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L5[00:05:04] <asie> hi
L6[00:09:19] <Death> HALLO.
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L8[00:31:17] <Bizzycola> sup
L9[00:32:18] <Death> Ceiling.
L10[00:33:06] <Bizzycola> What about the floor
L11[00:33:12] <Bizzycola> If you're upside down it might be up for you
L12[00:33:48] * Death turns over
L13[00:33:52] <Death> hmm.
L14[00:33:57] <Death> This is a more interesting angle
L15[00:34:06] <Bizzycola> Indee
L16[00:34:07] <Bizzycola> d
L17[00:34:24] <Death> oh lookie there's a spider on teh ceiling
L18[00:34:28] * Death gtfo's
L19[00:35:37] <Bizzycola> lol
L20[00:36:48] <Gopher> ok. Sleepy time. Assignment statements done, only block, body, if, for, while, and function declarations left to add to the parser. (that's less than it probably sounds like.)
L21[00:37:14] * Death knocks out Gopher with a frying pan
L22[00:37:17] <Death> G'night.
L23[00:37:17] <Gopher> Think I'll leave most of that aside, just do block and then get started with the compiling to bytecode bits tomorrow morning...
L24[00:37:19] <Bizzycola> night
L25[00:37:41] <Gopher> that's enough to compile a hello world program with, after all.
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L40[03:40:38] <Wobbo> Goodmorning
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L74[07:55:54] *** Sangar changes topic to 'Thread: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2201440-opencomputers/ | Forums: http://oc.cil.li/ | Latest version: 1.2.7 for MC1.6.4 and MC1.7.2 | Dev Builds: http://ci.cil.li/'
L75[08:00:37] <Wobbo> A new version already? O_o
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L78[08:02:55] <Wobbo> Hi Gopher
L79[08:03:01] <Gopher> hey, wobbo
L80[08:04:15] <Gopher> today, the fun begins, I start trying to turn these syntax trees into bytecode!
L81[08:04:35] <Wobbo> XD
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L83[08:06:38] <dangranos> is there exists OC servers?
L84[08:09:08] <Wobbo> dangranos: Wired has a server that does have OC, but he didn’t put in on the forums
L85[08:09:24] <Sangar> Wobbo, yeah, only very minor stuff though. and i have to ninja swap the 1.6 version >_> didn't see the fingerprint message when i first tested due to all the other mods' spam :P
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L87[08:11:52] <Kenny> a second build already today?
L88[08:12:32] <Kenny> my bad, the other was yeatedray hehe
L89[08:13:38] <Wobbo> I have an avtar on the forums now!
L90[08:13:41] <Wobbo> *avatar
L91[08:15:59] <Wobbo> Gopher: did you actually chang the spec from HLRL or is the version in the wiki still up to date?
L92[08:16:46] <Gopher> I broke the spec down into more detail for implementation, think there were a few changes along the way, can't remember for sure
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L94[08:20:12] <Gopher> just looked over it, main change is that assignment how has an optional "local" prefix, which forces shadowing if matching variables already exist.
L95[08:20:31] <Wobbo> Which I will always use :P
L96[08:20:34] <Gopher> tho I may change that keyword, I keep going back and forth
L97[08:20:37] <Gopher> well, see, it's not like lua
L98[08:20:50] <Wobbo> Are variables defined in the function local?
L99[08:20:57] <Wobbo> in the function definition
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L103[08:21:27] <Gopher|omnom> herpderp
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L105[08:21:29] <Gopher> anyway
L106[08:21:35] <Gopher> well, see, it's not like lua, there aren't globals
L107[08:22:19] <Gopher> but if you did, ex, "i=10 if (stuff) { i,j=1,2 print(i,j) }
L108[08:22:38] <Gopher> the j would be created locally inside the if block, because there wasn't a j yet
L109[08:22:50] <Gopher> but the i would be the parent block's i
L110[08:23:05] <Gopher> unless you add local prefix, forcing it to create a new i
L111[08:23:48] <Gopher> but I may change it from local to "def" or "var" or something, I keep flip-flopping
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L113[08:24:04] <Gopher> saying "local" could be taken to mean otherwise they are global
L114[08:24:12] <Gopher> which they're not.
L115[08:24:25] <Wobbo> I wouldn’t use local, since everyone using it is a Lua programmer, it would lead to confusions
L116[08:24:49] <Gopher> yeah, so I'm leaning towards "def"
L117[08:25:25] <Gopher> but it'll be optional, required only where there is ambiguity
L118[08:26:47] <Wobbo> I would use it everywhere, but I already said that approx. five times :P
L119[08:27:37] <Gopher> everywherre? "def a,b=f() dostuffwith(a,b) def a=a+1?
L120[08:27:57] <Wobbo> Everywhere where it might be ambigous :P
L121[08:28:00] <Gopher> and obviously you wouldn't use it where you /wanted/ to use a variable from the parent scope :P
L122[08:28:16] <Gopher> yes, that would be the intention, using it where it might be ambiguous. XD
L123[08:28:49] <Wobbo> I would use it everywhere where I don’t want to use the parent variable :P
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L127[08:46:29] <JoshTheEnder> I AM HOME \o/
L128[08:46:43] <Wobbo> wb JoshTheEnder
L129[08:46:49] <JoshTheEnder> also thanks Kenny for the message
L130[08:47:13] <Bizzycola> Hia josh
L131[08:47:26] <JoshTheEnder> hello there
L132[08:47:59] * JoshTheEnder pokes SuPeRMiNoR2
L133[08:48:04] <JoshTheEnder> SuPeRMiNoR2, you here?
L134[08:48:35] <Bizzycola> hows it goin
L135[08:49:21] <JoshTheEnder> 'Tis going fine, watching DW20's AppEnergistics 2 spotlight
L136[08:51:51] <Bizzycola> cool
L137[09:06:54] <Kenny> no prob
L138[09:07:21] <Kenny> had to search back up about 1500 lines in the log hehe
L139[09:07:32] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L140[09:08:11] <Kenny> i have one advatange, i use nick colors hehe
L141[09:08:32] <Kenny> so all i had to do was search for yellow and find it hehe
L142[09:10:02] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, internally, does OC's rebooting just mean turn off and turn back on?
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L144[09:10:19] <SpiritedDusty> or is there some difference to it?
L145[09:10:35] <SpiritedDusty> oh hes gone. herpderp
L146[09:10:52] <Kenny> turn of and back on is a hard boot, you alkso have a soft boot
L147[09:11:18] <Kenny> he has a reboot command i believe
L148[09:11:47] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty, in the recent versions soft rebooting will not clear /tmp, other than that it's the same.
L149[09:12:04] <SpiritedDusty> ah ok. thanks Kenny and Sangar
L150[09:12:33] <Gopher> That was my suggestion, keeping tmp on soft boots :D
L151[09:12:45] <SpiritedDusty> awesome :D
L152[09:12:48] <Gopher> was thinking about installers, you can use /tmp/autorun to do things now
L153[09:12:48] <Bizzycola> Sounds useful
L154[09:13:05] <Bizzycola> though I've never personally used the tmp dir, but I've written a program or two that probably could have used it :p
L155[09:13:19] <Gopher> if, ex, your installer has to update the main autorun file and wants to reboot to apply those changes
L156[09:13:34] <SpiritedDusty> that'd be useful ^
L157[09:13:37] <Bizzycola> Ah indeed
L158[09:13:43] <Gopher> I just wish writing to tmp didn't come with the time delay that writing to physical disks does
L159[09:13:51] <Bizzycola> time delay?
L160[09:14:02] <Bizzycola> Does it remove after a certain amount of time/
L161[09:14:03] <Gopher> seemed to, last I checked, which made heavy logging to file really slow programs down even if the log was in /tmp
L162[09:14:11] <SpiritedDusty> is that intentional?
L163[09:14:23] <SpiritedDusty> I think logically writting to RAM would be faster than writting to a disk
L164[09:14:38] <Gopher> yeah, and the purpose of the delay is, I assume, to prevent prograsm absuing the real server's HD
L165[09:14:45] <Gopher> which doesn't apply to /tmp really
L166[09:14:51] <Bizzycola> Ah
L167[09:15:09] <Bizzycola> Wait, so it writes slower to tmp?
L168[09:15:35] <Bizzycola> Also, can I create a file in it with the the lua's io function that creates a random file?
L169[09:15:35] <SpiritedDusty> writting slower to tmp makes no sense at all
L170[09:15:45] <Gopher> no, it currently writes the same speed to tmp as to physical disk, or seemed to
L171[09:15:52] <Bizzycola> Ah
L172[09:16:00] <Gopher> it's been since 1.2.3 since I tried it, but I didn't see anything about a change in the logs
L173[09:16:19] <SpiritedDusty> maybe San_gar changed something internally since then
L174[09:16:22] <Gopher> one of my early programs, for debug purposes I tried really spamming info to a log file, for review later, but reeeally ground my program's speed to a halt
L175[09:17:03] <SpiritedDusty> I've finally been getting back to work on my emulator but with all the new OC versions, I can't decide which one to base it on :P
L176[09:17:11] <Gopher> latest?
L177[09:17:26] <Kenny> Gopher, with Sanga-r there is no latest
L178[09:17:27] <SpiritedDusty> by the time I finish like 50% of it, a new version comes out lol
L179[09:17:37] <Sangar> write speeds for all file systems are equal because there's no difference between them on the level of abstraction the file system component sees :P and yes, the speed is limited to avoid brutalizing servers
L180[09:17:39] <Bizzycola> How much does it really change?
L181[09:17:43] <Kenny> i've seen him do as many as 9 builds in one day
L182[09:18:04] <SpiritedDusty> I guess I'll wait till OC 1.3 or something
L183[09:18:06] <Gopher> sangar: yeah, that's what I figured. No possibility of /tmp being an exception? does it actually write that to physical disk somewhere I've just not found?
L184[09:18:07] <Bizzycola> Sangar: Ah. Does lua's IO function to create a random file work in OC with the /tmp/
L185[09:18:19] <Kenny> Dusty, 1.2.7 just came out hehe
L186[09:18:34] <Gopher> pretty low priority suggestion, really, but it'd be nice
L187[09:18:36] <SpiritedDusty> almost there… just 3 more versions
L188[09:18:54] <SpiritedDusty> then Sangar is gonna troll me by doing 1.2.9.1
L189[09:19:04] <Bizzycola> You should be glad, it's good he updates it a lot :p
L190[09:19:16] <Sangar> Gopher, not really, due to how the call limits work, i'm afraid. i could raise write speeds in general a little though if it's that bad? is it?
L191[09:19:37] <SpiritedDusty> yeah it's really nice to have a mod dev that is open source and updates often
L192[09:19:54] <Bizzycola> Teach CC a lesson :p
L193[09:19:59] <Gopher> well, the rate I was spamming the log, I would've filled /tmp pretty fast anyway, so it was a pretty extreme case where it was affectign me so much
L194[09:20:19] <SpiritedDusty> does dan200 make his money solely on CC or does he have a day job?
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L196[09:20:32] <SpiritedDusty> hello Vexatos
L197[09:20:34] <Bizzycola> io.tmpfile () is the function I was thinking of
L198[09:20:38] <Vexatos> o/
L199[09:20:47] <Bizzycola> AFAIK he doesn't have a proper job?
L200[09:20:55] <Sangar> Bizzycola, that creates a file in $TMP, which per default is /tmp, so the tmpfs, yes.
L201[09:20:58] <Bizzycola> Think he also submitted a game to steam greenlight recently
L202[09:21:02] <Gopher> He had a day job until january, now he's trying to make a full-time thin out of it. It's not the normal CC mod he makes money from, tho, it';s the CCEdu version he's being paid to develop, which has a lot of different features
L203[09:21:03] <Bizzycola> ah cool, thanks
L204[09:21:15] <SpiritedDusty> oh interesting
L205[09:21:18] <Gopher> and he's also..what bizzy said, working on another game
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L209[09:21:33] <SpiritedDusty> misclick
L210[09:21:42] <Bizzycola> I believe he posted asking people to vote for it on his site
L211[09:22:12] <Gopher> if you've ever seen screenshots of green turtles, those are ccedu's basic turtles. They don't use lua, they have an inventory-like interface where you drag and drop symbolic instruction - forward, turn, etc.
L212[09:22:23] <Bizzycola> Ah
L213[09:22:30] <Bizzycola> I assume CCEdu is what schools and stuff use?
L214[09:22:46] <Gopher> yeah, that's the intention, no idea what the actual status is presently
L215[09:23:02] <SpiritedDusty> http://blog.nocturne.net.nz/assets/images/computercraft_kaikorai_1.jpg
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L217[09:27:08] <SpiritedDusty> when is computer.isRobot() getting deprecated?
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L219[09:28:52] <Wobbo> is computer.isRobot getting deprecated?
L220[09:28:56] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty, in OC1.3, which is what i'll be working on soon-ish.
L221[09:29:10] <SpiritedDusty> k
L222[09:29:20] <Sangar> Wobbo, yeah, check if there's a robot component instead
L223[09:30:00] <Wobbo> Will the api be removed as well?
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L225[09:31:11] <SpiritedDusty> Wobbo, I don't think so. since it's just an abstracted version of the robot component
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L228[09:33:09] <Gopher> if the robot api is just wrapping and re-calling identical functions on a robot component, the robot api would seem like a waste of memory?
L229[09:33:34] <ping> \o/ update
L230[09:33:58] <SpiritedDusty> 4.673kb
L231[09:34:15] <SpiritedDusty> Gopher, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/component/robot/lib/robot.lua
L232[09:35:14] <Gopher> SpiritedDusty: yeeah, the checkarg calls don't seem like enough to justify the memory use to me personally :/
L233[09:35:33] <SpiritedDusty> look at the turnLeft and turnRight functions
L234[09:35:47] <Gopher> O_o that's ... odd
L235[09:35:48] <SpiritedDusty> it makes it more user friendly than robot.turn(true)
L236[09:36:12] <Gopher> I can't think of a compelling reason the component would've been implemented that way in the first place, tbh XD
L237[09:37:36] <SpiritedDusty> there's no native computer.reboot(). it uses the native computer.shutdown(true)
L238[09:37:54] <SpiritedDusty> things are just kinda weird like that lol
L239[09:39:23] <Kenny> instead of 3 functions for place do 1 with args
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L241[09:42:56] <Kenny> about time Neon
L242[09:43:09] <Neonbeta> Yeahhh
L243[09:43:21] <Neonbeta> Slept a little more then planned
L244[09:43:51] <Kenny> i can see. i been up for 5 hours now
L245[09:45:07] <Neonbeta> :o
L246[09:46:04] <Kenny> it's almost noon here and i been up since baout 6:30
L247[09:46:24] <Kenny> told you i only sleep about 5-6 hours
L248[09:47:01] <Wobbo> Kenny gets up early, you shouldn’t use his interal clock to sync with :P
L249[09:47:14] <JoshTheEnder> not sure how long i've been awake, got up about 8am eastern US time yesterday and have only had power naps and i'm stillawake
L250[09:47:21] <Neonbeta> heh
L251[09:47:39] <Neonbeta> I don't sync with anyones internal clock xD
L252[09:47:49] <Neonbeta> cause mine's too fucked up XD
L253[09:48:29] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, the "blue screens" should be called kernel panics since OC is more unix/linux like
L254[09:49:45] <Sangar> then call them that :P
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L256[09:50:29] <SpiritedDusty> how do you cause a kernel panic? :D
L257[09:50:55] <Sangar> rip out memory :P or nil everything in _G
L258[09:51:09] <JoshTheEnder> sudo rm -rf
L259[09:51:32] <Sangar> aside from that, blue screens are just way too iconic to not do it like that :>
L260[09:51:56] <SpiritedDusty> JoshTheEnder, Password:
L261[09:52:18] <JoshTheEnder> Avast, multiMc is not a virus. just because you havent been on in two weeks doesnt mean you need to be throwing fits
L262[09:52:44] <SpiritedDusty> antivirus? those are still used? o.o
L263[09:53:03] <JoshTheEnder> yeah, mainly so windows will shut up about it
L264[09:53:14] <Wobbo> I have an antivirus just for safety
L265[09:54:22] <Vexatos> Which one?
L266[09:54:28] <SpiritedDusty> it's like when you have a condom. just for safety
L267[09:54:58] <JoshTheEnder> unless it's norton, then your pretty much fucked
L268[09:55:11] <Vexatos> Yea :D
L269[09:55:47] <Wobbo> ClamXav, which is a GUI wrapper around Clamav for Mac
L270[09:56:15] <SpiritedDusty> virus protection on a mac?
L271[09:56:27] <SpiritedDusty> I don't think anyone would bother making a virus for macs
L272[09:56:46] <Wobbo> One day, they will.
L273[09:56:58] <Wobbo> And then, my virus definitions will be outdated and I won’t notice
L274[09:57:55] <Gopher> they're not as common, but people have been "bothering" since macs started becoming the computer of choice for hipsters and other people with more money than judgement
L275[09:58:09] <Gopher> (or who place an unreasonable value on aesthetics of their computers' case)
L276[09:58:29] <Vexatos> Linux ftw!
L277[09:58:39] <Gopher> (or whose wrists would snap if their computer weighs more than a sandwich)
L278[09:58:45] <SpiritedDusty> I have a hackintosh. and I don't know why
L279[09:58:52] <Wobbo> Then gopher, in which of those four catergories do I belong? :P
L280[09:58:57] <Vexatos> If I ever were to win a Mac in some TV show or somewhere
L281[09:59:11] <Vexatos> I'd rather unistall the OS and install Linux just to use the good hardware :SD
L282[09:59:24] <Gopher> seriously, they started selling millions of macs, none of which had antivirus software because apple's official policy was "you don't need that"
L283[09:59:43] <Gopher> which would seem to make it a pretty tempting target for malware to me, lol
L284[10:00:38] <Gopher> best part was when malware (not really viruses, just the obnoxious ransomware type of trojans) started becoming a problem, apple's policy went from "macs don't have malware problems" was "we don't fix that."
L285[10:01:10] <Gopher> there were incidents of people being fired from apple stores for disregarding policy and removing malware from people's computers, because apple doesn't want to set the precedent that it's their responsibility.
L286[10:01:36] <Gopher> apple is evil, and they hate their own customers, is basically the take-away people should be making here.
L287[10:01:44] *** Biohazard is now known as COBOL
L288[10:02:35] *** COBOL is now known as Biohazard
L289[10:02:56] <ping> ._.
L290[10:03:02] <ping> mfw Gopher
L291[10:03:13] <ping> i diddnt know they were THAT evil
L292[10:03:44] <Gopher> they are. They always were. Jobs was charismatic and brilliant and oh, also probably a sociopath.
L293[10:03:48] <JoshTheEnder> what does an 'Interweb' do?
L294[10:04:05] <Bizzycola> it's used to crafft the internet card
L295[10:04:32] <JoshTheEnder> ahh
L296[10:04:42] <Bizzycola> I thought it was amusing :p
L297[10:05:07] <dangranos> where is Wired? his server is down nearly for a week
L298[10:05:41] <ping> i dunno :(
L299[10:05:56] <Wobbo> Wired himself hasn’t been online for 36 days, according to ?chanstats
L300[10:07:16] <ping> Gopher, have you foriven me yet?
L301[10:07:34] <Gopher> I skipped forgiving and just forgot, actually.
L302[10:07:47] <Gopher> thanks for reminding me! UNFORGIVEN
L303[10:08:02] <ping> apparently Wired was on 4 days ago
L304[10:08:20] <ping> http://puu.sh/877UV.png
L305[10:08:29] * Vexatos is not known as Wired
L306[10:08:46] * Biohazard is now known as Vexatos
L307[10:09:05] <Biohazard> <Vexatos> yo guys
L308[10:09:06] * ping is now know as Biohazard
L309[10:09:08] <Biohazard> jk
L310[10:09:10] <Wobbo> Sorry Biohazard, nobody will buy that :P
L311[10:09:11] <asie> Gopher: there's a problem, though
L312[10:09:16] <Biohazard> Wobbo: ik :p
L313[10:09:20] <Gopher> a problem with what?
L314[10:09:26] <asie> Linux takes far too much time to maintain and Windows doesn't satisfy my needs anymore
L315[10:09:31] <Gopher> oh.
L316[10:09:32] <asie> leaving... Haiku?
L317[10:09:41] <Gopher> Well, I'm not even commenting on the computers themselves.
L318[10:09:41] <JoshTheEnder> o/ asie
L319[10:09:42] <asie> I actually tried to use Haiku as a day-to-day operating system
L320[10:09:42] <asie> but failed
L321[10:09:44] <Gopher> Just the company that makes them.
L322[10:09:46] <Biohazard> wat, linux takes too much time to maintain?
L323[10:09:48] <asie> Gopher: Yeah, the company sucks
L324[10:09:49] <asie> Biohazard: Yes.
L325[10:09:54] <Biohazard> thats false
L326[10:09:57] <asie> Ubuntu doesn't count
L327[10:10:01] <Biohazard> i use arch
L328[10:10:02] <asie> Ubuntu has many more issues than that
L329[10:10:04] <asie> I used Arch too.
L330[10:10:04] <Biohazard> takes no time to maintain
L331[10:10:06] <asie> I know what I'm talking about
L332[10:10:13] <Biohazard> and i also know what i'm talking about
L333[10:10:13] <Biohazard> :p
L334[10:10:14] <asie> I used Arch, Gentoo, Ubuntu, Debian and Slackware
L335[10:10:31] <asie> out of those, I hold the highest regard for Gentoo, because it took a ton of time to maintain but it offered you very great advantages for that
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L337[10:10:35] <ping> :O
L338[10:10:39] <Kenny> Sangar: si there a way to get a date/time fojmr the OC computer?
L339[10:10:39] <ping> Biohazard_
L340[10:10:39] <Biohazard_> Hi
L341[10:10:43] <Biohazard> ye
L342[10:10:43] <Biohazard> rit
L343[10:10:44] <Biohazard> e
L344[10:11:02] <Wobbo> Biohazard_: better, but still not quite :P
L345[10:11:26] <Sangar> Kenny, os.time() i think?
L346[10:11:46] <Kenny> ok, kind of wondering what time it will return hehe
L347[10:11:51] <JoshTheEnder> .oc
L348[10:11:55] <JoshTheEnder> hmm
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L350[10:12:09] <Kenny> i've heard people say it came back with a date and tiem from 19709 hehe
L351[10:12:20] <Kenny> 1970*
L352[10:12:20] <JoshTheEnder> .oc local os=require("os") return os.time()
L353[10:12:20] <Kennyhazard> ...
L354[10:12:23] <JoshTheEnder> ok
L355[10:12:24] <dangranos> https://github.com/Overv/MineAssemble
L356[10:12:26] <dangranos> .-.
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L358[10:12:43] <JoshTheEnder> ping is ^v not connected to an OC instance?
L359[10:12:43] <dangranos> there should be redstone
L360[10:12:44] <Kenny> Josh, not necessary to a require on os
L361[10:12:48] <ping> JoshTheEnder, hope
L362[10:12:50] <ping> :(
L363[10:12:58] <JoshTheEnder> aww, ok
L364[10:13:02] <ping> i will once i get my computer running
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L366[10:13:13] <Wobbot> Hey Wobbo
L367[10:13:16] <JoshTheEnder> .wobbo
L368[10:13:16] <^v> JoshTheEnder, WoooobboooooWooobbooooWooooobboooooWoooooobboWoobboWooooooobbooooooooWooooooooobboooooooWooooobbooo
L369[10:13:20] <Wobbo> Hey Wobbot
L370[10:13:20] <JoshTheEnder> hehe
L371[10:14:58] <ping> Wobbot ._.
L372[10:15:13] <Wobbo> But, about the time. os.time should return the UNIX time since the start of the world. UNIX epoch is 1 januari 1970 if I am not mistaken
L373[10:15:37] <Wobbo> so according to OC, you world started at 1 januari 1970
L374[10:16:15] <ping> os.time returns the minecraft seconds your world existed
L375[10:16:22] <asie> neat
L376[10:16:48] <ping> minecraft seconds, so days are 86400 seconds
L377[10:17:13] <Bizzycola> it returns the seconds since 1/1/1970, so it should just give you the seconds since the world was created if it doesn't already? :p
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L380[10:17:32] <ping> you can calulate that
L381[10:18:18] <ping> seconds*(minecraft_days/real_days)
L382[10:19:05] <Wobbo> Bizzycola: It returns the number of seconds since the epoch, which is set to 1970 and the start of the world :P
L383[10:19:38] <Bizzycola> so in OC..it returns the seconds since the start of the world?
L384[10:19:45] <Wobbo> Yes
L385[10:19:51] <Bizzycola> Whats wrong with that? :p
L386[10:20:08] <ping> wait
L387[10:20:13] <Wobbo> If you format that as a string, it gets formatted like UNIX would, so it would return something in 1970
L388[10:20:27] <Bizzycola> Ah
L389[10:20:39] <Wobbo> That is what people get worked up about :P
L390[10:20:57] <Bizzycola> Well that makes sense
L391[10:21:00] <ping> someone had a MC world that existed for hundreds of days and it was in 1971
L392[10:21:13] <Bizzycola> fun :p
L393[10:21:42] <ping> .jenkins
L394[10:21:46] <Bizzycola> It really can't be that hard to calculate the number of days from the seconds and display it
L395[10:21:46] <^v> ping, Last successful build 5.41 MB http://goo.gl/n10cHi 43 min ago
L396[10:21:47] <Wobbo> It is expected Lua behavior though, if I am not mistaken
L397[10:22:03] <ping> NO CHROME ITS NOT A VIRUS
L398[10:22:12] <Wobbo> XD
L399[10:22:17] * ping slaps chrome
L400[10:22:40] <Vexatos> Heh
L401[10:23:07] <Vexatos> Our server at school once told my teacher that a file I uploaded (a mind-map program installer) would be a virus
L402[10:23:15] <Vexatos> because it marks every .exe file as a virus
L403[10:23:19] <Vexatos> She actually deleted it
L404[10:23:31] <Wobbo> XD
L405[10:23:41] <Vexatos> Next day I found out and re-uploaded the file as <program>.I-am-not-a-virus.exe
L406[10:24:07] <Vexatos> It still exists
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L408[10:24:10] zsh sets mode: +v on BevoLJ
L409[10:24:14] <Wobbo> XD
L410[10:24:35] <Wobbo> Did windows get the two extensions? :P
L411[10:24:45] <Vexatos> Yep
L412[10:25:01] <Vexatos> It does not care about multiple .
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L414[10:28:21] <ping> http://puu.sh/879b0.png
L415[10:29:03] <JoshTheEnder> hehe
L416[10:29:54] <ping> os.time returns minecraft seconds not real world seconds
L417[10:30:50] <ping> http://puu.sh/879lo.png
L418[10:31:08] <Bizzycola> yea its the interweb, you craft an internet card with it :p
L419[10:31:45] <Bizzycola> I am fairly certain you need a spider web to craft it :p
L420[10:32:06] <Bizzycola> and ender pearl or two
L421[10:32:09] <Bizzycola> I forget everything else :p
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L423[10:33:25] <Kenny> Sangar: wse have a small issue with the jar signing
L424[10:35:39] <Kenny> it is now issuing a warning that it expected fingerprint "<a number>" but got "" and they unless they were a modder working with a deob file they shuold redownload the mod
L425[10:35:41] <dangranos> hmm
L426[10:36:11] <Sangar> Kenny, re-download
L427[10:36:12] <dangranos> there should server which use interweb as money :D
L428[10:36:17] <dangranos> *should be
L429[10:36:26] <Bizzycola> heh fun
L430[10:37:47] <Kenny> dl'ed launching game again
L431[10:38:39] <Kenny> it is still there
L432[10:38:58] <ping> yay
L433[10:39:03] <Kenny> and i got trhe mesage in both 337 and 338
L434[10:39:08] <ping> random lag spike and computer crashes in the shell
L435[10:39:18] <ping> too long without yielding :)
L436[10:39:18] <Sangar> Kenny, 340 is latest, it should be gone there
L437[10:39:37] <Sangar> did i miss a link somewhere? i thought i changed them all
L438[10:40:17] <Kenny> it because the jar isn't not signed now that the jar signing software is issuikng a warning
L439[10:41:58] <Kenny> ok, it's gone with 340
L440[10:42:00] <ping> i just downloaded the latest from jenkins and it worked<^v> ping, Last successful build 5.41 MB http://goo.gl/n10cHi 43 min ago
L441[10:42:57] <Kenny> 337 was when you first stopped the jar siging so it somehow got into 338. didn't try 339 so don't know about it
L442[10:43:15] <Kenny> but 340 is ok
L443[10:44:42] <Sangar> good
L444[10:45:02] <Kenny> thru me for a loop when i first saw the message hehe
L445[10:51:31] <dangranos> goodnight
L446[10:51:41] <ping> night
L447[10:52:06] <Wobbo> I’m gone for dinner
L448[10:53:11] <ping> D:
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L450[11:00:56] <JoshTheEnder> yay, memory is full ¬_¬ dammit mc
L451[11:01:56] <JoshTheEnder> well, GC overhead exceded, though it has 2048M normal ram and 512M permgen
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L453[11:05:06] <din> Hai DerpaDerps
L454[11:05:13] <Bizzycola> sup
L455[11:05:25] <Bizzycola> And don't say the ceiling or the sky, the light, etc :p
L456[11:05:26] * JoshTheEnder bows towards din
L457[11:05:35] * din kisses JoshTheEnder
L458[11:05:46] <din> eeeew. Your mouth smells like poop
L459[11:05:59] * JoshTheEnder looks confused and returns to the shadows
L460[11:06:19] <Bizzycola> :p
L461[11:06:26] <din> I wish I knew how awesome LInux was before
L462[11:09:34] <JoshTheEnder> i would use linux all the time but i cba to switch to windows when i want to play something other than minecraft or do college work
L463[11:09:42] <Bizzycola> ikr
L464[11:09:48] <Bizzycola> I hate that so many of my games are windows specific :p
L465[11:09:51] <din> I dual booted cause Games'
L466[11:12:05] <Bizzycola> I hardly ever play anything other then MC and BF2
L467[11:12:12] <Bizzycola> but I couldn't even get BF2 to run well on linux
L468[11:12:19] <Bizzycola> it runs but it's slow and has annoying bugs :p
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L470[11:21:02] <Death> I used to dualboot linux/Win8 because games and shit until the laptop was broken and my dad never let me fix it.
L471[11:21:05] <Michiyo> Hmm I can't seem to target li.cil.oc.api.CreativeTab.Instance for a creative tab anymore... :/
L472[11:26:47] *** tgame14|away is now known as tgame14
L473[11:26:56] <Michiyo> Damn, and Sangar is away..
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L475[11:39:33] <Wobbo> I’ back
L476[11:46:50] <Wobbo> Gopher: How is the compiler coming along?
L477[11:47:29] <Gopher> good, good. compiling literals was simple enough, working on compiling binary operator nodes now, nearly got that working
L478[11:47:46] <Wobbo> Neat
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L480[11:48:00] <Gopher> I give it "2*(1+1)-5" and it spits back "#BCHn#BBHn#BB+*Hn#BF-"
L481[11:48:09] <Gopher> which I'm about to check, heh
L482[11:48:22] <ping> cloudy doesnt like it when i talk about OC in the cc channel
L483[11:48:28] <JoshTheEnder> lol
L484[11:48:37] <Gopher> aaand yawp, that is correct
L485[11:48:45] <ping> even though, i never even said OC
L486[11:48:55] <ping> i just posted a pic of interweb
L487[11:49:00] <ping> ._. wait...
L488[11:49:00] <Gopher> you did earlier, I remember :P
L489[11:49:04] <ping> does this mean
L490[11:49:07] <ping> he used OC
L491[11:49:10] <Bizzycola> Well if he immediately knows it's OC
L492[11:49:16] <Gopher> ffs ping, lol
L493[11:49:17] <ping> and saw the interweb
L494[11:49:22] <Bizzycola> Then he's..oh what's tat magic word, starts with H.. :p
L495[11:49:24] <Gopher> [12:35:45] <ping> OC has interwebs now :3 http://puu.sh/879lo.png
L496[11:49:29] <Bizzycola> oh
L497[11:49:31] <ping> oh yeah, i faild
L498[11:49:37] <Gopher> dunno why mirc bolded that paste?
L499[11:49:41] <Bizzycola> nevermind then :p
L500[11:49:48] <Gopher> anyway, yeah, you specifically mentioned OC lol
L501[11:50:25] <Gopher> ok, binary expressions: compiling! :D
L502[11:50:33] * ping headdesks
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L504[11:51:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Guys, I come to warn you.
L505[11:51:04] <Gopher> I can do an optimization pass later, any literal followed by a push can be changed to a push literal..
L506[11:51:11] <Gopher> but not gonna think about that for now
L507[11:51:19] <Gopher> the end of the world as we know it?
L508[11:51:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Space Engineers is cursed
L509[11:51:43] <Wobbo> Gopher: nice!
L510[11:51:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Once you start playing, you can't stop
L511[11:51:57] *** Death is now known as FOOD
L512[11:52:10] <ShadowKatStudios> I've been playing it for 36 hours now.
L513[11:52:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Avoid playing it, you'll never escaaaape
L514[11:53:13] <Wobbo> You will never escape the black hole that is space enigneers :P
L515[11:53:20] <Bizzycola> I stop playing it all the time
L516[11:53:23] <Bizzycola> I barely play it at all :p
L517[11:53:40] <Gopher> I'm getting kindof tired of the "buy now we'll finish it later, pinky-swear" model of game development, honestly.
L518[11:53:51] <Bizzycola> ikr
L519[11:54:01] <Wobbo> Like minecraft? :P
L520[11:54:05] <Bizzycola> Yea :p
L521[11:54:17] <Gopher> yes. Tho I shoudl note I bought minecraft at version 1.2.5
L522[11:54:21] <Wobbo> But yeah, some games just never finish
L523[11:54:36] <Gopher> actually, no, 1.3, I just ended up playing 1.2.5 more at first because mods
L524[11:54:40] <Wobbo> Gopher: I bought minecraft when Notch just started Infdev
L525[11:54:49] <Bizzycola> I got mc at 1.8 beta
L526[11:55:11] <Gopher> the difference between minecraft and some games that try to follow it's model
L527[11:55:14] <JoshTheEnder> 1.8.1 here
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L529[11:55:20] <Bizzycola> first time I played it, with my brother, we got stuck in a cave for 3 hours before thinking of digging stairs up :p
L530[11:55:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I started playing B1.3, actually spent money and got 1.8
L531[11:55:42] <Gopher> is minecraft was not, in most respects, all that ambitious, at first. There's nothing minecraft does that would've made any competent programmer say "That's ... gonna be /hard/"
L532[11:56:23] *** FOOD is now known as Death
L533[11:56:29] <Bizzycola> You underestimate me...wait..does that mean I'm not competent..
L534[11:56:29] <Bizzycola> :p
L535[11:56:35] <Wobbo> I started playing (Classic) Creative and survival test, then I bought it and spent some weeks playing indev, found out that wasn’t updated anymore and jumped to infdev
L536[11:56:41] <Wobbo> XD
L537[11:57:04] <Bizzycola> I suppose if I ever learned anything about 3D modeling it might be less hard :p
L538[11:57:08] <Bizzycola> or 3d programming
L539[11:57:12] <Bizzycola> or anything 3d :p
L540[11:57:16] <Gopher> what 3d modeling? it's cubes.
L541[11:57:34] <Bizzycola> Yea I meant to say programming
L542[11:57:38] <Bizzycola> typed modeling for some reason
L543[11:57:56] <Gopher> even then.. cubes are "my first opengl program" material XD
L544[11:58:27] <Bizzycola> Except the building animated players and mobs out of them all in code :p
L545[11:58:44] <Bizzycola> Not even sure how to go about with 3D rendering :p
L546[11:58:52] <Gopher> that all came a good bit later in development, if I remember correctly?
L547[11:59:01] <Wobbo> Computer Science has a course on Computer Graphics here, but it is at the same time as natural language processing and AI 2, which I both want to take, otherwise I might help you :P
L548[11:59:38] <Gopher> but that sort of crude hierarchical animation isn't that hard, either. It's not like it's doing complex mesh transforms or anything, lol
L549[11:59:49] <Wobbo> Mobs weren’t in the first versions of creative no
L550[12:00:07] <Bizzycola> Well it might not be hard, I don't know because I don't know how to do it :p
L551[12:00:33] <Bizzycola> I can't always think logically very well. For example, I can't think of how I would go about writing a cave generator, 2D or otherwise :p
L552[12:00:48] <Gopher> then sadly, no, you are not a competent 3d game programmer. I'm sorry if this is shocking and sad news for you, lol
L553[12:00:57] <Wobbo> I think it is :P
L554[12:00:58] <Bizzycola> Of course not
L555[12:01:02] <Bizzycola> I'd have to learn it first :p
L556[12:02:26] <Gopher> ok, now the fun part, I start compiling /identifiers/.
L557[12:02:26] <Bizzycola> I bet if I reaallly tried I could create a basic block game with basic player in C#/XNA
L558[12:02:39] <Bizzycola> But it'd be flat unless I can figure out how these darn generators work :p
L559[12:02:41] <Gopher> which means references that have to be tracked and finalized.
L560[12:02:48] <JoshTheEnder> how do you paste to an OC computer?
L561[12:02:54] <Bizzycola> I don't know :p
L562[12:03:01] <Gopher> shift-insert
L563[12:03:07] <Bizzycola> Oh
L564[12:03:13] <Bizzycola> I wish I'd known that 700 times before..
L565[12:03:25] <Bizzycola> ctrl+v too hard? :p
L566[12:03:40] <Gopher> ctrl+v has behavior affected by minecraft itself
L567[12:03:45] <Gopher> also, it frees you to use ctrl+v for in-game stuff
L568[12:03:46] <Bizzycola> ah
L569[12:04:01] <Gopher> like I do in gml, which supports ctrl+c/ctrl+v on text field objects
L570[12:04:05] <JoshTheEnder> grr, cant seem to wget https links
L571[12:04:08] <Michiyo> yay.. the printer container now works...
L572[12:04:19] <Gopher> josh, what links?
L573[12:04:20] <Gopher> github?
L574[12:04:35] <Bizzycola> Does the printer mod do much useful before look good yet?
L575[12:04:39] <Bizzycola> besides
L576[12:04:41] <JoshTheEnder> yah
L577[12:04:45] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/87fZt.jpg if github remove the "usercontent" from the url
L578[12:04:50] <Michiyo> raw.github.com/etc/etc
L579[12:04:54] <Bizzycola> also looks
L580[12:04:59] <Michiyo> Bizzycola, it now holds items.
L581[12:05:03] <Bizzycola> cool
L582[12:05:04] <Gopher> raw.githubusercontent.etc? if so, drop the userbit, just raw.github.com and rest the same
L583[12:05:08] <Wobbo> Gopher: That indeed sounds hard
L584[12:05:37] <Michiyo> I have the custom slot stuff set now, so you can only place the proper items in their slots.
L585[12:05:47] <Michiyo> currently you can't take anything OUT of the container.. but yeah lol
L586[12:05:52] <Gopher> the githubusercontent.com domain requires login authentication, but the same links work on github.com without it
L587[12:06:27] <Bizzycola> Well removing cannot be far off from adding!
L588[12:06:43] <Bizzycola> and even replacing one item with another
L589[12:08:14] <Michiyo> Now I can try to figure out how to write NBT to a item from a TE.
L590[12:09:43] <Bizzycola> good luck then
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L592[12:09:54] <JTE|TheUnderworld> hai
L593[12:09:59] <Bizzycola> hia
L594[12:10:00] <JoshTheEnder> :P
L595[12:10:13] <Wobbo> Shouldn’t you be in, you know, the End and stuff?
L596[12:10:15] <Bizzycola> ingame? :p
L597[12:10:27] <JTE|TheUnderworld> bizzy, yes
L598[12:10:31] <Bizzycola> Ah
L599[12:10:34] <JTE|TheUnderworld> wobbo, not all the time
L600[12:10:36] <Bizzycola> sup minecraft josh :p
L601[12:10:43] <JTE|TheUnderworld> huehuehue]
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L603[12:11:06] <JTE|TheUnderworld> i wish i'd put this on a server cause i put the computer in a stupid place ¬_¬
L604[12:11:49] <JTE|TheUnderworld> hold on where is my raspberry pi
L605[12:12:07] <Bizzycola> in a tree
L606[12:12:30] <Bizzycola> Lets create an OC IRC bouncer
L607[12:12:44] <Bizzycola> so we can have multiple OC computers connected to the same nick for funzies
L608[12:13:19] <Bizzycola> btw how'd that dns server go/
L609[12:13:30] <JTE|TheUnderworld> i'm currently setting one up on my pi so that i can relaunch minecraft and stuff and i dont want to have a non-secured connection to my main vps
L610[12:13:45] <JTE|TheUnderworld> havent worked on it recently cause i was in the states for the last 2 weeks
L611[12:14:12] <Bizzycola> Ahh
L612[12:17:20] <Wobbo> Bizzycola: That actually doesn’t sound to hard. You just need a computer that is connected with irc that listen on a channel and broadcasts everything it gets back on another one. (or the same, really)
L613[12:17:33] <din> AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
L614[12:17:37] <Bizzycola> Indeed
L615[12:17:42] * din ditches Linux
L616[12:17:54] <Bizzycola> It'd basically just be a proxy :p
L617[12:17:59] <JoshTheEnder> din, what did you do/
L618[12:18:06] <Bizzycola> I wrote a socks5 proxy once for fun
L619[12:18:10] <JoshTheEnder> also while i'm sorta afk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEUeWnV73U
L620[12:18:10] -Kibibyte- [JoshTheEnder] Bad Apple!! (HQ, Download, English subtitles) | by whispersiichan | 3m40s | 232w2d ago | 5,160,82 views | Rated: 4.95/5.00
L621[12:18:21] <din> JoshTheEnder, I can't open Popcorn time :(
L622[12:18:22] <Wobbo> Then you need an event listener that listens for network messages and passes them onto the irc client
L623[12:19:08] <Bizzycola> Problem is, I don't think you can host a tcp server on OC
L624[12:19:17] <Bizzycola> So it would require modifying the IRC client a bit
L625[12:19:40] <SpiritedDusty> der... someone on a CC server said OC depends on CC...
L626[12:19:50] <Bizzycola> lol'd
L627[12:19:51] <JoshTheEnder> well, they are a moron
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L629[12:24:30] <JoshTheEnder> right, there. raspberry pi is back on the wifi, now to set up znc on it
L630[12:30:47] <JTE|TheUnderworld> right, while znc is compiling, i'ma do more stuff on ym world
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L634[12:40:13] <Wobbo> SpiritedDusty: I guess he thought that Lua was only used with CC :P
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L637[12:43:57] <JoshTheEnder> hmm, maybe i should have removed some of the moduals before i started compliling znc ¬_¬
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L639[12:50:17] <Wobbo> I like better world generation, I don’t know who linked it to me, but thanks!
L640[12:50:31] <Wobbo> Now I can play on Indev maps with all the features of newer minecrafts :D
L641[12:51:15] <JoshTheEnder> yeah, i like BWG
L642[12:51:45] <JoshTheEnder> though i wish it could do a world that was caveworld on the bottom and normal terrain ontop
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L647[13:02:35] <JoshTheEnder> grr, where is SuPeRMiNoR2?
L648[13:02:38] * JoshTheEnder stabs SuPeRMiNoR2
L649[13:03:26] <Wobbo> LOL I got more redstone than iron now
L650[13:03:51] <JoshTheEnder> meh, i'ma play gmod for a bit
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L652[13:07:55] <Wobbo> Gopher: you know what is pretty funny actually?
L653[13:07:59] <Gopher> ?
L654[13:08:34] <Wobbo> You are working on something that you are calling high level robot language, while it is actually more low level than C :P
L655[13:09:00] <Gopher> and much more low-level than lua, in most respects XD
L656[13:09:08] <Gopher> but much more high level than rl bytecode!
L657[13:10:05] <Gopher> okie, expressions including variable names are compiling, with proper correction for stack offsets based on ongoing calculations
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L659[13:11:12] <Gopher> ex, a=2 a^a+a -> H#BC K#BB Hn K#BC Hn ^ Hn K#BC Hn
L660[13:11:26] <Wobbo> Nice
L661[13:12:00] <Nentify> Hey ^^
L662[13:12:02] <Gopher> or a^a^a -> K#BB Hn K#BC Hn K#BD ^ ^
L663[13:12:08] <Gopher> hi, nentify
L664[13:13:12] <Gopher> next up: compiling function calls. :shudder:
L665[13:13:28] <Gopher> this'll be a fun one. Function calls will have unresolvable addresses in the first compile pass.
L666[13:13:44] <Gopher> so gotta track metadata to let me resolve them in a second pass.
L667[13:14:05] <Gopher> I guess I could just require functions be declared before they're called... but what's the fun in that? :P
L668[13:14:53] <Wobbo> Gopher: I would go with the no fun option :P
L669[13:15:04] <Gopher> actually... yeah... screw that, it'll be a pita and result in a potentially expensive second pass, which actually requires repeated application to fully resolve
L670[13:15:39] <Gopher> since resolving one address can resize all references to it, causing the address to change, changing other addresses and potentially resizing them, and etc..
L671[13:15:48] <Nentify> Is OC efficient for a server?
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L674[13:17:52] <Wobbo> Nentify: As far as I am aware, yes
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L683[13:39:09] * Kenny whacks ping on the back, "How ya doing?"
L684[13:42:13] <Wobbo> I’m going
L685[13:42:17] <Wobbo> Bye!
L686[13:42:20] <Nentify> Bye!
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L688[13:42:35] <Gopher> later, wo...bbo
L689[13:43:30] <Nentify> Too slow Gopher :(
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L716[15:13:35] <Gopher> aaand finally, function calls. Unanticipated issue there, functions cna return multiple values... which requires handling when they are part of expressions, ex, f(1)==0 when f returns number,bool
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L719[15:15:13] <Gopher> but if not used in operations with other values, multiples should be kept, eg, a,b=f(1) should set a and b to f's 2 return values.
L720[15:15:33] <Gopher> same with g(f(1)), all returns from f should become args to g
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L722[15:16:22] <Gopher> and in one of those rare exceptions, supporting something lua doesn't support - g(f(1),f(2)), with f returning 2 vals, will pass 4 vals to g. in lua, it would pass 3, as all but the last get truncated to their first.
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L730[15:37:35] <Flenix> [2014-04-13 22:36:23] [SEVERE] [Forestry] li.cil.oc.OpenComputers$ failed validation. Halting runtime for security reasons. Please replace your mods with untampered versions from the official download sites. <<-- interesting
L731[15:38:26] <Flenix> That's with OpenComputers-MC1.6.4-1.2.7.339-universal
L732[15:39:30] <Flenix> (Out of interest, how exactly do you do that security check? I'd love to add it to mine to make my anti-technic code a bit more secure ;))
L733[15:39:58] <ping> ._.
L734[15:40:09] <ping> why is forestry...
L735[15:40:44] <Flenix> I didn't even notice the forestry tag til you said that. I should note I've not changed forestry in this update
L736[15:41:10] <Flenix> Before updating I had OpenComputers-MC1.6.4-1.2.3.287-universal, and forestry has been A-2.3.1.0 the entire time
L737[15:41:37] <ping> 1.2.3 is horribly outdates
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L739[15:43:45] <Dean4Devil> o/
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L742[15:55:25] <Dean4Devil> Yall dead or just no one wants to talk to poor Dean?
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L745[16:01:36] <Nentify> anti-technic code.. really..
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L747[16:23:56] <Kenny> actually busy coding
L748[16:24:32] <Kenny> Flenix, update to 340
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L755[16:34:25] <Flenix> yes Nentify - until they add some sort of moderation to their packs I'll have it. Alright Kenny will do, thanks
L756[16:34:42] <Nentify> lol..
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L760[17:07:40] <Gopher> god, this compiler has become such a mess of redundant code. >.<
L761[17:08:39] <Gopher> but! I have now actually, truly, properly implemented every aspect of compiling expressions. I think. Every test case I can think of at the moment works, anywaty.
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L765[17:11:19] <test> That's pretty cool
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L777[19:14:58] <Coreymills26> heyy all
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L779[19:15:33] <Gopher> hi
L780[19:15:42] <ShadowKatStudios> I have escaped!
L781[19:16:06] <ShadowKatStudios> My mum wanted her computer back and mine won't run Space Engineers
L782[19:16:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Also hai
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L784[19:17:16] <Kenny> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlIxdbQIUAAjqdw.jpg:large
L785[19:17:27] <Kenny> Aurleyian and Soaryn
L786[19:17:53] <Kenny> https://twitter.com/LexManos/status/455503204001013760/photo/1
L787[19:17:58] <Kenny> Direwolf20
L788[19:18:37] <Kenny> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlJGQx2IEAAYmEU.jpg:large
L789[19:18:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Why are there people from the internet meeting in /person/ ? :o
L790[19:18:43] <Kenny> Slowpoke
L791[19:18:51] <Kenny> PAX East
L792[19:19:06] <Kenny> MC tournament in Bostom this weekend
L793[19:19:10] <ShadowKatStudios> But... this is the internet :P Fair enough :P
L794[19:20:11] <Kenny> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlJGvX5IAAER0I7.jpg:large
L795[19:20:15] <Kenny> Eddy Ruckus
L796[19:20:22] <Gopher> bbl
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L798[19:21:11] <Kenny> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlJBEIPIEAErE0o.jpg:large
L799[19:21:16] <Kenny> BararSyed
L800[19:21:26] <Kenny> ArbarSyed*
L801[19:22:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, wonderful, spam in the lounge section
L802[19:23:04] <pong> wat
L803[19:23:20] <ShadowKatStudios> On the forums
L804[19:23:45] <Kenny> link
L805[19:24:04] <pong> http://puu.sh/87O57.png kinky
L806[19:24:10] <pong> http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/44-wydalania-viii-ulamek-zapomnialen/
L807[19:24:15] <ShadowKatStudios> http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/44-wydalania-viii-ulamek-zapomnialen/ is spam D:
L808[19:24:49] <pong> i ninja
L809[19:25:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Out of curiosity, have you guys ever tried to explain why you type with capital letters and punctuation to someone that doesn't?
L810[19:26:25] <Kenny> how the hell am i supposed to read that
L811[19:26:57] <pong> there is not much of a point using capitals / punctuation
L812[19:27:51] <pong> that exists to make large amounts of text easier to read
L813[19:27:53] <ShadowKatStudios> But would you have an issue if most of what someone said was like 'brb lol' ?
L814[19:28:37] <Neonbeta> It msotly is tbh
L815[19:28:41] <pong> i dont usually talk with people like that
L816[19:28:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Like, not capitalising and punctuating for short messages is somewhat reasonable
L817[19:29:11] <Neonbeta> brb lol
L818[19:29:18] <ShadowKatStudios> I know people in real life that do that. I've blocked them from my email because it gives me a headache
L819[19:29:21] <Kenny> so why did you just capitalize the first word of that sentence
L820[19:29:35] <pong> habbit most likely
L821[19:29:50] <Kenny> habit*
L822[19:29:53] <pong> D:
L823[19:29:57] <pong> bad habit
L824[19:30:11] <Kenny> thinking of rabbits?
L825[19:30:14] <pong> yes
L826[19:30:16] <Neonbeta> habit habitatit
L827[19:30:27] <Kenny> habitually
L828[19:30:32] <pong> is cawing even a word
L829[19:30:45] * Neonbeta caws into the sunset
L830[19:30:47] <Kenny> so now you're a crow
L831[19:31:12] <pong> caw
L832[19:31:21] <pong> beep boop
L833[19:31:54] <Kenny> boop beep
L834[19:32:10] <Kenny> poop peep
L835[19:32:42] <pong> D:
L836[19:40:20] <ShadowKatStudios> D: This program hatess me D:
L837[19:41:23] <ShadowKatStudios> http://pastebin.com/MkxYW1Ls
L838[19:41:28] <pong> DD: This program hhatess mme D:*
L839[19:41:48] <ShadowKatStudios> .sksboard http://pastebin.com/MkxYW1Ls
L840[19:41:48] <^v> ShadowKatStudios, http:///paastebinn.com/MkxYWW1Ls
L841[19:42:11] <pong> rInsLoc:sub(1,rInsLoc:len()-1) = rInsLoc:sub(1,-2)
L842[19:42:35] <pong> .lua ("potator"):sub(1,-2)
L843[19:42:36] <^v> pong, potato
L844[19:43:18] <pong> so whats wrong SKS?
L845[19:43:51] <ShadowKatStudios> It doesn't do anything
L846[19:44:08] <ShadowKatStudios> It's meant to copy the bin, lib and usr folder to a folder of your choosing
L847[19:44:13] <pong> assert(filesystem.copy(foo))
L848[19:44:39] <pong> do that
L849[19:44:46] <pong> might print some useful info
L850[19:46:38] <ShadowKatStudios> I found the issue
L851[19:47:40] <ShadowKatStudios> :D My installer script works :D
L852[19:48:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Now I just have to make it decompress and install the bootloader :D
L853[19:49:49] <ShadowKatStudios> How do I get a program that isn't an autorun to detect where it is running from?
L854[19:50:49] <pong> .-. i dunno
L855[19:50:55] <pong> you can get the shell path
L856[19:51:39] <pong> .help shell.getWorkingDirectory()
L857[19:51:40] <^v> pong, Not found.
L858[19:51:42] <pong> fff
L859[19:51:43] <pong> .help shell.getWorkingDirectory
L860[19:51:44] <^v> pong, shell.getWorkingDirectory(): string Gets the path to the current working directory. This is an alias for os.getenv("PWD").
L861[19:51:48] <ShadowKatStudios> process.running looks like it would wok
L862[19:56:37] <ShadowKatStudios> How would I get the location of the last / in a string?
L863[19:56:48] <Michiyo> So... the printer..
L864[19:56:49] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/87Q4v.jpg
L865[19:56:52] <Michiyo> it does stuff now.
L866[19:57:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Thrilling message.
L867[19:57:24] <Michiyo> The content is not the important part. :P
L868[19:57:40] <pong> its also scary
L869[19:58:15] <pong> im afraid that printer will turn into a decepticon
L870[19:58:25] <Michiyo> then disable it. :D
L871[19:58:48] <Michiyo> B:Render3D=true :P
L872[19:59:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm a genius :D
L873[19:59:12] <pong> k
L874[19:59:30] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll reverse the string, find the first /, reverse it again, cut out from negated first /
L875[20:02:42] <pong> wat
L876[20:02:57] <pong> wat are you doin
L877[20:07:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Copying the autorun file
L878[20:07:15] <ShadowKatStudios> I could download it but that's unneeded internet usagee
L879[20:07:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Plus offline install
L880[20:07:32] *** Flenix is now known as SleepyFlenix
L881[20:07:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Now I'm trying to get this to 'work'
L882[20:07:48] <ShadowKatStudios> COnsidering it didn't copy the contents, and only made the folders.
L883[20:09:21] <pong> wait
L884[20:09:30] <pong> :|
L885[20:09:40] * gamax92 slaps pong
L886[20:10:07] <pong> .lua ("herpa/derp/autorun.lua"):match("/(.-)$")
L887[20:10:08] <^v> pong, derp/autorun.lua
L888[20:10:13] <pong> :/
L889[20:10:17] <gamax92> Same two distros, same two kernel versions, yet apparently they are different and support different features.
L890[20:10:24] * pong slaps lua patterns
L891[20:10:34] <gamax92> and the other kernel doesn't even boot.
L892[20:11:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Is there any issue with the line ' filesystem.copy("/bin/"..f,insLoc.."/bin/"..f) ' ?
L893[20:11:43] <pong> .lua ("herpa/derp/autorun.lua"):match(".+/(.-)$")
L894[20:11:44] <^v> pong, autorun.lua
L895[20:11:46] <pong> SKS ^
L896[20:12:24] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm not interested in the name of the program, I wanted where it was running from
L897[20:12:42] <ShadowKatStudios> local runningFrom = process.running():sub(1,-rFrFiSl-1) does the job
L898[20:13:05] <pong> "I'll reverse the string, find the first /, reverse it again, cut out from negated first /"
L899[20:13:20] <ShadowKatStudios> The reversed first / is the last /
L900[20:13:34] <pong> ik
L901[20:13:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Then I used the part before that /
L902[20:13:49] <ShadowKatStudios> So I could copy the bootloader
L903[20:14:02] <pong> :match(".+/(.-)$") ?
L904[20:15:58] <ShadowKatStudios> :D It worked!
L905[20:16:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Now, I'll just package the bootloader into the program and make it write to it.
L906[20:17:10] <ShadowKatStudios> How do I make a multiline string?
L907[20:17:24] <gamax92> "Hi\nThere!"
L908[20:20:33] <gamax92> hmm, wth, how do i have two different kernel from the same disto
L909[20:23:19] <ShadowKatStudios> :D Okay, now I have to make it write the bootloader
L910[20:23:29] <gamax92> ahh, a few i686 packages made there way onto my system
L911[20:25:28] <gamax92> Great job gamax92, you uninstalled glibc.
L912[20:26:58] <ShadowKatStudios> :D A fully self-contained installer
L913[20:27:03] <gamax92> ShadowKatStudios: halp
L914[20:27:13] <ShadowKatStudios> What'd I do?
L915[20:27:19] <gamax92> nothing, i did everything
L916[20:28:04] <gamax92> maybe one of these cd's has a rescue option
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L918[20:28:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Wait, you can't install a compiler because you uninstalled the compiler?
L919[20:28:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Or the libs or something?
L920[20:28:54] <gamax92> glibc isn't a compiler, its like, what every program in linux depends on.
L921[20:29:37] <ShadowKatStudios> I saw c on the end and assumed it was a compiler for c :P
L922[20:31:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Will 'if component.gpu.maxResolution >= 80,25 then' work?
L923[20:33:07] <gamax92> what, do i have to use the i686 kernel?
L924[20:35:05] <pong> gamax92, what OS?
L925[20:35:16] <gamax92> pong: Redhat Seawolf (or 7.1)
L926[20:35:23] <pong> well idk
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L928[20:36:11] <pong> but i know x86-64 kernels can run 32 bit things
L929[20:36:31] <gamax92> the problem is that I'm using the vm to compile things for my 486
L930[20:36:48] <gamax92> the kernel module i just compiled dunt work because the two kernels are differnet
L931[20:37:39] <ShadowKatStudios> I want to get an Amiga to run Linux on
L932[20:38:00] <ShadowKatStudios> 'Just Cause'
L933[20:38:00] <gamax92> what an odd request.
L934[20:38:58] <gamax92> this sucks, I'll have to go to qemu
L935[20:40:40] <ShadowKatStudios> So I can't buy Amiga 4000s? D:
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L937[20:44:36] <ShadowKatStudios> I need one with a FPU and MMU, and fully 32-bit
L938[20:44:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Then I can run linux on it :D
L939[20:45:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Heey, my bootloader works :D
L940[20:45:57] <ShadowKatStudios> It even sets the resolution to 80x25 if it is supported :D
L941[20:47:30] <gamax92> hmm, i switched from vbox to qemu, the hardware detector told me some Apple USB thingy was removed.
L942[20:47:59] <ShadowKatStudios> If anyone wants an installer for SKS-OS v-negative-1: http://pastebin.com/L6vMTCuJ
L943[20:49:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Currently includes bootloader
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L945[20:55:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Argh, they're all so expensive D:
L946[20:57:31] <gamax92> hmm, qemu crashes on i386 kernel, and virtualbox locks up.
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L948[20:57:47] <gamax92> even though it's qemu_system_i386
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L961[22:23:33] <ping> so
L962[22:23:50] <ping> some of you might remember my old cc textures
L963[22:24:35] <ping> i port them
L964[22:24:39] <SpiritedDusty> ping, DO WE? DO WE?!?!?!?
L965[22:24:45] <asie> >#oc
L966[22:24:47] <asie> >discussing cc
L967[22:24:53] <SpiritedDusty> logic
L968[22:25:08] <ping> >asie
L969[22:25:11] <ping> >implies logic
L970[22:25:24] <asie> >ping
L971[22:25:25] <ping> le http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/topic/9910-
L972[22:25:26] <asie> >implies implying
L973[22:25:35] <ping> exept gold wont look as good
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L975[22:27:34] <Death> >implication
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L977[22:29:23] <Kodos> So, what did I miss?
L978[22:29:48] <ping> http://puu.sh/87YSU.png
L979[22:30:01] <Kodos> Are those... creative tier computer parts?
L980[22:30:25] <SpiritedDusty> Kodos, its a custom texture...
L981[22:30:31] <Kodos> Oh
L982[22:30:35] <ping> :3
L983[22:31:02] <ping> not complete yet
L984[22:31:15] <ping> just got computer, monitor, keyboard and cable
L985[22:31:55] <Kodos> So who wants to take pity on me in my current state and assemble my old SSP pack for me into a Zip file
L986[22:34:19] <ping> cba do something tedious
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L988[22:41:25] <ping> youtube is broken
L989[22:41:26] <ping> http://puu.sh/87Zrn.png
L990[22:41:30] <ping> has been for awhile
L991[22:41:33] <ping> why google
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L993[22:53:52] <Kenny> Kodos, this is going to cost you
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L995[22:58:31] <asie> youtube a shit
L996[22:58:42] <ping> okay
L997[22:58:53] <ping> http://puu.sh/880f8.png
L998[22:58:59] <ping> yay george carlin
L999[23:03:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Time to reimpliment my old network stack...
L1000[23:04:19] <ping> wats a networks stak
L1001[23:04:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Allows a program to interface with a network in this case
L1002[23:08:46] <ping> wat
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L1004[23:12:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Ookay, filesystem buffering is now off.
L1005[23:14:19] * Kenny smacks Kodos, wake up
L1006[23:17:21] <ShadowKatStudios> It burns D:
L1007[23:17:34] <ShadowKatStudios> The internet is /really slow/ atm
L1008[23:17:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I must have gone over.
L1009[23:22:15] <ShadowKatStudios> First order of business: No more dependancy on tapes.
L1010[23:26:13] <Kodos> Sorry
L1011[23:26:16] <Kodos> Was tabbed out
L1012[23:26:52] <Kenny> read pm
L1013[23:27:29] <Kenny> i'm heading out y'all. about to fall out i'm so tired
L1014[23:27:34] <Kenny> nite y'all
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