05] <vifino> daemon: Not all Ghz are the same ;)
L938[08:46:37] <daemon> vifino, real life benchmarks place the fastest core i7 about 11% faster in a generalized suite of tests over the fastest 8core amd offer
L939[08:46:40] <daemon> but at over double the price
L940[08:46:46] <daemon> that is just to higher premium
L941[08:47:11] <Izaya> I'm personally looking forward to the cheap 'embedded' xeons intel is working on
L942[08:47:29] <Izaya> gotta get those cores
L943[08:47:42] <daemon> Izaya, yeah I seen some tech letters on them, there area meant to be a slew of x86 SoC's comnig out shortly too
L944[08:47:46] <vifino> daemon: i7-5960X :3
L945[08:47:49] <vifino> Nuff said :3
L946[08:48:21] <Izaya> meanwhile vifino brags about having access to his dad's credit card
L947[08:48:38] <daemon> why not just use your own credit card (0_o)
L948[08:48:49] <Izaya> I have to work for my money
L949[08:49:03] <Izaya> mind you, getting a $70 tip isn't bad
L950[08:49:34] <daemon> true
L951[08:49:36] <vifino> Izaya: Hey, some dads love their kid, others make a deal with them so they don't have to see them as often.
L952[08:50:05] <Izaya> Mine did neither, and that's good for me :D
L953[08:50:51] <vifino> I get the things I want and he doesn't get to see me often, everyone wins here.
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L965[09:53:18] * MajGenRelativity just realizes that he is being dumb
L966[09:53:46] <MajGenRelativity> I thought about replicating my singleplayer setup to my server, but realized that the setup doesn't scale to the scale i need it
L967[09:54:19] <MajGenRelativity> mostly because space constraints are very different
L968[09:58:55] <MajGenRelativity> farewell
L969[09:59:06] <MajGenRelativity> be careful to make scaleable tech :P
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L971[09:59:11] <Kubuxu> Sangar: TY for finishing it.
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L973[10:02:41] <Sangar> Kubuxu, np
L974[10:03:07] <Sangar> allrighty, 1.5.13 prerelease is out, happy testing everybody :P i'll be back later
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L982[10:23:28] <Inari> #g gopher UI
L983[10:23:29] -Kibibyte- Inari: 18500 results total; First: Modding Fallout NV &#39;Ultimate Edition&#39; part 1 : User Interface - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-3c1a9cLL8
L984[10:25:13] <dangranos> lol
L985[10:25:35] <dangranos> #github gopher gui
L986[10:25:41] <dangranos> #g github gopher gui
L987[10:25:41] -Kibibyte- dangranos: 891 results total; First: OpenPrograms · GitHub | https://github.com/OpenPrograms
L988[10:37:40] <Krutoy242> Is it coincidence? Im right now working on GML... Hmm...
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L990[10:40:12] <gamax92> Can I ask if I can ask if I'm allowed to ask a question?
L991[10:40:39] <Krutoy242> You already does.
L992[10:40:42] <Inari> hm
L993[10:40:47] <Inari> is gml still even being worked on
L994[10:41:00] <gamax92> don't believe so
L995[10:41:12] <Inari> meh, gotta make my own then
L996[10:41:29] <Inari> phrase i tdifferenlty
L997[10:41:42] <Inari> I'd like to know if I can ask a question. <- technically, not a quesiton
L998[10:42:10] <Krutoy242> He leave questionmark in end.
L999[10:42:10] <gamax92> true
L1000[10:42:28] <Inari> well his phrasing would have been a question either way
L1001[10:42:28] <Inari> :p
L1002[10:42:49] * gamax92 encases Inari in ice
L1003[10:42:56] <Inari> thanks
L1004[10:42:58] <Inari> its way to ohot here
L1005[10:43:16] <gamax92> What's the way to ohot?
L1006[10:43:29] <gamax92> I'd like to go to ohot
L1007[10:46:08] <Krutoy242> Question: How to avoid critical error "already loading: 'module'" when im using require() ?
L1008[10:47:42] <gamax92> don't require yourself? :P
L1009[10:48:29] <Krutoy242> I didnt. Or i dont know how i done it. How to check?
L1010[10:49:35] <Krutoy242> Maybe i have several init.lua...
L1011[10:49:55] <gamax92> ... are you requiring init.lua?
L1012[10:50:09] <dangranos> Krutoy242, uh?
L1013[10:50:25] <dangranos> what do you mean "several init.lua"?
L1014[10:51:55] <dangranos> ugh
L1015[10:52:13] <dangranos> is there any way for nicknames in hexchat be individually colored?
L1016[10:52:19] <Krutoy242> gamax92 i have severa folders with init files like /server/ and /gml/. But when i call require"gml" from /server/init.lua it throw "already loading"
L1017[10:53:15] <dangranos> what ._.
L1018[10:53:52] <Xilandro> What did I miss
L1019[10:54:07] <dangranos> what OS is taht even?
L1020[10:54:10] <dangranos> *that
L1021[10:54:52] <Krutoy242> Open OS
L1022[10:55:40] <gamax92> Krutoy242: well, go into /lib/package.lua, and at the bottom of the file where it says "error("already loading: " .. module, 2)", change that to "error("already loading: " .. module .. "\n" .. debug.traceback(), 2)"
L1023[10:55:55] <gamax92> that'll atleast allow you to see the chain of files i.e what's being required
L1024[10:56:16] <Krutoy242> Thanks! , ill try
L1025[10:56:43] <Inari> require requires init.lua
L1026[10:56:45] <Inari> or tries to at least
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L1029[11:00:33] <Krutoy242> gamax92, I tryed traceback, but it say nothing. But, there is more
L1030[11:00:45] * gamax92 shrugs
L1031[11:00:50] <gamax92> what do you mean
L1032[11:00:53] <Krutoy242> gamax92, If i go to lua and write =require"gml" it throw same error
L1033[11:01:03] <gamax92> but there's more stuff?
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L1036[11:02:40] <dangranos> um, where that errors comes from? from gml?
L1037[11:02:40] <Krutoy242> gamax92, no more stuff: http://i.imgur.com/s9T2em3.png
L1038[11:02:52] * dangranos facepalms
L1039[11:02:52] <gamax92> dangranos: error is from package lib
L1040[11:03:21] <dangranos> Krutoy242, there IS "more stuff"
L1041[11:03:23] <gamax92> Thanks lua! your tail calls are lovely!
L1042[11:03:45] <dangranos> </sarcasm>
L1043[11:04:28] <gamax92> Krutoy242: alright, never mind that then, you can put the line back to what it was
L1044[11:06:19] <Krutoy242> gamax92, Sorry, i dont get it. What is my problem with "already loading"? I messed something in autoruns?
L1045[11:07:38] <gamax92> I don't know
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L1047[11:12:18] <Krutoy242> I found error. gamax92 was right from first place - i calling require"gml" inside gml/init.lua. Strange that traceback do not say this.
L1048[11:13:41] <Krutoy242> Next question, if i working in folder /gml/ how i can require files inside it without "gml." prefixes? For example, instead require"gml.canvas" i want write "canvas"
L1049[11:15:26] <gamax92> Krutoy242: why not just put the gml prefix
L1050[11:15:39] <Izaya> http://thewired.science/browse.php?id=10 page 10 of psyche is done
L1051[11:15:43] <gamax92> instead of devising some solution that takes up more characters than the prefix
L1052[11:16:42] <Krutoy242> gamax92 this is not flexible. If i will move /gml/ to other folder, it will force me to rewrite all requires.
L1053[11:17:39] <gamax92> Krutoy242: not all, just one like
L1054[11:17:41] <gamax92> line*
L1055[11:17:59] <gamax92> local base = "gml.", require(base.."canvas")
L1056[11:18:09] <gamax92> changing everything involves changing base
L1057[11:18:17] <Krutoy242> In one file
L1058[11:18:23] <Krutoy242> But others...
L1059[11:19:10] <gamax92> anyway imma go play some agar
L1060[11:20:42] * dangranos wonders if agar supports ipv6
L1061[11:21:00] <dangranos> i cant get it to work with hyperboria for some reason
L1062[11:27:11] <vifino> dangranos: ... You do know that hyperboria is a seperate network not connected to the regular internet, right
L1063[11:27:16] <vifino> +?
L1064[11:27:43] <vifino> You can't just connect to a regular ipv6 address using hyperboria, it's not a tunnel service.
L1065[11:27:51] <dangranos> i know
L1066[11:27:53] <hitecnologys> vifino: and how does that affect its ability to handle IP?
L1067[11:28:03] <dangranos> i meant the ipv6 from hype
L1068[11:28:22] <hitecnologys> What's "agar", anyway?
L1069[11:28:26] <dangranos> agar.io
L1070[11:28:34] <dangranos> a js game
L1071[11:28:41] <hitecnologys> Bleh.
L1072[11:28:52] <hitecnologys> Doesn't work in elinks.
L1073[11:28:53] <vifino> hitecnologys: dangranos wonders if he can connect to agar.io using hyperboria, which won't work unless agar.io would run a hyperboria node.
L1074[11:29:01] <dangranos> nooo
L1075[11:29:10] <vifino> What the hell then?
L1076[11:29:24] <hitecnologys> Woah, it is about cells.
L1077[11:29:32] <Inari> nah
L1078[11:29:34] <Inari> its about blobs
L1079[11:29:35] <dangranos> i wondered if i can connect agar.io to server on hype
L1080[11:29:55] <dangranos> Inari, ssssh, it makes it sound more scientific to mortals
L1081[11:30:17] <hitecnologys> Bleh. I though agar was not a coincidential name.
L1082[11:30:43] <hitecnologys> thought*
L1083[11:31:13] <hitecnologys> dangranos: how does "blob" sound more scientific?
L1084[11:31:45] <dangranos> hitecnologys, i meant "cell"
L1085[11:32:33] <hitecnologys> Ah.
L1086[11:32:55] <dangranos> huh, agar-agar is not just a culinary thing?
L1087[11:33:00] <hitecnologys> Nope.
L1088[11:33:18] <hitecnologys> It's one of main components used for growing bacteria.
L1089[11:33:32] <hitecnologys> Well, there are different mixtures but agar is widely used.
L1090[11:34:18] <dangranos> "Chocolate agar (plate) ... No chocolate is actually contained in the plate; it is named for the coloration only."
L1091[11:34:20] <hitecnologys> If memory served, I even have a few hundred grams somewhere around.
L1092[11:34:24] <hitecnologys> serves*
L1093[11:35:08] <hitecnologys> Anyway, don't eat it.
L1094[11:35:13] <hitecnologys> I mean much of it.
L1095[11:35:21] <hitecnologys> Because of side effects.
L1096[11:35:49] <dangranos> hm?
L1097[11:36:02] <hitecnologys> Agar-agar isn't digested.
L1098[11:36:06] <gamax92> BLUE IS EVERYWHERE
L1099[11:36:11] <gamax92> THEY SURROUND YOU
L1100[11:36:34] <dangranos> gamax92, plot twist: that's one player who have devided
L1101[11:36:39] <dangranos> a lot
L1102[11:36:41] <hitecnologys> dangranos: which means large quantities of it are likely to turn your butt into jet engine.
L1103[11:37:06] <dangranos> hitecnologys, would go well with old milk and some beans
L1104[11:37:17] <gamax92> dangranos: no it was actually multiple
L1105[11:37:19] <hitecnologys> dangranos: yeah.
L1106[11:37:26] <dangranos> isnt agar expensive, though?
L1107[11:37:33] <hitecnologys> Nope. Cheap as hell.
L1108[11:37:40] <gamax92> they team up
L1109[11:37:41] <hitecnologys> Got mine for like a few bucks.
L1110[11:37:56] <dangranos> maybe i mistook something..
L1111[11:38:23] <hitecnologys> Oh, goddamit.
L1112[11:38:28] <dangranos> hm?
L1113[11:38:29] <hitecnologys> I hate toxic.
L1114[11:38:51] <hitecnologys> It just dropped by goddamn data file.
L1115[11:38:54] <hitecnologys> Excellent.
L1116[11:38:58] <Inari> toxic?
L1117[11:39:03] <hitecnologys> Tox client.
L1118[11:39:05] <dangranos> but isn't it's only tox console client?
L1119[11:39:10] <hitecnologys> Yes.
L1120[11:39:14] <hitecnologys> But I keep backups.
L1121[11:39:17] <dangranos> well sh~
L1122[11:39:54] <dangranos> there is ratox
L1123[11:40:02] <hitecnologys> It's too terminal-based.
L1124[11:40:09] <hitecnologys> I don't want to tailf to chat.
L1125[11:41:21] <hitecnologys> dangranos: could you please readd me?
L1126[11:41:35] <hitecnologys> That backup was made before you appears in my contact list.
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L1128[11:45:15] <dangranos> uh, what was your id?
L1129[11:45:26] <hitecnologys> PMd it.
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L1133[12:16:56] <dangranos> XD
L1134[12:17:09] <dangranos> so, cubic chunks mod, a working one
L1135[12:17:49] <dangranos> a lot of issues about "X breaks at y<0 or y>255"
L1136[12:18:17] <Lizzy> did they actually release something that worked?
L1137[12:18:33] <Lizzy> s/that worked\?//
L1138[12:18:33] <Kibibyte> <Lizzy> did they actually release something
L1139[12:18:55] <dangranos> "works"
L1140[12:22:14] <dangranos> http://www.cuchazinteractive.com/tall-worlds/
L1141[12:22:29] <dangranos> i guess it's "proof of concept"
L1142[12:23:12] <Lizzy> yeah, "Basically, this version is going to break. A lot. Expect it." on the main page kinda gives that away
L1143[12:23:35] <dangranos> https://github.com/TallWorlds/CubicChunks/issues
L1144[12:24:57] <dangranos> but it's still awesome
L1145[12:25:29] <dangranos> " It's not going to be compatible with anything else at all. Not world editors, not other mods, not map renderers. Nothing. Nadda. It doesn't even support servers yet."
L1146[12:28:57] <gamax92> ooooooooo
L1147[12:30:12] <Vexatos> uuuuuuuuu
L1148[12:31:05] <Lizzy> aaaaaaaaaa
L1149[12:31:10] <Lizzy> fak
L1150[12:31:14] <dangranos> уууууууу
L1151[12:31:25] <dangranos> s/у/ю
L1152[12:31:25] <Kibibyte> <dangranos> юууууууу
L1153[12:31:29] <dangranos> :|
L1154[12:31:45] <dangranos> s/у/ю/g
L1155[12:31:45] <Kibibyte> <dangranos> юююююююю
L1156[12:31:59] <Inari> cubic chunks just unnecessarily complicate chunks more, when they already are too important to players even now
L1157[12:32:27] <dangranos> uh, what?
L1158[12:33:16] <Inari> well e.g. for chunkloading you'll now have to consider height too, not only the chunk
L1159[12:33:39] <hitecnologys> Cubic chunks are essential for infinite height.
L1160[12:33:45] <Inari> sure
L1161[12:33:56] <hitecnologys> And they also allow better compression.
L1162[12:34:05] <Inari> lets fix chunklaoding first then
L1163[12:34:05] <Inari> :D
L1164[12:34:22] <gamax92> hitecnologys: except it's not infinite height, nor are minecraft worlds infinite anyway
L1165[12:34:39] <hitecnologys> gamax92: right. The protocols carries Y as a byte. =P
L1166[12:34:57] <hitecnologys> gamax92: but, well, the protocol could be changed.
L1167[12:34:57] <gamax92> i didn't mean that.
L1168[12:35:04] <Lizzy> Inari, I guess that the fact that the system overwrites the chunk loading/generation to allow for cubic chunks that the loading problem can be tackled
L1169[12:35:09] <gamax92> infact that doesn't apply at all
L1170[12:35:09] <hitecnologys> gamax92: overflow?
L1171[12:35:22] <gamax92> no
L1172[12:35:34] <Inari> Lizzy: well i thas to, so it can load chunks 3dimensionally around palyers
L1173[12:35:53] <Inari> the issue wiht the loading system is that it is a bad implementation, players should never be aware of it
L1174[12:35:56] <hitecnologys> gamax92: then it must be finite amount of memory that you referred to? Miss again?
L1175[12:36:02] <gamax92> nope
L1176[12:36:06] <hitecnologys> Bleh.
L1177[12:36:08] <hitecnologys> I give up.
L1178[12:36:28] <Inari> gamax92: infinite for all pracctical applicatiosn
L1179[12:36:34] <gamax92> well yeah
L1180[12:36:43] <gamax92> but worlds die around
L1181[12:36:44] <gamax92> ~30,000,000
L1182[12:36:49] <dangranos> hm?
L1183[12:36:56] <hitecnologys> That's because it's poorly implemented.
L1184[12:36:59] <Lizzy> Inari, are you placing issues with minecrafts default chunkloading system on a (beta) chunk overhaul mod
L1185[12:37:02] <hitecnologys> Anvil format can't handle it.
L1186[12:37:15] <Inari> Lizzy: no, im just saying the mod will reinforce those issues
L1187[12:37:18] <dangranos> Lizzy, i guess he does
L1188[12:37:24] <Inari> dangranos: she :P
L1189[12:37:27] <hitecnologys> If all the formats are right, world could be as infinite as disk space and network bandwidth allows.
L1190[12:37:46] <dangranos> Inari, i was referring to gamax92, or wai~
L1191[12:37:47] <Inari> or rather, amke them even more annoying and prevalent than tthey are curretnly
L1192[12:37:54] <gamax92> why does network bandwidth matter here?
L1193[12:38:08] <hitecnologys> gamax92: because you'd have to pass coordinates in such a world?
L1194[12:38:53] <gamax92> no you could just use delta positions for that
L1195[12:39:07] <hitecnologys> What about initial spawning?
L1196[12:39:10] <gamax92> not to mention a 64bit number is huge
L1197[12:39:38] <hitecnologys> If the world is infinite, in worst case scenario 64 bits isn't enough.
L1198[12:39:49] <hitecnologys> But yeah, I see you point.
L1199[12:40:04] <hitecnologys> your*
L1200[12:40:35] <gamax92> it's funny when you hear people talking about 128bit ranges of memory
L1201[12:40:39] <hitecnologys> Relative positioning is a ping, though.
L1202[12:40:40] <Lizzy> Inari, well, I think that those problems can be fixed because of the complete overhaul, if you're gonna overwrite the chunk generating system you can fix the bugs without much of a backlash as you would have with in say a forge mod (cause it's an entirely new system)
L1203[12:40:47] <gamax92> and its like, cause we are anywhere close to EiB
L1204[12:40:56] <gamax92> i.e not
L1205[12:41:03] <hitecnologys> gamax92: I'd rather subdivide map into big regions and use relative positioning inside them.
L1206[12:41:06] <Inari> Lizzy: i think for those issues to be truly fixed mods woudl have to be rewritten
L1207[12:41:08] <hitecnologys> gamax92: this way it's stateless.
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L1209[12:41:34] <dangranos> hitecnologys, but you woud need to stone info about you region pos
L1210[12:41:35] <Lizzy> Inari, i think most mods would have to be re-written if they rely on chunk stuff in any way
L1211[12:41:48] <dangranos> Lizzy, aka chunk-loaders?
L1212[12:41:58] <hitecnologys> dangranos: you store absolute coordinates anyway on server side.
L1213[12:42:14] <Lizzy> dangranos, that's a big one that'd have to be re-written. no doubt about that
L1214[12:42:28] <dangranos> also, biomes mods
L1215[12:42:48] <dangranos> and custom sctructures mods too
L1216[12:42:57] <Inari> well all mods using any form of tileentity
L1217[12:42:57] <Lizzy> though mods like Galacticraft would also need some form of a re-write due to the fact that the rocket normally leaves the overworld and other worlds at y+1000
L1218[12:43:00] <hitecnologys> Anyway, static chunks aren't great. I'd rather have chunk size dynamically changed based on what's inside.
L1219[12:43:09] <dangranos> Inari, why?
L1220[12:43:27] <dangranos> Lizzy, huh?
L1221[12:43:30] <Inari> dangranos: cause currenlty you have to chunklaod them
L1222[12:43:45] <dangranos> wut ._.
L1223[12:43:56] <hitecnologys> And chunk-loading is stupid idea since you don't really need to load all the chunks.
L1224[12:44:05] <hitecnologys> Mostly, it's machines, some dynamic structures.
L1225[12:44:07] <Inari> tile entities wont operate if the chunk they are in is unlaoded
L1226[12:44:11] <Inari> thus you need to chunkload them
L1227[12:44:13] <Inari> which you shoudlnt
L1228[12:44:15] <hitecnologys> Which is less than half of blocks you load.
L1229[12:44:18] <Inari> chunkloaders shouldnt even exist
L1230[12:44:23] <dangranos> Inari, uh
L1231[12:44:27] <hitecnologys> Other blocks are a waste of memory and CPU time.
L1232[12:44:32] * gamax92 puts Inari in the stupid ideas box
L1233[12:44:35] <Lizzy> dangranos, i was saying that mods that do specific things at specific heights would need a re-write to take the new height/depth boundaries into place
L1234[12:44:35] <dangranos> Inari, but the player loads them, why would they need rewrite?
L1235[12:44:44] <Inari> if not for performance reasons, then because its an implementation detail about how the world works
L1236[12:44:48] <hitecnologys> gamax92: Inari is right in certain ways.
L1237[12:44:49] <Inari> players shoudl not be in contact wiht those
L1238[12:45:02] <Inari> dangranos: because when you go away they stop working
L1239[12:45:05] <Inari> unless you chunload them
L1240[12:45:12] <dangranos> Lizzy, for that it's non critical, for everything else.. just change value by X?
L1241[12:45:18] <dangranos> Inari, uh
L1242[12:45:23] <hitecnologys> gamax92: chunkloaders aren't needed. Ideally, server should have an idea about what should be loaded and what should not.
L1243[12:45:25] <dangranos> that's problem of vanila system too
L1244[12:45:33] <Inari> dangranos: yeah, so?
L1245[12:45:37] <dangranos> Inari, that's LOGIC of vanila system
L1246[12:45:41] <dangranos> and this one too
L1247[12:45:46] <Inari> yeah, so?
L1248[12:46:22] <Lizzy> Inari, i don't get what you mean about the tileentites staying loaded
L1249[12:46:24] <Inari> the point was that chunkloading is already annoying, which it shouldnt be, cubci chunks will just make it even more annoying unless it is fixed
L1250[12:46:26] <dangranos> Inari, "<@Lizzy> Inari, are you placing issues with minecrafts default chunkloading system on a (beta) chunk overhaul mod"
L1251[12:46:39] <Inari> but for it ot be fixed pretty mcuha ll mods woudl need to be rewritten
L1252[12:46:45] <Inari> Lizzy: hm?
L1253[12:46:58] <dangranos> ...
L1254[12:47:02] <Inari> Lizzy: when tile entities unload they stop working.. thats why you load you rbase when you move far away
L1255[12:47:02] <hitecnologys> Inari: not necessarily.
L1256[12:47:10] <hitecnologys> Inari: you could write adapters.
L1257[12:47:16] <Lizzy> Inari, yes, what's wrong with that?
L1258[12:47:24] <dangranos> so, you want to say that every mod with tile-entites MUST keep those entities chunk's loaded?
L1259[12:47:41] <Inari> Lizzy: that its a thing that shouldnt exist, stuff should just run, chunks are an implementation detail, players should not have direct contact with those
L1260[12:47:41] <hitecnologys> dangranos: that's not what I said!
L1261[12:47:46] <dangranos> becase we get 3D and smaller chunks?
L1262[12:47:54] <dangranos> hitecnologys, that's to inari
L1263[12:48:14] <Inari> dangranos: nah, loading a chunk is ap retty weird concept :P
L1264[12:48:15] <Lizzy> Inari, so we should load the entire world at once and simulate it every tick?
L1265[12:48:19] <Inari> a lot of TEs can operate wihtout loading a chunk
L1266[12:48:41] <dangranos> Inari, oh, but where would they be "bound" to?
L1267[12:48:42] <Inari> Lizzy: most things need no chunks loaded
L1268[12:48:54] <dangranos> and what would they do without a player nearby?
L1269[12:49:02] <Inari> dangranos: process ores, etc?
L1270[12:49:02] <hitecnologys> dangranos: I say mods should warn the server about what entities they operate on and it's up to server to intelligently decide which are loaded based on some data it has. Since server is supposed to have all the data possible, the decision should usually be right.
L1271[12:49:21] <dangranos> Inari, but that would require access to other machines too, right?
L1272[12:49:33] <dangranos> unless there is 1-in-all ore processing TE
L1273[12:49:39] <Inari> dangranos: which are present once a chunk is unloaded, yeah
L1274[12:49:44] <hitecnologys> dangranos: player position in this process should be reduced to minimum leaving only option to increase and decrease priorities.
L1275[12:49:48] <Inari> and wont change while the chunk is unlaoded
L1276[12:50:17] * dangranos is confused
L1277[12:50:24] <hitecnologys> dangranos: basically, you don't need to load entities most of the time since, say, furnace produces it's result only every 10 seconds. The rest of the time could be put into something more useful.
L1278[12:50:26] <Inari> heck for things like ac obble gen that needs to load lik 9 blocks, you could even create a microchunk in which the TE operates once the chunk gets unloaded
L1279[12:50:31] <Inari> then gets re-merged into the chunk on reload
L1280[12:50:34] <dangranos> not all at once pls Q_Q
L1281[12:50:36] <Inari> *merged
L1282[12:50:40] * Lizzy decides to ignore the chat and go back to working on nginx on her server
L1283[12:50:57] <dangranos> uh
L1284[12:50:58] <Inari> basically, if i have 5 machines that process ore, withs ome pipes
L1285[12:50:58] <hitecnologys> Lizzy: smart idea. I'd rather return to coding session too.
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L1287[12:51:05] <Inari> theres no reason any of thsoe need chunkloading
L1288[12:51:07] <dangranos> Inari, so, you want a freaking 1-block chunks?
L1289[12:51:12] <Inari> the chests are TEs
L1290[12:51:13] <Inari> the pipes are TEs
L1291[12:51:16] <Inari> the machiens are TEs
L1292[12:51:20] <Inari> nothing needs the chunk
L1293[12:51:28] <dangranos> ._.
L1294[12:51:47] <dangranos> question, how would you store that TE's blocks without a chunk system?
L1295[12:52:04] <dangranos> chunks are primarily a what? storage format, right?
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L1297[12:52:48] <Inari> there are chukns
L1298[12:52:55] <Inari> but TEs dont need them loaded necessarily
L1299[12:54:16] <Inari> same reason why a looong pipe wouldnt need all chunks inbetween laoded
L1300[12:55:08] <dangranos> mhm, so you say that TEs should be able to work without chunks at all because they are TE and can just throw items to each others?
L1301[12:55:20] <dangranos> *without loading chunks
L1302[12:55:44] <dangranos> or data
L1303[12:57:50] <Inari> well, crudely summarized, yeah
L1304[12:58:11] <dangranos> then how would you implement it?
L1305[12:58:24] <dangranos> you would need to rework how TE work completely
L1306[12:58:55] <dangranos> and somehow let them stay loaded
L1307[12:59:08] <dangranos> (their code, not chunks ofc)
L1308[12:59:56] <Inari> dunno, mutliple ways, could rework how Tes work, or make a mod implement an overarching system that handles the logic code ors uch
L1309[13:00:17] <Inari> hm
L1310[13:00:25] <Inari> anyone made a piping mod yet that works with unloaded chunks?
L1311[13:00:34] <dangranos> isnt that what that cubic chunks mod does with chunks system?
L1312[13:00:46] <Inari> maybe, but thats irrelevant
L1313[13:01:30] <dangranos> then why did that TE topic come up with that chunks mod?
L1314[13:01:32] <dangranos> wai
L1315[13:02:02] <Inari> cause teh cubic chunks will make the issues TEs have with chunkloading more apparent
L1316[13:02:20] <Mimiru> damn it I missed Sangar.. lol
L1317[13:02:37] <dangranos> how "more"?
L1318[13:03:08] <Inari> currently you have only have to consider a circle, wiht it you'd have to worry about how far up/down your stuff acn be etc
L1319[13:04:04] <dangranos> mhm
L1320[13:04:46] * dangranos hopes that there is separate setting for distance of loading of vartical chunks
L1321[13:04:58] <gamax92> Mimiru: you gave me jenkins? for something that doesn't change often?
L1322[13:05:20] <Mimiru> I wanted it built, and gradle wouldn't build it on my computer for some reason
L1323[13:06:25] <Lizzy> .-. nginx pls
L1324[13:07:01] <Lizzy> oh, okay. so it's working now
L1325[13:07:02] <Lizzy> huh
L1326[13:08:48] <dangranos> uh
L1327[13:13:57] <Lizzy> ?
L1328[13:14:22] * PotatoTrumpet eats Lizzy
L1329[13:14:30] <Lizzy> oh shit
L1330[13:14:50] * Lizzy slowly desolved
L1331[13:14:59] <Lizzy> s/d^/s
L1332[13:15:07] <Lizzy> s/d$/s
L1333[13:15:07] <Kibibyte> * Lizzy slowly desolves
L1334[13:15:36] * Lizzy is now goop
L1335[13:16:28] * PotatoTrumpet shits lizzy out
L1336[13:16:52] * Lizzy slowly starts reforming
L1337[13:17:36] <PotatoTrumpet> G'day mate
L1338[13:17:55] * Lizzy screeches as she finishes forming
L1339[13:18:07] * Lizzy punches PotatoTrumpet in the face
L1340[13:18:12] <Lizzy> don't do that again, please
L1341[13:18:32] * gamax92 gives Lizzy a cloth
L1342[13:18:44] * Lizzy takes cloth and wipes herself
L1343[13:18:47] * CompanionCube glomps LIzzy
L1344[13:19:03] <vifino> o.o
L1345[13:19:04] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, ffs i just cleaned myself! :<
L1346[13:19:08] * PotatoTrumpet clobbers CompanionCube
L1347[13:19:11] * Lizzy goes to wash herself off
L1348[13:19:14] <PotatoTrumpet> yum
L1349[13:19:19] <PotatoTrumpet> I want some peach cobbler
L1350[13:19:22] <PotatoTrumpet> or apple
L1351[13:19:24] <PotatoTrumpet> or something
L1352[13:19:30] <PotatoTrumpet> just I WANT IT NAOW
L1353[13:19:40] * Inari mixes cobblestone with peach and pelts PotatoTrumpet
L1354[13:19:58] * PotatoTrumpet grabs Inari and sends him to ISIS
L1355[13:20:14] <vifino> clobber reminds me of that terrible mozilla build tool, mach.
L1356[13:20:21] <vifino> ./mach clobber my ass
L1357[13:20:30] <Lizzy> PotatoTrumpet, *her
L1358[13:21:04] <PotatoTrumpet> Lizzy, On the internet, everyone is a he
L1359[13:21:09] <Lizzy> False
L1360[13:21:12] <Mimiru> Nop.
L1361[13:21:15] <vifino> ^
L1362[13:21:37] <Lizzy> %lookup janus.theender.net
L1363[13:21:37] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for janus.theender.net 107.191.47.156 2001:19f0:6800:8161::1
L1364[13:22:03] * CompanionCube peels PotatoTrumpet
L1365[13:22:15] <CompanionCube> hmm, can you be made into fries
L1366[13:22:26] <PotatoTrumpet> %lookup shadowkat.tk
L1367[13:22:26] <MichiBot> PotatoTrumpet: DNS Info for shadowkat.tk 210.1.213.55
L1368[13:22:28] <Lizzy> FriedPotatoTrumpet
L1369[13:22:35] <PotatoTrumpet> CompanionCube, how do you peel brass?
L1370[13:22:54] <CompanionCube> PotatoTrumpet, you're a potato
L1371[13:22:56] <CompanionCube> silly
L1372[13:23:07] <PotatoTrumpet> No, I'm a trumpet that is in the shape of a potato
L1373[13:23:25] * CompanionCube corrodes PotatoTrumpet
L1374[13:23:37] * PotatoTrumpet wonders how CompanionCube corrodes a Potato
L1375[13:23:55] * CompanionCube spills acid on PotatoTrumpet
L1376[13:24:31] * PotatoTrumpet wonders why CompanionCube is spilling acid on his monitor
L1377[13:25:25] * CompanionCube eats PotatoTrumpet
L1378[13:25:38] <PotatoTrumpet> Now you're eating your monitor?
L1379[13:25:43] <PotatoTrumpet> U crazy
L1380[13:25:55] <CompanionCube> .....how are you my monitor
L1381[13:25:57] <CompanionCube> just how
L1382[13:26:16] <daemon> hey all, what are the thre slots marked in red for: http://i.imgur.com/7Bacl8t.png
L1383[13:26:53] <CompanionCube> daemon, upgrades
L1384[13:27:03] <daemon> CompanionCube, Don't they go in the upper slots
L1385[13:27:04] <Mimiru> Disk drive.. stuff like that
L1386[13:27:11] <daemon> so just extra slots
L1387[13:27:12] <daemon> for whatever
L1388[13:27:14] <CompanionCube> ah...good point
L1389[13:27:28] <Lizzy> upgrade containers
L1390[13:27:33] <Lizzy> daemon, ^
L1391[13:27:41] <daemon> ah for the crap thats interchangable
L1392[13:27:42] <daemon> got it
L1393[13:28:03] <Lizzy> it's not crap. It's technical shizzel
L1394[13:29:04] <daemon> :)
L1395[13:29:57] <Mimiru> lol gamax92 jenkins is building it that :P
L1396[13:30:05] <Mimiru> it scans every 15 minutes for changes
L1397[13:32:13] <daemon> mhmm I jsut started building a robot
L1398[13:32:14] <gamax92> gradel
L1399[13:32:20] <daemon> tand the assembler is saying 0% ... and nothing else
L1400[13:32:22] <gamax92> 's decompile is hogging all the CPU
L1401[13:32:27] <daemon> ahh I destroyed the power line
L1402[13:32:28] <daemon> tnm
L1403[13:33:42] <gamax92> Mimiru: it probably doesn't help it wasn't setup for a newer version of forge nor oc
L1404[13:33:47] <Lizzy> k, that's SGTech2's site now live on Janus, how am I going to do my main site
L1405[13:33:52] <gamax92> AND that i had those changes sitting in my local git copy
L1406[13:34:21] <Mimiru> gamax92, it built fine on jenkins though :P
L1407[13:39:40] <daemon> what is the maximum y bedrock appears at
L1408[13:39:42] <daemon> about 5?
L1409[13:41:34] <Lizzy> ye
L1410[13:42:18] <daemon> cheers Lizzy
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L1412[14:05:30] <gamax92> Mimiru: halp
L1413[14:06:11] <gamax92> I have oc maven listed in build.gradle yet its trying to fetch from https://libraries.minecraft.net/
L1414[14:07:31] <gamax92> oh, because i put a dash instead of a colon
L1415[14:10:43] <gamax92> oh jeez, wtf is this indentation http://git.io/vLJLs
L1416[14:10:48] *** Fairy is now known as Daiyousei
L1417[14:11:19] <gamax92> it's not even consistently bad
L1418[14:17:39] <Krutoy242> Question: What means :: ?
L1419[14:17:50] <gamax92> Krutoy242: label
L1420[14:18:12] <gamax92> you can goto it
L1421[14:18:41] <gamax92> #lua _VERSION
L1422[14:18:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Lua 5.1 Sandbox
L1423[14:18:42] <gamax92> aww
L1424[14:21:33] <gamax92> Mimiru: while true do component.masssound.playSound("tile.piston.in","tile.piston.out") end
L1425[14:23:07] *** Kubuxu is now known as Kubuxu|away
L1426[14:27:47] *** Kubuxu|away is now known as Kubuxu
L1427[14:38:33] <ds84182> while true do component.masssound.playSound("random.explode") end
L1428[14:38:43] <ds84182> while true do component.masssound.playSound("random.chestopen","random.chestclose") end
L1429[14:39:38] <daemon> ds84182, making techno tunes?
L1430[14:39:48] <gamax92> I ported MassSound to 1.8 btw
L1431[14:40:31] <gamax92> daemon: syncronizing something up to a tick is a dream in OC, things just randomly skip a tick and makes everything sadface
L1432[14:40:58] <ds84182> gamax92: Can have masssonund jar for 1.7
L1433[14:40:59] <ds84182> pls
L1434[14:41:00] <daemon> gamax92, yeah I have wireless cards than randomly skip
L1435[14:41:15] <gamax92> ds84182: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93572794/Mods/MassSound-1.7.10-1.1.1.jar
L1436[14:44:04] <ds84182> gamax92: <3
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L1439[14:49:44] <Lizzy> !flags
L1440[14:50:38] * Lizzy slaps EnderBot2
L1441[14:50:38] * EnderBot2 grabs Ender's Katana and slices Lizzy in half
L1442[14:50:42] <Lizzy> k
L1443[14:51:10] <vifino> o.o
L1444[14:51:15] <gamax92> killed by your own blade
L1445[14:52:01] <Lizzy> i changed my nickserv account name, EnderBot2 has a feature for getting the account name and since it didn't equal "JoshTheEnder" anymore it didn't do it's normal thing it does if i slap it
L1446[14:52:57] <Mimiru> Lizzy, is that an option, or did an IRC Op have to change it?
L1447[14:53:09] <Lizzy> Mimiru, /ns set accountname nick
L1448[14:53:10] <gamax92> thats an option
L1449[14:53:20] <Mimiru> Oh neat.... I don't thin anope has that :(
L1450[14:53:27] <Mimiru> s/thin/think
L1451[14:53:28] <Kibibyte> <Mimiru> Oh neat.... I don't think anope has that :(
L1452[14:53:35] <gamax92> s/:(/:)
L1453[14:53:39] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1454[14:53:39] <gamax92> FUCK
L1455[14:53:54] <ds84182> s/:\(/:)
L1456[14:53:54] <Kibibyte> <Mimiru> Oh neat.... I don't think anope has that :)
L1457[14:53:55] <Lizzy> Mimiru, doesn't seem to
L1458[14:54:16] <ds84182> gamax92: I ran the whlie true do code
L1459[14:54:20] <ds84182> All I can say is ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1460[14:54:30] <gamax92> ds84182: now make a music tracker
L1461[14:55:30] <Xilandro> gamax92, feature request
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L1465[14:55:54] <gamax92> I don't know how
L1466[14:55:56] <Xilandro> component.masssound.stopPlaying() -- Immediately stop playing any currently playing sounds
L1467[14:55:59] <gamax92> consult someone better in mod making
L1468[14:56:19] <gamax92> see, i have not a clue how to do that
L1469[14:56:31] <Mimiru> Xilandro, the issue with playSoundEffect is... you have no control over that
L1470[14:56:39] <ds84182> gamax92: Can I change pitch
L1471[14:56:40] <Mimiru> to do that you have to implement ISound and bs
L1472[14:56:42] <gamax92> yes
L1473[14:56:48] <gamax92> 2;tile.piston.in
L1474[14:56:53] <Lizzy> Xilandro, component.masssound.stopHammerTime()
L1475[14:56:57] <gamax92> 0.5;tile.piston.in
L1476[14:57:56] <Mimiru> I was using playSoundEffect for the Alarm in OS... but you couldn't stop it you had to let it play out
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L1478[15:11:13] <ds84182> Anyone have a midi program that uses masssound?
L1479[15:11:14] <ds84182> or no
L1480[15:11:57] <Xilandro> Not sure how that would work
L1481[15:12:09] <Xilandro> You'd have to get a mod to load a midi file, in what I assume would have to be ogg format
L1482[15:12:17] <gamax92> Xilandro: no?
L1483[15:12:25] <gamax92> Sangar and a few other people have made midi players for oc
L1484[15:12:33] <Xilandro> Sangar's uses note blocks iirc
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L1486[15:12:51] <gamax92> and so you simply switch out noteblock code to masssound code
L1487[15:12:51] *** BEnguin is now known as Benguin
L1488[15:13:36] <ds84182> gamax92: I don't really like Sangar's midi player
L1489[15:13:43] <gamax92> WELL I DON'T LIKE YOU
L1490[15:13:44] <ds84182> when I tryed it it was missing a few tracks
L1491[15:16:36] <ds84182> hmm...
L1492[15:16:46] <ds84182> midi note -> mc note -> mc pitch
L1493[15:16:47] <ds84182> gr8
L1494[15:17:16] <ds84182> time to resurrect some code
L1495[15:24:14] <ds84182> gamax92: ...can I not play multiple sounds at the same time so that they overlap?
L1496[15:24:33] <gamax92> i'm pretty sure you can
L1497[15:24:44] <ds84182> ...welp, I cant
L1498[15:24:55] <ds84182> Is it a blocking call?
L1499[15:25:05] <gamax92> oh yes it will wait a tick
L1500[15:25:11] <ds84182> Djnkgfdsj;'dlblrqekdo;jkfptfmjnbldkamtg
L1501[15:25:19] * ds84182 stabs gamax92
L1502[15:25:31] <gamax92> I'm not sure it can be made direct since it's doing world stuff (playing a sound)
L1503[15:25:40] <gamax92> ds84182: why not just play two sounds at once?
L1504[15:25:42] <gamax92> ya goof
L1505[15:25:50] <ds84182> I can't?
L1506[15:25:57] <gamax92> it takes 8 parameters
L1507[15:26:23] <ds84182> welp, can't modify sangar's crap to use masssound
L1508[15:26:35] <ds84182> without lots of boilerplate code
L1509[15:27:05] <Mimiru> "lots of boilerplate code" Welcome to minecraft. :P
L1510[15:27:27] <ds84182> gamax92: You could put sounds in a queue to be read from updateEntity
L1511[15:27:35] <ds84182> "synchronization"
L1512[15:27:48] <gamax92> I've made sanger's midi player use masssound
L1513[15:27:52] <gamax92> stop being stupid ya goof
L1514[15:27:59] <ds84182> THEN GIVE ME SOURCE
L1515[15:28:00] <ds84182> PLS
L1516[15:28:08] <ds84182> All I did was add 18 custom instruments
L1517[15:28:13] <gamax92> i dunno where it is I just remember it being possible
L1518[15:28:17] <ds84182> that all invoke masssound
L1519[15:28:22] <ds84182> gamax92: t-t
L1520[15:28:34] <ds84182> unless proof -> you didn't make it
L1521[15:28:42] <ds84182> and you didn't chisel it.
L1522[15:28:43] <gamax92> It's a stone luigi
L1523[15:29:09] <gamax92> while true do playSound("mob.enderdragon.end")
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L1525[15:30:21] <ds84182> the main problem is that it's a direct call -_-
L1526[15:30:47] <Mimiru> I need to make a forum post.. q_q
L1527[15:30:56] <gamax92> I need an adult
L1528[15:31:07] <Mimiru> Me too.
L1529[15:41:14] <Negi> I need a generalized potato.
L1530[15:41:52] <gamax92> I need you, baby
L1531[15:45:08] <ds84182> I need an American Miracle to save you, baybe boo finger potato adult luigi forum post
L1532[15:46:46] <gamax92> CC can do unicode
L1533[15:46:57] <ds84182> wAt
L1534[15:47:04] <ds84182> bullshit
L1535[15:47:19] <gamax92> http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/topic/23420-/
L1536[15:49:00] <gamax92> ds84182: ^
L1537[15:49:28] <ds84182> I saw
L1538[15:49:33] <ds84182> it's not official so it's OK
L1539[15:59:50] <ds84182> gamax92: guess what word this is: hgfrertyuklo
L1540[16:00:03] <ds84182> hint: gesture input on phone
L1541[16:01:23] <gamax92> Jeffery
L1542[16:02:43] <ds84182> you are 100% incorrect!
L1543[16:06:14] <gamax92> ds84182: what is it
L1544[16:06:41] <ds84182> hello
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L1547[16:18:01] <PotatoTrumpet> Wiggle Wiggle
L1548[16:18:08] <PotatoTrumpet> Piggel Piggel
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L1550[16:25:53] <shawniac> is there a way to test IF autostart.lua gets even read? i followed the offcial way to let harddrives automount and it does nothing, my guess is that it never gets read. running newest forge on 1.8 minecraft and newest oc afaik (should not be relevant) on linux x64 if that makes any difference to anything
L1551[16:31:43] <PotatoTrumpet> shawniac, make it do computer.beep(randomPitch) to see if it gets read
L1552[16:31:59] <PotatoTrumpet> autorun.lua is very strange
L1553[16:32:06] <PotatoTrumpet> anjd I don't understand it
L1554[16:32:22] <shawniac> yeah i figured, all seems to work fine more or less, but thats like super weird
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L1556[16:32:49] <shawniac> but thanks, thats a good advice
L1557[16:34:59] <shawniac> hmm
L1558[16:35:49] <shawniac> the computer api needs the component api, and i read in some quite recent thread on the official forums that you'd have to wait for components to initialize with "event.listen('init', function() ...)"
L1559[16:37:09] <shawniac> shouldnt a simple print statement work? print("i hate autostart") in the /autostart.lua of a drive, remove and reinsert the drive should then print that sentence right?
L1560[16:37:34] <shawniac> afaik autostart gets read at boot and if harddrives are inserted into the case
L1561[16:39:18] <shawniac> i basically just want to automount the drive under /home, cd to that dir and set a resolution, i got that code done, and it works when executed directly, but never gets "autostarted" :c
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L1563[16:51:36] <shawniac> oh i just saw that theres gonna be a bigger (?) update about to come, maybe that will finally fix autostart.lua :P
L1564[16:55:04] <Mimiru> shawniac, http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-06-14_16-54-58.png
L1565[16:55:10] <Mimiru> the first print is from the reboot
L1566[16:55:18] <Mimiru> the 2nd is from reinserting the hdd with the autorun.lua
L1567[16:56:04] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-06-14_16-55-48.png And here, I've kept taking the drive out, and putting it back in.
L1568[16:57:28] <shawniac> well, what version of oc are you using? what mc version? which os? what are the minimal steps to reproduce that, i have a empty hdd drive with only autostart.lua with a print statement
L1569[16:57:33] <shawniac> no matter what i do, nothing gets printed
L1570[16:57:59] <Mimiru> 1.5.12.26
L1571[16:58:03] <Mimiru> using OpenOS
L1572[16:58:23] <Mimiru> and .. I made a autorun.lua on the root of the drive, and put print("Hello from my autorun!")
L1573[16:58:27] <shawniac> 1.5.12.29 (didn't work before too, so this cant be it)
L1574[16:58:33] <Mimiru> and rebooted/reinserted.
L1575[16:58:49] <shawniac> and mc version? 1.8 with 11.14.3.1446 forge here :O
L1576[16:59:04] <Mimiru> 1.7, You couldn't pay me to use 1.8 :P
L1577[16:59:19] <shawniac> might it be the 1.7 -> 1.8 step that broke something?
L1578[16:59:25] <Mimiru> But the code is abstracted enough I wouldn't think it was a MC issue.
L1579[17:01:27] <shawniac> hmm
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L1581[17:06:07] <webchat> is there anyone there?=
L1582[17:06:26] <webchat> testing
L1583[17:07:02] <Mimiru> Nope
L1584[17:07:16] <gamax92> Please leave a message after the tone
L1585[17:07:18] <gamax92> beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
L1586[17:07:30] <webchat> Im I in opencomputer's room?
L1587[17:08:07] <gamax92> No, which is why every link in the topic totally doesn't point to a opencomputers website
L1588[17:09:22] <webchat> i'll keep testing
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L1590[17:09:35] <gamax92> >_>
L1591[17:09:38] <PotatoTrumpet> <_<
L1592[17:09:42] <gamax92> <_>
L1593[17:09:47] <PotatoTrumpet> >_<
L1594[17:09:58] <gamax92> (/>_>)/
L1595[17:10:05] <gamax92> \(<_<\)
L1596[17:10:26] <PotatoTrumpet> penis
L1597[17:10:34] <PotatoTrumpet> Well
L1598[17:10:37] <shawniac> well prep screenshot: http://chunk.io/f/694826f12c9a4a259c06f1abe9282418
L1599[17:10:51] <PotatoTrumpet> My dad just paved his way into a shitty nursing home when he gets older
L1600[17:11:34] <shawniac> actual thing: http://chunk.io/f/3f1f9c4ef70949bab2a4f32035aacad8
L1601[17:11:52] <CompanionCube> PotatoTrumpet: how
L1602[17:12:00] <shawniac> anyone spots something i might have made wrong? this looks exactly like what im supposed to do for me, and yet it doesnt read the fucking autostart.lua :c
L1603[17:12:21] <PotatoTrumpet> CompanionCube, for the past year, he has been an asshole 99% of the time
L1604[17:12:39] <PotatoTrumpet> to me and my sister
L1605[17:14:00] <gamax92> #lua 0x10000/0x200
L1606[17:14:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 128
L1607[17:14:09] <shawniac> Mimiru: shouldnt that print something when the harddrive gets inserted?
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L1609[17:16:36] <Mimiru> shawniac, it should, yes.. IDK open an issue on github
L1610[17:16:56] <PotatoTrumpet> Welcome back, webchat / dimon
L1611[17:17:17] <dimon> Im so lost :P
L1612[17:17:33] <PotatoTrumpet> Are you sure?
L1613[17:17:37] <Mimiru> ~webchat@3.85-87-220.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es
L1614[17:17:37] <Mimiru> vs
L1615[17:17:38] <Mimiru> ~dimon@3.85-87-220.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es
L1616[17:17:44] <Mimiru> Not hard. :P
L1617[17:17:47] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L1618[17:18:27] <dimon> just playing MC and testing some OpenComputers aplication for chat
L1619[17:18:43] <Mimiru> wocchat ftw.
L1620[17:18:52] <shawniac> i wondering why there is no issue yet, im having that problem since quite some time (never had that working actually) and PotatoTrumpet said he never grasped it too... weird :O
L1621[17:18:52] <Mimiru> irc from the lootdisk is. ok too :P
L1622[17:19:21] <Mimiru> autoruns have worked fine for me since I started using OC
L1623[17:19:23] <shawniac> ive never opened an issue before, anything i have to keep in mind? like tagging or sth?
L1624[17:19:27] <Mimiru> which was.... pretty early in.
L1625[17:19:33] <Mimiru> Nah
L1626[17:19:41] <Mimiru> Just be as descriptive as you can.
L1627[17:19:50] <dimon> So am i in the right place?
L1628[17:20:07] <shawniac> should i include those screens? (the first screen has my ALT+TAB accidentally recorded... :s)
L1629[17:20:07] <Mimiru> dimon, well this IS the opencomputers IRC channel, so I would assume yes?
L1630[17:20:10] <PotatoTrumpet> I think it would help if autorun.lua had more documantation
L1631[17:20:32] <Mimiru> PotatoTrumpet, how much documentation does it need? You make a autorun.lua on the root of the drive.... and then add code.
L1632[17:20:34] <dimon> cool
L1633[17:20:42] <shawniac> +1 on that, searching the wiki for autostart yields nothing, and that autostart tutorial under harddrive doesnt work for me so there is nothing i can debug :((
L1634[17:20:46] <Mimiru> I mean... it's just like any other lua script.
L1635[17:20:49] <dimon> just testing thing on creatrive mode
L1636[17:20:57] <PotatoTrumpet> Autorun is stupidly complex
L1637[17:21:01] <Mimiru> How?
L1638[17:21:10] <PotatoTrumpet> I've had it overright itse;f on different drives
L1639[17:21:13] <shawniac> if it doesnt work, how to tell what went wrong?
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L1642[17:21:24] <shawniac> you cannot check for errors or check if it properly gets read, thats it for me atleast
L1643[17:21:48] <Mimiru> Well, it'll throw errors if you screw up the lua IN the file... that's about the only errors there are.
L1644[17:21:55] <Mimiru> if it's not working at all, something else is wrong.
L1645[17:22:11] <shawniac> yeah but now im in such a edge case, what am i supposed to do :(
L1646[17:22:22] <shawniac> there is a debug card that shows its all fine, even if it isn't :s
L1647[17:22:27] <Mimiru> What that is? Yes, it's hard to tell... but autorun has worked with no issue for me in every version I've used.
L1648[17:22:36] <Mimiru> I've never tried 1.8 though, so IDK.
L1649[17:22:42] <shawniac> but if that possible bug is fixed, you're right there isnt much to document apart from that
L1650[17:22:49] <dimon> So, I can't get the hologram projector to work cause i don't understand very well it's documentation
L1651[17:23:47] <Mimiru> Wow, I just found out why I've been losing components on my Reactor/Power monitor, I had 3 blocks of cable outside of my chunkloader.
L1652[17:23:48] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L1653[17:23:57] <shawniac> is "bug-minor" the right label for this issue?
L1654[17:24:20] <Mimiru> Not sure, I usually just let Sangar label stuff.. heh
L1655[17:24:26] <Mimiru> the few times I've had to open an issue anyway
L1656[17:24:46] <shawniac> oh, you can change labels afterwards? (apart from having a git account, i never did anything :/)
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L1658[17:24:54] <Mimiru> yeah
L1659[17:25:10] <shawniac> then its not really that much to worry about anyways, can i even edit the text and everything? well then im just going to shoot it
L1660[17:25:26] <Mimiru> Yes, you can edit the text, the title etc
L1661[17:26:11] <shawniac> awesome
L1662[17:27:45] <Mimiru> sieghdo[ishgosgfiogf my Cisco 2950 keeps randomly rebooting.... this thing IS 16 years old.. I Shouldn't be surprised but it makes me sad.
L1663[17:28:02] <Mimiru> So if anyone said anything in the last minute ish, then I've missed it :P
L1664[17:29:32] <Mimiru> Wow I just realized I've had this switch for close to 10 years.
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L1666[17:31:41] * Mimiru stabs SuPeRMiNoR2
L1667[17:32:03] * PotatoTrumpet stabs SuPeRMiNoR2 for Mimiru
L1668[17:32:52] <Mimiru> He's playing Warframe, he may not respond :P
L1669[17:32:56] <PotatoTrumpet> hold on
L1670[17:33:00] <PotatoTrumpet> lemme message him on steam
L1671[17:33:11] <Mimiru> o_O I don't need him or anything
L1672[17:33:12] <Mimiru> lol
L1673[17:33:18] <Mimiru> I was just bugging him
L1674[17:34:37] <PotatoTrumpet> http://puu.sh/ip3xo/d2ec09f106.png
L1675[17:37:27] <vifino> Yaaay, random segfaults.
L1676[17:37:38] <PotatoTrumpet> vifino, wat
L1677[17:37:46] <vifino> PotatoTrumpet: i r coding
L1678[17:37:56] <PotatoTrumpet> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
L1679[17:37:57] <vifino> program randomly decides to segfault
L1680[17:38:03] <vifino> because why not.
L1681[17:38:06] <PotatoTrumpet> Define: egfau;lt
L1682[17:38:24] <vifino> (SIGSEGV) segmentation fault
L1683[17:38:25] <Mimiru> Error: egfau;ltnot found.
L1684[17:38:28] <vifino> Segfault.
L1685[17:38:36] <vifino> Very helpful, Mimiru.
L1686[17:38:39] * vifino tips fedora
L1687[17:38:44] <Mimiru> s/tno/t no
L1688[17:38:44] <Kibibyte> <Mimiru> Error: egfau;lt not found.
L1689[17:39:31] <vifino> eggfault.
L1690[17:39:35] <vifino> Yes, eggfault.
L1691[17:39:38] <vifino> That's it.
L1692[17:39:53] <Mimiru> ¬_¬ I have 27.64 Trillion RF stored... WTF am I going to do with this..
L1693[17:40:37] <Mimiru> And 30k Yellorium Ingots... I think I'm good for a day or two.
L1694[17:40:49] <vifino> Mimiru: Make a tesla coil and zap things? Build Google-sized DC's in MC? :D
L1695[17:41:22] <Mimiru> lol
L1696[17:42:08] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-06-14_17-41-53.png
L1697[17:43:48] <shawniac> what sorcery is that Mimiru?
L1698[17:43:57] <shawniac> how can you see all your stuff in a single windows? :O
L1699[17:44:05] <shawniac> s/windows/window
L1700[17:44:05] <Kibibyte> <shawniac> how can you see all your stuff in a single window? :O
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L1702[17:46:13] <dimon> I don't understand very well documentation for the hologram projector. I only could get it to work using the example code.
L1703[17:46:19] <Mimiru> q_q Cisco rebooted again.
L1704[17:46:27] <Mimiru> %p
L1705[17:46:30] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 2.12s
L1706[17:46:40] <gamax92> ds84182: you there?
L1707[17:48:50] <shawniac> repeating: what sorcery is that Mimiru?
L1708[17:48:54] <shawniac> how can you see all your stuff in a single window? :O
L1709[17:49:08] <Mimiru> shawniac?
L1710[17:49:15] <shawniac> yes?
L1711[17:49:33] <Mimiru> What do you mean? :P
L1712[17:49:48] <shawniac> how the fuck: http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-06-14_17-41-53.png
L1713[17:50:24] <Mimiru> That's my AE Terminal bottom button on the lefto f the terminal UI
L1714[17:50:28] <Mimiru> Terminal Style that is long
L1715[17:50:42] <Mimiru> s/o f/of/
L1716[17:50:43] <Kibibyte> <Mimiru> That's my AE Terminal bottom button on the leftof the terminal UI
L1717[17:50:47] <Mimiru> bleh
L1718[17:50:48] <Mimiru> w/e
L1719[17:50:54] <Mimiru> cba to fix that again.
L1720[17:51:24] <shawniac> AE? :O
L1721[17:51:30] <Mimiru> Yeah AE2 ftw.
L1722[17:51:36] <shawniac> like, what is AE
L1723[17:51:42] <shawniac> advanced electronics or sth?
L1724[17:51:52] <Mimiru> Applied Energistics
L1725[17:52:02] <Mimiru> http://ae-mod.info/
L1726[17:52:07] <Mimiru> no 1.8 version :P
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L1729[17:54:15] <Mimiru> But yeah, it lets you do autocrafting, mass item storage
L1730[17:54:18] <shawniac> what additional information would you include in a issue? i included a short text describing the issue, the two screens and a my mods + version + my os + my mc version, anything else?
L1731[17:54:44] <Mimiru> That should be fine, sangar will let you know if he needs anything else
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L1735[18:00:09] <Mimiru> UGH
L1736[18:00:11] <Mimiru> rebooted again
L1737[18:00:13] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L1738[18:01:41] <shawniac> is it me, or you're not leaving this channel even though your shit keeps restarting? :O
L1739[18:03:15] <Mimiru> I have a bouncer
L1740[18:03:18] <Mimiru> google ZNC :P
L1741[18:04:10] <gamax92> Mimiru: please kick alekso56
L1742[18:04:12] <gamax92> he is logging us
L1743[18:04:34] <shawniac> hmm... what is that worth if you still seem to lose the messages? :o
L1744[18:05:24] <shawniac> gamax92: wait what, is it forbidden that anyone notes stuff? i mean everyone could do it, you could not even prevent that if you wanted :O
L1745[18:06:34] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, and? why would it matter that someone is logging us
L1746[18:06:44] <gamax92> they are NSA
L1747[18:06:51] <wolfmitchell> and?
L1748[18:07:02] * gamax92 hides in tinfoil cardboard box
L1749[18:07:47] <shawniac> Mimiru: so?
L1750[18:08:19] <gamax92> I'm going to get get some pizza
L1751[18:08:26] <Mimiru> gamax92, I'm logging us, TotallyNotKatie is logging us, MichiBot is logging us.
L1752[18:08:42] <Mimiru> ffs Lizzy's bouncer (until she moved to the new server) was logging us AND reporting stats from it :P
L1753[18:09:25] <Mimiru> %p
L1754[18:09:26] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 0.41s
L1755[18:09:36] <Mimiru> K had to hotswap a cable to my gbit switch...
L1756[18:09:52] <Mimiru> now atleast when the old switch dies internet stays up for all but a few devices.
L1757[18:10:18] <Mimiru> Now I have to find a place for these 4 devices.
L1758[18:10:37] * gamax92 goes into secrets mode
L1759[18:10:40] <Mimiru> I was going to use my old 5 port switch but it uses some freak 3 pin power supply
L1760[18:10:43] <Mimiru> thanks Linksys
L1761[18:10:43] <gamax92> +OK jtpXE14AlD50Hwryd0hKGlM1
L1762[18:10:52] <gamax92> +OK Aui6y12Fy/V1kibbO/HTy.l/ihXjZ/oNJQ80Coqrw1OD6.p/zngLM14Gf49/
L1763[18:10:58] * Mimiru bans gamax92
L1764[18:11:05] <gamax92> pls no
L1765[18:11:24] <Mimiru> Do I look like Kenny? :P
L1766[18:11:36] <gamax92> +OK Fa.8410qiIc1
L1767[18:11:44] * Mimiru slaps gamax92 though
L1768[18:11:45] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L1769[18:12:35] <Mimiru> q_q my old wrt54g is brick.
L1770[18:13:05] <gamax92> did you kill it
L1771[18:13:14] <Mimiru> I wonder if this 4port router PCI card has windows 7 drivers
L1772[18:16:02] <Mimiru> Lets find out.
L1773[18:20:01] <shawniac> well i opened that issue, am still puzzled what the hell might be causing this, and ill be gone hoping for someone to ever read the issue :P see you guys
L1774[18:20:19] <gamax92> Sangar will read it
L1775[18:20:23] <gamax92> Sangar reads all issues
L1776[18:20:26] <Mimiru> Later o/ Sangar will read it ^
L1777[18:20:42] <shawniac> \o/ hail Sangar \o/
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L1779[18:21:35] <gamax92> uhh ...
L1780[18:21:50] <gamax92> Mimiru: is it just me, or is it autorun.lua and not autostart.lua :P
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L1782[18:23:59] <Mimiru> ¬_¬ I didn't even notice shawniac was saying autostart... everything I said WAS autorun though
L1783[18:24:14] <gamax92> Yeah I didn't notice either
L1784[18:24:18] <gamax92> until i saw it in the screenshots
L1785[18:24:25] <Mimiru> Yeaaah
L1786[18:24:35] <Mimiru> I gotta admit I didn't look ultra close at the screenshots.
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L1788[18:27:41] <Mimiru> q_q
L1789[18:27:48] <Mimiru> Well I guess my PCI Router doesn't work
L1790[18:32:35] <rashy> =o
L1791[18:32:58] <Inari> PCI slots have routers now?
L1792[18:35:49] <Mimiru> Inari, https://www.roc-noc.com/mikrotik/routerboard/rb44gv.html
L1793[18:35:54] <Mimiru> Sorta like that
L1794[18:35:56] <Mimiru> but... older
L1795[18:38:56] <Inari> was wondering if it means ar outer put into pci slots or a router for pci slots :p
L1796[18:39:43] <rashy> technically just an ethernet adapter, but can be used as a router
L1797[18:41:59] <Mimiru> it doesn't even show up in windows...
L1798[18:42:07] <Mimiru> I'm wondering if something is wrong with it
L1799[18:42:29] <rashy> drivers, perhaps?
L1800[18:43:04] <rashy> -shrug-
L1801[18:43:13] <Mimiru> No, it doesn't even show up as unknown
L1802[18:43:15] <Mimiru> just... nothing
L1803[18:43:21] <rashy> hm
L1804[18:44:02] <Inari> wonder if a router for pci slots if possible
L1805[18:46:01] <Mimiru> ¬_¬ http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-06-14_18-45-55.png lolol
L1806[18:46:15] <rashy> ew
L1807[18:46:31] <Mimiru> it's been in my list forever...
L1808[18:46:38] <rashy> xD
L1809[18:46:41] <Mimiru> Got it free with one of my video cards.
L1810[18:46:46] <rashy> :p
L1811[18:47:03] <Mimiru> either the 9600 GT or the GTX 260
L1812[18:47:08] <rashy> picked up BL:pre-sequel and watch dogs, been meaning to. yay for sales.
L1813[18:47:24] <Mimiru> Sadly I won't have money until next weekish
L1814[18:47:26] <Mimiru> so.. :(
L1815[18:47:29] <rashy> :(
L1816[19:12:21] <Mimiru> Hmmm... how can I return a lua table from a callback
L1817[19:17:36] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-06-14_19-16-39.png like that lol
L1818[19:17:42] <gamax92> Mimiru: HashMap?
L1819[19:18:12] <vifino> Night.
L1820[19:18:15] <vifino> \o
L1821[19:18:57] <Mimiru> night vifino
L1822[19:19:13] <Mimiru> gamax92, ArrayList
L1823[19:22:37] <gamax92> Mimiru: ?
L1824[19:22:57] <Mimiru> public List<String> alarmsConfigList = new ArrayList<String>();
L1825[19:23:22] <gamax92> and returning that doesn't work? :P
L1826[19:23:39] <Mimiru> Erm.. it does..?
L1827[19:23:44] <Mimiru> [19:17:38] <@Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-06-14_19-16-39.png like that lol
L1828[19:23:56] <gamax92> ._. then why are you asking
L1829[19:24:20] <Mimiru> I asked, then got it working 5 minutes later, when I actually did it.
L1830[19:24:43] <gamax92> oh, i didn't look at timestamp
L1831[19:24:48] <Mimiru> heh
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L1847[22:21:45] <PotatoTrumpet> Apparently making germany a Police state with no freedoms gets you Assassiniated
L1848[22:23:29] <PotatoTrumpet> Incase you didn't know
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L1851[22:38:08] <Ditchbuster> anyone know where the ModLoader class is? or how do i properly register an entity in 1.8
L1852[22:39:46] <Mimiru> mod loader support was pulled from forge back in 1.6
L1853[22:39:53] <Mimiru> now you just have a annotation in your main class
L1854[22:40:10] <Mimiru> eg @Mod(modid = OpenSecurity.MODID, name = "OpenSecurity", version = BuildInfo.versionNumber + "." + BuildInfo.buildNumber, dependencies = "required-after:OpenComputers")
L1855[22:40:14] <Ditchbuster> ahh then why does everyone still have it in their 1.8 tutorials
L1856[22:40:26] <Ditchbuster> i need the ModLoader.getUniqueEntityId()
L1857[22:40:32] <Mimiru> make sure it's 1.8, and not alpha 1.8 :P
L1858[22:40:45] <Mimiru> Yeah... not happening in anything later then mid 1.6
L1859[22:40:47] <dangranos> hi
L1860[22:41:01] <Ditchbuster> then how do you properly set the id?
L1861[22:41:18] <Ditchbuster> just make one up?
L1862[22:41:24] <dangranos> Ditchbuster, **DELETE META-INF**
L1863[22:41:50] <Ditchbuster> hm ok?
L1864[22:42:02] <dangranos> ._.
L1865[22:42:05] <dangranos> that was a joke
L1866[22:42:36] <Mimiru> Ditchbuster, I'm not sure I've not done anything with entities
L1867[22:42:47] <Mimiru> But there are no Modloader.* classes anymore.
L1868[22:43:30] <Ditchbuster> ok thanks.. i guess i will just make an ID up
L1869[22:43:39] * dangranos always like "unpack into minecraft.jar" instruction for mods when he had modloader
L1870[22:43:51] <Ditchbuster> dangranos, im glad it took me too long to find it other wise i probably would
L1871[22:44:25] <Mimiru> Ditchbuster, int entityID = EntityRegistry.findGlobalUniqueEntityId();
L1872[22:44:39] <Ditchbuster> ahhh thanks Mimiru !
L1873[22:44:42] <Mimiru> EntityRegistry.registerGlobalEntityID(entityClass, name, entityID);
L1874[22:44:42] <Mimiru> EntityRegistry.registerModEntity(entityClass, name, entityID, instance, 64, 1, true);
L1875[22:44:45] <Mimiru> That's 1.7
L1876[22:44:50] <Mimiru> IDK if it's still true for 1.8
L1877[22:45:13] <Ditchbuster> ive been trying to read the OC code but i don't really understand scala
L1878[22:46:01] <Mimiru> woot, I now have to swip an MagCard to get into my base.
L1879[22:46:04] <Ditchbuster> yea i am using redigerGlobalEntityID
L1880[22:46:23] <dangranos> Mimiru, own magcard?
L1881[22:46:24] <Ditchbuster> but the entityID i dont know where to get, properly
L1882[22:46:39] <Ditchbuster> i guess ill just make one up for now until i learn more!
L1883[22:46:40] <Mimiru> dangranos, yeah, the MagCard from OpenSecurity \o/
L1884[22:46:47] <Mimiru> int entityID = EntityRegistry.findGlobalUniqueEntityId();
L1885[22:46:48] <Mimiru> seriously :P
L1886[22:46:56] <Mimiru> In theory that'll work in 1.8
L1887[22:47:38] <Ditchbuster> ok! i feel stupid now.. ive been trying to figure it out for a couple hours
L1888[22:47:45] <Ditchbuster> before coming to ask
L1889[22:48:50] <Ditchbuster> i was getting close.. i was digging in the fml.common stuff
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L1897[23:19:27] <dangranos> playing with that cubic chunks mod
L1898[23:21:45] <dangranos> awesome redstone bugs y<0
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L1900[23:26:11] <TotallyNotKatie> %sed enable
L1901[23:26:12] <MichiBot> TotallyNotKatie: Enabled SED for this channel
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L1904[23:39:06] <Jarcode> join #oc
L1905[23:39:10] <Jarcode> derp
L1906[23:39:41] <wolfmitchell> ...
L1907[23:39:44] <wolfmitchell> ohi Jarcode
L1908[23:39:45] <wolfmitchell> lol
L1909[23:40:43] <Jarcode> wat
L1910[23:40:51] <wolfmitchell> lol
L1911[23:40:57] <Jarcode> pls
L1912[23:41:00] <wolfmitchell> i'm in here and a million other channels on esper
L1913[23:41:23] <wolfmitchell> Jarcode, http://i.imgur.com/rTgZGV2.png
L1914[23:41:34] <wolfmitchell> kaffenet is the network where the MC serer relays too
L1915[23:41:38] <wolfmitchell> s/oo/o/
L1916[23:41:39] <Jarcode> windows
L1917[23:41:41] <Jarcode> scrub
L1918[23:41:49] <wolfmitchell> Jarcode, as i said, dad forces me to into windows on craptop
L1919[23:42:03] <Jarcode> install a linux ZVM
L1920[23:42:05] <Jarcode> VM*
L1921[23:42:27] <wolfmitchell> Jarcode, >pentium >linux vm
L1922[23:42:28] <wolfmitchell> k
L1923[23:42:36] * wolfmitchell ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.0 (x86) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium ** CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B950 @ 2.10GHz (2.00 GHz) ** RAM: 4043 MB Total (1024 MB Free) ** VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family ** Uptime: 469.32 Hours **
L1924[23:42:47] <wolfmitchell> good luck hosting any VM on there
L1925[23:43:20] <Jarcode> pfft
L1926[23:43:28] <Jarcode> I can host a VM on a Pentium processor
L1927[23:43:30] <gamax92> wolfmitchell: I've ran a vm on my netbook, much worse stats than that
L1928[23:43:31] <gamax92> scrub
L1929[23:43:35] <wolfmitchell> i've tried it
L1930[23:43:39] <gamax92> so have i
L1931[23:43:40] <gamax92> ran fine
L1932[23:43:43] <Jarcode> wolf
L1933[23:43:44] <wolfmitchell> it took me around half hour to boot into minimal debian install
L1934[23:43:44] <Jarcode> is lie
L1935[23:43:45] <wolfmitchell> ok
L1936[23:43:58] <wolfmitchell> and it murdered my battery
L1937[23:44:01] <Jarcode> that's your problem bro
L1938[23:44:07] <Jarcode> not using glorious arch linux
L1939[23:44:13] <wolfmitchell> s/arch/debian
L1940[23:44:14] <wolfmitchell> m8
L1941[23:44:21] <Jarcode> m9
L1942[23:44:26] <wolfmitchell> m10
L1943[23:44:26] <Jarcode> m(n + 1)
L1944[23:44:30] <wolfmitchell> m(1/0)
L1945[23:45:05] <gamax92> mnan
L1946[23:45:11] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, oh ok
L1947[23:45:18] <wolfmitchell> in lua, 1/0=inf
L1948[23:45:18] <wolfmitchell> so
L1949[23:45:30] <gamax92> thats cool, i wasn't answering that
L1950[23:45:33] <gamax92> scrub
L1951[23:45:37] <wolfmitchell> lel
L1952[23:45:39] <Jarcode> m(lim[h->0] (((x + h)^2 - x^2)/h))
L1953[23:45:46] <wolfmitchell> Jarcode, wat
L1954[23:45:56] <Jarcode> do you even limit of newton's quotient
L1955[23:46:00] <wolfmitchell> no
L1956[23:46:01] <wolfmitchell> :D
L1957[23:46:04] <Jarcode> bruh
L1958[23:46:06] <Jarcode> you don't calc
L1959[23:46:09] <gamax92> scrub*
L1960[23:46:16] <wolfmitchell> i just finished algebra 2
L1961[23:46:21] <wolfmitchell> (with a barely passing grade)
L1962[23:46:28] <Jarcode> wow
L1963[23:46:32] <Jarcode> no wonder why you write Lua
L1964[23:46:37] <Jarcode> (BURNED)
L1965[23:46:39] <wolfmitchell> i have terrible work ethic when it comes to school
L1966[23:46:46] <wolfmitchell> so
L1967[23:46:55] <wolfmitchell> it's not fun so i just don't do half the work
L1968[23:47:03] <wolfmitchell> and when the end of the semester comes around, i'm screwed
L1969[23:47:03] <wolfmitchell> :D
L1970[23:47:23] <gamax92> wolfmitchell: You could have called this game, bird vs camel, and no one would have argued with you
L1971[23:47:34] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, hm?
L1972[23:47:42] <Jarcode> hmm
L1973[23:47:51] <gamax92> wolfmitchell: Tap A quickly, to not die as fast!
L1974[23:48:01] <wolfmitchell> ok
L1975[23:48:01] <wolfmitchell> a
L1976[23:48:17] <gamax92> Cobras, rats, chefs and bats
L1977[23:48:37] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, are you drunk
L1978[23:48:47] <gamax92> wolfmitchell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9DKoMSiDc4
L1979[23:48:48] <MichiBot> gamax92: Titenic: The JonSong (Ft. Schmoyoho) | length 3m 40s | Likes: 74406 Dislikes: 1185 Views: 1356617 | by JonTronShow
L1980[23:48:54] <wolfmitchell> Jarcode, also, git back on ts
L1981[23:48:54] <wolfmitchell> kek
L1982[23:50:05] <gamax92> wolfmitchell: Can't forget the flying eggplant
L1983[23:50:22] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, youtube requires me to have a browser open ._.
L1984[23:50:30] <gamax92> wolfmitchell: then get youtube-dl
L1985[23:50:42] <wolfmitchell> but that requires me having a browser open at one point
L1986[23:50:54] <wolfmitchell> and i'm lazy
L1987[23:51:02] <gamax92> not if you know where the file is
L1988[23:51:17] <wolfmitchell> ok and how would i fetch it without a browser
L1989[23:51:28] <gamax92> wolfmitchell: command line
L1990[23:51:41] <wolfmitchell> and how would i do it on windows...
L1991[23:52:23] <gamax92> wolfmitchell: run edit from the command line, write a program in vbs to download a file, then run in csscript
L1992[23:52:40] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, tl;dr wolfmitchell has encountered a fatal error (laziness)
L1993[23:53:06] <gamax92> plus i think powershell can do it very simpe
L1994[23:53:18] <wolfmitchell> >implying i bothered to learn powershell
L1995[23:53:36] <wolfmitchell> i mean yes i'm trying to get windows certs because a tiny percentage of nearby companies use linux
L1996[23:53:44] <wolfmitchell> but that doesn't mean i'm learning powershell
L1997[23:53:51] <gamax92> learn powershell
L1998[23:54:06] <wolfmitchell> i need a browser for that
L1999[23:54:48] <gamax92> btw the best powershell command is powershell "Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Remove-AppxPackage"
L2000[23:54:57] <wolfmitchell> how about no
L2001[23:54:58] <wolfmitchell> lel
L2002[23:55:07] <wolfmitchell> actually
L2003[23:55:14] * wolfmitchell looks at windows vm that needs reinstalling anyway
L2004[23:55:17] <wolfmitchell> it's kinda on vista
L2005[23:55:26] <gamax92> that's for 8 and 10
L2006[23:55:29] <wolfmitchell> oh ok
L2007[23:55:34] <wolfmitchell> i have neither
L2008[23:55:41] <wolfmitchell> like, not phys or virt
L2009[23:55:44] <gamax92> i have no idea what that'd do on 7 and below besides complain
L2010[23:55:58] <Jarcode> you scrubs
L2011[23:56:04] <Jarcode> TempleOS
L2012[23:56:07] <Jarcode> is life
L2013[23:56:38] <wolfmitchell> gamax92, do you know what we really need here
L2014[23:56:42] <wolfmitchell> we really need
L2015[23:56:44] <wolfmitchell> COMPETITIVE
L2016[23:56:44] <gamax92> for Jarcode to go away
L2017[23:56:45] <wolfmitchell> NOTEPAD
L2018[23:56:49] <gamax92> oh
L2019[23:57:18] * gamax92 gives Jarcode とあるOS
L2020[23:57:50] <Jarcode> wat
L2021[23:57:57] <wolfmitchell> lol
L2022[23:57:57] <Jarcode> I'm sorry I don't jap
L2023[23:58:05] <wolfmitchell> i don't have utf8 enabled
L2024[23:58:05] <wolfmitchell> :D
L2025[23:58:13] <wolfmitchell> now i do
L2026[23:58:16] <wolfmitchell> [00:58:10] Charset changed to: utf8
L2027[23:58:16] <wolfmitchell> [00:58:14] <wolfmitchell> now i do
L2028[23:58:17] <wolfmitchell> lel
L2029[23:58:48] <gamax92> oh
L2030[23:58:51] <gamax92> wolfmitchell: "とあるOS"
L2031[23:59:47] <wolfmitchell> Jarcode, i'm waiting for you to realise i've been shooting chickens at you in MC
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