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L1[00:04:42] <gamax92> gah, dinner
L2[00:11:33] <Techokami> oh man I love the MOTD feature in OpenOS :D
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L7[00:50:47] <v^> -- Generate a (probably) unique message ID
L8[00:50:47] <v^> -- We could do other things to guarantee uniqueness, but we really don't need to
L9[00:50:47] <v^> -- Store it to ensure we don't get our own messages back
L10[00:50:48] <v^> local nMessageID = math.random( 1, 2147483647 )
L11[00:50:51] <v^> dan you fucking retard
L12[00:51:01] <v^> oops, wrong channel
L13[00:54:28] <v^> also wrong code
L14[00:54:31] <v^> cannawt brain
L15[00:57:27] <gamax92> v^
L16[00:57:49] <v^> gamax92
L17[00:57:55] <gamax92> v^!
L18[01:00:02] <v^> gamax92, l-l why isnt the rednet thread working
L19[01:01:06] <gamax92> gamax92: ?
L20[01:01:22] <gamax92> uhh, gj gamax92 ...
L21[01:01:27] <gamax92> v^: what do you mena
L22[01:02:34] <v^> http://i.imgur.com/PaH4fk4.png
L23[01:02:42] <gamax92> .l gamax92 = 0/0 return gamax92 == gamax92
L24[01:02:42] <^v> gamax92, false
L25[01:03:11] <gamax92> v^: ooh
L26[01:04:20] *** Kodos|Mowing is now known as Kodos
L27[01:04:25] <v^> also cclite is constantly flashing on my taskbar
L28[01:04:54] <v^> i move into another worspace, and it comes up a few seconds later >_>
L29[01:05:07] <gamax92> v^: uhh ... not sure why it'd do that. I don't change the icon.
L30[01:06:36] <v^> oh
L31[01:06:39] * v^ facepalms
L32[01:06:51] <v^> gamax92, >_> can i easialy change the computer's ID?
L33[01:07:03] <gamax92> its in the api.lua
L34[01:07:14] <v^> and the save folder
L35[01:07:16] <gamax92> oh wait i just realized something about that.
L36[01:07:19] <gamax92> yeah, that
L37[01:07:46] <v^> open file .lock<id> in write mode
L38[01:08:09] <gamax92> v^: in the mean time you have to also change the mounts in main.lua
L39[01:08:18] <gamax92> I'll fix that in a bit
L40[01:08:28] <v^> if opening .lock1 fails, it tries .lock2
L41[01:08:29] <v^> etc
L42[01:08:39] <gamax92> huh?
L43[01:08:57] <v^> when you open cclite, i will make it open a dummy file in write mode
L44[01:09:00] <v^> >_>
L45[01:09:02] <gamax92> why
L46[01:09:13] <v^> two instances of cclite
L47[01:09:26] <v^> you can detect if another instance is running, and increase the id
L48[01:10:02] <gamax92> so then wouldn't you want to detect if lock1 exists, and then if it doesnt make it and use that as the id
L49[01:10:10] <gamax92> and on close, delete the file
L50[01:10:19] <v^> if it crashes, the lock files will persist
L51[01:10:37] <gamax92> well i don't get how opening it for writing will do anything
L52[01:10:44] <v^> io api >_>
L53[01:10:50] <gamax92> v^: linux
L54[01:11:08] <v^> you cant open a file in write mode thats already opened in write mode
L55[01:11:14] <v^> <_<
L56[01:11:25] <v^> gamax92, lolololo i got you to do the, stupid comma thing
L57[01:11:35] <gamax92> ?_?
L58[01:11:35] <JoshTheEnder> O_O
L59[01:11:38] <v^> fuck yo grammer
L60[01:11:47] <v^> gamax92, >_> y u no understand
L61[01:12:20] <v^> i want to be able to open multiple instances of cclite and each having their own id
L62[01:12:24] <v^> >_>
L63[01:12:41] <gamax92> v^: http://i.imgur.com/uY7DGYd.png
L64[01:13:15] <v^> shit.
L65[01:13:17] <v^> do we have lfs?
L66[01:13:23] <gamax92> no
L67[01:13:26] <v^> >_>
L68[01:13:45] <gamax92> Theres the io api, what every you can get with ffi, and love2d's api
L69[01:13:50] <v^> oh ffi
L70[01:14:16] <gamax92> except file system operations in ffi will not be the same on linux,windows, and possible mac.
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L72[01:16:28] <v^> >_>
L73[01:16:34] <v^> cant we lock files in C?
L74[01:17:11] <gamax92> i dunno sure, though I doubt it'll work properly for not windows.
L75[01:18:40] <Kenny> you should be able to use chmod to lock files in linux just like locking them in windows
L76[01:19:15] <gamax92> yeah but if it crashes, the chmod is still in effect
L77[01:19:17] <dmod_> Kenny u rejoined lol
L78[01:19:24] <gamax92> and therefor whatever the fuck v^ is saying fails.
L79[01:19:36] <Kenny> been here 2 days dmod :P
L80[01:19:48] <dmod_> Well I barely pay attention lol
L81[01:20:19] <Kenny> i always scroll thru the log to see what's been happening hehe
L82[01:21:28] <Kenny> i'm having a little fun trying to figure out how to open a GUI in MC now that ModLoader is gone from forge
L83[01:22:29] <Kenny> from what i see i think EntityPlayer.displayGuiScreen() is how to do it
L84[01:23:36] <dmod_> Did you ask in #minecraftforge?
L85[01:23:49] <Kenny> i don't do #mcf
L86[01:24:08] <Kenny> ask a question one time and got banned fromk the channel, screw Lex
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L88[01:42:35] <v^> <_>
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L90[01:42:52] <Raga_BuildCraftUrbanist> Hello there, fellow Minecrafters. :)
L91[01:42:53] <v^> gamax92, windows is special
L92[01:43:00] <v^> >_>
L93[01:43:05] <v^> i am too used to its filsystem
L94[01:44:06] <v^> we could use the derplock files as a pipe or something
L95[01:44:12] <v^> but watever
L96[01:44:23] <v^> easier just to ask the user for the id
L97[01:45:06] <gamax92> v^: touch ?:*\"\<\>\|\\
L98[01:45:21] <gamax92> featuring, characters windows doesn't like
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L102[01:53:41] <gamax92> :/
L103[01:53:59] <gamax92> I went to Term1 and its just full of something in the kernel crashing over and over
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L105[02:11:35] <LordFokas> SKS: found this and immediately thought of you: http://imgur.com/gallery/zSJwz
L106[02:12:01] <SKS> Hahaha, nice.
L107[02:12:23] <SKS> What would be a vegan cake though?
L108[02:13:17] *** Techokami is now known as Techokami|Off
L109[02:13:28] <SKS> Anyone seen Last Exile? I want to know whether it's worth watching
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L111[02:31:02] <v^> Kodos ...
L112[02:31:12] <Kodos> Wat
L113[02:31:19] <Kodos> I'm watching the most hilarious music video
L114[02:31:23] <dmod_> &dun
L115[02:31:24] <shadow_bot> dun dun dun
L116[02:31:24] <v^> 2^211000000
L117[02:31:27] <v^> you foker
L118[02:31:34] <Kodos> I was trying to check something x.x
L119[02:31:42] <gamax92> .calc 2^211000000
L120[02:31:43] <^v> gamax92, Time limit exeeded.
L121[02:31:45] <gamax92> k
L122[02:32:09] <gamax92> 2^211000000 == Time limit exeeded
L123[02:32:17] <v^> no
L124[02:32:17] <gamax92> v^: why have you never fixed exeeded
L125[02:32:34] <v^> for some reason bc is persisting
L126[02:32:36] <v^> >_<
L127[02:32:36] <gamax92> .tell v^ fix exeeded and this message I get on .tell
L128[02:32:36] <^v> gamax92, Will send the message over irc the next time they talk and then remove it from my list of message that i need to send to people who talk.
L129[02:32:50] <v^> gamax92, no fok u
L130[02:32:55] <Kenny> vegan cake wouild not use eggs for one thing
L131[02:33:00] <gamax92> .tell Kenny hi
L132[02:33:00] <^v> gamax92, Will send the message over irc the next time they talk and then remove it from my list of message that i need to send to people who talk.
L133[02:33:03] <dmod_> And message sent lol
L134[02:33:13] <dmod_> &slap gamax92
L135[02:33:13] * shadow_bot slaps gamax92 around a bit with a large trout.
L136[02:33:19] <gamax92> ;-;
L137[02:33:32] <gamax92> All I wanted to do was fix rendering problems (which I did)
L138[02:33:39] <Kenny> hey gamax
L139[02:33:46] <gamax92> but I also introduced another rendering problem, which is less severe than the last ones.
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L141[02:34:53] <gamax92> instead of the health and food and rei's going cyan and corrupto texture, now the hotbar turns dark if you're in third person.
L142[02:35:32] <Kenny> dmod, do you have any idea how to do a listbox in a gui?
L143[02:35:51] <dmod_> Honestly no id ask dark from ue
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L147[02:48:03] <SKS> So in WWI they carried planes on zepplins.
L148[02:48:11] <SKS> How awesome is that!? :D
L149[02:49:43] <gamax92> 7/10
L150[02:50:09] <SKS> I was going with 8/10 but close enough :P
L151[02:50:25] <SKS> This means that airborne aircraft carriers are fact, not fiction!
L152[02:50:26] <gamax92> 8000/10000
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L154[03:12:17] <binaryblade> anyone have a good reference for how block sides work?
L155[03:16:07] <v^> <_>
L156[03:16:29] <binaryblade> you seem to be constipated
L157[03:16:44] <v^> yeah, lyqys is terrible
L158[03:16:48] <v^> lyqyd*
L159[03:23:16] <gamax92> binaryblade: yes, assign random textures to block sides, figure out which is which, write to notepad
L160[03:26:38] <v^> >_> http://youtu.be/fSGMZdV4spY
L161[03:26:38] -Kibibyte- [v^] nsh is spammy | by thegyroid | 1m14s | -3m-41s ago | 1 views | Rated: -1.00/5.00
L162[03:28:05] <SKS> -1/5. wow
L163[03:28:19] <v^> Kilobyte, fix
L164[03:28:20] <SKS> I don't think many people could beat that
L165[03:28:37] <SKS> -3m-41s?
L166[03:28:54] <SKS> v^: Relax, it's a video from the future.
L167[03:31:02] <binaryblade> really, there is not deterministic way?
L168[03:31:29] <binaryblade> are sides relative to placement or world coords?
L169[03:32:13] <v^> what kind of sides
L170[03:32:32] <v^> the sides are exactly what they say >_>
L171[03:33:15] <v^> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/api-sides
L172[03:38:30] <gamax92> binaryblade: I kinda assumed you were talking about forge and I never remember the side numbers in forge.
L173[03:38:53] <binaryblade> there we go
L174[03:39:14] <binaryblade> that's awesome
L175[03:40:39] <gamax92> I've experience that side glitch with MFR cables Kodos's was mentioning.
L176[03:42:03] <Kodos> Hm?
L177[03:42:24] <gamax92> left, right = right, left
L178[03:42:45] <Kodos> It wasn't a glitch, sides are defined relative to the computer's facing
L179[03:42:51] <Kodos> My right is the computer's left if I'm looking at it
L180[03:42:54] <Kodos> Thus my right = sides.left
L181[03:43:10] <gamax92> :< y'd u say it waz glitch
L182[03:43:19] <Kodos> I did say that, and then Sanger corrected me
L183[03:43:24] <gamax92> ahh
L184[03:43:29] <Kodos> It even says it on
L185[03:43:30] <Kodos> .w redstone
L186[03:43:30] <^v> Kodos, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/component-redstone
L187[03:43:34] * gamax92 throws table at Sanger
L188[03:44:01] *** SKS is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L189[03:45:15] <gamax92> @ShadowKatStudios
L190[03:45:16] <gamax92> public void helpMe(MyFarm lacksSeeds) throws NoFoodException
L191[03:45:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Java?
L192[03:45:46] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll find some beans for you.
L193[03:46:01] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: wat i wanted you to plant the seeds in my famr.
L194[03:46:13] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L195[03:46:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Maybe when I have a sustainable farm
L196[03:47:23] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: its like, west of spawn. There's a ton of seeds in the chest at my farm.
L197[03:48:06] <ShadowKatStudios> lol I just realised
L198[03:48:11] <ShadowKatStudios> I have no idea where spawn is
L199[03:48:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Does the big dirt bridge/road link your and Potato's place or is it someone else?
L200[03:49:32] <gamax92> yes
L201[03:49:37] <gamax92> and spawn is at /spawn
L202[03:49:46] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll take the road
L203[03:49:52] <gamax92> lol
L204[03:49:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Wait... Have I been to your place..?
L205[03:50:01] <gamax92> maybe
L206[03:50:04] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll find out when I get there, I s'pose
L207[03:50:17] <Kodos> That reminds me, I need to grab Footpaths
L208[03:50:18] <gamax92> you know if you see a partially flat land and a base made with dirt walls
L209[03:53:49] <ShadowKatStudios> I /have/ been here!
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L211[03:59:08] <ShadowKatStudios> gamax92, done.
L212[03:59:24] <gamax92> :D
L213[04:00:31] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm just gonna chill in your base for a while, it's night time and I'm almost out of food, and I only have a stone sword and a KS battlesign
L214[04:00:39] <ShadowKatStudios> And screw armour.
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L217[04:03:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Last EXILE is looking good.
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L230[04:57:15] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDAlIWgzKMg
L231[04:57:15] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] Into The Labyrinth | by lolligerjoj1 | 5m11s | 66w5d ago | 113,936 views | Rated: 4.95/5.00
L232[04:57:18] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: ^
L233[04:58:36] <Alissa> [23:57] -Kibibyte:#oc- [gamax92] Into The Labyrinth | by lolligerjoj1 | 5m11s | 66w5d ago | 113,936 views | Rated: 4.95/5.00
L234[04:58:41] <Alissa> Entire channel NOTICE?
L235[04:59:11] <gamax92> yes because Kilobyte claims thats what the RFC says to do.
L236[04:59:12] <ShadowKatStudios> ..? What is this that I'm watching? :P
L237[05:00:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Loving the jumpy stereograph.
L238[05:01:02] * ShadowKatStudios wonders what would happen if one side of a stereographic video was out of sync with the other by a second
L239[05:01:10] <v^> the tones arent creepy enough
L240[05:01:15] <v^> ;-;
L241[05:01:18] <v^> plsfix
L242[05:01:43] <gamax92> I'm actually incapable of watching that video since ViewTube refuses to load on it.
L243[05:02:01] <v^> 60FPS download : http://amvnews.ru/index.php?go=Files&...
L244[05:02:06] <gamax92> yeah
L245[05:02:12] <v^> ._>
L246[05:02:15] <v^> >_>*
L247[05:02:15] <v^> http://amvnews.ru/index.php?go=Files&in=view&id=4941
L248[05:02:18] <v^> lol .ru
L249[05:02:19] <v^> gl
L250[05:02:52] <gamax92> fun fact, its in english
L251[05:03:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I have no idea what I just watched.
L252[05:04:33] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: but did you like it?
L253[05:04:53] <v^> i ddint have time
L254[05:04:55] <v^> to watch
L255[05:04:59] <ShadowKatStudios> It was good music, but the video didn't make much sense
L256[05:05:07] <v^> too busy locating the shitty tostring function in luaj
L257[05:06:05] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: well, could always watch the series.
L258[05:07:49] * ShadowKatStudios adds it to the list
L259[05:09:38] <v^> found it
L260[05:09:43] <v^> MORTALS
L261[05:09:48] <Kodos> I really like this Electrical Age mod
L262[05:09:48] <Bizzycola> no
L263[05:09:57] <v^> GAZE UPON LUAJ's INFINITE BEUTY
L264[05:09:59] <v^> I PRESENT
L265[05:10:08] <v^> LUAJ's NUMBER TO STRING FUNCTION!!!!
L266[05:10:09] <v^> http://hastebin.com/yadovihaki.java
L267[05:10:26] <v^> (its complete shit)
L268[05:11:13] <ShadowKatStudios> TIL Wikipedia has a category for dishes using potato.
L269[05:11:22] <gamax92> lol
L270[05:12:49] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1uSPqozJto
L271[05:12:49] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] lolz | by dsxchallenger | 1m34s | 41w6d ago | 368 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00
L272[05:13:25] <v^> i like how it converts to float
L273[05:13:33] <v^> extreme precision
L274[05:13:38] <gamax92> lol
L275[05:14:07] <v^> because surly tonumber(tostring(x))~=x
L276[05:14:27] <v^> gamax92, permission to implement bug into CCLite?
L277[05:14:35] <gamax92> no
L278[05:14:39] <v^> >_>
L279[05:14:41] <v^> why
L280[05:14:45] <v^> its CC behaviour
L281[05:14:48] <gamax92> theres already a severe precision problem with 32bit windows lua
L282[05:14:55] <v^> uhh what
L283[05:15:13] <gamax92> iirc tonumber kept truncating my number to 32bits
L284[05:15:37] <v^> LuaJIT supports doubles on 32 bit machines >_>
L285[05:16:39] <gamax92> I'mma just make a config flag that'll enable/disable tons of luaj compat things
L286[05:16:42] <gamax92> also yeah go ahead
L287[05:17:05] <v^> kk
L288[05:17:27] <v^> LuaJ <3
L289[05:17:50] <v^> silly you, that wasnt a heart
L290[05:17:52] <gamax92> v^: what if, you were to fix a bunch of said bugs, and then give it to Sangar
L291[05:18:10] <ShadowKatStudios> gamax92: Does that game lack collision detection?
L292[05:18:10] <gamax92> and then he'd have a less shitty fallback
L293[05:18:12] <v^> gamax92, said bugs arent in OC
L294[05:18:14] <v^> oh
L295[05:18:18] <v^> LuaJ fallback
L296[05:18:20] <v^> xD
L297[05:18:36] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: the emulator is not emulating certain instructions which are needed for collision
L298[05:18:40] <v^> gamax92, actually LuaJ 3 is better
L299[05:18:48] <v^> i dont think it is as shitty as 2
L300[05:18:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Hah, I see.
L301[05:19:03] <gamax92> v^: the tonumber("_",16) is still 8 in LuaJ 3
L302[05:19:05] <v^> ill look through the sauce eventually
L303[05:19:32] <v^> .l ("_"):byte()%16
L304[05:19:33] <^v> v^, 15
L305[05:19:35] <v^> >_>
L306[05:19:37] <v^> well idk
L307[05:19:52] <gamax92> iirc its because of ascii position
L308[05:20:10] <v^> hrm
L309[05:20:22] <ShadowKatStudios> .l ("_"):byte()
L310[05:20:22] <^v> ShadowKatStudios, 95
L311[05:20:33] <v^> .l (("_"):byte()+9)%16
L312[05:20:33] <^v> v^, 8
L313[05:20:35] <v^> there we go
L314[05:20:44] <v^> its because it offsets it at a certain range
L315[05:20:56] <v^> hacky math so there arent lookup tables
L316[05:21:27] <gamax92> seeing what values I have in my tonumber.
L317[05:22:23] <gamax92> this could probably be reduced, but this. str = str:gsub("%[","4"):gsub("\\","5"):gsub("]","6"):gsub("%^","7"):gsub("_","8"):gsub(string.char(96),"9")
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L319[05:22:54] <gamax92> I don't fancy lua or fancy patterns
L320[05:26:11] <v^> <_>
L321[05:26:15] <v^> gamax92, i dont even?
L322[05:26:23] <v^> wat is that
L323[05:27:36] <v^> thats not how it works >_>
L324[05:28:09] <gamax92> it worked when I tested it
L325[05:28:33] <v^> as in
L326[05:28:38] <v^> the math is easier
L327[05:28:45] <Kodos> This mod is so good
L328[05:28:56] <v^> ((char):byte()+9)%16
L329[05:29:05] <v^> ^ is how LuaJ does it
L330[05:29:29] <gamax92> oh, but then I'd have to do that to every character
L331[05:29:35] <gamax92> instead of just str = str:gsub("[[\\%]^_`]", function(a) return a:byte() - 87 end)
L332[05:29:44] <v^> er
L333[05:30:14] <gamax92> wait ...
L334[05:31:26] <v^> well bedtime
L335[05:31:46] <v^> also yeah, everything A and after
L336[05:31:50] <v^> IIRC
L337[05:39:01] <gamax92> v^: "convert to a number using baee 10"
L338[05:39:07] <gamax92> >baee 10
L339[05:39:10] <v^> where
L340[05:39:19] <gamax92> luaj's source code, LuaString
L341[05:39:35] <v^> fucking incredible
L342[05:39:36] <v^> 10/10
L343[05:39:49] <v^> i now have a sudden fetish for LuaJ's developers
L344[05:41:25] <gamax92> v^: oh my, http://hastebin.com/fedosujede.java
L345[05:42:19] <v^> gamax92, >_> i gtg bed
L346[05:42:23] <v^> all i see is garbage
L347[05:42:34] <gamax92> lol
L348[05:44:56] <v^> gamax92, im not even fucking
L349[05:44:57] <v^> http://i.imgur.com/vPYuc4s.png
L350[05:45:04] *** v^ is now known as pong
L351[05:45:29] <gamax92> XD
L352[05:48:13] *** Benguin is now known as Benguin[ZzZ]
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L354[05:49:42] *** PotatoSalad is now known as MuricanPotato
L355[05:49:48] <MuricanPotato> Hello
L356[05:50:08] <gamax92> oi
L357[05:50:18] <MuricanPotato> Happy Murica Day
L358[05:50:36] <gamax92> theres waaaay too much nether quartz
L359[05:50:54] <MuricanPotato> theres waaaaay too much not freedom
L360[05:51:04] <gamax92> .l return care
L361[05:51:04] <^v> gamax92, nil
L362[05:51:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh cool, it's potato
L363[05:51:40] <MuricanPotato> Not just any potato, a Murican Potato
L364[05:51:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Interesting fact: Wikipedia has a category of dishes that use potato as an ingredient
L365[05:52:03] <MuricanPotato> Is freedom one of them?
L366[05:52:30] <gamax92> In other words: Wikipedia has an easy access way for ways to kill MuricanPotato.
L367[05:53:09] <MuricanPotato> Can't touch this freedom
L368[05:53:24] <gamax92> MuricanPotato: touch?
L369[05:53:28] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQP7Q2s9LY0
L370[05:53:28] -Kibibyte- [gamax92] Amv - Touch 720p | by heardyoulikeamvs1 | 3m23s | 182w2d ago | 1,925,103 views | Rated: 4.93/5.00
L371[05:54:30] <MuricanPotato> :/
L372[05:55:25] * ShadowKatStudios mollecularly deconstructs MuricanPotato, reconstructs as a full potato, and makes slices for potato scallops
L373[05:55:57] <MuricanPotato> :D
L374[05:56:11] <gamax92> I've only seen a fraction of the anime in that video, and by that I mean 2.
L375[05:56:16] * MuricanPotato feeds SKS Freedom Potato Scallops
L376[05:56:40] <gamax92> okay, make that 4
L377[05:56:52] <gamax92> and 5
L378[06:00:55] *** Alissa is now known as Alissaway
L379[06:02:32] *** Alissaway is now known as Alissa
L380[06:12:35] <gamax92> Dammit Totem
L381[06:12:38] <gamax92> Play my videp
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L383[06:19:29] <gamax92> ;-;
L384[06:19:43] <gamax92> ohai asie
L385[06:27:10] <MuricanPotato> Happy Murcia Day, asie
L386[06:27:31] <asie> hi
L387[06:27:42] * MuricanPotato greets asie with freedom
L388[06:28:04] <Bizzycola> You remind me of someone I know murica potato :p
L389[06:28:17] <MuricanPotato> Uncle Sam?
L390[06:28:21] <Bizzycola> No :p
L391[06:28:31] <Bizzycola> Someone else who sees everything murica does as an act of freedom! :p
L392[06:28:49] <MuricanPotato> Hey, we are the land of supervised freedom, as they say
L393[06:29:16] * Alissa drinks her soda of FREEDOM
L394[06:29:16] <Alissa> 'MURICA.
L395[06:29:23] <Alissa> also happy birthday to me
L396[06:29:23] * Alissa departs
L397[06:29:23] <Bizzycola> :P
L398[06:29:36] * MuricanPotato gives Alissa a present of FREEDOM
L399[06:30:52] <MuricanPotato> anyone else want some freedom?
L400[06:31:00] <Bizzycola> It's like you and him are twins or something!
L401[06:31:11] <MuricanPotato> MURICAN TWINS
L402[06:31:13] <Bizzycola> Do you have an interest in hardware by any chance? :p
L403[06:31:33] <MuricanPotato> I have an interest in FREEDOM!
L404[06:31:46] * MuricanPotato is going into Dallas for freedom day
L405[06:33:40] <MuricanPotato> What do you non freedom people think about America and the 4th of July?
L406[06:34:01] <Bizzycola> I dunno
L407[06:34:10] <Bizzycola> I pay little attention to the day :p
L408[06:47:28] <asie> MuricanPotato: you're in a land of freedom
L409[06:47:35] <asie> but you lost root access over time
L410[06:50:55] <ShadowKatStudios> MuricanPotato: Oh yeah, it is the 4th of july, the date on this computer is middle endian so I thought it was the 7th of the 4th today, anyway, my opinion is meh
L411[06:52:21] <Kodos> This mod is weird
L412[06:52:26] <Kodos> I know nothing of electrical engineering
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L414[06:57:37] <MuricanPotato> .sdate
L415[06:57:37] <^v> MuricanPotato, Sep 7612, 1993
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L421[07:19:36] <istasi> http://satwcomic.com/safety-first my ignorant view of the average american, magnify that abit on the 4th-july
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L424[08:00:41] <Kodos> .w robot
L425[08:00:41] <^v> Kodos, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/api-robot
L426[08:04:51] *** sleepyflenix is now known as workingflenix
L427[08:13:59] *** Kodos is now known as Kodos|Zzz
L428[08:16:34] <Kodos|Zzz> If you have two computers linked via the linked card, do you still have to follow standard networking protocols, like opening ports and such, or can you just send a message
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L430[08:21:56] <Bizzycola> I am not even sure what this linked card is :p
L431[08:22:01] <Bizzycola> is it a 1.3 thing?
L432[08:26:11] <Kodos|Zzz> Yes
L433[08:26:20] <Kodos|Zzz> .w Linked
L434[08:26:20] <^v> Kodos|Zzz, Not found. did you want "ender"?
L435[08:26:22] <Kodos|Zzz> er
L436[08:26:28] <Kodos|Zzz> .w networking
L437[08:26:28] <^v> Kodos|Zzz, Not found. did you want "string api"?
L438[08:26:32] <Kodos|Zzz> .w network
L439[08:26:32] <^v> Kodos|Zzz, Not found. did you want "keyboard api"?
L440[08:26:37] <Kodos|Zzz> .w networking api
L441[08:26:37] <^v> Kodos|Zzz, Not found. did you want "string api"?
L442[08:26:48] <Kodos|Zzz> x.x
L443[08:26:49] <Kodos|Zzz> .w
L444[08:26:49] <^v> Kodos|Zzz, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/
L445[08:27:04] <Kodos|Zzz> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/Items
L446[08:27:09] <Kodos|Zzz> Just past the wireless network card
L447[08:27:23] <Kodos|Zzz> Nevermind, no ports needed
L448[08:27:28] <Kodos|Zzz> That's what I get for not checking the wiki
L449[08:27:35] <Kodos|Zzz> Anyway, wife's calling. Gn
L450[08:30:33] <leagris> MuricanPotato, we have no 4th of July here. We go from July, 3 to July, 5.
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L452[08:38:22] <MuricanPotato> :P
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L454[08:39:33] <MuricanPotato> Night people, I have a big day tomorrow. Going to the big D!
L455[08:39:47] <MuricanPotato> That sounds wrong
L456[08:39:52] <MuricanPotato> >.>
L457[08:39:52] <robhol> it does indeed.
L458[08:39:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Indeed.
L459[08:39:59] <robhol> what did I just walk in on?
L460[08:39:59] <Alissa> Very.
L461[08:40:19] * MuricanPotato shoots self in headdddddddd
L462[08:40:30] <robhol> anyway, I've been using CC for ages, what's OC's user system about?
L463[08:40:42] <MuricanPotato> Its amazing
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L465[08:40:45] zsh sets mode: +v on jk-5
L466[08:40:53] <ShadowKatStudios> User system..?
L467[08:40:55] <MuricanPotato> Well, I have to go to the big D(allas)
L468[08:41:09] <ShadowKatStudios> MuricanPotato: I was going with Darwin,
L469[08:41:13] <MuricanPotato> -
L470[08:41:18] <ShadowKatStudios> but that's in Australia
L471[08:41:19] <MuricanPotato> _-
L472[08:41:38] <ShadowKatStudios> It's a capital city, and one of the like- 7 I know.
L473[08:41:57] <MuricanPotato> I get to see my aunt from NYC
L474[08:42:07] <MuricanPotato> :D
L475[08:42:28] * MuricanPotato is proud to be an american
L476[08:42:39] <MuricanPotato> Night Yall
L477[08:42:59] *** MuricanPotato is now known as SleepyMuricanPotato
L478[08:43:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Let's see... Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, Melbourne, Perth, Darwin, the ACT and Hobart
L479[08:44:00] *** justastranger is now known as WizardLizard
L480[08:44:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Yay, I know capital cities :D
L481[08:45:06] <robhol> Taking a look at OC's API, it looks like I can retire large parts of my "general utilities" api
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L492[09:20:28] <JoshTheEnder> morning all
L493[09:22:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Ohai JTE
L494[09:22:57] <JoshTheEnder> ohai SKS
L495[09:23:16] <Alissa> HELLO.
L496[09:23:36] <JoshTheEnder> hello
L497[09:23:51] <Bizzycola> hi
L498[09:25:23] <JoshTheEnder> hi
L499[09:30:37] ⇨ Joins: Lumien (~lumien@p4FED46C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L500[09:59:38] <robhol> OH MY GOD
L501[09:59:42] <robhol> CODE PAGE 437?!?!
L502[10:00:07] <robhol> ヽ(#`Д´)ノ why is this so awesome
L503[10:01:58] ⇨ Joins: xPucTu4 (yahoo@xPucTu4.Net)
L504[10:03:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes. Yes it is.
L505[10:03:54] * robhol flips ShadowKatStudios
L506[10:04:12] * JoshTheEnder flips ShadowKatStudios back
L507[10:04:14] * ShadowKatStudios does a barrel roll
L508[10:09:44] <Bizzycola> ic
L509[10:13:08] * JoshTheEnder flips Bizzycola
L510[10:15:13] * Bizzycola backflips over JoshTheEnder , stealing his hat while above him
L511[10:15:26] *** Alissa is now known as Alissaway
L512[10:15:35] * JoshTheEnder gets a new hat
L513[10:15:43] <Bizzycola> ohok
L514[10:19:39] * ShadowKatStudios produces a Fedora from his longcoat
L515[10:19:57] * robhol burns the fedora
L516[10:20:02] <robhol> just no. please.
L517[10:20:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Why no fedoras?
L518[10:20:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Meh, fine.
L519[10:20:44] * ShadowKatStudios produces a fez from his longcoat
L520[10:21:12] * JoshTheEnder hands ShadowKatStudios his hat then pulls out a top hat from his pocket and proceeds to put it on
L521[10:21:15] <robhol> Has anybody considered allowing other languages, or is that... infeasible at this point?
L522[10:21:29] <JoshTheEnder> robhol, for OC?
L523[10:21:31] <robhol> yeah
L524[10:22:12] <JoshTheEnder> other languages can be done, you need to implement them as an architecture though (hard from what i've hared)
L525[10:22:28] <robhol> I've been wanting to have an excuse to try Squirrel
L526[10:23:30] <Bizzycola> rob, your name is very familiar.. :p
L527[10:23:51] <Bizzycola> I know I've seen your nick somewhere before
L528[10:24:33] <robhol> computercraft, maybe? or some other minecraft-related thing
L529[10:24:45] <Bizzycola> I dunno. I feel like it was longer ago. I dunno :p
L530[10:25:03] <Bizzycola> but if you don't recognize bizzycola or cokacola then I've no idea
L531[10:25:05] <robhol> it wasn't related to GTA, was it? :p
L532[10:25:15] <Bizzycola> Oh it might've been
L533[10:25:15] * ShadowKatStudios thinks he remembers robhol from CC
L534[10:25:18] <Bizzycola> SA?
L535[10:25:33] <Bizzycola> probably mta or something
L536[10:25:35] <robhol> yeah. I played a lot of MTA:SA and a bit of SA-MP before that
L537[10:25:56] <Bizzycola> Ah I must remember you from the mta forum or something then
L538[10:26:10] <robhol> probably.
L539[10:26:18] <Bizzycola> Well..Hello :p
L540[10:26:50] <robhol> Hi :3
L541[10:27:47] <Bizzycola> speaking of mta..I've been meaning to setup a server for scripting when I get bored. Should do that sometime.. I'm too lazy to do anything I want to do most the time
L542[10:28:55] <Bizzycola> Too busy playing with node.js hehe
L543[10:29:06] <robhol> I've been plagued with "nostalgia attacks" for a long time. I miss my old server, I really do. The problem is the... to be blunt, crappy player base
L544[10:29:29] <Bizzycola> Yea I know a guy who refuses to play anymore, says they hacked him and found his address or something
L545[10:29:39] <robhol> lol, ouch.
L546[10:29:48] <robhol> who hacked... whom?
L547[10:29:49] <Bizzycola> Mine wasn't intended as a public server anyway. I pretty much just set it up and allow people I actually know who play mta on it
L548[10:30:01] <Bizzycola> I don't know who it was that did the hacking, nor do I know what name he used in mta lol
L549[10:30:25] <Bizzycola> I used to rather enjoy creating scripts that are sort of a mix between rpg and freeroam
L550[10:31:24] <robhol> anyway, I tried playing some more not too long ago. But there aren't any proper open world deathmatch servers left. Doesn't seem to be too much demand for it. Shame. :(
L551[10:31:39] <Bizzycola> I imagine deathmatch is the most fun :p
L552[10:32:26] <Bizzycola> I like just creating random stuff. You can get a car with freeroam, add all sorts of cool stuff to it then save it for example. Or buy a house no one else can enter :p
L553[10:32:35] <robhol> yeah, sort of. RP/G in GTA has always struck me as incredibly boring, and racing... put it this way, there are much better games available for those genres
L554[10:32:46] <Bizzycola> Do random pointless jobs for money. Basically just do what ever the hell you want
L555[10:32:51] <Bizzycola> thats the way I like to play it
L556[10:32:53] <robhol> Yeah, that can be fun
L557[10:33:01] <robhol> Remember Simbad de Zeeman? :p
L558[10:33:03] <Bizzycola> I even had a town blocked off with fences and had zombie spawn points in it
L559[10:33:15] <Bizzycola> So if yu wanted you could go shoot at zombies lol
L560[10:33:31] <Bizzycola> Doesn't sound familiar
L561[10:33:41] <Bizzycola> I haven't played online in quite some time
L562[10:33:52] <robhol> I'm not sure, but you might even have played on my server, back in the good ol' days :p
L563[10:34:01] <Bizzycola> It's possible
L564[10:34:05] <robhol> It was quite active for some time
L565[10:34:18] <Bizzycola> I used to sometimes enjoy cops and robbers too
L566[10:34:41] <Bizzycola> Made my own cops/robbers car chase gamemode last year. I think I lost it when my external drive died though
L567[10:35:02] <Bizzycola> I LOST IT BEFORE I COULD ADD TASERS! The horror!
L568[10:35:39] <Bizzycola> It's funny, I hang out here but I hardly play minecraft anymore. Gotten pretty bored of it lately. Can't be bothered to do anything big
L569[10:37:11] <robhol> lol
L570[10:37:11] <ShadowKatStudios> JoshTheEnder: The dilemma is sorted, expect another chapter tonight
L571[10:37:19] <JoshTheEnder> \o/
L572[10:37:38] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L573[10:38:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I've consulted the person who is the basis for the timeline C female lead.
L574[10:39:18] <Bizzycola> I think if we could get enough players, a large military battle would be fun in MTA :p
L575[10:39:35] <Bizzycola> LS VS LV or something
L576[10:40:42] <robhol> anyway, JoshTheEnder, what do you mean by "implement as an architecture?"
L577[10:41:05] <Bizzycola> Know any scala or java? I think you'll need to mod the source.
L578[10:41:18] <Bizzycola> If you look at the source for OC, it has classes like that in the API you can check out
L579[10:41:37] <Bizzycola> things to extend from and work with. I looked into them when considering a tablet minimod for oc
L580[10:41:39] <JoshTheEnder> in OC, lua is an architecture. to implement other languages you'd need to implement an architecture for it
L581[10:44:27] <robhol> Bizzycola: I'm not too hot with Java, and have never touched Scala
L582[10:44:50] <robhol> I'm a soon-to-be pro C# developer though, so I'm not completely lost :p
L583[10:44:58] <Bizzycola> I'm not sure if you'll need scala for it or not. Java most liekly though. Sangar would be better to answer, if he's around
L584[10:45:13] <Bizzycola> ah yes, I quite enjoy C#. One of my favourite languages
L585[10:45:20] <Bizzycola> It helped me to learn Java :p
L586[10:45:51] <robhol> I think it actually ruined java for me :p
L587[10:46:08] <Bizzycola> hah, yea I don't much enjoy using java over c# myself :p
L588[10:46:19] <ShadowKatStudios> I once tried to use both Java and C#. They just hurt my head.
L589[10:46:23] <Bizzycola> But if you wanna do any mc modding, java or scala will needed
L590[10:46:44] <Bizzycola> C# hurt your head? But it's so fun to write games in!
L591[10:55:47] <Sangar> o/
L592[10:55:57] <JoshTheEnder> \o
L593[10:56:29] <robhol> /o
L594[10:56:35] <Sangar> \o/
L595[10:56:46] * robhol slaps Sangar around a bit with a squirrel :3
L596[10:56:47] <JoshTheEnder> /o/
L597[10:57:19] <Sangar> i think i fixed the native crash, yay
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L599[10:58:03] <ShadowKatStudios> \o\
L600[10:58:10] <robhol> /o/
L601[10:58:35] <robhol> Anyway Sangar, how much hassle would it be to expand OC to allow other languages? :3
L602[10:58:59] <Sangar> robhol, depends on the language ;)
L603[10:59:06] <ShadowKatStudios> -\o-\
L604[10:59:11] <robhol> Say... squirrel or something
L605[10:59:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Why are there no inverted underscroes!?
L606[11:00:01] <Sangar> as it's currently implemented you ned to implement the Architecture interface and then create a Machine with that architecture - which you'd probably want to host in some tile entity, so you'd also need an extra computer case block for that language.
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L608[11:01:00] <robhol> hmm
L609[11:01:10] <robhol> and this can be written in Java, right?
L610[11:01:22] <robhol> even though scala is used for most of the mod
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L613[11:03:48] <Bizzycola> Lets implement Lu..ohwait
L614[11:04:04] * robhol throws Bizzycola out of the window
L615[11:04:06] <Sangar> robhol, yes, the api is pure java
L616[11:04:10] <Bizzycola> Oi!
L617[11:04:23] <vifino> oi Bizzycola!
L618[11:04:27] <Bizzycola> Throwing people out of windows is very rude!
L619[11:04:35] <vifino> Nah
L620[11:04:49] <vifino> Its just another countries "Hello"
L621[11:04:55] <robhol> where in the source would I find the interface? :p haven't gotten around to installing git here
L622[11:04:55] <Bizzycola> Oh, implement Pawn(rob probably knows what I'm on about :P)!
L623[11:05:09] <robhol> Bizzycola: you dirty motherf... >:@
L624[11:05:13] <Bizzycola> lolol
L625[11:05:17] * robhol throws Bizzycola out of a higher window
L626[11:05:31] <Bizzycola> not a huge SA-MP fan I take it? :p
L627[11:05:47] <Sangar> robhol, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/tree/master/src/main/java/li/cil/oc/api/machine
L628[11:05:47] * Bizzycola climbs back up
L629[11:05:55] <Bizzycola> IT'LL HAVE FUNCTIONING TRAIN CONNECTIONS
L630[11:05:59] <robhol> As far as I care (which isn't as much as I used to), it can fuck right off and take every sympathizer with it :3
L631[11:06:11] <robhol> Sangar: thanks
L632[11:06:13] <Bizzycola> mta is better :p
L633[11:06:25] <Sangar> np
L634[11:07:06] <Bizzycola> I should make a custom machine that has a 1 in 5 chance of exploding when you turn it on
L635[11:07:09] <Bizzycola> because I'm evil
L636[11:08:09] <robhol> Bizzycola: also, the sun is hot *hides*
L637[11:08:46] <Bizzycola> NO IT ISN'T! IT EMITS COLD!
L638[11:09:04] <Bizzycola> The moon is boiling however
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L641[11:18:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Bizzycola: Considering my moon-mounted death laser, it is boiling.
L642[11:18:42] <Bizzycola> Yes. You built a giant freezing ray on the moon, shot the sun and now have contructed a death laser
L643[11:18:48] <Bizzycola> We shouldn't trust SKS in space
L644[11:22:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah, but it's far too late for that.
L645[11:23:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Didn't you know that they sent cats up to the ISS?
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L647[11:25:54] <Bizzycola> Well they regret it I'm sure! :p
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L650[11:34:23] <robhol> but ats are awesome
L651[11:34:27] <robhol> cats*
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L653[11:44:22] <Bizzycola> ic
L654[11:46:34] <Kilobyte> morning everyone
L655[11:46:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Morning Kilobyte.
L656[11:47:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I've come to a terrible situation.
L657[11:47:14] * Kilobyte whips scalac... maybe it makes it faster
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L659[11:47:25] <Kilobyte> it did help for slaves in old rome
L660[11:47:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I've run out of lemonade, and all the shops are closed.
L661[11:47:34] <Kilobyte> D:
L662[11:47:39] <robhol> nice excuse, Kilobyte! You perv!
L663[11:47:56] <Bizzycola> lol
L664[11:48:01] * Kilobyte feels uncovered
L665[11:48:26] * ShadowKatStudios thinks he needs a drink, and wanders off to the fridge
L666[11:48:35] <Kilobyte> water helps
L667[11:49:05] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how can i add a config option?
L668[11:49:18] <Kilobyte> adding it to Settings.scala crashed the game
L669[11:49:22] <Sangar> add it to the reference.conf
L670[11:49:30] <Sangar> that's where the defaults go
L671[11:49:33] <Kilobyte> aaaaaaaaahhhhhh
L672[11:49:45] <ShadowKatStudios> We have orange juice!
L673[11:49:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Sounds perfect for almost 10 AM!
L674[11:49:58] <ShadowKatStudios> >:D
L675[11:50:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Wait, no, 10PM
L676[11:50:32] <Bizzycola> :p
L677[11:52:53] <Kilobyte> Sangar: now i need to know how to access the settings instance
L678[11:53:03] <Sangar> Settings.get
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L681[11:54:56] <Kilobyte> Sangar: der lazy val isCaseSensitive = if (Settings.get.forceCaseInsensitive) false else calculateCaseSensitive
L682[11:55:23] <Kilobyte> that should work, right?=
L683[11:56:22] <Sangar> or just lazy val isCaseSensitive = Settings.get.forceCaseInsensitive || calculateCaseSensitive
L684[11:56:38] <Kilobyte> no
L685[11:56:41] <Sangar> tho the naming is kinda weird
L686[11:56:53] <Sangar> ah
L687[11:56:56] <Sangar> reading fail
L688[11:56:59] <Sangar> jeez
L689[11:57:14] <Kilobyte> yeah, i should maybe make that more consistant :P
L690[11:57:33] <Sangar> well, !force && calc then :P
L691[11:58:07] <Kilobyte> if i set force to false that will result in
L692[11:58:12] <Kilobyte> true && calc
L693[11:58:19] <Kilobyte> aka it will always be case sensitive
L694[11:58:25] <Kilobyte> and not calculate
L695[11:58:28] <Sangar> wot
L696[11:58:59] <Kilobyte> !false is true :P
L697[11:59:04] <Sangar> false && calc won't run calc, true && calc *will* run calc
L698[11:59:15] <Kilobyte> wait
L699[11:59:18] <Kilobyte> fail
L700[11:59:23] <Sangar> welcome to the club
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L703[12:02:40] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ummmmm
L704[12:02:42] <Kilobyte> 2014-07-04 14:01:48 [Information] [STDOUT] cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: codechicken.lib.vec.Vector3.normalize()Lcodechicken/lib/vec/Vector3;
L705[12:03:16] <Sangar> exclude the lib/vec folder
L706[12:03:33] <Sangar> (i also added it the readme, but hey, who reads those anyway >_>)
L707[12:03:56] <Kilobyte> exclude? how? D:
L708[12:04:00] <Kilobyte> rm -rf?
L709[12:04:18] <Sangar> in intellij: right-click->mark folder as->excluded
L710[12:04:34] <Kilobyte> *directory
L711[12:04:35] <Kilobyte> :P
L712[12:04:56] <Kilobyte> i hate the word folder in that context
L713[12:05:07] <Sangar> if you only run it via intellij you can probably remove it. it's sadly required to compile via gradle because somehow the dependencies aren't properly resolved in the api compilation step -.-
L714[12:05:16] <Kilobyte> gah
L715[12:05:20] <Kilobyte> meh
L716[12:05:26] <Kilobyte> i excluded it
L717[12:05:52] * Kilobyte should clean his glasses
L718[12:05:53] <Kilobyte> brb
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L720[12:07:40] <Timmy94> how i get a component.noteblock.trigger() in something like c.nb.trigger()
L721[12:10:27] <Kilobyte> you can do nb.trigger()
L722[12:10:34] <istasi> the hard way i'd think c = { ['nb'] = component.noteblock } :/
L723[12:10:36] <Kilobyte> local nb = component.noteblock
L724[12:10:40] <Kilobyte> or that
L725[12:10:50] <Kilobyte> actually
L726[12:11:02] <Kilobyte> c = { nb = component.noteblock }
L727[12:11:04] <Kilobyte> :P
L728[12:11:13] <Kilobyte> though, you should use a local before the c
L729[12:12:09] <ShadowKatStudios> If I'm gonna do any writing...
L730[12:12:15] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm gonna need NP++!
L731[12:12:40] <Kilobyte> ewww
L732[12:12:40] <ShadowKatStudios> WIth some luck I can turn of fthat annoying autocorrect too.
L733[12:12:44] <Kilobyte> sublime text please
L734[12:12:45] <Kilobyte> :P
L735[12:12:51] <istasi> ^
L736[12:13:03] <Kilobyte> or use intellijs lua plugin :P
L737[12:13:12] <Sangar> ohey istasi, iirc you were pretty good at getting the native lib to crash, right? could you try the latest 1.6 build, should be fixed in there.
L738[12:13:14] <Kilobyte> its even better
L739[12:13:16] <ShadowKatStudios> eww, st2, no thank you.
L740[12:13:19] <Timmy94> thank you
L741[12:13:42] <istasi> sangar, it havn't crashed at all since i turned off persistent though :(
L742[12:13:50] <Kilobyte> ofc
L743[12:13:55] <Kilobyte> turn on persistance
L744[12:13:57] <Sangar> istasi, yeah, turn it on again and try with the latest build :)
L745[12:14:07] <Kilobyte> ShadowKatStudios: whats wrong with it :O
L746[12:14:18] <ShadowKatStudios> it's not np++
L747[12:14:19] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L748[12:14:33] <istasi> 1.6 ?, minecraft 1.6 ?
L749[12:14:36] <Kilobyte> correct. its better
L750[12:14:43] <Kilobyte> yes
L751[12:14:57] <Sangar> istasi, yeah. i'm currently fighting jenkins to build the 1.7 branch again -.-
L752[12:15:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Kilobyte: Perhaps for you, but NP++ is my preferred editor on Windows.
L753[12:15:21] <Kilobyte> you should switch your OS anyways ;)
L754[12:15:31] <Kilobyte> coding on windows isn't exactly fun
L755[12:15:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, I'm only using Windows because this isn't my computer
L756[12:15:47] <ShadowKatStudios> I much prefer my medit on my linux system.
L757[12:16:09] <Kilobyte> :D
L758[12:16:23] <Kilobyte> well, sublime is pretty decent
L759[12:16:30] <Sangar> can np++ do multi-cursors, yet? otherwise yes, st is superior >_>
L760[12:16:32] <Kenny> Kilo, does lua let you do something like a = b = c?
L761[12:16:48] <Kilobyte> Kenny: no, thats something i miss
L762[12:17:01] <Kilobyte> only a, b = c, c works
L763[12:17:08] <ShadowKatStudios> When I looked at ST2's site it freaked me out because it was using exactly the same theme as me, so I didn't use it.
L764[12:17:23] <Kenny> then is this valid: c = { nb = component.noteblock }
L765[12:17:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Yay, minimal NP++
L766[12:17:29] <Kilobyte> thats no argument
L767[12:17:58] <Kilobyte> Kenny: yes, its a hash where nb is the key and component.noteblock the value
L768[12:18:02] <Kilobyte> and its saved in c
L769[12:18:33] <Kenny> ok. not being a smart ass, just trying to learn time/space saving stuff.....
L770[12:18:45] <Kilobyte> (i use hash/array to distinguish the 2 types of tables)
L771[12:19:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Kenny: Write a bytecode-to-lua interpreter/compiler that you can use to save space :P
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L773[12:19:16] <Kenny> flipping from java to lua and back can get very confusiiing and frustrating at times
L774[12:19:34] <Kilobyte> ShadowKatStudios: in bytecode sadly there is stuff lost
L775[12:19:36] <Kenny> the damn index is confusing enough
L776[12:19:42] <Kilobyte> like local variable names
L777[12:19:58] <Kilobyte> they become numbers for most part
L778[12:20:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Alternatively, write a compiler, and have it compile to some sort of bytecode
L779[12:20:08] <Kenny> in java index starts at 0but lua starts at 1
L780[12:20:18] <Kilobyte> s/java/any sane language
L781[12:20:28] <Kilobyte> i only know 2 languages which do this shit
L782[12:20:32] <Kilobyte> BASIC and lua
L783[12:20:45] <Kilobyte> and BASIC is more a clusterfuck than a programming language
L784[12:21:02] <Kenny> hey! i resemble that remark
L785[12:21:02] <ShadowKatStudios> BASIC is history.
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L788[12:21:10] <ShadowKatStudios> resemble?
L789[12:21:30] <Kenny> GWBASIC was the first langauge i learned
L790[12:21:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Commodore Basic was the second I learned (after Lua), wish I never tried.
L791[12:22:01] <Kenny> of course, for the computers that came out then, you only has some form of BASIC as the language
L792[12:22:16] <ShadowKatStudios> FORTH was a nice language though.
L793[12:23:06] <Kenny> there was GWBASIC for the TRS-80, Pro-Basic for the old Apple computers, and the BAISC used with Commodore
L794[12:24:12] <Kilobyte> yeah, i also started my programming with GWBASIC
L795[12:24:47] <Kilobyte> at some point i tried VisualBasic (i still regret that decision) because i heard of it it was decent
L796[12:25:01] <Kilobyte> from there i went to java and c#
L797[12:25:04] <Sangar> the only good thing about vb was the gui designer :P
L798[12:25:05] <Kilobyte> and after that idk
L799[12:25:15] <JoshTheEnder> Space Engineers needs automated repair robots so it can repair the platforms i land/take off on
L800[12:25:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: other languages have that too
L801[12:25:29] <Kilobyte> and i used VB.NET not VB5/6
L802[12:25:38] <Sangar> Kilobyte, back then? at least i didn't know of any :P
L803[12:25:41] <Kilobyte> so c# would have been exactly same
L804[12:25:57] <Kilobyte> c# and VB.NET share the same gui designer
L805[12:26:03] <Kilobyte> its in visual studio
L806[12:26:09] <Sangar> well...
L807[12:26:12] <Bizzycola> JTE: Do you happen to destroy the platform when you land too?.. :p
L808[12:26:15] <Sangar> c# didn't exist when i used vb :P
L809[12:26:16] <ShadowKatStudios> But does said GUI designer support mono?
L810[12:26:20] <Sangar> neither did .net
L811[12:26:26] <Kilobyte> yeah, i am a bit younger
L812[12:26:27] <Bizzycola> c# is much more fun then vb :D
L813[12:26:28] <JoshTheEnder> Bizzycola, almost
L814[12:26:37] <Bizzycola> I landed once and dented it nicely lol
L815[12:26:41] <Kilobyte> it was 2008 when i started VB iirc
L816[12:26:43] <Bizzycola> I was like "oops."
L817[12:26:54] <JoshTheEnder> i usually have to replace about 2 or 3 blocks and repair a few
L818[12:27:00] <Bizzycola> Ah :p
L819[12:27:04] <Bizzycola> fun, isn't it?
L820[12:27:05] <ShadowKatStudios> I once 'landed' a SE ship. Mass weapons are reasonably effective, as it turns out.
L821[12:27:08] <Techokami> yeah C# is rad, and it's even more rad now that it's an open source language
L822[12:27:15] <Kilobyte> meh, i first coded when i was 9 or 10
L823[12:27:29] <Kilobyte> aka 8-9 years ago
L824[12:27:33] <Bizzycola> Soon I shall master web dev with c# as well
L825[12:27:43] <Kilobyte> >web dev
L826[12:27:47] <Kilobyte> >c#
L827[12:27:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Kilobyte: I started when I was 12 (well, started Lua, if you call that coding)
L828[12:27:48] <Kilobyte> run.
L829[12:27:53] <Bizzycola> Then with xamarin, xna, asp.net and normal .net, I shall be master of all platforms with c#! :p
L830[12:28:05] <Kilobyte> web dev? rails.
L831[12:28:16] <JoshTheEnder> hrmm, my front 2 landing gears seem to be missing :/
L832[12:28:17] <Kilobyte> easy. efficient.
L833[12:28:18] <Bizzycola> I has to do web dev in C# for uni anyways
L834[12:28:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Bizzycola: A python eats your musical note.
L835[12:28:28] <Bizzycola> Is his name monty?
L836[12:28:29] <Kilobyte> Bizzycola: sue your uni for using winderps
L837[12:28:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Quite possibly
L838[12:28:40] <Bizzycola> I had a python once. I named him monty
L839[12:28:47] <Kilobyte> in germany most unis use mainly linux
L840[12:28:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I once wrote a window manager in Python
L841[12:29:03] <Bizzycola> Kibibyte, I RUNNED ASP ON MY LINUX SERVER! It was very annoying and not well supported but still :D
L842[12:29:07] <Kilobyte> python is like shit
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L844[12:29:12] <ShadowKatStudios> It was cool, then I got bored.
L845[12:29:14] <Bizzycola> I dun know any python really.
L846[12:29:19] <Bizzycola> little bit maybe, but I suck at it anyway
L847[12:29:21] <Kilobyte> python is like
L848[12:29:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I hear ruby is like python without whitespace, is this true?
L849[12:29:43] <Kilobyte> if iDonNotIndentProperly:
L850[12:29:43] <Kilobyte> everythingFail()
L851[12:29:46] <Sangar> oh yey, 1.7.2 build again and it wasn't even my fault :>
L852[12:29:49] <Sangar> *builds
L853[12:30:01] <Kilobyte> ruby is like
L854[12:30:17] <istasi> sangar, can i test it on 1.7.2 instead then? :P
L855[12:30:27] <istasi> s/test/crash
L856[12:30:30] <Kilobyte> do_not_care! if not_indented_properly?
L857[12:30:35] <Sangar> istasi, if jenkins also doesn't fail, yup :P
L858[12:31:01] <Kilobyte> Sangar: wot
L859[12:31:04] <ShadowKatStudios> ow, bones are not meant to make noises audible on the other side of the room
L860[12:31:06] <Kilobyte> y is this invalid scala
L861[12:31:07] <Kilobyte> println s"Looking for $lowerFirst"
L862[12:31:19] <ShadowKatStudios> ogod, is that scala?
L863[12:31:28] <Kilobyte> apperently not
L864[12:31:30] <ShadowKatStudios> That looks nasty
L865[12:31:38] <JoshTheEnder> http://puu.sh/9WrX3/99ca8e7da4.jpg before takeoff
L866[12:31:49] <Kilobyte> ShadowKatStudios: its not
L867[12:32:13] <Kilobyte> stuff like System.out.println("Looking for " + lowerFirst) is nasty
L868[12:32:14] <ShadowKatStudios> JoshTheEnder: Engines close to the bottom are an issue, aren't they?
L869[12:32:30] <ShadowKatStudios> That's still nasty IMO
L870[12:32:38] <ShadowKatStudios> But less nasty than the original
L871[12:33:01] <Kilobyte> node.children.foreach { ... }
L872[12:33:06] <Kilobyte> better than
L873[12:33:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Okey, just Kanon left to download.
L874[12:33:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Any anime serieses anyone would like to reccomend for me to download while I have internet?
L875[12:33:49] <Kilobyte> for (VirtualObject _ : node.children) {...}
L876[12:33:58] <JoshTheEnder> meteorites yay http://puu.sh/9Ws3E/bf5dd9d656.jpg
L877[12:34:01] <Kilobyte> ShadowKatStudios: now tell me which one is less nasty
L878[12:34:10] <ShadowKatStudios> The second one.
L879[12:34:20] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i think he's trolling
L880[12:35:09] <Kilobyte> ShadowKatStudios: have you even ever worked in a functional language?
L881[12:35:25] <Kenny> maybe need ( ) around string?
L882[12:35:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Is Lua or Python one? If not, no.
L883[12:35:46] <Kilobyte> then don't complain about functional programming style
L884[12:35:52] <Sangar> :P
L885[12:35:59] <Kilobyte> its more efficient
L886[12:36:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, I s'pose I don't have the right to complain about something if I'm not willing to change it.
L887[12:37:05] <Kilobyte> myArrayOfStrings.map { "Hello " + _ }
L888[12:37:09] <Kilobyte> is more compact than
L889[12:38:06] <Kilobyte> for (int i = 0; i < myArrayOfStrings.length; i++) {
L890[12:38:06] <Kilobyte> myArrayOfStrings[i] = "Hello " + myArrayOfStrings[i];
L891[12:38:06] <Kilobyte> }
L892[12:38:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Can myArrayOfStrings.map { "Hello " + _ } be condensed to myArrayOfStrings.map{"Hello "+_} ?
L893[12:38:19] <Kilobyte> yes, but thats bad coding style
L894[12:38:33] <Sangar> functional style can be weird initially. but that's only because other languages ruined us. it's actually a lot more intuitive, imho :P
L895[12:38:50] <Kilobyte> and more compact :P
L896[12:39:02] <Sangar> well, yes, that's a nice side-effect ;)
L897[12:39:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Scala is a compiler-ish language right? It has some thing that converts it to run-able code, right?
L898[12:39:17] <Sangar> scala compiles to java vm bytecode, yes
L899[12:39:20] <Kilobyte> it compiles to java bytecode
L900[12:39:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Hm, wouldn't need to do the condensing then.
L901[12:39:59] <Kilobyte> anyways, that one liner is much easier to read than those 3 lines doing essentially the same
L902[12:40:36] <Sangar> yeah. functional style has generally a lower amount of 'noise'
L903[12:40:56] <Sangar> istasi, 1.7.2 build went through
L904[12:41:09] <istasi> cheers, fetching
L905[12:41:16] <Kilobyte> Sangar: can you do stuff like abc.map! {...} from ruby in scala?
L906[12:41:24] <Kilobyte> map! modifies the existing array
L907[12:41:36] <Kilobyte> map only returns the mapped one
L908[12:43:01] <Sangar> not that i'm aware of. scala tends to be more 'puristic' functional (as in: prefers immutables)
L909[12:43:10] <Kilobyte> heh
L910[12:43:21] <Kilobyte> yeah, ruby isn't into that
L911[12:43:30] <Kilobyte> ruby doesn't even really have immutables
L912[12:43:45] <Kilobyte> but its still a bit functional-ish
L913[12:43:52] <Sangar> hehe
L914[12:44:22] <ShadowKatStudios> You people are confusing me, I want my FORTH.
L915[12:44:24] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
L916[12:44:47] <Bizzycola> :p
L917[12:45:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I should finish my FORTH-in-lua project I was working on a while ago.
L918[12:45:58] <Kilobyte> Sangar: damnit, according to my debug code this should work -.-
L919[12:46:06] <Sangar> for me, forth is an esoteric language :P
L920[12:46:20] <Sangar> Kilobyte, but it doesn't? fun.
L921[12:46:34] <Kilobyte> Sangar: 1. it doesn'T
L922[12:46:40] <Kilobyte> 2. forth isn't really :P
L923[12:46:46] <Kilobyte> its just a pain
L924[12:46:55] <Sangar> i know it isn't, i just say it is *for me* ;)
L925[12:47:16] <Kilobyte> best reverse polish lang i've seen is CRPL or however its spelled
L926[12:47:36] <Kilobyte> the scripting language for custom maps in the game creeper world 3 (awesome game, highly addicting)
L927[12:48:15] <Kilobyte> Sangar: doesn't help with debugging that i gotta restart mc each time
L928[12:48:23] <Kilobyte> aka 1-2 minutes of waiting
L929[12:48:49] <Sangar> :/
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L931[12:50:06] <Kilobyte> Sangar: CRPL doesn't always seem like a reverse polish language
L932[12:50:16] <Kilobyte> 3 4 add
L933[12:50:18] <Kilobyte> is same as
L934[12:50:23] <Kilobyte> add(3 4)
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L936[12:51:13] <Kilobyte> if (something) something else endif
L937[12:51:16] <Kilobyte> ^ valid CRPL
L938[12:51:17] <istasi> mmh, can you somehow see if its stuck on something while loading a single player world? ... shouldn't take this long for sure.
L939[12:51:57] <ShadowKatStudios> But... 3 DUP 4 + +
L940[12:52:51] <Sangar> istasi, hmm, only what the console / fml log tells you. for me getting stuck loading a world usually means mc doesn't have enough memory.
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L942[12:53:34] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how to get the class name of something
L943[12:53:51] <Sangar> Kilobyte, classOf[TheClass].getName ?
L944[12:54:13] <Kilobyte> right. thanks
L945[12:54:27] <Kilobyte> Sangar: loggers need a new log level
L946[12:54:29] <Kilobyte> WTF#
L947[12:54:35] <Kilobyte> s/#//
L948[12:54:40] <Sangar> heh
L949[12:54:53] <istasi> mmh, minecraft is allowed to use 5gb ram, the world is just me, 2 computers, 2 robots, on top of a mountain, and got 16gb total, 4gb free, shouldn't really be anything taking up mem
L950[12:54:57] <ShadowKatStudios> So as it turns out, #// is a real channel
L951[12:55:24] <Kilobyte> lol
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L953[12:56:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm the only one in said channel, but that isn't the point.
L954[12:56:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar: err
L955[12:56:30] <Kilobyte> i meant class of a variable
L956[12:56:31] <Kilobyte> :P
L957[12:56:45] <Kilobyte> in java that would be var.getClass()
L958[12:56:53] <Sangar> same in scala
L959[12:56:56] <Kilobyte> huh
L960[12:57:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Windows doesn't support proper window resizing
L961[12:57:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Super+Alt+Arrow only works in one direction :(
L962[12:57:28] <Kilobyte> super+r
L963[12:57:29] <Kilobyte> :P
L964[12:57:34] <Kilobyte> then arrow keys
L965[12:57:40] <Kilobyte> (for me on i3)
L966[12:58:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Openbox is Super+Alt+Arrow, but I'm stuck with Windows on this machine because it isn't mine
L967[12:58:50] <Kilobyte> fok
L968[12:59:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Oi JTE, what should the email be? I've forgotten my intention for it
L969[12:59:23] <Kilobyte> need to go to hairdresser D:
L970[12:59:32] <Kilobyte> but i gotta debug first
L971[13:02:58] <Kilobyte> Sangar: woot
L972[13:03:01] <Kilobyte> it semi worked
L973[13:03:13] <Kilobyte> but edit didn't thing it was existing
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L975[13:03:33] <Kilobyte> TEST exists i edit test. edit: New file.
L976[13:03:34] <MichiBot> Kilobyte: Random XKCD Comic: http://xkcd.com/772/
L977[13:03:40] <Sangar> small steps :P
L978[13:03:46] <Kilobyte> when i save it it properly overwrites TEST though
L979[13:04:22] <Sangar> ah, so exists fails. oh. ofc it fails. that's not handled in there, yet.
L980[13:04:31] <Kilobyte> :P
L981[13:04:44] <Sangar> add override def exists(path: String) = super.exists(validatePath(path)) to the bufferedfs
L982[13:05:02] <Kilobyte> ah :P
L983[13:05:04] <Sangar> and the same for isDirectory i suppose
L984[13:05:13] <Kilobyte> isFile too?
L985[13:05:28] <Sangar> aannd... all the others, too i guess. size, lastModified, etc
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L987[13:05:48] <Sangar> alternatively...
L988[13:06:02] <Sangar> don't, and override segments instead
L989[13:06:10] <Sangar> since they all call that iirc
L990[13:06:11] <Kilobyte> wat?
L991[13:06:21] <Kilobyte> oh
L992[13:06:26] <Kilobyte> nah, cba now
L993[13:06:29] <Sangar> :D
L994[13:06:36] <Sangar> its ok, i can do that
L995[13:06:36] <Kilobyte> would mean a complete code rewrite
L996[13:06:50] <Sangar> oh?
L997[13:06:54] <Kilobyte> actually
L998[13:06:56] <Kilobyte> hmm
L999[13:06:58] <Kilobyte> wait derp
L1000[13:07:00] <Kilobyte> it doesn't
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L1003[13:09:58] <Kilobyte> Sangar: soo, segments overridden, lets test
L1004[13:10:09] <Sangar> fingers crossed
L1005[13:10:28] <Kilobyte> my code might not be most performant code, but eh, FS is pretty slow anyways
L1006[13:10:41] <Sangar> true
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L1008[13:11:04] <Sangar> and we can always optimize later, if necessary
L1009[13:11:27] <Kilobyte> tbh, if someone uses a case insensitive FS its their own fault
L1010[13:11:33] <Sangar> haha
L1011[13:12:47] <Sangar> brb
L1012[13:12:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: maybe expose fsComponent.isCaseSensitive() to the computer?
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L1014[13:14:25] <JoshTheEnder> ShadowKatStudios, ?
L1015[13:14:33] <ShadowKatStudios> In 9.25
L1016[13:14:47] <ShadowKatStudios> I leave it on a minor cliffhangar about the email
L1017[13:15:05] <JoshTheEnder> ohh, idk :/
L1018[13:15:11] <Kilobyte> Sangar: there we go
L1019[13:15:16] <Kilobyte> Sangar: works
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L1022[13:26:55] <robhol> is there a "human readable" recipe list?
L1023[13:28:15] <Kilobyte> NEI
L1024[13:28:16] <Kilobyte> :P
L1025[13:30:14] <Raga_BuildCraftUrbanist> robhol: Wikis, NEI, or CraftGuide can do the job for ya.
L1026[13:30:32] <robhol> I can't see it on the wiki :p
L1027[13:30:51] <Raga_BuildCraftUrbanist> :P
L1028[13:31:10] <Raga_BuildCraftUrbanist> Are you looking for a general recipe list?
L1029[13:31:33] <Raga_BuildCraftUrbanist> Wikis usually provides recipes on articles for individual items.
L1030[13:31:42] <JoshTheEnder> Raga_BuildCraftUrbanist, please shorten your nick
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L1034[13:32:53] <Raga> I guess for some IRC clients ... long names are a problem.
L1035[13:32:58] <Raga> Fortunately not in mine. :)
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L1037[13:34:34] <robhol> Raga: or it's just annoying, lol
L1038[13:34:47] <Raga> .... because it cause a problem. :P
L1039[13:35:04] <robhol> I was looking for the recipes for OC stuff
L1040[13:35:04] <Raga> Or annoying IS the problem.
L1041[13:35:11] <Raga> Hmmm. Interesting.
L1042[13:36:19] <Raga> Do OC even have a wiki, by the way? Just asking.
L1043[13:36:46] <Bizzycola> Yes
L1044[13:37:07] <Raga> Link please :)
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L1047[13:37:22] * Raga is rotten in mind and body
L1048[13:37:29] <Bizzycola> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki
L1049[13:38:00] <Bizzycola> Someone should put that in the topic lol
L1050[13:38:21] <Raga> Thank you, Bizzycola
L1051[13:38:23] <Raga> Indeed.
L1052[13:38:33] <Raga> Sangar: Why no recipes in the wiki? :P
L1053[13:38:48] <JoshTheEnder> .wiki
L1054[13:38:48] <^v> JoshTheEnder, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/
L1055[13:38:48] <Bizzycola> There is
L1056[13:38:58] <Raga> .wiki
L1057[13:38:58] <^v> Raga, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/
L1058[13:39:02] <Raga> Oh cool
L1059[13:39:11] <Raga> What else can the bot do?
L1060[13:39:28] <robhol> "# Determines whether robots are a pretty cool guy." lol'd
L1061[13:39:41] <Sangar> Kilobyte, dunno if the isCaseSensitive would be worth the hassle... it should be a non-issue usually, and is easy to test for (same way we do it now on the host fs). and yay.
L1062[13:40:02] <Sangar> Raga, no recipes on the wiki because no-one entered them there :P
L1063[13:40:04] <Kilobyte> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/370
L1064[13:40:05] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ^
L1065[13:40:09] <Bizzycola> I thought there used to be
L1066[13:40:16] <Kilobyte> literally just finished the pr
L1067[13:40:17] <Bizzycola> oh well, you'll have to use NEI or something
L1068[13:40:42] <Bizzycola> Maybe someone will add them to the item/block pages later
L1069[13:40:43] <Sangar> Kenny did a list and uploaded it to imgur way back, but that's probably outdated for quite a few items now.
L1070[13:40:47] * Bizzycola whistles lazily
L1071[13:40:57] <Raga> :P
L1072[13:41:04] <Kilobyte> Sangar: hmm
L1073[13:41:11] <Raga> Yeah, well in that case, NEI is the way to go robhol
L1074[13:41:20] <Kilobyte> i MIGHT make a NEI plugin to extract recipes as PNG
L1075[13:41:38] <Bizzycola> like its annoying because I can do the blocks but then I have to do all the items
L1076[13:41:41] <Bizzycola> and the items of the items
L1077[13:41:43] <Bizzycola> and so on :p
L1078[13:42:01] <Sangar> Kilobyte, thanks for the pr! will look over it in a bit :)
L1079[13:42:03] <Bizzycola> I don't even know if all the recipie items are listed
L1080[13:42:09] <Sangar> and such a plugin would be really useful :>
L1081[13:42:32] <Raga> Indeed it would.
L1082[13:42:35] <Techokami> I agree, it'd made mod author's lives much easier
L1083[13:43:06] <Kilobyte> Sangar: alternatively i make it output html
L1084[13:43:07] <Kilobyte> :P
L1085[13:43:08] <Bizzycola> Yea looks like the crafting only items aren't listed on the item pages
L1086[13:43:15] <Bizzycola> I'm far too lazy, have fun with that. :p
L1087[13:43:19] <Kenny> Sangar: what happened to the recipe images i did?
L1088[13:43:26] <Kilobyte> outdated
L1089[13:43:26] <Kilobyte> :P
L1090[13:44:30] <Kilobyte> anyways, i am off for shower
L1091[13:45:35] <Bizzycola> I cooked them because I thought they were food
L1092[13:45:42] <Bizzycola> I then proceeded to eat them
L1093[13:45:50] <Bizzycola> And there is no more recipe images
L1094[13:46:00] <ShadowKatStudios> "Most countries' legal systems now define "dead" as an irreversible cessation of brain function. One reason this became necessary was that, under older "cessation of heartbeat" definitions, a criminal who'd received a heart transplant could hypothetically have argued that they were legally dead (because their original heart had permanently ceased to beat) and couldn't be prosecuted. "
L1095[13:46:16] <ShadowKatStudios> I found that interesting. Too bad it isn't in effect anymore.
L1096[13:46:26] <Bizzycola> lol
L1097[13:46:36] <Vexatos> That is all you need for a computer: http://puu.sh/9WvH9/9a4a7149ab.png
L1098[13:46:39] <Bizzycola> Oh I had a heart transplant, I'm dead. You can't send me to jail!
L1099[13:46:47] <Bizzycola> I wonder how often that line worked.. :p
L1100[13:47:17] <Bizzycola> cool recipe stuffs
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L1102[13:48:26] <Raga> ShadowKatStudios: That is interesting stuff, indeed.
L1103[13:48:27] <ShadowKatStudios> I would get a heart transplant ASAP if that was still in effect, then have a go at the US military.
L1104[13:48:35] <Bizzycola> lol
L1105[13:49:03] <Raga> ShadowKatStudios: Why have a go to US Military?
L1106[13:49:11] <Bizzycola> government would fake your death, kidnap you and throw you in dirty prison
L1107[13:49:19] <Bizzycola> they dun care how many dead hearts you have
L1108[13:49:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Because the US is a pain, and I'm in Australia.
L1109[13:49:48] <Vexatos> Loving this: http://puu.sh/9WvTE/52b8e09f96.png
L1110[13:50:10] <Bizzycola> Got enough iron there? :p
L1111[13:50:43] <Raga> Vexatos: Is that the *exact* amount for a computer?
L1112[13:50:52] <Vexatos> Yep
L1113[13:50:58] <Vexatos> The exactly exact
L1114[13:51:13] <Vexatos> Like I mentioned in that crafting tutorial :3
L1115[13:51:20] <Vexatos> (Hard recipe mode=
L1116[13:51:22] <Vexatos> )
L1117[13:51:25] <Sangar> are you scaring people with the hardmode recipes again? :P
L1118[13:51:31] <Vexatos> Yesh
L1119[13:51:42] <Bizzycola> lol
L1120[13:51:44] <Vexatos> I finally got enough stuff to build one
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L1122[13:51:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I remember when hardmode was default
L1123[13:52:02] <Vexatos> Now to get 39x a water bucket
L1124[13:52:04] <Bizzycola> That must be fun
L1125[13:52:09] * Sangar whistles innocently
L1126[13:52:12] <Vexatos> Let's move this crafting table next to a water source \o/
L1127[13:52:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I built a T3 in hardmode once.
L1128[13:52:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Not fun.
L1129[13:52:29] <Bizzycola> Only problem I have with the default config is every time I start a server or install fresh copy I forget to turn off the buffer thing
L1130[13:52:34] <Bizzycola> then I'm like "NOWAITWHY"
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L1132[13:53:14] <Bizzycola> then I have to restart entire game
L1133[13:53:38] <Bizzycola> I've never so much as built a keyboard in survival
L1134[13:53:40] <Bizzycola> far too lazy :D
L1135[13:53:51] <robhol> what bugger thing?
L1136[13:53:54] <robhol> buffer..
L1137[13:54:01] <Bizzycola> the hard drive buffer thing
L1138[13:54:15] <Bizzycola> Like..if you don't turn it off it becomes much more annoying to edit the programs outside of MC
L1139[13:54:26] <robhol> oh
L1140[13:54:30] <Bizzycola> Because I usually use notepad++ to modify them so I don't have to write stuff ingame
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L1142[13:55:10] <Bizzycola> I should open mc. Not to play it, but just so my computer acts as a heater. it's cold in here!
L1143[13:55:16] <robhol> I wonder if I'll ever start a computer-focused MP server. My plan was CC, but for obvious reasons, that's not a good idea
L1144[13:55:46] <Bizzycola> It's like SA-MP VS mta but with computer mods! :p
L1145[13:55:50] <robhol> lol
L1146[13:55:51] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9Wwev/7c26bba3f0.png
L1147[13:55:52] <Vexatos> :3
L1148[13:56:09] <Bizzycola> :p
L1149[13:56:27] <robhol> actually, it's surprisingly familiar. Not that I'm comparing the CC devs to that Aussie shitstain
L1150[13:56:48] <Bizzycola> Which aussie? :p
L1151[13:57:05] <Bizzycola> OC is open source
L1152[13:57:13] <Bizzycola> makes it much better instantly :p
L1153[13:57:42] <robhol> The guy responsible for 99% of the drama behind SA-MP? Kye or whatever
L1154[13:57:51] <ShadowKatStudios> robhol: I'd take offense at that comment, but few of my countrymen are much use, honeslty. :P
L1155[13:57:56] <Bizzycola> Ah I wouldn't know about that
L1156[13:58:12] <Bizzycola> Yea I'm australian and I'm not much use now am I? :p
L1157[13:58:12] <ShadowKatStudios> What is SA-MP?
L1158[13:58:20] <Bizzycola> Multiplayer mod for gta:sa
L1159[13:58:21] <robhol> lol, see? *hides*
L1160[13:58:28] <robhol> a crappy one.
L1161[13:58:37] <Bizzycola> MTA:SA is far better in terms of everything ever
L1162[13:58:51] <robhol> and the developer's crappier, and a total drama queen/internet dictator.
L1163[13:58:57] <Bizzycola> Even it's slogan. "MultiTheftAuto: Stop playing with yourself!"
L1164[13:59:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Bizzycola: I'd say you're one of the 100 people in Australia that knows what IRC is if that makes any difference
L1165[13:59:06] <Bizzycola> lol maybe
L1166[13:59:12] <robhol> anyway, didn't mean to insinuate anything against australians. Just that guy :3
L1167[13:59:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Haha, I think I get that reference :P
L1168[13:59:34] <Bizzycola> hehe maybe
L1169[14:00:27] <robhol> is that an actual in-game reference? One of the british dudes :p
L1170[14:00:57] <Bizzycola> "When the inventor of the USB stick dies they'll gently lower the coffin, then pull it back up, turn it the other way, then lower it again." lol
L1171[14:01:36] <Bizzycola> "["hip","hip"]" hehe
L1172[14:02:09] <ShadowKatStudios> I wasn't thinking of a game reference
L1173[14:02:31] <ShadowKatStudios> If you add 2 to the value of the third letter you get the name of the song
L1174[14:04:30] <Bizzycola> https://buckysroom.org/photos/users/131/resized/b522d1fc1ca8e187fb60a8f59441a66f.jpg That face
L1175[14:05:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Good morning!
L1176[14:05:32] <Bizzycola> Mornin
L1177[14:05:47] <ShadowKatStudios> That's somewhat scary
L1178[14:06:20] <Bizzycola> Yea kinda :p
L1179[14:08:13] * ShadowKatStudios returns to looking for wallpapers with Nagato in them
L1180[14:10:59] <Vexatos> I am at the PCBs already \o/
L1181[14:11:13] <Vexatos> This is so easy with my flowchart thingie
L1182[14:11:14] <Vexatos> o.O
L1183[14:11:51] <Kilobyte> Sangar: aren't hardmode the default recipes?
L1184[14:11:55] <Kilobyte> it seems like that
L1185[14:11:56] <Kilobyte> jk
L1186[14:12:12] <Sangar> you aint seen nothin yet :P
L1187[14:12:37] <Kenny> Sangar, you quoting song titles now? :P
L1188[14:12:55] <Sangar> when it fits :P
L1189[14:13:11] <Vexatos> And I even find some more errors
L1190[14:13:13] <Vexatos> in ym spreadsheet
L1191[14:13:44] <Sangar> Kilobyte, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/370#discussion_r14561230
L1192[14:13:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: also, yeah, my NEI to HTML thing will prob be interactive (like the NEI recipe UI)
L1193[14:14:18] <Sangar> will it autoupload images and generate markdown for the github wiki? :D
L1194[14:14:30] <Kilobyte> hmm
L1195[14:14:44] <Kilobyte> markdown cannot embed javascript
L1196[14:14:51] <Kilobyte> so you'd prob need an iframe
L1197[14:15:03] <Sangar> what would you need js for?
L1198[14:15:26] <Kenny> variable evaluation
L1199[14:16:36] <Kenny> wait... the wiki uses markdown not markup?
L1200[14:16:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: interactivity
L1201[14:16:54] <Kilobyte> it will not be one huge long list
L1202[14:17:08] <Kilobyte> but rather on left you can select item/block and it shows recipe
L1203[14:17:12] <Sangar> oic
L1204[14:17:25] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny, it uses Git's Markdown
L1205[14:17:31] <Kilobyte> *gihubts
L1206[14:17:35] <Kilobyte> s/t//
L1207[14:17:44] <Sangar> Kenny, markdown is markup :>
L1208[14:17:46] <Kilobyte> actually, i typo'd that fully
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L1210[14:18:20] <Kilobyte> anyways, i am off to phone, gotta go to hairdresser
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L1212[14:18:33] <Kenny> too dang many languages for internet shit
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L1214[14:18:47] <Sangar> lol
L1215[14:18:56] <Kilobyte> markdown is epic
L1216[14:18:56] <Kilobyte> :P
L1217[14:19:16] <Kilobyte> just when i usually do text stuff i usually intuitively use markdown
L1218[14:19:43] <Kilobyte> the cool part about markdown: its very easy to read
L1219[14:20:06] <Sangar> yup
L1220[14:20:12] <ShadowKatStudios> If anyone wants a hint about the next chapter: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceshipGirl
L1221[14:20:33] <Kenny> but i is just an old man, learning 4 languages would really be a pita
L1222[14:21:14] <Kenny> learning lua and java now is confucing enough hehe
L1223[14:21:14] <Vexatos> 4 stacks and 12 transistors: Done \o/
L1224[14:22:05] <Kilobyte> Kenny: only 4? i can into 14
L1225[14:22:08] <Kilobyte> xD
L1226[14:22:21] <Kenny> i said "learning" 4 at once
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L1228[14:23:04] <Kenny> because on top of lua nad java, i would need to learn Scala and the difference between markup and markdown
L1229[14:23:37] <Kenny> i know html but nothing about markdown
L1230[14:23:56] <Kilobyte> markup is a category of languages
L1231[14:24:21] <Kilobyte> html belongs into that category, as does markdown
L1232[14:24:29] <Vexatos> Sangar: Your Material showing thing is completely broken D:
L1233[14:24:41] <Sangar> lies!
L1234[14:24:50] <Kenny> i agree
L1235[14:24:58] <Kenny> he don't know how to use it :P
L1236[14:25:18] <Sangar> seriously tho, what's supposedly broken?
L1237[14:25:37] <Vexatos> We'll see when I'm done crafting
L1238[14:25:49] <Vexatos> I suspect I need more Nether quartz than I have
L1239[14:26:22] <Kenny> and I suspect there might be a key mapping conflict if it doesn't work
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L1242[14:32:19] <gamax92> Sangar: o/
L1243[14:32:37] <Sangar> \o
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L1247[14:35:33] <Vexatos> I started crafting this computer one hour ago
L1248[14:35:35] <Vexatos> Just FYI
L1249[14:35:38] <gamax92> :| Where is LuaJ's license
L1250[14:36:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Vexatos: Tip: Set up an automated system
L1251[14:36:28] <ShadowKatStudios> IIRC there's a part of the recipe that doesn't allow it but besides that...
L1252[14:36:32] <Vexatos> Where would be the fun in that
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L1254[14:36:40] <Vexatos> I love this
L1255[14:36:43] <gamax92> so theres no file called "copying" or "license" in the src archive.
L1256[14:36:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Also, what's cooler, an airship, or some form of heavier-than-air aircraft?
L1257[14:37:52] <Bizzycola> obvious latter
L1258[14:37:58] <Bizzycola> flying aircraft carrier ftw
L1259[14:39:16] <gamax92> oh, its MIT.
L1260[14:39:54] <ShadowKatStudios> airships have actually been used as flying aircraft carriers, while planes have had limited success.
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L1262[14:40:37] <gamax92> I wonder why Flans planes are so glitchy
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L1264[14:42:42] <ShadowKatStudios> because flan, one assumes
L1265[14:42:48] <ShadowKatStudios> it's still been around for forever.
L1266[14:43:00] <Vexatos> Sangar: Recipe suggestion
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L1268[14:43:14] <Vexatos> OpenOS floppy inside crafting grid-> OpenOS floppy
L1269[14:43:21] <Kenny> use Archimede's Ships
L1270[14:43:22] <Vexatos> Useful if you want to update your OS
L1271[14:43:32] <Sangar> Vexatos, the floppy is autoupdated
L1272[14:43:52] <istasi> but what if you dont wanna upgrade for whatever retarded reason?
L1273[14:43:53] <istasi> :P
L1274[14:43:55] <ShadowKatStudios> okay, so I have to touch 2 places at once on the mousepad to scroll in Winderps 8
L1275[14:44:03] <gamax92> then don't upgrade
L1276[14:44:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Use your installed copy.
L1277[14:44:14] <Vexatos> Sangar: Well, from beta 1 to rc1 it didn't seem to have updated
L1278[14:44:21] <Kenny> it was just stated they AUTO upgrade
L1279[14:44:49] <Sangar> Vexatos, well, no if it's installed on a disk, no. but the loot disks always have the data that's in the jar.
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L1281[14:45:08] <Vexatos> DONE!
L1282[14:45:10] <Vexatos> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
L1283[14:45:20] <Vexatos> Sangar: That's what I meant
L1284[14:45:27] <Vexatos> If you want to update your own OS
L1285[14:45:38] <Vexatos> Without crafting a new book
L1286[14:45:41] <Vexatos> well, it's just a book
L1287[14:45:49] <Kenny> i'm still tracking down how to do a listbox in a GUI screen
L1288[14:46:02] <Vexatos> Okay
L1289[14:46:05] <gamax92> uhh, you could just upgrade OC, and now your existing already crafted floppy is also upgraded
L1290[14:46:09] <Vexatos> Sangar: You didn't miscalculate anything
L1291[14:46:19] <Vexatos> 3 gold ingots and 2 gold nuggets miscalculation
L1292[14:46:20] <gamax92> no need to put it in a crafting table to do nothing.
L1293[14:46:22] <Vexatos> Pretty good
L1294[14:46:30] <Sangar> Vexatos, but it's nearly impossible to see if a hard drive contains openos or not without tremendous effort
L1295[14:47:00] <Sangar> just keep the original openos disk lying around and use that to reinstall
L1296[14:47:16] <Vexatos> That's what I meant
L1297[14:47:25] <Vexatos> I grabbed a crafted OpenOS floppy
L1298[14:47:26] <Sangar> now i'm confused
L1299[14:47:27] <Vexatos> didn't update
L1300[14:47:35] <Sangar> that's... technically impossible
L1301[14:47:37] <Vexatos> Would need to re-craft with a book
L1302[14:47:42] <Vexatos> But that's fine
L1303[14:47:43] <Vexatos> :)
L1304[14:47:45] <Vexatos> Neermind
L1305[14:47:47] <Vexatos> *Nevermind
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L1307[14:48:31] <gamax92> pong: Remember, cast double to floats, because precision ;)
L1308[14:49:19] <Sangar> the disk would have had to spontaneously decide to be a rw disk and copy itself to the saves dir... and... there's no code for that in oc. no idea how that could have happened :X
L1309[14:49:29] * Pontiac_AtWork chuckles
L1310[14:50:07] <Pontiac_AtWork> I got 'pinged' because you typed spontaneously. I get an alert on the word 'pont'.
L1311[14:52:12] <gamax92> I do wonder what pong was showing me regarding tostring, its not in BaseLib
L1312[14:52:43] <Pontiac_AtWork> In java, isn't tostring part of the language?
L1313[14:53:57] <ShadowKatStudios> What is a light, strong material that can be used for both frames and board-shaped-things?
L1314[14:54:02] zsh sets mode: +v on tgame14
L1315[14:54:10] <gamax92> carpenters fences
L1316[14:54:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Are those wooden?
L1317[14:55:00] <Pontiac_AtWork> All 'carpenters' toys are wooden, but you can put whatever block you want on them.
L1318[14:55:17] <Pontiac_AtWork> The carpenter blocks can be skinned, in other words.
L1319[14:55:21] <ShadowKatStudios> No, I mean real life :P
L1320[14:55:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Like, a light strong material for building stuff IRL
L1321[14:55:54] <ShadowKatStudios> D: A mosquito
L1322[14:55:56] <Pontiac_AtWork> Whats real life? .. Plastics can be light.
L1323[14:56:05] <Pontiac_AtWork> Bitch to make though.
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L1325[14:56:46] <Kenny> ash would be what you need
L1326[14:57:18] <Kenny> light as pine wood but a lot stronger. it's the wood used in baseball bats
L1327[14:57:27] <Pontiac_AtWork> Ash wood? Not exactly the strongest material, but easy to work with. I guess it'd depend on what you're trying to build.
L1328[14:57:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Aircraft. What would I use to build aircraft?
L1329[14:58:08] <Kenny> model aircraft?
L1330[14:59:06] <Pontiac_AtWork> Is it going to fly?
L1331[14:59:08] <Kenny> if it's a spaceship, i do a little research hehe
L1332[14:59:15] <Kilobyte> and i'm back
L1333[14:59:17] <Pontiac_AtWork> WB
L1334[14:59:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Small single-seater aircraft
L1335[14:59:22] <Kilobyte> Sangar: did you fix already or shall i?
L1336[14:59:42] <Kenny> to do that you use more than one material
L1337[14:59:48] <Sangar> Kilobyte, the fs stuff? just pushed it :)
L1338[14:59:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I figured that much :P
L1339[14:59:53] <Kilobyte> ah, k
L1340[15:00:04] <Kenny> build the planes frame out of pine and cover it with fiberglass cloth
L1341[15:00:15] <Vexatos> Do cables support FMP?
L1342[15:00:15] <Pontiac_AtWork> So a real aircraft? Hmm... Carbon fibrer.
L1343[15:00:27] <Kenny> yes
L1344[15:00:59] <Kenny> Vex, yes they do
L1345[15:01:04] <Vexatos> Nice
L1346[15:01:43] <gamax92> duct-tape
L1347[15:01:54] <ShadowKatStudios> It's hard to stick to hard science fiction when you're also trying to have small aircraft launching off a medium-sized hybrid airship
L1348[15:01:55] <Kenny> SKS: it is funny you are asking about that right at this time
L1349[15:02:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Why is that?
L1350[15:02:27] <Kenny> this is the web page i'm reading: http://www.instructables.com/id/Complete-Guide-to-Building-Your-First-DIY-RC-Foamb/step27/Armin-Wing-p1/
L1351[15:02:52] <Kenny> how to build an RC-contolled model airplane
L1352[15:03:14] <Kenny> so GET OUT OF MY HEAD! hehe
L1353[15:03:26] <ShadowKatStudios> lol
L1354[15:03:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm not in your head.
L1355[15:03:48] <Kenny> not only that, I have a Pilot's License :P
L1356[15:03:49] <Pontiac_AtWork> I hate when my wife does that to me. I'm walking upstairs to tell her something, and just as I enter, she tells me what I'm about to say.
L1357[15:04:00] <Pontiac_AtWork> So I just turn around and go back into my dungeon.
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L1359[15:04:11] <gamax92> How to build (X): You will need, 1 (X), and 1 brain.
L1360[15:05:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm, if a 75-meter hybrid airship can lift 1,900 KG... Hmm...
L1361[15:05:45] <Pontiac_AtWork> Is this for one of your stories?
L1362[15:06:10] * ShadowKatStudios wonders how much your average 2U Sun server machine would weigh
L1363[15:06:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes, it is actually
L1364[15:06:24] <ShadowKatStudios> How did you guess?
L1365[15:06:29] <Kenny> SKS: make up a material
L1366[15:06:47] <Kenny> and i already figured it out way back...
L1367[15:07:03] <Kenny> just kept leading you along :) hehe
L1368[15:07:07] <Kilobyte> Sangar: k, i figured out how it will work. the thing grabs a json file via whatever and generate all the info from it
L1369[15:07:24] <Kilobyte> the entire thing will be ruby btw
L1370[15:07:25] <ShadowKatStudios> But... I want a good explanation of what it is. Meh, I'll add small fighters to a larger airship.
L1371[15:07:37] <Pontiac_AtWork> Well, at first, was thinking that you were making a model aircraft of sorts. Then you mentioned a single seater, which meant you're looking for real materials. Then you stalk about a hybrid airship and was like 'hmmmm.... Not familiar of any existing airships in todays time....'
L1372[15:07:41] <Kilobyte> <3 opal
L1373[15:07:43] <Sangar> Kilobyte, why am i not surprised? :P
L1374[15:07:51] <ShadowKatStudios> This one will just have cannons.
L1375[15:08:01] <Kilobyte> Sangar: good question :P
L1376[15:08:02] <Pontiac_AtWork> stalk=talk.
L1377[15:08:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, Pontiac, there are at least 5 hybrid airships in operation at this time.
L1378[15:08:36] <Pontiac_AtWork> Welcome news to me. I'll go talk to Google about that.
L1379[15:09:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh, these ones have a top speed of 125km/h, that's faster than most cars I've been in
L1380[15:09:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Heh, espeically the ute, we got it up to 90km once, then we had to wait half an hour for it to cool down
L1381[15:09:47] <Pontiac_AtWork> I don't think I've ever driven a car that WILL NOT get to beyond 125.
L1382[15:10:00] <Pontiac_AtWork> The legality of testing comes into question... but...
L1383[15:10:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, the cars my family drive are from the 80s or 90s because we're too cheap to get new ones.
L1384[15:10:53] <v^> gamax92, its in LuaDouble
L1385[15:11:03] <Kilobyte> Sangar: let me tell you something. ruby is evil. it instantly brainwashes you when you use it, because its so simple and sexy
L1386[15:11:18] <Sangar> uhuh :P
L1387[15:11:40] <v^> if i cant figure out exactly what a language is doing when i use it, facu
L1388[15:11:50] <Kenny> SKS: i have never owned a car that was new. all of mine have been at least 10 years old or better
L1389[15:12:11] <gamax92> v^: oh eww
L1390[15:12:12] <Pontiac_AtWork> I owned an 87 Camaro with a 2.7L engine with a 5 speed. I red-lined in 5th heading down a highway. I guestimate close to 200km/hr as the speedo stops reading at 170 and my needle was pointing straight down BEYOND 170. 170 was at about 4 o'clock and the needle was pointing at 6 o'clock.
L1391[15:12:18] <v^> exept LuaJIT, that stuff is black magic
L1392[15:12:22] <v^> <3
L1393[15:12:30] <gamax92> but seriously why floats
L1394[15:12:43] <v^> because the creator was on crack
L1395[15:12:57] <v^> and wanted to know how he could piss off the most people
L1396[15:13:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm, so a Sun Fire V240 weighs 12.5kg, I think that'd fit on an airship with a cargo capacity of 1900kg
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L1398[15:13:28] <v^> oh yeah, lets completely break compatibility and truncate numbers when you tostring them
L1399[15:13:31] <Kenny> had a 68 Plymouth Fury with a bluprinted 440 in it. Top Speed was 225+. radar gun didn't go any higher then 225
L1400[15:13:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Wait, no, 18.7kg
L1401[15:13:53] <Kenny> car was borderline street legal
L1402[15:14:34] <Pontiac_AtWork> I'm not so much a mopar fan, but most vehicles from that era were damned sexy.
L1403[15:14:38] <Kilobyte> Sangar: you'll actually be able to add own recipe thingies
L1404[15:14:45] <Kilobyte> all you need is a bit of haml skill
L1405[15:15:07] <ShadowKatStudios> My dad has a 1974 Holden Premier, it looks nice, on the outside, but the inside is terrible.
L1406[15:15:20] <Kenny> this thing was a boat. I'm 6'3" and could almost lay down flat across the seat
L1407[15:15:40] <v^> id just like a car that can move me from one place to another in the most efficient way possible >_> idgaf if it looks pretty
L1408[15:16:04] <Sangar> Kilobyte, like custom recipes not necessarily enabled / in a mod? makes sense. not that i know any haml, but iirc it looked simple enough :P
L1409[15:16:04] <Kenny> who needs a car, a bike will do it to
L1410[15:16:19] <ShadowKatStudios> I want a helicopter.
L1411[15:16:22] <Kilobyte> Sangar: nah, if you have a custom machine
L1412[15:16:36] <v^> which is why i actually prefer riding my bike rather than have people drive me >_>
L1413[15:16:41] <Sangar> i want a teleportation device
L1414[15:16:57] <Kenny> grab LC hehe
L1415[15:16:59] <Kilobyte> like, lets say you add a custom furnace that only allows special recipes
L1416[15:17:06] <gamax92> lc?
L1417[15:17:09] <Kenny> use the gates :)
L1418[15:17:15] <Sangar> Kilobyte, ah
L1419[15:17:17] <gamax92> oh, that
L1420[15:17:20] <Kenny> LC = LanteaCraft
L1421[15:17:24] * gamax92 just gets an AMI
L1422[15:17:41] <Sangar> just lemme install that in my real life simulation real qui- oh wait :P
L1423[15:17:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Sangar: Teleportation would require decent internet speeds, which is not available in parts of the world (meaning Australia)
L1424[15:18:09] <Sangar> hahaha
L1425[15:18:33] <Sangar> quantum entanglement all the way, screw this oldskool thing called internet
L1426[15:18:34] <Kenny> actually a telporation device is wireless
L1427[15:19:14] <Sangar> although... quantum entanglement would bring 'instant drama' to a whole new level
L1428[15:19:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I was going with mollecular reassembling, but I guess if you can get quantum entanglement working, sure.
L1429[15:19:28] <Kenny> and if you look at the teleporter from Star Trek, it required no Receiving device
L1430[15:20:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Kenny: Can you define Star Trek as hard science fiction?
L1431[15:22:39] <Kenny> no clue
L1432[15:22:51] <ShadowKatStudios> the answer is no :P
L1433[15:24:03] <Kodos|Zzz> I love it when I sleep so deeply, I wake up in a panic because I think I slept through my alarm, only to find that I'm up 3-4 hours before my alarm's set to go off
L1434[15:25:28] <v^> ikr
L1435[15:25:29] <v^> >_>
L1436[15:26:15] <Kodos|Zzz> I actually slept -really- good, so I don't mind the near heart attack upon waking up
L1437[15:28:29] <Vexatos> Computer is done
L1438[15:28:34] <Vexatos> Now to craft the Internet card
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L1440[15:32:52] <Kodos> Did I miss anything
L1441[15:33:27] <Kenny> quite a few things. but nothing significant
L1442[15:33:48] <Kodos> Okay, good. It's very important I don't miss things to do with OC
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L1444[15:39:21] <v^> oc is boring when you are implementing LuaJ bugs
L1445[15:39:30] <vifino> _.
L1446[15:39:33] <vifino> ._.*
L1447[15:39:56] <Kodos> Is v^ still on about the math.random
L1448[15:40:05] <v^> Kodos, nope
L1449[15:40:08] <v^> new bugs
L1450[15:40:13] <v^> like, precision :D
L1451[15:40:35] <Vexatos> What
L1452[15:40:39] <Vexatos> You don't use up the colour
L1453[15:40:41] <Vexatos> the dye
L1454[15:40:45] <Vexatos> when colouring a computer
L1455[15:40:47] <Vexatos> Nice!
L1456[15:40:52] * Vexatos thanks Sangar
L1457[15:41:19] <Pontiac_AtWork> You can color computers?
L1458[15:42:28] <Sangar> yeah, they're not used up because i cba to make cases and screens drop nbt-tagged items to store the color :P
L1459[15:42:53] <Kodos> I always dye my computers red :3
L1460[15:43:05] <Sangar> i like lime :>
L1461[15:46:28] <Vexatos> <--Lime and cyan, usually
L1462[15:46:37] <Vexatos> This time it's cyan
L1463[15:48:52] <Kodos> I love how troubleshooting 99% of peoples' redstone program issues involves telling them to switch from sides.right to sides.left
L1464[15:48:53] <Kodos> or vice versa
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L1466[15:50:02] <gamax92> sides.left, sides.right = sides.right, sides.left -- Fix redstone issue.s
L1467[15:50:17] <Kodos> Pretty much, but
L1468[15:50:20] <v^> gamax92, LuaJ is amazing, i now have -0.0
L1469[15:50:22] <Kodos> To put the logic for it in perspective
L1470[15:50:32] <gamax92> v^: why not fix
L1471[15:50:37] <Kodos> When you're looking at a car from the front, is the driver side door now the passenger side door?
L1472[15:51:10] <v^> gamax92, >_> too easy
L1473[15:51:17] <v^> its like one function
L1474[15:51:24] <gamax92> then fix
L1475[15:51:25] <Sangar> Kodos, no, but the car's right door is on your left.
L1476[15:51:26] <v^> >_>
L1477[15:51:27] <v^> nou
L1478[15:51:34] <Kodos> Exactly
L1479[15:51:35] <gamax92> okay, tell me how to fix
L1480[15:51:38] <Kodos> That was my point, sangar
L1481[15:51:45] <Sangar> oh, sorry then :P
L1482[15:51:51] <Kodos> the doors don't change just because -you're- looking at it from a new angle
L1483[15:51:52] <v^> google how to get non-crappy Float.tostring output
L1484[15:52:02] <Sangar> yep.
L1485[15:52:08] <gamax92> Don't Double's have toString?
L1486[15:52:26] <v^> dont use that one either >_>
L1487[15:52:26] <Kenny> use formatting
L1488[15:52:39] <gamax92> v^: then cba
L1489[15:52:40] <Sangar> String.valueOf(double)?
L1490[15:52:56] <Kilobyte> "" + double is whats commonly used
L1491[15:53:05] <gamax92> yeah, but stringbuilder.
L1492[15:53:11] <Kilobyte> even the java devs use that iirc
L1493[15:53:16] <gamax92> wot
L1494[15:53:25] <gamax92> but stringbuilder ...
L1495[15:53:44] <Kilobyte> .append("" + double)
L1496[15:54:02] <Sangar> oh, didn't know String.valueOf(dbl) is just an alias for Double.toString(dbl)
L1497[15:56:03] <gamax92> Magical Java Corn Flakes.
L1498[15:56:12] <Kilobyte> Sangar: what would be the scala way?
L1499[15:56:54] <gamax92> Cryptic Scala Marshmallow puffs.
L1500[15:56:58] <Sangar> .toString i'd think
L1501[15:57:37] <Kodos> Sangar is it possible to make a card addon that would only be able to go into a server
L1502[15:58:39] <Sangar> no. with a bit of hackery you could make one that'd only *work* in a server, tho.
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L1504[15:59:08] <Kodos> So I couldn't make, for example, server-grade memory sticks (Yes, I know that probably doesn't make sense)
L1505[15:59:36] <Kilobyte> Sangar: did external card cases ever become a thing?
L1506[15:59:40] <Bizzycola> The mod is open source, technically with enough hacking you could make server grade floating turtle heads if you wanted to :p
L1507[15:59:45] <Sangar> Kodos, mm, no, not as it is.
L1508[16:00:28] <Sangar> Kilobyte, not by my hand, because i think that's op and potentially weird (because multiple computers could use the same card) :P
L1509[16:00:42] <Kilobyte> hmmm
L1510[16:00:42] <Kilobyte> good point
L1511[16:00:53] <Kilobyte> but sometimes i just want more cards D:
L1512[16:00:57] <Kilobyte> hmmm
L1513[16:01:08] <Kilobyte> can a card represent multiple components?
L1514[16:01:14] <Sangar> write a decentralized os >_>
L1515[16:01:57] <Kilobyte> well, i could in theory write an addon that has a compound card. as in: it contains multiple cards but fits in one slot
L1516[16:01:59] <Sangar> uh... kinda. the internet card has its fs component, e.g.
L1517[16:02:12] <Sangar> yeah
L1518[16:02:39] <Kodos> Kilobyte, make a 'Creative Card' that has ALL the vanilla OC cards :3
L1519[16:02:44] <Kilobyte> xD
L1520[16:02:44] <Kodos> Well, without overlap anyway
L1521[16:02:51] <Sangar> :P
L1522[16:02:55] <Kodos> ie T2 Redstone but not T1
L1523[16:03:02] <Kodos> Wireless Network, but not network
L1524[16:03:02] <Kodos> etc
L1525[16:03:04] <Kilobyte> maybe with api that also allows addition of addon cards
L1526[16:03:08] <Sangar> and it will be called the swiss card
L1527[16:03:13] <Kodos> \o/
L1528[16:03:17] <Sangar> *swiss army card
L1529[16:03:17] <Kodos> Actually
L1530[16:03:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i approve
L1531[16:03:26] <Kodos> It should be called the American Card because we're all lazy fucks
L1532[16:03:31] <Bizzycola> lol
L1533[16:03:33] <Kodos> And having one card is easier
L1534[16:03:39] <Kilobyte> eww american card
L1535[16:03:48] * Kilobyte dislikes USA
L1536[16:03:52] <Bizzycola> The TNT card! It ex..uhh..does something..useful!
L1537[16:04:06] <Kilobyte> it actually does
L1538[16:04:13] <Bizzycola> You only craft it with tnt to make it go faster obviously
L1539[16:04:31] <gamax92> The useless card! It gives you access to 1 bit ram that doesn't persist.
L1540[16:04:37] <Bizzycola> lol
L1541[16:04:42] <Sangar> explosive propulsion system? can mak robots jump? :P
L1542[16:05:15] <Kilobyte> with a patched OpenOS it makes people who mount stuff as c: (PontatoTrumpet *cough*) lose their computer
L1543[16:05:26] <Bizzycola> TNT card. Coffee for your robot.
L1544[16:05:37] <Kilobyte> Sangar: can i haz api to give each new computer a specific card?
L1545[16:05:39] <gamax92> Card card. Acts like a card.
L1546[16:05:44] <Pontiac_AtWork> ... Pontanto?
L1547[16:05:47] <Kodos> What about the ability to create an explosion at x,y,z
L1548[16:05:57] <Kilobyte> *potato
L1549[16:05:59] <gamax92> Kodos: AMI's can do that.
L1550[16:06:10] <Kodos> gamax92, make an AMI for OC
L1551[16:06:15] <gamax92> hah
L1552[16:06:29] <gamax92> Sangar: how well does userdata in 1.3?
L1553[16:07:54] <Sangar> Kilobyte, well, i suppose passing the container it's intended for along in the worksFor method would be reasonable. remind me again when for 1.4 because i don't want to touch the api until then :P
L1554[16:08:14] <Sangar> gamax92, after some more testing, in the latest builds it should work quite well.
L1555[16:08:24] <gamax92> Kodos: ^
L1556[16:08:51] <JoshTheEnder> Bizzycola, the TNT card will be usefull for a certain vegetable.......
L1557[16:09:02] <Bizzycola> oic
L1558[16:09:04] <Sangar> to make fries?
L1559[16:09:48] <Kilobyte> sudo make fries
L1560[16:09:48] <JoshTheEnder> no, to make the computer blow up in potato's face when he tries to mount somewhere as C: in OC
L1561[16:10:11] <gamax92> Ahh, so now to fix a rendering bug that happens due to other mods and my improper injection.
L1562[16:10:14] <Sangar> and thus make fires. got it.
L1563[16:10:38] <Sangar> *fries
L1564[16:10:38] <gamax92> ./gradlew fries
L1565[16:10:42] <gamax92> lol, fires
L1566[16:10:56] <Sangar> well, it could be a side-effect :P
L1567[16:11:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Hah, I just realised, when they start the plane in this anime, the cylinder shaped gauge reads 'NOPE'
L1568[16:11:08] <gamax92> Introducing, the Sire persistence library.
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L1570[16:11:31] <Kilobyte> gradle fries
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L1572[16:12:30] <Bizzycola> yes the tnt chip will make fires :p
L1573[16:12:48] <Bizzycola> which I'm sure will result in(possibly burnt) fries
L1574[16:12:56] <gamax92> Would it be possible to persist luaj
L1575[16:13:17] <Sangar> gamax92, not unless you find a way to persist java threads
L1576[16:13:28] <Sangar> which i couldn't :P
L1577[16:13:43] <gamax92> Sangar: Then, I'll just hibernate the entire jvm :P
L1578[16:13:43] <Kodos> Sangar, what new shiny feature/toy are we getting next for OC :3
L1579[16:14:09] <gamax92> which actually would not work at all.
L1580[16:14:11] <Bizzycola> Giant death robots?
L1581[16:15:00] <Kilobyte> Sangar: woot goal
L1582[16:15:16] <Kilobyte> yes, coding + football == WIN
L1583[16:15:34] <istasi> better errors than "bad argument #1 (string, expected, got boolean)" and then nothing else ?
L1584[16:15:42] <Sangar> Kodos, dunno, some sort of portable computer thingy, probably balancing + testing the table prototype i have.
L1585[16:15:52] <Kodos> table prototype?
L1586[16:16:00] <Sangar> *tablet
L1587[16:16:01] <Sangar> :P
L1588[16:16:04] <Kodos> Oh lol
L1589[16:16:20] <Kodos> You said table, and I immediately had images of a war room table with 3D projections in my head
L1590[16:16:28] <Bizzycola> Table tablet! Bigger then the computer and even harder to move!
L1591[16:16:31] <Bizzycola> LIKE A BOSS.
L1592[16:16:32] <Sangar> Kilobyte, i'm totally not into football so idek who plays :P
L1593[16:16:42] <Kilobyte> Sangar: germany/france
L1594[16:16:53] <Vexatos> Noone cares
L1595[16:16:54] <Vexatos> :3
L1596[16:17:00] <Bizzycola> lol
L1597[16:17:02] <Kilobyte> i do.. sligtly
L1598[16:17:11] * Vexatos kicks Kilobyte
L1599[16:17:16] <Sangar> lol, portable table :P you have to push it around. kinda like a minecart, but without tracks :P
L1600[16:17:19] * Kodos is surprised France doesn't just wave a white flag and give Germany the win
L1601[16:17:31] <Kilobyte> as long as you don't slap me...
L1602[16:17:52] <Bizzycola> haha maybe
L1603[16:17:55] <Vexatos> Sangar: add that
L1604[16:17:56] <Vexatos> Now.
L1605[16:17:57] <Bizzycola> entity table tablet
L1606[16:18:00] <Bizzycola> sounds fun :p
L1607[16:18:10] <Bizzycola> If you push it down 2 blocks it shatters like glass :p
L1608[16:18:11] <Kilobyte> as a chest?
L1609[16:18:45] * Kodos wants a computer operated giant laser of death, that I can program with x,y,z coords to fire
L1610[16:18:51] <Bizzycola> lol
L1611[16:18:52] <Kilobyte> make it squeak as it gets moved
L1612[16:19:04] <gamax92> wtf ... totem and firefox's html5 player are playing these videos much faster than 1x
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L1614[16:19:55] <Sangar> oh, and you can put the table on a leash >_>
L1615[16:20:27] <gamax92> WHAT ARE YOU DOING TOTEM
L1616[16:20:31] <Kilobyte> damn, i cba to into html/css shiz
L1617[16:20:31] <gamax92> STAHP
L1618[16:21:37] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/9WET1/fdc2c978a5.jpg
L1619[16:21:49] <Bizzycola> table on a leash!
L1620[16:22:13] <Bizzycola> LOL I just imagined that. Walking a table around with a lease and it has a drawing of a dog or something o nthe screen
L1621[16:22:14] <Bizzycola> haha
L1622[16:22:20] <Bizzycola> leash
L1623[16:22:24] <Sangar> doesn't openblocks or some other mod have the discworld chest? can you put that on a leash?
L1624[16:22:28] <gamax92> wot even ffmpeg is playing this video too fast.
L1625[16:22:30] <gamax92> Sangar: halp
L1626[16:23:14] <Sangar> have you tried turning it off and on again? :P
L1627[16:23:24] <gamax92> yeah I'll probably just do that actually
L1628[16:23:49] <Bizzycola> computers are generally tile entities. How hard would it actually be to make an entity one? like the table? :p
L1629[16:24:19] <Bizzycola> Least it'd be inconspicuous. My server is also my dining table! :p
L1630[16:24:30] <Sangar> in 1.3 it's at least possible. whether it's hard or not is... subjective :P
L1631[16:24:39] <Bizzycola> I think I've seen computers built into tables before
L1632[16:24:41] <Bizzycola> Ah I see :p
L1633[16:25:05] <Kodos> v^, http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Validated-256-bit-Encrypted-ASK-256-32GB/dp/B00A9VABEU/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1404491068&sr=1-2&keywords=USB+Flash+Drive
L1634[16:25:09] <Bizzycola> One day out of the blue I will just release a mod full of ridiculous computers and robots of all sorts
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L1636[16:25:27] <Sangar> i'm looking forward to it ;)
L1637[16:25:35] <Bizzycola> It'd e more productive then what I do most of the tiem anyway lol
L1638[16:25:52] <Bizzycola> hopefully one of those random computers will be a giant death UAV :p
L1639[16:26:26] <ShadowKatStudios> So it's 2:30 AM
L1640[16:26:28] <Bizzycola> is like c-130 spectre, only uav so it looks like a predator drone, only giant and covered in large guns
L1641[16:26:29] <Bizzycola> lol
L1642[16:26:32] <Bizzycola> Yes indeed it is
L1643[16:26:32] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm gonna go to sleep.
L1644[16:26:35] <Bizzycola> Okay!
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L1646[16:26:39] <Kenny> story...
L1647[16:26:57] *** ShadowKatStudios is now known as SKSIsAsleep
L1648[16:27:04] <SKSIsAsleep> o/
L1649[16:27:07] <Bizzycola> I wonder if that helicopter mod with the UAVs and stuff is open source. That'd be epic
L1650[16:27:11] <Bizzycola> cya sks :p
L1651[16:27:13] <Kenny> KS: what did you think of the theme setup
L1652[16:27:18] <Kenny> SKS:*
L1653[16:27:37] <Bizzycola> If it falls do you think he'll give us the forum back? :p
L1654[16:27:42] <Bizzycola> oops wrong xchannel
L1655[16:27:50] <Kilobyte> Sangar: my first haml file is done!
L1656[16:28:06] <Kilobyte> https://gist.github.com/Kilobyte22/8cddcde78cfb72394ab5
L1657[16:28:12] <Kenny> ham? what did you do to pig?!
L1658[16:28:23] <Bizzycola> :P
L1659[16:28:24] <^v> Kilobyte, No desc Written in Haml by Kilobyte22 0.25KB
L1660[16:29:02] <Sangar> Kilobyte, i like how the !!! makes it seem super important
L1661[16:29:09] <gamax92> jtrsdt8390ujsdkotjur9rjekthy80dsurdsji;rjew90thjisdhf9se0rjh4khsg9
L1662[16:29:17] <gamax92> Why was my Radeon Card selection for audio output
L1663[16:29:32] <Kilobyte> Sangar: lol its actually just the <!DOCTYPE html> replacement#
L1664[16:30:09] <Bizzycola> well the doctype is super important! :p
L1665[16:30:12] <gamax92> ... Why is my Radeon Card even capable of audio.
L1666[16:30:18] <Bizzycola> I dunno :p
L1667[16:30:22] <Sangar> hdmi?
L1668[16:30:36] <gamax92> yeah it said HDMI
L1669[16:30:43] <Kenny> Sangar: has to be that. My NVidia card has sound because of HDMI
L1670[16:30:55] <Kilobyte> my shitty radeon has too
L1671[16:30:56] <Bizzycola> Well HDMI without sound would be quite annoying :p
L1672[16:31:15] <Kenny> one drawback Bizzy
L1673[16:31:18] <Kilobyte> yeah, its called "Internal Analog Audio (HDMI)" in pavucontrol
L1674[16:31:29] <gamax92> I wonder If I can kill that, probably some kernel flag I can pass
L1675[16:31:41] <Bizzycola> Why do you want to? :p
L1676[16:31:42] <Kenny> the damn video card takes control of the audio and will not let you turn it down thru the OS
L1677[16:31:51] <Bizzycola> Yea that is a huge pain in the FOOT
L1678[16:31:52] <Pontiac_AtWork> Analog audio via HDMI? Interesting.
L1679[16:31:56] <gamax92> So that it will never do that
L1680[16:31:59] <gamax92> and I don't use it
L1681[16:32:22] <Bizzycola> its easy. Get a good surround sound system with your tv
L1682[16:32:33] <Bizzycola> connect hdmi to tv, speakers to the computer and swap the primary audio device
L1683[16:32:35] <gamax92> Yes, I want a TV on my desk.
L1684[16:32:48] * Kodos wants a sensor for OC
L1685[16:33:00] <Kenny> i have a 32" flat screen tv for a monitor
L1686[16:33:04] <Bizzycola> Nice
L1687[16:33:10] <Bizzycola> I have a 24" monitor :p
L1688[16:33:19] <Kenny> i have one of those too hehe
L1689[16:33:23] <Bizzycola> haha nic
L1690[16:33:26] <Bizzycola> I'd like 3 of these
L1691[16:33:29] <Bizzycola> that'd be most fun
L1692[16:33:30] <Kenny> sits right next to the 32"
L1693[16:33:30] <Pontiac_AtWork> HDMI is a digital technology sending 1s and 0s. Something is converting it outside the HDMI protocol, otherwise you'd have wire pairs for every speaker.
L1694[16:33:35] <Bizzycola> You know, if I could connect that many to my laptop :p
L1695[16:33:45] <Bizzycola> Maybe when my desktop is built
L1696[16:34:13] <gamax92> or, perhaps instead of doing DAC -> ADC -> DAC -> ADC, you just DAC -> ADC
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L1699[16:34:43] <gamax92> v|ownotdownthecenterpls|^: k
L1700[16:35:23] <Bizzycola> lol
L1701[16:36:52] <v^> * You are now known as v|ownotdownthecenterpls|^
L1702[16:36:56] <v^> derp
L1703[16:41:36] <Kodos> Why are all the good novelty USB thumb drives superlow capacity
L1704[16:42:48] <Bizzycola> To annoy you! :p
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L1707[16:43:56] <Bizzycola> Wow. It finally happened..
L1708[16:44:02] <Bizzycola> The battery light is blinking on my keyboard
L1709[16:44:06] <Bizzycola> I've never seen such a thing!
L1710[16:44:19] <Bizzycola> Seeing as the mouse eats its batteries like candy..
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L1712[16:52:46] <Kilobyte> Sangar: the code for shaped recipes are done \O/
L1713[16:53:10] <Sangar> nice, that was quick
L1714[16:53:28] <Kilobyte> well, the framework isn't xD
L1715[16:53:53] <asie> Sangar: How does GameProfile work in 1.7.10?
L1716[16:53:58] <Kilobyte> EWWWWW
L1717[16:54:04] <Kilobyte> winderps phone commercials
L1718[16:54:09] * Kilobyte runs
L1719[16:55:01] <Kilobyte> Sangar: https://gist.github.com/Kilobyte22/4fd4a9a2307ffa62afad
L1720[16:55:02] <^v> Kilobyte, No desc Written in Ruby by Kilobyte22 0.38KB
L1721[16:55:19] <Sangar> asie, i haven't investigated further than generating a uuid instead of a name for robots just to get it build...
L1722[16:57:19] <Sangar> dinner, bbl
L1723[16:58:16] <v^> what sane person has dinner at 12 D:
L1724[16:58:59] <Pontiac_AtWork> Thats under the assumption he's sane.
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L1727[17:00:53] <Kodos> Dinner and breakfast consumption times are based on how long you've been awake before eating them
L1728[17:01:06] <Kodos> Breakfast, even at 4pm, is valid breakfast if you've been up for < 3 hours
L1729[17:02:38] <Pontiac_AtWork> Then again, breakfast is usually defined as the first meal of the day. I usually have one meal a day, so, does that mean that steak and potato meal is breakfast?
L1730[17:03:23] <Pontiac_AtWork> ... which I've actually had when I've been up for less than an hour, honestly. Love night shift, sleeping through the day, and the first thing I have is off the BBQ.
L1731[17:03:37] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i found a bug in the code i pushed i think
L1732[17:03:46] <Kilobyte> you cannot rename a file test to TEST
L1733[17:04:50] <Pontiac_AtWork> Filenames are case insensitive? That'd break things in an insensitive world (haw-haw?) but under Linux, that should be valid.
L1734[17:05:32] <Kilobyte> nono
L1735[17:05:44] <Kilobyte> they are only case insensitive if your OS is
L1736[17:05:44] <Kilobyte> :P
L1737[17:05:48] <Kenny> v^: maybe 12 where you are but it's 6pm where he is
L1738[17:06:04] <gamax92> I thought NTFS was case sensitive.
L1739[17:06:04] <Kilobyte> Pontiac_AtWork: ^
L1740[17:06:06] <gamax92> but windows
L1741[17:06:07] <Kilobyte> it is
L1742[17:06:07] <Pontiac_AtWork> Which is my point.
L1743[17:06:09] <Kilobyte> but windows
L1744[17:06:31] <Kilobyte> Pontiac_AtWork: i use linux myself
L1745[17:06:50] <Kilobyte> i love my case sensitive fs
L1746[17:06:51] <Kilobyte> :P
L1747[17:07:04] <Pontiac_AtWork> TEST.txt = test.txt as far as Windows is concerned. Which means its insensitive.
L1748[17:07:10] <Kilobyte> yes
L1749[17:07:19] <Kilobyte> but on linux its case sensitive
L1750[17:07:22] <Kilobyte> i am no stupid
L1751[17:07:26] <Kilobyte> *not
L1752[17:07:46] <gamax92> And on linux, I'll make folders called ... and windows explorer will crash.
L1753[17:07:56] <Kilobyte> *directories
L1754[17:08:02] <Kilobyte> on linux test and TEST are two completely different files
L1755[17:08:02] <Pontiac_AtWork> Never will I claim anyone being stupid. 'Cept idiots jumping off of roofs into the shallow end of a swimming pool.
L1756[17:08:18] <gamax92> Seriously, if you try to delete a directory called ..., explorer crashes.
L1757[17:08:23] <gamax92> atleast on win7
L1758[17:08:26] <Kilobyte> lol
L1759[17:08:35] <Kilobyte> i wonder what happens if your dir contains a \
L1760[17:08:38] <Pontiac_AtWork> I'm gonna try that in a VM sometimes.
L1761[17:08:43] <Pontiac_AtWork> -s
L1762[17:08:48] <gamax92> Kilobyte: well, thats NTFS iirc.
L1763[17:08:48] <Kilobyte> which is valid char in ntfs
L1764[17:08:52] <gamax92> oh ...
L1765[17:09:03] <Kilobyte> ntfs only has 2 invalid chars
L1766[17:09:07] <Kilobyte> / and \0
L1767[17:09:18] <Kilobyte> like any unix fs
L1768[17:09:19] <gamax92> then, I shall try it.
L1769[17:09:20] <Pontiac_AtWork> AFAIK you can't name a file with a colon.
L1770[17:09:26] <Kilobyte> you can
L1771[17:09:32] <Kilobyte> but windows won't let you
L1772[17:09:41] <gamax92> windows won't let you many things.
L1773[17:09:42] <Pontiac_AtWork> I get where you're going.
L1774[17:09:51] <Kilobyte> if you mount it from linux you can
L1775[17:09:53] <Pontiac_AtWork> NTFS lower level talk than Windows.
L1776[17:10:01] <v^> windows explorer wont let you name something with a . infront
L1777[17:10:07] <v^> so you have to use echo
L1778[17:10:10] <v^> which pisses me off
L1779[17:10:15] <gamax92> v^: you can do that in explorer, but with a trick.
L1780[17:10:16] <Pontiac_AtWork> THAT annoys me HUGE v.
L1781[17:10:21] <gamax92> I've forgotten said trick though.
L1782[17:10:34] <Kilobyte> $ mkdir '/mnt/ntfs/^:\\~#?!'
L1783[17:10:34] <Kilobyte> stephan@stephan-pc:~$
L1784[17:10:44] <Pontiac_AtWork> Minecraft stores its files by default in .minecraft
L1785[17:10:44] <gamax92> lol
L1786[17:10:58] <Pontiac_AtWork> So trying to recreate the directory structure.. no.. not gonna happen easily.
L1787[17:11:20] <Kilobyte> $ ls /mnt/ntfs | grep '^\^'
L1788[17:11:20] <Kilobyte> ^:\\~#?!
L1789[17:11:38] <gamax92> ahh right I remember it now, you have to also put a dot at the end of the name
L1790[17:11:39] <Kilobyte> aka works
L1791[17:11:48] <Kilobyte> or do it from cmd.exe
L1792[17:11:52] <gamax92> so like, .minecraft., and explorer will drop the last dot.
L1793[17:12:52] <gamax92> Kilobyte: okay, said folder now exists on my drive.
L1794[17:12:55] <Pontiac_AtWork> Filed in memory GA.
L1795[17:13:00] <Kilobyte> :P
L1796[17:13:47] <Pontiac_AtWork> I gotta minimize this for a bit as I have work to do.
L1797[17:14:59] <gamax92> Oh, I haz MSDOS 7.10 on here as well
L1798[17:16:29] <gamax92> Kilobyte: well, explorer didn't crash, it just does nothing at all.
L1799[17:17:53] <Kilobyte> tried opening the dir?
L1800[17:18:01] <Kilobyte> gamax92: ^
L1801[17:18:05] <gamax92> wouldn't open
L1802[17:18:11] <gamax92> windows complains that its invalid
L1803[17:18:16] <Kilobyte> lel
L1804[17:18:23] <gamax92> or well, that its not accessable
L1805[17:18:40] <Kilobyte> try deleting`
L1806[17:18:49] <gamax92> i did, nothing happened
L1807[17:18:57] <gamax92> no messages, but folder is still there
L1808[17:19:28] <gamax92> wonder if I can access it via the long unicode path thingy
L1809[17:24:50] <gamax92> GL11.glColor4f(1.0F, 1.0F, 1.0F, 1.0F);
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L1812[17:31:22] <gamax92> oi Techokami
L1813[17:31:28] <Techokami> ahoy
L1814[17:31:45] <Techokami> say gamax92, can you compile ForgeMultiPart for 1.7.10? :O
L1815[17:32:17] <gamax92> I'm trying to fix rendering bugs that are cause by my inability to inject rendering code at the right location.
L1816[17:32:26] <Techokami> ah
L1817[17:32:43] <gamax92> so, I'm just going to mask it by Setting the color back to white.
L1818[17:33:43] <gamax92> I also accidently made something that spammed the server every tick, because I didn't know that method A didn't return what I thought it did.
L1819[17:42:20] <gamax92> oh, well I'm stupid, I forgot that by using a not, I'm only rendering once, and not like 10 times every tick.
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L1821[17:43:46] <gamax92> hmm, perhaps I'll uniform the commands.
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L1823[17:51:58] <Kodos> ▐★▌ =D
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L1825[17:57:29] <gamax92> Kodos: whats that.
L1826[17:59:04] <v^> a potato
L1827[17:59:09] <Kodos> s/potato/flag
L1828[17:59:19] <gamax92> Memory connection overburdened; after processing 2500 packets, we still have 8966 to go!
L1829[18:05:29] <asie> hey, some news
L1830[18:05:32] <asie> i'm setting up a minecraft server
L1831[18:05:42] <asie> and it's 1.7.10, i finally caved in
L1832[18:06:08] <asie> modpack focusing on obscure mods, actually fleshed out, also computronics testing
L1833[18:07:14] <Kodos> Does that version of Computronics have the Creative Chat box, or just the regular ne
L1834[18:07:15] <Kodos> one*
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L1836[18:08:44] <Vexatos> Every version has the creative chat box
L1837[18:08:47] <Vexatos> Except 0.3
L1838[18:10:29] <Vexatos> WOW
L1839[18:10:31] <Vexatos> That's awesome
L1840[18:10:36] <Vexatos> asie, guess what I just found out
L1841[18:10:43] <Vexatos> you can colour the tape labels
L1842[18:10:49] <Vexatos> With vanilla colour codes
L1843[18:10:49] <asie> Vexatos: yes
L1844[18:10:52] <Vexatos> MWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
L1845[18:10:56] <asie> do you know
L1846[18:10:59] <asie> you can use multiple dyes
L1847[18:11:01] <asie> like leather?
L1848[18:11:03] <Vexatos> §kMWAHAHAHA
L1849[18:11:05] <asie> it's a feature that's been around since 0.1.0 or so
L1850[18:11:10] <asie> Vexatos: OH GOD THAT
L1851[18:11:14] <asie> I THOUGHT YOU MENAT DYEING TAPE COVERS
L1852[18:11:17] <Vexatos> No
L1853[18:11:17] <asie> OH SHIT
L1854[18:11:22] <Vexatos> Tape LABELS
L1855[18:11:29] <asie> �kCreepypasta
L1856[18:11:30] <asie> yes was
L1857[18:12:17] <Vexatos> http://puu.sh/9WMbl/861503beb5.png
L1858[18:12:22] <Vexatos> Awesome(tm)
L1859[18:17:11] <Vexatos> Wow, when I get my first nether star
L1860[18:17:30] <Vexatos> Make 64m tape->Write 1h nyan cat song-> label the thing "§kTrolololol"
L1861[18:17:42] <Vexatos> Place at server mate's base
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L1864[18:26:39] <Sangar> Kilobyte, hmm, i wouldn't even consider that a bug, really... that's just what you get for using a case insensitive fs :P
L1865[18:27:58] <asie> Sangar: Where's the 1.7.10 port of OC that you said you have somewhere?
L1866[18:28:11] <asie> well, not you said
L1867[18:28:13] <asie> someone said you have it
L1868[18:28:44] <Sangar> a few revisions back, and in a branch i'll push later. it breaks jenkins/on linux, so i reverted the main one back to 1.7.2 for now...
L1869[18:29:08] <asie> Sangar: so OC doesn't work at all on Linux for now?
L1870[18:29:19] <Sangar> oh it does, it just doesn't compile
L1871[18:29:26] <asie> Sangar: do you have a JAR around?
L1872[18:29:32] <Sangar> because something in 1.7.10 breaks scala's compiler
L1873[18:29:47] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i like your opinion on tha
L1874[18:29:48] <Kilobyte> t
L1875[18:30:14] <asie> Techokami: same question - i heard you got access to OC for 1.7.10
L1876[18:30:34] <Techokami> yes I do
L1877[18:30:38] <asie> can you give me a copy?
L1878[18:30:39] <asie> i need it
L1879[18:30:41] <Kilobyte> Sangar: soon i can attempt the first render
L1880[18:30:42] <asie> badly and desperately
L1881[18:30:42] <Techokami> sure thing!
L1882[18:31:37] <Sangar> i can put the deobf one of Techokami's fork into the dropbox, too, if you need it until i get around to cleaning up my 1.7.10 branch
L1883[18:31:58] <Kilobyte> Sangar: put up some semi official downloads?
L1884[18:32:07] <Techokami> yeah, please do as I only have the regular one and not the API or deobf versions
L1885[18:32:18] <Vexatos> asie: Did you fix the tape drive GUI in 0.5?
L1886[18:32:22] <Kilobyte> File.write('out/opal.js', %w(opal opal-jquery).map do |object|
L1887[18:32:22] <Kilobyte> Opal::Builder.build(object)
L1888[18:32:22] <Kilobyte> end.join)
L1889[18:32:29] <Kilobyte> code y u no work
L1890[18:32:40] <asie> Vexatos: i think Techokami was doing something in that direction
L1891[18:32:51] <asie> he maintains 1.7 though I will probably take the move to 1.7 now
L1892[18:32:57] <asie> i'll just release 0.5.0-alpha-1.6.4 as the last hurrah
L1893[18:33:03] <asie> in a few days
L1894[18:33:04] <Techokami> yeah
L1895[18:33:06] <Kilobyte> apperently opal-jquery doesn't exist
L1896[18:33:26] <Techokami> I was working on fixing the GUI and the Creative Chat
L1897[18:33:34] <Sangar> asie, Techokami, http://pastebin.com/vuAaees9
L1898[18:33:42] <Techokami> but I've been completely swamped lately
L1899[18:33:53] <Kilobyte> Sangar: on a side note, we are in semi finale :P
L1900[18:33:53] <Sangar> keep in mind, that's Techokami branch
L1901[18:34:06] <Techokami> yeah
L1902[18:34:06] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yaaa-zzZZ
L1903[18:34:11] <Sangar> ;)
L1904[18:34:31] <Techokami> I replaced the font graphics and put in a bunch of loot disks
L1905[18:36:28] <Kilobyte> Sangar: gah coding + beer == bad idea
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L1907[18:37:21] <Sangar> Kilobyte, so i keep hearing :P
L1908[18:37:49] <Bizzycola> Then maybe, I know this sounds absolutely insane, but what if you..didn't drink and code? :p
L1909[18:38:36] <Sangar> nah. that'd be like coding while not tired. totally boring.
L1910[18:38:57] <Bizzycola> Well I don't drink or do drugs and I can code! I am right now!
L1911[18:39:23] <Bizzycola> I use music instead
L1912[18:39:27] <Bizzycola> find it works better :p
L1913[18:40:09] <Sangar> i agree
L1914[18:41:04] <Kilobyte> ^
L1915[18:41:21] <Kilobyte> Sangar: soon i can do first render!
L1916[18:41:29] <Sangar> \o/
L1917[18:41:42] <Bizzycola> Only problem is I seem to be more into the music with lyrics
L1918[18:41:45] <Bizzycola> gets distracting
L1919[18:41:53] <Bizzycola> but I dun like techno or dubstep or anything similar :p
L1920[18:42:33] <Bizzycola> its kay though, I seem to sort of tune it out after a while, then look back and realize it went through 5 songs and I don't remember second of it haha
L1921[18:42:47] <Bizzycola> a second*
L1922[18:43:18] *** Benguin[ZzZ] is now known as Benguin
L1923[18:44:56] * JoshTheEnder makes weird noises
L1924[18:45:13] * Bizzycola ignores JoshTheEnder
L1925[18:45:39] <Kodos> Jesus, so many PMs
L1926[18:45:45] * JoshTheEnder blows a hole in the wall whilst mixing chemicals
L1927[18:46:00] * Bizzycola walks away, continuing to pay no attention to JoshTheEnder
L1928[18:46:05] <Bizzycola> :p
L1929[18:47:27] * JoshTheEnder throws a beaker of red bubbling fluid at Bizzycola
L1930[18:47:55] * Bizzycola stands and stares at the wall ignoring JoshTheEnder
L1931[18:47:55] <Bizzycola> ...
L1932[18:47:55] <Bizzycola> ...
L1933[18:47:55] <Bizzycola> ...
L1934[18:47:56] * Bizzycola starts screaming suddenly and runs around in circles
L1935[18:48:05] <Bizzycola> :P
L1936[18:48:33] * JoshTheEnder laughs maniacally
L1937[18:48:51] <Vexatos> gamax92: What's the license on LionRay?
L1938[18:48:56] * Bizzycola stops, walks up to JoshTheEnder, proceeds to kick him in the shin and then walks away
L1939[18:49:30] *** ashka_ is now known as ashka
L1940[18:50:58] * JoshTheEnder tackles Bizzycola to the floor
L1941[18:51:26] * Bizzycola pulls out timebomb, activates it and sticks it to himself
L1942[18:51:29] <Bizzycola> If you do not get off
L1943[18:51:32] <Bizzycola> I WILL NOT TURN THE BOMB OFF
L1944[18:51:46] <v^> gamax92, another bug
L1945[18:52:02] <v^> tonumber is broke
L1946[18:52:09] <gamax92> /ignore v^ ALL
L1947[18:52:43] * JoshTheEnder fiddles with the bomb to make it explode sooner then runs off
L1948[18:52:55] <v^> tonumber uses a float too apparently
L1949[18:53:05] <v^> it also overflows causing it to go negative
L1950[18:53:25] <gamax92> theeeeen .... FEX IT
L1951[18:53:27] * Bizzycola throws the bomb at JoshTheEnder
L1952[18:54:07] * JoshTheEnder throws the bomb back and hides behind Sangar
L1953[18:54:47] * Bizzycola walks up, pushes sangar our of the way, punches JoshTheEnder in the arm then walks away again
L1954[18:55:44] <Vexatos> gamax92: Once again , what's the license on LionRay?
L1955[18:55:50] <gamax92> MI
L1956[18:55:51] * JoshTheEnder drinks Bizzycola
L1957[18:55:53] <gamax92> NOIT*
L1958[18:55:56] <gamax92> sdjfhkjlsdfh, MIT*
L1959[18:56:00] * Bizzycola dies
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L1961[18:56:03] <Vexatos> Because I'm still not sure whether you updated the compiled version in the dropbox link
L1962[18:56:23] <gamax92> oh fuck ... I did the changes but never updated it, sorru.
L1963[18:56:27] <Vexatos> So I wanted to update it myself and put it on my dropbox
L1964[18:56:30] <Vexatos> Yea
L1965[18:56:40] <gamax92> sure go ahead
L1966[18:56:41] <Vexatos> Well, if you're going to do it, even better
L1967[18:56:44] <Vexatos> Nice!
L1968[18:56:46] <Vexatos> Thanks
L1969[18:56:49] <Vexatos> (For my tutorial)
L1970[18:56:58] <gamax92> well, that'll have to happen tomorrow, when I'm actually at the computer with the changes.
L1971[18:57:22] <Vexatos> k
L1972[18:57:34] <Vexatos> for now, uploading my compiled version
L1973[19:00:04] <Vexatos> Yay, Tutorial updated and done :3
L1974[19:00:14] <Vexatos> http://goo.gl/MHbMbr \o/
L1975[19:01:19] <v^> http://i.imgur.com/e89BsKd.png
L1976[19:01:23] <v^> LuaJ FTW!
L1977[19:01:52] <gamax92> v^: .-.
L1978[19:02:02] * gamax92 blames Sangar
L1979[19:02:20] <v^> gamax92, thats not even OC
L1980[19:02:28] * gamax92 still blames Sanger
L1981[19:03:24] <Sangar> yeah, my bad. totally should've fixed LuaJ.
L1982[19:03:49] <Vexatos> LuaJ is the most "that's why I don't CC" thing ever
L1983[19:04:04] <Vexatos> Just like the recipes :
L1984[19:04:05] <Vexatos> :3
L1985[19:04:16] <gamax92> lua5.2 is the most "that's why I don't OC" thing ever
L1986[19:04:25] <v^> looking into all the bugs LuaJ has, im supprised i diddnt bug the fuck out of dan yet
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L1988[19:04:38] <v^> >_> should do that
L1989[19:04:41] * Bizzycola has been resurrected
L1990[19:04:52] <gamax92> v^: or, give me a list of bugs and I want to look into them
L1991[19:05:06] <v^> gamax92, ive been spamming you with them
L1992[19:05:10] <v^> >_>
L1993[19:05:12] <gamax92> a list
L1994[19:05:19] <v^> theres like four
L1995[19:05:25] <Vexatos> The numbers
L1996[19:05:28] <Vexatos> So great
L1997[19:05:29] <gamax92> LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST
L1998[19:05:35] <Vexatos> STTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTIL
L1999[19:05:41] <v^> 1) tostring's handling of numbers
L2000[19:05:56] <v^> 2) tonumber's handling of numbers
L2001[19:06:05] <v^> 3) that retarded find bug
L2002[19:06:16] <v^> forgot other one >_>
L2003[19:06:20] <gamax92> whats the find bug
L2004[19:06:37] <v^> string.find doesnt properly return string length or something IIRC
L2005[19:06:41] <v^> so you have to concat ""
L2006[19:06:54] <gamax92> ahh that
L2007[19:07:53] <v^> should creating a thread for every coroutine be concidered a bug?
L2008[19:08:10] <Sangar> is/was %b broken in LuaJ for 5.1 broken, too, btw?
L2009[19:08:30] <v^> oh yeah iirc some string.formats were broken
L2010[19:08:33] <Sangar> http://sourceforge.net/p/luaj/bugs/23/ <- this one
L2011[19:08:39] <Kilobyte> Sangar: %b?
L2012[19:08:40] <gamax92> oh, theres a bug page.
L2013[19:08:53] <Sangar> they even fixed it for 5.2 \o/
L2014[19:09:40] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw, you are epic. you made CC seem like a toy :P
L2015[19:09:43] <Kilobyte> *make
L2016[19:09:49] <Kilobyte> well, it is one
L2017[19:09:52] <Vexatos> It is a toy
L2018[19:09:56] <v^> http://i.imgur.com/2lfBxZS.png
L2019[19:09:59] <Vexatos> And it is brilliant at being one
L2020[19:10:13] <Vexatos> one of the best "learn-some-programming-language" thing I've ever seen
L2021[19:10:18] <Sangar> hah
L2022[19:10:24] <Sangar> Vexatos, yes, it is indeed
L2023[19:10:29] <Vexatos> it is incredibly good at making people learn a language
L2024[19:10:36] <Vexatos> since it is just so FREAKING EASY
L2025[19:10:45] <gamax92> making peripherals in CC is a pain in the ass.
L2026[19:10:48] <Vexatos> Took me literally 1 hour to learn CC lua
L2027[19:10:52] <Kilobyte> but it doesn't leave much room for advanced stuff
L2028[19:10:57] <gamax92> Thank you Sangar for Callbacks
L2029[19:11:02] <Vexatos> It is not supposed to be advanced
L2030[19:11:08] <Kilobyte> gamax92: CCDesk is worse
L2031[19:11:08] <Vexatos> it is an awesome mod for learning programming
L2032[19:11:09] <Sangar> gamax92, my pleasure ;)
L2033[19:11:14] <Kilobyte> it prohibits ANY reflection
L2034[19:11:15] <Vexatos> that's why it is in MinecraftEdu
L2035[19:11:22] <gamax92> Kilobyte: I noticed as well
L2036[19:11:22] <v^> >_> CCDesk shouldnt even be concidered an emulator
L2037[19:11:31] <v^> it doesnt even work most of the time
L2038[19:11:43] <v^> ALL's launcher shit barely works
L2039[19:11:48] <Kilobyte> gamax92: "for security reasons" - ALL
L2040[19:11:53] <v^> the networking server thing is terrible
L2041[19:11:54] <Vexatos> OC is a mod that adds computers
L2042[19:12:00] <Vexatos> CC is a mod that adds a learning toy
L2043[19:12:05] <Kilobyte> ^
L2044[19:12:22] <Vexatos> Noone not knowing programming would start with OC
L2045[19:12:26] <gamax92> CC was the first time I had really used Lua.
L2046[19:12:27] <Vexatos> it is far too complicated fot that
L2047[19:12:27] <v^> could RPC be concidered a toy also?
L2048[19:12:33] <gamax92> which was also bad because LuaJ
L2049[19:12:37] <Vexatos> But CC: It is simple, VERY simple
L2050[19:12:38] <v^> its like, impossible to do compex things
L2051[19:12:39] <v^> >_>
L2052[19:13:06] <Vexatos> It gives the student a purpose to start programming
L2053[19:13:11] <v^> the most powerful feature with RPC is redstone
L2054[19:13:13] <Vexatos> gamax92: me too
L2055[19:13:14] <Vexatos> See?
L2056[19:13:26] <Vexatos> I started Programming thanks to CC
L2057[19:13:32] <v^> i like how LuaJ claims its fast
L2058[19:13:38] <Vexatos> It does?
L2059[19:13:48] <Vexatos> <insertAnythingJava> is fast
L2060[19:13:50] <gamax92> I started programming thanks to a "C by dissection" book on my father's shelf
L2061[19:13:51] <Vexatos> ^ lie
L2062[19:13:59] <Vexatos> Heh
L2063[19:14:02] <Vexatos> I never got into C
L2064[19:14:07] <gamax92> java's not bad for speed, but other things are faster.
L2065[19:14:14] <Kilobyte> yeah
L2066[19:14:22] <v^> Vexatos, robots gave me a reason to learn C
L2067[19:14:27] <Kilobyte> in fact, jruby is faster than MRI
L2068[19:14:36] <Kilobyte> just has insane startup time compared to MRI
L2069[19:14:50] <Vexatos> Any C language is faster than Java
L2070[19:15:00] <v^> C on normal computers is like, why learn it when i can do all of it easier in a higher level language
L2071[19:15:05] <Vexatos> Better in almost every way, except maybe readability and natively-implented stuff
L2072[19:15:14] <gamax92> I tried to run eLua once.
L2073[19:15:17] <v^> Java is written in C?
L2074[19:15:19] <gamax92> it didn't run
L2075[19:15:19] <v^> >_>
L2076[19:15:21] <Kilobyte> yes
L2077[19:15:21] <gamax92> v^: no
L2078[19:15:26] <Vexatos> Of course it is, v^
L2079[19:15:30] <Vexatos> Everything's written in C
L2080[19:15:34] <Vexatos> BiOS is written in C
L2081[19:15:48] <Kilobyte> v^: i have worked in places where you couldn't use anything but c
L2082[19:15:52] <Kilobyte> unless you like ASM
L2083[19:15:59] <gamax92> when you say "Java is written in C", do you mean the JVM or all of the java methods and classes
L2084[19:16:05] <Kilobyte> JVM
L2085[19:16:09] <gamax92> then yes.
L2086[19:16:13] <Vexatos> Yep
L2087[19:16:26] <Kilobyte> ofc :P
L2088[19:16:28] <gamax92> but a huuuuuge crapload of java is written in java.
L2089[19:16:33] <Kilobyte> it has c++ wrappers though
L2090[19:16:36] <v^> so, when LuaJ creates a shitload of sub functions for each lua type
L2091[19:16:38] <Sangar> well, and platform specific stuff.
L2092[19:16:39] <Vexatos> gamax92: LionRay is recommended converter program on my tutorial now
L2093[19:16:40] <Vexatos> :3
L2094[19:16:46] <v^> does java actually compile and load those functions
L2095[19:16:52] <v^> even if they wont be used
L2096[19:17:09] <Vexatos> Well
L2097[19:17:11] <gamax92> you can't really tell if they won't be used.
L2098[19:17:15] <Vexatos> Java is not good at live compilation
L2099[19:17:21] <v^> gamax92, JIT
L2100[19:17:29] <Vexatos> So it will probably be precompiled
L2101[19:17:34] <gamax92> v^: external files.
L2102[19:18:11] <v^> is each function copied every time a number is made?
L2103[19:18:41] <gamax92> hmm, I'd say yes because class instances
L2104[19:18:49] <v^> well then fuck java
L2105[19:18:54] <v^> burn it
L2106[19:18:59] <v^> burn it with napalm
L2107[19:19:08] <gamax92> burn it with ... potato
L2108[19:19:24] <Vexatos> potato!
L2109[19:19:28] <Vexatos> Behold the potato!
L2110[19:19:36] <v^> burn it with lemon
L2111[19:21:47] <Kodos> XML is like violence: if it doesn’t solve your problem, you aren’t using enough of it.
L2112[19:22:22] <v^> wtf is with the \x92 instead of '
L2113[19:23:05] <v^> Kodos, can xml solve pi?
L2114[19:23:56] <gamax92> Kodos: can xml solve world hunger?
L2115[19:25:03] <Kilobyte> yes.
L2116[19:25:08] <Kilobyte> just try hard enough
L2117[19:28:27] <asie> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/2126938-nedocomputers
L2118[19:29:07] <v^> gamax92, found where tonumber fucks up
L2119[19:29:08] <v^> http://hastebin.com/uwurulavon.java
L2120[19:29:30] <v^> also where your magical tonumber("_",16) comes from
L2121[19:29:47] <gamax92> you know I posted that exact same thing to you?
L2122[19:30:26] <gamax92> and instead of being like, oh thats where it screws up, you put a picture of trash on it.
L2123[19:30:48] <v^> >_>
L2124[19:30:52] <v^> i legidamately forgot
L2125[19:31:05] <v^> it was like, 2 AM
L2126[19:31:06] <v^> shaddup
L2127[19:31:25] * v^ dies
L2128[19:33:03] <gamax92> okay, now that I've restructure all of these commands ...
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L2131[19:42:43] <v^> yay
L2132[19:43:51] <asie> Sangar: http://pastebin.com/MCGwP3pK (your 1.7.10 port thing)
L2133[19:43:57] <asie> how bad on a scale of bad to very bad is this
L2134[19:43:58] <v^> easy fix to the scanlong shit
L2135[19:43:58] <v^> add .0 at end
L2136[19:46:22] <Sangar> asie, huh, interesting. not too bad i guess, mostly just weird.
L2137[19:49:24] <Kilobyte> uwot
L2138[19:49:41] <Kilobyte> Uncaught exception: uninitialized constant RecipeViewer::Haml::Engine
L2139[19:49:41] <asie> Sangar: all my computers are now "Unnamed"
L2140[19:49:45] <asie> which is interesting as it appeared randomly
L2141[19:49:46] <gamax92> Kilobyte.0: uwotm8.0
L2142[19:49:55] <Kilobyte> actually
L2143[19:50:08] <gamax92> v^.0: Did.0 I.0 Fix.0 It.0?
L2144[19:50:20] <Sangar> asie, computer as in computer case?
L2145[19:50:28] <Sangar> also, how to reproduce that npe?
L2146[19:50:53] <asie> Sangar: err
L2147[19:50:55] <asie> all the OC items
L2148[19:51:01] <asie> and i have no idea how to reproduce the NPE, the NPE itself is random
L2149[19:51:05] <asie> but all OC blocks and items now show "Unnamed"
L2150[19:51:09] <v^> gamax92, >_>
L2151[19:51:09] <asie> might it be a bug with WAILA interop?
L2152[19:51:13] <asie> we're checking that now
L2153[19:51:29] <Sangar> hmm, possibly
L2154[19:51:30] <v^> http://i.imgur.com/e89BsKd.png
L2155[19:51:38] <v^> it outputs correctly with a .0 at the end
L2156[19:52:01] <gamax92> Oh.0 Okay.0
L2157[19:52:09] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i think i just successfully generated stuff for first tim,e
L2158[19:54:10] <Sangar> Kilobyte, pics! :P
L2159[19:54:14] <Kilobyte> Sangar: sec
L2160[19:54:23] <Kilobyte> i can gives you gist :P
L2161[19:54:30] <asie> Sangar: confirmed - the bug is with WAILA
L2162[19:54:36] <asie> poke Techokami for 1.7.10 dev builds I guess
L2163[19:55:01] <asie> that's for the "Unnamed" part
L2164[19:55:08] <asie> the names now display if i remove WAILA
L2165[19:55:15] <asie> but it still randomly crashes on attempts to Creative Search
L2166[19:55:17] <asie> with this error
L2167[19:55:55] <Sangar> asie, ok. i'm looking into switching to using the waila maven right now, will see if some api change pops out or so.
L2168[19:56:31] <Techokami> Sangar, I had to compile Waila myself because Prof.Mobius hasn't worked on making a 1.7.10 compatible version
L2169[19:56:37] <Sangar> oic
L2170[19:56:47] <Kilobyte> Sangar: gah... or not... the haml won't render
L2171[19:57:20] <Kilobyte> kinda too late for dev
L2172[19:57:29] <Kilobyte> and tomorrow i got prob no time
L2173[19:58:27] <Sangar> oh well
L2174[19:59:57] <Techokami> Sangar I'll upload the Waila binaries for 1.7.10 for you
L2175[20:00:13] <Sangar> thanks
L2176[20:01:11] <Techokami> http://files.holenet.info/Waila-1.5.2a-1.7.10.zip
L2177[20:04:59] <Techokami> Sangar ^^^
L2178[20:05:18] <Sangar> thanks, got it. does that work in devenv? i.e. is it deobf?
L2179[20:05:31] <Techokami> there's a dev (deobf) version in there
L2180[20:05:37] <Sangar> ah, i see.
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L2184[20:09:51] * JoshTheEnder yawns loudly
L2185[20:09:57] <JoshTheEnder> I am bored :/
L2186[20:12:30] <Bizzycola> ic
L2187[20:12:49] <gamax92> "first season had plot. second season sorta had plot. third season is just fan service."
L2188[20:15:35] <gamax92> "We detected your video may be shaky. Would you like us to stabilize it?"
L2189[20:16:02] <gamax92> this is a black picture, what is shaky about it.
L2190[20:17:19] *** Csstform|Away is now known as Csstform
L2191[20:23:51] <robhol> season of what? :p
L2192[20:24:44] <Sangar> Techokami, is this what shouldn't be working? http://i.imgur.com/noSPYw2.png
L2193[20:25:08] <Techokami> no idea
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L2195[20:25:15] <Techokami> here's asie
L2196[20:25:25] <Techokami> <@Sangar> Techokami, is this what shouldn't be working? http://i.imgur.com/noSPYw2.png
L2197[20:25:25] <Techokami> <Techokami> no idea
L2198[20:26:22] <asie> Sangar: correct!
L2199[20:26:33] <asie> in addition, pressing Creative Search should crash you; sometimes with the crash report i posted, sometimes without
L2200[20:26:44] <asie> my pack: http://asie.pl/lepack4.zip
L2201[20:26:53] <Vexatos> lepack4
L2202[20:29:51] <asie> you can also grab a super-secret port of BuildCraft to 1.7.10 from there
L2203[20:30:31] <Vexatos> Super secret?
L2204[20:30:40] <Vexatos> https://github.com/asiekierka/BuildCraft
L2205[20:30:44] <Vexatos> ^ Super Secret.
L2206[20:30:46] <asie> yes
L2207[20:30:48] <asie> find the commit
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L2210[20:31:28] <Sangar> could you try https://www.dropbox.com/s/qforbrit0eqh2b5/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.3.0-rc.1-universal.jar / https://www.dropbox.com/s/42dy94zo489zqb6/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.3.0-rc.1-deobf.jar while i set up non-dev mc 1.7.10? those are built from my 1.7.10 branch.
L2211[20:32:17] <asie> Sangar: k
L2212[20:32:34] <Vexatos> Techokami: Super exited for Computronics 0.5 :3
L2213[20:32:39] <Vexatos> *excited
L2214[20:32:41] <Techokami> indeed
L2215[20:32:45] <Techokami> it's going to be nice
L2216[20:32:47] <Vexatos> Please fix the Tape Drive GUI .-.
L2217[20:32:55] <Techokami> I'm hoping to try
L2218[20:33:08] <Techokami> working on fixing the Creative Chat Box right now
L2219[20:33:19] <Vexatos> NSA in a box
L2220[20:33:20] <Vexatos> :3
L2221[20:33:48] <asie> yes
L2222[20:33:53] <asie> can we rename it to XKEYSCORE Box?
L2223[20:34:44] <v^> http://i.imgur.com/ZQ0JQ2F.png
L2224[20:34:45] <v^> LuaJ
L2225[20:34:49] <v^> is so fucking amazing
L2226[20:35:09] <v^> gamax92, explain why that happens
L2227[20:35:15] <gamax92> noooooooooooooooooooooope
L2228[20:35:22] <v^> >_>
L2229[20:35:36] <gamax92> wait wtf
L2230[20:35:39] <gamax92> wat
L2231[20:35:42] <v^> ikr
L2232[20:35:55] <gamax92> asie: explain?
L2233[20:36:05] <asie> Sangar: not fixed
L2234[20:36:14] <Sangar> asie, ok
L2235[20:36:48] <asie> did you reproduce it?
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L2237[20:36:51] <asie> it might be SMP-specific
L2238[20:36:53] <Sangar> it's probably something in the non-dev waila build then, tho? since it works in dev-mode.
L2239[20:37:00] <gamax92> v^: also can you do tests in plain luaj?
L2240[20:37:10] <gamax92> it has a lua shell in it as well
L2241[20:37:13] <Sangar> launcher is still downloading 1.7.10.jar -.-
L2242[20:37:17] <v^> gamax92, wher
L2243[20:37:38] <gamax92> v^: http://sourceforge.net/projects/luaj/files/latest/download
L2244[20:37:41] <asie> Sangar: oh
L2245[20:37:44] <gamax92> in the lib folder
L2246[20:37:45] <asie> i didn't test the WAILA thing, sorry
L2247[20:37:48] <asie> i tested the creative search thing
L2248[20:37:53] <Sangar> aaah, ok
L2249[20:37:53] <asie> as i thought that's a bit. uh. more important
L2250[20:37:57] <asie> i'll test the WAILA thing now
L2251[20:38:03] <v^> gamax92, i dont want latest
L2252[20:38:06] <v^> i want 2.x
L2253[20:38:07] <Sangar> well that also doesn't happen in dev mode for me, but when the dl is done i'll see if it happens in non-dev for me
L2254[20:38:19] <Kodos> Did someone say they needed shit broke?
L2255[20:38:21] <gamax92> v^: http://sourceforge.net/projects/luaj/files/luaj-2.0/2.0.3/luaj-2.0.3.zip/download
L2256[20:38:30] <v^> too late
L2257[20:38:42] <Sangar> Kodos, we're perfectly capable of breaking it ourselves it would seem :P
L2258[20:38:49] <Kodos> So I'm being replaced =(
L2259[20:38:51] <v^> also thats source, how do i build it
L2260[20:38:58] <Sangar> Kodos, you can never be replaced ;)
L2261[20:39:00] <gamax92> theres a lib folder
L2262[20:40:21] <gamax92> v^: so yeah: java -cp luaj-jse-2.jar lua
L2263[20:40:27] <gamax92> brings up a lua prompt
L2264[20:41:02] <v^> Error: Could not find or load main class l
L2265[20:41:14] <gamax92> why did you put l.
L2266[20:41:16] <gamax92> its lua
L2267[20:41:17] <v^> lua*
L2268[20:41:19] <v^> Error: Could not find or load main class lua
L2269[20:41:20] <asie> Sangar: neither is the WAILA stuff!
L2270[20:41:29] <gamax92> v^: uhh, you are in the folder where the jse jar is right?
L2271[20:41:33] <v^> yes
L2272[20:41:37] <gamax92> ... works for me idunno
L2273[20:41:43] <gamax92> v^: screenshot?
L2274[20:41:53] <v^> pixel:~/Downloads/luaj-2.0.3/lib$ java -cp luaj-jse-2.jar lua
L2275[20:42:07] <v^> Error: Could not find or load main class lua
L2276[20:42:09] <v^> thats it
L2277[20:42:33] <gamax92> oh sorry.
L2278[20:42:40] <gamax92> java -cp luaj-jse-2.0.3.jar lua
L2279[20:42:53] <gamax92> I'm not sure where the 0.3. went.
L2280[20:43:13] <v^> k
L2281[20:43:44] <v^> this prompt fucking sucks
L2282[20:44:00] <gamax92> XD
L2283[20:44:12] <v^> i cant use up/down
L2284[20:44:16] <v^> it doesnt print what i return
L2285[20:44:25] <v^> >_>
L2286[20:44:41] <gamax92> oh, not sure if it readline's
L2287[20:45:46] <Sangar> asie, hmm, in normal mc everything works fine for me, too. does the searchtab crashery only happen sometimes or always for you?
L2288[20:45:51] <gamax92> v^: okay, new command: rlwrap java -cp luaj-jse-2.0.3.jar lua
L2289[20:45:59] <v^> >_>
L2290[20:46:00] <gamax92> luajit does the same thing to me, and i need rlwrap for it.
L2291[20:46:05] <asie> Sangar: always, but on SMP
L2292[20:46:07] <asie> did not test SSP
L2293[20:46:10] <v^> gamax92, same
L2294[20:46:10] <Sangar> ah
L2295[20:46:19] <v^> and holy shit that command how diddnt i know it existed
L2296[20:46:32] <Sangar> aah, right, you mentioned that, but my shortterm memory got distracted >_> will test now
L2297[20:46:51] <gamax92> >_> ice cream truck y u so loud
L2298[20:46:52] <gamax92> go away truck
L2299[20:47:22] <v^> > print(tonumber("10000000000000000000"))
L2300[20:47:23] <v^> -8446744073709551616
L2301[20:47:29] <asie> Sangar: reproduced it in SSP
L2302[20:47:32] <asie> it crashed near-instantly
L2303[20:47:36] <asie> after opening the creative menu
L2304[20:47:42] <Sangar> huh
L2305[20:47:44] <asie> try http://asie.pl/lepack4.zip
L2306[20:47:46] <asie> it's my whole pack
L2307[20:47:50] <gamax92> v^: good
L2308[20:48:05] <Sangar> i'll throw in the pack then, only tested with oc + waila because lazy :P
L2309[20:48:25] <v^> gamax92, good? its fucking terrible.
L2310[20:48:44] <v^> i cant beleive they diddnt test this
L2311[20:49:15] <gamax92> oh yeah ... .0 fixes it. odd.
L2312[20:50:14] <v^> i know why
L2313[20:50:51] <v^> in the program it runs scanlong
L2314[20:51:10] <asie> Sangar: OH!
L2315[20:51:11] <asie> GOT IT!
L2316[20:51:11] <v^> which returns NaN when it hits a decimal point
L2317[20:51:12] <asie> it's NEI!
L2318[20:51:17] <Sangar> oh
L2319[20:51:22] <asie> dammit, NEI
L2320[20:51:26] <Sangar> ok then :P
L2321[20:51:35] <asie> do we blame it on ChickenBones or attempt to fix it ourselves
L2322[20:51:39] * gamax92 overflows Sangar
L2323[20:51:50] * Sangar hides
L2324[20:52:12] <v^> scanlong compiles the number with a long type
L2325[20:52:19] <v^> which overflows
L2326[20:52:21] <v^> >_>
L2327[20:52:25] <gamax92> v^: luajava is the ffi of luajit
L2328[20:52:32] <v^> i know
L2329[20:52:34] <Sangar> afk for a bit
L2330[20:52:37] <v^> exept ffi in luajit is optimized
L2331[20:52:52] <gamax92> and java and luaj aren't
L2332[20:53:20] <v^> gamax92, LuaJIT does special JIT optimizations on ffi calls
L2333[20:54:20] <v^> local potato=C.potato decreases efficiency
L2334[20:59:07] <gamax92> v^: I'm gonna run luaj in eclipse debugging
L2335[21:01:03] <v^> >_>
L2336[21:01:10] <v^> why
L2337[21:01:48] <gamax92> Because live inserting of System.out.println
L2338[21:01:56] <v^> oh
L2339[21:01:57] <v^> okay
L2340[21:02:39] <v^> gamax92, on a scale from 1 to 2^999999 how wtf is that bug
L2341[21:03:00] <gamax92> 1
L2342[21:03:17] <v^> >_>
L2343[21:03:21] <v^> but its pretty wtf tho
L2344[21:05:40] <v^> gamax92, did you mean 1.0?
L2345[21:05:43] <v^> >_>
L2346[21:06:01] <gamax92> No, I meant -243264873256243245
L2347[21:06:15] <v^> .l53 -243264873256243245
L2348[21:06:15] <^v> v^, -243264873256243245
L2349[21:06:16] <v^> >_>
L2350[21:06:24] <v^> .l53 -243264873256243245<<1>>1
L2351[21:06:24] <^v> v^, 8980107163598532563
L2352[21:06:32] <v^> so you meant ^
L2353[21:06:42] <gamax92> .l53 -243264873256243245<<0
L2354[21:06:42] <^v> gamax92, -243264873256243245
L2355[21:06:45] <gamax92> o
L2356[21:06:49] <v^> oi
L2357[21:07:14] <gamax92> D: there's JME crap in this.
L2358[21:07:16] <v^> yeah them being signed is stupid
L2359[21:07:22] <v^> gamax92, WAT
L2360[21:07:38] <gamax92> v^: what, you didn't know luaj also does j2me?
L2361[21:08:19] <v^> is that why it sucks?
L2362[21:08:29] <gamax92> no, the jse and jme code are split off
L2363[21:08:41] <gamax92> and, BaseLib and all that junk is in the core/shared
L2364[21:09:39] <gamax92> oh I didn't know you could type in eclipse's console
L2365[21:10:24] <asie> Sangar: i verified
L2366[21:10:29] <asie> this *is* a bug in OpenComputers, /somehow/
L2367[21:10:37] <v^> gamax92, I CAN SEE THROUGH YOUR LIES
L2368[21:10:38] <asie> it happens in SSP when NEI tries to display and in SMP when I try to do Creative Search
L2369[21:10:40] <v^> MUAHAHAHAHA
L2370[21:10:41] <v^> http://i.imgur.com/vmeaiji.png
L2371[21:10:57] <gamax92> v^: wtf bug is that now.
L2372[21:11:13] <v^> i made a function to ACTUALLY tostring numbers
L2373[21:11:55] <gamax92> tonumber("10000000000000000000000") is 1864712049423024128 apparently
L2374[21:12:34] <v^> gamax92, i explained that
L2375[21:12:41] <gamax92> yes i know
L2376[21:13:03] <v^> .calc 10000000000000000000000%(2^64)
L2377[21:13:03] <^v> v^, .11806718586779598848
L2378[21:13:06] <v^> ...
L2379[21:13:11] <v^> bc is broken again
L2380[21:13:12] <v^> >_>
L2381[21:13:54] <v^> #blamesangar
L2382[21:14:36] <gamax92> @BlameSangar
L2383[21:14:37] <gamax92> public thisIs yourFault(Please fixIt) throws TableException
L2384[21:21:05] <gamax92> v^: if I change the long to double it works just fine.
L2385[21:21:28] <v^> where
L2386[21:21:34] <gamax92> in scanlong
L2387[21:21:43] <v^> no, just remove scanlong
L2388[21:21:44] <gamax92> i made "long x" -> "double x"
L2389[21:21:47] <gamax92> v^: but, bases.
L2390[21:21:51] <gamax92> scandouble doesn't base
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L2392[21:22:20] <v^> long is more precise integer wise
L2393[21:22:27] <gamax92> and lua uses doubles.
L2394[21:22:37] <v^> aaaand yeah
L2395[21:23:03] <v^> so, should i bug dan about that
L2396[21:23:16] <gamax92> has dan done luaj fixes?
L2397[21:23:23] <v^> nope
L2398[21:23:28] <gamax92> then why would you bug him
L2399[21:23:29] <Sangar> asie, hmm, from the stacktrace it looks like some smelting recipe from another mod is weird (and has a null result or something like that). i'll throw in a null check.
L2400[21:23:35] <gamax92> Bug Sangar
L2401[21:23:38] <v^> because they are annoying as fuck
L2402[21:23:42] <gamax92> oh okay
L2403[21:24:08] <Sangar> pretty sure that's also what's causing the 'Unnamed'
L2404[21:25:01] <v^> gamax92, so
L2405[21:25:18] <v^> fix bugs, compile, repalce ones in cc's zip?
L2406[21:25:33] <gamax92> sure
L2407[21:26:09] <v^> how are we gona fix tostring
L2408[21:29:32] <gamax92> v^: right, what was broken with tostring? :P
L2409[21:29:51] <v^> everything
L2410[21:30:09] <gamax92> v^: how about an actual answer I could potentially fix
L2411[21:30:13] <gamax92> because for me tostring normally works.
L2412[21:30:15] <v^> http://hastebin.com/jumiyovani.java
L2413[21:30:27] <v^> fix that function
L2414[21:30:31] <v^> it converts to float
L2415[21:30:34] <gamax92> right.
L2416[21:30:41] <v^> it also sucks
L2417[21:31:54] <gamax92> v^: its also converting double's to longs
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L2419[21:33:17] <gamax92> v^: http://hastebin.com/muvakibenu.java how bout that
L2420[21:33:30] <Sangar> allright, fixed it. asie, Techokami, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y6h5n4c21q3rv5e/AADxnaH9SPCoU1yxuf65ZhzKa
L2421[21:33:51] <v^> double.tostring sucks
L2422[21:34:03] <gamax92> why exactly?
L2423[21:34:45] <Kenny> because he has a one(single) track mind hehe
L2424[21:35:30] <v^> gamax92, it goes into scientific notation
L2425[21:35:31] <v^> >_>
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L2427[21:37:03] <gamax92> v^: so does lua
L2428[21:37:16] <asie> Sangar: testing now
L2429[21:37:19] <asie> with WAILA, NEI and the kitchen sink
L2430[21:37:21] <v^> gamax92, fine
L2431[21:37:32] <gamax92> result looks slightly different, [ print(tostring(4e300)) ] "4e+300" "4E300"
L2432[21:37:39] <gamax92> oh sorry, 4.0E300
L2433[21:37:57] <v^> >_>
L2434[21:38:17] <Kilobyte> meanwhile a friend derped at kernel dev
L2435[21:38:30] <Kilobyte> he made his lkmalloc() overwrite kernel code
L2436[21:38:42] <Kilobyte> by accident
L2437[21:39:29] <asie> Sangar: it all works! fantastic
L2438[21:40:08] <Sangar> great, thanks for confirming :)
L2439[21:40:48] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw, feel free to assign me another job once you got one
L2440[21:40:57] <gamax92> v^: so, this i guess http://hastebin.com/jurovesohe.lua
L2441[21:41:07] <Kilobyte> slowly i am getting into scala
L2442[21:41:26] <v^> gamax92, >_>
L2443[21:41:33] <v^> would be better to actually fix those functions
L2444[21:41:37] <gamax92> yes ...
L2445[21:41:39] <gamax92> that was the point
L2446[21:41:46] * gamax92 slaps v^
L2447[21:42:19] <v^> would be in StringLib
L2448[21:43:38] <Kilobyte> Sangar: got any job to assign to me atm?
L2449[21:44:12] <Sangar> Kilobyte, hmm, mostly the stuff on the tracker. if you want to jump in the cold water you could look at the upgradeable switches.
L2450[21:44:23] <Kilobyte> hmm
L2451[21:44:34] <Kilobyte> will take a while, but i'll figure it out
L2452[21:44:39] <Kilobyte> i have done modding before
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L2454[21:45:00] <Kilobyte> only thing i didn't is any graphical stuff (renderers, guis, models etc)
L2455[21:45:20] <Kilobyte> and i'll figure that out too
L2456[21:45:27] <Morebits> hey guys, morebits again! Hi Vexatos :)
L2457[21:45:37] <Techokami> I'm back
L2458[21:45:41] <Techokami> oh boy fixes
L2459[21:45:55] <Techokami> time to merge them into me fork
L2460[21:46:01] <gamax92> v^: I'm NOT too sure what the bug is. getting the length of what string.sub tells me gives me the length.
L2461[21:46:29] <Morebits> I'll do the worlds first Open Computers Spotlight, when 1.3 is released!
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L2463[21:46:56] <Kilobyte> Sangar: what would upgrades mean?
L2464[21:46:59] <Morebits> speaking of which, can the shape of the robot be changed
L2465[21:47:08] <Morebits> in a texture pack
L2466[21:47:49] <Sangar> Kilobyte, basically a two-slot inventory, one for cpu, one for ram. each tier of cpu reduces delay by one tick, each ram tier increases buffer size by five or something along those lines.
L2467[21:47:50] <gamax92> v^: nor the bug with string.find
L2468[21:48:18] <v^> i am scraping the forums
L2469[21:48:19] <gamax92> I tried a normal string and a string from string.sub, both worked.
L2470[21:48:29] <Kilobyte> Sangar: hmm
L2471[21:48:31] <v^> its when you try it twice iirce
L2472[21:48:35] * Kilobyte needs to into gui
L2473[21:48:54] <Kilobyte> meh, too late for code
L2474[21:49:12] <Morebits> can the robot shape be changed
L2475[21:49:24] <Sangar> guis much fun :P when you do, have a look at the disk drive, it's basically the most simple one in oc, and almost exactly what i'd imagine for the switch.
L2476[21:49:26] <Morebits> im probably guessing no
L2477[21:49:33] <v^> everyone f5 spam http://cdn.afterlifelochie.net/
L2478[21:49:39] <v^> he will notice
L2479[21:50:14] <Kilobyte> Sangar: mind changing assignment to me so i won't forget?
L2480[21:50:15] <Sangar> Morebits, addons can hook into the robot render event and could theoretically change the model. but it's not a simple 'replace .obj file in resource pack' i'm afraid :P
L2481[21:50:22] <Sangar> Kilobyte, will do
L2482[21:50:37] <Kilobyte> Sangar: *cough* we need a better tracker ;)
L2483[21:50:48] <Morebits> thanks sangir
L2484[21:50:52] <Sangar> pft
L2485[21:50:58] <Sangar> np
L2486[21:50:58] <Morebits> let me know when 1.3 comes out, and ill spotlight it
L2487[21:51:07] <Morebits> I saw your github post :)
L2488[21:51:12] <Sangar> soon (tm) :P
L2489[21:51:22] <Morebits> looking forward to Userdata wrapping
L2490[21:51:25] <Kilobyte> Morebits: it is out. well in beta :P
L2491[21:51:47] <gamax92> v^: http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/topic/3756-13-stringfind-after-stringsub/
L2492[21:51:49] <gamax92> that i guess
L2493[21:51:55] <Kilobyte> Sangar: once my pc works i might do a spotlight showing off the internals a bit
L2494[21:52:03] <Sangar> oh, i think i need to add you to the oc team.
L2495[21:52:07] * Sangar figures out how that went again
L2496[21:52:15] <Morebits> c1 = component.chest
L2497[21:52:26] <Kilobyte> like, for those interested, they can learn internals
L2498[21:52:29] <Morebits> c1.getStackInSlot(1) - nil
L2499[21:52:51] <Morebits> cant wait for that read different :)
L2500[21:53:38] <Kilobyte> tried getStackInSlot(0)?
L2501[21:53:44] <Kilobyte> idk if thats how it works
L2502[21:54:12] <Morebits> yeh
L2503[21:54:17] <Morebits> both return nuk
L2504[21:54:20] <Morebits> *nil
L2505[21:54:35] <Morebits> Computercraft returns a table of data regarding the contents :)
L2506[21:54:48] <gamax92> v^: so i know why
L2507[21:54:49] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i smell bug
L2508[21:54:58] <Kilobyte> Morebits: version?
L2509[21:55:03] <v^> gamax92, its because cloudy and dan are lazy
L2510[21:55:12] <Morebits> 1.2.13
L2511[21:55:16] <v^> else they would have fixed this
L2512[21:55:17] <gamax92> v^: when it does the substring, it's just making a new LuaString with an offset, using the original bytes.
L2513[21:55:20] <Sangar> getStackInSlot returns nil if the config option to allow inspecting itemstacks isn't set to true in occ
L2514[21:55:31] <Kilobyte> ah
L2515[21:55:34] <gamax92> v^: when something else is using said string, its not respecting the offset.
L2516[21:55:36] <Kilobyte> learned something new
L2517[21:55:58] <v^> lolololololo
L2518[21:55:58] <Sangar> i thought the guy that added it made sure to return a proper error message... apparently not? :P
L2519[21:56:16] <Morebits> hmm
L2520[21:56:19] * Kilobyte considers pring it in
L2521[21:56:27] <Morebits> ill have to change that in the config then
L2522[21:56:48] <Sangar> wow, i finally managed to assign you to the issue Kilobyte :P githubs rights management is so weird (imho)
L2523[21:56:52] <gamax92> v^: which now that I think about it, you can have two LuaString's that share the same reference to the byte array.
L2524[21:57:26] <v^> gamax92, terrible
L2525[21:57:34] <v^> i mean amazing
L2526[21:57:40] <v^> incredible coding
L2527[21:57:56] <v^> :< ive ran out of sarcasm for LuaJ
L2528[21:58:46] <Morebits> thanks :)
L2529[21:58:54] <Morebits> and 1.3 will be awesome too
L2530[21:59:00] <v^> s/will/is
L2531[21:59:02] <v^> .j
L2532[21:59:11] <^v> v^, Build #483 for OpenComputers: http://bit.ly/1xtkssP 31 minutes ago
L2533[21:59:35] <gamax92> v^: I will now be using Arrays.copyOfRange
L2534[21:59:38] <Morebits> cant wait for it. I'll spotlight it when it RC
L2535[22:00:11] <Morebits> cheers again :)
L2536[22:00:21] <v^> it already exists
L2537[22:00:21] <Morebits> im off o/
L2538[22:00:31] <v^> >_>
L2539[22:00:34] <v^> k, o/
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L2542[22:04:36] <Kilobyte> Sangar: btw, some entertainment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNZBSZD16cY
L2543[22:04:36] -Kibibyte- [Kilobyte] Beatbox brilliance: Tom Thum at TEDxSydney | by tedxtalks | 11m39s | 51w3d ago | 18,596,758 views | Rated: 4.94/5.00
L2544[22:06:48] <gamax92> v^: fixed
L2545[22:15:33] <gamax92> v^: http://hastebin.com/amoyifexaw.java wtf
L2546[22:17:16] <Sangar> Kilobyte, he's pretty good! (and that's coming from someone who's usually not into beatboxing :P)
L2547[22:17:26] <Kilobyte> same :P
L2548[22:17:32] <Kilobyte> but he is epic
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L2550[22:21:44] <gamax92> v^: fixed tonumber handling extra chars
L2551[22:23:22] <gamax92> Sangar: http://www.hastebin.com/isalihihid.txt
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L2553[22:26:31] <Sangar> gamax92, i assume that applies to 5.2, too? please make it a pull request :)
L2554[22:26:42] <gamax92> Sangar: to OC?
L2555[22:26:49] <gamax92> does it have luaj source code in it?
L2556[22:27:24] <gamax92> oh I guess it does.
L2557[22:27:26] <gamax92> okay.
L2558[22:29:38] <Sangar> yep
L2559[22:30:14] <Sangar> had to rename the package to avoid conflicts with cc (yes, the 5.2 vm is originally still in the v2 package -.- such brilliance)
L2560[22:32:24] <v^> gamax92, wat
L2561[22:32:35] <Kilobyte> Sangar: yeah, plus, cc actually uses a patched version of it
L2562[22:32:36] <Kilobyte> iirc
L2563[22:32:52] <Kilobyte> so any mod using luaj has to rename it or stuff breaks
L2564[22:32:58] <v^> and i gtg
L2565[22:33:14] <Sangar> sweet
L2566[22:33:42] <Kilobyte> i talked to the devs on this and they were like "well, thats their fault then"
L2567[22:34:45] <Kilobyte> Sangar: i actually once made a luaj patch to add a forge event allowing you to modify the lua _G on creation
L2568[22:34:55] <Kilobyte> i mean, i could patch luaj, its open source
L2569[22:35:38] <Kilobyte> (ofc you had to drop the patch into the cc jar, but... i didn't tell anyone they should. plus it was a private patch)
L2570[22:36:56] <Sangar> :P
L2571[22:38:18] <Sangar> anyone here on mac? if so, could you please try if the natives in the latest 1.3 builds still work?
L2572[22:38:41] <Kilobyte> i haz a friend who has
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L2575[22:38:53] <Kilobyte> WHERE IS MY PHONE
L2576[22:39:10] <Sangar> thanks
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L2578[22:39:43] <Kilobyte> poked him
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L2583[22:43:25] <Kilobyte> Sangar: apperently he is asleep
L2584[22:43:42] <Sangar> ah well
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L2586[22:46:17] <ds84182> lets see if I can commit my latest OpenGX changes...
L2587[22:47:09] <ds84182> nOPE?!
L2588[22:47:12] <ds84182> lel
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L2593[23:01:19] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how many ticks delay does it atm?
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L2595[23:01:26] <Sangar> 5 iirc
L2596[23:01:36] <Sangar> i.e. it relays one message every 5 ticks
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L2598[23:02:12] <Kilobyte> so one can reduce to 2?
L2599[23:02:49] <Sangar> yeah.
L2600[23:03:17] <Kilobyte> what buffer queue size?
L2601[23:03:47] <Sangar> default is 20 i think. i was thinking 5 more per ram tier, so 50 max. does that sound reasonable?
L2602[23:04:48] <Kilobyte> 20 + 3 * 5 is 35 for me
L2603[23:04:58] <Kilobyte> or do you include half tiers
L2604[23:05:01] <Sangar> yes
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L2606[23:06:00] <Sangar> would be a little... hacky, because it'd have to be checked directly and not through the api, but it's not like there are any ram addons anyway >_>
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L2608[23:07:00] <Sangar> alternatively 10/tier. but that could be confusing since x and x.5 would have the same effect.
L2609[23:07:42] <Kilobyte> i'd say
L2610[23:07:49] <Kilobyte> (10 * tier)
L2611[23:07:57] <Kilobyte> tier being a double/float
L2612[23:08:10] <Sangar> it isn't tho :/
L2613[23:08:27] <Kilobyte> yeah, checking that code right now
L2614[23:08:59] <istasi> nn, no crashes yesterday (no persistent), no crashes today (updated version)
L2615[23:09:41] <Kilobyte> awesome
L2616[23:09:58] <Sangar> istasi, good to hear. i've had 60 computers running non-stop for a while now, and had no crashes either :) (had before, that's how i could track it down)
L2617[23:10:26] <Kilobyte> Sangar: oh, so tier 1.5 is actually 2?
L2618[23:10:30] <Kilobyte> and 2 is actually 3
L2619[23:10:48] <Sangar> tier 1 is also tier 1, tier 2.5 is tier 2, etc
L2620[23:10:54] <Sangar> *tier 1.5 is also tier 1
L2621[23:11:09] <Sangar> basically just look at the color of the item name :P
L2622[23:11:09] <Kilobyte> wot
L2623[23:11:22] <gamax92> Sangar: pr done
L2624[23:11:36] <Sangar> gamax92, k, thanks
L2625[23:11:44] <Kilobyte> i am looking at the tier variable of item.Memory
L2626[23:11:58] <Kilobyte> Recipes.addItem(new item.Memory(multi, Tier.One), "ram1", "oc:ram1")
L2627[23:12:04] <Sangar> "not tested" :P
L2628[23:12:09] <Kilobyte> Recipes.addItem(new item.Memory(multi, Tier.Three), "ram3", "oc:ram3")
L2629[23:12:18] <gamax92> Sangar: Well I did write it in LuaJ 2.0.3
L2630[23:12:23] <machini5t> #minecraft
L2631[23:12:26] <gamax92> I'm testing it right now
L2632[23:12:27] <Kilobyte> a bit later
L2633[23:12:28] <Kilobyte> Recipes.addItem(new item.Memory(multi, Tier.Five), "ram5", "oc:ram5")
L2634[23:12:29] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yes, but that's not what the Memory driver reports
L2635[23:12:37] <Kilobyte> gah.
L2636[23:12:42] <Sangar> ;)
L2637[23:12:47] <Kilobyte> how would i distinguish that then?
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L2640[23:13:20] <Kilobyte> Sangar: ^
L2641[23:13:27] <Kilobyte> aka distinguish 1 and 1.5
L2642[23:13:51] <Sangar> if we do respect the half steps, by checking if it's a built-in ram, cast to actual item, use the tier info in there, otherwise fall back to what the driver reports
L2643[23:14:08] <Kilobyte> that would work
L2644[23:14:10] <gamax92> Sangar: I forgot an import.
L2645[23:14:28] <Kilobyte> gamax92: did intellij not complain? :O
L2646[23:14:36] <Kilobyte> it usually complains on missing imports
L2647[23:14:41] <gamax92> 1. Not using intellij
L2648[23:14:47] <gamax92> 2. Edited it via pluma
L2649[23:14:48] <Kilobyte> bad.
L2650[23:15:01] <Sangar> this automatic assumption that everone is using intellij :P
L2651[23:15:18] <Kilobyte> Sangar: its just best java and scala ide
L2652[23:15:27] <Sangar> i agree
L2653[23:15:45] <Kilobyte> i originally switched when eclipse was acting up with imports
L2654[23:15:54] <Kilobyte> a friend had poked me at it
L2655[23:16:03] <Kilobyte> i was like, meh, i'll give it a shot
L2656[23:16:07] <Sangar> hehe
L2657[23:16:18] <Kilobyte> 30 mins of work with it and i couldn't imagine switching back
L2658[23:16:32] <Kilobyte> same happened to me with i3
L2659[23:16:44] <Kilobyte> (http://i3wm.org/)
L2660[23:16:54] <Sangar> was much quicker for me. *starts up* "oh, a dark theme" and that was it :P
L2661[23:17:10] <Kilobyte> back then it didn't have a dark theme
L2662[23:17:16] <Sangar> ah
L2663[23:17:38] <Kilobyte> iirc i started it when it was version 12
L2664[23:17:51] <Kilobyte> darkula came 13.x afaik
L2665[23:18:38] <Kilobyte> Sangar: also, tiling window managers are epic. you can usually operate your computer much faster :P
L2666[23:18:39] <gamax92> Sangar: alright, it compiles now :P
L2667[23:19:13] <Kilobyte> i couldn't imagine going back to a normal desktop env like KDE
L2668[23:19:23] <gamax92> I don't even like KDE
L2669[23:19:27] <gamax92> never really did
L2670[23:19:34] <Kilobyte> (yes, there are tiling window managers for winderps and osx)
L2671[23:19:52] <Sangar> Kilobyte, yeah, i had that on my laptop until i borked it >_>
L2672[23:20:12] <Kilobyte> KDE might not be optically most appealing, but it has a lot of tools and is easy to use
L2673[23:20:14] <Sangar> gamax92, does it also *work*? :P
L2674[23:20:19] <gamax92> testing that now
L2675[23:20:30] <Sangar> k
L2676[23:20:59] <Kilobyte> Sangar: also, even though i prob now have push access, i'll still use PRs for now
L2677[23:21:13] <Kilobyte> imo better if you review my code until i am better at scala
L2678[23:21:27] <gamax92> Sangar: "Kernel returned unexpected results."
L2679[23:21:35] <Sangar> Kilobyte, if i did it right you don't :>
L2680[23:21:39] <Kilobyte> ah, good
L2681[23:21:47] <Kilobyte> yeah, i don't wanna push by accident
L2682[23:21:56] <Sangar> gamax92, hmm, lemme check, could be in the unpatched one, too. haven't tested luaj in a while.
L2683[23:22:03] <Kilobyte> i have to remember myself pushing to fork not origin
L2684[23:24:03] <Kilobyte> Sangar: how do i get the driver from the ram chip?
L2685[23:24:11] <Kilobyte> since i have a ram chip item
L2686[23:24:20] <Sangar> gamax92, yeahp, derped in unpatched oc too >_> dammit
L2687[23:24:25] <gamax92> oh okay
L2688[23:24:51] <Sangar> Kilobyte, api.Driver.driverFor(stack)
L2689[23:24:59] <Kilobyte> ooooo
L2690[23:25:00] <Kilobyte> nice
L2691[23:25:37] * Kilobyte puts it on his notepad (aka vim ~/notepad)
L2692[23:26:16] <Kilobyte> many people have huge white papers on their desks. i have ~/notepad
L2693[23:27:03] <JoshTheEnder> i use either windows' sticky notes or just a bog standard .txt file
L2694[23:28:01] <gamax92> I usually just put .txt files on my desktop
L2695[23:28:15] <gamax92> like: sdkjlfh.txt
L2696[23:28:20] <gamax92> or: jifsjfsdgk.txt
L2697[23:29:00] <Kilobyte> i have no desktop where i can put files.
L2698[23:29:05] <Kilobyte> and i don't need it
L2699[23:29:27] <Kilobyte> because that would involve mouse
L2700[23:29:36] <Kilobyte> i can operate my computer without mouse
L2701[23:29:51] <Kilobyte> sure, some things are a bit painful (like browsing the web)
L2702[23:29:53] <gamax92> so could I, but that doesn't mean I hate the mouse.
L2703[23:30:05] <Kilobyte> i don't use it unless i need to
L2704[23:30:10] <Kilobyte> keyboard is faster
L2705[23:30:21] <gamax92> what about when browsing the web
L2706[23:30:33] <Kilobyte> again, its painful there
L2707[23:30:46] <Kilobyte> i still mostly use keyboard for scolling and stuff
L2708[23:30:53] <Kilobyte> also, why even put a .txt
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L2710[23:31:06] <Kilobyte> you KNOW its a text file after all
L2711[23:31:20] <gamax92> because then I get a message say, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO WITH THIS RAAAAWR
L2712[23:31:22] <Kilobyte> and any proper OS knows it by looking at the contents
L2713[23:31:26] <gamax92> and pluma is at the bottom of the list.
L2714[23:31:54] <Kilobyte> if i click a png file named .txt it opens with a picture viewer
L2715[23:32:12] <Kilobyte> because the os detects the PNG header in the file
L2716[23:32:16] <Sangar> hmm, ok, so luaj is *kinda* borked... but... i don't think it's my fault. it works now and errored once with an NPE at a place it really shouldn't be able to, making me think its a bug in LuaJ's weak table implementation -.-
L2717[23:32:21] <Kilobyte> there are some exceptions
L2718[23:32:33] <Kilobyte> .jar is always opened with java, no matter what contents it has
L2719[23:32:43] <gamax92> for me it tried to open it in pluma
L2720[23:32:50] <Kilobyte> i might be able to configure it so it requires contents to be a zipfilöe
L2721[23:33:16] <Kilobyte> Sangar: let me guess. they use java weak refs?
L2722[23:33:55] <Sangar> oh, and something with the error handling is weird, but that should only be relevant when it errors in the kernel, which it doesn't. except for that one time :P
L2723[23:33:57] <Sangar> i have no idea
L2724[23:34:35] <Kilobyte> Sangar: well, luaj uses javas garbage collection
L2725[23:34:48] *** Flenix is now known as SleepyFlenix
L2726[23:34:57] <Kilobyte> tbh, if it would be a real garbage collector it would collect 90% of the bytecode it gets to run
L2727[23:36:54] <Sangar> yeah, looks like they do. oh well, i'll just pretend i didn't see that >_>
L2728[23:37:25] <Kilobyte> weak refs are wonky
L2729[23:37:53] <Kilobyte> like, if i say WeakReference<String> abc = new WeakReference<>("hello");
L2730[23:38:01] <Kilobyte> and abc gets collected
L2731[23:38:10] <Kilobyte> is abc now null or abc.get()
L2732[23:38:15] <Kilobyte> i think abc
L2733[23:38:24] <Kilobyte> which seems very hacky
L2734[23:38:44] <Kilobyte> Sangar: so maybe i get the router done by tuesday... if i don't get distracted
L2735[23:39:40] <Sangar> heh, that'd be nice :D
L2736[23:47:13] <Sangar> gamax92, pushed some more... generic error handling for the LuaJ kernel errors, hopefully you'll at least get a better error message now.
L2737[23:47:40] <gamax92> Sangar: so I should build it then right?
L2738[23:48:39] <Sangar> either wait for jenkins or build it yourself, yup
L2739[23:49:04] <Johnson> I should probably talk in here instead of chatting up blood's channel. So in reference to the fakeplayer
L2740[23:49:05] <Sangar> err, derp. yeah. since the changes are in oc you'll have to build it either way.
L2741[23:49:20] <Johnson> I was more looking for something like [OpenComputers]
L2742[23:49:20] *** Alissa is now known as Alissa|Explosives
L2743[23:49:24] <Kilobyte> Sangar: oh wow that with the guis is easy
L2744[23:49:29] <Sangar> Johnson, oh hey :)
L2745[23:49:31] <Kilobyte> is that some OC tweak or a forge thing
L2746[23:49:32] <Johnson> that way I could add it to towny or things like that.
L2747[23:49:50] *** Alissa|Explosives is now known as Alissaway
L2748[23:49:59] <Sangar> Kilobyte, not sure what you're referring to, but just see where the methods come from and you'll know :P
L2749[23:50:12] <Sangar> Johnson, you can change the name pattern in the config
L2750[23:50:22] <Sangar> to something fixed like that, if you want
L2751[23:50:41] <Sangar> the settings is called `nameFormat`
L2752[23:50:45] <Sangar> *setting
L2753[23:54:26] <Kilobyte> Sangar: DynamicGuiContainer
L2754[23:54:41] <Sangar> yeah, that'd be mine
L2755[23:54:45] <Kilobyte> yup
L2756[23:55:03] <Kilobyte> Sangar: it will be about as easy to add slots in my ruby thing
L2757[23:55:12] <Kilobyte> = slot x, y, w, h
L2758[23:55:20] <Sangar> hehe
L2759[23:55:21] <Kilobyte> to set contents
L2760[23:55:35] <Kilobyte> set_slot id, item[, count]
L2761[23:56:14] <Kilobyte> item contains a ref to name, tooltip and image url
L2762[23:56:27] <Sangar> neat
L2763[23:56:44] <Sangar> brb
L2764[23:59:04] <gamax92> Sangar: oh sorry, that build
L2765[23:59:10] <gamax92> Yeah, it runs now.
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