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L1[00:00:47] <Techokami> http://tumblokami.tumblr.com/post/92675348188/dinosaurspen-pdp-7-computer-asr-33-terminal
L2[00:10:17] * gamax92 pets Techokami
L3[00:11:35] * Techokami goes http://i.imgur.com/xnmXehT.jpg
L4[00:19:20] <ds84182> .! HE'S GOING COMMANDO SEND ME PICS
L5[00:19:20] <^v> ds84182, HE'S GOING COMMANDO SEND ME PICS!!!111!!!!
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L22[01:51:27] <Kilobyte> I'm going to bed
L23[01:51:31] <Kilobyte> night guys
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L25[02:02:04] <v^> Kilobyte, GO TO SLEEP FASTER SO I CAN CREEP FASTER
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L33[02:26:27] <chrisk123999> Is it possible to use the computer port from BigReactors with Open Computers? (I also have Open Components if that helps)
L34[02:29:14] <Caitlyn> A few of us here PRed OC support into BigReactors, you don't even need an adapter
L35[02:29:39] <Caitlyn> as long as you have BR 0.3.3
L36[02:30:35] <Caitlyn> I'll admit, most of my code was tossed out and rewritten, but yeah :p
L37[02:31:01] <Caitlyn> Ahh Big Reactors 0.3.1A
L38[02:31:05] <Caitlyn> is when OC support was added.
L39[02:31:30] <chrisk123999> oh really?
L40[02:31:38] <chrisk123999> I couldn't find any documentation on it
L41[02:31:38] <Caitlyn> Computer Ports can now operate with both Open Computers and ComputerCraft. The same APIs are available to both mods.
L42[02:31:50] <Caitlyn> http://www.big-reactors.com/
L43[02:33:49] <chrisk123999> think I could get an example of how to "connect" to it? I'm familiar with LUA but I'm not sure how open computers does peripheral stuff
L44[02:34:43] <chrisk123999> I'm looking at component.list in the wiki, but it doesn't say what it returns
L45[02:35:08] <Caitlyn> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Kenny-Programs/blob/master/BR_Control/BR_Control.lua
L46[02:35:20] <Caitlyn> IDK how up to date that is.. but it should atleast show you some stuff
L47[02:35:40] <chrisk123999> thanks :D
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L50[02:41:16] <Basdxz> Hi
L51[02:41:26] <v^> hi
L52[02:41:55] <Basdxz> Finally got the irc client on the computer to work XD
L53[02:42:00] <v^> :>
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L55[02:43:27] <chrisk123999> there a way to copy a file from the internet (a lua file) to the open computer?
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L57[02:44:22] <Caitlyn> if you have a internet card, run wget http://somesite.com/somefile.ext
L58[02:44:28] <Caitlyn> or pastebin get id filename
L59[02:44:29] <chrisk123999> ok thanks
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L64[03:14:11] <chrisk123999> does open computers have any sort of sleep function so I can make it sleep a few ticks in a while loop?
L65[03:15:18] <Caitlyn> os.sleep(seconds)
L66[03:15:50] <Caitlyn> os.sleep(0.5) sleeps for half a second
L67[03:15:59] <chrisk123999> I just found that on the wiki
L68[03:16:02] <chrisk123999> it's burried in a weird spot
L69[03:16:05] <chrisk123999> thanks again xD
L70[03:16:19] <Caitlyn> Eh it makes sense where it is, as it's not a standard api :p
L71[03:16:53] <chrisk123999> true I guess
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L73[03:27:55] <v^> D:
L74[03:28:13] <v^> "weird spot"
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L242[06:49:12] <istasi> Morning \o
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L247[07:05:31] <Eevv> hi
L248[07:05:36] <Eevv> how to make colored text?
L249[07:06:58] <istasi> gpu.setForeground
L250[07:07:06] <istasi> component.gpu.setForeground
L251[07:07:23] <istasi> read up on that function ^^
L252[07:13:11] <Eevv> ok thanks
L253[07:13:17] <Eevv> your always helpful
L254[07:15:30] <Eevv> ok so i am going to make that 3d painter i was talking about
L255[07:16:05] <Eevv> But as of tier 2 and up screens are touchscreen
L256[07:16:25] <Eevv> so should i use term.getCursor()?
L257[07:17:19] <Eevv> and have a touch screen option so it remains in paint mode until pressed again?
L258[07:17:25] <Eevv> this is hard
L259[07:17:43] <Eevv> ill have to make a if statement for every block
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L264[07:57:51] <SKS-Phone> Want to hear something that will blow your mind?
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L269[08:18:42] <SKS-Phone> Slow day.
L270[08:29:38] <istasi> yeah
L271[08:30:27] <SKS-Phone> istasi, guess what.
L272[08:30:41] <istasi> you won a trip to greenland!
L273[08:30:51] <SKS-Phone> Nope.
L274[08:31:36] <SKS-Phone> I just ate pressurized nacho cheese from a can.
L275[08:31:56] <istasi> sorry, but ew
L276[08:32:27] <istasi> though i was kinda close with my guess
L277[08:32:54] <SKS-Phone> I also managed to draw an anime character, which is something I've never been able to do.
L278[08:32:58] <SKS-Phone> Indeed.
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L282[08:34:10] <istasi> nice :)
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L284[08:34:29] <istasi> how is it, it goes .. screenshot or it didn't happen!
L285[08:34:35] * istasi just wanna see :P
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L287[08:36:42] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll put it up on imgur.
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L291[08:45:18] <ShadowKatStudios> istasi: http://i.imgur.com/OFcrHAmh.jpg
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L293[08:51:49] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: don't do it part-by-part
L294[08:51:55] <asie> you will learn horrible habits
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L297[08:53:17] <ShadowKatStudios> And you could just, y'know, tell I did it in parts. I actually did the upper half on the bus, and the rest at lunch. But yeah, I did it in parts, I s'pose.
L298[08:54:55] <istasi> its looking nice i think ^^
L299[08:55:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Do you know who it is of?
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L301[08:55:31] <istasi> me drawing anything would most likely look like a horrible stick man
L302[08:55:53] <istasi> nope :|
L303[08:57:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh, it must really be decently obscure. No-one at school knew either.
L304[08:57:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Yuki Nagato (or Nagato Yuki, depending on the language)
L305[08:57:49] <ShadowKatStudios> From Haruhi Suzumiya
L306[09:01:54] <istasi> that could be why though
L307[09:01:57] <istasi> dont think i've ever seen that
L308[09:02:42] <istasi> i tend to stick to action ones, and skip anything less than 30 episodes
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L310[09:04:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, if you count the movie, Haruhi Suzumiya has the equivelant of 33 episodes
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L312[09:08:08] <vifino> o/
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L314[09:14:55] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: Yes, I could tell
L315[09:15:23] <asie> because if you want to learn good habits, it is very important that you go from very generic shapes or strokes to more and more detailed ones as you go
L316[09:15:27] <asie> that helps with proportions a lot
L317[09:15:33] <asie> also later on positioning characters in 3D
L318[09:16:51] <asie> also, Haruhi is not at all obscure
L319[09:16:55] <asie> the problem is it was popular in 2006 and 2009
L320[09:17:15] <asie> in fact, Haruhi was the 3rd biggest show in terms of posts on the Japanese 2channel IIRC
L321[09:17:17] <asie> (the 1st was Madoka)
L322[09:17:27] <asie> about the US, it's also reasonably non-obscure
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L327[09:31:58] <vifino|oc> o/
L328[09:34:39] <istasi> \o
L329[09:34:53] <vifino|oc> sup
L330[09:35:11] <vifino|oc> Servers OP
L331[09:37:45] <vifino> OpenIRC is bad
L332[09:37:47] <vifino> q_q
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L334[09:43:09] <istasi> how so?
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L336[09:45:51] <istasi> since i've started fooling around with lua, soo many errors due to me not proper using ; at end of lines -.-'
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L340[09:59:41] <istasi> is /folder//who an error or is it equal to /folder/./who ? mmh, suppose i could just test
L341[10:00:33] <istasi> same as /folder/./who it seems
L342[10:08:20] <Oddstr13> huh, no unpack?
L343[10:09:02] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/aoWWb/9ceda8b899.png
L344[10:09:49] <Sangar> o/
L345[10:10:13] <Sangar> Oddstr13, http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#8.2 "Function unpack was moved into the table library and therefore must be called as table.unpack."
L346[10:10:28] <Oddstr13> heh
L347[10:10:30] <Oddstr13> thanks
L348[10:11:01] <vifino> Sangar: If I finally set up my dev env again, i might contribute some things :>
L349[10:11:03] <vifino> Also
L350[10:11:15] <istasi> \o
L351[10:11:22] <vifino> I might add custom computers, that run ruby >:D
L352[10:11:25] <vifino> o/ istasi
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L354[10:12:14] <Sangar> vifino, nice :>
L355[10:12:26] <asie> i want to add custom computers that run FORTH
L356[10:12:32] <vifino> Sangar: What? Contributing, or Ruby?
L357[10:12:34] <istasi> Sangar, i seem to vaguely recall a list that said gpu.set was 16/tick, and gpu.fill was 8/tick are there no such list anymore?
L358[10:12:44] <Sangar> vifino, isn't that the same? :P
L359[10:12:48] <vifino> :>
L360[10:13:05] <Sangar> .w item:gpu
L361[10:13:05] <^v> Sangar, Not found. did you want "items list"?
L362[10:13:07] <Sangar> awww
L363[10:13:15] <Sangar> istasi, should be on the gpu page in the wiki
L364[10:13:22] <istasi> .w gpu
L365[10:13:22] <^v> istasi, http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
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L367[10:14:18] <Sangar> (and in the gpu's tooltip)
L368[10:16:51] <vifino> Sangar: I dont want to do stuff with java, its tooooo ewwwwwwwww
L369[10:17:23] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/aoXin/871f1085b0.png hm... :P almost?
L370[10:17:25] <Sangar> while that very much depends on what you do with it, i also prefer scala (if you couldn't tell :P)
L371[10:17:41] <vifino> k
L372[10:22:10] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/aoXuL/e584401757.png
L373[10:22:17] <Oddstr13> ^.^
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L377[10:33:25] <vifino> Sangar: I cant embed ruby in java :<
L378[10:33:40] <vifino> im too dumb
L379[10:34:07] <Sangar> :P
L380[10:34:15] <Sangar> get kilo to help you
L381[10:34:17] <Sangar> brb
L382[10:35:55] <vifino> Kilobyte: Lets make an ruby system in co thingy
L383[10:36:00] <vifino> *oc
L384[10:40:17] <Kilobyte> vifino: try JRuby, but that's hard to sandbox
L385[10:40:35] <vifino> Kilobyte: Im too worse in java for dis
L386[10:45:28] <Kilobyte> I wonder if there's a JavaScript to lua compiler
L387[10:58:35] <vifino> Kilobyte: The oposite has been done
L388[10:59:01] <Kilobyte> yeah, thats easier though
L389[10:59:04] <vifino> I kinda embedded that jslua thingie in my webserver :>
L390[10:59:19] <Kilobyte> you know opal
L391[10:59:23] <vifino> it serves it, and the lua on the server can call functions on client
L392[11:13:15] <Sangar> back
L393[11:32:54] <istasi> wb
L394[11:33:24] <istasi> seen this one? http://imgur.com/a/tXCJd -.-'
L395[11:34:38] <ShadowKatStudios> I have no less than 41 tabs. 1.6GB RAM usage, I'm so happy this thing has 8GB
L396[11:37:01] <ShadowKatStudios> 4 tabs: 1.2GB RAM usage. Flash Included.
L397[11:42:50] <Sangar> istasi, wtf
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L399[11:45:32] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios, is there a way to quickly get the number of open tabs? cba to count :P
L400[11:45:39] <Sangar> without addons
L401[11:46:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Uh, right-click on a tab, select close other tabs, add 1 to number of tabs being closed and cancel.
L402[11:47:06] <Sangar> meh, still would have to do that for each tab group :P
L403[11:47:28] <istasi> :P
L404[11:47:39] <istasi> my chrome uses ~1gb ram, 8 tabs
L405[11:47:43] <istasi> \o/
L406[11:48:10] * istasi wonders if he should get one of them irc clients
L407[11:48:26] <ShadowKatStudios> I think most modern browsers bottom out at 1GB RAM usage on Windows
L408[11:48:32] <robhol> istasi: MURICA
L409[11:48:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I should get Firefox 3.6.
L410[11:49:27] <Oddstr13> ShadowKatStudios: my Fx has like 1k tabs open
L411[11:49:29] <Oddstr13> :P
L412[11:49:42] <istasi> btw sangar, the wiki page for gpu doesn't have the timings
L413[11:49:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Is it horrifically slow?
L414[11:49:58] <Sangar> istasi, yes it does?
L415[11:50:11] <Oddstr13> somewhat slow, but most of the tabs arn't loaded
L416[11:50:16] <istasi> where? Oo
L417[11:50:32] <istasi> ah
L418[11:50:32] <istasi> http://ocdoc.cil.li/item:graphics_card
L419[11:50:35] <istasi> does, gpu doesn't
L420[11:50:45] <Sangar> yes
L421[11:50:52] <Sangar> waitwhat
L422[11:50:54] <Sangar> gpu is a redirect
L423[11:50:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, unloaded tabs.
L424[11:51:03] <ShadowKatStudios> I have all my tabs loaded.
L425[11:51:29] <istasi> .w gpu
L426[11:51:30] <^v> istasi, http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L427[11:51:33] <istasi> that page doesn't have it
L428[11:51:43] <istasi> though it have a link to the graphics_card page
L429[11:51:54] <Sangar> ah, yes. that's just the api doc for the gpu, after all.
L430[11:52:43] <istasi> aren't there a delay on bind too btw?
L431[11:53:34] <Oddstr13> Sangar: there's no way to tell from the docs what's the actual component, and what's added by OpenOS btw
L432[11:53:55] <Sangar> istasi, bind is a sync call, so 1 tick iirc
L433[11:54:27] <Sangar> Oddstr13, how do you mean?
L434[11:54:35] <istasi> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:filesystem <- wtb
L435[11:54:50] <ShadowKatStudios> http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Up_Shut_1324.jpg
L436[11:54:51] <Oddstr13> some of the functions in the components arn't available at boot level
L437[11:55:14] <istasi> uh?, like which?
L438[11:55:17] <Sangar> ^
L439[11:55:35] <Sangar> Oddstr13, if anything stuff in the *apis* section isn't available.
L440[11:55:36] <Oddstr13> well, component.getPrimary is added by OpenOS
L441[11:56:00] <Oddstr13> there where more, but i can't recall what right now
L442[11:56:09] <Sangar> well yeah, that's apis, not components
L443[11:56:18] <Oddstr13> hm..
L444[11:56:19] <Sangar> might be worth marking it some way
L445[11:56:33] <ShadowKatStudios> So asie, I should start with the basic shapes and then do increasingly detailed shapes?
L446[11:56:34] <istasi> any component.invoke function should most certainly be there regardless of os
L447[11:56:40] <istasi> atleast i havn't encountered any yet
L448[11:57:03] <Oddstr13> I think a table would've been better for the docs than a ul
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L450[12:00:38] <Oddstr13> http://www.computercraft.info/wiki/Fs_%28API%29 vs. http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:filesystem
L451[12:02:42] <Sangar> Oddstr13, yes. it's mostly because i felt tables on the github wiki were a pain and the pages are straight ports. if you want to contribute, feel free to convert them to tables! :)
L452[12:03:18] <Oddstr13> welp xD
L453[12:03:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw, my issue with persistance not working persista
L454[12:04:19] <Oddstr13> *sigh* desktop computer froze
L455[12:04:31] <Oddstr13> been froze for like 20min or something
L456[12:04:41] <Oddstr13> i guess i'll just have to hit the reset button
L457[12:04:43] <Sangar> Kilobyte, tried putting in more globals one-by-one to see which one's causing it?
L458[12:05:10] <Kilobyte> Sangar: hmm i could try that after food
L459[12:05:21] <Kilobyte> because gotta go to lunch now
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L461[12:07:03] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: yes
L462[12:07:11] <asie> or just a rough sketch
L463[12:07:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Noted.
L464[12:07:18] <asie> i know a great IRC channel to learn drawing from
L465[12:07:24] <asie> sadly (for some), they're all bronies
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L468[12:12:05] * ShadowKatStudios reads the Visual Novel description of School Days.
L469[12:12:11] * ShadowKatStudios must play/read this
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L472[12:23:23] <Sangar> damn. realized i forgot pulling a few functions into the api while writing arch doc -.- gah
L473[12:24:16] <Kilobyte> Sangar: time for bug hunting
L474[12:24:47] <Sangar> gl
L475[12:24:59] <Kilobyte> this gonna be painful
L476[12:25:03] <Kilobyte> because slow hardware
L477[12:25:15] <Kilobyte> and there are like 4 libs which can cause it
L478[12:25:32] <Kilobyte> eta of being done testing them all: 4 h
L479[12:25:35] <Kilobyte> *2
L480[12:25:58] <Pontiac> 4h probably more accurate. ;)
L481[12:26:20] <Kilobyte> my hardware isn't THAT bad
L482[12:26:46] <Kilobyte> an later i gotta play with TE beta
L483[12:26:54] <Pontiac> TE?
L484[12:26:58] <Kilobyte> thermalexpansion
L485[12:27:04] <Pontiac> ah
L486[12:27:09] <Sangar> :>
L487[12:27:34] <ShadowKatStudios> If your hardware isn't THAT bad, how bad is it?
L488[12:27:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Double endre optional.
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L490[12:27:45] <Kilobyte> 2x1.6 GHz
L491[12:27:49] <Kilobyte> for cpu
L492[12:27:55] <Kilobyte> AMD E-350
L493[12:28:16] <Kilobyte> $ lspci | grep Radeon
L494[12:28:16] <Kilobyte> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]
L495[12:28:24] <Pontiac> I feel so sorry for you that I'm ALMOST willing to lend you a remote login to one of my linux machines. ALMOST.
L496[12:28:39] <Kilobyte> nah, one week then i got a proper machine
L497[12:28:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Wow. I think my desktop bears that.
L498[12:28:59] <ShadowKatStudios> beats*
L499[12:29:13] <Pontiac> I don't run any AMD hardware in this house.
L500[12:29:23] <Kilobyte> amd is good :P at least their cpus
L501[12:29:33] <Kilobyte> not as good as intel, but much cheaper
L502[12:29:36] <Kilobyte> and its worth it
L503[12:29:43] <Pontiac> The kids had an AMD machine, but, it was so old, they couldn't watch YouTube without massive studdering.
L504[12:29:46] <ShadowKatStudios> 1.86Ghz processor, and it supports HDMI with a NVIDIA GeForce 8600, and it also has an integrated 7050
L505[12:30:20] <ShadowKatStudios> So I had a great idea for my story. Everyone DIES.
L506[12:30:21] <Kilobyte> the AMD i am gonna have in my new machine has about the same benchmark results as an intel with double price
L507[12:30:35] <ShadowKatStudios> My Intel was free \o/
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L509[12:33:33] <ShadowKatStudios> AMD stuff is better at threading, right?
L510[12:35:37] <Kilobyte> think so
L511[12:35:58] <Kilobyte> plus, try to get an intel 8-core for under 150 euro
L512[12:36:41] <Kilobyte> Sangar: those are the possible candidates
L513[12:36:42] <Kilobyte> https://gist.github.com/Kilobyte22/700f1f1c305d0d634c9d
L514[12:36:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Fortunately, I don't have to deal with the whole buying hardware thing at the moment. I get given scrap hardware. :D
L515[12:37:16] <Kilobyte> lol
L516[12:37:42] <Kilobyte> i gotta write down what i will use for my pc
L517[12:39:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I just wish the people I got scrap hardware from were into Sun servers. RISC would make Java work so much faster :(
L518[12:39:58] <Kilobyte> lol
L519[12:40:50] <ShadowKatStudios> RISC in general is better than CISC :(
L520[12:42:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm not really sure who to blame for CISC being so common. The obvious one is Microsoft, but there were also the CISC versions of Unix- hell, the PDP-11 was CISC.
L521[12:44:01] <Kilobyte> if in doubt, blame Microsoft
L522[12:44:25] <Kilobyte> without them we'd prob be much further in matters of computers
L523[12:44:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Indeed.
L524[12:45:42] <Kilobyte> but they have to take ancient technologies and call them "very latest high tech fresh from our research lab"
L525[12:45:49] <ShadowKatStudios> If only IBM didn't hate UNIX and went with Microsoft's XENIX for the IBM PC. Then everyone would use UNIX- well, most, anyway.
L526[12:46:23] <ShadowKatStudios> I think the whole 'ancient stuff advertised as new' is everywhere.
L527[12:47:44] <istasi> without windows, we'd probably run os X instead
L528[12:48:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Still, OS X is Unix.
L529[12:48:58] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: damnit, i want scrap hardware :<
L530[12:49:35] <Kilobyte> osx is unix based but not unix themed
L531[12:49:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Stary2001, no you don't. Scrap hardware is a minimum of 5 years old, large, and noisy. And very rarely valuable.
L532[12:50:14] <ShadowKatStudios> At least it has a Unix base. That's it's only technical superiority over Windows.
L533[12:50:23] <Kilobyte> yup
L534[12:50:27] <Stary2001> lol
L535[12:50:41] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: *points at 64mb ram laptop* yes i do
L536[12:50:42] <Stary2001> lol
L537[12:50:44] <Kilobyte> like, x.org is unix themed (network transparency etc)
L538[12:51:17] <Kilobyte> the thingy of OSX... i don't even
L539[12:51:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I felt like a god when I managed to run Linux on my 64MB RAM laptop.
L540[12:51:32] <Stary2001> hehe
L541[12:51:35] <ShadowKatStudios> It's /older than me/ !
L542[12:51:38] <Stary2001> ^
L543[12:51:48] <Kilobyte> lol
L544[12:51:48] <Stary2001> first linux install was on that laptop iirc
L545[12:51:55] <Stary2001> or possibly on my pc i forgot
L546[12:52:08] <Pontiac> There aren't many home based machines that are older than me.
L547[12:52:09] <Kilobyte> neither NT nor darwin would run on 64 MiB
L548[12:52:22] <Pontiac> There ARE some, but, we're talking Pet.
L549[12:52:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Altair.
L550[12:52:53] <Kilobyte> fun fact, the first computer was made in germany
L551[12:52:54] <ShadowKatStudios> My first Linux install was on a shitty netbook. Best thing I ever did.
L552[12:53:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Kilobyte: The Z1, yes?
L553[12:53:08] <Kilobyte> yup
L554[12:53:14] <Kilobyte> it was mechanical though
L555[12:53:18] <Kilobyte> and very buggy
L556[12:53:24] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: haha, yes
L557[12:53:36] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: i need to get my hands on some netbooks or something
L558[12:53:41] <Kilobyte> my first linux install is on the piece of toast i am currently using
L559[12:53:45] <Stary2001> ha
L560[12:53:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I would kill for enough relays to make a stack machine
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L562[12:53:58] <Sangar> all right. http://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial:modding_architecture let's see if this is at least half-way useful to someone :P
L563[12:54:06] <Kilobyte> ShadowKatStudios: mechanical == no relays :P
L564[12:54:13] <Kilobyte> but springs etc
L565[12:54:29] <Kilobyte> the Z2 was the first computer with relays
L566[12:54:33] <ShadowKatStudios> It was /mechanical/ !?
L567[12:54:37] <Kilobyte> yes
L568[12:54:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Hardcore.
L569[12:55:23] <Pontiac> I'll read through it.
L570[12:55:26] * Pontiac thinks
L571[12:55:40] <Pontiac> Doesn't Doukwiki have an Export Site to PDF?
L572[12:56:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Stary2001: The best place to get surplus computers is either behind office buildings or from schools. However, from schools, they're usually at least 10 years old.
L573[12:56:58] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: I might end up seeing what I can do IT-wise at school
L574[12:57:05] <Pontiac> https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:bookcreator
L575[12:57:09] <Pontiac> That one looks interesting.
L576[12:57:54] <Kilobyte> ShadowKatStudios: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z1_(computer)
L577[12:58:06] <Pontiac> I'm going to the states this weekend, and I'll need some reading material. Already have a lua PDF to read.
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L581[13:01:18] <Kilobyte> FML
L582[13:01:25] <Kilobyte> my phone just crashed during a call
L583[13:01:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Skill learned: Insult in Japanese
L584[13:02:31] <Stary2001> :D
L585[13:03:09] <Kilobyte> ew japanese
L586[13:03:11] * Kilobyte runs
L587[13:03:40] <ShadowKatStudios> damnitdamnitdamnitdamnitdamnitdamnitdamnitdamnitdamnit I wish I had real internet, I've been wanting to download Dennou coil for like... 2 days, not that I'm impatient or anything.
L588[13:03:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Kilobyte: Baka.
L589[13:03:59] <ShadowKatStudios> I really need to find more interesting ones.
L590[13:04:47] <ShadowKatStudios> That one will get worn out quickly.
L591[13:07:07] <Stary2001> very quickly
L592[13:08:03] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ok, its not the io lib
L593[13:08:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Stary2001: http://i.imgur.com/OFcrHAmh.jpg I got bored on the bus.
L594[13:08:28] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: Neat.
L595[13:09:43] <Sangar> Kilobyte, for no particular reason i'd bet on the java one :P
L596[13:09:54] <Kilobyte> Sangar: me too
L597[13:10:03] <Kilobyte> thats actually the next one i am testing
L598[13:12:34] <Kilobyte> Sangar: protip: when adding a lib, don't forget to pop the return value
L599[13:12:53] <Sangar> :P
L600[13:13:41] <asie> okay
L601[13:13:47] <asie> Computronics 0.6.0 is getting another useless feature
L602[13:13:48] <asie> a RedLogic Lamp API
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L604[13:14:56] <ShadowKatStudios> asie, you're gonna run out of version numbers that are less than 1. Then you'll run out of version numbers less than 3. Then 6, then 9, etc.
L605[13:15:32] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: what?
L606[13:15:50] <asie> 0.10.0
L607[13:16:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, you're up to 0.6 already- oh yeah, but isn't that the same as 0.1?
L608[13:16:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Alternatively, you could use hexadecimal version numbers. :P
L609[13:16:51] <Oddstr13> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRD7WylAfkw
L610[13:16:52] -Kibibyte- [Oddstr13] 【Chillstep】aKu - The Final Blow [Free Download] | by nyuualiaslucy | 2m34s | 1d16h ago | 17,554 views | Rated: 4.98/5.00
L611[13:17:20] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: it's not
L612[13:17:20] <asie> 10 > 1
L613[13:17:48] <asie> Sangar: making architectures is scary
L614[13:17:55] <Pontiac> Kat sorts by ascii character, not integer.
L615[13:17:59] <ShadowKatStudios> But... 0.10.0 = 0.100 = 0.1
L616[13:18:05] <asie> Sangar: but I might do something evil
L617[13:18:10] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios: ...wat
L618[13:18:10] <asie> and make the most powerful architecture ever
L619[13:18:16] <Stary2001> asie,wat
L620[13:18:16] <asie> the problem is, I will need someone to help compile natives for it
L621[13:18:19] <asie> Stary2001: picoc.
L622[13:18:23] <asie> a C interpreter with pointer emulation support.
L623[13:18:27] <Stary2001> hahahaha
L624[13:18:33] <asie> no, I'm serious
L625[13:18:35] <ShadowKatStudios> A number can only have one decimal place..?
L626[13:18:40] <Sangar> asie, yes, yes it it :P
L627[13:18:48] <Stary2001> thats.. scary
L628[13:18:50] <asie> but a C architecture would be neat
L629[13:18:51] <Pontiac> Not for build numbers.
L630[13:18:52] <Kilobyte> Sangar: its not the java lib either
L631[13:18:56] <Stary2001> ShadowKatStudios, version numbers arent decimals
L632[13:18:59] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: No it can't
L633[13:19:00] <Sangar> Kilobyte, oh, ok then
L634[13:19:02] <asie> I mean
L635[13:19:07] <asie> node.js is at 0.10.28 or something
L636[13:19:13] <asie> version numbers are numbers
L637[13:19:36] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios, http://semver.org/
L638[13:19:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Each is separate?
L639[13:23:01] <Kilobyte> yes
L640[13:23:31] * ShadowKatStudios wanders off to find a rubber
L641[13:23:48] <ShadowKatStudios> 23:23 \o/
L642[13:24:44] <asie> getLampType, getLampColor and isLampPowered get
L643[13:24:46] <asie> :)
L644[13:27:04] <Cruor> asie: why do i need this? o_o
L645[13:27:18] <ShadowKatStudios> ^
L646[13:27:29] <asie> Cruor: why not?
L647[13:27:32] <asie> i was bored and added it
L648[13:27:41] <Cruor> i approve
L649[13:28:01] <ShadowKatStudios> :( I was expecting 'It seemed like a good idea at the time'
L650[13:28:24] <Sangar> that's my phrase :P
L651[13:28:44] <Sangar> bbl
L652[13:29:06] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm off o/
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L654[13:29:47] <asie> i might add equivalent CC 1.6 support btw
L655[13:29:54] <asie> because why not
L656[13:31:18] <Pontiac> hmm.. PG rated channel here, right?
L657[13:33:12] <Kilobyte> Sangar: not OS lib either
L658[13:34:03] <vifino> Moop!
L659[13:40:09] <Kilobyte> .tell Sangar i tracked it down, its the package lib
L660[13:40:09] <^v> Kilobyte, Message queued.
L661[13:40:41] <istasi> whats the least a os.sleep can be?, a tick ?
L662[13:40:55] <Kilobyte> iirc yes
L663[13:41:06] <istasi> i mean besides 0, mmkay
L664[13:41:28] <Kilobyte> 0 == 1 tick iirc
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L666[13:43:40] <istasi> local t = 0 for i=1,16 do os.sleep(0) component.gpu.setBackground(t) component.fill(1,1,30,30, ' ' ) t=t + 0x111111 end component.gpu.setBackground (0) thats alot faster than os.sleep(0.0000000008) etc
L667[13:44:23] <istasi> suppose it could be 1 tick still, though 20 ticks a sec, should cause it to fade over a second
L668[13:44:37] <istasi> which is what os.sleep(0x zeroes8) seem to do
L669[13:46:38] <istasi> but oh well, whatever.. 1 tick it is ^^
L670[13:55:44] <istasi> gpu.getBound (), gpu.boundTo () or gpu.bound () ? :P
L671[13:57:01] <asie> <asie> Computronics 0.5.1 received 12 downloads in 36 hours
L672[13:59:38] <Cruor> asie: :D
L673[14:02:15] <gamax92> q_q
L674[14:02:21] <vifino> asie: is that... much for you?
L675[14:02:24] <gamax92> Waking up to dogs barking ...
L676[14:02:34] <asie> vifino: no, but i don't have total stats sadly
L677[14:02:37] <asie> it might have gotten more
L678[14:02:41] <asie> i'll see when i release 0.6.0 in a day or two
L679[14:02:42] <vifino> ohok
L680[14:10:30] <Sangar> back
L681[14:11:01] <Sangar> istasi, oh, right, thanks for the reminder, i'll add a way to query the currently bound gpu
L682[14:11:11] <Sangar> *screen
L683[14:12:11] <Vexatos> OC 1.4
L684[14:12:16] <Vexatos> What's that going to be
L685[14:12:24] <gamax92> HL3
L686[14:12:33] <Vexatos> RP3?
L687[14:12:40] <gamax92> wat
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L689[14:14:06] <Sangar> Vexatos, not necessarily anything big. it just indicates api changes.
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L691[14:18:13] <asie> releasing 0.5.2 now I guess
L692[14:23:15] <Kilobyte> Sangar: got mah message?
L693[14:23:34] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yeah, but idk why it'd cause that :/
L694[14:23:46] <Vexatos> asie: Lies
L695[14:23:48] <Kilobyte> Sangar: my suggestion: bug in eris :P
L696[14:23:58] <Vexatos> Need to fix things first
L697[14:24:02] <Sangar> Kilobyte, suuuure :P
L698[14:24:10] <Sangar> fix it
L699[14:24:12] <Sangar> ;)
L700[14:24:28] <Kilobyte> me + c++ == memleaks, segfaults and ugly code
L701[14:24:32] <asie> Vexatos: http://mc.shinonome.ch/doku.php?id=wiki:computronics
L702[14:24:35] <Kilobyte> do you want any of those in eris?
L703[14:25:42] <Kilobyte> Sangar: do i have to reimplement LuaStateFactory for my emulator?
L704[14:25:58] <Kilobyte> i mean, it seems to have dependencies on the core of oc
L705[14:26:14] <Kilobyte> like the computer api
L706[14:26:19] <Kilobyte> or the system api
L707[14:26:32] <Vexatos> "Cameras should now work a little bit better"
L708[14:26:34] <Vexatos> Lies
L709[14:26:35] <Vexatos> xD
L710[14:26:45] <asie> Vexatos: Read the whole damn thing
L711[14:26:49] <Vexatos> I saw
L712[14:27:13] <Sangar> Kilobyte, uh, the machine one could be removed, but the settings not really, so... probably.
L713[14:27:41] <Sangar> (also eris is c, not cpp :P)
L714[14:31:55] <Kilobyte> even worse
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L717[14:52:55] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i should write a in-browser lua interpreter for the lulz (using eris and a c -> js compiler)
L718[14:54:39] <Sangar> i think SpiritedDusty already did that when he was working on his oc emu (which was in js, using that exact method iirc)
L719[14:57:41] <asie> okay
L720[14:57:48] <asie> added support for BetterStorage crates in Computronics
L721[15:01:09] <Vexatos> I am currently implenting OC support into the mod I ported
L722[15:01:52] <Vexatos> How do I make a component method error?
L723[15:02:13] <Sangar> throw an exception
L724[15:02:28] <Vexatos> Oh, so checkInteger already does it for me
L725[15:02:29] <Vexatos> good then
L726[15:02:32] <Sangar> yep
L727[15:04:38] <Kilobyte> TIL how to read a file in haskell and output it to stdout
L728[15:04:41] <Kilobyte> its really simple
L729[15:04:54] <Vexatos> But I apparently still have to throw some exception manually if args.count<=0
L730[15:04:55] <Kilobyte> readFile "MyFile" >>= putStrLn
L731[15:09:10] <asie> Vexatos: <=?
L732[15:09:12] <asie> if anything =
L733[15:09:38] <Vexatos> Why? Can't we have -2 arguments?
L734[15:09:38] <Vexatos> D:
L735[15:09:40] <Vexatos> I want
L736[15:10:23] <Vexatos> Well, let's see whether my very first component works xD
L737[15:10:28] <Sangar> if you do checkBlah(0) and theres <1 args it'll also throw
L738[15:10:59] <Vexatos> Oh, even better o.O
L739[15:12:26] <asie> Sangar: it will?
L740[15:12:29] <asie> good to know
L741[15:13:01] <Cruor> Kilobyte: that was half sane
L742[15:13:02] <Sangar> yep, check requires the argument to be present and be of compatible type
L743[15:13:03] <Cruor> ill roll with it
L744[15:13:49] <Vexatos> Coloured floppies look SO AWESOME
L745[15:13:53] <Oddstr13> Cruor: plz
L746[15:14:57] <Cruor> pls
L747[15:16:01] <Vexatos> WHAT THE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
L748[15:16:08] <Vexatos> Sangar: Worked on first try xD
L749[15:16:15] <Vexatos> Best. API. Ever.
L750[15:16:18] <Sangar> Vexatos, gj!
L751[15:16:36] <Vexatos> wooooo
L752[15:18:51] <Vexatos> Now to implement all the methods
L753[15:18:57] <Vexatos> for fancy elevator control
L754[15:21:28] <Kilobyte> Sangar: http://lolcode.codeschool.com/ time to learn a new lang
L755[15:21:29] <Kilobyte> jk
L756[15:21:55] <Sangar> some people have too much time >_>
L757[15:22:11] * Sangar does the tutorial now
L758[15:22:22] <Kilobyte> only takes 5 mins
L759[15:23:25] <asie> Vexatos: can't wait to see your mods
L760[15:23:54] <Vexatos> Not my mod
L761[15:23:56] <Vexatos> I only ported it
L762[15:24:04] <Vexatos> Since it's my all-time favourite mod
L763[15:24:11] <Vexatos> Best mod ever and such
L764[15:24:12] <istasi> which one? ^^
L765[15:24:23] <Vexatos> And the author has a "Do whatever you want with my code" license
L766[15:24:38] <Vexatos> so I forked it and ported it to 1.7.10 and fixed most of the bugs
L767[15:24:42] <Vexatos> And now OC support \o/
L768[15:24:50] <Vexatos> istasi: Thut's mods
L769[15:24:58] <Vexatos> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/1444197-1-7-2-forge-thuts-mods-elevators-concrete-and?page=4
L770[15:25:48] <istasi> nice :)
L771[15:25:53] * istasi never heard of it before >-<
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L773[15:26:21] <Vexatos> Of course
L774[15:26:27] <Vexatos> It's been around since 1.5, I think
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L776[15:26:46] <Vexatos> But Thutmose never had time to actually work on it, and eventually stopped
L777[15:27:03] <istasi> kay, suppose many mods goes that way :|
L778[15:27:56] <Vexatos> But watch this
L779[15:27:57] <Vexatos> http://gfycat.com/ClutteredMerryAdeliepenguin
L780[15:28:24] <istasi> that is nifty :O
L781[15:28:45] <Vexatos> And soon OC-controllable
L782[15:29:34] <Kilobyte> Sangar: did you consider if you will merge my PR?
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L784[15:32:40] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yeah. still leaning towards fork, tho i'd be willing to provide a job on the jenkins for it. i'll formulate some actual reasons other than 'gut feeling' after dinner :P
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L787[15:38:37] <v^> ^v is going to be partly C :>
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L792[15:47:22] <asie> Kilobyte: what PR?
L793[15:48:04] <Kilobyte> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/430
L794[15:48:12] <istasi> sangar, per boot, can one say that component.list('screen') always return same order?
L795[15:49:27] <Sangar> istasi, unless the attached components don't change *probably*. what that is is basically an iterator over a java map, and iteration order over that isn't guaranteed afaik.
L796[15:50:07] <istasi> Mmh, kay
L797[15:51:04] <Sangar> -don't
L798[15:51:49] <Sangar> also, it's not a linkedhashmap (which keeps order for iteration) because it'd still possible fail across save/load
L799[15:52:04] <istasi> oh, that makes slightly more reliable, since i dont have to detach something to keep the order :P
L800[15:52:32] <istasi> mmh, oh well, will work around ^^
L801[15:53:46] <Vexatos> What would be a good function name for checking whether the elevator can be called
L802[15:54:08] <Sangar> Vexatos, isAvailable()?
L803[15:54:11] <Vexatos> elevator.call(floor) calls the thing to a specified floor
L804[15:54:18] <Sangar> or isReady()
L805[15:54:21] <Vexatos> ^ better
L806[15:54:24] <Vexatos> Thanks
L807[15:54:49] <istasi> >:], just block until its at the floor
L808[15:56:52] <Vexatos> Hmmm
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L811[15:57:22] <Kilobyte> Sangar: what about your reasons :P
L812[15:57:30] <istasi> dont btw :O, wouldn't be able to make a process bar
L813[15:57:54] <Vexatos> Of course not >__>
L814[15:58:14] <istasi> <3
L815[15:58:26] <gamax92> >___________________________________>
L816[15:58:56] <Kilobyte> istasi: that would freeze the computer thread
L817[16:01:21] <Vexatos> Do not yield in a callback method
L818[16:01:25] <Vexatos> Nonono BAD
L819[16:02:28] <Kilobyte> what will happen?
L820[16:02:30] <Vexatos> Okay, need two more function names
L821[16:02:52] <Vexatos> One for the floor the computer is at (i.e. the control panel it's connected to)
L822[16:03:00] <Vexatos> and one for the floor the lift is currently at
L823[16:03:42] <Vexatos> I am so bad at function names xD
L824[16:04:01] <Sangar> Kilobyte, haven't had dinner yet :P
L825[16:04:10] <istasi> controlPosition () and at () ?
L826[16:04:25] <Sangar> or more verbose: getLocalFloor, getElevatorFloor?
L827[16:04:47] <Vexatos> Sangar's ones are good
L828[16:04:49] <Vexatos> I think
L829[16:05:10] <Vexatos> Should there be a function getting the destination floor in case the elevator is currently moving?
L830[16:05:14] <Sangar> ffs i really need mail domain filter for dokuwiki -.- almost *all* of the botters are coming from yahoo.com
L831[16:05:23] <Vexatos> (And return nil if it isn't)
L832[16:05:31] <istasi> isMoving () ?
L833[16:05:38] <Sangar> Vexatos, make it return two values? current, target?
L834[16:05:39] <gamax92> Sangar: you want to filter out all of yahoo.com?
L835[16:05:45] <Vexatos> Sangar: Good idea
L836[16:05:48] <Sangar> gamax92, yes because screw yahoo :>
L837[16:05:57] <gamax92> >_> my email is yahoo
L838[16:05:59] <Vexatos> But, well
L839[16:06:02] <Sangar> :P
L840[16:06:08] <Sangar> you already have an account
L841[16:06:15] <Vexatos> You won't ever need the lift's current floor
L842[16:06:16] <gamax92> Sangar: fine I take back my component:internet page i put
L843[16:06:18] <Vexatos> While it's moving
L844[16:06:25] <Sangar> :(
L845[16:06:27] <Vexatos> Because it will move further
L846[16:06:38] <Vexatos> And it's pretty fast
L847[16:06:39] <Sangar> Vexatos, for progress indication?
L848[16:06:44] <Vexatos> Hmmm... right
L849[16:06:46] <Vexatos> Good idea
L850[16:06:48] <Vexatos> WOW
L851[16:06:55] * Vexatos imagines floor indicator
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L853[16:07:18] <Sangar> meh, i'll just continue deleting spam accounts for now >_>
L854[16:07:22] <Sangar> can't find a plugin
L855[16:07:28] <Vexatos> I told you.
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L857[16:08:30] <Kilobyte> Sangar: on forums?
L858[16:08:41] <Sangar> wiki
L859[16:08:45] <Kilobyte> ah
L860[16:08:55] <Kilobyte> want help?
L861[16:09:21] <Sangar> of what kind?
L862[16:09:35] <Kilobyte> cleanup etc
L863[16:09:41] <Kilobyte> or is that no hard work
L864[16:09:57] <Sangar> nah, it's just deleting a few lines from a file, and there aren't that many anyway
L865[16:10:19] <Sangar> was a huge bulk the first day, but now its ~3-5 a day :P
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L867[16:17:40] <Sangar> gtg, back in a few hours
L868[16:18:02] <Vexatos> Hmmm... That's a problem
L869[16:18:09] <Vexatos> Progress indicators won't really be possible
L870[16:18:42] <Vexatos> Since the elevator, while moving, only tracks the floor it started from and the floor it's moving towards
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L873[16:19:29] <istasi> you could probably keep a timing table, and based on the time since start, guestimate where it is
L874[16:19:45] <Vexatos> Not possible
L875[16:19:59] <Vexatos> since the elevator has acceleration
L876[16:20:06] <Vexatos> so it's going to slow down before arriving
L877[16:20:12] <Vexatos> and speed up when starting etc
L878[16:20:31] <Vexatos> I could add another variable, I guess
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L881[16:43:40] <Techokami> afternoon
L882[16:43:45] <istasi> hi
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L885[16:53:35] <Vexatos> Meh
L886[16:53:57] <Vexatos> It's really hard to make the elevator return its currentl floor while it's moving
L887[16:54:03] <Vexatos> It's basically impossible
L888[16:54:28] <istasi> can you return its current x,y ?
L889[16:54:35] <istasi> or
L890[16:54:36] <istasi> just y
L891[16:55:00] <istasi> or i suppose you have thought of that :/
L892[16:56:10] <Vexatos> Yea I can
L893[16:56:13] <Vexatos> But I don't want to
L894[16:56:31] <Vexatos> The elevator should only know its XYZ coordinates internally
L895[16:57:14] <istasi> and you got the y for the floor controls ?, isn't floor number just where currentY > whateverfloorY and currentY < whatevrNextFloorY
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L897[16:58:29] <Vexatos> whateverfloorY is what I want to get though
L898[16:58:56] <istasi> how does it know to stop there then? Oo
L899[16:59:11] <Vexatos> The elevator knows where it started from
L900[16:59:14] <Vexatos> and where to stop
L901[16:59:18] <Vexatos> But nothing inbetween
L902[16:59:31] <istasi> yah, but when you select floor 2, how does it know it should stop at Y ?
L903[16:59:55] <Vexatos> Because it checks the Y of the controller at that floor
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L906[17:02:58] <istasi> how do you find floorTargetY when you select floor 2?, surely there must be some index, or translate function somewhere to tell you that floor 2 is at Y, internally ... but meh, oh well, pizza's here, have fun
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L909[17:12:43] <Vexatos> Iterating through a 3 dimensional array where any entry could be null is bad+
L910[17:12:52] <Vexatos> Especially if you have no idea what it actually contains
L911[17:12:53] <Vexatos> >____>
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L916[17:25:36] <JoshTheEnder> i'm back
L917[17:26:12] <istasi> wb
L918[17:26:36] <JoshTheEnder> though now to go play skyrim
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L921[17:41:02] <Vexatos> istasi: I just tried it for 2 hours now, almost >__>
L922[17:41:10] <Vexatos> Can't get it to work properly
L923[17:41:34] <istasi> :(
L924[17:47:48] <v^> is there a RFCNet which completely fucks with clients that dont completely RFC
L925[17:48:40] <gamax92> >_> why
L926[17:49:36] <v^> because i dont like clients that cant RFC
L927[17:49:51] <v^> emagine a network without quassel or mibbit?
L928[17:49:52] <v^> amazing.
L929[17:50:06] <v^> or crappy coded bots
L930[17:50:15] <v^> (mine would totally break)
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L934[18:07:24] <Vexatos> istasi: Almost got it working xD
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L937[18:22:57] <Vexatos> istasi: It works!
L938[18:23:17] <istasi> nice! \o/
L939[18:24:29] <Vexatos> Unfortunately requried a lot of code
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L941[18:33:38] <Vexatos> Any more methods you would want?
L942[18:34:41] <Altenius> What'd you make Vexatos?
L943[18:35:27] <Vexatos> Adding OC support for the elevator of the mod I ported to 1.7.10
L944[18:36:44] <istasi> vexatos, dunno maybe that it throws an event once its at target, so i wont have to poll it ?
L945[18:37:12] <istasi> but that is a minor thing and meh
L946[18:37:20] <Vexatos> "elevator_arrived"
L947[18:37:21] <Vexatos> xD
L948[18:37:32] <istasi> elevator_stopped
L949[18:37:38] <istasi> :P
L950[18:37:40] <Vexatos> Ok
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L952[19:00:41] <Oddstr13> http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/1588912022/37588497/eog
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L955[19:03:17] <istasi> vexa can i dl it somewhere with the oc support ?
L956[19:03:41] <Vexatos> Not yet
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L962[19:55:21] <istasi> anyone watching hamatora ?
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L965[20:00:37] <snirre01> Hello everybody
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L967[20:00:43] <istasi> hi
L968[20:00:46] <istasi> by
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L970[20:26:18] <Sangar> back
L971[20:28:05] <asie> hi Sangar
L972[20:28:32] * robhol eats Sangar
L973[20:28:54] <robhol> istasi: hamatora?
L974[20:29:05] * Sangar feels he is missing pieces
L975[20:29:55] <robhol> Sangar: mentally or physically? Because if it's the latter - I can explain
L976[20:30:02] <Sangar> yes
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L979[20:37:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i think i know what map making component i'll add next
L980[20:37:23] <Kilobyte> a computer controlled spawner
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L983[20:40:39] <Sangar> Kilobyte, i expect terrible things! :D
L984[20:40:59] <ping> $tip Sangar $0.10
L985[20:40:59] <^vDoge> ping, Sent Ɖ459 to Sangar
L986[20:41:15] <Sangar> \o/ i got richer again
L987[20:41:25] <robhol> You can practically retire :>
L988[20:41:27] * robhol hides
L989[20:41:42] <Kilobyte> component.spawner.spawn("cave_spider", 50, component.playerradar.coordsOf("Kethtar"), {health = 3000})
L990[20:41:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: like that?
L991[20:41:56] <Sangar> yes, yes, something like that :P
L992[20:42:14] <Kilobyte> totally doesn't spawn 50 cave spiders with 1500 hearts health where you are standing
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L994[20:42:54] <Kilobyte> $bal
L995[20:42:54] <^vDoge> Kilobyte, Ɖ888
L996[20:43:01] <Kilobyte> lal
L997[20:43:04] <ping> laaaaaaal
L998[20:43:12] <Kilobyte> $conv 888
L999[20:43:12] <^vDoge> Kilobyte, Ɖ888 = $0.1933 €0.1435 £0.1136
L1000[20:43:20] <Kilobyte> 15 cent, not bad
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L1002[20:43:23] <Kilobyte> well, 14
L1003[20:44:16] <ping> $tip Kilobyte €0.01
L1004[20:44:17] <^vDoge> ping, Sent Ɖ61 to Kilobyte (Stiepen)
L1005[20:44:34] <Kilobyte> Sangar: when i am done, i will do a player modifier
L1006[20:44:48] <Kilobyte> can i return methods?
L1007[20:44:54] <Kilobyte> or functions rather
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L1009[20:45:26] <Sangar> Kilobyte, sorta. you can return userdata, and that is passed on the __call (so you can `x()` the userdata).
L1010[20:45:40] <Kilobyte> hows that work with persistance?
L1011[20:46:00] <Sangar> as long as you save/load your userdata correctly, very well
L1012[20:46:12] <Sangar> (userdata has save/load functions)
L1013[20:46:23] <Kilobyte> how would i set the userdatas metatable?
L1014[20:46:25] <Sangar> see the Value interface in the api
L1015[20:46:30] <Sangar> you wouldn't
L1016[20:46:46] <Sangar> that's automatically done to provide that functionality
L1017[20:46:46] <Kilobyte> ah, so how to get __call to work
L1018[20:46:52] <Kilobyte> ohh neaz
L1019[20:46:53] <Kilobyte> *neat
L1020[20:47:02] <Sangar> as well as __index and __newindex e.g.
L1021[20:47:23] <Kilobyte> Sangar: OC lacks __next xD
L1022[20:47:29] <Kilobyte> like, its not standard
L1023[20:47:33] <Sangar> :P
L1024[20:47:37] <Kilobyte> but its one thing silcom will have
L1025[20:47:51] <Kilobyte> basicly next is overridden to check for a __next metaentry
L1026[20:47:57] <Sangar> most discussed topic of the lua mailing list ever :P
L1027[20:47:58] <Kilobyte> and if so it delegates its task to that
L1028[20:48:04] <Kilobyte> is it?
L1029[20:48:12] <Sangar> it feels like it
L1030[20:48:21] <Sangar> __next/__ipairs/__pairs,...
L1031[20:48:27] <ping> .l "Sangar" > "*"
L1032[20:48:28] <^v> ping, true
L1033[20:48:30] <ping> lua has spoken
L1034[20:48:31] <Kilobyte> i am not subscribed to that thing
L1035[20:48:44] <Sangar> it can be interesting some times
L1036[20:49:14] <Kilobyte> Sangar: anyways, i could make stuff like abc.def = true
L1037[20:49:23] <Kilobyte> instead of abc.setDef(true)
L1038[20:49:45] <Kilobyte> and you still can look at the table to figure out what it has
L1039[20:50:06] <Kilobyte> Sangar: silcom also has kernel mode __rawset and __rawget
L1040[20:50:13] <Sangar> mhm
L1041[20:50:15] <Kilobyte> those are called when usermode uses rawset/rawget
L1042[20:50:25] <Kilobyte> kernel can also bypass __metatable
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L1044[20:53:02] <Sangar> sandboxception :P
L1045[20:53:03] <Sangar> brb
L1046[20:53:05] <Kilobyte> component.playereditor.getPlayer("Kethtar").teleportTo(component.playereditor.getPlayer("Kilobyte22").getCoordinates())
L1047[20:53:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ^
L1048[20:53:08] <Kilobyte> :P
L1049[20:53:29] <Sangar> component.op? :P
L1050[20:53:44] <Kilobyte> its creative mode only :P
L1051[20:53:53] <Kilobyte> intended for map makers
L1052[20:57:18] <gamax92> So ... this happened https://i.imgur.com/O1M2Mn4.png
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L1056[21:13:23] <Sangar> :P
L1057[21:23:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: component.death = component.spawner
L1058[21:23:26] <Kilobyte> :P
L1059[21:24:20] <Kilobyte> Sangar: did you implement the args.getOptString?
L1060[21:24:51] <Sangar> Kilobyte, it's on the todo list for the 1.4 api update so i don't forget again >_>
L1061[21:25:01] <Sangar> (which is now an issue on github btw)
L1062[21:25:18] <Kilobyte> kk
L1063[21:25:39] <Kilobyte> Sangar: it will prob return null when stuffs missing, right?
L1064[21:28:45] <Sangar> once i add it i'd probably make it something like `Arguments.optString(int index, String default)`
L1065[21:28:45] <asie> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/2093094-1-7-2-extremeautomation-v0-1-fabricators-on
L1066[21:28:45] <asie> THIS
L1067[21:29:13] <Kilobyte> Sangar: lemme poke you a gist for my approach
L1068[21:29:20] <Sangar> k
L1069[21:30:31] <Sangar> asie, interesting
L1070[21:32:13] <asie> yes
L1071[21:32:16] <asie> it's a very cool mod
L1072[21:34:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: https://gist.github.com/Kilobyte22/4a27b5e078d47e586ef0
L1073[21:34:47] <Kilobyte> so scala devs can make use of having an Option[String]
L1074[21:34:59] <Kilobyte> while java devs are not excluded
L1075[21:35:08] <Sangar> yeah, that's pretty much what i was thinking, too.
L1076[21:35:26] * Kilobyte likes how Sangar and him often have same opinion
L1077[21:35:38] <Sangar> heh
L1078[21:36:14] <gamax92> Sangar is Kilobyte's long lost brother
L1079[21:36:27] <Sangar> i'd probably just overload the method tho (i.e. both time optString), since it's checkString and not getCheckedString, so that would feel more... uniform to me?
L1080[21:36:30] <Sangar> :P
L1081[21:36:46] <Sangar> i don't think i was adopted
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L1083[21:37:04] <Kilobyte> Sangar: derp, i forgot they differ in arg count
L1084[21:37:07] <Kilobyte> yeah, makes sense
L1085[21:39:50] <Kilobyte> Sangar: did i mention i am very happy you taught me scala?
L1086[21:39:57] <Kilobyte> $tip Sangar 20
L1087[21:39:57] <^vDoge> Kilobyte, Sent Ɖ20 to Sangar
L1088[21:40:11] <Sangar> mmm, i can't remember!
L1089[21:40:13] <Sangar> :P
L1090[21:41:09] <Sangar> $tip modersky 0x5ca1a
L1091[21:41:10] <^vDoge> Sangar, No such user
L1092[21:41:12] <Sangar> awww
L1093[21:41:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: LOL
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L1095[21:42:54] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i am mainly intending the spawner for the map i am going to do
L1096[21:43:28] <Kilobyte> Sangar: you know how i can create an entity by id?
L1097[21:43:48] <Sangar> no idea
L1098[21:43:57] <Sangar> haven't spawned any entities yet, besides items :P
L1099[21:44:00] * Kilobyte checks /summon command
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L1101[21:44:44] <Kilobyte> oh god fuck
L1102[21:44:59] <Kilobyte> i apperently still have chili on my hands and just rubbed my eyes
L1103[21:45:15] <Sangar> ooooh ouch
L1104[21:46:03] <Kilobyte> better than rubbing certain other things with chili hands
L1105[21:46:41] <Sangar> like, my eyes? :P
L1106[21:46:56] <Kilobyte> that too
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L1108[21:47:37] <Kilobyte> Sangar: now thats easy
L1109[21:47:39] <Kilobyte> Entity entity1 = EntityList.createEntityFromNBT(nbttagcompound, world);
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L1112[21:48:16] <Sangar> or byid, or byname i see. nice.
L1113[21:48:51] <Kilobyte> well, fromNbt is what i want
L1114[21:49:03] <Kilobyte> since you can pass custom nbt to the spawner (as lua table :P)
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L1116[21:49:48] <Sangar> i just had an idea for a fun block :X
L1117[21:50:16] <Sangar> quantum assembler / disassembler, converts entities to data and back (returns a uuid that is used to track the serialized data to avoid cloning)
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L1119[21:50:57] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i could maybe add that :P
L1120[21:51:04] <Kilobyte> because its not too hard
L1121[21:51:11] <Sangar> yeah
L1122[21:51:26] <Kilobyte> but the creative blocks first :P
L1123[21:51:34] <Kilobyte> or at least the spawner
L1124[21:51:41] <Sangar> do that. i'm not sure that block isn't too op anyway :P
L1125[21:51:47] <Sangar> also i'd need to come up with textures
L1126[21:51:49] <Sangar> >_>
L1127[21:52:07] <Kilobyte> i have same issue
L1128[21:52:21] <Kilobyte> i am literally considering to leave the mapmaking blocks without texture for now
L1129[21:52:32] * Kilobyte is highly unskilled in making textures
L1130[21:52:49] <Sangar> many programmers are :P
L1131[21:52:50] <Kilobyte> also MFW intellij imports the wrong @Callback
L1132[21:53:09] <Sangar> there's a reason there's a term such as 'programmer art'
L1133[21:54:34] <Sangar> what's the other @Callback? o.O
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L1135[21:55:14] <Kilobyte> com.sun.org.glassfish.external.amx.MBeanListener.Callback
L1136[21:55:34] <Kilobyte> its not even an annotation xD
L1137[21:55:48] <Sangar> was just about to say :D
L1138[21:55:58] <Sangar> open an issue!
L1139[21:56:05] <Sangar> :P
L1140[21:56:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: is it bad to use scala conventions in docstrings for lua methods?
L1141[21:57:00] <Kilobyte> i am about to use an Option[String]
L1142[21:57:06] <Sangar> maybe >_>
L1143[21:57:21] <Kilobyte> or i'd use a (String|Nil)
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L1146[21:58:03] <Sangar> string | nil, no? i.e. lowercase?
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L1148[21:59:17] <Kilobyte> i use uppercase because types, got a habit of that :P
L1149[21:59:25] <Kilobyte> @Callback(doc = """DEATH MUHAHAHAHAHAH - zap(targetMask: String, damage: Int, relative: (Boolean|Nil), comment: (String|Nil)): Boolean, (String|Nil)""")
L1150[21:59:35] <Kilobyte> that descriptive enough for the zapper?
L1151[22:00:59] <Kilobyte> Sangar: or should i make it more descriptive? :P
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L1153[22:01:05] <Sangar> :P well, if you absolutely have to. just thought it'd be nice to have docstrings somewhat following a convention (i.e. have it formatted as in oc). but as you wish ;)
L1154[22:01:26] <Sangar> and yes, the description itself should be sufficiently self-explanatory
L1155[22:01:41] <Kilobyte> :P
L1156[22:02:18] <Sangar> alternative suggestion: "This might... tingle a bit."
L1157[22:03:16] <Kilobyte> almost sounds better
L1158[22:03:36] <Kilobyte> actually, it does
L1159[22:03:41] <Kilobyte> mfw
L1160[22:04:11] <Kilobyte> i just realized i need special handling for the location variables to support vanilla command block style
L1161[22:04:17] <Kilobyte> aka ~ for relative values
L1162[22:05:19] * Sangar has no clue at all about vanilla commands
L1163[22:05:46] <Kilobyte> i can do this: /tp @p ~ ~2 ~
L1164[22:06:00] <Kilobyte> will teleport the closest player 2 blocks above the command sender
L1165[22:06:17] <Kilobyte> if you run it manually thats you
L1166[22:06:20] <Sangar> ...
L1167[22:06:23] <Kilobyte> but it also works in command blocks
L1168[22:06:26] <Sangar> what kind of esolang is that -.-
L1169[22:06:34] <Kilobyte> @p == closest player
L1170[22:06:46] <Sangar> yeah, i get it. but still. i don't like it :P
L1171[22:06:47] <Kilobyte> ~ == ~0 == 0 blocks from sender
L1172[22:06:52] <Kilobyte> yeah, its a pain
L1173[22:07:01] <Kilobyte> especially with selectors
L1174[22:07:08] <Kilobyte> @a[r=5]
L1175[22:07:14] <Kilobyte> all players in a 5 block radius
L1176[22:07:43] <Kilobyte> but i wanna support them anyways, as they are handy
L1177[22:08:22] <Sangar> hf then
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L1182[22:21:52] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how does checkAny react to passing not enough args?=
L1183[22:23:37] <Sangar> errors if there's too few args.
L1184[22:23:54] * Kilobyte sees additional if arising
L1185[22:24:01] <Kilobyte> i think i might need a map2nbt as well
L1186[22:24:19] <Kilobyte> to turn a Map[_, _] into an NBTTagCompound
L1187[22:25:05] <Sangar> hmhm
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L1189[22:26:26] <Kilobyte> oh dang
L1190[22:26:34] <Kilobyte> i need anti-recursion code
L1191[22:26:52] <Kilobyte> Sangar: or does the map from checkTable not allow recursion?
L1192[22:27:08] <Sangar> uh, i'm not sure
L1193[22:27:22] <Kilobyte> meh, will just add it to be sure
L1194[22:28:59] <Sangar> for lua->java it uses jnlua's converter iirc, so i kind of would expect it to support cycles
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L1196[22:30:23] <Kilobyte> yeah it should then
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L1198[22:30:49] <Sangar> i'm off for today
L1199[22:30:54] <Sangar> see you tomorrow o/
L1200[22:30:57] <Kilobyte> o/
L1201[22:34:22] <Kodos> Good games under 10 bucks on Steam, Go
L1202[22:40:51] <Alissa> TF2
L1203[22:40:56] <Alissa> Kodos, ^
L1204[22:41:01] <Kodos> lolno
L1205[22:41:19] <Kodos> I'd rather pay a hooker 10 dollars to give me syphillis than play TF2
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L1207[22:46:05] <Alissa> Planetside 2.
L1208[22:50:48] <Dashkal> mmm, PS2
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