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L4[00:29:40] <Kodos> It's more commonly known as chronic fatigue syndrome
L5[00:30:00] <Kodos> But it's why I've been sleeping and hurting so much the last... 3 months
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L32[04:54:54] <Lizzy> huh, ZNC has a newer version, will check it out later
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L35[05:30:27] <Kubuxu> LOL: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer $9 RPi clone...
L36[05:32:27] <Izaya> Kubuxu, reasonable specs though
L37[05:34:34] <Izaya> as long as it doesn't run Ubuntu I guess
L38[05:40:43] <Negi> That's not really a clone...
L39[05:41:35] <Izaya> I want one of the portable ones
L40[05:41:59] <Izaya> I don't care for the touchscreen, but a portable terminal-based PDA would be damn nice
L41[05:43:05] <Negi> Izaya: That'll be $98 :')
L42[05:43:46] <Lizzy> i'll stick to one of the 2 RPis i have
L43[05:43:58] <Izaya> $49 if I don't want video out besides the touchscreen
L44[05:44:11] <Lizzy> which if i get a battery pack, i could use portable
L45[05:44:39] <Izaya> Still, one with VGA out would be nice
L46[05:44:46] <Izaya> though, one with ethernet would be better
L47[05:45:06] <Lizzy> Izaya, are you talking about the chip thing or an RPi?
L48[05:45:13] <Izaya> chip
L49[05:45:13] <Negi> Maybe they'll make one someday.
L50[05:45:16] <Lizzy> ah
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L52[05:46:00] <Kubuxu> Izaya, there is PortableCHIP which has touchscreen and battery.
L53[05:46:06] <Izaya> It'd make a nice portable ssh terminal
L54[05:46:10] <Izaya> Kubuxu, I saw.
L55[05:46:15] <Kubuxu> Yeah.
L56[05:46:47] <Kubuxu> $9 is so cheap that you can use it instead of arduino if you really want.
L57[05:47:03] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Izaya
L58[05:47:04] <Kubuxu> I will still stick with ATmega8 for small things.
L59[05:47:17] * Lizzy cuddles DeanIsaKitty, making a cuddling conga
L60[05:47:43] <Izaya> Kubuxu, that's cheaper than an Arduino here.
L61[05:47:50] <Izaya> An arduino here is $50 for the cheapest one
L62[05:48:15] <Kubuxu> Really. What about arduino nano.
L63[05:48:16] <Kubuxu> ?
L64[05:49:07] <Kubuxu> I do not use arduino because of it's price, in 90% of cases I have to do PCB and ATmega8/8U/88 is much cheaper.
L65[05:49:27] <Izaya> Kubuxu, no such thing here
L66[05:49:30] <Kubuxu> Oh.
L67[05:49:49] <Izaya> you have the Freetronics Eleven as the cheapest from Jaycar, which is the only electronics shop here that sells components
L68[05:49:56] <Magik6k> Arduino is just idiotproof atmega
L69[05:50:25] <Izaya> an atmega328 here is $20
L70[05:50:30] <Magik6k> wat
L71[05:50:38] <Izaya> welcome to Australia
L72[05:50:42] <Magik6k> that's like at least 4x normal price
L73[05:50:58] <Izaya> there's a reason I built my own arduino-compatible out of engineering samples and one of those fancy DIP chips
L74[05:51:11] <Kubuxu> Izaya, but in most cases you need only ATmega8 and in real business ATmega128
L75[05:51:28] <Izaya> I like my 16k of RAM
L76[05:51:34] <Lizzy> i wonder how hard it would be to send IP data over a RPi's GPIO pins to another pi and have connections going back and forth
L77[05:51:39] <Kubuxu> I code AVR in ASM...
L78[05:51:47] <Izaya> Does the RPi have SPI or similar?
L79[05:51:55] <Lizzy> i have no idea
L80[05:52:04] <Kubuxu> Izaya, yes it has SPI/UART/I2C
L81[05:52:08] <Izaya> Just run SLIP or PPP over the SPI or I2C or UART
L82[05:52:13] <Magik6k> Lizzy, just dont use ethernet standard and send bare data from tun/tap device
L83[05:52:16] <Lizzy> i haven't ever actually used the RPi's GPIO stuff
L84[05:52:16] <Negi> All I know is that the RPi's GPIO aren't something I'd use.
L85[05:52:39] <Lizzy> Magik6k: ?
L86[05:52:56] <Kubuxu> Lizzy, Ethernet is standard for Ethernet cable.
L87[05:53:03] <Lizzy> i know that
L88[05:53:10] <Kubuxu> You can use whatever transmission standard you want.
L89[05:53:16] <Magik6k> ^
L90[05:53:17] <Izaya> so layer 0 is physical, or is that layer 1?
L91[05:53:21] <Kubuxu> 0
L92[05:53:32] <Izaya> so layer 0 is the ethernet cable
L93[05:53:37] <Izaya> and layer 1 are ethernet frames?
L94[05:54:16] <Kubuxu> 0 is raw data transmission 1 is framing.
L95[05:54:41] <Kubuxu> sorry 1 is physical 2 is data.
L96[05:54:44] <Kubuxu> there is no 0
L97[05:54:57] <Magik6k> yep
L98[05:55:03] <Izaya> https://linux-sunxi.org/images/e/eb/A13_Datasheet.pdf hm, the CHIP processor is nice
L99[05:55:36] <Izaya> what I want to do is hook up cables between 2
L100[05:55:37] <Kubuxu> gtg, exam in one hour.
L101[05:55:40] <Izaya> bai
L102[05:55:47] <Izaya> and then transfer data like on a gameboy
L103[05:56:02] <Magik6k> less fucked up than one in RPI(at bare-metal leval)?
L104[05:57:00] <Izaya> well, it's a Cortex A8
L105[05:57:19] <Izaya> single core only unfortunately
L106[05:59:01] <Magik6k> Well, I worked on bare-metal port of opencomputers to RPi
L107[06:00:20] <Magik6k> the biggest problem on RPi is the usb
L108[06:01:23] <nxsupert_> o/
L109[06:01:29] <Magik6k> o/
L110[06:03:15] <Izaya> needs moar USB?
L111[06:03:55] <nxsupert_> RPi 2/B+ has 4 USB ports. Thats more than my Mac Book Pro.
L112[06:04:50] <Magik6k> I have B+ somewhere
L113[06:05:06] <Negi> RPi 1B has two USB ports, that's more than the new Macbook.
L114[06:06:05] <nxsupert_> You can do everything you can do on the Arduino on the RPi.
L115[06:07:12] <Magik6k> but RPi is WAY easier to break
L116[06:08:21] <Izaya> Negi, it's probably more powerful too.
L117[06:08:38] <Magik6k> lel: https://twitter.com/Raspberry_Pi/status/598753703718428673
L118[06:08:56] <Negi> nxsupert_: There are no protections on the Pi's GPIO. :I
L119[06:09:04] <nxsupert_> Yes. But anyone with basic electronics knowledge would know how to keep it safe.
L120[06:09:23] <Negi> Mistakes are human.
L121[06:09:40] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, In arduino you don't even need that knowledge
L122[06:09:45] <Izaya> Humans are mistake.
L123[06:10:27] <Negi> :')
L124[06:11:12] <nxsupert_> I guess. But still. RPi's are so much more powerful. I can talk to the internet , hook up a GPS system , Run an MC server on it , etc etc.
L125[06:11:52] <Negi> You can connect to internet with the proper shields, use a GPS too with Arduino.
L126[06:12:13] <Negi> The only thing you can't probably do is running a MC server, and even that I'm not sure, because Arduino Yun.
L127[06:13:12] <nxsupert_> Om. But could you turn an Arduino into an N64?
L128[06:13:16] <Izaya> you can run UNIX on an Arduino
L129[06:13:28] <Izaya> only v6 is supported so far though
L130[06:13:57] <Magik6k> I've seen a russian running linux on some poor atmega
L131[06:14:49] <Magik6k> that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm0POwEtiqE
L132[06:14:49] -Kibibyte- [Magik6k] https://youtube.com/devicesupport | by youtubehelp | 3m56s | 3w5d ago | 12,180,171 views | Rated: -1.00/5.00
L133[06:14:49] <MichiBot1> Magik6k: Linux on an 8-bit micro! | length 10m 57s | Likes: 574 Dislikes: 16 Views: 221172 | by dmitrygr
L134[06:15:15] <Negi> nxsupert_: Arduino isn't just the Uno, btw.
L135[06:16:06] <nxsupert_> I guess
L136[06:16:35] <nxsupert_> But I'd choose my RPi2 over any Arduino any day.
L137[06:17:47] <Negi> Heh, an Arduino Yun is basically the same as a RPi, except you got to use a whole Arduino from Python on a complete Linux. :I
L138[06:18:59] <nxsupert_> By the looks of it. The RPi 2 is still more powerful.
L139[06:19:38] <Izaya> I think I'd have to custom-compile a kernel and stuff so I could get arch on that CHIP thing
L140[06:19:46] <Izaya> just recompile the whole thing
L141[06:19:47] <Izaya> why not
L142[06:19:55] <Izaya> it's a 1Ghz processor, how long can it take?
L143[06:20:04] <nxsupert_> ?
L144[06:20:17] <Izaya> I say as I want for the kernel on my 1.133Ghz Pentium III box to compile its kernel
L145[06:20:18] <DeanIsaKitty> I don't really get why yall make such a differenciation between Arduino and Raspis. They are all computers in this sense. If their architecture is x86 or ARM or AVR or MIPS or whatever doesn't make a difference really. They all do the same.
L146[06:20:22] <Magik6k> Why not crosscompile?
L147[06:20:35] <Izaya> Magik6k, 'cause it's fun.
L148[06:21:21] <Magik6k> I compiled linux(~3.2 iirc) on rpi once
L149[06:21:23] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, I tend to think Arduinos are for use where the performance of an RPi isn't neccesary, while RPis are used where you don't need super-precise timing
L150[06:22:04] <Magik6k> +Arduinos need way less power
L151[06:22:26] <Izaya> good point
L152[06:22:26] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Both can do both really. You can run bare-metal with a RPi/similar but you could run Linux on an Arduino - at least theoretically.
L153[06:22:47] <Izaya> well, I'm watching a guy running Linux on an AVR so...
L154[06:22:59] <Izaya> looks horrifically slow but anyway
L155[06:23:02] <Magik6k> bare-matal on RPi is painful
L156[06:23:32] <Izaya> Could you compile UNIX (like, the 16-bit variants) for the 65C816?
L157[06:24:09] <Izaya> it supports up to 16MiB RAM
L158[06:24:24] <Izaya> and if you got a good chip you could definitely overclock it a fair bit
L159[06:26:11] * Izaya hmms
L160[06:27:38] <nxsupert_> You can do precise timing on RPi if you go bare metal.
L161[06:27:59] <Negi> Going bare-metal on a Pi must be painful.
L162[06:28:06] <Magik6k> it is
L163[06:28:19] <Magik6k> this cpu boots off gpu
L164[06:28:36] <nxsupert_> Once you have the basics though it is fairly easy to modify the GPIO.
L165[06:29:12] <Magik6k> well, easy: https://github.com/StarChasers/LuPi/blob/master/src/driver/gpio/gpio.s
L166[06:29:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: iirc 65C816 can emulate 65C02 which is a true superset of 6502. Not completely sure though.
L167[06:30:23] <nxsupert_> Using a simple API I wrote I got it down to gpio_outputSet(25);
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L170[07:15:09] <Sangar> o/
L171[07:15:19] <Vexatos> \o
L172[07:15:42] <nxsupert_> o/
L173[07:15:46] <Vexatos> Sangar: https://twitter.com/DanTwoHundred/status/598480590686531584 Functionality looking familiar?
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L175[07:17:06] <Sangar> Vexatos, yeah, was thinking of checkArg right away, too :P
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L177[07:17:33] <nxsupert_> https://twitter.com/DanTwoHundred/status/598818476577452032
L178[07:17:51] <nxsupert_> Bit... ummm
L179[07:17:51] <Sangar> yeah, kinda disappointed by that response :/
L180[07:18:08] <nxsupert_> Competition can only be good.
L181[07:19:08] <Vexatos> hurr
L182[07:19:17] <Sangar> could still be a "don't want to know about it so people can't say i got ideas from it" kind of thing. which would still be... meh, but eh.
L183[07:19:18] <nxsupert_> That and in reality , the only similarity between OC and CC is they add computers. They way they go about it is completely diffrent.
L184[07:19:39] <Vexatos> It's like, he intentionally keeps his stuff worse than OC
L185[07:19:40] <dangranos> huh
L186[07:19:53] <Vexatos> so there is no way on earth he could be accused of copying from OC
L187[07:19:55] <Sangar> yeah, that was the idea from the start; just wasn't as obvious in the beginning when there was less... stuff :X
L188[07:20:13] <Sangar> heh
L189[07:20:16] <Cruor> Vexatos: CC works internaly?
L190[07:20:16] <Cruor> http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/topic/22861-1710-sleep-sleeping-for-incorrect-amount-of-ticks/
L191[07:20:29] <Vexatos> Cruor, what do you mean
L192[07:20:57] <Vexatos> Yes, CC pretty much only has internal libraries
L193[07:21:02] <Vexatos> java classes
L194[07:21:22] <Sangar> *if* the rendering stuff he's been posting recently is for cc, that'll be cool. kinda sceptical, still, but would be cool. though i'm curious how it'd affect bandwidth use :P
L195[07:21:42] <Cruor> Sangar: if it isnt for CC... i will die inside
L196[07:21:53] <Cruor> now if dan could read bug reports, dat be great
L197[07:21:55] <Vexatos> Sangar, as people said, it will be even easier to DoS servers now
L198[07:21:58] <dangranos> ew
L199[07:22:05] <Vexatos> no way to make THAT stuff safe the way CC is currently done
L200[07:22:48] <Vexatos> s/bug reports//g
L201[07:22:48] <MichiBot1> <Cruor> now if dan could read , dat be great
L202[07:22:49] <Kibibyte> <Cruor> now if dan could read , dat be great
L203[07:23:04] <nxsupert_> Uh Oh
L204[07:23:04] <dangranos> stahp pinging me
L205[07:23:07] <dangranos> Q_Q
L206[07:23:11] <Cruor> s/./&&/
L207[07:23:12] <Kibibyte> <dangranos> &&_Q
L208[07:23:14] <Vexatos> We have dan and CC in here
L209[07:23:17] <Cruor> s/./&&/g
L210[07:23:17] <MichiBot1> <Cruor> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
L211[07:23:17] <Kibibyte> <Vexatos> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
L212[07:23:18] * Vexatos pokes dangranos and CompanionCube
L213[07:23:19] <Vexatos> :3
L214[07:23:21] <Cruor> uhhhhh
L215[07:23:26] <Sangar> <_>
L216[07:23:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, bad choice of pings
L217[07:23:36] <Cruor> do i want \1 instead? <_>
L218[07:23:42] <Cruor> **** SED bots anyway
L219[07:24:51] <Lizzy> %SED disable
L220[07:24:57] <Lizzy> %sed disable
L221[07:24:58] <MichiBot1> Lizzy: Disabled SED for this channel
L222[07:25:44] <Sangar> i need more ram :/
L223[07:25:58] <Cruor> just download some D:
L224[07:26:00] <Vexatos> Sangar, well, CC was never meant to be used for gameplay, so DoS potential doesn't matter
L225[07:26:03] <Sangar> right, there was that
L226[07:26:10] <nxsupert_> Use swap :P
L227[07:26:28] <Lizzy> %yt disable
L228[07:26:28] <MichiBot1> Lizzy: Disabled YTInfo for this channel
L229[07:26:28] <Sangar> Vexatos, i suppose so
L230[07:26:31] <Vexatos> Noone was ever supposed to use CC outside of educational purposes but people forgot >_>
L231[07:26:37] <Sangar> hah
L232[07:26:52] <Vexatos> People like Cruor ;_;
L233[07:27:09] * Lizzy burns Cruor on the steak
L234[07:27:16] <dangranos> OC uuids looks suspiciosly like partition uuids
L235[07:27:19] <Cruor> Vexatos: i would use OC if it wasnt a PITA to get started
L236[07:27:28] <Cruor> because redundant crafting <_<
L237[07:27:32] <dangranos> meh
L238[07:27:40] <Lizzy> Cruor, you can change that, you know?
L239[07:27:45] <dangranos> AE2 autocrafting is good way to go
L240[07:27:47] <Cruor> i have changed that <_<
L241[07:27:50] <dangranos> or what lizzy said
L242[07:27:57] <Lizzy> then why are you complaining?
L243[07:27:59] <Sangar> Cruor, again, you're invited to contribute a vanilla/simple recipe set :P
L244[07:28:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, he already did
L245[07:28:13] <Sangar> he did? where's the pr?
L246[07:28:15] <Cruor> because i currently dont really have any motivation to use either of the mods
L247[07:28:16] <dangranos> yeeeep
L248[07:28:22] <Vexatos> Sangar, no PR
L249[07:28:25] <nxsupert_> I don't think I have ever done any OC stuff in survival.
L250[07:28:34] <Sangar> Vexatos, i said "contribute", not make :P
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L252[07:28:39] <Vexatos> just hypocrisy P:
L253[07:28:39] <Vexatos> Ah
L254[07:28:44] <Vexatos> Well, Blame Cruor
L255[07:28:50] * Lizzy blames Cruor
L256[07:28:56] <Lizzy> :P
L257[07:28:59] <Cruor> my recipes wouldnt be fit for a "basic recipes" either way
L258[07:29:05] <Vexatos> Lizzy: "EnderBot2, blame *". now
L259[07:29:06] <Cruor> it fits for P&D, nothing more, really
L260[07:29:12] <Lizzy> Vexatos, hold on
L261[07:29:19] <Sangar> also i honestly don't think the recipes are much more "microcrafty" than most other common tech mods :/
L262[07:29:28] * Lizzy goes to see if she can ssh into heyo from work
L263[07:29:34] <Cruor> Sangar: common tech mods are also annoying ;_;
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L265[07:29:38] <Sangar> ah
L266[07:29:39] <Sangar> well then :P
L267[07:29:45] <Vexatos> Sangar, fun fact, when I started convincing Vaygrim to add OC to his pack
L268[07:30:03] <Vexatos> he was all kinds of "we need to get our own recipes to get rid of all that microcrafting"
L269[07:30:06] <Vexatos> then he started OC once
L270[07:30:13] <Vexatos> and realized it wasn't microcrafy at all :P
L271[07:30:16] <Sangar> ^^
L272[07:30:30] <Cruor> main problem with the recipes were that they didnt fit for P&D
L273[07:30:37] <Vexatos> Now OC is in there with default recipes, and VC is considered a "conventional" pack, configs set to make things as convenient as possible
L274[07:30:49] <Cruor> because having drones/robots as the only transportation block is kinda uhhh...
L275[07:30:52] <Vexatos> (For instance dimensional transceivers from EnderIO not consuming any upkeep power)
L276[07:30:56] <Cruor> i aint going to the end for making a damn drone
L277[07:31:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, the only recipe changed was one added. A recipe for OPPM
L278[07:31:20] <Vexatos> It was a floppy + interweb
L279[07:31:21] <dangranos> 9f8c58e5-e06a-4c74-9406-17278b502407 and 909eb899-c10e-4609-be6b-1d9c2cd687ab
L280[07:31:30] <dangranos> which one is OC and which one is RL?
L281[07:31:32] <dangranos> :D
L282[07:31:40] <Sangar> Vexatos, heh, nice :D
L283[07:31:42] <Vexatos> When you added that OPPM recipe I was all "what the actual fridge"
L284[07:31:45] <Sangar> haha
L285[07:31:50] <Vexatos> Like you spied on me or something
L286[07:31:52] <Sangar> well it's just... logical :X
L287[07:32:07] <Vexatos> dangranos, they are generated just like Reallife ones
L288[07:32:14] <Sangar> Cruor, there's a recipe for endstone now! ;)
L289[07:32:14] <dangranos> because interwebs+disk=interwebs disk
L290[07:32:19] <Vexatos> Sangar, that internet card recipe though
L291[07:32:19] <dangranos> endstone?
L292[07:32:24] <Sangar> (because that was a concern that came up a couple of times)
L293[07:32:26] <Vexatos> Sangar: What
L294[07:32:28] <Vexatos> how
L295[07:32:39] <Lizzy> .shutdown
L296[07:32:39] <EnderBot2> Bye bye
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L298[07:32:39] <Cruor> Sangar: .-. and what would that be
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L300[07:32:44] <Vexatos> You shouldn't be allowed to craft end stone, rather have a substitute recipe
L301[07:32:45] zsh sets mode: +v on EnderBot2
L302[07:32:49] <Vexatos> not requiring end stone
L303[07:32:50] <Sangar> similar to how te does it, just less efficient because it doesn't need energy and a machine
L304[07:32:54] <dangranos> 3x3 diamonds?
L305[07:32:57] <Vexatos> but you must not make end stone craft-able
L306[07:32:58] <Lizzy> EnderBot2, blame Cruor
L307[07:32:59] * EnderBot2 blames Cruor
L308[07:33:01] <Lizzy> :P
L309[07:33:05] <Lizzy> there you go Vexatos
L310[07:33:06] <Vexatos> k thanks
L311[07:33:22] <dangranos> Lizzy, no dynamic reload?
L312[07:33:22] <Vexatos> Sangar, rather make some "fake end stone"
L313[07:33:32] <Vexatos> but do. not. mess. with. vanilla. balance
L314[07:33:34] <Sangar> Vexatos, there are already ways in other mods for that, so i honestly don't see much of an issue with it?
L315[07:33:45] <nxsupert_> Is there any chance we will get a dd program in OpenOS?
L316[07:33:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, OC is all built around Vanilla
L317[07:33:56] <Vexatos> with recipes requiring only vanilla resources, etc
L318[07:34:05] <Magik6k> there should be option te relink linked cards in crafting grid
L319[07:34:14] <Vexatos> And adding a recipe for end stone messes with a LOT of mods' balance
L320[07:34:20] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, my os has dd
L321[07:34:20] <Lizzy> dangranos, not in EnderBot2
L322[07:34:33] <Sangar> Vexatos, crafting materials, sorta. everything else? not really. power e.g. :P
L323[07:34:34] <dangranos> wry?
L324[07:34:37] <Vexatos> Again, Sangar, add some fake end stone; chamelium + something or whatever
L325[07:34:45] <vifino> dangranos: Because no need?
L326[07:34:49] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, it even works with computronics tapes
L327[07:34:50] <Vexatos> and allow drones to use that+
L328[07:34:53] <Lizzy> dangranos, was that "why" directed at me?
L329[07:34:55] <Vexatos> drone recipe*
L330[07:34:57] <nxsupert_> Ohh
L331[07:35:00] <Vexatos> like, just add a second recipe
L332[07:35:07] <dangranos> and to sangor too i guess
L333[07:35:10] <Vexatos> or add both to some new (!) oredict entry
L334[07:35:11] <dangranos> *sangar >_,
L335[07:35:13] <nxsupert_> Where is this OS?
L336[07:35:21] <dangranos> nxsupert_, mpt
L337[07:35:31] <Sangar> Vexatos, if you can give me a concrete example where it breaks something, gladly, but i honestly couldn't think of one. i had a bunch of mods in there, and nothing used endstone (for something sensitive anyway)
L338[07:35:48] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, oppm install mpt; mpt -S plan9k mpt --root=/mnt/somedrive
L339[07:35:48] <Vexatos> Sangar: Any mod requiring end stone to craft 'cause end game
L340[07:35:50] <Vexatos> literally any mod
L341[07:36:05] <Sangar> Vexatos, such as? :P
L342[07:36:22] <Vexatos> Any mod balanced around Vanilla, you probably don't have those in your dev env
L343[07:36:24] <dangranos> mpt -Syu plan9k --root=/mnt/somedisk
L344[07:36:33] <dangranos> Magik6k, DAMN YOU
L345[07:36:35] <dangranos> sorry
L346[07:36:37] <Vexatos> And So far OC works well in almost every mod pack
L347[07:36:40] <dangranos> damn ninjas...
L348[07:36:45] <Magik6k> dangranos, -y is not standard
L349[07:36:50] <Vexatos> as it's only as overpowered as the mods it exists with
L350[07:37:00] <Magik6k> i.e. it's auto accept for now
L351[07:37:18] <Sangar> ehh, i'll think about it
L352[07:37:19] <dangranos> Magik6k, sorry, i added it automatically
L353[07:37:25] <Magik6k> hehe
L354[07:37:38] <Lizzy> dangranos, if that "why?" was directed to me saying that EnderBot2 doesn't do dynamic reloading: It doesn't do that because it was never designed to do so, EnderBot3 is however
L355[07:37:40] <dangranos> but still, add a local db that updates with -y
L356[07:37:49] <dangranos> Lizzy, oh, okay
L357[07:37:51] <Vexatos> Sangar, just, uuh, 4 ender pearls + 4 chamelium -> 4 end stone
L358[07:37:58] <dangranos> 2 endstone
L359[07:37:58] <Vexatos> then it's 100% doable without visiting the end
L360[07:38:00] <Magik6k> dangranos, there is no local db
L361[07:38:04] <Vexatos> but doesn't change actual end stone
L362[07:38:16] <Sangar> Vexatos, it's currently 4 pearls, 4 sandstone, 1 coal block
L363[07:38:17] <dangranos> Magik6k, but it's so slow do download them
L364[07:38:34] <dangranos> oppm is even slower when you try to install some endlist package
L365[07:38:35] <dangranos> maybe
L366[07:38:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, yeah, 4 chamelium is redstone, coal and gravel.... maybe a chamelium block as you get so much chamelium per recipe
L367[07:39:09] <Vexatos> 4 chamelium blocks + 4 ender pearls makes fake end stone
L368[07:39:13] <Vexatos> would even make sense
L369[07:39:18] <Magik6k> updates are done via sending packado md5 sums to server, then it responds with list of upgradable packages
L370[07:39:18] <Vexatos> considering what chamelium does
L371[07:39:34] <Magik6k> *package
L372[07:39:40] <Vexatos> Chamelium is made for faking other blocks, so faking end stone would indeed make sense
L373[07:40:02] <Vexatos> and 4 chamelium blocks + 4 ender pearls -> 4 fake end stone is reasonably expensive for a drone as well
L374[07:40:16] <Vexatos> as drones are pretty advanced
L375[07:40:22] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L376[07:40:59] <Sangar> that's the thing really, i see more as a similar tier to robots, but with different usecases :/
L377[07:41:14] <Magik6k> lol, I think I have hudge problem wirh my netmork
L378[07:41:24] <Lizzy> right, back to coding EnderBot3
L379[07:41:36] <Magik6k> time to grab spoofing card
L380[07:42:14] <Sangar> in other news http://gfycat.com/FrigidChillyCaiman
L381[07:42:35] <Vexatos> Sangar, well, would still be fine, as it really only requires 8 gravel, 4 coal and 4 (6?) redstone and 4 ender pearls
L382[07:42:41] <Vexatos> not much, do you think
L383[07:42:52] <Sangar> yeah
L384[07:42:58] <Vexatos> See?
L385[07:43:09] <Vexatos> I think it's quite a nice recipe
L386[07:43:13] <Sangar> i'd still like an actual use-case of skystone :X
L387[07:43:21] <Vexatos> considering it'd produce 4 fake end stone
L388[07:43:25] <Vexatos> so enough to make one drone
L389[07:43:34] <Vexatos> from a little bit of gravel, coal and redstone
L390[07:43:38] <Vexatos> (plus the 4 ender pearls)
L391[07:43:59] <Vexatos> Sangar, again, oredict them both to some "oc:fakeEndStone"
L392[07:44:00] <Sangar> yeah. i actually did think about using that, but then saw the te recipe for skystone
L393[07:44:02] <Vexatos> and use that
L394[07:44:08] <Sangar> so i made it similar to that
L395[07:44:13] <Vexatos> or just add a second recipe
L396[07:44:19] <Vexatos> Do. Not. Balance. Against. TE.
L397[07:44:24] <Vexatos> Remember the steam dynamo
L398[07:44:27] <Sangar> :P
L399[07:44:55] <Vexatos> Yea, sooo, for fancy NEI, I recommend making a new oredict entry and add end stone and fake end stone to it
L400[07:45:06] <Vexatos> Call it "levitating chamelium" or something
L401[07:45:09] <Sangar> yeah, that's what i'm thinking
L402[07:45:12] <Vexatos> and advertise it being able to float
L403[07:45:18] <Vexatos> (Like almost any other MC block)
L404[07:45:21] <Vexatos> but it can float!
L405[07:45:24] <Sangar> psssst
L406[07:45:26] <nxsupert_> I am assuming you os is still WIP Magik6k?
L407[07:45:27] <Vexatos> Exactly+
L408[07:45:36] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, it is
L409[07:45:44] <Vexatos> Sangar: Could even make the hover upgrade use it
L410[07:46:04] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, that's why it's on mpt
L411[07:46:38] <Sangar> Vexatos, true
L412[07:46:49] <nxsupert_> Like the fact it has dev/ implemented though.
L413[07:47:17] <Vexatos> Some fancy tooltip like "The latest product of MightyPirates Industries™, a block that levitates! Believe it or not, but this block can float on its own! Try making drones with it. Disclaimer: Does not work with <any mod that adds proper gravity>"
L414[07:47:20] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L415[07:47:48] <Vexatos> Something like that >_>
L416[07:48:22] * Cruor dies of boredness
L417[07:48:43] <Vexatos> 8 gravel, 4 coal and 4 (6?) redstone and 4 ender pearls would then give you enough fake endstone to make 1 drone and you'd even have 14 chamelium left
L418[07:48:49] <Vexatos> Cruor, boredom*
L419[07:48:56] <Cruor> boredety
L420[07:49:01] <Vexatos> bore
L421[07:49:17] <Vexatos> too bored to write "boredom" or "bored!"
L422[07:49:55] <dangranos> hm, and add that to angel upgrade
L423[07:50:15] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L424[07:50:24] <Vexatos> Angel and hover upgrade and drones and HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111one
L425[07:50:25] <dangranos> and those new levitation upgrades
L426[07:50:28] <Vexatos> I need to go now
L427[07:50:30] <Vexatos> bai
L428[07:50:34] <dangranos> *hover
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L432[07:51:46] <Vexatos> Sangar: https://twitter.com/DanTwoHundred/status/598826570128695296
L433[07:51:54] <Vexatos> Bye now, for real
L434[07:52:39] <Magik6k> wat
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L436[07:53:17] <dangranos> i expect a explicit copypaste
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L438[07:56:43] <dangranos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkEnsHK8r6U we need a clone of that for OC
L439[07:56:43] -Kibibyte- [dangranos] https://youtube.com/devicesupport | by youtubehelp | 3m56s | 3w5d ago | 12,466,81 views | Rated: -1.00/5.00
L440[07:56:52] <dangranos> lol
L441[07:56:59] <dangranos> rated -1/5
L442[07:57:10] <dangranos> btw, FIX YOUR DAMN BOT, sorry
L443[07:57:29] <nxsupert_> Whats wrong with the bot?
L444[07:57:52] <dangranos> youtube/google api
L445[07:57:56] <dangranos> that's what
L446[07:58:47] <nxsupert_> Tapes just store raw binary data don't they?
L447[07:58:53] <dangranos> yeah
L448[07:58:57] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, yep
L449[07:59:06] <dangranos> there should be few FS for them
L450[07:59:14] <dangranos> not sure if they're working one
L451[07:59:20] <Sangar> sooo... it's a nice gui for "place item from slot x into inventory, emit redstone, take item back out"?
L452[07:59:32] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, in my os they are block devices at /dev/tapeX
L453[07:59:53] <nxsupert_> Yes. i tried to run ls for it. It crashed.
L454[08:00:10] <dangranos> Sangar, yep
L455[08:00:24] <Magik6k> well it's a file
L456[08:00:31] <Magik6k> or did you do ls /dev?
L457[08:00:39] <Sangar> well. nice gui, i guess ;)
L458[08:00:44] <nxsupert_> ls dev/tape1
L459[08:00:47] <dangranos> Sangar, ;)
L460[08:01:46] <Magik6k> that's probably missing check in devfs proxy
L461[08:03:56] <nxsupert_> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7fbdbd27dd0050fb0e46
L462[08:04:18] <dangranos> "Increased the bitrate on most Computronics textures, they should look much better now." oh you
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L466[08:06:33] <nxsupert_> So does your OS treat a tape as a file system or a file?
L467[08:06:56] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, block device(so a file)
L468[08:07:03] <nxsupert_> Ok
L469[08:07:15] <Magik6k> just like /dev/sda in linux
L470[08:07:33] <nxsupert_> Ahh
L471[08:07:51] <Magik6k> in future I'll implement some mkfs/mount stuff
L472[08:08:08] <Magik6k> fat16 filesystem I think
L473[08:11:07] <dangranos> https://gist.github.com/dangranos/19b3162bcf83e6e3d58d my awful attempt to create tape fs
L474[08:11:15] <dangranos> from half of year ago
L475[08:12:07] <dangranos> there still could be some tabs..
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L479[08:40:23] <Inari> tapes sound pretty slow
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L481[08:40:32] <Inari> ah, read can take a lenght wiht OC
L482[08:40:34] <Inari> so nto that slow
L483[08:43:39] <Inari> asie: there arent actually any competent MC clones, at least none I've seen
L484[08:44:06] <nxsupert_> Creativerse?
L485[08:44:52] <asie> Inari: and i want to make my own
L486[08:44:56] <asie> well, not really a clone
L487[08:45:03] <asie> i have serious issues with the design of both MC and mods
L488[08:45:31] <Inari> competent meaning, better performance, better design, better modding capability and integration (mods working together) etc xD
L489[08:45:33] <Inari> and just like
L490[08:45:35] <Inari> not sucking
L491[08:45:45] <nxsupert_> I am rather interested to see what eloram is cooking up.
L492[08:45:47] <asie> Inari: that's true
L493[08:45:55] <asie> nxsupert_: terrible graphics design, she's making Terasology's mistakes
L494[08:46:04] <asie> also no real modding to speak of confirmed
L495[08:46:11] <Inari> terasology?
L496[08:46:15] <asie> Inari: it's a MC clone
L497[08:46:26] <nxsupert_> Whats wrong with the graphics design?
L498[08:46:33] <asie> nxsupert_: there's a mix and match of detail
L499[08:46:35] <asie> and an abuse of shaders
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L501[08:46:54] <nxsupert_> That doesn't really bother me.
L502[08:46:56] <Inari> hm yeah, looks a bit off
L503[08:47:23] <nxsupert_> And she has been talking about modding a lot. Well , was a while back.
L504[08:47:44] <Inari> is her game opensource?
L505[08:48:16] <Inari> caus elike, someone will have to update it when she vanishes another 6 months to play moba :p
L506[08:48:57] <nxsupert_> True...
L507[08:49:45] <Inari> im not sure if the whole relfection stuff fits into a block asethetic super-well xD
L508[08:51:08] <nxsupert_> Well. Still. It is written in c++ , which is a massive improvement from MC.
L509[08:51:36] <Inari> meh, java isnt exactly bad
L510[08:51:43] <Inari> though c++/rust i'd like :P
L511[08:51:46] <asie> Java?
L512[08:51:49] <asie> Superior to C++ in my view.
L513[08:51:51] <asie> Yes.
L514[08:51:59] <asie> C++ is a badly designed piece of shit that's only used due to inertia.
L515[08:51:59] <nxsupert_> It is slow.
L516[08:52:02] <asie> No.
L517[08:52:06] <Inari> with most stuff now it matters more on how good your algorithm is
L518[08:52:08] <Inari> than on what you use
L519[08:52:13] <asie> Java is about as fast as it can possibly get
L520[08:52:14] <Inari> plus well
L521[08:52:16] <nxsupert_> Compared to C java is slower.
L522[08:52:17] <Inari> how competent you are at using it
L523[08:52:21] <Inari> notch wasnt very competent at java
L524[08:52:25] <asie> nxsupert_: If you use Java like you use C it's almost the same
L525[08:52:45] <Inari> hm not sure i'd say java is the quickest somehting can get thouhg haha
L526[08:53:02] <nxsupert_> Except you can't , because you have very little control over memory managment.
L527[08:53:29] <Inari> instead of c, i'd use rust though
L528[08:53:44] <vifino> Instead of C++ I
L529[08:53:48] <vifino> 'd use Go :D
L530[08:53:48] <Sangar> a propos rust, http://www.viva64.com/en/b/0324/ has a nice boxplot wrt language speeds :P
L531[08:54:05] <nxsupert_> Instead of C , I'd use assembly :P
L532[08:54:18] <vifino> nxsupert_ just lost all of his sanity.
L533[08:54:19] <Sangar> let's just all agree to use php, mkay? :P
L534[08:54:23] <Inari> Sangar: meh, not really interested in performance discussion till rust is done, optimized and has optimized libraries about
L535[08:54:39] <nxsupert_> I don't like php. Node.js ftw :P
L536[08:54:49] <Sangar> Inari, just linked it because i still had the tab open, and it also had java + c in the graph ;)
L537[08:54:59] <Sangar> nxsupert_, nobody likes php :P
L538[08:55:11] <nxsupert_> how about Cobol?
L539[08:55:38] <Sangar> i always like to link http://eev.ee/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ when it comes to php :3
L540[08:56:12] <Inari> plus, c++ is a pretty horrible patchwork by now all things considered
L541[08:56:53] <nxsupert_> You sound like Torvalds :P
L542[08:56:54] <Sangar> ehh, i disagree. c++11 actually made the language pretty usable
L543[08:57:17] <Inari> its still a terrible mess xD
L544[08:57:26] <Inari> plus, c++11 doesnt rdi all of the old even crappier code
L545[08:57:56] <Inari> anyway, i just like rust as a language
L546[08:57:56] <nxsupert_> http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/
L547[08:58:05] <nxsupert_> i have never used rust
L548[08:58:05] <Inari> Results are much nicer than exeception
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L550[08:59:22] <nxsupert_> Still. For the most part I use c , c# and Javascript
L551[09:00:07] <Inari> i'D probably go js/html5 for anything that can live on the web (browser-side), rust for lower level stuff (incluidng stuff needing more performance, or just server-side stuff), and c# for desktop apps
L552[09:00:59] <Inari> maybe rust for games though instead of c# :p
L553[09:01:11] <nxsupert_> I'd still use c for desktop stuff. Which I never really make. The only time I use c# is when working with Unity.
L554[09:01:23] <Inari> i gotta look into unity more~
L555[09:02:15] <nxsupert_> Unity 5 is pretty awesome. Can easily some nice graphical stuff.
L556[09:02:25] <Inari> Sangar: i still have to go and understand vectors/iterators in c++11 better <.<
L557[09:02:37] <Inari> nxsupert_: you a verb there
L558[09:02:51] <nxsupert_> ?
L559[09:03:26] <vifino> I'd use Go for server side stuff, Ruby for quick ideas, Lua for stuff that needs to run on routers or generally just for things that need to be fast and lightweight, some lisp if I feel like that today and PHP when I'm trying to murder myself.
L560[09:03:30] <Sangar> Inari, for(auto x : v) { ... } in c++11 :3
L561[09:04:13] <Inari> Sangar: well i tried finding something in one vecotr and then adding it to the beginning iterator of the other vector :P it didnt like that for whatever reason, also tried taking the dsitance between beginning and found index and add that to the beginning iterator of the other vector
L562[09:04:14] <Inari> didnt like that either
L563[09:04:26] <Sangar> ah :P
L564[09:04:45] <Inari> nxsupert_: " Can easily some nice graphical stuff." <- lacks a verb D:
L565[09:05:06] <nxsupert_> I can make things that look pretty.
L566[09:05:29] <vifino> I can make things that work.
L567[09:05:43] <Inari> i can make work for things?
L568[09:05:50] <vifino> :P
L569[09:05:58] <nxsupert_> I can not do not can do i.
L570[09:06:05] <vifino> https://github.com/vifino/carbon \o/ It is alive!
L571[09:06:40] <nxsupert_> Mhe.
L572[09:06:44] <nxsupert_> MEAN ftw :P
L573[09:07:51] <vifino> This thing is kinda like express..
L574[09:07:58] <Cruor> vifino: tag"title"("Hello World!") () is redundant
L575[09:08:11] <vifino> Cruor: You are redundant
L576[09:09:22] <nxsupert_> Anyone here ever written anything in assembly?
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L579[09:10:09] <vifino> Of course.
L580[09:10:16] <vifino> Well, modified, that is.
L581[09:10:23] <vifino> <3 radare2
L582[09:11:22] <vifino> Cruor: Yes, it's redundant, you can leave it out if you want >_>
L583[09:12:35] <vifino> Cruor: do you like it?
L584[09:13:18] * vifino slaps Cruor
L585[09:13:18] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L586[09:13:38] <Cruor> i prefer Django >_<
L587[09:13:52] <vifino> >_>
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L589[09:16:18] <vifino> Cruor: Do you like it or not? >_<
L590[09:17:19] <Cruor> why do i need this? ;_;
L591[09:18:58] <vifino> Cruor: because dynamic sites and awesome templating stuffs
L592[09:19:10] <Cruor> ... but i have Django ;_;
L593[09:19:26] <vifino> ... But Django is python .-.
L594[09:19:54] <vifino> And I bet that carbon is faster than Django.
L595[09:20:14] <Cruor> as if you used Python to brag about performance speed
L596[09:20:34] <vifino> As if I would use python at all >_>
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L601[10:05:43] <Oddstr13> vifino: well, you can cache all them things if you set up django & nginx for that, so...
L602[10:05:58] <vifino> Oddstr13: .-.
L603[10:06:04] <vifino> Where is the fun in that?
L604[10:06:42] <Oddstr13> if speed is your goal, RAM cached prerendred webpages is the way to go
L605[10:08:26] <Oddstr13> why don't you like Python anyway?
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L607[10:18:19] <CompanionCube> I found a source-to-source compiler for ruby -> javascript
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L616[10:46:09] <vifino> Oddstr13: Because indentationhell is bleh .-.
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L628[11:17:18] <dangranos> O_o
L629[11:17:25] <dangranos> SE goes open-source
L630[11:17:29] <dangranos> but non-free
L631[11:17:42] <dangranos> (SE itself, code is free, i think?)
L632[11:21:47] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos: This *might* also mean that some crazy person will port SE to Linux. Hmm. I'm curious what will result from that move.
L633[11:30:26] <Kubuxu> \o
L634[11:31:37] <Kubuxu> Magik6k, I think we should switch from RPi to CHIP when it comes out. It has still enough power to make OC in real world in bare mater but is much much cheaper.
L635[11:31:45] <Kubuxu> lol
L636[11:31:59] <Kubuxu> s/bare mater/bare metal
L637[11:31:59] <Kibibyte> <Kubuxu> Magik6k, I think we should switch from RPi to CHIP when it comes out. It has still enough power to make OC in real world in bare metal but is much much cheaper.
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L639[11:37:21] <nxsupert_> o/
L640[11:49:51] <DeanIsaKitty> \o
L641[11:54:02] <Temia> CHIP's only cheaper because it strips out everything you need for more than the most barebones interfacing honestly .-.
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L644[12:06:18] <Oddstr13> Temia: I'd like a full datasheet with pinout of the thing
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L666[14:11:02] <nxsupert_> o/
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L670[14:35:10] <gamax92> %p
L671[14:35:15] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from gamax92 4.92s
L672[14:35:20] <gamax92> i cri
L673[14:36:02] * Caitlyn slowclaps for gamax92
L674[14:36:14] * Caitlyn waits 5 seconds for gamax92 to see that
L675[14:36:42] <Altenius> %p
L676[14:36:43] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from Altenius 0.46s
L677[14:39:00] <gamax92> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha no
L678[14:39:07] <gamax92> phone says 100% signal strength
L679[14:39:09] <gamax92> fucking bullshit
L680[14:41:40] <Negi> I don't even have 25% signal
L681[14:42:14] <nxsupert_> %p
L682[14:42:17] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from nxsupert_ 1.35s
L683[14:42:21] <nxsupert_> :(
L684[14:42:33] <Altenius> %p
L685[14:42:34] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from Altenius 0.36s
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L687[14:42:59] <Altenius_> %p
L688[14:43:03] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from Altenius_ 4.23s
L689[14:43:13] <ping> stahp
L690[14:43:16] <Altenius_> What.... This is without the bouncer
L691[14:43:19] <gamax92> https://otakumode.com/shop/552616f8de277bda11cdf966
L692[14:43:22] <gamax92> "This product cannot be shipped to the following countries due to copyright and other region restrictions: Japan."
L693[14:43:24] <gamax92> wat
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L695[14:43:39] <nxsupert_> Speedtest.net tells me I have a 35 ms ping.
L696[14:43:59] <ping> nxsupert_, irc is different .-.
L697[14:44:29] <nxsupert_> Ok.
L698[14:44:43] <nxsupert_> It must be annoying to have the user name "Ping"
L699[14:44:52] <Altenius> Hmm. Has anyone tried making a botnet that communicates through IRC?
L700[14:44:56] <gamax92> ping gets pinged a lot because his name is ping
L701[14:45:07] <ping> Altenius, yes
L702[14:45:09] <gamax92> I don't know why his name is ping
L703[14:45:11] <Altenius> oh :(
L704[14:45:21] <gamax92> ping you should change your nickname
L705[14:45:27] <gamax92> it would prevent you from being ping 'd
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L708[14:45:40] <gamax92> mission clear
L709[14:45:42] <S3> There's no place like ::1
L710[14:45:45] <gamax92> S3!
L711[14:45:49] <S3> hey.
L712[14:45:55] <S3> Today was my first day
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L714[14:46:02] <gamax92> first day to what
L715[14:46:07] <Caitlyn> Altenius, LOTS of botnets are commanded via IRC.
L716[14:46:10] <S3> working at the virtual reality research lab
L717[14:46:19] <gamax92> What happened to Katie
L718[14:46:21] <S3> fun fun fun
L719[14:46:26] <Altenius> Oh :\. Every idea is already taken >_>
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L721[14:46:34] <gamax92> Altenius: make a Splatoon clone
L722[14:46:36] <S3> Altenius, nope.
L723[14:46:48] <gamax92> finish your emulator
L724[14:46:48] <Katie> gamax92, it changed when esper did maint
L725[14:46:53] <gamax92> ahh
L726[14:46:58] <nxsupert_> Today was my 7th say of revising :(
L727[14:47:04] <Altenius> Oh ya, I got frustrated with epis
L728[14:47:07] <PixelToast> ?
L729[14:47:09] <nxsupert_> r say/day
L730[14:47:18] <nxsupert_> not how you do it? Ok.
L731[14:47:19] <gamax92> Altenius: why do you need eris for an emulator
L732[14:47:27] <Altenius> Presistance...
L733[14:47:32] <S3> gamax92, so to get myself into familiarity with the new Minecraft Forge, I decided to make a very very very simple OC architecture. once I get that working (it doesn't emulate anything but is still very useful!) then I got some plans for OCSymon
L734[14:47:36] <Katie> nxsupert_, it's s/replace/replacement
L735[14:47:40] <Katie> s/say/day/
L736[14:47:40] <Kibibyte> <nxsupert_> r day/day
L737[14:47:44] <Katie> …
L738[14:47:45] <Katie> lol
L739[14:47:51] <nxsupert_> :P
L740[14:47:57] <Katie> s/7th say/7th day
L741[14:47:57] <Kibibyte> <nxsupert_> Today was my 7th day of revising :(
L742[14:48:05] <S3> gamax92, I think you're really going to like this though
L743[14:48:08] <Altenius> I mean.. Should I just give up on persistence?]
L744[14:48:09] <gamax92> S3: hmm?
L745[14:48:13] <gamax92> Altenius: I dunno
L746[14:48:21] <gamax92> My emu has no persistence
L747[14:48:30] <Altenius> What language?
L748[14:48:36] <gamax92> lua :P
L749[14:48:46] <Altenius> hmm
L750[14:48:52] <S3> persistence is lame
L751[14:48:55] <S3> :D
L752[14:49:01] <Altenius> Whatever, I'll nuke it
L753[14:49:10] <nxsupert_> I've just come up with an evil idea for an architecture :D
L754[14:49:11] <gamax92> it makes sense for minecraft where the chunk may or may not be loaded
L755[14:49:24] <gamax92> S3: what'chu makin
L756[14:49:46] <S3> :>
L757[14:49:52] <S3> gamax92, you'll love this
L758[14:50:02] <S3> when yyou can write haskell, erlang, Perl, C, C++ on OC.
L759[14:50:04] <nxsupert_> Although it would be rather hard to to release it because of the fact that its name can't be said.
L760[14:50:14] <gamax92> S3: is it ARM
L761[14:50:17] <S3> that's a hint.
L762[14:50:19] <S3> nope.
L763[14:50:21] <asie> is it LEG?
L764[14:50:30] <S3> it is much simpler than that
L765[14:50:33] <asie> MIPS?
L766[14:50:37] <S3> nope.
L767[14:50:42] <gamax92> Z180?
L768[14:50:51] <S3> NO but I would love to see a Z80180 arch
L769[14:51:17] <S3> gamax92, I call it OC Quantum Stargate.
L770[14:51:40] <S3> and I think it will really revolutionize some of my projects.
L771[14:52:08] <nxsupert_> Ok. This is too good not to do. I'm making a BF architecture.
L772[14:52:18] <S3> nxsupert_, :)
L773[14:52:25] <gamax92> waaawawawawa
L774[14:53:01] <Negi> nxsupert_: Extended BF, doe, no ?
L775[14:53:47] <nxsupert_> I think i would probably have to add some additional commands other than the standard 8.
L776[14:54:03] <Negi> 8 ?
L777[14:54:12] <asie> +-,.[]<>
L778[14:54:16] <Negi> Oh.
L779[14:54:17] <S3> yes.
L780[14:54:20] <nxsupert_> ><+-.,[]
L781[14:54:21] <S3> let's multiply 3 * 5
L782[14:54:27] <asie> that's easy
L783[14:54:32] <asie> +++[>+++++<-]
L784[14:54:36] <S3> +++[>+++++<=]
L785[14:54:39] <S3> opps =
L786[14:54:40] <S3> lol
L787[14:54:42] <asie> :^)
L788[14:54:43] <PixelToast> extended bf is masterrace
L789[14:54:48] <S3> heheh
L790[14:55:40] <Kubuxu> asie, bequnge is better.
L791[14:55:48] <Kubuxu> n-dimensional befunge.
L792[14:55:49] <Negi> I need to read more BF stuff.
L793[14:55:56] <nxsupert_> Well how could I make it call external commands?
L794[14:56:25] <Kubuxu> nxsupert_, there are extensions but everything depends on your interpreter.
L795[14:57:09] <nxsupert_> I'd probably write my own interpreter , it is simple enough.
L796[14:57:11] <Kubuxu> One way is memory mapping.
L797[14:57:48] <nxsupert_> Like saying setting the data at point x causing function y to be called for peripheral z?
L798[14:59:07] <Kubuxu> More like: data at region 101-228 is mapped externally and updating 100 executes.
L799[14:59:37] <nxsupert_> Ok.
L800[14:59:53] <Kubuxu> But ask ping when he is back.
L801[15:00:04] <Kubuxu> He wrote whole irc bot in brainfuck
L802[15:00:12] <nxsupert_> :P
L803[15:00:13] <Kubuxu> PixelToast, ^^
L804[15:02:18] <nxsupert_> Then there is the question. Should I store the program in the same place as the data?
L805[15:02:39] <Kubuxu> Meaning?
L806[15:03:18] <nxsupert_> The program could modify itself on run time.
L807[15:03:47] <Negi> nxsupert_: Technically, the program /is/ data. But then, modifying at runtime seems a bit...
L808[15:03:56] <Kubuxu> BF by design is not self changing.
L809[15:04:32] <Kubuxu> If you want something way cooler look for befunge
L810[15:04:56] <Kubuxu> It is my favourite esoteric language.
L811[15:05:22] <Kubuxu> Especially its extension bequnge which expands the space from 2D to nD.
L812[15:05:37] <Kubuxu> You can create real sub routines and so on.
L813[15:06:04] <Kubuxu> http://www.purplehatstands.com/bequnge/index.php
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L816[15:09:27] <nxsupert_> I think I will stick to 2D
L817[15:11:24] <Kubuxu> When you design functions and coroutines 2D is fine. But 4D allows you to do routing, remote calls and returns.
L818[15:11:54] <nxsupert_> Mhh
L819[15:12:24] <nxsupert_> But how would one read a 4D program
L820[15:12:26] <nxsupert_> ?
L821[15:13:07] <Kubuxu> You use one dimension as a way to go to different 3D space.
L822[15:13:27] <nxsupert_> Ok.
L823[15:13:32] <Kubuxu> And 3D is perfectly normal to read after getting used to.
L824[15:14:28] <Negi> >&~v // ^ < // Simplest befunge program evah
L825[15:14:48] <nxsupert_> What does it do?
L826[15:15:39] <Negi> nxsupert_: Grabs a character from the user and prints it back.
L827[15:15:41] <Negi> Well
L828[15:15:49] <Negi> Actually I got that wrong lmao
L829[15:16:00] <Negi> That's ~, and not &~
L830[15:16:40] <Kubuxu> >~,>
L831[15:16:59] <Kubuxu> This will ask for char and output it indefinitely.
L832[15:17:24] <Kubuxu> It is same as >~.
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L834[15:18:59] <Negi> Kubuxu: So it wraps around ?
L835[15:19:01] <nxsupert_> There is still the problem of how I communicate with peripherals?
L836[15:19:31] <Kubuxu> Negi, yeah.
L837[15:20:15] <Kubuxu> The funge space is a torus
L838[15:22:23] <Kubuxu> nxsupert_, you could make it read output and include some control characters or use Extensions form Funge-98
L839[15:22:28] <Kubuxu> http://quadium.net/funge/spec98.html#Scale
L840[15:22:31] <Altenius> What does the computer.energy() function return when no energy is needed (i.e. creative case or no energy mod installed)
L841[15:23:02] <Sangar> math.huge
L842[15:23:18] <Sangar> for the latter
L843[15:23:19] <Altenius> O: You're not afk!
L844[15:23:31] <Sangar> indeed :P
L845[15:24:02] <Sangar> for the former, usually maxEnergy
L846[15:24:12] <Vexatos> HexChat conveniently shows if someone or something is AFK
L847[15:24:26] <Negi> Under a certain user limit
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L850[15:24:46] <Sangar> well, to be fair, i'm sometimes afk but forget to tell irc about it :X
L851[15:24:51] <Kubuxu> Vexatos, but refresh takes some time or until this someone types something.
L852[15:25:04] <Kubuxu> s/this //
L853[15:25:27] <Vexatos> not for me
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L855[15:26:26] <Kubuxu> It might be due to using irssi as bouncer,
L856[15:26:29] <nxsupert_> I could the "" push to some kind of buffer that calls peripheral functions.
L857[15:26:51] <nxsupert_> s/the / make the
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L859[15:27:13] <nxsupert_> I think we may have crashed it.
L860[15:27:47] <Kubuxu> nxsupert_, look into the specification I sent you.
L861[15:28:47] <Kubuxu> You request some extension and then in () scope there is new bunding.
L862[15:30:59] <nxsupert_> umm
L863[15:31:29] <Katie> %yt enable
L864[15:31:29] <MichiBot1> Katie: Enabled YTInfo for this channel
L865[15:31:32] <Katie> %sed enable
L866[15:31:32] <MichiBot1> Katie: Enabled SED for this channel
L867[15:33:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> s/enable/disable/g
L868[15:33:05] <MichiBot1> <Katie> %sed disable
L869[15:33:19] <Katie> %chgnick MichiBot
L870[15:33:19] *** MichiBot1 is now known as MichiBot
L871[15:33:26] <Katie> %ignore SuPeRMiNoR2
L872[15:33:33] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ;(
L873[15:33:36] <Katie> :P
L874[15:33:39] <nxsupert_> lol
L875[15:33:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2> It didn't even do anything
L876[15:33:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> XD
L877[15:34:24] <Katie> %ignorelist
L878[15:34:24] <MichiBot> Katie: Ignored Users: [Shuudoushi, Al, LanteaBot, lua_bot, SuPeRMiNoR2]
L879[15:34:27] <Katie> you sure?
L880[15:35:01] <nxsupert_> %ignore Katie
L881[15:35:08] <Katie> lulz
L882[15:35:09] <Katie> %ignorelist
L883[15:35:09] <MichiBot> Katie: Ignored Users: [Shuudoushi, Al, LanteaBot, lua_bot, SuPeRMiNoR2]
L884[15:35:10] <nxsupert_> Worth a try :P
L885[15:35:22] <nxsupert_> %ignore
L886[15:35:24] <Katie> if (IRCBot.admins.containsKey(account) || event.getChannel().isOp(event.getUser())) {
L887[15:35:35] <nxsupert_> Oh
L888[15:35:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I meant the sed thing didn't do anything Katie
L889[15:36:25] <Katie> Whaat did you expect it to do? it only reacts of the prefix is the first character.
L890[15:37:05] <Katie> Also, all of the enable/disable commands require botadmin, or +o
L891[15:37:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I thought it would be funny
L892[15:37:38] <SuPeRMiNoR2> $say are you alive
L893[15:37:38] <SuperBot> are you alive
L894[15:37:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Oh nice
L895[15:38:15] <Katie> %unignore SuPeRMiNoR2
L896[15:38:20] <Katie> %ignorelist
L897[15:38:21] <MichiBot> Katie: Ignored Users: [Shuudoushi, Al, LanteaBot, lua_bot]
L898[15:38:34] * CompanionCube likes using Atom + terminal plugin
L899[15:38:49] <Katie> %authed
L900[15:38:49] <MichiBot> Katie: Authenticated to Nickserv account Michiyo
L901[15:38:52] <Katie> %authcount
L902[15:38:53] <MichiBot> Katie: Current hashmap size is: 123
L903[15:39:02] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Waiiit why is shuu ignored
L904[15:39:22] <Katie> Why wouldn't Shuu be ignored? Have you talked to shuu?
L905[15:39:34] <Katie> The fact I let him use my bouncer is bad enough
L906[15:39:35] <Katie> :P
L907[15:39:58] <Katie> %usercount
L908[15:39:59] <MichiBot> Katie: Current hashmap size is: 120
L909[15:40:10] <Katie> Hmm....
L910[15:40:14] <Katie> That's.. off
L911[15:40:18] <Katie> s/off/odd/
L912[15:40:19] <MichiBot> <Katie> That's.. odd
L913[15:40:23] <Katie> but either works really
L914[15:50:03] <rashy> \o/
L915[15:50:08] <nxsupert_> o/
L916[15:51:01] <Skye> \o
L917[15:51:07] <rashy> Skye!
L918[15:51:20] * rashy pokes Skye
L919[15:51:26] * Skye squeaks
L920[15:51:55] <rashy> :D
L921[15:52:36] * Skye pokes rashy
L922[15:52:37] <Izaya> https://lainchan.org/tech/src/1431521883405.jpg
L923[15:52:54] <Izaya> also
L924[15:52:59] <Izaya> what the fuck is going on here
L925[15:53:08] * rashy purrs
L926[15:53:13] <rashy> ;D
L927[15:53:22] <Skye> Izaya, I don't really know...
L928[15:53:27] <nxsupert_> I don't get that image.
L929[15:53:44] <Izaya> https://lainchan.org/tech/src/1431460508751.jpg
L930[15:54:06] <Skye> Izaya, haha
L931[15:54:07] <nxsupert_> Linux isn't that complex.
L932[15:54:17] <Lizzy> Izaya, dammit now i'm sad
L933[15:54:20] <Skye> nxsupert_, it's more the things you can do with it.
L934[15:54:25] <Izaya> The worst part is
L935[15:54:41] <Izaya> I realised that a similar thing happened to me
L936[15:54:43] <nxsupert_> You can do everything you can do with Linux with OS X :P
L937[15:54:52] <Izaya> when I first started playing with Linux, I had a shitty netbook
L938[15:55:05] <Temia> It's less what Linux needs
L939[15:55:11] <Temia> And more what Linux inspires.
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L941[15:55:14] <Izaya> nxsupert_, show me swap on a ramdisk on another machine using NFS over a network
L942[15:55:15] <Temia> +_+
L943[15:55:44] <Skye> Thanks to linux, I rebuilt a Pentium 4 and hooked up a serial terminal
L944[15:56:04] <Izaya> Skye, I need to do a video of my setup recently
L945[15:56:10] <Skye> haah
L946[15:56:17] <Temia> Thanks to Linux, I am making a self-contained arcade game in a joystick! Also alphastations!
L947[15:56:29] <Izaya> Temia, like, DEC ALPHA?
L948[15:56:32] <Temia> Wait, I guess Linux isn't really helping there
L949[15:56:34] <Temia> Yeah :D
L950[15:56:38] <nxsupert_> I wish I had a good linux box :(
L951[15:56:41] <Temia> Old ones though.
L952[15:56:47] <Izaya> q_q I don't even have anything ARM to run Linux on
L953[15:56:49] <Skye> I have wires in my room that start to get to Lain's level
L954[15:56:54] <Izaya> I want a RISC box D:
L955[15:57:07] <Temia> And my options are either oldass and broken BSD versions
L956[15:57:13] <rashy> pick up a Pi
L957[15:57:17] <CompanionCube> Izaya, >you are in the coding zone and you has to go on shitty tablet
L958[15:57:27] <Izaya> maybe I should re-write the microcode on one of these Core 2 Duos
L959[15:57:28] <Temia> Or trying to build Gentoo on...
L960[15:57:32] <Izaya> they're internally RISC anyway
L961[15:57:38] <Temia> ...a DEC Alpha ._.
L962[15:57:46] <Izaya> Temia, I would choose gentoo
L963[15:57:53] <Izaya> just because then you could run recent stuff
L964[15:58:03] <Temia> Alternatively trying to mash TRU64 together with LLVM and see what happens
L965[15:58:09] <Skye> Izaya, uhh... Is rewiring microcode that even practically doable for a single person?
L966[15:58:24] <Izaya> Skye, of course not :D
L967[15:58:29] <nxsupert_> Screw it. I am chucking Debian on my spare PC.
L968[15:58:42] <Izaya> Good choice. Install all the DEs!
L969[15:58:49] *** Magik6k is now known as Magik6k|off
L970[15:58:58] <Izaya> And WindowMaker because it's cool in a weird way
L971[15:59:08] <Skye> WindowMaker...
L972[15:59:48] <Skye> oh yeah, the WM that is like nextstep
L973[16:00:42] <Skye> I kinda like it
L974[16:01:02] <Izaya> I was running it on my Pentium 4 box for a while
L975[16:01:30] <Izaya> but now it has xfce more-or-less configured exactly like my desktop
L976[16:01:34] <Izaya> because synergy
L977[16:02:31] <SuPeRMiNoR2> nxsupert_: go deeper, install Debian on all the PCs
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L979[16:02:57] <nxsupert_> Na. i'd like to keep OS X on my Mac book :P
L980[16:03:28] <Skye> It's funny, if my parents didn't want me to clean my room, it would be like Lain's. except for the water.
L981[16:03:35] <Izaya> Have fun with your restricted UNIX then
L982[16:03:46] <nxsupert_> Who?
L983[16:08:17] *** Skye is now known as Skye|ZZZ
L984[16:08:40] <Izaya> nxsupert_, you.
L985[16:08:42] <Izaya> Skye|ZZZ, waait
L986[16:08:50] <Izaya> I just recorded a video of my computer room
L987[16:08:56] <rashy> o/ g'night Skye|ZZZ
L988[16:08:57] <nxsupert_> I can disable the limiting features.
L989[16:09:30] <Izaya> can you disable the shitty WM that insists on drop shadows?
L990[16:09:34] <nxsupert_> I mean OS X is basically just BSD with some security on top.
L991[16:10:01] <Negi> Kubuxu: Funge-in-a-PNG ?
L992[16:10:14] <nxsupert_> I can change the window server with some hackery.
L993[16:10:20] <Izaya> more coffee time
L994[16:10:32] <nxsupert_> although that would mean disabling everything I would get a mac for.
L995[16:11:21] <Altenius> So uh.. What companies do you guys want to die?
L996[16:11:49] <nxsupert_> Microsoft , EA ,
L997[16:12:18] <PotatoTrumpet> Valve
L998[16:12:25] <Altenius> Why valve?
L999[16:12:29] <nxsupert_> Whats wrong with Valve?
L1000[16:12:34] <PotatoTrumpet> Everything
L1001[16:12:47] <PotatoTrumpet> Oh, and Comcast
L1002[16:12:50] <Altenius> Valve seems to be the only company to care about getting games on linux
L1003[16:13:02] <nxsupert_> Steam is probably one of the best things that has ever happened to games.
L1004[16:13:11] <PotatoTrumpet> s/valve/Indie devs
L1005[16:13:12] <MichiBot> <Altenius> Why Indie devs?
L1006[16:13:17] <PotatoTrumpet> :/
L1007[16:13:26] <Altenius> lol
L1008[16:13:41] <CompanionCube> Altenius, Sky Broadband
L1009[16:13:43] <CompanionCube> POS.
L1010[16:13:51] <PotatoTrumpet> OneSource Com.
L1011[16:13:54] <PotatoTrumpet> POSS
L1012[16:14:00] <PotatoTrumpet> Piece of stinky shit
L1013[16:14:14] <Altenius> Google and all social media
L1014[16:14:34] <nxsupert_> Google , Facebook and Twitter are all good people :P
L1015[16:14:36] <CompanionCube> bbbut google's search engine
L1016[16:14:46] <CompanionCube> nxsupert_, Facebook is more eh than Google imho
L1017[16:14:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Google also knows everyhing about you
L1018[16:14:51] <CompanionCube> Twitter idk about
L1019[16:14:57] <Altenius> How is facebook good?
L1020[16:15:16] <CompanionCube> Can we keep the 'search engine' part of google but dump the tracking bit
L1021[16:15:20] <nxsupert_> It connects people.
L1022[16:15:28] <Izaya> CompanionCube, it's called DuckDuckGo
L1023[16:15:37] <CompanionCube> Izaya, yeah but different search engine ofc
L1024[16:15:43] <nxsupert_> Look at what it is doing for the Nepal crisis.
L1025[16:16:32] <nxsupert_> Ok. Can we include public orginisations?
L1026[16:16:50] <CompanionCube> nxsupert_, same goes for any social network. It's not like google where the software actually *matters*
L1027[16:18:00] <nxsupert_> I guess. But I'd rather keep Facebook and Twitter.
L1028[16:18:19] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Twitter maybe, Facebook meh
L1029[16:18:37] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Google is both terrible and amazing
L1030[16:18:42] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRtRxig5FOI
L1031[16:18:42] <MichiBot> Izaya: Computer room tour | length 2m 33s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 View: 1 | by ShadowKat Studios
L1032[16:19:00] <nxsupert_> Google has yet to do something that I would consider evil.
L1033[16:19:17] <nxsupert_> The same can not be said for EA and Microsoft.
L1034[16:20:01] <Altenius> What has Microsoft done?
L1035[16:20:06] <Izaya> Windows
L1036[16:20:15] <nxsupert_> It tried to kill linux a few years ago.
L1037[16:20:20] <PotatoTrumpet> omgomgomgomg
L1038[16:20:30] <Altenius> Actually, I take that back.
L1039[16:20:31] *** Cruor is now known as Cruor|Away
L1040[16:20:31] <Negi> Google, EA and HTC.
L1041[16:20:40] <Negi> (And Microsoft)
L1042[16:20:41] <nxsupert_> Can we include NSA?
L1043[16:20:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> And TSA
L1044[16:20:59] <Altenius> How about when they said they'd lose support for OpenGL which basicly forced a monopoly on DirectX
L1045[16:21:12] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Fuck microshit
L1046[16:21:13] <PotatoTrumpet> spaceengineers
L1047[16:21:23] <Negi> Can we broaden the range from "companies" to "entities" ?
L1048[16:21:24] <PotatoTrumpet> is open source?!?!?!
L1049[16:21:28] <CompanionCube> Can we include her Majesty's Government
L1050[16:21:29] <PotatoTrumpet> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
L1051[16:21:30] * PotatoTrumpet dies
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L1053[16:21:42] <CompanionCube> PotatoTrumpet, 'open source' nope
L1054[16:21:43] <Negi> And the Government of the Baguette ?
L1055[16:21:46] <Altenius> yes
L1056[16:21:51] <CompanionCube> more like 'viewable code'
L1057[16:22:04] <nxsupert_> Majesty's Government? UK?
L1058[16:22:14] <Izaya> CompanionCube, so like TE?
L1059[16:22:14] <CompanionCube> nxsupert_, yes
L1060[16:22:26] <nxsupert_> Reform. Yes. Die. No.
L1061[16:22:33] <CompanionCube> Izaya, sorta
L1062[16:22:44] <Izaya> Oh yeah you guys got the conservatives, ha ha ah heh
L1063[16:22:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Izaya: that sure is dark
L1064[16:22:46] * Izaya cries
L1065[16:22:47] <CompanionCube> you can use the code but the license is too restrictive for it to be 'open source' imho
L1066[16:22:53] <Izaya> SuPeRMiNoR2, no lights on
L1067[16:22:58] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Ik
L1068[16:23:03] <Izaya> probably should have done that
L1069[16:23:06] * Lizzy wants to burn mr cameron at the steak
L1070[16:23:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Normally you turn on lights when you record XD
L1071[16:23:24] <PotatoTrumpet> I mean the source is open to the public
L1072[16:23:32] <Izaya> but lights hurt my eyes
L1073[16:23:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Lizzy: are you a cannibal now?
L1074[16:23:34] <PotatoTrumpet> gah
L1075[16:23:36] * Negi wants to burn France's governm-people.
L1076[16:23:38] <PotatoTrumpet> I can't think
L1077[16:23:43] <nxsupert_> Companies you do not want to die?
L1078[16:23:44] <PotatoTrumpet> AP tests are3 hard
L1079[16:23:53] <Negi> nxsupert_: Valve.
L1080[16:24:06] <nxsupert_> Ok
L1081[16:24:11] <Altenius> nxsupert_, Apple, not because of the products though
L1082[16:24:15] <CompanionCube> �For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone',�
L1083[16:24:20] <CompanionCube> - David Cameron 2015
L1084[16:24:27] <Lizzy> SuPeRMiNoR2, well, if minority extremist views are illegal (^) i am
L1085[16:24:48] <Negi> Altenius: Why then?
L1086[16:25:20] <Altenius> Negi, they don't make money from selling your identity
L1087[16:25:38] <Negi> I don't know about that *shrugs*
L1088[16:25:42] <nxsupert_> If I could i would have voted Lib Dem
L1089[16:25:44] <CompanionCube> Izaya, see the overt fascism/authoritarianism in that quote?
L1090[16:25:46] <CompanionCube> nxsupert_, me too
L1091[16:25:46] <Negi> But if they don't that's better than Google.
L1092[16:25:53] * CompanionCube is underage for voting
L1093[16:26:01] <Negi> Oh, also Canonical.
L1094[16:26:04] <Izaya> CompanionCube, isn't the point of a law to be left alone if you obey it?
L1095[16:26:08] <Izaya> like
L1096[16:26:08] <Izaya> wat
L1097[16:26:10] <Negi> Canonical does alright, I guess.
L1098[16:26:27] <CompanionCube> Negi, Canonical intend to introduce a shitty package manager to ubuntu
L1099[16:26:33] <CompanionCube> they can promptly go fuck themselves
L1100[16:26:53] <Altenius> They helped spread linux, didn't they? At least to the consumer market
L1101[16:27:14] <nxsupert_> Canonical made linux so much more popular.
L1102[16:27:26] <nxsupert_> I should probably say GNU/Linux
L1103[16:27:41] <CompanionCube> Izaya, you'll like this one
L1104[16:27:51] <Negi> CompanionCube: At least they dropped Upstart.
L1105[16:27:51] <Izaya> I gotta run
L1106[16:27:53] <CompanionCube> 'The package of powers, first proposed in March, would allow courts to force a person to send their tweets and Facebook posts to the police for approval.'
L1107[16:27:57] <Izaya> it's almost 7:30 AM
L1108[16:28:02] <Izaya> wat
L1109[16:28:04] <Izaya> waaaat
L1110[16:28:08] <Izaya> anyway
L1111[16:28:10] <Izaya> bai
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L1113[16:28:37] <Negi> For systemd <3
L1114[16:28:47] <kowy> opencomputers irq ?
L1115[16:28:50] <kowy> hi
L1116[16:28:58] <CompanionCube> kowy, hi
L1117[16:29:02] <Skye|ZZZ> Hello
L1118[16:29:06] <CompanionCube> and it's IRC :3
L1119[16:29:33] <Skye|ZZZ> Hello, kowy!
L1120[16:29:44] * PotatoTrumpet gives Skye|ZZZ coffee
L1121[16:29:45] <kowy> ))) have a crash, dont know where to place it, while initialisation minecraft
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L1123[16:29:52] * Altenius wishes he was born in the 50s
L1124[16:29:54] <kowy> i'll know it! )
L1125[16:29:58] <PotatoTrumpet> kowy, pastebin
L1126[16:30:12] <kowy> internet relay chat )))
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L1128[16:31:35] <kowy> drop it here or on forum ?
L1129[16:31:56] <kowy> http://pastebin.com/tKbyQCHe
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L1131[16:33:14] <PotatoTrumpet> Assistance is required in the crash isle
L1132[16:33:20] <nxsupert_> Weird question. What are is favourite game?
L1133[16:33:29] * Katie pokes Shangri-la
L1134[16:33:32] <Katie> crap
L1135[16:33:36] <PotatoTrumpet> uhh
L1136[16:33:44] * PotatoTrumpet applauds
L1137[16:33:49] * Katie pokes Sangar
L1138[16:34:06] <Skye|ZZZ> Katie: wat
L1139[16:34:22] <Katie> Skye|ZZZ, wдt wat...
L1140[16:35:22] <Skye|ZZZ> ._.
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L1143[16:37:16] <Sangar> Katie, hmm?
L1144[16:37:26] <Katie> <kowy> http://pastebin.com/tKbyQCHe
L1145[16:38:06] <Sangar> kowy, missing typesafe config lib, probably forge installer failed to dl it, try reinstalling forge
L1146[16:38:33] <Katie> o_O I forgot that was a lib..
L1147[16:38:33] <Katie> sorry
L1148[16:39:25] <Sangar> it's really weird how it's often only that one the installer fails to download :/
L1149[16:39:31] <Sangar> maybe it's on a separate server or something?
L1150[16:39:34] * Sangar shrugs
L1151[16:39:46] <Sangar> anyway, reinstalling forge usually fixes it
L1152[16:42:32] <kowy> it's a modpack .. davy jones locker
L1153[16:45:21] <gamax92> Sangar: https://i.imgur.com/lrJskma.png
L1154[16:45:52] <Sangar> well, depends on the launcher then, i suppose. still, it's a missing library that ususally gets downloaded by forge, so it's not really an issue with oc itself
L1155[16:46:07] <Sangar> gamax92, uhh, okay?
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L1159[17:00:26] <Lizzy> s/steak/stake
L1160[17:00:26] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> *** wants to burn mr cameron at the stake
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L1164[17:00:58] <kowy> doesnt seem to wokr (
L1165[17:03:00] <Sandra> I blame curse.
L1166[17:04:26] <rashy> curse is always to blame
L1167[17:04:28] <Lizzy> ^
L1168[17:06:25] <Sandra> The pack is on curse so thats who to blame.
L1169[17:07:06] <Katie> This is the most wtf way of distroing a mod pack I've ever seen
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L1171[17:10:51] <Katie> I've lost all interest in attempting to figure this out.
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L1178[17:21:59] <kowy> ahaha changelog of modpack !
L1179[17:22:07] <kowy> Updated -- I THINK EVERYTHING LOL Open Computers crashing for some people SHOULD be fixed.
L1180[17:22:19] <Lizzy> .-.
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L1186[17:48:02] <vifino> ds84182: am sowwy ;-;
L1187[17:48:05] <ds84182> .
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L1189[17:48:08] <vifino> pls
L1190[17:50:44] <CompanionCube> vifino, there's an atom update
L1191[17:51:03] * CompanionCube waits for the prebuilt package to get an updoot
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L1193[17:52:41] * CompanionCube uses prebuilt because compiling atom from source never actually works
L1194[17:53:14] <Ekoserin> It is harder than it looks to delete root at this terminal.
L1195[17:53:28] <CompanionCube> sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root
L1196[17:53:53] <Ekoserin> Well, that finally worked.
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L1198[17:55:25] <Ekoserin> I heard a story of how someone just SOMEHOW deleted his entire root accidentally. Yeah, 'cause the "--no-preserve-root" key was right next to the "/" key.
L1199[17:56:24] <Altenius> Lol, if that's true someone probably told him to run that command
L1200[17:56:57] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin, a more accidental way to do it is to do 'rm -rf *' while your current directory is /
L1201[17:57:07] <CompanionCube> no protection there
L1202[17:58:13] <Ekoserin> He typed in this exact command "sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /mnt/hetznerbackup /" Why would he give it the --no-preserve-root tag!?
L1203[17:58:26] <Altenius> Maybe it told him to?
L1204[17:58:32] <CompanionCube> ^
L1205[17:58:34] <CompanionCube> looks like a typo
L1206[17:59:00] <Altenius> It says "use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe." He probably just saw that part
L1207[17:59:13] <CompanionCube> he got the wrong message
L1208[17:59:45] <Kodos> I think in the last week, I've been asleep more than I've been awake
L1209[17:59:46] <Ekoserin> This guy is not a computer idiot.
L1210[17:59:52] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin, he may not be
L1211[17:59:57] <CompanionCube> but typos happen
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L1213[18:00:26] <Ekoserin> He mistakenly typed an entire string saying --destroy-my-computer-I-really-mean-it tag.
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L1215[18:00:42] <CompanionCube> nope, he intentionally did that
L1216[18:00:49] <CompanionCube> the typo was in the original command
L1217[18:00:55] <Altenius> Does it also wipe mounted filesystems?
L1218[18:01:04] <CompanionCube> notice the space between 'hetznerbackup' and '/'
L1219[18:01:09] <Ekoserin> I know that
L1220[18:01:10] <Ekoserin> but
L1221[18:01:32] <Ekoserin> Why does he have a --destroy-my-computer-I-really-mean-it tag?
L1222[18:01:44] <Ekoserin> There's no reason to, not that I see.
L1223[18:01:55] <Ekoserin> Does "root" also count roots of mounted devices?
L1224[18:02:00] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin, he may misinterpret the root as the filesystem root
L1225[18:02:16] <CompanionCube> it's sensible that a backup would be located on a different filesystem
L1226[18:02:47] <Ekoserin> I guess? You want more info, read on it here: http://serverfault.com/questions/587102/monday-morning-mistake-sudo-rm-rf-no-preserve-root
L1227[18:03:03] <vifino> CompanionCube: Nice, what's in the changelog?
L1228[18:03:09] <CompanionCube> vifino, not much
L1229[18:03:19] <vifino> ... Now that sais much.
L1230[18:04:03] <CompanionCube> I'll bring it up ahain
L1231[18:04:20] <CompanionCube> Atom now bundles Autocomplete Plus and the completion providers for HTML, CSS, Less, Sass, snippets, and the Atom API
L1232[18:04:20] <CompanionCube> Opening editors is now significantly faster than previously releases
L1233[18:04:30] <CompanionCube> Running atom with no arguments from the command line now re-opens the previously-opened windows. Use atom . to open the current working directory
L1234[18:04:36] <Daiyousei> <CompanionCube> Opening editors is now significantly faster than previously releases
L1235[18:04:41] <Daiyousei> something you will never see in visual studio
L1236[18:04:43] <CompanionCube> Bugfixing about resuming open tabs (not that I want that)
L1237[18:04:45] <Ekoserin> I accidentally my entire emulated Linux install. Is this bad?
L1238[18:04:56] <CompanionCube> Fixed an issue on Linux and Windows 7 where the spell checker would fail to highlight misspelled words
L1239[18:04:58] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin, depends
L1240[18:04:59] <Daiyousei> Ekoserin, nah its just an innocent bug
L1241[18:05:03] <vifino> CompanionCube: Bundeling AC+ not much?!
L1242[18:05:05] <vifino> Pfft.
L1243[18:05:09] <vifino> That's awesome.
L1244[18:05:11] <CompanionCube> anything of value in stead system?
L1245[18:05:26] <Daiyousei> inb4 doesnt get joke
L1246[18:05:45] <CompanionCube> vifino, I have a diabolical plan
L1247[18:05:54] <CompanionCube> 1) compile some ruby to javascript using Opal
L1248[18:05:55] <vifino> *dun dun duuun*
L1249[18:06:02] <vifino> Oh god opal.
L1250[18:06:02] <CompanionCube> 2) use said javascript as an atom package
L1251[18:06:29] <vifino> ... That's very diabolic, CompanionCube.
L1252[18:06:34] <Daiyousei> yes totally
L1253[18:06:37] <vifino> Yep.
L1254[18:06:41] <Daiyousei> silver 1 level diabolic
L1255[18:06:52] <CompanionCube> vifino, actually, better convert the js to coffeescript
L1256[18:06:55] <CompanionCube> for readability
L1257[18:07:25] <vifino> Coffeescript is meh. I mean, i kinda like it if it wouldn't be indention based.
L1258[18:07:31] <vifino> I like my damn one liners :V
L1259[18:07:48] <Daiyousei> coffeescript doesnt fix javascript, it only hide parts of its uglyness
L1260[18:07:48] <Daiyousei> kek
L1261[18:08:03] * Daiyousei hides behind vifino
L1262[18:08:07] <vifino> :o
L1263[18:08:10] <CompanionCube> Daiyousei, nothing can truly fix javascript
L1264[18:08:13] * vifino patpats Daiyousei
L1265[18:08:16] <Daiyousei> CompanionCube, very true
L1266[18:08:21] <Daiyousei> it is forever damned
L1267[18:08:22] <Daiyousei> vifino, :3
L1268[18:08:45] <CompanionCube> Daiyousei, node.js looks cool....but the javascript. oh god the javascript.
L1269[18:08:50] <vifino> Now to make a stupid binding hell thingie for my webserver! HELL YUH!
L1270[18:09:05] <Daiyousei> CompanionCube, ya
L1271[18:09:40] <CompanionCube> vifino, why is my plan diabolical
L1272[18:09:46] <vifino> It isn't.
L1273[18:09:51] <CompanionCube> is it because the produced javascript will be the spawn of satan
L1274[18:10:00] <vifino> :v
L1275[18:10:06] <Daiyousei> it will spawn satan if you read it out loud
L1276[18:10:11] <vifino> lol
L1277[18:10:12] <Daiyousei> over a drawn pentagram on the floor
L1278[18:10:17] <vifino> 10/10
L1279[18:10:32] * vifino +1 xXxDaiyouseifairyxXx
L1280[18:10:33] <CompanionCube> Daiyousei, javascript + code generation + source-to-source compiler = WTFCode ahoy.
L1281[18:10:39] <Daiyousei> yes
L1282[18:10:42] <Daiyousei> vifino, ha
L1283[18:10:51] <vifino> Actually
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L1285[18:11:42] * vifino +1 [FaZe] xXxDaiyouseifairy360N0SC0P3xXx
L1286[18:11:46] * vifino runs
L1287[18:12:00] <Daiyousei> yes totally
L1288[18:12:06] <Daiyousei> s/FaZe/fnatic/
L1289[18:12:06] <MichiBot> <vifino> *** +1 [fnatic] xXxDaiyouseifairy360N0SC0P3xXx
L1290[18:12:07] <CompanionCube> vifino, do you use a terminal package?
L1291[18:12:13] <Daiyousei> aka the cs version of faze
L1292[18:12:19] <vifino> CompanionCube: yes.
L1293[18:12:25] <CompanionCube> vifino, which?
L1294[18:12:38] <vifino> CompanionCube: term2 or something
L1295[18:12:41] <vifino> idk
L1296[18:12:44] <CompanionCube> oooh term2 is nice
L1297[18:12:45] * CompanionCube uses it
L1298[18:12:59] <vifino> Yeah, I use that one since ages.
L1299[18:13:13] <CompanionCube> I also have Quantum Shell installed
L1300[18:13:16] <vifino> Same.
L1301[18:13:25] <CompanionCube> the reasoning? the atom built-in
L1302[18:14:08] <CompanionCube> I wish a persistently-open command palette existed
L1303[18:14:14] <Daiyousei> vifino, https://twitter.com/HaskellCEO/status/567892532467748864
L1304[18:14:14] <Daiyousei> rofl
L1305[18:14:43] <vifino> Erm, wat.
L1306[18:15:00] <vifino> THIS IS WHY I DON'T HASKELL!
L1307[18:15:02] <Daiyousei> rofl
L1308[18:15:04] * vifino hides
L1309[18:15:11] <CompanionCube> vifino, do you also keep your .atom under VCS?
L1310[18:15:18] <vifino> *cough* not that it wouldn't be the same *coigh*
L1311[18:15:28] <vifino> CompanionCube: Nope.
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L1313[18:15:39] * CompanionCube does
L1314[18:15:50] <vifino> I shoulda put my dotfiles up somewhere.
L1315[18:16:07] <vifino> Especially my radare2rc
L1316[18:16:13] <gamax92> I take my dog for a walk in this beautiful park here, can you see? No you can't see because fucking too dark
L1317[18:16:16] <vifino> Can't remember the commands :/
L1318[18:17:33] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/bup/bup would be better, but I would like a message log
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L1325[18:57:49] <dangranos> https://github.com/KeenSoftwareHouse/SpaceEngineers/issues/9 \o/
L1326[18:58:22] <dangranos> lets hope they'll get more responces from SE devs
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L1328[19:09:52] <Altenius> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:unicode is this ever going to get updated? I have no idea what the wide functions do
L1329[19:10:14] <gamax92> i see that is very out of data
L1330[19:11:57] <gamax92> Altenius: isWide: character width is 16 pixels, charWidth: character width / 8, wlen: length of string in unicode characters (not bytes), wtrunc: I don't even this is the weirdest function
L1331[19:12:46] <Altenius> gamax92, I don't think that's what wlen is. len does that
L1332[19:12:49] <gamax92> no
L1333[19:12:52] <gamax92> wait.
L1334[19:13:14] <gamax92> oh, wlen is the length of the string in screen segments?
L1335[19:13:40] <gamax92> yeah
L1336[19:14:06] <Altenius> um. What?
L1337[19:14:23] <gamax92> Altenius: just imagine if you did charWidth through every character in the string and added it together
L1338[19:14:31] <gamax92> is that
L1339[19:15:50] <gamax92> "aニンジン" would be 9 because there are 1 8px character and 4 16px characters,
L1340[19:16:15] <gamax92> I'm terrible at explaining stuff T_T
L1341[19:16:25] <Altenius> I see
L1342[19:16:34] <Altenius> I knew what wtrunc did at one time but eh
L1343[19:16:46] <TabletCube> vifino: around?
L1344[19:16:51] <gamax92> it confuses me so, not even going to try explaining that.
L1345[19:17:03] <vifino> TabletCube: Yeah.
L1346[19:17:19] <TabletCube> vifino: you know Electron?
L1347[19:17:26] <vifino> Huh?
L1348[19:17:43] <TabletCube> the 'core' / framework used by Atom
L1349[19:17:50] <vifino> Nope.
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L1351[19:18:41] <TabletCube> vifino: a few days ago they added support for NTLM / Kerberos authentication
L1352[19:18:51] <vifino> Nice.
L1353[19:19:41] <TabletCube> I use Atom at school and AD integration would be nice
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L1357[19:24:58] <Altenius> Well, this will be fun figuring out how to get the width of a character
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L1359[19:38:50] <Altenius> What's the userdata API and is it needed if I don't user persistence?
L1360[19:38:57] <Altenius> s/user/use
L1361[19:38:57] <MichiBot> <Altenius> What's the usedata API and is it needed if I don't user persistence?
L1362[19:50:59] <ew> .p
L1363[19:51:00] <^v> Ping reply from ew 0.62s
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L1366[19:59:46] <ew> Katie: you here?
L1367[20:06:27] <Katie> ew just got back
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L1372[20:36:23] <Katie> ew, wtf did you neeeeed
L1373[20:47:10] <ew> oh hey
L1374[20:47:26] <ew> nevermind, i figured out that I don't need it
L1375[20:47:41] <ew> anyways, goodnight
L1376[21:15:21] <gamax92> Katie: http://i.imgur.com/d3vI07x.png totally the best at graphics
L1377[21:16:55] <Ekoserin> http://bit.ly/1A4SCbT Graphics.
L1378[21:16:56] <MichiBot> Ekoserin: http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/15568/548982-home_run__1978___atari__1.png Page title: null
L1379[21:17:16] <Ekoserin> MichiBot doesn't like link shorteners.
L1380[21:17:40] <gamax92> its good, so that you don't try to shorten a porn or virus url
L1381[21:19:38] <Ekoserin> True, but what if you have a really long URL to shorten?
L1382[21:21:28] <Ekoserin> A Goo.gl link krpuq3 would flood the chat if I posted it.
L1383[21:22:07] <gamax92> ...
L1384[21:22:20] <gamax92> then don't use a fucking long url generator
L1385[21:22:39] <Ekoserin> True, but I have seen really long natural URLs.
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L1388[21:24:35] <Katie> fucking tool.
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L1390[21:32:22] <Kodos> Hey, I tried to ban him once
L1391[21:32:36] <Kodos> For breaking channel rules
L1392[22:38:26] <PotatoTrumpet> Kodos, who
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L1394[22:53:16] <KurikAmudnil> hello, I noticed a problem with my logs and in trying to find the mod that was causing it (by removing all mods and readding in increments to find the cause) I have found that opencomputers and NotEnoughItems no longer work together
L1395[22:54:17] <PotatoTrumpet> KurikAmudnil, what version are you using
L1396[22:54:18] <PotatoTrumpet> of OC
L1397[22:54:29] <KurikAmudnil> lattest oc
L1398[22:54:53] <KurikAmudnil> I also tried downgrading to older versions of oc, and tried the newer beta version of NEI
L1399[22:55:09] <PotatoTrumpet> crash log?
L1400[22:55:18] <KurikAmudnil> Since they worked together before, I am at a loss as to why they won't work together now
L1401[22:55:29] <KurikAmudnil> a moment
L1402[22:56:53] <KurikAmudnil> http://pastebin.com/MGePXCXA
L1403[22:57:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Err
L1404[22:57:54] <PotatoTrumpet> Katie, you on?
L1405[22:58:15] <Katie> PotatoTrumpet, no
L1406[22:58:19] <PotatoTrumpet> k
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L1408[22:59:08] <PotatoTrumpet> So uh, Katie, you're smart with OC and its shananagans, so could you help KurikAmudnil out?
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L1410[22:59:49] <Katie> o_o
L1411[23:00:01] <Katie> Yeah I've been looking over the crash report.. lol
L1412[23:00:14] <PotatoTrumpet> Maybe you should be looking at it
L1413[23:00:20] * PotatoTrumpet shows him self out
L1414[23:00:54] <Katie> ¬_¬
L1415[23:02:19] <KurikAmudnil> I was experiencing an intermitent crash (different crash) that appeared to be caused by the world tick getting hung up, and likly canidate was something else.
L1416[23:02:53] <KurikAmudnil> but the last time that happened the other day, I noticed that my minecraft log was over a gigabyte in size
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L1418[23:04:06] <KurikAmudnil> so i was trying to find out what mod was filling my log file with frequent error reports with stack trace but no crash
L1419[23:06:52] <Katie> Upgrade Java? I honestly have no idea...
L1420[23:07:06] <Katie> current is 1.8u45, you're on u25
L1421[23:07:42] <KurikAmudnil> I installed a java update today and it didn't seem to make any difference, maybe minecraft didn't connect to the update
L1422[23:10:10] <Katie> Also, possibly toss a forge update in for good measure..
L1423[23:12:22] <KurikAmudnil> I tried multiple versions of forge, just not the most recent one
L1424[23:13:03] <KurikAmudnil> I am thinking I might need to reinstall minecraft
L1425[23:13:36] <KurikAmudnil> I tried setups that had worked before and they were giving me the same crash
L1426[23:14:02] <KurikAmudnil> also note that this crash occurs when I try to open the inventory
L1427[23:15:28] <KurikAmudnil> my testing showed that NEI was working with the other mods, OC working with the other mods, but the two not working together anymore
L1428[23:16:04] <Katie> Well, I've avoided 1.7 like the plague... soooooo
L1429[23:16:12] <Katie> err
L1430[23:16:13] <Katie> 1.8
L1431[23:16:20] <Katie> I've avoided 1.8 like the plague lol
L1432[23:17:18] <KurikAmudnil> lol
L1433[23:23:18] <KurikAmudnil> telling minecraft to use jre1.8.0_45 instead of its personal java 8 u 25 doesn't even start. doesn't complain, but quits after downloading twitch
L1434[23:23:27] <Katie> o_O
L1435[23:23:33] <Katie> 1.7 ftfw!
L1436[23:25:20] <KurikAmudnil> I suppose while I am here I could mention some other things... before I broke things, NEI was showing that tablets could have the hover upgrades installed and some other similar oddities
L1437[23:27:02] <KurikAmudnil> the teir 2 redstone card was enabled with this last update even though I don't have any mods that it would apply to (not of the requsite mods for it have been updated for MC 1.8)
L1438[23:35:53] <Katie> o-o
L1439[23:35:57] <Katie> No clue.. :/
L1440[23:46:13] <KurikAmudnil> so far, reinstalling minecraft is working
L1441[23:46:25] <KurikAmudnil> still no idea why it was necessary though
L1442[23:57:21] *** justastranger is now known as [`-`]
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