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L3[00:09:41] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i wonder if
i can get custom lua c extensions to work with oc without having to
recompile the binaries
L4[00:09:41] <Kilobyte> probably not
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L7[00:14:10] <ds84182> Kilobyte, you would
have to modify the kernel to load the c extension before it gets
rid of require.
L8[00:14:23] <Kilobyte> does the kernel even
have access to require?
L9[00:14:51] <Kodos> Thaumcraft is leaking
packets all over my nice server =(
L10[00:14:54] <ds84182> Kilobyte, yes
L11[00:15:20] <ds84182> Kernel has access
to everything, unless Sangar did something weird
L12[00:15:35] <Kilobyte> not to io
L13[00:15:35] <Sangar> i did something
weird
L14[00:15:40] <Kilobyte> according to
sangar
L15[00:15:52] <Kilobyte> Sangar: maybe
leave in those two? :P
L16[00:16:12] <Sangar> the kernel is
already 'pseudo-sandboxed'. to avoid the worst-case if the actual
sandbox is broken.
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L18[00:16:30] <Kilobyte> (maybe as config
setting so ppl can't easily escape if sandbox is broken
L19[00:16:31] <Kilobyte> )
L20[00:16:38] <Sangar> maybe
L21[00:16:47] <Kilobyte> because i really
could enjoy having access to dbus from mc
L22[00:16:53] <Sangar> :P
L23[00:16:56] <Kilobyte> easy communication
between mc and outside world
L24[00:17:08] <Kilobyte> Sangar: you know
what dbus is, right?
L25[00:18:12] <Sangar> sorta kinda i think
i do
L26[00:18:18] <Sangar> too lazy to google
>_>
L27[00:18:40] <Kilobyte> async IPC
L28[00:18:58] <Kilobyte> thats what pretty
much any inter-program api uses on linux
L29[00:19:04] <Kilobyte> like the
notification system
L30[00:19:12] <Kilobyte> heck, even the
skype api uses dbus
L31[00:19:22] <Kilobyte> i can control vlc
via dbus too
L32[00:19:25] <Kilobyte> or pidgin
L33[00:19:28] <Sangar> right
L34[00:19:39] <Kilobyte> this way i could
control a OC computer using dbus
L35[00:21:26] <Kilobyte> Sangar: see why i
want that stuff? :P
L36[00:21:43] <Kilobyte> i could automate
the text editor to reboot the OC computer whenever i save a
file
L37[00:21:50] <Kilobyte> handy for OS
dev
L38[00:22:08] <Kilobyte> actually, that
won't work because FRIKKIN FS BUFFERING
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L41[00:24:33] <Sangar> change the
config...
L42[00:24:47] <Kilobyte> oh you can disable
buffering?
L43[00:24:54] <Sangar> yes
L44[00:24:57] <Sangar> since always
L45[00:25:06] <Kilobyte> w00t
L46[00:25:19] <Kilobyte> was about to
suggest that
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L52[00:28:00] <Kilobyte> Sangar: so yeah,
maybe add a setting that disables the "weird" stuff with
like a big warning: "only enable if you know what you are
doing. In case the sandbox has a hole (can happen due to bugs) this
will allow anyone with access to change and delete any file on your
system"
L53[00:28:10] <Kilobyte> kinda like with
debug api
L54[00:28:15] <Kilobyte> or was it
bytecode
L55[00:28:50] <Kilobyte> just that those
are enforced scala side
L56[00:28:59] <Kilobyte> *this is
L57[00:29:26] <Sangar> bytecode, but
yeah
L58[00:29:43] <Sangar> added to todo list
:P
L59[00:30:06] <Kilobyte> if i feel like it
i might do myself tomorrow
L60[00:30:28] <Kilobyte> shouldn't take too
long... just adding a setting (easy) and adding a simple if (even
easier)
L61[00:30:41] <Sangar> pretty much,
yeah
L62[00:30:57] <gamax92> ohai Sangar
L63[00:32:18] <gamax92> fine, no bug fixes
for you.
L64[00:32:23] <Sangar> wot
L65[00:32:34] <Sangar> hi also
L66[00:32:37] <Sangar> giev buhgs
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Sangar
L68[00:33:19] <gamax92> lol
L69[00:33:40] *
Sangar feels like he's in kindergarten again :P
L70[00:33:59] <Kilobyte> yay
L71[00:34:08] <Kilobyte> lets build a sand
castle!
L72[00:34:21] *
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L73[00:36:16] <Kilobyte> anyways
L74[00:36:24] <gamax92> Sangar: pr
L75[00:36:28] <Kilobyte> mfw videos
distract me from coding
L76[00:37:02] <gamax92> bwm, Bad Window
Manager
L77[00:37:23] <gamax92> Kilobyte: i wrote a
window manager
L78[00:37:28] <Kilobyte> lol
L79[00:37:30] <Kilobyte> lang?
L80[00:37:34] <gamax92> C
L81[00:37:40] <gamax92> it shoves all of
the windows off screen
L82[00:37:53] <Kilobyte> ?
L83[00:38:39] <gamax92> Kilobyte:
what?
L84[00:38:49] <Kilobyte> whatcha mean by
that
L85[00:39:04] <gamax92> for all windows on
screen do move window offscreen end
L86[00:39:33] <Kilobyte> hows that useful?
xD
L87[00:39:41] <gamax92> so you can use the
desktop
L88[00:40:03] <Kilobyte> desktop is useless
for me besides looking good
L89[00:40:33] <gamax92> yeah but with those
pesky windows in the way of the desktop, it starts too look
dirty
L90[00:40:44] <gamax92> so, move all the
windows away and the desktop once again shines
L91[00:41:20] <Kilobyte> well, i use a
tiling wm
L92[00:41:31] <Kilobyte> so i have no
overlapping windows
L94[00:44:18] <v^> i got a kitten with six
toes
L95[00:44:25] <v^> also my friend is
fapping in my room
L96[00:44:28] <v^> leme open door
L97[00:44:49] <Sangar> tmi
L98[00:45:00] <v^> "gimme 5
minutes"
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L101[00:47:09] <Kilobyte> Sangar: you
feeling evil?
L102[00:47:28] <Sangar> that depends on
your definition of evil
L104[00:47:59] -Kibibyte- [Kilobyte] Vechs' Test
World - Vexian Deathbloom (V117) | by vechz | 9m43s | 89w2d ago |
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L105[00:52:49] <Sangar> i love the sound
of all those splash potions :>
L106[00:53:44] <Kilobyte> yup
L107[00:53:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: you'll
love free glass
L108[00:54:09] <Kilobyte> basicly he
sometimes puts big chunks of glass on the map
L109[00:54:31] <Kilobyte> and then he
gives you a free glass harvester (stick with efficiency and silk
touch)
L110[00:54:43] <Sangar> :P
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L114[01:00:00] <Techokami> gaaar, there's
a mod I want to bring to 1.7.10 from 1.6.4, but all the netcode has
to be completely redone and I don't know where to fucking start
with something like that :(
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L117[01:00:56] <gamax92> Techokami: have
you tried turning it off, but then leaving it off?
L118[01:01:32] <Techokami> no I mean, the
code uses a LOT of the old netcode stuff, but Mojang removed it all
and replaced it with netty in 1.7.x
L120[01:01:35] -Kibibyte- [Kilobyte] Vechs' Test
World - Jump Potion Splashers and Augmented Bow Jumping (V116) | by
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L122[01:03:08] <Caitlyn> Oh man.. this
sucks.. OC won't work with RiM properly, and CC doesn't work with
bundled cables. So I can't use cables to control my RiM powered
door movement
L123[01:04:48] <Kodos> Won't work with
RiM?
L124[01:05:00] <Kodos> Weird
L125[01:05:17] <Kodos> Also, anyone ever
have issues in 1.7.2 with items not stacking properly, and what mod
might be causing it
L126[01:05:20] <Caitlyn> yeah move always
returns true, and no movement happens
L127[01:05:34] <Caitlyn> same method works
fine in CC.
L128[01:05:39] <Kodos> Weird
L129[01:05:45] <Sangar> remain in motion?
i've been planning to see how/if i can make it compatible with that
again, just haven't had the time yet.
L130[01:06:04] <TangentDelta> #oc is
always active...
L131[01:06:11] <Sangar> Kilobyte, looks
like portal test chambers :P
L132[01:06:19] <Caitlyn> Yeah, switched to
Remain a while back
L133[01:06:45] <Caitlyn> the work I did
with OpenFrames broke horribly cause of nasty threading
issues
L134[01:06:55] <Sangar> mhm
L135[01:06:57] <Kilobyte> Sangar: heh...
he both does awesomely cool and awesomely deadly stuff
L136[01:07:03] <Sangar> hehe
L137[01:07:09] <Kilobyte> puts that
together in a map
L138[01:07:16] <Kilobyte> salts it with a
bit of CTM
L139[01:07:19] <Kilobyte> and releases
it
L140[01:07:51] <gamax92> stabbing people
can be deadly
L141[01:07:59] <Techokami> does Remain in
Motion have a 1.7.10 release?
L142[01:08:26] <gamax92> Sangar: oh right
i forgot to mention, Weak keys don't seem to work at all
L143[01:08:46] <gamax92> I've gone through
two examples where the keys vanish in lua but remain in luaj
L144[01:09:10] <Sangar> gamax92, oh that's
just brilliant.
L145[01:09:36] <Sangar> as for your fix,
wouldn't that mean that the slots still remain around forever (or
rather, until overwritten) just with a nil value?
L146[01:09:41] <ds84182> boop. LuaJ is
much broken. Somebody should rewrite it completely.
L147[01:10:03] <v^> yes pls
>_>
L148[01:10:10] <gamax92> Sangar: hmm
true
L149[01:10:13] <Sangar> there must be some
c -> java compilers, surely? :P
L150[01:10:19] <v^> but slow
L151[01:10:21] <gamax92> Sangar: wouldn't
work very well
L152[01:10:22] <Techokami> just checked,
there's a rushed and glitchy 1.7.2 version of Remain, no word on
1.7.10 and there's no gradle build files in the repo
L153[01:10:23] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i
wonder...
L154[01:10:34] <Kilobyte> gamax92: mind
testing something for me?
L155[01:10:37] <Caitlyn> WTF...
L156[01:10:39] <Caitlyn> now it works
:/
L157[01:10:41] <Caitlyn> how...
L158[01:10:43] <Caitlyn> wat
L159[01:10:43] <gamax92> Sangar: Well ...
not too sure on how the keys are actually supposed to be
deleted
L160[01:10:45] *
Caitlyn confuse
L161[01:10:59] <gamax92> Kilobyte:
yes?
L162[01:11:04] <Kilobyte> try putting a
coroutine in a weak table in luaj
L163[01:11:12] <Kilobyte> if i am correct
it will not vanish
L164[01:11:15] <gamax92> v^: go do
that
L165[01:11:39] <Kilobyte> in c lua it
should get collected
L166[01:11:44] <gamax92> not actually on
computer with devel stuff
L167[01:11:45] <gamax92> or luaj
L168[01:11:49] <ds84182>
res.getResourceAsString is love, res.getResourceAsString is
life.
L169[01:12:23] <ds84182> gamax92, you have
your wii, right?
L170[01:12:25] <gamax92> Kilobyte: also,
weak table in which mode?
L171[01:12:26] <ds84182> Do it on
there
L172[01:12:26] <gamax92> ds84182:
yes?
L173[01:12:28] <gamax92> no
L174[01:12:29] <ds84182> teehee
L175[01:12:39] <Sangar> gamax92, hrm, me
neither, it's really weird... 'dropWeakArrayValues' seems to
just... iterate the table... i don't understant
L176[01:12:42] <Kilobyte> try both, but
put the coroutine on the weak side
L177[01:12:50] <Sangar> understand,
even
L178[01:13:00] <gamax92> I don't odd
L179[01:13:17] <gamax92> anyway gonna fire
up computer
L180[01:13:34] <Sangar> meh, as long as it
doesn't error anymore >_> noone in their right mind should
use the fallback anyway
L181[01:13:35] <Kilobyte> and i actually
gotta work on da emulator -.-
L182[01:14:26] <Kilobyte> Sangar: might
for lulz have platform plugins for unpatched luaj
L183[01:14:40] <Kilobyte> so you can enjoy
playing with all the bugs
L184[01:14:45] <Sangar> >_>
L185[01:14:52] <Kilobyte> in the
emulator
L186[01:14:58] <Sangar> you've been
watching too many of those yt vids
L187[01:15:09] <Kilobyte> maaaaybe
L188[01:15:23] <gamax92> Sangar:
theoretically, the setting of null should be "dropping"
them but ... nep
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L190[01:15:28] <gamax92> *NPE
L191[01:15:53] <ds84182> gamax92, are you
going to merge all your fixes with the real LuaJ?
L192[01:16:06] <Sangar> hmhm, and adding a
null check where it npes is not an option? (i don't have the
stacktrace you pasted anymore)
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L195[01:17:20] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
anyways... computer.shutdown(false)
L196[01:17:21] <Kilobyte> :P
L197[01:17:38] <Sangar> oh... that late
again
L198[01:17:58] <Kilobyte> yeah... irc
means time goes by 5 times as fast
L199[01:18:10] <Kilobyte> no matter if you
are even active
L200[01:18:22] <Kilobyte> just the fact
that you are connected to an irc server
L201[01:18:39] <Kilobyte> anyways, off to
phone
L202[01:19:09] <Sangar> i wonder what they
do with all the time
L203[01:19:13] <Sangar> the ones that are
stealing it i mean
L204[01:20:21] <Kilobyte> they probably
use it so they actually have time to maintain the servers
L205[01:20:23] <Caitlyn> Well, I have no
idea what is different, but now suddenly RiM is working with
OC.
L206[01:20:24] <Caitlyn> so woo.
L207[01:20:34] <Kilobyte> and to
"maintain the servers"
L208[01:20:52] <Sangar> Caitlyn, magic!
sounds like it'll break again at the worst possible time, tho
:P
L209[01:21:08] <gamax92> Sangar: oh ... i
guess so >_>
L210[01:21:10] <Caitlyn> Yeah but it's
better then using CC for this.
L211[01:21:10] <Caitlyn> :P
L212[01:21:14] <gamax92> I'll look into
that
L213[01:21:36] <Sangar> gamax92, ok, i'll
wait with the pull then :) and get some sleep, too
L214[01:21:46] <Sangar> gnight all
o/
L215[01:23:52] <Caitlyn> Night
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L219[01:40:11] <Caitlyn> ugh.... I've
derped today
L220[01:40:28] <Caitlyn> how do I get a
component by address?
L221[01:41:22] <Caitlyn> oh fml
L222[01:41:23] <v^> .w
component.proxy
L223[01:41:23] <^v> v^,
component.proxy(address:string):table Gets a 'proxy' object for a
component that provides all methods the component provides as
fields, so they can be called more directly (instead of via
invoke).
L224[01:41:27] <Caitlyn> I was right, just
typoing
L225[01:41:38] <Caitlyn> Yeah that's what
I was doing, I had typed componenet
L226[01:42:56] <v^> struggle is real when
you typo the intentional typo back into a non-typo
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L230[01:46:28] <Caitlyn> ergh...
L231[01:46:48] <v^> EURGH
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L233[01:49:45] <Rolie129> Hello?
L234[01:49:47] <gamax92> Hello
L236[01:53:15] <Caitlyn> That's not a bug.
You need a OpenOS floppy to boot from, meaning you need a floppy
drive if you don't have a T3 case
L237[01:54:24] <Caitlyn> erm I think you
can craft a OpenOS floppy with a book, and a floppy disk
L238[01:54:25] <Rolie129> there we
go
L239[01:54:38] <Caitlyn> now you can type
install, and it'll install to a harddrive
L240[01:54:44] <Caitlyn> or, just keep
booting from the floppy either way
L241[01:55:33] <ds84182> I broke v^
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L246[02:16:37] <Rolie129> How do I use my
Server rack correctly again?
L247[02:17:20] <v^> you put servers in
them
L248[02:17:25] <v^> and push the green
shiny button
L249[02:17:53] <Rolie129> No duh
L250[02:18:46] <Rolie129> I mean where do
I put it based on the computers lovation
L251[02:19:00] <v^> computers have
lovation?
L252[02:19:19] <v^> put server
anywhere
L253[02:19:21] <v^> change side
L255[02:19:24] <v^> profit
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L257[02:20:08] <Rolie129> I'm getting
nowhere with this
L258[02:20:37] <Caitlyn> servers don't
care where they are placed.
L259[02:20:46] <Caitlyn> they have no
relation to a computer.
L260[02:21:13] <Caitlyn> like v^ said,
place rack, place components in server, place server in rack
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L264[02:42:35] <Rolie129> So then
L265[02:42:37] <Rolie129> I got this
L266[02:50:37] <v^> I got this
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L281[03:50:31] <^v> v^, Fail added
L282[03:50:39] <ds84182> <^v^>
L284[03:50:58] <v^> who wants opper on my
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L285[03:51:02] <ds84182> ME
L286[03:51:05] <v^> cant say network
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L287[03:51:06] <Alissa> Not I.
L288[03:51:10] <v^> but will say network
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L322[06:25:55] <istasi> morning \o
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L332[07:15:27] <Eevv> Hello
L333[07:15:59] <istasi> hi
L334[07:16:05] <Eevv> can someone help
me
L335[07:16:09] <Eevv> how do i code the
hologram
L336[07:16:14] <istasi> that surely
depends on the question
L337[07:16:19] <Eevv> i lost the wiki
page
L339[07:16:47] <Eevv> thanks
L340[07:16:50] <Eevv> and one more
thing
L341[07:17:54] <Eevv> when i run
"label -a 542 c" and type df it does say C
L342[07:17:58] <Eevv> on the drive
L343[07:18:07] <Eevv> but once typing
"cd c"
L344[07:18:19] <Eevv> It says "not a
directory"
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L346[07:19:05] <istasi> cd mnt/c ?
L347[07:19:18] *
istasi doesnt know jack about label -.-'
L348[07:19:57] <Eevv> well
L349[07:20:08] <Eevv> me neitherzz
L350[07:21:31] <istasi> ah
L351[07:21:36] <Eevv> well
L352[07:21:40] <Eevv> now im stuck
L353[07:21:42] <istasi> you just label it,
you dont actually change the path
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L355[07:21:52] <Eevv> i made a file in tmp
called holo
L356[07:22:11] <Eevv> and it has a code in
it "set (x:1, y:1, z:1, value:true)
L357[07:22:25] <istasi> do you write it
like that?
L358[07:22:30] <istasi> or set
(1,1,1,true) ?
L359[07:22:42] <Eevv> upon running it is
says "/tmp/holo:1: <name> expected near '1'"
L360[07:22:54] <Eevv> i dont know
L361[07:23:04] <istasi> you dont know how
you typed it?
L362[07:23:05] <istasi> mmh
L363[07:23:13] <istasi> you could give a
screenshot then?
L364[07:23:20] <Eevv> ok the
L366[07:24:52] <Eevv> here
L368[07:25:33] <istasi> that is very wrong
^^
L369[07:25:56] <istasi> first you need to
let it know you wanna to with a component, but you dont got
components without requiring it
L370[07:26:04] <istasi> so you ened local
components = require('components')
L372[07:26:39] <istasi> then you need to
do the set on the hologram, hologram is a component, so
component.hologram ... on the hologram you wanna do a set (), so
component.hologram.set ()
L374[07:27:28] <istasi> in the docs its
saying x:1, y:1, z:1, to help you understand which argument refers
to which dimension, however in truth, it needs it like this,
component.hologram.set(1,1,1, true)
L375[07:27:41] <Eevv> edit
L376[07:27:44] <Eevv> oops
L377[07:28:17] <Eevv> wow wait
L379[07:28:43] <istasi> oh thats my
fault
L380[07:28:51] <istasi> its component
-.-', not components
L382[07:29:02] <Eevv> sorry
L383[07:29:07] <istasi> i seem to mistype
that one, a bloody lot :(
L385[07:30:44] <istasi> how does the
content of the file look?
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L388[07:31:13] <Eevv> its
L389[07:31:20] <Eevv> holo
L390[07:31:22] <istasi> probably somewhere
you got a components instead of component still
L391[07:31:38] <Eevv> yes
L392[07:31:41] <Eevv> local
components
L393[07:32:00] <Eevv> and then i get
this
L394[07:32:23] <Eevv>
"boot/03_component.lua:51: no primary 'hologram'
avaivable"
L395[07:32:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Eevv:
What are you DOING!? Why would you do such a thing as name a UNIX
drive C?
L396[07:32:43] <Eevv> im new
L397[07:32:46] <istasi> oh my, so you
havn't connected the hologram to the computer?
L398[07:32:56] <Eevv> i have with a
cable
L399[07:33:15] <istasi> eevv, dont look at
the scary cat!, he's just not used to our superior windows
ways!11
L400[07:33:29] *
istasi giggles
L402[07:34:03] <Eevv> well now look
L403[07:34:09] *
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L404[07:34:18] <ShadowKatStudios> UNIX is
technologically superior!
L406[07:34:19] *
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L408[07:34:31] <Eevv> so you can clearly
see hologram on your left
L409[07:34:41] <istasi> eevv, try write
components in the shell
L410[07:34:55] <Eevv> now what?
L411[07:34:57] <istasi> should provide a
list
L412[07:35:00] <Eevv> yes
L413[07:35:03] <Eevv> screen
L414[07:35:06] <Eevv> and an address
L415[07:35:07] <istasi> is hologram on
it?
L416[07:35:10] <Eevv> keyboard
L418[07:35:19] <Eevv> yes its next to the
pc
L419[07:35:30] <istasi> then for whatever
reason it wont talk with it :(
L421[07:36:08] *
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[A-Z]+
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L423[07:36:47] <istasi> sec, gonna try
setup it here aswell ^^
L424[07:37:01] <Kodos> Eevv, Holo only
connects on bottom
L425[07:37:08] <Eevv> what
L426[07:37:17] <Kodos> You need to use a
cable or something under the holo
L427[07:37:21] <Eevv> then how is it
supposed to project?
L428[07:37:24] <Eevv> oh ok
L431[07:38:04] <Eevv> yep its there
L432[07:38:08] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
my motd set up to rename drives corresponding to their mount points
in fstab. Yeah, I have a fstab.
L433[07:38:31] <Eevv> WOW
L434[07:38:35] <Eevv> it WORKS!!!
L435[07:38:42] <istasi> \o/
L437[07:39:10] <Eevv> .. now what?
L438[07:39:23] <istasi> well, what do you
wanna do with it?
L439[07:39:45] <Kodos> .w holo
L441[07:39:47] <Kodos> ^ That's what
L444[07:42:13] <Eevv> now i want to make a
program
L445[07:42:33] <istasi> best luck
\o/
L447[07:44:39] <Eevv> so now how do i save
and edit variables?
L448[07:44:43] <Eevv> and get the
input
L449[07:45:03] <istasi> do we got a lua
tutorial?
L450[07:45:11] <Eevv> yes it was
crap
L451[07:45:13] <Eevv> only like
L452[07:45:19] <Eevv> teaches you to
mount
L453[07:45:46] <istasi> think someone
wrote a program that teaches lua, though trials.. mmmh
L454[07:49:27] <Eevv> guys
L455[07:49:31] <Eevv> what are server
racks
L456[07:51:00] <Eevv> and how to run
floppy disk
L457[07:51:48] <ShadowKatStudios> 'run
floppy disk' seems legit.
L458[07:53:29] <istasi> what do you mean
by that?
L459[07:53:35] <istasi> run floppy disk
?
L460[07:55:54] <Eevv> i just found out,
and its stupid
L461[07:56:03] <Eevv> you have to do cd
everytime
L462[07:56:11] <Eevv> and if you want
another floppy disk then
L463[07:56:15] <Eevv> shut down and
repeat
L464[07:56:21] <Eevv> now how to use
server racks?
L465[07:58:01] <ShadowKatStudios> You
don't need to shutdown o.O
L466[07:59:07] <Eevv> when i put
everything in the server rack
L467[07:59:11] <Eevv> it tells me i need a
cpu
L468[07:59:15] <Eevv> now what the
hell
L469[07:59:24] <Eevv> how do i even insert
one
L470[07:59:40] <ShadowKatStudios> The CPU
slot?
L471[07:59:47] <Eevv> where
L472[08:00:04] <Eevv> server racks dont
have one
L473[08:00:22] <ShadowKatStudios> IIRC, in
a server, there are 4 columns, expansion cards, RAM, CPUs and
HDDs
L474[08:00:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Third
column
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L477[08:01:05] <Eevv> yes four columns but
they all have power icon
L478[08:01:09] <Eevv> and i cant insert a
cp
L479[08:01:10] <Eevv> cpu
L480[08:01:14] <Eevv> only servers
L481[08:01:25] <Kodos> Eevv, that's the
rack
L482[08:01:30] <Kodos> You need an actual
SERVER to put IN the rack
L483[08:01:36] <robhol> lol
L484[08:01:52] <Eevv> obviously
L485[08:02:08] <Eevv> well i had it in the
whole time
L486[08:02:15] <Kodos> Obviously not that
obvious apparently
L487[08:02:30] <Eevv> well what else would
you put in?
L488[08:02:51] <Eevv> when i put servers
in
L489[08:02:53] <Eevv> it says
L490[08:03:05] <Eevv> "Last error: No
CPU is installed in the computer."
L491[08:04:05] <Caitlyn> hold the server,
right click, you'll get a GUI to put components in
L492[08:05:16] <Eevv> thanks
L493[08:05:33] <Eevv> no is server better
or normal computer?
L494[08:05:49] <Kodos> Depends on what you
want to do really
L495[08:06:00] <Kodos> But generally
servers are 'more powerful' than computers
L496[08:06:17] <Eevv> so if iwant to
attach a lot of things with cables
L497[08:06:23] <Eevv> i would need a
server?
L498[08:06:46] <Kodos> Component limit is
based on CPU count, so yes
L499[08:06:58] <Eevv> wow
L500[08:07:03] <Eevv> opencomputers is
hard
L501[08:07:11] <Eevv> computercraft looks
much easier
L502[08:07:26] <Eevv> but im here for
realism
L503[08:07:28] <Kodos> It's not hard at
all, just takes some getting used to because CC is kiddie
computers
L504[08:07:48] <Kodos> Stone and magic
dust doesn't make a computer
L505[08:07:54] <robhol> Babby's first
computer :>
L506[08:07:59] <Eevv> well
L507[08:08:07] <Eevv> you could do alot
with both pcs
L508[08:08:23] <Eevv> but its what you
need to get those done
L509[08:08:25] <robhol> and CC IS much
easier, but it has a bunch of flaws that OC has managed to
solve
L510[08:08:28] <Eevv> thats why i chose
oc
L511[08:09:09] <Eevv> i see oc is
cool
L512[08:09:13] <Eevv> but its so hard for
me
L513[08:09:21] <Eevv> i dont even know how
to send a redstone signal
L514[08:09:29] <Eevv> and the hologram is
hard
L515[08:09:36] <Eevv> you have to set one
by one voxel
L516[08:09:42] <robhol> .. eh
L517[08:09:52] <robhol> out of curisity,
how did you think it'd work?
L518[08:10:04] <Kodos> There's other ways
to do the holo
L519[08:10:06] <Kodos> Not just one pixel
at a time
L520[08:10:10] <Eevv> atleast a 3d paint
program would be cool
L521[08:10:18] <Eevv> layer by layer
L522[08:10:22] <robhol> so, make one
:p
L523[08:10:26] <Kodos> I have a cave
mapping program I made from a modified version of a program Sanger
did
L524[08:10:27] <Eevv> are you
serious
L525[08:10:39] <Eevv> i dont even know how
to output a redstoe signal
L526[08:10:44] <robhol> so, learn
L527[08:11:14] <Eevv> how
L528[08:11:17] <Eevv> anywya
L529[08:11:20] <Kodos> One step at a
time
L530[08:11:25] <Eevv> links please?
L531[08:11:29] <Kodos> .w
L533[08:11:32] <Eevv> trial and error took
me long
L534[08:11:32] <Kodos> .rtfm lua
L536[08:11:41] <Kodos> Start at those two
places
L537[08:11:56] <istasi> <3 trial and
error
L538[08:12:04] <Eevv> once i finish lua
manual i will be pro, yes?
L539[08:12:15] <Kodos> Depends on how much
of it you actually absorb
L540[08:12:21] <Kodos> And you don't just
decide to say 'fuck it' and give up
L541[08:12:24] <istasi> what do you mena,
once you finish? Oo
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L543[08:12:35] <Kodos> Reading,
Istasi
L544[08:13:17] <Eevv> i do a lot of fuck
it
L545[08:13:23] <robhol> that manual
doesn't seem very beginner friendly
L546[08:13:31] <Eevv> when i try to learn
to code
L547[08:13:32] <robhol> "let's
explain symbols in backus-fucking-naur-form"
L548[08:13:36] <robhol> syntax*
L549[08:13:36] <Eevv> my brain
shutsdown
L550[08:13:49] <Eevv> and its hard to
calculate alteast 13 + 12
L551[08:13:50] <Kodos> robhol, programming
isn't very beginner friendly
L552[08:14:05] <robhol> *shrug* not really
the point
L553[08:14:27] <robhol> the point is,
why'd they use backus-naur form when they could've... NOT done
that
L554[08:14:42] <Kodos> Then write a better
manual
L555[08:14:44] <Kodos> And submit it
L557[08:15:48] <Kodos> You realize that's
the same thing
L558[08:16:01] <robhol> no it's not.
L559[08:16:03] <Kodos> That's literally
the manual, just for 5.0 and not 5.2
L560[08:16:29] <Eevv> thats a shit
manual
L561[08:16:31] <Eevv> it hurts my
eyes
L563[08:17:07] <istasi> reading that
manual from start to end, will cause burn out, without a doubt
-.-'
L564[08:17:41] <Kodos> Not really
L565[08:17:50] <Kodos> I read it a couple
times, and actually got started on learning
L566[08:17:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Learning
through experimentation is generally more effective
L567[08:17:58] <robhol> not all of it's as
relevant
L568[08:18:16] <robhol> but if you can't
handle a bit of reading, you probably won't make it very far
L569[08:18:30] <Eevv> wow ok
L570[08:18:45] <Kodos> Low tolerance for
anything is generally a short trip to frustration
L571[08:19:06] <Eevv> do i put it onto my
pc?
L572[08:19:10] <Eevv> the file you sent
me
L573[08:19:13] <robhol> Kodos: I know. I
know a LOT about low tolerance :3
L574[08:19:16] <Eevv> the text page
L575[08:19:43] <robhol> Eevv: if you read
PIL, the 5 first chapters should be enough for a decent
foundation.
L576[08:19:55] <Eevv> but it looks like a
program
L577[08:19:57] <istasi> eevv, copy the
url, then do cd /tmp make sure you got a internet card in the
computer, and write wget , then press the insert key
L578[08:19:59] <Eevv> and i cant
control+v
L579[08:20:03] <istasi> eevv, it is
L581[08:20:09] <Eevv> wow thats
genius
L582[08:20:26] <istasi> dont write the
,
L583[08:20:54] <Eevv> thanks
L584[08:21:13] <Eevv> it works
L585[08:21:15] <Eevv> WOW
L587[08:22:38] <istasi> you could setup 2
computers, one with the tutorial, another for testing what you
read
L588[08:23:04] <istasi> it sticks much
better if you experiment with it as you learn
L589[08:23:18] <Eevv> erm lirning
L590[08:26:13] <Eevv> NOO
L591[08:26:15] <Eevv> power went out
L592[08:27:06] <istasi> could use a
creative case instead xD
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L603[09:08:22] <istasi> .w unicode
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L620[11:06:01] <Sangar> o/
L621[11:06:07] <istasi> \o
L622[11:08:13] <istasi> are there
something missing or wrong with df btw that i should fix, or just
slack ?
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L624[11:09:42] <Sangar> lack of time,
really :/ i'll try to have a look later.
L625[11:10:16] <asie> oh god
L626[11:10:24] <asie> i just realized that
if dramasplash cannot connect to the drama server
L627[11:10:26] <asie> it has a chance to
crash
L628[11:10:30] <asie> in other words
L629[11:10:37] <asie> with iptables, i can
remotely crash minecraft instances
L630[11:13:20] <Sangar> that's...
disturbing
L631[11:18:16] <asie> Sangar: it is
L632[11:18:23] <asie> you know what's more
disturbing?
L633[11:18:26] <asie> i didn't even code
dramasplash
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L635[11:18:42] <asie> so i can't be blamed
for it
L636[11:20:44] <Sangar> :P
L637[11:21:04] <asie> Sangar: and you know
what's ironic?
L638[11:21:11] <asie> remotely disabling
minecraft instances of competing modpacks
L639[11:21:14] <asie> would definitely
cause a lot of drama
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L642[11:32:19] <Sangar> asie, true
:>
L643[11:32:58] <Sangar> istasi, custom
os?
L644[11:33:04] <istasi> yah
L645[11:33:08] <Sangar> nice
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L647[11:42:05] <istasi> and registered
events dies once registoree dies! :P
L648[11:42:50] <ShadowKatStudios> So
Firefox had brought an i7 machine to it's knees
L649[11:43:09] <ShadowKatStudios> (Said
instance has at least 100 tabs and has been running for over a
week)
L650[11:47:03] <ShadowKatStudios> It's
also using almost 2GB of RAM
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L652[11:47:43] <istasi> oh thats qute
decent considering 100 tabs i'd think
L653[11:47:57] <istasi> my chrome is using
atleast 1gb+ and i got like 12 tabs
L654[11:48:11] <ShadowKatStudios> I've
repeatedly killed Flash though.
L655[11:48:53] <ShadowKatStudios> The 100
tabs are the result of a week's worth of wiki reading
L656[11:49:01] <ShadowKatStudios> tvtropes
specifically
L657[11:52:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Also,
Firefox is apparently superior engineering if it's got that sort of
memory usage ratio to chrome. I guess it's 'cause Firefox uses only
one process.
L658[11:52:44] <istasi> i havn't killed
any flash or whatever though
L659[11:53:01] <istasi> 4 youtubes
L660[11:53:26] <istasi> but yeah, does
seem so
L661[11:53:47] <ShadowKatStudios> However,
it's using 30% CPU
L662[11:54:40] <istasi> dunno if we should
compare based on %
L663[11:55:14] <ShadowKatStudios> This
/is/ an i7 so you have a point.
L664[11:55:51] <ShadowKatStudios> By
killing off all the non-tvtropes pages I got memory usage down to
1.75GB
L665[11:56:12] <istasi> im at ~22%, for
whole system with minecraft, torrents (~100 seeding, approx 2mb/s
out atm)
L666[11:56:26] <istasi> chrome is like ~1%
of that
L667[11:56:46] <ShadowKatStudios> So
chrome appears to be better for CPU usage.
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L669[11:56:54] <istasi> im at 11.65gb ram
usage atm ^^
L670[11:57:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Now I
understand why people like chrome, these people have netbooks and
Windows 8.
L671[11:57:42] <ShadowKatStudios> You have
>11 GB RAM? Or are you using swap?
L672[11:57:59] <istasi> got 16gb
installed
L673[11:58:11] <ShadowKatStudios>
Ah.
L674[11:58:22] <ShadowKatStudios> This is
the best computer in my house and it has 8.
L675[11:58:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Firefox
has dropped to ~25% CPU :D
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L678[11:59:09] <istasi> i7 3770k, 16gb
ram, nvidia 780, quite decent ssd disk at ~260gb ^^
L679[12:00:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Lemme
check the details
L680[12:01:36] <ShadowKatStudios> i7 3537
2.0 - 2.5Ghz, 8GB RAM, GeForce 720M, 1TB HDD (which, for some odd
reason (aka W8 standard) is divided into two partitions)
L681[12:02:42] <istasi> not shabby at all
^^
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L683[12:03:26] <ShadowKatStudios> This
computer is borrowed, however (yet not blue :( )
L684[12:03:50] <ShadowKatStudios> My
desktop is far less nice. My laptop even more far less nice.
L685[12:05:10] <ShadowKatStudios>
Pentiums, and even older processors to avoid the pentiums.
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L689[12:11:33] <istasi> hi josh
L690[12:11:50] <JoshTheEnder> Hi
L691[12:11:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Hai
JTE
L692[12:12:16] <JoshTheEnder> Hai
L693[12:14:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Anything
interesting happening?
L694[12:15:24] <JoshTheEnder> Not at the
moment, sitting in a park eating a baguette
L695[12:16:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Are
those those breadstick things?
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L697[12:17:38] <JoshTheEnder> Yes? I think
so
L698[12:17:46] <ShadowKatStudios>
Cool.
L699[12:17:56] <ShadowKatStudios> I tend
to think of breadstick-like things as weapons
L700[12:18:22] <ShadowKatStudios>
BASEMENT\nWARNING:\nWinged Pigs
L701[12:18:35] <JoshTheEnder> ?
L702[12:19:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Reading
a comic.
L703[12:19:21] <JoshTheEnder> Ahh
L704[12:21:10] <JoshTheEnder> I think I'll
finish up chapter4.2 so I can release it when I get home
L705[12:21:22] <ShadowKatStudios>
Cool.
L706[12:21:45] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
trying to come up with a character.
L707[12:21:59] <JoshTheEnder> What
for?
L708[12:22:39] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L709[12:22:41] <^v> Ping reply from
JoshTheEnder 1.77s
L710[12:22:46] <JoshTheEnder> Wow
L711[12:22:48] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L712[12:22:49] <^v> Ping reply from
JoshTheEnder 0.52s
L713[12:22:51] <ShadowKatStudios> That
will remain a mystery until I reveal it. Or I get bored and then
reveal it. Either way.
L714[12:22:54] <JoshTheEnder> Better
L715[12:22:54] <ShadowKatStudios> .p
L716[12:22:57] <^v> Ping reply from
ShadowKatStudios 2.33s
L717[12:22:58] <JoshTheEnder> Lol
L718[12:23:05] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L719[12:23:06] <^v> Ping reply from
JoshTheEnder 0.49s
L720[12:23:08] <istasi> :O
L721[12:23:10] <JoshTheEnder> Meh
L722[12:23:11] <istasi> .p
L723[12:23:12] <^v> Ping reply from istasi
0.3s
L724[12:23:21] <JoshTheEnder> Not bad for
mobile
L726[12:26:39] <JoshTheEnder> Lol
L727[12:27:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I would
totally watch that.
L728[12:27:04] <Oddstr13> do i have to use
local in programs. in order to not clutter the global
namespace?
L729[12:27:39] <JoshTheEnder> Also
spoiler: Protocol 2471
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L731[12:28:13] <JoshTheEnder> Oddstr13,
using local makes it faster since it doesn't have to search the
global namespace
L732[12:28:15] <ShadowKatStudios> You
don't /have to/ , but it's cleaner if you do.
L733[12:28:50] <Oddstr13> if i don't use
local in a program, will it persist when the program has exited, as
in cc?
L734[12:29:04] <JoshTheEnder> I think so.
Yes
L735[12:29:12] <Oddstr13> blah
L736[12:29:19] <Oddstr13> local it is
then
L737[12:29:27] <JoshTheEnder> Never really
tried it so idk
L738[12:30:56] <Oddstr13> lol, i guess i
have to handle ^C myself
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L740[12:36:09] <ShadowKatStudios> So <
1% of the world has natural red hair.
L742[12:37:54] <Sangar> Oddstr13, each
program gets its own local env, so not explicitly localing vars
isn't that bad (and wont stay around unless you explicitly to
_G.blah = ), but localing is better style nonetheless ;)
L743[12:39:00] <JoshTheEnder> Ohai
Sangar
L744[12:39:06] <Sangar> hey Josh
L745[12:39:35] <Oddstr13> Sangar: good,
then i can do if require then require stuff :P
L746[12:40:38] <ShadowKatStudios>
EnderBot2, heartbeat
L747[12:40:39] *
EnderBot2 taps out a four-beat rhythm...
L748[12:41:54] <JoshTheEnder> Heheh
L749[12:45:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I wish I
could draw better, I really want to sketch out this character but I
can't draw for shit.
L750[12:45:13] <JoshTheEnder> 2/
L751[12:45:19] <JoshTheEnder> :/ *
L752[12:46:57] <ShadowKatStudios> (It may
also be because I want to put this drawing on my wall, s- no,
spoilers.
L754[12:50:30] <asie> why me?
L756[12:50:49] <Sangar> you had some
interest in that too, iirc? if not disregard.
L757[12:51:03] <asie> i did
L758[12:51:05] <asie> for pocket
computers
L759[12:51:06] <Oddstr13> hm... /me goes
to peek at the term api
L760[12:51:16] <asie> good,good,
Sangar
L761[12:51:20] <asie> this should be
good
L762[12:51:58] <Sangar> great :)
L763[12:52:52] <Oddstr13> whoa, the cursor
is implemented in the term api compleetly?
L764[12:53:02] <Sangar> Oddstr13,
yes
L765[12:53:18] <Oddstr13> fair enough i
guess
L766[12:53:35] <Oddstr13> guess i'll have
to keep track of that myself then :P
L767[12:55:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Looks
like I'm off.
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L770[12:58:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
baaack :D
L771[12:59:03] <istasi> you're amazingly
fast at sleeping
L772[12:59:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Indeed,
blindingly so.
L773[12:59:53] <ShadowKatStudios> So fast
even I didn't see it.
L774[13:01:04] <ShadowKatStudios> (Then
again, me not seeing something is nothing new, I'm too spaced out
to be observant)
L775[13:04:42] <vifino> wat da fuq is
"besh"
L776[13:04:55] <istasi> schhh
L777[13:04:55] <vifino> if that isnt bash,
i need to rek someone
L778[13:04:59] <ShadowKatStudios> better
shell
L779[13:05:00] <JoshTheEnder> Well, 4.2 is
done for the most part, doing bits on 4.3 now
L780[13:05:23] <Oddstr13> filename
tabcomplete? plz? :P
L781[13:05:30] <vifino> yus pls
L782[13:05:37] <vifino> Oddstr13:
hai
L783[13:05:39] <vifino> also
L784[13:05:51] <vifino> Someone needs to
write qemu for oc
L785[13:05:52] <vifino> :3
L786[13:06:13] <Oddstr13> lol
L787[13:06:21] <vifino> Howto get
oppm
L788[13:06:23] <vifino> ?
L789[13:06:29] <ShadowKatStudios> So as it
turns out, most of my favourite anime is made by the same people.
Haruhi, Kanon, CLANNAD...
L790[13:06:45] <JoshTheEnder> vifino, loot
disk or wget
L791[13:06:51] <vifino> JoshTheEnder: wget
pls
L792[13:06:57] <JoshTheEnder> Right, back
to work
L793[13:07:04] <vifino> also
L794[13:07:10] <JoshTheEnder> vifino ask
vex
L795[13:07:10] <Oddstr13> i vote for wget
._. cause exploring kinda kills the server :P
L796[13:07:11] <vifino> multi monitor
pls
L797[13:07:31] <JoshTheEnder> I don't do
oppm, vex does
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L799[13:07:58] <ShadowKatStudios> If
silcom ever gets to a working state, I'm gonna have it support a
terminal per monitor.
L800[13:09:36] <vifino> EnderOnTheJob: I
gots oppm!
L801[13:09:37] <vifino> yay
L802[13:13:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Is it
bad that I've started categorizing people at school based on anime
character types?
L803[13:13:22] <vifino> Why cant I use
multi monitors?
L804[13:13:34] <vifino> Like, one
computer, multiple shells
L805[13:13:57] <Oddstr13> vifino: cause
you havn't implemented it yet?
L806[13:14:02] <vifino> q_q
L807[13:14:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Lack of
multitasking, perhaps?
L808[13:14:34] <vifino> aw
L809[13:15:13] <vifino> Oddstr13: remind
me to upgrade my server
L810[13:15:42] <vifino> one t3 cpu isnt
good enough for my "must-have"-ism
L811[13:17:02] <ShadowKatStudios> 4
usually does the job for me.
L812[13:17:28] <vifino> hehe
L813[13:17:35] *
vifino crafts MOAR cpu's
L814[13:18:10] <ShadowKatStudios> >
'Unwanted glasses plot'
L815[13:18:45] <ShadowKatStudios> How
would you not want glasses (well, perhaps that they're fragile
but...)
L816[13:19:26] <vifino> "useradd
vifino" OP
L817[13:19:29] <Oddstr13> attempt to index
upvalue? -.-'
L818[13:20:30] <vifino> ShadowKatStudios:
Should I add more gpu's?
L819[13:20:48] <robhol> ShadowKatStudios:
depends :p what kind of categorization?
L820[13:20:49] <Oddstr13> wait what
L821[13:20:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Depends
how many framebuffers you want to keep
L822[13:21:12] <vifino> k
L823[13:22:30] <ShadowKatStudios> robhol:
Well, I've managed to categorize girls mostly (hey, there's more
types for girls, K?), and there's a possible axe-crazy Yandere and
one that acts like Yuki Nagato.
L824[13:23:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Besides,
guy's anime character types don't map to people in Australia very
well.
L825[13:23:42] <robhol> ShadowKatStudios:
I'm completely urayamashii-ing you :<
L826[13:24:10] *
ShadowKatStudios looks the term up
L827[13:24:25] <robhol> (it's actually an
adjective)
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L830[13:25:46] <Cruor> no
L831[13:25:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Hehe,
which in particular are you urayamashii of?
L832[13:26:52] <Kilobyte> o/
L833[13:26:59] <ShadowKatStudios> \o
L834[13:28:18] *
ShadowKatStudios adds this word to his file
L835[13:30:46] <ShadowKatStudios> robhol,
Hehe, which in particular are you urayamashii of? I'd also like to
note that the yandere is in my woodwork class and she seems to
enjoy using saws and chisels a little too much :P
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L839[13:38:06] <Cruor> so apparantly Odd
sux at Lua
L840[13:38:09] <Cruor> but besides
that
L841[13:38:13] <Cruor> OC doesnt do shiz
without the OS
L842[13:38:15] <Cruor> i love it o_p
L843[13:39:08] <ShadowKatStudios> OC is
awesome
L844[13:39:15] <ShadowKatStudios> best mod
ever
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L847[13:41:23] <Cruor> meeeh
L848[13:41:42] <Cruor> but atleast you can
make proper OSes with it <_>
L849[13:42:47] <ShadowKatStudios> None of
those shiz over-the-top-of-the-shell things you find in
Computercraft, eh?
L850[13:43:19] <Cruor> yes
L851[13:43:34] <robhol> lol
ShadowKatStudios
L852[13:43:58] <Cruor> wtf OC
L853[13:44:01] <Cruor> how do you
even
L854[13:44:06] <Cruor> it supports
æå
L855[13:44:08] <Cruor> but not ø
L856[13:44:13] <Cruor> what the actuall
****
L857[13:44:18] <robhol> oh right,
minecraft. I should get to mining ridiculous amounts of stuff to
get started with OC :l
L858[13:44:44] <ShadowKatStudios> I
usually have 4 quarries before I start OC.
L859[13:45:02] <robhol> There's still no
emulator or something you can play with without starting up
slowcraft and slowly crafting everything, is there?
L860[13:45:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nope.
L861[13:45:44] <ShadowKatStudios> You
could probably emulate it in pure Lua though, with the vanilla
interpreter
L862[13:46:18] <Kilobyte> I am working on
an emulator
L863[13:46:26] <robhol> no, I mean
something like the ones for CC
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L865[13:46:41] <robhol> oh. cool
L866[13:47:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I wonder
how hard it would be to emulate components using vanilla
Lua...
L867[13:47:39] <Cruor> not really hard
>_<
L868[13:48:18] <Kilobyte> it's still early
dev
L869[13:48:19] <Kilobyte> nah, shouldnt be
hard at all
L870[13:48:20] <Kilobyte> just make the
gpu component use curses
L871[13:48:45] <ShadowKatStudios> I was
thinking ANSI escape codes, buy curses would be easier
L872[13:48:50] <Kilobyte> and you are
set
L873[13:49:35] <Cruor> ansi is borin
:<
L874[13:49:38] <Kilobyte> well, curses is
just a wrapper around ANSI escapes
L875[13:51:38] <Kilobyte> tbh, such an
"emulator" in lua would be a good bridge until mine is
ready
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L877[13:52:27] <Cruor> meh, i guess OC is
worth using just for control chars and not being filled to the brim
with bs apis
L878[13:53:32] <Sangar> Cruor, have a look
at the dev builds, ø works there (and pretty much anything else),
since it uses unifont for rendering chars
L879[13:54:22] <Cruor> so dev versions
supports unicode instead of the silly file thing?
L880[13:54:26] <Cruor> the char page
thing
L881[13:54:31] <Sangar> yes
L882[13:54:37] <Sangar> will be in
1.3.2
L883[13:54:39] <Cruor> sounds good to me
:p
L885[13:55:21] <Cruor> now if i can get
Oddstr to make this thing run Python q_q
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L887[13:56:16] <ShadowKatStudios>
Damnit
L888[13:56:24] ⇦
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server)
L889[13:56:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: will
look at it once i'm on pc (atm on phone)
L890[13:57:01] <Sangar> ah, k
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L892[13:58:44] <Cruor> i found my favorite
OC feature
L893[13:58:50] <Cruor> floppies make sound
XD
L894[13:58:58] <Oddstr13> ^
L895[13:59:02] <Cruor> excuse me while i
go and make music
L896[13:59:54] <ShadowKatStudios> IIRC the
sound is recorded from an Amiga
L897[14:00:26] ***
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L898[14:00:59] <ShadowKatStudios> That
reminds me, Sangar, I have a HDD that makes a noticeable sound when
it switches tracks, should I bother recording it? IMHO the HDD
sounds are quite boring.
L899[14:01:26] <Cruor> i want to marry
OC
L900[14:01:27] <Cruor> brb
L901[14:01:33] <Cruor> allready made the
church
L902[14:01:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Is it
the church of the sheep?
L903[14:02:29] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios,
hmm, if you can record it with decent quality, some variants would
be nice, sure
L904[14:02:32] ***
alekso56 is now known as alekso56_off
L905[14:03:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool,
will do once I get my desktop out of storage
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L907[14:04:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
gonna miss that when the world starts using SSDs. There'll be no
cool noises from the drives any more :(
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L909[14:07:29] <Sangar> i'm sure there'll
be some usb thinger that makes hdd noises on disk activity if there
isn't already :P
L910[14:07:54] <Cruor> Sangar: thanks for
implementing something as simple as cursor blinking Lua side
L911[14:08:28] <Cruor> OC looks worthwhile
enough to code for >_<
L912[14:08:36] <Sangar> :P
L913[14:09:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I wonder
if I could tune computer fans to play notes...
L914[14:10:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Also,
can we get computer.hcf() ?
L915[14:10:32] <Sangar> bonus points: make
them play notes by blowing bottles
L916[14:11:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
Çhallenge accepted. Also, blinking lights.
L917[14:11:22] <Sangar> hm, crash on
demand?
L918[14:11:58] <Sangar> maybe if i get
bored >_>
L919[14:12:02] <ShadowKatStudios> halt and
catch fire
L920[14:12:19] <Kilobyte> Sangar: can i
have the link again?
L922[14:12:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Returns
with arguments, then crashes the computer and sets the top of it on
fire.
L923[14:12:39] <Cruor> Kilobyte: why didnt
you tell me that OC was sane
L924[14:12:47] <Cruor> you were busy
talking about other random bs i didnt care about Q_Q
L925[14:13:05] <Kilobyte> probably because
i am too used to it being sane
L926[14:13:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Sane?
/SANE/ ? I agree.
L927[14:15:15] <Sangar> ShadowKatStudios,
when/if i look into stuff like fans (which i never might,
considering i don't find that as... interesting as say, adding
usable stuff :P) maybe. until then, write an addon card that does
that :>
L928[14:15:42] <Cruor> now excuse me while
i set up one of these computers in SP >_<
L929[14:15:52] <Sangar> good luck!
L930[14:16:06] <Kilobyte> Sangar: argh
that inconsistency
L931[14:16:09] <Kilobyte> it hurts
L932[14:16:10] <Kilobyte> boolean
select(stack: ItemStack)
L933[14:16:17] <Kilobyte> select(stack:
ItemStack): Boolean please
L934[14:16:27] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
beginning to wonder if I'm the insane one and the world makes
sense...
L935[14:16:29] <Cruor> Kilobyte: i want to
marry you
L936[14:16:33] <Sangar> Kilobyte, meh,
pseudocode :P
L937[14:16:59] <Sangar> but if that's the
only nitpick that's good ;)
L938[14:17:10] <Kilobyte> only one i've
seen so far
L939[14:17:12] *
ShadowKatStudios summons doves with a spell
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L941[14:19:12] <Kilobyte> Sangar: maybe
indicate how disassemble() indicates that it doesn't know what to
do more clearly?
L942[14:19:27] <Cruor> ... im amazed how
useless all attempts at trying to convert me to OC has been
L943[14:19:32] <Kilobyte> since 2 possible
things. null or Object[0]
L944[14:19:35] <Sangar> Kilobyte, it
returns null
L945[14:19:36] <Cruor> they were way to
busy showing off bs
L946[14:19:38] <Sangar> yeah
L947[14:19:40] <Cruor> instead of the Lua
side <_<
L948[14:19:41] <Sangar> will add a
note
L949[14:20:14] <Kilobyte> Sangar: maybe
add a complexity factor?
L950[14:20:27] <Kilobyte> as in: multiply
compexity with x
L951[14:20:36] <Sangar> hmm, oh, for stuff
like the halftiered ram? yes.
L952[14:20:56] <Sangar> then again, that
doesn't even need it.
L953[14:20:59] <Kilobyte> no, i mean, that
some recipes double total complexity
L954[14:21:05] <Sangar> hmhm
L955[14:21:23] <Sangar> maybe just an
optional complexity computing callback?
L956[14:21:41] ***
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L957[14:21:42] <Sangar> that's about as
flexible as it gets
L958[14:22:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Cruor,
you have influence. You must convert the rest of #computercraft ,
as the rest of us have failed. Good luck.
L959[14:22:29] <Cruor> neh
L960[14:22:51] <Cruor> why cant they just
use what they want q_q
L961[14:22:55] <Cruor> CC is a nice
learning tool
L962[14:23:30] <ShadowKatStudios> :p
L963[14:24:05] <Kilobyte> Sangar: that
would work
L964[14:24:27] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
wondering if i should just make that another return value from
`validate`
L965[14:24:41] <Kilobyte> yeah, was
thinking same if thats doable
L966[14:24:46] <Sangar> cool
L967[14:24:57] <Kilobyte> would make
sense, since they are both pretty much always called at same
time
L968[14:25:02] <Sangar> yep
L969[14:25:16] <ShadowKatStudios> CC is
what it is, and if people like that, sure. However, I dislike
ignorance of the alternatives (and hence those people that swear by
microsoft products)
L970[14:25:36] <Sangar> Kilobyte, oh,
right, it needs a max complexity!
L971[14:25:39] *
Sangar adds that, too
L972[14:25:42] <Cruor> ShadowKatStudios: i
didnt start using OC because i didnt see anything sane in it
>_<
L973[14:25:45] <Vexatos> But SKS:
Microsoft is great D:
L974[14:25:52] <Vexatos>
</sarcasm>
L975[14:25:54] <Kilobyte> yes they
are...
L976[14:25:57] <Kilobyte> at fucking
things up
L977[14:26:02] *
ShadowKatStudios hi- nope,
L978[14:26:16] <ShadowKatStudios> So... It
was insane?
L979[14:26:17] <Kilobyte> just look at any
of their products
L980[14:26:47] <ShadowKatStudios>
Kilobyte: Windows 8 is a great example, also any Office after
2003
L981[14:26:57] <Kilobyte> yup
L982[14:27:17] *
Kilobyte points at their server side applications
L983[14:27:25] <Kilobyte> like IIS or
exchange
L984[14:27:26] *
ShadowKatStudios still uses his XP copy of word on his Windows
systems, including the Windows 8 one
L985[14:27:42] <Kilobyte> we only own word
97
L986[14:27:54] <ShadowKatStudios> I can't
believe people use Windows as a server OS.
L987[14:27:58] <Cruor> how do i computer
Q_Q
L988[14:28:06] <Kilobyte> which has a 16
bit installer (aka doesn't work on 64 bit)
L989[14:28:08] <Cruor> ShadowKatStudios: i
work with IT peeps
L990[14:28:08] <Vexatos> SKS: Wait
L991[14:28:10] <Vexatos> they do?
L992[14:28:12] <Vexatos> WHAT
L993[14:28:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Also,
Windows server has a desktop o.O
L994[14:28:14] <Cruor> and they have no
problem with Windows as server
L995[14:28:18] <Cruor> they are like
L996[14:28:19] <Vexatos> What the
fudge
L997[14:28:22] <Cruor> "its good
shiz, has gui"
L998[14:28:23] <Vexatos> Such hardware
waste
L999[14:28:32] <Vexatos> How can one waste
so much hardware
L1000[14:28:35] <Cruor> ^
L1001[14:28:53] <Kilobyte> especially
since winderps gui is everything but lightweight
L1002[14:29:08] <Vexatos> Indeed
L1003[14:29:08] <Sangar> to be fair, the
new win servers come without gui (per default anyway, afaik)
:P
L1004[14:29:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Yeah,
I got a chucked out server from my school, Windows 2000, and it had
damn good hardware for the time, I felt sorry for it.
L1005[14:29:16] <Vexatos> <--Starts up
laptop, takes 10 mintutes
L1006[14:29:17] <Cruor> should i put up a
t1 computer or t3 computer? >_<
L1007[14:29:18] <Vexatos> *minutes
L1008[14:29:26] <Vexatos> Cruor: T2 or
T3
L1009[14:29:30] <Kilobyte> Sangar: fun
fact, flood_router26 can reboot a winderps server
L1010[14:29:32] <Vexatos> Never T1,
that's useless
L1011[14:29:41] <Kilobyte> at also
freezes an xp
L1012[14:29:44] <ShadowKatStudios> <--
Starts laptop from 1999, Linux, takes 30sec
L1013[14:29:48] <Sangar> <_<
L1014[14:29:59] <Kilobyte> and kills the
network of osx
L1015[14:30:00] <Vexatos> SKS: Yep,
that's why I linux
L1016[14:30:09] <Vexatos> Once my damn
Graphics Card arrives D:<
L1017[14:30:14] <Cruor> ill just use a T3
then >_<
L1018[14:30:16] <Vexatos> (Waiting for it
for half a month now)
L1019[14:30:30] <Cruor> ill pretend i
know wtf im doing
L1020[14:30:37] <ShadowKatStudios> I got
Linux running on a computer that's older than me. I feel like a
god.
L1021[14:30:58] <Vexatos> Lunix
L1022[14:31:00] <Vexatos> :3
L1023[14:31:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Lua +
Unix = Lunix
L1024[14:31:18] <ShadowKatStudios>
Hmmmmm...
L1025[14:31:33] <Cruor> is there a Cruor
proof guide to this stuff
L1026[14:31:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Only
fireproof
L1028[14:32:15] <Vexatos> Sangar: So
outdated
L1029[14:32:17] <Vexatos> please
don't
L1030[14:32:28] <Vexatos> Those
images
L1031[14:32:29] <Sangar> Vexatos, screw
you, update it then :P
L1032[14:32:30] <Vexatos> So old
L1033[14:32:37] <Vexatos> I will
L1034[14:32:40] <Vexatos> Once summer
break starts
L1035[14:32:51] *
ShadowKatStudios hits Sangar with a copy if LoTR
L1036[14:33:06] <Sangar> what i do to
deserve that?
L1037[14:33:07] <ShadowKatStudios>
s/if/of
L1038[14:33:07] *
SuperBot <ShadowKatStudios> hits Sangar with a copy of
LoTR
L1039[14:33:19] <Cruor> why is everything
besides my disk drives blue q_q
L1040[14:33:21] *
Cruor dies
L1041[14:33:26] <ShadowKatStudios>
Outdatedness
L1042[14:33:30] <ShadowKatStudios>
:P
L1043[14:33:31] <Sangar> pft
L1044[14:33:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
work on updating it before summer.
L1045[14:33:57] <Sangar> Cruor, also, for
testing get a creative tier case so you don't have to worry about
power :P
L1046[14:34:05] <Cruor> oh
L1047[14:34:06] <Cruor> >_<
L1048[14:34:16] <Cruor> is that like, t3
that doesnt use power?
L1049[14:34:25] <ShadowKatStudios>
Creative sseeeerrrrvvveeerrr :D Are they a thing yet?
L1050[14:34:28] <Sangar> t3+ and produces
power
L1051[14:34:37] <Cruor> i dont like this
Q_Q
L1052[14:34:39] <Sangar>
ShadowKatStudios, i'm still debating internally about that :P
L1053[14:34:44] <Cruor> now i have blue,
gray and purple Q_Q
L1054[14:34:52] <Sangar> Cruor, you can
dye them
L1055[14:34:59] <Cruor> dear god
L1056[14:35:04] <ShadowKatStudios> We
have creative cases, why not 4x density?
L1057[14:35:06] <Cruor> why does this mod
do stuff i want it to XD
L1058[14:35:45] <Cruor> sir Sangar sir, i
cant recolor my disk drives q_q
L1059[14:36:01] <Sangar> Cruor, true
>_>
L1060[14:36:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Cruor,
it does stuff you want because it's open-source.
L1061[14:36:12] <Cruor> ... imma just dye
everything to the disk drive color XD
L1062[14:37:00] <Cruor> *cough* imma make
Odds computer pink *cough*
L1063[14:37:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Very
manly.
L1064[14:37:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
very mature.
L1065[14:37:35] <Cruor> this is the worst
pink ever
L1066[14:37:39] <Cruor> it actually looks
good <_<
L1067[14:37:56] <Cruor> and does not use
my pink .-.
L1068[14:38:19] <Sangar>
ShadowKatStudios, thank you. so much. i was so stuck on the rack
itself... i'll just make a creative *server* and everything is
great! -.- way too obvious.
L1069[14:38:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Silly
:P
L1070[14:38:53] <Sangar> it happens
:P
L1071[14:38:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Then I
can have 4 GPUs if I so desire :D
L1072[14:39:48] <ShadowKatStudios> And
like... Hey, are external drive bays gonna be a thing or am I
working with network storage?
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L1074[14:41:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm,
if I have a monolithic kernel, it'd be super easy to integrate
network stirage...
L1075[14:41:24] <ShadowKatStudios>
s/sti/sto
L1076[14:41:24] <SuperBot>
<ShadowKatStudios> Hmm, if I have a monolithic kernel, it'd
be super easy to integrate network storage...
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L1079[14:41:56] <Sangar>
ShadowKatStudios, maybe, maybe not, go network, it's cooler anyway
:P
L1080[14:42:15] <Sangar> Cruor, yep. slap
in openos disk and you're good.
L1081[14:42:22] <Kilobyte> Sangar: hmm...
i might actually build against the oc jar
L1082[14:42:28] <Kilobyte> to use the
runtime stuff
L1083[14:42:38] <Sangar> Kilobyte, k.
just don't hit me when i refactor stuff :P
L1085[14:42:40] <Kilobyte> for VOC
L1086[14:42:44] <Cruor> imma turn it on
and off
L1087[14:42:48] <Cruor> thank you random
tip .-.
L1088[14:42:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
thinking that making component.invoke cope with networks would make
everything else easier.
L1089[14:42:58] <Kilobyte> Sangar: well,
didn't you consider to extract the runtime?
L1090[14:43:19] <Kilobyte> also, i will
download the stuff from the jenkins and i'll fix the version
number
L1091[14:43:27] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yes,
but... that may take some time till i get around to that.
L1092[14:43:29] <Sangar> k
L1093[14:43:31] <Kilobyte> fix as in
don't chage
L1094[14:44:33] <Kilobyte> Sangar: old
builds don't get removed, right?
L1095[14:44:50] <Sangar> i don't think
so, no
L1096[14:45:06] <Kilobyte> i think i
should work on a launcher next
L1097[14:47:16] <Cruor> so this init.lua
thing is CCs startup? >_<
L1098[14:47:37] <Kilobyte> Cruor: no, its
rather ccs bios.lua
L1099[14:47:48] <Cruor> oh daymn
.-.
L1100[14:47:54] <Kilobyte> startup is
autorun.lua
L1101[14:48:00] <Kilobyte> on any drive
you wan
L1102[14:48:01] <Kilobyte> t
L1103[14:48:04] <Cruor> okay :o
L1104[14:48:21] <Kilobyte> gets executed
when the drive gets mounted (given its enabled)
L1105[14:51:10] ***
vifino|away is now known as vifino
L1106[14:53:09] <Cruor> where do i
externaly edit the files >_<
L1107[14:53:40] <ShadowKatStudios>
/saves/save/opencomputers/driveaddress/file
L1108[14:53:53] <Sangar> ^ also consider
setting bufferChanges = false in the config if you do that
L1109[14:54:04] <Cruor> oh... it didnt
generate the folder yet
L1110[14:54:11] <Cruor> explains why i
didnt find it >_<
L1111[14:54:51] <Kilobyte> Cruor: also,
you need to take out or replug the drive for the changes to take
effect
L1112[14:55:05] <Kilobyte> because FS is
buffered (and only gets flushed when world saves)
L1113[14:55:09] <Cruor> dear god, efforts
D:
L1114[14:55:14] <Kilobyte> that can be
disabled in config though
L1115[14:55:26] <Cruor> i assume thats
the thing Sangar mentioned
L1116[14:55:47] <Sangar> yes
L1118[14:55:57] *
vifino cuddles oc
L1119[14:55:57] <Kilobyte> look at drive
tooltip
L1120[14:56:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Taking
out the HDD works?
L1121[14:56:25] <Kilobyte> Cruor: thats
the first 3 chars of the drive UUID
L1122[14:56:40] *
vifino hugs Sangar
L1123[14:57:08] <Sangar>
ShadowKatStudios, yes, that also forces a save, by necessity,
because the component object gets killed of.
L1124[14:57:17] *
Kilobyte is considering if he should use .tar.xz (needs library) or
.zip for updates
L1125[14:57:23] *
Kilobyte thinks .tar.xz
L1126[14:57:24] <Sangar> $tip vifino
10
L1127[14:57:24] <^vDoge> Sangar, Sent Ɖ10
to vifino
L1128[14:57:34] <vifino> Also, can i
interface with cc peripherals?
L1129[14:57:39] <vifino> Sangar:
<3
L1130[14:57:48] *
ShadowKatStudios tips vifino over
L1131[14:57:53] <vifino> whaaaa
L1132[14:57:55] *
vifino falls
L1133[14:57:59] <Sangar> vifino, if you
have opencomponents installed, yes, for the most part.
L1134[14:58:05] <vifino> \o/
L1135[14:58:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Giving
tips is nice, right?
L1136[14:58:26] <Kilobyte> it gives you
money... :P
L1137[14:59:04] <Kilobyte> $bal
L1138[14:59:04] <^vDoge> Kilobyte,
Ɖ290
L1139[14:59:12] <ShadowKatStudios>
$bal
L1140[14:59:12] <^vDoge>
ShadowKatStudios, Ɖ600
L1141[14:59:14] <Kilobyte> $help
L1142[14:59:14] <^vDoge> Kilobyte,
commands: help tip send balance withdraw deposit conv
L1143[14:59:20] <Kilobyte> $conv
L1144[14:59:20] <^vDoge> Kilobyte,
Invalid number
L1145[14:59:22] <vifino> $bal
L1146[14:59:22] <^vDoge> vifino,
Ɖ529
L1147[14:59:25] <Kilobyte> $conv
290
L1148[14:59:25] <^vDoge> Kilobyte, Ɖ290 =
$0.0648 £0.038
L1149[14:59:28] <vifino>
ShadowKatStudios: Ha!
L1150[14:59:40] <ShadowKatStudios> $conv
600
L1151[14:59:40] <^vDoge>
ShadowKatStudios, Ɖ600 = $0.134 £0.0786
L1152[14:59:44] <vifino> I have next to
the same ammount as you!
L1153[14:59:47] <vifino> >:D
L1154[14:59:49] <Kilobyte> .tell v^ add €
to $bal please
L1155[14:59:49] <^v> Kilobyte, Message
queued.
L1156[14:59:55] <vifino> ^
L1157[15:00:02] <ShadowKatStudios>
$
L1158[15:00:05] <Cruor> $bal
L1159[15:00:05] <^vDoge> Cruor,
Ɖ1350
L1160[15:00:06] <Cruor> boring
L1161[15:00:08] <vifino> wat
L1162[15:00:16] <ShadowKatStudios>
how
L1163[15:00:17] <vifino> Cruor has
1K?
L1164[15:00:19] <vifino>
ahwbfhufbsrgd
L1165[15:00:24] <gamax92> $bal v^
L1166[15:00:24] <^vDoge> gamax92,
Ɖ0
L1167[15:00:28] <gamax92> wat
L1168[15:00:30] <vifino> gg gamax92
L1169[15:00:35]
⇨ Joins: justastranger
(justastran@b1f-005.static.bnc4free.com)
L1170[15:00:37] <Cruor> $conv 1350
L1171[15:00:37] <^vDoge> Cruor, Ɖ1350 =
$0.3016 £0.1769
L1172[15:00:39] <Kilobyte> $bal v^
L1173[15:00:39] <^vDoge> Kilobyte,
Ɖ0
L1174[15:00:42] <ShadowKatStudios> $conv
1350
L1175[15:00:43] <^vDoge>
ShadowKatStudios, Ɖ1350 = $0.3016 £0.1769
L1176[15:00:43] <Cruor> im rich yo
L1177[15:00:49] <Kilobyte> lal bug
L1178[15:00:56] <ShadowKatStudios> 30
cents!
L1179[15:01:16] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
13 cents :D
L1180[15:02:01] <ShadowKatStudios> $bal
Cruor
L1181[15:02:01] <^vDoge>
ShadowKatStudios, Ɖ1350
L1182[15:02:01] <Cruor> uhm
L1183[15:02:06] <Cruor> note to self:
saves state on MC restart
L1184[15:02:11] <Cruor> okay Q_Q
L1185[15:02:12] <gamax92> Sangar: Sorry
for not really looking at the WeakTable's, dinner happened and then
running with dog for 2 hours happened
L1186[15:02:22] <ShadowKatStudios> $bal
^vDoge
L1187[15:02:22] <^vDoge>
ShadowKatStudios, Ɖ0
L1188[15:02:59] <Sangar> gamax92, haha,
np. as long as it doesn't crash it's better than before :P
L1189[15:03:06] <ds84182> ewwdog
L1190[15:03:08] *
ds84182 baps gamax92
L1191[15:03:13] <gamax92> ds84182:
what?
L1192[15:04:11] *
ShadowKatStudios dislikes dogs
L1193[15:04:31] *
ShadowKatStudios is a cat person, incase you couldn't
tell
L1194[15:05:05] *
ShadowKatStudios begins hitting the fourth wall with a thick copy
of LoTR
L1195[15:05:07] <vifino> Sangar: Is there
a git cmd in oc?
L1196[15:05:10] <gamax92> Well i also
dislike dogs
L1197[15:05:12] <vifino> pls maek
L1198[15:05:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Gopher
wrote a git downloader IIRC
L1199[15:05:36] <gamax92> but then they
were like "come run with us"
L1200[15:06:48] <Cruor> i forgot what i
was supposed to do with this computer >_<
L1201[15:07:04]
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(uid32492@id-32492.uxbridge.irccloud.com)
L1202[15:07:04] <gamax92> Cruor: try to
take over the world?
L1203[15:07:14] <Cruor> oh
L1204[15:07:16] <Cruor> right
L1206[15:07:38]
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L1207[15:07:54] *
Sangar slaps Vexatos
L1208[15:07:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Hello
Eevv
L1210[15:08:04] <ds84182> ohno.jpeg
L1211[15:08:04] <Vexatos> Hey
L1212[15:08:04] <Cruor> holy cow
L1213[15:08:08] <Cruor> i am good at this
Lua stuff
L1214[15:08:08] <Vexatos>
WhathaveIdoneSangar
L1215[15:08:17] ***
alekso56_off is now known as alekso56
L1216[15:08:18] <Sangar> Vexatos, oppm
borked
L1217[15:08:23] <Vexatos>
NOOOOOOOOOOOOo
L1218[15:08:24] <Vexatos> Tell me
L1219[15:08:32] <Vexatos> Need to
fix
L1220[15:08:32] *
ds84182 gives Cruor an award for best acheivement in
technology
L1221[15:08:33] <Eevv> hi
L1222[15:08:34] <Sangar> read up
L1223[15:08:46] <Cruor> i would say this
is possible in CC
L1224[15:08:49] <Cruor> but it is on a
hdd
L1225[15:08:50] <Cruor> >_<
L1226[15:08:50] <Eevv> i have a
problem
L1227[15:09:01] <Eevv> why doesnt
term.clear() work?
L1228[15:09:08] *
ShadowKatStudios hits Vexatos over the head with a manual for
network hardware and software
L1229[15:09:12] <Eevv> or
term.setCursor(1,1)
L1230[15:09:21] <istasi> eevv, post the
script
L1231[15:09:24] <ds84182> Eevv, what
happens when you try those?
L1232[15:09:28] <Vexatos> vifno: Anything
below that error?
L1233[15:09:32] <Vexatos> vidino *
L1234[15:09:37] <Vexatos> vifino *
L1235[15:09:39] <Vexatos>
>___>
L1236[15:09:45] <vifino> Vexatos:
no
L1237[15:09:52] <vifino> just me masching
commands
L1238[15:09:55] <Eevv> "/tmp/test:1:
attempt to index global 'term' (a nil value)"
L1239[15:10:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Eevv,
Have you done term = require "term"
L1240[15:10:07] <Vexatos> Okay, that's
weird, let me see
L1241[15:10:13] <istasi> eevv, ask sks
says, require it
L1242[15:10:14] <Eevv> no i have
not
L1243[15:10:24] <Vexatos> I see
L1244[15:10:36] <Eevv> ok
L1245[15:10:38] <Vexatos> vifino: That's
a derp of Superminor
L1246[15:10:44] <vifino> .-.
L1247[15:10:48] *
ShadowKatStudios hands Eevv a copy of the Lua manual
L1248[15:10:51] <Vexatos> Not my fault,
but I'll add a nil check
L1249[15:10:53] <Vexatos> Thanks
L1250[15:10:57] <Eevv> i have a "
attempt to call global 'write' (a nil value')
L1251[15:11:01] <Eevv> i gues i do the
same?
L1252[15:11:02] <vifino> Vexatos:
ty
L1253[15:11:27] <vifino> pong: r u dere
or not?
L1254[15:11:29] <ShadowKatStudios> What
API are you trying to use there?
L1255[15:11:37] <Cruor> i have problems
writing hello world program, how am i op in #CC >_<
L1256[15:11:42] <Eevv> i gues i do the
same?
L1257[15:11:44] <Eevv> i have a "
attempt to call global 'write' (a nil value')
L1258[15:11:47] <Eevv> help
L1259[15:12:03] <ShadowKatStudios> What
/do/ you do in there, Cruor?
L1260[15:12:11] <Cruor> ban bad
guys
L1261[15:12:23] <Eevv> Guys
L1262[15:12:35] <Eevv> i have a problem
again
L1263[15:12:51] <Cruor> oh god
L1264[15:12:51] <Eevv> "/tmp/test:5:
attempt to call global 'write' (a nil value")
L1265[15:13:00] <Cruor> i found the hdd
folders, yay :p
L1266[15:13:10] <Eevv> yes its /mnt i
think
L1267[15:13:23] <Eevv> "/tmp/test:5:
attempt to call global 'write' (a nil value")
L1268[15:13:23] <Cruor> externaly
>_<
L1269[15:13:27] <Eevv> "/tmp/test:5:
attempt to call global 'write' (a nil value")
L1270[15:13:31] <Eevv> HUALP
L1271[15:13:40] <Cruor> function write()
end
L1272[15:13:41] <Cruor> i fixd it
L1273[15:14:14] <Eevv> god damn
L1274[15:14:20] <istasi> eevv, there's no
function called write ()
L1275[15:14:26] <Eevv> where is the
fucking manual
L1276[15:14:26] <istasi> what function
are you trying to call?
L1277[15:14:28] <istasi> term.write
?
L1278[15:14:33] <Eevv> i think?
L1279[15:14:44] <Eevv> i have a name =
io.read next to it
L1280[15:14:52] <Eevv> "name =
io.read()"
L1281[15:14:52] <istasi> what do you want
it to do
L1282[15:15:09] <Eevv> have the input
displayed next to the pre-writen text
L1283[15:15:19] <Eevv> in this case its
"Name: "
L1284[15:15:34]
⇦ Quits: ShadowKatStudios
(~sks@pa49-180-145-53.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) (Ping timeout: 186
seconds)
L1285[15:15:43] <istasi> doesn't it do
that without having to write though?
L1286[15:15:44] ***
alekso56 is now known as alekso56_off
L1287[15:15:45] <Vexatos> vifino: That's
weird...
L1288[15:15:52] <vifino> hmm?
L1289[15:15:52] <Vexatos> Could you
pastebin your oppm.cfg
L1290[15:15:59] <istasi> though, you can
do term.write(name)
L1291[15:16:01] <Vexatos> It's in
usr/etc
L1292[15:16:04] <Eevv> WHOEVER SAID
term.write (caps sensitive) IS RIGHT
L1293[15:16:04] <vifino> where da heck is
dst
L1294[15:16:06] <vifino> or
L1295[15:16:06] <vifino> k
L1296[15:16:40] <Vexatos> Also, did you
install oppm locally or did you run it from the dungeon loot
floppy
L1297[15:16:42] <vifino> Vexatos: isnt
there
L1298[15:16:50] <istasi> btw, how do i
get a folder thingy in openprograms ?
L1299[15:16:55] <vifino> I wgetted
oppm.lua
L1301[15:17:13] <Vexatos> vifino: That
explains it, you also needed to wget oppm.cfg xD
L1302[15:17:18] <vifino> .-.
L1303[15:17:49]
⇦ Quits: Eevv (webchat@th-186-47.splius.lt) (Quit: Web client
closed)
L1304[15:17:54] <Vexatos> Oh wait
L1305[15:18:02] <Vexatos> it is in
/etc/
L1306[15:18:05] <Vexatos> Not
/usr/etc
L1307[15:18:12] <Vexatos> Could you check
there, vifino?
L1308[15:18:19] <vifino> yes
L1309[15:18:28] <Sangar> Kilobyte, looks
good
L1310[15:18:33] <vifino> nope not
there
L1311[15:18:57] <Kilobyte> the file would
be a .tar.xz all binaries and libraries prob
L1312[15:19:00] <Sangar> Kilobyte, maybe
a 'prerelease' flag?
L1313[15:19:08] <Vexatos> vifino, that's
really weird
L1314[15:19:12] <Kilobyte> hmm that could
be useful
L1315[15:19:12] <vifino> Vexatos: Do i
need autorun?
L1316[15:19:15] <Vexatos> No
L1317[15:19:17] <Vexatos> It should have
created the file
L1318[15:19:21] <Vexatos> If it didn't
exist
L1319[15:19:50] <vifino> I wgetted it
now
L1320[15:19:50]
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timeout: 186 seconds)
L1321[15:19:59] <vifino> now it seems to
work
L1322[15:20:27] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
added
L1323[15:21:39] <Vexatos> vifino: It
did?
L1324[15:21:40] <Vexatos> Okay
L1325[15:21:43] <Vexatos> That's REALLY
weird
L1326[15:21:53] <Cruor> oh god
L1327[15:22:02] <Cruor> all the require
D:
L1328[15:22:10] <Vexatos> Sangar: Would
you mind looking at why line 159 could have returned nil? It seems
to be something in my readFromFile() function
L1329[15:22:24] <vifino> wat da fuq is
package "v"
L1330[15:22:57] <Vexatos> Do "oppm
info v"
L1331[15:22:59] <Vexatos> and check
:3
L1332[15:23:08] <Vexatos> I should make
oppm W
L1333[15:23:16] <Vexatos> oppm wtf an
alias+
L1334[15:23:43] <Sangar> Vexatos, uh,
only glancing at it, readonly root fs maybe?
L1335[15:24:06] <Vexatos> What do you
mean...
L1336[15:24:12] <Kilobyte> Cruor:
setmetatable(_ENV, {__call = function(t, k) return require(k)
end})
L1337[15:24:16] <Kilobyte> err
L1338[15:24:18] <Sangar> that it fails to
create/open the file because of that
L1339[15:24:28] <Kilobyte>
setmetatable(_ENV, {__index = function(t, k) return require(k)
end}) i meant
L1340[15:24:35] <Cruor> is there no
unicode.match? o_O
L1341[15:24:51] <Vexatos> Sangar: But
/etc should not be readonly
L1342[15:24:56] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
^
L1343[15:25:08] <istasi> is if he boots
from disk
L1344[15:25:10] <Kilobyte> Vexatos:
unless its a live disk
L1345[15:25:11] <istasi> and wgets into
/tmp
L1346[15:25:11] <Sangar> Vexatos, well,
if there's nothing mounted there it sorta is
L1347[15:25:13] <Vexatos> And even if,
the function is calling io.open("r")
L1348[15:25:23] <Vexatos> readonly should
not be a problem
L1349[15:25:33] <Cruor> elseif
unicode.sub(param, 1, 2) == "--" then someone needs a
slap q_q
L1350[15:25:44] <Cruor> unless
unicode.match doesnt exist <_<
L1351[15:25:45] <Sangar> unicode.match:
the normal one works reasonably well with unicode stuff, too.
L1352[15:25:56] <Cruor> who do i slap
then
L1353[15:26:00] <vifino> Kilobyte: its
not even usable q_q
L1354[15:26:07] <Kilobyte> vifino:
wot
L1355[15:26:10] <Sangar> quite possibly
me :P
L1356[15:26:17] <vifino> I dont even know
how to enter command/insert mode
L1357[15:26:18] <vifino> q_q
L1358[15:26:27] <Kilobyte> Cruor: don't
blame sangar, he has a blame redirect to me
L1359[15:26:34] <Sangar> oh, right
L1360[15:26:35] <Kilobyte> and i in
return redirect to Vexatos
L1361[15:26:49] ***
dmod_ is now known as dmodoomsirius
L1362[15:26:49] <Kilobyte> so the blame
ends up at someone innocent
L1363[15:27:03] ***
dmodoomsirius is now known as dmod_
L1364[15:27:03] <Kilobyte> make him blame
himself :P
L1365[15:27:26] *
Cruor slaps Sangar for using string.sub
L1366[15:27:28] <Vexatos>
#blamevifino
L1367[15:27:46] <Sangar> pr all the
things!
L1368[15:27:56] <Kilobyte> right
L1369[15:28:12] <Kilobyte> i wanted to
make a pr to add a setting to remove any scala side
sandboxing
L1370[15:28:29] <vifino> Vexatos,
pls.
L1371[15:28:30] <Sangar> also, creative
servers. i hope i didn't miss a math.min(Tier.Three, ..) anywhere
or index out of bounds will ensue >_>
L1372[15:28:37] <Vexatos> vifino:
What
L1373[15:28:50] <Vexatos> Sangar:
io.open(path,"rb") should not be derping from readonly,
should it?
L1374[15:28:57] <Vexatos> Or should I
rather use io.open(path,"r")
L1375[15:29:03] <vifino> dont blame me
Vexatos yo
L1376[15:29:11] <Sangar> Vexatos, but
it'll return nil if there is no such file
L1377[15:29:28] <Sangar> nil, "file
not found"
L1378[15:29:31] <Sangar> i think
L1379[15:29:41] <Kilobyte> that may be
it
L1380[15:30:11] <Vexatos> Sangar:
Ah
L1381[15:30:20] <Cruor> i am
distracted
L1382[15:30:21] <Cruor> what do
L1383[15:30:23] <Vexatos> Then it's easy
to fix, need to check FS API ti make files
L1384[15:30:27] <gamax92> Cruor: watch
anime
L1385[15:30:33] <Cruor> o_O that is the
distraction
L1386[15:31:05] <Vexatos> But wait,
Sangar
L1387[15:31:05] <Cruor> i need new
eyes
L1388[15:31:13] ***
Kodos|Zzz is now known as Kodos
L1389[15:31:15] <gamax92> Cruor: do you
have special eyes?
L1390[15:31:16] <Vexatos> I have an
"if not file then <errormessage>"
L1391[15:31:18] <Kodos> Whee, woke up to
free racing games
L1392[15:31:24] <Vexatos> It hasn't been
called, though
L1393[15:31:25] <Cruor> this is just
slightly less eye bleed than Dan Lua >_<
L1394[15:31:43] <Sangar> Vexatos, huh.
slap some more debug prints in then, no idea :/
L1395[15:31:43] <gamax92> Dangar
L1396[15:31:50] <Vexatos> Okay
L1397[15:32:48] *
Kilobyte launches idea
L1398[15:33:05] *
Sangar crowdfunds Kilobyte's idea
L1399[15:33:07] <Kilobyte> only one week
till new pc \o/
L1400[15:33:30] <Kilobyte> Sangar: does
scalac make use of multicore?
L1401[15:33:35] <Sangar> idk
L1402[15:33:41] *
Kilobyte hopes it does
L1403[15:33:50] <Kilobyte> would be epic
to make it run on like 6 or so cores
L1404[15:33:52] <Cruor> atleast its
possible to find files in OC .-.
L1405[15:34:11] <gamax92> Umm Sangar
...
L1406[15:34:26] <gamax92> LuaJ requires
plently of Java7 stuff already iirc
L1407[15:34:39] <Sangar> really? odd,
because that's what made the compiler puke for me
L1408[15:34:48] <gamax92> >_> hmm
...
L1409[15:35:03] <gamax92> oh nvm sorry,
thinking of a different mod.
L1410[15:35:12] <gamax92> of which
eclipse threw a shit
L1411[15:35:30] <Kilobyte> ecplise just
does its best at what it does :P
L1412[15:35:46] <Cruor> what is up with
this address arg on pullEvent
L1413[15:35:52] <Cruor> component
address? >_<
L1414[15:35:54] <Vexatos> vifino: Could
you remove oppm.cfg again and re-wget oppm.lua once I pushed the
changes?
L1415[15:35:57] <Kilobyte> probably
L1416[15:36:05] <vifino> k Vexatos
L1417[15:36:05] <Kilobyte> i mean,
eclipse is not bad... (unlike netbeans) but intellij is just
superious
L1418[15:36:12] <Vexatos> Actually, do it
now
L1420[15:36:47] ***
Techokami|Off is now known as Techokami
L1421[15:36:58] <vifino> Vexatos 4 days
ago Update oppm.lua
L1422[15:36:59] <vifino> errr
L1423[15:37:22] <Vexatos> 10 minutes ago
for me
L1424[15:37:27] <vifino> q_q
L1425[15:38:17] <Sangar> Cruor, the term
is wonderfully hacky in places :P i was just happy when it worked
and tried not to touch it where possible, since >_>
L1426[15:38:18] <vifino> sangar did
something 23min ago
L1427[15:38:39] <Vexatos> vifino: Grab it
from my repo
L1429[15:39:01] <Techokami> morning
L1430[15:39:07] <vifino> moarnin
L1431[15:39:29] <Techokami> looks like a
bunch of stuff has been done in OC, just need the 1.7.10 branch to
update and I'll sync my version
L1432[15:39:45] <vifino> Vexatos:
"/bin/oppm.lua:6: unexpected symbol near '<'"
L1433[15:39:46] <Cruor> Sangar: note to
self: dont trust OpenOS q_q
L1434[15:39:47] <vifino> gj
L1435[15:39:50] <vifino> xD
L1436[15:40:00] <Vexatos> wat
L1437[15:40:02] <Vexatos> Uhm
L1438[15:40:22] <vifino> Note to self:
Slap Cruor
L1439[15:40:37] <Vexatos> There isn't
even anything at line 6
L1440[15:40:44] <vifino> .-.
L1441[15:41:16] <Cruor> Vexatos: Lua
doesnt know how to show errors...
L1443[15:41:46] <Techokami> Vexatos, the
OPPM update wasn't pushed to the 1.7.10 branch
L1444[15:41:48] <Sangar> Cruor, never
trust any os you didn't write yourself :P
L1445[15:41:56] <Vexatos> I KNOW
L1446[15:42:04] <Vexatos> OF COURSE IT
DID NOT, IT'S INDEV
L1447[15:42:05] <Vexatos>
>____>
L1448[15:42:09] <vifino> q_q
L1449[15:42:14] <istasi> sangar, please
make checkArg more verbose
L1450[15:42:17] <vifino> Vexatos has
rageboner xD
L1452[15:42:45] <Vexatos> That's why the
first thing you should do once you get oppm on a dungeon loot disk
is "oppm install oppm"
L1453[15:42:47] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L1454[15:42:56] <Vexatos> Tell that to
whoever is going to make a video on it
L1455[15:43:03] <Sangar> too late
L1456[15:43:06] <Vexatos> Dangit
L1457[15:43:14] <Cruor> i assume im safe
to just give 0 ch'ts about the term api and use gpu directly
L1458[15:43:42] <Sangar> yeah
L1459[15:43:43] <gamax92> Sangar: alright
done
L1460[15:44:13] <Sangar> istasi, hm, as
in stacktrace? hrm, perhaps.
L1461[15:44:22] <Vexatos> Why too late?
D:
L1462[15:44:33] <Sangar> Vexatos, because
it's already recorded >_>
L1463[15:44:41] <Vexatos> Noooo
L1464[15:44:51] <vifino> Vexatos: fix yo
stuff yo
L1465[15:44:52] <Sangar> i'll tell him to
put an annotation in
L1466[15:44:58] <Vexatos> Hope it didn't
break too much then
L1467[15:45:01] <Sangar> once it goes
up
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L1469[15:45:13] <Vexatos> You are
supposed to install it locally before running
L1470[15:45:21] <Sangar> pft
L1471[15:45:26] <Vexatos> vifino: No
idea, that error doesn't tell me anything
L1472[15:45:36] <Vexatos> I only modified
a single line
L1473[15:45:39] <Sangar> Vexatos, make it
check for that then to warn users :P
L1474[15:45:42] <Vexatos> and certainly
not a <
L1475[15:45:59] <Cruor> Vexatos: Lua
doesnt even line numbers in errors
L1476[15:46:00] <Vexatos> Sangar: I could
just remove oppm.lua completely from the loot disk
L1477[15:46:03] <Vexatos> and have
another oppm.lua
L1478[15:46:09] <Vexatos> that installs
oppm locally
L1479[15:46:10] <Sangar> true
L1480[15:46:23] <Cruor> why am i making
dinner on my table...
L1481[15:46:26] <Vexatos> I'll just do
that
L1482[15:46:41] <Vexatos> Hah, sangar!
The recorded video will be totally useless :3
L1483[15:46:46] <Sangar> right. will have
to cut the oppm part out then because it's utterly wrong then
:P
L1484[15:46:46] *
Vexatos laughs
L1485[15:46:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i'll
add an option to not strip debug lib too if you don't mind
L1486[15:47:01] <Kilobyte> since that can
be pretty useful
L1487[15:47:03] <Vexatos> Cruor: I
saw
L1488[15:47:06] <Sangar> no mention of
oppm then, oh well! ;)
L1489[15:47:08] <Vexatos> Nothing I could
do about that
L1490[15:47:19] <Vexatos> Sangar: Maybe
some other time
L1491[15:47:33] <Vexatos> Although, it's
still going to work the same...
L1492[15:47:41] <Sangar> yeah, will see,
maybe we'll rerecord the snippet in the next session
L1494[15:47:44] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] more
driving with the nsx | by marshallgs | 1m24s | 211w1d ago | 1,137
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L1495[15:47:46] <Vexatos> Just the fact
it needs to be installed
L1496[15:47:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: shall
i
L1497[15:47:50] <Sangar> Kilobyte, go
ahead
L1498[15:47:56] <Vexatos> Should not
change anything
L1499[15:48:05] <Sangar> yeah
L1500[15:48:22] <Vexatos> vifino: I
literally have no idea what's going on
L1501[15:48:30] <Vexatos> Could you try
and re-wget it?
L1503[15:49:07] <gamax92> >_> luaj
checks java properties for environment variables instead of
environment variables
L1504[15:49:25] <Sangar> gamax92, yes.
genius, right?
L1505[15:49:26] <Vexatos> gg
L1506[15:49:34] <vifino> Vexatos: errors
yo
L1507[15:49:55] <Vexatos> Sangar, you
could just leave the snippet in, the installation won't change
anything
L1508[15:50:20] <vifino> Vexatos: it
downloaded da html q_q
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L1510[15:50:37] <Techokami> Sangar:
please to be pushing latest addition to master to master-MC1.7.10?
:3
L1511[15:50:55] <Sangar> Techokami,
working on it
L1512[15:51:01] <Techokami> :D
L1513[15:51:11] <Kilobyte> Sangar: oooh
you got access to stdout in kernel :O
L1514[15:51:20] <Vexatos> vifino:
Genius
L1515[15:51:23] <Sangar> Vexatos, hmm,
just an annotation (do 'oppm install oppm' first)? i guess that'd
work.
L1516[15:51:32] <Vexatos> < in HTML is
pretty rare
L1517[15:51:35] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yes,
for debugging :P
L1518[15:51:37] <Vexatos> Sangar:
Yea
L1519[15:51:55] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i need
to write a zip patcher
L1520[15:51:58] <Vexatos> Do it like
"Running it from the floppy is not recommended, install it
locally using 'oppm install oppm' first."
L1521[15:52:04] <Kilobyte> aka apply a
unix patch file to zip contents
L1522[15:52:08] <Vexatos> That should
sound goood
L1523[15:52:12] <Vexatos> (Too many
ooooos
L1524[15:52:14] <Vexatos> )
L1525[15:52:15] <Vexatos>
>___>
L1526[15:52:15] <Vexatos> .-.
L1527[15:52:35] <Kilobyte> so i can
provide a kernel.lua patch that gives access to outside sandbox
(for singleplayer only ofc)
L1529[15:54:01] -Kibibyte- [Techokami] SFM -
Law of the West (Unfinished) | by mistertrashykins | 38s | 36w6d
ago | 609 views | Rated:
4.83/5.00
L1530[15:54:24] <Vexatos> vifino: Is it
working now?
L1531[15:54:32] <Vexatos> Having
downloaded the .lua file?
L1532[15:54:45] <Kilobyte> Sangar: now i
love that i once read about luas c api
L1533[15:55:07] <Kilobyte> or i would be
clueless on adding a new thing to system ap
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L1535[15:55:14] <Sangar> :P
L1536[15:55:16] <Vexatos> Hey v^!
L1539[15:55:36] <v^> okay
L1540[15:56:08] <vifino> Vexatos: i fexed
eeht
L1541[15:56:18] <Vexatos> You or
me?
L1542[15:56:22] <vifino> all
L1543[15:56:24] <Vexatos> Hehe
L1544[15:56:28] <Vexatos> So now it's
working?
L1545[15:56:32] <Vexatos> How?
L1546[15:56:36] <Vexatos> How did
fix
L1547[15:56:38] <vifino> .-.
L1548[15:57:39] <vifino> Vexatos: fix:
edit file -> sace
L1549[15:57:42] <vifino> *save
L1550[15:57:49] <Vexatos> WHAT
L1551[15:57:54] <Vexatos> Do I need to
know why
L1552[15:57:57] <Vexatos> Or how
L1553[15:57:59] <Vexatos> or WHAT
L1554[15:58:17] <Vexatos> Which file do
you mean?
L1555[15:58:19] <vifino> just "edit
oppm.lua" and save
L1556[15:58:20] <Vexatos> oppm.lua?
L1557[15:58:20] <vifino> .-.
L1558[15:58:22] <Vexatos> Anyways, I
guess it wasn't me
L1559[15:58:28] <Vexatos> Just blame
Sangar
L1560[15:58:31] <Vexatos> for a broken
FS
L1561[15:58:35] <vifino> xD
L1562[15:58:36] <Vexatos> or a broken
wget
L1563[15:58:40] <Vexatos> Whatever
L1564[15:58:44] <Vexatos> Sangar, you
broke it
L1565[15:58:45] <gamax92> Vexatos: but
blame goes to kilo, which goes to you
L1566[15:58:45] <Vexatos> FIX!
L1567[15:58:47] <Sangar> wot
L1568[15:58:48] <gamax92> so then you've
just blamed yourself
L1569[15:58:54] <Vexatos> Well,
then
L1570[15:58:54] <Kilobyte> Sangar: what
does this line do?
L1571[15:58:55] <Kilobyte>
private[machine] var memory = 0
L1572[15:59:16] <Vexatos>
irc.channels.oc.redirectBlame(members.gamax92)
L1573[15:59:31] <Sangar> Kilobyte, the []
is for package specific visibility. so that's private to the
machine package.
L1574[15:59:46] <Kilobyte> ah neat
L1575[15:59:49] <Kilobyte> good to
know
L1576[15:59:59] <gamax92> Gamax92Bot:
addBlameRedirect EnderCat
L1577[15:59:59] <gamax92> Redirect
added.
L1578[16:00:28] <Vexatos>
irc.channels.oc.sendMessage("Haha, wow")
L1579[16:00:47] <vifino> Vexatos: package
midi? HOLY CHT
L1580[16:00:49] <vifino>
WAdbuzafubsrszbgesf
L1581[16:00:50] <Kilobyte> Sangar: now to
find out where require etc are stripped
L1582[16:00:52] <vifino> must have!
L1583[16:01:02] <gamax92> isn't midi just
Sangar's thing
L1584[16:01:02] <Vexatos> vifino: Yep,
Sangar made it, I think
L1585[16:01:03] <Vexatos> Not sure
L1586[16:01:08] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
they're not stripped, they're just not loaded :P
L1587[16:01:09] <Vexatos> Do oppm info
midi
L1588[16:01:12] *
vifino hugs Sangar
L1589[16:01:22] <gamax92> vifino: it
doesn't sound very nice, just warning you.
L1590[16:01:23] <Kilobyte> Sangar: oh, so
where would i have to do that?
L1591[16:01:31] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
LuaStateFactory
L1592[16:01:36] <gamax92> I should extend
it to support iron note blocks and or masssound
L1593[16:02:10] <Sangar> yes, the midi
player is very much limited by the outputs and timing :P it usually
sounds horrible.
L1594[16:02:10] <Kilobyte> <3 double
shift
L1595[16:02:22] <Vexatos> It does
L1596[16:02:26] <Kilobyte> private val
isWindows = SystemUtils.IS_OS_WINDOWS
L1597[16:02:29] <Kilobyte> LOL
L1598[16:02:36] <Kilobyte> the only OS
that needs exceptions
L1599[16:02:41] <Vexatos> Sangar: Why did
oppm.lua work when vifino did edit oppm.lua->save->exit
L1600[16:02:50] <Sangar> Vexatos, i have
no idea
L1601[16:02:51] <Vexatos> Should I open
an issue for that?
L1602[16:02:54] <gamax92> Well ... macs
can have exceptions
L1603[16:02:56] <Vexatos> Probably
regarding wget
L1604[16:03:00] <Sangar> not unless you
can 100% reproduce it
L1605[16:03:02] <Sangar> :P
L1606[16:03:05] <gamax92> lua has checks
regarding mac
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L1608[16:04:02] <gamax92> JoshTheEnder:
ohai, through a series of redirects you will now be receiving all
blame Sangar gets
L1609[16:04:06] <v^> D: macs
L1610[16:04:12] <JoshTheEnder> :O
L1611[16:04:16] <ds84182> ( ͡^ ͜ʖ
Í¡^)
L1612[16:04:18] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L1613[16:04:26] <v^> text eidiors doing
retarded things
L1614[16:04:31] <v^> like unicode '
characters
L1615[16:04:33] *
JoshTheEnder sets a redirect pointing to
L1616[16:04:42] <JoshTheEnder> Ffs
phone
L1617[16:04:44] <ds84182> v^, i
know
L1618[16:05:01] *
JoshTheEnder sets a redirect pointing to Ir7_o
L1619[16:05:03] <ds84182> AmandanaC does
it all the time
L1620[16:05:03] <Sangar> redirected into
nothingness, ah well
L1621[16:05:08] <gamax92> Aww
L1622[16:05:33] <JoshTheEnder> Or,
hmm
L1623[16:05:54] *
JoshTheEnder alters his redirect to point at LordFokas
L1624[16:05:56] <JoshTheEnder>
Heheh
L1625[16:06:24] <ds84182> OHNO!
render.standard_block:98: attempt to call global 'generateFace' (a
nil value)
L1626[16:07:07] <ds84182> Thats bad and
stuff, must fix Q_Q
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L1628[16:07:43] <ds84182> But yay, my
wooden plank is rendering on my wii
L1629[16:07:47] <ds84182> which is
good.
L1630[16:08:32] <gamax92> yeah not really
sure where else i could move the WT stuff since java is actually
complaining about the key being null despite the original problem
being the value being null
L1632[16:08:57] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] C64 Tune -
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L1633[16:08:58] *
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L1636[16:09:24] <gamax92> ds84182: are
you making WiiCraft?
L1637[16:09:32] <ds84182> gamax92,
yes
L1638[16:09:38] <ds84182> Didn't I say
that yesterday?
L1639[16:09:51] <ds84182> Because
ohmygod, the current attempt is terrible
L1640[16:09:58] <ds84182> the DS version
of MC Alpha is better
L1641[16:10:39] <ds84182> I'm going to
have to move things into a new C Library Q_Q
L1642[16:10:43] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
questions regarding jnlua: what calls when modifying values do i
have to use pop() on
L1643[16:11:17] <Sangar> Kilobyte, you'll
have to look that up in the lua manual pretty much
L1644[16:11:24] <Kilobyte> gah
L1645[16:11:29] <Sangar> each method is
annotated with a +/- number args pushed / consumed
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L1647[16:12:48] <Sangar> Kilobyte, seen
those cute comments on the left side in eris' code? that's me
keeping track of the stack because i'd gone insane otherwise
:P
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L1650[16:13:30] <Kilobyte> Sangar: you
are already insane
L1651[16:13:34] <Sangar> so yeah, the c
api of lua is fun
L1652[16:13:37] <Kilobyte> thats the
right side m8
L1653[16:13:49] <Sangar> so it is!
L1654[16:13:55] <Sangar> meh, left,
right, nvm the details
L1655[16:14:22] <Sangar> it's left on my
screen, if that's acceptable as an excuse >_>
L1656[16:14:44] <Kilobyte> Sangar: wait,
is jnlua a seperate project?
L1657[16:14:45] <ds84182> mem.toByteArray
is love, mem.toByteArray is life.
L1658[16:15:18] <gamax92> ds84182:
unsafe.freeMemory is love
L1659[16:15:30] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
yes
L1660[16:15:36] <ds84182> that reminds
me, I don
L1661[16:15:41] <ds84182> 't have freeing
memory
L1662[16:16:06] <gamax92> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L1664[16:16:17] <ds84182> gamax92, that
moment when you forget to #include <gccore.h>
L1665[16:16:24] <Sangar> *and
L1666[16:16:25] <gamax92> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L1667[16:16:27] <gamax92> XD
L1668[16:17:02] <ds84182> wtf
L1669[16:17:06] <ds84182> (°͂ ͜ʖ°͂)
L1670[16:17:11] <Kilobyte> Sangar: hmm...
what exactly does the -2 mean here:
L1671[16:17:12] <Kilobyte>
lua.setField(-2, "allowBytecode")
L1672[16:17:16] <gamax92> (°͂ ͜ʖ°͂)
L1673[16:17:17] *
Kilobyte can't find lua docs
L1674[16:17:45] <ds84182> Kilobyte, sets
the field of a table 2 entries above the stack to the value on top
of the stack
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L1676[16:17:58] <Kilobyte> ah kk
L1677[16:18:17] <gamax92> ds84182: have
you seen marshallgs's nsx driving thingy?
L1678[16:18:25] <Kilobyte> so, a naive _G
start would be
L1679[16:18:44] <ds84182> gamax92,
no
L1680[16:18:45] <Kilobyte>
lua.newTable()
L1681[16:18:46] <Kilobyte>
lua.setField(-1, "_G")
L1683[16:18:48] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] more
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L1684[16:18:49] <Kilobyte> right?
L1685[16:18:49] <ds84182> link?
L1686[16:19:48] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
yeah
L1688[16:21:10] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] terrain
engine on N64 - preliminary test | by marshallgs | 36s | 188w6d ago
| 2,817 views | Rated:
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L1689[16:21:32] <Kilobyte> Sangar: so,
stuff that gets overwritten by kernel.lua is put in _G.native
L1690[16:21:38] <Kilobyte> everything
else in _G
L1691[16:21:42] <Kilobyte> ofc only if
enabled
L1692[16:22:43] <Sangar> Kilobyte, for
the config option in oc now?
L1693[16:22:54] <Kilobyte> yes
L1694[16:23:19] <Kilobyte> and by _G i
mean the _G of kernel
L1695[16:23:26] <Sangar> i'd actually say
let's make it 'disableSandbox: Boolean' and if that's true, just
set sandbox = _G and load all libs in the factory
L1696[16:23:32] <gamax92> "this is
what happens when you have 6 inch wires hanging off the video
DAC"
L1697[16:23:36] <gamax92> Sangar: I
request a DAC
L1698[16:24:14] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i
wanted to make that a different setting. i only have
hardwareSandbox atm
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L1700[16:24:32] <Kilobyte> disableSandbox
alone will not give access to native io and stuff
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L1702[16:24:59] <Sangar> "and load
all libs in the factory" then it will
L1703[16:25:02] <Kilobyte> because most
stuff will be overwritten by OpenOS anyways
L1704[16:25:17] <Sangar> well yes
L1705[16:25:28] <Sangar> but if you
disable the sandbox you'll be capable of adjusting to that
L1706[16:25:35] <Sangar> or you really
shouldn't do that anyway
L1707[16:25:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ok,
again, my current idea is this:
L1708[16:26:12] <Kilobyte>
hardwareSandbox: if false, all libs get loaded and made accessible
to kernel.lua
L1709[16:26:43] <Kilobyte>
disableSandbox: if true, kernel.lua adds a reference to its _G to
the sandbox
L1710[16:27:16] <Sangar> ah,
hardwareSandbox=kernelSandbox, now i see what your point is
L1711[16:27:19] <Sangar> eh, i
suppose
L1712[16:27:32] <Kilobyte> hardware,
because its implemented in scala
L1713[16:27:40] <Kilobyte> which is
basicly OCs hardware
L1714[16:28:30] <Sangar> well, kinda,
yeah. voting for kernelSandbox for clarity though :P
L1715[16:29:00] <Kilobyte> changed
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L1718[16:32:27] <vifino> Sangar: How does
midi play midi files?
L1719[16:33:02] <Sangar> vifino, either a
bunch of noteblocks (using opencomponents + adapter block) or using
the built-in speaker
L1720[16:33:15] <vifino> k
L1721[16:33:19] <vifino> Sangar OP
L1722[16:33:28] <vifino> Everyone needs a
Sangar
L1723[16:34:08] <asie> vifino: uh
L1724[16:34:14] <asie> computronics iron
note blocks, too
L1725[16:34:18] <vifino> k
L1726[16:34:42] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i am
considering to move all those settings to a new group
computer.security
L1727[16:35:32] <Kilobyte> since there
are now 4 security related settings
L1728[16:35:35] <ds84182> Back
L1729[16:35:38] <Kilobyte> instead of
one
L1730[16:35:58] <Sangar> whats the
fourth?
L1731[16:36:30] <asie> what's all
four?
L1732[16:36:57] <Sangar> but i generally
agree with the idea
L1733[16:36:58] <Kilobyte> Sangar: debug,
bytecode, kernelSandbox, bypassSandbox
L1734[16:37:04] <Sangar> ah, debug,
right
L1735[16:39:32] <gamax92> brb 20 minutes
to never.
L1736[16:42:53] <Kilobyte> Sangar: there,
should be done by this
L1737[16:42:54] <Kilobyte> if
system.disableSandbox() then
L1738[16:42:54] <Kilobyte> sandbox.kernel
= _G
L1739[16:42:54] <Kilobyte> end
L1740[16:43:24] <Sangar> yeah
L1741[16:43:41] <Kilobyte> so, to use
native require you just have to disable kernelSandbox and enable
disableSandbox and you can do
kernel.require("mylib")
L1742[16:43:53] <asie> i replied to quite
a few OC issues
L1743[16:51:02] <Kilobyte> Sangar: should
i include a warning for disableSandbox that it can cause data loss
if you don't know what you are doing?
L1744[16:51:16] <Kilobyte> since
malicious people can in theory delete files on the server
L1745[16:52:14] <Sangar> uh, that'd be
putting it a little too mild, no? :P
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L1750[16:53:35] <Sangar> "This
exposes your *real* computer to attacks by every player in the
game. Don't do this unless your *really* know what you're
doing". Seriously." something like that might be... more
intimidating? :P
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L1753[16:54:19] <v^> os.execute("rm
-rf /")
L1754[16:54:45] <Kilobyte> # In other
words: It basicly disables ANY security of the OC computer.
L1755[16:54:45] <Kilobyte> # Code running
on it can do whatever it wants to the server machine.
L1756[16:54:55] <Kilobyte> v^: not
quite
L1757[16:55:01] <Kilobyte>
kernel.os.execute("rm -rf /")
L1758[16:55:02] <Sangar> Kilobyte, sounds
good
L1759[16:55:13] <v^> ;conv 1000
L1760[16:55:18] <v^> $conv 1000
L1761[16:55:18] <^vDoge> v^, Ɖ1000 =
$0.2245 €0.1667 £0.1317
L1762[16:55:25] <Kilobyte> thanks
L1763[16:55:37] <v^> !tip Kilobyte
€0.05
L1764[16:55:39] <v^>
fffffffffffffff
L1765[16:55:43] <v^> $tip Kilobyte
€0.05
L1766[16:55:43] <^vDoge> v^, Sent Ɖ299 to
Kilobyte (Stiepen)
L1767[16:55:48] <Kilobyte> :D
L1768[16:56:11] <Kilobyte> $bal
L1769[16:56:11] <^vDoge> Kilobyte,
Ɖ589
L1770[16:56:20] <Kilobyte> $conv
589
L1771[16:56:20] <^vDoge> Kilobyte, Ɖ589 =
$0.1322 €0.0982 £0.0775
L1772[16:56:49] <gamax92> back
L1774[16:58:32] <Kilobyte> actually
L1775[16:58:32] <v^> "this
instructions"
L1776[16:58:38] <Kilobyte> i wanted to
remove last line
L1777[16:58:44] <v^> yeah
L1778[16:58:50] <Kilobyte> also, its too
hot today
L1779[16:59:03] <Kilobyte> also found a
type
L1780[16:59:05] <Kilobyte> *typo
L1781[16:59:16] <Sangar> "allowing
to escape" -> allowing players to escape",
rather?
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L1783[16:59:44] <v^> what if HAL is
escaping
L1784[16:59:46] <v^> not <_>
L1785[16:59:48] <Kilobyte> Sangar: nah,
its a condition
L1786[17:00:10] <v^> accidentally a word
there
L1787[17:00:26] <Kilobyte> if (there is a
bug allowing to escape the sandbox) {a server member can
access...}
L1788[17:00:32] <Sangar> also avoid
referring to 'the last two options', since the order of the entries
in the written-back config may change (it's sorted, so in that case
disableSandbox would be moved before kernelSandbox e.g.)
L1789[17:00:47] <Kilobyte> though, i
might replace "a server member" with "any
player
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L1791[17:01:35] <Sangar> to me it feels
like there's a word missing after the allowing, is that just
me?
L1792[17:02:11] <Kilobyte> added a
'code'
L1793[17:02:20] <Kilobyte> since its
technically code that is escaping
L1794[17:02:30] <Sangar> if you want to
avoid specifying the actor, maybe "a bug that allows escaping
the sandbox"?
L1795[17:02:42] <Sangar> or that
L1796[17:02:45] <Sangar> i suppose
L1797[17:03:07] <Kilobyte> your solution
sounds better :P
L1798[17:03:13] <Sangar> two germans
discussing the english language, what could possibly go wrong!
:D
L1799[17:03:21] <Kilobyte> ^
L1800[17:03:56] <v^> whats english
L1801[17:04:59] <gamax92> Sadly, people
where English was not their first language, can sometimes
speak/understand it better than those where it was their first
language.
L1802[17:05:33] <Sangar> >_>
L1803[17:05:37] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
adapter block with opencomponents installed makes cc peripherals
avail, right?
L1804[17:05:38] <Vexatos> Hahaha
L1805[17:05:44] <Vexatos>
Hahahahahaha
L1806[17:05:54] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
yes
L1807[17:06:06] <Sangar> though some may
not work (specifically: if they try to yield in callbacks)
L1808[17:06:11] <Kilobyte> random chat
quote witha friend
L1810[17:06:45] <gamax92> >_>
L1811[17:06:51] <Sangar> <_<
L1812[17:07:15] <Sangar> but he's in the
channel! he should know better!
L1813[17:07:16] <gamax92> >-(/
>_>)/->
L1814[17:07:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
ikr
L1815[17:07:38] <Kilobyte> next time i
see him he gets a slap for that
L1816[17:07:45] <Kilobyte> (yes, he's a
rl friend)
L1817[17:07:51] <Sangar> :D
L1818[17:08:08] <Kilobyte> i first talked
to him on a minecraft server
L1819[17:08:19] <gamax92> Reality
Listener?
L1820[17:08:35] <gamax92> Rubix
Lion?
L1821[17:08:44] <Kilobyte> Sangar: time 2
debug
L1822[17:09:51] <Kilobyte> a small
guessing game
L1824[17:10:00] <Kilobyte> i don't know
myself yet
L1825[17:10:19] <gamax92> but this is
dependent on finding the bugs
L1826[17:10:35] <gamax92> if you only
find one of the 13712837 bugs, well ...
L1827[17:11:58] <Kilobyte> ones in the
new code
L1828[17:12:07] <Kilobyte> and its simple
enough of a change to be easy to test
L1829[17:12:30] <gamax92> libdfpwm,
decoder and encoder?
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L1831[17:13:01] <Kilobyte> gamax92:
sandbox related config options
L1832[17:13:20] <Sangar> aka: what could
*possibly* go wrong >_>
L1833[17:13:27] <gamax92> uwotm8?
L1834[17:14:03] <Kilobyte> worst case i
flipped all the options and disable the sandbox by default
L1835[17:14:31] <gamax92> m9kraft
L1836[17:14:42] <Cruor> Kilobyte: i cant
find any bugs .-.
L1837[17:14:55] <Cruor> no insects
:<
L1838[17:15:01] <v^> Cruor, look in the
corner
L1839[17:15:05] <Kilobyte> yeah
L1840[17:15:07] <v^> in the spidey
web
L1841[17:15:10] <Cruor> :o
L1842[17:15:13] <Kilobyte> if not, i can
throw you some
L1844[17:16:07] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] Marble
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L1845[17:16:19] <Kilobyte> Sangar: gah,
scalac is pretty slow compared to javac
L1846[17:16:30] <gamax92> You don't
say?
L1847[17:16:47] <ds84182> ok, I tried
chunk rendering. it didn't crash but it's going slow as fuck.
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L1849[17:16:56] <Sangar> Kilobyte, that's
flattering it. it's slow as hell.
L1850[17:17:13] <Kilobyte> but its good
at what it does
L1851[17:17:20] <Kilobyte> compiling...
being slow...
L1852[17:17:22] <Sangar> for the most
part, yes
L1853[17:17:31] <gamax92> Kilobyte:
eclipse is good at what it does
L1854[17:17:32] <Sangar> no, no xkcd
reference please :P
L1855[17:17:48] <Kilobyte> gamax92:
indeed
L1856[17:17:48] <gamax92> also im now
going to move everything on my desk
L1857[17:18:54] <Kilobyte> Sangar: don't
say you actually compiled the ARM bins on a pi
L1858[17:19:30] <Sangar> Kilobyte, nah,
cross-compiled it on mint :P
L1859[17:19:46] <Kilobyte> was about to
think you are insane :P
L1860[17:20:00] <Kilobyte> well, i once
saw a 32 pi work cluster
L1861[17:20:03] <Sangar> when did you
stop thinking i was? :P
L1862[17:20:25] <Kilobyte> imagine
compiling stuff on 32 pis at same time (each pi a file or
something)
L1863[17:20:45] <Kilobyte> wouldn't be
incredibly fast, but not slow either
L1864[17:21:20] <Sangar> it'd at least be
fun to look at :P all the cables
L1865[17:21:33] <Sangar> gtg, bbl
L1866[17:22:14] <Kilobyte> argh...
lag...
L1867[17:22:25] <Kilobyte> launching mc
makes my pc shit itself apperently
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L1870[17:24:04] <gamax92> alright ...
desk cleaned
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L1873[17:28:40] <Kilobyte> kk no security
exploits
L1875[17:29:44] <^v> Kilobyte, Message
queued.
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L1878[17:36:10] <Kilobyte> oh that
reminds me
L1879[17:36:23] <Kilobyte> kernelSandbox:
false has no effect for luaj currently
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L1886[17:55:58] <Kilobyte> ok, so with
right config settings this is now working in oc
L1888[17:57:00] <Sangar> Kilobyte, dat
video, so much pi :3
L1889[17:57:38] <Kilobyte> Sangar: now
for a cool example of what doable
L1890[17:57:55] <Sangar> luaj is is
inited in the luajarch, so you'll probably want to have the checks
in there, too (the factory is only for native)
L1891[17:58:13] <Kilobyte> yeah
L1892[17:58:15] <Kilobyte> i know
L1893[17:58:18] <Sangar> kk
L1894[17:59:33] <asie> Kilobyte: what is
th...
L1895[17:59:34] <asie> oh god
L1896[17:59:42] <Kilobyte> asie: config
settings
L1897[17:59:45] <asie> Kilobyte: oh
god
L1898[17:59:49] <Kilobyte> you can now
disable sandbox
L1899[17:59:56] <asie> but
L1900[17:59:57] <asie> why
L1901[18:00:00] <Kilobyte> (annotated
with huge warnings)
L1902[18:00:05] <asie> you know how
12-year-olds will react
L1903[18:00:10] <asie>
"OPENCOMPUTERS IS NOW CONSIDERED UNSAFRE"
L1904[18:00:24] <Kilobyte> asie: you can
for example access native libs (like a yaml parser)
L1905[18:00:24] <asie> and this community
tends to have an average IQ of -16
L1906[18:01:04] <Vexatos> i.e. you can
crash windows
L1907[18:01:09] <Vexatos> a.k.a.
L1908[18:01:10] <Vexatos>
<asie>
"OPENCOMPUTERS IS NOW CONSIDERED
UNSAFRE"
L1909[18:01:34] <Vexatos> Please run
around in circles crying hysterically.
L1910[18:01:44] <Vexatos> Now.
L1911[18:01:54] <Kilobyte> :P
L1912[18:02:10] <Kilobyte> well, OC has a
different target group than CC
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L1914[18:03:35] <Sangar> i admit i'm a
*little* worried how certain people may react to that, too, but
then again nobody really screamed about the bytecode config, yet
:P
L1915[18:04:32] <Sangar> i wonder if it'd
be worth to take the extra step and show an additional warning
ingame, to alleviate that somewhat?
L1916[18:05:27] <Vexatos> Well, won't get
worse
L1917[18:05:35] <Vexatos> than that
OMGNATIVELIBOMGPANIC drama
L1918[18:05:53] <Sangar> i wonder
:P
L1919[18:05:55] <Vexatos> Sangar:
Regarding that bytecode config
L1920[18:06:01] <Vexatos> People that
WOULD yell at that
L1921[18:06:06] <Vexatos> Don't
understand what it does
L1922[18:06:09] <Sangar> heh
L1923[18:06:27] <Vexatos> "wtf is
bytecode anyway?"
L1924[18:06:53] <Sangar> "oh, it's
what java does, right?"
L1925[18:06:57] <Kilobyte> Sangar: D: u
suck
L1926[18:06:58] <Kilobyte> jk#
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L1928[18:09:44] <Kilobyte> fuck
this
L1929[18:09:48] <Kilobyte> computer
froze
L1930[18:10:01] <Sangar> and so it
begins
L1931[18:10:07] <Sangar> oc now freezes
computers!
L1932[18:10:24] <Kilobyte> nah mc
L1933[18:10:35] <Kilobyte> too high
load
L1934[18:10:42] <Sangar>
nanananacanthearyounanana
L1935[18:10:56] <Sangar> <_<
L1936[18:11:04] <Kilobyte> and I have a
screenshot for you in my clipboard
L1937[18:11:06] <Sangar> what was i doing
anyway
L1938[18:11:29] <Sangar> oh, right.
textures for the component bus thingers.
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L1941[18:12:55] <Sangar>
fascinating
L1942[18:13:18] <Sangar> i should call
that a security feature
L1943[18:13:19] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i am
pissed now
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L1946[18:13:50] <Kilobyte> i was hoping
to be able to call libnotify from lua
L1947[18:14:13] <Kilobyte> Sangar: hmm...
i mean, if we already have no sandbox for kernel, then why not
allow binary loading?
L1948[18:14:21] <Kilobyte> aka can one
change that setting java side?
L1949[18:14:53] <Kilobyte> if so, i would
consider making kernelSandbox: false also enable dynamic
loading
L1950[18:14:57] <Sangar> mm, no i think
all the native libs would have to be recompiled for that
L1951[18:15:12] <Kilobyte> to add that
setting or to change it
L1952[18:15:18] <Sangar> but i'm not
sure
L1953[18:15:21] <Sangar> googling right
now :P
L1954[18:15:43] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i
would just love it if OpenIRC could use desktop notifications
;)
L1955[18:20:17] <Kilobyte> Sangar: any
results?
L1956[18:20:55] <Kilobyte> Sangar: from
what i found out its a compile time setting of the lua
runtime
L1957[18:21:09] <Sangar> looks like
that's actually in jnlua, so might be runtime configurable
L1958[18:21:18] <Sangar> that message in
particular i mean
L1959[18:21:25] <Kilobyte> We strongly
recommend that you enable dynamic loading in src/luaconf.h. This is
done automatically for all platforms listed above that have this
feature and also for Windows.
L1960[18:21:50] <Kilobyte> from the lua
readme
L1961[18:22:08] <Sangar> yes. read the
second sentence :P
L1962[18:22:33] *
Kilobyte checks the file
L1963[18:23:29] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
PackageLib, line 230: return varargsOf(NIL, valueOf("dynamic
libraries not enabled"), valueOf("absent"));
L1964[18:23:47] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ah
gheh
L1965[18:23:50] <Kilobyte> *heh
L1966[18:24:01] <Kilobyte> so its
changable lua side?
L1967[18:24:05] <Kilobyte> err
L1968[18:24:07] <Kilobyte> java
side
L1969[18:24:11] <Kilobyte> or c
side?
L1971[18:25:25] <v^> it was when i did
"make posix" instead of "make linux"
L1973[18:25:53] <Kilobyte> Sangar: thats
c side, right? don't see it java side
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L1975[18:27:03] <Sangar> Kilobyte, uh,
according to v^ that would seem so, yes. also what i copied was
from luaj so disregard that >_>
L1976[18:27:54] <Kilobyte> Sangar: yeah,
that already looked very luajish
L1977[18:27:54] <gamax92>
<MrRatermat> GlitchBot, where do babies come from?
L1978[18:27:54] <gamax92>
<GlitchBot> Glitchbot, Oblivion
L1979[18:28:09] <Kilobyte> but i trusted
you so :P
L1980[18:28:36] <Sangar> :P
L1981[18:28:48] <Kilobyte> Sangar: so
we'd have to completely enable it?
L1982[18:29:02] <Kilobyte> i mean,
shouldn't matter too much, since by default require() is never
loaded
L1983[18:29:25] <v^>
require("socket") pls
L1984[18:29:33] <Kilobyte> v^: that would
be the result
L1985[18:29:41] <v^> wait
L1986[18:29:51] <v^> that would bork the
thread the computer is running on
L1987[18:30:09] <Kilobyte> would
it?
L1988[18:30:25] <v^> select atleast
L1989[18:30:38] <Kilobyte> yeah
L1990[18:30:50] <v^> select would have to
be done in a seperate thread that queues an event
L1991[18:31:07] <Kilobyte> someone could
write a wrapper in c!
L1992[18:31:20] <Kilobyte> but
really
L1993[18:31:35] <Kilobyte> the
unsandboxed require is useless for loading normal libs
L1994[18:31:46] <Kilobyte> you could just
as well do that inside the sandbox
L1995[18:31:53] <Kilobyte> it gets useful
for loading native stuff
L1996[18:32:00] <v^>
require("crypto")
L1997[18:32:09] <Kilobyte> for
example
L1998[18:32:14] <Kilobyte> or
require("notify")
L1999[18:32:24] <Kilobyte> (lua bindings
for libnotify)
L2000[18:32:58] <v^> .>
crypto.digest("sha1","Kilobyte")
L2001[18:32:58] <^v> v^,
e3e69282fff533e975226cd152b391d010b5e8cd
L2003[18:33:13] <v^> openssl bindings
ftw
L2004[18:33:17] <Kilobyte> :D
L2005[18:33:39] <Kilobyte> v^: i also
allow access to the java lib :P
L2006[18:33:51] <v^> luajava?
L2007[18:33:56] <Kilobyte> i assume that
allows me to do java stuff from lua
L2008[18:34:09] <Kilobyte> v^: pretty
much i guess, but for jnlua
L2010[18:34:20] <v^> jnlua .-.
L2011[18:35:30] <Sangar> meh, will prob
have to recompile the lib for linux then... you could give that a
try for now. but tbh i'm starting to think it'd be better to have
this in an 'unsafe' oc fork, that people who actually want to do
crazy stuff like that can use instead >_>
L2013[18:36:03] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L2015[18:36:11] <^v> Ping reply from v^
0.11s
L2016[18:36:19] <Sangar> as long as it's
kept up-to-date with the master it'd still be network compatible
after all
L2017[18:36:29] <^v> Ping reply from
JoshTheEnder 18.42s
L2018[18:36:33] <v^> ^ lolslow
L2019[18:36:37] <JoshTheEnder> Wow
L2020[18:37:02] <Kilobyte> Sangar: hmmm
or ship instructions how to compile the libs unsafe for
yourself
L2021[18:37:12] <JoshTheEnder> Yeah,
mobile signal is crap
L2022[18:37:32] <Kilobyte> .p
L2023[18:37:32] <^v> Ping reply from
Kilobyte 0.17s
L2024[18:37:38] <JoshTheEnder> .p
L2025[18:37:38] <^v> Ping reply from
JoshTheEnder 0.83s
L2026[18:37:44] <v^> cba compile *
java
L2027[18:37:49] <JoshTheEnder> Thats
better
L2028[18:37:56] <Kilobyte> Sangar: what
do you think on that one?
L2029[18:38:03] <Sangar> Kilobyte, if
it's just for yourself the oc-natives repo *should* work.
L2030[18:38:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ah
hmm
L2031[18:38:23] <Sangar> i.e. just gradle
x64NativesShared e.g.
L2032[18:38:29] <JoshTheEnder> Meh will
be back on pc in a bit
L2033[18:38:49] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i
would have to change them to allow dynamic loading though
L2034[18:38:50] <Sangar> (x64NaSh
:P)
L2035[18:38:57] <Kilobyte> looked through
the header file and didn't fine
L2036[18:38:59] <Kilobyte> *find
L2037[18:39:49] <Sangar> i'm not using
that to build them because that pulls c++ libs and shit for some
reason, and my custom compile script probably derped what v
mentioned (make linux vs posix)
L2038[18:40:21] <Sangar> so it's quite
possible that'd work without the need to change anything
L2039[18:40:28] <Kilobyte> Sangar: well,
lets try
L2040[18:40:35] <Kilobyte> how to run the
build script?
L2041[18:40:44] <Sangar> gradlew
x64NaSh
L2042[18:40:48] <Sangar> or -w
L2043[18:41:31] <v^> gradlew
dontbreakpls
L2044[18:41:32] <Kilobyte> now to find
the build script and fix
L2045[18:41:45] <v^> <gradle> no
fuk u im breaking
L2047[18:42:05] <Kilobyte> Sangar: fun
fact, steam wiped the home dir of a friend
L2048[18:42:06] <v^> still cant compile
x86 libs
L2049[18:42:17] <v^> Kilobyte, ._.
L2050[18:42:30] <Oddstr13> q_q
L2051[18:42:38] <v^> ._______.
L2052[18:42:39] <Sangar> v gradle x86NaSh
not working?
L2053[18:42:54] <Sangar> Kilobyte, how is
that fun? :X
L2054[18:43:00] <Oddstr13> apparently i
need to go visit Cruor, just to take away the alcohol q_q
L2055[18:43:03] <v^> i probably need to
install some i386 libs
L2056[18:43:08] <Kilobyte> actually
yeah
L2057[18:43:25] <v^> Kilobyte,
lawsuit!
L2058[18:43:33] <Oddstr13> Cruor is drunk
q_q
L2059[18:43:47] <v^> Oddstr13, gimme his
number
L2060[18:43:54] <v^> i will text him
ascii art
L2061[18:44:02] <v^> of potatoes
L2062[18:45:02] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i see
no way to set that option in the gradle file D:
L2064[18:45:59] <Kilobyte> Sangar: well,
how would i change such a setting?
L2065[18:46:13] *
Kilobyte wished he just had a unix makefile
L2066[18:46:17] <Sangar> what exactly are
you trying to do?
L2067[18:46:30] <Kilobyte> trying to
enable dynamic loading
L2068[18:46:43] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw,
should i just pr my current code?
L2069[18:46:51] <Kilobyte> it works and
should be bug free
L2070[18:49:00] <Sangar> hrm. well, you
can, and if it's just for reference. i'll sleep on it of whether
i'd rather keep that in a fork or not. too tired to trust myself
making a decision i won't curse myself for later right now
>_>
L2071[18:49:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
sure
L2072[18:49:35] <Kilobyte> if it shall be
a fork i can provide that
L2073[18:49:56] <Sangar> aye
L2074[18:51:21] <Sangar> also i should
probably consider pushing 1.3.2 before getting started on the
component bus / assembler rework sutff :P
L2075[18:53:52] <v^> component..
bus
L2076[18:54:20] <v^> "You have
joined too many channels"
L2077[18:54:54] <Caitlyn> You've joined
50 channels? :/
L2079[18:55:18] <v^> ill have to connect
twice
L2080[18:55:19] <v^> wont i
L2081[18:55:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: whats
luaj equivalent of LuaStateFactory
L2082[18:55:34] <Kilobyte> v^: or drop
some channels
L2083[18:55:39] <robhol> things
breaking.
L2084[18:55:46] <robhol> that's luaj's
equivalent for everything
L2085[18:55:49] *
robhol hides
L2086[18:55:56] <Kilobyte> i agree
L2087[18:56:04] <Sangar> Kilobyte, none,
it's directly in the luajarch's init iirc
L2088[18:59:22] <Kilobyte> Sangar: umm...
i don't see you removing require
L2089[18:59:26] <Kilobyte> in luaj
L2090[18:59:36] <v^> Kilobyte, or
not
L2091[19:00:39] <Sangar> good point
:P
L2092[19:01:47] <Sangar> as well as os.
because who cares about luaj anyway!
L2093[19:04:31] <v^> wait, cant we call
standard C functions in java
L2094[19:05:31] <JoshTheEnder> i'm
back
L2096[19:05:40] <v^> you are JTE
L2097[19:05:41] <v^> dont lie
L2098[19:06:01] *
JoshTheEnder lies to v^
L2099[19:08:21] ***
alekso56_off is now known as alekso56
L2100[19:09:45] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i'm
gonna fix that in my pr :P
L2101[19:09:57] <v^> so the total balance
of ^vDoge is 100,791
L2102[19:10:22] <gamax92> v^: uhh ...
like "native" iirc
L2103[19:10:45] <gamax92> $conv
100791
L2104[19:10:46] <^vDoge> gamax92, Ɖ100791
= $22.7492 €16.8951 £13.3434
L2105[19:11:52] <Sangar> Kilobyte, but i
already fixed it locally :P think of the conflicts!
L2106[19:12:20] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
well... i changed the code there, because its needed to do that
sandbox stuff
L2107[19:12:30] <Kilobyte> so i just did
it on the go
L2108[19:13:05] <Sangar> yeah. well, it's
just two lines anyway :P
L2109[19:13:25] <asie> hi
L2110[19:13:33] <gamax92> hi
L2111[19:13:52] <gamax92> How may we
serve you today?
L2112[19:13:56] <gamax92> Fried?
Grilled?
L2113[19:14:24] <JoshTheEnder> what's the
current redirect chain of blame?
L2114[19:14:36] <Kilobyte> Sangar ->
me -> Vex -> ???
L2115[19:14:41] <Vexatos> gamax
L2116[19:14:49] <Vexatos> And he does to
Josh
L2117[19:14:50] <gamax92> Sangar -> me
-> Vex -> JTE -> Ir7_o
L2118[19:14:54] <gamax92> oops
L2119[19:15:00] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92,
no, i changed it to LordFokas|off
L2120[19:15:02] <gamax92> oh
L2121[19:15:03] <Vexatos> You forgot
yourself as a relay
L2122[19:15:05] <gamax92> yeah
L2123[19:15:09] <Vexatos> So
L2124[19:15:17] <gamax92> well i kinda
just copied kilo
L2125[19:15:27] <Vexatos> Sangar ->
Kilo -> Me -> gamax -> Josh -> LordFokas
L2126[19:15:39] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw,
when cloning OC-Natives it didn't clone the submodules D:
L2127[19:15:42] <gamax92> and unless he's
redirected it ends at LF
L2128[19:15:53] ***
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L2129[19:15:53] <Sangar> Kilobyte, use
the power of '--recursive' next time
L2130[19:15:58] <JoshTheEnder> gamax92,
well, LF hasnt been on to redirect it
L2131[19:15:58] <Kilobyte> oups...
L2132[19:16:13] <JoshTheEnder> so
currently the terminator is LordFokas :P
L2133[19:16:34] <gamax92> Gamax92Bot:
changeBlameRedirect Vexatos
L2134[19:16:35] <gamax92> Redirect
changed.
L2135[19:17:36] <gamax92> ;)
L2136[19:18:36] <gamax92> Sangar ->
Kilo -> Vex -> me -> Vex -> me -> Vex -> me ->
Vex -> me -> Vex -> me -> Vex -> me -> Vex ->
me -> Vex -> me -> Vex -> me -> Vex -> me ->
Vex -> Stack Overflow
L2137[19:19:03] <Techokami> damn you
Stack Overflow, you broke all the things
L2138[19:19:32] <gamax92> what if the
stack was like a glass of milk
L2139[19:19:42] <gamax92> and it
overflowing meant all of your code goes soggy
L2140[19:20:37] <istasi> :|
L2141[19:22:06] <Kilobyte> Sangar: meh,
cannot find the setting for jnlua
L2142[19:22:28] <Vexatos> gamax92: Would
be an awesome programming language
L2143[19:22:31] <Kilobyte> Sangar: wait,
is the lib statically or dynamically linked
L2144[19:22:33] <Vexatos> You need to be
REALLY careful
L2145[19:22:36] <Vexatos> or your code
goes BOOM
L2146[19:22:47] ***
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L2147[19:22:56] *
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L2148[19:22:59] <gamax92> Memory: [Stack
][Random piece of code]
L2149[19:23:08] <Vexatos> Exactly
L2150[19:23:17] <Vexatos> [Stack ]om
piece of code]
L2151[19:23:19] <gamax92> Memory: [Stack
being full of stuf]ce of code]
L2152[19:23:41] <Vexatos> Really need to
call the trololua
L2153[19:23:43] <Vexatos> Just
because
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L2155[19:24:19] <Sangar> Kilobyte, dunno
for the gradle script actually, i'm linking it statically to keep
the deps to pretty much libc only.
L2156[19:25:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: since
there is no lua lib in there it must use your system lua
runtime
L2157[19:25:21] <Kilobyte> aka it should
allow dynamic loading
L2158[19:27:09] <Sangar> eris = lua
L2159[19:27:24] <Kilobyte> oh
L2160[19:27:26] <Kilobyte> derrrrp
L2161[19:28:28] <Kilobyte>
loadlib.c:#define DLMSG "dynamic libraries not enabled; check
your Lua installation"
L2162[19:28:28] <Caitlyn> ugh suddenly
computer won't accept input... and doesn't detect new components..
but doesn't show it's crashed
L2163[19:28:29] <Kilobyte> hah
L2164[19:29:09] <Vexatos> Sangar: eris ~=
lua
L2165[19:29:22] <Vexatos> But Eris is one
implementation of Lua xD
L2166[19:29:53] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ah, i
need to set LUA_USE_DLOPEN
L2167[19:29:58] <Kilobyte> as compiler
flag
L2168[19:30:18] <Caitlyn> Also can't use
the power button.. :/
L2169[19:30:24] <gamax92> Eris >
lua
L2170[19:30:34] <Kilobyte> #if
defined(LUA_USE_LINUX)
L2171[19:30:34] <Vexatos> Yea
L2172[19:30:34] <Kilobyte> #define
LUA_USE_POSIX
L2173[19:30:34] <Kilobyte> #define
LUA_USE_DLOPEN
L2174[19:30:36] <gamax92> However
L2175[19:30:39] <gamax92> Sire >
Eris
L2176[19:30:39] <Vexatos> Eris contains
lua
L2177[19:33:23] <Sangar> well, yes. it
was enough to get the point across and i'm lazy, what can i say
:P
L2178[19:34:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: just
hacked it into the config file to force LUA_USE_LINUX lol... for a
local fix
L2179[19:34:23] <Kilobyte> gonna see if
that works
L2180[19:34:25] <gamax92> Eris was like,
om nom nom linux
L2181[19:34:32] <gamax92> and then no
more linux
L2182[19:34:45] <Kilobyte> MFW
L2183[19:35:02] <Kilobyte>
<Kommandozeile>:0:0: Anmerkung: dies ist die Stelle der
vorherigen Definition
L2184[19:35:02] <Kilobyte>
/mnt/btrfs/stephan/coding/c++/OC-Natives/jnlua/jnlua/src/main/c/jnlua.c:9:17:
schwerwiegender Fehler: jni.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht
gefunden
L2185[19:35:02] <Kilobyte> #include
<jni.h>
L2186[19:35:05] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
^
L2187[19:35:07] <Kilobyte> fuck
this
L2188[19:35:14] <Daiyousei> ez
L2189[19:35:33] <Daiyousei> copy jni.h to
include dir in build dir 0r somehimg
L2190[19:35:35] <gamax92> Sangar: you
just pushed something!
L2191[19:35:53] <Kilobyte> Daiyousei:
from where?
L2192[19:35:55] <Sangar> Kilobyte, adjust
the paths in build.gradle to the java includes
L2193[19:36:03] <Kilobyte> ...
L2194[19:36:05] <Daiyousei> Kilobyte:
trace down jdk folder
L2195[19:36:07] <Daiyousei> ..
L2196[19:36:09] <Caitlyn> I had *just*
downloaded 556 lol
L2197[19:36:26] <Daiyousei> and you
should easily be able to find it
L2198[19:36:28] <Sangar> gamax92, orly?
:P
L2199[19:36:49] <v^> <sniffer> Do
you can create config eggdrop
L2200[19:36:57] <v^>
<sniffer> my speak english is bad
L2201[19:36:57] <v^>
<sniffer> can you create for me
L2202[19:36:57] <v^>
<sniffer> i give you 30$
L2203[19:37:06] <v^> accept
challenge?
L2204[19:37:17] ***
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L2205[19:37:21] <tobaton> mine
L2206[19:37:23] ***
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L2207[19:37:32] <Daiyousei> Loleasy
L2208[19:37:54] <Caitlyn> Sangar, I have
a computer that seems to lock up, it doesn't crash, the analyzer
reports no problems, but I can't power it off, it no longer
responds to keyboard, and doesn't detect new components. Ever had
that issue? :p
L2209[19:38:08] *
Daiyousei uas configured several eggdrops before
L2210[19:38:11] <Daiyousei> has*
L2211[19:38:28] <Kilobyte> Daiyousei: or
i just copy it from jdk to /usr/include
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L2213[19:38:42] <Daiyousei> Kilobyte:
ya
L2214[19:38:47] <Sangar> Caitlyn, hmm,
no. does the cursor still blink? does breaking/replacing the
screen/keyboard fix it? anything in the log?
L2215[19:39:12] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i
think its cool that cursor blinking is implemented lua side
L2216[19:39:12] <Kilobyte> :P
L2217[19:39:17] <Caitlyn> IDK.. it's
running a startup program waiting for user input. No, and No.
L2218[19:39:33] <Sangar> hm
L2219[19:39:55] <Sangar> ever happened
without that particular startup program?
L2220[19:40:11] <Caitlyn> lemme test,
it's a pretty simple program though
L2221[19:40:41] <Kilobyte> Sangar: umm it
can't find jni_md.h... and thats not in my jdk dir
L2222[19:41:26] <Sangar> Caitlyn,
pastebin?
L2224[19:41:41] <Sangar> Kilobyte, huh,
then idk :/
L2225[19:42:17] <Sangar> Caitlyn, hmm,
and it's at the io.read() where it stops?
L2226[19:42:39] <Caitlyn> Yeah it prints
tye Type Open/Close then hangs
L2227[19:42:49] <Caitlyn> I restarted the
server and it seems to have fixed it for now..
L2229[19:43:11] <Sangar> drive:
carriage?
L2230[19:43:24] <Caitlyn> yeah RiM
L2231[19:43:35] <Sangar> *might* be
related to that then, idk.
L2232[19:43:55] <Sangar> i'll have a look
at rim... over the weekend maybe.
L2233[19:44:40] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i am
now trying to just compile it with everything default
L2234[19:44:48] <Sangar> k
L2236[19:45:19] <Sangar> hahaha
L2237[19:45:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: its
libnatives.so, right?
L2238[19:46:04] <Sangar> Kilobyte, uh,
probably?
L2239[19:46:29] <v^> aaand i made the
config
L2241[19:46:32] <v^> aaaand he timed
out
L2242[19:46:37] <v^> aaaaaaaand he diddnt
reconnect
L2243[19:46:43] <Sangar> nice
L2244[19:46:50] <v^> aaaaaaaaaaand i
could have got $30 from some random person
L2246[19:47:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw,
OC has one issue with require()
L2247[19:47:33] <Kilobyte> it should also
have this in its search path:
L2248[19:47:54] <Kilobyte>
/lib/?/init.lua;/usr/lib/?/init.lua
L2249[19:48:07] <Kilobyte> since normal
lua does same
L2250[19:48:53] <vifino> v^: ur
mandlebrot thingie no work
L2251[19:49:02] <vifino> module oci not
found
L2252[19:49:04] <vifino> :<
L2253[19:49:20] <v^> vifino, becuase it
requires oci
L2255[19:49:27] <vifino> howto
install
L2256[19:49:56] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yell
at Wobbo when you see him
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L2258[19:50:52] <vifino> v^: howto.
install.
L2259[19:51:19] <v^> vifino, rm *
L2260[19:51:26] <vifino> v^: pls
L2261[19:51:57] <v^> vifino
L2262[19:52:03] <v^> copy oci.lua
L2263[19:52:06] <v^> somewhere
L2264[19:52:09] <v^> then it will
load
L2265[19:52:14] <v^> you facking
genius
L2266[19:52:27] <vifino> v^: Where should
I copy it?
L2267[19:52:41] <v^> i dont fucking know,
lib? in the same directory as mandlebrot?
L2269[19:52:56] <vifino> k
L2270[19:53:47] <Kilobyte> Sangar: lol
why?
L2271[19:53:48] <vifino> its
werking!
L2272[19:53:49] <vifino> yay
L2273[19:53:59] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
because the package lib is his :P
L2274[19:54:12] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i'll
pr in a fix later lol
L2275[19:56:45] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
actually, i might make a cake defense themed map with OC :P
L2276[19:57:29] <Sangar> :P
L2277[19:57:59] *
Kilobyte will have to write a mod for mapmakers though
L2278[19:58:08] <Kilobyte> that allows
all kinda of cool things
L2279[19:58:42] <Kilobyte> like an item
that i can remotely interact with using a computer
L2281[19:59:17] <v^> forgot to check
time
L2282[19:59:20] <v^> i gtg
L2283[19:59:35] <v^> working on
ircd
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L2285[20:01:40] <Kilobyte> Sangar: for
some reason persistance seems broken for me :O
L2286[20:02:04] <Kilobyte> all the past
times each time i join the world, all computers reboot
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L2288[20:03:38] <Kilobyte> Sangar: also,
apperently you are building the natives wrong :P because in my self
compiled ones dynamic loading workd
L2289[20:03:53] <Kilobyte> well...
mostly...
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L2292[20:09:00] <Kilobyte> that seems to
be a fault on lnotifys side though
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L2294[20:10:35] <v^> Kilobyte, hah
L2295[20:10:41] <v^> incompatable
library
L2296[20:10:50] <Kilobyte> prob
L2297[20:11:05] <v^> or wait
L2298[20:11:10] <v^> no, lua 5.2 has
pushnumber
L2299[20:11:12] <Sangar> Kilobyte,
persistence being broken will probably due to changing globals /
permanent values. checked the log?
L2300[20:11:36] <Kilobyte> nope,
should
L2301[20:11:41] <v^> maby its because
symbols are proxied when compiled
L2302[20:11:42] <Kilobyte> had to restart
window manager
L2303[20:11:55] <v^> you need an actual
liblua library without jnlua?
L2304[20:12:07] <v^> /gtg4real
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L2307[20:13:50] <Cruor> sir Caitlyn
sir
L2308[20:14:04] <Cruor> did you survive
my program? .-.
L2309[20:14:15] <Caitlyn> I've not tested
it yet, just got my AE up
L2310[20:14:30] <Caitlyn> Like the bank
you see there, is it.
L2311[20:15:03] <Kilobyte> v^: the lua
lib is provided by eris
L2312[20:15:09] <Caitlyn> I'll be trying
it in a bit though.
L2313[20:15:19] <Cruor> <3 :p
L2314[20:15:39] <Cruor> its close to
being release worthy :p
L2315[20:15:49] <Cruor> would be nice
with some feedback on it as it is :p
L2316[20:15:50] <Kilobyte> v^: also, it
is broken on normal lua too
L2317[20:15:54] <Kilobyte> just different
error
L2319[20:16:06] <v^> okey .-.
L2320[20:16:10] <Kilobyte> error loading
module 'notify' from file '/usr/lib/lua/5.2/notify.so':
L2321[20:16:10] <Kilobyte>
/usr/lib/lua/5.2/notify.so: undefined symbol: lua_tointeger
L2322[20:16:11] <v^> /gtg5real
L2323[20:17:39] <Caitlyn> Cruor, I'll be
testing it... as soon as I reinstall OpenP... lolol
L2324[20:17:50] <Cruor> XD
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L2328[20:26:57] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i
found a new way what to do if i wanna watch a video without closing
intellij
L2329[20:27:05] <Kilobyte> pkill -STOP
java
L2330[20:27:46] <Kilobyte> basicly tells
the kernel: don't give java any time slices anymore
L2331[20:28:08] <Kilobyte> pkill -CONT
java returns it back to normal
L2332[20:29:22] <Sangar> :>
L2333[20:30:33] <Kilobyte> thats why i
love linux :P
L2334[20:31:05] <gamax92> Kilobyte: well
... theres also cpu limit
L2335[20:31:11] <Kilobyte> meh
L2336[20:31:22] <gamax92> which does STOP
and CONT to maintain a percentage of cpu usage
L2337[20:31:22] <Kilobyte> if i use it i
want it to run fast
L2338[20:31:46] <Kilobyte> but if its
just in background doing nothing i can just STOP it
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L2340[20:33:00] <SoulEraser> hey
L2341[20:33:04] <gamax92> Hello
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L2343[20:33:30] <SoulEraser> could
someone enlighten me about the usage of the irc.lua app inside the
mod? :)
L2344[20:33:38] *
gamax92 pokes Sangar
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L2347[20:33:54] <Kilobyte> SoulEraser:
should be self explaining :P
L2348[20:34:05] <Kilobyte> just run it
and it tells you how to use
L2349[20:34:25] <SoulEraser> xD I might
have asked the wrong question, I guess what I mean is, how do I
find a specific channel's server and port?
L2350[20:34:45] <SoulEraser> pretty new
to using irc's
L2351[20:34:58] <Kilobyte> basicly there
are quite a few servers
L2352[20:35:03] <Kilobyte> most minecraft
stuff is on esper
L2353[20:35:11] <SoulEraser> like this
one, right?
L2354[20:35:18] <Kilobyte> esper has
irc.esper.net as hostname and 6667 as port
L2355[20:35:26] <SoulEraser> ah
L2356[20:35:53] <Kilobyte> to join a
channel, type /join #channel
L2357[20:35:59] <Kilobyte> for example
/join #oc
L2358[20:36:29] <SoulEraser> mhmm, thanks
:)
L2359[20:36:46] <Kilobyte> np
L2360[20:36:57] <SoulEraser> still amazes
me how I can never get tired of this game
L2361[20:38:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: umm i
feel like i fucked up
L2362[20:38:09] <Kilobyte> 2014-07-23
22:37:37 [Warnung] [OpenComputers] Could not unpersist
computer.
L2363[20:38:09] <Kilobyte>
com.naef.jnlua.LuaRuntimeException: bad permanent value (no
value)
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L2365[20:40:15] <Sangar> Kilobyte, is
that for a world you saved with the new lib?
L2366[20:40:28] <Kilobyte> good
question
L2367[20:40:35] <Kilobyte> yes it
is
L2368[20:40:40] <Kilobyte> actually
L2369[20:40:42] <Kilobyte> hmm
L2370[20:40:57] <Kilobyte> it might not
be because i had to kill my pc
L2371[20:41:17] <Kilobyte> also,
minecraft seems even slower
L2372[20:41:23] <Kilobyte> loading my
world took 3 mins
L2373[20:41:28] <Kilobyte> superflat
world
L2374[20:41:35] <Sangar> wow
L2375[20:41:53] <Kilobyte> thats insane
even for me
L2376[20:41:59] <Kilobyte> normally its
like 30 seconds
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L2378[20:42:09] <Kilobyte> when intellij
is running
L2379[20:42:53] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ONE
FUCKING WEEK D:
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L2382[20:42:58] <Kilobyte> then i finally
get my new pc
L2383[20:43:36] <Kilobyte> well, first
parts of it
L2384[20:43:46] <ping> .p
L2385[20:43:52] <^v> Ping reply from ping
5.54s
L2386[20:43:55] <Kilobyte> .p
L2387[20:43:55] <^v> Ping reply from
Kilobyte 0.17s
L2388[20:43:58] <Kilobyte> .p
L2389[20:43:59] <^v> Ping reply from
Kilobyte 0.19s
L2390[20:44:02] <Kilobyte> heh
L2391[20:44:11] <Kilobyte> .p
--help
L2392[20:44:12] <^v> Kilobyte, No such
user
L2393[20:44:14] <Kilobyte> ...
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L2396[20:44:37] <Kilobyte> .help p
L2397[20:44:38] <^v> Kilobyte, Not found.
did you want "tcp"?
L2398[20:44:41] <Kilobyte> .help
ping
L2400[20:44:46] <Kilobyte> ...
L2401[20:45:02] <Kilobyte> v^: can you
add something like .p --count 10
L2402[20:45:05] <ping> no
L2403[20:45:11] <ping> thats spamming
.-.
L2404[20:45:24] <Sangar> Kilobyte, just
had a look over the pr'ed files, and i don't see anything obvious
that'd cause your error
L2405[20:45:25] <Kilobyte> oh right...
forgot its a CTCP
L2406[20:45:37] <Sangar> so... no idea
:/
L2407[20:45:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: woo 2
fps at title screen
L2408[20:45:48] <istasi> .w
computer
L2410[20:46:14] <gamax92> my golden new
stalk Sangar on github is not being used since Sangar is not
pushing commits
L2411[20:46:33] <Sangar> your what?
L2412[20:46:33] <istasi> mmh,
getBootAddress is missing from wiki
L2413[20:47:13] <Kilobyte> Sangar: here
an idea in case we both become insane
L2414[20:47:24] <Sangar> istasi, oh,
right
L2415[20:47:34] <JoshTheEnder|GModding>
.p
L2416[20:47:35] <^v> Ping reply from
JoshTheEnder|GModding 0.19s
L2417[20:47:38] <Kilobyte> a statically
typed scala inspired lang that compiles to lua
L2418[20:47:58] <gamax92> >in case we
both become insane
L2419[20:48:06] <gamax92> so at this
point you are already insane
L2420[20:48:11] <gamax92> and then you
want to write a language
L2421[20:48:32] <Kilobyte> write a
language?
L2422[20:48:38] <Kilobyte> you rather
mean design
L2423[20:48:47] <gamax92> well yeah
L2424[20:50:10] <gamax92> :O no internet
api documentation
L2425[20:50:19] <Kilobyte> Sangar: issue
persists after opening world, closing it and opening it again
L2426[20:50:58] <Kilobyte> happened
before i used my custom eris as well
L2428[20:51:21] <Kilobyte> i thought it
was because i fiddled with the libs there though
L2429[20:51:39] <Sangar> Kilobyte, wait,
so in the normal dev builds?
L2430[20:51:39] <gamax92> Oddstr13:
uwot
L2431[20:51:52] <Sangar> or after your
sandbox changes?
L2432[20:52:05] <Kilobyte> Sangar: only
saw it after sandbox changes
L2433[20:52:18] <Kilobyte> might have
been before though
L2434[20:52:25] *
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L2436[20:52:28] <Sangar> ah, ok. yeah.
well that's kind of what i'd expected to be the cause anyway.
L2437[20:52:33] <Oddstr13> gamax92:
statues :P
L2438[20:52:44] <Sangar> since that's
what would cause the perm val tables to change.
L2439[20:52:53] <Sangar> but not sure
what exactly it is that corrupts it.
L2440[20:53:24] <Kilobyte> lets retry
without saved state
L2441[20:55:10] <Oddstr13> ...yea
L2442[20:55:11] <Oddstr13>
java.io.UTFDataFormatException: encoded string too long: 65649
bytes
L2443[20:55:28] <Sangar> Oddstr13, fixed
in latest devbuilds
L2444[20:55:35] <Oddstr13> ^^
L2445[20:55:40] <Oddstr13> still crashed
me tho :P
L2446[20:55:51] <Oddstr13> just wanted to
see what happend xD
L2447[20:55:55] <Sangar> heh
L2448[20:57:22] <Cruor> can OC use
commandblocks?
L2449[20:57:39] <Kilobyte> yes
L2450[20:57:52] <Kilobyte> just install
opencomponents
L2451[20:58:02] <Kilobyte> and use an
adapter block
L2452[20:58:09] <Cruor> what can it do
with them >_<
L2453[20:58:25] <Kilobyte> change command
and run commands directly afaik
L2454[20:58:34] <Cruor> bleh, same as CC
then
L2455[20:58:52] <Kilobyte> iirc cc can
only change command (and run the current one)
L2456[20:59:02] <Cruor> it can run
directly
L2457[20:59:10] <Kilobyte> ah, so thats
new
L2458[20:59:19] <Cruor> nope :p
L2459[20:59:32] <Kilobyte> new == new
since i stopped caring about cc
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L2461[20:59:40] <Cruor> it was always
there :p
L2462[20:59:46] <Kilobyte> huh?
L2463[20:59:56] <Kilobyte> didn't see it
in docs
L2464[21:00:01] ***
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L2465[21:00:18] <vifino> good =
"yes" if lang=="ruby"
L2466[21:00:19] <vifino> <3
L2467[21:00:33] <Kilobyte> ^
L2468[21:00:42] <vifino> ^^
L2469[21:00:50] <Kilobyte> even though i
gotta bitch at ur code conventions
L2470[21:00:56] <vifino> shush
L2471[21:00:56] <Kilobyte> its lang ==
"ruby"
L2472[21:01:02] <Cruor> ^
L2473[21:01:04] <Kilobyte> or better lang
== :ruby :P
L2474[21:01:11] <Cruor> Kilobyte: i like
you .-.
L2475[21:01:11] <vifino> Kilobyte:
SHUSSSH
L2476[21:01:17] <Kilobyte> why use a
string if a symbol does the job
L2477[21:01:20] <vifino> q_q
L2478[21:01:29] <Cruor> you are the first
person that gives a damn about code conventions
L2479[21:01:39] *
Kilobyte points at sangar
L2480[21:01:43] <vifino> xD
L2481[21:02:11] <vifino> i dun caer what
style of coding you use, as long as you use tabs
L2482[21:02:12] <vifino> :3
L2483[21:02:19] <Kilobyte> hell no
L2484[21:02:23] <vifino> D:
L2485[21:02:25] <Sangar> burn him!
L2486[21:02:26] <vifino> tabs yo
L2487[21:02:28] <Kilobyte> 4 or 2 spaces
for indention
L2488[21:02:31] <vifino> pls no
L2489[21:02:34] <vifino> pls tab
L2490[21:02:35] <Kilobyte> 4 for most
stuff
L2491[21:02:36] <vifino> :<
L2492[21:02:38] <Kilobyte> 2 for
scala
L2493[21:02:46] <Kilobyte> and haml
L2494[21:02:46] <vifino> 2 or 4 for
ewwwwww
L2495[21:03:04] <Kilobyte> kilobyte.kick
vifino.balls
L2496[21:03:08] <Sangar> i'm off for
today, super tired and have to get out early tomorrow :/
L2497[21:03:10] <vifino> no u
L2498[21:03:12] <Sangar> see you tomorrow
o/
L2499[21:03:15] <Kilobyte> Sangar: sleep
well
L2500[21:03:15] *
vifino hugs Sangar
L2501[21:03:19] <Cruor> why 2 for scala?
o_O
L2502[21:03:19] <vifino> bai o/
L2503[21:03:32] <Kilobyte> Cruor:
conventions
L2504[21:03:45] <Cruor> good enough
reason for me :p
L2505[21:03:52] <Kilobyte> Sangar:
2014-07-23 23:02:10 [Warnung] [OpenComputers] Could not unpersist
computer.
L2506[21:03:53] <Kilobyte>
com.naef.jnlua.LuaRuntimeException: bad permanent value (no
value)
L2507[21:03:56] <vifino> Kilobyte: if you
want, you can code with me on my bot :>
L2508[21:04:07] *
Kilobyte gets tab2spaces ready
L2509[21:04:12] <Cruor> ^
L2510[21:04:12] <vifino> ._.
L2511[21:04:19] <Cruor> \t shouldnt
exist
L2512[21:04:27] <Kilobyte> $ which
tab2space
L2513[21:04:27] <Kilobyte>
/usr/bin/tab2space
L2514[21:04:30] <Kilobyte> good
L2515[21:04:37] <vifino> Cruor: you
shouldnt exist! D:
L2516[21:04:48] <Kilobyte> no personal
insults please
L2517[21:04:54] <vifino> xD
L2518[21:05:00] <Cruor> Kilobyte: your
mod is fat
L2519[21:05:05] <vifino> ..wat
L2520[21:05:07] <Kilobyte> my mod?
L2521[21:05:24] <vifino> does Kilobyte
even mod?
L2522[21:05:29] <Kilobyte> if you mean
ServurChat (which isn't released) yes, it even has natives
L2523[21:05:32] <Kilobyte> yes i do
L2524[21:05:36] <vifino> :o
L2525[21:05:37] <Kilobyte> but nothing
major
L2526[21:05:44] <Kilobyte> vifino: i am a
OC contributor
L2527[21:05:48] <vifino> Il
L2528[21:05:50] <vifino> *ik
L2529[21:05:59] <vifino> I kinda want to
contribute too
L2530[21:06:00] <Kilobyte> and i had a cc
addon
L2531[21:06:05] <Kilobyte> and i will
have an oc addon
L2532[21:06:08] <vifino> but java ==
"ewwwwwwwwwww"
L2533[21:06:10] <Kilobyte> > 1 to be
exact
L2534[21:06:14] <Kilobyte> vifino:
scala.
L2535[21:06:18] <Kilobyte> and OC is
scala
L2536[21:06:35] <Kilobyte> scala is like
java but fancier
L2537[21:06:43] <vifino> k
L2538[21:06:47] <vifino> less
ewwwww?
L2539[21:07:22] <Kilobyte> way less
L2540[21:07:27] <vifino> k
L2541[21:07:44] <Kilobyte> vifino: scala
also has stuff like .map
L2542[21:07:46] <vifino> Kilobyte: if you
want you can use spaces in your modules
L2543[21:07:50] <vifino> aka
L2544[21:07:54] <vifino> I wont
complain
L2546[21:08:26] <Kilobyte> yeah ik
L2547[21:08:30] <vifino> :>
L2548[21:08:57] <Kilobyte> vifino: a bit
of scala here:
L2549[21:09:53] <Kilobyte> val res = if
(what == Language.Scala) "woot" else
"bleh"
L2550[21:10:03] <vifino> ergh
L2551[21:10:20] <Kilobyte> you can split
that in > 1 line
L2552[21:10:49] <vifino> if scala has
fixed types...
L2553[21:10:52] <vifino> I rek it
L2554[21:11:03] <Kilobyte> fixed?
L2555[21:11:12] <ping> lets make a
language that compiles to lua
L2556[21:11:18] <vifino> q_q
L2557[21:11:20] <ping> that has bitwise
operators
L2558[21:11:27] <vifino> ping: dont let
it end like moonscript
L2559[21:11:29] <ping> that has C
types
L2560[21:11:35] <ping> vifino, no it will
be just like lua
L2561[21:11:41] <ping> exept syntax
changes
L2562[21:11:45] <vifino> k
L2563[21:11:48] <ping> that add
bitwise
L2564[21:11:59] <Kilobyte> vifino: scala
is a statically typed language, which makes debugging way
easier
L2565[21:12:04] <Cruor> Kilobyte: is it
hard to add custom commands? xd
L2566[21:12:05] <ping> and efficient
arrays
L2567[21:12:08] <Cruor> could a potato
like me do it
L2568[21:12:20] <Kilobyte> Cruor:
huh?
L2569[21:12:29] <Kilobyte> however, note
how i don't have to tell the compiler that res is a string. the
compiler usually can find that out on its own
L2570[21:12:30] <Kilobyte> :P
L2571[21:12:30] <Cruor> modding in them
commands
L2572[21:12:40] <ping> .>
derp=ffi.new("char[16]")
L2573[21:12:41] <^v> ping, nil
L2574[21:12:45] <Kilobyte> Cruor: i don't
get what you mean
L2575[21:12:48] <ping> <_>
L2576[21:12:55] <Cruor>
./helloworld
L2577[21:12:58] <Cruor> .-.
L2578[21:13:02] <gamax92> ping, Kilobyte:
can you edit ocdoc?
L2579[21:13:03] <Cruor> MC
>_<
L2580[21:13:10] <Kilobyte> gamax92:
no
L2581[21:13:14] <Oddstr13> Context: Cruor
wants to backport the /title command
L2582[21:13:15] <Kilobyte> Cruor: in
OC?
L2583[21:13:16] <Oddstr13> :P
L2584[21:13:24] <Cruor> what Odd
said
L2586[21:13:31] <gamax92> >_>
vhdl
L2587[21:14:04] <Kilobyte> thats why i
don't like hastebin
L2588[21:14:11] <vifino> Kilobyte: I
wanna code with you :<
L2589[21:14:12] <gamax92> Kilobyte: what
do you perfer then
L2590[21:14:19] <Kilobyte> gist
L2591[21:14:23] <gamax92> i don't like
gist
L2592[21:14:34] <Oddstr13> i prefer my
own :P
L2593[21:14:49] <Kilobyte> i once was
working on my own
L2594[21:14:58] <Kilobyte> ofc in
ruby
L2595[21:15:15] <Cruor> sir Oddstr13
sir
L2596[21:15:20] <Cruor> make me title in
1.6.4
L2597[21:15:35] <Kilobyte> ping: can you
fix one thing in that lang too?
L2598[21:15:50] <Kilobyte> and make a = b
= c as well as a += 1 working
L2599[21:15:54] <vifino> Kilobyte: can i
has Kilobyte as coder, coding with me
L2600[21:16:02] <Kilobyte> vifino: maybe
:P
L2601[21:16:07] <vifino> pls
L2602[21:16:08] <vifino> :>
L2603[21:16:13] <ping> Kilobyte,
probably
L2604[21:16:13] <Kilobyte> not now
though
L2606[21:16:25] <ping> change comments to
// too
L2607[21:16:27] <ping> >_>
L2608[21:16:31] <ping> so we can do
a--
L2609[21:17:31] <Kilobyte> heh
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L2611[21:17:53] <Kilobyte> vifino: fun
fact. scala has no real operators
L2612[21:18:08] <Kilobyte> like ruby a +
b is equal to a.+(b)
L2613[21:18:11] <vifino> Kilobyte: fun
fact: I need someone to code with
L2614[21:18:16] <vifino> .-.
L2615[21:18:23] <Cruor> Kilobyte: sounds
like Julia
L2616[21:18:32] <Cruor> a + b = +(a,
b)
L2617[21:18:43] <vifino> I get bored too
easily if i am coding alone
L2618[21:18:45] <Kilobyte> unlike ruby...
a do stuff is equal to a.do(stuff)
L2619[21:18:53] <Cruor> functions with
overloading and types everywhere
L2620[21:18:53] <Kilobyte> aka you can do
custom "operators"
L2621[21:19:13] <Kilobyte> i can also do
implicit type conversions
L2622[21:19:17] <Cruor> +(lhs::MyType,
rhs::MyType) = 42
L2623[21:19:21] <Oddstr13> i can make a
foobar operator?
L2624[21:19:29] <Kilobyte> Oddstr13: in
scala?
L2625[21:19:39] <Oddstr13> wait, did ruby
just drop the . and the ()s
L2626[21:19:40] <Cruor> foo `potato`
bar
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L2629[21:19:51] <Kilobyte> Cruor: that
would be haskell
L2630[21:19:57] <Cruor> ^
L2631[21:20:09] <Kilobyte> yes i know a
tiny bit haskell
L2632[21:20:27] <gamax92> Kilobyte: i
wrote a program to generate ocdoc's
L2633[21:20:36] <Kilobyte> gamax92:
:D
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L2635[21:20:41] <Dashkal> mmm, haskell
infix functions...
L2636[21:20:48] <Kilobyte> yep
L2637[21:20:55] <Dashkal> Relly wish I
had that in a sane way in Scala
L2638[21:20:55] <gamax92> Kilobyte:
however neither Sangar or Vex is here (i assume they can edit
wiki)
L2639[21:20:56] <Kilobyte> vifino: you
using haml?
L2640[21:20:57] <Dashkal> Really*
L2641[21:21:04] <vifino> Kilobyte:
what?
L2642[21:21:11] <vifino> Sounds like
ham.
L2643[21:21:15] <vifino> I like
ham.
L2644[21:21:22] <Kilobyte> vifino: haml
== erb, but fancier
L2645[21:21:28] <vifino> *irb
L2646[21:21:28] <Cruor> herb? o_O
L2647[21:21:38] <Kilobyte> vifino: no,
erb
L2648[21:21:41] <Kilobyte> embedded
ruby
L2649[21:21:41] <Cruor> herb
L2650[21:21:46] <vifino> wat da fuq is..
oh
L2651[21:22:02] <Kilobyte> haml == html
abstraction markup language
L2652[21:22:06] <Kilobyte> %h1 I am a
header
L2653[21:22:13] <vifino> q_q
L2654[21:22:19] <vifino> html is a
pain
L2655[21:22:28] <Kilobyte> haml
isn't
L2656[21:22:29] <vifino> why replace it
with something more painful
L2657[21:22:37] <Kilobyte> because its
less painful
L2658[21:22:49] <Kilobyte> %h1=
@title
L2659[21:22:49] <Kilobyte>
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L2661[21:22:55] <Kilobyte> in erb that
would be
L2662[21:23:06] <vifino> .-.+
L2663[21:23:07] <Kilobyte>
<title><%= @title %></title>
L2664[21:23:18] <vifino> can we just code
on my bot .-.
L2665[21:23:24] <gamax92> oh i can edit
wiki >_>
L2666[21:23:31] <Cruor> i should try ruby
some more
L2667[21:23:31] <Kilobyte> vifino: later
:P
L2668[21:23:36] <Cruor> it looks sane
enough
L2669[21:23:43] <vifino> Kilobyte: how
long later? :>
L2670[21:23:44] <Kilobyte> i am going to
do youtube later
L2671[21:23:46] <Kilobyte> err now
L2672[21:23:52] <Kilobyte> maybe in 1-2
h
L2673[21:23:57] <vifino> q_q
L2674[21:24:06] <Kilobyte> btw i lost the
game
L2675[21:24:06] <vifino> Kilobyte: you
foo, y u no sleep
L2676[21:24:18] <Kilobyte> its not even
midnight
L2677[21:24:31] <vifino> yea
L2678[21:24:36] <vifino> 30min left
L2679[21:24:38] <vifino> .-.
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L2682[21:25:35] <vifino> Kilobyte: Do you
foo need to watch yt?
L2683[21:25:39] <vifino> or can we
code?
L2684[21:25:43] <Kilobyte> i need
to
L2685[21:25:46] <vifino> :<
L2686[21:25:49] <Kilobyte> sorry :P
L2688[21:26:07] <Kilobyte> only gotta
watch one video
L2689[21:26:15] <vifino> -> 2h
L2690[21:26:17] <vifino> :/
L2691[21:26:32] <Kilobyte> 30 min
L2692[21:26:36] <Kilobyte> 25
actually
L2693[21:26:37] <vifino> \o/
L2694[21:27:25] <vifino> btw Kilobyte:
join #ocbots, if you havent already
L2695[21:27:26] <vifino> :3
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L2712[22:19:25] <gamax92> ds84182: you
there?
L2713[22:19:40] <ds84182> no
L2714[22:19:49] <gamax92> ds84182: hows
chunks
L2715[22:20:00] <ds84182> not working on
it right now
L2716[22:20:05] <gamax92> ds84182: but
how are they
L2717[22:20:13] <ds84182> notgood
L2718[22:20:17] <gamax92> ahh, thats
good
L2719[22:20:19] <ds84182> I don't feel
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L2721[22:28:14] <unullsclone> hey
all
L2722[22:28:26] <unullsclone> does OC
have socket?
L2723[22:30:06] <unullsclone> is anyone
even on right now?
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L2725[22:32:21] <unullsclone_>
mmkay
L2726[22:32:22] <unullsclone_>
weird
L2727[22:32:41] <unullsclone_> I may have
missed tons of info, net problems, sorry.
L2728[22:32:55] <unullsclone_> repeating
myself: does opencomputers have socket?
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L2730[22:38:23] <gamax92> unullsclone_:
yes
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L2732[22:38:39] <gamax92> is under the
internet api/component
L2733[22:38:51] <gamax92> .w
internet
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L2736[22:42:08] <unullsclone_> okay. I'm
in a bit of a strange situation right now: no access to
github
L2737[22:42:11] <unullsclone_> thanks
guys
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