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L1[00:00:08] <gamax92> also fuck threads ._.
they must hate me.
L2[00:00:09] <TabletCube> What are these
ships?
L4[00:00:39] <lperkins2> I'm working on
getting them working with galacticraft
L5[00:01:07] <gamax92> I'm also going to be
listening to bakercat while adding in this cursor to maintain
motivation
L6[00:01:07] <lperkins2> So I added a rocket
engine and made it use the world.provider.getGravity thingy,
L7[00:01:43] <lperkins2> but the rocket I
added is OC controlled, which means I need it to be able to save
the computer in one world and load it in a nested world.
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L9[00:02:11] <Kodos> Sangar <3 the idea
of 5.3 being an alt arch
L10[00:05:49] <Magik6k> Sangar, u still
here?
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L12[00:06:21] <Sangar> Magik6k, yes?
L13[00:06:35] <lperkins2> Aha! so I think I
see how to do this...
L14[00:06:52] <lperkins2> I need to ask the
local world get fetch a blank tile entity.
L15[00:07:05] <Magik6k> Would you mind if I
PR'ed tiny feature to termm.read: adding match argument, forcing
entered text to match given expression
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L19[00:07:56] <Magik6k> (for things like
Y/n, numbers etc.)
L20[00:08:36] <Magik6k> Sangar, ^
L21[00:08:48] <Sangar> one sec
L22[00:10:06] <Sangar> hm, sure, why not.
it's already hopelessly overloaded anyway :D
L23[00:10:28] <lperkins2> Hm, or I might be
able to just use getDescriptionPacket from the server...
L24[00:10:30] <Magik6k> kind of.. at least
it's really flexible
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L26[00:16:02] <lperkins2> Hm, any easy way
to dump a description packet into an NBT?
L27[00:19:48] <Kodos> Sanger, with GPU
changes, what are the odds of color depth getting increased? And
have you given any looks at the holo emitter's draw speed
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L29[00:22:13] <Sangar> lperkins2,
func_148857_g? tho that's client side only (for obvious
reasons)
L30[00:23:00] <Sangar> Kodos, no more
colors, a short can only store 255 foreground + 255 background
states :P and no, haven't had a look at the holo bandwidth
yet
L31[00:23:36] <Kodos> Ah, okies
L32[00:23:41] <Kodos> And okies
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L35[00:28:57] <lperkins2> Hm, looks like I
may be able to use S35PacketUpdateTileEntity to serialize the
packet to a byte array, store that in the NBT tag, and load it on
the other side...
L36[00:30:27] <gamax92> lperkins2: the more
and more I dig into OCLights2 the more and more I want to curl up
and burn the entire thing
L37[00:31:23] <gamax92> trying to find
where external monitors are rendering their section of the
texture
L38[00:31:30] <lperkins2> Heh, good
luck!
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L40[00:31:39] <gamax92> and if it is really
a bunch of 32x32 textures then how it splits it up
L41[00:32:50] <Kodos> I would assume x y
coords, screenbased >.>
L42[00:33:05] <Kodos> err not
screenbased
L43[00:33:10] <Kodos> But it keeps track of
what goes where
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L45[00:34:28] <lperkins2> func_148857_g is
client only, but via reflection I can grab the contents of the
field anyway,
L46[00:34:41] <lperkins2> Then create the
packet on the client and process it.
L47[00:35:22] <lperkins2> I'd just generate
the sync packets and send them, but I need to preserve the order of
stuff carefully or things may break, plus it's enough data that the
gzip compression is a good idea.
L48[00:35:37] <gamax92> ;_; why is it
(16*32)x(9*32)
L49[00:36:39] <lperkins2> Um, my guess is
the author didn't realise how colour depth works...
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L51[00:39:08] <PotatoTrumpet> o/\
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L53[00:46:56] <gamax92> lperkins2: oh yeah
did i mention the Draw Thread will occasionally crash?
L54[00:47:39] <lperkins2> I spotted that,
yes.
L55[00:50:17] <PotatoTrumpet> So, my mom
asked for my password to my computer
L56[00:50:20] <Sangar> i'm off o/
L57[00:50:24] <PotatoTrumpet> Night
Sangar
L58[00:50:32] <PotatoTrumpet> I gave her
the wrong password
L59[00:50:41] <PotatoTrumpet> damn
L60[00:50:45] <PotatoTrumpet> should have
said hunter2
L61[00:55:21] <Dashkal> You already remoted
in and encrypted your stash, right?
L62[00:56:11] <OP> Woot! The eeprom
init.elf loader actually works
L63[00:56:39] <OP> and init.elf says
hello!
L64[00:57:14] <OP> Sangar: before you
leave
L65[00:57:25] <OP> How do I get the CPU
tier from an Arch?
L66[00:57:30] <gamax92> he's gone.
L67[00:57:46] <OP>
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
L68[01:00:36] <Dashkal> I suspect you need
to do a component walk and hunt down the cpu
L69[01:01:13] <OP> I don't think the cpu
shows up as a component
L70[01:02:37] <Altenius> Gagh, wtf lua.
When I use lua_resume it errors with "Attempt to call a nil
value"
L71[01:03:43] <lperkins2> Okay, assuming
none of the packet handlers actually care about
NetworkManager...
L72[01:03:46] <lperkins2> it should be
working.
L73[01:04:58] *
lperkins2 goes to add reflection to actually have something other
than null to use...
L74[01:07:56] <gamax92> the cpu is not a
component .-.
L75[01:08:24] <Dashkal> huh
L76[01:08:31] <Dashkal> In that case, just
how do you tell?
L77[01:08:41] <Dashkal> Not in a position
to do a code walk right now
L78[01:09:50] <lperkins2>
MachineHost.callBudget
L79[01:09:57] <lperkins2> Gives the tier
indirectly.
L80[01:10:11] <lperkins2> (Default settings
-> 0.5 1.0 1.5 for tier 1-3)
L81[01:12:02] <Dashkal> Well, I can make
use of that. Can always just set my thunks/t to some multiple of
that value
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L84[01:12:50] <lperkins2> That would make
them respect server settings for letting CPUs be more
powerful.
L85[01:14:41] <Dashkal> I can handle that
for my arch, since it has a part that lends itself to it. And of
course OC proper handles component limits.
L86[01:15:21] <Dashkal> Still, I'd like to
be able to know the tier directly so I can make other decisions
based on it. If nothing else, I'd like to expose that information
to the VM as a system call.
L87[01:15:33] <gamax92> reflection?
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L89[01:15:43] <Dashkal> gamax92: Never my
first choice.
L90[01:15:51] <Dashkal> And OC is, well,
open. I'd PR.
L91[01:15:59] <Dashkal> Not assuming it
doesn't exist yet.
L92[01:16:46] <gamax92> I may and or may
not steal OC's screens and make them render pixels
L93[01:17:03] <lperkins2> Hm...
L94[01:17:25] <lperkins2> Hm, okay, well
everything but screens seems to work.
L95[01:22:54] <OP> OCDOC IS NOT
WORKING
L97[01:23:09] *
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L102[01:40:55] <Pwootage> OP: HOW DID YOU
SURVIVE?
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L104[01:47:35] <gamax92> ~w test
L106[01:47:39] <gamax92> ?
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L109[01:49:31] <Pwootage> ocd.cil.li
wasn't working for him, I assume
L110[01:49:44] <gamax92> oh that
L111[01:49:45] <SKS|Haiku> Yay for doing
repairs using Haiku..?
L112[01:50:21] <SKS|Haiku> Helping my
grandad, his Windows has died, so fsck.ntfs time
L113[01:54:02] <gamax92> "Differences
in successive calls that span greater than approximately 292 years
(263 nanoseconds) will not correctly compute elapsed time due to
numerical overflow."
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L115[02:07:36] <Zequan> Has anyone used
Plex?
L116[02:07:53] <SKS|Haiku> Isn't that the
currency in EVE Online?
L118[02:08:18] <Zequan> Got it running on
my Ubuntu box connected to my TB
L119[02:08:20] <Zequan> TV*
L120[02:08:50] <Zequan> Makes my video
library look all pretty with cover art and descriptions.
L121[02:09:45] *
SKS|Haiku has a multimedia box running haiku sitting under the
TV
L122[02:10:48] <Zequan> Plex is a fork of
XBMC/Haiku.
L123[02:11:14] <SKS|Haiku> progress!
2.2%
L124[02:11:31] <SKS|Haiku> 3.4%
L125[02:11:46] *
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fsck.ntfs
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L132[02:35:35] <Zequan> Use to <3
BeOS
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L134[02:36:33] <SKS|Haiku> Zequan: I
managed to install it on slightly-later-than-period hardware,
jealous?
L135[02:36:51] <SKS|Haiku> Dual Pentium
III 1.133Ghz >:D
L136[02:41:54] <Zequan> Nice
L137[02:42:02] <Zequan> But it supports
Core 2?
L138[02:43:43] <SKS|Haiku> ? C2D?
L139[02:44:04] <SKS|Haiku> I have a C2D
box
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L141[02:47:04] <SKS|Haiku> The issue is
the SATA controller.
L142[02:47:23] <SKS|Haiku> Sure, it's
rather similar to SCSI, but the issue is the unknown hardware
L143[02:48:19] <SKS|Haiku> I have Haiku on
a Pentium 4 HT 3Ghz, which is nice.
L144[02:49:24] <gamax92> isn't there an
api for mc that allows me to render arbitrary images in 3d
space?
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L146[02:52:10] <Pwootage> Hello!
L147[02:52:16] <gamax92> Pwootage:
halp
L148[02:52:26] <Pwootage> How can I halp
you?
L149[02:52:50] <gamax92> i could have
sworn there was some api that allowed me to easily render arbitrary
stuff
L150[02:53:04] <gamax92> without having to
go through opengl hell
L151[02:53:06] <Pwootage>
setChar()...?
L152[02:53:12] <gamax92> Pwootage:
???
L153[02:53:15] <Pwootage> oh in MC
L154[02:53:15] <Pwootage> uh
L155[02:53:33] <Pwootage> 1.8 has the
block models thing
L156[02:53:39] <gamax92> this is
1.7.10
L157[02:56:20] <Zequan> Someone take these
dreams away, that point me to another day. A duel of personalities,
that stretch all true realities. They keep calling me....
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L161[02:57:12] <Zequan> <3 Joy
Division
L162[02:58:40] <Pwootage> uh, has IC2
changed nuclear reactors again?
L163[02:58:46] <SKS|Haiku> boom
L164[03:05:12] <Keridos> is there a way to
copy floppy disks?
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L166[03:11:48] <gamax92> Ehrmagherd I only
take Doubles and Strings but I'll gladly give you Integers and
Characters
L167[03:12:33] <gamax92> ._.
L168[03:14:05] <gamax92> ;_; why are you
stopping now ;_;
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L171[03:22:03] <LordFokas> Has anyone here
ever used PKCS7 encryption in Java?
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L182[04:32:44] <Kodos> I'm baaaack
L183[04:32:49] <Kodos> And stuffed full of
lasagna and ice cream cake
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L193[04:39:25] <Xilandro> Lol, someone
jealous of my ice cream cake?
L194[04:39:28] <Xilandro> Or was there a
split
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L200[05:05:50] <gamax92> Pwootage:
:OOOO
L202[05:05:55] <gamax92> I DID IT
L203[05:06:01] <gamax92> I MADE A BLINKING
CURSOR
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L205[05:15:30] <Pwootage> uh
L206[05:15:47] <Pwootage> sorry i'm slow
but AWESOME (premptive, havn't clicked it yet)
L207[05:16:05] <Pwootage> aw yeah gj
gamax92
L208[05:16:11] <gamax92> :D
L209[05:16:27] <gamax92> now i just gotta
fix that.
L210[05:16:51] <gamax92> oh and [2J
didn't work.
L211[05:17:11] <gamax92> inb4 some shitty
irc client users goes "You cleared my screen! D:M"
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L218[05:51:34] <dangranos> hello
L219[05:51:56] <gamax92> ohai
L220[05:52:12] <SKS|ComputerRepair> A wild
dangranos appeared
L221[05:52:16] <gamax92> lperkins2: I've
added a cursor! :D
L222[05:53:09] <gamax92> I also fixed the
bug with dropping input characters, some various ansi sequences,
fixed the beep on boot, and added clipboard support
L223[05:54:20] <SKS|ComputerRepair>
*continues waiting for cp -r /mnt/Users /derp/Gateway/
L224[05:54:22] <SKS|ComputerRepair>
*
L225[05:54:47] <dangranos> this usb drive
(8gb) is so slow :(
L227[05:55:29] <SKS|ComputerRepair> USB
1.1, dangranos?
L228[05:55:44] <gamax92> USB ... 1.0?
:O
L229[05:56:16] <dangranos> maybe
L230[05:56:21] <dangranos> how do i check?
.-.
L231[05:56:30] <SKS|ComputerRepair> No
idea.
L232[05:56:37] <SKS|ComputerRepair> It'd
probably be 2.0, though.
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L234[05:56:42] <SKS|ComputerRepair> Got
any real indication of speed?
L235[05:57:20] <dangranos> not
really
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L237[06:02:47] <dangranos> even with
disabled history firefox is slow :(
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L239[06:04:18] <dangranos> can you
recommend any light browser that can into JS?
L240[06:04:27] <dangranos> *GUI
browser
L241[06:05:24] <SKS|ComputerRepair>
Iceweasel is based on FF 3.6
L242[06:05:26] <dangranos> it was
installing addons >_<
L243[06:05:44] <SKS|ComputerRepair> The JS
engine isn't amazing, but it exists
L244[06:07:21] <gamax92> netsurf
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L250[06:24:29] <SKS|ComputerRepair> Note
to self: When doing backups, use cp -rv
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L252[06:34:42] <gamax92> 10 PRINT
CHR$(7)
L253[06:34:42] <gamax92> 20 GOTO 10
L254[06:40:01] <polymetric> 10 PRINT
CHR$(K)
L255[06:40:10] <polymetric> 20 PRINT
CHR$(E)
L256[06:40:17] <polymetric> 30 PRINT
CHR$(K)
L257[06:40:21] <polymetric> 40 GOTO
10
L258[06:40:40] <SKS|ComputerRepair>
kek
L259[06:41:30] <gamax92> umm except
no?
L260[06:42:03] <SKS|ComputerRepair> 1
PRINT "K"
L261[06:42:03] <gamax92> polymetric: All
that'd do is print NUL
L262[06:42:09] <SKS|ComputerRepair> 2
PRINT "E"
L263[06:42:18] <polymetric> Ah damn
L264[06:42:20] <SKS|ComputerRepair> 3 GOTO
1
L265[06:42:24] <gamax92> keke?
L266[06:42:36] <SKS|ComputerRepair> no,
ke:rep(math.huge)
L267[06:42:50] <SKS|ComputerRepair> #lua
print(("ke"):rep(math.huge))
L268[06:42:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L269[06:42:55] *
gamax92 hits ^c after the second iteration
L270[06:42:59] <gamax92> keke
L271[06:43:10] <SKS|ComputerRepair> #lua
print(("ke"):rep(1e6))
L272[06:43:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Output:
Error getting data!
L273[06:43:17] <SKS|ComputerRepair> #lua
print(("ke"):rep(1e2))
L275[06:44:26] <gamax92> ahh crap, 0x9B is
also for ansi sequences
L276[06:44:29] <gamax92> brb adding to
terminal
L277[06:45:52] <gamax92> actually
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L294[07:58:24] <Rorax> hola
L295[07:59:00] <Rorax> I need a little
help. I have been playing with Open Computers and I am trying to
adapt from old CC ways of doing things to OC
L296[07:59:06] <Rorax> I have this here
reactor code
L298[07:59:13] <Rorax> for big reactors I
should clarify
L299[07:59:34] <Vexatos> What's
wrong?
L300[07:59:43] <Rorax> if you just take
the code that is in display() then the screen it shows on reads out
fine
L301[07:59:51] <Vexatos> You don't need to
require math, btw
L302[07:59:52] <Vexatos> it's native
L303[08:00:07] <Rorax> run the program
over and over and it will always be updated correctly
L304[08:00:34] <Vexatos>
require("math") is useless :P
L305[08:00:37] <Vexatos> brb,
breakfast
L306[08:00:45] <Rorax> heres the issue
though, ever since I have tried to get this thing running within a
loop energyStore reads the same amount every single pass
L307[08:00:53] <Rorax> okay thanks
;)
L308[08:00:56] <gamax92> Rorax: hmm
L309[08:01:06] <Rorax> I wasn't sure what
was or wasn't native so it was in there to be sure
L310[08:01:11] <Rorax> as I said, getting
used to the differences :P
L311[08:01:28] <Rorax> out of looping code
energyStore is fine
L312[08:01:37] <gamax92> Rorax: because
its only ever set once
L313[08:01:39] <Rorax> inside of looping
code. always the same answer so the bar never moves
L314[08:01:41] <gamax92> at the top of the
file
L315[08:02:38] <Rorax> what do you mean
set once? surely every time I call energyStore it is calling it
again fresh?
L316[08:02:44] <gamax92> nope.
L317[08:02:57] <gamax92> you aren't
calling energyStore either
L318[08:03:14] <gamax92> its a
number
L319[08:03:24] <Rorax> the result of using
the method is a number yes
L320[08:03:35] <Rorax> but I am calling
the method not the number surely?
L321[08:03:40] <Vexatos> Back
L322[08:03:42] <gamax92> yes
L323[08:03:44] <gamax92> at the top of the
file
L324[08:03:47] <gamax92> and only
then
L325[08:04:01] <Vexatos> ~w non
standard
L327[08:04:03] <gamax92> Rorax: I believe
what you want is inside the if statement in the loop or in the
display function(): "energyStore =
reactor.getEnergyStored()"
L328[08:04:04] <Vexatos> Rorax ^
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L330[08:04:08] <Vexatos> All the native
libs are there
L331[08:04:10] <Rorax> *head desk* I have
been durping ALL DAY
L332[08:04:17] <Rorax> I see what I have
done now. thank you
L333[08:04:22] <gamax92> :) you're
welcome
L334[08:04:37] <Vexatos> So, math, io,
bit32 etc are all the native ones
L335[08:04:46] <Rorax> kay :3
L336[08:04:57] <Rorax> I find it odd that
even isn't :P
L337[08:05:02] <Rorax> event*
L338[08:05:15] <gamax92> well, because you
wouldn't find event in standard lua
L339[08:05:16] <Vexatos> It's not
odd
L341[08:05:19] <gamax92> thats an
OpenComputers thing
L342[08:05:22] <Vexatos> There, standard
Lua
L343[08:05:40] <Vexatos> event is not
standard Lua, thus it's not native
L344[08:06:45] <Vexatos> Rorax, if you
want to know something, just use the bot in this channel :)
L345[08:06:47] *
gamax92 may or may not have fixed up a bunch of escape sequences in
his Terminal
L346[08:06:48] <Vexatos> ~w event
API
L348[08:10:14] <Rorax> ah well I
understand it isn't native to lua ;)
L349[08:10:24] <Rorax> but can't it be
native to OC :3 ?
L350[08:11:21] <Vexatos> The only
pseudo-native thing is the component API, and only in
Microcontrollers and drones
L351[08:11:33] <Vexatos> because those two
cannot require()
L352[08:11:45] <Vexatos> that API
L353[08:17:17] <Rorax> right
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L355[08:18:09] <Rorax> the other thing I
am not quite sure about is in a multi monitor setup (I.E 2 gpus)
how do you print text to the gpu controlled screen?
L356[08:18:20] <Rorax> as far as I can
tell the only thing close is fill?
L357[08:18:29] <Rorax> and thats char
only
L358[08:18:36] <gamax92> set can do
multiple characters
L359[08:18:52] <Rorax> I must have brushed
over set
L360[08:19:14] <gamax92> Vexatos: Did you
see I added a blinking cursor to my 6502?
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L362[08:19:29] <gamax92> so now you
actually know where the cursor is :P
L363[08:19:58] <Vexatos> Didn't look at
it
L364[08:20:00] <Rorax> well there it is. I
feel really stupid today :P why was today the day of all days that
I decided to try coming back to lua
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L377[09:07:33] <VivienVoid> ok, this is a
very stupid question, but I'm messing around with OC and
Lanteacraft and I'm not sure how exactly I "connect" the
stargate to the computer. Is it just laying some cable from the
computer to it?
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L379[09:07:58] <gamax92> I believe you
have to connect the stargate to the computer, with an adapter
between them
L380[09:11:44] <VivienVoid> I'll try,
thanks
L381[09:15:58] <VivienVoid> I'm trying to
install oppm and it says it file not found, is that a bug or
something I did wrong?
L382[09:16:26] <VivienVoid> I have a
creative computer case with openos floppy and oppm floppy in a disk
drive
L383[09:16:40] <VivienVoid> (I also have a
hard disk installed, and an internet card)
L384[09:26:37] <VivienVoid> OH, I had to
have openos installed to the hd
L385[09:30:55] <VivienVoid> And for some
reason now 'oppm list' doesn't list the program I want, even though
it says it checked the repository where I can see they are
available in github
L386[09:30:58] <VivienVoid> huh
L387[09:31:39] <VivienVoid> And here I
thought it would be easy since I know Linux
L388[09:32:08] <dangranos> do you have
internet card?
L389[09:32:20] <dangranos> nevermind
L390[09:32:53] <VivienVoid> Oh, god, I'm
so dumb
L391[09:33:18] <VivienVoid> I was
searching for the name of the folder in the list, instead of the
name of the lua script itself
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L394[09:39:10] <VivienVoid> Ok, this is
probably another stupid one, but: it says it requires an abstract
card. The wiki has a page on that card... but I can't see it
anywhere in nei
L395[09:39:17] <VivienVoid> *abstract
bus
L396[09:39:48] <VivienVoid> Oh, I think I
downloaded the wrong program
L397[09:40:06] <VivienVoid> It says it's
for StargateTech, I'm using lanteacraft... huh
L398[09:53:30] <VivienVoid> Ok, I'm
looking around and I can't see anything that leads me to believe
'oppm list' isn't supposed to list everything in the repos, so,
probably a bug
L399[09:53:46] <VivienVoid> I'm not sure
if this is the right place to ask about oppm though, so if it
isn't, where can I ask?
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L405[10:07:49] <VivienVoid> It seems it
has something to do with the code wanting a programs.cfg file in
the repo and some repos have programs.yaml instead
L406[10:17:11] <Kilobyte> VivienVoid:
should be right here
L407[10:17:27] <Kilobyte> VivienVoid: they
probably generate the .cfg from it somehow, idk
L408[10:17:40] <Kilobyte> VivienVoid: can
you give an example?
L409[10:20:48] <gamax92> why am i awake
right now .-.
L410[10:20:56] <gamax92> i don't feel the
least bit sleepy.
L411[10:21:01] <dangranos> trying vim
addon for firefox
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L414[10:33:01] <lperkins2> Hm, well it
seems to be working, except that it keeps missing the tile entity's
coords
L416[10:33:48] <gamax92> Hi
lperkins2
L417[10:34:02] <VivienVoid> I searched for
almost all of those names and found none
L418[10:34:05] <lperkins2> Hi
L419[10:34:07] <lperkins2> What's
up?
L420[10:34:28] <gamax92> lperkins2: I
added color support to my terminal :3
L421[10:34:32] <Kilobyte> VivienVoid: no
clue
L422[10:34:44] <VivienVoid> I think there
are some other repositories which are missing, but I'm not
completely sure (can't remember which specific ones I
checked)
L423[10:34:53] <VivienVoid> does it show
up for you, Kilobyte?
L424[10:34:53] <gamax92> PRINT
CHR$(155)+"0;5;35;43"+CHR$(109)
L425[10:35:12] <Kilobyte> VivienVoid: it
might use something custom
L426[10:35:14] <Kilobyte> and not
oppm
L427[10:35:29] <gamax92> that should be
purple on yellow
L428[10:35:30] <Kilobyte> because last
time i checked, oppm only worked with programs.cfg
L429[10:36:13] <Kilobyte> VivienVoid:
especially since that doesn't even remotely look like oppm
stuff
L430[10:36:41] <VivienVoid> Kilobyte,
weird.. cause it is in the openprograms repository along with the
other stuff
L431[10:37:26] <VivienVoid> I wondered if
maybe there is some other program that I need to even be able to
read that repo, but reading through the programs list and
description, I found nothing that fit the bill
L432[10:37:34] <gamax92> oppm only works
with programs.cfg
L433[10:37:49] <gamax92> nah see, we used
to use the yaml
L434[10:37:52] <gamax92> but then
cfg
L435[10:39:27] <VivienVoid> I considered
the possibility that Kenny's was simply an outdated repo...
however, latest commit is from 22 days and the oldest one is just
from 10 months ago
L436[10:39:47] <gamax92> I'll remind
vexatos to update that
L437[10:40:21] <VivienVoid> I did notice
that at least one other repo had an yaml file, but it also had a
cfg one
L438[10:40:23] <Kilobyte> imo oppm still
lacks features, mainly versioning
L439[10:40:42] <lperkins2> Nice.
L440[10:40:53] <Kilobyte> so it has issues
detecting if i update a package
L441[10:41:01] <Kilobyte> making full
system updates a pain
L442[10:41:26] <gamax92> Kilobyte: wait
doesn't your bot have a tell?
L443[10:41:36] <Kilobyte> yup
L444[10:41:39] <VivienVoid> Ok, so that
mystery solved... what would be the easiest way to install
something from Kenny's repo?
L445[10:41:42] <Kilobyte> #tell gamax92
hi
L446[10:42:01] <gamax92> #tell Vexatos Can
you update the package.yaml in Kenny's repo to a package.cfg?
L447[10:42:42] <Kilobyte> fun fact, that
file isn't even proper yaml
L448[10:42:52] <gamax92> oh? ... lol
L449[10:43:05] <Kilobyte> either you
define a list:
L450[10:43:09] <Kilobyte> name:
L451[10:43:10] <Kilobyte> - item
L452[10:43:12] <Kilobyte> - item
L453[10:43:17] <Kilobyte> or a map:
L454[10:43:18] <Kilobyte> name:
L455[10:43:25] <Kilobyte> key1:
value1
L456[10:43:29] <Kilobyte> key2:
value2
L457[10:43:48] <gamax92> it looks like the
list one then.
L458[10:44:04] <Kilobyte> he forgot the -s
then
L459[10:44:09] <dangranos> lol, found on
internet 'Programs can be "Free*" and
"Free"'
L460[10:44:14] <Kilobyte> you need a -
before each tem
L461[10:45:25] <VivienVoid> I think I'll
just lurk here until Vexatos shows up, then, and ask them
L462[10:45:36] <VivienVoid> Thanks a lot
for the help, folks
L463[10:45:49] <lperkins2> Well, other
than the shipCoordsToWorldCoords stuff not working right, this
seems to be working...
L464[10:46:39] <gamax92> lperkins2: oh btw
i ended up not using a timer, since i had to make sure the cursor
didn't try to activate in the middle of a control sequence
L465[10:48:37] <gamax92> which i have many
of now :3
L466[10:49:08] <gamax92> ABCDEFGHJKm
L467[10:49:33] <gamax92> I still have
LMPSTX to implement
L468[10:56:57] <lperkins2> Yeah, good
idea.
L469[10:58:18] <lperkins2> Anyway,
night!
L470[10:58:37] <Kilobyte> ah, the fun of
time zones
L471[10:58:46] <gamax92> its 4am here
.-.
L472[10:59:04] <Kilobyte> 12 pm here
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L477[11:12:13] <ninsaburo> Good
Morning
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L486[11:45:22] <Sangar> o/
L487[11:48:57] <dangranos> hmm, i am
starting to think that pulseaudio is not that bad as they
said
L488[11:49:02] <dangranos> it doesnt
crash
L489[11:49:21] <Kilobyte> Sangar: o/
L490[11:54:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh cool,
NASA's stream is more or less always on
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L492[12:02:55] <gamax92> ohai Sangar
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L496[12:34:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool,
skex-BIOS now has native commands to write the buffer to the EEPROM
and vice-versa
L497[12:34:47] <dangranos> rewriting
skex?
L498[12:35:39] <gamax92> oh, the k is a
typo ofc.
L499[12:38:00] <ShadowKatStudios>
dangranos: Before, you had to run a one-liner in the interactive
prompt
L500[12:38:54] <dangranos> can anyone help
me with pulseaudio?
L501[12:38:58] <gamax92> now i actually
feel tired.
L502[12:39:02] <gamax92> it took 5am to
feel tired.
L503[12:39:34] <Magik6k> dangranos,
?
L504[12:40:19] <dangranos> i want to
output microphone and audio player to source
L505[12:40:37] <Magik6k> do you have
pavucontron installed?
L506[12:40:44] <dangranos> yep
L507[12:40:46] <Magik6k>
*spotify:user:1132213029:playlist:4JxQQKx6aWfFJx474C5dRd
L508[12:40:48] <Magik6k> .
L509[12:40:50] <Magik6k>
*pavucontrol
L510[12:41:31] <Magik6k> ohwait, by source
you mean input of another program?
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L512[12:41:36] <dangranos> yes
L513[12:41:37] <ShadowKatStudios>
yay
L514[12:41:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Drones
and cameras
L515[12:41:40] <ShadowKatStudios> So I can
now map rooms
L516[12:41:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Using a
drone.
L517[12:41:47] <dangranos> like
microphones or monitors
L518[12:41:51] <Magik6k> I think I did it
somehow for teamspeak
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L521[12:43:06] <dangranos> combine-sink
doesnt want to output to null
L522[12:43:16] <Magik6k> hmm
L523[12:43:43] <Magik6k> try using the
pavucontrol is you don't use it already
L524[12:43:46] <dangranos> and i want to
still hear audio
L525[12:44:42] <gamax92> ohai monitor
tearing line
L526[12:44:50] <gamax92> how you happen to
resize right in the middle of my screen
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L528[12:46:08] <dangranos> looks like i
will need 3 loops and 2 nulls
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L530[12:46:59] <Magik6k> pacmd
list-sinks
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L532[12:47:05] <Magik6k> eww, wronk
window
L533[12:47:23] <dangranos> is it?
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L535[12:48:12] <Magik6k> I wanded to paste
the abowe to terminal, but by default in gnome 3.14 everything
looks the same../
L536[12:48:50] <Magik6k> +can't keyboard
today
L537[12:49:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay, so
the distance function in the Computronics camera doesn't work with
drones, I assume due to the lack of a front, but distanceDown works
fine.
L538[12:49:57] <g> hm, yeah, drones don't
have a front..
L539[12:50:07] <g> that would be a useful
thing for a drone to use, though
L540[12:51:10] <ShadowKatStudios>
Indeed.
L541[12:51:28] <g> I still think a way to
find the absolute coords of a robot/drone would be useful
L542[12:51:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyone
got any idea the maximum and minimum values for
distanceUp/distanceDown?
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L544[12:51:51] <gamax92> okay night.
L545[12:51:57] <g> okay afternoon
L546[12:52:00] <gamax92> even though its
almost 6am here
L547[12:52:06] <g> oh, right, that's what
you meant
L549[12:52:08] <g> see you later o/
L550[12:52:14] <gamax92> oh hey
gdude
L551[12:52:19] <g> Hey hey
L552[12:52:19] <gamax92> progress on bug
fix: 0%
L554[12:52:24] <ShadowKatStudios> -1, 1
apparently
L555[12:52:26] <g> take your time
L556[12:52:32] <dangranos> now, how the
hell do i save it?
L557[12:52:40] <gamax92> instead, i added
features to OCSymon
L558[12:52:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Night
gamax92
L559[12:52:53] <gamax92> its another
/great/ mod of mine you should totally check it out gdude
L560[12:52:55] <gamax92> anyway
sleep
L561[12:53:02] <g> totally planning to
anyway, mod updates today
L563[12:53:15] <gamax92> also
polygons
L564[12:57:26] <dangranos> can we run
linux on it?
L565[12:57:57] <g> if you can fit it on
32k of RAM / 16k of ROM, I guess
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L568[12:59:16] <g> looks to be for
wirelessly binding GPUs/screens
L569[12:59:34] <g> along with other debug
stuff
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L576[13:32:14] <Magik6k> ~w term
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L581[13:44:04] <Magik6k> Sangar u
here?
L582[13:44:42] <Sangar> Magik6k, yes
L583[13:45:17] <Magik6k> Why term.read
adds \n at end?(Ie I konw it's in code byt why?)
L584[13:46:59] <Magik6k> +when term has
match parameter(ethier string or function) should read return
entire text ot only matched part(and/or should it require that
entire text should match)?
L585[13:47:16] <Sangar> because it behaves
that way for me in normal lua (i.e. io:read("*L") has a
\n at the end)
L586[13:47:17] <Magik6k> s/ot/or
L587[13:47:17] <Kibibyte> <Magik6k>
+when term has match parameter(ethier string or function) should
read return entire text or only matched part(and/or should it
require that entire text should match)?
L588[13:47:27] <Magik6k> ah
L589[13:48:24] <Sangar> hrm, if it has a
filter i'd say it should limit the inputs based on that and return
everything?
L590[13:49:22] <Magik6k> so entire text
would have to match?
L591[13:50:37] <Magik6k> .l
=("abcd"):match("$$a^^")
L592[13:50:38] <^v> Magik6k, lua:1:
unexpected symbol near '='
L593[13:50:41] <Magik6k> .l
("abcd"):match("$$a^^")
L594[13:50:42] <^v> Magik6k, nil
L595[13:50:50] <Magik6k> .l
("a"):match("$$a^^")
L596[13:50:50] <^v> Magik6k, nil
L597[13:50:57] <Magik6k> .l
("a"):match("$a^")
L598[13:50:57] <^v> Magik6k, nil
L599[13:51:16] <Magik6k> ohwait
L600[13:51:22] <Magik6k> .l
("a"):match("^a$")
L601[13:51:22] <^v> Magik6k, a
L602[13:51:27] <Magik6k> .l
("a"):match("^^a$$")
L603[13:51:28] <^v> Magik6k, nil
L604[13:51:33] <Sangar> depends on the
filter
L605[13:51:44] <Sangar> well
L606[13:51:53] <Sangar> it'd have to
match, yes, but you could have wildcards, so
L607[13:53:22] <Magik6k> or maybe just add
an argument that'd decide whether to return match result or entire
string, defaulting to entire string
L608[13:53:31] <Sangar> and if it doesn't
match you either couldn't confirm / return, or return nil... dunno
which'd be better
L610[13:53:55] <Sangar> nah, for that you
could just match an unfiltered input yourself
L611[13:54:05] <dangranos> around 100
light minutes it gets more philosophical
L612[13:54:24] <Magik6k> Sangar, for now
it doesn't allow to confirm and it seems legit
L613[13:54:32] <Magik6k> and yeah
true
L614[13:55:05] <Sangar> cool, if that
works then i'd say keep that
L615[13:55:45] <Sangar> if you want to be
superfancy, flash the prompt to signal an error, or emit a beep or
both :P
L616[13:56:17] <Magik6k> ohh, good point
;p
L617[13:56:26] <Magik6k> ~w computer
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L622[14:11:48] <Magik6k> Sangar, beep
seems kinda broken
L623[14:12:15] <Sangar> lies
L624[14:12:16] <Magik6k> I.e. some
frequencies next(5-10hz) from others are unhearable
L625[14:12:43] <Sangar> well, 5-10 are
outside the supported 20-2000 range, so yeah :P
L626[14:13:20] <Magik6k> I mean 650 vs
660
L627[14:13:23] <Magik6k> Hz
L628[14:13:46] <Magik6k> or 990 -
1000
L629[14:15:33] <Magik6k> try running for
i=0, 40 do computer.beep(800+(i*20),0.05)end
L631[14:16:33] <g> This is on joining a
single-player world
L632[14:18:08] * g
pokes Sangar gingerly
L633[14:19:20] <g> no idea what a
PetRenderer is
L634[14:19:38] <g> looks like a feature
only for "entitled players" though
L635[14:20:37] <Sangar> uhhh, interesting.
seems the player may not be set when that's called? o.O will add a
null check...
L636[14:20:43] <Sangar> Magik6k, idk
L637[14:20:58] <g> it's weird, I updated
some other mods and now I'm getting this
L638[14:21:07] <g> I'm not sure this is
actually what's crashing me but it seems to be
L639[14:21:31] <Magik6k> also 2000hz
sounds much the same as 1000hz for me
L640[14:21:49] <Ender> try taking mods out
till you find what's causing it (or try with just OC at first then
add the mods back in one by one)
L641[14:22:28] <g> yeah, I've been
removing the mods I added
L642[14:22:42] <g> that's why it's weird,
lol
L643[14:22:53] <Sangar> Magik6k, must be
your speakers :P it's definitely higher pitched for me
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L645[14:23:11] <Sangar> brb
L646[14:23:21] <Magik6k> dunno
L647[14:23:24] <g> I updated chisel,
OCLights, MassSound..
L648[14:23:29] <g> maybe it's masssound?
._.
L649[14:33:50] <g> nope..
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L656[14:40:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I should
totally make my EEPROM thingy mount the drone's tempfs
L657[14:40:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Or
possibly just map fs to the only filesystem component
L658[14:41:44] <g> drones have a
tempfs?
L659[14:42:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yep.
L660[14:42:20] <ShadowKatStudios> All
computers have a 64KiB tempfs
L661[14:42:47] <g> uh.. how many bytes to
a KiB again?
L662[14:42:53] <ShadowKatStudios>
1024
L663[14:42:57] <g> ah, okay
L664[14:43:02] <g> well that's.. that
would be useful
L665[14:43:10] <ShadowKatStudios> With
some hackery, you could probably boot micrOS from the tempfs
L666[14:43:17] <ShadowKatStudios> if you
rewrote the term I/O, of course
L667[14:43:24] <g> I just want to put a
json lib on the drones
L668[14:43:42] <ShadowKatStudios> They
don't persist after cold start
L669[14:43:57] <g> well yeah, but I could
give it a net card and download it?
L670[14:44:04] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yep.
L673[14:45:24] <ShadowKatStudios> (Yes,
print is defined)
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L676[14:46:47] <ShadowKatStudios>
Apparently drones don't recieve chat.
L677[14:46:47]
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L678[14:47:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Vexatos:
Computronics problem: Drones don't recieve chat events.
L679[14:49:01] <Vexatos> I don't really
care right now
L680[14:49:06] <g> alright, I fixed
it
L681[14:49:18] <Vexatos> @ gamax92: No, I
can not because Kenny doesn't want me to
L682[14:49:20] <g> Sangar, the error I
gave you is probably to do with the server shutting down when that
method is called
L683[14:49:37] <g> it turns out that
shipping configs in a modpack can actually entirely break the
client for no reason at all
L684[14:49:53] <Caitlyn> o_O
L685[14:50:05] <Vexatos> SKS: Does the
chat upgrade work in drones?
L686[14:50:16] <Vexatos> (The
speaking=
L687[14:50:17] <Vexatos> )
L688[14:50:17] <ShadowKatStudios> I can
output with it.
L689[14:50:17] <Sangar> gdude, huh, ok. at
least that makes it feel less hacky to just add a null check :P
will do that in a bit
L692[14:50:51] <Vexatos> I am surprise it
works at all
L693[14:50:52] <ShadowKatStudios> (print
is provided by the BIOS)
L694[14:51:01] <Vexatos> does .say
work?
L695[14:51:05] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yeah.
L696[14:51:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Also the
camera works
L697[14:51:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Not
.distance, but .distanceUp and .distanceDown
L698[14:52:01] <Vexatos> Tell asie to fix
that
L699[14:52:06] <Vexatos> not touching
camera code
L700[14:52:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Lack of
.distance makes perfect sense
L701[14:52:21] <dangranos> Vexatos,
why?
L702[14:52:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Drones
have no front
L703[14:52:26] <Vexatos> Ah
L704[14:52:30] <Vexatos> that makes sense
then
L705[14:52:39] <g> should really have
methods to check the cardinal directions though?
L706[14:52:41] <Vexatos> Don't know how I
did it
L707[14:52:44] <g> seems like it'd be
useful
L708[14:52:53] <Vexatos> Some time I added
compat to entities when the tablet was made
L709[14:52:56] <g> just for drones,
though
L710[14:52:58] <Vexatos> never tested with
drones
L711[14:53:04] <Vexatos> g: No
L712[14:53:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Also,
Vexatos, would you happen to know what the viewing angle of cameras
is?
L713[14:53:18] <g> Vexatos: D:
L714[14:53:21] <Vexatos> SKS: What do you
mean?
L715[14:53:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Can I
detect a block adjacent to a drone using detectUp or
detectDown?
L716[14:53:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Like, to
the north or south or whatever
L717[14:53:46] <Vexatos> No
L718[14:53:51] <Vexatos> I don't think
so
L719[14:53:53] <Vexatos> never
tested
L720[14:54:06] <g> say, drones can have
inventories, right?
L721[14:54:13] <Vexatos> Yes
L722[14:54:13] <ShadowKatStudios> 8
slots
L723[14:54:14] <g> does that mean they can
do .swing() and stuff like that?
L724[14:54:23] <Vexatos> They cannot
equip
L725[14:54:25] <ShadowKatStudios> No, no
block interaction, I believe
L726[14:54:30] <g> alright, that's what I
thought
L727[14:55:46] <Vexatos> SKS: Can tablets
receive chat events?
L728[14:55:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Dunno,
I'll test
L729[14:56:27] <Vexatos> Also, can
tablets/drones send chat messages?
L730[14:56:37] <ShadowKatStudios>
YES.
L731[14:56:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
drones can.
L732[14:58:23] <dangranos> Saturn
L733[14:58:23] <dangranos> Titan
L734[14:58:23] <dangranos> Uranus
L735[14:58:23] <dangranos> Neptune
L736[14:58:23] <dangranos> Pluto
L737[14:58:23] <Vexatos> Go test a tablet,
please
L738[14:58:24] <dangranos> (we still love
you)
L739[14:58:26] <dangranos> That was about
10 million km (6,213,710 mi) just now.
L740[14:58:28] <dangranos> Pretty empty
out here.
L741[14:58:30] <dangranos> Here comes our
first planet...
L742[14:58:32] <dangranos> As it turns
out, things are pretty far apart.
L743[14:58:34] <dangranos> We’ll be coming
up on a new planet soon. Sit tight.
L744[14:58:36] <dangranos> Most of space
is just space.
L745[14:58:37] <Vexatos> dangranos,
please
L746[14:58:38] <dangranos> Halfway
home.
L747[14:58:41] <Vexatos> :/
L748[14:58:42] <dangranos> Destination:
Mars!
L749[14:58:44] <dangranos> It would take
about seven months to travel this distance in a spaceship. Better
be some good in-flight entertainment. In case you're wondering,
you'd need about 2000 feature-length movies to occupy that many
waking hours.
L750[14:58:47] <dangranos> Sit back and
relax. Jupiter is more than 3 times as far as we just
traveled.
L751[14:58:49] <Caitlyn> ....
L752[14:58:49] <dangranos> When are we
gonna be there?
L753[14:58:50] <Vexatos> Sangar,
HELP
L754[14:58:51] <dangranos> Seriously. When
are we gonna be there?
L755[14:58:53] <dangranos> This is where
we might at least see some asteroids to wake us up. Too bad they're
all too small to appear on this map.
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L757[14:58:57] <Caitlyn> !quiet
DaeDroug
L758[14:58:57] <Vexatos> Or that
L759[14:58:57] *** zsh sets mode: +q
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L760[14:59:02] <Caitlyn> !unquiet
DaeDroug
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*!*@id-22591.highgate.irccloud.com
L762[14:59:06] <Caitlyn> lol...
L763[14:59:07] <Vexatos> that tab
autocomplete
L764[14:59:11] <Caitlyn> missed him by
THAT much
L765[15:00:21] <Sangar> i'm too slow for
irc >_>
L766[15:00:22] <Caitlyn> Also.. no one saw
that
L767[15:00:32] <Caitlyn> <_<
>_>
L768[15:01:15] <Ender> Vexatos: tablets
can do chat the same as a chat box for a standard computer
L769[15:01:33] <Vexatos> Ender, no
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L772[15:01:42] <Ender> Vexatos: they did
the last time i checked
L773[15:01:44] <Vexatos> I need SKS to
test whether .say and chat events work for that
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L775[15:02:06] <dangranos> sorry
L776[15:03:54] <Caitlyn> wb.. lol
L777[15:04:10] <Caitlyn> I quieted a
totally innocent person because of you! :P
L778[15:04:22] <ShadowKatStudios> How dare
you, dangranos!?
L779[15:05:08] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L780[15:06:39] <dangranos> is there
anti-spam but from client?
L781[15:06:44] <Vexatos> Sangar, is there
any way to get if a player is holding a tablet?
L782[15:06:51] <Vexatos> SKS: Did you test
yet?
L783[15:07:03] <Vexatos> i.e. if there is
a tablet in the inventory
L784[15:07:04] <ShadowKatStudios> had to
rebuild my tablet
L785[15:07:07] <ShadowKatStudios> forgot
the keyboard
L786[15:07:18] <Sangar> Vexatos,
internal.Tablet.player()
L787[15:07:20] <Vexatos> without having to
iterate through the entire inventory
L788[15:07:26] <Vexatos> Sangar: From a
player
L789[15:07:33] <Vexatos> I have a list of
all players
L790[15:07:34] <Sangar> oh, misread
that
L791[15:07:51] <Vexatos> and want to get
all the tablets of all these players
L792[15:07:55] <Vexatos> to send them chat
events
L793[15:07:57] <Sangar> no, you'll have to
iterate the inventory for that :/
L794[15:08:03] <Vexatos> Crap
L795[15:08:10] <Vexatos> Well, no chat
events for tablets then, I guess
L796[15:08:16] <Vexatos> Because that's
far too laggy
L797[15:08:17] <Sangar> and that'll only
give you the stack, too, not the component, soooo
L798[15:08:38] <Vexatos> Sangar, NBT data
hax
L799[15:08:54] <Sangar> not good enough
:P
L800[15:08:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Tablets
get no chat events
L801[15:09:06] <Sangar> but you could emit
a wireless network message
L802[15:09:13] <Sangar> with the chat
message
L803[15:09:16] <ShadowKatStudios> but .say
works
L804[15:09:21] <Vexatos> Sangar, how do
your events work with tablets?
L805[15:09:30] <Sangar> which
events?
L806[15:10:12] <Vexatos> Is there no
external event
L807[15:10:14] <Vexatos> in OC
L808[15:10:16] <Vexatos> :/
L809[15:10:36] <asie> Vexatos: here's how
you do it
L810[15:10:38] <Sangar> for what?
L811[15:10:47] <asie> grab the network
UUID from the tablet's NBT
L812[15:10:51] <asie> use that UUID to
grab the component
L813[15:10:53] <asie> boom
L814[15:11:03] <Vexatos> boom ->
massive lag everytime someone sais something in chat
L815[15:11:04] <Sangar> grab from where?
:P
L816[15:11:11] <asie> Vexatos: no, only if
everyone has a tablet
L817[15:11:15] <asie> Sangar: the tablet
stack's NBT data
L818[15:11:18] <Sangar> there's no central
uuid->component map
L819[15:11:25] <asie> no?
L820[15:11:27] <Sangar> no
L821[15:11:28] <asie> then how do tablets
do it?
L822[15:11:41] <Sangar> they have their
own little local network
L823[15:11:46] <Sangar> much like robots
have an internal one
L824[15:11:49] <Sangar> and
microcontrollers
L825[15:11:50] <Vexatos> Well, At least I
can make drones support it
L826[15:11:55] <Vexatos> because I can
just check for internal.Drone
L827[15:11:57] <Sangar> and drones
:X
L828[15:12:06] <Sangar> yeah
L829[15:12:09] <asie> Vexatos: worst-case
you can do it the other way around
L830[15:12:13] <asie> iterate through all
running tablets
L831[15:12:19] <Vexatos> Hell no
L832[15:12:24] <Vexatos> I'll just not do
it
L833[15:12:43] <Vexatos> also, is there a
list of running tablets anywhere?
L834[15:12:45] <Vexatos> I doubt
that
L835[15:12:54] <asie> i'm sure there has
to be one for all running lua environments
L836[15:12:56] <asie> just for sanity's
sake
L837[15:13:37] <Sangar> i did consider
using the component registry (that's currently only used for
screens, because i need to track those dynamically) for everything;
but then i'd have to be way more wary of cloned addresses (via
creative mode). didn't have the motivation to tackle that yet
:P
L838[15:13:52] <asie> via creative mode or
worldedit*
L839[15:13:57] <Sangar> yeah
L840[15:14:24] <Sangar> well for tablets
there is a map keeping track of the envs, but there's no api for
it
L841[15:14:51] <asie> reflection~
L842[15:15:25] <Vexatos> asie: Let's just
not do it
L843[15:15:26] <Sangar> that or linking
against the full mod, yeah
L844[15:15:27] <Vexatos> not worth
L845[15:15:52] <ShadowKatStudios> tl;dr no
chat in drones?
L846[15:15:52] <Magik6k> Sangar, did the
PR
L848[15:16:08] <asie> ShadowKatStudios:
chat in drones Y
L849[15:16:11] <asie> chat in tablets
N/N
L850[15:16:17] <ShadowKatStudios>
Ah.
L851[15:16:20] <ShadowKatStudios> I
see.
L852[15:16:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Fair
enough
L853[15:16:48] <ShadowKatStudios> That
reminds me, I need to re-write my CSS
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L855[15:17:33] <ShadowKatStudios> yay for
tmux
L856[15:19:48] <Sangar> Magik6k, looks
good, will test in a bit
L857[15:20:25] <Vexatos> asie: Uhm, should
I use getEntitiesWithinAABB to get all the drones?
L858[15:20:45] <asie> Vexatos: Oh no
L861[15:20:58] <asie> That's going to be
slow if you dare run it on a 128x128x128 area
L862[15:21:11] <Vexatos>
player.worldObj.getEntitiesWithinAABB(Drone.class,
L863[15:21:11] <Vexatos>
AxisAlignedBB.getBoundingBox(
L864[15:21:11] <Vexatos> player.posX -
Config.CHATBOX_DISTANCE,
L865[15:21:11] <Vexatos> player.posY -
Config.CHATBOX_DISTANCE,
L866[15:21:11] <Vexatos> player.posZ -
Config.CHATBOX_DISTANCE,
L867[15:21:12] <Vexatos> player.posX +
Config.CHATBOX_DISTANCE,
L868[15:21:13] <Vexatos> player.posY +
Config.CHATBOX_DISTANCE,
L869[15:21:15] <Vexatos> player.posZ +
Config.CHATBOX_DISTANCE));
L870[15:21:17] <Vexatos> That was my plan,
any better idea?
L871[15:21:19] <asie> WHAT
L872[15:21:25] <asie> Vexatos: Poke Sangar
to add sane iteration APIs
L873[15:21:35] <Vexatos> any /better/
idea
L874[15:21:57] <Vexatos> asie: You are
using event.player.worldObj.loadedTileEntityList for TEs
L875[15:22:00] <asie> ...
L876[15:22:03] <asie> ...
L877[15:22:06] <Vexatos> why not use the
entity list for entities?
L878[15:22:08] <asie> you've got a
point
L879[15:22:10] <asie> do it
L880[15:22:14] <Sangar> lel
L881[15:22:19] <Vexatos>
player.worldObj.getLoadedEntityList()
L882[15:22:28] <Vexatos> Is that faster
than entitieswithinAABB?
L883[15:22:30] <asie> Vexatos: in that
case the AABB would actually be faster
L884[15:22:32] <asie> indeed
L885[15:22:38] <Vexatos> So what
L886[15:22:42] <Vexatos> what of both is
faster
L887[15:22:45] <asie> AABB
L888[15:22:47] <Vexatos> Ok
L889[15:27:31] <Vexatos> SANGAR
L890[15:27:39] <Vexatos> why don't drones
have getComponentInSlot
L891[15:28:42] <Sangar> because
reasons?
L892[15:28:50] <Sangar> what component do
you want to access?
L893[15:29:00] <Vexatos> Also no
getSizeInventory()
L894[15:29:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, the chat
upgrade
L895[15:29:13] <Sangar> ah
L896[15:29:14] <Sangar> wait
L897[15:29:17] <Sangar> wait wait
wait
L898[15:29:19] <Sangar> wait
L899[15:29:32] <Sangar> why don't you just
create your own global map of active chat upgrades?
L900[15:29:51] <Sangar> or set. or list.
lookup thinger.
L901[15:30:19] <Vexatos> Why should I if I
can use the methods inside a robot
L902[15:30:50] <Sangar> because you can
then just iterate that list in your chat event handler, instead of
iterating over *all* tile entities and *all* entities in
range?
L903[15:31:39] <Vexatos> Then I'd iterate
through *ALL* chat box upgrades on the entire server
L904[15:31:56] <Vexatos> Also, how would I
add/remove to/from that list
L905[15:32:04] <Vexatos> and how would I
keep that persistent?
L906[15:32:14] <Sangar> yes. but that's
most likely <<<< #active tile entities on server
L907[15:32:30] <Sangar> and you'd add to
it in onConnect and remove in onDisconnect
L908[15:32:50] <Sangar> no need for
explicit persistence there
L909[15:33:04] <Vexatos> So have a global
ArrayList or something?
L910[15:33:08] <Sangar> yes
L911[15:33:10] <Vexatos> Now I need some
IChatBox interface
L912[15:33:23] <Vexatos> because both the
chat box block and the chat box upgrade need that :/
L913[15:33:27] <Sangar> if you want to be
superfance use some spatial index (treemap or what it was called,
the java builtin thinger?)
L914[15:33:30] <Sangar> *fancy
L915[15:34:44] <Sangar> that or use
something like java.util.concurrent.Callable
L916[15:34:58] <Sangar> (not that because
that doesn't take parameters)
L917[15:35:04] <asie> Vexatos: you're
forgetting but one thing, though
L918[15:35:09] <Sangar> (i thought it did,
but it doesnt)
L919[15:35:09] <asie> you still need to
iterate through all chat boxes for CC
L920[15:35:17] <Vexatos> Ah, right
L921[15:35:19] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L922[15:35:20] <asie> actually
L923[15:35:23] <asie> i'll just do the
code for you
L924[15:35:25] <Sangar> doesn't cc have
attach or such
L925[15:35:28] <asie> commit what you
have
L926[15:35:29] <Vexatos> it does
L927[15:35:30] <asie> i'll do what has to
be done
L928[15:35:34] <Sangar> i.e. equivalents
to onConnect/onDisconnect
L929[15:35:38] <Vexatos> It does
L930[15:35:38] <Sangar> well then
L931[15:35:50] <Vexatos> asie: I already
deleted all the entity iteration code
L932[15:35:54] <asie> Vexatos: but i'm
afraid i need libs/ and run/mods/ again
L933[15:35:56] <asie> also
L934[15:35:58] <asie> that is fine
L935[15:36:04] <asie> also
L936[15:36:08] <asie> just push the libs/
and run/mods/ into the repo
L937[15:36:13] <Vexatos> Well, then I
don't have anything to commit
L938[15:36:13] <asie> or add a script to
autodownload them
L939[15:36:16] <Vexatos> And I won't do
that
L940[15:36:16] <asie> or something
L941[15:36:23] <Vexatos> I'll puush send
you the files, asie
L942[15:36:25] <asie> i want reproducible
dev environments
L943[15:36:25] <Vexatos> hold on
L944[15:36:27] <asie> not this mess
L945[15:36:31] <Vexatos> Yea
L946[15:37:07] <Vexatos> Let me push, make
a .zip of all the /libs and eclipse/mods
L947[15:37:07] <Sangar> feel free to steal
from my build.gradle :P
L948[15:38:14] <Vexatos> Okay, asie, off
to #computronics
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L956[15:54:48] <Magik6k> .p
L957[15:54:50] <^v> Ping reply from
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L959[16:01:56] <dangranos_> huh, yaourt
added "unsupported package" blinking text?
L960[16:04:48] <Kasen> ShadowKatStudios,
as a professional web developer, i leave most cross-platform CSS
issues to things like bootstrap :P
L961[16:05:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Kasen: I
poached a Stylish theme for firefox.
L962[16:05:13] <ShadowKatStudios> It
didn't work well.
L963[16:05:23] <ShadowKatStudios> So I'm
just copying stuff like colours now
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L973[16:32:53] <Vexatos> SKS: What's that
font
L974[16:33:10] <ShadowKatStudios>
Monospace..?
L975[16:33:18] <Kasen> reminds me of the
90s
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L977[16:33:23] <ShadowKatStudios>
font-family: monospace;
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L979[16:33:46] <Kasen> especially since
you mention CGI :P
L980[16:34:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
the server is '90s
L981[16:34:12] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, /me uses Monospace 9 for his IRC font
L982[16:34:20] <ShadowKatStudios> 800Mhz
power
L983[16:34:38] <Vexatos> I like that font,
never saw it
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L985[16:35:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Vexatos:
I literally have no idea what font you mean because it depends on
the browser and your configuration
L986[16:35:20] <g> anonymous pro 11
here..
L987[16:35:29] <Kasen> that font that
isn't a specific font?
L988[16:35:36] <Vexatos> It's not?
L989[16:35:40] <Kasen> ...no
L990[16:35:44] <Vexatos> Because I
certainly don't have that font installed
L991[16:35:47] <Kasen> it's just whatever
monospace font your browser has
L992[16:35:49] <ShadowKatStudios>
font-family: monospace;
L993[16:35:51] <Vexatos> whatever it's
displaying
L994[16:35:53] <Vexatos> weird
L995[16:35:55] <Vexatos> let me
check
L996[16:35:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Care to
screenshot?
L997[16:37:28] <Vexatos> Apparently it's
"Courier New"
L998[16:37:29] <Vexatos> .-.
L999[16:37:35] <Vexatos> Never saw it,
what the heck
L1000[16:37:39] <Kasen> usually you give
a list of fonts, going from the most specific one you want, through
a bunch of fallbacks, and end up with the most generic one at the
end, which is just "monospace" (any monospace font you
have) or "serif" (any serif font you have) or
something
L1001[16:37:45] <ShadowKatStudios> You've
never seen Courier New?
L1002[16:37:46] <Kasen> you've most
likely seen it
L1003[16:38:09] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
lazy, so I just specified monospace straight up
L1004[16:38:35] <Kasen> it's a different
size in both browsers i have on my laptop lol
L1005[16:39:16] <ShadowKatStudios>
"open to interpretation"
L1006[16:39:20] <Kasen> lol
L1007[16:40:28] <Kasen> btw, what is
cil.li? i just read is as "silly"
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L1009[16:40:57] <ShadowKatStudios> That's
how it's meant to be read.
L1010[16:41:20] <Kasen> ok then
L1011[16:41:34] <ShadowKatStudios> It's a
bit silly, but y'know.
L1012[16:41:48] <Kasen> nothing wrong
with that
L1013[16:41:58] <ShadowKatStudios>
Indeed.
L1014[16:42:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
we certainly wouldn't want opencomputers.info, would we?
L1015[16:44:15] <Kasen> coulld be
worse
L1016[16:44:18] <Kasen> could be a
.tk
L1017[16:44:19] <Kasen> could*
L1018[16:44:26] <ShadowKatStudios>
:P
L1019[16:44:44] <Vexatos>
shadowk.at
L1020[16:44:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I want
shadowkat.su
L1021[16:44:59] <ShadowKatStudios>
Because of the su command
L1022[16:45:25] <ShadowKatStudios> And if
you take it literally, it's shadowkatsu, which sounds funny.
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L1025[16:45:46] <DeanIsaKitty> ICANN has
expressed intentions to terminate the .su domain
L1026[16:45:48] <Vexaton> Sorry, SKS, my
joke was so bad that it crashed my client
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L1029[16:45:52] <Kasen> i wanted raki.ru,
but some russian bastard company is parking it
L1030[16:46:08] <Vexatos> I already have
a domain name I want to buy once I have income
L1031[16:46:18] <ShadowKatStudios>
DeanIsaKitty: I know it tried at one point, but it's trying
again?
L1032[16:46:18] <Vexatos> I just don't
have the required €8 yet
L1033[16:46:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Are
most domains buy once or pay every x amount of time?
L1034[16:46:49] <Kasen> every
domain
L1035[16:46:50] <Kasen> is rent
L1036[16:46:56] *
g has evidently.sexy
L1037[16:47:06] <Kasen> usually a year or
two
L1038[16:47:10] *
CompanionCube has a .tk
L1039[16:47:10] <Kasen> most allow up to
10
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L1042[16:47:16] <g> yeah, most domains
are around $10/year
L1043[16:47:49] <Kasen> my .st costs like
€90 for 3 years
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L1045[16:48:30] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, what's your IRC font
L1046[16:48:41] <Kasen> the .com, .ru and
.co.uk ones i have are all ~$10-15
L1047[16:48:44] <Vexatos> SKS: It is €8 a
year, the one I'd like to have
L1048[16:48:59] <Vexatos> €9
actually
L1049[16:49:12] <Vexatos> It's a
.net
L1050[16:50:07] <ShadowKatStudios>
CompanionCube: Ubuntu mono
L1051[16:50:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay,
so tl;dr I'll have to devote $20 of my income a year to a domain
name
L1052[16:50:27] <Kasen> i have no idea
what i have
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L1055[16:50:42] <DeanIsaKitty>
ShadowKatStudios: Income? :P
L1056[16:50:45] <Kasen> not sure where to
find that on here
L1057[16:51:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
DeanIsaKitty: I'm getting a proper bank account I can use, soon,
and there will be an automatic transfer of $5/week
L1058[16:51:42] <Kasen> oh, i have a .net
too
L1059[16:51:46] <ShadowKatStudios> So 4
weeks worth of money will go to a domain
L1060[16:51:53] <Kasen> how old are
you?
L1061[16:52:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Less
than 18.
L1062[16:53:05] <Kasen> i figured that
much
L1063[16:53:30] <Kasen> this laptop can't
run MC - i wish i could test OC programs out without it
L1064[16:54:32] <ShadowKatStudios> I'd be
getting a bit more than $5/week if I was >18, something along
the lines of $70 with Youth Allowance.
L1065[16:56:01] <gamax92> back
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L1067[17:01:36] <CompanionCube> Kasen,
people have been working on an OC Emulator
L1068[17:01:43] <ShadowKatStudios> It
mostly works
L1069[17:01:55] <ShadowKatStudios> It
can't boot micrOS or miniOS, but small things.
L1070[17:02:05] <Kasen> oh cool
L1071[17:02:15] <ShadowKatStudios> It
runs OpenOS, apparently, though.
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L1076[17:48:04] <g> so, BigReactors
supposedly supports OC
L1078[17:48:17] <g> is that a BR thing or
an OC thing?
L1079[17:48:21] <g> (that's on PC
startup)
L1080[17:49:19] <Vexatos> Does your forge
server log say anything?
L1081[17:49:25] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L1082[17:49:27] <g> there's nothing in
the console
L1083[17:49:35] <g> should I check the
file?
L1084[17:49:46] <Vexatos> No
L1085[17:49:57] <Vexatos> Do you have the
latest version of BR installed?
L1086[17:50:04] <g> good question,
sec
L1087[17:50:51] <g> ah, nope
L1088[17:50:52] <g> that'd be it
L1089[17:53:06] <ShadowKatStudios>
*grumble* I should've .tar.gz'd the files, not just compressed a
disk image of it
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L1092[17:59:30] <ShadowKatStudios> hm, I
can fit the file
L1093[18:03:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh,
the things I do for my Ren'Py save files
L1094[18:03:43] <skyem123> uhh?
L1095[18:04:40] <ShadowKatStudios>
Deleting my 32-bit XP VM so I can get at my compressed disk
image
L1096[18:05:36] <skyem123> haha
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L1100[18:24:48] <gamax92> Sangar: is it
bad to use PacketSender.sendSound for beeping?
L1101[18:25:22] <Sangar> gamax92,
dunno
L1102[18:25:32] <gamax92> .-.
L1103[18:25:45] <gamax92> Sangar: then is
it the correct way to do it?
L1104[18:26:03] <ShadowKatStudios>
So
L1105[18:26:17] <ShadowKatStudios>
Apparently the pirated copy of BeOS I got had a bunch of software
with it'
L1106[18:26:19] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nice.
L1107[18:26:29] <Sangar> gamax92, from
the java side? unless you implement your own beeps, i guess
:P
L1108[18:26:39] <gamax92> ahh okay
good
L1109[18:26:48] <gamax92> Because i found
the code in Machine.scala
L1110[18:27:15] <Aedda> Oh wow, I
remember BeOS
L1112[18:30:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Still
extracting.
L1113[18:35:12] <gamax92>
ShadowKatStudios: "pirated copy of BeOS" "I put the
software on my webserver"
L1114[18:35:17] <gamax92> what are you
... vetusware?
L1115[18:35:25] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yes.
L1116[18:35:26] <ShadowKatStudios>
No.
L1117[18:35:33] <ShadowKatStudios> It's
random stuff.
L1118[18:35:42] <ShadowKatStudios> It'll
be up for another hour if you want anything
L1119[18:36:47] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, be careful you don't get yo shit taken down
L1120[18:37:21] ***
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L1121[18:37:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
CompanionCube: Like I said, an hour, then I'm moving it.
L1122[18:37:35] <Pwootage>
Moooorning
L1123[18:37:38] <skyem123>
ShadowKatStudios, "It'll be up for another hour"?
L1124[18:38:13] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yep.
L1125[18:38:17] <CompanionCube> inb4 wget
-r
L1126[18:38:27] <ShadowKatStudios> See
link either above or in #SKSDev
L1127[18:38:36] <skyem123> Why only
another hour?
L1128[18:38:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Mind
you, you guys have accounts on lain, if you have patience you can
grab it through sftp later
L1129[18:38:51] <skyem123> ah
L1130[18:39:21] <Pwootage> How is the OC
world today?
L1131[18:39:31] <ShadowKatStudios>
skyem123: So I don't get my shit taken down is why
L1132[18:39:35] <skyem123> ah
L1133[18:40:12] <gamax92> Pwootage: Good
news, there are only two question on your homework!
L1134[18:40:20] <gamax92> Each question
has 26 parts.
L1135[18:40:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Each
part has 4 subsections
L1136[18:40:59] <gamax92> You mush show
every step possible
L1137[18:41:23] <Pwootage> gamax92: wait
why are you assigning me homework? DansGame
L1138[18:41:31] <Pwootage> (wait, this
isn't twitch chat)
L1139[18:41:50] <gamax92> ?_? wat
L1140[18:42:01] <Kasen> is there any way
to detect the current dimension?
L1141[18:42:13] <Kasen> like, even if
it's stored in the map in the nav thing
L1143[18:42:48] <Pwootage> aw, my irc
client didn't cach that one
L1144[18:42:57] <Pwootage> Kasen: maybe
with the debug card, checking
L1145[18:43:23] <Kasen> not using
that
L1146[18:43:36] <Stary2001>
ShadowKatStudios: so i'm totally not using wget -r
L1147[18:43:42] <Stary2001> :p
L1148[18:43:53] <ShadowKatStudios> You
have 45 minutes.
L1149[18:43:53] <Kasen> well that's a
shame
L1150[18:44:08] <Pwootage> other than
debug.getWorld().getDimension[Name|ID]()
L1151[18:44:10] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
a 12Mbps upstream, usually more like 1.2Mbps.
L1152[18:44:12] <Pwootage> ~w
navigator
L1154[18:44:32] <Stary2001>
ShadowKatStudios: getting ~70KB/s
L1155[18:44:33] <Stary2001> fun.
L1156[18:44:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
I beat a dialup modem, vaguely
L1157[18:44:57] <Pwootage> but, uh, you
can probably just set what dimension you're in since robots can't
move between dimensions afaik
L1158[18:45:00] <Stary2001> you beat 8
dialup modems
L1159[18:45:04] <Stary2001> B != b
:p
L1160[18:45:07] <ShadowKatStudios>
waait
L1161[18:45:10] <ShadowKatStudios>
56Kbit
L1162[18:45:11] <Pwootage> drones can
probably do so, now that i think about it, though
L1163[18:45:13] <ShadowKatStudios>
Hm
L1164[18:45:28] <Kasen> Pwootage, well, i
can pick them up and move them, and i imagine drones can go through
portals
L1165[18:45:36] <Kasen> oh, you beat me
to the drones
L1166[18:46:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
Drones, could be interesting - imagine stargates and having them
transmit back telemetry
L1167[18:46:18] <Pwootage> that would be
so awesoe
L1168[18:46:18] <Stary2001> oh ok someone
else was dling
L1169[18:46:18] <Kasen> i guess i'll just
hardcode some unique dimension ID into the drones and not let them
leave a dimension
L1170[18:46:27] <Stary2001> now a
wonderful 100KB/s
L1171[18:46:32] <Kasen> ShadowKatStudios,
i'm planning something similar
L1172[18:46:39] <Kasen> minus the
stargates
L1173[18:46:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I was
working on mapping
L1174[18:47:01] <ShadowKatStudios> except
stuff refused to work
L1175[18:47:01] <Kasen> because of the
coordinates thing, i need to place them down in the right
place
L1176[18:47:15] <Pwootage> I was up till
2 am working on my house last night, and all I want to do is finish
class today and go back home and play more MC :(
L1177[18:49:58] <Pwootage> .lua
0.05*100000*18
L1178[18:49:58] <^v> Pwootage,
90000
L1179[18:50:07] <Pwootage> 90krf per
packet, then, I think?
L1180[18:50:10] <ShadowKatStudios> A
billion is 1e9, yes?
L1181[18:50:15] <Pwootage>
ShadowKatStudios: yes
L1182[18:50:34] <ShadowKatStudios> .c
1e9/70e3
L1183[18:50:40] <ShadowKatStudios> .lua
1e9/70e3
L1184[18:50:40] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
14285.714285714
L1185[18:50:52] <ShadowKatStudios> .lua
(1e9/70e3)/60
L1186[18:50:52] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
238.09523809524
L1187[18:51:07] <ShadowKatStudios> .lua
((1e9/70e3)/60)/60
L1188[18:51:07] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
3.968253968254
L1189[18:51:23] <ShadowKatStudios> 3
minutes to clone 1GB at 70KB/s?
L1190[18:51:28] <ShadowKatStudios> I
think it's more like 3 hours
L1191[18:52:23] <Pwootage> Wait, that is
probably 9k rf per packet, not 90k. I think?
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L1194[18:54:25] <Stary2001>
ShadowKatStudios: That IS hours.
L1195[18:54:29] <Stary2001> because
/60/60
L1196[18:54:30] <ShadowKatStudios>
:P
L1197[18:54:33] <Pwootage> Does anyone
know the config-energy-to-RF ratio? Is it 18 or 1.8?
L1198[18:54:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Too
slow, then.
L1199[18:54:38] <ShadowKatStudios>
You'
L1200[18:54:41] <Stary2001> ..yes
L1201[18:54:42] <Stary2001> lol
L1202[18:54:43] <ShadowKatStudios> ll get
a third of the files.
L1203[18:54:47] <Stary2001> great.
L1204[18:54:48] <ShadowKatStudios>
Actually.
L1205[18:54:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
extend it till I go to bed.
L1206[18:54:57] <Stary2001> oh ok
L1207[18:55:08] <ShadowKatStudios> It's 6
AM, by the way.
L1208[18:55:20] <Stary2001> ..shit
L1209[18:55:20] <Stary2001> xD
L1210[18:55:35] <ShadowKatStudios> You
have a few hours left.
L1211[18:55:37] <ShadowKatStudios>
Probably.
L1212[18:56:03] *
Stary2001 slaps ShadowKatStudios's router to make it download
faster
L1213[18:56:03] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L1214[18:56:20] <Pwootage> well train
ride is over, back in a little while
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L1217[18:56:34] <Stary2001> ok, lets not
do that
L1218[18:56:35] <Stary2001> xD
L1219[18:56:38] <ShadowKatStudios>
Stary2001: The issue isn't my router.
L1220[18:56:51] <Pwootage> I might have
to just try and see what the ratio is, if noone knows
L1221[18:57:01] <ShadowKatStudios> The
issue is Australia
L1222[18:57:08] <Stary2001> rofl
L1223[18:57:13] <Stary2001> Fun.
L1224[18:57:27] <Stary2001> my server is
in nl
L1225[18:57:32] <CompanionCube> latency
must be amazing kek
L1226[18:57:37] <Stary2001> well, this
particular one xD
L1227[18:57:59] <CompanionCube>
Stary2001, on the plus side it'll be faster for us to grab shit
later
L1228[18:58:03] <Stary2001> heh
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L1230[18:58:36] <ShadowKatStudios> My
latency is minimum of 250ms for non-Australian servers
L1231[18:58:45] <Stary2001> greaat.
L1232[18:58:51] <Stary2001> i wonder if
tcp window control shit
L1233[18:58:52] <Stary2001> is doing
it
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L1235[19:00:47] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, does your server not respond to an ICMP
ping?
L1236[19:01:13] <ShadowKatStudios> That
would be my shitty consumer router not responding, though it
responds to me
L1237[19:01:36] <CompanionCube> 317ms to
your LNS.
L1238[19:01:45] <CompanionCube>
Stary2001, ^
L1239[19:01:53] <Stary2001> fun
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L1241[19:02:46] <CompanionCube>
Stary2001, and then there's the latency to the specific line
L1242[19:02:54] <CompanionCube> then the
device behind that specific line
L1243[19:02:54] <Stary2001> yeep
L1244[19:02:57] <Stary2001> .-.
L1245[19:03:51] <CompanionCube> 12
lns01.syd.spintel.net.au (203.23.236.46) 313.680 ms 315.667 ms
317.645 ms
L1246[19:04:16] <ShadowKatStudios>
Correct.
L1247[19:04:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Of
course, I'm no-where near sydney.
L1248[19:04:42] <CompanionCube> no, but
your ISP's datacenter is
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L1250[19:05:09] <ShadowKatStudios>
Indeed.
L1251[19:05:32] *
CompanionCube knows that an LNS is one of 2 endpoints for an L2TP
tunnel
L1252[19:05:54] <Stary2001> xd
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timeout: 200 seconds)
L1254[19:06:28] <Stary2001>
CompanionCube: l2tp network server
L1255[19:06:34] <CompanionCube>
Stary2001, yep
L1256[19:06:38] <CompanionCube> is
connected to by a LAC
L1257[19:06:43] <CompanionCube> l2tp
access concentrator
L1258[19:08:42] <ShadowKatStudios> I love
the way you guys are figuring out exactly how my tiny server is
connected to the rest of the world
L1259[19:08:51] <Stary2001> xd
L1260[19:09:41] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, /me knows most of this stuff from how UK ISPs
work
L1261[19:09:48] <CompanionCube>
Stary2001, ^
L1262[19:09:57] <Stary2001> lol
L1263[19:09:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
you'd need to for your anti-ISP crusade
L1264[19:10:05] <CompanionCube> oi
L1265[19:10:10] <CompanionCube> some ISPs
are win
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L1268[19:10:42] <CompanionCube> not all
of them are crap :p
L1269[19:11:04] <skyem123> CompanionCube,
will I break something if I find a way to connect two internet
connections to the same router?
L1270[19:11:18] <CompanionCube> skyem123,
'internet connections'
L1271[19:11:22] <CompanionCube> do you
mean WAN or LAN?
L1272[19:11:31] <Sangar> wake-on-rs/lan
\o/ someone test please. please?
L1273[19:11:56] <ShadowKatStudios> What,
Sangar? Did we get wake-on-lan?
L1274[19:12:01] <Sangar> yes
L1275[19:12:48] <skyem123> CompanionCube,
two ISPs, one modem per ISP
L1276[19:12:56] <lperkins2> You can do
that, yes,
L1277[19:12:58] <CompanionCube> skyem123,
WAN connections are fan
L1278[19:13:16] <CompanionCube> LAN
connections can break shit though because loops
L1279[19:13:20] <lperkins2> it requires
configuring your stuff to know which one to use for how much
traffic.
L1280[19:13:39] <CompanionCube>
lperkins2, or just getting a router that supports bonding
L1281[19:13:47] <CompanionCube> and
presumably an ISP that supports it
L1282[19:13:54] <skyem123> uhoh
L1283[19:14:04] <lperkins2> If you want
multiple lan connections, you have to do the same basic thing,
refuse to route traffic through your box so that it doesn't loop
the network.
L1284[19:14:09] <CompanionCube> skyem123,
they don't *have* to support it
L1285[19:14:13] <CompanionCube> it just
makes things eaiser
L1286[19:14:23] <skyem123> ah
L1287[19:14:35] <skyem123> Would I be
able to use the same IP on both connections?
L1288[19:14:47] <lperkins2> Only with ISP
support.
L1289[19:14:51] <CompanionCube> ^
L1290[19:15:43] <lperkins2> Right, but
even if your router easily supports it, you'll usually want to
configure things, often to do things like have your videos come in
on one and everything else on the other, that way the videos and
what not don't interfere with web browsing or games.
L1291[19:15:52] <lperkins2> Especially if
there is a difference in the service
L1292[19:16:15] <ShadowKatStudios>
Personally, I'd just want to get two ADSL2+ connections to double
my general bandwidth
L1293[19:16:19] *
CompanionCube knows of an (expensive) UK ISP that supports bonding
on residental lines
L1294[19:16:25] <lperkins2> (one that's
low latency and the other with a higher bandwidth)
L1295[19:17:20] <lperkins2> Heh, getting
access to the gigapop made a big difference on our network load in
general, a 1GB direct feed to youtube, google, M$ and other
universities.
L1296[19:17:38] <ShadowKatStudios> I want
24Mbps up/down, really. I just want decent upstream.
L1297[19:17:46] <ShadowKatStudios> 70KB/s
is bullshit.
L1298[19:17:58] <Stary2001> yes
L1299[19:18:01] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, does oz have FTTC?
L1300[19:18:15] <CompanionCube> (FIbre to
the Cabinet)
L1301[19:18:21] <ShadowKatStudios>
Cabinet?
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L1304[19:19:39] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, yes
L1305[19:19:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
the last government was trying to get fiber to the home, but the
current one, along with cutting just about everything, has gone
"nope" and decided to do fiber to the pole outside the
house, then shit copper lines (ie still ADSL2+) to the home.
L1306[19:19:53] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, that's very similar
L1307[19:20:07] <ShadowKatStudios> I just
want fiber right to the building.
L1308[19:20:07] <CompanionCube> with
FTTC, it's copper to the cabinet and fibre from there
L1309[19:20:15] <CompanionCube> but using
VDSL rather than ADSL2+
L1310[19:20:19] <ShadowKatStudios> WHAT
IS THE CABINET
L1311[19:20:29] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, the thing you hit before the exchange
L1312[19:20:30] <Kasen> 70kB/s up is
still an improvement on mine T_T
L1313[19:20:42] <skyem123> Our ISP uses
DOCSiS
L1314[19:20:44] <Kasen> 45
L1315[19:20:53] <CompanionCube> skyem123,
so, cable over virgin media?
L1316[19:21:00] <skyem123> yea
L1317[19:21:05] <ShadowKatStudios> At the
moment, most of Australia is still fiber to the exchange, copper
the rest of the way
L1318[19:21:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
Fortunately, I'm relatively close to an exchange
L1319[19:21:16] <CompanionCube> don't
they have a max speed of 150mbit/s?
L1320[19:21:24] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
that's not that bad, think if it was copper all the way
L1321[19:21:29] <lperkins2> Wow, I
thought commodity internet at home at 12mbps was slow...
L1322[19:21:55] <CompanionCube>
lperkins2, it's worse when you have an asstard of an ISP
L1323[19:22:05] <skyem123> I think it's
fiber to the cabnet, then DOCSiS over copper coaxial cable.
L1324[19:22:15] <skyem123> Out upload is
3mbps
L1325[19:22:18] <CompanionCube> skyem123,
yuuup
L1326[19:22:28] <ShadowKatStudios> My
downstream is nice, though- 22Mbps tops, the ISP just seems to have
cheaped out on the upload, but it's still cheaper than Telstra, and
you can't get Optus here
L1327[19:22:31] *
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aren't
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L1330[19:23:16] <CompanionCube> true
fibre broadband would be fibre to the premises :(
L1331[19:23:19] <CompanionCube> *)
L1332[19:23:31] *
ShadowKatStudios demands that
L1333[19:23:48] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, in the UK it's been rolled out in a few
areas
L1334[19:23:54] <CompanionCube> another
few areas have gigabit ISPs
L1335[19:24:06] <ShadowKatStudios> In
Australia, you can get it in inner sydney and inner brisbane.
L1336[19:24:12] <skyem123> Virgin media
has put fibre to the cabnets and went: "DOCSiS can go to
fairly high speeds, it's better than our competitors"
L1337[19:24:17] <ShadowKatStudios> I was
in inner brisbane 6 months ago q_q
L1338[19:24:30] <ShadowKatStudios> It was
cable, but I had a solid 10Mbps up, 100Mbps down
L1339[19:24:36] <Kasen> it's not hard to
beat BT
L1340[19:24:43] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I used to
have dsl that was about 1.2 Mbit/s down and .5 Mbit/s up, now i
have 100 Mbit/s down / 20 Mbit/s up :D
L1341[19:24:43] <CompanionCube> ^
L1342[19:24:57] *
skyem123 stabs SuPeRMiNoR2
L1343[19:25:09] <Ender> CompanionCube, my
college has gigabit fiber links between campuses
L1344[19:25:23] <CompanionCube>
SuPeRMiNoR2, what ISP do you have?
L1345[19:25:24] <skyem123> We have 50mbps
down 3mbps up, because my parents cannot afford more.
L1346[19:25:33] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Mediacom
cable (they suck)
L1347[19:25:47] <VivienVoid> Vexatos, I
was told I should ask you: could you update the programs.yaml file
in OpenPrograms/Kenny's Repo to a programs.cfg
L1348[19:25:54] <Ender> and it's not just
fiber to the building, it's fiber to the server rack where it meets
the internal netowork
L1349[19:25:55] <VivienVoid> Pretty
please
L1350[19:26:07] <CompanionCube> isn't
cable companies sucking generally the rule
L1351[19:26:11] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i think
so
L1352[19:26:13] <Vexatos> VivienVoid,
Kenny told me not to
L1353[19:26:14] <Vexatos> so I
won't
L1354[19:26:16] <Ender> and it's
virgin
L1355[19:26:33] <SuPeRMiNoR2> but not as
bad as the telephone company that would not fix their telephone
line (it had static on it, that fucked up dls)
L1356[19:26:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> dsl*
L1357[19:26:50] <CompanionCube> heh
L1358[19:27:05] <CompanionCube> BT have a
similar reputation around here in some ways
L1359[19:27:13] <Kasen> it took BT 3-5
months to connect a line for us
L1360[19:27:46] <Ender> Kasen, you ever
been with TalkTalk?
L1361[19:27:49] <Kasen> nope
L1362[19:27:58] <Kasen> this was a
business line too btw
L1363[19:28:01] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I had my
modem connected directly to the demarc box, it still had the
static, and they wanted about $1000 to come fix it
L1364[19:28:10] <CompanionCube> isn't
TTW's product generally better than BT?
L1365[19:28:14] <Kasen> we had to install
a mobile repeater thing so we could accept credit card payments for
a while, since we didn't have internet
L1366[19:28:15] <lperkins2> Heh, my
parents live in the country, no DSL because there are mice that
live in the phone boxes
L1367[19:28:24] <Kasen> we're not with BT
for internet, just line rental
L1368[19:28:36] <Ender> good, last time i
had them i was getting 80kb/s down, not sure of the upload, was
probably PoS
L1369[19:28:39] <CompanionCube> (TTW =
TalkTalk Whholesale)
L1370[19:28:46] <VivienVoid> Vexatos,
hmmm. Is it because he wants to do it himself or is the repo
abandoned? Just wondering because I wanted to try some of his
programs
L1371[19:28:57] <CompanionCube> Ender,
TalkTalk also admit to doing Deep Packet Inspection on their
customers
L1372[19:29:03] <CompanionCube> on a
public forum even
L1373[19:29:05] <Vexatos> It is because
he doesn't like OPPM
L1374[19:29:13] <Vexatos> and he doesn't
want his programs there
L1375[19:29:13] <Kasen> i still don't see
the big deal with that
L1376[19:29:15] <Kasen> a lot of them
do
L1377[19:29:20] <Kasen> at least talk
talk admit to it publicly
L1378[19:29:23] <Vexatos> so, VivienVoid,
use wget to download the main file
L1379[19:29:28] <CompanionCube> good
point
L1380[19:29:33] <Vexatos> Kenny's
programs should all have auto-downloaders
L1381[19:29:36] <Vexatos> for the other
files
L1382[19:29:37] <CompanionCube> but
still, they shouldn't do it to begin with
L1383[19:29:45] <skyem123> My aunt had a
problem when the phone lines on poles were bad (in the country),
and the phone company could not fix them because the landlord
didn't want telephone poles (he doesn't logic) and so the telephone
company dug the road up.
L1384[19:29:46] <Kasen> no, but hey, it's
the UK
L1385[19:29:52] <VivienVoid> Vexatos,
thanks. I'll look into it
L1386[19:29:57] <Kasen> they have to do
filtering in some way anyway
L1387[19:30:09] <CompanionCube> Kasen,
not all ISPs have to do filtering
L1388[19:30:11] <Kasen> and what they
have to filter will likely increase in complexity soon enough to
the point that they all have to do it
L1389[19:30:16] <Kasen> not yet
L1390[19:30:16] <CompanionCube> only the
ones mandated by court order.
L1391[19:30:41] <Kasen> you know as well
as i do what direction cameron is going though :P
L1392[19:30:45] <CompanionCube> yes
:P
L1393[19:30:51] *
Ender stops paying attention to #oc before he starts cussing like
there's no tomorrow about the government
L1394[19:30:58] <CompanionCube> hopefully
the conservatives don't win this election
L1395[19:31:06] <CompanionCube> or the UK
is well and truly fucked internet wise
L1396[19:31:09] <lperkins2> I fricken
hate gradle!!!
L1397[19:31:15] <SuPeRMiNoR2> what is
happening with the uk internet?
L1398[19:31:23] <Kasen> Ender, i live in
scotland, so half of my bitching is now about people not voting yes
to get away from this shit
L1399[19:31:26] <CompanionCube> the PM
wants to ban encryption
L1400[19:31:30] <CompanionCube> or
backdoor it
L1401[19:31:40] <SuPeRMiNoR2> what
fucktard came up with that idea
L1402[19:31:45] <Kasen> CC, not just the
internet - we'll be truly fucked in general
L1403[19:31:48] <Ender> SuPeRMiNoR2, ouy
PM
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L1405[19:31:59] <lperkins2> You can't!
all you can do is slow the data transfer rate...
L1406[19:32:00] <ShadowKatStudios>
198.0GB, only 2GB to go!
L1407[19:32:09] <Ender> lperkins2,
wat?
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L1409[19:32:38] <Kasen> cameron's analogy
doesn't even make sense "we can read letters, therefore we
should be able to read internet messages" - they alreayd can,
and you can encrypt letters just as you can network messages
L1410[19:32:41] <lperkins2> If you 'ban'
encryption, all it will do is make the guys it's supposedly used to
catch use invisible encryption.
L1411[19:33:03] <Ender> CompanionCube,
also if they start banning encryption they should show us all their
stuff, it's only fair
L1412[19:33:04] <Kasen> oh, have you seen
the shit in the US atm CC?
L1413[19:33:05] <lperkins2> I send you a
file with some garbled nonce-data, every 4th byte of which is the
actual encrypted communication.
L1414[19:33:07] <Kasen> let me find a
link
L1415[19:33:14] <asie> Ender: if they ban
encryption i'm sure they will exempt it for government
entities
L1416[19:33:22] <asie> and then you just
find a guestbook on an HTTPS govt site
L1417[19:33:23] <CompanionCube> Ender,
that's a fair deal, especially all that surveilance data they
keep...
L1418[19:33:24] <asie> voila,
bypassed.
L1419[19:33:27] <Ender> asie, that
wouldnt suprise me
L1420[19:34:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
201.7GB free!
L1421[19:34:16] <CompanionCube>
also
L1422[19:34:19] <Ender> i think cameron
needs to take some large instrument to the brain matter in his
head
L1423[19:34:23] <CompanionCube> the
one-time-pad would be hard to block
L1424[19:34:27] <lperkins2> So, how do I
get gradle to exit non-zero if the build fails?
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L1426[19:35:03] <Pwootage> lperkins2: I
thought it just did, tbh
L1427[19:35:09] <lperkins2> It
doesn't...
L1429[19:35:14] <Pwootage> :*
L1430[19:35:33] <Kasen> blog post is far
less dry than official docs, so...
L1431[19:35:36] <Pwootage> lperkins2:
Sortof-related: how goes x86?
L1432[19:35:48] <lperkins2> Ugh, not even
gonna read it, I don't want to know what that... thing is
doing.
L1433[19:35:55] <lperkins2> Um, I got
distracted?
L1434[19:36:11] <lperkins2> I'm still
working on it, but I needed a break from the constant uphill
battle.
L1435[19:37:01] <Pwootage> :p
L1436[19:37:10] <Pwootage> what're you
writing with gradle?
L1437[19:37:22] <lperkins2> I'm working
on a ship mod,
L1438[19:37:36] <lperkins2> it was not
properly saving entities for nesting in a fake world
L1439[19:37:46] <lperkins2> (it was
calling the server-side load on the client)
L1440[19:38:38] <lperkins2> I'm trying to
get it so that OC tiles move into the nested world properly.
L1441[19:38:42] <ShadowKatStudios>
hm
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L1443[19:38:49] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
an hour to kill while this decompresses
L1444[19:38:51] <lperkins2> Then it'll
work in space.
L1445[19:39:11] <ShadowKatStudios>
spaaaaaaace
L1446[19:39:15] <Pwootage> ship mod you
wrote or..?
L1447[19:39:19] <Pwootage> also,
SPAAAAAAACE
L1448[19:39:21] <lperkins2> Nope.
L1450[19:40:04] <ShadowKatStudios>
interesting
L1451[19:43:32] <Pwootage> gah
L1452[19:43:35] <Pwootage> I WANT TO PLAY
TEH MCS
L1453[19:43:43] <ShadowKatStudios> So
play?
L1454[19:43:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Even
my shitty ex-school laptop can run MC reasonably
L1455[19:43:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2>
ShadowKatStudios: what are you decompressing?
L1456[19:44:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
SuPeRMiNoR2: A 200GB disk image
L1457[19:44:18] <ShadowKatStudios> So I
can retrieve my Ren'Py save files.
L1458[19:44:30] <ShadowKatStudios> (That
is literally my entire motivation)
L1459[19:44:41] <Pwootage> At scool and
my pack/world are on my desktop
L1460[19:45:06] <Pwootage> school
L1461[19:45:08] <Pwootage> wow
L1462[19:45:15] <ShadowKatStudios> too
cool for scool
L1463[19:45:25] <ShadowKatStudios>
SCNR
L1464[19:46:06] <Pwootage> and my pc is
sleeping so I can't even tansfer it from here
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L1466[19:46:26] <Pwootage> so I'll do
homework instead
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L1469[19:48:11] <ShadowKatStudios>
Stary2001: How's the download going?
L1470[19:48:54] <Stary2001> its got to
vim
L1471[19:49:08] <Stary2001> ...shit its
allmost done
L1472[19:49:09] <Stary2001> xD
L1473[19:49:09] <Pwootage> is it going
alphabetically?
L1474[19:49:17] <Pwootage> because vim is
pretty late in the alphabet
L1475[19:49:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Not
bad, it'll be done soon, and I can go to bed.
L1476[19:49:43] <Stary2001> Saving to:
'shadowkat.tk/beos-software/Development/blender1.80a-beos-4.5-i386.zip'
L1477[19:49:44] <Stary2001> NEVER
MIND
L1478[19:49:45] <Stary2001> xD
L1479[19:49:55] <ShadowKatStudios>
Blender for BeOS?
L1480[19:49:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
Huh,
L1481[19:50:21] <Stary2001> i guess it
did the files first
L1482[19:50:23] <ShadowKatStudios> 1.1m,
1.2m
L1483[19:50:25] <Stary2001> then moved
onto folders
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L1485[19:50:39] <asie> Sangar: what's the
best way to check if a ManagedEnvironment is still valid?
L1486[19:50:42] <asie> or where to hook
its unloading?
L1487[19:51:58] <Stary2001>
ShadowKatStudios: BeMAME..
L1488[19:52:00] <Stary2001> wat.
L1489[19:52:17] <ShadowKatStudios> MAME
is something to do with audio, IIRC
L1490[19:54:49] <Magik6k> ~w
filesystem
L1492[19:54:58] <Stary2001> CCTPBF.zip
30-Nov-2014 05:40 118M
L1493[19:55:00] <Stary2001> Aaa.
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L1495[19:55:31] <ShadowKatStudios>
Apparently I have a Mac Quadra 900 ROM in there.
L1496[19:55:44] <Stary2001> hahaha
L1497[19:56:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Yet no
emulator to use it with.
L1498[19:56:39] <samis> ShadowKatStudios,
get one?
L1499[19:56:41] <ShadowKatStudios> I
wonder how large all of those packages are uncompressed...
L1500[19:56:54] <gamax92> lets find
out
L1501[19:56:55] <ShadowKatStudios>
RAMDISK.ZIP looks interesting
L1502[19:57:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I
wonder if Haiku would run it...
L1503[19:57:18] <gamax92> isn't MAME an
arcade emulaor
L1504[19:57:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Note
to self: Fix original BeBox
L1505[19:57:41] <ShadowKatStudios> (not
actually a BeBox, just a Pentium III box with BeOS)
L1506[19:57:54] <Stary2001> lol
L1507[19:58:37] <ShadowKatStudios> I also
have something I call BeBox but is actually a P4 HT with
Haiku
L1508[19:59:23] <asie> BeBeBeBox
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L1510[20:00:48] <ShadowKatStudios>
There's a raw Lynx executable
L1511[20:01:18] <skyem123> I wish people
could easily make PowerPC based computers as they can 68k based
ones
L1512[20:01:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Isn't
PPC dead?
L1513[20:01:47] <skyem123> It isn't
L1514[20:01:47] <Pwootage> Uh
L1515[20:01:51] <Pwootage> Wii U is
PPC
L1516[20:02:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Isn't
Wii U dead?
L1517[20:02:03] <Pwootage> PPC is popular
in high-end servers, too
L1518[20:02:04] <Pwootage> No
L1519[20:02:06] <Pwootage> Smash 4
L1520[20:02:07] <skyem123> PowerPC is
renamed the "POWER ISA"
L1521[20:02:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I want
some form of SPARC system
L1522[20:02:59] <Pwootage> Also, they're
releasing wii games on wii u eshop for cheap
L1523[20:03:06] <Pwootage> I don't know
if SPARC is still used
L1524[20:03:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Oracle
still makes SPARC stuff, it's just huge machines- like, >100
processor machines
L1525[20:03:58] <ShadowKatStudios> I
think Oracle still does that, anyway
L1526[20:04:21] *
ShadowKatStudios is a Sun fan
L1527[20:05:24] <skyem123> Microsoft and
intel and AMD are clever.
L1528[20:05:45] <skyem123> They know
businesses like backwards compatibility
L1529[20:05:54] <skyem123> so they
provide it.
L1530[20:05:54] <gamax92> what about
IBM?
L1531[20:06:03] <samis> dear god
L1532[20:06:07] <samis> if this is
true
L1534[20:06:35] <Pwootage> I hate x86,
though :(
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L1536[20:06:49] <Pwootage> ARM seems to
be a bit better, but I don't know a ton about it
L1537[20:06:50] <gamax92> Negi!
L1538[20:07:03] <gamax92> Pwootage: z80
:P
L1539[20:07:07] <Pwootage> also, you can
run any modern x86 processor in emulated 8086 mode, which is
silly
L1540[20:07:08] <Negi> gamax92 !
L1541[20:07:16] <Pwootage> z80's are a
bit old at this point ;D
L1542[20:07:18] <Negi>
z80 <3
L1543[20:07:30] <Negi> Pwootage: z80
never gets old ẅ
L1544[20:07:42] *
ShadowKatStudios prefers 6502
L1545[20:07:55] <gamax92>
ShadowKatStudios: oh hey, have you seen the changes I've done to
OCSymon?
L1546[20:08:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Not
recently
L1547[20:08:05] <Pwootage> z80 and 6502
are probably simple enough to implement in redstone easily
enough
L1549[20:08:14] <ShadowKatStudios> By the
way gamax92, got a ping on 6502?
L1550[20:08:18] <gamax92> no?
L1551[20:08:25] <Negi> Pwootage: But
computers D:
L1552[20:08:26] <Pwootage> professor
isn't here. 5 more min and class is canceled. Nice.
L1553[20:08:52] <Pwootage> heh, I kinda
want to find a schematic for 6502 and generate redsotne to emulate
it
L1554[20:08:52] <samis> Pwootage, that
good or bad for you?
L1555[20:08:55] <Pwootage> but it's not
worht it
L1556[20:09:14] <Negi> Pwootage: Never
say "Nice." at the end of a probable issue
enunciation.
L1557[20:09:25] <asie> Nice.
L1558[20:09:29] <samis> Nice.
L1559[20:09:34] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nice.
L1560[20:09:34] <Pwootage> Cancelled
class is good. :D
L1561[20:09:38] <ShadowKatStudios>
^
L1562[20:09:39] <Negi> Because of you,
the prof just might arrive in 4 minutes.
L1563[20:09:49] <asie> Negi: 4 minutes
are fine
L1564[20:09:53] <asie> it's under 4 left
by when you said it
L1565[20:09:55] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nice.
L1566[20:10:01] <asie> Nice.
L1567[20:10:08] <ShadowKatStudios> And of
course asie is timing it.
L1568[20:10:18] <asie> i use
timestamps
L1569[20:10:27] <Negi> asie: I was still
stuck the time when 4 minutes WEREN'T enough.
L1570[20:10:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh,
accurate to the minute or second?
L1571[20:10:32] <Pwootage> Oh hey
professor is here after all
L1572[20:10:41] <asie> Negi: See?
L1573[20:10:45] <asie> He didn't arrive
in 4 minutes!
L1574[20:10:46] <samis> Pwootage, you
only have yourself to blame for this
L1575[20:10:48] <asie> He arrived in
3!
L1576[20:10:49] <asie> Nice.
L1577[20:10:52] <Pwootage> Classmates
went to go find him
L1578[20:10:56] <Pwootage> long before I
mentioned it
L1579[20:11:01] <Pwootage> (he was
chillin in his office)
L1580[20:11:04] <Negi> Pwootage:
Classmates shouldn't have.
L1581[20:11:10] <asie> Nice.
L1582[20:11:17] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nice.
L1583[20:11:22] <samis> what kind of
classmates are these? ones that actually like moar class?
L1584[20:11:48] <skyem123> wat?
L1585[20:11:58] <gamax92>
ShadowKatStudios: Well, you can actually pull signals now (bugfix),
BEL is now a beep, added a bunch of ansi escape sequences, fixed
the bug dropping input characters, added a cursor, added clipboard
support, beeps on boot, you can change colors, and short CSI is
supported
L1586[20:12:02] <ShadowKatStudios> samis:
I find a higher percentage of females than males come to school to
learn, though I doubt this applies here.
L1587[20:12:27] <ShadowKatStudios>
gamax92: That's awesome. Does it have mass storage, yet?
L1588[20:12:31] <asie> I come to school
to get a paper which says I know a lot
L1589[20:12:37] <gamax92> n-no ...
L1590[20:12:46] <samis> gamax92, is that
OC emulator or something?
L1591[20:12:47] <Negi> asie: So you can
get a job and money to live at least decently later ?
L1592[20:12:49] <ShadowKatStudios> :P But
that's awesome.
L1593[20:12:57] <gamax92> samis: no this
is a 6502 architecture
L1594[20:13:01] <samis> ah
L1595[20:13:11] <ShadowKatStudios> asie:
I go to school so I can seem like a god in front of my
classmates.
L1596[20:13:23] <asie> Negi: If I live
until then
L1597[20:13:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
not even that good at what I do.
L1598[20:13:44] <Negi> asie: Don't say
that ! D:
L1599[20:13:52] <gamax92> 4 of those are
architecture related and 4 of those are Terminal -> OC Screen
related
L1600[20:13:52] <Negi> O P T I M I S M
(woo~)
L1601[20:13:55] <samis> ShadowKatStudios,
what exactly do you do
L1602[20:14:00] <asie> Negi: THERE IS NO
OPTIMISM IN A LIFE OF ASIE
L1603[20:14:09] <asie> I'm a
perfectionist, i will never be optimistic
L1604[20:14:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Yay
another pesimist- oh, well, close.
L1605[20:14:19] <asie> the glass is
always half empty and everyone else is always one step ahead!
L1606[20:14:23] <ShadowKatStudios> samis:
I'm not sure.
L1607[20:14:32] <Pwootage> Clssmates who
don't understand compilers and want more information on how to make
compiler
L1608[20:14:33] <Negi> I manage to be
both optimistic, pesimistic and perfectionist, asie.
L1609[20:14:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I
think that's why I'm not very good at it.
L1610[20:14:45] <asie> Negi: Then you're
either a hypocrite or not doing anything.
L1611[20:14:54] <gamax92> wait, if the
glass is /always/ half empty ...
L1612[20:14:57] <gamax92> world hunger
solved.
L1613[20:15:03] <samis> ShadowKatStudios,
I will willingly admit I'm better at software than hardware
L1614[20:15:04] <Negi> Or I'm simply
having violent mood and character swings.
L1615[20:15:06] <ShadowKatStudios> World
thirst solved.
L1616[20:15:08] <samis> Hence I know what
I do.
L1617[20:15:15] <gamax92>
ShadowKatStudios: what if its a smoothie?
L1618[20:15:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Bam,
two birds with one stone.
L1619[20:15:44] <gamax92> asie: We must
have this glass :>
L1620[20:15:50] <skyem123> I take the
logical side to things. It's half empty if it's been drunk. Half
full if it's been filled.
L1621[20:15:58] <asie> the problem
is
L1622[20:16:00] *
Ender needs a tactical hammer
L1623[20:16:02] <asie> it's not filled
with water
L1624[20:16:10] <Negi> We shall acquire
the metaphorical glassware.
L1625[20:16:17] <samis> I'm a mixture of
pessimism, optimism, realism and pragmatisim
L1626[20:16:27] <asie> and i'm just
insane
L1627[20:16:28] <gamax92> I'm
gamax92
L1628[20:16:31] <gamax92> Nice to meet
you
L1629[20:16:32] <Negi> And pixie dust
\o/
L1630[20:16:53] <ShadowKatStudios>
skyem123: I'm tall, and from above, a glass looks half empty rather
than half full.
L1631[20:16:55] *
Ender is a procrastinator mixed with anarchist
L1632[20:16:57] *
samis is pessimistic that the world will get better soon, but
optimistic it will happen eventually
L1633[20:16:59] <Pwootage> TACTICAL
HAMMER
L1634[20:17:00] <samis> oh, yes
L1635[20:17:05] <samis> such
procrastination
L1636[20:17:11] <samis> much wasted
time
L1637[20:17:44] <Negi> samis: SOCIETY
COLLAPSING, HURRAY \o/ World's saved.
L1638[20:17:57] <Ender> samis, pretty
much sums up my first to years of college
L1639[20:18:23] <samis> Ender, I have a
one-shot assignment due on sunday
L1640[20:18:40] <samis> and it's got a
segment about hardware shiz I suck at :(
L1641[20:18:58] <ShadowKatStudios> samis:
Show me it, I'm bored and I'm still waiting for my file to
decompress
L1642[20:19:04] <samis> ShadowKatStudios,
....nah
L1643[20:19:09] <ShadowKatStudios> I can
sometimes do hardware
L1644[20:19:19] <samis> I already has all
the photographic evidence I need
L1645[20:19:27] <ShadowKatStudios> like,
Sakeko lives under my desk, my desktop is custom, lain is...
lain.
L1646[20:19:30] <Ender> now my problem is
i can talk about different bits of the computer and what not, but
if you ask me to write it down? fuq dat
L1647[20:19:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I can
write far better than I can talk.
L1648[20:19:53] <samis> I can talk and
write about the bits, and identify them
L1649[20:20:01] <samis> but ask me to
install/uninstall hardware? fuq dat
L1650[20:20:28] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios,
i also dont like writing stuff formally
L1651[20:20:44] <Ender> the anarchist in
me hates that
L1652[20:21:20] <samis> ShadowKatStudios,
if you want I can show you a copy of ze assignment brief
L1653[20:21:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
meh
L1654[20:21:38] <ShadowKatStudios> got
bored of it already
L1655[20:22:00] <samis> tl;dr it involved
me photographing shit and writing about shit
L1656[20:24:52] <Negi> I can talk of shit
but can't write about it. I can write alright but I stutter like
I'm doing it willfully when I speak. Wtf brain.
L1657[20:27:21] <Pwootage> Uhoh
L1658[20:27:29] <Pwootage> now regular
grammars are showing up in my OS class
L1659[20:27:35] <Pwootage>
s/OS/compilers/
L1660[20:27:35] <Kibibyte>
<Pwootage> now regular grammars are showing up in my
compilers class
L1661[20:29:04] <ShadowKatStudios>
grammars?
L1662[20:29:38] <samis> Stary2001, how
badly did shit asplode
L1663[20:29:48] <samis> Pwootage, is that
bad
L1664[20:29:51] <Stary2001> haha
L1665[20:30:11] <Pwootage> Uh
L1666[20:30:18] <Pwootage> I mean it's
technically a good way of representing it
L1667[20:30:29] <Pwootage> Let's just say
the grammar class is not popular
L1668[20:30:34] <Pwootage> (although it
is required)
L1669[20:31:28] <Magik6k> ~w
instrnet
L1671[20:31:39] <ShadowKatStudios>
Stary2001: How's the download?
L1672[20:31:43] <Stary2001> Slowly.
L1673[20:31:43] <gamax92>
>instrnet
L1674[20:31:49] <Stary2001> It's
downloading c_tri
L1675[20:31:55] <Stary2001> which
is..300mb..
L1676[20:31:57] <Pwootage> Good job,
ocdoc
L1677[20:32:26] <Magik6k> oh yup
L1678[20:32:38] <ShadowKatStudios>
anyway, I think I'll go to bed.
L1679[20:32:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Of
course
L1680[20:32:44] <ShadowKatStudios> this
is still extracting
L1681[20:32:49] <Stary2001> ..oh
lawd
L1682[20:32:49] <ShadowKatStudios> so I
can't move stuff
L1683[20:32:51] <ShadowKatStudios>
:P
L1684[20:32:52] <Stary2001> there's
MORE?
L1685[20:33:00] <ShadowKatStudios> No,
different stuff.
L1686[20:33:02] <Stary2001> Oh.
L1687[20:33:04] <Stary2001> lol
L1688[20:33:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
decompressing a 200GB disk image.
L1689[20:33:17] <Magik6k> Bot for github
oc repo search hould be nice here imho too
L1690[20:33:18] <Stary2001> ...ah.
L1691[20:33:28] <ShadowKatStudios> From a
USB 2.0 hard drive
L1692[20:33:31] <Pwootage>
ShadowKatStudios: maybe 100mb/sec max because HDD
L1693[20:33:37] <Stary2001>
ShadowKatStudios: Hahaha.
L1694[20:33:40] <Pwootage> uh, in that
case, what, 12mb/s?
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L1696[20:33:50] <ShadowKatStudios>
Something like that.
L1697[20:33:54] <Magik6k>
ShadowKatStudios, 4 days ago I was moving and shrinking 1.2 TiB
partition
L1698[20:34:03] <Stary2001> oh fun
L1699[20:34:04] <ShadowKatStudios>
Ow.
L1700[20:34:06] <Magik6k> 3 days ago I
started installing arch ;p
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L1702[20:34:13] <Stary2001> i broke my
partitions once. :p
L1703[20:34:21] <Stary2001> linux / and
(seperately) my windows
L1704[20:34:21] <ShadowKatStudios> I
think my computer has a total of 1.12TB of storage internally
L1705[20:34:31] <Stary2001> fun
L1706[20:34:38] <Stary2001> mine has a
total of 3 drivemakers terabytes
L1707[20:34:41] <Magik6k> But well, LVM
is the best think that could ever happen
L1708[20:34:42] <Pwootage> I once
accidnelty forgot to grub-mkconfig after installing grub
L1709[20:34:46] <Stary2001> Magik6k:
ohgodyes
L1710[20:34:48] <ShadowKatStudios> 500GB
/ + 320GB anime + 250GB Windows
L1711[20:34:55] <Stary2001> hehe
L1712[20:34:56] <Pwootage> so now I've
booted linux from GRUB by hand
L1713[20:35:01] <Stary2001> i have a
500gb anime partition..
L1714[20:35:02] <Stary2001> well
L1715[20:35:09] <Stary2001>
s/anime/videos
L1716[20:35:09] <Kibibyte>
<Stary2001> i have a 500gb videos partition..
L1717[20:35:37] <Sangar> asie,
onDisconnect on an env when called with the env's own node is
generally equivalent to onunload/invalidate. to check if that
already happened *usually* it should be fine to see whether
node.network != null or not (usually because i can't *think* of a
case where it would be different but can't guarantee it doesn't
happen somewhere anyway)
L1718[20:35:42] <asie> Sangar:
right
L1719[20:35:57] *
Magik6k haz xbmc with tons of plugins and no videoz on
hdd
L1720[20:36:14] <Pwootage> I kinda want
to not use this fancy language definition format for writing my own
programming language
L1721[20:36:22] <Pwootage> I want to try
doing it a different way
L1722[20:36:42] <Pwootage> I mean it's
probably going to end up half the same anyway I guess
L1723[20:37:18] <Negi>
metametametametametametametametametametameta
L1724[20:37:19] <Kasen> language
definition format? like, a grammar definition?
L1726[20:37:38] <Stary2001> hnggg
L1727[20:37:43] <Stary2001>
ShadowKatStudios: i had a 300gb anime collection
L1728[20:37:44] <Negi> Kasen: Look for
BNF or Backus-Nauer Form.
L1729[20:37:47] <Stary2001> then my
parents got mad
L1730[20:37:49] <Stary2001> about
piracy
L1731[20:37:51] <ShadowKatStudios>
Sidenote: WHY IS THAT GEASS FOLDER STILL THERE I DELETED IT
TWICE
L1733[20:38:00] <Pwootage> that kinda
definition
L1735[20:38:31] <Negi> Pwootage: BNF
<3
L1736[20:38:39] <Kasen> Pwootage, yeah,
kind of what i was thinking
L1737[20:38:39] <ShadowKatStudios> I
demand a listing, Kasen.
L1738[20:38:40] <Pwootage> I mean this
class will be written with a RDP but
L1739[20:38:54] <Pwootage> when I write
my own language after this class I kinda want to try doing it a bit
differentky
L1740[20:39:11] <Negi>
METAMETAMETAMETAMETA
L1742[20:39:40] <Negi> I defined my
language with regexp embedded in BNF tags tho. So that I could
reuse these already.
L1743[20:39:41] <Kasen> i haven't
necessarily finished everything there (a few folders may be
incomplete)
L1744[20:40:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Guilty
Crown, good taste.
L1745[20:41:33] <ShadowKatStudios> I love
the way everyone uses the Japanese name for AoT
L1746[20:41:42] <Stary2001> xD
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L1748[20:42:14] <Negi> Because SnK is a
cool name.
L1749[20:44:15] <Kasen> i couldn't get
into guilty crown
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L1752[20:44:53] <Kasen> "attack on
titan" doesn't even make sense
L1753[20:45:41] <Pwootage> I was going to
paste a pic of my video folder but I can't even fid it (it's
empty)
L1754[20:45:52] <ShadowKatStudios> My
laptop's name is Tsugumi
L1755[20:47:08] <Kasen> my TV show folder
is like 1.7GB...
L1756[20:47:24] <Kasen> "Other
videos" is 2GB
L1757[20:47:38] <Kasen> lol, "Music
videos" is larger than "TV Shows"
L1758[20:47:42] <Negi> ShadowKatStudios:
Mine's Yosuke. Where's the name "Tsugumi" from ?
L1759[20:47:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Guilty
Crown
L1760[20:48:32] <Pwootage> my desktop is
Hawkeye, my old laptop Trapper, my old phone Radar O'Riley, my new
phone 44 hy, my tablet JLVWNNOOOO
L1761[20:48:38] <skyem123> My raspberry
pi is called Nano
L1762[20:48:40] <Pwootage> my macbook is
just PwootBookPro
L1763[20:49:43] <asie> skyem123: my
laptop is called nano
L1764[20:49:52] <Kasen> my desktop's
called Sean-PC...
L1765[20:50:19] <skyem123> asie, what is
your desktop called?
L1766[20:50:27] <Pwootage> oh and my wifi
is Shorts Kid
L1767[20:50:33] <Pwootage> (and Shorts
Kid 5ghz)
L1768[20:51:11] <Negi> My old PC is Kanji
and the thing that I'll use as a mediacenter when my mother will
get rid of her data will be called Naoto.
L1769[20:51:37] <Negi> (I still use my
old PC as a FTP/DLNA server tho)
L1770[20:51:53] <Kasen> my laptop's
called shii - i can't remember what it's from since a friend named
it for me
L1771[20:51:56] *
samis2 only has one PC in regular use
L1772[20:52:01] <samis2> my hostname:
arch-desktop
L1773[20:52:06] <Kasen> lol
L1774[20:52:10] <Negi> Kasen: Chobits
probably.
L1775[20:52:19] <Kasen> ah, yes
L1776[20:52:34] <Kasen> i knew it was
slightly lewd
L1777[20:53:00] <Negi> Herm, that's not
really lewd ._.
L1778[20:53:04] <Kasen> lewd as in i'm
touching her to type, not the thing itself
L1779[20:53:19] <Negi> Oh.
L1780[20:55:47] <Stary2001> lol
L1781[20:57:21] *
samis2 should get a more creative hostname
L1782[20:57:48] <Ender> good luck when
connecting via sky
L1783[20:58:07] <skyem123> skye-win8-pc
and skye-temp_name_pent4
L1784[20:58:40] <Pwootage> My server's
hostname is pwootage.com
L1785[20:58:44] <Pwootage> (as /who
gladly tells you)
L1786[20:59:17] <samis2> Ender, I mean
locally
L1787[20:59:25] <Ender> ah
L1788[20:59:30] <samis2> something better
than arch-desktop
L1789[20:59:40] <Ender> also if we're
listing computer names, my main pc is Trickster, my Pi is
Darcath
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L1791[21:02:16] <Magik6k> ~w api
filesystem
L1793[21:03:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
I should go to bed.
L1794[21:04:31] <Stary2001> can you give
it uh.. 3 minutse
L1795[21:04:35] <Stary2001> :p
L1796[21:07:24] <Stary2001> 20s!
L1797[21:07:41] <Stary2001>
ShadowKatStudios: yesss c_tri is done
L1798[21:17:30] <Pwootage> So I wrote a
java lexer in 10 lines of javascript yesterday
L1799[21:17:49] <Pwootage> yet it took
some of my classmates ages to write a lexer for KXI
L1800[21:18:10] <Stary2001> hahaha
L1801[21:18:33] <Pwootage> I mean it's a
really basic one but it's functional
L1802[21:18:55] <Negi> Also changing
hostnames with Debian is a pita.
L1803[21:19:06] <Pwootage> hostname
<hostname>?
L1804[21:19:20] <Negi> Pwootage: sudo
bugs after that.
L1805[21:19:31] <Negi> And actually, it
only changed the name until reboot.
L1806[21:19:35] <Negi> Same with -b
option.
L1807[21:19:47] <Stary2001> change
/etc/hostname, and fix the hostname in /etc/hosts
L1808[21:19:48] <Pwootage> sudo vim
/etc/hostname or something I thought for persisting it
L1809[21:19:53] <Stary2001> then hostname
<hostname>
L1810[21:20:03] <Pwootage> editing two
files and running one command isn't exactly hard
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L1812[21:21:15] <Negi> Stary2001: Thanks,
didn't remember to do that one.
L1813[21:21:26] <Stary2001> likely the
cause of sudo bugging out
L1814[21:21:27] <Negi> Pwootage: Actually
it's mostly remembering to edit more than one file.
L1815[21:21:45] <Negi> Memory issues and
such.
L1816[21:21:54] <Altenius> Still listing
computer names? Mine is 'arch'
L1817[21:21:57] <Pwootage> Eh, I change a
hostname so infrequently I'd probably look it up anyway
L1818[21:24:02] <Pwootage> #g arch linux
change hostname
L1820[21:24:51] <Pwootage> Awesome,
archlinux has a "hostnamectl set-hostname myhostname"
that does errything
L1821[21:24:56] <Pwootage> systemd is
great
L1822[21:25:04] <Negi> is not.
L1823[21:25:12] <Negi> :I
L1824[21:25:23] <Pwootage> y u hate
systemd
L1825[21:25:25] <Kasen> i've never had to
change a hostname
L1826[21:25:34] <gamax92> so lets see,
oclights2 gpu will basically cause the nether to never work (kicks
everyone who's in it due to a networking error)
L1827[21:25:41] <gamax92> and, they don't
function entirely in the end
L1828[21:25:48] <Kasen> ...lol
L1829[21:25:50] <Kasen> why?
L1830[21:26:01] <Kasen> good thing we
decided to test in the end :V
L1831[21:26:26] <gamax92> probably the
way it gets the world from the dimension id.
L1832[21:26:41] <gamax92> where nether is
-1
L1833[21:26:43] <gamax92> and
arrays
L1834[21:26:47] <Negi> Pwootage: Kilobyte
explains better than I do. (Actually I suck at explaining so I
would say it wrong. It's something about it being having to be
reverse-engineered for anything to get done with it.)
L1835[21:26:54] <Negi> ( I think. )
L1836[21:27:06] <Pwootage> Well I mean
who needs to go to the nether (especially if you have Nether Ores)
and the end doesn't need fancy screens anyway
L1837[21:27:18] <Kasen> Negi, people have
told you it's abd, so you think it's bad?
L1838[21:27:30] <Kasen> that sounded more
negative than it was suppsoed to
L1839[21:27:33] <Pwootage> Negi: From the
perspective of someone who writes basic systemd services and just
uses a system with systemd instealled, it works great
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L1841[21:27:51] <Negi> Kasen: When
arguments are kinda making sense, yes ?
L1842[21:27:58] <Pwootage> better than
Upstart or SysVInit by far
L1843[21:28:19] <Negi> Ugh just don't
bother when I say that kind of stuff at that hour, tbh.
L1844[21:28:27] <Negi> /Especially/
now.
L1845[21:28:50] <asie> remove systemd
from premises
L1846[21:29:15] <asie> Pwootage: try
runit, s6 or perp
L1847[21:29:22] <asie> or better yet,
nosh
L1848[21:29:27] <Negi> I am tired, my
eyes are black enough to make me look like a panda, I have two
tests, an exam, marked homework and a 20-pages paper about storage
fiability to turn in during next week.
L1849[21:29:39] <Pwootage> systemd works
well enough that I don't even care to try something else
L1850[21:29:57] <Negi> I don't want to
have a debate the way I am right now.
L1851[21:30:45] <asie> Pwootage: as an OS
developer, i can never be compatible with systemd
L1852[21:30:51] <asie> but i can easily
be compatible with sysvinit or just about anything else
L1853[21:31:04] <asie> because systemd
has no API, interface or contract
L1854[21:31:05] <Pwootage> That's quite
possibly true
L1855[21:31:10] <asie> its only API is
its own source code
L1856[21:31:10] <gamax92> .-. wait ... if
we have the player object why aren't I just getting the world from
the player.
L1857[21:31:12] <Pwootage> I wouldn't
know
L1858[21:31:15] <asie> BSDs have serious
issues with it already
L1859[21:31:26] <Pwootage> but it sure
seems to work great as a user :D
L1860[21:31:35] <asie> for users, yes...
until your OS breaks
L1861[21:31:40] <asie> and you can only
access the binary log with systemd tools
L1862[21:31:43] <asie> which only run
when systemd is up
L1863[21:31:50] <gamax92> D: wth
L1864[21:32:01] <asie> gamax92: systemd
stores journals as binary logs
L1865[21:32:04] <gamax92> no not
that.
L1866[21:32:08] <asie> oh
L1867[21:32:16] <Pwootage> Thus far I've
had the most problems with sysvinit, then upstart, then systemd
/shrug
L1868[21:32:20] <gamax92> gradlew needs
internet to build, even though I've a complete Dev environment and
have builded before?
L1869[21:32:27] <Pwootage> I want to try
more but I'm too lazy ;P
L1870[21:32:29] <asie> Pwootage: all
three are bad
L1871[21:32:41] <asie> openrc and nosh
and runit and s6 are interesting replacements
L1872[21:33:01] <gamax92> i don't exactly
have internet atm (this is irc over phone proxy)
L1873[21:33:05] <Stary2001> fun
L1874[21:33:50] <Negi> I think I should
go to bed I can't see what people are writing
L1875[21:33:55] <Negi> Night.
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L1877[21:37:50] <Magik6k> ~w
serialize
L1879[21:38:05] <gamax92> and ofc gradlew
can just sit there and do nothing
L1880[21:38:09] <gamax92> thats also fine
i guess ...
L1881[21:39:01] <Pwootage> yaaay
gradle
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L1883[21:39:58] <Pwootage> sbt is kinda
cool, anyone here used it?
L1884[21:40:06] <Pwootage> It has it's
own set of problems but it's kinda neat
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L1886[21:41:42] <gamax92> FUCKING BUILD
ALREADY
L1887[21:41:45] <gamax92> YOU'RE AT
70%
L1888[21:42:09] <Pwootage> OC's gradle
problems are caused by deps that are offline like half the
time
L1889[21:42:17] <Pwootage> mostly
L1890[21:42:24] <gamax92> doesn't it
download the deps?
L1891[21:42:30] <gamax92> if now how can
i spoof a webserver
L1892[21:42:33] <gamax92> if not*
L1893[21:42:55] <Pwootage> it dls the
deps yeah from custom maven repos
L1894[21:43:09] <gamax92> so then it
should already have them in its cache
L1895[21:43:15] <gamax92> why is it
downloading them again?
L1896[21:43:38] <Sangar> if you sit
through that once you can run it with --offline afterwards to speed
it up by math.huge
L1897[21:44:21] <Kasen> no way to set the
timeout on checking for new versions or something?
L1898[21:44:35] <gamax92> Sangar: You are
my savior \o/
L1899[21:44:39] <Pwootage> unless you
havn't dl'd the deps before ;D
L1900[21:45:01] <Pwootage> in which case
you can't compile OC
L1901[21:45:08] <gamax92> I'm compiling
OCLights2
L1902[21:45:55] <Pwootage> ohey I already
have all my deps, neato
L1903[21:46:03] <Pwootage> so I can
compile after all
L1904[21:46:29] <Pwootage> Sangar: how do
I tell Intellij to run with --offline?
L1905[21:47:05] <Pwootage> also, is the
config power -> RF ratio 18 or 1.8? It's the difference between
9krf/packet and 90krf/packet, so I have vested interest
L1906[21:47:29] <Sangar> Pwootage, for me
intellij builds without using gradle, so i don't need to tell
it?
L1907[21:47:49] <Pwootage> Sangar:
really? Even with the project imported as gradle?
L1908[21:47:55] <Sangar> yeah
L1909[21:48:07] <Sangar> it only runs
gradle stuff when refreshing the gradle info
L1910[21:48:14] <gamax92> D:< and gpu
is refusing to be placed down now.
L1911[21:48:17] <Sangar> i.e. when
clicking that refresh button in the gradle tab
L1912[21:48:52] <Pwootage> I need to
refresh the gradle info to get it to compile, though
L1913[21:49:05] <Sangar> as for
conversion ratio, i think 18? and yeah, i know people tend to say
it was 10rf:1mj, but that was what i got based on coal value anyway
:P
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L1915[21:49:30] <gamax92> lol the value
of coal
L1916[21:49:33] <Sangar> well, once,
sure. how to tell it to do that offline? no clue.
L1917[21:49:51] <Sangar> coal, the common
denominator for energy in minecraft since there is coal! :P
L1918[21:50:02] <Pwootage> so it costs
360 rf to send a 400 block packet?
L1919[21:50:09] <Pwootage> Now that I did
hta tmath it makes more sense that it's 36
L1920[21:50:18] <Pwootage> in which case
it's 9k not 90k
L1921[21:50:21] <Pwootage> (for
100km)
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L1928[22:09:55] <Altenius> does the
filter in component.list() filter the address or type? And does it
check if the beginning of the address/type is the filter or if the
filter is inside the address/type?
L1929[22:10:30] <Sangar> type and wheter
it contains it. you can pass `true` as a second param for exact
matching
L1930[22:12:34] <gamax92> gdude, Kasen:
Fixed the other dimensions bug, works in nether and the end just
fine now.
L1933[22:12:59] <Kasen> noice
L1934[22:13:38] <Kasen> did you manage to
solve the Mysterious Case of the Blankening Display?
L1935[22:13:49] <gamax92> nope .-.
L1936[22:15:18] <Kilobyte> Pwootage: i
agree systemd rocks
L1937[22:15:51] <Kilobyte> although, it
kinda violates unix philosophy a bit, its fast and gets the job
done very well
L1938[22:16:17] <Pwootage> yeah
L1939[22:16:39] <Kilobyte> i am really
happy debian switched
L1940[22:16:49] <Kilobyte> so i now also
can haz systemd on servers
L1942[22:16:51] <Kilobyte> well,
soon
L1943[22:17:45] <Dashkal> Pwootage: I
manage all my scala projects via sbt. Damn handy once you learn how
it works.
L1944[22:18:04] <Kilobyte> Dashkal: it
is
L1945[22:18:57] <Dashkal> I spent the
effort to learn some internals so I could write new tasks. I have
this lovely one that injects a json file with git information into
the generated jars.
L1946[22:19:08] <Altenius> Can someone
explain what the EEPROM does and how to use it? I haven't played OC
in a long time but I'm working on an emulator.
L1948[22:19:32] <TabletCube> Altenius:
stores the 'BIOS'
L1949[22:19:33] <Dashkal> Altenius: It
contains initial bootstrap code that runs first. It's responsible
for loading the stuff from the drive.
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L1951[22:19:49] <Altenius> Does it have a
default BIOS?
L1952[22:19:55] <Dashkal> Dump the LUA
BIOS eeprom for the default one
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L1954[22:20:14] <Dashkal> s/UA/us/
L1955[22:20:14] <Kibibyte>
<Dashkal> Dump the Lus BIOS eeprom for the default one
L1956[22:20:16] <Dashkal> bah
L1957[22:20:16] <Altenius> ?
L1958[22:20:18] <Dashkal> fail
L1959[22:20:34] <cinder1992> Hello
guys
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L1961[22:20:51] <Dashkal> There's a
default EEPROM for the Lua arch. Dump it (flash program on the
default OpenOS) and it's just Lua source.
L1963[22:21:11] <Sangar> yes
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L1965[22:21:51] <cinder1992> "flash
-r bios.lua" will save the current EEPROM to bios.lua in
OpenOS.
L1966[22:23:32] <Pwootage> Dashkal: yeah,
SBT is one of my more favorite build systems, even with it's
problems
L1967[22:23:53] <Dashkal> Sadly, I've yet
to see one without its own flavour of hell
L1968[22:24:18] <Dashkal> But modding
notwithstanding, if I'm writing Scala, I'm using Sbt.
L1969[22:24:19] <Pwootage> Yeah, every
build system kinda sucks in their own way
L1970[22:24:30] <Dashkal> I may at some
point reimeplement forge gradle in sbt.
L1971[22:24:36] <Dashkal> But the itch
isn't itchy enough
L1972[22:24:39] <Pwootage> I would love
buliding mods with sbt
L1973[22:24:57] <cinder1992> Could
someone help me with match strings? I'm having loads of trouble
trying to split these strings in a specific way.
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L1976[22:27:45] <cinder1992> I figured
that was the attitude to that question.
L1977[22:27:45] <Dashkal> Without my
precious parser combinators, I hide from text.
L1978[22:28:08] <Dashkal> And I'm not
willing to port parsec to lua
L1979[22:28:14] <cinder1992> I'm so used
to perl and just doing $string ~= s/a/b/h
L1980[22:28:23] <cinder1992> s/h/g/
L1981[22:28:23] <Kibibyte>
<cinder1992> I'm so used to perl and just doing $string ~=
s/a/b/g
L1982[22:29:12] <cinder1992> I'm writing
a first generation BASIC interpreter for OC and I think I have most
of the tech down.
L1983[22:29:40] <Dashkal> Well that went
easier than expected. Just got Intellij IDEA working on nixos
L1984[22:29:45] <cinder1992> the only
issue I'm having so far is splitting the function string where :
is, but NOT where : is inside quotes (")
L1985[22:30:23] <cinder1992> I tried
[^\"]:[^\"], but that's slurping up the characters
proceeding and following the :
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L1987[22:30:46] <cinder1992> so
"Test1 : Test2" returns " : "
L1988[22:30:55] <gamax92> wee
L1989[22:31:05] <gamax92> I'm running 2
minecraft clients, 1 server, and eclipse
L1990[22:31:20] <Kasen> eww,
eclipse?
L1991[22:31:24] <cinder1992> he
L1992[22:31:27] <gamax92> Kasen: I hope
your happy D:< but i have tracked down what packet causes the
issue
L1993[22:31:29] <cinder1992> h
L1994[22:31:34] <Kasen> very happy
L1995[22:31:51] <cinder1992> brb,
switching to proper IRC client.
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L1998[22:32:21] <Cinder> That's
better.
L1999[22:32:38] <Kasen> i like all the
92s in here
L2000[22:32:51] <Dashkal> Bah, that's not
a proper client. The only proper client is <the client I'm
using>
L2001[22:32:59] <Cinder> Actually I'm a
94, but back in 99 i didn't know that :P
L2002[22:33:00] <Cinder> weechat?
L2003[22:33:04] <gamax92> Kasen: ahh
well... this makes perfect sense now ...
L2004[22:33:05] <Kasen> ...lol
L2005[22:33:14] <Kasen> you wish you were
a 92
L2006[22:33:18] <Dashkal> Probably the
best terminal(curses) client I've seen
L2007[22:33:19] <Kasen> gamax92,
oh?
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L2009[22:33:30] <Cinder> I _KNEW_
it
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L2012[22:33:42] <Cinder> I use weechat on
my arch install.
L2013[22:33:56] <gamax92> A) client is
getting packet when they shouldn't be and B) the packet calls
propagateTerminal(), which happens to destroy all of the textures
and rebuilds them, and creating textures ... sets them to
black
L2014[22:34:09] <Dashkal> They have a
build for the raspberry pi. So I just ssh/tmux is up and use it
from everything.
L2015[22:34:11] <Altenius> Should
chromium really be using 1.1 GB for 10 tabs?
L2016[22:34:12] <Kasen> ah
L2017[22:34:15] <Cinder> but I'm stuck on
silly Windows because java does not like me on Linux
L2018[22:34:29] <Cinder> Altenius: That
sounds about right
L2019[22:34:36] <Kasen> can't you run
weechat on windows?
L2020[22:34:46] <Dashkal> Heh, I spent
some time getting an X server running on windows. So I even have my
normal terminal.
L2021[22:34:48] <Dashkal> Loves it
L2022[22:35:02] <Cinder> I CBA with
Cygwin, honestly
L2023[22:35:04] <Cinder> if I have the
real thing I mean
L2024[22:35:20] <Dashkal> It serves its
purpose. I have cygwin installed to give me X. From there, it's all
remoting
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L2026[22:35:31] <Dashkal> Now that it
works, I may never update the thing.
L2027[22:35:43] <g> xming is a good
windows x-server..
L2028[22:35:51] <g> that's what I use for
ssh forwarding
L2029[22:36:00] <Dashkal> It is, but it's
paid. So I tried the free one first.
L2030[22:36:23] <Dashkal> (Well, the
interwebs consistently mentioned it's a decent X server)
L2031[22:36:25] <Cinder> I managed to
forward X to my tablet and use it as a remote screen
L2032[22:36:37] <Cinder> it sort of
worked but the local nature of fonts was what killed it for
me.
L2033[22:36:44] <Cinder> and <10mbit/s
networking
L2034[22:36:55] <g> paid?
L2035[22:36:55] <Dashkal> Yeah. X is
actually something of an abomination to be honest about it.
L2036[22:37:00] <Kasen> i don't really
get why people like terminal irc clients so much, but i guess it's
just personal preference and how i use my clients
L2038[22:37:12] <Dashkal> The current
version is behind a paywall. I have no doubt I could get past it,
but couldn't be bothered.
L2039[22:37:12] <g> doesn't look very
paid
L2040[22:37:18] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L2041[22:37:19] <Dashkal> Ancient
version
L2042[22:37:51] <Dashkal> cygwin took me
about 20 minutes. So *shrugs*
L2043[22:38:26] <Dashkal> ooo, weechat
bug/misconfiguration. It did not like that unicode.
L2044[22:38:36] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Kasen:
I was tempted to fake a gui-based irc program in oc.
L2045[22:38:52] <Cinder> Dashkal: if
you're using Weechat via a terminal, it's usually the terminal's
fault.
L2046[22:39:03] <Dashkal> PuTTY can
handle unicode fine.
L2047[22:39:10] <Cinder> mmhm.
L2048[22:39:29] <Cinder> Never had a
problem with it running it locally with Terminator.
L2049[22:39:44] <Dashkal> My bet is that
there's a config issue somewhere. I'll switch to rxvt and see if it
goes away
L2050[22:40:36] <Cinder> I used rxvt for
a long time, ended up using Terminator because rxvt's configs got
my head in a muddle.
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L2052[22:41:23] <Dashkal> Mrh, ok,
usually putty is fine with unicode. That one beat it
L2053[22:41:27] <Dashkal> Issue
gone
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L2055[22:42:26] <Dashkal> Should grab
that locally. The poor raspberry pi doesn't cope well with
forwarding X clients
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L2057[22:49:10] <Cinder> ugh, match
strings still kicking my butt
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L2061[22:51:30] <Cinder> xfce4 is a
decent window manager.
L2062[22:51:38] <Cinder> ...Dashkal what
WM do you use, if any?
L2063[22:51:45] <Cinder> inb4
awesomeWM
L2064[22:52:04] <TabletCube> Cinder: what
about xfdesktop and the panel?
L2065[22:52:19] <Cinder> no idea, haven't
used it myself.
L2066[22:52:29] <Cinder> before I
discovered awesome I used xfce4
L2067[22:52:29] <Dashkal> Cinder:
xmonad
L2068[22:53:16] <Dashkal> Though when on
windows I just go without. More painful to get xmonad working than
it's worth
L2069[22:54:25] <Cinder> xmonad?
L2070[22:54:31] <Cinder> still a tiling
window manager.
L2071[22:54:34] <Dashkal> Yes
L2072[22:54:38] <Cinder> I prefer awesome
because lua.
L2073[22:54:43] <Dashkal> I prefer to not
have to futz around with where my windows are.
L2074[22:54:57] <Dashkal> Yeah, I still
don't like Lua.
L2075[22:55:06] <Cinder> it has it's
uses.
L2076[22:55:09] <Cinder> its*
L2077[22:55:16] <Dashkal> But that's not
why I gave up awesome. xmonad has a slightly different way of
handling multi-monitor and I prefer it.
L2078[22:55:28] <Cinder> I don't have
mulit-monitors
L2079[22:55:32] <Cinder> nor do I have an
HD monitor
L2080[22:55:34] *
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L2081[22:55:42] <Dashkal> Yeah, I
wouldn't call that having a computer at this point :P
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L2083[22:55:56] <Dashkal> I'm pretty
crippled trying to develop on one monitor.
L2084[22:56:18] <Dashkal> I'm pondering
moving to 3x, but that's a bit of a pain hardware-wise
L2085[22:56:20] <Cinder> I use a small
font for my editor (vim of course)
L2086[22:56:44] <Kasen> i can get as much
work done on one monitor now as i can with one arm behind my
back
L2087[22:57:01] <Dashkal> Pretty much
that. I feel blind at this point
L2088[22:57:09] <Kasen> i fear that if i
move to 3 monitors, i will no longer be able to do even simple
tasks on my laptop without crying
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L2090[22:57:19] <Cinder> I _did_ have
dual monitors at one point, but I accidentally broke one with
dropping a beer on it
L2091[22:57:43] <Kasen> atm i can do irc,
and maybe some slight browsing, on it and that's about it (low res
screen)
L2092[22:58:00] <Kasen> heh, one of mine
broke a while back and i had to go a few months with one - those
were not fun months
L2093[22:58:20] <Cinder> my family is a
family of geeks, everyone in the house has a PC or two.
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L2097[22:58:43] <^v> Oh noes! brutus
split 3:
L2098[22:58:43] <Cinder> I have this one
and my repurposed AMD Athlon 2600 running as a media server
L2099[22:59:12] <Dashkal> What I really
want #3 for is so I can work and IRC without losing a desktop. So
not compelling enough to drop the cash.
L2100[22:59:28] <ds84182> every irc
server is splitting
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L2103[22:59:36] <ds84182> freenode just
did a massive split
L2104[22:59:59] <Dashkal> Huh, I was on
the server that went down on freenode it appears.
L2105[23:00:19] <Pwootage> RIP 'net
L2106[23:01:21] <Cinder> I just finished
a comparison screenshot of my PNG renderer using the PNG library
from the forums.
L2107[23:01:23] <Dashkal> In fact, I
can't get back onto freenode for the moment. Weeee
L2108[23:01:25] <Cinder> half-char vs
full char
L2109[23:01:35] <Cinder> anyone wanna
see?
L2110[23:01:40] <Kasen> sure
L2112[23:02:02] <Pwootage> Dashkal: I was
too, interesting
L2113[23:02:11] <Cinder> left is
(ab)using half-char blocks and gpu.setForeground and
gpu.setBackground
L2114[23:02:13] <Kasen> highly
kawaii
L2115[23:02:25] <Kasen> ah, that's pretty
smart
L2116[23:02:33] <Cinder> right is using
straight full-character blocks
L2117[23:02:45] <Cinder> I was lurking
the forums and saw that in a post, I had to give it a shot
L2118[23:02:49] <Cinder> works
surprisingly well
L2119[23:03:03] <Pwootage> "You will
be what you think you will be"
L2120[23:03:06] <Kasen> you should just
grab gamax92's plugin to draw straight pixels :P
L2121[23:03:13] <Cinder> doubles the
vertical resolution of the screen.
L2122[23:03:16] <Pwootage> "There
are exceptions, otherwise every young man would be a young woman by
age 22"
L2123[23:03:21] <Kasen> yeah, it looks
good
L2124[23:03:31] <Cinder> Kasen: I wasn't
aware there was one.
L2125[23:03:42] <Pwootage> THis presenter
is interesting
L2126[23:04:04] <Kasen> was a what?
L2127[23:04:15] <Kasen> oh, sorry, i
alt-tabbed and completely forgot what i'd said
L2128[23:04:26] <Cinder> the plugin
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L2130[23:04:58] <Cinder> kudos to whoever
can guess what the hologram in the bottom right of that image
is.
L2132[23:05:13] <Cinder> dankje.
L2133[23:05:16] <gamax92> brb as i flush
swap into memory.
L2134[23:05:19] <ds84182> Cinder: is it
chess
L2135[23:05:24] <Kasen> oh, that's a
hologram? i thoguht it was some weird rendering bug lol
L2136[23:05:30] <Cinder> Yep, it
is.
L2137[23:05:31] <Pwootage> gamax92: how
do? THat would be good to know
L2138[23:05:43] <gamax92> sudo swapoff
-a; sudo swapon -a;
L2139[23:05:49] <ds84182> Pwootage: dd
if=/dev/swap of=/dev/mem
L2140[23:05:56] <gamax92> not what
ds84182 said
L2141[23:05:58] <Pwootage> ds84182: I
like it
L2142[23:05:58] <gamax92> don'
L2143[23:05:59] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L2144[23:06:12] <Kasen> lol
L2145[23:06:18] <Kasen> seems legit
L2146[23:06:24] <Cinder> but yeah, I
wanted to use that technique to make a touch-based game but then I
learned that OCs monitors only return integer values in the touch
event.
L2147[23:06:27] <ds84182> Pwootage: I
have memory pages working
L2148[23:06:29] <gamax92> ooh a
picture?
L2149[23:06:32] <Cinder> I was a little
disappointed.
L2150[23:06:35] <Pwootage> ds84182:
HYYYYYPYE
L2151[23:06:36] <TabletCube> There would
be crashes everywhere.
L2152[23:06:38] <Kasen> rather
than?
L2153[23:06:45] <Pwootage> ds84182:
format?
L2154[23:06:54] <ds84182> well, its a
custom format
L2155[23:07:02] <Cinder> ds: HAHA
L2156[23:07:06] <ds84182> I probably need
to fix it so it can't be exploited
L2157[23:07:13] <Pwootage> ds84182: well
yeah but I'd like to see the format :P
L2158[23:07:15] <Cinder> I actually
laughed at that
L2159[23:07:23] <ds84182> k
L2160[23:07:27] <Cinder> I mean the dd
comment
L2161[23:07:31] <ds84182> oh
L2162[23:07:32] <ds84182> lol
L2163[23:07:51] <gamax92> hey Cinder, can
i have the original image? ;)
L2164[23:07:57] <Cinder> the
original?
L2165[23:08:05] <Cinder> err, one
sec.
L2166[23:08:29] <ds84182> Pwootage: I
basically have a IO page in memory that controls memory stuff, it
kinda acts like a processor (you can set registers and invoke
operations)
L2167[23:09:01] <Pwootage> ds84182: seems
like it might work, I'd like to see the spec when you've fixed
it
L2169[23:09:10] <ds84182> Pwootage:
ok
L2170[23:09:24] <Cinder> I cropped it and
resized it so I don't have to do the resizing in code, I felt
lazy
L2171[23:09:27] <Pwootage> Cinder: is
that pic from that one ps3 game?
L2172[23:09:34] <Cinder> uhh, no?
L2173[23:10:04] <Pwootage> ok nvm
then
L2174[23:10:18] <Kasen> can i get the
deviant art page?
L2175[23:10:23] <Cinder> I also learned
that the PNG images put out by Gimp by default are incompatable
with the deflatelua library/.
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L2177[23:10:31] <Pwootage>
"..._by_Hernan6000.jpg"
L2178[23:10:49] <Cinder> Kasen: I
wouldn't know, I just did a reverse image search
L2179[23:11:01] <Kasen> k
L2180[23:11:03] *
Kasen does the same
L2181[23:11:16] <Cinder> I think I
searched "miku hatsune chibi" and looked for one with a
large size that would look good in 160x100
L2182[23:11:32] <Cinder> but yeah, I'd
start at where Pwoontage said
L2183[23:11:38] <gamax92> D:< mc load
already
L2185[23:12:31] <Pwootage> gamax92: story
of my life
L2186[23:12:40] <Cinder> I actually put a
little work into the new OC glasses mod too.
L2187[23:12:54] <Cinder> but I discovered
a little problem with it so I'm putting the project I was doing on
the backburner for now.
L2188[23:13:22] <Cinder> I was gonna make
3D AR chess but it turns out that OC networks can't provide enough
power to it and it just flickers.
L2189[23:13:46] <Pwootage> Cinder: I want
OC glasses D:
L2190[23:13:51] <Pwootage> ALso,
capacitors can solve that problem I think
L2191[23:14:02] <Cinder> Tried that, the
cables themselves can't provide the power.
L2192[23:14:14] <Pwootage> directly
connect the capacitors?
L2193[23:14:21] <Cinder> Yep.
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L2195[23:14:38] <Cinder> now it might
have been that I set it up wrong, but I did solve it in the
end
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L2198[23:14:49] <Pwootage> gamax92: D:
indeed
L2199[23:14:49] <Cinder> I put a second
powered, but off computer case next to the thing and it
worked.
L2200[23:14:53] <gamax92> I'mma disable
the dithering
L2201[23:15:40] <Cinder> hmm, that looks
like it JPEGd the F out of it.
L2202[23:16:09] <Cinder> that's still
160x100 isn't it?
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L2204[23:17:31] <gamax92> Cinder:
yeah
L2205[23:17:49] <gamax92> I /could/ go
higher though >:D (Yay custom graphics card)
L2206[23:18:08] <Pwootage> gamax92:
what's the highest you can do?
L2207[23:18:17] <gamax92> .-. i
dunno
L2208[23:18:31] <gamax92> i ran out of
memory doing 320x200 and had to move it to a server
L2209[23:18:46] <Pwootage> loool
L2210[23:18:50] <Pwootage> try it again
;D
L2211[23:18:56] <gamax92> whys
that?
L2212[23:19:09] <Pwootage> just curious
what it looks like
L2213[23:19:20] <gamax92> I'll just send
you the preview image then
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L2216[23:20:22] <Pwootage> nb
L2217[23:20:34] <gamax92> I'm also going
to go force a specific palette now .-.
L2218[23:20:39] <Pwootage> how big is the
.lua file?
L2219[23:20:44] <gamax92> 155KB
L2220[23:20:46] <Cinder> gmax92: are you
directly rendering the source file or something?
L2221[23:20:51] <Cinder> holy...
L2222[23:21:11] <Pwootage>
/''''''''''/
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L2224[23:21:50] <Pwootage> ^ me cleaing
my keyboard
L2225[23:21:51] <gamax92> Cinder: its
preprocessed outside of oc though.
L2226[23:21:53] <ds84182> gamax92: god
dam
L2227[23:22:09] <gamax92> its also
probably because imagemagick is choosing the stupidest
palette.
L2228[23:22:27] <Cinder> I loaded the PNG
file generated directly from OC.
L2229[23:22:31] <ds84182> gamax92: custom
pallet stuff using CIELab
L2230[23:22:33] <gamax92> I know
that
L2231[23:22:34] <ds84182> do it
L2232[23:22:40] <gamax92> ds84182: or i
can just have imagemagick do it
L2233[23:22:44] <ds84182> nah
L2234[23:22:46] <ds84182> don't depend on
them
L2235[23:22:50] <Cinder> using a (fixed)
version of the PNG library on the forums
L2236[23:22:56] <ds84182> should I send
you my CIELab stuff
L2237[23:23:01] <ds84182> it's the same
stuff used in BOop
L2238[23:23:05] <ds84182> *Boop
L2239[23:23:07] <gamax92> no .-.
L2240[23:23:12] <Cinder> I just looked
for "while true do" and added os.sleep(0) into them so
it'd stop timing out
L2241[23:23:27] <gamax92> XD wow
L2242[23:24:08] <Cinder> yeah I'm still
not sure if that's an exploit or not.
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L2244[23:24:33] <Cinder> because an
infinite loop like that would otherwise just go "Too long
without yielding"
L2245[23:24:47] <Cinder> adding
os.sleep(0) suppresses that.
L2246[23:24:49] <ds84182> as long as OC
never lets you have memory bigger than 32mb OpenArms is fine
L2247[23:25:04] <ds84182> s/b, O
L2248[23:25:14] <Sangar> Cinder, that's
perfectly fine, because that yields control of the worker thread so
other computers can run.
L2249[23:25:52] <Cinder> oh, I didn't
realize computers were sandboxed that way.
L2250[23:26:07] <Cinder> I thought they
were individually sandboxed instances of lua
L2251[23:26:10] <Sangar> yeah, that's why
there *is* a too long without yielding error
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L2253[23:26:14] <Pwootage> OC compuetrs
run in a thread pool
L2254[23:26:15] <Sangar> well they
are
L2255[23:26:22] <Pwootage> using
LuaJit
L2256[23:26:30] <Sangar> LuaC
L2257[23:26:35] <Pwootage> w/e
L2258[23:26:37] <Sangar> :P
L2259[23:26:42] <Cinder> ah okay.
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L2261[23:26:58] <Cinder> I can't wait for
Lua 5.3 to be added to OC, honestly
L2262[23:27:15] <Pwootage> what's new in
5.3?
L2263[23:27:37] <Cinder> Proper bitwise
operators
L2264[23:27:38] <Sangar> i'm a little
afraid of porting the persistence lib to 5.3 :/
L2265[23:27:40] <v^> .l53
1>>5
L2266[23:27:41] <^v> v^, 0
L2267[23:27:42] <Cinder> proper exponent
operators.
L2268[23:27:46] <v^> .l53
1<<5
L2269[23:27:46] <^v> v^, 32
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L2272[23:28:13] <Cinder> Sangar, it
shouldn't be too hard, not much of the lua core has changed
afaik
L2273[23:28:18] <ds84182> .l53 ~0
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L2275[23:28:18] <^v> ds84182, -1
L2276[23:28:21] <ds84182> yes
L2277[23:28:23] <v^> Cinder, look at the
diffs
L2278[23:28:25] <ds84182> .l53 ~-1
L2279[23:28:25] <^v> ds84182, 0
L2280[23:28:30] <ds84182> .l53
~-0xFFFFFFFF
L2281[23:28:30] <^v> ds84182,
4294967294
L2282[23:28:33] <Cinder> however, I have
no idea how the persistence actually works so :P
L2283[23:28:42] <ds84182> .l53
string.format("%X",~-0xFFFFFFFF)
L2284[23:28:43] <^v> ds84182,
FFFFFFFE
L2285[23:28:48] <ds84182> .l53
string.format("%X",~0xFFFFFFFF)
L2286[23:28:48] <^v> ds84182,
FFFFFFFF00000000
L2287[23:28:49] <Sangar> ds84182,
stahp
L2288[23:28:50] <Pwootage> You know,
ds84182's arch has working bitwise ops ;D
L2289[23:28:53] <ds84182> ( ͡^ ͜ʖ
͡^)
L2290[23:28:56] ***
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L2291[23:28:58] <ds84182> Sangar: I'll
stop
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L2293[23:29:08] <v^> /mode +b ds84182
#ocbots
L2294[23:29:12] <ds84182> wat
L2295[23:29:16] <ds84182> plsno
L2296[23:29:18] <Cinder> anyways
L2297[23:29:20] <Cinder> return
bit.bor(bit.lshift(r, 16), bit.lshift(g, 8), b)
L2298[23:29:25] <ds84182> oh god
L2299[23:29:25] <Cinder> can be written
as
L2300[23:29:39] <Sangar> Cinder, well the
persistence lib has to dig relatively deep into Lua's internals for
suspended coroutine persistence :P
L2301[23:29:40] <Pwootage> So basically
writing a lua vm sucks a whole lot less
L2302[23:29:50] <ds84182>
r<<16|g<<8|b
L2303[23:29:51] <Cinder> return r
<< 16 | g << 8 | b
L2304[23:30:01] <ds84182> Pwootage:
yes
L2305[23:30:03] <ds84182> ish
L2306[23:30:05] <Cinder> hmm...
L2307[23:30:22] <ds84182> really only the
bytecode part and the instruction decoding part uses bit
shifts
L2308[23:30:28] <ds84182> other than
that... it doesn't really
L2310[23:30:37] <Cinder> coroutines
haven't changed at all afaik, but again I'm probably barking up the
wrong tree
L2311[23:30:57] <Sangar> well that'd be a
good thing
L2312[23:31:18] <Cinder> woah okay,
that's formidable.
L2313[23:32:03] <Cinder> Sangar: the
first thing I'd try is just compiling it and testing it, best to
get that out of the way rather than fretting that it won't
work.
L2314[23:32:11] <Cinder> if it doesn't
work, find out what's broken and fix it.
L2315[23:32:17] <Pwootage> 2731
lines
L2316[23:32:30] <Cinder> Honestly though
that should be broken up into a few files, 3000 lines is extreme
for a C file
L2317[23:32:45] <Pwootage> 3000 lines is
extereme for anything that's not a db file
L2318[23:32:49] <Cinder> ^
L2319[23:32:52] <Sangar> meh
L2320[23:32:54] <Sangar> :P
L2321[23:33:10] <Sangar> it's well
structured at least
L2322[23:34:04] <Cinder> quite.
L2323[23:34:42] <Dashkal> The one thing
that might convince me to give up vim and learn emacs...
ensime
L2324[23:34:52] <Pwootage> Sangar: yeah
it's not bad
L2325[23:34:57] <Dashkal> The vim bridge
hasn't been touched in years
L2326[23:35:01] <Pwootage> Don't give up
vim! D:
L2327[23:35:16] <Sangar> neovim?
L2328[23:35:37] <Dashkal> Pwootage: vim
has no specific scala integration. There are some deep inspections
I'd need to be able to use it. Ensime provides those to
emacs.
L2329[23:35:38] <Pwootage> I kinda wish
vim's source wasn't so terrible, though
L2330[23:35:50] <Pwootage> Dashkal:
that's what intellij is for :D
L2331[23:35:53] <ds84182>
***(pointer)
L2332[23:36:09] <Dashkal> IntelliJ fails
for me in some cases. I'm pushing it further than it's willing to
go.
L2333[23:36:15] <Dashkal> So I've been
looking for a way forward
L2334[23:36:18] <Pwootage> ds84182:
please dont' tell me you...
L2335[23:36:37] <ds84182>
************************(&&pointer)*2
L2336[23:36:45] <Pwootage> ds84182:
D:
L2337[23:36:48] <Cinder> oh god
L2338[23:37:19] <Pwootage> s/*/
pointer/
L2339[23:37:26] <Pwootage> s/\*/
pointer/
L2340[23:37:26] <Kibibyte>
<ds84182>
pointer***********************(&&pointer)*2
L2341[23:37:31] <Pwootage> forgot to put
/g oh well
L2342[23:37:39] <ds84182> nah, its more
LDR R0, =0x2000000; LDR R0, [R0]; SVC 0xFFFFFF9;
L2343[23:37:54] <ds84182> that outputs
the memory size in the debugger
L2344[23:37:56] <ds84182> yay
L2345[23:38:11] <Pwootage> Why are you
writing assembly?
L2346[23:38:22] <ds84182> Pwootage:
because why not
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L2348[23:38:32] <ds84182> plus thats the
only way to do SVC calls
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L2350[23:38:46] <ds84182> which is the
only way to shutdown
L2351[23:38:51] <ds84182> and
invoke
L2352[23:39:03] <Pwootage> ds84182: true
enough. Just inline?
L2353[23:39:32] <ds84182> nah, I actually
have a .s file with all the svc calls in it so I can call them like
regular functions from C
L2354[23:39:54] <ds84182> and the SVC
handler is in asm
L2355[23:40:05] <Cinder> ds84182: What
assembly? SVC? care to explain for us simple folk?
L2356[23:40:09] <ds84182> else, if you
fire an unknown service it will simply jump to 0x8
L2357[23:40:30] <ds84182> Cinder: SVC is
ARM's equivalent to a system call
L2358[23:40:38] <Cinder> oooh arm.
L2359[23:40:45] <Pwootage> ds84182: good
solution
L2360[23:40:50] <ds84182> And I'm making
an arch addon for OC that lets you use an arm processor
L2361[23:41:02] <Pwootage> (and I'm
waiting for it so I can write an OS for it)
L2362[23:41:05] <Cinder> why not 6502 or
68000?
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L2364[23:41:15] <ds84182> because thats
what gamax92 is doing
L2365[23:41:22] <Cinder> or 8088 if
you're sadistic.
L2366[23:41:23] <gamax92> what am i
doing?
L2367[23:41:25] <ds84182> and plus I can
write this in C or C++
L2368[23:41:26] <Kasen> i'm waiting for
it so i can write something that isn't lua
L2369[23:41:29] <gamax92> oh yeah
L2370[23:41:31] <ds84182> gamax92:
6502
L2371[23:41:56] <Pwootage> I'll write the
OS then Kasen can write apps :D
L2372[23:41:56] <Cinder> as long as the
undocumented opcodes are in properly, I'm happy.
L2373[23:42:48] <Kasen> i'm more
interested in the x86 thing, since i at least know how that works,
but hey, anything that lets me write C is a winner
L2374[23:43:28] <Pwootage> x86 is eew
D:
L2375[23:43:33] <Pwootage> arm will match
writing lua more
L2376[23:43:45] <Pwootage> x86 will match
writing regular c more
L2377[23:43:47] <ds84182> so, now it's
time for me to try to unload an elf into memory and map it
correctly
L2378[23:44:03] <ds84182> s/un//
L2379[23:44:03] <Kibibyte>
<ds84182> so, now it's time for me to try to load an elf into
memory and map it correctly
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L2381[23:44:19] <ds84182> without using
the java side svc call for it
L2382[23:44:19] <Pwootage> gl! That's so
close to me being able to do code
L2383[23:44:26] <ds84182> because it's
cheating
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L2385[23:45:05] <Pwootage> so your
init.elf has a elf-loader then?
L2386[23:45:43] <ds84182> will have
L2387[23:46:03] <ds84182> and also my
eeprom.elf is almost at the 4kb point D:
L2388[23:46:09] <Cinder> hmm
L2389[23:46:16] <ds84182> it's 3.8kb, but
I think it's perfect enough
L2390[23:46:22] <Cinder> I should write a
3D API for OC.
L2391[23:46:29] <Pwootage> ds84182: So
since it's your arch you can name the OS
L2392[23:46:32] <Pwootage> what should it
be called?
L2393[23:46:38] <Pwootage> Cinder: DO
IT
L2394[23:46:46] <Cinder> or port the one
from CC
L2395[23:46:58] <Pwootage> didn't know CC
had one
L2396[23:47:16] <ds84182> Pwootage:
ARMOS?
L2397[23:47:25] <ds84182> Maybe, i
dunno
L2398[23:47:29] <Pwootage> ds84182:
Allcaps?
L2399[23:47:31] <ds84182> I was thinking
of using that for mine
L2400[23:47:39] <ds84182> Hmm...
L2401[23:47:40] <Pwootage> worksh for
me
L2402[23:47:52] <ds84182> Or maybe OpenOS
for ARM?
L2403[23:48:07] <Pwootage> I mean I guess
it will be kinda like openOS
L2404[23:48:12] <Cinder> What ARM arch
are you implementing?
L2405[23:48:15] <Cinder> v7?
L2406[23:48:22] <Cinder> strongARM?
L2407[23:48:32] <Pwootage> arm67?
;D
L2409[23:48:51] <Pwootage> gamax92:
nice
L2410[23:48:53] <gamax92> the first one
is my hand made palette and the second one is imagemagick's ...
thing it made
L2411[23:49:45] <Cinder> First one is
better for skin tones than the one I used in CC
L2412[23:49:49] <Cinder> but the hair is
still a little off
L2413[23:49:50] <ds84182> Cinder: I think
it's compat with v7
L2414[23:49:58] <Cinder> ah okay.
L2415[23:50:16] <Cinder> wait no ignore
me
L2416[23:50:22] <ds84182> I have gcc
compiling v7 compatible code without the emulator yelling at
me
L2417[23:50:31] <TabletCube>
Aropem?
L2418[23:50:45] <Pwootage> I really want
to try this out D:
L2419[23:50:46] <Cinder> Android for OC
confirmed?
L2420[23:51:03] <TabletCube> Cinder: not
enough memory
L2421[23:51:04] <Pwootage> Linux won't
run in this emu
L2422[23:51:11] <Cinder> 'tis a
joke
L2423[23:51:11] <Pwootage> it will run in
the x86 one, tho
L2424[23:51:27] <Cinder> Woah
L2425[23:51:29] <Cinder> that's
crazy
L2426[23:51:35] <Altenius> Sangar, does
computer.realTime() return the seconds in an integer or
double?
L2427[23:51:38] <Pwootage> *barely(
L2428[23:51:43] <TabletCube> Pwootage:
openwrt in OC?
L2429[23:52:12] <Pwootage> ds84182: am I
going to have to write malloc with your setup?
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L2431[23:52:34] <ds84182> Pwootage: you
should be able to have malloc as long as you make a valid version
of strbk
L2432[23:52:35] <Sangar> Altenius,
double
L2433[23:53:10] <Pwootage> ds84182: I can
make that (OS-level: fail. Process level: malloc in kernel, map
it.)
L2434[23:53:19] <Pwootage> Easiest method
is to just immediately fail to start
L2435[23:53:25] <Pwootage> iirc
L2436[23:53:52] <gamax92> Cinder: the
hair is off? i beg to differ! the hair was the first thing i
sampled for my hand made palette
L2437[23:54:04] <Cinder> No I was looking
at the wrong image
L2438[23:54:04] <ds84182>
s/strbk/sbrk
L2439[23:54:04] <Kibibyte>
<ds84182> Pwootage: you should be able to have malloc as long
as you make a valid version of sbrk
L2440[23:54:07] <Cinder> sorry gmax
L2441[23:54:10] <gamax92> ahh okay
L2442[23:54:10] <Cinder> gamax*
L2443[23:54:10] <gamax92> :P
L2444[23:54:41] <ShadowKatStudios> ._.
This doesn't even surprise me any more
L2445[23:55:42] <gamax92> also the 6502
architecture is quite useless :P
L2446[23:55:46] <Sangar> hmmm, Java
experts: if a class at compile time implements `interface IFace {
void f(double a); }`, but that interface is at *runtime* `interface
IFace { void f(int); }` will calls passing double fail or
succeed?
L2447[23:55:50] <gamax92> It ships with
ehbasic though.
L2448[23:55:51] <Pwootage> gamax92: BUT
IT WORKS
L2449[23:56:12] <Pwootage> Sangar: I
think that will fail
L2450[23:56:13] <Sangar> i.e. does the
call even care for the interface or just look at the actual
implementation?
L2451[23:56:13] <Cinder> 6502 should be
faster to emulate than x86 or ARM
L2452[23:56:30] <Pwootage> it looks for
the implementation I think, but it might not even load
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L2454[23:56:36] <Pwootage> I used to know
this
L2455[23:56:37] <v^> give me your
address
L2456[23:56:41] <v^> ill send
glitter
L2457[23:56:51] <v^> so the shit can get
all over your floor and cloths
L2458[23:56:54] <gamax92> lol
L2460[23:57:08] <gamax92> Cinder: the
6502 core is based off of Symon btw
L2461[23:57:11] <ds84182> Sangar: the
method signature would be different
L2462[23:57:13] <ds84182> so it would
fail
L2463[23:57:18] <Sangar> hmm.
deliberating whether to change an interface (used for an internal
class only) to change from int params to double (for screen
clicks)
L2464[23:57:34] <Pwootage> Sangar:
delegate?
L2465[23:57:52] <ds84182> the signature
would be vd (or something like that) while the other would be
vi
L2466[23:57:53] <Sangar> ds84182,
assuming the calling code was also compiled against the double
interface?
L2467[23:58:17] <Cinder> Sangar: Thinking
about implementing that feature request I put in?
L2468[23:58:17] <ds84182> Sangar: the
code would not compile as it would complain about a method not
being implemented
L2469[23:58:18] <Sangar> Pwootage, yeah,
guess that'd be the safe way
L2470[23:58:24] <Pwootage> You'll
probably get a really odd exception
L2471[23:58:24] <Sangar> Cinder,
yes
L2472[23:58:34] <Cinder> okie
dokie.
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L2474[23:59:07] <Cinder> The real reason
I wanted that feature was so that the half-char rendering method
wasn't totally useless for anything other than being pretty
L2475[23:59:12] <ds84182> I also think
java does checks on the interface when the class is loaded
L2476[23:59:20] <gamax92> TabletCube:
wooooooooooooooow ...
L2477[23:59:21] <Pwootage> ds84182: so
how long till I get to try this out? I'm getting super hyped
L2478[23:59:33] <Kasen> lol, CC
L2479[23:59:35] <ds84182> Pwootage: I
dunno, still testing it for bugs
L2480[23:59:38] <Sangar> ds84182, it
would - i mean specifically: class A implements IFace, class B
calls A.f, both compiled together. my main concern would be other
mods shipping the oc api, overwriting the interface at
runtime
L2481[23:59:51] <Sangar> ah well,
overloads ftw
L2482[23:59:58] <Cinder> I still do
recommend adding the functionality to a separate card or screen
addon to keep compatibility.
L2483[23:59:59] <Pwootage> ds84182: I can
helps! D: