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L1[00:00:04] <Wired> Gopher: Homework,
practicing Dv, and talking with ShadowKatStudios on Skype
 
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L4[00:10:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyone got a
recursive copy program?
 
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L6[00:13:38] <Kenny|Sleeping> \o
 
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L8[00:14:23] <Wired> Hi there
Kenny|Sleeping.
 
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L11[00:27:28] <Wired> Hi there asie.
 
L12[00:27:32] <Wired> How are you
doing?
 
L13[00:27:35] <asie> hi Wired
 
L14[00:27:36] <asie> tired
 
L15[00:27:40] <asie> i spent 16 hours on
the road yesterday
 
L16[00:27:45] <asie> going to Warsaw
(~300km from here) and back
 
L17[00:27:52] <asie> but it wasn't a
worthless trip!
 
L18[00:28:06] <asie> in addition to going
to the Worst Organized Maths Contest in the World
 
L20[00:29:05] <Wired> I see an apple logo,
what model?
 
L21[00:29:10] <asie> Wired: Macintosh
Classic
 
L22[00:29:38] <asie> not a good one but a)
it's a compact Mac b) it was free
 
L23[00:29:46] <asie> and c) it has 2MB RAM
(which means it has a daughterboard that lets me put up to
4MB)
 
L24[00:29:50] <Wired> Heh, how did you get
it? Did you win it?
 
L25[00:29:55] <asie> Wired: Trades.
 
L26[00:30:01] <asie> I've been trading
old computers for a while with a few internet people I met
 
L27[00:30:01] <Wired> Ah, what did you
trade for it?
 
L28[00:30:08] <asie> an Amiga 600 and an LC
III
 
L29[00:30:08] <Wired> Nice.
 
L30[00:30:15] <asie> which I got for an old
ARM netbook I bought and some other old computing stuff
 
L31[00:30:34] <asie> not a perfect trade,
but it's a compact Mac and I /love/ compact Macs
 
L32[00:30:38] <asie> they're cute and
not too big
 
L33[00:38:08] <Wired> But I love big old
computers.
 
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L35[00:41:17] <asie> Wired: I don't
have much space
 
L36[00:41:21] <asie> compact Macs
aren't too big, aren't too heavy
 
L37[00:41:25] <asie> but they're
reasonably nice to work with
 
L38[00:42:06] <Wired> I've never found
space to be a problem, it's just trying to find a space to put
the darned thing once you get to the point you won't touch it
for a while...
 
L39[00:42:22] <asie> Wired: Yes,
that's the problem
 
L40[00:42:29] <asie> there is one old
computer I have that I've never touched, though
 
L41[00:42:32] <asie> well, only once
 
L42[00:42:34] <asie> a Quadra 900
 
L43[00:42:39] <asie> I got it for free when
the internet collectors visited my town
 
L44[00:42:40] <ShadowKatStudios> asie: Was
there an immibis peripherals OC port for 1.6?
 
L45[00:42:43] <asie> it was so heavy they
did not want it back
 
L47[00:42:58] <Wired> Heh, how much does it
weigh?
 
L48[00:43:03] <asie> Wired: 28
kilograms.
 
L49[00:43:04] <asie> I think
 
L50[00:43:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Awesome
stuff
 
L51[00:43:17] <asie> wait what
 
L52[00:43:21] <asie> it seems to only weigh
11
 
L53[00:43:23] <asie> but that can't be
right
 
L54[00:43:24] <ShadowKatStudios> 404
 
L55[00:43:35] <asie> ShadowKatStudios:
hmm
 
L56[00:43:40] <asie> i can't remember
the link off memory
 
L57[00:43:40] <asie> let me see
 
L59[00:44:06] <asie> there we go
 
L60[00:44:07] <ShadowKatStudios> If one
existed It'll be fine, working on a list
 
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L62[00:44:21] <ShadowKatStudios> There we
go :D
 
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L66[00:48:00] <ShadowKatStudios> I made a
list, as a very basic thing.
 
L67[00:48:32] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
more ideas
 
L68[00:49:04] <ShadowKatStudios> And
updated again
 
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L72[00:51:40] <ShadowKatStudios> I should
really get my FTP server running, then I could self-host this
stuff
 
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L74[01:01:08] <ShadowKatStudios> So asie,
the Immibis Peripherals OC version doesn't need OC,
right?
 
L75[01:01:14] <asie> I have no idea
 
L76[01:01:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Wait,
doesn't need CC
 
L78[01:01:25] <asie> I think it
doesn't need CC yeah
 
L79[01:01:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool,
I'll give it a go
 
L80[01:01:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Also were
you going to add printers to computronics?
 
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L88[01:18:02] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: yes
but another mod is working on that
 
L89[01:18:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah,
OK
 
L90[01:18:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Atm you
have to use CC printers, and I want to avoid CC
 
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L92[01:20:10] <ShadowKatStudios> First pack
test is successful
 
L93[01:20:14] <asie> oh, look
 
L95[01:20:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool, a
Mac
 
L96[01:20:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Much
better than the current ones :P
 
L97[01:22:07] <asie> i have a current one
too
 
L98[01:22:08] <asie> and i agree
 
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L103[01:26:16] <asie> not my perfect list,
but hey, it has computronics
 
L104[01:27:12] <ShadowKatStudios> What
would you want in it/not want in it?
 
L105[01:27:42] <asie> well, i don't
like engineer's toolbox and gascraft, i would like to see
redlogic, and you should probably update AsieLib
 
L106[01:27:45] <asie> same with
BuildCraft
 
L107[01:27:58] <asie> same with
DimAnchors, Immibis' Core
 
L108[01:28:11] <asie> same with Ender
IO
 
L109[01:28:13] <asie> but yeah i'm
making my own pack anyway so whatever
 
L110[01:28:20] <ShadowKatStudios>
It's mostly local content, I wanted to just make one
quickly
 
L111[01:28:25] <asie> i see
 
L112[01:28:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Hence
the outdatedness
 
L113[01:28:35] <asie> ***don't make
packs quickly***
 
L114[01:28:38] <asie> i made that mistake
more often than not
 
L115[01:28:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, I
spent a lot of time editing this stuff a month or two ago
 
L116[01:29:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Then
lost interest, and now I'm working on it again
 
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L141[02:37:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Almost
all the stuff is updated :D
 
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L146[02:42:10] <Wired> Soo, Gopher: up to
anything new?
 
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L152[02:59:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Turns
out dir > output is a valid commamnd to put the directory
listing to a file
 
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L154[03:05:13] <asie> tp_misc?
 
L155[03:06:14] <Wired> Ignore that,
that's Teh's mod.
 
L156[03:07:43] <Wired> It add's some
random things, like creative-flight boots enchants.
 
L157[03:13:37] <asie> neat
 
L158[03:13:57] <asie> i'm likely
going to be working on my own machine mod
 
L159[03:14:05] <asie> essentially think
Thermal Expansion 1 only FOSS and with more machine variety
 
L160[03:14:06] <asie> so a BC addon
 
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L165[03:44:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Idea if
you want printers without duplicationg someone else's mod,
thermal printers, dark grey only, small width, long pages, made in
rolls
 
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L167[03:49:47] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: i
had that plan
 
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L172[04:10:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Where
does one put a thread for a server on the OC forums now?
 
L173[04:16:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
gonna build an oil rig and declare it a country and declare
closed-source software illegal. In Minecraft.
 
L174[04:19:45] <Bizzycola> So if someone
is building a nuclear silo they have to open source their security
system? :p
 
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L176[04:22:42] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yep.
 
L177[04:23:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Violence
will be illegal too.
 
L178[04:23:21] <ShadowKatStudios>
Insulting people is encouraged though
 
L179[04:27:26] <Wired> Bizzycola: That
makes perfect sense to me, but they should be open sourcing it
before they actually install it.
 
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L182[04:29:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Thered
be a publically accessable central source repository
 
L183[04:30:11] <Wired> Nah, that sounds
like crazy power control.
 
L184[04:30:50] <ShadowKatStudios> So that
people would upload their source for their program so others could
use it
 
L185[04:30:54] <Wired> Let's be fair.
There's a central one, but also you can host your own,
download the entire thing, do whatever the hell you want with it,
etc.
 
L186[04:31:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Well, it
could be a network of mirrors owned by different people
 
L187[04:31:41] <Wired> Isn't that
kind of what we already have with the AUR?
 
L188[04:32:21] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yep.
 
L189[04:34:15] <ShadowKatStudios> No
'central' control
 
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L192[04:43:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
then you could have message boards
 
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L195[05:06:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Idea:
RFID passports
 
L196[05:10:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Totally
gonna use em
 
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L199[05:39:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Hey
Asie, the server's running if you want to come on
 
L200[05:39:48] <asie> not right now
 
L201[05:41:39] <ShadowKatStudios>
Okay
 
L202[05:44:40] <ShadowKatStudios> It
really sucks when you're waiting for an email from someone and
you know it won't come until atleast tomorrow but you still
obsessively refresh your email...
 
L203[05:55:37] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: I
know that feel.
 
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L207[06:33:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Yeah, I
saw, I'm the person that would want to pull that beautiful
thing apart and put the 68k in it into something I could easily
program asie, as the 68k was apparently a nice chip
 
L208[06:33:17] <asie> ShadowKatStudios: it
was
 
L209[06:33:24] <asie> but please buy a 68k
from a broken mobo or something
 
L210[06:33:27] <asie> don't destroy
great old computers
 
L211[06:33:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Want
to.
 
L212[06:34:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I'd
more likley buy one from a surplus place or something
 
L213[06:34:22] <ShadowKatStudios> I want a
68060 to run Linux on
 
L214[06:34:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Or a
6502 to run FORTH on
 
L215[06:36:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Also a
thermal printer.
 
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L218[06:38:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
Something really horrible: People destory old computers for scrap
metal, and sell the (unusable) stuff for a fraction of what it was
worth before they destoryed it
 
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L221[06:41:07] <Vexatos> o.O
 
L222[06:44:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
really I want anything with a SPARC processor and SCSI disk
interface
 
L223[06:48:30] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
some Ultra160 SCSI HDDs I salvaged from an old server
 
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L227[07:08:56] <SKS|Asleep> I shall
collect all the logs!
 
L228[07:09:00] <SKS|Asleep> Okay, night
o/
 
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L230[07:09:10] <SKS|Asleep> *yawn*
 
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L232[07:12:33] <Bizzycola> There is an
achievement in my game for dying in every way possible. It will
take me forever to add all the different options to the save file
and it will be very very hard to get. :p
 
L233[07:12:57] <Bizzycola> Legit of
course, probably could crack if it you tried but I might not make
it easy :D
 
L234[07:13:36] <Bizzycola> I'll
encrypt the save file from a few hundred kilobytes to like 50 mb by
adding pointless padding and fake crap left and right just to screw
with people
 
L235[07:14:10] <Bizzycola> then run it
through some kind of actual encryption too just in case
 
L236[07:14:42] <Bizzycola> and the
achievements in the file will be encrypted seperately with a
completely different algorithm
 
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L238[07:16:22] <Kenny|Sleeping> \o
 
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L240[07:16:59] <Bizzycola> and if my game
detects any finger prints of you successfully cracking it
 
L241[07:17:03] <Bizzycola> ..you getan
achievement :p
 
L242[07:23:43] <Cazzar> im learning LWJGL
now >:D
 
L243[07:24:35] <Bizzycola> nice :p
 
L244[07:24:40] <Bizzycola> Never tried
game dev with java before
 
L245[07:24:54] <Bizzycola> Or at least not
that I can remember :p
 
L246[07:24:58] <Cazzar> im doing it for a
mod...
 
L247[07:25:09] <Bizzycola> Ah
 
L248[07:25:10] <Cazzar> then I had the
idea to port it over to Minecraft's ingame
 
L249[07:25:30] <Bizzycola> is awesome mod?
:p
 
L250[07:25:44] <Cazzar> Custom player
models essentially
 
L251[07:26:02] <Cazzar> people bitch it
doesnt work because of the over convoluded way of making it
 
L252[07:26:11] <Cazzar> I want to cut out
all of the steps if I can...
 
L253[07:26:25] <Cazzar> I just need to
learn ray tracing
 
L254[07:26:52] <Bizzycola> ah good luck
then!
 
L255[07:27:23] <Cazzar> ill screenshot
what I am doing in dev right now
 
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L258[07:29:59] <SKS|Asleep> Nope, not
tired enough
 
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L261[07:33:15] <Bizzycola> cool :p
 
L262[07:33:26] <Bizzycola> is LWJGL
fun?
 
L263[07:33:42] <Cazzar> Its fiddly unitil
you figure out GLU well
 
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L268[07:37:54] <Kenny|Sleeping> \o
 
L269[07:38:29] <Cazzar> If I manage to get
this, I will be happy
 
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L271[07:39:42] <ShadowKatStudios> How
would I generate 4096 bytes of 255 ?
 
L272[07:41:01] <Cazzar> Depends, java
code?
 
L273[07:46:53] <ShadowKatStudios> So now
my tape drive outputs a lot of squealing
 
L274[07:47:24] <ShadowKatStudios>
Don't write 0s to it
 
L275[07:50:21] <Bizzycola> I did that
once, title it "The best song ever" and put it in a
chest
 
L276[07:50:29] <Bizzycola> then ran off
:p
 
L277[07:52:54] <Gopher> hrm. just fed wget
a github url for a raw file view and got back an
"unrecognized_name" handshake error and nothing. Am I
doing it wrong or something?
 
L278[07:54:40] <Bizzycola> does wget do
https?
 
L279[07:57:03] <Gopher> well, I gave it an
https url, anyway. I was told wget works on github, but hadn't
actually tried it until now.
 
L280[07:57:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Does
anyone have a sample music file?
 
L281[07:58:06] <Bizzycola> The kind ready
to be written directly to a tape?
 
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L283[08:00:39] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yeah
 
L284[08:00:46] <Bizzycola> Yea I do
 
L285[08:00:47] <ShadowKatStudios>
Preferably one I could use an internet card on
 
L286[08:00:51] <Bizzycola> I'll
upload it one sec :p
 
L287[08:00:57] <Bizzycola> uhh
 
L288[08:01:03] <Bizzycola> so..does that
mean no https/ :p
 
L289[08:01:26] <ShadowKatStudios>
Dunno
 
L290[08:01:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Does OC
wget like https?
 
L291[08:01:47] <ShadowKatStudios> And how
big a tape does it need?
 
L292[08:02:23] <Bizzycola> I usually use 8
minutes to be safe :p
 
L293[08:02:46] <Bizzycola> the song is
nearly 4 minutes so I dunno if it will fit on the 4 minute one or
not
 
L294[08:03:40] <ShadowKatStudios>
I'll eventually get network broadcasting working, then
broadcast music accross the server I play on :D
 
L296[08:04:29] <Bizzycola> direct link, no
https
 
L297[08:08:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Lol,
it's freaking out trying to print it
 
L298[08:08:05] <ShadowKatStudios> And I
killed it
 
L299[08:09:51] <ShadowKatStudios> HDDs
make a lot of noise when loading an audio file
 
L300[08:10:46] <ShadowKatStudios>
Fireflies!
 
L301[08:10:48] <ShadowKatStudios> With
static :D
 
L302[08:11:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Is this
audio 16-bit?
 
L303[08:11:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Because
that is beautiful :D
 
L304[08:11:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Now I
just need to make network streaming
 
L305[08:12:26] <Bizzycola> 8bit I think
:p
 
L306[08:12:42] <Bizzycola> sounds a bit
funny but its pretty good imo
 
L307[08:12:46] <ShadowKatStudios> If the
max packet size is 8192 bytes, and there are 4096 bytes/sec, and
you transmit 8192/tick, that's pretty good
 
L308[08:13:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Then you
seek/play repeatedly
 
L309[08:13:09] <Cazzar> Bizzycola
apparantly my brother hates me for being able to code my LWJGL test
program
 
L310[08:13:34] <ShadowKatStudios> That
audio is pretty good
 
L311[08:13:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Now, I
need to make audio streaming.
 
L312[08:14:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Then
hah.
 
L313[08:14:01] <Bizzycola> Why's
that/ :p
 
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L315[08:14:06] <Bizzycola> And yea it
isn't bad
 
L316[08:14:17] <Bizzycola> I made like 4
songs in m world I think
 
L317[08:14:27] <Bizzycola> that was the
last one so I still had the audio file in my conversion
folder
 
L318[08:14:29] <ShadowKatStudios> So that
I can run a radio station
 
L319[08:14:43] <ShadowKatStudios>
'Just cause'
 
L320[08:14:50] <Bizzycola> I need to
finish that apaste site and upload a bunch of songs to it :p
 
L322[08:14:56] -Kibibyte- [Cazzar] (VOCALOID 3)
FireFlies Gumi English DEMO | by israeldelacruzchanel | 3m40s |
59w3d ago | 922 views | Rated: 
4.73/5.00 
L323[08:15:13] <Bizzycola> no idea what
that is :p
 
L324[08:15:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Do
messages take more power to transmit the more data is in each
packet?
 
L325[08:15:28] <Cazzar> you know Owl
City's fireflys?
 
L326[08:15:36] <Bizzycola> that's the
song I gave him
 
L327[08:15:46] <Bizzycola> owl city one
:p
 
L328[08:15:49] <Cazzar> that's a
vocaloid english cover :P
 
L329[08:16:14] <Cazzar> by the sounds of
it the VSQx was made by a non-native english speaker
 
L330[08:16:16] <ShadowKatStudios> How do
you manage to convert it without something breaking?
 
L331[08:16:51] *
ShadowKatStudios hasn't managed to convert anything
yet 
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L334[08:17:35] <Kenny|Sleeping> the singer
is most likely Israeli
 
L335[08:18:04] <Bizzycola> with great
lels
 
L336[08:18:40] <Bizzycola> I compiled the
provided java class and use that along with audacity, that sox
software and a batch script that takes a parameter for the file
then runs everything
 
L337[08:18:50] <Bizzycola> well everything
except using audacity, I have to do that myself
 
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L339[08:20:07] *
ShadowKatStudios used ffmpeg 
L340[08:20:35] <Bizzycola> if I could be
arsed I could probably use ffmpeg and literally just have a batch
script do everything :p
 
L341[08:20:56] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
gonna do that
 
L342[08:22:09] <ShadowKatStudios> That way
I don't have to mess around too much
 
L343[08:22:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
once it's done. Getting it done on the other hand...
 
L344[08:23:44] <ShadowKatStudios> First
song to convert: 'Fuck you google plus' might be a good
one.?
 
L345[08:23:45] <Bizzycola> all I'd
have to do is replace my audacity process with ffmpeg
 
L346[08:23:49] <Bizzycola> just a simple
conversion anyways
 
L347[08:29:18] <ShadowKatStudios> What
ffmpeg command would I need to do to convert an mp3 file to a
compatible wav file?
 
L348[08:31:23] <Bizzycola> hmm
 
L349[08:31:27] <Bizzycola> lemme find
ffmpeg and figure it out :p
 
L350[08:32:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Not a
riff wave file?
 
L351[08:33:55] <Bizzycola> I use audacity
to output a 16bit signed pcm wav file
 
L352[08:35:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Big
endian or little endian?
 
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L354[08:38:11] <ShadowKatStudios>
Signed
 
L355[08:38:21] <ShadowKatStudios> -b is
big-endian?
 
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L357[08:42:05] <Kenny> \o
 
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L359[08:46:33] <Bizzycola> mm
 
L360[08:46:45] <Bizzycola> ffmpeg
won't let me change the output bitrate :p
 
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L362[08:50:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, so
no tapes from ffmpeg? D:
 
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L367[08:55:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Lol,
it's derping right out
 
L368[08:55:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Timing
is a little off
 
L369[08:55:45] <ShadowKatStudios> But I
have audio over wireless networks
 
L370[08:55:45] <Bizzycola> got the command
right
 
L371[08:56:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
You'd think me rude but I would just stand and
stare-are-are-are-are
 
L372[08:56:23] <ShadowKatStudios>
see-see-seems
 
L373[08:56:44] <Bizzycola> ffmpeg -i
mysong.mp3 -acodec pcm_s16le -b:a output.wav
 
L374[08:56:56] <Bizzycola> oh sorry
 
L375[08:57:03] <Bizzycola> ffmpeg -i
mysong.mp3 -acodec pcm_s16le output.wav
 
L376[08:57:26] <Bizzycola> then with sox
do sox output.wav -e signed-integer -b 8 -c 1 -r 32768
tmp.raw
 
L377[08:57:35] <ShadowKatStudios>
Broadcasting 1 second is better than 2
 
L378[08:57:47] <Bizzycola> then with a
batch script you can run the compiled java class like: java DFPWM
-e < tmp.raw > audio
 
L379[08:57:49] <ShadowKatStudios>
fare-fare-fare-fare-farewell
 
L380[08:58:41] <ShadowKatStudios> that
planet earth-th-th-th t-turns slow-low-low-lowly it's hard to
say-ay-ay-ay
 
L381[08:58:47] <Bizzycola> :p
 
L382[08:59:02] <Bizzycola> well my
conversion process is now one bat file that takes an mp3
parameter
 
L383[08:59:28] <Bizzycola> or I suppose
any audio file that ffmpeg takes as a parameter actually
 
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L385[08:59:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
holy crud it worked, I had audio over network
 
L386[08:59:52] <Bizzycola> nice
 
L387[09:00:01] <Bizzycola> Radio
station!
 
L388[09:00:46] <Bizzycola> I could
literally just zip up a folder with sox, ffmpeg, the jar and my bat
file
 
L389[09:00:51] <Bizzycola> and anyone
could convert their music :p
 
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L392[09:01:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Could
you do that? :D
 
L393[09:02:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Note
about radio station: Timing is way off, probably something to do
with dodgy seek-write-seek
 
L394[09:02:40] <Bizzycola> Yes I could
:p
 
L395[09:02:46] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
 
L396[09:02:51] <Bizzycola> just gotta
remember where I put ffmpeg..
 
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L398[09:04:23] <ShadowKatStudios> Perfect,
3:33
 
L399[09:05:31] <ShadowKatStudios> I need
MOAR POWER :D
 
L400[09:06:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Not fun
when your power cuts out a lot
 
L401[09:07:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
when you're reading several MB to RAM and the computer crashes
cause you used too much power
 
L402[09:07:47] <ShadowKatStudios>
Fireflies only took up 23% of a 4MB HDD
 
L403[09:08:40] <ShadowKatStudios>
Alternatively, stream, large amount of data quickly, include data
when next to wait for more data
 
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L407[09:10:36] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
several IDE drives
 
L408[09:11:23] <Bizzycola> my magic folder
worked!
 
L409[09:11:38] <Bizzycola> ran the batch
script and go me a nice mp3
 
L410[09:11:42] <Bizzycola> usage
instructions included! :p
 
L411[09:11:54] <dangranos> what?
 
L412[09:11:55] <ShadowKatStudios> :o A
Socket 1 motherboard
 
L413[09:12:37] <ShadowKatStudios> I
didn't know that they existed
 
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L415[09:13:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh my
god, this store is like, everything of my dreams, it even has DEC
stuff
 
L416[09:15:43] <ShadowKatStudios> It has
Sun stuff :D
 
L417[09:17:19] <ShadowKatStudios> So
Bizzycola, where does one obtain your magic folder?
 
L418[09:17:37] <Bizzycola> it's
uploading slowly
 
L419[09:18:04] <Bizzycola> it may only be
8mb but it is uploading at somewhere between 1 an 8 kb/s :p
 
L420[09:18:25] <Bizzycola> but soon, you
can convert!
 
L421[09:18:52] <Bizzycola> I'll give
it to asie, maybe he can create a linux version of it. I could but
I'm lazy and I'd have to download the linux binarys for
ffmpeg and sox :p
 
L422[09:19:59] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
 
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L424[09:20:28] <Bizzycola> hehe :p
 
L425[09:20:35] <Bizzycola> Look, there he
is :p
 
L426[09:20:42] <Bizzycola> >:D
 
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L428[09:21:51] <Bizzycola> still has like
8 minutes left lol
 
L429[09:22:00] <ShadowKatStudios>
Hah
 
L430[09:22:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Asie, I
managed to stream audio over the OC network!
 
L431[09:22:16] <asie> ShadowKatStudios:
Good job!
 
L432[09:22:18] <Bizzycola> 8mb compressed
isn't bad though considering ffmpeg is like 25
 
L433[09:22:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Timing
is a bit off but...
 
L434[09:22:40] <ShadowKatStudios> that
planet earth-th-th-th t-turns slow-low-low-lowly it's hard to
say-ay-ay-ay
 
L435[09:22:44] <Bizzycola> You'll fix
it :p
 
L436[09:22:54] <Bizzycola> and in 7
minutes you can have the converter and make more songs :D
 
L437[09:22:58] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
 
L438[09:23:13] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
gonna put Aerodynamic on Floppy Drives onto it
 
L439[09:23:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Just
cause
 
L440[09:23:21] <Bizzycola> :p
 
L441[09:25:10] <ShadowKatStudios>
It'd be nice to be able to edit the tape while it was playing,
but alas, the drive only has one r/w head pair
 
L442[09:25:23] <asie> ShadowKatStudios:
yeah
 
L443[09:25:32] <asie> you know you can
edit the tape while it is playing, though
 
L444[09:25:39] <asie> it abuses a design
behaviour
 
L445[09:25:47] <asie> you see, the read
head reads 1024 bytes every 250ms
 
L446[09:25:50] <asie> it does nothing for
the rest of the time
 
L447[09:25:52] <asie> but computers tick
at 50ms
 
L448[09:25:57] *
ShadowKatStudios wonders about writing one byte at a
time 
L449[09:25:58] <asie> essentially,
.play(), wait 2 ticks
 
L450[09:26:07] <asie> write 1024 bytes,
seek back -1024
 
L451[09:26:11] <asie> it will play those
1024 bytes
 
L452[09:26:13] <asie> then seek back -1024
again
 
L453[09:26:18] <asie> it will play those
1024 bytes again
 
L454[09:26:23] <asie> and you can make a
cheaty 1KB buffer like that
 
L455[09:26:58] <dangranos> :O
 
L456[09:29:37] <ShadowKatStudios> 1k =
0.25s?
 
L458[09:29:43] <Bizzycola> Have fun
:p
 
L459[09:29:54] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
 
L460[09:29:58] <Bizzycola> I'll
create a linux copy of it later so everyone can has their music in
Computronics!
 
L461[09:30:18] <Bizzycola> Should work
with any audio file ffmpeg will accept as input. Which I asume is
just about any audio file. Usage instructions included :p
 
L462[09:30:38] <Bizzycola> but basically
just make sure java is in your path variable, cd to it in the
command prompt and type 'converter myfile.mp3' :p
 
L463[09:30:44] <Bizzycola> (or ogg, or
what ever)
 
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L466[09:35:24] <Gopher> sheesh. this
simple cli git repo downloader was supposed to be a quickie
project. Ended up having to write a base64 decoder.
 
L467[09:36:00] <Gopher> but... it seems to
be working now
 
L468[09:37:48] <Azelk_> Bizzycola:
What's the difference between that converter and
wabbitoe.jar
 
L469[09:38:11] <Bizzycola> the fact that I
don't know what wbbitoe is? :p
 
L470[09:38:40] <Bizzycola> whats it
do?
 
L472[09:39:05] <Azelk_> It converts WAV to
DFWPM
 
L473[09:39:35] <Bizzycola> mine converts
any audio file you put into the wav, then wav to dfpwm :p
 
L474[09:39:40] <Azelk_> oh
 
L475[09:39:57] <Bizzycola> or any audio
file ffmpeg will take as an input but I assumed that was just about
any :p
 
L476[09:41:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
Convverting :D
 
L477[09:42:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Outputs
to audio?
 
L478[09:42:33] <Bizzycola> yea
 
L479[09:42:42] <Bizzycola> just write the
contents of 'audio' to your tape :p
 
L480[09:43:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay,
cool
 
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L482[09:45:04] <Azelk_> Is this a really
high compression format?
 
L483[09:45:09] <Azelk_> It sounds like a
50s radio.
 
L484[09:45:30] <Bizzycola> it
 
L485[09:45:37] <Bizzycola> is like 8 bit
or something :p
 
L486[09:45:48] <Bizzycola> the audio that
comes out is generally under 1mb
 
L487[09:46:14] <ShadowKatStudios> It works
:D
 
L488[09:46:29] <Bizzycola> awesome
:D
 
L489[09:46:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Playing
Aerodynamic using a cassete tape player
 
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L491[09:46:51] <Azelk_> Is the audio
format public?
 
L492[09:46:54] <Azelk_> the
structure
 
L493[09:47:26] <Bizzycola> DFPWM is open
source
 
L495[09:47:49] <ShadowKatStudios> 44% used
with both fireflies and Aerodynamic
 
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L498[09:48:19] <ShadowKatStudios> What
else should I put on it?
 
L500[09:48:39] <Bizzycola> hello
 
L501[09:48:41] <Bizzycola> Iunno :p
 
L502[09:48:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Hai
din
 
L503[09:48:52] <Din> hows it going?
 
L504[09:48:56] <ShadowKatStudios>
We're putting songs onto cassette tapes :D
 
L505[09:49:04] <Din> :O wat
 
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L507[09:49:09] <ShadowKatStudios>
We've done Fireflies and Aerodynamic so far
 
L508[09:49:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
Suggestions?
 
L509[09:49:18] <Din> California 37ž
 
L510[09:51:12] *
ShadowKatStudios wonders how this will sound 
L511[09:51:56] <ShadowKatStudios> But
sure, I'll convert it
 
L512[09:52:08] <Din> How do you convert
it?
 
L514[09:52:22] <Din> nice
 
L515[09:52:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Bizzy
made a package
 
L516[09:52:31] <Din> I WAS LOOKING FOR
SOME HEAVEN
 
L518[09:52:48] <Din> California 37 took me
right to heaven's door
 
L519[09:53:13] ***
Michiyo is now known as Michiyo[Off] 
L520[09:58:21] <ShadowKatStudios>
Uploading now
 
L522[10:00:06] ***
tgame14 is now known as tgame14|afk 
L523[10:00:07] <Din> I don't have a
tape :/
 
L524[10:00:30] <Din> I thought you guys
made tapes in OC
 
L525[10:00:37] <Din> and you can play
music ingame
 
L526[10:00:39] <Bizzycola> we aree
 
L527[10:00:44] <ShadowKatStudios>
It's asie's expansion
 
L528[10:00:58] <Bizzycola> write that to
an oc computronics tape :p
 
L529[10:01:00]
⇨ Joins: Biohazard
(Biohazard@biohazard.tropicraft.net) 
L530[10:01:23] <ShadowKatStudios> I also
have Aerodynamic by Daft Punk played on Floppy Drives, Fireflies by
Owl City and She's a Genius by Jet
 
L531[10:01:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I should
convert some of my chiptune
 
L532[10:02:07] ⇦
Quits: ^v (~pingbot@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) (Ping
timeout: 194 seconds) 
L533[10:05:45] <ShadowKatStudios> When you
load an audio file it sounds like it's roaring
 
L534[10:06:57] <Din> Will it work on
servers?
 
L535[10:07:11] <Bizzycola> yea
 
L536[10:07:24] <Din> haha
 
L537[10:07:34] <Din> Link me to that
converter please :D
 
L538[10:07:38] <Din> Also, how to use
it
 
L539[10:07:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Me and
WIred are running a server iwth Computronics
 
L542[10:09:13] <Din> how many mods?
 
L543[10:10:00] <Din> Teh's
mods?
 
L544[10:10:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Adds
some cool misc stuff, like a flying enchant
 
L545[10:10:40] ***
Din is now known as |Din| 
L546[10:10:42] <|Din|> cool
 
L548[10:11:09] <|Din|> very little
mods
 
L549[10:11:23] <|Din|> brb, gotta
ommnomnomnom
 
L550[10:11:29] ***
tgame14|afk is now known as tgame14 
L551[10:11:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Minimal
is the idea, if there's an issue we want to be able to fix it
quickly rather than spend days
 
L552[10:15:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Next:
Seventeen by Jet, followed by Blossom and Blood by Midnight
Oil
 
L553[10:16:13] <|Din|> Why not get S@ngar
to add mp3 support to oc?
 
L554[10:16:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
That'd be too easy
 
L555[10:16:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Besides,
then you don't need cassette tapes, and that's no
fun
 
L556[10:16:52] <|Din|> CDs
 
L557[10:16:57] <|Din|> Or add
CraftTunes
 
L558[10:17:16] <ShadowKatStudios> I like
tapes
 
L559[10:17:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Besides,
you can run a turing machine on a tape
 
L560[10:17:36] <|Din|> lol
 
L561[10:17:51] <|Din|> i wanna talk to
somebody
 
L562[10:18:03] <|Din|> But I annoyed my
female friend ebough today
 
L563[10:18:06]
⇨ Joins: asie
(~textual@apn-5-60-222-154.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) 
L564[10:18:26] <|Din|> hey ashka
 
L565[10:18:29] <|Din|> asie *
 
L566[10:18:35] <|Din|> Damn
autocomplete
 
L567[10:18:47] *
ShadowKatStudios has created a mixtape 
L568[10:18:55] <Gopher> sks: er, yeah...
an infinite tape XD
 
L569[10:19:01] <|Din|> Is that server of
yours whitelisted?
 
L570[10:19:34] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nope
 
L571[10:19:43] <|Din|> :O
 
L572[10:20:02] <|Din|> That's
brave
 
L573[10:20:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Gopher,
you just wrap longer than the tape to 0 and - numbers to the max
length
 
L574[10:20:31] <ShadowKatStudios> I
personally woulda liked whitelisted, but wired's hosting, not
me
 
L575[10:20:49] ⇦
Quits: asie (~textual@apn-5-60-222-154.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) (Read
error: Connection reset by peer) 
L576[10:20:50] <|Din|> I find non
whitelisted servers a bit scary
 
L577[10:20:56] ⇦
Parts: Cyborg (~nick1@188.113.81.176) (WeeChat
0.4.4-dev)) 
L578[10:20:58] <ShadowKatStudios> It has
protection and stuff
 
L579[10:21:02] <|Din|> Still
 
L580[10:21:16] <|Din|> you have a house on
it?
 
L581[10:21:23] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yep
 
L582[10:21:32] <|Din|> Can I live with
you? I'll only listen to tapes
 
L583[10:21:42] <ShadowKatStudios> :P Once
I get tapes
 
L584[10:21:48] <ShadowKatStudios>
I've been messing with them in SSP
 
L585[10:21:54] <|Din|> aha
 
L586[10:22:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Still,
the pack has tapes
 
L587[10:22:05] <|Din|> Do they take much
knowledge to make in creative?
 
L588[10:22:16] *
|Din| hasn't played with OC alot. 
L589[10:22:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Not
really
 
L590[10:22:21] <|Din|> I just have oc for
cool loks
 
L591[10:22:23] <|Din|> looks*
 
L592[10:23:03] <Gopher> sks: pretty sure
the definition of turing machine includes the infinite length tape
bit
 
L593[10:23:39] <|Din|> good guy wired:
makes a pack so I don't have to download oc
 
L594[10:24:02] <Gopher> this is why when
they describe, i.e., brainfuck as turing complete, they always add
the bit about "privided unbounded memory" or something
like that.
 
L595[10:25:01]
⇨ Joins: ^v
(~pingbot@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 
L596[10:25:26] <ShadowKatStudios> Din, I
made most of the pack, just sayin. Not the part with OC (though I
did update it) but most of it.
 
L597[10:25:45] <|Din|> thanks
ShadowKatStudios
 
L598[10:25:51] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
 
L599[10:28:56] <Kenny> Gopher, do you know
anything about writing a mod?
 
L600[10:29:26] <Gopher> I've done CC
addons and a few very minor (unreleased) things, but I'm
hardly an expert. Why?
 
L601[10:29:42] <Kenny> i need tol figure
out how to do reflection
 
L602[10:30:23] <Gopher> ah. Not something
I've done much of, really. I think OpenPeripherals does a good
bit of reflection, if example code is helpful?
 
L604[10:31:01] <Kenny> would be if i knew
anything about reflection hehe
 
L605[10:32:35] <Gopher> in a nutshell,
it's digging out and using the metadata about classes and
functions and get at things you otherwise couldn't (and,
often, shouldn't).
 
L606[10:33:33] <Kenny> right, meaning
accessing private variables/functions in base classes that are
declared private but which you need to make public
 
L607[10:34:15] <Gopher> indeed. Also just
in general accessing and using code that was not meant to be used
externally, and almost by definition is undocumented, with only
experimentation to tell you what's going on.
 
L608[10:34:57] <Kenny> well, time to do
some experimenting then *evil laugh*
 
L609[10:35:02] <|Din|> 2 seconds on the
server ShadowKatStudios . I fell in a hole
 
L610[10:35:20] <ShadowKatStudios>
Really?
 
L611[10:35:24] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
I'll come on
 
L612[10:35:25] <|Din|> haha yea
 
L613[10:35:26] <Gopher> best to spend a
fair bit of time reviewing the decompiled source before using
classes/functions via reflection.
 
L614[10:35:27] <|Din|> No need
 
L615[10:35:33] <|Din|> Imma test tapes in
sp
 
L616[10:36:05] ***
|Din| is now known as Din 
L617[10:36:34] <ShadowKatStudios> D: Such
a nice server, but even at $56 I can't afford it
 
L618[10:37:42] <Din> 56$?
 
L619[10:37:47] <ShadowKatStudios>
She's a Genius sounds like it's played on a rubber
band
 
L620[10:38:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Yeah,
it's an ancient Sun machine
 
L621[10:38:06] <Din> How do I do
this?
 
L622[10:38:12] <Din> (how do I get tapes
and stuff)
 
L623[10:38:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Do you
have an OC computer?
 
L624[10:38:35] <Din> I need it?
 
L625[10:38:37] <Din> Okay
 
L626[10:38:42] <Din> one second
 
L627[10:38:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Depends,
do you intend to use the tapes?
 
L628[10:38:56] <Din> I want to listen to
them
 
L629[10:39:01] <Din> Put music on and
jam
 
L630[10:39:24] <Din> Do computers need
power in this pack
 
L631[10:39:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yeah
 
L632[10:40:04] <Din> wwwwwwoah
 
L633[10:40:12] <Din> 4mb oh hd
space?!
 
L634[10:40:17] <Din> 4 Full MB?!
 
L635[10:40:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Massive
stuff.
 
L636[10:41:12] <ShadowKatStudios> With a
tape, you can store just under 8
 
L637[10:41:45] <Din> hIGH RES
graphics
 
L638[10:42:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Yep,
160*50 is pretty damn high res
 
L639[10:42:23] <ShadowKatStudios>
That's 8000 cells
 
L640[10:43:39] <Din> I want 320 x 240 !
:D
 
L641[10:43:46] <Din> ?c 320*240
 
L642[10:43:47] <SirEnderBot> I'm
sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
 
L643[10:44:38] <Din> I don't suppouse
there's cheaty creative power source?
 
L644[10:44:40] <ShadowKatStudios> My music
collection on my HDD is a whopping 2.4333 MB
 
L645[10:44:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Din,
just put a Stirling Engine with a stack of coal blocks and a
lever
 
L646[10:45:47] <Din> woo!
 
L647[10:46:20] <Gopher> Dunno what mod
pack yer using but I plonk a TE creative redstone cell next to mine
in creative
 
L648[10:46:43] <ShadowKatStudios>
There's no TE, takes too long to update
 
L649[10:47:05] <Din> Okay, I have a
lever
 
L650[10:47:06] <Gopher> yah, I'm, for
reasons not entirely clear even to me, still running forge in
1.6.4
 
L651[10:47:14] <Din> A working pc =
check
 
L652[10:47:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay,
put a tape drive next to it
 
L653[10:47:58] <Din> Done
 
L654[10:48:08] <Kenny> ok, fellas, listen
up
 
L655[10:48:26] <Kenny> if there is no
power source available an OC computer will run without power
 
L656[10:48:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Except
there is so...
 
L657[10:48:51] <ShadowKatStudios> :P
 
L658[10:48:52] <Kenny> meaning if you
don't have any mod that supplies power in the pack the
computer will run on it's own
 
L659[10:49:02] <Din> Shadow, I have a tape
drive
 
L660[10:49:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay,
computer running?
 
L662[10:49:19] <ShadowKatStudios>
You'll need an internet card
 
L663[10:49:25] <Din> check
 
L664[10:50:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Go into
your HDD/FDD's mount point
 
L665[10:50:20] <Din> ehhm
 
L666[10:50:25] <Din> cd HDD?
 
L667[10:50:40] <SpiritedDusty> its in
/mnt
 
L668[10:50:52] <ShadowKatStudios> cd
/mnt/<first 3 letters of HDD UUID>
 
L669[10:51:10] <Din> *slowly fades
away*
 
L670[10:51:27] <Din> This is why I
don't use computer mods
 
L671[10:51:31] <SpiritedDusty> :P
 
L672[10:51:39] <ShadowKatStudios> If you
hover over the HDD item, it has a string of numbers and letters
under it
 
L675[10:52:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Take the
first 3 of those, and do cd /mnt/<first 3 letters>
 
L676[10:52:18] <Din> done
 
L678[10:52:47] <ShadowKatStudios>
Shift-insert is paste btw
 
L679[10:52:58] <Din> whats the insert
key?
 
L680[10:53:13] <ShadowKatStudios>
It's called insert
 
L681[10:53:26] <Din> *scopes the
keyboard*
 
L682[10:53:27] <ShadowKatStudios> The key
generally says insert
 
L683[10:53:29] <Din> Oh, there it is
 
L684[10:53:45] <Din> okeo, now?
 
L685[10:53:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Did it
download?
 
L687[10:54:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay,
type lua
 
L688[10:54:23] <Din> done
 
L689[10:54:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Tape in
the tape drive?
 
L690[10:54:55] <Din> syntax error near
drive
 
L691[10:55:05] <Din> yes.
 
L692[10:55:58] <Din> now I do magic ,
right?
 
L693[10:56:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay,
type fObj =
io.open("/mnt/c64/california37","rb") a =
fObj:read("*a") fObj:close()
 
L694[10:56:31] <Din> scary sound
 
L695[10:56:41] <Din> my screen is
black
 
L696[10:56:58] <ShadowKatStudios> You
mighta run outta power, is the computer still on? xD
 
L697[10:57:27] <Din> more engines!
 
L698[10:57:49] <Din> not enough
memory
 
L699[10:57:55] <ShadowKatStudios> I once
only just made enough power to keep the computer cluster I used
running, and if a HDD read lasted more than a second or so the
whole cluster would crash
 
L700[10:57:59] <dangranos> uh
 
L701[10:58:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Never
mind that, do component.tape_drive.write(a)
 
L702[10:58:33] <Din> done
 
L703[10:58:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay,
now rewind the tape and then play it
 
L704[10:59:12] <ShadowKatStudios>
I'll one day make a program to download music directly to a
tape.
 
L705[10:59:12] <Din> do i need music to
100%
 
L706[10:59:17] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nah
 
L707[10:59:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Sound
though
 
L708[10:59:23] <Din> I hear static
 
L711[10:59:36] <dangranos> ?
 
L712[10:59:45] <Din> well that's a
great song ._.
 
L713[11:00:05] <ShadowKatStudios> It opens
if in mode fb?
 
L714[11:00:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh cool,
it's 3 AM
 
L715[11:00:24] <Din> shadow, how do I know
it saved the song to the tape?
 
L716[11:00:30] <dangranos> din, this is my
program to write to tape
 
L717[11:00:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Did you
rewind?
 
L719[11:00:40] <Din> I hear static
 
L720[11:00:52] <Din> dangranos, is it hard
to use?
 
L721[11:00:56] <dangranos> no
 
L722[11:01:04] <Din> How do I install
it
 
L723[11:01:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay, do
pastebin get r0kpQxas writetape
 
L724[11:01:38] <dangranos> and then
"writetape california37"
 
L725[11:01:56] <Din> file not found
 
L727[11:02:06] <dangranos> ?
 
L728[11:02:19] <Din> failed opening file
not found
 
L729[11:02:24] <Din> when doing pastebin
get
 
L730[11:02:26] <dangranos> do you have
internet card on computer?
 
L732[11:02:56] <dangranos> what about
running just "pastebin"?
 
L733[11:03:07] <Din> lists me the
usage
 
L734[11:03:40] <ShadowKatStudios> I want a
server with more slots :(
 
L735[11:04:01] <Din> stupid oc computer!
stop being broken
 
L736[11:05:02] <Din> *tries turning it off
and on *
 
L738[11:05:39] <Din> not found
 
L739[11:05:54] <dangranos> wget not
found?
 
L740[11:06:03] <Din> failed opening file
not found
 
L741[11:06:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Are you
in your hdd folder?
 
L742[11:06:57] <dangranos> ^]
 
L743[11:07:26] <Din> of
couuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurse.
 
L744[11:07:44] <Din> mnt/xxx?
 
L745[11:08:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
Yep
 
L746[11:08:14] <Gopher> was that a yes or
no on the internet card question?
 
L748[11:09:03] <Din> okay, downloadded
tape program
 
L749[11:09:27] <dangranos> yay
 
L751[11:10:06] <ShadowKatStudios> My god
this is fragmented
 
L752[11:10:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Now I
know what listening to a filesystem would be like
 
L753[11:10:26] ⇦
Quits: prassel|off (~Prassel@5.231.51.109) (Ping timeout: 186
seconds) 
L754[11:10:30] <Gopher> use: gitrepo
<repo> [<targetDir>] (default target is
/tmp/<repo>)
 
L755[11:10:42] <Din> dangranos,
Issue
 
L756[11:11:11] <Din> /lib/filesystem/lua
bad argument #2 when doing taper california37
 
L757[11:11:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Knew
it!
 
L758[11:11:55] <ShadowKatStudios> It opens
in fb and I think it was meant to open in rb
 
L759[11:12:04] <Gopher> code is dwtfyw, if
anyone has more elabore plans for github programs they're free
to rip it whole or in part (I know ping does, but he not here). It
includes an unused base-64 decoder that works on github's
encoded file data that might be useful, as well as a hackish but so
far effective json converter.
 
L760[11:12:06] <Din> translate to human
please
 
L761[11:12:31] <ShadowKatStudios> Line
20
 
L762[11:12:35] <ShadowKatStudios> 24
 
L763[11:12:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Do edit
taper
 
L764[11:12:54] <Din> done
 
L765[11:12:59] <Gopher> mode
"fb?" that's invalid, right? XD
 
L766[11:13:01] <ShadowKatStudios> And to
me this is a more natural language
 
L767[11:13:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay, go
down to line 24
 
L768[11:13:13] <Din> done
 
L769[11:13:25] <ShadowKatStudios> See the
part that says "fb" ?
 
L770[11:13:31]
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L772[11:13:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Change
it to "rb"
 
L773[11:13:38] <Din> change it to
facebook?
 
L774[11:13:40] <Din> Oh, rb
 
L775[11:13:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Change
it from facebook actually
 
L776[11:14:01] <Din> That's it?
 
L777[11:14:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Then hit
Control-s
 
L778[11:14:19] <Din> i did
 
L779[11:14:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Then hit
control-w
 
L780[11:14:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Then the
program should work
 
L781[11:14:46] <Din> okay
 
L782[11:15:06] <Din> oh look, a percentage
counter
 
L783[11:15:18] <Din> It works
 
L784[11:15:23] <Din> And sounds
horrible
 
L785[11:15:48] <ShadowKatStudios> The
drive noises?
 
L786[11:15:59] <Din> I heard music for a
split second
 
L787[11:16:04] <Din> and it became
static
 
L788[11:16:09] <Din> Got songs that
work?
 
L789[11:16:09] <ShadowKatStudios>
Rewind
 
L790[11:16:17] <Din> i rewinded
 
L791[11:16:17] <dangranos> whoops
 
L792[11:16:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Then
play :P
 
L793[11:16:32] <Din> I played
 
L794[11:16:40] <dangranos> and?
 
L795[11:16:42] <Din> Sounds
horrifing
 
L796[11:16:48] <dangranos> ...
 
L797[11:16:54] <dangranos> it
shouldnt
 
L798[11:17:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Uhm, it
could be in the headers
 
L799[11:17:11] <dangranos> ?
 
L800[11:17:15] <Din> The song works
 
L801[11:17:19] <Din> It just sounds
horrible
 
L802[11:17:23] <dangranos> oh
 
L803[11:17:25] <Din> Oh, ShadowKatStudios
got the wrong song
 
L804[11:17:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Does the
header end on an odd or even character?
 
L805[11:18:05] <ShadowKatStudios>
What's the song?
 
L806[11:18:26] <Din> Idk, it isn't
california 37
 
L807[11:18:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Does it
have words?
 
L809[11:18:50] <Din> idk , i turned it
off, i hate it ^^
 
L810[11:18:55] <Din> Cna you teach me the
converter?
 
L811[11:19:07] <ShadowKatStudios> From
that reaction, I assume it's She's a Genius
 
L813[11:19:29] <Din> i downloaded it
 
L814[11:19:43] <ShadowKatStudios> It has
usage instructions
 
L815[11:19:43] ***
jesusthekiller is now known as jesustk_off 
L816[11:19:51] <Din> okay, mp3 songs
okay?
 
L817[11:20:00] <dangranos> any
 
L818[11:20:36] <ShadowKatStudios> ... 3
AM... I should work on building my webserver
 
L819[11:20:37] <Din> Well there goes my
day
 
L820[11:20:46] <Din> thanks guys
 
L821[11:20:48] ***
jesustk_off is now known as jesusthekiller 
L822[11:20:50] <ShadowKatStudios> 3:20
actually
 
L823[11:20:55] <dangranos> 0:20 here
 
L824[11:21:00] <Din> 18:20 here
 
L825[11:21:35] <dangranos> i live in
russia, siberia
 
L826[11:21:50] <jesusthekiller> You guys
know about /ctcp TIME? T.T
 
L827[11:22:51] <dangranos> :\
 
L828[11:23:17]
⇨ Joins: maximus
(~max@74.sub-70-199-135.myvzw.com) 
L829[11:25:00] ***
SuPeRMiNoR2|Away is now known as SuPeRMiNoR2 
L830[11:25:40] <Din> the truck'
 
L831[11:25:45] <Din> "audio"
file is empty
 
L832[11:25:47] <Din> 0 bytes
 
L833[11:30:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Power
supply in :D
 
L834[11:31:59] <dangranos> there is no
server with OC except wired's server?
 
L835[11:34:12] <Gopher> wide-spread
adoption of OC has yet to pick up much steam, it seems.
 
L836[11:39:49] <Din> ShadowKatStudios,
sorry fr pinging but what kind of format does oc use for
tapes?
 
L837[11:40:05] <Kenny> it
doesn't
 
L838[11:40:16] <dangranos> computronics
does
 
L839[11:40:23] <Kenny> that's
computronics
 
L840[11:40:24] <Din> what does
computronics use?
 
L841[11:40:40] <dangranos> try to look in
sources
 
L842[11:40:41] <Kenny> dpwpm?
 
L844[11:41:02] <dangranos> its audio
 
L845[11:41:11] <Din> Screw it
 
L846[11:41:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Looks
like my power supplu is dead D:
 
L847[11:41:17] <Din> who made that
converter again?
 
L848[11:41:24] <dangranos> kat
 
L849[11:41:37] <dangranos> iirc
 
L850[11:41:42] <Din> it's not working
for me
 
L851[11:41:45] <Din> I get an empty audio
file
 
L852[11:42:01] <ShadowKatStudios> It
wasn't me
 
L853[11:42:09] <ShadowKatStudios> It was
Bizzy cola
 
L854[11:42:18] <dangranos> din, you can
try to use freeac and dfpwm converter
 
L855[11:42:50] <Din> hm, googling
 
L857[11:43:00] <dangranos> wav to
dfpwm
 
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L861[11:43:38] <Din> alright
 
L862[11:43:44] <Kenny> it's DFWPM
format
 
L863[11:43:48] <Din> So freeac converts
wav to this magic thing?
 
L864[11:43:55] <dangranos> no
 
L865[11:44:01] <dangranos> wabbitoe
does
 
L866[11:44:14] <dangranos> freeac converts
mp3 and other to wav
 
L867[11:44:19] <Din> oh okay
 
L868[11:44:19] <dangranos> and other if
you want
 
L869[11:44:38] *
Kenny uses audacity 
L870[11:45:11] <Din> eeeeeew
 
L871[11:45:24] <Din> fre:ac automaticaly
set it's language to bosnian
 
L872[11:45:29] *
Din hates bosnian 
L873[11:45:37] *
ShadowKatStudios uses ffmpeg 
L874[11:46:45] <Din> california 37 took me
right to heavens door!
 
L875[11:47:26] <ShadowKatStudios>
'You talk of times of peace for all and then prepare for
war' Awesome song :D
 
L876[11:49:10] <Din> Oh my
 
L877[11:49:18] <Din> Ads on google?!
 
L878[11:49:24] <Din> Time for adblock
plus
 
L879[11:49:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Ads have
always been on google
 
L880[11:49:49] <Din> never noticed
them
 
L881[11:50:36] <Din> How do I make a
dropbox download link?
 
L883[11:50:39] <dangranos> i cant browse
internet without adblock
 
L885[11:50:57] <dangranos> din
 
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L887[11:51:00] <Din> dangranos, I have
adblock but I had it disabled on google
 
L888[11:55:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Almost 4
AM
 
L889[11:57:06] <ShadowKatStudios> I refuse
to be tired!
 
L890[11:57:16] <Din> go sleep D:
 
L891[11:57:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Sleep is
for the weak
 
L892[12:01:12] <dangranos> i can setup
server, if someone want
 
L893[12:01:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Me and
Wired have a server with OC and Computronics running
 
L894[12:02:03] <dangranos> its down
 
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L897[12:02:43] <ShadowKatStudios> The
other server has issues apparently
 
L898[12:04:42] <ShadowKatStudios> I should
convert some Savage Garden
 
L899[12:05:08] <dangranos> Why no toxic
compiled for windows :(
 
L900[12:05:40] <dangranos> kat, you have
another server?
 
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L902[12:06:25] <ShadowKatStudios>
It's in that pack
 
L903[12:06:32] <ShadowKatStudios> The one
that works
 
L904[12:06:36] <dangranos> its down
 
L905[12:06:43] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
on it.
 
L906[12:06:46] <dangranos> ...
 
L907[12:07:05] <dangranos> hmm
 
L908[12:07:34] <dangranos> connection
refused: connect
 
L909[12:08:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Did you
use the pack I just posted?
 
L910[12:08:13] <dangranos> >_<
 
L911[12:08:31] <dangranos> i am
idiot
 
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L913[12:08:53] <bolens1112> Quick
question, how does one pick up a block using a robot using a wrench
ie. pick up a battblock?
 
L914[12:09:27] <bolens1112> I tried
robot.use() but no luck. robot.use(sneaky) did not do it either. I
gave him a wrench.
 
L915[12:09:45] <dangranos> another port
>_<
 
L916[12:09:50] <dangranos> oh
 
L917[12:10:12] <Din> how do I name my
tape?
 
L918[12:10:37] <dangranos> song
name?
 
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L921[12:12:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Huh, I
might even fit all these songs onto one 32-minute tape
 
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L923[12:12:49] *
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L924[12:13:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Internet
being nasty?
 
L925[12:13:55] <Gopher> indeed.
 
L926[12:14:55] <dangranos> kat, what is
you MC nickname?
 
L927[12:15:02] <ShadowKatStudios>
mrminer84403
 
L928[12:18:46] <bolens1112> Nevermind I
think I found a workaround.
 
L929[12:19:13] <Gopher> did you not get my
answer before I disco'd, bolens1112?
 
L930[12:19:30] <Gopher> first arg is side,
2nd is sneaky, robot.use(nil,true) should work?
 
L931[12:19:41] <Gopher> works with TE
anyway
 
L933[12:21:56] <Din> Could someone make an
addon to add a 100MB hard drive'
 
L934[12:22:03] <Gopher> lol
 
L935[12:22:03] <Din> I want podcasts
 
L936[12:25:30] <bolens1112> oh i did not
catch that :) I was trying it with ender io
 
L937[12:25:37] <bolens1112> It did not
seem to work?
 
L938[12:26:31] <bolens1112> let me try it
with the args you gave tho.
 
L939[12:27:02] <bolens1112> Gopher:
thanks!
 
L940[12:27:15] <Gopher> np, man :)
 
L941[12:29:15] <bolens1112> Gopher:
robot.use(nil,true) seems to work but he does not pick it up
directly into his inventory, no biggy though I can have him suck it
up.
 
L942[12:29:32] <Gopher> O_o that's
odd, he does with TE cells
 
L943[12:29:55] <bolens1112> it was a
energy cube from mekanism
 
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L945[12:31:25] <Gopher> I'd think
that means it does something odd when dropping after being
wrenched, but dunno for sure
 
L946[12:33:44] <bolens1112> Could be but
that is just fine. He can pick it up after. I also found that just
plain old pickaxe on the energy cube picks it and does not loose
energy up so I am not worried.
 
L947[12:34:19] <Gopher> ah, cool. I know
that's not true of all mods, so yer lucky there, heh
 
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L949[12:34:21] <Kenny> \o
 
L950[12:34:22]
zsh sets mode: +o on Ir7_o 
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L952[12:35:22] <Gopher> hi, Ir7_o
 
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L954[12:50:55] <ShadowKatStudios>
It's ten to 5 in the morning, I'm off o/
 
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L956[12:54:05] <Gopher> o/
 
L957[13:06:34] <maximus> are there any
good resources to start learning lua for OC for someone who has
very little programming experience?
 
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L959[13:15:41] <Gopher> PIL (programming
in lua) is the usual book, which is available free online, for
introductory lua
 
L960[13:16:06] <Gopher> at least,
that's what I always see people recommend.
 
L961[13:19:12] <maximus> ok thanks
Gopher
 
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L964[13:34:05] <Kenny> Din, the hard drive
sizes are configurable
 
L965[13:34:27] <Kenny> so is the
memory
 
L966[13:42:04] <dangranos> bye
 
L967[13:42:08] <dangranos> night :(
 
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L979[14:39:24] <notPing> this tablet
suuuux
 
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L981[14:40:15] <Gopher> hey, ping. didja
see what I did?
 
L982[14:40:32] <ping> i gave up on that
pos tablet
 
L983[14:40:36] <ping> Gopher, what did you
do?
 
L985[14:41:10] <Gopher> I even wrote an
ultimately unnecessary base64 decoder compatible with git's
encoded format
 
L986[14:41:36] <Gopher> I *think* with the
right api requests you can get difs in base64 which could be
decoded and displayed?
 
L988[14:41:54] <^v> ping, a faster version
of base64 Written in Lua by infinikiller64 2.21KB
 
L989[14:42:04] <ping> i made that awhile
ago
 
L990[14:42:21] <ping> its rly fast
 
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L993[14:43:19] <ping> because math
\o/
 
L994[14:43:36] <ping> also, TYKUHN2 was
using my name
 
L995[14:44:18] <Gopher> O_o I'm
tempted to run speed comparisons, that doesn't /look/ fast to
me O_o
 
L996[14:44:55] <ping> all the b64 i found
used the slow base conversion function
 
L997[14:45:28] <Gopher> ah. Well, faster
than that, definitely. I used the bit32 api, so less (and cheaper,
but that's less important in lua) operations.
 
L998[14:45:59] <Gopher> actually, under
the hood they may not be cheaper, since lua doesn't, in fact,
have ints
 
L999[14:46:14] <ping> the tob64 function
processes 4 chars at a time, which is why it might seem
bloated
 
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L1001[14:46:32] <Gopher> yeah, I see
that.
 
L1002[14:46:56] <Gopher> I'm not
sure which would be faster, honestly. Could go either way.
 
L1003[14:47:01] <ping> hmm, i could
easaly convert the math.floor(x/2^y) to bit.brshift(x,y)
 
L1004[14:48:00] <Gopher> meh, I
don't care enough to actually set up comparison tests XD
 
L1005[14:48:12] <ping> i dont think it
would be faster to do something similar with x*(2^y)
 
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L1007[14:48:55] <Gopher> could be
bit32.lshift(x,y) but I don't see any reason to think
that'd be significantly faster or slower on it's
own
 
L1008[14:49:14] <ping> it would be
slower
 
L1009[14:49:25] <ping> because it would
call a function
 
L1010[14:49:29] <Gopher> would it?
 
L1011[14:49:36] <ping> yeah
 
L1012[14:49:57] <Gopher> I thought
operators in lua were function calls, too.
 
L1013[14:50:30] <ping> it compiles down
into the add operator
 
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L1018[14:52:35] <Gopher> hmm. Checked and
you are correct.
 
L1019[14:52:55] <Gopher> bshift version
takes 50% longer.
 
L1020[14:53:31] <Gopher> mind you,
repeating both plus a function call overhead per iteration in my
timing method, we're talking about .2 seconds vs .29 secodns
for 1,000,000 repetitions XD
 
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L1024[14:57:04] <ping> Gopher, never
enough speed
 
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L1026[14:57:46] <Gopher> anyway, my point
was, I've made gitrepo, but have no further plans for git
integration. So carry on with your git projects if you wish
XD
 
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L1028[14:58:17] <Gopher> I'm
finishing up listboxes and imlpementing a standard save/load
dialog.
 
L1029[14:59:25] <ping> hmm
 
L1030[14:59:34] <Gopher> When finished,
will be simply filename = gml.filePicker("save")
 
L1031[14:59:35] <ping> i dont think unb64
is fast enough
 
L1032[14:59:37] <ping> it uses a
table
 
L1033[15:00:17] <ping> using some ASCII
table math sorcery i can make it faster
 
L1034[15:01:05] <ping> b64 wtf
 
L1035[15:01:15] <Gopher> or
filename=gml.filePicker("load"). Optional 2nd arg is the
path to open to, and possibly a suggested filename, optional 3rd is
one or more extensions to filter the list to/require on the
result.
 
L1036[15:01:37] <ping> base64's
number order is terrible
 
L1037[15:02:02] <Kenny> Gopher when using
the list box, how would i reference a choice in the list?
 
L1038[15:02:58] <Gopher> kenny,
that's one of the things I'm cleaning up/adding in the
version I'm working on, on the repo right now, you have to use
undocumented features, just a sec
 
L1039[15:03:11] <Kenny> ok
 
L1040[15:03:31] <Kenny> i can hold.
cooking dinner right now any way :P
 
L1041[15:03:34] <Gopher>
listBox.selectedLabel (which I have since renamed, but that's
what's in the repo) is the index into the list of the selected
item
 
L1042[15:03:55] <Gopher> so
listBox.list[listBox.selectedLabel] would be the text of the
selected label.
 
L1043[15:03:57] <Kenny> ok, because i was
using a table in the list box
 
L1044[15:04:13] <Gopher> yeah,
listBox.list is that table you passed in
 
L1045[15:04:30] <Gopher> if you have it
as a variable, you can just use that, it doesn't reorder it or
anything
 
L1046[15:04:58] <Gopher> selectedLabel
will be nil if nothing is selected
 
L1047[15:05:03] <Kenny> actually i copied
in whatever you add in the test file and just changed the
'one','two', etc to menulist hehe
 
L1048[15:05:13] <Kenny> add=had
 
L1049[15:05:37] <Gopher> then yeah,
listBox.list is the list :)
 
L1050[15:06:05] <Gopher> Gonna be adding
a listBox.getSelected, already added listBox.select() to change the
selected item, scrolling as needed and redrawing everything
 
L1051[15:06:38] <Gopher> and working on a
function now to update the list itself, which currently requires a
manual redraw and can cause breakage if everything is not just
so
 
L1052[15:06:44] <Kenny> this is what you
had in the test file: local
listBox=gui:addListBox("center",8,16,8,{"one","two","
 
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L1054[15:07:58] <Gopher> yah, I tend to
do that. Anyway, selected item # is listBox.selectedLabel,
listBox.list is the array of items you passed in.
 
L1055[15:08:38] <Kenny> this is lua,
there aren't any arrays, they are called tables :P
 
L1056[15:09:04] <Kenny> couldn't
resist, they pounded that into my head at first hehe
 
L1057[15:09:14] <Gopher> try giving it a
table with non-sequential numeric or non-numeric keys and then tell
me the distinction is moot :P lol
 
L1058[15:09:49] <Kenny> that is exactly
what i passed it hehe
 
L1059[15:10:09] <Kenny> a table of
strings and no numeric key
 
L1060[15:10:30] <Gopher> which lua
pretends for our convenience is an array, and provides sequential
numeric keys for :)
 
L1061[15:10:54] <Gopher> allowing us to
pretend, just for a moment, that it is an array XD
 
L1062[15:11:10] <Kenny> i'm finding
that referencing tables is really not much different that an
array
 
L1063[15:11:30] <Kenny> brb need to stir
food
 
L1064[15:11:35] <Gopher> getting close to
my first planned milestone, already distracted thinking about the
next milestone - a replacement text editor
 
L1065[15:15:07] *
ping slaps Gopher 
L1066[15:15:11] <Gopher> wat?
 
L1067[15:15:18] <ping> hmm, testing
something
 
L1068[15:15:19] <ping> sorry
 
L1069[15:15:25] *
Gopher kicks ping's ass 
L1070[15:16:50] <Kenny> Gopher, take a
lok at my BigRenegade repo. there is an IDE package on there called
luaIDE. i was trying to port it but didn't know enough about
lua or CC to do it
 
L1071[15:17:08] <Gopher> I'm
familiar with LuaIDE, it's pretty slick
 
L1072[15:17:26] <Kenny> i forked it
 
L1074[15:18:29] <Gopher> ide
functionality will be waiting until after milestone 2, there's
enough big stuff requried for ms2 already, but the ultimate plan is
to make something like luaide. Well, actually, the /ultimate/ plan
is to make something /more/ awesome, but that's a long way off
XD
 
L1075[15:19:05] <Gopher> call me strange,
but other people's code is just not fun, so I'm doing
everything from scratch myself :)
 
L1076[15:23:41] <Kenny> my programming
skills are not the best. it's why i usually have to ask for
help....
 
L1077[15:24:05] <Kenny> i was always
better at debugging than actually writing code
 
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L1079[15:26:56] <Kenny> someone installed
a light switch hehe
 
L1080[15:27:03] <ping> ._.
 
L1081[15:27:12] <Kenny> hey alek :)
 
L1082[15:27:40] <ping> This is a good
idea: instead of having light switches, lets just have them take
out the light bulb ._____.
 
L1083[15:28:01] <Kenny> your's burnt
out a long time ago
 
L1084[15:28:07] <Kenny> :P
 
L1085[15:28:35] <ping> yes, i misread
2400V for 240V
 
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L1087[15:28:41] <ping> D: Gopher
 
L1088[15:28:56] <maximus> whats a factor
of 10 among friends
 
L1089[15:29:07] <ping> 100 is a factor of
10
 
L1090[15:29:16] *
ping doesnt understand the question 
L1091[15:29:36] <Kenny> a handful of
friends
 
L1092[15:29:54] <maximus> 2400v to 240v
is only 1 decimal place differnt
 
L1093[15:30:00] <maximus> its a joke
about being close enough
 
L1094[15:30:22] <ping> ah i get it
 
L1095[15:30:26] <Kenny> kind of figured
there was something about it hehe
 
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L1097[15:36:42] <Kenny> dinner time
 
L1098[15:49:43] <Biohazard> ugh
 
L1099[15:49:46] <Biohazard> yaml-cpp,
why
 
L1100[15:49:57] <Biohazard> this sigsegv
doesnt make any sense at all
 
L1101[15:52:40] <Biohazard> this one damn
statement. if i place it somewhere i dont want it to be, it works.
if i place it where i want it to be, it sigsegvs
 
L1102[15:52:41] <Biohazard> t_t
 
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L1105[16:06:28] <Biohazard> ok wat. my
bot runs fine through valgrind
 
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L1112[16:20:49] <Wired> Hi there
asie|tab, what'cha up to?
 
L1114[16:20:57] <Wired> Got that server
goin' yet?
 
L1115[16:20:58] <ping> \o/ Wired
 
L1116[16:21:12] <asie|tab> Wired:
priorities
 
L1117[16:21:14] <Wired> \o/ ping
 
L1118[16:21:16] <asie|tab> look at
pic
 
L1119[16:21:45] <Wired> asie|tab: What
kinda keyboard is that?
 
L1120[16:22:02] <asie|tab> Wired: apple
extended keyboard ii
 
L1121[16:22:08] <asie|tab> with alps
mechanical switches
 
L1122[16:22:54] <Wired> Never messed with
alps, how are they?
 
L1123[16:23:32] <asie|tab> awesome
 
L1124[16:23:38] <asie|tab> theyre the
ones cherry mx'es clone
 
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L1126[16:24:07] <Wired> Well yeah, but
cherries have a big list. Which ones are they closest to?
 
L1127[16:24:29] <Gopher> kenny: were you
working on anything in particular with gml, or just trying it
out?
 
L1128[16:25:02] <asie|tab> Wired:
white/cream
 
L1129[16:25:36] <Wired> I think people
call those clears nowadays.
 
L1130[16:25:52] <asie|tab> yes
 
L1131[16:26:32] <Wired> Alps are 80g?
Holy. Isn't that kinda heavy?
 
L1132[16:27:04] <asie|tab> Wired:
actually no
 
L1133[16:27:10] <asie|tab> i have a razer
black widow to compare
 
L1134[16:27:16] <asie|tab> it uses loud
cherries, not sure which ones
 
L1135[16:27:19] <Wired> blues
 
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L1138[16:27:20] <Gopher|omnom>
herpderp.
 
L1139[16:27:23] <asie|tab> yes
 
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L1141[16:27:28] <asie|tab> the aekii is
more comfortable than those
 
L1142[16:27:37] <asie|tab> the heaviness
might be bad info as i am sure theyre not that heavy
 
L1143[16:27:41] <asie|tab> and the
keycaps are done well
 
L1144[16:27:41] <Gopher> kenny: were you
working on anything in particular with gml earlier, or just trying
it out?
 
L1145[16:28:16] <Wired> I'm used to
typing on 35/45g. I think 80g would drive them out of my
norm.
 
L1146[16:28:43] <Wired> I think blues are
too heavy really.
 
L1147[16:29:02] <Wired> And those are a
mere 65g.
 
L1149[16:31:43] <Wired> What kinda keys
are those?
 
L1150[16:32:03] <Wired> ABS
probably?
 
L1151[16:33:04] <Wired> Just googled it.
It's PBT with an ABS spacebar.
 
L1152[16:33:23] <Wired> Nice.
 
L1153[16:39:46] <asie|tab> yeah
 
L1154[16:39:55] <asie|tab> the AEK II is
Apple's "answer" to the Model M
 
L1155[16:39:57] <asie|tab> pretty
much
 
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L1165[18:10:37] <Gopher> ... nice.
can't reload my world, getting a crash from OC, access
violation.
 
L1166[18:13:00] <Kenny> can you paste the
log?
 
L1167[18:14:35] <Kenny> i'm looking
at using gml to redo the CompViewer so it will work on all 3 tiers
of computer
 
L1168[18:15:47] <Kenny> since my
CompViewer is just an OC version of CC's Peripheral Info
Viewer i want to make it look a hell of a lot better than
their's hehe
 
L1169[18:16:28] <Kenny> the listbox fits
my neds perfectly for doing that
 
L1170[18:16:39] <Gopher> it's the
exact same error as issue #31 on github
 
L1171[18:17:00] <Kenny> you would. my
browser is shut down :P
 
L1172[18:17:04] <Gopher> but this is a
world that worked fine, I closed the game, and when I tried to
re-enter the world, crash. Done everything but reboot my computer
at this point.
 
L1173[18:18:04] <Gopher> I have to sort
this out first, or at least start a new world and set my
files/computer back up, but shouldn't be too much longer
before another push
 
L1174[18:18:31] <Gopher> which will have
listboxes with select(index), getSelected(), and updateList()
 
L1175[18:19:17] <Gopher> as well as
gml.filePicker(), but you won't need that for compviewer
 
L1176[18:19:37] <Wired> Are you on linux
Gopher?
 
L1177[18:19:40] <Gopher> nope
 
L1178[18:19:43] <Gopher> windows 7
 
L1179[18:20:16] <Kenny> do you have an
ATI graphics card?
 
L1180[18:21:17] <Kenny> Sangar: found
something dealing with issue 31 you might want to look at
 
L1181[18:22:08] <Gopher> yeah, ati
 
L1182[18:22:11] <Wired> Anyone wanna play
on my OC server?
 
L1183[18:22:44] <Kenny> you may need to
update your drivers
 
L1184[18:22:48] <Gopher> unless it just
installed drivers in the last 15 minutes without me noticing, I
don't see why it would be the drivers, tho
 
L1185[18:23:04] <Gopher> I've been
ni and out of this world a dozen times under nearly identical
conditions
 
L1186[18:23:13] <Kenny> hmmm
 
L1187[18:23:31] <Gopher> this is the
first it's happened, and it's happening every time I try
to load that world now, just as it starts rendering (world appears,
monotor I'm facing still blank)
 
L1188[18:23:34] <Kenny> I know Sangar is
going to need to rename those func_ s to the new name
 
L1189[18:24:19] <Kenny> tell you the
truth, give me a few minutes, i'm going to do the rename and
make a PR
 
L1190[18:26:52] <Gopher> even if
it's a driver issue, clearly something specific in my old
saved state is triggering it. New world working fine, same programs
I've been working on for days, quit and reenter, gui draws to
monitor, no problem.
 
L1191[18:29:03] <Gopher> would having
that world save help? I can zip up it and the modpack I'm
using it woth and upload somewhere
 
L1192[18:32:14] <Kenny> it might. if you
can ziop and upload, i can check it out. I have an NVidia card so
should have no issue
 
L1193[18:33:22] <Kenny> i know in that
error report for issue 31, the log shows it using 2 func_ names
that should have been Srg-fied
 
L1194[18:33:50] <Kenny> i looked at the
Methods, sheet from MCP and both have been given names
 
L1197[18:35:19] <Kenny> yeah, that was
better. the first link was a dead one hehe
 
L1198[18:35:22] <Gopher> my mod pack will
take a bit longer to upload. It's 1.6.4, mainly oc and te, few
convenience things
 
L1199[18:35:28] *
Sangar yawns 
L1200[18:35:35] <Sangar> hm
 
L1201[18:35:45] <Kenny> weh ave another
ATI issue
 
L1202[18:35:50] <Sangar> can you give me
the coordinates of the screen?
 
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L1204[18:35:59] <Gopher> the
coordinates?
 
L1205[18:36:06] <Gopher> oh, world
coordinates? Just a sec
 
L1206[18:36:20] <Gopher> ehrm. actually,
not reeally. But it's basically at spawn.
 
L1207[18:36:31] <Gopher> Several
computers around, only one advanced case, and it's the only
one turned on
 
L1208[18:36:32] <Sangar> yeah. the only
thing i imagine might be helpful is the exact state of the screen.
i'll have a look with nbtexplorer.
 
L1209[18:36:39] <Gopher> It crashes
before I can probably even f3
 
L1210[18:36:52] <Sangar> set the render
range for the screens to zero in the config
 
L1211[18:36:57] <Gopher> k
 
L1213[18:38:54] <Gopher> aand in the
world without crashing. Handy config setting, that, at least right
now. Standing on the monitor (jsut a 1x1 tier 3) foot pos
186,201,73
 
L1214[18:39:00] <Gopher> x,z,y
 
L1215[18:39:27] <Sangar> all right,
thanks
 
L1216[18:39:29] <Kenny> Sangar, I looked
at the error report attached to issue 31, func_76894_a is now
called renderTileEntityAt, and func_76949_a is called
renderTileEntityAt also
 
L1217[18:39:53] <Kenny> i don't know
if that would be an issue or not
 
L1218[18:40:18] <Sangar> shouldn't,
really.
 
L1219[18:40:37] <Kenny> 2 separate
functions called by th same name?
 
L1220[18:40:40] <Gopher> nothing special
on screen, just running my test program for the new filePicker. I
tried quitting and reentering in my new world with the same program
running, no issues.
 
L1221[18:41:42] <Gopher> you said both
were now called renderTileEntityAt
 
L1222[18:41:56] <Kenny> yep
 
L1223[18:42:00] <Gopher> oh, right.
Derp.
 
L1224[18:42:36] <Gopher> misread
something there.
 
L1225[18:42:40] <Kenny> i have an
advatage in testing this issue
 
L1226[18:43:01] <Kenny> i have an NVidia
card but the onboard graphics are ATI
 
L1227[18:43:02] <Sangar> uhm,
they've always been called that. they're just obf'ed
to srg. which is perfectly normal afaik.
 
L1228[18:43:14] <Kenny> okey dokey
 
L1229[18:44:05] <Kenny> i can switch from
my video card to the onboard graphics and see if i have the same
issue
 
L1230[18:44:23] <Kenny> as this appears
to be an ATI specific issue
 
L1231[18:46:42] <Kenny> first i'm
setting uyp an instance so i can get thew world coordinates for
Sangar
 
L1232[18:47:04] <Sangar> Kenny, i have
them (see above)
 
L1233[18:47:05] <Gopher> I already did,
if you mean from my save file?
 
L1234[18:47:15] <Kenny> ok
 
L1235[18:48:15] <Kenny> you got in the
save, Gopher?
 
L1236[18:48:37] <Gopher> yeah, changed
monitor render dist to 0, rebooted computer, changed back, fine
again
 
L1237[18:49:32] <Kenny> brb
 
L1238[18:50:43] <Sangar> hm. sadly
nothing out of the ordinary as far as i can see :/
 
L1239[18:54:46] <Gopher> ah well
 
L1240[18:55:59] <Kenny> be a good idea to
make a copy of it now
 
L1241[18:56:51] <Gopher> who, me? meh,
it's a creative world, nothing in it I care about but code,
and that's in a git repo
 
L1242[18:57:32] <Kenny> okey dokey
 
L1243[18:58:09] <Sangar> guess it's
just ati's displaylist support being... weird. i'm hoping
to rewrite the text renderer in the not-too-far future, hopefully
that'll also resolve this.
 
L1244[18:59:05] <Sangar> anyway, i'm
off to bed (again), gnight.
 
L1245[18:59:10] <Wired> Night
Sangar!
 
L1246[18:59:10] <Kenny> nite
 
L1247[18:59:26] <Gopher> I've been
using oc /heavily/, and continuously doing exactly the things that
seem to cause this (changing bg colors), and this is the first time
I've seen it
 
L1248[18:59:34] <Gopher> night,
Sangar
 
L1249[19:11:48] <Gopher> nearly done with
the filePicker, but I'm gonna have to do something about how
I'm drawing, it's starting to get noticeably and
annoyingly flickery
 
L1250[19:13:00] <Gopher> actually, minor
tweak to my actual test program just removed most of that. Score
one for procrastination of optimization.
 
L1251[19:32:49] <Gopher> ok, savedlg
isn't entirely finsihed yet btu the list boxes have enough new
goodness to be worth a sync
 
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L1253[19:34:52] <Gopher> and that means
time for more documentation updating :sigh:
 
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L1256[19:36:59] <Kenny> \o
 
L1257[19:40:20] <Kenny> can't wait
:)
 
L1258[19:40:46] <Kenny> one last
cigarette and i'm gonna lay it down for the night
 
L1259[19:40:50] <Gopher> the update is
sync'd, plus the new sample program that shows all the new
features (test/prototype of the file picker dialog)
 
L1260[19:40:58] <Kenny> been up since 2am
this morning
 
L1261[19:41:29] <Kenny> i'll grab it
in the morning, having trouble seeing straight now
 
L1262[19:43:10] <Kenny> been up for
almost 20 hours now
 
L1263[19:48:39] <Wired> So you're
just gettin' started, eh?
 
L1264[19:49:09] <Kenny> who me?
 
L1265[19:49:23] <Wired> Who stole the
cookie from the cookie jar?
 
L1266[19:49:34] <Kenny> Charlie
Brown
 
L1267[19:49:41] <Wired> Well that clears
things up.
 
L1268[19:50:01] <Kenny> He's gonna
get caught just you wait and see
 
L1269[19:50:13] <Kenny> Whyh's
everybody always picking on me?
 
L1270[19:55:43] <ShadowKatStudios>
Here's something to consider: You know the thing about
bandwidth vs latency with the 747 full of CDs? Try an airborne
minecart full of casette tapes
 
L1271[19:56:23] <Wired> I got it, a 747
full of 32GB micro SD cards
 
L1272[19:58:21] <ShadowKatStudios> 256GB
SSDs?
 
L1273[19:58:37] <ShadowKatStudios> You
could probably get a 1TB SSD
 
L1274[19:58:46] <Wired> I think by volume
the 32GB microSDs are still more
 
L1275[19:59:04] <Wired> Ah no, the flash
chip inside the 32GB microSD
 
L1276[19:59:10] <Wired> just fill the 747
with those
 
L1277[19:59:32] <ShadowKatStudios> And
plaster the outside with them, then hook them up to a single USB
port
 
L1278[19:59:57] <ShadowKatStudios> When
the 747 gets to the terminal, it downloads all the stuff
 
L1279[20:00:01] <ShadowKatStudios>
Genius.
 
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L1281[20:08:37] <Gopher> aaand wiki
documentation updated.
 
L1282[20:09:28] <Gopher> by god, if
nothing else, I'll have the best documented damned library in
the OC codeverse.
 
L1283[20:09:33] <ShadowKatStudios> What
are you documenting, I've not been listening
 
L1284[20:09:35] <ShadowKatStudios>
?
 
L1285[20:09:38] <Gopher> my gui
library
 
L1287[20:13:35] <ShadowKatStudios>
That's pretty nice
 
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L1289[20:16:33] <ping> wat
 
L1290[20:19:18] <Gopher> sks: ty
 
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L1294[20:46:29] <Gopher> .. gml.lua is up
to 44k, lol
 
L1295[20:46:47] <Gopher> I may have to
seriously consider trying to optimize that for code size at some
point...>.<
 
L1296[20:46:51] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
music files bigger than that :P
 
L1297[20:47:17] <Gopher> yes, well, I
have video files larger than those music files, and I'm sure
other people have other files bigger still
 
L1298[20:47:24] <Gopher> but that's
44k of lua source I wrote in the last few days
 
L1299[20:47:28] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
a 6GB log file
 
L1300[20:47:47] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nothing I have will open it..
 
L1301[20:48:10] <Gopher> I started on
this project thursday morning
 
L1302[20:48:14] <Gopher> lol. textpad?
notepad++?
 
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L1304[20:48:24] <ShadowKatStudios> Nope,
nothing
 
L1305[20:48:31] <ping> esolang.lua is 16
KB
 
L1306[20:50:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmmm.
Twilight forest: Not enough light to make hydrogen, not enough
light for solar... it'll have to be fossil fuels
 
L1307[20:50:11] <ShadowKatStudios> Or
wood
 
L1308[20:50:48] <ping> unbind oxygen in
water
 
L1309[20:50:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I
wonder if I could make enough power using solar...
 
L1310[20:51:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Algae
+ Water at light level 15 gives you hydrogen, which can be burned
cleanly
 
L1311[20:51:42] <ping> artificial
light
 
L1312[20:51:44] <Gopher> no shortage of
biomass, assuming you have something to make biofuel
 
L1313[20:51:49] <ShadowKatStudios>
Hydroponics?
 
L1314[20:51:53] *
ShadowKatStudios supports this idea 
L1315[20:52:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Hah,
my neighbor is growing hemp so...
 
L1316[20:52:37] <ping> i remember making
stacks of biofuel cells from shearing all the leaves in the
forest
 
L1317[20:52:47] <ping> moi friend was
raging
 
L1318[20:52:59] <ping> because there were
a bunch of trees without leaves
 
L1319[20:53:02] <ShadowKatStudios>
That's... Horrific... But it'd work
 
L1320[20:53:15] <ping> i took out a
400x400m forest
 
L1321[20:53:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Just
chop down the wood, what forest?
 
L1322[20:53:27] <ping> i diddnt take the
wood
 
L1323[20:53:32] <ping> only leaves for
biofuel
 
L1324[20:56:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Burn
the wood :D
 
L1325[21:03:36] <Bizzycola> Is there some
new feature in buildcraft where redstone engines don't turn on
with a redstone signal?
 
L1326[21:03:44] <Bizzycola> Because no
matter how I feed them redstone, they don't work
 
L1327[21:03:48] <Bizzycola> but all the
other engines do..
 
L1328[21:05:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Dunno
what's going on there
 
L1329[21:05:10] <ShadowKatStudios> What
are you trying to power?
 
L1330[21:05:39] <Bizzycola> my OC
computer
 
L1331[21:05:48] <Bizzycola> I'd use
coal engiens but I have to fuel them and they like exploding
:p
 
L1332[21:08:38] <Bizzycola> okay they are
changing colour but not moving or outputting power :p
 
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L1334[21:09:55] <ShadowKatStudios> RS
engines are only really meant to power pipes
 
L1335[21:10:11] <ShadowKatStudios> They
don't really put out any power...
 
L1336[21:10:30] <Bizzycola> well they
used to work :p
 
L1337[21:12:18] <Bizzycola> I
wouldn't mind coal engines if they would stop exploding every
time I turn around
 
L1338[21:14:43] <Gopher> heh.
 
L1339[21:15:16] <Gopher> This is one of
the many reasons I like TE, even if it is at times the "easy
mode" of machine+power tech mods
 
L1340[21:15:39] <ShadowKatStudios> I like
EnderIO, solar panels that output MJ :D
 
L1341[21:15:56] <Bizzycola> TE? :p
 
L1342[21:16:05] <Bizzycola> thermal
expansion or what ever?
 
L1343[21:16:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Or RF,
or probably UE power depending on what you attach it to)
 
L1344[21:17:18] <Bizzycola> I need to get
a better mod then BC for poweringmy computer
 
L1345[21:17:37] <ShadowKatStudios>
Engineer's Toolbox is cool
 
L1346[21:18:28] <ShadowKatStudios>
Modular machines
 
L1347[21:18:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
water power
 
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L1349[21:19:45] <Bizzycola> not sure
I've ever looked at engineers toolbox before
 
L1350[21:20:07] <ShadowKatStudios>
It's pretty cool
 
L1351[21:20:15] <ShadowKatStudios>
Wired's server has it
 
L1352[21:20:42] <Bizzycola> oh lool my
coal engines started exploding
 
L1353[21:20:46] <Bizzycola> WELL FAK YOU
TOO BUILCRAFT
 
L1355[21:21:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Ignore
the modlist there, it's outdated
 
L1357[21:24:59] <Gopher> delayed
response, but yeah, thermal expansion. Has coal-powered (or
anything flamable, really) steam engines that don't explode,
so long as you keep them full of water. I'm pretty sure even
then they don't explode, just jam and require banging with a
wrench to fix.
 
L1358[21:25:07] <Gopher> Like I said,
kindof the easy mode of the machine mod world, heh
 
L1359[21:25:12] <Gopher> but very
server-friendly.
 
L1360[21:26:32] <Gopher> I've fallen
woefully behind, not been experimenting with new mods for a long
time
 
L1361[21:26:54] <Gopher> well, other than
OC.
 
L1362[21:28:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I
wouldn't mind TE if you could hook up dynamos to BC energy
pipes
 
L1363[21:34:21] <Bizzycola>
ShadowKatStudios: What is tp_extras?
 
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L1365[21:34:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Just
some random stuff, like a 65535 bucket tank and a fly enchant for
boots
 
L1366[21:35:00] <ping> :D
 
L1367[21:35:10] <ping> <3 the number
65535
 
L1368[21:35:22] <ping> its one of my
favorite numbers
 
L1369[21:35:58] <ping> .lua
(2^16)-1
 
L1370[21:35:59] <^v> ping, 65535
 
L1371[21:36:00] <ping> <3
 
L1372[21:36:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Yep,
one of my favourites too
 
L1373[21:36:19] <ShadowKatStudios> 255 is
also pretty cool
 
L1374[21:36:31] <ping> .lua 2^8-1
 
L1375[21:36:31] <^v> ping, 255
 
L1376[21:36:47] <Bizzycola> I am being
told I require emashercore in forge logs but their site has no
emasher core for anything after 1.5 :p
 
L1377[21:37:42] <ShadowKatStudios>
Really?
 
L1378[21:38:00] <ShadowKatStudios> When
trying to install/run the pack?
 
L1379[21:38:17] <Bizzycola> no I was
installing it into my mc
 
L1380[21:38:38] <Bizzycola> I also have
thaumcraft/mystcraft and wanted to keep them with their current
IDs
 
L1381[21:38:58] <ShadowKatStudios>
uhrm...
 
L1383[21:40:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Get
Gascraft with engineer's toolbox and the core
 
L1384[21:40:32] <Bizzycola> I hate ID
conflicts
 
L1385[21:40:53] <Bizzycola> I especially
hate resolving them
 
L1386[21:42:26] <ShadowKatStudios>
They're easy enough to fix, they're just annoying
 
L1387[21:42:36] <Bizzycola> I know
 
L1388[21:43:08] <Bizzycola> least
redpower used to fix it's conflicts for you :p
 
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L1390[21:43:38] <ping> wat
 
L1391[21:43:43] *
ping stabs luasqlite 
L1392[21:44:09] <Bizzycola> What is the
highest block ID available? o.O
 
L1393[21:47:18] <ShadowKatStudios> 4095
iirc
 
L1394[21:47:31] <Bizzycola> fun
 
L1395[21:47:46] <Bizzycola> need 200,000
for all my mods :p
 
L1396[21:47:46] <ShadowKatStudios> 12-bit
block addresses?
 
L1397[21:50:57] <Bizzycola> k finally
fixed conflicts :p
 
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L1399[22:04:24] <Bizzycola>
"Exception in thread "Server thread"
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
cpw/mods/fml/common/ObfuscationReflectionHelper" looks
fun
 
L1400[22:04:56] <ping> looks like you
facked froge
 
L1401[22:05:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Scary
looking
 
L1402[22:05:14] <Bizzycola> i occured
after it failed due to apparently running out of memory :p
 
L1403[22:07:35] <ShadowKatStudios> I
think OC is better than CC because we have a community, while they
have a disorganized group of door-lock writers
 
L1404[22:08:10] <Bizzycola> I think OC is
better then CC because OC is better then OC :p
 
L1405[22:08:23] <Bizzycola> CC*
 
L1406[22:08:23] <Gopher> how meta
 
L1407[22:08:24] <Bizzycola> lol
 
L1408[22:08:29] <Bizzycola> oc can't
be better then itswlf
 
L1409[22:08:41] <Gopher> sure it can, if
it evolves fast enough
 
L1410[22:08:55] <Gopher> you've just
got to think fourth dimensionally!
 
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L1412[22:12:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Tree
of transformation sappling!
 
L1413[22:14:00] <Bizzycola> wow mc is
using like 80% of my cpu
 
L1414[22:14:03] <Bizzycola> gj
minecraft
 
L1415[22:24:09] <SpiritedDusty>
Minecraft, the ultimate computer benchmarking tool. “”WILL IT RUN
ON FAR?”
 
L1416[22:26:07] <ping> SpiritedDusty, it
runs on max settings no optifine 300fps on my borkd computer
._.
 
L1417[22:26:14] <ping> BUT FUCKING
CORSAIR
 
L1418[22:26:15] <SpiritedDusty> DUN DUN
DUN.
 
L1419[22:28:37] <Alyekra> Someone said
the network is down?
 
L1420[22:28:48] <Alyekra> is anyone
here?
 
L1421[22:29:11] <ping> what
 
L1422[22:29:34]
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L1423[22:29:42] <Death> This
network's not down?
 
L1424[22:29:59] <Alyekra> No, it's
not
 
L1425[22:30:10] <ping> i give up, i like
luasqlite, but it refuses to read from my include directory
 
L1426[22:30:11] <Alyekra> Esper.net is
under mainhattence
 
L1427[22:30:18] <ping>
manhattenence?
 
L1428[22:30:23] <Death> Maintenance
 
L1429[22:30:27] <Alyekra> or however you
spell that
 
L1430[22:30:42] <Alyekra> Usually I care
about spelling.
 
L1432[22:30:47] <^v> ping, <html> |
<head> | <meta name="ROBOTS"
content="NOINDEX" /> | <style
type="text/css"> | a { text-decoration: none; } |
a:hover { text-decoration: underline; } | h1 { font-family: arial,
helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt; font-weight: bold;
text-align: center; } | h2 { font-family: arial, helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;
} | body, td { font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size:
 
L1433[22:30:49] <Alyekra> But it is too
far after my bed time
 
L1434[22:30:52] <ping> er, fail
 
L1435[22:31:01] <ping> but no, esper.net
is still up
 
L1436[22:31:10] <Alyekra> Indeed
 
L1437[22:32:01] <ping> oh, the sites
under mantinence xD
 
L1438[22:32:31] <Alyekra> yeah
 
L1440[22:32:37] <^v> ping,
<p>Unfortunately, the NearlyFreeSpeech.NET member site you
are attempting | to access is temporarily unavailable due to
maintenance.</p>
 
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L1443[22:59:24] <Wired> I found a
bug.
 
L1444[22:59:43] <ping> Wired, inb4 its
already fixed
 
L1445[22:59:45] <ping> (not)
 
L1446[23:00:55] <Wired> If a robot uses a
lead, then the robot is removed, the lead stays.
 
L1447[23:01:00] <Wired> Also the
lead's invisible.
 
L1448[23:01:24] <ping> the lead's
invisible is what
 
L1449[23:01:39] <Wired> huh?
 
L1450[23:01:56] <ping> you had an
apostrophe
 
L1451[23:02:09] <Wired> Yeah, lead
is
 
L1452[23:02:20] <ping> oh right
 
L1453[23:02:31] <Wired> You're
derping tonight ping.
 
L1454[23:02:32] <ping> keep forgetting to
de learn from my retarded teachers
 
L1455[23:02:39] <Gopher> it's not
its, ping. apostrophe is also used for posessives. :)
 
L1456[23:03:13] <ping> my facking teacher
said it was only for possesives
 
L1457[23:03:29] <ping> those teachers
were stupid :(
 
L1458[23:03:34] <Wired> Anyway, this bug
is actually kinda fun. I can make invisible boundaries for
mobs.
 
L1459[23:03:38] <Gopher> also
contractions!
 
L1460[23:03:52] <ping> one said modern
technlogy decreased human life span
 
L1461[23:03:55] <Gopher> and certain
emoticons
 
L1462[23:03:58] <ping> she said humans
lived 200 years
 
L1463[23:04:10] <ping> before
technology
 
L1464[23:04:19] <Wired> Yeah, that's
total bull.
 
L1465[23:04:22] <Gopher> source: the
bible.
 
L1466[23:04:27] <ping> xD
 
L1467[23:04:37] <Gopher> adam lived over
1000 years, I think. According to genesis, or exodus, one of those
early ones with all the geneologies.
 
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L1469[23:04:46] <Wired> Let's not
start a religious war please >_>
 
L1470[23:05:06] <ping> Wired, hail...
satan?
 
L1471[23:05:08] <Gopher> Who's
warring? I'm just talkin' 'bout adam.
 
L1472[23:05:12] <Wired> Hail satin*
 
L1473[23:05:20] <Wired> The best kind of
fabric.
 
L1474[23:05:37] <Gopher> Mr. Satan is the
best kind of satan.
 
L1475[23:06:13] <Wired> But not the only
kind.
 
L1476[23:06:20] <Gopher> no, certainly
not.
 
L1477[23:06:34] <ping> 'cl' is
not recognized as an internal or external command
 
L1478[23:06:42] <ping> are you fucking
kidding me luarocks -_-
 
L1479[23:08:08] <Wired> Huh?
 
L1481[23:30:18] <ping> hmm, deadfish is
retarded
 
L1482[23:30:58] <Gopher> it took you this
long to figure that out?
 
L1483[23:31:20] <Gopher> pretty sure that
was one of it's core design goals. "be
retarded."
 
L1484[23:31:33] <Gopher> anyway, tv, then
sleep.
 
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L1486[23:31:59] <ping> well, the retarded
part is that using pow doesnt wrap around, it simply sets to 0 if
its greater than 255
 
L1487[23:32:21] <ping> and even more
retardedly, it doesnt wrap around when it goes negative
 
L1488[23:33:32] <ping> hmm, no deadfish
inturpreter in superstack \o/
 
L1489[23:36:53] <ShadowKatStudios> It was
called deafsish because it's like 'eating dead fish
heads'
 
L1490[23:41:30] <Wired> Eating live fish
heads is more difficult.
 
L1491[23:41:56] <Wired> Depends on the
fish, really.
 
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L1493[23:52:01] <ping> well im creating a
program to generate a deadfish translation table
 
L1494[23:53:37] <ShadowKatStudios>
Fishstacks seems nicer
 
L1495[23:53:49] <ping> yes, but i dont
know how to implement it
 
L1496[23:54:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Just
add a stack to deadfish, and if a value is ever 5th on the stack,
print it from what I can tell
 
L1497[23:54:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
and replace deadfish's output with a push to stack
 
L1498[23:54:39] <ping> seems,
stupid
 
L1499[23:55:46] <ping> like, its not any
better