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L8[00:06:54] <Pwootage> Not yet... not more
than like 5 lines and some planning
L9[00:11:37] <NixUmbreon|Phone> In that
case, maybe.
L10[00:11:44] <NixUmbreon|Phone> I have
such a big plan for mine...
L11[00:17:28] <Cassandra> OCJam? Damn, that
sounds fun
L12[00:17:36] <Cassandra> But I'm not
allowed to release any code I write. t.t
L13[00:17:47] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Why
not?
L14[00:18:02] <Cassandra> Contractual
obligations
L15[00:18:11] <NixUmbreon|Phone> ?
L16[00:18:32] <Cassandra> That's often the
cost of being a software engineer at such an enormous tech
organization.
L17[00:18:46] <NixUmbreon|Phone> So you
can't write open source code for anything at all?
L18[00:18:52] <progwml6> its something i
might have coming to me if i land one of these coops i'm trying
to
L19[00:19:52] <Cassandra> I can, but I have
to get approval
L20[00:19:55] <NixUmbreon|Phone> It could
also be construed to mean you can't use OpenComputers or
ComputerCraft in a multiplayer server (since others would have
access to your code)...
L21[00:20:21] <Cassandra> The only
multiplayer server I play on is Forgecraft, and I don't use
ComputerCraft. :p
L22[00:20:22] <Kodos> Cassandra, you're
contractually bound to ONLY write code for your company? Even when
you're not clocked in?
L23[00:20:46] <Cassandra> Without manager
approval, yes Kodos. That's how big software companies
operate.
L24[00:20:58] <ShadowKatStudios> *checks
logs*
L25[00:21:00] <Cassandra> With the
exception in this case being existing products.
L26[00:21:03] <Kodos> So if I asked you for
a hello world program in Lua, you legally couldn't give me
it?
L27[00:21:20] <Cassandra> Something that
small I could, yes.
L28[00:21:32] <Cassandra> And I can
certainly help people out
L29[00:21:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Was I
talking to you a couple of days ago about what company you work
at?
L30[00:21:39] <Cassandra> But I can't
distribute my code.
L31[00:21:47] <Cassandra> Not sure,
Shadow.
L32[00:21:58] <Cassandra> But what it comes
down to is
L33[00:22:06] <Cassandra> If the company
wasn't worth it, I wouldn't have accepted those terms.
L34[00:22:28] <Cassandra> And in this case,
the company is beyond worth it.
L35[00:22:30] <NixUmbreon|Phone> I can't
imagine not being able to code for fun.
L36[00:22:40] <Cassandra> Who said I
couldn't code for fun?
L37[00:22:46] <Cassandra> I program for fun
all the time still
L38[00:22:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Ohkay, I
definitely was talking to you the other day
L39[00:22:52] <Cassandra> I'm just not
allowed to distribute it.
L40[00:23:06] <SandraNicole> Cassandra: you
play on forgecraft?
L41[00:23:15] <Cassandra> Yes,
SandraNicole
L42[00:23:19] <NixUmbreon|Phone> What if
you make finished products in, say, Java? Are you allowed to
distribute the object code of those?
L43[00:23:38] <Cassandra> Not without
approval, NixUmbreon|Phone.
L44[00:23:51] <Cassandra> And again,
Minecraft mods? Not worth the effort to go through the approval
process.
L45[00:23:57] <SandraNicole> why are you
whitelisted on forgecraft, if you don't mind me asking?
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L47[00:24:05] <Cassandra> Because I was
invited?
L48[00:24:23] <Kodos> I think that the fact
that you can't distribute code of your own writing with no
relevance to your company without company approval is utter
bullshit, and I'd probably advise you to look over your contract
and look for other, equally absurd (Imo, I get that's how the
company works) things
L49[00:24:36] <NixUmbreon|Phone> ^
L50[00:24:37] <Cassandra> Kodos, I'm not
new to this scene.
L51[00:24:42] <Cassandra> This is how most
tech giants work.
L52[00:24:48] <Cassandra> And again
L53[00:24:58] <Cassandra> If I didn't think
it worth it, I wouldn't have accepted.
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L55[00:25:13] <Kodos> Is your annual salary
at least 6 digits?
L56[00:25:17] <Cassandra> Yes.
L57[00:25:29] <Kodos> Net? Or Gross
L58[00:25:50] <Cassandra> Net
L59[00:25:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I wouldn't
want to work at a place that does stuff like that, be it Apple,
Microsoft or Google.
L60[00:26:10] <Kodos> I wouldn't personally
care if it's a computer shop down the street, let alone those big
3, Shadow
L61[00:26:20] <ShadowKatStudios>
Indeed.
L62[00:26:20] <Cassandra> The point is, If
you don't like it? That's cool. Don't apply at Apple. But the work
I do is beyond worth it.
L63[00:26:28] <ShadowKatStudios> CALLED
IT
L64[00:26:30] <Cassandra> Besides, I'm not
all that interested in releasing much of what I do
L65[00:26:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Thought
so.
L66[00:26:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Knew it
was you I was talking to.
L67[00:26:50] <Kodos> Apple is slavery from
what I've spoken to my friend about it.
L68[00:26:54] <Kodos> She got out,
luckily
L69[00:27:05] <Cassandra> Nothing I've
experienced is anything close to that.
L70[00:27:31] <Kodos> Wait, are you legally
allowed to even admit working for Apple? Not sure how constricting
their contracts are
L71[00:27:38] <Cassandra> Yes, I am.
L72[00:27:44] <Kodos> Just checking
L73[00:27:53] <Cassandra> But none of this
is relevant in any way to anything, because it only affects
me.
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L76[00:31:42] <Kodos> Back in a bit, I need
more liquid dihydrogen monoxide.
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L79[00:41:37] <Kodos> Good lord, people are
stupid. Posted on StarMade's trading forum last night trying to
trade GodMode or Torchlight 2 for Starmade, woke up this morning to
3 people trying to scam-trade me thinking I'm some kind of
moron
L80[00:43:17] <Cassandra> >.>
L81[00:43:35] <Cassandra> Unfortunately
some people
are, so they'll keep it up.
L82[00:44:58] <ShadowKatStudios>
Scam-trade? Please elaborate.
L84[00:47:52] <Kodos> He offered 31 gems,
immediately declined, re offered, with nothing on his side
L85[00:48:12] <ShadowKatStudios> That's...
wow. People *are* stupid
L86[00:48:53] <Cassandra> It's very
possible that it's an automated bot making the attempt.
L87[00:49:07] <Cassandra> (But yes, people
are pretty stupid)
L88[00:50:42] <Kodos> Caitlyn, sorry to
ping you in the event you're not awake, but OpenLights can produce
colored light, right? Or is it just the color of the lamp + white
light
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L96[01:09:11] <PotatoTrumpet> Kodos: I
think he said it's not possiable
L97[01:09:17] <PotatoTrumpet> anyways
L98[01:09:19] <PotatoTrumpet> good
night
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L102[01:10:34] <NixUmbreon|Phone> ?
L103[01:11:41] <SandraNicole> what the
hell is that.
L104[01:12:27] <Caitlyn> Kodos, OpenLights
don't do colored light yet.
L105[01:12:36] <Kodos> Okay
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L107[01:12:57] <Caitlyn> I almost had it
working everything exploded... and I went back to the drawing
board.
L108[01:13:05] <Kodos> Ah
L109[01:13:10] <Caitlyn> Vexatos didn't
help any though... lol
L110[01:13:20] <Caitlyn> Seems
Computronics has a colored light...
L111[01:13:45] <Caitlyn> NixUmbreon|Phone,
there is a cormod for 1.7.10 that adds colored lighting to the
game..
L112[01:13:59] <Caitlyn> using that API
we're able to make lights make actual colored light
L113[01:14:35] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Ahh.
x3
L114[01:15:05] <SandraNicole> which
coremod is this?
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L118[01:17:04] <Caitlyn> Anyways I'm sick
as hell, tired as fuck, and need sleep.
L119[01:19:03] <robhol> NixUmbreon|Phone:
in general it does, lack of practice and all that. Lady Lovelace
wasn't half bad, though, so there are exceptions :p
L120[01:20:39] <NixUmbreon|Phone> robhol:
I don't stop coding because of a lack of IDE. Android has a
perfectly good text editor. :P
L121[01:21:02] <robhol> "lack of a
computer"... :p
L122[01:21:09] <robhol> that's QUITE
different, lol
L123[01:22:01] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Okay,
*temporary* lack of computer. :P
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L125[01:31:23] <ShadowKatStudios> gcc has
an ada compiler, doesn't it?
L126[01:31:43] <Cassandra> Even if you
don't have an editor handy, there are many practices that can keep
your mind sharp.
L127[01:31:55] <Cassandra> Writing code
itself is the easiest part of being a good prorammer
L128[01:32:06] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Well
yeah
L129[01:32:17] <NixUmbreon|Phone> And
debugging becomes insanely hard :P
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L153[03:34:16] <nalexander50> Looking for
some quick help. Trying to set up my first computer but I keep
getting the two-beeps error. Analyzer says that the EEPROM is not
configured. I am using the EEPROM spawned in creative mode but it
does not seem to work - still giving the same error. How do I go
about configuring the EEPROM?
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L155[03:36:34] <nalexander50> Looking for
some quick help. Trying to set up my first computer but I keep
getting the two-beeps error. Analyzer says that the EEPROM is not
configured. I am using the EEPROM spawned in creative mode but it
does not seem to work - still giving the same error. How do I go
about configuring the EEPROM?
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L159[03:50:37] <Kodos> Use the EEPROM
marked "Lua BIOS"
L160[03:51:17] <Kodos> Also, a lot of
stuff spawned in via creative/NEI can be prone to error, since some
things require you to actually build and/or program them
L161[03:51:25] <Kodos> We try to hide
things where we can, so that doesn't happen, but...
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L180[06:20:36] <Kodos> Time to start
coding my Admin Tablet program
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L188[06:45:08] <SandraNicole> help I need
something to do I'm boreeedddd!
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L196[07:13:10] <Ender> o/
L197[07:21:00] <Kodos> o7
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L201[07:26:20] <Vexatos> \o
L202[07:26:27] <Ender> o/
L203[07:27:05] <Ender> grr, my vps is
blocking ssh connections from my koding vps again ¬_¬
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L205[07:28:25] <Ender> well, no working on
EnderBot3 then
L206[07:30:50] <Ender> i really need to
sort my vps out because it dropping connections like that is
annoying
L207[07:31:12] <Kodos> Why not edit it
locally
L208[07:31:31] <Ender> Kodos: my main vps
has uncomited changes IIRC
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L210[07:35:25] <Ender> Meh, might as well
work on my portal site
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L217[07:46:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Gah, why
do no cheap RPi compatibles come with onboard flash?
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L229[08:09:03] *
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L231[08:09:52] <Vexatos> Too
high-res
L232[08:09:58] <Vexatos> my interweb can't
handle it
L233[08:11:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Nah,
mine can't, my ISP went cheap on my upload speed
L234[08:17:44] ***
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L250[09:13:28] <Caitlyn> -_-
L251[09:13:29] <Caitlyn> yay
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L255[09:15:55] <NixUmbreon|Phone> ...
Lovely crash, that.
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L259[09:21:25] <vifino> I have
awakened.
L260[09:21:43] <vifino> Or awoken?
o_o
L261[09:22:22] <ShadowKatStudios> awoken,
I believe.
L262[09:22:26] <ShadowKatStudios> How are
you?
L263[09:22:26] <vifino> Hello
ShadowKatStudios.
L264[09:22:32] <vifino> Ooh, perfect
timing.
L265[09:22:45] <vifino> I am bad ._.
L266[09:22:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Anything
I can help with?
L267[09:23:12] <vifino> No, but thank you
very much for asking.
L268[09:23:35] <Vexatos> vifino,
awokeninged
L269[09:23:46] <vifino> Vexatos:
ermgrd
L270[09:23:47] <Vexatos> Just FYI
L271[09:23:56] <NixUmbreon|Phone> vifino:
"gotten out of bed" :P
L272[09:24:03] <Vexatos> or got
L273[09:24:05] <Vexatos> Both worst
:3
L274[09:24:07] <Vexatos> works*
L276[09:25:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I spent
two hours today trying to get Macopix to compile
L277[09:25:14] *
Ender hugs vifino
L278[09:25:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Not sure
if it was worth it, but it's a thing
L280[09:25:24] *
vifino hugs Ender
L281[09:26:02] <Caitlyn> Grabbed a RPM for
Fedora 19, installed with a little work on 20.. heh
L282[09:26:05] ⇦
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L283[09:26:25] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
The slowiness is wow.
L284[09:26:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Caitlyn:
It seems to need some old stuff from libltdl and libtool, and arch
is basically using the latest version, so I had to copy the dir out
of an old archive from 2008 to make it compile
L285[09:26:36] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino:
MY INTERNET IS SHIT DEAL WITH IT
L286[09:26:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Sorry,
I've gotten that multiple times today
L287[09:26:47] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
:P
L288[09:26:55] <Caitlyn> Yeah I tried
compiling it was LOLTASTIC.
L289[09:27:26] <Caitlyn> was very happy to
find a semi recent rpm that used semi recent libs...
L290[09:27:42] <Vexatos> SKS: That
"poem" is missing a few syllables
L291[09:27:45] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
That note is awesome.
L292[09:28:40] <Caitlyn> I'm gonna put a
public caching proxy between myself and ShadowKatStudioss
website... and ask everyone to use it instead of the direct link...
so that people can view these images in less than 2 weeks.
L293[09:28:55] <vifino> Caitlyn: :P
L294[09:29:18] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino:
It's Wobbo's creation, but I liked it enough to save it.
L295[09:29:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Or I
could put the images on imgur.
L296[09:30:19] <Caitlyn> Yeah but wheres
the fun in that
L297[09:30:30] <ShadowKatStudios> I get to
keep my site?
L298[09:30:37] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
That would make it less fun, while 100x faster..
L299[09:30:38] <Caitlyn> You still get to
keep your site...
L300[09:30:58] <vifino> I vote for
Caitlyn's approach.
L301[09:31:00] <Caitlyn> the caching proxy
just saves content and serves it instead of fetching it from your
site directly
L302[09:31:34] <Caitlyn> first view is
slow, proxy caches, next view is fast.
L303[09:31:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
really, I can't stop you doing anything so...
L304[09:32:28] <Caitlyn> Man the only
downside to these little things is I can't keep all of my windows
maximized..
L305[09:32:37] <Caitlyn> cause then I lose
like 90% of the cute....
L306[09:33:06] <ShadowKatStudios> vifino:
Some context for the note: I hooked up my KVM this morning so I
could use both of my computers with one keyboard while having
separate monitors and then [2014-12-19 07:22:31]
<ShadowKatStudios> One keyboard to rule them all >:D
L307[09:33:23] <vifino> lol
L309[09:33:30] <ShadowKatStudios> (ofc
because my new motherboard is new I can't use only one mouse)
L310[09:33:49] <Caitlyn> Not a USB
KVM?
L311[09:34:04] <vifino> Yay kde!
L312[09:34:06] <ShadowKatStudios> The
whole maximised thing annoyed me so I got one that stayed properly
on top of the window so they're either there or not.
L313[09:34:12] <ShadowKatStudios> PS/2 and
VGA.
L314[09:34:21] <Caitlyn> Ahh.. yeah
L315[09:34:43] <Caitlyn> and yes vifino
kde for life
L316[09:34:51] <vifino> :P
L317[09:34:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway,
now I need to get a PS/2 to USB converter to reverse the effect of
the USB to PS/2 converter I need for the Haiku box.
L318[09:35:06] <Caitlyn> I added a 3rd
monitor and thought I was going to have to stab x though..
L319[09:35:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Then I
can have one mouse to rule them all!
L320[09:35:22] <ShadowKatStudios>
>:D
L321[09:35:27] <vifino> ._.
L322[09:36:22] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
KDE installed
L323[09:36:35] <ShadowKatStudios> cba to
configure it though, and I like my xfce anyway
L324[09:37:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Though
if any WM gave me BeOS-style window stacking I'd probably switch to
that.
L326[09:37:54] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
THE PUNS, THEY HURT!
L327[09:37:57] <vifino> :P
L328[09:38:02] <Caitlyn> I was confused
for a moment... my main task bar has ALL of my open windows on it..
then I remembered I never set it to only show programs open on that
screen
L329[09:38:40] <Caitlyn> I really wish
Skype didn't look like ass on linux though
L330[09:38:47] <ShadowKatStudios> I should
watch some anime and write some code or something.
L331[09:39:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Do I
still have my 3GB of chiptune..?
L332[09:39:23] <Vexatos> SKS: What have
you done
L333[09:39:32] <Vexatos> the puns
O_O
L334[09:39:41] <Caitlyn> oh neat... I can
set the mascot to a static X /y
L335[09:39:46] <Caitlyn> so I can sit her
on one of my taskbars.
L336[09:39:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Are they
sufficiently... punny, Vexatos?
L337[09:40:15] *
Vexatos puns SKS
L338[09:40:35] *
ShadowKatStudios has auto-hiding panels at the top of the screen,
no mascots are going to work there
L339[09:41:09] <Caitlyn> panels are at the
bottom for me, so it works perfect there.
L341[09:41:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Oooh,
Caitlyn, I have a 1650x1050 monitor (on another computer), too!
Except you can't make it work properly, there's like 20% of the
image off-screen because acer is shite
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L343[09:43:15] <Caitlyn> <3 my acer...
works fine for me :P
L344[09:43:37] <ShadowKatStudios> x223w is
dodgy as
L345[09:43:45] <ShadowKatStudios> My x193w
is quite good, though
L346[09:43:55] <Caitlyn> x223w is what I
have.
L347[09:44:20] <Caitlyn> 1920x180 for my
Vizio TV, 1680x1050 for my Acer, and a crappy V7 1440x900
L348[09:44:35] <ShadowKatStudios> I get
this weird thing where it's got part of the image off-screen
L349[09:44:53] <Caitlyn> is it cause
you're running it at 1650, and not 1680? :P
L351[09:45:34] <ShadowKatStudios>
waait
L352[09:45:36] <ShadowKatStudios>
what
L354[09:45:45] <ShadowKatStudios> hold on,
lemme boot haiku, it works properly with the monitor
L355[09:46:07] <Caitlyn> I really miss my
560..
L356[09:46:09] *
Caitlyn sighs
L357[09:48:08] <ShadowKatStudios> It *IS*
1680x1050!
L358[09:48:12] <ShadowKatStudios> That
makes sense.
L359[09:48:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I blame
the ATI drivers
L360[09:48:49] <Caitlyn> ATi is shit.. so
yeah
L361[09:49:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Ohhey,
it works!
L362[09:49:39] <Vexatos> a tea eye
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L364[09:50:51] <Caitlyn> Nice.
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L366[09:51:46] <NixUmbreon|Phone> :3
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L368[09:57:34] <Caitlyn> %flip ^
L369[09:57:35] <MichiBot> Caitlyn:
(╯°□°）╯︵Ɛ:
L370[10:00:28] *
Caitlyn stabs USB audio
L371[10:01:48] ***
DeanIsGone is now known as DeanIsaKitty
L372[10:02:10] <Ender> DeanIsaKitty:
\o/
L373[10:02:15] *
Ender hugs DeanIsaKitty
L374[10:02:26] *
DeanIsaKitty cuddles Ender
L375[10:02:43] <Caitlyn> great now output
works but input doesn't
L376[10:03:33] *
Caitlyn screams whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
L377[10:04:07] <Ender> Caitlyn: when in
doubt, nuke it
L378[10:04:43] <Caitlyn> I had to... I had
to switch to PulseAudio...
L379[10:04:45] *
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L380[10:11:49] ***
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L381[10:11:56] <ShadowKatStudios> sudo
pacman -R kde
L382[10:12:03] <ShadowKatStudios> fuck
this shit, it's broken all my default programs
L383[10:18:01] <DeanIsaKitty> ~~
plasma-next is the future ~~
L384[10:18:57] *
vifino hugs DeanIsaKitty
L385[10:19:06] *
DeanIsaKitty hugs vifino
L387[10:19:45] <vifino> Note to self: If
no charge left, get the fucking charger q_q
L388[10:19:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Has
anyone else noticed that both control-V and shift-insert paste from
the clipboard?
L389[10:19:46] ***
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L390[10:19:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Why the
redundancy?
L391[10:20:13] <DeanIsaKitty> 0.0
L392[10:20:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Is that your
window decoration ShadowKatStudios
L393[10:20:40] <DeanIsaKitty> *?
L394[10:20:40] <skyem123> Probably a mix
of windows stuff and UNIX stuff
L395[10:20:55] <skyem123> well windows and
early dos
L396[10:20:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
DeanIsaKitty: It's a program called Macopix
L398[10:21:36] ***
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L400[10:22:06] <DeanIsaKitty> I think both
Caitlyn and ShadowKatStudios are broken beyond repair... 0.0
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L402[10:22:40] <ShadowKatStudios> But...
but...
L403[10:22:51] <Caitlyn> v_v
L404[10:23:00] <ShadowKatStudios>
Actually, sure, why not?
L405[10:23:07] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
L406[10:23:30] <vifino> I'm also broken!
Yay! \o/
L407[10:23:46] <ShadowKatStudios>
DeanIsaKitty: You may be interested to note that I intend to
install it on my Windows 7 system once I buy this power cable
L408[10:24:04] <DeanIsaKitty> why 7?
L409[10:24:08] <Caitlyn> Yeah.. when I
reboot to Windows it's getting installed there too..
L410[10:24:26] <Kodos> Hope you're feeling
a bit better today Caitlyn
L411[10:24:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Because
I have a customised iso for Windows 7 Pro that has all the random
crap removed and Aero turned off.
L412[10:24:40] <Caitlyn> A bit, yes.
Thanks Kodos
L413[10:24:51] <Kodos> :3
L414[10:24:53] *
ShadowKatStudios offers vifino some tape
L415[10:25:05] <vifino> Tape? :o
L416[10:25:07] <Kodos> Anyone know a good
way to do menus and menu selection in Lua that isn't a wall of text
code
L417[10:25:11] ***
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L418[10:25:21] <ShadowKatStudios>
Functions and tables?
L419[10:25:34] <ShadowKatStudios>
Ohwait
L420[10:25:45] <ShadowKatStudios> never
mind
L421[10:26:01] <Kodos> I'm basically
making a tablet program for admins, for use with the debug
card
L422[10:26:04] *
vifino grabs tape and climbs down from a building with it while
doing the evil laugh
L423[10:26:16] <Kodos> Odd and end things
like weather control, summoning players, etc
L424[10:26:47] <ShadowKatStudios> I wonder
if I have a decent USB mouse with a laser anywhere here...
L425[10:26:56] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
using a mouse with a ball for my haiku box
L426[10:27:17] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios: i
find the windows 7 "basic" theme to look complete
shit
L427[10:27:36] <Caitlyn> ^^^
L428[10:27:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Ender:
It's far lighter than Aero, though.
L429[10:28:06] <Ender> you could just have
aero without the transparency
L430[10:28:37] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm not
using Aero. End of story.
L431[10:29:24] <vifino> I'm using i3
:o
L432[10:30:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Another
thing that annoyed me about KDE: The semi-transparent windows when
you moved them
L433[10:30:33] <Caitlyn> Don't have
those.. o_O
L434[10:30:39] <ShadowKatStudios> I turned
them off
L435[10:30:58] <Caitlyn> Well seems the
default was off for me.
L436[10:30:59] <Ender> \o/
L437[10:31:00] <Ender> \o/
L438[10:31:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Eh,
either way, I uninstalled KDE now so \o/
L439[10:31:15] <Ender> DeanIsaKitty:
\o/
L440[10:32:07] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Kodos:
The debug card is rather nice isn't it?
L441[10:32:21] <ShadowKatStudios> :( The
debug card is turned off on the enderverse
L442[10:32:32] <NixUmbreon|Phone> :c
L443[10:32:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Like
sure, potato and wer would have abused the shit out of it, but it
was my favourite method of teleportation
L444[10:32:52] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Kodos:
superlib has a basic crappy menu program in it
L445[10:33:11] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios:
if i could enable it for certain players i would
L446[10:33:32] <Ender> just dont want a
fuck tonne of floating grass blocks again ¬_¬
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L448[10:33:47] <SuPeRMiNoR2> my computer
just crashed with too long without yielding in the lua prompt,
lol
L449[10:33:59] <NixUmbreon|Phone> If
you're willing to wait, I could probably make something.
L450[10:34:00] <Ender> lol
L451[10:34:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Did we
ever figure out what caused that?
L452[10:34:19] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Kodos:
↑3
L453[10:34:22] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios:
no idea but i guessed it was the debug card cause it hasnt happened
since
L454[10:34:31] <ShadowKatStudios>
Indeed.
L455[10:34:31] <Kodos> Sure
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L457[10:34:52] <Caitlyn> Ender, I thought
the debug card was creative only?
L458[10:35:04] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Kodos:
And I mean wait. I'm about to start a three hour shift at
work.
L459[10:35:05] <Ender> Caitlyn: yes, my
server is also creative
L460[10:35:10] <Caitlyn> Oh... neat
L461[10:35:14] <ShadowKatStudios> I need
to fix up the SKSDev server
L462[10:35:21] <ShadowKatStudios>
DeanIsaKitty: Remind me tomorrow to fix my server
L463[10:35:27] <Kodos> NixUmbreon|Phone,
I'm in no rush, I leave in 3 hours for my wife's dr appointment,
after which I'll likely be asleep for 8ish hours anyway
L464[10:35:34] <ShadowKatStudios> please?
:P
L465[10:35:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Sure
L466[10:35:44] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
L467[10:35:54] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Kodos:
Ok!
L468[10:36:17] ***
NixUmbreon|Phone is now known as NixUmbreon|AtWork
L469[10:36:21] <Kodos> I still need to
check out the changes to Space Engineers and Elite dangerous today,
too
L470[10:36:27] <Kodos> And finish my MC
projects
L471[10:36:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Damn
space engineers
L472[10:36:38] <ShadowKatStudios> $2 out
of my pricerange
L473[10:36:42] *
CompanionCube does not has.
L474[10:36:47] <Vexatos>
s/range/rage
L475[10:36:48] <Kibibyte>
<ShadowKatStudios> $2 out of my pricerage
L476[10:36:54] ***
Cruor|Away is now known as Cruor
L477[10:36:58] *
ShadowKatStudios rages at Space Engineers
L478[10:37:17] <Kodos> ShadowKatStudios,
at least there's the holiday sale
L479[10:37:21] <Kodos> I'm holding out for
StarMade
L481[10:37:40] <ShadowKatStudios> The
StarMade demo is free and works quite well
L482[10:38:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Maybe
I'll spend another $25 to get $20 worth of Steam credit and obtain
StarMade and Space Engineers
L484[10:38:28] -Kibibyte- [Vexatos] AWOLGABEN -
SALE | by WnrLHRglq5fIg4ovE-UB9g | 3m5s | 27w1d ago | 1,169,503
views | Rated:
4.96/5.00
L485[10:38:54] <ShadowKatStudios>
heh
L486[10:38:56] <ShadowKatStudios>
heheheheh
L487[10:40:21] <vifino> Vexatos:
Yes.
L488[10:41:11] <Stary2001> heheh
L489[10:41:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyone
else here know that game Digital: A Love Story? Because the
soundtrack is awesome.
L490[10:41:56] <vifino> Stary2001:
pls
L492[10:42:07] <ShadowKatStudios>
Unrelated cat video
L493[10:42:28] <vifino> Vexatos: I played
that video on plug.dj. I got lot's o woots
L494[10:42:55] <Vexatos> I showed them to
a couple of classmates
L495[10:43:00] <Vexatos> Got lots of woots
as well
L496[10:43:04] <Vexatos> and wtfs
L497[10:43:06] <Stary2001> Ha
L498[10:43:07] <Vexatos> and "oh so
true"
L499[10:43:28] <Vexatos> because I showed
it mostly to people just having spent €30 in summer sale
L500[10:43:37] <Vexatos> at least
L501[10:44:11] <ShadowKatStudios> firefox
pls
L502[10:44:13] <ShadowKatStudios> work
properly
L503[10:44:25] <Vexatos> "How this
music can get 36 million views while there are 7 million people on
Earth?"
L504[10:44:26] <ShadowKatStudios> you have
plenty of RAM to nom :(
L505[10:44:57] <vifino> Vexatos: g.
g.
L506[10:45:46] <Vexatos> Some comment
underneath this video:
L508[10:45:48] -Kibibyte- [Vexatos] Sandstorm |
by kevman1430 | 3m47s | 458w4d ago | 39,822,910 views | Rated:
4.77/5.00
L509[10:45:54] <Vexatos> Most comments are
"What's the name of this song"
L510[10:53:22] <ShadowKatStudios> I just
saw the Beginner Turtles in ComputerCraftEDU
L511[10:53:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Faith in
humanity lost
L512[10:54:21] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, lolwhy?
L513[10:54:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Shitty
GUI programming
L514[10:54:44] <ShadowKatStudios> ie
programming by dragging stuff
L515[10:54:54] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, want some jython sorcery/
L517[10:55:13] <DeanIsaKitty>
ShadowKatStudios: Its a good way to *start* to be fair
L518[10:55:23] <Vexatos> DeanIsaKitty, a
good way is flowcharts
L519[10:55:33] <DeanIsaKitty> ?
L520[10:56:15] <Inari> ShadowKatStudios:
UI programming is good to start out with i suppose
L521[10:56:20] <Inari> since you dont have
to leanr a syntax or something
L522[10:56:22] <Inari> its more
intuitive
L523[10:56:34] <Inari> plus well.. theres
blueprint xD
L524[10:57:40] <CompanionCube> Just don't
start with GameMaker.
L526[10:59:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Know
what else I notice about GUI stuff like that?
L527[10:59:57] <ShadowKatStudios> It's
always for writing games >.<
L528[11:00:14] <DeanIsaKitty> ^ Thats the
bad part
L529[11:00:44] <Inari> ShadowKatStudios:
well its actually quite nice for a lto of things :D
L530[11:01:21] <Inari> ShadowKatStudios:
whats the issue of it being for games?
L531[11:01:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I didn't
say there was an issue with it, I just noted that most of them were
focused on doing so
L533[11:02:59] <dangranos> hi
L534[11:13:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Ender:
beep -r -1
L535[11:13:50] <ShadowKatStudios>
Actually
L536[11:13:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Can beep
take negative arguments?
L537[11:14:13] *
Ender shrugs
L538[11:14:19] <Vexatos> SKS: No
L539[11:14:24] <Ender> that wasnt my post,
go comment on it :P
L540[11:14:29] <Vexatos> freq has to be
between 20 and 2000
L541[11:14:35] <Vexatos> duration between
0.05 and 5
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L543[11:14:39] <Vexatos> I think
L544[11:14:42] <Ender> Vexatos: he's
talking about RL computers
L545[11:14:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Vexatos:
That's repetitions
L546[11:14:48] <Vexatos> Ender, noone
cares
L547[11:14:51] <Vexatos> We are in #oc
here
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L549[11:15:44] <Ender> Vexatos: yes, #oc
which is usually off topic
L550[11:16:17] <Vexatos> .meow
L551[11:16:25] <dangranos> .fail?
L552[11:16:29] <Vexatos> .meow.
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L554[11:17:00] <Vexatos> Found it
L555[11:17:01] <Vexatos> "I come
online, and I get thrown, now I get eaten! What is wrong with this
place! ~Wobbo 2014 not knowing the purpose of #oc"
L556[11:17:14] <Vexatos> Somewhere inside
fails
L557[11:17:44] <Ender> lol
L558[11:18:03] <Ender> .stats
L559[11:18:05] <Ender> oh right
L560[11:18:10] <Ender> my bot died when
esper did
L561[11:18:14] <Ender> ¬_¬
L563[11:18:48] <dangranos> will bot be
revived?
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L565[11:19:10] <Ender> my bot? yes, when i
get home and can (hopefully) ssh into my vps to restart it
L566[11:19:18] <Caitlyn> CLEAR
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L568[11:19:34] *
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L569[11:19:48] <Vexatos>
defridgerators?
L570[11:19:52] <dangranos> ^
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L572[11:20:14] <dangranos> i really want
some bash.org-like site for #oc
L573[11:20:17] <Ender>
defibrillator*
L574[11:20:29] <Vexatos>
defribbleator
L575[11:20:42] <gamax92>
defraginator
L576[11:20:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Woo, top
of stats for #oc
L577[11:21:01] <Ender> ShadowKatStudios:
you've been there for a while
L578[11:21:07] <ShadowKatStudios> I
know.
L579[11:21:19] <ShadowKatStudios> But now
I'm >1k above the next best
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L582[11:21:42] <dangranos> #oc for
hyperboria?
L583[11:21:55] <ShadowKatStudios>
hyperboria?
L584[11:22:13] <dangranos> sec
L586[11:22:28] <Ender> heh, the top 4 on
the stats are like ~1k apart from each other
L587[11:22:45] <ShadowKatStudios>
oooh
L588[11:23:21] <ShadowKatStudios> So
DeanIsaKitt_y is the most referenced nick.
L589[11:23:28] <Ender> home time
L590[11:23:58] <dangranos> >dangranos_
wrote the shortest lines, averaging 14.2 characters per line.
L591[11:24:12] <dangranos> but i dont
think it counts
L592[11:24:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Sangar:
Only 4 thousand more words and I will have beaten you!
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L594[11:28:57] <dangranos> aaand i forgot
firefox sync password, again
L595[11:29:47] <Csstform> gg
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L599[11:44:42] <dangranos> znc is
awesome
L600[11:44:49] <DeanIsaKitty> duh :D
L601[11:45:10] <dangranos> todo - switch
rpi power to more permanent
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L605[11:49:54] <CompanionCube> lol on
reddit: 'our cdn was unable to reach our servers'
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L607[11:54:54] <ShadowKatStudios> fscking
hell
L608[11:55:04] <ShadowKatStudios> USBs
refuse to mount read/write
L609[11:55:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
fuck you too.
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L611[11:56:48] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, is it black magic to have win7 ultimate running
on 10GB disk and 512MB RAM?
L612[11:56:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Note to
self: In future, format USBs with real filesystems
L613[11:57:09] <ShadowKatStudios>
CompanionCube: Yes, minimum install of Windows is like 20GB'
L614[11:57:23] <ShadowKatStudios> (Lies,
it's about 8GB with Professional once trimmed)
L615[11:57:31] <ShadowKatStudios>
(9.5GB)
L616[11:57:43] <CompanionCube>
ShadowKatStudios, disk size is 6GB reported by VMWare
L617[11:57:54] <ShadowKatStudios>
VMWare?
L618[11:57:58] <ShadowKatStudios>
:<
L619[11:58:20] <CompanionCube>
suprisingly, VBox is actually smoother on my system
L620[11:58:47] <CompanionCube> VMWare
keeps causing full system freezes. As in, everything stops. Even
the clock.
L621[11:59:01] <ShadowKatStudios>
lel
L622[11:59:23] <ShadowKatStudios>
Anyway
L623[11:59:27] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
places to be tomorrow
L624[11:59:41] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
gonna go.
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L664[13:42:38] <Wobbo> o/
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L668[13:56:16] <Wobbo> Welp, no-one
here?
L669[13:58:16] <Ender> nop
L670[13:58:25] *
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L671[13:58:31] <Wobbo> Hi Dean!
L672[13:58:54] <Wobbo> Ender: Was that an
affirmative nop or a negative nop?
L673[13:59:06] <Ender> Wobbo:
"nop"
L674[13:59:37] <Ender> also i'm getting
pissed off with my vps because it keeps locking me out from
ssh
L675[13:59:41] <Wobbo> But nop means sort
of like no right? At least thats how I would use it in dutch
L676[14:00:10] *
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L677[14:00:41] *
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L679[14:01:36] *
DeanIsaKitty cuddles Ender
L680[14:02:33] <Wobbo> Are you being mean
again CompanionCube? I think you just need to be loved!
L681[14:02:36] *
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L682[14:02:49] *
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L683[14:02:59] <Vexatos> Wobbo, don't do
it!
L685[14:03:00] -Kibibyte- [Vexatos] Game Theory:
Portal's Companion Cube has a Dark Secret | by matthewpatrick13 |
11m59s | 81w5d ago | 4,845,181 views | Rated:
4.89/5.00
L686[14:03:16] *
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L687[14:03:22] <Wobbo> Vexatos: I already
new that. But this CompanionCube does speak
L688[14:03:31] <Vexatos> Even
scarier
L689[14:03:43] *
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L691[14:06:29] <Ender> hmm, cant think of
a good hostname to give to the ubuntu vps i'm about to spin
up
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L693[14:06:56] <SuPeRMiNoR2> BadOS?
L694[14:07:01] <Ender> no
L695[14:07:04] *
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L697[14:07:25] <Wobbo> Ender: Ubuntu means
"Human Kindness"
L698[14:07:26] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i would have
superbot slap you but he is not here
L699[14:08:12] <Wobbo> -ntu means
person/human being
L700[14:08:18] <Wobbo> Ubunder?
L701[14:08:44] <Ender> eh
L702[14:11:01] <Ender> going with
Anquietas.theender.net for now
L703[14:11:12] <Ender> this is mainly
gonna be a test vps
L704[14:15:20] <Vexatos>
polybotes.theender.net
L705[14:15:23] <Vexatos> Hurr hurr
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L715[14:35:03] <Wobbo> Vexatos: You're
good with Scala, right?
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L717[14:35:22] <Vexatos> Wobbo, I never
used it
L718[14:35:30] <Wobbo> Oh, nvm then
:P
L719[14:35:32] <Vexatos> but I
successfully ported some Scala code to Java
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L721[14:35:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Wobbo: I
think you want Kilo_byte :P
L722[14:36:05] <Wobbo> But he isn't here
now, isn't he?
L723[14:36:25] <Wobbo> I wanted him
anyway, cause he needs to shout at my horribly written parser and
tokenizer
L724[14:36:37] <Kilobyte> hm?
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L726[14:36:44] <DeanIsaKitty> :3
L727[14:37:22] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: I wrote a
small bc like program in Scala, you want to shout at me because it
is hooribly broken?
L728[14:37:28] <^vPhone> TIL im allergic
to almonds
L729[14:37:38] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: i can try
my best
L731[14:38:04] <Wobbo> ^vPhone: that
doesn't sound like a fun day
L732[14:38:38] <^vPhone> It's a tiny
allergy
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L734[14:40:17] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: that
won't run
L735[14:40:42] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: It runs
for me. CalcCLI is the main class
L736[14:40:53] <Wobbo> Is Main.scala still
in there?
L737[14:41:07] <Kilobyte> yes
L738[14:41:10] <Kilobyte> List()
L739[14:41:18] <Kilobyte> change that to
List.empty[String]
L740[14:41:56] <Kilobyte> also, you may
want to slap on the @tailrec annotation
L741[14:42:15] <Kilobyte> also, this line
looks bad
L742[14:42:17] <Kilobyte> c.toString ::
tokenize(t)
L743[14:42:29] <Kilobyte> you should avoid
non-tail recursion
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L745[14:43:33] <Wobbo> How would you write
that tail recursive?
L746[14:44:19] <Wobbo> Unless you would
use a accumulator of course
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L750[14:46:02] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: put
second function inside function
L751[14:46:11] <Kilobyte> like
tokenizeImplementation
L752[14:46:16] <Kilobyte> with a second
string param
L753[14:46:25] <Kilobyte> and do the
adding before returning the list
L754[14:46:41] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: scalac is
smart enough to turn tail recursion into iteration
L755[14:46:52] <Wobbo> Yeah, so with an
accumulator.
L756[14:46:53] <vifino> ^vPhone is alergic
to greetings.
L757[14:47:01] <vifino> Hello there,
^vPhone.
L758[14:47:04] <Kilobyte> therefore a tail
recursion cannot cause stack overflows
L759[14:52:27] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: You mean
like: tokenizeImpl(t.dropWhile(_.isLetter), c +:
t.takeWhile(_.isLetter) :: acc)
L760[14:52:35] <Wobbo> Where acc is the
accumulator?
L761[14:59:25] <^vPhone> So that explains
why the oil shit my mom gave me made it harder to breathe instead
of easier
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L775[15:22:30] <Kodos> Christ how fucking
hard is it to answer a simple question instead of dodging it for 6
months
L776[15:23:09] <NixUmbreon|Phone> ?
L777[15:23:25] <Kodos> Are you familiar
with any of ProfMobius' mods
L778[15:23:29] <NixUmbreon|Phone> There's
suddenly a lunch rush here. xD And no.
L779[15:23:47] <Kodos> Well for ModJam 4,
he and his team did a mod called RPGAdv
L780[15:23:52] <Kodos> And it had/has
terrible networking code
L781[15:24:21] <Kodos> I've been asking
him about whether or not it will be updated and fixed, and he's
been completely silent on the issue, sans one tweet about asking
his team about it and telling me 'tomorrow'
L782[15:24:34] <Kodos> The mod itself was
ported to 1.7.10, but with the existing shit code
L783[15:25:13] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: I changed
the things you mentioned, do you have other advice?
L784[15:25:30] <gamax92> Wodos or
Kobbo
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L786[15:25:44] <Kodos> Way to go, you
killed him
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L790[15:31:22] <Wobbo> God damn my
internet connection!
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L792[15:34:15] <Wobbo> But Kilobyte, did
you have more advice?
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L794[15:34:57] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: not
really
L795[15:36:44] <Wobbo> I expected a lot of
screaming at the tokenizer and parser, since you screamed at my
earlier attempts at those :P
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L797[15:41:25] <Wobbo> Alright then,
pushed changes
L798[15:43:14] <Kodos> Mwahahahaha
L799[15:43:20] <Kodos> I've done
things
L800[15:44:56] <Vexatos> Alright, I'll be
gone for the next 4 days, vacation :|
L801[15:45:18] <Vexatos> Bye O/
L802[15:45:38] <Kodos> o/
L803[15:46:16] <Wobbo> Bye!
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L815[15:56:51] <Merlin> hello from my
Ubuntu VPS
L816[15:58:04] <Kodos> Oh it works
now?
L817[15:58:12] <Merlin> ?
L818[15:58:20] <Kodos> You said you were
having issues with it
L819[15:58:36] <Merlin> that was on my
main one
L820[15:58:43] <Kodos> Ah
L821[15:58:46] <Merlin> this is a new one
i just started up
L822[15:59:13] <Kodos> If I could find the
charger to my netbook, I'd stick linux on the thing
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L827[16:08:45] <NixUmbreon|Phone> ~w
require
L828[16:08:48] <NixUmbreon|Phone>
...?
L829[16:09:03] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Where's
ocdoc?
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L831[16:11:39] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L832[16:11:44] <Kodos> QWOP is hard
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L836[16:17:16] <NixUmbreon|Phone> okay, so
I feel clueless right now
L837[16:17:34] <NixUmbreon|Phone> I'm
trying to make a module.
L838[16:18:03] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Is there
any special code I have to put in the lua file or will it just be
able to load the functions directly from the file?
L839[16:19:01] <NixUmbreon|Phone> For
example, if I do a file named modtest.lua and its contents
are
L840[16:19:14] <NixUmbreon|Phone> function
testFunction() return "Hello world!" end
L841[16:19:23] <NixUmbreon|Phone> can I
do
L842[16:20:00] <NixUmbreon|Phone> m =
require("modtest") print(m.testFunction())
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L844[16:24:53] <Caitlyn> ocdoc may be here
in a second...
L845[16:24:54] <Caitlyn> there it
is.
L846[16:27:00] <Kilobyte>
NixUmbreon|Phone: depends. if you have a /lib/modtest.lua and it
returns a table containing a function called testFunction, you
can
L847[16:27:24] <Kilobyte> you probably
want to do this instead:L
L848[16:27:32] <Kilobyte> local function
testFunction() return "Hello world!" end
L849[16:27:41] <Kilobyte> return
{testFunction = testFunction}
L850[16:28:50] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Back
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L857[16:46:31] <Wobbo> Guys, how can I
make a function block in Scala until the user has entered enter
into a JTextField?
L858[16:47:44] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Can a
function in lua return a function, and then the second function be
immediately called?
L859[16:48:09] <NixUmbreon|Phone> For
example...
L860[16:48:15] <Wobbo> NixUmbreon|Phone:
fRetF(args1)(args2)
L861[16:48:54] <NixUmbreon|Phone> function
test() return function() return "Hello World" end end
test()()
L862[16:49:18] <NixUmbreon|Phone> that
would return "Hello World", correct?
L863[16:49:37] <Wobbo> NixUmbreon|Phone:
You can't immidiatly call a named function I believe, but test ()()
would
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L865[16:50:14] <NixUmbreon|Phone> I
believe you can immediately call a named function. The only
restriction is that it can't be called before it's defined.
L866[16:51:15] <NixUmbreon|Phone> So you
can't put "test()()" at the start of that code, only the
end.
L867[16:51:36] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Now a
slightly more advanced case...
L868[16:51:55] <Wobbo> NixUmbreon|Phone: I
meant (function name() something end)()
L869[16:52:35] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Lemme
write that code with linespacing on pastebin. Brb.
L870[16:55:41] <Dashkal> Has anybody
released a network stack? Basic send this to that computer when
there's a stream of connections somehow.
L871[16:56:07] <Wobbo> Dashkal: I believe
someone even put that onto a loot disk
L872[16:56:16] <NixUmbreon|Phone> ...
fucking mobile browser...
L873[16:56:18] <Dashkal> Did they? Lemme
check those
L874[16:56:21] <NixUmbreon|Phone> just
deleted my code D:<
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L876[16:57:29] <Dashkal> Wobbo: Woot!
Danke for the tip
L877[16:57:34] <Wobbo> yw
L878[16:57:53] <Dashkal> I want to write
myself a little generic monitoring thing, but I wasn't quite as
excited about having to do the routing
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L881[17:02:58] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: do you
know stuff about threading in Scala?
L882[17:03:54] <Dashkal> >.>
L883[17:04:41] <Dashkal> Many use Akka for
concurrency in Scala. Personally, I like my stuff to be more
deterministic. scalaz's Task is what I'm investingating.
L884[17:05:11] <Wobbo> Dashkal: Did you
see my calculator in Scala?
L885[17:05:21] <Wobbo> Cause that is what
I need help with
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L888[17:05:52] <Dashkal> I haven't no. I
can only do one-off questions, I'm afraid. I'm IRCing from work
:P
L889[17:06:33] <NixUmbreon|Phone> I was
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L891[17:06:46] <Wobbo> Ah, I'm trying to
create a GUI for the calc and I nead a read function that functions
like Scala's readLine. It will read from a JTextField
L892[17:06:51] <Wobbo> Dashkal: ^
L893[17:08:18] <Dashkal> That seems...
backwords. You have your calculations happening outside of the EDT
I assume? My answer to that is to have the JTextField synchronizing
its text to some threadsafe container. The calculation thread will
read from it at the appropriate time (I presume it'll be triggered
by a button click (=, +, -, etc))
L894[17:08:24] <Dashkal> Yes, I nested my
parens in english.
L895[17:08:55] <Wobbo> Dashkal: I want to
use the same repl for the CLI and the GUI, that is why it is that
way
L896[17:09:32] <Dashkal> The CLI interface
to it would work exactly the same way. On enter, write to the
volatile space. Fire the trigger message.
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L899[17:11:07] <Wobbo> The CLI just uses
readLine and println, so I'm not waiting manually there.
L900[17:11:27] <Dashkal> Erm, if you're
going to try to hang on the EDT, you're setting yourself up for the
long way around.
L901[17:11:30] <Dashkal> Ok then
L902[17:12:22] <Dashkal> Have a pair of
concurrent queues. These are your interface into/out of the event
dispatch thread. Your calculator writes results to the to pipe, and
reads commands from the in pipe. A read on an empty concurrent
queue may block (pick your implementation so this is the
case).
L903[17:13:07] <Dashkal> Yes, this is just
java.util.concurrent, but you're dealing with swing, so normal jvm
concurrency methods apply
L904[17:13:22] <Wobbo> I have no real
experience with threading, so I really wouldn't know how to
implement that :/
L905[17:13:30] <Caitlyn> 7106
L906[17:13:36] <Caitlyn> ha... not
ssh
L907[17:13:59] <Dashkal> Erm. I'm afraid
the help I'd have to give is more in depth than I have the time for
right now :(
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L909[17:14:36] <Wobbo> Alright, thanks for
the help, will do some googling!
L910[17:15:01] <Dashkal> Base JVM
concurrency is shit. You will bleed, and it will suck :P
L911[17:15:12] <Dashkal> I tend to work at
a much more abstracted layer.
L912[17:16:41] <Dashkal> I avoid
concurrency altogether wherever possible and instead focus on
parallelism. The difference in a nutshell: Concurrency is when you
have multiple mostly independant tasks that share state (or pass
messages). Parallelism is when you have a piece of code that can be
broken up into parallel streams that only need to merge at the end,
and so you set them on different threads.
L913[17:17:31] <Wobbo> Dashkal: Yeah, but
I really need to get input from the user, so I will need to wait :(
Otherwise I don't do concurrency either
L914[17:17:59] <Dashkal> Well that's the
thing. I can't help but feel you're doing this backwords. Don't
wait on the user. Have the user start the process.
L915[17:18:42] <Dashkal> You don't even
need that background thread to exist until the user actually clicks
something.
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L917[17:18:50] <Dashkal> Though you may
want it on standby (see ExecutorService)
L918[17:19:28] <Wobbo> I might try it your
way. Might indeed be easier
L919[17:20:21] <Dashkal> Just be advised
that standard EDT rules apply. Never block in the event dispatch
thread. Never. There are tutorials on how to smuggle data in and
out.
L920[17:20:39] <Dashkal> To smuggle it
out, just submit the task to your executor service. To get it back,
there's a function available in swing somewhere to run code back in
the EDT.
L921[17:21:09] <Dashkal> If you want to
stop the user from doing anything to the UI while busy, disable
everything while teh task runs. Don't block.
L922[17:21:23] <Dashkal> Blocking leads to
things like windows thinking your app died.
L923[17:21:54] <Dashkal> The other rule:
To save yourself untold amounts of pain. Only pass immutable data
between threads. Seriously. Only pain and suffering comes of shared
mutable data.
L924[17:22:19] <Dashkal> If you absolutely
must, then go with total hand-off. The thread sending must drop
every single reference to the thing sent.
L925[17:22:48] <Dashkal> (This is easy to
screw up, hence the suggestion to stick to immutable data)
L926[17:23:40] <gamax92> Jermany
L927[17:23:55] <Dashkal> SwingUtilities
has the methods to get in/out. SwingUtilities.invokeLater(...) I
believe. It's in the Javadoc.
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L930[17:34:26] <Wobbo> Dashkal: I now
removed the Repl so I won't have to shoehorn the GUI into the same
framework as the CLI
L931[17:38:09] <Wobbo> Dashkal: It works
now, Thanks!
L932[17:39:05] <Dashkal> :D
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L935[17:42:48] <Dashkal> screaming is
always good encouragement :P
L937[17:43:31] <Dashkal> I learned much
from the authors of that book (and from the book itself)
L938[17:44:16] <Dashkal> Runar in
particular has been known to hang out in IRC. So I've been able to
pick his brain directly
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L941[17:45:45] <Wobbo> Dashkal: I'm not
really looking for FP books, I have a haskell one for that, Does
this mostly go into Scala?
L942[17:46:15] <Dashkal> It's exactly what
the title says. FP using Scala as the medium
L943[17:46:47] <Dashkal> It does not
assume any particular amount of Scala knowledge (it introduces
syntax as it goes)
L944[17:53:15] <Sangar> o/
L945[17:53:37] <Wobbo> Hi Sangar :D
L946[17:53:51] <Sangar> evening :)
L947[17:53:56] <Dashkal> Good
evening
L949[17:55:08] <Sangar> cute
L950[17:55:59] <Dashkal> Now let me
terrify you: Go implement that as an interepeter driven in the free
monad :P
L951[17:56:02] <thisischrys> let me submit
a pull request
L952[17:56:04] <Sangar> maybe use apply
instead of eval? then you can just do e(v) instead of
e.eval(v)
L953[17:56:29] <Dashkal> (Secret:
Terrifying words hiding a dead simple thing)
L954[17:59:37] <Wobbo> Dashkal: I don't
know what that means, so that does sound terrifying, but Monads in
Haskell sounded terrifyig the first time as well
L955[18:00:05] <Dashkal> The Free monad is
really just the monad laws alone turned into a type. So a monad
'free' of any kind of context.
L956[18:00:20] <Dashkal> So about all your
left with is sequencing and lifting into context. What context? You
pass that in.
L957[18:00:37] <Wobbo> Sangar: That does
sound nice, but so much refactoring :P
L958[18:00:46] <Dashkal> A nifty thing
about this is it lends itself to writing interpreters very very
simply.
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L960[18:01:03] <Sangar> that doesn't even
begin to qualify as "much" :P
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L962[18:01:29] <Dashkal> Since, you know,
an interpreter really is just "take this value and care in the
simulation" (return/pure/point/whatever), and "do these
things in order" (bind/flatMap)
L963[18:02:35] <Wobbo> Sangar: Yeah, only
two lines to change :P
L964[18:02:54] <Dashkal> Your poor
fingers!
L965[18:04:41] <Wobbo> Dashkal: typeing de
is a lot of work! #VIMMasterRace :P
L966[18:05:10] <Dashkal> Heh. I love me my
vim. But for Scala, I use IDEA.
L967[18:05:27] <Dashkal> I'm considering
climbing the Emacs mountain. There's some very good tooling
available there.
L968[18:06:09] <Wobbo> IDEA with vim
plugin :P
L969[18:06:30] <Wobbo> Dashkal: I heard
that Emacs finally got a decent editor in the OS, evil mode
:P
L970[18:06:34] <Dashkal> That can work.
Though I know IDEA's keybinds inside and out, so I'd be loathe to
switch.
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L972[18:07:43] <Wobbo> I only installed
IDEA last saturday and immidiatly activated the vim plugin, so at
least the editor works as I would expect.
L973[18:08:01] <Dashkal> Fair
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L975[18:08:14] <Dashkal> I moved to IDEA
from Eclipse. Decided to just eat the elephant and learn the new
keybinds.
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L977[18:08:55] <Wobbo> How did the
elephant taste?
L978[18:08:59] <Dashkal> I'll do it again
with emacs when I finally go there. I feel no need to keep the vim
binds just to avoid some learning.
L979[18:09:24] <Dashkal> ... I got nuttin.
Sorry
L980[18:10:15] <Wobbo> What is Scals top
level number type?
L981[18:11:04] <Dashkal> AnyVal
L982[18:11:17] <Dashkal> You're into
dangerous territory asking that question
L983[18:11:51] <Dashkal> If you want to
abstract in that manner, Spire may be what you need.
L984[18:12:07] <Dashkal> The standard
"OOP" abstractions over numbers are pretty
worthless.
L985[18:12:32] <Dashkal> If you want to
keep things straightforward, just go with BigDecimal and call it
good.
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L990[18:13:02] <Dashkal> Not sure how much
of my answer you got
L991[18:13:04] <Wobbo_> \nick Wobbo
L992[18:13:13] <Wobbo_> Dashkal:
none
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L996[18:13:35] <Dashkal> Your question is
wrong. The built in "OOP" over numbers is terrible.
L997[18:13:51] <Dashkal> If you really
want to abstract over math concepts, the Spire library is there.
Suggest just using BigDecimal
L998[18:13:54] <Wobbo> Dashkal: So there
is no Class that both Double and Int belong to?
L999[18:14:24] <Dashkal> Not that I'm
aware of. That said, I never looked. Not a way I'd abstract my
numbers.
L1000[18:15:12] <Wobbo> I want the
calculator to have a higher precision, so 1/3 turns into 1/3 and
not into 0.33333333333333
L1001[18:15:51] <Wobbo> So I need some
kind of class that the Exprs can return and that can be used for
Val
L1002[18:15:52] <Dashkal> Yeah, Spire may
be what you need. It has proper Rational instances if I remember
correctly
L1003[18:16:11] <Dashkal> A Rational is
just a pair of ints
L1004[18:16:44] <Wobbo> I know, there is
an implementation in Scala by Example
L1005[18:16:47] <Dashkal> Of course there
are fewer Rationals than Reals.
L1006[18:17:10] <Dashkal> Rephrased:
Using Rational preserves accuracy with rational numbers, but you
lose things like sqrt, pi, e, and the like
L1007[18:17:40] <Wobbo> I know, so that
is why I want both Doubles and Rationals.
L1008[18:18:23] <Dashkal> And I repeat,
your question was wrong. You're trying to use OOP style abstraction
in a way that it doesn't really work (kinda like slamming a round
peg through a square hole with a sledgehammer)
L1009[18:18:53] <Dashkal> Spire has
typeclasses that let you abstract over the operations (and laws) of
+,-,*,/ (and more I believe, never dug into it)
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L1011[18:22:28] <Wobbo> External
libraries D: Then I have to look into how to build real software
D:
L1012[18:22:52] <Ditchbuster> is znc
pretty straight forward to install? anyone use it? someone
mentioned it earlier today
L1013[18:23:23] <Dashkal> Wobbo: Or learn
to write them yourself. The basic set up to +,-,*,/ are mostly
straightforward group theory.
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L1016[18:24:36] <Dashkal> Lemme start
you: sealed trait Semigroup[A] { def |+|(a1: A, a2: A): A /* must
be associative */} sealed trait Monoid[A] { def isSemigroup:
Semigroup[A] def zero: A /* zero |+| a === a, a |+| zero === a */
}
L1017[18:25:20] <Dashkal> The
implementation for Int or Double is trivial Int: (+, 0) Double: (+,
0d)
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L1019[18:26:14] <Dashkal> Spire adds the
rest (groups, fields, rings) which give you the other
operations
L1020[18:27:11] <Wobbo> Lets finishing
reading Scala by Example before trying stuff like this, I don't
understand half of the scala you just wrote :P
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L1024[18:33:46] <Kilobyte> Wobbo: sorry,
didn't see the ping
L1025[18:33:54] <Kilobyte> threading in
scala is lika java
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L1027[18:34:02] <Kilobyte> i tend to
write myself a small wrapper though
L1028[18:34:19] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: I
solved it differenly with help from Dashkal ;)
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L1031[18:38:42] <Wobbo> Kilobyte: now the
calculator also has a GUI :P
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L1033[18:39:53] <Kilobyte> lol
L1034[18:39:58] <Kilobyte> who needs
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L1036[18:41:25] <Wobbo> I dunno, there is
already a CLI, but for the people who want that, it exists :P
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L1043[18:45:59] <Dashkal> Wobbo: Don't
sell youself short. Those were just traits with functions in
them
L1044[18:46:23] <Dashkal> Here, this is
semigroup, and I'll explain. sealed trait Semigroup[A] { def
|+|(a1: A, a2: A): A }
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L1046[18:46:49] <Dashkal> Semigroup[A] A
type constructor named Semigroup. Takes a type to produce a
specific semigroup. In doing so, the |+| method mus be
implemented.
L1047[18:47:27] <Ditchbuster> Caitlyn, ok
so def build it yourself. I was reading through that page on the
wiki. it had two options for ubuntu so i thought i would ask what
others have done
L1048[18:47:58] <Dashkal> def |+|(a1: A,
a2: A): A // A function named |+| that adds two As together to
produce another A. There's an extra rule here, that the
implementation must be Associative (g(f(a)) === (g compose
f)(a))
L1049[18:48:35] <Dashkal> Erm, had my
example wrong.
L1050[18:48:44] <Dashkal> (a + b) + c ===
a + (b + c)
L1051[18:48:47] <Dashkal> That's
associative
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L1053[18:50:14] <Caitlyn> last time I
installed from package... I ended up with like 0.2.. the current
release is like 1.4?
L1054[18:50:37] <Wobbo> Dashkal: But what
does === mean? or sealed?
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L1056[18:51:03] <Dashkal> === "is
equal to"
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L1059[18:51:20] <Dashkal> erm, forget
sealed. That shouldn't be on a typeclass. Sorry
L1060[18:51:37] <Dashkal> It means
"this trait may only be extended in this file" and is
used to define closed types. Shouldn't have been there.
L1061[18:51:45] <Wobbo> but then what is
the difference between == and ===?
L1062[18:51:51] <Dashkal> == is fucking
broken
L1063[18:52:03] <Dashkal> the type of ==
is (Any, Any) => Boolean
L1064[18:52:09] <Dashkal> The type of ===
is (A, A) => Boolean.
L1065[18:52:35] <Wobbo> Ah, so === will
error instead of always return false
L1066[18:52:50] <Dashkal> == will happily
compare JTextFields with Threads. This is never useful. === will
fail to compile
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L1068[18:53:17] <Dashkal> That's the
terrifying bit. Who said == will always return false?
L1069[18:53:23] <Dashkal> It gets abused
often
L1070[18:53:49] <Wobbo> == will return
false if its operands have different types. At least it
should
L1071[18:53:57] <Dashkal> It should,
yes.
L1072[18:54:01] <Dashkal> People abuse
this in practice
L1073[18:54:22] <Dashkal> "Oh my
thingy here really is just a String for equality purposes, I'll
just let that compare"
L1074[18:54:27] <Dashkal> That kind of
crap
L1075[18:55:11] <Dashkal> It's not in the
standard libs, sadly. Easy enough to define.
L1076[18:55:36] <Dashkal> trait Equal[A]
{ def equals(a1: A, a2: A): Boolean }
L1077[18:55:46] <Dashkal> Combined with a
helper method to tag the === onto anything where an Equal
exists
L1078[18:56:12] <Dashkal> There's another
lib I make heavy use of that provides the typeclass and instances
for everything under the sun
L1079[18:56:28] <Wobbo> The only reason
where two object of different types should be when one subclasses
the other and only adds methods
L1080[18:56:42] <Dashkal> Heh, a case
that, honestly? shouldn't exist.
L1081[18:56:48] <Dashkal> Composition,
not inheritance.
L1082[18:56:57] <Dashkal> See my
Monoid.
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L1085[18:57:18] <Dashkal> trait Monoid[A]
{ def isSemigroup[A]: Semigroup[A]; def mzero: A }
L1086[18:57:26] <Dashkal> You show the
relationship via composition
L1087[18:58:13] <Dashkal> The thing about
composition style is it utterly avoids multiple inheritance
problems
L1088[18:58:33] <Dashkal> Since you can't
possibly define isSemigroup twice.
L1089[18:58:53] <Dashkal> But it still
allows you to say "I am this, I'm also that".
L1090[18:59:16] <Dashkal> You have to
fill each 'hole' exactly once
L1091[19:00:15] <Ditchbuster> Caitlyn,
looks like the package for 14.04 is znc 1.2 so a little more
updated then when you did it :P
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Homebrew is 1.4, even the bottled version
L1095[19:03:01] <Wobbo> Dashkal: I really
have no clue what you are talking about now :P Don't try to explain
either, its just late for me.
L1096[19:05:45] <Wobbo> I'm going,
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Lua...
L1115[19:44:45] <Inari> :o
L1116[19:44:48] <Inari> what for
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L1235[21:22:12] <Pwootage> :O My mom has
a hand-crank pencil sharpener that sharpens them perfectly every
time
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L1237[21:22:13] <Pwootage> this is
amazing
L1238[21:22:40] <gamax92> s/-crank pencil
sharpener that sharpens them perfectly every time//
L1239[21:22:46] <gamax92> or not
L1240[21:24:12] <Caitlyn> Kilobyte,
kibided
L1241[21:24:18] <Caitlyn> %sed
enable
L1242[21:24:26] <Caitlyn> test
L1243[21:24:30] <Caitlyn>
s/test/worked/
L1244[21:24:33] <Caitlyn> nope
L1245[21:24:34] <Caitlyn> lol
L1246[21:24:42] <Caitlyn> %commands
L1247[21:24:57] <Caitlyn> o_O wat
L1248[21:25:44] <Pwootage> Why does kibi
die so much? D:
L1249[21:26:02] <Caitlyn> %sed
enable
L1250[21:26:09] <Caitlyn> o_O why you no
work
L1251[21:26:31] <Caitlyn> %sed
enable
L1252[21:26:42] <Caitlyn> %authd
L1253[21:26:44] <Caitlyn> %auth
L1254[21:26:46] <Caitlyn> %authed
L1255[21:26:47] <MichiBot> Caitlyn:
Authenticated to Nickserv account Michiyo
L1256[21:27:03] <Caitlyn> %sed list
L1257[21:27:10] *
Caitlyn facedesks
L1258[21:27:12] <Caitlyn> WHY YOU
BROKE?
L1259[21:27:16] <Caitlyn> %restart
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L1262[21:27:42] <Caitlyn> %sed list
L1263[21:28:06] <Caitlyn> %yt list
L1264[21:28:16] <Caitlyn> ... why are
these commands that WERE working broken?
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L1313[21:36:53] <Caitlyn> %yt
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L1314[21:36:53] <MichiBot> Caitlyn:
Enabled YTInfo for this channel
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L1318[21:38:28] <Caitlyn> Test
L1319[21:38:34] <Caitlyn>
s/Test/nop/
L1320[21:38:35] <MichiBot>
<Caitlyn> nop
L1322[21:39:05] <MichiBot> Pwootage:
Ocarina of Time Master Quest - All Dungeons and Dungeon
Skulltulas speedrun in 3:13:39 | length
3h 16m 11s |
rated
4.85/5.00 |
2488 views | by
zeldafreakglitcha
L1323[21:39:08] <Pwootage> seems to be
working
L1324[21:39:34] <Caitlyn> Yeah the %yt
and %url enables worked... sed didn't though I had to manually
enable it
L1325[21:40:33] <Pwootage> anyone know
why esper is splitty tonight?
L1326[21:40:52] <bananagram>
s/w/www/g
L1327[21:40:53] <MichiBot>
<Pwootage> anyone knowww wwwhy esper is splitty
tonight?
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L1331[21:43:03] <Cassandra> Pwootage:
Because that's how it always is? :p
L1332[21:43:34] <Ditchbuster> hmmm i am
having trouble using ZNC to connect to esper.net... anyone set this
up before?
L1333[21:43:50] <Pwootage> I'm on it
right now
L1334[21:43:54] <Pwootage> over SSL,
even
L1335[21:43:55] <Caitlyn> I've done so
quiet a few times.
L1336[21:44:04] <Ditchbuster> ok.. so i
add a network
L1337[21:44:08] <Ditchbuster> then add a
server
L1338[21:44:18] <Pwootage> speaking of
which I need to restart znc for cert fixes...
L1339[21:44:24] <Ditchbuster> *status
keeps saying i am timing out
L1340[21:44:33] <Ditchbuster> and
otherwise i get no feedback
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L1343[21:45:42] <Caitlyn> irc.esper.net
+6697 ?
L1344[21:45:52] <Ditchbuster> hmm maybe
that was problem
L1345[21:45:53] <Pwootage> evidently
that's the wrong cert path? Hm
L1346[21:45:56] <Ditchbuster> using
6667
L1347[21:46:05] <Caitlyn> +6697 is SSL =
better :p
L1348[21:46:24] <Ditchbuster> hmm
ok
L1349[21:46:25] <Caitlyn> but yeah..
irc.esper.net 6667 should work too
L1350[21:46:32] <Pwootage> yeah, no
reason to not use SSL
L1351[21:46:37] <Caitlyn> as long as
you're not putting the : in there
L1352[21:46:43] <Pwootage> my bouncer is
SSL, esper over SSL, freenode over SSL
L1353[21:46:56] <Caitlyn> ssl
errywhere
L1354[21:48:06] <Ditchbuster> yea
addserver irc.esper.net 6667
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L1357[21:48:20] <Ditchbuster> and now
trying addserver irc.esper.net +6697
L1358[21:49:21] <Ditchbuster> hmm
ok
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L1360[21:49:44] <Ditchbuster> ive tried
both using webadmin and meg *status
L1361[21:49:53] <Caitlyn> Only thing I
can think of is you need to set a bindhost if you have multiple IPs
or something..
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L1363[21:50:14] <Ditchbuster> hmm it
shouldnt...
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L1365[21:50:28] <Ditchbuster> should i
see something happen if it connects?
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L1367[21:50:51] <Ditchbuster> do i need
to add a channel? or where would i see the login info
L1368[21:50:55] <Caitlyn> You'll get the
Espernet MOTD and such
L1369[21:51:17] <Ditchbuster> by
*status?
L1370[21:51:27] <Caitlyn> Well no, it'll
be in the main network window
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L1372[21:51:57] <Ditchbuster> just
welcome to ZNC
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L1374[21:52:19] <Ditchbuster> hmm i guess
ill have to tweek it... does it need any certain ports open?
L1375[21:52:36] <Ditchbuster> i have obs
the one i am connecting to ZNC with
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L1378[21:55:53] <Pwootage> Finally,
correct cert >.>
L1379[21:56:23] <Caitlyn> The only reason
you'd need to open any other ports is if you're blocking outbound
connections
L1380[21:57:02] <Ditchbuster> which i am
not... not that i know of :P
L1381[21:59:20] <Pwootage> and like
magic, xchat now accepts my bouncer certs. Whee!
L1382[22:00:38] <Caitlyn> %sed list
L1383[22:00:41] <Caitlyn>
sijhef'osihfsheef
L1384[22:10:51] <NixUmbreon|Phone> woo,
end of shift
L1385[22:14:39] <Ditchbuster> if i want
to open a connection manual from command line in linux to esper
what command woudl i use?
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L1389[22:17:38] <Ditchbuster> Caitlyn,
could the znc process not have permission to open a connection or
something?
L1390[22:18:08] <Caitlyn> I son't really
see how..
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L1392[22:18:18] <Caitlyn>
s/son/don/
L1393[22:18:18] <MichiBot>
<Caitlyn> I don't really see how..
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L1395[22:18:59] <Ditchbuster> i didnt
think so.. i am really stumped.. i think maybe i should just let it
rest tonight and try tomorrow
L1396[22:19:50] <Ditchbuster> go back to
programming my robots in lua instead :P
L1397[22:27:24] <dangranos> just woke
up
L1398[22:27:26] <dangranos> hello
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L1401[22:32:50] <dangranos> rpi is
ded
L1402[22:33:07] <dangranos> because fs is
ded
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L1407[22:49:57] <Caitlyn> %update
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L1410[22:50:32] <Caitlyn> %sed
disable
L1411[22:50:41] <Caitlyn> Really?
L1412[22:50:44] <Caitlyn> REALLY?
L1413[22:51:38] <Ditchbuster> ?
L1414[22:52:06] <dangranos> bot
died?
L1415[22:52:42] <Caitlyn> No it's alive..
just the sed enable/disable is broken
L1416[22:52:54] <Caitlyn> ugh I need to
reboot back to windows..
L1417[22:52:57] <Caitlyn> but q_q
L1418[22:53:07] <Ditchbuster> sorry to
bug you again Caitlyn but do you know how to edit ZNC config? i
think my problem might stem from IPv6.. and i cant seem to find
anything on how to change that setting. i see something about not
editing dirrectly
L1419[22:53:54] <Caitlyn> Easiest way
would be to set a IPv4 bind
L1420[22:54:06] <Caitlyn> but if you
connect to a IPv4 server IPv6 shouldn't matter
L1421[22:54:24] <Ditchbuster> hmm
ok
L1422[22:54:33] <Ditchbuster> i did try
setting a IPv4 bind
L1423[22:54:53] <Ditchbuster> when i
telnet to esper it pulls an ipv6 addr and doesnt respond
L1424[22:54:59] <Caitlyn> Ditchbuster, if
you'd like I could just setup an account on my bouncer :P
L1425[22:55:07] <Ditchbuster> open conn
to the ipv4 addr i get responce
L1426[22:55:32] <Ditchbuster> Caitlyn,
that would defeat the purpose of me setting it up! ha but thank
you.
L1427[22:55:39] <Caitlyn> strange...
irc.esper.net should be ipv4 only, irc.ipv6.esper.net should be the
only one listening on IPv6
L1428[22:56:25] <Caitlyn> yeah.. a
nslookup on irc.esper.net returns only a records, no AAAAs
L1429[22:56:30] <Ditchbuster> also
ifconfig returns an alarming number of ip6 binds for eth0 so thata
is weird too
L1430[22:57:00] <Ditchbuster> maybe just
turn off the ipv6 for the os
L1431[22:57:04] <Ditchbuster> i dont
think i am using it
L1432[22:57:07] <NixUmbreon|Phone2> kodos
:3?
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L1435[22:57:32] <Ditchbuster> it is very
weird...
L1436[22:57:41] <Caitlyn> gonna reboot to
windows... afk
L1437[22:57:41] <Ditchbuster> thanks for
all your help Caitlyn
L1438[22:57:49] <Ditchbuster> bye!
L1439[22:57:53] <Caitlyn> feel so dirty..
lol
L1440[22:57:55] <Caitlyn> o/ Np
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L1446[23:05:43] <vifino> Good night
everyone.
L1447[23:05:49] <Ditchbuster>
goodnight
L1448[23:05:53] <vifino> It's 5 am. I
should sleep.
L1449[23:07:41] <Ditchbuster> Test
L1450[23:08:08] <Ditchbuster> well if i
put in the raw ip address it connects no problem.. so it must be
something that is wrong with the lookup of irc.esper.net
L1451[23:08:17] <vifino> Caitlyn: Uhm,
irc.esper.net does have AAAA records..
L1452[23:08:24] <vifino> So yeah, it has
ipv6.
L1453[23:08:29] <Ditchbuster> hmm
ok
L1454[23:09:00] <Ditchbuster> so then
that is looking up right i guess.. something with my interface must
not like working with ipv6
L1455[23:10:16] <vifino> Aaanyways,
sleep.
L1456[23:10:19] <vifino> Bai.
L1457[23:10:26] <dangranos> bye
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L1461[23:27:44] <Caitlyn> huh... it only
returned A's on Fedora...
L1462[23:27:52] <Caitlyn> it does return
AAAAs on windows..
L1463[23:27:56] <Caitlyn> which is
new..
L1464[23:28:16] <Caitlyn> cause when I
setup hecate's ZNC instance irc.esper.net returned only As on
windows.
L1465[23:30:37] <dangranos> znc on
windows?
L1466[23:31:05] <Caitlyn> No, I queried
irc.esper.net on windows cause of a DNS issue I was having on the
linux box
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L1468[23:54:35] <NixUmbreon|Phone> so
guys, here's something interesting
L1469[23:54:59] <NixUmbreon|Phone> #lua a
= 0/0 return a
L1470[23:55:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
-nan
L1471[23:55:03] <NixUmbreon|Phone> #lua
return type(a)
L1472[23:55:03] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
number
L1473[23:55:26] <NixUmbreon|Phone> ... I
wonder if variables hold between chats and between users.
L1474[23:55:34] <NixUmbreon|Phone> #lua
nixvar = 478293
L1475[23:55:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L1476[23:55:41] <gamax92> #lua return
a
L1477[23:55:41] <gamax92> #lua return
nixvar
L1478[23:55:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
-nan
L1479[23:55:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
478293
L1480[23:56:10] <NixUmbreon|Phone> Yes to
both, then.