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L3[00:20:19] <PotatoTrumpet> Hmm
L4[00:20:20] <PotatoTrumpet> so
L5[00:20:22] <PotatoTrumpet> while I was
asleep
L6[00:20:34] <PotatoTrumpet> A tornado came
within 2 miles of my house
L7[00:20:38] <PotatoTrumpet> was 1/2 mile
wide
L8[00:20:44] <PotatoTrumpet> and lasted for
~2hours
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L22[01:12:18] <Skye|ZZZ> welp
L23[01:13:33] <Skye|ZZZ> the conservatives
appear to have won this general election.
L24[01:28:23] <Sulljason> So how nuts are
your conservatives compared to ours?
L25[01:28:37] <Sulljason> Ours want people
on food stamps to starve so ya pretty batshit
L26[01:29:05] <Sulljason> Skye|ZZZ: ^
L27[01:31:06] <Sulljason> Cause they're
living the high life on wellfare barely being able to feed their
kids. -.-
L28[01:34:56] <VERSION> < is on
foodstamps
L29[01:36:00] <Skye|ZZZ> well...
L30[01:36:17] <Skye|ZZZ> our conservatives
want to rip up the NHS
L31[01:36:33] <Sulljason> Nation health
care?
L32[01:37:16] <Sulljason> I don't like that
I get cheaper health care cause we have more bargaining
power!
L33[01:37:23] <Skye|ZZZ> national health
service
L34[01:37:25] <Skye|ZZZ> well
L35[01:37:28] <Sulljason> Ya
L36[01:37:41] <Skye|ZZZ> the NHS is free at
the point of use
L37[01:38:01] <Sulljason> said cheaper not
free
L38[01:38:04] <Sulljason> its never free
:3
L39[01:38:37] <Skye|ZZZ> if I broke my arm,
I would get it treated for free.
L40[01:39:04] <Sulljason> Ya, but other
people paying taxes fund it. ofc
L41[01:39:32] <Sulljason> Rlly its a big
ass insurance company minus some the insane greed.
L42[01:40:08] <Sulljason> Therefore cheaper
with the nice added benefit of people not dying from preventable
illness...
L43[01:40:49] <Sulljason> So really they
want to abolish it?
L44[01:41:07] <Sulljason> I'm sorry a lot
of that's probably funded by US insurance wanting move in :/
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L46[01:43:44] <Sulljason> Skye|ZZZ: Just
need the queen to disband parliament ;-)
L47[01:44:29] <Sulljason> Right? Their
power to govern is granted by the crown which is granted by
god?
L48[01:44:50] <Sulljason> Instead of
something insane like the people they're governing
L49[01:48:19] <Sulljason> But really you
can always get pitchforks and stabby stabby so it's always been by
the will of the people despite what the law says.
L50[01:48:54] <SuPeRMiNoR2> PotatoTrumpet:
how did you stay sleeping with a tornado that close
L51[01:48:55] <VERSION> "But really
you can always get pitchforks and stabby stabby"
L52[01:49:04] <VERSION> thats usually when
they bring out the fire hose
L53[01:49:28] <Sulljason> Ya but the
military is made up of the people. So uk lets see who they would
side with :3
L54[01:50:01] <VERSION> the military is
pretty much brainwashed into the "protecting america"
thing
L55[01:50:31] <Sulljason> Eh they will
follow orders to some pretty far extremes, but that's exception to
the rule.
L56[01:50:44] <Sulljason> They are just
people.
L57[01:50:55] <Sulljason> Just like the
government just a big mass of people.
L58[01:51:20] <Skye|ZZZ> well
L59[01:51:39] <Sulljason> Least I'ld like
to think our military wouldn't commit mass genocide of their own
nieghbors and families :l
L60[01:52:15] <Skye|ZZZ> labour (the
relatively sane political party) won in our local area.
L61[01:53:18] <Sulljason> Its still really
weird to me how you guys have the house of royals.
L62[01:53:29] <Skye|ZZZ> uhh
L63[01:53:30] <Sulljason> then again we
have morons and corporations that buy them so ya
L64[01:53:39] <Skye|ZZZ> you mean the house
or lords?
L65[01:53:42] <Sulljason> srry
L66[01:53:47] <SuPeRMiNoR2>
Royallllssss
L67[01:53:50] <Izaya> the upper house,
yes?
L68[01:53:50] <Sulljason> can't remember
everything
L69[01:53:51] <Skye|ZZZ> *of
L70[01:53:56] <Skye|ZZZ> heh
L71[01:54:07] <Izaya> I'm sort of
conflicted over the existance of the upper house.
L72[01:54:23] <Sulljason> Same idea tho.
Fancy rich people getting a say just by being fancy rich
people
L73[01:54:43] <Izaya> On the upside, it
stopped most of the liberal - s/liberal/secretly conservative/ -
attempts at bullshit so far
L74[01:55:17] <Skye|ZZZ> Well...
L75[01:55:54] <Skye|ZZZ> in 2010, liberal
had to form a coalition with the convervatives...
L76[01:56:00] <Sulljason> So why do they
want to take down the NHS is it a lot of "the
freeloaders" and "your taxes will be lower!"?
L77[01:56:16] <Sulljason> I mean think of
all those poor people that you're subsidising not to die!
L78[01:56:20] <Izaya> Urgh, know what
annoys me? When the one person you want to talk to isn't
online
L79[01:57:05] <Sulljason> That was
basically the underlying argument against our national health care
reform...
L80[01:57:14] <Sulljason> The scarier part
is people agreed and defended it...
L81[01:57:19] <Skye|ZZZ> Sulljason: they
will do it sutblely... slowly selling bits of the NHS off...
L82[01:57:37] <Sulljason> :/
L83[01:57:45] <Izaya> Sulljason, US, right?
Why did people dislike the whole healthcare for everyone
thing?
L84[01:57:50] <Sulljason> By letting in
American insurares?
L85[01:58:08] <Sulljason> Izaya: Well ALOT
of money got behind it and uk believe ads.
L87[01:58:20] <Sulljason> Fuck off bot
XD
L88[01:58:37] <Skye|ZZZ> I wish I could
vote...
L89[01:58:39] *
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L90[01:58:43] <Izaya> It's money,
again.
L91[01:58:45] <Sulljason> Izaya: The
crazier ones believed claims like death panels.
L92[01:58:53] <Sulljason> Uk state says if
gma dies!
L93[01:58:58] <Skye|ZZZ> wat are
those?
L94[01:59:25] <Sulljason> Well the argument
goes that since the state would technically be incharge of what
insurance pays for they're be pulling the plug on old people
L95[01:59:36] <Sulljason> Uk like they
TOTALLY don't do now...
L96[02:00:08] <Sulljason> Cause some
psychopath wants a yatch to put in his yatch
L97[02:00:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Its too hot in
here. And my computer is not helping
L98[02:00:43] <Skye|ZZZ> wat
L99[02:01:10] <Sulljason> SuPeRMiNoR2:
"So take of all your clothes."
L100[02:01:19] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I already
did
L101[02:01:21] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Heh
L102[02:01:36] <Sulljason> Idk take a cold
shower for thermal shock?
L103[02:01:36] <SuPeRMiNoR2> But the
humidity is %100
L104[02:01:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Oh, and 2
am
L105[02:01:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I hate humid
days
L106[02:02:06] <Sulljason> Seal your
residense and get a dehumidifier?
L107[02:02:22] <Sulljason> Turn on your AC
cause it technically does that lol
L108[02:02:30] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Yeah so it
does
L109[02:02:31] <Sulljason> Cause your made
of money!
L110[02:02:41] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Totally
L112[02:03:09] <MichiBot> Izaya:
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L113[02:03:18] <Sulljason> I have some
extended family that live on the ocean their dehumidifier collects
SO much water.
L114[02:03:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> There
actually is a dehumidifier running constantly, I just also like
complaining
L115[02:03:27] <Sulljason> Like over a
bucket a day.
L116[02:03:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> And for some
reason I feel way too hot
L117[02:03:50] <Skye|ZZZ> What is an
"air conditioner"?
L118[02:03:52] <Skye|ZZZ> :p
L119[02:03:56] <Sulljason> It's cause you
are ;-D
L120[02:04:08] <Izaya> Skye|ZZZ, in the
UK, you guys call it a heater
L121[02:04:28] <Sulljason> Skye|ZZZ: It
conditions the air then rinses.
L122[02:04:31] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Technically a
dehumidifier IS an air conditioner
L123[02:04:41] <Sulljason> Ya rlly
similar.
L124[02:04:57] <Sulljason> Think they
don't try to cool as much tho.
L125[02:04:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Just dumps
the heat right back in
L126[02:05:15] <Skye|ZZZ> We don't need
them, you can just open a window here!
L127[02:05:15] <Sulljason> Plus some more
cause of electric ineffic :D
L128[02:05:27] <SuPeRMiNoR2> True
L129[02:05:43] <Sulljason> Skye|ZZZ: Well
ya see we're morons and founded cities in deserts with insane heat
and no water...
L130[02:06:04] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Sadly the
window open season here is short
L131[02:06:31] <SuPeRMiNoR2> In the winter
its cold af and in the summer its hot af
L132[02:06:38] <Skye|ZZZ> HEH
L133[02:06:45] <Skye|ZZZ>
hehehhehehehhheheheheh
L134[02:06:49] <SuPeRMiNoR2> In between it
is good if it is not raining for a solid week
L135[02:06:58] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I feel like I
am living in england
L136[02:07:27] <Izaya> it's hot in winter
here
L137[02:07:29] <Sulljason> Like Las Vegas
goes why is our water so expensive? Well we kinda pump it over 400
miles...
L138[02:07:31] <Izaya> welcome to
Australia
L139[02:07:52] <Skye|ZZZ> I live near a
water treatment plant
L140[02:08:04] <Sulljason> Izaya: what is
AUS parielment like?
L141[02:08:08] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Want some
venomous creatures to go with that Izaya?
L142[02:08:39] <Sulljason> Also are they
still banning adults from owning things with violence and
boobs?
L143[02:09:23] <Izaya> Sulljason, at the
moment, bullshit. Liberals (who are conservative, beats me.) are
currently in, which means no pensions for anyone, no welfare or
medicare, but the huge mining companies get no tax because why not!
:D
L144[02:09:27] *
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L145[02:09:58] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Sulljason:
why would anyone in their right mind ban either of those
things
L146[02:10:03] <Sulljason> Cool so don't
tax the rich assholes that can afford it and fuck the poor
people?
L147[02:10:14] <Izaya> Sulljason, yep,
basically.
L148[02:10:15] <Sulljason> Sounds like
business as ussual for conservitives here too.
L149[02:10:35] <Sulljason> SuPeRMiNoR2:
Idk ask Izaya
L150[02:11:08] <Izaya> SuPeRMiNoR2, for
the children!
L151[02:11:19] <Izaya> I'll note that the
children are better at finding it themselves anyway.
L152[02:11:20] <Sulljason> Luckily for us
video games got classified as art so they're protected under
"Freedom of Speach" so we can brandish it like a VERY
VEYR big stick
L153[02:11:36] <Sulljason> esp cause u can
fraise it as opression for the dum dums.
L154[02:11:40] <SuPeRMiNoR2> With a very
very big... Stick
L155[02:11:45] <Skye|ZZZ> our liberals
just got overpowered by our conservatives
L156[02:11:56] *
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L158[02:12:18] <Sulljason> roles?
L159[02:12:29] *
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half
L161[02:12:32] <Sulljason> or is that
role+lol
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L163[02:12:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Rolls
L164[02:12:47] <Sulljason> woops
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L166[02:12:50] <Sulljason> Ya wrong
forme.
L167[02:12:54] <Sulljason> form
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L169[02:13:08] <SuPeRMiNoR2> You are on a
rolle here
L170[02:13:19] <Sulljason> So probably
just a typo in the bots script.
L171[02:13:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Or as Lizzy
would say, a rull
L172[02:13:40] <Sulljason> Is the British
spelling different?
L173[02:13:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I seem to
remember pointing that error out before
L174[02:13:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> No
L175[02:13:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Don't think
so
L176[02:14:04] <Izaya> just got PM'd by
some guy in #archlinux on freenode
L177[02:14:06] <Sulljason> SuPeRMiNoR2:
Are you in the US?
L178[02:14:15] <Skye|School> It's a funny
way of saying roll...
L179[02:14:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I am not in
you...
L180[02:14:28] <Izaya> not the slightest
fucking idea who it is, though apparently it's 'nice to see me
again'
L181[02:14:28] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Or anyone
else
L182[02:14:55] <SuPeRMiNoR2> But yes I am
in 'MERICA
L183[02:15:03] <Sulljason> "in
the" not in us
L184[02:15:15] <Sulljason> But i still
loled
L185[02:15:29] <SuPeRMiNoR2> twas the
point XD
L186[02:15:32] <Sulljason> SuPeRMiNoR2:
Federally mandated libertage.
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L188[02:16:24] <Sulljason> If we arn't
deamed patriotic enough we get sent to guantanimo through court
procedings that arn't part of the public record.
L189[02:16:36] <SuPeRMiNoR2> blame
obama
L190[02:16:58] <Sulljason> Eh he hasn't
closed it but also he didn't open it.
L191[02:17:19] <Sulljason> So not giving
Obama a pass but I'ld blame Bush more.
L192[02:17:21] <SuPeRMiNoR2> get with the
Obama hate, its so hot right now
L193[02:17:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Even Obama
blames obama
L194[02:17:39] <Sulljason> Hate the black
guy very original.
L195[02:17:47] <Sulljason> :3
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L197[02:17:54] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Nah, just
hate the current pres. I think
L198[02:18:05] <Sulljason> Oh man if he
said that reflexitivy it would be ironically great.
L199[02:18:13] <Sulljason> But I doubt he
knows many memes.
L200[02:18:38] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I don't think
guantanimo has enough room for all the people who would be sent
there
L201[02:18:38] <Sulljason> Think Michelle
uses it as a joke? o.0
L202[02:18:40] <Skye|School> any sane
politicion would hide from the internet
L203[02:19:02] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Why can't I
get pregnant?
L204[02:19:09] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Blame
Obama
L205[02:19:50] <Sulljason> Skye|School: I
think it's more his generation than anything. If you want an eye on
the pulse of the people the internet with some rational filtering
is a good place to start.
L206[02:20:06] <Skye|School> so....
L207[02:20:25] <Skye|School> someone needs
to eat a hat, next to someone eating a kilt.
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L210[02:21:52] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Epic rap
battles: "...shiniest of two turds..."
L211[02:22:09] <Sull|Home> Why does IC2
have glorified buckets...
L212[02:22:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Pretty
accurare
L213[02:22:19] <SuPeRMiNoR2>
Advancedbukkit2
L214[02:22:26] <Sull|Home> So i have to
take my coolant in cells and put it in other cells...
L215[02:22:59] <Skye|School> "Paddy
Ashdown is given a hat, refuses to munch. Says will eat it in
public alongside @campbellclaret eating a kilt"
L216[02:23:12] <Sull|Home> The new canner
has two tanks that u can't switch so you gotta take the coolant out
and put it back in them spend power and time having it fill the
right cells
L217[02:23:37] <Sull|Home> Or do what i do
make a hole in the ground and use em like buckets...
L218[02:23:41] <SuPeRMiNoR2> The real
question is why are you still using ic2
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L220[02:23:55] <Sull|Home> Thermal
Foundation isnt full updated
L221[02:23:56] <Skye|School> use
buildcraft!
L222[02:24:00] <Sull|Home> we use
both
L223[02:24:01] <Skye|School> hehehe
L224[02:24:16] <Sull|Home> BC does scratch
that mechanized itch
L225[02:24:37] <Sull|Home> But ya it
really could be better....
L226[02:25:05] <Sull|Home> It's just
infastructure the fun stuff is OC logistics various magic
mods.
L227[02:25:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Mmm
L228[02:25:47] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Oc
L229[02:25:58] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Who likes oc,
cc master race
L230[02:26:07] *
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L232[02:26:09] <Sull|Home> OCs
better!
L233[02:26:28] <Sull|Home> How well does
OC play with CCs peripherals
L234[02:26:39] *
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L235[02:26:43] <Sull|Home> some of the CC
addons are snazzy. Mainly cause OCs addons are so lacking,
L236[02:26:54] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Hmmm, not
sure, have not used cc in literally 2 years
L237[02:27:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Hi
lizzy
L238[02:27:11] <Lizzy> Hi
SuPeRMiNoR2
L239[02:27:16] <SuPeRMiNoR2> How you
rulling today?
L240[02:27:18] <Sull|Home> It's less
popular cause a lot of people are alergic to mods that require you
to think...
L241[02:27:32] <Lizzy> I'm doing good,
you?
L242[02:27:33] <Skye|School> I think you
can use CC compnoents with OC computers
L243[02:27:42] <Sull|Home> Just want the
most broken thing they can get their hands on.
L244[02:27:49] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I am highly
attracted to open source
L245[02:28:09] <Lizzy> OpenPeripherals has
oc compatibility these daya
L246[02:28:14] <Sull|Home> We try to
mitigate auto win stuff and even refuse to do some stuff like
pumping Lava from the nether
L247[02:28:16] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I am doing
good, other then %100 humidity and a small room and a large
computer
L248[02:28:29] <Lizzy> s/a$/s
L249[02:28:38] <Skye|School> I like OC for
the configuabilty
L250[02:28:53] *
Sull|Home likes it for it's depth.
L251[02:28:59] <Sull|Home> Like real RAM
limits gasp :3
L252[02:29:15] <Sull|Home> Also he tries
to limit stuff so you can't blow up a server with one
computer.
L253[02:29:23] <Sull|Home> So we might
actually see it on large servers
L254[02:29:31] <Skye|School> Also, the
custom OS thing...
L255[02:29:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> It needs
heatsinks or something, so you can forget the heatsink and melt
your cpu
L256[02:29:41] <Skye|School> and
EEPROM
L257[02:29:43] <Sull|Home> YAY
MICROCRAFTING
L258[02:29:51] <Sull|Home> Give NEI a work
out -.-
L259[02:30:09] <Lizzy> SuPeRMiNoR2, that
was suggested on the issue tracker at some point
L260[02:30:16] <Sull|Home> Ya.
L261[02:30:33] <Skye|School> Well
L262[02:30:34] <Sull|Home> If someone
wants to add it as an addon cool if it makes them happy.
L263[02:30:37] <Skye|School> I need to go
now...
L264[02:30:38] <Sull|Home> But i dont want
it :l
L265[02:30:46] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Was it a soni
who suggested it?
L266[02:30:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Lol
L267[02:31:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Sounds soni
ish
L268[02:31:11] <Lizzy> Hah, 40ms ping on
single bar of 4G, 100ms on full H+ signal
L269[02:31:16] <Sull|Home> Was like add
component wear fans and a bunch of other crap.
L270[02:31:23] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Wait shit,
you are up
L271[02:31:26] <SuPeRMiNoR2> That
means....
L272[02:31:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Its dammned
late
L273[02:32:15] <Sull|Home> Also my micros
can't talk to eternal components :(
L274[02:32:27] <Sull|Home> and thus my
dirt cheap super computer dreams are dashed!
L275[02:32:36] <Izaya> what the fuck is h+
anyway?
L276[02:32:41] <Lizzy> SuPeRMiNoR2, yes.
Go to sleep
L277[02:32:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Its h
L278[02:32:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2> With a
+
L279[02:32:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Bitch
L280[02:32:59] <Lizzy> Izaya, hspa + I
think
L281[02:33:01] <Sull|Home> SuPeRMiNoR2:
Your drunk go home
L282[02:33:14] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Not drunk at
all
L283[02:33:33] <SuPeRMiNoR2> (Can't
legally drink)
L284[02:33:50] *
Sull|Home can drive a tank and shoot people but cant
drink
L285[02:33:54] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Let's fly
over and have a drink with lizzy then
L286[02:34:07] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Lower
drinking age there
L287[02:34:14] <Izaya> SuPeRMiNoR2, you're
home, go drunk
L288[02:34:21] <Sull|Home> Ya, but our
laws still apply i think o.0
L289[02:34:26] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Ahhhh my mind
is meltinf
L290[02:34:30] <Sull|Home> Then again that
might only be for diplomats
L291[02:34:46] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I thought you
said dolphins at first
L292[02:35:02] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Like wtf kind
of dolphin drinks
L293[02:35:11] <Sull|Home> He's seeing
through the matrix we gotta put him down!
L294[02:35:20] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I am not
drunk, but I may need to sleep
L295[02:35:47] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I could
consult the resident expert on staying up far too late
L296[02:36:04] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Izaya: that
would be you
L297[02:36:08] <Sull|Home> Serious
question when the inventory upgrade says interact with inv does
that include machines?
L298[02:36:13] <Sull|Home> They're
inventories right?
L299[02:36:19] <Izaya> \:D/ I'm an expert
at something
L300[02:36:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Is it a sign
if the purple monkey tells me to sleep?
L301[02:36:45] <Izaya> SuPeRMiNoR2,
fatigue can have similar effects to being drunk. And yes, it
is.
L302[02:36:47] <Sull|Home> SuPeRMiNoR2:
Only if he's in a dishwasher
L303[02:36:58] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Woo
L304[02:37:27] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Sull, maybe
it can, maybe it canr
L305[02:37:44] <Sull|Home> Not looking
forward to the lack of doc :/
L306[02:37:47] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Who
knows
L307[02:37:50] <Sull|Home> On what slot is
waht and stuff
L308[02:37:57] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I suppose it
should work
L309[02:38:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Depends on
the machine?
L310[02:38:28] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Might need to
pick the right sides
L311[02:38:46] <Sull|Home> ~w inventory
controller
L313[02:38:51] <SuPeRMiNoR2> But hey, what
do I know, I am just a robot
L314[02:39:32] *
Sull|Home demands robot cameras so he can drive
robots.
L315[02:39:52] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I for one
welcome our new robot overlords
L316[02:40:03] <Izaya> I need more
caffeine
L317[02:40:08] <Izaya> maybe I'll feed the
cats too
L318[02:40:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I also have a
delivery for I.C. wiener
L319[02:40:11] <Izaya> yeah, that's a good
idea
L320[02:40:17] <Sull|Home> I guess I could
use a geolyzer and pair it with Sangar's rasterizer
L321[02:40:21] *
Izaya grumbles and walks off
L322[02:40:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> More
caffeine? WHY THE FUCK NOT?
L323[02:40:43] *
Sull|Home might just do meth
L324[02:41:06] <Izaya> SuPeRMiNoR2, I
think I'm coming close to the point of caffeine poisioning, so
there's that
L325[02:41:20] <Sull|Home> Its like 1 cup
per kg
L326[02:41:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Maybe not
then
L327[02:41:35] <Sull|Home> and arguably ur
kidneys would filter it faster..
L328[02:41:46] <Sull|Home> So I guess you
could dmg them first.
L329[02:42:03] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Some of the
tfts guys seem to take loads of caffeine without dying so there is
that
L330[02:43:41] <Sull|Home> Woo making tier
3 comp cast
L331[02:43:43] <Sull|Home> case
L332[02:44:06] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Awww
yeah
L333[02:44:14] <Sull|Home> Oh ya you can
really pimp out robots compared to everything else
L334[02:47:48] <Sull|Home> Robots have a
base inv without upgrades right?
L335[02:49:50] <Sull|Home> When in doubt
cram full of tier 2 batteries
L336[02:50:11] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Nerd
L337[02:52:07] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I think I am
going to bed now, before I start pissing people off, night Lizzy
(or morning or whatever)
L338[02:53:10] <Lizzy> night
SuPeRMiNoR2
L339[02:55:51] <Sull|Home> Yay I don't
actually have to use a diamond case to get the power I want out of
the robot
L340[02:56:00] <Sull|Home> Gold tier is
adequate :D
L341[02:56:51] <Sull|Home> Assuming the
robot has a basic inventory :l
L342[02:57:07] <Lizzy> not without
inventory upgrades
L343[02:57:20] <Sull|Home> Doesnt it have
like one row?
L344[02:57:41] <Lizzy> nope, it has none
without the upgrades
L345[02:57:45] <Sull|Home> Also hate how I
have to include a screen and keyboard :/
L346[02:57:54] <Sull|Home> Ik the drones
like that.
L347[02:58:02] <Sull|Home> ~w
api:robot
L349[02:58:41] <Sull|Home> Eh it was just
some gold if im wrong I'll jsut make another
L350[02:59:34] <Sull|Home> Does mean I
have to make another eeprom and install OpenOS again Q.Q (first
world problems)
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L352[03:01:14] <Sull|Home> :( Lizzy's
right
L353[03:01:29] <Sull|Home> even had a cool
name (Terminator)
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L357[03:11:03] *
Izaya hrms
L358[03:11:32] <Izaya> It would require
some knowledge of java to create a bigger EEPROM, wouldn't
it?
L359[03:11:49] <Sull|Home> Theres a config
option
L360[03:12:14] <Izaya> Yeah, but say I
want to make a super-expensive larger EEPROM
L361[03:12:15] <Sull|Home> Also the mods
in scala so have fun...
L362[03:12:30] <Izaya> or maybe a card
with like, tape-style storage
L363[03:12:39] <Sull|Home> Doesn't that
defeat the point of the eeprom limited devices?
L364[03:12:43] <Sull|Home> LIke micros and
drones
L365[03:13:02] <Izaya> Well, you'd still
have to write specific software for them
L366[03:13:15] <Izaya> or maybe I'll just
use a tape drive over the network
L367[03:13:25] <Sull|Home> Ya, but not
having storage and only 4k of ROM is the limiting factor
L368[03:13:34] <Izaya> impliment some
silly networking system
L369[03:13:53] <Sull|Home> I just push
code to my drones cause they have a lot more memory then ROM
L370[03:14:11] <Izaya> Drones are sort of
like printers.
L371[03:14:30] *
Izaya has found a printer with 512MiB RAM and 2MiB CF
storage
L372[03:14:47] <Izaya> Heheh, do I want to
use solarized colours?
L373[03:15:07] <Sull|Home> Drones can only
have tier 1 memory so like 512k is the max I think
L374[03:16:03] <Izaya> in my GPU init
function: ttytab.gpu.setBackground(0x073642)
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L376[03:19:37] <Izaya> ~w gpu
L378[03:20:24] <Izaya> Are OC screens
1-indexed?
L379[03:28:08] <Izaya> hrm, should I
bother to handle line overflows?
L380[03:28:10] <Izaya> nah.
L381[03:28:37] <Kodos|Zzz> Anyone ever
seen Equilibrium
L382[03:29:52] <Lizzy> By that do you mean
a German metal band?
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L384[03:47:15] <Sull|Home> ~w modem
L386[03:49:37] <Izaya> ...fuck
L387[03:49:41] <Izaya> I don't think my
event system works
L388[03:49:44] <Izaya>
fuckfuckfuckfuck
L389[03:51:46] *
Izaya sighs
L390[03:51:56] <Izaya> Minecraft still
crashes my Xorg
L391[03:52:00] <Izaya> fucking
nvidia
L392[03:52:05] <Izaya> maybe I'll switch
to the free drivers
L393[03:52:05] *
Lizzy has forgotten how to do for loops in python
L394[03:53:38] <Lizzy> well, i mean i know
how to do them, just have never done list iteration
L395[03:55:13] *
Izaya sighs
L396[03:55:21] <Izaya> okay, my event
system is borked
L397[03:57:55] ***
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L398[04:02:02] <Izaya> ... fuck
L399[04:02:05] <Izaya> it's totally
screwed
L400[04:02:06] <Izaya> great
L401[04:02:42] <gDroid2002> Lizzy: for x
in list...
L402[04:03:27] <gDroid2002> Alternatively,
for i, v in enumerate(list)
L403[04:04:29] <Lizzy> gDroid2002: i
worked it out in the end
L404[04:04:38] <gDroid2002> Ah, okay
L405[04:09:30] <Izaya> wat
L406[04:09:33] <Izaya> it's erroring over
code
L407[04:09:40] <Izaya> that isn't executed
until later
L408[04:11:15] <Sull|Home> ~w event
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L411[04:19:00] <Lizzy> \o/ mini web server
in my bot now displays the NS account database
L412[04:27:02] ***
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L413[04:27:16] *
Izaya yells something incomprehensible
L414[04:42:13] <Izaya> holy shit
L415[04:42:18] <Izaya> I have a working
tty handler
L416[04:43:22] <Izaya> It even supports \b
:D
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L421[04:55:58] <Izaya> wat
L422[04:55:59] <Izaya> okay
L423[04:56:03] <Izaya> backspaces are
dangerous
L424[04:56:04] <Izaya> o.o
L425[05:07:40] <Lizzy> right, i have
successfully determined that I can do multithreading in
EnderBot3
L426[05:20:24] <Lizzy> currently it just
puts the web server and bot in separate threads but i might work on
getting threading for internet based stuff (though i can always put
that into the modules that actually need it)
L427[05:21:15] <gDroid2002> Ultros uses a
threadpool and decorators for intensive stuff, although it prefers
deferreds where possible
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L430[05:40:28] <Lizzy> g, guessing Ultros
is a bot of yours?
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L433[06:29:14] *
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L436[06:51:32]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L437[06:53:33] <Vexatos>
WooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
L438[06:53:43] <Vexatos> No more written
exam
L439[06:53:45] <Vexatos> \o\
L440[06:53:54] <Vexatos> /o/
L441[06:54:06] <Vexatos> /o\
L442[06:54:08] <Vexatos> \o/
L443[06:57:07] <Lizzy> \o/
L444[07:05:07] <Vexatos> That maths exam
was splendid
L445[07:05:27] <Vexatos> The last maths
exam ever >_>
L446[07:07:10] <Sull|Home> Vexatos: Until
you go to university?
L447[07:07:29] <Vexatos> Sull|Home, no
maths exams at university, at least not THAT level of maths
L448[07:07:39] <Vexatos> I'm going to
study chemistry
L449[07:08:04] <Sull|Home> Doesn't chem
require calc?
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L451[07:11:00] <Vexatos> >_>
L452[07:11:09] <Vexatos> Of course I will
still do maths
L453[07:11:18] <Vexatos> But not this
level of maths
L454[07:22:42] <Izaya> Vexatos,
finals?
L455[07:22:54] <Izaya> wait
L456[07:22:56] <Izaya> never mind
L458[07:23:11] <Vexatos> Finals, just
harder. Much harder
L459[07:23:22] <Izaya> Ouch.
L460[07:23:31] <Vexatos> Maths was easy
though
L461[07:23:59] <Vexatos> Maths is a very
special exam
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L463[07:26:16] <Vexatos> instead of two
exams to choose from (in German it's three), you first have 1
60-minute exam you have to write without calculator or anything
else but your pen, then you have 3 times 2 exams and you can choose
one of the two you get, so in the end you write 4 parts of the
exam
L464[07:27:14] <Vexatos> In total an exam
lasts 5-6 hours
L465[07:30:22] <g> <
@Lizzy> g, guessing Ultros is a bot of
yours?
L467[07:33:55] <Lizzy> hmm, will look at
that in a bit
L468[07:35:10] <g> been working on it a
couple years at least
L469[07:35:23] <g> feel free to use it or
borrow concepts for your own bot :P
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L471[07:46:33] <Vexatos> g: Does it have a
Lua interpreter? :P
L472[07:46:52] <g> Vexatos: I'd love one
but I'm having a hard time finding a portal lua interpreter for
python
L473[07:46:56] <g> portable*
L474[07:47:05] <Vexatos> Mhm
L475[07:47:22] <g> if you find one, I'll
implement it
L477[07:47:51] <g> and maybe lua plugins
too
L478[07:48:37] <Vexatos> Selene
masterrace
L479[07:48:52] <g> selene is a goddess
last I checked
L480[07:48:59] <Vexatos> Yup
L481[07:49:03] <Vexatos> Well
L482[07:49:05] <Vexatos> deity
L483[07:49:10] <Vexatos> not necessarily
goddess
L485[07:49:37] *
Vexatos highfives Kubuxu
L486[07:54:52] ***
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L487[07:55:15] <Sull|Home> Vexatos: Huh
our final exit exam majig was prett y easy.
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L490[07:58:21] <Sangar> o/
L491[07:59:12] <Sull|Home> Sangar:
\o
L492[08:00:03] <Sangar> Vexatos,
congratulations!
L493[08:00:24] <Vexatos> O\ snagar
L495[08:00:39] *
Sull|Home never even got a copy of his diploma :l
L496[08:00:43] <Sangar> oh, yea, saw
that
L497[08:01:39] <Vexatos> I needs a) ideas
b) suggestions c) approval d) once we have a decent idea, balancing
help
L498[08:01:56] <Sull|Home> Why does OC
need power gen?
L499[08:02:01] <Vexatos> Sull|Home, it
doesn't
L500[08:02:08] <Vexatos> But I'd like to
add it
L501[08:02:10] <Vexatos> because why
not
L502[08:02:28] <Vexatos> more of a
gimmick, I guess
L503[08:02:34] <Sull|Home> Ya :/
L504[08:02:35] <Sangar> "because why
not" being the reason for 90% of all mods being created
:P
L505[08:02:39] <Vexatos> ^
L506[08:02:49] <Vexatos> plus it gives
capacitors an actual purpose
L507[08:02:54] <Sull|Home> Ya, but this
really doesn't fit lol
L508[08:03:01] <Vexatos> and the power is
instantly accessible
L509[08:03:02] <Sangar> make it a
multi-block generator :P
L510[08:03:09] <Sull|Home> I guess add on
:/
L511[08:03:11] <Vexatos> Sull|Home, that's
why it's in Computronics >_>
L512[08:03:31] <Sull|Home> Oh my bad
assumed this was the OC issue tracker.
L513[08:03:32] <Vexatos> There really is
no reason to make OC power gen
L514[08:03:46] <Vexatos> but, well, what
if you wanted to use OC without any power mod installed? :P
L515[08:03:55] <Vexatos> (Why would you
ever)
L516[08:04:05] <Sangar> except maaaybe 1.8
if you don't want progressive automation or so, but yeah
L517[08:04:19] <Vexatos> 'tronics is 1.7
>_>
L518[08:04:37] <Sull|Home> A
"fix" for the multiple networks messages would be cool
:/
L519[08:04:37] <Vexatos> I want some kind
of interesting power gen because why not
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L521[08:04:46] <Sull|Home> It's making my
server pretty unusable.
L522[08:04:47] <Vexatos> no very
"good" power gen
L524[08:04:59] <Vexatos> just enough to
keep your basic computer running, add more if you want more
power
L525[08:05:04] <Vexatos> I saw that
already
L526[08:05:30] <Vexatos> Anyways,
balanc
L527[08:05:35] <Vexatos> balancing would
come later
L528[08:05:42] <Vexatos> first I need some
decent idea >_>
L529[08:05:50] <Vexatos> something related
to OC in some way
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L531[08:06:24] <Sangar> Sull|Home, you can
use a custom protocol on top, with sequential packet numbers (which
the stack on the network loot disk probably does, though i can only
assume)
L532[08:07:19] <Sull|Home> I don't wanna
make a deduplication protocol :(
L533[08:07:55] <Vexatos> Sangar, F5
L534[08:07:58] <Vexatos> I updated my
post
L535[08:07:59] <Sangar> then make a
loop-free network :P
L536[08:08:26] <Sangar> hmhmm
L537[08:09:15] <Sull|Home> Fix the server
rack and I wouldn't have to...
L538[08:09:17] <Vexatos> Sangar, if you
wanted a multiblock
L539[08:09:22] <Vexatos> what would it
look like
L540[08:09:26] <Vexatos> and what would it
do
L541[08:09:46] <Vexatos> Multi-blocks
don't really fit into OC in my o(pi)nion
L542[08:09:54] <Vexatos> Sure, your
computer technically is a multiblock
L543[08:10:02] <Vexatos> but you can
technically place parts wherever you want
L544[08:10:13] <Sangar> yeah, screens are
the only "conventional" multi-block
L545[08:10:15] <hitecnologys> Sull|Home:
you could attach a timestamp and, say, a 32-bit random number to
avoid duplicates if packets are send within a second. The
probability of collision is negligibly small.
L546[08:10:16] <Vexatos> Multiblocks with
a specific shape don't fit into OC
L547[08:10:24] <Vexatos> see
Assembler
L548[08:10:30] <Vexatos> that's one
"magic block"
L549[08:10:35] <Vexatos> Mhm
L550[08:10:40] <hitecnologys> Sull|Home:
that way it's stateless so it's quite easy to implement.
L551[08:10:44] <Sull|Home> hitecnologys:
Ik how to make it just don't want to.
L552[08:10:57] <Vexatos> I'd rather have
it all in one block, but have some visualm representation of what's
inside of it on the model, Sangar
L553[08:11:05] <Sangar> Sull|Home, fix
how?
L554[08:11:07] <Vexatos> visual*
L555[08:11:20]
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L557[08:11:29] <Sangar> Vexatos, yeah,
that'd fit better, i guess
L558[08:11:31] <hitecnologys> Sull|Home:
it's less than a few dozen of LOC. Even I'm not that lazy. =P
L559[08:11:33] <Sull|Home> Sangar: Allow
servers to share sides so I don't have to attach cables all over
causeing the dupes.
L560[08:11:35] <Sangar> maybe with
"upgrade slots"?
L561[08:11:40] <LizzyPhone> Meep
L562[08:11:41] <Vexatos> Generally, a
grog-burning generator really fits the OC theme
L563[08:11:49] <hitecnologys> Sangar: I
double that request.
L564[08:11:51] <Sull|Home> hitecnologys: I
wasn't going to tolerate the RNG collisions.
L565[08:12:11] <Sull|Home> hitecnologys:
also the marking eats up some of the already limited payload.
L566[08:12:14] <Sangar> Sull|Home, what's
the use-case where you need that direct connection?
L567[08:12:44] <Vexatos> Sangar: Also
requesting some IMC message "force-enable" that takes an
API item name like "chip2" and forces OC to not hide it
from NEI and the creative tab
L568[08:12:58] <Vexatos> for grog
>_>
L569[08:13:01] <Sangar> :P
L570[08:13:22] <Sangar> you'd still need
to be able to craft it, tho
L571[08:13:23] <Sull|Home> Sangar: Running
a central network all over a large compound with like 6 players
living in it. Like one cable connects EVERYTHING type deal.
L572[08:13:38] <Vexatos> Sangar, that's
just me adding the hardmode recipe
L573[08:13:41] <hitecnologys> Sull|Home:
well, a change of collision is probably comparable to a chance
something goes wrong with OC or server. Anyway, it's your
choice.
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L575[08:13:46] <Sull|Home> Powers all the
computers and everyone can access any component.
L576[08:13:47] <Vexatos> with a config
option to disable that
L577[08:13:52] <Vexatos> in case you have
a custom grog recipe
L578[08:14:04] <Sangar> still, why
multiple servers on the same subnet? and how would allow doing that
"internally" change anything wrt networking? (because it
wouldn't)
L579[08:14:09] <hitecnologys>
s/change/chance/
L580[08:14:09] <MichiBot> <Sangar>
still, why multiple servers on the same subnet? and how would allow
doing that "internally" chance anything wrt networking?
(because it wouldn't)
L581[08:14:14] <Vexatos> Would work rather
well, I guess
L582[08:14:28] <Vexatos> Generally, what
do you think about my idea on the Grogergizer?
L583[08:14:46] <Vexatos> Not sure if I'm
happy with it :/
L584[08:14:59] <Sangar> it's funny. though
having to keep stock of grog could get quite annoying pretty
quickly :X
L585[08:15:23] <Vexatos> Well, keep stock
of x could get quite annoying pretty quickly
L586[08:15:29] <Sull|Home> Sangar: Was
trying to by pass the component call limit by having multiple
servers with diveyed up queues of work do stuff faster. Since
components don't see to have a limit while CPUs do.
L587[08:15:47] <Vexatos> Components
do
L588[08:15:52] <Sangar> Vexatos, make
something matrix-esque, biopods, where you have to insert animals
to generate power using their bodywarmth or whatever the
explanation was :P
L589[08:16:09] <Vexatos> Sangar, has been
done by other mods :/
L590[08:16:13] <Sangar> oh really?
L591[08:16:16] <Vexatos> Well
L592[08:16:21] <Vexatos> kind of
L593[08:16:30] <Vexatos> let me grab the
link+
L594[08:16:42] <Sull|Home> Sangar: do
components have a call limit?
L596[08:17:18] <Sangar> Sull|Home, but the
only difference still would be less cabling, no functional
difference. and no, components don't, the limit is in the machines
as you said.
L597[08:17:24] <hitecnologys> Sangar: I
can also suggest adding some way to run multiple cables in one
block. It gets really annoying to manage huge networks after some
time.
L598[08:17:41] <Sangar> Vexatos, ah
L599[08:17:50] <hitecnologys> Sangar: that
shouldn't be hard, right?
L600[08:17:59] <Vexatos> I haven't seen a
Galvanic Cell in Minecraft yet
L601[08:17:59] <Sull|Home> Sangar: Less
cabling = no duped messages.
L602[08:18:04] <Vexatos> that's why I
thought it'd be quite unique
L603[08:18:16] <Vexatos> plus that you
basically use the block for two different types of power gen
L604[08:18:28] <Sangar> hitecnologys, ehh,
would need something like a bundled cable, i guess, then split /
merge using colored cable
L605[08:18:32] <Sangar> doable i
guess
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L607[08:19:12] <Lizzy> Sangar, i was
thinking about doing an OC bundled cable mod, just cant for the
life of me retain any java knowlege
L608[08:19:12] <Sangar> Vexatos, potato
batteries? gets powered by fresh potatoes? :X
L609[08:19:24] <Vexatos> Sangar: TE4
Tuberous Flux Capacitor
L610[08:19:34] <Sangar> Lizzy, ah, right
you mentioned that some time ago :P
L611[08:19:44] <Sangar> Vexatos,
gesundheit
L612[08:20:03] <Vexatos> Sangar, my idea
would be to have no GUI in the thing at all, and make everything
visible through the model
L613[08:20:16] <Sulljason> Sangar: Also
I'm going to take your rasterizer, a robot and a geolyzer cause
there isn't any robot cameras. :(
L614[08:20:17] <hitecnologys> Sangar:
combined with ability for servers to share a side and ability to
select which "pair" goes where, that'd make networking
*much* better.
L615[08:20:29] <Sangar> Sulljason,
computronics has cameras
L616[08:20:39] <Sulljason> :(
L617[08:20:39] <Lizzy> Sangar, i might try
working on it this weekend
L618[08:20:53] <Vexatos> so you right
click on the top to insert/extract the grog cell, automation can
insert from the top and extract from the bottom
L619[08:20:55] <Sulljason> Aw I was so
impressed with my work around.
L620[08:21:16] <Vexatos> and the sides are
used to insert/extract depleted grog and the other stuff
L621[08:21:27] <Vexatos> in case it's in
that mode
L622[08:21:33] <Vexatos> (It can't do both
at once >_>)
L623[08:21:35] <Sangar> Sulljason, still a
cool workaround ;)
L624[08:21:51] <Sangar> Vexatos, so how
long would a single grog last you?
L625[08:22:02] <Vexatos> Sangar, that's
balancing, it will come later
L626[08:22:12] <Vexatos> OC/t and
t/grog
L627[08:22:20] <Vexatos> both will be
evaluated once the thing is _done_
L628[08:22:22] <Sangar> hitecnologys, how
so? just by saving a few cables?
L629[08:22:30] <Vexatos> I'll measure
stuff like how much a T1 computer needs on average
L630[08:22:36] <Vexatos> running some
random calculation loop
L631[08:22:43] <Vexatos> Benchmarking,
basically
L632[08:22:52] <Sangar> hmhm
L633[08:22:53] <Vexatos> Compare that to a
T2
L634[08:22:57] <Sulljason> Sangar: Ya we
need remote control robots on our space station. Cause uk vacuums
kinda of hurt...
L635[08:24:02] <Sangar> Vexatos, do
computronics' cameras work in drones?
L636[08:24:10] <Vexatos> Sangar, question:
Would you rather want to change its mode with a scrench or have it
auto-detect whether it's in galvanic-cell or burning mode
L637[08:24:12] <Vexatos> Sangar, they
do
L638[08:24:19] <Vexatos> always facing
south, of course
L639[08:24:26] <Vexatos> but distanceUp
and distanceDown works fine
L640[08:24:27] <Sangar> cool, because they
sound more suited for "exploration" :P
L641[08:24:50] <Vexatos>
<Vexatos> Sangar,
question: Would you rather want to change its mode with a scrench
or have it auto-detect whether it's in galvanic-cell or burning
mode
L642[08:24:54] <Sangar> Vexatos, if it's
feasible, automode would be better i think
L643[08:24:57] <Vexatos> Ok
L644[08:25:01] <Sangar> less potential
confusion
L645[08:25:03] <Vexatos> Yup
L646[08:25:36] <Sangar> always fun to
dance around a machine for half an hour, to finally realize you
have to hit it with <insert tool name here> twice instead of
once :X
L647[08:25:54] <hitecnologys> Sangar:
well, if one could merge several dozens of cables all going from
back of the server racks that are set up in one big room into one
cable and then run it under the ocean to another place, that'd make
computer and cable management easier and more efficient cause you
wouldn't need to run around the world checking if everything works
fine and rebooting computers after power failure.
L648[08:25:57] <Vexatos> Sangar, and the
blaze-in-a-box could go into the galvanic-cell slot
L649[08:26:02] <Vexatos> as that's not
used in burning mode
L650[08:26:14] <Vexatos> Instead of
flint&steeling the thing
L651[08:26:17] <hitecnologys> Sangar:
centralization is currently hard and ugly to implement.
L652[08:26:33] <Vexatos> it's increase
OC/t and decrease t/grog
L653[08:26:39] <Vexatos>
proportionally
L654[08:26:45] <Vexatos> it'd*
L655[08:27:10] <Vexatos> The hardest part
about the thing is making the model and the texture >_>
L656[08:27:24] <Vexatos> Oh, and probably
making the grog in the cartridge actually glow and all that GL
madness
L657[08:27:31] *
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L658[08:27:51] <hitecnologys> Sangar:
anyway, I'm probably speaking nonsense. =|
L659[08:28:03] <Sangar> hitecnologys, so
it's really about cabling? just to make sure there's no
misunderstanding there. if i add bundled cables, that could make
sense to add, i guess. allow servers to connect to the same side,
but with a specific color or something.
L660[08:28:21] <Vexatos> Hooray for TESRs
>_>
L661[08:28:39] <Sangar> ISBRH ftw
L662[08:29:29] <Vexatos> Sangar, you're
using TESRs yourself :3
L663[08:29:46] <Sangar> of course i am
:P
L664[08:31:24] <Vexatos> Due to it
requiring grog which needs some decent farms running to
automatically create it
L665[08:31:30] <dangranos> what is going
on?
L666[08:31:31] <Vexatos> It should produce
a decent amount of power
L667[08:31:45] <hitecnologys> Sangar:
yeah, it's only about cabling. I'm sick of need to put cables
around my pretty racks and then place 10 cable lines though walls
to another places if need remote control. I'm running out of walls
and patience to maintain a distributed system. Of course I could
implement SNMP/SSH/whatever clones but bundled cables are needed
anyway. I hope I'm not the only one with such a ridiculous
demands.
L668[08:31:45] <dangranos> multiblock
battery?
L670[08:32:44] <hitecnologys> Sangar:
besides, you could make it a feature of server racks to accept
bundled cables.
L671[08:32:49] <dangranos> we need
long-term issues tag on OC issues
L672[08:34:06] <Sangar> hitecnologys,
honestly hasn't come up a lot, but i'll look into bundled cables
when i can, because i think it makes sense anyway :)
L673[08:34:43] *
dangranos want mutliblock battery, with luqid block of
grog
L674[08:34:47] <hitecnologys> Sangar: that
would be great. Thanks.
L675[08:36:47] <hitecnologys> Sangar: it's
probably since I've been working on the "Internet within
Minecraft" project. It's a long running project and I'm
currently at a stage when one develops protocols so nothing
specific yet to share except some schemes of packet structures and
algorithms.
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L677[08:37:31] <Sangar> hitecnologys,
sounds awesome
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L679[08:38:46] <hitecnologys> Sangar:
well, it does but remember that it's me. It would take hell lots of
time since I always in a state of not having enough. I hope to at
least implement backbone software so that other could go write
clients.
L680[08:39:21] <Sangar> heh
L681[08:39:29] <hitecnologys> Sangar:
there are certain movement towards inter-server communication as
well via some other server that accepts TCP connections and routes
packets between them.
L682[08:39:49] <hitecnologys>
s/movement/movements/
L683[08:39:50] <MichiBot>
<hitecnologys> Sangar: there are certain movements towards
inter-server communication as well via some other server that
accepts TCP connections and routes packets between them.
L684[08:39:55] <Sangar> mhmm
L685[08:41:18] <hitecnologys> Basically, I
already have that server since I have JAMS which is now pretty good
at handling TCP connections.
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L687[08:52:19] <Vexatos> Sangar, how do
you render your robot when it's in an inventory
L688[08:53:29] <Sulljason> Sangar: He just
intimidates the client with his awesomness into rendering it.
L689[08:53:40] <Vexatos> >_>
L690[08:53:43] <Vexatos> <_<
L691[08:53:49] <Sulljason> Vexatos:
*
L692[08:54:07] <Vexatos> I can't find
where it's done <-<
L693[08:54:27] <Sulljason> Ya cause you
can't put awesomeness in code form!
L694[08:55:23] <hitecnologys> Of course
you can.
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Not Sangar's form of awesome it's just to... awesome!
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L701[09:19:38] <Sulljason> \o cya
Sangar
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output of wget to some program for example?
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L712[10:32:28] <Vexatos> %p
L713[10:32:31] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
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L716[10:36:17] <Vexatos> Now I am debating
whether I should release Computronics already
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L743[13:36:18] <LewsTherin> Vexatos,
release?
L744[13:36:23] <LewsTherin> I thought it's
already released.
L745[13:36:36] <Vexatos> Computronics 1.5?
no
L746[13:36:39] <LewsTherin> Oh
L747[13:36:51] <LewsTherin> We have it
installed, but as of yesterday.
L748[13:36:56] <LewsTherin> Not 1.5
L749[13:37:01] <Vexatos> Yea, 1.5 is a
huuuge update
L750[13:37:06] <LewsTherin> What
changed?
L751[13:37:12] <Vexatos> I am not
releasing it and I don't really know why
L753[13:37:28] <Vexatos> that's the 1.5
change log
L754[13:37:41] <Vexatos> OH RIGHT! I
remember
L755[13:37:49] <Vexatos> Okay, there is a
reason I am not releasing yet
L756[13:37:51] <Vexatos> >___>
L757[13:37:55] <Vexatos> How did I forget
that
L758[13:38:16] <Vexatos> LewsTherin, if
you want, you can already get a dev build of 1.5
L759[13:38:26] <Vexatos> with all the
changes you see there
L760[13:38:28] <LewsTherin> Nice.
L761[13:38:44] <LewsTherin> Don't have
time right now, but will look into it.
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L766[14:21:27] <Magik6k> ~w load
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L775[15:18:07] <Daiyousei> QUALITY
OS
L776[15:18:16] <Daiyousei>
/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/sv
L777[15:18:49] <Vexatos> Do you even
localize
L778[15:19:00] <Vexatos> \u0 all the
things
L779[15:26:06] *
CompanionCube wonders how fucked the tories will make the
UK
L780[15:26:10] <CompanionCube> I expect
very, very fucked
L781[15:27:14] <nxsupert> Me too.
L782[15:27:27] <nxsupert> I feel sorry for
Nick.
L783[15:27:38] *
CompanionCube feels like joining the libdems now
L784[15:27:58] <CompanionCube> nxsupert,
did you see May's statement?
L785[15:28:22] <nxsupert> No.
L786[15:29:21] <nxsupert> What has she
said?
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L788[15:36:33] <CompanionCube> uh
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L790[15:37:12] <CompanionCube> "A
conservative government would be giving the security agencies and
law enforcement agencies the powers that they need to ensure
they're keeping up to date as people communicate with
communications data. We were prevented from bringing in that
legislation into the last government because of the coalitions with
the Lib Dems and we are determined to bring that through because we
believe that is necessary to maintain the capabilities of our law
enforceme
L791[15:37:12] <CompanionCube> nt agencies
so they can continue to do the excellent job day in day out of
keeping us safe and secure"
L792[15:37:28] <Skye> We can only hope
that the rest of the house of commons can work together (sadly not
likely) to beat the worst of the tory policies.
L793[15:38:32] <CompanionCube> opinion on
the comment?
L794[15:38:52] *
Skye sobs
L795[15:39:02] <Skye> Time to get the
proxies!
L796[15:39:23] <CompanionCube> Skye, in
the tory manifesto
L797[15:39:36] <CompanionCube> it says
every music video will have an age rating
L798[15:39:40] <Skye> Well
L799[15:39:43] <Skye> glhf
L800[15:39:51] <CompanionCube> Skye,
jurisdiction much
L801[15:40:22] <CompanionCube> how the
fuck will they place age ratings on videos hosted outside of the
country
L802[15:40:40] <Skye> by making the
"great" firewall of the UK
L803[15:41:09] <Lizzy> tunnels!
L804[15:41:25] *
CompanionCube is considering joining the lib dems
L805[15:41:29] <Lizzy> I say we burn
parliament
L806[15:41:37] <Lizzy> I voted
Labour
L807[15:41:48] *
CompanionCube was unable to vote
L808[15:42:04] <Lizzy> i'm also annoyed at
the people who didn't vote for labour because of Ed Milliband
L809[15:42:05] <Skye> I wish I could vote.
I'm too young. D:
L810[15:42:12] <Skye> yeah...
L811[15:42:27] <Skye> If you do some
research, Ed Milliband is a decent person.
L812[15:42:55] <Lizzy> Like seriously?
you'd rather see the rich steal from the poor just because a man
looks weird
L813[15:42:57] *
CompanionCube could join the lib dems for �1/yr if he so
desired
L814[15:43:53] <Skye> CompanionCube, why
couldn't you vote?
L815[15:44:03] <CompanionCube> Skye,
>16
L816[15:44:09] <CompanionCube> 'nuff
said
L817[15:44:27] <Lizzy> :O i am 3 years
older than you
L818[15:45:03] <Skye> Stupid laws...
L819[15:45:17] <Lizzy> stupid
government
L820[15:45:20] <Skye> you can have
children at 16, but you can't vote.
L821[15:45:57] <CompanionCube> Skye,
realistically I'm 17
L822[15:46:01] <CompanionCube> or will be
in 6 days
L824[15:46:10] <MichiBot> Lizzy:
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L825[15:49:56] <Skye> Lizzy, our country
isn't that bad. yet.
L827[15:52:30] <CompanionCube> best
lyrics
L828[15:53:23] <CompanionCube> Skye,
agree?
L829[15:54:23] <Skye> hmm
L830[15:54:24] <Skye> Well
L831[15:54:36] <Skye> they are interesting
lyrics
L832[15:54:37] <Skye> but...
L833[15:55:00] <CompanionCube> brb
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L836[15:57:32] <TabletCube> Skye: better
than exploding parliament
L837[15:57:52] <Skye> yeah...
L838[15:58:11] <Skye> I wish I could do
something...
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L844[16:11:31] <TabletCube> old article
but jesus fuck dat right wing bias
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L859[17:19:46] <NixillUmbreon>
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/typesafe/config/ConfigMergeable
at li.cil.oc.common.Proxy.preInit(Proxy.scala:26)
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L862[17:46:11] <NixillUmbreon> the
weirdest bit is that the error's coming up for someone else even
when the exact same set of mods works just fine for me
L863[17:53:46] <Magik6k> I wonder how
insanely hard it will be to implemant very basic ssh in OC (yes,
real ssh)
L864[17:56:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> hard
L866[17:57:33] <gamax92> oh hey ping long
see no time
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L868[17:57:45] <ping> gamax92, "long
time"
L869[18:02:14] <Magik6k> oh
L870[18:02:16] <Magik6k> god
L871[18:02:44] <Magik6k> I've just saw
some parts of ssh protocol
L872[18:03:37] <Magik6k> and I must say
It's really secure, and not simple at all
L874[18:08:21] <ping> Magik6k, "real
ssh"
L875[18:08:36] <ping> define secure
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L877[18:11:24] <Magik6k> ping, like 'wtf,
what mad person had invented that stuff?!'
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L879[18:12:09] <ping> Magik6k, it might be
easier from a C perspective
L880[18:12:36] <ping> in lua we would just
serialize and already have our data
L881[18:12:46] <ping> in C you actually
have to iterate that shit
L882[18:13:04] <Magik6k> well, network is
painful in lua
L883[18:13:21] <ping> luasocket?
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L885[18:13:49] <ping> eh, its easy when
you have 3 different wrappers for it
L886[18:13:52] <ping> (^v)
L887[18:14:10] <Magik6k> nah, the painful
thing are all the data structures
L888[18:14:33] <Heartstrings> suspect if
you stripped down the spec to the bare minimum, and weren't trying
for an actual binary compatible protocol, it wouldn't be completely
awful
L889[18:14:34] <Magik6k> (imagine
switching byte order)
L890[18:14:58] <Heartstrings> never mind
that actually, probably wouldn't work
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L894[18:18:51] <ping> Heartstrings, well
then it isnt ssh anymore
L895[18:19:22] <Magik6k> well, network
stack seems to work in my os, now I only need service manager and
some telnet/[pseudo]ssh and after having those I'll probably PR a
floppy
L896[18:19:28] <Heartstrings> ping: an
equivalent protocol may be good enough depending on what you
want.
L897[18:20:47] <ping> does OC use time or
instruction for too long without yielding
L898[18:21:06] <Magik6k> idk,
probably
L899[18:21:19] <ping> if it uses
instructions then serialization would be the fastest
L901[18:21:26] <Magik6k> ping, ^
L902[18:25:46] <ping> ah, its real
time
L903[18:26:12] <ping> doesnt matter,
probably still faster
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L912[19:14:24] <Temia> Ooh :o Nice,
Magik!
L913[19:15:04] <Temia> I love the
authenticity in the cpuinfo output. <3 Nice attention to
detail
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L928[21:44:30] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
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L933[22:43:02] <Keridos> is the me export
bus driver bugged? I only can get it once to export into an
inventory, after that it just does not do it anymore
L934[22:43:21] <Keridos> %p
L935[22:43:22] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Keridos 0.26s
L937[22:44:46] <Keridos> lol ping
L938[22:44:55] <ping> upvote
L939[22:44:58] <ping> i must reach front
page
L940[22:45:14] <ping> and yes, this is
actually happening to me now
L941[22:45:28] <ping> its at 43 now
L942[22:45:52] <ping> (43% done with the
first update)
L943[22:45:54] <ping> (jk)
L944[22:46:36] <Keridos> :p
L945[22:48:52] <Keridos> mmh the export
bus driver is bugged apparently
L946[22:49:00]
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L947[22:51:01] <xPucTu4> %p
L948[22:51:02] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
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L949[23:07:34] <Katie> %p
L950[23:07:35] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
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L952[23:07:43] <Katie> -_-
L953[23:08:01] <Katie>
HexChat:
2.10.2 **
OS: Linux 3.17.4-301.fc21.x86_64 x86_64 **
Distro: Fedora release 21 (Twenty One) **
CPU: 4 x
AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 4.00GHz **
RAM: Physical: 3.8GiB, 85.5% free **
Disk: Total:
54.9GiB, 88.5% free **
VGA: VMware SVGA II Adapter **
Sound: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI **
Ethernet: Intel
Corporation 82545EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller **
Uptime:
16m 8s **
L954[23:08:32] <Katie> \o/ a non stupidly
spammy sysinfo from linux hexchat
L956[23:08:33] <MichiBot> EnderBot2:
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L957[23:09:27] <Katie> o_O ping..
lol
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L959[23:11:43] <Katie> %p
L960[23:11:44] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
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L963[23:11:47] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
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L964[23:11:52] <Katie> \o/
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L967[23:14:06] <PotatoTrumpet> %ping
L968[23:14:08] <PotatoTrumpet> %p
L969[23:14:10] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
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L970[23:16:26] <Katie> This is nice, linux
VM windows host, I can game on windows, but still use Linux
whenever I want.
L971[23:16:52] <Katie> I'd go the other
way around, but lots of games laugh at running in VMs..
L972[23:17:02] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L973[23:17:06] <PotatoTrumpet> Crap
L974[23:17:11] <PotatoTrumpet> Sundays
Mothers day
L975[23:17:17] <Katie> Yep
L976[23:17:23] <PotatoTrumpet> and I have
nothing for my mom
L977[23:17:31] <Katie> Me either..
:/
L978[23:17:34] <PotatoTrumpet> I know she
wants to go to Ghenghis Grill
L979[23:17:38] <PotatoTrumpet> Hmm
L980[23:18:11] <gamax92> Katie: you use
win 10 right?
L981[23:18:17] <PotatoTrumpet> win32
L982[23:18:22] <PotatoTrumpet>
lelelelel
L983[23:18:47] <Katie> I have a 10 VM, I
was using it as my daily OS until the 10049 update killed it
L984[23:20:02] <PotatoTrumpet> Uggh
L985[23:20:10] <PotatoTrumpet> My internet
is dropping every 30 seconds
L986[23:20:16] <PotatoTrumpet> for like 10
seconds
L987[23:20:19] <PotatoTrumpet> X_X
L988[23:20:35] <PotatoTrumpet> Damn storms
breaking things
L989[23:21:12] <gamax92> Xorg_Xorg
L990[23:27:42] <Kodos|Zzz> Wish me
luck
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L992[23:27:55] <Kodos> Hopefully I didn't
overload the washing machine
L993[23:27:58] <Kodos> We'll know in an
hour
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L995[23:36:51] <PotatoTrumpet> :P
L996[23:39:21] <Keridos> I should set my
weechat in a linux vm aswell
L997[23:39:44] <Keridos> it kind of works
with cygwin but it still is not comparable to running in a linux
system
L998[23:42:34] <Keridos> if my gw2 would
run better in wine i might use that instead
L999[23:42:43] <Keridos> but playing gw2
with 15 fps is not fun
L1000[23:43:18] <clever> i have recently
discovered that minecraft gets way better FPS under linux
L1001[23:43:43] <clever> it appears to be
an interaction between how MC handles animations (changing
textures) and how the GPU drivers handle texture changes
L1002[23:43:48] <Keridos> well it runs
pretty similar for me in both systemd
L1003[23:43:50] <Keridos> systems
L1004[23:44:02] <Keridos> but I use
proprietary nvidia drivers as well
L1005[23:44:10] <clever> turning
animations off under windows gets good performance, similar to
linux
L1006[23:44:12] <clever> amd video
card
L1007[23:44:17] <Keridos> nouveau does
not properly work with intensive games
L1008[23:44:25] <Keridos> clever which
animations?
L1009[23:44:33] <clever> all i
believe
L1010[23:44:33] <Katie> I play WAY to
many games that die in wine
L1011[23:44:50] <Keridos> yeah katie,
wine does work pretty good for some games
L1012[23:44:57] <clever> i used cofh to
disable animations globaly, water&lava are now perfectly still,
and fps is up massively
L1013[23:45:10] <Katie> -_- Thanks VMWare
I didn't need sound in this VM anyway
L1014[23:45:15] <clever> it looks a bit
odd, but its better then playing with a slide show
L1015[23:45:29] <Keridos> but the
"more complex" games tend to not run properly
L1016[23:45:41] <Keridos> well my pc can
handle minecraft, even heavily modded
L1017[23:45:49] <Katie> Guildwars 2,
Aion, Lineage II..
L1018[23:45:53] <clever> i cant get any
blizzard games under wine, the whole battle.net is broken
L1019[23:46:01] <Keridos> but i get like
15 fps in more complex worlds
L1020[23:46:13] <Keridos> battlenet works
for me on wine staging
L1021[23:46:20] <Keridos> you might need
a 32bit prefix
L1022[23:46:38] <Keridos> but diablo III
crashes in some rare occassions, at least when I last checked
L1023[23:46:38] <clever> i had originaly
compiled wine in 64bit only, but i changed that recently to try and
fix things
L1024[23:46:54] *
Katie minimizes VM, plays whatever game she wants
L1025[23:46:56] <Katie> :P
L1026[23:47:10] <clever> dual-boot
here
L1027[23:47:10] <gamax92> Katie: Do you
have Love2D
L1028[23:47:15] <Keridos> :p my weechat
runs in cygwin, but most keyboard shortcuts are wonky
L1029[23:47:15] <clever> hardest thing
was getting windows to surrender
L1030[23:47:26] <clever> i set the boot
order to prefer the linux hdd, and windows still hijacked
things
L1031[23:47:34] <Keridos> i have dualboot
as well, do not have any problems
L1032[23:47:36] <Katie> gamax92, no
L1033[23:47:45] <clever> Keridos: my
problem turned out to be UEFI
L1034[23:47:46] <gamax92> darnit
L1035[23:47:55] <clever> if the bios
detects UEFI, it ignores the boot priority entirely and boots
that
L1036[23:47:57] <gamax92> I can't show
you flippy.love thats on eos then
L1037[23:48:02] <Keridos> clever: that
must be your boards software, not windows
L1038[23:48:11] <Keridos> i just use
refind to boot linux and windows per uefi
L1039[23:48:22] <clever> Keridos: yeah, i
turned UEFI off in bios and now its purely legacy boot mode
L1040[23:48:34] <Keridos> some mainboards
bios/efi firmware is really broken
L1041[23:48:35] <clever> grub boots
first, and can chain-load windows
L1042[23:48:43] <Katie> yeah, this is a
*fresh* Fedora 21 install
L1043[23:48:55] <Keridos> clever: you
tried refind?
L1044[23:49:10] <clever> Keridos: ?
L1045[23:49:28] <Keridos> i think in the
refind manual it sais, if your board is alway booting windows, copy
refind to the windows bootloader location, put windows bootloader
somewhere else
L1046[23:49:41] <Keridos> clever: that is
an EFI boot manager
L1047[23:50:19] <Keridos> you can easily
boot linux per EFI
L1048[23:50:19] <clever> Keridos:
ah
L1049[23:50:38] <Keridos> windows is a
bit harder since you need to reinstall it I think for EFI
support
L1050[23:50:42] <clever> grub2 can also
use efi
L1051[23:50:54] <clever> but i didnt
really want to mess with it too much and break the whole
system
L1052[23:50:55] <Keridos> but even with
refind you would still have to configure your efi to boot grub2 or
refind
L1053[23:51:09] <Keridos> well i just
used bcdedit on my linux system to fix it
L1054[23:51:10] <clever> if it was a
fresh install, it wouldnt be as much of an issue
L1056[23:52:06] <Keridos> point 9 is what
you probably missed when trying to use grub2
L1057[23:52:30] <Keridos> you actually
need to tell your efi firmware to start using grub2 or refind
L1058[23:52:37] <clever> ah
L1059[23:52:39] <Keridos> it should else
automatically just boot windows
L1060[23:52:49] <clever> i dont think i
enabled efi mode on grub2 though
L1061[23:52:59] <clever> i was expecting
the boot priority to set the boot priority
L1062[23:53:01] <Keridos> ah and that
makes it not work as well :D
L1063[23:53:10] <clever> like it always
did :P
L1064[23:53:17] <Keridos> I think efi is
quite a bit more complicated
L1065[23:53:23] <Keridos> my efi is just
set to boot from this hdd
L1066[23:53:38] <Keridos> but since it
has multiple bootloaders on that hdd it needs to be told which one
to use
L1067[23:53:50] <Keridos> basically you
do not have the MBR bootloader anymore
L1068[23:53:50] <clever> seperate
drives
L1069[23:54:07] <Keridos> yeah but still
you need to copy the bootloader to the EFI partition
L1070[23:54:09] <clever> the SSD MBR is
still a NTLDR legacy shim
L1071[23:54:18] <clever> and the magnetic
drive has a grub2 MBR
L1072[23:54:37] <Keridos> hm i just use
GPT on all my drives
L1073[23:54:39] <clever> grub2 chainloads
the NTLDR shim when i select windows
L1074[23:54:54] <Keridos> yeah, but afaik
you cannot use MBR boot with efi
L1075[23:55:08] <clever> yeah, i had to
turn efi off entirely to give grub control
L1076[23:55:09] <Keridos> you have to
have an EFI partition on that drive and bootloader(s) contained in
it
L1077[23:55:21] <Keridos> it works quite
different from bios boot
L1078[23:55:33] <clever> if it was a
fresh install, i would have messed with it more
L1079[23:55:38] <clever> but i didnt want
to break the existing OS
L1080[23:55:39] <Keridos> ^^
L1081[23:56:11] <Keridos> when you
reinstall you might want to give efi a new shot though :D
L1082[23:56:26] <Keridos> well at least
when you reinstall windows, your install it in efi
L1083[23:56:44] <Keridos> then install
grub2 or refind (i personally like refind more) on the same
drive
L1084[23:56:58] <Keridos> then just
bcdedit to set grub2/refind as the default
L1085[23:57:24] <Keridos> then when you
boot via EFI from your ssd hd it should present grub2/refind
L1086[23:57:36] <Keridos> and i shouldn't
use then that often
L1087[23:58:54] <Keridos> this reminds me
of my starting days with EFI, it was kind of horryfying since it is
no more grub-install /dev/sda and done