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L4[00:29:40] <Kodos> It's more commonly
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L5[00:30:00] <Kodos> But it's why
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L32[04:54:54] <Lizzy> huh, ZNC has a newer
version, will check it out later
 
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L36[05:32:27] <Izaya> Kubuxu, reasonable
specs though
 
L37[05:34:34] <Izaya> as long as it
doesn't run Ubuntu I guess
 
L38[05:40:43] <Negi> That's not really
a clone...
 
L39[05:41:35] <Izaya> I want one of the
portable ones
 
L40[05:41:59] <Izaya> I don't care for
the touchscreen, but a portable terminal-based PDA would be damn
nice
 
L41[05:43:05] <Negi> Izaya: That'll be
$98 :')
 
L42[05:43:46] <Lizzy> i'll stick to
one of the 2 RPis i have
 
L43[05:43:58] <Izaya> $49 if I don't
want video out besides the touchscreen
 
L44[05:44:11] <Lizzy> which if i get a
battery pack, i could use portable
 
L45[05:44:39] <Izaya> Still, one with VGA
out would be nice
 
L46[05:44:46] <Izaya> though, one with
ethernet would be better
 
L47[05:45:06] <Lizzy> Izaya, are you
talking about the chip thing or an RPi?
 
L48[05:45:13] <Izaya> chip
 
L49[05:45:13] <Negi> Maybe they'll
make one someday.
 
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L52[05:46:00] <Kubuxu> Izaya, there is
PortableCHIP which has touchscreen and battery.
 
L53[05:46:06] <Izaya> It'd make a nice
portable ssh terminal
 
L54[05:46:10] <Izaya> Kubuxu, I saw.
 
L55[05:46:15] <Kubuxu> Yeah.
 
L56[05:46:47] <Kubuxu> $9 is so cheap that
you can use it instead of arduino if you really want.
 
L57[05:47:03] *
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L58[05:47:04] <Kubuxu> I will still stick
with ATmega8 for small things.
 
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L60[05:47:43] <Izaya> Kubuxu, that's
cheaper than an Arduino here.
 
L61[05:47:50] <Izaya> An arduino here is
$50 for the cheapest one
 
L62[05:48:15] <Kubuxu> Really. What about
arduino nano.
 
L64[05:49:07] <Kubuxu> I do not use arduino
because of it's price, in 90% of cases I have to do PCB and
ATmega8/8U/88 is much cheaper.
 
L65[05:49:27] <Izaya> Kubuxu, no such thing
here
 
L66[05:49:30] <Kubuxu> Oh.
 
L67[05:49:49] <Izaya> you have the
Freetronics Eleven as the cheapest from Jaycar, which is the only
electronics shop here that sells components
 
L68[05:49:56] <Magik6k> Arduino is just
idiotproof atmega
 
L69[05:50:25] <Izaya> an atmega328 here is
$20
 
L70[05:50:30] <Magik6k> wat
 
L71[05:50:38] <Izaya> welcome to
Australia
 
L72[05:50:42] <Magik6k> that's like at
least 4x normal price
 
L73[05:50:58] <Izaya> there's a reason
I built my own arduino-compatible out of engineering samples and
one of those fancy DIP chips
 
L74[05:51:11] <Kubuxu> Izaya, but in most
cases you need only ATmega8 and in real business ATmega128
 
L75[05:51:28] <Izaya> I like my 16k of
RAM
 
L76[05:51:34] <Lizzy> i wonder how hard it
would be to send IP data over a RPi's GPIO pins to another pi
and have connections going back and forth
 
L77[05:51:39] <Kubuxu> I code AVR in
ASM...
 
L78[05:51:47] <Izaya> Does the RPi have SPI
or similar?
 
L79[05:51:55] <Lizzy> i have no idea
 
L80[05:52:04] <Kubuxu> Izaya, yes it has
SPI/UART/I2C
 
L81[05:52:08] <Izaya> Just run SLIP or PPP
over the SPI or I2C or UART
 
L82[05:52:13] <Magik6k> Lizzy, just dont
use ethernet standard and send bare data from tun/tap device
 
L83[05:52:16] <Lizzy> i haven't ever
actually used the RPi's GPIO stuff
 
L84[05:52:16] <Negi> All I know is that the
RPi's GPIO aren't something I'd use.
 
L85[05:52:39] <Lizzy> Magik6k: ?
 
L86[05:52:56] <Kubuxu> Lizzy, Ethernet is
standard for Ethernet cable.
 
L87[05:53:03] <Lizzy> i know that
 
L88[05:53:10] <Kubuxu> You can use whatever
transmission standard you want.
 
L89[05:53:16] <Magik6k> ^
 
L90[05:53:17] <Izaya> so layer 0 is
physical, or is that layer 1?
 
L92[05:53:32] <Izaya> so layer 0 is the
ethernet cable
 
L93[05:53:37] <Izaya> and layer 1 are
ethernet frames?
 
L94[05:54:16] <Kubuxu> 0 is raw data
transmission 1 is framing.
 
L95[05:54:41] <Kubuxu> sorry 1 is physical
2 is data.
 
L96[05:54:44] <Kubuxu> there is no 0
 
L97[05:54:57] <Magik6k> yep
 
L99[05:55:36] <Izaya> what I want to do is
hook up cables between 2
 
L100[05:55:37] <Kubuxu> gtg, exam in one
hour.
 
L101[05:55:40] <Izaya> bai
 
L102[05:55:47] <Izaya> and then transfer
data like on a gameboy
 
L103[05:56:02] <Magik6k> less fucked up
than one in RPI(at bare-metal leval)?
 
L104[05:57:00] <Izaya> well, it's a
Cortex A8
 
L105[05:57:19] <Izaya> single core only
unfortunately
 
L106[05:59:01] <Magik6k> Well, I worked on
bare-metal port of opencomputers to RPi
 
L107[06:00:20] <Magik6k> the biggest
problem on RPi is the usb
 
L108[06:01:23] <nxsupert_> o/
 
L109[06:01:29] <Magik6k> o/
 
L110[06:03:15] <Izaya> needs moar
USB?
 
L111[06:03:55] <nxsupert_> RPi 2/B+ has 4
USB ports. Thats more than my Mac Book Pro.
 
L112[06:04:50] <Magik6k> I have B+
somewhere
 
L113[06:05:06] <Negi> RPi 1B has two USB
ports, that's more than the new Macbook.
 
L114[06:06:05] <nxsupert_> You can do
everything you can do on the Arduino on the RPi.
 
L115[06:07:12] <Magik6k> but RPi is WAY
easier to break
 
L116[06:08:21] <Izaya> Negi, it's
probably more powerful too.
 
L118[06:08:56] <Negi> nxsupert_: There are
no protections on the Pi's GPIO. :I
 
L119[06:09:04] <nxsupert_> Yes. But anyone
with basic electronics knowledge would know how to keep it
safe.
 
L120[06:09:23] <Negi> Mistakes are
human.
 
L121[06:09:40] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, In
arduino you don't even need that knowledge
 
L122[06:09:45] <Izaya> Humans are
mistake.
 
L123[06:10:27] <Negi> :')
 
L124[06:11:12] <nxsupert_> I guess. But
still. RPi's are so much more powerful. I can talk to the
internet , hook up a GPS system , Run an MC server on it , etc
etc.
 
L125[06:11:52] <Negi> You can connect to
internet with the proper shields, use a GPS too with Arduino.
 
L126[06:12:13] <Negi> The only thing you
can't probably do is running a MC server, and even that
I'm not sure, because Arduino Yun.
 
L127[06:13:12] <nxsupert_> Om. But could
you turn an Arduino into an N64?
 
L128[06:13:16] <Izaya> you can run UNIX on
an Arduino
 
L129[06:13:28] <Izaya> only v6 is
supported so far though
 
L130[06:13:57] <Magik6k> I've seen a
russian running linux on some poor atmega
 
L133[06:14:49] <MichiBot1> Magik6k:
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L134[06:15:15] <Negi> nxsupert_: Arduino
isn't just the Uno, btw.
 
L135[06:16:06] <nxsupert_> I guess
 
L136[06:16:35] <nxsupert_> But I'd
choose my RPi2 over any Arduino any day.
 
L137[06:17:47] <Negi> Heh, an Arduino Yun
is basically the same as a RPi, except you got to use a whole
Arduino from Python on a complete Linux. :I
 
L138[06:18:59] <nxsupert_> By the looks of
it. The RPi 2 is still more powerful.
 
L139[06:19:38] <Izaya> I think I'd
have to custom-compile a kernel and stuff so I could get arch on
that CHIP thing
 
L140[06:19:46] <Izaya> just recompile the
whole thing
 
L141[06:19:47] <Izaya> why not
 
L142[06:19:55] <Izaya> it's a 1Ghz
processor, how long can it take?
 
L143[06:20:04] <nxsupert_> ?
 
L144[06:20:17] <Izaya> I say as I want for
the kernel on my 1.133Ghz Pentium III box to compile its
kernel
 
L145[06:20:18] <DeanIsaKitty> I don't
really get why yall make such a differenciation between Arduino and
Raspis. They are all computers in this sense. If their architecture
is x86 or ARM or AVR or MIPS or whatever doesn't make a
difference really. They all do the same.
 
L146[06:20:22] <Magik6k> Why not
crosscompile?
 
L147[06:20:35] <Izaya> Magik6k,
'cause it's fun.
 
L148[06:21:21] <Magik6k> I compiled
linux(~3.2 iirc) on rpi once
 
L149[06:21:23] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, I
tend to think Arduinos are for use where the performance of an RPi
isn't neccesary, while RPis are used where you don't need
super-precise timing
 
L150[06:22:04] <Magik6k> +Arduinos need
way less power
 
L151[06:22:26] <Izaya> good point
 
L152[06:22:26] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Both
can do both really. You can run bare-metal with a RPi/similar but
you could run Linux on an Arduino - at least theoretically.
 
L153[06:22:47] <Izaya> well, I'm
watching a guy running Linux on an AVR so...
 
L154[06:22:59] <Izaya> looks horrifically
slow but anyway
 
L155[06:23:02] <Magik6k> bare-matal on RPi
is painful
 
L156[06:23:32] <Izaya> Could you compile
UNIX (like, the 16-bit variants) for the 65C816?
 
L157[06:24:09] <Izaya> it supports up to
16MiB RAM
 
L158[06:24:24] <Izaya> and if you got a
good chip you could definitely overclock it a fair bit
 
L159[06:26:11] *
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L160[06:27:38] <nxsupert_> You can do
precise timing on RPi if you go bare metal.
 
L161[06:27:59] <Negi> Going bare-metal on
a Pi must be painful.
 
L162[06:28:06] <Magik6k> it is
 
L163[06:28:19] <Magik6k> this cpu boots
off gpu
 
L164[06:28:36] <nxsupert_> Once you have
the basics though it is fairly easy to modify the GPIO.
 
L166[06:29:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: iirc
65C816 can emulate 65C02 which is a true superset of 6502. Not
completely sure though.
 
L167[06:30:23] <nxsupert_> Using a simple
API I wrote I got it down to gpio_outputSet(25);
 
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L170[07:15:09] <Sangar> o/
 
L171[07:15:19] <Vexatos> \o
 
L172[07:15:42] <nxsupert_> o/
 
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L175[07:17:06] <Sangar> Vexatos, yeah, was
thinking of checkArg right away, too :P
 
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L178[07:17:51] <nxsupert_> Bit...
ummm
 
L179[07:17:51] <Sangar> yeah, kinda
disappointed by that response :/
 
L180[07:18:08] <nxsupert_> Competition can
only be good.
 
L181[07:19:08] <Vexatos> hurr
 
L182[07:19:17] <Sangar> could still be a
"don't want to know about it so people can't say i
got ideas from it" kind of thing. which would still be... meh,
but eh.
 
L183[07:19:18] <nxsupert_> That and in
reality , the only similarity between OC and CC is they add
computers. They way they go about it is completely diffrent.
 
L184[07:19:39] <Vexatos> It's like,
he intentionally keeps his stuff worse than OC
 
L185[07:19:40] <dangranos> huh
 
L186[07:19:53] <Vexatos> so there is no
way on earth he could be accused of copying from OC
 
L187[07:19:55] <Sangar> yeah, that was the
idea from the start; just wasn't as obvious in the beginning
when there was less... stuff :X
 
L188[07:20:13] <Sangar> heh
 
L189[07:20:16] <Cruor> Vexatos: CC works
internaly?
 
L191[07:20:29] <Vexatos> Cruor, what do
you mean
 
L192[07:20:57] <Vexatos> Yes, CC pretty
much only has internal libraries
 
L193[07:21:02] <Vexatos> java
classes
 
L194[07:21:22] <Sangar> *if* the rendering
stuff he's been posting recently is for cc, that'll be
cool. kinda sceptical, still, but would be cool. though i'm
curious how it'd affect bandwidth use :P
 
L195[07:21:42] <Cruor> Sangar: if it isnt
for CC... i will die inside
 
L196[07:21:53] <Cruor> now if dan could
read bug reports, dat be great
 
L197[07:21:55] <Vexatos> Sangar, as people
said, it will be even easier to DoS servers now
 
L198[07:21:58] <dangranos> ew
 
L199[07:22:05] <Vexatos> no way to make
THAT stuff safe the way CC is currently done
 
L200[07:22:48] <Vexatos> s/bug
reports//g
 
L201[07:22:48] <MichiBot1> <Cruor>
now if dan could read , dat be great
 
L202[07:22:49] <Kibibyte> <Cruor>
now if dan could read , dat be great
 
L203[07:23:04] <nxsupert_> Uh Oh
 
L204[07:23:04] <dangranos> stahp pinging
me
 
L205[07:23:07] <dangranos> Q_Q
 
L206[07:23:11] <Cruor>
s/./&&/
 
L207[07:23:12] <Kibibyte>
<dangranos> &&_Q
 
L208[07:23:14] <Vexatos> We have dan and
CC in here
 
L209[07:23:17] <Cruor>
s/./&&/g
 
L210[07:23:17] <MichiBot1> <Cruor>
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
 
L211[07:23:17] <Kibibyte> <Vexatos>
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
 
L212[07:23:18] *
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L213[07:23:19] <Vexatos> :3
 
L214[07:23:21] <Cruor> uhhhhh
 
L215[07:23:26] <Sangar> <_>
 
L216[07:23:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, bad
choice of pings
 
L217[07:23:36] <Cruor> do i want \1
instead? <_>
 
L218[07:23:42] <Cruor> **** SED bots
anyway
 
L219[07:24:51] <Lizzy> %SED disable
 
L220[07:24:57] <Lizzy> %sed disable
 
L221[07:24:58] <MichiBot1> Lizzy: Disabled
SED for this channel
 
L222[07:25:44] <Sangar> i need more ram
:/
 
L223[07:25:58] <Cruor> just download some
D:
 
L224[07:26:00] <Vexatos> Sangar, well, CC
was never meant to be used for gameplay, so DoS potential
doesn't matter
 
L225[07:26:03] <Sangar> right, there was
that
 
L226[07:26:10] <nxsupert_> Use swap
:P
 
L227[07:26:28] <Lizzy> %yt disable
 
L228[07:26:28] <MichiBot1> Lizzy: Disabled
YTInfo for this channel
 
L229[07:26:28] <Sangar> Vexatos, i suppose
so
 
L230[07:26:31] <Vexatos> Noone was ever
supposed to use CC outside of educational purposes but people
forgot >_>
 
L231[07:26:37] <Sangar> hah
 
L232[07:26:52] <Vexatos> People like Cruor
;_;
 
L233[07:27:09] *
Lizzy burns Cruor on the steak 
L234[07:27:16] <dangranos> OC uuids looks
suspiciosly like partition uuids
 
L235[07:27:19] <Cruor> Vexatos: i would
use OC if it wasnt a PITA to get started
 
L236[07:27:28] <Cruor> because redundant
crafting <_<
 
L237[07:27:32] <dangranos> meh
 
L238[07:27:40] <Lizzy> Cruor, you can
change that, you know?
 
L239[07:27:45] <dangranos> AE2
autocrafting is good way to go
 
L240[07:27:47] <Cruor> i have changed that
<_<
 
L241[07:27:50] <dangranos> or what lizzy
said
 
L242[07:27:57] <Lizzy> then why are you
complaining?
 
L243[07:27:59] <Sangar> Cruor, again,
you're invited to contribute a vanilla/simple recipe set
:P
 
L244[07:28:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, he
already did
 
L245[07:28:13] <Sangar> he did?
where's the pr?
 
L246[07:28:15] <Cruor> because i currently
dont really have any motivation to use either of the mods
 
L247[07:28:16] <dangranos> yeeeep
 
L248[07:28:22] <Vexatos> Sangar, no
PR
 
L249[07:28:25] <nxsupert_> I don't
think I have ever done any OC stuff in survival.
 
L250[07:28:34] <Sangar> Vexatos, i said
"contribute", not make :P
 
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L252[07:28:39] <Vexatos> just hypocrisy
P:
 
L253[07:28:39] <Vexatos> Ah
 
L254[07:28:44] <Vexatos> Well, Blame
Cruor
 
L255[07:28:50] *
Lizzy blames Cruor 
L256[07:28:56] <Lizzy> :P
 
L257[07:28:59] <Cruor> my recipes wouldnt
be fit for a "basic recipes" either way
 
L258[07:29:05] <Vexatos> Lizzy:
"EnderBot2, blame *". now
 
L259[07:29:06] <Cruor> it fits for
P&D, nothing more, really
 
L260[07:29:12] <Lizzy> Vexatos, hold
on
 
L261[07:29:19] <Sangar> also i honestly
don't think the recipes are much more "microcrafty"
than most other common tech mods :/
 
L262[07:29:28] *
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L263[07:29:34] <Cruor> Sangar: common tech
mods are also annoying ;_;
 
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L265[07:29:38] <Sangar> ah
 
L266[07:29:39] <Sangar> well then :P
 
L267[07:29:45] <Vexatos> Sangar, fun fact,
when I started convincing Vaygrim to add OC to his pack
 
L268[07:30:03] <Vexatos> he was all kinds
of "we need to get our own recipes to get rid of all that
microcrafting"
 
L269[07:30:06] <Vexatos> then he started
OC once
 
L270[07:30:13] <Vexatos> and realized it
wasn't microcrafy at all :P
 
L271[07:30:16] <Sangar> ^^
 
L272[07:30:30] <Cruor> main problem with
the recipes were that they didnt fit for P&D
 
L273[07:30:37] <Vexatos> Now OC is in
there with default recipes, and VC is considered a
"conventional" pack, configs set to make things as
convenient as possible
 
L274[07:30:49] <Cruor> because having
drones/robots as the only transportation block is kinda
uhhh...
 
L275[07:30:52] <Vexatos> (For instance
dimensional transceivers from EnderIO not consuming any upkeep
power)
 
L276[07:30:56] <Cruor> i aint going to the
end for making a damn drone
 
L277[07:31:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, the only
recipe changed was one added. A recipe for OPPM
 
L278[07:31:20] <Vexatos> It was a floppy +
interweb
 
L279[07:31:21] <dangranos>
9f8c58e5-e06a-4c74-9406-17278b502407 and
909eb899-c10e-4609-be6b-1d9c2cd687ab
 
L280[07:31:30] <dangranos> which one is OC
and which one is RL?
 
L281[07:31:32] <dangranos> :D
 
L282[07:31:40] <Sangar> Vexatos, heh, nice
:D
 
L283[07:31:42] <Vexatos> When you added
that OPPM recipe I was all "what the actual fridge"
 
L284[07:31:45] <Sangar> haha
 
L285[07:31:50] <Vexatos> Like you spied on
me or something
 
L286[07:31:52] <Sangar> well it's
just... logical :X
 
L287[07:32:07] <Vexatos> dangranos, they
are generated just like Reallife ones
 
L288[07:32:14] <Sangar> Cruor,
there's a recipe for endstone now! ;)
 
L289[07:32:14] <dangranos> because
interwebs+disk=interwebs disk
 
L290[07:32:19] <Vexatos> Sangar, that
internet card recipe though
 
L291[07:32:19] <dangranos> endstone?
 
L292[07:32:24] <Sangar> (because that was
a concern that came up a couple of times)
 
L293[07:32:26] <Vexatos> Sangar:
What
 
L294[07:32:28] <Vexatos> how
 
L295[07:32:39] <Lizzy> .shutdown
 
L296[07:32:39] <EnderBot2> Bye bye
 
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ByeBye) 
L298[07:32:39] <Cruor> Sangar: .-. and
what would that be
 
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L300[07:32:44] <Vexatos> You
shouldn't be allowed to craft end stone, rather have a
substitute recipe
 
L301[07:32:45]
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L302[07:32:49] <Vexatos> not requiring end
stone
 
L303[07:32:50] <Sangar> similar to how te
does it, just less efficient because it doesn't need energy
and a machine
 
L304[07:32:54] <dangranos> 3x3
diamonds?
 
L305[07:32:57] <Vexatos> but you must not
make end stone craft-able
 
L306[07:32:58] <Lizzy> EnderBot2, blame
Cruor
 
L307[07:32:59] *
EnderBot2 blames Cruor 
L308[07:33:01] <Lizzy> :P
 
L309[07:33:05] <Lizzy> there you go
Vexatos
 
L310[07:33:06] <Vexatos> k thanks
 
L311[07:33:22] <dangranos> Lizzy, no
dynamic reload?
 
L312[07:33:22] <Vexatos> Sangar, rather
make some "fake end stone"
 
L313[07:33:32] <Vexatos> but do. not.
mess. with. vanilla. balance
 
L314[07:33:34] <Sangar> Vexatos, there are
already ways in other mods for that, so i honestly don't see
much of an issue with it?
 
L315[07:33:45] <nxsupert_> Is there any
chance we will get a dd program in OpenOS?
 
L316[07:33:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, OC is all
built around Vanilla
 
L317[07:33:56] <Vexatos> with recipes
requiring only vanilla resources, etc
 
L318[07:34:05] <Magik6k> there should be
option te relink linked cards in crafting grid
 
L319[07:34:14] <Vexatos> And adding a
recipe for end stone messes with a LOT of mods' balance
 
L320[07:34:20] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, my os
has dd
 
L321[07:34:20] <Lizzy> dangranos, not in
EnderBot2
 
L322[07:34:33] <Sangar> Vexatos, crafting
materials, sorta. everything else? not really. power e.g. :P
 
L323[07:34:34] <dangranos> wry?
 
L324[07:34:37] <Vexatos> Again, Sangar,
add some fake end stone; chamelium + something or whatever
 
L325[07:34:45] <vifino> dangranos: Because
no need?
 
L326[07:34:49] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, it
even works with computronics tapes
 
L327[07:34:50] <Vexatos> and allow drones
to use that+
 
L328[07:34:53] <Lizzy> dangranos, was that
"why" directed at me?
 
L329[07:34:55] <Vexatos> drone
recipe*
 
L330[07:34:57] <nxsupert_> Ohh
 
L331[07:35:00] <Vexatos> like, just add a
second recipe
 
L332[07:35:07] <dangranos> and to sangor
too i guess
 
L333[07:35:10] <Vexatos> or add both to
some new (!) oredict entry
 
L334[07:35:11] <dangranos> *sangar
>_,
 
L335[07:35:13] <nxsupert_> Where is this
OS?
 
L336[07:35:21] <dangranos> nxsupert_,
mpt
 
L337[07:35:31] <Sangar> Vexatos, if you
can give me a concrete example where it breaks something, gladly,
but i honestly couldn't think of one. i had a bunch of mods in
there, and nothing used endstone (for something sensitive
anyway)
 
L338[07:35:48] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, oppm
install mpt; mpt -S plan9k mpt --root=/mnt/somedrive
 
L339[07:35:48] <Vexatos> Sangar: Any mod
requiring end stone to craft 'cause end game
 
L340[07:35:50] <Vexatos> literally any
mod
 
L341[07:36:05] <Sangar> Vexatos, such as?
:P
 
L342[07:36:22] <Vexatos> Any mod balanced
around Vanilla, you probably don't have those in your dev
env
 
L343[07:36:24] <dangranos> mpt -Syu plan9k
--root=/mnt/somedisk
 
L344[07:36:33] <dangranos> Magik6k, DAMN
YOU
 
L345[07:36:35] <dangranos> sorry
 
L346[07:36:37] <Vexatos> And So far OC
works well in almost every mod pack
 
L347[07:36:40] <dangranos> damn
ninjas...
 
L348[07:36:45] <Magik6k> dangranos, -y is
not standard
 
L349[07:36:50] <Vexatos> as it's only
as overpowered as the mods it exists with
 
L350[07:37:00] <Magik6k> i.e. it's
auto accept for now
 
L351[07:37:18] <Sangar> ehh, i'll
think about it
 
L352[07:37:19] <dangranos> Magik6k, sorry,
i added it automatically
 
L353[07:37:25] <Magik6k> hehe
 
L354[07:37:38] <Lizzy> dangranos, if that
"why?" was directed to me saying that EnderBot2
doesn't do dynamic reloading: It doesn't do that because
it was never designed to do so, EnderBot3 is however
 
L355[07:37:40] <dangranos> but still, add
a local db that updates with -y
 
L356[07:37:49] <dangranos> Lizzy, oh,
okay
 
L357[07:37:51] <Vexatos> Sangar, just,
uuh, 4 ender pearls + 4 chamelium -> 4 end stone
 
L358[07:37:58] <dangranos> 2
endstone
 
L359[07:37:58] <Vexatos> then it's
100% doable without visiting the end
 
L360[07:38:00] <Magik6k> dangranos, there
is no local db
 
L361[07:38:04] <Vexatos> but doesn't
change actual end stone
 
L362[07:38:16] <Sangar> Vexatos, it's
currently 4 pearls, 4 sandstone, 1 coal block
 
L363[07:38:17] <dangranos> Magik6k, but
it's so slow do download them
 
L364[07:38:34] <dangranos> oppm is even
slower when you try to install some endlist package
 
L365[07:38:35] <dangranos> maybe
 
L366[07:38:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, yeah, 4
chamelium is redstone, coal and gravel.... maybe a chamelium block
as you get so much chamelium per recipe
 
L367[07:39:09] <Vexatos> 4 chamelium
blocks + 4 ender pearls makes fake end stone
 
L368[07:39:13] <Vexatos> would even make
sense
 
L369[07:39:18] <Magik6k> updates are done
via sending packado md5 sums to server, then it responds with list
of upgradable packages
 
L370[07:39:18] <Vexatos> considering what
chamelium does
 
L371[07:39:34] <Magik6k> *package
 
L372[07:39:40] <Vexatos> Chamelium is made
for faking other blocks, so faking end stone would indeed make
sense
 
L373[07:40:02] <Vexatos> and 4 chamelium
blocks + 4 ender pearls -> 4 fake end stone is reasonably
expensive for a drone as well
 
L374[07:40:16] <Vexatos> as drones are
pretty advanced
 
L375[07:40:22] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
 
L376[07:40:59] <Sangar> that's the
thing really, i see more as a similar tier to robots, but with
different usecases :/
 
L377[07:41:14] <Magik6k> lol, I think I
have hudge problem wirh my netmork
 
L378[07:41:24] <Lizzy> right, back to
coding EnderBot3
 
L379[07:41:36] <Magik6k> time to grab
spoofing card
 
L381[07:42:35] <Vexatos> Sangar, well,
would still be fine, as it really only requires 8 gravel, 4 coal
and 4 (6?) redstone and 4 ender pearls
 
L382[07:42:41] <Vexatos> not much, do you
think
 
L383[07:42:52] <Sangar> yeah
 
L384[07:42:58] <Vexatos> See?
 
L385[07:43:09] <Vexatos> I think it's
quite a nice recipe
 
L386[07:43:13] <Sangar> i'd still
like an actual use-case of skystone :X
 
L387[07:43:21] <Vexatos> considering
it'd produce 4 fake end stone
 
L388[07:43:25] <Vexatos> so enough to make
one drone
 
L389[07:43:34] <Vexatos> from a little bit
of gravel, coal and redstone
 
L390[07:43:38] <Vexatos> (plus the 4 ender
pearls)
 
L391[07:43:59] <Vexatos> Sangar, again,
oredict them both to some "oc:fakeEndStone"
 
L392[07:44:00] <Sangar> yeah. i actually
did think about using that, but then saw the te recipe for
skystone
 
L393[07:44:02] <Vexatos> and use
that
 
L394[07:44:08] <Sangar> so i made it
similar to that
 
L395[07:44:13] <Vexatos> or just add a
second recipe
 
L396[07:44:19] <Vexatos> Do. Not. Balance.
Against. TE.
 
L397[07:44:24] <Vexatos> Remember the
steam dynamo
 
L398[07:44:27] <Sangar> :P
 
L399[07:44:55] <Vexatos> Yea, sooo, for
fancy NEI, I recommend making a new oredict entry and add end stone
and fake end stone to it
 
L400[07:45:06] <Vexatos> Call it
"levitating chamelium" or something
 
L401[07:45:09] <Sangar> yeah, that's
what i'm thinking
 
L402[07:45:12] <Vexatos> and advertise it
being able to float
 
L403[07:45:18] <Vexatos> (Like almost any
other MC block)
 
L404[07:45:21] <Vexatos> but it can
float!
 
L405[07:45:24] <Sangar> psssst
 
L406[07:45:26] <nxsupert_> I am assuming
you os is still WIP Magik6k?
 
L407[07:45:27] <Vexatos> Exactly+
 
L408[07:45:36] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, it
is
 
L409[07:45:44] <Vexatos> Sangar: Could
even make the hover upgrade use it
 
L410[07:46:04] <Magik6k> nxsupert_,
that's why it's on mpt
 
L411[07:46:38] <Sangar> Vexatos,
true
 
L412[07:46:49] <nxsupert_> Like the fact
it has dev/ implemented though.
 
L413[07:47:17] <Vexatos> Some fancy
tooltip like "The latest product of MightyPirates Industries™,
a block that levitates! Believe it or not, but this block can float
on its own! Try making drones with it. Disclaimer: Does not work
with <any mod that adds proper gravity>"
 
L414[07:47:20] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
 
L415[07:47:48] <Vexatos> Something like
that >_>
 
L416[07:48:22] *
Cruor dies of boredness 
L417[07:48:43] <Vexatos> 8 gravel, 4 coal
and 4 (6?) redstone and 4 ender pearls would then give you enough
fake endstone to make 1 drone and you'd even have 14 chamelium
left
 
L418[07:48:49] <Vexatos> Cruor,
boredom*
 
L419[07:48:56] <Cruor> boredety
 
L420[07:49:01] <Vexatos> bore
 
L421[07:49:17] <Vexatos> too bored to
write "boredom" or "bored!"
 
L422[07:49:55] <dangranos> hm, and add
that to angel upgrade
 
L423[07:50:15] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
 
L424[07:50:24] <Vexatos> Angel and hover
upgrade and drones and HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111one
 
L425[07:50:25] <dangranos> and those new
levitation upgrades
 
L426[07:50:28] <Vexatos> I need to go
now
 
L427[07:50:30] <Vexatos> bai
 
L428[07:50:34] <dangranos> *hover
 
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L431[07:51:37]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos 
L433[07:51:54] <Vexatos> Bye now, for
real
 
L434[07:52:39] <Magik6k> wat
 
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L436[07:53:17] <dangranos> i expect a
explicit copypaste
 
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L440[07:56:52] <dangranos> lol
 
L441[07:56:59] <dangranos> rated
-1/5
 
L442[07:57:10] <dangranos> btw, FIX YOUR
DAMN BOT, sorry
 
L443[07:57:29] <nxsupert_> Whats wrong
with the bot?
 
L444[07:57:52] <dangranos> youtube/google
api
 
L445[07:57:56] <dangranos> that's
what
 
L446[07:58:47] <nxsupert_> Tapes just
store raw binary data don't they?
 
L447[07:58:53] <dangranos> yeah
 
L448[07:58:57] <Magik6k> nxsupert_,
yep
 
L449[07:59:06] <dangranos> there should be
few FS for them
 
L450[07:59:14] <dangranos> not sure if
they're working one
 
L451[07:59:20] <Sangar> sooo... it's
a nice gui for "place item from slot x into inventory, emit
redstone, take item back out"?
 
L452[07:59:32] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, in my
os they are block devices at /dev/tapeX
 
L453[07:59:53] <nxsupert_> Yes. i tried to
run ls for it. It crashed.
 
L454[08:00:10] <dangranos> Sangar,
yep
 
L455[08:00:24] <Magik6k> well it's a
file
 
L456[08:00:31] <Magik6k> or did you do ls
/dev?
 
L457[08:00:39] <Sangar> well. nice gui, i
guess ;)
 
L458[08:00:44] <nxsupert_> ls
dev/tape1
 
L459[08:00:47] <dangranos> Sangar,
;)
 
L460[08:01:46] <Magik6k> that's
probably missing check in devfs proxy
 
L462[08:04:18] <dangranos> "Increased
the bitrate on most Computronics textures, they should look much
better now." oh you
 
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L466[08:06:33] <nxsupert_> So does your OS
treat a tape as a file system or a file?
 
L467[08:06:56] <Magik6k> nxsupert_, block
device(so a file)
 
L468[08:07:03] <nxsupert_> Ok
 
L469[08:07:15] <Magik6k> just like
/dev/sda in linux
 
L470[08:07:33] <nxsupert_> Ahh
 
L471[08:07:51] <Magik6k> in future
I'll implement some mkfs/mount stuff
 
L472[08:08:08] <Magik6k> fat16 filesystem
I think
 
L474[08:11:15] <dangranos> from half of
year ago
 
L475[08:12:07] <dangranos> there still
could be some tabs..
 
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L479[08:40:23] <Inari> tapes sound pretty
slow
 
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L481[08:40:32] <Inari> ah, read can take a
lenght wiht OC
 
L482[08:40:34] <Inari> so nto that
slow
 
L483[08:43:39] <Inari> asie: there arent
actually any competent MC clones, at least none I've
seen
 
L484[08:44:06] <nxsupert_>
Creativerse?
 
L485[08:44:52] <asie> Inari: and i want to
make my own
 
L486[08:44:56] <asie> well, not really a
clone
 
L487[08:45:03] <asie> i have serious
issues with the design of both MC and mods
 
L488[08:45:31] <Inari> competent meaning,
better performance, better design, better modding capability and
integration (mods working together) etc xD
 
L489[08:45:33] <Inari> and just like
 
L490[08:45:35] <Inari> not sucking
 
L491[08:45:45] <nxsupert_> I am rather
interested to see what eloram is cooking up.
 
L492[08:45:47] <asie> Inari: that's
true
 
L493[08:45:55] <asie> nxsupert_: terrible
graphics design, she's making Terasology's mistakes
 
L494[08:46:04] <asie> also no real modding
to speak of confirmed
 
L495[08:46:11] <Inari> terasology?
 
L496[08:46:15] <asie> Inari: it's a
MC clone
 
L497[08:46:26] <nxsupert_> Whats wrong
with the graphics design?
 
L498[08:46:33] <asie> nxsupert_:
there's a mix and match of detail
 
L499[08:46:35] <asie> and an abuse of
shaders
 
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L501[08:46:54] <nxsupert_> That
doesn't really bother me.
 
L502[08:46:56] <Inari> hm yeah, looks a
bit off
 
L503[08:47:23] <nxsupert_> And she has
been talking about modding a lot. Well , was a while back.
 
L504[08:47:44] <Inari> is her game
opensource?
 
L505[08:48:16] <Inari> caus elike, someone
will have to update it when she vanishes another 6 months to play
moba :p
 
L506[08:48:57] <nxsupert_> True...
 
L507[08:49:45] <Inari> im not sure if the
whole relfection stuff fits into a block asethetic super-well
xD
 
L508[08:51:08] <nxsupert_> Well. Still. It
is written in c++ , which is a massive improvement from MC.
 
L509[08:51:36] <Inari> meh, java isnt
exactly bad
 
L510[08:51:43] <Inari> though c++/rust
i'd like :P
 
L511[08:51:46] <asie> Java?
 
L512[08:51:49] <asie> Superior to C++ in
my view.
 
L513[08:51:51] <asie> Yes.
 
L514[08:51:59] <asie> C++ is a badly
designed piece of shit that's only used due to inertia.
 
L515[08:51:59] <nxsupert_> It is
slow.
 
L516[08:52:02] <asie> No.
 
L517[08:52:06] <Inari> with most stuff now
it matters more on how good your algorithm is
 
L518[08:52:08] <Inari> than on what you
use
 
L519[08:52:13] <asie> Java is about as
fast as it can possibly get
 
L520[08:52:14] <Inari> plus well
 
L521[08:52:16] <nxsupert_> Compared to C
java is slower.
 
L522[08:52:17] <Inari> how competent you
are at using it
 
L523[08:52:21] <Inari> notch wasnt very
competent at java
 
L524[08:52:25] <asie> nxsupert_: If you
use Java like you use C it's almost the same
 
L525[08:52:45] <Inari> hm not sure
i'd say java is the quickest somehting can get thouhg
haha
 
L526[08:53:02] <nxsupert_> Except you
can't , because you have very little control over memory
managment.
 
L527[08:53:29] <Inari> instead of c,
i'd use rust though
 
L528[08:53:44] <vifino> Instead of C++
I
 
L529[08:53:48] <vifino> 'd use Go
:D
 
L531[08:54:05] <nxsupert_> Instead of C ,
I'd use assembly :P
 
L532[08:54:18] <vifino> nxsupert_ just
lost all of his sanity.
 
L533[08:54:19] <Sangar> let's just
all agree to use php, mkay? :P
 
L534[08:54:23] <Inari> Sangar: meh, not
really interested in performance discussion till rust is done,
optimized and has optimized libraries about
 
L535[08:54:39] <nxsupert_> I don't
like php. Node.js ftw :P
 
L536[08:54:49] <Sangar> Inari, just linked
it because i still had the tab open, and it also had java + c in
the graph ;)
 
L537[08:54:59] <Sangar> nxsupert_, nobody
likes php :P
 
L538[08:55:11] <nxsupert_> how about
Cobol?
 
L540[08:56:12] <Inari> plus, c++ is a
pretty horrible patchwork by now all things considered
 
L541[08:56:53] <nxsupert_> You sound like
Torvalds :P
 
L542[08:56:54] <Sangar> ehh, i disagree.
c++11 actually made the language pretty usable
 
L543[08:57:17] <Inari> its still a
terrible mess xD
 
L544[08:57:26] <Inari> plus, c++11 doesnt
rdi all of the old even crappier code
 
L545[08:57:56] <Inari> anyway, i just like
rust as a language
 
L547[08:58:05] <nxsupert_> i have never
used rust
 
L548[08:58:05] <Inari> Results are much
nicer than exeception
 
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L550[08:59:22] <nxsupert_> Still. For the
most part I use c , c# and Javascript
 
L551[09:00:07] <Inari> i'D probably
go js/html5 for anything that can live on the web (browser-side),
rust for lower level stuff (incluidng stuff needing more
performance, or just server-side stuff), and c# for desktop
apps
 
L552[09:00:59] <Inari> maybe rust for
games though instead of c# :p
 
L553[09:01:11] <nxsupert_> I'd still
use c for desktop stuff. Which I never really make. The only time I
use c# is when working with Unity.
 
L554[09:01:23] <Inari> i gotta look into
unity more~
 
L555[09:02:15] <nxsupert_> Unity 5 is
pretty awesome. Can easily some nice graphical stuff.
 
L556[09:02:25] <Inari> Sangar: i still
have to go and understand vectors/iterators in c++11 better
<.<
 
L557[09:02:37] <Inari> nxsupert_: you a
verb there
 
L558[09:02:51] <nxsupert_> ?
 
L559[09:03:26] <vifino> I'd use Go
for server side stuff, Ruby for quick ideas, Lua for stuff that
needs to run on routers or generally just for things that need to
be fast and lightweight, some lisp if I feel like that today and
PHP when I'm trying to murder myself.
 
L560[09:03:30] <Sangar> Inari, for(auto x
: v) { ... } in c++11 :3
 
L561[09:04:13] <Inari> Sangar: well i
tried finding something in one vecotr and then adding it to the
beginning iterator of the other vector :P it didnt like that for
whatever reason, also tried taking the dsitance between beginning
and found index and add that to the beginning iterator of the other
vector
 
L562[09:04:14] <Inari> didnt like that
either
 
L563[09:04:26] <Sangar> ah :P
 
L564[09:04:45] <Inari> nxsupert_: "
Can easily some nice graphical stuff." <- lacks a verb
D:
 
L565[09:05:06] <nxsupert_> I can make
things that look pretty.
 
L566[09:05:29] <vifino> I can make things
that work.
 
L567[09:05:43] <Inari> i can make work for
things?
 
L568[09:05:50] <vifino> :P
 
L569[09:05:58] <nxsupert_> I can not do
not can do i.
 
L571[09:06:40] <nxsupert_> Mhe.
 
L572[09:06:44] <nxsupert_> MEAN ftw
:P
 
L573[09:07:51] <vifino> This thing is
kinda like express..
 
L574[09:07:58] <Cruor> vifino:
tag"title"("Hello World!") () is
redundant
 
L575[09:08:11] <vifino> Cruor: You are
redundant
 
L576[09:09:22] <nxsupert_> Anyone here
ever written anything in assembly?
 
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L579[09:10:09] <vifino> Of course.
 
L580[09:10:16] <vifino> Well, modified,
that is.
 
L581[09:10:23] <vifino> <3
radare2
 
L582[09:11:22] <vifino> Cruor: Yes,
it's redundant, you can leave it out if you want
>_>
 
L583[09:12:35] <vifino> Cruor: do you like
it?
 
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L586[09:13:38] <Cruor> i prefer Django
>_<
 
L587[09:13:52] <vifino> >_>
 
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L589[09:16:18] <vifino> Cruor: Do you like
it or not? >_<
 
L590[09:17:19] <Cruor> why do i need this?
;_;
 
L591[09:18:58] <vifino> Cruor: because
dynamic sites and awesome templating stuffs
 
L592[09:19:10] <Cruor> ... but i have
Django ;_;
 
L593[09:19:26] <vifino> ... But Django is
python .-.
 
L594[09:19:54] <vifino> And I bet that
carbon is faster than Django.
 
L595[09:20:14] <Cruor> as if you used
Python to brag about performance speed
 
L596[09:20:34] <vifino> As if I would use
python at all >_>
 
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L601[10:05:43] <Oddstr13> vifino: well,
you can cache all them things if you set up django & nginx for
that, so...
 
L602[10:05:58] <vifino> Oddstr13:
.-.
 
L603[10:06:04] <vifino> Where is the fun
in that?
 
L604[10:06:42] <Oddstr13> if speed is your
goal, RAM cached prerendred webpages is the way to go
 
L605[10:08:26] <Oddstr13> why don't
you like Python anyway?
 
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L607[10:18:19] <CompanionCube> I found a
source-to-source compiler for ruby -> javascript
 
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L616[10:46:09] <vifino> Oddstr13: Because
indentationhell is bleh .-.
 
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L628[11:17:18] <dangranos> O_o
 
L629[11:17:25] <dangranos> SE goes
open-source
 
L630[11:17:29] <dangranos> but
non-free
 
L631[11:17:42] <dangranos> (SE itself,
code is free, i think?)
 
L632[11:21:47] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos:
This *might* also mean that some crazy person will port SE to
Linux. Hmm. I'm curious what will result from that move.
 
L633[11:30:26] <Kubuxu> \o
 
L634[11:31:37] <Kubuxu> Magik6k, I think
we should switch from RPi to CHIP when it comes out. It has still
enough power to make OC in real world in bare mater but is much
much cheaper.
 
L635[11:31:45] <Kubuxu> lol
 
L636[11:31:59] <Kubuxu> s/bare mater/bare
metal
 
L637[11:31:59] <Kibibyte> <Kubuxu>
Magik6k, I think we should switch from RPi to CHIP when it comes
out. It has still enough power to make OC in real world in bare
metal but is much much cheaper.
 
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L639[11:37:21] <nxsupert_> o/
 
L640[11:49:51] <DeanIsaKitty> \o
 
L641[11:54:02] <Temia> CHIP's only
cheaper because it strips out everything you need for more than the
most barebones interfacing honestly .-.
 
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L644[12:06:18] <Oddstr13> Temia: I'd
like a full datasheet with pinout of the thing
 
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L666[14:11:02] <nxsupert_> o/
 
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L670[14:35:10] <gamax92> %p
 
L671[14:35:15] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from
gamax92 4.92s
 
L672[14:35:20] <gamax92> i cri
 
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L675[14:36:42] <Altenius> %p
 
L676[14:36:43] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from
Altenius 0.46s
 
L677[14:39:00] <gamax92>
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha no
 
L678[14:39:07] <gamax92> phone says 100%
signal strength
 
L679[14:39:09] <gamax92> fucking
bullshit
 
L680[14:41:40] <Negi> I don't even
have 25% signal
 
L681[14:42:14] <nxsupert_> %p
 
L682[14:42:17] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from
nxsupert_ 1.35s
 
L683[14:42:21] <nxsupert_> :(
 
L684[14:42:33] <Altenius> %p
 
L685[14:42:34] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from
Altenius 0.36s
 
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L687[14:42:59] <Altenius_> %p
 
L688[14:43:03] <MichiBot1> Ping reply from
Altenius_ 4.23s
 
L689[14:43:13] <ping> stahp
 
L690[14:43:16] <Altenius_> What.... This
is without the bouncer
 
L692[14:43:22] <gamax92> "This
product cannot be shipped to the following countries due to
copyright and other region restrictions: Japan."
 
L693[14:43:24] <gamax92> wat
 
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L695[14:43:39] <nxsupert_> Speedtest.net
tells me I have a 35 ms ping.
 
L696[14:43:59] <ping> nxsupert_, irc is
different .-.
 
L697[14:44:29] <nxsupert_> Ok.
 
L698[14:44:43] <nxsupert_> It must be
annoying to have the user name "Ping"
 
L699[14:44:52] <Altenius> Hmm. Has anyone
tried making a botnet that communicates through IRC?
 
L700[14:44:56] <gamax92> ping gets pinged
a lot because his name is ping
 
L701[14:45:07] <ping> Altenius, yes
 
L702[14:45:09] <gamax92> I don't know
why his name is ping
 
L703[14:45:11] <Altenius> oh :(
 
L704[14:45:21] <gamax92> ping you should
change your nickname
 
L705[14:45:27] <gamax92> it would prevent
you from being ping 'd
 
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L708[14:45:40] <gamax92> mission
clear
 
L709[14:45:42] <S3> There's no place
like ::1
 
L710[14:45:45] <gamax92> S3!
 
L712[14:45:55] <S3> Today was my first
day
 
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L714[14:46:02] <gamax92> first day to
what
 
L715[14:46:07] <Caitlyn> Altenius, LOTS of
botnets are commanded via IRC.
 
L716[14:46:10] <S3> working at the virtual
reality research lab
 
L717[14:46:19] <gamax92> What happened to
Katie
 
L718[14:46:21] <S3> fun fun fun
 
L719[14:46:26] <Altenius> Oh :\. Every
idea is already taken >_>
 
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L721[14:46:34] <gamax92> Altenius: make a
Splatoon clone
 
L722[14:46:36] <S3> Altenius, nope.
 
L723[14:46:48] <gamax92> finish your
emulator
 
L724[14:46:48] <Katie> gamax92, it changed
when esper did maint
 
L725[14:46:53] <gamax92> ahh
 
L726[14:46:58] <nxsupert_> Today was my
7th say of revising :(
 
L727[14:47:04] <Altenius> Oh ya, I got
frustrated with epis
 
L728[14:47:07] <PixelToast> ?
 
L729[14:47:09] <nxsupert_> r say/day
 
L730[14:47:18] <nxsupert_> not how you do
it? Ok.
 
L731[14:47:19] <gamax92> Altenius: why do
you need eris for an emulator
 
L732[14:47:27] <Altenius>
Presistance...
 
L733[14:47:32] <S3> gamax92, so to get
myself into familiarity with the new Minecraft Forge, I decided to
make a very very very simple OC architecture. once I get that
working (it doesn't emulate anything but is still very
useful!) then I got some plans for OCSymon
 
L734[14:47:36] <Katie> nxsupert_,
it's s/replace/replacement
 
L735[14:47:40] <Katie> s/say/day/
 
L736[14:47:40] <Kibibyte>
<nxsupert_> r day/day
 
L738[14:47:45] <Katie> lol
 
L739[14:47:51] <nxsupert_> :P
 
L740[14:47:57] <Katie> s/7th say/7th
day
 
L741[14:47:57] <Kibibyte>
<nxsupert_> Today was my 7th day of revising :(
 
L742[14:48:05] <S3> gamax92, I think
you're really going to like this though
 
L743[14:48:08] <Altenius> I mean.. Should
I just give up on persistence?]
 
L744[14:48:09] <gamax92> S3: hmm?
 
L745[14:48:13] <gamax92> Altenius: I
dunno
 
L746[14:48:21] <gamax92> My emu has no
persistence
 
L747[14:48:30] <Altenius> What
language?
 
L748[14:48:36] <gamax92> lua :P
 
L749[14:48:46] <Altenius> hmm
 
L750[14:48:52] <S3> persistence is
lame
 
L752[14:49:01] <Altenius> Whatever,
I'll nuke it
 
L753[14:49:10] <nxsupert_> I've just
come up with an evil idea for an architecture :D
 
L754[14:49:11] <gamax92> it makes sense
for minecraft where the chunk may or may not be loaded
 
L755[14:49:24] <gamax92> S3: what'chu
makin
 
L757[14:49:52] <S3> gamax92, you'll
love this
 
L758[14:50:02] <S3> when yyou can write
haskell, erlang, Perl, C, C++ on OC.
 
L759[14:50:04] <nxsupert_> Although it
would be rather hard to to release it because of the fact that its
name can't be said.
 
L760[14:50:14] <gamax92> S3: is it
ARM
 
L761[14:50:17] <S3> that's a
hint.
 
L762[14:50:19] <S3> nope.
 
L763[14:50:21] <asie> is it LEG?
 
L764[14:50:30] <S3> it is much simpler
than that
 
L765[14:50:33] <asie> MIPS?
 
L766[14:50:37] <S3> nope.
 
L767[14:50:42] <gamax92> Z180?
 
L768[14:50:51] <S3> NO but I would love to
see a Z80180 arch
 
L769[14:51:17] <S3> gamax92, I call it OC
Quantum Stargate.
 
L770[14:51:40] <S3> and I think it will
really revolutionize some of my projects.
 
L771[14:52:08] <nxsupert_> Ok. This is too
good not to do. I'm making a BF architecture.
 
L772[14:52:18] <S3> nxsupert_, :)
 
L773[14:52:25] <gamax92>
waaawawawawa
 
L774[14:53:01] <Negi> nxsupert_: Extended
BF, doe, no ?
 
L775[14:53:47] <nxsupert_> I think i would
probably have to add some additional commands other than the
standard 8.
 
L776[14:54:03] <Negi> 8 ?
 
L777[14:54:12] <asie> +-,.[]<>
 
L778[14:54:16] <Negi> Oh.
 
L780[14:54:20] <nxsupert_>
><+-.,[]
 
L781[14:54:21] <S3> let's multiply 3
* 5
 
L782[14:54:27] <asie> that's
easy
 
L783[14:54:32] <asie>
+++[>+++++<-]
 
L784[14:54:36] <S3>
+++[>+++++<=]
 
L785[14:54:39] <S3> opps =
 
L787[14:54:42] <asie> :^)
 
L788[14:54:43] <PixelToast> extended bf is
masterrace
 
L789[14:54:48] <S3> heheh
 
L790[14:55:40] <Kubuxu> asie, bequnge is
better.
 
L791[14:55:48] <Kubuxu> n-dimensional
befunge.
 
L792[14:55:49] <Negi> I need to read more
BF stuff.
 
L793[14:55:56] <nxsupert_> Well how could
I make it call external commands?
 
L794[14:56:25] <Kubuxu> nxsupert_, there
are extensions but everything depends on your interpreter.
 
L795[14:57:09] <nxsupert_> I'd
probably write my own interpreter , it is simple enough.
 
L796[14:57:11] <Kubuxu> One way is memory
mapping.
 
L797[14:57:48] <nxsupert_> Like saying
setting the data at point x causing function y to be called for
peripheral z?
 
L798[14:59:07] <Kubuxu> More like: data at
region 101-228 is mapped externally and updating 100
executes.
 
L799[14:59:37] <nxsupert_> Ok.
 
L800[14:59:53] <Kubuxu> But ask ping when
he is back.
 
L801[15:00:04] <Kubuxu> He wrote whole irc
bot in brainfuck
 
L802[15:00:12] <nxsupert_> :P
 
L803[15:00:13] <Kubuxu> PixelToast,
^^
 
L804[15:02:18] <nxsupert_> Then there is
the question. Should I store the program in the same place as the
data?
 
L805[15:02:39] <Kubuxu> Meaning?
 
L806[15:03:18] <nxsupert_> The program
could modify itself on run time.
 
L807[15:03:47] <Negi> nxsupert_:
Technically, the program /is/ data. But then, modifying at runtime
seems a bit...
 
L808[15:03:56] <Kubuxu> BF by design is
not self changing.
 
L809[15:04:32] <Kubuxu> If you want
something way cooler look for befunge
 
L810[15:04:56] <Kubuxu> It is my favourite
esoteric language.
 
L811[15:05:22] <Kubuxu> Especially its
extension bequnge which expands the space from 2D to nD.
 
L812[15:05:37] <Kubuxu> You can create
real sub routines and so on.
 
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L816[15:09:27] <nxsupert_> I think I will
stick to 2D
 
L817[15:11:24] <Kubuxu> When you design
functions and coroutines 2D is fine. But 4D allows you to do
routing, remote calls and returns.
 
L818[15:11:54] <nxsupert_> Mhh
 
L819[15:12:24] <nxsupert_> But how would
one read a 4D program
 
L820[15:12:26] <nxsupert_> ?
 
L821[15:13:07] <Kubuxu> You use one
dimension as a way to go to different 3D space.
 
L822[15:13:27] <nxsupert_> Ok.
 
L823[15:13:32] <Kubuxu> And 3D is
perfectly normal to read after getting used to.
 
L824[15:14:28] <Negi> >&~v // ^
< // Simplest befunge program evah
 
L825[15:14:48] <nxsupert_> What does it
do?
 
L826[15:15:39] <Negi> nxsupert_: Grabs a
character from the user and prints it back.
 
L827[15:15:41] <Negi> Well
 
L828[15:15:49] <Negi> Actually I got that
wrong lmao
 
L829[15:16:00] <Negi> That's ~, and
not &~
 
L830[15:16:40] <Kubuxu> >~,>
 
L831[15:16:59] <Kubuxu> This will ask for
char and output it indefinitely.
 
L832[15:17:24] <Kubuxu> It is same as
>~.
 
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L834[15:18:59] <Negi> Kubuxu: So it wraps
around ?
 
L835[15:19:01] <nxsupert_> There is still
the problem of how I communicate with peripherals?
 
L836[15:19:31] <Kubuxu> Negi, yeah.
 
L837[15:20:15] <Kubuxu> The funge space is
a torus
 
L838[15:22:23] <Kubuxu> nxsupert_, you
could make it read output and include some control characters or
use Extensions form Funge-98
 
L840[15:22:31] <Altenius> What does the
computer.energy() function return when no energy is needed (i.e.
creative case or no energy mod installed)
 
L841[15:23:02] <Sangar> math.huge
 
L842[15:23:18] <Sangar> for the
latter
 
L843[15:23:19] <Altenius> O: You're
not afk!
 
L844[15:23:31] <Sangar> indeed :P
 
L845[15:24:02] <Sangar> for the former,
usually maxEnergy
 
L846[15:24:12] <Vexatos> HexChat
conveniently shows if someone or something is AFK
 
L847[15:24:26] <Negi> Under a certain user
limit
 
L848[15:24:39] ⇦
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L850[15:24:46] <Sangar> well, to be fair,
i'm sometimes afk but forget to tell irc about it :X
 
L851[15:24:51] <Kubuxu> Vexatos, but
refresh takes some time or until this someone types
something.
 
L852[15:25:04] <Kubuxu> s/this //
 
L853[15:25:27] <Vexatos> not for me
 
L854[15:25:50] ⇦
Quits: CoolSquid (~CoolSquid@ti0011a400-6728.bb.online.no) (Quit:
Leaving) 
L855[15:26:26] <Kubuxu> It might be due to
using irssi as bouncer,
 
L856[15:26:29] <nxsupert_> I could the
"" push to some kind of buffer that calls peripheral
functions.
 
L857[15:26:51] <nxsupert_> s/the / make
the
 
L858[15:26:55] ⇦
Quits: Kibibyte (~PircBotX@cucumber.kilobyte22.de) (Ping timeout:
202 seconds) 
L859[15:27:13] <nxsupert_> I think we may
have crashed it.
 
L860[15:27:47] <Kubuxu> nxsupert_, look
into the specification I sent you.
 
L861[15:28:47] <Kubuxu> You request some
extension and then in () scope there is new bunding.
 
L862[15:30:59] <nxsupert_> umm
 
L863[15:31:29] <Katie> %yt enable
 
L864[15:31:29] <MichiBot1> Katie: Enabled
YTInfo for this channel
 
L865[15:31:32] <Katie> %sed enable
 
L866[15:31:32] <MichiBot1> Katie: Enabled
SED for this channel
 
L867[15:33:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2>
s/enable/disable/g
 
L868[15:33:05] <MichiBot1> <Katie>
%sed disable
 
L869[15:33:19] <Katie> %chgnick
MichiBot
 
L870[15:33:19] ***
MichiBot1 is now known as MichiBot 
L871[15:33:26] <Katie> %ignore
SuPeRMiNoR2
 
L872[15:33:33] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ;(
 
L873[15:33:36] <Katie> :P
 
L874[15:33:39] <nxsupert_> lol
 
L875[15:33:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2> It
didn't even do anything
 
L876[15:33:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> XD
 
L877[15:34:24] <Katie> %ignorelist
 
L878[15:34:24] <MichiBot> Katie: Ignored
Users: [Shuudoushi, Al, LanteaBot, lua_bot, SuPeRMiNoR2]
 
L879[15:34:27] <Katie> you sure?
 
L880[15:35:01] <nxsupert_> %ignore
Katie
 
L881[15:35:08] <Katie> lulz
 
L882[15:35:09] <Katie> %ignorelist
 
L883[15:35:09] <MichiBot> Katie: Ignored
Users: [Shuudoushi, Al, LanteaBot, lua_bot, SuPeRMiNoR2]
 
L884[15:35:10] <nxsupert_> Worth a try
:P
 
L885[15:35:22] <nxsupert_> %ignore
 
L886[15:35:24] <Katie> if
(IRCBot.admins.containsKey(account) ||
event.getChannel().isOp(event.getUser())) {
 
L887[15:35:35] <nxsupert_> Oh
 
L888[15:35:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I meant the
sed thing didn't do anything Katie
 
L889[15:36:25] <Katie> Whaat did you
expect it to do? it only reacts of the prefix is the first
character.
 
L890[15:37:05] <Katie> Also, all of the
enable/disable commands require botadmin, or +o
 
L891[15:37:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I thought it
would be funny
 
L892[15:37:38] <SuPeRMiNoR2> $say are you
alive
 
L893[15:37:38] <SuperBot> are you
alive
 
L894[15:37:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Oh nice
 
L895[15:38:15] <Katie> %unignore
SuPeRMiNoR2
 
L896[15:38:20] <Katie> %ignorelist
 
L897[15:38:21] <MichiBot> Katie: Ignored
Users: [Shuudoushi, Al, LanteaBot, lua_bot]
 
L898[15:38:34] *
CompanionCube likes using Atom + terminal plugin 
L899[15:38:49] <Katie> %authed
 
L900[15:38:49] <MichiBot> Katie:
Authenticated to Nickserv account Michiyo
 
L901[15:38:52] <Katie> %authcount
 
L902[15:38:53] <MichiBot> Katie: Current
hashmap size is: 123
 
L903[15:39:02] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Waiiit why is
shuu ignored
 
L904[15:39:22] <Katie> Why wouldn't
Shuu be ignored? Have you talked to shuu?
 
L905[15:39:34] <Katie> The fact I let him
use my bouncer is bad enough
 
L906[15:39:35] <Katie> :P
 
L907[15:39:58] <Katie> %usercount
 
L908[15:39:59] <MichiBot> Katie: Current
hashmap size is: 120
 
L909[15:40:10] <Katie> Hmm....
 
L910[15:40:14] <Katie> That's..
off
 
L911[15:40:18] <Katie> s/off/odd/
 
L912[15:40:19] <MichiBot> <Katie>
That's.. odd
 
L913[15:40:23] <Katie> but either works
really
 
L914[15:50:03] <rashy> \o/
 
L915[15:50:08] <nxsupert_> o/
 
L917[15:51:07] <rashy> Skye!
 
L918[15:51:20] *
rashy pokes Skye 
L919[15:51:26] *
Skye squeaks 
L920[15:51:55] <rashy> :D
 
L921[15:52:36] *
Skye pokes rashy 
L923[15:52:54] <Izaya> also
 
L924[15:52:59] <Izaya> what the fuck is
going on here
 
L925[15:53:08] *
rashy purrs 
L926[15:53:13] <rashy> ;D
 
L927[15:53:22] <Skye> Izaya, I don't
really know...
 
L928[15:53:27] <nxsupert_> I don't
get that image.
 
L930[15:54:06] <Skye> Izaya, haha
 
L931[15:54:07] <nxsupert_> Linux
isn't that complex.
 
L932[15:54:17] <Lizzy> Izaya, dammit now
i'm sad
 
L933[15:54:20] <Skye> nxsupert_, it's
more the things you can do with it.
 
L934[15:54:25] <Izaya> The worst part
is
 
L935[15:54:41] <Izaya> I realised that a
similar thing happened to me
 
L936[15:54:43] <nxsupert_> You can do
everything you can do with Linux with OS X :P
 
L937[15:54:52] <Izaya> when I first
started playing with Linux, I had a shitty netbook
 
L938[15:55:05] <Temia> It's less what
Linux needs
 
L939[15:55:11] <Temia> And more what Linux
inspires.
 
L940[15:55:12] ⇦
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(~Vexatos@p200300556E1FAD600051317F46982093.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
(Quit: I guess I have to go now. Bye ✔) 
L941[15:55:14] <Izaya> nxsupert_, show me
swap on a ramdisk on another machine using NFS over a network
 
L942[15:55:15] <Temia> +_+
 
L943[15:55:44] <Skye> Thanks to linux, I
rebuilt a Pentium 4 and hooked up a serial terminal
 
L944[15:56:04] <Izaya> Skye, I need to do
a video of my setup recently
 
L945[15:56:10] <Skye> haah
 
L946[15:56:17] <Temia> Thanks to Linux, I
am making a self-contained arcade game in a joystick! Also
alphastations!
 
L947[15:56:29] <Izaya> Temia, like, DEC
ALPHA?
 
L948[15:56:32] <Temia> Wait, I guess Linux
isn't really helping there
 
L949[15:56:34] <Temia> Yeah :D
 
L950[15:56:38] <nxsupert_> I wish I had a
good linux box :(
 
L951[15:56:41] <Temia> Old ones
though.
 
L952[15:56:47] <Izaya> q_q I don't
even have anything ARM to run Linux on
 
L953[15:56:49] <Skye> I have wires in my
room that start to get to Lain's level
 
L954[15:56:54] <Izaya> I want a RISC box
D:
 
L955[15:57:07] <Temia> And my options are
either oldass and broken BSD versions
 
L956[15:57:13] <rashy> pick up a Pi
 
L957[15:57:17] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
>you are in the coding zone and you has to go on shitty
tablet
 
L958[15:57:27] <Izaya> maybe I should
re-write the microcode on one of these Core 2 Duos
 
L959[15:57:28] <Temia> Or trying to build
Gentoo on...
 
L960[15:57:32] <Izaya> they're
internally RISC anyway
 
L961[15:57:38] <Temia> ...a DEC Alpha
._.
 
L962[15:57:46] <Izaya> Temia, I would
choose gentoo
 
L963[15:57:53] <Izaya> just because then
you could run recent stuff
 
L964[15:58:03] <Temia> Alternatively
trying to mash TRU64 together with LLVM and see what happens
 
L965[15:58:09] <Skye> Izaya, uhh... Is
rewiring microcode that even practically doable for a single
person?
 
L966[15:58:24] <Izaya> Skye, of course not
:D
 
L967[15:58:29] <nxsupert_> Screw it. I am
chucking Debian on my spare PC.
 
L968[15:58:42] <Izaya> Good choice.
Install all the DEs!
 
L969[15:58:49] ***
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L970[15:58:58] <Izaya> And WindowMaker
because it's cool in a weird way
 
L971[15:59:08] <Skye> WindowMaker...
 
L972[15:59:48] <Skye> oh yeah, the WM that
is like nextstep
 
L973[16:00:42] <Skye> I kinda like
it
 
L974[16:01:02] <Izaya> I was running it on
my Pentium 4 box for a while
 
L975[16:01:30] <Izaya> but now it has xfce
more-or-less configured exactly like my desktop
 
L976[16:01:34] <Izaya> because
synergy
 
L977[16:02:31] <SuPeRMiNoR2> nxsupert_: go
deeper, install Debian on all the PCs
 
L978[16:02:44] ⇦
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reset by peer) 
L979[16:02:57] <nxsupert_> Na. i'd
like to keep OS X on my Mac book :P
 
L980[16:03:28] <Skye> It's funny, if
my parents didn't want me to clean my room, it would be like
Lain's. except for the water.
 
L981[16:03:35] <Izaya> Have fun with your
restricted UNIX then
 
L982[16:03:46] <nxsupert_> Who?
 
L983[16:08:17] ***
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L984[16:08:40] <Izaya> nxsupert_,
you.
 
L985[16:08:42] <Izaya> Skye|ZZZ,
waait
 
L986[16:08:50] <Izaya> I just recorded a
video of my computer room
 
L987[16:08:56] <rashy> o/ g'night
Skye|ZZZ
 
L988[16:08:57] <nxsupert_> I can disable
the limiting features.
 
L989[16:09:30] <Izaya> can you disable the
shitty WM that insists on drop shadows?
 
L990[16:09:34] <nxsupert_> I mean OS X is
basically just BSD with some security on top.
 
L991[16:10:01] <Negi> Kubuxu:
Funge-in-a-PNG ?
 
L992[16:10:14] <nxsupert_> I can change
the window server with some hackery.
 
L993[16:10:20] <Izaya> more coffee
time
 
L994[16:10:32] <nxsupert_> although that
would mean disabling everything I would get a mac for.
 
L995[16:11:21] <Altenius> So uh.. What
companies do you guys want to die?
 
L996[16:11:49] <nxsupert_> Microsoft , EA
,
 
L997[16:12:18] <PotatoTrumpet> Valve
 
L998[16:12:25] <Altenius> Why valve?
 
L999[16:12:29] <nxsupert_> Whats wrong
with Valve?
 
L1000[16:12:34] <PotatoTrumpet>
Everything
 
L1001[16:12:47] <PotatoTrumpet> Oh, and
Comcast
 
L1002[16:12:50] <Altenius> Valve seems to
be the only company to care about getting games on linux
 
L1003[16:13:02] <nxsupert_> Steam is
probably one of the best things that has ever happened to
games.
 
L1004[16:13:11] <PotatoTrumpet>
s/valve/Indie devs
 
L1005[16:13:12] <MichiBot>
<Altenius> Why Indie devs?
 
L1006[16:13:17] <PotatoTrumpet> :/
 
L1007[16:13:26] <Altenius> lol
 
L1008[16:13:41] <CompanionCube> Altenius,
Sky Broadband
 
L1009[16:13:43] <CompanionCube>
POS.
 
L1010[16:13:51] <PotatoTrumpet> OneSource
Com.
 
L1011[16:13:54] <PotatoTrumpet>
POSS
 
L1012[16:14:00] <PotatoTrumpet> Piece of
stinky shit
 
L1013[16:14:14] <Altenius> Google and all
social media
 
L1014[16:14:34] <nxsupert_> Google ,
Facebook and Twitter are all good people :P
 
L1015[16:14:36] <CompanionCube> bbbut
google's search engine
 
L1016[16:14:46] <CompanionCube>
nxsupert_, Facebook is more eh than Google imho
 
L1017[16:14:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Google
also knows everyhing about you
 
L1018[16:14:51] <CompanionCube> Twitter
idk about
 
L1019[16:14:57] <Altenius> How is
facebook good?
 
L1020[16:15:16] <CompanionCube> Can we
keep the 'search engine' part of google but dump the
tracking bit
 
L1021[16:15:20] <nxsupert_> It connects
people.
 
L1022[16:15:28] <Izaya> CompanionCube,
it's called DuckDuckGo
 
L1023[16:15:37] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
yeah but different search engine ofc
 
L1024[16:15:43] <nxsupert_> Look at what
it is doing for the Nepal crisis.
 
L1025[16:16:32] <nxsupert_> Ok. Can we
include public orginisations?
 
L1026[16:16:50] <CompanionCube>
nxsupert_, same goes for any social network. It's not like
google where the software actually *matters*
 
L1027[16:18:00] <nxsupert_> I guess. But
I'd rather keep Facebook and Twitter.
 
L1028[16:18:19] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Twitter
maybe, Facebook meh
 
L1029[16:18:37] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Google is
both terrible and amazing
 
L1031[16:18:42] <MichiBot> Izaya:
Computer room tour | length 
2m 33s | Likes:
0 Dislikes: 
0 View: 
1 | by ShadowKat Studios
 
L1032[16:19:00] <nxsupert_> Google has
yet to do something that I would consider evil.
 
L1033[16:19:17] <nxsupert_> The same can
not be said for EA and Microsoft.
 
L1034[16:20:01] <Altenius> What has
Microsoft done?
 
L1035[16:20:06] <Izaya> Windows
 
L1036[16:20:15] <nxsupert_> It tried to
kill linux a few years ago.
 
L1037[16:20:20] <PotatoTrumpet>
omgomgomgomg
 
L1038[16:20:30] <Altenius> Actually, I
take that back.
 
L1039[16:20:31] ***
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L1040[16:20:31] <Negi> Google, EA and
HTC.
 
L1041[16:20:40] <Negi> (And
Microsoft)
 
L1042[16:20:41] <nxsupert_> Can we
include NSA?
 
L1043[16:20:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> And
TSA
 
L1044[16:20:59] <Altenius> How about when
they said they'd lose support for OpenGL which basicly forced
a monopoly on DirectX
 
L1045[16:21:12] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Fuck
microshit
 
L1046[16:21:13] <PotatoTrumpet>
spaceengineers
 
L1047[16:21:23] <Negi> Can we broaden the
range from "companies" to "entities" ?
 
L1048[16:21:24] <PotatoTrumpet> is open
source?!?!?!
 
L1049[16:21:28] <CompanionCube> Can we
include her Majesty's Government
 
L1050[16:21:29] <PotatoTrumpet>
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
L1051[16:21:30] *
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L1053[16:21:42] <CompanionCube>
PotatoTrumpet, 'open source' nope
 
L1054[16:21:43] <Negi> And the Government
of the Baguette ?
 
L1055[16:21:46] <Altenius> yes
 
L1056[16:21:51] <CompanionCube> more like
'viewable code'
 
L1057[16:22:04] <nxsupert_>
Majesty's Government? UK?
 
L1058[16:22:14] <Izaya> CompanionCube, so
like TE?
 
L1059[16:22:14] <CompanionCube>
nxsupert_, yes
 
L1060[16:22:26] <nxsupert_> Reform. Yes.
Die. No.
 
L1061[16:22:33] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
sorta
 
L1062[16:22:44] <Izaya> Oh yeah you guys
got the conservatives, ha ha ah heh
 
L1063[16:22:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Izaya: that
sure is dark
 
L1064[16:22:46] *
Izaya cries 
L1065[16:22:47] <CompanionCube> you can
use the code but the license is too restrictive for it to be
'open source' imho
 
L1066[16:22:53] <Izaya> SuPeRMiNoR2, no
lights on
 
L1067[16:22:58] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Ik
 
L1068[16:23:03] <Izaya> probably should
have done that
 
L1069[16:23:06] *
Lizzy wants to burn mr cameron at the steak 
L1070[16:23:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Normally
you turn on lights when you record XD
 
L1071[16:23:24] <PotatoTrumpet> I mean
the source is open to the public
 
L1072[16:23:32] <Izaya> but lights hurt
my eyes
 
L1073[16:23:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Lizzy: are
you a cannibal now?
 
L1074[16:23:34] <PotatoTrumpet> gah
 
L1075[16:23:36] *
Negi wants to burn France's governm-people. 
L1076[16:23:38] <PotatoTrumpet> I
can't think
 
L1077[16:23:43] <nxsupert_> Companies you
do not want to die?
 
L1078[16:23:44] <PotatoTrumpet> AP tests
are3 hard
 
L1079[16:23:53] <Negi> nxsupert_:
Valve.
 
L1080[16:24:06] <nxsupert_> Ok
 
L1081[16:24:11] <Altenius> nxsupert_,
Apple, not because of the products though
 
L1082[16:24:15] <CompanionCube> �For too
long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our
citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you
alone',�
 
L1083[16:24:20] <CompanionCube> - David
Cameron 2015
 
L1084[16:24:27] <Lizzy> SuPeRMiNoR2,
well, if minority extremist views are illegal (^) i am
 
L1085[16:24:48] <Negi> Altenius: Why
then?
 
L1086[16:25:20] <Altenius> Negi, they
don't make money from selling your identity
 
L1087[16:25:38] <Negi> I don't know
about that *shrugs*
 
L1088[16:25:42] <nxsupert_> If I could i
would have voted Lib Dem
 
L1089[16:25:44] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
see the overt fascism/authoritarianism in that quote?
 
L1090[16:25:46] <CompanionCube>
nxsupert_, me too
 
L1091[16:25:46] <Negi> But if they
don't that's better than Google.
 
L1092[16:25:53] *
CompanionCube is underage for voting 
L1093[16:26:01] <Negi> Oh, also
Canonical.
 
L1094[16:26:04] <Izaya> CompanionCube,
isn't the point of a law to be left alone if you obey
it?
 
L1095[16:26:08] <Izaya> like
 
L1096[16:26:08] <Izaya> wat
 
L1097[16:26:10] <Negi> Canonical does
alright, I guess.
 
L1098[16:26:27] <CompanionCube> Negi,
Canonical intend to introduce a shitty package manager to
ubuntu
 
L1099[16:26:33] <CompanionCube> they can
promptly go fuck themselves
 
L1100[16:26:53] <Altenius> They helped
spread linux, didn't they? At least to the consumer
market
 
L1101[16:27:14] <nxsupert_> Canonical
made linux so much more popular.
 
L1102[16:27:26] <nxsupert_> I should
probably say GNU/Linux
 
L1103[16:27:41] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
you'll like this one
 
L1104[16:27:51] <Negi> CompanionCube: At
least they dropped Upstart.
 
L1105[16:27:51] <Izaya> I gotta run
 
L1106[16:27:53] <CompanionCube> 'The
package of powers, first proposed in March, would allow courts to
force a person to send their tweets and Facebook posts to the
police for approval.'
 
L1107[16:27:57] <Izaya> it's almost
7:30 AM
 
L1108[16:28:02] <Izaya> wat
 
L1109[16:28:04] <Izaya> waaaat
 
L1110[16:28:08] <Izaya> anyway
 
L1111[16:28:10] <Izaya> bai
 
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L1113[16:28:37] <Negi> For systemd
<3
 
L1114[16:28:47] <kowy> opencomputers irq
?
 
L1115[16:28:50] <kowy> hi
 
L1116[16:28:58] <CompanionCube> kowy,
hi
 
L1117[16:29:02] <Skye|ZZZ> Hello
 
L1118[16:29:06] <CompanionCube> and
it's IRC :3
 
L1119[16:29:33] <Skye|ZZZ> Hello,
kowy!
 
L1120[16:29:44] *
PotatoTrumpet gives Skye|ZZZ coffee 
L1121[16:29:45] <kowy> ))) have a crash,
dont know where to place it, while initialisation minecraft
 
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L1123[16:29:52] *
Altenius wishes he was born in the 50s 
L1124[16:29:54] <kowy> i'll know it!
)
 
L1125[16:29:58] <PotatoTrumpet> kowy,
pastebin
 
L1126[16:30:12] <kowy> internet relay
chat )))
 
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L1128[16:31:35] <kowy> drop it here or on
forum ?
 
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L1131[16:33:14] <PotatoTrumpet>
Assistance is required in the crash isle
 
L1132[16:33:20] <nxsupert_> Weird
question. What are is favourite game?
 
L1133[16:33:29] *
Katie pokes Shangri-la 
L1134[16:33:32] <Katie> crap
 
L1135[16:33:36] <PotatoTrumpet> uhh
 
L1136[16:33:44] *
PotatoTrumpet applauds 
L1137[16:33:49] *
Katie pokes Sangar 
L1138[16:34:06] <Skye|ZZZ> Katie:
wat
 
L1139[16:34:22] <Katie> Skye|ZZZ, wдt
wat...
 
L1140[16:35:22] <Skye|ZZZ> ._.
 
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L1143[16:37:16] <Sangar> Katie,
hmm?
 
L1145[16:38:06] <Sangar> kowy, missing
typesafe config lib, probably forge installer failed to dl it, try
reinstalling forge
 
L1146[16:38:33] <Katie> o_O I forgot that
was a lib..
 
L1147[16:38:33] <Katie> sorry
 
L1148[16:39:25] <Sangar> it's really
weird how it's often only that one the installer fails to
download :/
 
L1149[16:39:31] <Sangar> maybe it's
on a separate server or something?
 
L1150[16:39:34] *
Sangar shrugs 
L1151[16:39:46] <Sangar> anyway,
reinstalling forge usually fixes it
 
L1152[16:42:32] <kowy> it's a
modpack .. davy jones locker
 
L1154[16:45:52] <Sangar> well, depends on
the launcher then, i suppose. still, it's a missing library
that ususally gets downloaded by forge, so it's not really an
issue with oc itself
 
L1155[16:46:07] <Sangar> gamax92, uhh,
okay?
 
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L1159[17:00:26] <Lizzy>
s/steak/stake
 
L1160[17:00:26] <MichiBot> <Lizzy>
*** wants to burn mr cameron at the stake
 
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L1164[17:00:58] <kowy> doesnt seem to
wokr (
 
L1165[17:03:00] <Sandra> I blame
curse.
 
L1166[17:04:26] <rashy> curse is always
to blame
 
L1167[17:04:28] <Lizzy> ^
 
L1168[17:06:25] <Sandra> The pack is on
curse so thats who to blame.
 
L1169[17:07:06] <Katie> This is the most
wtf way of distroing a mod pack I've ever seen
 
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L1171[17:10:51] <Katie> I've lost
all interest in attempting to figure this out.
 
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L1178[17:21:59] <kowy> ahaha changelog of
modpack !
 
L1179[17:22:07] <kowy> Updated -- I THINK
EVERYTHING LOL Open Computers crashing for some people SHOULD be
fixed.
 
L1180[17:22:19] <Lizzy> .-.
 
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L1186[17:48:02] <vifino> ds84182: am
sowwy ;-;
 
L1187[17:48:05] <ds84182> .
 
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L1189[17:48:08] <vifino> pls
 
L1190[17:50:44] <CompanionCube> vifino,
there's an atom update
 
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updoot 
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never actually works 
L1194[17:53:14] <Ekoserin> It is harder
than it looks to delete root at this terminal.
 
L1195[17:53:28] <CompanionCube> sudo rm
-rf / --no-preserve-root
 
L1196[17:53:53] <Ekoserin> Well, that
finally worked.
 
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L1198[17:55:25] <Ekoserin> I heard a
story of how someone just SOMEHOW deleted his entire root
accidentally. Yeah, 'cause the "--no-preserve-root"
key was right next to the "/" key.
 
L1199[17:56:24] <Altenius> Lol, if
that's true someone probably told him to run that
command
 
L1200[17:56:57] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin,
a more accidental way to do it is to do 'rm -rf *' while
your current directory is /
 
L1201[17:57:07] <CompanionCube> no
protection there
 
L1202[17:58:13] <Ekoserin> He typed in
this exact command "sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root
/mnt/hetznerbackup /" Why would he give it the
--no-preserve-root tag!?
 
L1203[17:58:26] <Altenius> Maybe it told
him to?
 
L1204[17:58:32] <CompanionCube> ^
 
L1205[17:58:34] <CompanionCube> looks
like a typo
 
L1206[17:59:00] <Altenius> It says
"use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe." He
probably just saw that part
 
L1207[17:59:13] <CompanionCube> he got
the wrong message
 
L1208[17:59:45] <Kodos> I think in the
last week, I've been asleep more than I've been
awake
 
L1209[17:59:46] <Ekoserin> This guy is
not a computer idiot.
 
L1210[17:59:52] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin,
he may not be
 
L1211[17:59:57] <CompanionCube> but typos
happen
 
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L1213[18:00:26] <Ekoserin> He mistakenly
typed an entire string saying
--destroy-my-computer-I-really-mean-it tag.
 
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L1215[18:00:42] <CompanionCube> nope, he
intentionally did that
 
L1216[18:00:49] <CompanionCube> the typo
was in the original command
 
L1217[18:00:55] <Altenius> Does it also
wipe mounted filesystems?
 
L1218[18:01:04] <CompanionCube> notice
the space between 'hetznerbackup' and '/'
 
L1219[18:01:09] <Ekoserin> I know
that
 
L1220[18:01:10] <Ekoserin> but
 
L1221[18:01:32] <Ekoserin> Why does he
have a --destroy-my-computer-I-really-mean-it tag?
 
L1222[18:01:44] <Ekoserin> There's
no reason to, not that I see.
 
L1223[18:01:55] <Ekoserin> Does
"root" also count roots of mounted devices?
 
L1224[18:02:00] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin,
he may misinterpret the root as the filesystem root
 
L1225[18:02:16] <CompanionCube> it's
sensible that a backup would be located on a different
filesystem
 
L1227[18:03:03] <vifino> CompanionCube:
Nice, what's in the changelog?
 
L1228[18:03:09] <CompanionCube> vifino,
not much
 
L1229[18:03:19] <vifino> ... Now that
sais much.
 
L1230[18:04:03] <CompanionCube> I'll
bring it up ahain
 
L1231[18:04:20] <CompanionCube> Atom now
bundles Autocomplete Plus and the completion providers for HTML,
CSS, Less, Sass, snippets, and the Atom API
 
L1232[18:04:20] <CompanionCube> Opening
editors is now significantly faster than previously releases
 
L1233[18:04:30] <CompanionCube> Running
atom with no arguments from the command line now re-opens the
previously-opened windows. Use atom . to open the current working
directory
 
L1234[18:04:36] <Daiyousei>
<CompanionCube
> Opening
editors is now significantly faster than previously releases
 
L1235[18:04:41] <Daiyousei> something you
will never see in visual studio
 
L1236[18:04:43] <CompanionCube> Bugfixing
about resuming open tabs (not that I want that)
 
L1237[18:04:45] <Ekoserin> I accidentally
my entire emulated Linux install. Is this bad?
 
L1238[18:04:56] <CompanionCube> Fixed an
issue on Linux and Windows 7 where the spell checker would fail to
highlight misspelled words
 
L1239[18:04:58] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin,
depends
 
L1240[18:04:59] <Daiyousei> Ekoserin, nah
its just an innocent bug
 
L1241[18:05:03] <vifino> CompanionCube:
Bundeling AC+ not much?!
 
L1242[18:05:05] <vifino> Pfft.
 
L1243[18:05:09] <vifino> That's
awesome.
 
L1244[18:05:11] <CompanionCube> anything
of value in stead system?
 
L1245[18:05:26] <Daiyousei> inb4 doesnt
get joke
 
L1246[18:05:45] <CompanionCube> vifino, I
have a diabolical plan
 
L1247[18:05:54] <CompanionCube> 1)
compile some ruby to javascript using Opal
 
L1248[18:05:55] <vifino> *dun dun
duuun*
 
L1249[18:06:02] <vifino> Oh god
opal.
 
L1250[18:06:02] <CompanionCube> 2) use
said javascript as an atom package
 
L1251[18:06:29] <vifino> ... That's
very diabolic, CompanionCube.
 
L1252[18:06:34] <Daiyousei> yes
totally
 
L1253[18:06:37] <vifino> Yep.
 
L1254[18:06:41] <Daiyousei> silver 1
level diabolic
 
L1255[18:06:52] <CompanionCube> vifino,
actually, better convert the js to coffeescript
 
L1256[18:06:55] <CompanionCube> for
readability
 
L1257[18:07:25] <vifino> Coffeescript is
meh. I mean, i kinda like it if it wouldn't be indention
based.
 
L1258[18:07:31] <vifino> I like my damn
one liners :V
 
L1259[18:07:48] <Daiyousei> coffeescript
doesnt fix javascript, it only hide parts of its uglyness
 
L1260[18:07:48] <Daiyousei> kek
 
L1261[18:08:03] *
Daiyousei hides behind vifino 
L1262[18:08:07] <vifino> :o
 
L1263[18:08:10] <CompanionCube>
Daiyousei, nothing can truly fix javascript
 
L1264[18:08:13] *
vifino patpats Daiyousei 
L1265[18:08:16] <Daiyousei>
CompanionCube, very true
 
L1266[18:08:21] <Daiyousei> it is forever
damned
 
L1267[18:08:22] <Daiyousei> vifino,
:3
 
L1268[18:08:45] <CompanionCube>
Daiyousei, node.js looks cool....but the javascript. oh god the
javascript.
 
L1269[18:08:50] <vifino> Now to make a
stupid binding hell thingie for my webserver! HELL YUH!
 
L1270[18:09:05] <Daiyousei>
CompanionCube, ya
 
L1271[18:09:40] <CompanionCube> vifino,
why is my plan diabolical
 
L1272[18:09:46] <vifino> It
isn't.
 
L1273[18:09:51] <CompanionCube> is it
because the produced javascript will be the spawn of satan
 
L1274[18:10:00] <vifino> :v
 
L1275[18:10:06] <Daiyousei> it will spawn
satan if you read it out loud
 
L1276[18:10:11] <vifino> lol
 
L1277[18:10:12] <Daiyousei> over a drawn
pentagram on the floor
 
L1278[18:10:17] <vifino> 10/10
 
L1279[18:10:32] *
vifino +1 xXxDaiyouseifairyxXx 
L1280[18:10:33] <CompanionCube>
Daiyousei, javascript + code generation + source-to-source compiler
= WTFCode ahoy.
 
L1281[18:10:39] <Daiyousei> yes
 
L1282[18:10:42] <Daiyousei> vifino,
ha
 
L1283[18:10:51] <vifino> Actually
 
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L1285[18:11:42] *
vifino +1 [FaZe] xXxDaiyouseifairy360N0SC0P3xXx 
L1286[18:11:46] *
vifino runs 
L1287[18:12:00] <Daiyousei> yes
totally
 
L1288[18:12:06] <Daiyousei>
s/FaZe/fnatic/
 
L1289[18:12:06] <MichiBot> <vifino>
*** +1 [fnatic] xXxDaiyouseifairy360N0SC0P3xXx
 
L1290[18:12:07] <CompanionCube> vifino,
do you use a terminal package?
 
L1291[18:12:13] <Daiyousei> aka the cs
version of faze
 
L1292[18:12:19] <vifino> CompanionCube:
yes.
 
L1293[18:12:25] <CompanionCube> vifino,
which?
 
L1294[18:12:38] <vifino> CompanionCube:
term2 or something
 
L1295[18:12:41] <vifino> idk
 
L1296[18:12:44] <CompanionCube> oooh
term2 is nice
 
L1297[18:12:45] *
CompanionCube uses it 
L1298[18:12:59] <vifino> Yeah, I use that
one since ages.
 
L1299[18:13:13] <CompanionCube> I also
have Quantum Shell installed
 
L1300[18:13:16] <vifino> Same.
 
L1301[18:13:25] <CompanionCube> the
reasoning? the atom built-in
 
L1302[18:14:08] <CompanionCube> I wish a
persistently-open command palette existed
 
L1304[18:14:14] <Daiyousei> rofl
 
L1305[18:14:43] <vifino> Erm, wat.
 
L1306[18:15:00] <vifino> THIS IS WHY I
DON'T HASKELL!
 
L1307[18:15:02] <Daiyousei> rofl
 
L1308[18:15:04] *
vifino hides 
L1309[18:15:11] <CompanionCube> vifino,
do you also keep your .atom under VCS?
 
L1310[18:15:18] <vifino> *cough* not that
it wouldn't be the same *coigh*
 
L1311[18:15:28] <vifino> CompanionCube:
Nope.
 
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L1314[18:15:50] <vifino> I shoulda put my
dotfiles up somewhere.
 
L1315[18:16:07] <vifino> Especially my
radare2rc
 
L1316[18:16:13] <gamax92> I take my dog
for a walk in this beautiful park here, can you see? No you
can't see because fucking too dark
 
L1317[18:16:16] <vifino> Can't
remember the commands :/
 
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L1326[18:58:22] <dangranos> lets hope
they'll get more responces from SE devs
 
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L1329[19:10:14] <gamax92> i see that is
very out of data
 
L1330[19:11:57] <gamax92> Altenius:
isWide: character width is 16 pixels, charWidth: character width /
8, wlen: length of string in unicode characters (not bytes),
wtrunc: I don't even this is the weirdest function
 
L1331[19:12:46] <Altenius> gamax92, I
don't think that's what wlen is. len does that
 
L1332[19:12:49] <gamax92> no
 
L1333[19:12:52] <gamax92> wait.
 
L1334[19:13:14] <gamax92> oh, wlen is the
length of the string in screen segments?
 
L1335[19:13:40] <gamax92> yeah
 
L1336[19:14:06] <Altenius> um.
What?
 
L1337[19:14:23] <gamax92> Altenius: just
imagine if you did charWidth through every character in the string
and added it together
 
L1338[19:14:31] <gamax92> is that
 
L1339[19:15:50] <gamax92>
"aニンジン" would be 9 because there are 1 8px character and
4 16px characters,
 
L1340[19:16:15] <gamax92> I'm
terrible at explaining stuff T_T
 
L1341[19:16:25] <Altenius> I see
 
L1342[19:16:34] <Altenius> I knew what
wtrunc did at one time but eh
 
L1343[19:16:46] <TabletCube> vifino:
around?
 
L1344[19:16:51] <gamax92> it confuses me
so, not even going to try explaining that.
 
L1345[19:17:03] <vifino> TabletCube:
Yeah.
 
L1346[19:17:19] <TabletCube> vifino: you
know Electron?
 
L1347[19:17:26] <vifino> Huh?
 
L1348[19:17:43] <TabletCube> the
'core' / framework used by Atom
 
L1349[19:17:50] <vifino> Nope.
 
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L1351[19:18:41] <TabletCube> vifino: a
few days ago they added support for NTLM / Kerberos
authentication
 
L1352[19:18:51] <vifino> Nice.
 
L1353[19:19:41] <TabletCube> I use Atom
at school and AD integration would be nice
 
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L1357[19:24:58] <Altenius> Well, this
will be fun figuring out how to get the width of a character
 
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L1359[19:38:50] <Altenius> What's
the userdata API and is it needed if I don't user
persistence?
 
L1360[19:38:57] <Altenius>
s/user/use
 
L1361[19:38:57] <MichiBot>
<Altenius> What's the usedata API and is it needed if I
don't user persistence?
 
L1363[19:51:00] <^v> Ping reply from ew
0.62s
 
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L1366[19:59:46] <ew> Katie: you
here?
 
L1367[20:06:27] <Katie> ew just got
back
 
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L1372[20:36:23] <Katie> ew, wtf did you
neeeeed
 
L1373[20:47:10] <ew> oh hey
 
L1374[20:47:26] <ew> nevermind, i figured
out that I don't need it
 
L1375[20:47:41] <ew> anyways,
goodnight
 
L1379[21:17:16] <Ekoserin> MichiBot
doesn't like link shorteners.
 
L1380[21:17:40] <gamax92> its good, so
that you don't try to shorten a porn or virus url
 
L1381[21:19:38] <Ekoserin> True, but what
if you have a really long URL to shorten?
 
L1382[21:21:28] <Ekoserin> A Goo.gl link
krpuq3 would flood the chat if I posted it.
 
L1383[21:22:07] <gamax92> ...
 
L1384[21:22:20] <gamax92> then don't
use a fucking long url generator
 
L1385[21:22:39] <Ekoserin> True, but I
have seen really long natural URLs.
 
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L1388[21:24:35] <Katie> fucking
tool.
 
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L1390[21:32:22] <Kodos> Hey, I tried to
ban him once
 
L1391[21:32:36] <Kodos> For breaking
channel rules
 
L1392[22:38:26] <PotatoTrumpet> Kodos,
who
 
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L1394[22:53:16] <KurikAmudnil> hello, I
noticed a problem with my logs and in trying to find the mod that
was causing it (by removing all mods and readding in increments to
find the cause) I have found that opencomputers and NotEnoughItems
no longer work together
 
L1395[22:54:17] <PotatoTrumpet>
KurikAmudnil, what version are you using
 
L1396[22:54:18] <PotatoTrumpet> of
OC
 
L1397[22:54:29] <KurikAmudnil> lattest
oc
 
L1398[22:54:53] <KurikAmudnil> I also
tried downgrading to older versions of oc, and tried the newer beta
version of NEI
 
L1399[22:55:09] <PotatoTrumpet> crash
log?
 
L1400[22:55:18] <KurikAmudnil> Since they
worked together before, I am at a loss as to why they won't
work together now
 
L1401[22:55:29] <KurikAmudnil> a
moment
 
L1403[22:57:48] <PotatoTrumpet> Err
 
L1404[22:57:54] <PotatoTrumpet> Katie,
you on?
 
L1405[22:58:15] <Katie> PotatoTrumpet,
no
 
L1406[22:58:19] <PotatoTrumpet> k
 
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L1408[22:59:08] <PotatoTrumpet> So uh,
Katie, you're smart with OC and its shananagans, so could you
help KurikAmudnil out?
 
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L1410[22:59:49] <Katie> o_o
 
L1411[23:00:01] <Katie> Yeah I've
been looking over the crash report.. lol
 
L1412[23:00:14] <PotatoTrumpet> Maybe you
should be looking at it
 
L1413[23:00:20] *
PotatoTrumpet shows him self out 
L1414[23:00:54] <Katie> ¬_¬
 
L1415[23:02:19] <KurikAmudnil> I was
experiencing an intermitent crash (different crash) that appeared
to be caused by the world tick getting hung up, and likly canidate
was something else.
 
L1416[23:02:53] <KurikAmudnil> but the
last time that happened the other day, I noticed that my minecraft
log was over a gigabyte in size
 
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L1418[23:04:06] <KurikAmudnil> so i was
trying to find out what mod was filling my log file with frequent
error reports with stack trace but no crash
 
L1419[23:06:52] <Katie> Upgrade Java? I
honestly have no idea...
 
L1420[23:07:06] <Katie> current is
1.8u45, you're on u25
 
L1421[23:07:42] <KurikAmudnil> I
installed a java update today and it didn't seem to make any
difference, maybe minecraft didn't connect to the update
 
L1422[23:10:10] <Katie> Also, possibly
toss a forge update in for good measure..
 
L1423[23:12:22] <KurikAmudnil> I tried
multiple versions of forge, just not the most recent one
 
L1424[23:13:03] <KurikAmudnil> I am
thinking I might need to reinstall minecraft
 
L1425[23:13:36] <KurikAmudnil> I tried
setups that had worked before and they were giving me the same
crash
 
L1426[23:14:02] <KurikAmudnil> also note
that this crash occurs when I try to open the inventory
 
L1427[23:15:28] <KurikAmudnil> my testing
showed that NEI was working with the other mods, OC working with
the other mods, but the two not working together anymore
 
L1428[23:16:04] <Katie> Well, I've
avoided 1.7 like the plague... soooooo
 
L1429[23:16:12] <Katie> err
 
L1430[23:16:13] <Katie> 1.8
 
L1431[23:16:20] <Katie> I've avoided
1.8 like the plague lol
 
L1432[23:17:18] <KurikAmudnil> lol
 
L1433[23:23:18] <KurikAmudnil> telling
minecraft to use jre1.8.0_45 instead of its personal java 8 u 25
doesn't even start. doesn't complain, but quits after
downloading twitch
 
L1434[23:23:27] <Katie> o_O
 
L1435[23:23:33] <Katie> 1.7 ftfw!
 
L1436[23:25:20] <KurikAmudnil> I suppose
while I am here I could mention some other things... before I broke
things, NEI was showing that tablets could have the hover upgrades
installed and some other similar oddities
 
L1437[23:27:02] <KurikAmudnil> the teir 2
redstone card was enabled with this last update even though I
don't have any mods that it would apply to (not of the
requsite mods for it have been updated for MC 1.8)
 
L1438[23:35:53] <Katie> o-o
 
L1439[23:35:57] <Katie> No clue..
:/
 
L1440[23:46:13] <KurikAmudnil> so far,
reinstalling minecraft is working
 
L1441[23:46:25] <KurikAmudnil> still no
idea why it was necessary though
 
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