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L36[04:25:37] * Evey
yawns
L37[04:26:10] *
DeanIsaKitty hands Evey some coffee
L39[04:26:23] * Evey
drinks coffee and thanks DeanIsaKitty
L40[04:26:53] *
DeanIsaKitty responds with a 'you are most welcome'
L41[04:31:27] * Evey
pets DeanIsaKitty
L42[04:32:17] *
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L44[04:34:36] <Izaya> I'm going to go back
in time
L45[04:34:43] <Izaya> and I'm going to
murder Steve Jobs
L46[04:34:52] <Izaya> why the fuck do I
need allen keys to remove a power supply?
L47[04:35:03] <Evey> Izaya: please don't
create a paradox
L48[04:35:14] <Izaya> fear not
L49[04:35:15] <Izaya> if I do
L50[04:35:19] <Izaya> you won't exist
either
L52[04:35:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Because Apple
hates People playing with their hardware Izaya :P
L53[04:35:49] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, joke's
on them - I own an allen key set
L54[04:35:58] <Izaya> got a GTX 285 Mac
Edition though
L55[04:36:00] <Izaya> that's damn
nice
L56[04:36:19] <Izaya> much nicer than the
GT220 I have now, anyway
L57[04:36:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Jokes
on you, you just voided your warranty ;P
L58[04:36:46] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, joke's
on you, it was dead anyway
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L60[04:37:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Jokes
on you - so is the hardware, probably. (I mean its apple)
L61[04:37:39] <Izaya> the power supply and
motherboard are apparently dead
L62[04:37:45] <Evey> Jokes on you, I have a
vortex manipulator
L63[04:37:46] <Izaya> so I'm gonna steal
the RAM and xeons
L64[04:38:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Evey: Joke's
on you - I am a cat
L65[04:38:23] <Evey> Jokes on you *pets
DeanIsaKitty*
L66[04:38:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Evey: Joke's
on you *bites Hand*
L67[04:39:15] <Evey> Ahhh bad kitty
L68[04:39:22] * Evey
scolds DeanIsaKitty
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L70[04:41:11] <Izaya> so uh
L71[04:41:20] <Izaya> can I run a GPU with
only one of the aux power connectors?
L72[04:41:45] <nxsupert_> o/
L73[04:41:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: It may
die of starvation but it may be ok. Depends on how power hungry it
is
L74[04:41:58] <Evey> Izaya: probably
not
L75[04:42:19] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, what
about if I underclock the fuck out of it?
L76[04:42:25] <Izaya> not like it can be
worse than a 220
L77[04:42:40] <Izaya> because I can't get a
second aux power connector till friday
L78[04:43:14] <DeanIsaKitty> If it even
starts you are good to go as long as you keep load small
L79[04:43:38] <Izaya> I'll wait till
friday
L80[04:43:48] <Izaya> then upgrade my power
supply and use the molex -> aux power adaptor
L81[04:43:57] <Izaya> (1 on PSU, 1 on
molex)
L82[04:45:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Syntax
checker freaking out on vim = 1 min startup time. xD
L83[04:46:41] <Izaya> sgg
L84[04:46:45] <Izaya> gg*
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L88[04:58:15] <Lizzy> Ohai Evey
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L90[04:58:21] <Lizzy> How are you?
L91[04:58:29] <Evey> Good good, you?
L92[04:58:51] <Lizzy> I'm doing well, just
whipping computers into complying with AV policies
L93[04:58:57] <Evey> Sounds fun
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L96[05:03:16] <dangranos> so, that admin
answered
L97[05:03:39] <Lizzy> that one with all the
joins and parts i saw in my scroll back?
L98[05:03:44] <dangranos> "ofc they
render on client but server still has to transfer data to
client"
L101[05:05:32] <dangranos> and nerfed
prints
L102[05:05:59] <Lizzy> that admin just
sounds really stupid
L103[05:06:50] <Vexatos> Who is Evey
D:
L104[05:07:00] <Evey> I am me!
L105[05:07:01] <dangranos> "from 3
gravel blocks you could print house with blocks of any shape,
texture and abilities (could have translated wrong)"
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L107[05:07:16] <Lizzy> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L108[05:07:32] <Vexatos> dangranos, tell
the admin that a hopper has to send the data every tick, the print
only when you enter the area
L109[05:07:49] <Vexatos> and chests
too
L110[05:08:02] <dangranos> "ticking
blocks" that's called?
L111[05:08:29] <Vexatos> Well, anything
that ticks affects the server. Prints do not tick
L112[05:08:41] <Vexatos> But prints also
have no TESRs like chests
L113[05:08:44] <dangranos> so, that admin
answered in big, bold AND red text
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L115[05:08:55] <Vexatos> and TESRs are the
type of renderer being particularly bad on the client side
L116[05:09:08] <Vexatos> but that doesn't
affect the server side at all
L117[05:09:29] <dangranos> "they
render on client but server still has to transfer data to
client"
L118[05:09:30] <Vexatos> sooo, basically,
any ticking tileentity affects the server and sends data every few
ticks/every tick
L119[05:09:37] <Vexatos> send data to the
client*
L120[05:09:51] <Vexatos> prints only ever
send data when their state changes (redstone signal) or you enter
the area
L121[05:10:00] <dangranos> well, i am bad
with russian<>english translation
L122[05:10:20] <Vexatos> dangranos,
basically, it sends as much data to the client as a block of stone
does
L123[05:10:32] <Vexatos> and as often as a
block of stone does, too
L124[05:10:41] <dangranos> on chunk
load?
L125[05:10:57] <Vexatos> When the client
enters the area and the chunk gets loaded, yes
L126[05:11:23] <Vexatos> if the print has
states, it will also send data on redstone signal, like a
trapdoor
L127[05:11:51] <Vexatos> Soo best case
it's as laggy as a block of stone, worst case it's as laggy as a
trapdoor
L128[05:12:03] <Vexatos> and definitely
far less laggy than any ticking TE
L129[05:12:05] <Vexatos> like
hoppers
L130[05:12:33] <dangranos> hm, there is
also that "i'll give more chamelium (pieces) if you'll print
good model" "idea of 3D printer isnt to fill the map with
prints but to allow player to lear how to do it"
L131[05:13:00] <Vexatos> so what
L132[05:13:19] <Vexatos> you can't learn
how to use printers with sunnarium (is it?) and iridium
L133[05:13:53] <Vexatos> Again, in most of
the cases it is about as laggy as a block of stone
L134[05:14:08] <Vexatos> Both in terms of
server lag as in terms of data sent to the client
L135[05:14:25] <dangranos> yeah, he
justified that saying that there is kit with free iridium and
sunnarium
L136[05:15:29] <Vexatos> ...
L137[05:16:12] <dangranos> iirc it's once
in 2 days and contains 1 iridium and 10 sunnarium pieces
L138[05:16:23] <Vexatos> well
L139[05:17:11] <Vexatos> dangranos, then
he should make stone and wood equally expensive
L140[05:17:19] <dangranos> and there was
something about "researches"
L141[05:17:20] <Vexatos> because he
definitely can't justify it with lag
L142[05:17:33] <Vexatos>
whatsearches?
L143[05:17:50] <dangranos> sorry,
mistranslated
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L145[05:18:44] <dangranos> well that
"you need to get to such technologies level"
L146[05:18:44] <nxsupert_> o/
L147[05:18:51] <dangranos> hi \o
L148[05:18:58] <Vexatos> dangranos, you do
need to get a computer to be able to make prints
L149[05:19:01] <Vexatos> but how expensive
is one?
L150[05:19:43] <dangranos> as for planks
Vexatos, he "*facepalm smile* ^10" when someone said that
he should make Carpenter's Blocks equally priced
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L152[05:20:10] <dangranos> o/
L153[05:21:12] <Vexatos> o_o
L154[05:21:40] <Vexatos> dangranos, oh,
yeah, Capenter's blocks are a LOT more laggy than prints
L155[05:22:13] <dangranos> "but
carpenter's block still require that block for a
texture"
L156[05:22:16] <nxsupert_> So everything
that requires a tiny bit more render time is super expensive?
L157[05:22:28] <Vexatos> dangranos, yes,
but prints require dye and chamelium and power
L158[05:22:30] <Inari> nxsupert_: nah, but
it scales worse :P
L159[05:22:40] <Vexatos> the larger the
print, the more of each
L160[05:22:53] <dangranos> Vexatos, he
multiplied rates of chamelium, dye and power required
L161[05:22:54] <Vexatos> so comple prints
require much more chamelium, power and dye than small ones
L162[05:22:56] <Vexatos> complex*
L163[05:23:06] <dangranos> by 10
iirc
L164[05:23:12] *
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L165[05:23:40] <Inari> well dye and
chamelium are both automatable depending on your modpack
L166[05:24:32] <dangranos> iirc he wanted
to nuke autocraft mod (AE2) because "even idiot can setup the
(autocraft) system"
L167[05:24:49] <Inari> you have Oc
apparenlty
L168[05:24:50] <dangranos> is there
#mcdrama?
L169[05:24:51] <Inari> its an autocraft
mod
L170[05:24:52] <Inari> :D
L171[05:25:03] <dangranos> Inari, that was
another his argument
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L173[05:25:20] <dangranos> countered by
lack of autocraft programs
L174[05:25:28] <Inari> write some?
L175[05:29:32] <Vexatos> dangranos, of
course you can automate it
L176[05:29:41] <Sandra> who is this guy
geeez.
L177[05:29:43] <Vexatos> but you can also
automate a device placing infinite amounts of cobblestone
L178[05:29:58] <Vexatos> which would be
much worse for a server than any wall of prints
L179[05:30:16] <Vexatos> and you can do
THAT without autocrafting
L180[05:30:41] *
Sandra feels like killing this guy.
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L183[05:31:41] <nxsupert_> :P
L184[05:31:59] <Vexatos> imminent murder
in T -3 .... 2...
L185[05:32:41] <Inari> Sandra: what
for?
L186[05:33:02] <Sandra> because they're
being stupid.
L187[05:33:06] <Sandra> obviously.
L188[05:33:11] <Sandra> I murder stupid
people.
L189[05:33:19] <Inari> how are they being
stupid?
L190[05:33:29] <Inari> they might just
prefer a bit more cahllenge in their MC play
L191[05:33:47] <Sandra> yes, I'm
completely for that.
L192[05:33:52] <Lizzy> Have you not been
paying attention to this chat?
L193[05:33:53] <Sandra> it's.... just
eh.
L194[05:33:59] <Sandra> yeah.
L195[05:34:11] <Izaya> Sandra, can I write
android apps in Scala?
L196[05:34:13] <Vexatos> Inari, challenge
!= sunnarium for one piece of chamelium
L197[05:34:18] <Sandra> Izaya, I don't
know.
L198[05:34:25] <Izaya> oh.
L199[05:34:27] <Inari> Vexatos: well that
up to them
L200[05:34:31] <Vexatos> No
L201[05:34:35] <Inari> yes?
L202[05:34:35] <Izaya> seemed like it was
up your alley
L203[05:34:36] <Sandra> I believe the
answer is yes, but I can't be fucked to set it up.
L204[05:34:37] <Izaya> but okay
L205[05:34:43] <Vexatos> FYI, sunnarium is
pretty much the most expensive thing in Minecraft ever
L206[05:34:54] <Vexatos> and iridium one
of the rarest ores ever
L207[05:35:04] <Sandra> sunnarium is what
exactly?
L208[05:35:07] <Inari> if they want it
that way, its within their right to have it that way, given that
they seem to be the servers admin or owner, or modpack editor
L209[05:35:18] <Vexatos> Sandra, from the
GraviSuit mod
L210[05:35:29] <Sandra> how is it
obtained?
L211[05:35:35] <Vexatos> requires insane
amounts of power and a VERY long time to collect enough sun energy
to create one
L212[05:35:38] <Vexatos> a special
machine
L213[05:35:53] <Inari> you might not like
it, but hey, i also dont like gregtech and lots of ppl like
htat
L214[05:35:53] <Inari> :P
L215[05:36:02] <Vexatos> That's not
gregtech
L216[05:36:13] <Vexatos> I like
gregtech
L217[05:36:21] <Vexatos> that's not
gregtech, that's insane
L218[05:36:32] <Inari> it was an example
of "just cause someone likes something you dont like, doesnt
make them wrong/stupid" :p
L219[05:36:38] <Vexatos> this does
L220[05:36:46] <Vexatos> Not because of
what they are doing
L221[05:36:51] <Vexatos> but because of
why they are doing it
L222[05:36:56] <Vexatos> claiming it would
lag the server
L223[05:37:06] <Vexatos> when a print is
lagging as much as a block of stone
L224[05:37:09] <Inari> well then the
reason is stupid, yeah :P
L225[05:37:18] <Vexatos> Just read. the.
damn. chat log
L226[05:37:35] <Inari> Vexatos: not
everyone is on bouncers :P
L227[05:37:37] <Sandra> a print is
literally a trapdoor or a lever.
L228[05:37:42] <Sandra> that's ALL it
is.
L229[05:37:51] <Vexatos> Oh yes, worst
case it is as laggy as a lever
L230[05:38:19] <Inari> good to kno wthough
:P i plan to use prints a lot
L231[05:39:46] <Inari> i hope prints are
optimized... in that, the data for 2 of the same prints is stored
only once
L232[05:40:07] <Vexatos> Inari, stored
once per block of course
L233[05:40:11] <Vexatos> it's stored in
NBT data
L234[05:40:13] <Inari> ~.~
L235[05:40:15] <Sandra> well 2 of the same
prints stack.
L236[05:40:20] <Vexatos> Yes
L237[05:40:27] <Inari> Sandra: stacks dont
stack inworld
L238[05:40:34] <Sandra> well no.
L239[05:40:37] <Inari> Vexatos: sounds
like wasting memory, but ohwell
L240[05:40:43] <Vexatos> How is it?
L241[05:40:46] <Vexatos> Every hopper has
more NBT data
L242[05:40:49] <Vexatos> than a
print
L243[05:40:58] <Inari> hoppers usually
arent around in thousands
L244[05:41:14] <Inari> and well if you
have 500 of the same exact print
L245[05:41:15] <Vexatos> Every cable from
any mod has more
L246[05:41:16] <Sandra> it's not that much
NBT data.
L247[05:41:16] <Inari> you can store that
data once
L248[05:41:20] <Vexatos> no you can
not
L249[05:41:24] <Inari> yes you can
L250[05:41:24] <Sandra> no.
L251[05:41:26] <Vexatos> no.
L252[05:41:26] <Sandra> you can't.
L253[05:41:29] <Vexatos> Do you even
minecraft
L254[05:41:39] <Sandra> Inari, you submit
a PR to fix it then.
L255[05:41:51] <nxsupert_> Do you think
anyone will ever write a LUA program more than 10,000 lines long
for OC?
L256[05:41:55] <Vexatos> Lua*
L257[05:41:56] <Inari> nah im not touching
forge :P
L258[05:42:04] <Vexatos> Inari, then stop
complaining
L259[05:42:21] <Inari> are you trying to
pull a "do it better or stop compalining" card?
L260[05:42:27] <Sandra> yes.
L261[05:42:32] <Inari> heh.
L262[05:42:40] <Vexatos> Because that's
how it is
L263[05:42:54] <Vexatos> you complain
about something that is a) not an issue and b) not improvable
L264[05:43:00] <Inari> anyway, central
storage of prints, each block logs an id to the print in its
nbt
L265[05:43:11] <Vexatos> If you don't know
about the internals of Minecraft, stop complaining about
"inefficiency"
L266[05:43:13] <nxsupert_> Tbf Lex can be
scary some times.
L267[05:43:23] <Sandra> I'm trying to get
android studio to be capable of making a project that's not a
android app.
L268[05:43:30] <Vexatos> Inari, and how is
the printer supposed to know which ID gets assigned to the new
print?
L269[05:43:31] <Sandra> I just had to
disable the android module.
L270[05:43:58] <Inari> Vexatos: well if
the 2 prints are unique they'd get the same hash, use hash as id
would be easiest :p
L271[05:44:01] <Inari> *are the same
L272[05:44:03] <Inari> not unique
<.<
L273[05:44:08] <Vexatos> ...
L274[05:44:10] <Vexatos> ......
L275[05:44:13] <Vexatos> do you even
java?
L276[05:44:18] <Inari> hm?
L277[05:44:22] <Vexatos> the hash is the
same until you restart Minecraft
L278[05:44:29] <Vexatos> then it's
completely different
L279[05:44:40] <Inari> hash, being a hash
calculated from the model
L280[05:45:01] <Sandra> well, you could
assign the ID when the printer is given a model, and then
printed.
L281[05:45:08] <Vexatos> So you would
store a hash value rather than the model in NBT? And what if you
destroy all the prints, then the data would still be there
L282[05:45:10] <Sandra> and reset the ID
when the model is changed.
L283[05:45:27] <Sandra> but additional
prints get the same id.
L284[05:45:41] <Vexatos> That sounds so
much not worth the effort
L285[05:45:42] <Inari> destroying is the
most issue i ugess, but hey, its still less data with that than
otherwise
L286[05:45:58] <Vexatos> Less data, yes,
but still less efficient
L287[05:46:01] <Sandra> yeah, tbh.
L288[05:46:03] <Vexatos> as you'd have to
manually write to files
L289[05:46:10] <Vexatos> which is much
slower than saving everything in NBT
L290[05:46:11] <Sandra> it's not that much
NBT Data.
L291[05:46:15] <Vexatos> ^ that
L292[05:46:15] <Inari> only on creating
the model frist
L293[05:46:23] <Sandra> it'd just be a
piece of data per cuboid.
L294[05:46:46] <Inari> how much
data?
L295[05:46:53] <Sandra> so it'd take up
like.... maybe 200 bytes per model.
L296[05:47:02] <Inari> thats a lot
L297[05:47:06] <Vexatos> no
L298[05:47:09] <Sandra> maximum.
L299[05:47:15] <Vexatos> That is not a
lot
L300[05:47:17] <Vexatos> at all
L301[05:47:22] <Sandra> that's not much at
all.
L302[05:47:30] <Vexatos> every item with a
custom name
L303[05:47:33] <Vexatos> renamed in an
anvil
L304[05:47:35] <Vexatos> has much
more
L305[05:47:46] <Inari> thats 58kb for a
single house
L306[05:47:50] <Sandra> (I don't know the
format.)
L307[05:47:51] <Inari> 9x9 hosue
L308[05:47:58] <Sandra> 58kb is sooo
much.
L309[05:48:03] <Vexatos> OMG 58 kB
L310[05:48:05] <Vexatos> D:
L311[05:48:19] <Vexatos> My Commodore 64 I
run Minecraft on is running out of memory!
L312[05:49:03] <Vexatos> Inari, you have
no idea how minecraft works internally, please, just shut up. You
have no clue what's efficient and useful and what's not
>_>
L313[05:49:05] <Inari> and here people, we
see why modern MC is terribad in performance
L314[05:49:07] <Sandra> seriously a chunk
in minecraft is more than that.
L315[05:49:25] <Sandra> ONE CHUNK.
L316[05:49:42] <Inari> Sandra: good
L317[05:49:54] <Sandra> relax man.
L318[05:49:58] <Sandra> it's not an
issue.
L319[05:50:06] <Vexatos> Inari, if you are
concerned about that stuff, never play modded MC ever again and
remove hoppers and chests from Vanilla
L320[05:50:09] <Vexatos> then you will be
good
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L322[05:50:26] <Inari> Vexatos: well not
like vanilla itself is any good in that area either :P
L323[05:50:31] <Vexatos> as chests have
farm more than that, as they store the NBT data of every item
inside them
L324[05:50:41] <Vexatos> and yes, you do
have thousands of chests on a larger serevr
L325[05:50:43] <Vexatos> server*
L326[05:50:46] <Inari> though mods tend to
be more crashy for the most stupid circumstances, which always
makes me wonder if poeple dont catch exceptions or write tests or
something
L327[05:50:57] <Vexatos> Please
L328[05:51:01] <Vexatos> just shut. the.
flax. up.
L329[05:51:02] <Inari> chests, anvils and
hoppers are not decorative items
L330[05:51:03] <Vexatos> you are
annoying
L331[05:51:15] <Vexatos> You are as
annoying as dangranos's server admin
L332[05:51:19] <Vexatos> you too have no
idea how MC works
L333[05:51:31] <Sandra> carpenter's blocks
are worse than 3d printed blocks.
L334[05:51:36] <Vexatos> I need to go get
lunch now
L335[05:51:38] <Inari> Sandra:
possibly
L336[05:51:41] <Inari> that wasnt the
topic
L337[05:51:42] <Inari> xD
L338[05:51:42] <Vexatos> bye
L339[05:52:00] <Sandra> I'm just saying,
you should really just drop the topic.
L340[05:52:03] <Inari> Vexatos: well we
agreed ont hat my idea was possible, and my idea would save
data
L341[05:52:07] <Sandra> it's a
non-issue.
L342[05:52:07] <Inari> so i dont really
care how MC works
L343[05:52:38] <Inari> Sandra: nothing
datawise with blocks in MC is a non-issue
L344[05:52:39] <Inari> thats the
point
L345[05:52:54] <Sandra> it... is a
non-issue.
L346[05:54:03] <Inari> how much data does
a normal block store?
L347[05:55:21] <Sandra> well there's quite
a bit of data.
L348[05:55:34] <Sandra> light level, type,
metadata.
L349[05:55:52] <Inari> anyway, esp for
decorative blocks "we dont care" doesnt realyl work, you
have to assume there might be hundreds of thousands of them
around
L350[05:55:58] <Sandra> that's just stuff
I can think of off the top of my head.
L351[05:56:09] <Sandra> again, it's a
non-issue.
L352[05:56:23] <Inari> worst case seems
6gb per player
L353[05:58:32] <Sandra> Hooray, for having
no clue how to use Maven!!!!!
L354[05:59:00] <Sandra> I'm just trying to
do a thing!
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L357[06:08:50] <Inari> making an elevator
is more of a pain than i thought it would be :D
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L363[06:59:31] <Somebody> o/ all, I'm
trying to connect my OC with my AE network to find all craftable
items. Did this functionality change between the merge of OC and
open components?
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L368[07:01:32] <Sandra> Somebody, it
shouldn't have, how are you connecting it?
L369[07:02:35] <Somebody> I have an
adapter connecto to both ME controller and ME interface
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L371[07:03:02] <Sandra> and what
components are showing up?
L372[07:04:11] <Somebody> The me
controller and interface are both showing up, I'm just unable to
find the right methods
L373[07:04:25] <Sandra> mmm.
L375[07:07:00] <nxsupert_> What is the
syntax for the "set" command?
L376[07:07:35] <Sandra> Somebody, that
looks like openperipheral?
L377[07:07:41] <Sandra> do you have that
installed?
L378[07:07:51] <Somebody> We do have
openperipheral installed as well yes
L379[07:08:05] <Sandra> that's probably
why it's not showing up, since listMethods would only show the
methods added by it.
L380[07:08:39] <Somebody> ... Sometimes I
wonder if my brain works
L381[07:08:50] <Somebody> what would be
the best way to get all the right functionality listed from
OC?
L382[07:09:24] <Inari> for k,v in
pairs(me) do if type(v) == "function" then
print(k..",") end end or something like that maybe?
L383[07:09:25] <Inari> not sure
L384[07:09:31] <Sandra> yeah.
L385[07:09:46] <Sandra> that'd work.
L386[07:13:14] <Somebody> replace fuction
for table and it works :) thank you
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L388[07:21:45] <nxsupert_> If I change the
environment variables. Is there any way of saving them so that they
stay the same after rebooting them?
L389[07:23:30] <Sandra> nxsupert_, pop it
in the autorun script?
L390[07:23:40] <nxsupert_> Ok.
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L393[07:30:29] <dangranos> i really would
like to punch that admin with that log
L394[07:32:08] <nxsupert_> Find a diffrent
server?
L395[07:33:22] <dangranos> is there any
24/7 servers with OC, playes, and without any donations/"pay
to win"?
L396[07:33:59] <nxsupert_> Not that I know
of.
L397[07:34:09] <dangranos> exactly
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L399[07:39:10] <Lizzy> pay to win servers
are actually against the Mojang EULA
L400[07:39:46] <dangranos> well, i mean
servers where you can get everything if you'll throw *some* money
at admins
L401[07:39:54] <dangranos> some even sell
admin rights
L402[07:40:08] <dangranos> and that's
actually a majority of russian servers
L403[07:40:10] <Lizzy> wow
L404[07:40:15] <dangranos> at least the
ones i saw
L405[07:40:40] <dangranos> maybe normal
one are too far under that dump of servers
L406[07:45:18] <Izaya> milk, sledgehammer,
Prozac
L407[07:48:14] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
err, I have a server but it barely has 5 players on it regularly.
No donations or anything as I hate it too.
L408[07:49:18] <SkySom> Most the good
servers are private =)
L409[07:49:38] <dangranos> or well
hidden
L410[07:49:43] <dangranos> hitecnologys,
what's the catch?
L411[07:49:53] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
the catch?
L412[07:50:15] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
my English isn't all that great. What does that mean?
L413[07:50:51] <SkySom> The hidden
downside
L414[07:51:01] <hitecnologys> Ah.
L415[07:51:12] <hitecnologys> Well, it's
quite buggy. =P
L416[07:51:27] <hitecnologys> And there
are few players.
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L418[07:52:03] <dangranos> soooo, how do i
join? :3
L419[07:52:05] <hitecnologys> Otherwise,
regular server. I host it mostly for myself but everyone's welcome.
I've already "advertised" it here several times.
L421[07:52:31] <hitecnologys> You'll find
all you need there.
L422[07:52:43] <Somebody> I'm quite happy
with the server I"m on
L423[07:52:51] <hitecnologys> And I'm
*not* a web programmer.
L424[07:52:58] <Somebody> has OC since 2
days or so finally
L425[07:53:00] <dangranos> \o/
L426[07:53:02] <dangranos> tar
L427[07:53:06] <dangranos> a freaking
tar
L428[07:53:10] <dangranos> yay
L429[07:53:17] <hitecnologys> Heh.
L430[07:54:18] <hitecnologys> You're the
first who appretiates my efforts so far.
L431[07:54:33] <Izaya> PotatoPack
L432[07:54:36] <Izaya> interesting
L433[07:54:37] <hitecnologys> Everybody
hates TARs. =(
L434[07:54:46] *
Izaya likes tar
L435[07:54:46] <hitecnologys> Especially
XZ compressed.
L436[07:54:49] <Somebody> I could
recommend my current server dangranos, 10+ actives at most given
time :)
L437[07:54:53] <hitecnologys> Those make
Windows users mad.
L438[07:54:54] <Izaya> I can read a tar
with OC
L439[07:55:08] <Izaya> hitecnologys,
they're just jelly that they don't have a good archive format
L440[07:55:24] <hitecnologys> Izaya: oh,
it's you who wrote TAR decompressor for OC?
L441[07:55:24] <SkySom> Those make windows
user who don't know what they're doing angry
L442[07:55:42] *
SkySom can handle tar on windows
L443[07:55:53] <Izaya> hitecnologys, not
me, but if I wanted I could even extract it manually
L444[07:56:08] <hitecnologys> Izaya: I
see.
L445[07:56:12] <Lizzy> hitecnologys: if
tar files annoy windows users then they don't have 7zip
L446[07:56:45] *
Lizzy <3 7zip
L447[07:57:05] <hitecnologys> Lizzy:
right. Everybody uses goddamn cracked 10-year-old WinRar from disks
obtained at local PC shop "100 best programs of
2000".
L448[07:57:21] *
hitecnologys hates RAR.
L449[07:57:27] *
Lizzy burns rar
L450[07:57:30] <dangranos> oh god
L451[07:57:38] <dangranos> why winrar is
even alive
L452[07:57:40] <dangranos> HOW
L453[07:57:54] *
hitecnologys pets Lizzy
L454[07:57:57] <dangranos> ..maybe people
search "rar" and then download first thing?
L455[07:58:15] <dangranos> tar ftw!
L456[07:58:28] *
Lizzy purrs
L457[07:58:30] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
dunno. Makes me wonder why am I still alive.
L458[07:59:02] <hitecnologys> The worst
thing is that it's almost impossible to make people convert.
=P
L459[07:59:10] <hitecnologys> But let's
not talk about painful things.
L460[07:59:18] <hitecnologys> I've got
enough pain on my mind.
L461[07:59:30] <dangranos> \o/ yay to
multimc
L462[08:00:27] <dangranos> 1.7.10?
L463[08:00:31] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
ah, right, there's one more downside: we've got offline mode
enabled so no skins. Makes me sad too as my skin looks quite
awesome but... err, you know.
L464[08:00:43] <dangranos> pirates?
L465[08:00:49] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
aye, 1.7.10. No prerelease or anything.
L466[08:01:01] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
pirates.
L467[08:01:08] *
dangranos sighs
L468[08:01:12] <hitecnologys> Yeah.
L469[08:01:18] <dangranos> was one
too
L470[08:01:24] <Lizzy> hitecnologys:
another way i used for distrbuting packs (when i running a public
server, though i don't run it anymore because it didn't have many
players) was BitTorrent Sync. Had 3 of my servers on the share as
well as it using anyone else connected to it
L471[08:01:26] *
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L472[08:01:33] <Izaya> yarr
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L475[08:01:57] <SkySom> Cause honestly the
way mc was described to me sounded stupid
L476[08:02:07] <hitecnologys> Lizzy: I was
actually working on mod repository so that I could easily manage
mods, mod packs and configs in a centralized manner.
L477[08:02:14] <SkySom> And now here I am.
Large portions of my life gone
L478[08:02:23] <hitecnologys> Lizzy: but
that's a long term project so isn't gonna happen any time
soon.
L479[08:02:28] <dangranos> forge
version?
L480[08:02:42] <hitecnologys> The one with
1388 as the last number.
L481[08:02:52] <hitecnologys> Don't
remember full version specifier.
L482[08:03:03] <dangranos> that'll be
build number
L483[08:03:15] <Lizzy> hitecnologys: did
that with git for a while, best to go with subversion for that
because you cant store the changes of binary files so git stores
the entire file and slows it down a lot
L484[08:03:52] <dangranos> unpack
mods?
L485[08:03:58] <dangranos> so.. you
know
L486[08:04:08] <dangranos> or it doesnt
tries at all?
L487[08:04:26] *
dangranos pokes hitecnologys
L488[08:04:33] <dangranos> so... ip?
.-.
L489[08:04:36] <hitecnologys> Git is bad
at managing binary data.
L490[08:04:45] <hitecnologys> It's
minecraft.hitecnologys.org. Simple.
L491[08:05:04] <Lizzy> also speaking of
servers, i need to renew my dedi
L493[08:05:24] <dangranos> try to guess
gender
L494[08:05:27] <hitecnologys> Lizzy: I
though about using something more specialized rather than
VCSs.
L495[08:05:32] <dangranos> without looking
at it in sheet
L496[08:06:04] <hitecnologys> Lizzy: the
idea is make something as easy to use as apt.
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L498[08:09:57] <hitecnologys> dangranos:
gosh, I'm bad at guessing gender from a picture. =|
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L503[08:24:35] <Katie>
java.lang.NullPointerException: Rendering item \o/ I didn't like
playing MC anyway
L504[08:25:03] <Evey> lol
L505[08:25:12] *
vifino cuddles Lizzy
L506[08:25:31] <Katie> the *only* clue I
can see is Item NBT: {size:1,meta:0,rod:1b}
L507[08:25:36] <Katie> which tells me...
nothing
L508[08:25:46] <vifino> lol
L509[08:26:08] <Katie> everything else is
null.
L510[08:26:52] <vifino> I love the names
of awesomewm's libraries: gears, awful, beatuful, naughty, vicious,
blingbling
L511[08:27:03] <vifino> *beautiful
L512[08:27:13] <SkySom> But what does
naughty even do?
L513[08:27:30] <Inari> you do love the
name of love2d libs too? ;D
L514[08:27:31] <vifino> naughty is the
thing that sends you desktop notifications.
L515[08:28:10] <SkySom> Ah. I wish more
applications did desktop notifications
L516[08:28:32] <vifino> Erm. awesomewm is
a window manager ._.
L517[08:28:36] <Katie> -_-and internet
died toooo
L518[08:30:24] <Inari> stuff like Cupid,
HUMP, HardonCollider, LUBE, Lovebird, LuaPIll, Lovetoys, Love Bone,
Adult Lib, Polygamy, Swingers, Quickie, AnAL
L519[08:31:10] *
Lizzy cuddles vifino
L520[08:31:44] <vifino> Lizzy! \o/
L521[08:32:31] <Lizzy> O_o just looked at
PCL/TDIC and someone randomly joined a load of channels, one of
which was my name....
L522[08:32:53] <Katie> same person also
joined #TheEther here.
L523[08:33:11] <Lizzy> huh
L524[08:33:16] <Lizzy> weird
L525[08:33:22] <Lizzy> they also joined
#EB3
L526[08:33:30] <vifino> O.O
L527[08:33:37] <Lizzy> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L528[08:34:05] <Katie> \o/ Crashed again
it's trying to render a creative tab, and failing...
L529[08:34:11] <Lizzy> lol
L530[08:34:14] <Katie> sadly it's not
giving me a mod name, a block name, or anything
L531[08:34:21] <Lizzy> \o/
L532[08:34:31] <vifino> \o/
L533[08:34:35] *
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L534[08:34:55] <Katie> I have enough of
those, thanks :P
L535[08:35:49] *
Evey throws more generic errors at Katie
L536[08:35:52] *
Evey giggles
L537[08:36:05] *
vifino throws a muffin at Lizzy, Evey and Katie, high enough to
easily be catchable and eats one himself
L538[08:36:08] *
Katie null routes the incoming generic errors
L539[08:36:30] *
Katie catches the muffin and starts eating
L540[08:37:13] <vifino> brb, don't set
anything on fire while I'm not here to extinguish stuffs.
L541[08:37:27] <SkySom> I know it's a
window manager.
L542[08:37:44] <SkySom> But what good are
desktop notifications when not many applications use them xD
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L545[08:48:01] <Somebody> Hey, when using
OC to read ME data. should the getItemDetail function take the
itemdata from the getAvailableItems?
L546[08:48:24] <vifino> Aaaand back, did
you set anything on fire yet, Lizzy? :P
L547[08:52:08] <Evey> Not yet
L548[08:52:19] <Evey> she's getting close
though
L549[08:52:33] <vifino> o.o
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L551[08:52:51] *
Lizzy sets her desk on fire
L552[08:52:52] <Lizzy> well,
L553[08:52:54] <Lizzy> shit
L554[08:53:01] *
vifino sighs
L555[08:53:04] *
Lizzy grabs the fire extinguisher
L556[08:53:07] *
vifino extinguishes it
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wraps his arms around her
L558[08:56:47] <Lizzy> l/me :3
L559[08:56:50] <Lizzy> ;-;
L560[08:56:52] <Lizzy> .-.
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L564[09:02:59] <vifino> \o/
L565[09:03:10] <vifino> Amazon
deliverydood came and delivered my ssd!
L566[09:03:11] <nxsupert_> o/
L567[09:03:33] <vifino> And ohmygod, the
enclosure is 10 times heavier than the ssd.
L568[09:03:48] <vifino> Actually, it's
just the package, but ohwell.
L569[09:08:10] <Katie> Even better, the
crash only happens on my server.
L570[09:08:57] <Lizzy> Sounds fun
L571[09:09:15] <hitecnologys> Katie: do
you have only OC in modlist?
L572[09:09:32] <Katie> lolno
L573[09:09:43] <hitecnologys> Can I check
out? =P
L574[09:10:26] <Katie> The server, or the
list? If the list, sure give me a bit, if the server no, unless
you're also on my LAN :P
L575[09:10:41] <hitecnologys> The server
and the list.
L576[09:10:45] <hitecnologys> Ah.
L577[09:11:00] <hitecnologys> Then only
the list.
L578[09:11:00] <Katie> No, the server is
for my wife, daughter and I to play together.
L579[09:11:20] <Katie> Sure
L580[09:11:25] <Katie> lemme get the list
together
L581[09:11:26] <hitecnologys> OK, I
see.
L583[09:14:42] <hitecnologys> Katie: neat,
thanks.
L584[09:15:00] <dangranos> wai.. your
server is ALIVE?
L585[09:15:19] <Katie> o_o?
L586[09:15:24] <dangranos> or did i
mistook you with lizzy?
L587[09:15:29] <dangranos> or someone
else..
L588[09:15:38] <dangranos> oh, right that
was lizzy's iirc
L589[09:15:38] <vifino> Yes, Lizzy. But
no, the server is not alive.
L591[09:16:06] <dangranos> :3 fancy new
forge loading bar
L592[09:16:10] <Katie> Ugh I'd love to
know why mods aren't being removed with solder....
L593[09:16:28] <dangranos> huh?
L594[09:16:51] <Katie> new version, remove
mods, update and the mods I removed are still in the clients pack.
If I remove them in solder, when the user updates it's supposed to
remove them locally to ¬_¬
L595[09:17:07] <dangranos> found some
irc-like chat mod for mc
L596[09:17:22] <dangranos> as in
"channels"
L597[09:17:33] <hitecnologys> Oh, you
reminded me to install IRC-gate plugin.
L598[09:17:42] <vifino> Victory! SSD
works!
L599[09:17:43] <vifino> \o/
L600[09:24:42] <vifino> 13092.775755] scsi
6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Samsung SSD 850 EVO mSAT 0 PQ: 0 ANSI:
6
L601[09:24:45] <vifino> \o/
L602[09:27:06] <vifino> 532.01 MB/sec
omfg
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L612[09:57:38] <nxsupert_> o/
L613[09:57:44] <Lizzy> \o
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L622[10:53:05] <nxsupert_> Is there a
simple way of using string.match to get just the file name from a
url?
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L627[11:19:45] <nxsupert_> Is table.getn
not implemented in OC?
L628[11:20:34] <gamax92> nxsupert_: pretty
sure that was removed in lua5.2
L629[11:20:46] <nxsupert_> Oh.
L630[11:20:55] <nxsupert_> How do I get
how large a table is now then?
L631[11:21:08] <gamax92> #variable
L632[11:21:21] <gamax92> .l variable =
{4,3,5,5,34,4534,5,3,73,6,3,46,2} return #variable
L633[11:21:21] <^v> gamax92, 13
L634[11:22:55] <gamax92> you shouldn't
have been using getn anyway, it was deprecated in lua5.1
L635[11:23:08] <nxsupert_> Ok.
L636[11:23:37] <nxsupert_> 166 lines of
code written. Still have nothing resembling an editor :(
L637[11:23:52] <gamax92> 2000 more lines
to go!
L638[11:25:11] <nxsupert_> Just trying to
think of what to implement next is hard :(
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L648[11:54:32] <gamax92> uhh what
L649[11:55:03] <gamax92> if you do
component.internet.connect("") you get nil,
"Expected authority at index 5: oc://"
L650[12:00:39] <Vexatos> Blame
Sangar
L651[12:04:28] <Inari> whoa
L652[12:04:33] <Inari> monitor stuff fades
ina s you get closer
L653[12:04:33] <Inari> nice
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L657[12:21:00] <luxee> Hello
everyone
L658[12:21:46] <gamax92> Hello
L659[12:22:45] <luxee> I'm a newbee of oc,
Is there anyone could tell me how can I craft a case ? thanks
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L661[12:23:08] <dangranos> NEI, DO U USE
IT?!!
L662[12:23:11] <dangranos> sorry
L663[12:23:17] <dangranos> check
"manual"
L664[12:23:34] <dangranos> if you dont
have NEI installed
L665[12:23:58] <luxee> Is NEI a mod?
L666[12:24:01] <Vexatos> Yes
L667[12:24:06] <nxsupert_> Not Enough
Items.
L668[12:24:09] <Vexatos> Use NEI or
CraftGuide
L669[12:24:17] <nxsupert_> Allows you to
search up recipes.
L670[12:24:19] <Vexatos> both are mods
that show you the recipes for every item in game
L671[12:24:44] <dangranos> though NEI
replaces TMI (is anybody even uses TMI anymore?)
L672[12:24:54] <dangranos> *can
replace
L673[12:24:59] <Vexatos> is uses*
L674[12:25:00] <Vexatos> U;
L675[12:25:04] <Vexatos> ;U
L676[12:25:05] <nxsupert_> I use TMI with
snapshots.
L677[12:25:21] <dangranos> its.. its STILL
ALIVE?!
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L680[12:27:07] <luxee> ok, thank you
dangranos and Vexatos for your help :)
L681[12:27:22] <dangranos> i am helping!
yay!
L682[12:27:32] *
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L690[12:59:19] <dangranos> huh, there is
"ender" and "katt" on hypeirc
L692[13:06:11] <Inari> hrm
L693[13:06:39] <Inari> my pc says
"not enough memory" on bootup, Pres any key to contiue,
then boots into shell when i hit enter enough times
L694[13:06:54] <gamax92> how much memory
did you give it? :P
L695[13:07:01] <gamax92> one T1 stick will
be troubles
L696[13:07:08] <Inari> one t1 stick
:D
L697[13:07:16] <gamax92> dunt do
that
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L699[13:08:44] <Inari> oh well im
upgrading anyway
L700[13:08:52] <Inari> will give it 2 teir
2
L701[13:09:17] <Inari> still wishing for
better mem management :<
L702[13:10:07] <gamax92> Inari: you mean
any?
L703[13:10:46] <Inari> letting Ae do the
crafting work - so good
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L705[13:24:14] <Sangar> o/
L706[13:24:38] <Vexatos> \o
L707[13:30:16] <gamax92> ?
L708[13:39:16] <Inari> gamax92: well
memory not fluctuating like crazy would be a start
L709[13:39:48] <gamax92> Blame lua or
Sangar
L710[13:40:08] <Vexatos> Inari, that's
called _gc
L711[13:40:08] <Inari> i'll blmae
both
L712[13:40:21] <Inari> Vexatos: still
makes no sense to me
L713[13:40:30] <Sangar> mostly Lua
:P
L714[13:40:40] <Vexatos> Sangar, I blame
_gc
L715[13:40:40] <Inari> gc shouldnt collect
anything in the program i made
L716[13:40:55] <Inari> surely not in the
ranges fo thousands either
L717[13:41:11] <Inari> unless im missing
something about how lua works :P
L718[13:41:15] <Sangar> well things still
happen outside your program (the sandbox)
L719[13:41:28] <Sangar> when you yield it
goes through a bunch of sandboxing code
L720[13:41:28] <Inari> then the sandbox
does a lot of stuff xD
L722[13:41:35] <Vexatos> 11/10 best
issue
L723[13:41:35] <Sangar> it does what it
has to
L724[13:41:47] <Vexatos> Btw, Sangar, I
commented on that 'tronics issue
L725[13:41:48] <Inari> the sandbox
shouldnt be part of my computer's memory though ;-;
L726[13:41:56] <Vexatos> Of course it
should q_q
L727[13:42:02] <gamax92> why would it
not
L728[13:42:09] <gamax92> it runs in the
computer's memory as well
L729[13:42:11] <Inari> cause it doesnt
exist as far ast he computer is concerned
L730[13:42:26] <Sangar> *how* would it not
be? o.O
L731[13:42:41] <Inari> well i dont know
how lua handles that :p
L732[13:42:45] <Vexatos> Sangar, just
stop, Inari has been talking about stuff he has no idea about all
day
L733[13:42:53] <Sangar> that's like saying
"oh, but the os is doing stuff while i'm playing games, it
really shouldn't be part of my computer"
L734[13:42:57] <Vexatos> Just ignore
L735[13:42:57] <Sangar> okthen
L736[13:43:07] <Inari> well, the os is
part of my computer
L737[13:43:08] <Vexatos> (or she,
whatever)
L738[13:43:09] <Inari> the sandbox
isnt
L739[13:43:18] <gamax92> the sandbox is
part of your computer seeing as it's also in lua
L740[13:43:19] <Vexatos> Must...
ignore....
L741[13:43:30] <Inari> but it doesnt exist
from the computers perspective
L742[13:43:38] <Sangar> ...
L743[13:43:43] <Vexatos> Mus
L744[13:43:45] <gamax92> it exists in the
sense that its running in lua and even provides functions to
openos
L745[13:43:45] <Vexatos> Must
L746[13:43:47] <Vexatos> ignore
L747[13:43:49] <gamax92> Vexatos: shut
up
L748[13:43:50] <Vexatos> ......
L749[13:43:55] <Inari> and i cant
influence it, so if its wasting memory and fluctuating it, thats
kind of a bad thing
L750[13:43:59] <Sangar> i'll be doing
something else now, ping me when it's safe to come back :X
L751[13:44:05] <Vexatos> Sangar, good
idea
L752[13:44:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, how about
looking at the Computronics issue again? P:
L753[13:44:35] <Inari> Vexatos: so you say
its a good thing that memory fluctuates in your computer out of
your control, for reasons that are unrelated to the code that
actually runs on your pc?
L754[13:44:52] <Vexatos> Inari, in your
control
L755[13:44:56] <Vexatos> You can say _G =
{}
L756[13:44:57] <Vexatos> done
L757[13:44:57] <Inari> sandbox isnt in my
control
L758[13:45:05] <Vexatos> there is your
empty sandbox
L759[13:45:11] <Inari> that disables
sandbox? :p
L760[13:45:18] <Vexatos> Yes, and Lua
itself, pretty much
L761[13:45:24] <Inari> so it isnt in my
control
L762[13:45:27] <Vexatos> it is
L763[13:45:29] <Vexatos> you can set
it
L764[13:45:30] <Sangar> Vexatos, i'm
guessing it's because the component self-destructs while it's
updating... it's a massive pain to work around that from my side
though... if you have a tick handler, could you just move the
boom-doing-stuff to there? >_>
L765[13:45:31] <Vexatos> you should
not
L766[13:45:32] <Vexatos> but you can
L767[13:45:48] <Vexatos> Sangar, what's
the difference
L768[13:45:49] <gamax92>
>boom-doing-stuff
L769[13:45:49] <gamax92> ~ Sangar
2015
L770[13:45:58] <Inari> Vexatos: if i set
it, i cant run anything, so no, it is not in any practical
scenario
L771[13:46:02] <Sangar> Vexatos, tick
handler runs after components have updated
L772[13:46:03] <Vexatos> and why did it
work for me (without Cauldron)
L773[13:46:08] <Vexatos> mhm
L774[13:46:10] <Sangar> aka list isn't
modified while i'm iterating over it
L775[13:46:14] <Vexatos> I do not have a
tick handler though
L776[13:46:18] <gamax92> meh, I'mma go
continue working on the internet card though
L777[13:46:28] <Sangar> i dunno, maybe the
card was the last component in the list?
L778[13:46:38] <Vexatos> Maybe
L779[13:46:43] <Inari> and its kind of a
bad thing when writing memory critical application when your free
memory rises and drops by tens of thousands of bytes each loop
iteration even though you aren't doing anything to cause that
L780[13:46:50] <Vexatos> Which tick should
I listen to
L781[13:46:58] <Vexatos> and how would I
make it explode persistently
L782[13:47:03] <gamax92> Inari: do you
know what emergency gc is?
L783[13:47:08] <Vexatos> (what if the
server shuts down in exactly that tick)
L784[13:47:15] <Inari> gamax92: not
sure?
L785[13:47:23] <Vexatos> or is the tick
event fired in the exact same tick, just after a TE update?
L786[13:47:52] <Sangar> Vexatos, schedule
it to happen post-tick, that should definitely still run if the
update ran
L787[13:47:57] <Inari> well, time to look
at the sandbox code
L788[13:48:04] <Sangar> and yeah, same
tick
L789[13:48:09] <Vexatos> Sangar, what's
the tick name
L790[13:48:09] <gamax92> Inari: well, you
have memory thats actually in use and referred to by things, and
memory that needs to be cleaned up, when stuff gets really low lua
will fire a GC to clean up the not used memory
L791[13:48:18] <Vexatos> The event
name*
L792[13:48:23] <Inari> yeah, i do know
what a GC is
L793[13:48:29] <Sangar> Vexatos,
ServerTickEvent
L794[13:48:33] <Vexatos> Also, does that
mean it doesn't need to be persistent and I can just use some
ArrayList?
L795[13:48:43] <Sangar> if (e.phase ==
TickEvent.Phase.END) i believe
L796[13:48:46] <Vexatos> to add some
coordinates to?
L797[13:48:54] <Sangar> yeah, just have a
list of pending explosions
L798[13:49:03] <Vexatos> world AND
coordinates I assume
L799[13:49:10] <Vexatos> or is the event
fired once per world
L800[13:49:17] <Inari> anyway since hte
sandbox influences memory, and i cant change the sandbox,
memory-critical applications wander into the realm of magic ^^
migth have to try to code around it..
L801[13:49:32] <Sangar> mmm, better world
and coords, not sure about that
L802[13:50:03] <Sangar> actually... hrm, i
might be able to work around it...
L803[13:50:04] <gamax92> Inari: no they
just push memory usage very high, lua fires an emergency GC, and
then things go back to normal
L804[13:50:16] <Vexatos> Sangar, but can I
be sure the world instance is the same
L805[13:50:19] <Sangar> i'm actually
confused it doesn't raise a concurrentmodificationexception if it
*is* that
L806[13:50:26] <Vexatos> That
exactly
L807[13:50:31] <Inari> gamax92: but it
still uses memory that i could use otherwise?
L808[13:50:33] <Vexatos> that's why I was
sure it was not thread thing
L809[13:50:46] <Sangar> tbh i'd just wait
to hear if it *is* cauldron for him...
L810[13:50:51] <gamax92> Inari: no, it's
used but not referenced so it gets cleaned up
L811[13:50:52] <Sangar> because if it
is... welp.
L812[13:50:52] <Vexatos> Sangar,
waaaait
L813[13:51:07] <gamax92> it just hasn't
been cleaned up yet when you read the memory usage
L814[13:51:16] <Vexatos> it is iterating
through all components and then calling component.update()
L815[13:51:28] <Vexatos> but in my
.update() every component is being set to null indeed
L816[13:51:37] <Vexatos> as I remove the
TE and block completely
L817[13:51:41] <Inari> well will hav eto
check machine.lua to figure what conusmes tens of thousands of
bytes
L818[13:51:42] <Vexatos> and all the
contents
L819[13:51:47] <Vexatos> sooo, it probably
is my fault
L820[13:52:01] <Vexatos> not sure why it
ever crashed
L821[13:52:05] <Vexatos> never*
L822[13:52:22] <gamax92> like right now my
memory meter fluctuates between 196K and 211K
L823[13:52:25] <Sangar> wait, you set it
to null? you don't remove it?
L824[13:52:45] <Vexatos> Sangar, I do
remove it
L825[13:53:08] <Sangar> that doesn't null
it though, that removes it from the list
L826[13:53:09] <Vexatos> I literally
copied the Vanilla explosion code
L827[13:53:22] <Sangar> idk what vanilla
explosion code does :P
L828[13:53:33] <Inari> gamax92: well i'll
tinker around with it and see
L829[13:53:35] <Sangar> different
question: what to call the cpus with integrated graphics?
L830[13:53:46] <Sangar> "CPU+"?
:P
L832[13:54:12] <Inari> APU?
L833[13:54:13] <Vexatos> That should be
legit
L834[13:54:46] <Inari> thats what AMD
calls them i think
L835[13:55:38] <Sangar> hohum. kinda close
to ALU :P will read up some on newer cpus i guess, see what other
acronyms there might be :P
L836[13:55:57] <Sangar> Vexatos, hrm,
yeah, that should remove it, so it *should* cme... i don't...
L837[13:56:16] <Vexatos> Sangar, I checked
your setInventorySlotContents when I did this
L838[13:56:23] <Vexatos> it does seem to
call everything just fine
L839[13:56:45] <asie> Vexatos: use a tick
handler
L840[13:56:49] <asie> BC uses a tick
handler for stripes pipe extension
L841[13:56:51] <asie> was the easiest
way
L842[13:57:01] <Vexatos> But it works
without cauldron, apparently
L843[13:57:06] <asie> cauldron is
strange
L844[13:57:12] <asie> it doesn't
invalidate TEs properly, for example
L845[13:57:13] <Vexatos> And I have no
idea if the world is unique during things or what
L846[13:58:04] <Sangar>
o;jnasdg;ojadg
L847[13:58:09] <Sangar> arraybuffers don't
cme
L848[13:58:14] <Sangar> otherwise it
would
L849[13:58:15] <Sangar> >_>
L850[13:58:48] <Inari> gamax92: does lua
clean activationr ecords instantly or over gc?
L851[13:59:03] <gamax92> ... what
L852[13:59:15] <Vexatos> ...
L853[13:59:22] <Inari> what
L854[13:59:24] <Vexatos> Sangar, do you
have an example for a tick handler?
L855[13:59:26] <gamax92> English
Motherfucker, do you speak it
L856[13:59:40] <Inari> all of that was
english :P
L857[13:59:41] <Sangar> Vexatos, i'll just
add a null check
L858[13:59:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, you
should anyway, more safe
L859[14:00:19] <Vexatos> But it's still
weird
L860[14:00:43] <Inari> gamax92: well wehn
a new function is called, an activation record is produced for it,
im wondering, once htat function ends, does lua clean the record
data instantly or wait for gc to pick it up?
L861[14:01:02] <Vexatos> I don't trust an
arraylist containing DriverCardBoom instances for a tick handler,
so meh
L862[14:01:14] <Sangar> Vexatos, the
arraybuffer caches the original size for the for loop internally
for performance -.-
L863[14:01:17] <gamax92> I know not of
what these activation records are so, brb internet card
L864[14:01:24] <Sangar> so it just
iterates to the original length, even if it changed during the
loop
L865[14:01:25] <Sangar> yay
L866[14:01:37] <Sangar> so yeah, i'll just
manually loop there
L867[14:01:40] <Vexatos> Better change it
to an ArrayList
L868[14:01:54] <Vexatos> Because you do
not want a lua-style loop anywhere there
L869[14:02:21] <Sangar> nah, then i'd need
to wrap it to scala everywhere else which would be much slower
:P
L870[14:02:36] <Vexatos> >_>
L871[14:02:46] <Vexatos> Still faster than
Selene
L872[14:03:04] <Vexatos> for now
L873[14:03:06] <Sangar> actually
L874[14:03:10] <Vexatos> throw new
gregtech.api.util.GT_ItsNotMyFaultException
L875[14:03:10] <Sangar> no
L876[14:03:12] <Sangar> nonono
L877[14:03:15] <Sangar> let's not :X
L878[14:03:18] <Sangar> hah
L879[14:03:21] <Sangar> also no
L880[14:03:22] <Sangar> :P
L881[14:03:26] <Vexatos> <_>
L882[14:03:54] <gamax92> Yeees ... throw
exceptions from random mods >:3
L883[14:04:05] <Vexatos> not random
L884[14:04:23] <Vexatos> I know that thing
exists so I threw it :P
L885[14:04:51] <Vexatos> Sangar,
whatdidIdonow
L886[14:05:04] <Inari> i'll just test it
then
L887[14:07:20] <Vexatos> Sangar, you seem
worried, what did I do now >_>
L888[14:08:10] <Sangar> nah, that was
aimed at my 'actually' :P had a stupid idea
L889[14:08:21] <Sangar> that would have
been far worse, performance-wise :X
L890[14:08:33] <Vexatos> Oooh I know what
you were thinking!
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L892[14:08:45] <Sangar> really now
L893[14:08:46] <Vexatos> "Let's store
everything in ArrayLists of BigDecimal"
L894[14:08:57] <Sangar> nice try :P
L895[14:09:12] <Vexatos> Then you can
.modInv
L896[14:09:15] <Vexatos> all the
things
L897[14:09:19] <Vexatos> Well, with
BigInteger
L898[14:09:20] <Vexatos> P:
L899[14:09:44] <Sangar> hrm the generic
term seems to be IGP (for integrated graphics processor)
L900[14:10:28] <Sangar> darn, that seems
to usually mean *just* the gpu part
L901[14:10:35] <Sangar> meh
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L903[14:11:08] <Vexatos> Sangar,
GnCPU?
L904[14:11:09] <Vexatos> P:
L905[14:11:17] <Vexatos> CPUwG
L906[14:11:24] <Vexatos> gCPU
L907[14:11:28] <Vexatos> iGPU
L908[14:11:40] <Sangar> let's call it APU.
i actually thought of that, too, as "advanced ..." so
whatever
L909[14:11:43] <Sangar> no
L910[14:11:43] <Vexatos> (incoming apple
trials)
L911[14:11:45] <Sangar>
nononononononono
L912[14:11:52] <Sangar> that too
L913[14:12:02] <Vexatos> Amazing
Processing Unit
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L915[14:12:07] <Vexatos> Have to call it
that in the manual tooltip
L916[14:12:09] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L917[14:12:28] <Sangar> heh
L918[14:12:38] <Sangar> Awesome Processing
Unit
L919[14:13:25] <Inari> Ambiigious
Processing Unit
L920[14:13:34] <Vexatos> Astonishing
Processing Unit
L921[14:13:45] <Vexatos> Sangar: Make it a
thing like the Extra Utilities QED
L922[14:13:52] <Vexatos> so it changes its
localized name every 5 seconds
L923[14:13:56] <gamax92> ehh, what does
APU have to do with Apple
L924[14:14:03] <Vexatos> gamax92,
iGPU
L925[14:14:11] <gamax92> oh that
L926[14:14:12] <Altenius> .sauce
L928[14:14:45] <gamax92> Sangar: I love
how on a internet socket I do .read(1) and get more than one
byte
L929[14:15:06] <Skye> Call it a "CPU
+ GPU"
L930[14:15:08] <Inari> i conclude,
function activation records appear to not be cleared via GC
L931[14:15:17] <gamax92> wtf is an
activation record
L932[14:15:17] <Sangar> gamax92, it
probably just ignores the parameter? idk
L933[14:15:26] <Vexatos> tape.lua:
Downloading 32 megabytes of data using 100 kB of RAM since 2014
✔
L934[14:15:30] <Inari> gamax92: thingy
that holds function info, and variables passed into function
L935[14:15:30] <Inari> orso
L936[14:15:55] <gamax92> that sounds like
a lua state
L937[14:16:47] <Inari> couldbe, not sure
implementation wise :P though the manual refers them by activation
record
L938[14:17:18] <Inari> lua_getstack
"This function fills parts of a lua_Debug structure with an
identification of the activation record of the function executing
at a given level. "
L939[14:17:42] <Inari> maybe thats the C
activation record though
L940[14:17:46] <Inari> not sure how lua
handles that internally
L941[14:18:08] <Sangar> you probably mean
what Lua internally calls prototypes
L942[14:18:19] <Inari> whatever gets
created wheny ou call a function
L943[14:18:53] <Inari> i guess rephreased:
does calling a function leave garbage to be collected
L944[14:19:28] <Inari> (assuming the
function doesnt create any objects or such of course)
L945[14:19:36] <Vexatos> the function
itself is an object
L946[14:19:52] <Sangar> oh, calling it?
yeah, that's... CallInfo i believe, which is only kept around for
yielded coroutines, iirc
L947[14:19:54] <Inari> seems calling it
doesnt make any diff in memory though
L948[14:20:08] <Inari> ah
L949[14:20:17] <Sangar> and i only know
that that exists because i persist it in eris :P
L950[14:20:48] <Inari>
collectgarbage("count") doesnt seem to change memory
either, but calling print does
L951[14:21:20] <Vexatos> Sangar, do you
know if there is any annotation in j6 to force something not
null?
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L953[14:24:48] <Inari> oh god
L954[14:24:55] <Inari> #lua is too
good
L955[14:24:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > lua:1:
'=' expected near 'too'
L956[14:24:59] <Inari> shush
L957[14:25:13] <Inari> they have "Pay
no attention to Soni" in topic :P
L958[14:27:08] <Vexatos> Inari, so you're
into memory optimization?
L959[14:27:21] <Vexatos> Maybe I need to
pay you some for optimizing Selene some time >_>
L960[14:28:43] <Inari> i have no clue what
selene even is, and uh... not sure if you can say im into it :P i
just like stuff being efficient and nice :3
L962[14:29:09] <Inari> and for some
applications (like drones storing mapping data) its pretty
important that they dont randomly run out of memory
L963[14:30:21] <Inari> Vexatos: typo
;-;
L964[14:30:51] <Vexatos> where D:
L965[14:31:07] <Vexatos> must fix
typo
L966[14:31:17] <Inari> "I provides
special syntax as well as convenient functions on tables and
strings."
L967[14:32:52] <Vexatos> Okay, fixed
L968[14:32:53] <Vexatos> thanks
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L972[14:55:20] <Inari> Vexatos: does it
eat a lot of memory at runtime? XD
L973[14:55:31] <Vexatos> Inari, no
L974[14:55:37] <Vexatos> just while
compiling
L975[14:55:44] <Vexatos> so, if you run it
in livemode, a little, yes
L976[14:55:51] <Inari> ah
L977[14:56:23] <Vexatos> (livemode
auto-compiles)
L978[14:58:54] <Vexatos> Inari, if you
want to try it, #computronics has a Lua bot running it
L979[14:58:55] <Vexatos> :P
L980[14:59:02] <Inari> :3
L981[14:59:32] <Vexatos> use ":=
<luastuff>" to "return <luastuff>" and
":> <luastuff>" to just execute that code
L982[14:59:38] <Vexatos> (Thanks to Kubuxu
for the bot <3)
L983[15:00:55] <Inari> are number vars
statically allocated or why does "local d = 22" not cause
memory increase
L984[15:01:26] <Inari> might just have to
look at lua bytecode
L985[15:01:35] <Vexatos> Indeed
L986[15:01:40] <Vexatos> when it comes to
memory management
L987[15:01:46] <Vexatos> knowing the raw
code is very useful
L988[15:02:18] <Inari> any good bytecode
editor? ;D
L989[15:03:02] <Inari> oh luac has nice
stuff it seems
L990[15:03:03] <vifino> Vexatos: If you
want I can add selene support to |0xDEADBEEF|, too
L991[15:03:49] <Inari> whats nice is that
i can work with native lua fro OC :P not have to fumble in
luaj
L992[15:04:29] <Vexatos> vifino, only do
it if you want to. it does make execution a bit slower and modifies
a lot in _G
L993[15:05:42] <vifino> Vexatos: Not that
bad.
L994[15:05:54] <vifino> |0xDEADBEEF| b
fast nuff!
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L996[15:07:44] <Vexatos> vifino, well,
Kubuxu managed to get it working by a simple git submodule
L997[15:08:02] <Vexatos> and adding the
according path /selene/lib/selene to the path
L998[15:08:24] <Kubuxu> and package.path =
"./Vexatos-Programs/selene/lib/?.lua;./Vexatos-Programs/selene/lib/?/?.lua;./Vexatos-Programs/selene/lib/?/init.lua;"
.. package.path
L999[15:08:30] <vifino> |0xDEADBEEF| isn't
lua and I
L1000[15:08:43] <Vexatos> and, during
boot, you'd need to do >>_G._selene.liveMode=true
require("selene")<<
L1001[15:08:44] <vifino> 'll have to do
some more hackery for that
L1003[15:10:14] <Kubuxu> To manually load
selene code to Lua.
L1004[15:13:43] <nxsupert_> o/
L1005[15:14:15] <Inari> hey, i never knew
lua is limited to 200 locals per function
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L1007[15:15:46] <nxsupert_> 200? Thats
not a very nice number.
L1008[15:15:56] <nxsupert_> Why not use
256?
L1009[15:16:25] <Inari> something
probably uses the other 56 registers
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L1017[15:50:05] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> Inari:
It's not 256 because it would cause a problem with vararg functions
getting clipped and stuff (plus, temporary variables need to be
allocated for calling functions, since Lua depends on positional
placement of function arguments)
L1018[15:50:26] <Inari> WEBDRIVER_TORSO:
so, what i said
L1019[15:50:26] <Inari> :p
L1020[15:50:35] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> yep,
just with more details
L1021[15:50:40] <Inari> ya
L1022[15:51:10] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> if it
let you allocate as many as you wanted up to 256, you would
experience either locals corruption or functions simply not being
called
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L1024[15:51:32] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> locals
corruption seems more likely...
L1025[15:54:15] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> I
opened Android Studio and my storage space went down from 1.3 gbs
to 0.3gbs
L1026[15:55:40] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> so time
to figure out what the fuck it did so I can delete it
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L1028[15:56:50] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO>
wtf
L1029[16:00:05] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> Why the
FUCK is boost literally 120MB of pure fucking headers
L1030[16:00:09] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> that
makes no sense
L1031[16:01:36] <nxsupert_> Thats why I
never use boost :P
L1032[16:01:54] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> I don't
use boost either, I hate when applications say they require
boost
L1033[16:02:02] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> like
WHY? So you can be lazy?
L1034[16:03:44] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> my lib
folder is larger than my bin folder
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L1036[16:04:16] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO>
theoretically, the reason of SHARED LIBRARIES is so that
applications could SHARE common code and REDUCE HDD SPACE
L1037[16:04:20] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> I guess
not
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L1039[16:05:27] <nxsupert_> You working
on Windows or s UNIX-like?
L1040[16:05:32] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO>
Linux
L1041[16:05:40] <nxsupert_> Ok.
L1042[16:05:56] <nxsupert_> Then there
really is no reason.
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L1044[16:08:29] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> steam
insists on having the entirety of Ubuntu 12.04 downloaded because
it thinks that that will make all games 100% compatible-- this is
the reason Garrys Mod doesn't work in Linux.
L1045[16:09:18] <nxsupert_> This is why I
got a Mac in the end.
L1046[16:09:53] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> 100%
wouldn't be able to deal with a Mac, and 100% don't want to
elaborate.
L1047[16:10:31] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> gradle
insists of caching every single gradle version since the beginning
of time on my hdd
L1048[16:11:47] <nxsupert_> I use a mac
simply because OS X is so much more standardised. I don't have to
worry about what graphics driver someone has. It is also easier to
run games on.
L1049[16:13:29] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> :/
Android Studio Maven Cache is ungodly huge
L1050[16:13:48] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> I sooo
dislike Maven and shit like that
L1051[16:14:56] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO>
FFMpeg's libavcodec has 285mb of C source files.
L1052[16:16:02] <gamax92> omfg your
nickname
L1053[16:16:02] <gamax92> why
L1054[16:16:07] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> I have
about 565mb of fucking pdfs for a class I'm not taking
anymore
L1055[16:16:08] <gamax92> ds why the
fuck
L1056[16:16:11] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO>
gamax92: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1057[16:16:45] <gamax92> Gamax92Bot:
rename nickname WEBDRIVER_TORSO to shitlord
L1058[16:16:45] <gamax92> Done
L1059[16:17:14] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> arduino
ide is 400mb of pure GCC
L1060[16:17:23] <gamax92>
"<shitlord> arduino ide is 400mb of pure GCC"
L1061[16:17:39] <nxsupert_> ....
L1062[16:18:19] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> welp,
have about 2.9gb of free space now
L1063[16:18:22] <WEBDRIVER_TORSO> good
job me
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L1065[16:18:40] <Remove_Host> shit
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L1069[16:21:10] <nxsupert_> ....
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L1072[16:28:42] <nxsupert_> lol
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L1075[16:46:53] <PotatoTrumpet>
Helo
L1076[16:46:57] <PotatoTrumpet> ll
L1077[16:46:58] <PotatoTrumpet> ||
L1078[16:47:23] <PotatoTrumpet>
ll||ll||l|l|llIpen
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L1081[17:15:15] <nxsupert_> Is there a
way of converting a number to a 4 char long string?
L1082[17:18:00] <nxsupert_> so 14 to
0014
L1083[17:18:07] <PotatoTrumpet> Is
.tostring a lua thing
L1084[17:18:12] <PotatoTrumpet> or am I
thinking of something else
L1085[17:18:18] <Lizzy> PotatoTrumpet, it
is
L1086[17:18:33] <nxsupert_> That would
work. Except I need to convert 14 to "0014"
L1087[17:18:34] <PotatoTrumpet> :O
L1088[17:18:50] <PotatoTrumpet> just do
var1+var2
L1089[17:18:55] <PotatoTrumpet> .l
test
L1090[17:18:55] <^v> PotatoTrumpet,
nil
L1091[17:19:13] <nxsupert_> ?
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L1093[17:19:51] <PotatoTrumpet> .l
var1="00" var2=14 print(var1..var2.tostring)
L1094[17:19:52] <^v> PotatoTrumpet,
lua:1: attempt to index global 'var2' (a number value)
L1095[17:19:55] <PotatoTrumpet> hrm
L1096[17:20:39] <nxsupert_> That won't
work. Because what if I have , lets say , 321 or 1 or 32 or
6432?
L1097[17:21:03] <PotatoTrumpet> if num
>= 1000 then x
L1098[17:21:06] <PotatoTrumpet> else
y
L1099[17:21:19] <Lizzy> .l
tostring(67)
L1100[17:21:27] <Lizzy> .l return
tostring(67)
L1101[17:21:28] <^v> Lizzy, 67
L1102[17:21:40] <nxsupert_> I'd rather
have a simple 1 line piece of code.
L1103[17:21:43] <PotatoTrumpet> Well,
elseif x >=100 then y
L1104[17:21:49] <vifino> Lizzy! \o/
L1105[17:21:53] *
vifino cuddles Lizzy <3
L1106[17:21:53] <nxsupert_> using some
kind of regex or something.
L1107[17:21:55] <PotatoTrumpet>
nxsupert_, you can fit that all into a line of code
L1108[17:22:04] <Lizzy> i should be
sleeping
L1109[17:22:04] <PotatoTrumpet>
iirc
L1110[17:22:08] <nxsupert_> Not
really.
L1111[17:22:10] *
PotatoTrumpet sends Lizzy to bed
L1112[17:22:23] <nxsupert_> I could. But
it would be ugly.
L1113[17:22:27] <Lizzy> :<
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L1116[17:22:49] *
PotatoTrumpet slaps vifino
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vifino would slap PotatoTrumpet, but is not being violent
today
L1118[17:22:49] *
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L1119[17:22:53] <vifino> I'm her bed!
Deal with it!
L1120[17:22:55] <vifino> D:<
L1121[17:23:13] *
PotatoTrumpet sends Lizzy to vifino
L1122[17:23:19] <Lizzy> k
L1123[17:23:43] *
vifino cuddles Lizzy
L1124[17:24:31] <^v> Lizzy, 67
L1125[17:24:56] <PotatoTrumpet> err
L1126[17:25:00] <Lizzy> I still need to
make my bed :/
L1127[17:25:02] <PotatoTrumpet> ^v, you
crazy
L1128[17:25:02] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, My
sources say no
L1129[17:25:12] <Lizzy> Also delayed
command is delayed
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L1131[17:25:36] <Lizzy> Well, either that
or my chat is slow
L1132[17:25:41] <Lizzy> .p
L1133[17:25:41] <^v> Ping reply from
Lizzy 0.33s
L1134[17:26:13] <PotatoTrumpet> .l var1 =
90 print("00"..tostring(var1)) return v is awesome
L1135[17:26:13] <^v> PotatoTrumpet,
lua:1: <eof> expected near 'is'
L1136[17:26:19] <PotatoTrumpet> .l var1 =
90 print("00"..tostring(var1)) return nil
L1137[17:26:20] <^v> PotatoTrumpet, 0090
| nil
L1138[17:26:21] <Katie> nah it was pretty
slow...
L1139[17:26:47] <PotatoTrumpet> Sources
say it was ~ 2 min
L1140[17:26:51] <Lizzy> Hmm, do I wanna
bother with all of it or just put the bed sheet on then do the rest
tomorrow...
L1141[17:27:46] <PotatoTrumpet> GO. TO.
BED.
L1142[17:28:08] *
vifino slaps PotatoTrumpet
L1143[17:28:09] *
EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L1144[17:28:26] <Temia> Are we murdering
things now? :D
L1145[17:28:30] <Lizzy> PotatoTrumpet, I
can't it's not made
L1146[17:28:44] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Lizzy: just
roll with it
L1147[17:28:49] *
PotatoTrumpet beats vifino with a candy cane
L1148[17:29:04] *
Temia axes Potato <3
L1149[17:29:13] *
vifino eats the candy cane
L1150[17:29:20] <vifino>
Nomnomnomnom.
L1151[17:29:24] *
PotatoTrumpet sends Temia through a pulveriezer
L1152[17:29:33] *
vifino stabs PotatoTrumpet
L1153[17:29:34] *
PotatoTrumpet tells vifino that it had the remains of Ender in
it
L1154[17:29:46] *
PotatoTrumpet shows shiny new clean Lizzy
L1155[17:29:58] <vifino> Leave Temia and
Lizzy the fuck alone q_q
L1156[17:29:59] <Katie> <@MichiBot>
Katie: Zeldo threatens to sue Katie until they remove BetterStorage
from Direwolf20 Pack \o/
L1157[17:30:00] *
Temia climbs out. It appears to have jammed on a chunk of
endermite.
L1158[17:30:45] *
Lizzy is sad
L1159[17:31:03] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Aww
:(
L1160[17:31:09] <vifino> D:
L1161[17:31:17] *
Lizzy starts dismembering PotatoTrumpet
L1162[17:31:58] <Temia> yay murder
<3
L1163[17:32:15] *
PotatoTrumpet shoots lizzy with a revolver
L1164[17:32:32] *
vifino punches PotatoTrumpet's head off
L1165[17:32:32] *
Lizzy heals self
L1166[17:32:53] *
PotatoTrumpet dissapears
L1167[17:32:57] *
vifino grabs PotatoTrumpet's head and kicks it away duke-nukem
style
L1168[17:33:24] *
Lizzy is covered in blood, not all of it is hers
L1169[17:33:30] <Remote_Host> vifino: I
can run lua from hastebin, rite?
L1170[17:33:34] <Remote_Host> on
|0xDEADBEEF|
L1171[17:33:48] *
Remote_Host covers Lizzy with some more blood.
L1172[17:33:50] <Remote_Host> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L1173[17:33:55] <vifino> *du du dun, du
du dun, du du duuduu du dudud dudud*
L1174[17:34:11] *
PotatoTrumpet is immortial
L1175[17:34:22] <Remote_Host>
dundundunduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnndnnnnnndnnnn
L1176[17:34:25] *
PotatoTrumpet has no blood
L1177[17:34:36] <Remote_Host>
%drama
L1178[17:34:36] <MichiBot> Remote_Host:
nekosune complains that Velotican replaced Galacticraft by Forge
MultiPart
L1179[17:34:38] <vifino> Remote_Host:
#gethb idherexxx | lua pcall(loadstring(self))
L1180[17:34:42] <vifino> i think
L1181[17:34:44] <PotatoTrumpet> 5
L1182[17:34:45] <vifino> dunnoooo
L1183[17:34:49] <PotatoTrumpet>
43322
L1184[17:35:06] *
vifino cleans up Lizzy and hugs her tightly
L1185[17:35:27] *
Remote_Host throws blood at both vifino and Lizzy
L1186[17:35:31] <PotatoTrumpet>
dsWell
L1187[17:35:33] <Remote_Host> meh
L1188[17:35:37] <PotatoTrumpet> Time for
afterschool nap
L1189[17:35:42] ***
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L1190[17:35:50] *
vifino goes to shower with Lizzy
L1191[17:36:21] <Lizzy> I had shower
earlier :<
L1192[17:37:15] <vifino> Buuut you are
dirt-- I mean, you are full of blood.
L1193[17:37:24] *
vifino carries Lizzy to the shower
L1194[17:38:54] <Lizzy> Yes, I am full of
blood. As are most creatures
L1195[17:38:54] <Lizzy> Ooh
L1196[17:38:54] *
Lizzy enjoys being carried by vifino
L1197[17:39:28] <vifino> Hehe :3
L1198[17:39:39] <nxsupert_> Hazar. I
finally have some basic text rendering for lnano!
L1199[17:40:20] <Lizzy> In other news,
I've put my bedsheet on my bed and pillow cases on. I am not going
to attempt to put duvet on properly tonight
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L1202[17:42:11] <vifino> nxsupert_: Seems
alright.
L1203[17:42:20] *
vifino yawns
L1204[17:42:37] <vifino> It's... too late
to look at things in detail.
L1205[17:42:41] <nxsupert_> Ok.
L1206[17:42:48] <nxsupert_> Thanks
though.
L1207[17:43:00] *
vifino follows Lizzy and sleeps
L1208[17:43:29] <Lizzy> But I thought you
were carrying me?
L1209[17:43:56] *
vifino carries Lizzy whereever she points
L1210[17:44:22] *
Lizzy points to vifino
L1211[17:44:32] *
vifino blushes
L1212[17:45:27] *
vifino kisses Lizzy and carries her to her bed
L1213[17:46:13] <Lizzy> :3
L1214[17:46:39] <vifino> :3
L1215[17:49:53] *
Lizzy zzz next to vifino, cuddling him
L1216[17:50:21] *
vifino giggles
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L1221[18:15:16] <Katie> _-_
L1222[18:15:21] <Katie> WELL THEN
L1223[18:15:27] <Katie> err caps
L1224[18:16:17] <Katie> .p
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L1230[18:21:48] <Caitlyn> ¬_¬
L1231[18:21:56] <Caitlyn> %p
L1232[18:21:57] <MichiBot> Ping reply
from Caitlyn 0.48s
L1233[18:22:37] <vifino> I love this
ssd.
L1234[18:23:13] <vifino> Feels as fast as
the one built into my laptop, but I have it seperate.
L1235[18:27:13] *
Inari builds a ssd into vifino
L1236[18:30:15] <vifino> Thank
chus.
L1237[18:33:17] <gamax92> I need an
SSD
L1238[18:33:25] <gamax92> even if its
like the smallest SSD I need one
L1239[18:33:44] *
vifino gives gamax92 a 1mb ssd
L1240[18:33:59] <gamax92> perfect, its
the fastest floppy ever
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L1244[19:47:11] <gamax92> %p
L1245[19:47:12] <MichiBot> Ping reply
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L1252[20:44:04] <dangranos> XD
L1253[20:44:51] <dangranos> now that
admin yells at people (on his forum) about not reading what robot
can do on plot (blame some shitty protection plugin "Grief
Protection")
L1254[20:45:33] <gamax92> wheres
this
L1255[20:45:35] <dangranos> robots can
use items on plots, like any items (and that was a reason for
banning drones too)
L1256[20:45:52] <dangranos> gamax92,
that's semi-normal russian serer
L1257[20:45:54] <dangranos> *server
L1258[20:46:00] <gamax92> Oh
L1259[20:46:08] <gamax92> I don't speak
russian so
L1260[20:47:43] <dangranos> you havent
seen me whining on same admin/server about printers?
L1261[20:49:42] <dangranos> he nerfed
them into hell (everything is requires 10 times more material,
energy and time, AND chamelium yeild ~200 points plus chamelium is
crafted out of 2 iridium and 1 sunnarium (ofc there is
"Freebie" once in 2 days in which you get 1 1/9 sunarium
and 1 iridium))
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L1263[20:57:06] <Kilobyte> o/
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