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L16[01:11:11] <ShadowKatStudios> So my new project for this weekend is building an analog cable for a PlayStation 2, then replacing the CD drive (did it use CDs?)
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L18[01:14:52] <Temia> It used DVD technology, actually.
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L22[01:21:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh.
L23[01:21:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway, it powers on, and apparently the drive works fine, it goes in and out fine
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L83[04:25:45] <Random> Is there anyone with knowledge of how EEPROM/BIOS in OC actually works?
L84[04:26:03] <Vexatos> Random, basically, it's a 4kB storage
L85[04:26:03] <Ender> I know a bit about them (though not much)
L86[04:26:10] <Vexatos> for a single arbitrary byte array
L87[04:26:27] <Random> And if so... Does anyone know if there's some kind of NVRAM or other persistent storage I could use in it?
L88[04:26:29] <Vexatos> byte array==string
L89[04:26:55] <Random> Like lets say, I want to make BIOS with options
L90[04:27:11] <Vexatos> options?
L91[04:27:11] <Random> Is there any way I could store settings without using HDD or floppy?
L92[04:27:31] <Vexatos> Ah, well, you can, just store them in variables in the first few lines of your BIOS
L93[04:27:33] <Random> Like regular BIOS on PC has, stored in NVRAM
L94[04:27:57] <Random> Not constants, but actually something that user could change
L95[04:27:59] <Vexatos> like "local option1 = true local option2 = false <rest of BIOS>"
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L97[04:29:57] <Random> So it would be stored in BIOS even after reboot?
L98[04:30:03] <Random> And shutdown?
L99[04:30:54] <Random> Like lets say, computer boots up and prompts user which monitor to use. User picks either of two and BIOS "remembers" that choice
L100[04:31:00] <Vexatos> The data stored in a BIOS never changes unless it changes itself
L101[04:31:11] <Vexatos> ah, you can make the BIOS write itself
L102[04:31:41] <Vexatos> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:eeprom
L103[04:31:57] <Random> Second question, those 4KB... are they like code only, or there's a way to run lua-bytecode?
L104[04:32:01] <Vexatos> You do eeprom.get() to get the currently stored data into memory
L105[04:32:22] <Vexatos> then .set() to write the modified BIOS to the eeprom
L106[04:32:42] <Vexatos> Hmm, no idea about that
L107[04:32:46] <Vexatos> Sorry
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L110[04:34:28] <Random> So what actually happens when I flash a EEPROM - i just flash a 4kb string code right? Which means I have to find way to store variables in comments or something like that
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L112[04:37:07] <Vexatos> Random, well, you can have variables like this
L113[04:37:16] <Vexatos> local option1 = false
L114[04:37:19] <Vexatos> local option2 = true
L115[04:37:23] <Vexatos> right in the code
L116[04:39:28] <Vexatos> to change it, get() the string, modify it, for example using string.gsub(code, "option1=(.+)\n", tostring(newvalue))
L117[04:39:34] <Vexatos> and then set() the new string
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L120[04:47:36] <heatseeker0> Random, you can store anything you want in the bios including lua bytecode. But it will only be ran if that option is enable in the config (security risk if ran on servers!).
L121[04:47:47] <heatseeker0> s/enable/enabled
L122[04:47:47] <Kibibyte> <heatseeker0> Random, you can store anything you want in the bios including lua bytecode. But it will only be ran if that option is enabled in the config (security risk if ran on servers!).
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L124[04:51:03] <McJty> Hi
L125[04:51:08] <McJty> Trying to get my mod to work with OC again.
L126[04:51:18] <McJty> Now on a different computer and it seems I can't turn on my computer
L127[04:51:28] <McJty> It says Unrecoverable error
L128[04:51:34] <McJty> no bootable medium found
L129[04:51:43] <McJty> But the computer is full with HD, floppy, lua bios, ...
L130[04:51:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Do you have an OpenOS floppy or have you installed OpenOS?
L131[04:52:13] <McJty> I have used an EEPROM and crafted that together with a book
L132[04:52:23] <McJty> And I put the Lua BIOS item in the left slot
L133[04:52:28] <McJty> Isn't that how it works?
L134[04:52:32] <ShadowKatStudios> But did you install OpenOS or do you have the OpenOS disk?
L135[04:52:44] <McJty> hmm no
L136[04:52:56] <Vexatos> McJty, BIOS != OS
L137[04:53:08] <Vexatos> BIOS is the thing searching for a valid OS
L138[04:53:13] <McJty> Ok, but yesterday it worked when I spawned in the 'unnamed' item.
L139[04:53:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Vexatos: But BIOS has the letters OS in it, it must be even better than an OS! :P
L140[04:53:17] <McJty> Now there is an update so that is fixed
L141[04:53:21] <Vexatos> ShadowKatStudios, it is better
L142[04:53:26] <Vexatos> BIOS can exist without OS
L143[04:53:27] <McJty> ok, seems good now
L144[04:53:30] <Vexatos> but not vice-versa
L145[04:53:47] <ShadowKatStudios> http://shadowkat.tk/network/ Yay, I updated my network's index page
L146[04:54:33] <Vexatos> Pff, my computers are called Fennel, Durian etc o-o
L147[04:54:36] <McJty> Ok
L148[04:54:46] <McJty> But it is still not recognizing my own custom component from my mod
L149[04:54:52] <McJty> Even though it says:
L150[04:54:56] <Vexatos> McJty, can you connect a cable to it
L151[04:55:02] <Vexatos> i.e. does it visually connect?
L152[04:55:04] <McJty> yes
L153[04:55:23] <McJty> [11:46:21] [Client thread/INFO] [OpenComputers]: Successfully injected component logic into class com.mcjty.rftools.blocks.shield.ShieldTileEntity.
L154[04:55:28] <McJty> i.e. it says this in the log too
L155[04:55:34] <McJty> Which seems to indicate it found my block.
L156[04:55:38] <Vexatos> McJty, is the code on github/bitbucket/anywhere?
L157[04:55:39] <McJty> But it is not listed in 'components'
L158[04:55:41] <McJty> yes
L159[04:55:42] <McJty> hold on
L160[04:56:13] <McJty> https://github.com/McJty/RFTools/blob/master/src/main/java/com/mcjty/rftools/blocks/shield/ShieldTileEntity.java
L161[04:56:20] <McJty> That's the block that I'm trying to support
L162[04:57:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Vexatos: Did you get the name Fennel from Pokemon, by chance?
L163[04:57:15] <Vexatos> No...?
L164[04:57:19] <Vexatos> I just love fennel tea
L165[04:57:35] <ShadowKatStudios> TIL there is a type of tea called Fennel
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L167[04:57:56] <Vexatos> AHA
L168[04:57:58] <Vexatos> McJty,
L169[04:57:59] <Vexatos> Object[] isShieldActive(Context context, Arguments args)
L170[04:58:02] <McJty> yes?
L171[04:58:04] <Vexatos> needs to be "public "
L172[04:58:09] <Vexatos> all callbacks need to be
L173[04:58:12] <McJty> whoops
L174[04:58:19] <McJty> Ok, let me fix that
L175[04:58:21] <JjStAr992_Gaming> DO i need to require anything for os.sleep?
L176[04:58:49] <Vexatos> JjStAr992_Gaming, no, if you are using OpenOS, it is native
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L179[05:00:21] <McJty> Vexatos, still not fixed
L180[05:01:18] <Vexatos> McJty, break/replace the cable connecting to the block
L181[05:01:36] <McJty> Well currently it is adjacent to the computer. I thought that was ok too?
L182[05:01:41] <Vexatos> It should be
L183[05:01:44] <Vexatos> but try replacing it
L184[05:01:48] <Vexatos> like, break+replace
L185[05:01:58] <McJty> Nope
L186[05:02:09] <McJty> I broke my block. Placed it one further and put a cable in between
L187[05:02:11] <McJty> It connects
L188[05:02:14] <McJty> Then I turned off/on the computer
L189[05:02:18] <McJty> But it is still not listed in components
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L191[05:02:46] <Kodos> What's this about OC using Nova API?
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L194[05:02:58] <Vexatos> McJty, that's extremely weird
L195[05:03:18] <McJty> The strange thing is that OC seems to recognize my block. It is injecting it.
L196[05:03:23] <McJty> But the computer can't see it
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L198[05:04:16] <McJty> I'm just doing 'components' in the shell. Not in lua. That's ok?
L199[05:04:42] <Vexatos> Yes
L200[05:04:53] <Vexatos> that program should list all the available components
L201[05:05:08] <McJty> So for some reason my tile entity isn't seen as 'available'
L202[05:05:41] <Vexatos> so, your @Callbacks are called "public Object[] whatever(Context context, Arguments args) " now?
L203[05:05:51] <McJty> @Callback
L204[05:05:51] <McJty> @Optional.Method(modid = "OpenComputers")
L205[05:05:51] <McJty> public Object[] isShieldActive(Context context, Arguments args) {
L206[05:05:51] <McJty> return new Object[] { isShieldActive() };
L207[05:05:51] <McJty> }
L208[05:05:58] <McJty> Sorry, wasn't supposed to be that big :-)
L209[05:06:59] <Vexatos> Really weird
L210[05:07:00] <McJty> There isn't anything else I should do in setup or so?
L211[05:07:07] <McJty> i.e. I haven't done any other OC code anywhere in my mod.
L212[05:07:10] <McJty> Just in that TE
L213[05:07:16] <Vexatos> you have a screenshot of a) your setup and b) the contents of your case?
L214[05:07:22] <McJty> ok coming up
L215[05:08:31] <McJty> http://imgur.com/a/jVfVI
L216[05:09:17] <Vexatos> why 3 GPUs
L217[05:09:24] <McJty> No idea. I just filled it :-)
L218[05:09:33] <McJty> Does that break stuff?
L219[05:09:39] <Vexatos> No
L220[05:10:02] <Vexatos> McJty, I'd talk to Sangar about that once he's online
L221[05:10:07] <Vexatos> I can't find the issue
L222[05:10:09] <McJty> ok
L223[05:10:16] <McJty> When does he usually come online?
L224[05:10:55] <Kodos> Vexatos, have you heard anything about Sanger using NOVA API for OC?
L225[05:11:20] <Vexatos> Kodos, yes
L226[05:11:22] <Vexatos> So what?
L227[05:11:27] <Kodos> Just curious.
L228[05:11:30] <Vexatos> McJty, in a few hours
L229[05:11:36] <Vexatos> Kodos, better ask asie about it
L230[05:11:44] <McJty> ok good. I'll lurk here for a while then :-)
L231[05:12:24] <asie> Kodos: it's a possibility
L232[05:12:28] <asie> why?
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L238[05:27:01] <Kodos> Someone mentioned it, was just confirming
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L276[08:15:25] <Wobbo> o/
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L279[08:18:25] <Wobbo> Does anyone know if OCJam already started now? I can't find the start time on the forums ¬_¬
L280[08:18:36] <Kodos> I think it did
L281[08:20:54] <Wobbo> Then I'm going to guess it did and start coding.
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L284[08:21:50] * Vexatos blames Csstform
L285[08:22:41] <Wobbo> Vexatos: He should have put the rules on the forum, but he preferred to keep repeating them here for some reason ¬_¬
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L297[08:59:22] <Wobbo> Well, that should be the KNN lib done
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L311[09:57:12] <Wobbo> Vexatos: If you would have a program for a robot that uses a geolyzer to try to find ores, would you expect it to look both above and under the machine?
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L313[09:57:27] <Vexatos> Wobbo, yes
L314[09:57:52] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Alright, then only down should be an option
L315[09:58:30] <cornelius> man I built a whole robot just for repairing armor that comes out of my mobs spawner but apparently the crafting upgrades can't repair armor
L316[09:58:53] <Wobbo> XD
L317[09:59:01] <cornelius> like you can't put two damaged peices of armor in the crafting part of his inventory and run component.crafting.craft()
L318[09:59:18] <Vexatos> tell sangar
L319[09:59:53] <cornelius> me?
L320[10:00:15] <Wobbo> Yeah, open an issue on the issue tracker
L321[10:00:33] <cornelius> oh you think it's a bug? I assumed it was intended behavior
L322[10:00:40] <cornelius> ok
L323[10:01:18] <Kodos> Why would crafting armor be able to repair it? That's anvil functionality. Unless you want an anvil upgrace
L324[10:01:21] <Kodos> upgrade, even
L325[10:01:30] <Vexatos> it is not
L326[10:01:35] <Vexatos> it's vanilla crafting
L327[10:01:36] <cornelius> crafting tables can combine two peices of damaged armor
L328[10:01:39] <Vexatos> ^
L329[10:01:59] <Wobbo> Hmm… Vexatos: What do you think about "hardness; class" for a file which holds hardnesses and classes?
L330[10:02:13] <Vexatos> Wobbo, fine
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L332[10:02:20] <Vexatos> as long as it's in a sub-dir in /etc
L333[10:02:33] <Vexatos> or wherever the program is
L334[10:02:37] <Wobbo> Vexatos: You give the file to the program, so you can place it anywhere you want
L335[10:03:11] <Wobbo> Vexatos: usage: smine [--depth=num] [--min=num] [-d] file valuables ...
L336[10:03:37] <Wobbo> Hmm… should add a range parameter as well I guess…
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L338[10:06:22] <Pwootage> aaaand good morning
L339[10:06:32] <Wobbo> Good morning Pwootage
L340[10:06:37] <gamax92> Good night
L341[10:07:13] <Wobbo> If you would do smine --depth=g, should the program abort or should it print a warning and use the deafult?
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L344[10:12:57] <Wobbo> Abort seems the most reasonable
L345[10:16:27] <gamax92> Cruor
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L347[10:25:21] <Inari> http://shama.github.io/voxel-drone/ need that for drones in MC ;-;
L348[10:26:21] <gamax92> Inari: woah
L349[10:26:45] <Wobbo> Inari: Doesn't skex do that?
L350[10:26:59] <Inari> uh, no
L351[10:27:13] <Inari> i mean the part with the screen :P
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L354[10:35:05] <Wobbo> Inari: Part with the screen?
L355[10:35:16] <Inari> Wobbo: look around :P
L356[10:35:53] <Wobbo> Inari: No clue what you mean, I just started breaking shit :P
L357[10:36:18] <Inari> http://waa.ai/4ZUA.png <- x.x
L358[10:36:44] <Wobbo> Inari: Ah, then we would first need cameras
L359[10:36:55] <Inari> well the part with the camera and the screen
L360[10:37:18] <Inari> sadly MC appears to not make multi cmaeras easy
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L365[10:46:15] <Wobbo> With my current speed my OCJam project can be done by tonight :P
L366[10:50:25] <Wobbo> Although, now I also get to the robot part :/
L367[10:51:17] <Pwootage> yeah it looks like I might not be able to do much -.- stupid schoolwork
L368[10:51:41] <Temia> OCJam sounds sort of interesting but I've got no time for it
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L382[11:07:00] <kGielo> Anyone here?
L383[11:07:42] <Alissa> Nope.
L384[11:07:44] <Alissa> We all died.
L385[11:07:48] <Alissa> again.
L386[11:07:52] <kGielo> What's a shame. :(
L387[11:09:16] <Temia> Not me
L388[11:09:21] <Temia> Made my fort save.
L389[11:09:22] <kGielo> If I put OC dev verion in my libs folder, what I must type in gradle to get all classes?
L390[11:09:24] <Temia> 'w'
L391[11:09:39] <Temia> but I didn't make my will save against sleep
L392[11:09:48] * Temia flops on Alissa's lap. zzzmoo.
L393[11:10:10] * Alissa snugsnugs Temia :3
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L395[11:12:05] <gamax92> ITS EVERYWHERE
L396[11:12:15] <gamax92> sorry ignore that.
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L399[11:16:12] <LordFokas> Temia: why do you always moo?
L400[11:16:24] <Temia> Because I am a moo. 'o'
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L402[11:17:31] <LordFokas> so do you have hoofs for hands or something? how can you even type?
L403[11:17:46] <Alissa> Text to speech. Duh.
L404[11:17:50] <LordFokas> better question, how can you even? lol
L405[11:17:53] <Temia> No D:
L406[11:17:59] <Temia> Monstergirl.
L407[11:18:08] <Temia> I have hands for hands!
L408[11:18:43] <Vexatos> Alissa, not yet
L409[11:18:45] <Vexatos> Sorry :/
L410[11:19:04] <Vexatos> (totally out of context to confuse everyone MWAHAHAHA)
L411[11:19:26] <gamax92> Vexatos: except for those who know you are working on MaryTTS
L412[11:19:37] <Vexatos> gamax92, I gave up on it for now
L413[11:19:40] <gamax92> :O
L414[11:19:43] <gamax92> how could you
L415[11:19:47] <Vexatos> it's some error very, very deep in the code
L416[11:19:55] <Vexatos> caused by FML's custom class loader
L417[11:20:07] <gamax92> You're an error! .~.
L418[11:20:07] <Vexatos> at least, probably cause by that
L419[11:20:13] <Vexatos> caused*
L420[11:20:15] <Vexatos> most likely
L421[11:20:48] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/feR5B/40b03f6d6b.png data...
L422[11:21:09] <Temia> If I weren't on form my phone and in dire need of focusing on getting my fuzzy butt out the door I'd show you my cute mooness =w=
L423[11:21:41] <Vexatos> your moot cueness?
L424[11:21:52] <gamax92> wot ..
L425[11:21:58] <gamax92> XD Caitlyn
L426[11:22:16] <Vexatos> atad
L427[11:22:39] <Caitlyn> I hate UIs in java
L428[11:22:39] <Temia> D:
L429[11:22:42] <Temia> I
L430[11:22:49] <Temia> I am not moot ;_;
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L433[11:24:24] <Temia> I am moo!
L434[11:24:55] <gamax92> Caitlyn: I love them as long as they actually use the native theme
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L436[11:25:12] <gamax92> so like, a java app on windows looking like a windows application
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L438[11:25:29] <gamax92> and not java's metal theme (ugh)
L439[11:25:49] <MindWorX> What comes standard with a Lua EEPROM?
L440[11:26:07] <MindWorX> And how do I control what file is used to boot?
L441[11:26:08] <gamax92> define standard?
L442[11:26:15] <MindWorX> Well, if I don't install openos
L443[11:26:21] <MindWorX> How would I access components?
L444[11:26:28] <Vexatos> MindWorX, call the startup file init.lua
L445[11:26:36] <Vexatos> that's the one the Lua BIOS searches for
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L447[11:26:50] <MindWorX> Okay, so init.lua is first to get executed before anything else?
L448[11:27:09] <gamax92> the internal kernal is, then the lua bios, then init.lua
L449[11:27:21] <Caitlyn> gamax92, I linked a current screen shot up there... it doesn't look "metal" but what do I know?
L450[11:27:25] <MindWorX> Okay
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L452[11:27:51] <MindWorX> And then how would I access components? Like I normally do? I'm currently assuming OpenOS takes care of wrapping them all, but I may be wrong.
L453[11:28:32] <gamax92> Caitlyn: i can tell that scrollbar is from Java's metal theme and is not a windows scrollbar
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L455[11:28:58] <gamax92> same with the menu bar
L456[11:29:20] <heatseeker0> MindWorX, you can component = require("component") then you can do say modem = component.proxy(component.list("modem")())
L457[11:29:37] <MindWorX> Nifty.
L458[11:29:41] <MindWorX> I'll take a look.
L459[11:29:52] <MindWorX> I want to make a robot that is completely inaccessible from the outside.
L460[11:29:56] <Caitlyn> gamax92, wel... how do I make it not use java's theme?
L461[11:30:01] <heatseeker0> Keep in mind wrappers will not work, e.g. robot.moveUp() doesn't exist
L462[11:30:13] <MindWorX> So I need to wrap robot as well?
L463[11:30:20] <MindWorX> Or use the direct api thing?
L464[11:30:24] <heatseeker0> So you can only use the actual api functions
L465[11:30:28] <MindWorX> Right
L466[11:30:33] <MindWorX> I'll see if I can make it work.
L467[11:30:59] <Caitlyn> ahh
L468[11:31:00] <Caitlyn> SystemLookAndFeel
L469[11:31:02] <heatseeker0> If in doubt, you can always take a peek at how init.lua does it in openos and the default wrappers
L470[11:31:14] <MindWorX> Okay
L471[11:33:14] <Caitlyn> UIManager.setLookAndFeel(UIManager.getSystemLookAndFeelClassName()); thanks gamax92
L472[11:33:15] <MindWorX> Well, time to put together a robot without an OS and see if I can make it work :P
L473[11:33:26] <MindWorX> Luckily I can edit the files straight on my computer for now :P
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L475[11:33:53] <heatseeker0> MindWorX, if you feel brave play with drones :)
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L477[11:34:09] <MindWorX> Hehe, I need the Robots for some challenge thingy I'm putting together.
L478[11:34:34] <Caitlyn> does look a lot better...
L479[11:34:49] <gamax92> Caitlyn: oh yeah ...
L480[11:34:50] <MindWorX> I've made a "sieveobot", "crushobot", "hydrobot" and "infusobot" :P
L481[11:35:09] <Caitlyn> http://puu.sh/feSTr/98185ffda4.png
L482[11:35:14] <gamax92> I ended up having to put a specific detection clause for some system property and force gtk+
L483[11:35:31] <gamax92> because even with that i was getting Metal on a gtk+ environment
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L485[11:36:09] <Caitlyn> ugh my JTable is hosed
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L487[11:37:09] <MindWorX_> .. this connection..
L488[11:37:15] <gamax92> also yes Java UI development is ... just ... bleh
L489[11:37:45] <Caitlyn> Yes...
L490[11:38:06] <MindWorX_> Wooo, Visual Studio + WinForms or WPF :D
L491[11:38:10] <MindWorX_> C# master race!
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L493[11:38:46] <Caitlyn> MindWorX_, sure now lets get that working easily on *nix
L494[11:38:57] <Pwootage> s/Java/imperative or functional programming language/
L495[11:38:57] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> also yes imperative or functional programming language UI development is ... just ... bleh
L496[11:39:12] <gamax92> Pwootage: ... no
L497[11:39:19] <gamax92> I'm talking about Swing
L498[11:39:37] <Pwootage> Swing sucks, WinForms sucks, WPF sucks
L499[11:40:05] <Pwootage> I prefer to write UIs in languages designed for ui (html, for example)
L500[11:40:32] <gamax92> ....
L501[11:40:36] <MindWorX_> Caitlyn, Mono :P
L502[11:40:49] <gamax92> Are you seriously comparing Webpage developement to Application developement
L503[11:41:46] <Caitlyn> MindWorX_, No...
L504[11:41:48] <Caitlyn> just.. no.
L505[11:41:54] <MindWorX_> I've used Mono
L506[11:41:56] <MindWorX_> It's fine. :P
L507[11:41:59] <Pwootage> Yep. Because you can use web development to write application UIs.
L508[11:42:00] <Caitlyn> No....
L509[11:42:00] <MindWorX_> Never for UI though.
L510[11:42:01] <Caitlyn> no...
L511[11:42:09] <MindWorX_> I'm guessing they use some sort of GTK thingy :P
L512[11:42:41] <Pwootage> UI should be defined in one place, and manipulated in another place, all these UI toolkits have the exact same problem: the two are intertwined
L513[11:42:50] <Pwootage> Android and IOS both have nice seperation of concerns
L514[11:42:52] <Pwootage> as does web
L515[11:43:00] <MindWorX_> heatseeker0, Says that require is undefined :P
L516[11:43:04] <Pwootage> (well, if you write GOOD web code :P)
L517[11:43:14] <Vexatos> it is
L518[11:43:19] <Vexatos> require() is not a native function
L519[11:43:27] <MindWorX_> How do I get started then? :P
L520[11:43:33] <MindWorX_> I look at OpenOS of course!
L521[11:43:37] <Vexatos> component is native
L522[11:43:39] <Vexatos> component.proxy(component.list("modem")())
L523[11:43:44] <Vexatos> no require() necessary
L524[11:43:48] <MindWorX_> Ah
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L529[11:51:55] <Pwootage> I'm not actually sure why it's component.list("modem")()... what does component.list return then?
L530[11:54:54] <Caitlyn> it returns pixie dust
L531[11:55:02] * Temia sprinkles ' v '/
L532[11:56:28] <gamax92> Pwootage: an iterator iirc
L533[11:57:49] <Wobbo> MindWorX: place package.lua somewhere on your system and dofile that. Then require is available
L534[11:58:04] <Temia> Oh, so I'm on my computer now.
L535[11:58:44] <gamax92> Temia: such getting fuzzy butt out of door
L536[11:59:04] <Temia> I haven't even had coffee yet, lay off :<
L537[11:59:13] * gamax92 lays on top of Temia
L538[11:59:17] *** gAway2002 is now known as g
L539[12:00:05] <Temia> http://www.cleverpun.com/random/priv/minecraft/2014-11-14_10.47.33.png mu 'w'
L540[12:00:10] <Wobbo> Temia: I haven't had coffee yet either. And it is 18:58 here :P
L541[12:00:42] <gamax92> I've never had coffee yet
L542[12:01:00] <gamax92> Temia: oh is so cuute
L543[12:01:22] <Temia> http://www.cleverpun.com/random/priv/25jwaqp.png 'w'
L544[12:01:36] <gamax92> is no longer cute
L545[12:01:55] <Temia> http://www.cleverpun.com/random/priv/temia_kogitsune.jpg 'w'
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L547[12:02:14] <gamax92> kawaii
L548[12:02:48] <Wobbo> Cleverpun.com: donate => Flash out of date. Why do you need flash to donate? D:
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L550[12:03:46] <Temia> That's not my fault, it's Rikai's >_>
L551[12:03:54] <Temia> I probably wouldn't have even set up a donate widget
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L554[12:04:14] <Temia> http://prerisoft.cleverpun.com/ this is where I do all my stuff now. <.<
L555[12:04:54] <Wobbo> I should still continue work on a website actually…
L556[12:06:12] <Wobbo> Meh, first should finish OCJam
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L560[12:10:48] <Wobbo> Alright, change of plan, smine is now a lib and a bin. Should I know expose all the internals of the lib to everybody?
L561[12:11:49] <heatseeker0> Pwootage, component.list("modem") returns a table, 1st column being the address you need and second the name of the component
L562[12:12:09] <Pwootage> ah, gotcha
L563[12:12:28] <Pwootage> Wobbo: internals probably should be kept internal
L564[12:13:04] <Wobbo> Pwootage: Internals are like: find worthwhile coordinates. That might be useful for others
L565[12:13:23] <Pwootage> yeah alright
L566[12:14:18] <Wobbo> Pwootage: The smine data reader is also available. The lib propably won't even use that function itself, it will just expect the user to read the data :P
L567[12:14:36] <heatseeker0> Did anyone play with the gps libraries ported from CC? Is there any specific placement of the "beacon" computers?
L568[12:14:55] <Wobbo> There is a port of the gps libs? D:
L569[12:15:00] <heatseeker0> Yup
L570[12:15:09] <heatseeker0> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/ds84182-Programs/blob/master/gps/libgps.lua
L571[12:15:29] <Cruor> gamax92: wtf u want
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L573[12:15:50] <MindWorX__> God what is up with my connection ...
L574[12:15:51] <gamax92> Cruor: your soul
L575[12:16:12] <Wobbo> heatseeker0: Didn't even know, thanks!
L576[12:16:18] <Alissa> s/soul/mom/
L577[12:16:18] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> Cruor: your mom
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L579[12:16:31] <heatseeker0> Guess I'll have to play with it and see what positions improve accuracy
L580[12:16:44] <Wobbo> Hmm… now do I make the lib OOP or C like? Decisions :/
L581[12:16:53] * gamax92 will take that sentence entirely out of context.
L582[12:16:55] <heatseeker0> I'd assume standard 120 degrees between the 3 beacons with a large enough radius should improve precision
L583[12:16:56] <gamax92> kthx
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L585[12:19:07] <MindWorX__> Wait a second. Do I even have to work without OpenOS?
L586[12:19:18] <MindWorX__> Isn't it possible to write a program that will never return you to the shell?
L587[12:19:31] <MindWorX__> Maybe even force it to reboot on error rather than exit the program
L588[12:19:44] <Temia> Well, it's sort of a matter of the fact that OpenOS also handles a lot of backend stuff.
L589[12:19:47] <Wobbo> MindWorX__: Yep. set $SHELL to something else than a shell
L590[12:19:53] <Temia> Filesystem initialisation, etc.
L591[12:20:21] <Wobbo> MindWorX__: That also breaks os.execute and shell.execute however
L592[12:20:22] <Temia> Unless you felt like rewriting all of that statically, I mean...
L593[12:20:57] <Temia> So yeah, I'd really recommend you use startup routines available to you in OpenOS D:
L594[12:22:13] <MindWorX__> Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
L595[12:22:30] <Temia> Come to think of it, would an rc.d hook work...
L596[12:22:39] <MindWorX__> So I just preinstall it on a disk and use that when crafting the robot? I don't want a diskdrive on it.
L597[12:22:55] <Wobbo> Temia: rc.d hook to do what?
L598[12:23:01] <Temia> Run your startup code.
L599[12:23:25] <Wobbo> MindWorX__: Yeah, you place a preinstalled hdd into the robot and it will work
L600[12:23:33] <Wobbo> Temia: That is what rc.d is for ;)
L601[12:23:42] <gamax92> MindWorX__: so uhh ... why not just replace the shell?
L602[12:23:42] <Temia> Fair enough!
L603[12:23:52] <Wobbo> Temia: I originally wrote it to mount devfs, but then I never finished devfs :P
L604[12:24:01] * Temia patpats
L605[12:24:07] <MindWorX__> gamax92, Well, I'm new to OpenComputers :P So I'm still trying to figure out how to do this.
L606[12:24:11] * Temia ...grab
L607[12:24:19] <Temia> Please finish writing devfs. (o)_(o)
L608[12:24:57] <Wobbo> Temia: Maybe after OCJam :P
L609[12:25:01] <Temia> Getting that and besh to working functionality would make things so much easier.
L610[12:25:04] <Temia> ...aw.
L611[12:25:09] <MindWorX__> I just need a robot where the user can't use it other than how the actual program is designed to be used.
L612[12:25:20] <cornelius> is it possible to write a different OS?
L613[12:25:22] <Temia> Speaking of which I still need to hunt down that graphics display program someone mentioned a while back.
L614[12:25:22] <Wobbo> Yep. But besh is not maintained.
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L616[12:25:31] * Wobbo is besh maintainer
L617[12:25:33] <Temia> Yeah, besh needs maintaining
L618[12:25:37] * Temia patpats
L619[12:26:18] <Wobbo> I barely get time to use OC. Most of that time in write shit for OpenOS :P
L620[12:26:27] <Alissa> cornelius: Definietly.
L621[12:26:42] <Temia> This is why we need some OC emulators.
L622[12:26:47] <Alissa> ^
L623[12:26:50] <Alissa> and because I can't MC.
L624[12:26:52] <Temia> Or maybe OpenOS remote shells broken out to the web.
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L626[12:27:02] <cornelius> cool. I was just curious if the OS itself was outside the scope of what was user editable
L627[12:27:06] <Temia> being able to ssh into OpenOS would be fun =w=a
L628[12:27:11] <MindWorX_> This damn connection!
L629[12:27:30] <Temia> Oh no, Cornelius, pretty much everything is rewritable except for the native Java/C code
L630[12:27:33] <MindWorX_> Alright, you guys have mentioned different ways of going about preventing user access :P What's the best way to do it?
L631[12:27:35] <cornelius> Temia: that would be awesome because working through the gui is not fun especially on a laggy server
L632[12:27:39] <MindWorX_> I can't allow the program to crash to shell.
L633[12:27:40] * Temia nods
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L637[12:28:37] <Alissa> cornelius: If you want, you can poke around OpenOS and modify what you do/don't want :D
L638[12:28:41] <Temia> Hmm.
L639[12:28:44] <Alissa> That's a great place to start, poking at other's cod.e
L640[12:29:00] <Temia> Might be able to do something by setting up a daemon on the host server, then a client-daemon that can connect to the host daemon
L641[12:29:15] <Wobbo> MindWorX_: If you don't use shell.execute or os.execute, set $SHELL to your program. Then your program resets when it errors
L642[12:29:15] <Temia> At which point ssh can be directed to forwarded shells on the server
L643[12:29:26] <MindWorX_> Nice
L644[12:29:32] <Alissa> Temia: OCSSH? :D
L645[12:29:36] <Temia> Yes. :o
L646[12:29:41] <Alissa> actually that would require a host bridge
L647[12:29:44] <McJty> Seems Sangar is still not online.
L648[12:29:50] <Alissa> because OC can't bind an addr
L649[12:29:58] <MindWorX_> Just a regular "$SHELL = program.lua" in the init.lua file?
L650[12:29:58] <McJty> Anyone else who might have a clue on why my component isn't recognized by a computer:
L651[12:29:59] <Temia> Yeah, host bridge, that's what I meant.
L652[12:30:01] <Temia> foop.
L653[12:30:03] <McJty> https://github.com/McJty/RFTools/blob/master/src/main/java/com/mcjty/rftools/blocks/shield/ShieldTileEntity.java
L654[12:30:24] <Temia> But yeah, that would allow us to forward ssh connections to OC computers.
L655[12:30:37] <Temia> We could probably write it to operate as a generic remote shell daemon on OC's side
L656[12:32:33] <gamax92> MindWorX_: is that valid lua code?
L657[12:32:54] <gamax92> hint, its not.
L658[12:32:59] <MindWorX_> $SHELL = "program.lua" :P
L659[12:33:09] <gamax92> still not
L660[12:33:19] <MindWorX_> Really?
L661[12:33:23] <MindWorX_> Hmm
L662[12:33:31] <gamax92> .l $SHELL = "program.lua"
L663[12:33:32] <^v> gamax92, lua:1: unexpected symbol near '$'
L664[12:33:39] <MindWorX_> Hmph
L665[12:33:43] <gamax92> you want the os.setenv thingy
L666[12:33:48] <gamax92> i think thats what its called
L667[12:33:53] <MindWorX_> Hah
L668[12:34:02] <MindWorX_> I was just about to ask if it was an environment variable
L669[12:34:10] <Wobbo> MindWorX_: os.setenv. $SHELL means the variable SHELL in the environment
L670[12:34:25] <MindWorX_> Alright
L671[12:34:34] <MindWorX_> os.setenv("SHELL", "program.lua")
L672[12:34:35] <Wobbo> MindWorX_: its because the shell should evaluate $SHELL to a value
L673[12:34:38] <Wobbo> MindWorX_: Yep
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L675[12:36:36] <MindWorX_> So, just once and it's stored or do I need to do it on boot up, like in init.lua?
L676[12:38:06] <Wobbo> MindWorX_: On bootup. Use an rc.d script so you can easily enable and disable it
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L678[12:38:14] <MindWorX__> ...
L679[12:38:17] <Wobbo> XD
L680[12:38:18] <MindWorX__> Worked fine all day yesterday
L681[12:38:25] <MindWorX__> I dunno what is up with this :P
L682[12:38:29] <MindWorX__> Only happens to IRC :P
L683[12:38:30] <MindWorX__> Anywho!
L684[12:38:35] <MindWorX__> So, just once and it's stored or do I need to do it on boot up, like in init.lua?
L685[12:38:55] <Wobbo> MindWorX__: Put it in a rc.d script, so you can easily enable and disable it
L686[12:39:17] <MindWorX__> Well, I have access to the files directly on the server. That's how I'm doing this right now. :)
L687[12:39:25] <MindWorX__> So I don't really need to be able to enable or disable
L688[12:39:50] <Wobbo> You need access to the files for enable disable rc.d scripts as well :P
L689[12:40:03] <MindWorX__> Oh
L690[12:40:18] <MindWorX__> Got some documentation on rc.d? I have to admit I don't know what that is.
L691[12:40:43] <Wobbo> Its so you don't have to find a specific line in init.lua
L692[12:41:27] <Wobbo> MindWorX__: Check the example in /etc/rc.d/ there is no documentation
L693[12:41:37] * Wobbo also wrote rc.d
L694[12:42:07] <gamax92> s/rc.d/the entire mod/
L695[12:42:07] <Kibibyte> * Wobbo also wrote the entire mod
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L697[12:42:41] <Wobbo> gamax92: No Sangra wrote the mod, there is lacking documentation there :P
L698[12:42:54] <MindWorX__> Sangra? :P
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L700[12:43:00] <Wobbo> gamax92: When I write something, there is no documentation :P
L701[12:43:01] <MindWorX__> Oh, I quit ...
L702[12:43:10] <Wobbo> MindWorX__: I don't want to ping him
L703[12:43:14] <MindWorX__> Ah
L704[12:43:21] <gamax92> SANGAR
L705[12:43:23] <MindWorX__> I ping him all the time. I'm an ass like that. :P
L706[12:43:25] <gamax92> there i pinged him
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L710[12:47:42] <Wobbo> gamax92: but we already knew you were a dick, so no surprise there :P
L711[12:47:57] <gamax92> :P
L712[12:48:11] <gamax92> I need to get back into playing with OC
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L714[12:49:04] <Pwootage> Huh, interesting, apparently google uses udp now
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L716[12:49:11] <Pwootage> (when connecting to chrome)
L717[12:50:09] <gamax92> The best part of waking up, is _____ in your cup.
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L719[12:52:53] <cornelius> asie what's your drama generator do?
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L725[12:55:52] <Wobbo> Whop! I can find ores using a geolyzer and return the relative coordinates!
L726[12:56:08] <MindWorX_> Nice :D
L727[12:56:11] <gamax92> :D
L728[12:56:20] <gamax92> wait ...
L729[12:56:27] <gamax92> Wobbo: geolyzer can xray?
L730[12:56:53] <Pwootage> it gives you an estimate of value
L731[12:56:55] <Pwootage> iirc
L732[12:57:08] <Sangar> evening o/
L733[12:57:14] <gamax92> Sangar! o/
L734[12:57:17] <Wobbo> gamax92: Geolyzer returns hardness. KNN compares with prototypical blocks. If class is valuable, location gets returned
L735[12:57:26] <Wobbo> Sangar: I can find ores using a geolyzer and return the relative coordinates!
L736[12:57:48] <Sangar> Wobbo, awesome!
L737[12:57:58] <cornelius> sorry asie, Vexatos wha'ts your drama generator do?
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L739[12:58:11] <gamax92> Sangar: I can find ores using a debug card and return the exact coordinates!
L740[12:58:12] <Wobbo> cornelius: It generates drama.
L741[12:58:26] <Sangar> gamax92, brilliant! why didn't Wobbo think of that?!
L742[12:58:51] <Wobbo> Sangar, gamax92: I don't do witchcraft, only science :P
L743[12:58:56] <Sangar> hah
L744[12:59:03] <gamax92> Because geolyzer is scientific
L745[12:59:13] <Vexatos> Sangar! McJty wanted to talk to you
L746[13:00:14] <Wobbo> Now I just need to create a library that can move to relative coordinates…
L747[13:00:35] <Sangar> Vexatos, ah, lemme guess, still not working? :/
L748[13:00:55] <vifino> gamax92: lets fork luajit and add multithreading
L749[13:01:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, https://github.com/McJty/RFTools/blob/master/src/main/java/com/mcjty/rftools/blocks/shield/ShieldTileEntity.java
L750[13:01:23] <Vexatos> That's the class
L751[13:01:27] <Vexatos> the cable visually connects
L752[13:01:30] <gamax92> vifino: lol what ...
L753[13:01:36] <Vexatos> but the "components" program doesn't return the component
L754[13:01:38] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L755[13:01:40] <gamax92> why not just ffi to the threading libraries
L756[13:01:43] <vifino> gamax92: .-.
L757[13:02:17] <Sangar> Vexatos, yeah, i see the methods are public now; tho that shouldn't have made the whole component invisible anyway...
L758[13:02:32] <Sangar> McJty, can you send me a jar where it's not working, so i can have a look in my dev-env?
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L760[13:03:11] <vifino> gamax92: thats boring .-.
L761[13:03:25] <Wobbo> vifino: But easier
L762[13:03:49] <cornelius> Sangar: I found a thing, I'm not sure if it's a bug, but robots with crafting upgrades cannot repair armor by crafting two damaged peices together. Is that expected behavior?
L763[13:03:49] <vifino> Wobbo: Fuck easy, I even piss in hardcore mode! Kidding :P
L764[13:04:32] <vifino> Wobbo: http://i.imgur.com/I92yP.jpg
L765[13:04:47] <Wobbo> :P
L766[13:04:54] <Sangar> cornelius, hrm, not intended, no. will have a look!
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L768[13:06:16] <cornelius> Sangar: thanks, I can make a github issue (i think) but I've never really used github before so I wanted to ask if it was a "feature" first. Should I do that?
L769[13:06:26] <Sangar> sure
L770[13:06:31] <cornelius> ok
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L772[13:09:40] * Vexatos throws https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/865 at Sangar :3
L773[13:10:11] <Sangar> Vexatos, already done, just haven't pushed yet :P
L774[13:10:43] <McJty> Sangar, you mean a dev version of my mod?
L775[13:11:03] <McJty> Sangar, in that case: https://drone.io/github.com/McJty/RFTools/files/build/libs/rftools-2.21.n42-dev.jar
L776[13:11:05] <Sangar> McJty, yep
L777[13:11:10] <Sangar> thanks
L778[13:11:12] <McJty> The problematic block is the Shield Controller
L779[13:11:19] <McJty> that's the one where I added preliminary support
L780[13:11:24] <Sangar> right
L781[13:12:08] <McJty> Ok, have to go but will be back in half an hour
L782[13:12:11] <McJty> Thanks for looking
L783[13:12:30] <Sangar> sure thing! see you later
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L785[13:15:44] <Wobbo> Welp, smine just found ore that doesn't exist
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L787[13:17:28] <Wobbo> Sangar: About 14 blocks down, smine finds lost of ores!
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L789[13:17:48] <Wobbo> Sangar: All non-existant :P
L790[13:19:41] <Sangar> Wobbo, outliers :P
L791[13:20:27] <Wobbo> Sangar: Yep. but this is without any kind of noise preventing measures. It takes one measurment and uses that. Will probably keep it that way as well.
L792[13:21:23] <Wobbo> Sangar: I mean, a depth of 10 blocks up and down still means that it takes 11 blocks per x/z combo, and with a range of 10 as well, well, that is a large chunk of the area
L793[13:22:18] <Sangar> indeed
L794[13:22:36] <Wobbo> 11^3 blocks per scan. Damn
L795[13:22:54] <Wobbo> 1331 blocks per scan for a default. Not bad.
L796[13:23:36] <Wobbo> Now it only needs a better name
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L799[13:27:28] <Sangar> G.R.E.E.D. - Geolyzer ... the rest is up to you :P
L800[13:28:02] <Wobbo> GREED is a great name for something that finds valuables. :P
L801[13:28:09] <Sangar> exactly!
L802[13:28:31] <Wobbo> Running it on 1331 blocks does take a while
L803[13:28:42] <Sangar> can't you make it 1337 somehow?
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L805[13:29:31] <Wobbo> I can, but that would mean that the dimensions change.
L806[13:29:41] <Sangar> just pick a few at random :P
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L808[13:31:40] <Wobbo> Sangar: If I make the depth one more, for example, it scans 11x11x2 blocks more.
L809[13:32:02] <Wobbo> You now want specifically six blocks more, that is pretty hard to do
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L811[13:32:30] <Sangar> analyze the 6 adjacent ones :P
L812[13:32:41] <Sangar> (vs scan)
L813[13:32:57] <Wobbo> And I want to save shit to file, but I can't D: time for --output= I guess
L814[13:33:16] <Sangar> weee, container slot in tablets works \o/
L815[13:33:19] <Wobbo> or --list= to save list to file and -l to list to screen… that could work
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L817[13:34:35] <Wobbo> Sangar: Or vibf as name, Very Interesting Block Finder
L818[13:34:48] <cornelius> hooray! I'm officially a githubber https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/874
L819[13:34:52] <Sangar> Wobbo, vim, very interesting miner :P
L820[13:34:59] <Sangar> cornelius, congratulations ;)
L821[13:35:08] <Wobbo> Sangar: LOL, but no :P
L822[13:35:08] * cornelius bows
L823[13:36:12] <Wobbo> Sangar: Currently thinking of moving the mining into a different lib from the finding. So then I would need two names :P
L824[13:36:36] <Wobbo> Sangar: Yabl: Yet Another Block Locator :P
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L826[13:38:14] <Pwootage> yayat
L827[13:38:18] <Pwootage> yet another yet another thing
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L829[13:38:59] <Sangar> my hive miner for cc was called jam :P just another miner
L830[13:39:10] <Vexatos> Sangar, btw, I have two questions about the Scummy bee
L831[13:39:27] <Sangar> i don't see no shield controller block in rftools :/ that makes testing kinda hard
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L834[13:40:22] <Sangar> Vexatos, ?
L835[13:40:33] <Wobbo> Pwootage: Well, it needs a better name than smine
L836[13:40:46] <Pwootage> I like GREED myself :P
L837[13:40:54] <Vexatos> 1. it currently requires a tropical biome type to work (obviously) and it needs water nearby to work (because tropical islands). should it rather check for short mead nearby? 2. If not and it should stay water, should I make the grog recipe require short mead + caustic drops (the bee product) or a Thick Potion+ caustic drops
L838[13:41:25] <Vexatos> Wobbo, DIG -> diligent intelligent geolyzation
L839[13:41:34] <Pwootage> Geolizer Reads Everything Except Dirt
L840[13:42:00] <Wobbo> These are some good names for the locator, I can use this!
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L842[13:42:12] <Vexatos> So, Sangar, I need your input
L843[13:42:15] <Vexatos> it's your bee, after all
L844[13:42:15] <Vexatos> :P
L845[13:42:34] <Pwootage> Wait like a forestry bee?
L846[13:42:44] <Vexatos> Of course >_>
L847[13:43:01] <Sangar> Vexatos, hmm, what about if either work? but at different efficiency, is that possible?
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L849[13:43:44] <Vexatos> Sangar, it'd require quite a bit of extra code
L850[13:43:51] <Wobbo> DIG: Density-based Intelligent Geolyzer
L851[13:43:58] <Vexatos> Just asking, would it make more sense to have it require water or short mead?
L852[13:44:01] <Vexatos> Wobbo, love it
L853[13:44:02] <Vexatos> +100
L854[13:44:25] <Wobbo> Isn't dig also a default tool?
L855[13:44:34] <Vexatos> it is
L856[13:44:42] <Vexatos> a loot floppy
L857[13:44:54] <Wobbo> Hmm… then it might not be so smart to name it that…
L858[13:45:33] <Vexatos> How about FAL-84?
L859[13:46:26] <Wobbo> FAL-84?
L860[13:46:43] <Vexatos> http://ftb.gamepedia.com/BrainTech_Aerospace_Advanced_Reinforced_Duct_Tape_FAL-84
L861[13:47:19] <Wobbo> LOL, duct tape
L862[13:47:43] <Vexatos> Sangar...?
L863[13:48:50] <Pwootage> ..."Importantly, it is currently the only way to fix the 'Circuitry Burnt Out' problem. '
L864[13:49:06] <Vexatos> how to fix: get new circuitry
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L866[13:49:53] <Pwootage> also maintinence? Srs? Yet another reason I don't particularly like gregtech
L867[13:50:28] <Pwootage> the point of automation is automation, not having to fix it all the time
L868[13:50:45] <Vexatos> Pwootage, "all the time" is about once every few MC weeks
L869[13:51:08] <Vexatos> and "maintenance" is inserting a piece of FAL-84 into the correct slot
L870[13:51:56] <Pwootage> Still
L871[13:52:18] * Vexatos pokes Sangar again
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L873[13:52:45] <Pwootage> and actually that makes it sound like thaumcraft warp - once every 40 RL minutes, jump in a hotspring, else you have to deal with something spawning that takes 15 seconds to kill or an obnoxious potion effect for 0.5-5 minutes
L874[13:52:52] <GunArm> but being gregtech, if you forget to do it, it probably creates a cascade failure of all of your machines which then explode
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L876[13:53:07] <Vexatos> GunArm, no
L877[13:53:13] <Vexatos> it simply will stop doing anything
L878[13:53:18] <GunArm> hehe ah ok
L879[13:53:26] <Vexatos> and you only need maintenance for the large machines
L880[13:53:36] <Vexatos> i.e. blast furnaces, implosion compressors and vacuum freezers
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L883[13:55:33] <Wobbo> IBL: Intelligent Block Location
L884[13:55:57] <McJty> ok back
L885[13:55:58] <Vexatos> IBM: Intelligent Block Mining
L886[13:56:01] <Vexatos> we need IBM in OC
L887[13:56:06] <McJty> Sangar, found anything yet?
L888[13:56:16] <Wobbo> IBM could be the name of the miner then :P
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L890[13:56:44] <Pwootage> ICBM?
L891[13:57:51] <Wobbo> Vexatos: I want to split the mining from the locating, so you can run the locating on a server or other device and combine it with other mining methods except for robots
L892[13:58:05] <Sangar> sorry, phone
L893[13:58:18] <Sangar> Vexatos, what exactly is short mead anyway (and which mod?)
L894[13:58:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, forestry
L895[13:58:34] <Sangar> McJty, i can't find the shield controller block, neither in nei nor in normal creative tab >_>
L896[13:58:34] <Vexatos> some beverage you can get
L897[13:58:41] <Vexatos> makes you drunk (duh)
L898[13:58:48] <Vexatos> and you can place it in world
L899[13:58:50] <McJty> Sangar, um. Do you have other rftools blocks?
L900[13:58:54] <Vexatos> just like water
L901[13:59:03] <Sangar> McJty, yeah, the rest is there, several shield blocks, too
L902[13:59:05] <Sangar> just no controller
L903[13:59:17] <McJty> ah oops
L904[13:59:18] <McJty> Sorry
L905[13:59:21] <McJty> It is Shield Projector
L906[13:59:22] <Sangar> Vexatos, i see. well. i guess it'd make sense then.
L907[13:59:25] * McJty forgot his own mod...
L908[13:59:26] <Sangar> ahhh :D
L909[13:59:45] <Vexatos> Sangar, what would make sense?
L910[13:59:48] <McJty> Been adding too many 'controller' blocks lately :-)
L911[13:59:53] <Vexatos> I asked 4 questions at once >_>
L912[14:00:06] <Sangar> Vexatos, using the mead :P
L913[14:00:16] <Vexatos> For crafting or for the bee?
L914[14:00:20] <Sangar> for the bee
L915[14:00:38] <Vexatos> Because currently, you use a bottle of short mead + caustic drops to get grog
L916[14:00:50] <Vexatos> and the bee operates in a tropical biome type with water nearby
L917[14:01:13] <Temia> I still can't believe you guys made a Scummy Bee. That's just too damn cute.
L918[14:01:24] <Vexatos> the option was to replace the water with short mead, but I don't think it makes much sense :/
L919[14:01:25] <Sangar> McJty, uhhh... well. that's. fascinating. it's working for me >_>
L920[14:01:35] <Vexatos> Temia, it's sooo old
L921[14:01:36] <McJty> hmm. you see the component.
L922[14:01:42] <McJty> Then something must be wrong in my dev env.
L923[14:01:42] <Sangar> Vexatos, why not?
L924[14:01:46] <Ender> ~w shutdown
L925[14:01:46] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:piston
L926[14:01:49] <McJty> Sangar, can you check if my build.gradle is ok?
L927[14:01:49] <Ender> ¬_¬
L928[14:01:57] <Sangar> McJty, sure, one sec
L929[14:02:01] <Negi> The search feature is...
L930[14:02:06] <McJty> https://github.com/McJty/RFTools/blob/master/build.gradle
L931[14:02:10] <Vexatos> Temia, exists since Computronics 1.3.3
L932[14:02:18] <Temia> I know
L933[14:02:23] <Ender> ~w computer
L934[14:02:23] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:computer
L935[14:02:25] <Temia> I'm just saying it's still cute and ridiculous :D
L936[14:02:30] <Sangar> McJty, looks fine to me
L937[14:02:34] <McJty> hmm...
L938[14:02:38] <Negi> A Scummy Bee ?
L939[14:02:47] <Sangar> have you tried if it works in normal mc for you? i.e. not in dev env?
L940[14:02:54] <Vexatos> Sangar, for crafting it makes sense, you have beverage, throw some undefinable acid inside and get grog
L941[14:03:07] <Vexatos> but for bees? Hmmm
L942[14:03:11] <McJty> No not yet. I can do that in a moment.
L943[14:03:19] <Sangar> Vexatos, well they're pirate bees, ofc they'd prefer mead over water :P
L944[14:03:27] <McJty> Sangar, http://imgur.com/a/jVfVI
L945[14:03:33] <McJty> Sangar, that's how it should work right?
L946[14:03:42] <Vexatos> water is not water, Sangar, the flower type is called "Sea", that's what pirates like
L947[14:03:46] <Sangar> McJty, yep
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L949[14:03:57] <Sangar> Vexatos, ahh, i see
L950[14:04:11] <Sangar> well in that case that's perfectly fine
L951[14:04:16] <Vexatos> so you need a block of water nearby to represent sea, and a tropical biome type :)
L952[14:04:25] <Vexatos> so tropical islands are the best
L953[14:04:26] <Vexatos> :P
L954[14:04:34] <McJty> Sangar, ok. In a normal env which version of Open Computers should I use?
L955[14:05:09] <Vexatos> Temia, http://puu.sh/dgswU/cfcfb20c62.png
L956[14:05:10] <Sangar> McJty, grab latest dev
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L959[14:05:24] <Sangar> or rather, universal of what you're using in your dev env i guess?
L960[14:05:24] <Vexatos> How many references do you find, Temia?
L961[14:05:32] <Wobbo> I guess I will be going for IBL as a name for now, if people have better ideas you can keep sending them
L962[14:05:34] <Inari> hm
L963[14:05:41] <Inari> can robots use an electronics assembler?
L964[14:05:42] <Temia> Heehee.
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L966[14:05:53] <Vexatos> That was a serious question
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L968[14:06:07] <Temia> Pretty much all Monkey Island stuff :P
L969[14:06:13] <Vexatos> how many*
L970[14:06:18] <Vexatos> numberz please
L971[14:06:23] <Vexatos> :3
L972[14:06:25] <Temia> The recipe, the genus, the quote source...
L973[14:06:32] <McJty> Sangar, from here: http://ci.cil.li/ ?
L974[14:06:39] <Sangar> McJty, aye
L975[14:06:39] <Temia> Anyway I actually need to get moving, so ciao
L976[14:06:45] <Vexatos> Awww
L977[14:06:52] <Vexatos> Bye
L978[14:07:10] <Vexatos> Okay, now all I need for the next Computronics version is OC 1.4.7 with the peripheral thing inside
L979[14:07:20] <Vexatos> Will be out in a few days, I assume :P
L980[14:07:23] <Inari> ~w electronics
L981[14:07:23] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-select
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L983[14:08:00] * Vexatos pokes Sangar about the MuseScore plugin stuff
L984[14:08:18] <Vexatos> oh wait, you said Sunday (and you said "maybe" but I'm ignoring that)
L985[14:08:37] <McJty> Sangar, hmm crashes
L986[14:08:38] <McJty> hold on
L987[14:08:47] <McJty> https://bpaste.net/show/81377fd5bf74
L988[14:09:00] <McJty> That's what I get if I add latest dev of OC to my test (but non-dev) env
L989[14:09:18] <Sangar> wtf
L990[14:09:28] <Sangar> grab stable for the time being then >_>
L991[14:09:33] <Sangar> will need to look into that
L992[14:09:50] <GunArm> looking for a decent way to easily download OP stuff to my OC pc's. Vexatos is your op-manager functional?
L993[14:10:07] <Vexatos> functional? It's been working like a champ
L994[14:10:12] <Vexatos> :P
L995[14:10:14] <GunArm> cool beans
L996[14:10:16] <Vexatos> ~w oppm
L997[14:10:16] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:program:oppm
L998[14:10:18] <Vexatos> Read that
L999[14:10:22] <Vexatos> it's all you need to know
L1000[14:10:26] <Pwootage> booo, oppm
L1001[14:10:27] <Pwootage> ;D
L1002[14:10:35] <Pwootage> it does work tho
L1003[14:10:42] <GunArm> ah neat, i just found it by random on github
L1004[14:10:55] <GunArm> oh!! its actually in game on disks!
L1005[14:11:01] <Pwootage> yes, yes it is
L1006[14:12:06] <McJty> Sangar, may be a conflict with another mod because it gives exactly the same error with stable
L1007[14:12:20] <McJty> https://bpaste.net/show/a514ab41c66f
L1008[14:12:29] <McJty> brb
L1009[14:12:31] <Negi> I hate sin waves for five hours after each of my mechanics classes ._.
L1010[14:12:56] <Sangar> McJty, huh. lemme look what's on that line.
L1011[14:13:03] <Negi> And vectors too.
L1012[14:13:06] <Negi> Vectors are terrible.
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L1014[14:13:31] <Inari> just liten to some https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18783800/Randomize12.wav
L1015[14:14:02] <Vexatos> McJty, which version of Forge are you using?
L1016[14:14:34] <Vexatos> my ears
L1017[14:14:37] <Vexatos> Inari, my ears D:
L1018[14:14:56] <Pwootage> Vectors are beautiful
L1019[14:15:05] <Wobbo> Negi: Vectors are nice
L1020[14:15:11] <Vexatos> Quick, Sangar, make it sunday so I can make you finish my plugin so I can hear the monkey island theme all day long
L1021[14:15:12] <pong> .> synth.paste(synth.sawtooth({freq=100})*(synth.sine({freq=6,volume=50})+0.5)
L1022[14:15:12] <^v> pong, lua:1: ')' expected near '<eof>'
L1023[14:15:14] <pong> .> synth.paste(synth.sawtooth({freq=100})*(synth.sine({freq=6,volume=50})+0.5))
L1024[14:15:18] <^v> pong, http://71.238.153.166/synth/xIJKm.mp3
L1025[14:15:23] <Wobbo> Negi: I want Lua to have matrix and vector calculations!
L1026[14:15:29] <pong> sigh
L1027[14:16:19] <Vexatos> .> synth.paste(synth.sine({freq=6,volume=50})+0.5)
L1028[14:16:25] <Vexatos> pong ^
L1029[14:16:40] <Vexatos> .> return true
L1030[14:16:41] <^v> Nope.
L1031[14:16:45] <Vexatos> .> return "Nope."
L1032[14:16:46] <^v> Nope.
L1033[14:16:48] <Vexatos> ^ works
L1034[14:17:07] <Sangar> McJty, hrm, that indicates an item wasn't registered correctly (specifically the openos floppy). could you check if there are any other warnings along those lines further up in the log?
L1035[14:17:12] <Wobbo> Sangar, Vexatos, Pwootage: What do you think about Guibl: Geolyzer Using Intelligent Block Location?
L1036[14:17:18] <pong> .> synth.paste(synth.sawtooth({freq=100})*(synth.sine({freq=6,volume=50})+0.5))
L1037[14:17:18] <^v> pong, http://68.36.225.16/synth/jqKqS.mp3
L1038[14:17:25] <Pwootage> I don't really care :P
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L1040[14:18:20] <pong> .> synth.paste((synth.sawtooth({freq=100,length=0.5})..synth.sawtooth({freq=100,length=0.5})..synth.sawtooth({freq=100,length=0.5}))*(synth.sine({freq=6,volume=50,length=1.5})+0.5))
L1041[14:18:20] <^v> pong, http://68.36.225.16/synth/GOBWC.mp3
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L1043[14:18:32] <Sangar> Wobbo, Geolyzer Identified Block Location Itemifier
L1044[14:18:34] <pong> .> synth.paste((synth.sawtooth({freq=100,length=0.5})..synth.sawtooth({freq=200,length=0.5})..synth.sawtooth({freq=300,length=0.5}))*(synth.sine({freq=6,volume=50,length=1.5})+0.5))
L1045[14:18:34] <^v> pong, http://68.36.225.16/synth/JJpPr.mp3
L1046[14:18:39] <pong> wait.. wrong channel >_>
L1047[14:19:00] <Vexatos> pong, #ocbots*
L1048[14:19:23] <Wobbo> Sangar: They do make good movies :P
L1049[14:19:28] <Sangar> ikr
L1050[14:19:49] <Vexatos> Geolyzer Identified Mining & Location Itemifier
L1051[14:20:43] <McJty> Ah
L1052[14:20:50] <McJty> Sangar, my test modpack contains dragonapi.
L1053[14:20:55] <Vexatos> >_____________________>
L1054[14:20:57] <McJty> I'm guessing that might be the issue
L1055[14:20:58] <Vexatos> >_______________________________________________________________>
L1056[14:21:00] <Vexatos> >___________________
L1057[14:21:02] <Vexatos> ____________________________________
L1058[14:21:05] <McJty> brb again
L1059[14:21:06] <Vexatos> [...]
L1060[14:21:08] <Vexatos> ________>
L1061[14:21:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Vexatos: Are you okay?
L1062[14:21:20] <Pwootage> I stopped using those mods because of the crap that is dragonapi
L1063[14:21:29] * Vexatos throws desks around
L1064[14:21:32] <Pwootage> He's feeling a bit whale
L1065[14:21:33] <Vexatos> dragonAPI...
L1066[14:21:44] * Vexatos sighs
L1067[14:21:55] <Sangar> McJty, maybe, it does have an outdated api, but nothing that should matter wrt to this i don't think
L1068[14:22:11] <Sangar> but yeah, give it a shot without
L1069[14:22:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, dragonAPI does some serious coremodding in other places
L1070[14:22:16] <Sangar> or remove the oc api from the jar
L1071[14:22:35] <Pwootage> it also has a tendancy to arbitrarily cause errors in other mods (all the time)
L1072[14:22:57] <Sangar> Vexatos, well, fair enough, i don't know what else it might change
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L1075[14:26:17] <Wobbo> Sangar: If I call io.output in a program with a filename and then use io.write, the file exists, but is empty
L1076[14:26:43] <Sangar> did you flush?
L1077[14:27:01] <Wobbo> Sangar: I didn't have a handle, so no
L1078[14:27:11] <ShadowKatStudios> io.flush
L1079[14:27:31] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: That is a thing, thanks
L1080[14:28:15] <RepairMan> Hi
L1081[14:28:18] <ShadowKatStudios> http://i.imgur.com/xH4PpEr.png
L1082[14:28:33] <Wobbo> Sangar: Anyway, it would be better imho if that would happen automatically
L1083[14:29:04] <Sangar> Wobbo, then disable buffering :P (f:setvbuf)
L1084[14:29:45] <Wobbo> Sangar: That is still an extra step you need to take. I can take that step, but not everybody will understand that ;)
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L1087[14:30:52] <Sangar> Wobbo, what do you suggest? changing the buffer mode in io.output(f)? that seems kinda.. meh? b/c less control and unexpected and so on :/
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L1089[14:31:15] <Wobbo> Sangar: Flushing io.output when changing the output I would say
L1090[14:31:16] <Pwootage> ShadowKatStudios: hey, it's little bobby tables!
L1091[14:31:24] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
L1092[14:31:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, PUSH
L1093[14:31:30] <Sangar> Wobbo, hm, yeah, that seems reasonable. make a pr :P
L1094[14:31:36] <Sangar> Vexatos, but i did!
L1095[14:31:46] <Vexatos> U:
L1096[14:31:50] <Wobbo> Sangar: So when the program reaches the end and io.output gets rest to stdout it flushes
L1097[14:31:57] <Wobbo> Sangar: Not now, am busy :P
L1098[14:32:08] <Sangar> come join the club :P
L1099[14:32:13] <ShadowKatStudios> So I crashed lightbeam
L1100[14:32:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I think my browsing is too much for it
L1101[14:34:09] <Negi> Gr8.
L1102[14:35:27] <Wobbo> ibl has succesfully found a pocket of iron \o/
L1103[14:35:38] <Wobbo> Sangar: I already have a membership ;)
L1104[14:35:53] <Vexatos> Sangar, thanks for the version bump
L1105[14:35:57] <Vexatos> now I can release the mod
L1106[14:36:00] <Vexatos> depend on OC 1.4.7
L1107[14:36:06] <Vexatos> before there's even a release out
L1108[14:36:06] <Vexatos> \o/
L1109[14:36:12] <Vexatos> (a release of OC)
L1110[14:36:21] <Sangar> :P
L1111[14:36:49] <Vexatos> Gosh I love my new chair
L1112[14:36:55] <Vexatos> it's soooo amazing o-o
L1113[14:37:12] <ShadowKatStudios> New chair?
L1114[14:37:16] <Sangar> what does it do? can you ... sit on it? that'd be awesome.
L1115[14:37:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Does it spin and have wheels and armrests?
L1116[14:38:12] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: I can spin on its wheels :P
L1117[14:38:30] <Vexatos> ShadowKatStudios, yeas
L1118[14:38:31] <Vexatos> yes*
L1119[14:38:33] <Vexatos> all of that
L1120[14:38:41] <Vexatos> I got it for b-day because my old one's back broke for no reason
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L1122[14:38:58] <ShadowKatStudios> D: My chair doesn't have armrests and the back is weord-as
L1123[14:39:23] <Vexatos> new chair is the best
L1124[14:39:30] <Vexatos> I also got some swiss cheese from my sister
L1125[14:39:38] <Vexatos> amazing stuff
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L1127[14:41:28] <McJty> Sangar, I will continue this tomorrow. Ran out of time. Thanks for the help.
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L1129[14:41:43] <McJty> Later!
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L1134[14:44:09] <Sangar> Vexatos, are you subtly trying to tell us it's your birthday, btw? because if you are, it's not working.
L1135[14:44:27] <Vexatos> it was yesterday
L1136[14:44:32] <Vexatos> :P
L1137[14:44:37] <Sangar> ah, happy belated birthday then ;)
L1138[14:44:40] <MindWorX__> Creative Tablet incoming I see! :D
L1139[14:45:03] <Vexatos> go gradle
L1140[14:45:05] <Vexatos> build faster
L1141[14:45:16] <Vexatos> Sangar, @Optional.Interface + BlacklistedPeripheral = win
L1142[14:45:28] <Negi> BlacklistedPeripheral ?
L1143[14:45:36] <Negi> What's taht ?
L1144[14:45:42] <MindWorX__> Hm, would an admin command suggestion be possible?
L1145[14:45:46] <Negi> s/taht/that/
L1146[14:45:46] <Kibibyte> <Negi> What's that ?
L1147[14:45:54] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Congrats!
L1148[14:46:04] <Vexatos> Negi, nothing you'll ever need
L1149[14:46:06] <Wobbo> Sangar: Have you been to Hamburg yet actually?
L1150[14:46:08] <Vexatos> nothing anyone will ever need
L1151[14:46:12] <Vexatos> except for me
L1152[14:46:13] <MindWorX__> Basically, "/oc_lock", prevents the currently held oc device from being disassembled.
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L1154[14:46:33] <Vexatos> Wobbo, eating Hamburgers?
L1155[14:46:35] <Vexatos> :3
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L1157[14:46:42] <Negi> Vexatos: I like to know about things I don't need.
L1158[14:46:48] <Wobbo> Vexatos: You know what I mean :P
L1159[14:47:00] <Vexatos> Wobbo, I don't support cannibalism
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L1161[14:47:26] <Sangar> Wobbo, yeah, was on monday. may be an option, will continue looking for a bit longer though... pay is a little low for having to move so far :/
L1162[14:47:53] <Vexatos> Also Hamburg is expensive o-o
L1163[14:48:00] <Vexatos> Try Bremen, it's not that expensive
L1164[14:48:02] <Sangar> well, so is munich :P
L1165[14:48:31] <Vexatos> Like, not nearly as expensive as Munich or Berlin or Hamburg
L1166[14:48:55] <Wobbo> Sangar: Yeah, I can understand that :/
L1167[14:49:58] <Negi> Someday I will get around doing things with OC...
L1168[14:50:00] <Negi> Someday...
L1169[14:50:14] <Sangar> we'll see how february goes... will resend some applications, hoping they just got buried / lost over christmas / the holidays :P
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L1171[14:50:42] <Vexatos> I have even less jobs than Sangar
L1172[14:50:49] <Vexatos> But I am still student >_>
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L1174[14:50:56] <gamax92> Sangar: Good fun, have luck!
L1175[14:51:01] <Vexatos> ^
L1176[14:51:05] <Vexatos> gfhl
L1177[14:51:28] <MindWorX__> Bam, suggestion: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/875
L1178[14:51:34] <Sangar> :P
L1179[14:52:11] <Sangar> hmm, interesting idea. shouldn't be too hard to implement.
L1180[14:52:32] <Wobbo> Vexatos: I have more job than Sangar but am also student :P
L1181[14:53:09] <Negi> That word.
L1182[14:53:14] <Negi> Vexatos. That word.
L1183[14:53:29] <ds84182> Sangar: does eris require modified lua source code or can I just drop in eris.c anywhere?
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L1185[14:54:26] <Sangar> ds84182, slight modifications to a few files, adding access to internal functions (continuation functions)
L1186[14:55:13] <ds84182> what file would those be?
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L1190[14:55:43] <ds84182> *files
L1191[14:55:50] <Sangar> ds84182, https://github.com/fnuecke/eris/compare/lua...master
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L1193[14:56:56] <Negi> So much things to get done. So little time.
L1194[14:57:26] <MindWorX__> Just get Sangar to help. He's a productivity machine.
L1195[14:58:11] <Vexatos> Sangar, is it possible to check through API whether a peripheral is blacklisted?
L1196[14:58:14] <Sangar> you think so? i feel it's quite the opposite recently, really
L1197[14:58:16] <ds84182> ok, I see
L1198[14:58:18] <gamax92> such productivity
L1199[14:58:22] <Sangar> Vexatos, uhhh
L1200[14:58:25] <Negi> MindWorX__ : I think that Sangar has better things to do than to help me messing around with GUIs and trying to learn how to Java.
L1201[14:58:32] <ds84182> so things like __eris.corolib_luaB_auxwrap and stuff
L1202[14:58:34] <MindWorX__> Pishposh
L1203[14:58:34] <Wobbo> MindWorX__: Actually, Sangar isn't. He is just transparant about what he does and positions fixing bugs above adding features.
L1204[14:58:36] <ds84182> I can work with that
L1205[14:58:38] <MindWorX__> Sangar has time to everyone.
L1206[14:58:40] <ds84182> time for eris 5.3 ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L1207[14:58:44] <MindWorX__> Sangar is omnipotent like that.
L1208[14:58:44] <gamax92> eris 5.3!
L1209[14:59:05] <MindWorX__> Wobbo, He's been pretty efficient about implementing the features I've needed so far. :P
L1210[14:59:13] <Vexatos> Sangar, I assume that's a "no"
L1211[14:59:19] <Sangar> ds84182, note the Lua5.3 branch, i started work on that, but upvalues fail hard :X
L1212[14:59:30] <Wobbo> MindWorX__: not for features I've needed, so I implemented them myself :P
L1213[14:59:44] <Sangar> Vexatos, sortakinda
L1214[14:59:53] <Wobbo> Sangar: Also, after a whole year, still no io.popen :(
L1215[14:59:59] <Sangar> Vexatos, you can get the settings and get the list from that
L1216[15:00:10] <Vexatos> Meh
L1217[15:00:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, couldn't you just throw this
L1218[15:00:47] <Vexatos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/a7a264b9502b128d00e669acfb90811796e55681/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/integration/computercraft/DriverPeripheral.java#L29-L53
L1219[15:00:53] <Vexatos> Into BlacklistedPeripheral
L1220[15:00:56] <Vexatos> as a static method?
L1221[15:01:15] <Sangar> how would i do that in java < 1.8 with no default methods in interfaces?
L1222[15:01:24] <Vexatos> uuh
L1223[15:01:29] <Vexatos> Interfaces can have static methods
L1224[15:01:31] <Vexatos> no problem
L1225[15:01:35] <Sangar> wat
L1226[15:01:59] <Vexatos> Try it
L1227[15:02:01] <Vexatos> it will work
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L1229[15:02:30] <Vexatos> you could then simply call BlacklistedPeripheral.isBlacklisted(object)
L1230[15:02:34] <Vexatos> would be pretty convenient+
L1231[15:02:42] <Vexatos> just make sure to initialize it internally some time
L1232[15:02:47] <Vexatos> maybe using FMLLoadCompleteEvent
L1233[15:02:52] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
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L1236[15:03:03] <Sangar> Vexatos, i think you're lying
L1237[15:03:24] <Wobbo> Let me look it up in absolute java
L1238[15:03:25] <Vexatos> Ah
L1239[15:03:37] <Sangar> http://bugs.java.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=4093687
L1240[15:03:44] <Sangar> it was considered but never added
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L1242[15:03:55] <Vexatos> Hmm
L1243[15:03:58] <Vexatos> nevermind then
L1244[15:03:59] <Wobbo> nvm them
L1245[15:04:05] <Vexatos> I thought it'd work
L1246[15:04:10] <Vexatos> I can remember using it myself
L1247[15:04:12] <Vexatos> o-o
L1248[15:04:19] <Sangar> sure that wasn't an abstract class?
L1249[15:04:25] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Yeah. Ever heard of false memories?
L1250[15:04:28] <Vexatos> Well, Sangar, then just add it to the main APi class maybe
L1251[15:04:46] <Vexatos> li.cil.oc.api.API
L1252[15:05:02] <Sangar> eh, would better fit into api.Driver, since it's driver related
L1253[15:05:09] <Vexatos> Or that
L1254[15:05:16] <Sangar> but it's kinda... very specialcase-ish
L1255[15:05:22] <Vexatos> I know :/
L1256[15:05:29] <Vexatos> But BlacklistedPeripheral already is >_>
L1257[15:05:42] <ShadowKatStudios> .octime
L1258[15:05:42] <EnderBot2> Current OC time: Fri Jan 30 21:05:42 2015
L1259[15:05:51] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L1260[15:05:55] <Vexatos> Might need to find another way
L1261[15:05:57] <ShadowKatStudios> :/ It's still the 30th in GMT
L1262[15:06:09] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Yep :D
L1263[15:06:23] <Sangar> Vexatos, open a ticket to discuss it
L1264[15:06:41] <Vexatos> Sangar, I'll just use settings.get, I think
L1265[15:06:47] <Sangar> or that
L1266[15:06:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Also, it's still not evening in Japan yet :/
L1267[15:06:48] <Sangar> :P
L1268[15:06:56] <Vexatos> re-implementing your method
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L1271[15:09:33] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: I wrote a program that uses a geolyzer to find ores under the ground
L1272[15:09:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool.
L1273[15:10:03] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Its called ibl: Intelligent Block Locator
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L1276[15:12:14] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios: Its for OCJam, so not putting it on github yet
L1277[15:13:57] <ds84182> Sangar: I see what you are talking about
L1278[15:14:08] <ds84182> I did a simple test and upvalues are not getting set
L1279[15:14:13] <ds84182> local a = 5 local bin = eris.persist(function() a = 6 end) eris.unpersist(bin)() return a
L1280[15:14:58] <ds84182> it outputs 5
L1281[15:15:02] <Sangar> yeah
L1282[15:16:20] <ds84182> so, how do I go about debugging this
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L1284[15:18:18] <gamax92> ds84182: get a hardware debugger, and then run your eris 5.3 in windows in vmware in linux in virtualbox in windows in qemu in linux in actual hardware
L1285[15:18:56] <Sangar> ds84182, pretty sure it's something in p_closure/u_closure when tracking the already saved/loaded upvalues... no idea why it works in 5.2 but not in 5.3 tho
L1286[15:19:21] <ShadowKatStudios> gamax92: Top-level Linux. Good.
L1287[15:20:21] <gamax92> s/in actual hardware/in bochs in OS/X in actual hardware/
L1288[15:20:25] <gamax92> oops
L1289[15:20:29] <gamax92> s/in actual hardware/in bochs in OSX in actual hardware/
L1290[15:20:46] <gamax92> sed no worky
L1291[15:21:58] <Negi> I'm going to bed.0
L1292[15:22:00] <Negi> Night
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L1294[15:22:05] <gamax92> ._.
L1295[15:22:11] <gamax92> y u leave before i can say bai
L1296[15:24:55] <Vexatos> Hey Sangar: http://pastebin.com/HJb9JRVZ :3
L1297[15:25:09] <Vexatos> Now I can remove all the blacklisted peripherals from my list this easily
L1298[15:25:10] <Vexatos> thanks
L1299[15:25:25] <Sangar> heh
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L1302[15:27:59] <Vexatos> Unfortunately using non-API OC code
L1303[15:28:01] <Vexatos> meh
L1304[15:29:34] <Sangar> gotta get out early tomorrow, so i'm off. gnight o/
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L1306[15:33:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Night Sangar
L1307[15:33:41] <Wobbo> both Vexatos and Sangar goen in one go
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L1310[15:39:13] <ds84182> lol, attempt to literally persist userdata
L1311[15:39:57] <pong> attempt to literally persist universe
L1312[15:39:59] <pong> success
L1313[15:41:09] <Wobbo> Lets stop working for today. Make some progress :P
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L1317[15:53:32] <ShadowKatStudios> wtf vlc
L1318[15:53:40] <ShadowKatStudios> it's still playing even though I closed it
L1319[15:54:16] <Ender> lol
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L1321[15:57:35] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios: Leeets plaaaaay someeeethiiiiiing ._.
L1322[15:57:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Sugg- hmm
L1323[15:58:26] <vifino> I've been searching my butt off on ebay, searching for floppy drives to make a floppy midi player thing
L1324[15:58:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I have a draw of FDDs
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L1326[15:59:15] <vifino> :/ I don't
L1327[16:00:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway, vifino, did you know The Enderverse is back up?
L1328[16:00:16] <vifino> Oh, really?
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L1339[16:21:16] <Wobbo> Meh, I'm going as well
L1340[16:21:18] <Wobbo> Bye!
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L1351[16:41:01] <kGielo> Anyone can help me with modding with OpenComputers?
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L1355[16:46:56] <kGielo> Hello? :(
L1356[16:47:07] <gamax92> Hi there kGielo
L1357[16:47:21] <kGielo> Oh! Hello! And greetings from Poland.
L1358[16:47:32] <gamax92> Greetings from United States?
L1359[16:47:33] <kGielo> I've a question to OpenComputers.
L1360[16:47:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Morning from Australia.
L1361[16:48:12] <kGielo> Anyone can modding?
L1362[16:48:21] <gamax92> I've done some OpenComputers modding
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L1364[16:48:57] <kGielo> Becouse, I'm writting an addon to OpenComputers, and I don't know how to add OpenComputers classes to my mod :/
L1365[16:49:15] <kGielo> I know, I must put the opencomputers dev version in libs folder, and what?
L1366[16:49:38] <gamax92> uhh ...
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L1368[16:49:48] * gamax92 pokes Techokami
L1369[16:49:57] * Techokami bites
L1370[16:49:59] <kGielo> refresh in gradle?
L1371[16:49:59] <Techokami> sup
L1372[16:50:09] <ShadowKatStudios> gamax92: Don't poke the AmandaC
L1373[16:50:23] <gamax92> Techokami: how are you supposed to link oc's dev api in gradle?
L1374[16:51:27] <kGielo> i read, an
L1375[16:52:10] <kGielo> i read, a must put in build.gradle a dependecie to opencomputers.
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L1377[16:52:21] <kGielo> And then refhers?
L1378[16:52:31] <Techokami> in your build.gradle add the OC maven repo to the repo list, then under the dependencies group add a compile command for OpenComputers
L1379[16:52:49] <Techokami> lemme show you a sample build.gradle
L1380[16:53:05] <Techokami> https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/blob/master/build.gradle
L1381[16:53:10] <kGielo> Ohh, beutiful.
L1382[16:53:54] <kGielo> Techokami, and then type gradlew refresh or.. decompile?
L1383[16:54:23] <Techokami> once you've properly edited your build.gradle, run: gradlew build
L1384[16:54:39] <Techokami> BTW you will not need to put the dev jar in the libs folder anymore
L1385[16:54:56] <Techokami> because gradle will pull OpenComputers down from the maven repo for you
L1386[16:55:09] <kGielo> Thaaaank you!!
L1387[16:55:11] <Techokami> yep
L1388[16:55:33] <Techokami> gamax92, I dare you to poke AmandaC
L1389[16:55:36] <kGielo> And to "publish" I must run: gradlew... what?
L1390[16:55:46] <kGielo> *publish mod.
L1391[16:55:46] <gamax92> Techokami: i'm not in cc's channel though.
L1392[16:55:51] <Techokami> what do you mean publish
L1393[16:56:00] <kGielo> Get jar of modification.
L1394[16:56:30] <Techokami> the output will be in the build/libs/ folder
L1395[16:56:44] <Techokami> that's where your jar will be
L1396[16:56:49] <kGielo> I know.
L1397[16:56:56] <kGielo> But, I need a jar. of my mod.
L1398[16:57:02] <kGielo> So, what i must do?
L1399[16:57:07] <gamax92> gradlew build
L1400[16:57:19] <Techokami> do you speak English? I'm having difficulty understanding you.
L1401[16:58:16] <kGielo> I speak, but I'm from Poland.. yes yes.. Polaczki Cebulaczki.
L1402[16:58:42] <kGielo> I don't understand...
L1403[16:59:02] <kGielo> to get classes of opencomputers, i must run: gradlew build.
L1404[16:59:17] <kGielo> to get jar file of my mod (compiled) i must run: gradlew build too?
L1405[16:59:22] <Techokami> yes
L1406[16:59:33] <kGielo> And where this jar will be?
L1407[16:59:44] <gamax92> build/libs/
L1408[16:59:59] <Techokami> this folder is in your project folder and will be created by gradle
L1409[17:00:26] <kGielo> I'm so thankful!
L1410[17:00:56] <ShadowKatStudios> ~w redstone
L1411[17:00:56] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:redstone
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L1415[17:01:45] <kGielo> Thank you. Good night!
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L1421[17:06:52] <ShadowKatStudios> The name for a chat box is chat, right?
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L1437[17:50:37] <Pwootage> whee, I wrote a (rather basic but functional) malloc
L1438[17:53:09] <ShadowKatStudios> I wrote a door control program.
L1439[17:53:14] <ShadowKatStudios> "Speak, friend, and enter."
L1440[17:54:21] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otmase5twFM
L1441[17:54:21] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] Eye of the Tiger on a dot matrix printer | by firstlabor | 4m22s | 48w6d ago | 53,163 views | Rated: 4.96/5.00
L1442[17:54:23] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: ^
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L1462[18:45:16] <Kodos> Oh how lovely, someone is going around IRC channels with the nick 'opencomputers' cussing about
L1463[18:46:03] <MandrakeF> Fantastic
L1464[18:46:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Ooo, which channels?
L1465[18:47:35] <Kodos> MineChem was one
L1466[18:48:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyone want pictures of the inside of a PS2?
L1467[18:49:51] <Kodos> http://youtu.be/oOlDewpCfZQ
L1468[18:49:51] -Kibibyte- [Kodos] 4 Chords | by axisofawesome | 6m20s | 184w2d ago | 21,222,817 views | Rated: 4.96/5.00
L1469[18:50:23] <MandrakeF> Minechem haha
L1470[18:50:57] <MandrakeF> Im gonna write a program but im not certain if should release it
L1471[18:51:33] <Kodos> What's it do?
L1472[18:54:00] <MandrakeF> A replica of the payload of the CIH virus with a MLG montage parody twist
L1473[18:54:25] <Kodos> https://gma.yahoo.com/delta-plane-makes-emergency-landing-pilot-locked-cockpit-055600464--abc-news-topstories.html lmfao
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L1475[18:58:23] <MandrakeF> FAZE MLG PRO
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L1477[19:04:14] <MandrakeF> Can you play a midi on the pc speaker?
L1478[19:05:13] <MandrakeF> *Plays sandstorm before erasing machine*
L1479[19:08:01] <MandrakeF> Seems like you can
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L1481[19:23:49] <Brycey92> Sangar, when does OC 1.4.7 roll out?
L1482[19:25:08] <Kodos> I'm not Sanger, but probably when it's done, if history repeats itself
L1483[19:26:16] <MandrakeF> It will be relsed 420 picoseconds early
L1484[19:27:15] <MandrakeF> Sorry
L1485[19:27:20] <MandrakeF> Im working on CIH MLG edition atm
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L1487[19:33:37] <MandrakeF> See you all later
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L1490[19:37:31] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go4Mx4jzAfg
L1491[19:37:32] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] PRINTER Soundcheck - Pitch and Volume Test [HD] | by mididesaster | 46s | 34w1d ago | 1,131 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
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L1493[19:42:10] <Brycey92> lol kodos
L1494[19:42:17] <Brycey92> history does indeed repeat itself
L1495[19:43:56] <gamax92> How to make cookies:
L1496[19:43:58] <gamax92> Go to store
L1497[19:44:00] <gamax92> buy cookies
L1498[19:45:52] <Kodos> Someone needs to do BASIC in OC already so I can copy my book into my computer
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L1505[20:06:47] <Coreymills26> does anyone have a sample script for crafting with the robot?
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L1508[20:24:56] <Kodos> If anyone sees Timmy, I need to talk to him. Back in a bit, running to the store.
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L1512[20:47:26] <ShadowKatStudios> gopher://lain.shadowkat.tk/ So this is new.
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L1524[22:09:49] <dangranos> steam, wtf
L1525[22:10:35] <Coreymills26> ?
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L1537[22:46:02] <McJty> Hi
L1538[22:46:28] <McJty> I just did a test and my shield proejct component is working fine if I run my mod and OC in a normal minecraft instance.
L1539[22:46:34] <McJty> Just can't get it to work in my dev environment.
L1540[22:46:45] <McJty> Even though it worked fine for Sangar
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L1553[23:30:57] <McJty> Anyone here who can find anything suspicious in this log that might explain why my dev environment isn't working for OC in combination with my mod: https://bpaste.net/show/60d4819b0524
L1554[23:31:04] <McJty> It works fine in a normal MC environment.
L1555[23:31:12] <McJty> And for sangar it is also fine in his dev env.
L1556[23:31:54] <McJty> Symptom: the OC cable visibly connects to my block but the computer doesn't see it as a component
L1557[23:37:03] <Kodos> Can you link your code that you're using for the component?
L1558[23:39:22] <McJty> https://github.com/McJty/RFTools/blob/master/src/main/java/com/mcjty/rftools/blocks/shield/ShieldTileEntity.java
L1559[23:39:31] <McJty> Note that it *does* work fine outside of dev env though
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L1562[23:42:11] <Kodos> Interesting that it works outside of dev, but not in a dev inv
L1563[23:42:14] <Kodos> env*
L1564[23:42:52] <McJty> Well it does work in Sangar's dev env. But in his case it is rftools that is the secondary mod with OC in dev. For me it is the other way around
L1565[23:43:22] <Kodos> Right. I could see why you'd need it to work that way, since your mod isn't an addon, but rather the OC functionality is a bonus of your mod
L1566[23:43:40] <McJty> yes
L1567[23:43:44] <Kodos> On an unrelated note, I love RFTools. I use the matter transporters in my space station :3
L1568[23:43:46] <McJty> I'm already happy that it works.
L1569[23:43:55] <McJty> But it would help test this much better if I could get it work in my dev env too
L1570[23:43:59] <McJty> Kodos, thanks :-)
L1571[23:44:22] <Kodos> I'm assuming you and Sanger are running the exact same code in the dev env?
L1572[23:44:39] <Kodos> Same workspace, too, etc
L1573[23:44:47] <McJty> Yes for rftools. Not sure what sangar has done to his local OC though
L1574[23:45:01] <Kodos> Hm, you'd have to ask him when he gets on in about... 10 hours or so
L1575[23:45:08] <McJty> :-)
L1576[23:45:16] <McJty> We already went over this yesterday
L1577[23:45:18] <Kodos> As far as I can tell, that -should- work
L1578[23:45:20] <McJty> BTW
L1579[23:45:34] <McJty> Note that I'm having this EXACT problem on my two computers where I have a dev env installed:
L1580[23:45:40] <McJty> - One is Windows with Java 6
L1581[23:45:43] <McJty> - One is Linux with Java 8
L1582[23:45:47] <McJty> Both exactly the same problem.
L1583[23:45:57] <Kodos> Just for shiggles, have you tried windows with Java 7?
L1584[23:46:15] <McJty> No, can't do that right now either.
L1585[23:46:21] <Kodos> Ah. Alrighty.
L1586[23:47:14] <McJty> If I can't solve this I'm going to have to resolve to outside-dev env testing which is a lot slower
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L1589[23:49:53] <McJty> My OC is a bit rusty. Once I have identified my component in a computer. What's the easiest way to test if a certain api that I added works?
L1590[23:50:14] <Vexatos> open the lua interpreter
L1591[23:50:29] <Vexatos> and type "c = component.<componentname>"
L1592[23:50:37] <Vexatos> then you call "=c.theMethod()"
L1593[23:50:46] <Vexatos> The equals sign makes it print the result
L1594[23:51:07] <McJty> Nice it works!
L1595[23:51:21] <McJty> Can I example the api of a component in game?
L1596[23:51:29] <McJty> Ah yes, just =c
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L1598[23:54:28] <Coreymills26> has anyone used funky locomotion with openComputers?
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L1600[23:59:51] <McJty> What kind of things can one return in the Object[] array for a callback? Primitive types? Enums?
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