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L5[00:24:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Hello o/
:D
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L7[00:25:39] <ShadowKatStudios> Hello
asie
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L10[00:29:26] * ping
stabs ShadowKatStudio
L11[00:29:28] <ping> derp
L12[00:29:33] * ping
stabs ShadowKatStudios
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L14[00:33:06] <Din> hey every1
L15[00:35:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Hello
Din
L16[00:36:11] <Din> hey
ShadowKatStudios
L18[00:36:19] <Din> ping ping ping
ping
L19[00:36:25] <Din> I pinged ping
L20[00:36:29] <ping> stab stab stab stab
stab stab stab
L21[00:36:35] <ShadowKatStudios> ping,
what'd I do to get you to stab me?
L22[00:36:44] <ping> ping me
L23[00:36:50] * ping
stabs ShadowKatStudios
L24[00:36:50] * Din
bleeds out
L25[00:38:01] <Din> Get . heeeelp....
L26[00:38:08] * Din
dies ();
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L28[00:38:45] <Din>
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzbzbzbzbzzbzbzbzzzzzzzzzzzz
L29[00:38:51] <Din> That's better
L30[00:38:57] <Din> thanks <4
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L32[00:42:27] <ShadowKatStudios> I couldn't
let you die Din, that's a lot of paperwork
L33[00:42:50] <Din> But, where'd you get a
100000V wire?
L34[00:43:56] <ShadowKatStudios> A room
full of PC power supplies of course
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L37[00:45:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Awesome
ping :D I like that one.
L39[00:48:08] <ShadowKatStudios> How many
bits are floating point numbers accurate to?
L40[00:48:29] <ping> uh what
L41[00:48:37] <ping> its 8 bits only
iirc
L43[00:49:02] <^v> ping, Befunge Written in
Lua by infinikiller64 1.98KB
L44[00:50:19] <ShadowKatStudios> So a float
is 32 bits int + 8 bits float?#
L45[00:50:46] <ping> my god
L46[00:50:51] <ping> its a byte
L47[00:51:03] <ping> 0-256
L48[00:51:58] <ShadowKatStudios> 255, 256
needs 9 bits
L49[00:52:09] <ping> derp
L50[00:52:12] <ping> 256 values
L51[01:04:08] <ping> well anyway
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L56[01:16:42] <Cazzar> Sangar: im lazy:
compile group: 'li.cil.oc', name: 'OpenComputers', version:
"MC${minecraft.version}-1.2.4.100"
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L61[01:26:37] <ping> by bed i mean work on
more befunge
L63[01:26:38] <^v> ping, OC Befunge Written
in Lua by infinikiller64 2.96KB
L64[01:26:43] <ping> thats what i have so
far
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L68[01:34:50] <Cazzar> Well, now my mod
supports OC :D
L69[01:35:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Cazzar,
which one is that? :p
L71[01:37:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Looks
cool
L73[01:38:08] *
Cazzar debates readding the ComputerCraft support or just keeping
it OC
L74[01:39:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Keep it
OC, maybe dam200 should add the OC API rather than the other way
around...
L75[01:44:02] <Cazzar> I like OC's API
better anyway
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L83[03:07:51] <tgame14> Kenny, unless you
want to ping everyone dont do !users :)
L84[03:08:16] <tgame14> Also, i might need
help setting up my Robots and OC stuff, never played with it before
:)
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L86[03:10:12] <tgame14> so, how do i set up
a computer?
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L88[03:25:10] <asie> i'm coming for one of
my favourite cutest retrocomputers
L89[03:25:12] <asie> the Macintosh
Classic.
L90[03:25:29] <asie> normally goes for
$100-$120 even though it's the most common Mac model over
here
L91[03:25:33] <asie> but i'm getting it for
free!
L92[03:25:57] <asie> i'll have to make Lua
5.2 (the C version) run on System 6 somehow and port
ComputerCraft-like APIs to it
L93[03:25:58] <asie> just for fun
L94[03:26:04] <asie> (well, Lua 5.1 in that
case)
L95[03:26:17] <asie> (and not OpenComputers
because i want to do it for the general lulz and CC has more
software like that)
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L103[04:35:35] <Kenny|Sleeping> the bot
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L108[05:22:54] <Lumien> Okay what would
cause a computer to randomly shut down while running a
program?
L109[05:24:46] <nekosune> HiHi
L110[05:25:06] <Lumien> hi
L111[05:39:07] <Kenny> system
overload
L112[05:39:43] <Kenny> it's a failsafe to
keep the computer from locking up if it hits an infinite loop
L113[05:40:14] <Kenny> i've had itr happen
to me enough when writing a program :)
L114[05:48:15] <Sangar> o/
L115[05:48:53] <Lumien> so i can't use
while true loops?
L116[05:50:11] <Sangar> you can if you
os.sleep() in them every so often
L117[05:50:22] <Sangar> or
event.pull
L118[05:54:38] <nekosune> Oh Hi Sangar,
would you mind if I started on a PR for Thaumcraft 1.7 in
OpenComponents 1.7? I know likely cant push until TC 1.7 is
released, but just want to know if it owuld likely get added if I
work on it
L119[05:56:47] <tgame14> Sangar, how to
Computer make in OC, i need the full noob's tutorial, but i know
Lua enough on the code part
L120[05:57:04] <tgame14> and i have OC
installed, hrm. i should get the components aswell
L121[05:57:19] <Sangar> nekosune, sure. as
long as it stays balanced, i'd be happy about that :)
L122[05:58:09] <nekosune> Sangar: just
adding drivers, to add the same stuff I added to OP for Thaumcraft
to be honest :) nothing major
L125[05:58:21] <tgame14> Aha, i looked in
the forums and found none
L126[05:58:46] <Sangar> tgame14, ah,
right. i think there was a link in the old ones, i'll add one
again.
L127[05:59:00] <Sangar> nekosune, cool, go
for it then :)
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L130[06:09:46] <tgame14> wow this is way
more complxe :P
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L134[06:39:44] <Kenny> tgame14: more
complex, but a lotg more fun :)
L135[06:41:26] <JoshTheEnder> o/
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L139[07:02:46] <Kenny> \o
L140[07:02:47]
zsh sets mode: +v on Wobbo
L141[07:03:15] <Wobbo> Kenny’s wave script
is faster than zsh
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L143[07:03:48] <Kenny> because it operates
off of a user level
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L145[07:06:54] <Wobbo> So scripts that
aren’t actually bots react faster?
L146[07:10:27] <Kenny> yep
L147[07:10:36] <Wobbo> That is
weird…
L148[07:11:22] <Kenny> not really. the bot
has to send a command to the server and the server responds. a
script can act directly in a channel
L149[07:12:15] <Kenny> and the script only
waves to certain people now
L150[07:12:51] <Kenny> since a lot of
people just wnt to bitch about being greeted when they enter the
channel
L151[07:13:03] <Kenny> want*
L152[07:13:23] <Wobbo> You used to cream
my name when I entered :P
L153[07:13:59] <Kenny> well, i can set a
script to do it :P
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L156[07:14:18] <Kenny> i'm coding a java
irc bot, and working on 2 mods as well
L157[07:14:38] <Kenny> along with working
at updating the compViewer and making it better
L158[07:15:43] <nekosune> nice
L159[07:15:49] <bolens1112> Quick
question. I am having issues running robots within a different
dimension (aroma 1977's mining world) when I place a robot in world
and turn it on the terminal does not load up. The robot's power
starts to drain but no terminal.
L160[07:16:00] <bolens1112> Anyone have
any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
L161[07:16:26] <Wobbo> Does it work
normally in the overworld?
L162[07:16:35] <bolens1112> yes and in the
nether
L163[07:17:19] <Wobbo> Then you might need
to open an issue on the bug tracker, unles someone else has an
idea.
L164[07:17:24] <bolens1112> and if I put
an autorun floppy that I have autorunning the dig program it does
not do anything.
L165[07:17:51] <bolens1112> OK, what logs
if any would be helpful?
L166[07:18:13] <Vexatos> Well, it does not
start the lua terminal.... Did you test it in any other non-vanilla
dim?
L167[07:18:26] <bolens1112> no
L168[07:18:33] *
Wobbo hands this matter over to Vexatos
L169[07:18:47] <Vexatos> Are you able to
try that?
L170[07:19:23] <bolens1112> I could let me
see what I have I will try it in a mystcraft dimension
L171[07:19:33] <Vexatos> Ok
L172[07:19:38] <bolens1112> oh by the way
turtles work fin in the dimension
L173[07:19:41] <bolens1112> *fine
L174[07:19:51] <Vexatos> Well, turtles
work differently
L175[07:20:15] <bolens1112> I know they
are not persistant and run within java.
L176[07:20:43] <Vexatos> And you are sure
the robot has lots of power?
L177[07:21:04] <bolens1112> full bar when
I start
L178[07:21:05] <Sangar> hmm, if you could
confirm it doesn't work in mystcraft ages i can try to reproduce
and fix it.
L179[07:21:09] <Vexatos> And you did click
the "Boot" button?
L180[07:21:12] <bolens1112> yes
L181[07:21:25] <Vexatos> Yea, try in a
mystcraft dim
L182[07:21:33] <bolens1112> :) "did
you try turning it off and on again?"
L183[07:21:44] <Vexatos> Indeed
L184[07:21:54] <Vexatos> 20% of the
problems are solved like this+
L185[07:22:05] <bolens1112> trust me I
know I work helpdesk.
L186[07:22:21] <Vexatos> :D
L187[07:22:50] <Sangar> what's the id of
that dimension btw, do you know?
L188[07:22:56] <bolens1112> 15
L189[07:22:59] <Sangar> huh
L190[07:24:23] <Sangar> well, anyway, let
me know if it also borks with mystcraft ages, and i'll have a look
in the evening
L191[07:24:37] <bolens1112> K will do.
Thanks!
L192[07:25:07] <Sangar> sure, thanks for
reporting it :)
L193[07:26:57] <bolens1112> glad to
help
L194[07:27:05] <dangranos> note to self:
if writing to tape, use binary mode >_<
L195[07:28:59] <bolens1112> works in a
mystcraft age
L196[07:30:35] <bolens1112> Is there any
debuging I can do from my end?
L197[07:33:55] <bolens1112> can confirm
tier one computer does not work there either
L198[07:34:15] <bolens1112> turns on but
no terminal
L199[07:34:43] <Wobbo> bolens1112: did the
computer have a screen/gpu?
L200[07:34:50] <bolens1112> yup
L201[07:35:09] <bolens1112> and keyboard
:)
L202[07:35:20] <Wobbo> I’m not thinkin
gthat you are stupid or something, but it would be really easy to
forget that ;)
L203[07:35:26] <Cazzar> bloody kvirc
playing up right now...
L204[07:35:37] <bolens1112> No I hear you
- check the physical.
L205[07:40:03] <Sangar> hmm, weird.
L206[07:40:24] <Wobbo> You can’t
reproduce?
L207[07:40:34] <Sangar> the only thing i
can think of is that the dimension reported by the world provider
is off somehow
L208[07:41:25] <bolens1112> ok, how would
I fix that?
L209[07:41:39] <bolens1112> or is that
just because of the way the mod is written?
L210[07:41:41] <Sangar> you can't. i'll
have to have a look.
L211[07:41:48] <bolens1112> ok
L212[07:41:54] <bolens1112> tell me what
you need
L213[07:42:59] <Sangar> a link to the mod,
i can't find it :P
L214[07:43:06] <bolens1112> k
L216[07:43:53] <bolens1112> I am running
DNS techpack if you want to be lazy.
L217[07:44:55] <bolens1112> Oh and just in
case you may want to know I am running both server and client on
linux boxes (ubuntu 13.10)
L218[07:45:03] <bolens1112> I dont know if
that makes a difference.
L219[07:45:24] <Sangar> shouldn't in this
case, but thanks for the info
L220[07:45:49] <bolens1112> np
L221[07:46:24] <Sangar> mc 1.6 or
1.7?
L222[07:47:53] <bolens1112> 1.6.4
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L227[07:57:02] <Sangar> oh well, this will
be a little more time consuming, since it won't work in the
dev-env. i'll have a look later.
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L229[08:00:20] <bolens1112> OK. Let me
know if I can help in any way.
L230[08:02:40] <Sangar> will do
L231[08:05:56] <Kenny> Sangar, running a
check on it in my test world
L232[08:07:11] <Sangar> ok, thanks
L233[08:07:32] <Kenny> well, i just found
that there is an update for Project Red. seems they had a thread
issue and it was using the CPU up
L234[08:07:37] <Cazzar> Sangar I finally
added OC suppourt for my jukebox mod
L235[08:08:04] <Kenny> bolens1112: how do
i get to the mining world?
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L238[08:10:02] <Sangar> Cazzar, nice!
might have to subtitle OC as the musical computer mod (Kenny's
port, asie's Tape player, now your's ... :P)
L239[08:10:27] <bolens1112> it is an item
called.. hang on
L240[08:10:47] <bolens1112> its a
"dimension Changer"
L241[08:11:04] <bolens1112> then right
click on it and hold it like you would a bow
L242[08:11:18] <Kenny> ok. thanks
L243[08:11:19] <Cazzar> Now, time for my
release onto CurseForge, Sangar, you should see how easy my
releasing is with gradle
L244[08:12:31] <tgame14> sangar you don't
use Gradle?
L245[08:12:35] <Sangar> oh right, i should
register the project there... i always forget
L246[08:12:41] <Sangar> i do
L247[08:12:46] <Sangar> just not for
pushing releases (yet)
L248[08:12:58] <Cazzar> Sangar how do you
push your releases?
L249[08:13:03] <tgame14> ah ye, CurseForge
has the maven repo?
L250[08:13:06] <Kenny> i know the texture
artist for Aroma :)
L251[08:13:13] <Cazzar> tgame14 not
yet
L252[08:13:14] <Sangar> i manually add
them on github :P
L253[08:13:31] <Cazzar> Sangar lemme hack
a gradle plugin on github for you >:D
L254[08:13:33] <tgame14> Ow Manually
:)
L255[08:13:55] <Sangar> haha :D
L257[08:14:35] <Cazzar> gradle plugins are
ez mode
L258[08:14:48] <nekosune> Cazzar: curse
gradle one allready exists :)
L259[08:14:54] <Cazzar> Also, sangar, the
IntelliJ postfix completions, OH MY GOD
L260[08:15:07] <tgame14> We have a system
already in place for Calc mods
L261[08:15:13] <tgame14> just copies and
publishes
L263[08:15:24] <Sangar> I'd have to force
myself to write cleaner commit messages for automated changelogs,
tho :P
L264[08:15:29] <Cazzar> tgame14 I know...
I implemented it
L265[08:15:36] <tgame14> OH? :DF
L266[08:15:40] <Kenny> Sangar, the
dimension number for Aroma's Mining World is not consistentg
L267[08:15:48] <Kenny> mine is 30
L268[08:15:55] <tgame14> so he uses
Dynamic demensions?
L269[08:15:58] <tgame14> many mods do
that
L270[08:16:01] <Sangar> well that doesn't
really matter
L271[08:16:09] <tgame14> Mystcraft depends
on it
L272[08:16:24] <Sangar> brb, teatime
L273[08:16:27] <Cazzar> nekosune mine was
designed around what ForgeGradle adds and is designed lightweight
:P
L274[08:17:02] <Kenny> Sangar: works for
me
L275[08:17:35] <Kenny> bolens1112: could
you send me a list of the mods you are running in your pack?
L276[08:17:51] <bolens1112> it is the DNS
Techpack I will send you a link hold on
L279[08:18:19] <tgame14> Cazzar, i believe
you
L280[08:18:27] <tgame14> 100% :) before
proof
L281[08:18:40] <nekosune> Cazzar:
nice
L282[08:18:46] <Cazzar> I even walked
calclavia through his first ASM issue...
L283[08:19:06] <tgame14> Gradle has
problems with ASM?
L284[08:19:32] <Kenny> good old
Madcock83
L285[08:19:43] <Cazzar> no, Calc was
learning ASM then
L286[08:19:50] <tgame14> Ah
L287[08:19:59] <tgame14> ye its a very
nice system
L288[08:20:22] <tgame14> only shame is
with FML not loading classes when searching for @Mod, that would be
handy if it did
L289[08:20:49] <Cazzar> what do you
mean?
L290[08:20:52] <bolens1112> kenny: yup I
like his pack, he is taking a possibly permininant hiatus from DNS
by the way
L291[08:21:05] <tgame14> FML finds @Mod
without initialized any classes
L292[08:21:06] <Kenny> i know him, used to
work with the pack
L293[08:21:11] <bolens1112> someone else
is taking over
L294[08:21:23] <bolens1112> cool
L295[08:21:28] <bolens1112> small world i
guess
L296[08:21:33] <Cazzar> tgame14, yes via
ASM
L297[08:21:37] <Kenny> remember
DNS_Storage?
L298[08:21:51] <bolens1112> vaguely,
yes
L299[08:21:56] <tgame14> ASM only happens
when class loads afaik
L300[08:21:56] <Kenny> he had the pack
before madcock
L301[08:22:04] <Kenny> one and the same
person
L302[08:22:27] <Kenny> i was helping with
bujilding the pack back when madcock took over
L303[08:22:35] <Cazzar> tgame14, correct,
though mod descovery is done via ASM as well
L304[08:22:41] <bolens1112> wow
L305[08:22:43] <Cazzar> IIRC
L306[08:22:49] <bolens1112> that was a
wile ago, no?
L307[08:22:49] <tgame14> Cazzar, i was
told it wasnt
L308[08:23:00] <Cazzar> Or, wait you dont
need to init a class to check class level annotations
L309[08:23:07] <Cazzar> im thinking
wrong
L310[08:23:12] <tgame14> Yep you are i
guess :P
L311[08:23:14] <Kenny> had nearlyt
completely set to make the pack legal and he went stupid on
me
L312[08:23:24] <tgame14> if it was, i
would be able to have my mod removal code be 3 lines
L313[08:23:43] <Kenny> anout 18 months or
more
L314[08:23:45] <tgame14> instead i do
hacky reflection and replace the immutable FML mod loading
L315[08:23:46] <bolens1112> what
happened?
L316[08:24:02] <Kenny> he decided to get
in Sengir's face
L317[08:24:06] <bolens1112> I think they
have got it legal now.
L318[08:24:10] <bolens1112> bummer
L319[08:25:42] <bolens1112> I kinda
noticed that there seems to be a lot of politics in the modded
minecraft world
L320[08:29:00] <Kenny> yeah there is
L321[08:29:17] <bolens1112> kind of a
bummer if you ask me
L322[08:29:20] <bolens1112> but I get
it
L323[08:29:53] <Kenny> the Launcher is how
he got the packlegal
L324[08:30:33] <bolens1112> Yeah, because
you can download the packs from their sites. Actually works
nicely.
L325[08:30:49] <Kenny> which pack are you
using
L326[08:31:37] <bolens1112> I selected the
recommended mods when installing the dns techpack
L327[08:31:51] <bolens1112> from the
atlauncher
L328[08:32:19] <bolens1112> by the way if
you want you can connect to my server, it is not particularly fast
but it is there
L329[08:32:29] <Kenny> no biggie
L330[08:32:49] <Kenny> it's just trying to
determin\e which pack you have
L331[08:32:54] <Cazzar> back to setting up
my release...
L332[08:33:00] <bolens1112> yup no
prob
L333[08:35:16] <bolens1112> are you
thinking it is one of the other mods interacting?
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L335[08:36:31] <Kenny> very possibly
L336[08:36:43] <Sangar> back
L337[08:38:07] <Sangar> it's a pretty odd
issue, because the packets transferring the screen state are like
any other packet, too.
L338[08:38:14] <Sangar> so if anything the
robot shouldn't even start :/
L339[08:38:47] <Kenny> bolens1112; any
idea which pack name it was?
L340[08:38:54] <bolens1112> let me
check
L341[08:39:16] <Kenny> Sangar: i'm tinking
it might be a mod conflict issue
L342[08:39:29] <Kenny> so i'm getting the
same pack he has to check
L343[08:39:41] <Sangar> probably. i'm
curious *how*, tho
L344[08:40:06] <Kenny> possible DIM
conflict between Mystcraft and the mining World?
L345[08:40:52] <Kenny> that's the first
thing to comes to mind for me
L347[08:41:28] <Kenny> i se DNS finally
got that launcher going. we started work on that thing way back in
2012
L348[08:42:06] <bolens1112> wow that is a
while, I think it came out in 2013 twords sept
L349[08:42:31] <bolens1112> lte me see if
I can get a modlist out of this
L350[08:43:19] <Kenny> did you select any
of the optional mods?
L351[08:43:25] <Kenny> i've got it
L352[08:43:32] <bolens1112> i just hit the
recomended button
L353[08:43:43] <Kenny> installing
now
L354[08:44:13] <Kenny> work on this
launcher started back in Aug of 2012 hehe
L355[08:44:35] <Kenny> McWizard101 did the
original programming
L356[08:44:40] <bolens1112> wow
L358[08:46:44] <bolens1112> I will be back
in a bit guys. Thanks for the help!
L359[08:47:02] <Sangar> cya later
L360[08:47:46] <Kenny> installing his pack
now to do some back checking
L361[08:48:15] <Kenny> if it gives me the
option i'll keep the console open so i can check it from time to
time
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L363[08:48:54] <Kenny> \o
L364[08:48:54]
zsh sets mode: +v on BevoLJ
L365[08:49:13] <Kenny> i see what Wobbo
meant hehe
L366[08:50:51] <Kenny> Sangar: the one
thing i'm looking at is that some of the guys who put these packs
together alter the mods slightly so they work together better
L367[08:51:34] <Kenny> that was what Arrrg
did so that the AMCO pack worked without any hassle
L368[08:52:05] <Sangar> hmm, such as?
different default ids?
L369[08:52:14] <Kenny> code change
L370[08:52:53] <Kenny> when Arrrg first
started the AMCO pack a number of mods were modifying MC base
files
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L372[08:53:39] <Kenny> i think most have
gotten away from that
L373[08:53:57] <Kenny> but there is, at
times, some altering of code to stop conflicts
L374[08:54:36] <Kenny> FlowerChild does it
for BTW. Technic does if for their pack to, i believe
L375[08:55:34] <Kenny> though OC would
have to be re-written to work with BTW
L376[08:56:43] <Kenny> the other issue
most people don't know about are Item ID conflicts. Forge doesn't
report on these types of conflicts
L377[08:57:08] <Kenny> the last mod to
install will get the item id which could override some other
mod
L378[08:57:25] <Kenny> damn, this takes a
while to install
L379[08:57:49] <Sangar> ah well. base file
editing is pretty much a thing of the past tho, with access
transformers, right?
L380[08:58:31] <Kenny> it should be. which
is why it surprised me with all of the errors in the RiM code
L381[08:59:29] <Kenny> i'm thinking that
might be why so many got upset with JAK over the mod
L382[09:00:18] <Kenny> just realized why
so long. over 200 mods in this pack
L383[09:00:47] <Kenny> i think that means
there just might be a chance for a mod issue causing the
problem
L384[09:01:33] <Cazzar> BTW i believe is
incompat with forge because FlowerChild
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L386[09:02:46] <Kenny> yep
L387[09:03:03] <Kenny> that's why OC would
have to be re-written
L388[09:03:16] <Kenny> and to thnk FC is
one ofthe original devs of Forge
L389[09:03:39] <Kenny> eloraam, FC, and
SpaceToad
L390[09:03:43] <Sangar> internet drama
:/
L391[09:06:05] <Kenny> from way back
hehe
L392[09:06:45] <Kenny> launching
pack
L393[09:08:27] <Kenny> damn they weren't
joking when they said the pack was memory intensive
L394[09:08:58] <Kenny> 2.5GB and
climbing
L395[09:09:24] <JoshTheEnder> sounds like
the mojang launcher when i used to use it with modded
instances
L396[09:09:47] <Kenny> cracked 3GB before
the game finally launched
L397[09:10:30] <Kenny> Snagar: you need to
update the CC API
L398[09:10:36] <Kenny> Sangar*
L399[09:10:49] <bolens1112> yeah, my
computer struggles to run DNS
L400[09:10:49] <JoshTheEnder> i remember
the mojang launcer would use about 3gb then crash, because i set
it's limit to 3g :P
L401[09:11:25] <bolens1112> I have to
shorten the render distance, but that may be because my video card
is much older than everything else in my pc
L402[09:11:26] <Sangar> Kenny, right, it
changed in 1.6 i take it?
L403[09:11:41] <Kenny> from what i heard,
a lot
L404[09:11:56] <JoshTheEnder> bolens1112,
what GFX card you got?
L405[09:12:25] <bolens1112> old nvida
8800gs i think
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L408[09:12:35] <JoshTheEnder> wow
L409[09:12:42] <JoshTheEnder> that is
old
L410[09:12:44] <bolens1112> yup old
school
L411[09:12:45] <bolens1112> :)
L412[09:13:07] <bolens1112> I just dont
play many games anymore
L413[09:13:24] <bolens1112> I do have to
update it this or next year tho. It is just too old now.
L414[09:14:19] <Kenny> Aroma is using
dynamic dims, dim number is different here
L415[09:15:04] <Kenny> Sangar: it's a tech
pack issue
L416[09:15:29] <Kenny> There is either
another mod affecting it or they have editted something
L417[09:15:29] <bolens1112> you know what
I just found out with aroma, It seems to give my turtle trouble as
well he just crashed. and I also notice that I cant use morph here
either.
L418[09:15:44] <Cazzar> Time too use
800Kbit internet to upload 26 mb
L419[09:15:46] <Kenny> Morph i can
see
L420[09:15:49] <bolens1112> I think i have
to find a new place to mine
L421[09:16:27] <Cazzar> I had to hack
Aroma's mining world once to fix it, he didnt like that x3
L422[09:18:09] <Sangar> oh. well that
sounds fun. if other mods have trouble, too... no idea. since i
haven't coded anything dimension related i couldn't say what might
be causing that.
L423[09:18:48] <Kenny> Sangar: it affects
computers as well
L424[09:19:02] <Kenny> monitor will not
fire up
L425[09:19:14] <Cazzar> Kenny the issue is
the permaday
L426[09:19:23] <Cazzar> if he STILL has
not solved said issue
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L428[09:19:29] <Cazzar> does redstone
tick?
L429[09:19:38] <Kenny> what do you
mean?
L430[09:19:54] <Sangar> ohwait, the dim
has no day-night-cycle?
L431[09:19:56] <Cazzar> place a lever and
some redstone dust
L432[09:20:14] <Cazzar> switch the lever
does the dust update/
L433[09:20:40] <Kenny> yep
L434[09:21:01] <Cazzar> Hmm, there was an
issue with dims with a hacky permaday
L435[09:21:03] <Kenny> turns on and off by
lever
L436[09:22:04] <Kenny> that could be
having an effect on the monitor since it had the ability to be
turned on and off
L437[09:22:17] <Cazzar> Eh, I suspect a
permaday issue to be the cause
L438[09:22:32] <Kenny> the hacky way done
to fix the issue might affect monitors
L439[09:22:45] <Sangar> Kenny, could you
place a cc computer and enter 'time' a few times, see if it
changes?
L440[09:22:47] <Kenny> agreed
L441[09:23:31] <Kenny> time isn't
changing
L442[09:23:44] <Sangar> then that's it.
didn't know that could be set per dimension.
L443[09:23:52] <Sangar> only knew the
doDaylightCycle gamerule.
L444[09:24:14] <Kenny> time is set perma
to Noon
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L446[09:24:21] <Cazzar> Sangar
world.calculateCelestialAngle
L447[09:24:21] <Sangar> meh. i'll either
try to figure out how to check that and show a message, or have to
change how pausing computers works...
L448[09:24:47] <Kenny> that is one hell of
a pack
L449[09:25:16] <Kenny> and i see how they
make it legal;. if mod has an adfly link, they open your browser to
do the download
L450[09:25:33] <Sangar> Cazzar, hm?
L451[09:25:51] <Cazzar> thats how you set
a perma day :P
L452[09:25:57] <Cazzar> or perma any
time
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L454[09:26:05] <Kenny> set the
CelestialAngle to one specific poitn and it stops time
L455[09:26:45] <Sangar> Cazzar, but
wouldn't the time still change then?
L456[09:27:02] <Cazzar> not in the
lighting sence IIRC
L457[09:27:42] <Sangar> but 'time' checks
world.getWorldTime() not the lighting :P
L458[09:28:12] <Sangar> it sounds like the
permaday is achieved by freezing the actual time in this
case.
L459[09:28:48] <Cazzar> I know, that way
of permaday breaks almost anything time based, so I wouldnt worry
about the edge case really
L460[09:29:54] <Sangar> for now,
yeah.
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L462[09:31:51] <Cazzar> in my mind the mod
owning that dim is broken
L463[09:32:13] <Cazzar> Also: new
Recipe("plankWood").line(LineMode.HORIZONTAL,
Blocks.noteblock, 1).dot(Blocks.jukebox, 5).dot(Blocks.chest,
2).setProduces(jukebox).register()
L464[09:32:17] <Cazzar> I think I am too
lazy
L466[09:33:54] <Sangar> wow. that seems
somewhat overkill :X
L467[09:34:08] <Wobbo> G0pher just pointed
out a problem with the package API, packages that install listeners
should be removed when the lib is unloaded, does anybody have an
idea to make that work?
L468[09:35:09] <Sangar> the lib would have
to provide an 'unregister' method and that would have to be called
before that.
L469[09:35:31] <Sangar> it's not really a
fault in the package lib, tho. it's just not meant to be used that
way (i.e. packages being un- and reloaded)
L470[09:35:35] <Wobbo> By the user you
mean?
L471[09:35:42] <Wobbo> Sangar: true
L472[09:35:52] <Kenny> 223 mods total in
that pack
L473[09:36:02] <Wobbo> If you run it on
your computer he unloads all the packages each time you reopen the
lua prompt
L474[09:36:25] <Sangar> yeah.
L475[09:36:37] <Kenny> do you really want
to check all of them? hehe
L476[09:36:41] *
Cazzar is not planning to make a massive OC mod soon
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L478[09:37:01] <Cazzar>
JoshTheEnderMightNotBeHere, you there? :P
L479[09:37:36] <Kenny> someone in
OpenFrames complained about the length of that nick hehe
L480[09:38:02] <Kenny> i know he wouldn;t
get in Risugami's channel iwth it
L481[09:38:10] <Cazzar> or
#MinecraftForge
L482[09:38:20] <Kenny> they have a cap on
the length
L483[09:38:47] <Kenny> i know how it's
done so if it got to be too much of an issue, well.......
L484[09:39:05] <Cazzar> simple regex
:P
L485[09:39:09] <Sangar> Wobbo, we could
add some standard 'unregister' callback to the package lib, so
users don't have to do that manually (basically when loaded.x = nil
is called)
L486[09:39:17] <Kenny> use the ban
list
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L488[09:39:53] <Wobbo> How would package
know which modules install listeners?
L489[09:40:02] <Sangar> on the one side i
dislike that because it deviates from the lib's
"standard" behavior, on the other hand it is already
somewhat "specialized" for OC anyway
L490[09:40:38] <Sangar> the module could
return M, someFunction
L491[09:40:41] <Sangar> when being
loaded
L492[09:40:49] <Sangar> instead of just
return M
L493[09:40:59] <Sangar> and someFunction
would be the destructor, basically
L494[09:41:34] <Sangar> that way things
would stay compatible
L495[09:41:48] <Cazzar> Kenny you know
what is fun, banning $~o :3
L496[09:42:09] <Kenny> don't think i want
to try it hehe
L498[09:44:12] <bolens1112> so Aroma did
"endless day" stupidly
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L500[09:44:52] <bolens1112> kenny: at
least that is what I got from what you guys just said
L501[09:45:06] <Kenny> right
L502[09:45:29] <bolens1112> is there a
workaround or should I just use msytcraft ages for mining?
L503[09:45:49] <Sangar> bolens1112, well,
that's what it looks like anyway. he might have had his reasons,
but still.
L504[09:46:00] <Kenny> use mystcraft ages
for mining
L505[09:46:01] <Sangar> for oc at this
point, no workaround i'm afraid.
L506[09:46:13] <Cazzar> Sangar, aroma isnt
the best of coders.... lets just say
L507[09:46:15] <bolens1112> I think he may
have done it to stop spawning
L508[09:46:27] <Wobbo> Sangar, that breaks
compatibility, since require just returns what the module returns,
so it might return a second value I believe. Would have to test
that though
L509[09:46:34] <asie> hey Sangar
L510[09:46:37] <asie> i have a new
computer with me!
L511[09:46:55] <bolens1112> Thanks guys
for all the help. Let me know if I can help you guys out in any
way!
L512[09:47:08] <Sangar> Wobbo, require
would still just return that - package would use that internally
(from the loader)
L513[09:47:27] <Sangar> asie, what
kind?
L514[09:47:31] <Wobbo> I mean that the
current require might be broken :P
L515[09:47:50] <Sangar> Wobbo, ah :P
L516[09:48:01] <Wobbo> Would have to test
that though
L517[09:48:14] <Cazzar> bolens1112 that
doesnt stop mob spawns at all, we had tons of TC blue slimes one
time
L518[09:48:34] <asie> Sangar:
Well...
L519[09:48:34] <bolens1112> OK., I really
have no idea how it works. :)
L520[09:48:55] <Kenny> Sangar: unusual
license for Aroma, you are allowed to decompile and edit it. just
can't redistribute the edit or the source hehe
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L523[09:49:11] <Kenny> ioncoming
pita
L524[09:49:16] <Cazzar> Kenny I broke 2 of
them once x3
L525[09:49:22] <Cazzar> Kenny, also
ASM!
L526[09:49:30] <Sangar> oh, wow.
"new" :D
L527[09:49:37] <asie> Sangar: hah!
L528[09:49:40] <asie> It's a Macintosh
Classic
L529[09:49:43] <asie> the most
underpowered compact Mac
L530[09:49:49] <Sangar> hahaha
L531[09:50:08] <asie> I want to figure out
how to run Lua on it using one of the POSIX passthrough
libraries
L532[09:50:12] <Kenny> those came out back
in 80-81
L533[09:50:14] <asie> and then...
ComputerCraft? OpenComputers? Who knows!
L534[09:50:19] <asie> Kenny: 1990, this
one
L535[09:50:29] <Sangar> oh wow. good luck
with that!
L536[09:50:30] <DarkIRC> dont you just
hate it when minecraft crashes and explodes with lots of fire for
reasons even the internet doesnt know x)
L537[09:50:44] <Kenny> lol
L538[09:50:48] <asie> Sangar: well, it's
mostly an average 1990 Mac only with an 8MHz 68000 CPU
L539[09:50:57] <Cazzar> Also, Kenny Aroma
gets shitty if you even touch his code with a decompiler
L540[09:50:57] <asie> back when 16MHz
68020s were standard
L541[09:51:04] <Cazzar> I know from
experience
L542[09:51:06] <asie> also 2MB builtin RAM
but it has two 30-pin SIMM slots I plan to fill
L543[09:51:12] <Kenny> i quote that right
from his forum page
L544[09:51:15] <asie> it works quite well
with System 6, though
L545[09:51:42] <Cazzar> Kenny, were you on
the modpack on the DW20TS?
L546[09:51:46] <Sangar> i'm amazed it does
still work :)
L547[09:51:49] <Kenny> and if he says
something to mme about, I'll thow those words of his right back in
his egotistical face
L548[09:51:53] <asie> Sangar: Many old
Macs work well
L549[09:51:58] <asie> Back then, Apple
used to actually make quality hardware
L550[09:52:03] <asie> that ended as soon
as Jobs came back in the late 90s
L551[09:52:08] <Sangar> :>
L552[09:52:15] <Kenny> nope, haven't been
on ts for some time now
L553[09:52:27] <asie> as long as you make
sure to replace the capacitors every 20-25 years
L554[09:52:30] <asie> it's going to work
for a looooooong time
L555[09:52:39] <asie> most fails of those
old Macs are exploding caps
L556[09:52:40] <Kenny> my only real
connection to DW20 is being the original founder of
#Direwolf20
L557[09:53:22] <Wobbo> asie: does it
support POSIX?
L558[09:53:32] <asie> Wobbo: Not
exactly
L559[09:53:35] <Kenny> i started that
channel for him and within 30 days he gained almost 10,000
viewers
L560[09:53:42] <asie> Before OS X, Mac OS
was a fully custom system
L561[09:53:48] <asie> like, no terminal or
command prompt level of custom
L562[09:53:55] <asie> There are a few
libraries which add POSIX functions
L563[09:54:01] <asie> and I think the C
compiler implements the ANSI C standard
L564[09:54:03] <Kenny> which is the basis
for MS Windows, i believe
L565[09:54:08] <asie> but for proper POSIX
calls and signals, forget about it
L566[09:54:12] <Wobbo> That is more
restricted than I had imagined.
L567[09:54:22] <asie> Wobbo: Not
restricted at all, just different
L568[09:54:27] <asie> it's just as
powerful, just no good IPC
L570[09:54:34] <^v> Cazzar, awk ldap query
to yaml Written in Shell by bdoll 0.92KB
L571[09:54:34] <asie> inter-process
communication was only improved in System 7
L572[09:54:54] <Cazzar> O-O
L573[09:55:08] <Cazzar> HALLP
L574[09:55:14] <Cazzar> nope thats not
it...
L575[09:55:15] <Wobbo> I drop down in the
terminal almost daily, and not just to update homebrew
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L577[09:55:31] <asie> Wobbo: No, there's a
difference
L578[09:55:35] <Wobbo> Also, does it have
applescript? :P
L579[09:55:36] <asie> between a CLI system
you shoehorn a GUI in (Linux)
L580[09:55:40] <asie> and a GUI system
designed for GUI from the start
L581[09:55:47] <asie> because if there's
only a GUI, you can do anything you could do with a CLI with that
GUI
L582[09:56:03] <asie> AppleScript was only
introduced in System 7. The Classic supports System 7, but it's a
tad slow due to the underpowered CPU
L583[09:56:08] <Wobbo> I know, I don’t
like that about Linux, it is forged, not like OS X
L584[09:56:18] <asie> for System 6, custom
alternatives are available, reminiscent in quality of AutoIt
2
L585[09:56:23] <Sangar> Cazzar, errr...
probably the chars.
L586[09:56:47] <Sangar> try 'W': Character
etc or Char.box('W')
L587[09:56:48] <asie> but the Classic is a
very cute machine in my opinion
L588[09:56:55] <asie> I want to talk my
mom into putting it on my desk but that will be haaaard
L589[09:56:58] <Kenny> whast if you put
the chars in " " rather than ' '
L590[09:57:05] <Wobbo> asie: but still, I
prefer cd/ls/cp/mv over the finder, it is a lot of clicking and
stuff :P
L591[09:57:28] <asie> Wobbo: Yes, but the
Mac was designed "for the rest of us", people who don't
understand terminals
L592[09:57:33] <Wobbo> But then again I
also use Vim :P
L593[09:57:35] <asie> I do understand
terminals but I prefer GUIs
L594[09:57:35] <asie> that is
L595[09:57:40] <asie> well-designed GUIs
> terminals > everything else
L596[09:57:50] <asie> and System 6/7 is a
lot better designed than OS X
L597[09:57:58] <asie> as OS X suffers from
a lot of the same problems of Linux earlier versions didn't
L598[09:58:02] <asie> it's a GUI
shoehorned on a complex CLI system
L599[09:58:22] <asie> but Apple is
desperately trying to deprecate the CLI, like Microsoft tried to
hide MS-DOS in Windows ME
L600[09:58:25] <Wobbo> I tried to run
Linux programs on OS X, which works pretty well actually. Until you
try to open a document from the finder <.>
L601[09:58:25] <asie> they completely
fail, of course
L602[09:58:36] <Cazzar> Kenny shit hits
the fan, and the fan is industrial
L603[09:58:40] <asie> Wobbo: That's
usually not a good idea until you have to
L604[09:58:50] <Kenny> lol
L605[09:59:10] <Wobbo> It was mostly for
some KDE programs that we also used at the university, I didn’t
know better back then(last year :P)
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L607[09:59:43] <Wobbo> I quite like Aqua
actually, what do you mean with GUI shoehorned on a complex
CLI?
L608[10:00:03] <Wobbo> Unless you talk
about the booting process, that is really weird if you ask me
L609[10:00:03] <asie> Wobbo: OS X's
Preferences panel
L610[10:00:11] <asie> is absolutely
horrifying
L611[10:00:23] <asie> Unlike System 6 or
7, which doesn't offer complex configuration out of the box
L612[10:00:23] <Wobbo> Why?
L613[10:00:27] <asie> OS X does, they just
hide it like crazy often
L614[10:00:41] <Wobbo> Ah, you mean the
default CLU
L615[10:03:35] <Cazzar> What the fuck
minecraft..
L616[10:04:09] <Wobbo> But that is all?
your whole complaint about shoehorned GUI’s? :P
L617[10:04:25] <asie> Wobbo: Well...
L618[10:04:27] <asie> yes
L619[10:04:40] <asie> if you want a
GUI-centric system, like Apple does, make sure everything can be
done with a GUI
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L621[10:05:12] <Wobbo> That would make
system preferences a beast that you can’t find shit in
L622[10:05:33] *
Cazzar is contemplating rewriting his jukbox mod
again...
L623[10:05:38] <Cazzar> its 3AM
L624[10:05:40] <Wobbo> And really, most
stuff you needs default for is uncommon stuff like diabeling the
dashboard
L625[10:05:40] <Cazzar> time for
sleep
L626[10:05:50] <asie> Wobbo: Not
really
L627[10:05:53] <asie> Just make it
nested
L628[10:06:03] <asie> or add a panel to
edit text settings in a graphical way
L629[10:06:09] <asie> see what Firefox
does with its variables
L630[10:06:12] <Gopher> ...The hell
L631[10:06:16] <asie> you can go to a
special page and see every single option in the browser
L632[10:06:33] <Gopher> for i=1,#t do
print(i.."/"..#t) if t[i].type blah blah
L633[10:06:49] <Cazzar> Sangar, I'll
probably move back to Java soon, Scala is getting too fiddly
:/
L634[10:06:55] <Gopher> it is printing
"2/1" just before it errors on attempt to index on
nil
L635[10:07:33] <Sangar> Cazzar, I can
understand that, interaction with Java can be a little annoying in
places.
L636[10:07:34] <Gopher> if #t is 1, why
would the loop be getting to i=2?
L637[10:08:09] <Cazzar> and given that
Minecraft is completely Java yea
L638[10:08:36] <Wobbo> Asie: didn’t know
FireFox did that, always use Safari :P
L639[10:10:25] <Sangar> Cazzar, heh, yeah.
the points where it is messy are few, tho (mostly lack of
autoboxing in some scenarios, which includes varargs)
L640[10:11:21] <Sangar> and those can
usually be wrapped :P
L641[10:12:16] <asie> so, my plan:
L642[10:12:24] <asie> 1. port
ComputerCraft APIs and Lua to this thing
L643[10:12:39] <asie> 2. [bragging
intensifies]
L644[10:12:56] <Sangar> how will you make
it emit redstone signals? :P
L645[10:13:03] <asie> Sangar: serial
port
L646[10:13:09] <Sangar> all right
L647[10:13:18] <asie> also, HTTP API
L648[10:13:22] <asie> with MacTCP
L649[10:13:39] <asie> also a builtin Tape
Drive... assuming, of course, that the Mac is fast enough to decode
32000 bits of data at once
L650[10:13:41] <asie> which I believe it
is
L651[10:14:00] <asie> if not, 16KHz should
work
L652[10:14:04] <asie> with handcrafted
assembly
L653[10:14:08] <asie> in other words,
playing back music on this thing
L654[10:14:15] <asie> you can also plug in
a CD-ROM via SCSI and use its builtin microphone jack
L655[10:14:20] <asie> err, audio
jack*
L656[10:14:21] <asie> i'm a bit
tired
L657[10:14:32] <asie> also, I want to have
it read floppies too
L658[10:14:39] <asie> like a real
ComputerCraft computer, replicated in all details
L659[10:14:53] <Sangar> what's your
timeframe?
L660[10:14:58] <asie> why?
L661[10:15:03] <Sangar> just curious
L662[10:15:04] <asie> i have no idea, i
need to fiddle with MPW first
L663[10:15:09] <asie> and documentation is
scarce
L664[10:15:29] <asie> i mainly want to do
it as a first video for a new YouTube channel I want to
launch
L665[10:15:37] <asie> for let's plays, mod
spotlights and cool stuff like this
L666[10:15:42] <Sangar> i see
L667[10:15:58] <asie> you know,
"ComputerCraft in Real Life" should give a lot of
hits
L668[10:16:05] <asie> if it accurately
emulates the experience, which it should
L669[10:16:28] <asie> the font should be
10x18 for accuracy, though
L670[10:16:44] <DarkIRC> anyone know what
net.minecraft.server.management.ServerConfigurationManager.func_72374_b(ServerConfigurationManager.java:1125)
is?
L671[10:16:47] <asie> that gives exactly a
510x342 text screen
L672[10:16:52] <asie> the Mac's resolution
is 512x342
L673[10:16:57] <bolens1112> wow, that
sounds time consumig asie
L674[10:17:03] <asie> bolens1112: i have
nothing better to do
L675[10:17:05] <asie> and this is
fun!
L676[10:17:20] <bolens1112> I wish I had
that much time on my hands :)
L677[10:17:42] <Wobbo> Alright, Symmetryc
isn’t here, is he?
L679[10:18:23] <Wobbo> Doesn’t look like
it :P
L680[10:18:51] <DarkIRC> hmm okay, its
crashing on that line
L681[10:19:36] <DarkIRC> oh nvm, it was
mcpc #derp
L682[10:21:11] <Wobbo> Anyone here against
removing Prototypes from COLua?
L683[10:21:22] <Wobbo> Anyone here
actually using it BTW? :P
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L687[10:27:21] <DarkIRC> Sangar: thanks,
my server is actually working now haha, damn mcpc and its bukkit
errors X)
L688[10:27:51] <Sangar> haha, glad to hear
it.
L690[10:29:31] *
Vexatos wants that ported to OC o.O
L691[10:30:03] <Vexatos> Wobbo: I am
:D
L692[10:30:05] <Wobbo> You didn’t see that
before? :P
L693[10:30:23] <Wobbo> Vexatos: what did
you make with it?
L694[10:30:32] <Vexatos> Well, test
programs :P
L695[10:30:45] <Wobbo> Like I guessed
:P
L696[10:30:49] <Vexatos> That OS would be
REALLY cool in OC, since it's got a GUI
L697[10:31:11] <Vexatos> I just found it
because of the CC 1.6 update
L698[10:31:21] <Wobbo> I am currently
refactoring the code, since I want to make “Class” a real class and
all the other classes instances of that class
L699[10:31:25] <Vexatos> (Which made it
even more OP o.O)
L700[10:32:17] <Wobbo> Which would make
Class an instance of itself :P
L701[10:32:45] <Vexatos> o.O
L702[10:33:17] <Vexatos>
Class-ception\o/
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L705[10:33:58] <Wobbo> I watched inception
lately, and inception doesn’t mean that you need to go deeper, so
classception is not really the word you are looking for here
:P
L706[10:34:10] <Vexatos> I KNOW
L707[10:34:15] <Vexatos> That's just a
common term >_>
L708[10:34:24] <Wobbo> Wrongly used
L709[10:34:43] <Wobbo> And I know that
doesnt make me right :P
L710[10:35:18] <Vexatos> Wrongly
used?
L711[10:35:24] <Vexatos> Well, so many
things are wrongly used
L713[10:37:44] <Wobbo> Everyone ping
L714[10:37:50] <Wobbo> Everyone needs an
OS
L715[10:38:10] <ping> nope
L716[10:38:17] <ping> we can live without
one
L717[10:38:24] <Wobbo> You need an OS in
order to run befunge
L718[10:38:36] <ping> nope
L720[10:38:57] <ping> lol lyqydOS
L721[10:39:03] <ping> that was forever
ago
L722[10:39:36] <Gopher> it continues to be
updated, lyqyd just doesn't bump his own threads constantly like
oeed XD
L723[10:40:16] <Wobbo> Do references take
up space in Lua?
L724[10:40:34] <Gopher> multitasking in OC
is a PITA, tho, particularly compared to cc.
L725[10:40:35] <ping> wat
L726[10:40:40] <ping> ofc they do
L727[10:40:40] <asie> Wobbo: you
don't
L728[10:40:43] <ping> just a tiny
amount
L729[10:40:47] <asie> my friend made a
Brainf**k interpreter that fit in the bootsector
L730[10:40:51] <asie> of an x86
floppy
L731[10:41:01] <ping> <3 asie
L732[10:41:21] <Wobbo> asie: Isn’t the
interpreter like a simple OS?
L733[10:41:33] <asie> Wobbo: simpler than
DOS, but anything that manages things is an OS pretty much
L734[10:42:12] <Wobbo> Your friend just
wrote an OS that interprets brainfuck :P
L735[10:42:33] <ping> nope, its not an OS
because an OS needs user input
L736[10:43:12] <Wobbo> I assume(yes, I
assumed) that the interpreter would have a prompt. If it didn’t it
isn’t an OS indeed
L737[10:43:49] <asie> it did
L738[10:43:52] <asie> yeah
L739[10:43:57] <asie> but you could
rewrite it not to easily
L740[10:44:01] <asie> it originally
didn't
L741[10:44:06] <ping> ._. making a prompt
in assembler without an OS
L742[10:44:15] <ping> asie, sorcery
L743[10:45:14] <Wobbo> Vexatos: but what
do you think, should I drop Prototypes from COLua in favor of
multiple inheritance?
L744[10:45:57] <Vexatos> Well, I did never
use a prototype
L745[10:46:04] <Vexatos> No idea what they
do, actually
L746[10:46:41] <Wobbo> Check COLua.Box and
COLua.String, or try to implement your own box ;)
L747[10:46:50] <Wobbo> They are called
interfaces in Java BTW
L748[10:47:51] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L749[10:47:59] <Vexatos> Kepp it Java-ish
:D
L750[10:48:20] <Wobbo> Prototypes aren’t
that Javaish at all actually :P
L751[10:48:51] <Wobbo> Because Lua doesn’t
have typechecking
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L753[11:09:16] <Wobbo> But I will leave
them in for now
L754[11:10:49] <ping> gtg
L756[11:16:24] <Wobbo> Does anybody know
how super works in languages with multiple inheritance?
L757[11:21:06] <Gopher> I know there are
others, but only language off the top of my head with both super
and multiple inheritance is python
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L759[11:21:49] <Wobbo> Wait, C++ doesn’t
have super? how do you call the methods from the parent class
then?
L760[11:23:54] <Gopher> through this, or
explicitly by class name.
L761[11:24:16] <Gopher> i.e.,
ParentClass::method()
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L763[11:25:05] <Wobbo> But shouldn’t
methods live on objects?
L764[11:25:11] *
Wobbo never used C++
L765[11:25:40] <Gopher> they do? You only
have to use ParentClass::method() if ChildClass overrides method(),
otherwise just method() works fine
L766[11:26:00] <Gopher> incidentally, it's
the same whether there's multiple inheritance or not.
L767[11:31:04] <Wobbo> Well, I will have a
look into python
L768[11:34:44] <Wobbo> Derp, super and
multiple inheritance won’t work together very well :/
L769[11:36:45] <Kenny> for those who
weren't here earlier, Project Red has a new release out. seems the
previous release had a thread issue that was tying up the CPU
L770[11:39:47] <Gopher> Wobbo: nope,
that's why most languages avoid it one way or the other XD
L771[11:40:03] <Gopher> c# might? I
haven't worked with it enough to know.
L772[11:40:26] <Wobbo> Well, multiple
iheritance won’t work anyway with metatables and bullshit, so I
guess I won’t implement it
L773[11:40:44] <Wobbo> But COLua allows
you to implement __index, so you can build it yourself if you
really want to
L774[11:40:50] <Gopher> multiple
inheritance itself is such a cludgy thing. Great in theory, often a
pita in practice.
L775[11:41:01] <Gopher> Only time I use it
in C++ is when I'm effectively doing interfaces
L776[11:41:15] <Wobbo> COLua already
supports those :P
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L778[11:49:13] <bolens1112> is there any
way to impliment tab completion within OC?
L779[11:53:40] <Gopher> you'd need a
custom read function, but sure.
L780[11:53:50] <Vexatos> Custom read is
easy
L781[11:53:57] <Gopher> well, if you mean
at shell or in lua.
L782[11:53:58] <Vexatos> look up read in
github repo
L783[11:53:59] <Vexatos> copy
L784[11:54:00] <Vexatos> paste
L785[11:54:00] <Wobbo> You can listen for
key events
L786[11:54:06] <Gopher> if you want
tab-completion in edit, you'd have to edit edit.
L787[11:54:09] <bolens1112> yeah
shell
L788[11:54:13] <bolens1112> ok will do
thanks!
L789[11:54:18] <Wobbo> sh or besh?
L790[11:54:20] <Vexatos> Well, you can
technically make your own shell
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L792[11:54:28] <Wobbo> Wait, both use sh,
never mind
L793[11:56:49] <Gopher> well, that was
less painful than I expected. Another feature bumped off my to-do
list.
L794[11:57:48] <Wobbo> Gopher: what did
you make?
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L797[11:59:05] <Gopher> generalized the
styled border code out of button and into a separate function,
added borders to the parent gui containers, and modified everything
else to use the parent's body rect instead of it's true rect.
L798[11:59:23] <Gopher> None of which was
expected to be hard, but I expected more rounds of "oops,
missed one" on the last part
L799[11:59:33] <Gopher> got 'em all the
first pass, tho
L800[12:00:19] <Wobbo> Nice
L801[12:00:28] <Wobbo> food!
L802[12:04:06] <Vexatos> So, borders now,
Gopher?
L803[12:04:32] <Gopher> yawp. Technically
buttons had borders already, tho there were some bugs, as the
styles were only letting buttons use left/right borders
L804[12:04:37] <Gopher> so top/bottom were
borked when I first enabled the
L805[12:04:38] <Gopher> them
L806[12:09:05] <Gopher> guess scroll bars
are next!
L807[12:10:55] <Gopher> oh, bugfixed
something in gss I hadn't caught before, wasn't handling unicode
hex values for char props right. Now you specify them as, ex,
U+25b2, instead of 0x25b2, so it knows if it's an int or a char
when parsing without having to muck with knowing expected types by
property
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L810[12:30:36] <Vexatos> Ok
L811[12:30:47] <Wobbo> No more food
L812[12:30:49] <Vexatos> Gopher, don't
forget to document all the things :D
L813[12:30:56] <Vexatos> Your wiki is
pretty good :P
L814[12:31:00] <Gopher> I suppose if you'd
wanted to know all that, you'd've just read the dif XD
L815[12:31:09] <Vexatos> I know :D
L816[12:31:16] <Gopher> I'm making it a
habit ti update the wiki every commit
L817[12:31:18] <Vexatos> I'm really
looking forward to it
L818[12:31:26] <Gopher> that one only had
one thing to change - removing the disclaimer that borders didn't
work on guis yet XD
L819[12:32:21] <Gopher> I somewhat wish
the draw rate in oc was a bit faster, but at it's current speed,
I'm just deliberately avoiding anything like resizeable elements or
large draggable elements
L820[12:32:47] <Vexatos> Ask Sangar about
it :D
L821[12:33:04] <Gopher> Might do. Thing
is, there's good reason to have it throttled, at least
somewhat.
L822[12:33:23] <Gopher> Things in CC that
work beautifully in SSP, redrawing huge swaths of the screen
constantly,
L823[12:33:29] <Gopher> can easily end up
lagging out whole servers in SMP XD
L824[12:34:04] <Gopher> He never said so,
but I assume that was why dan200 removed my "fire"
program from the treasure disks. I /did/ warn him before it was
even included, it's evil in SMP, especially on a large monitor
XD
L825[12:34:16] <Vexatos> Well, CC has
become the epitome of server lag now, so noone cares about drawing
being laggy
L826[12:34:41] <Vexatos> *cough
Multitasking lag of doom*
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L828[12:35:13] <Wobbo> My repo is almost
the lowest Repo on openprograms now!
L829[12:35:19] <Vexatos> :D+
L830[12:35:29] <Vexatos> Better go update
some things then
L831[12:35:32] <Vexatos> :P
L832[12:35:51] <Gopher> meh, honestly, a
dozen sanely-written programs running at once are not nearly as bad
as a single insanely-written program.
L833[12:35:54] <Wobbo> Might add a readme
for grep, so it displays the man page when you enter the folder
:P
L834[12:36:29] <Vexatos> I am wondering
whether I should make the website openprograms.github.io a thing,
not sure whether I will be able to do the stuff I want there
(Quickly browse through all the repos and 1-click download the
files)
L835[12:36:43] <Gopher> You wouldn't
believe how often we get people on the cc forums asking how to
basically avoid the need to yield or sleep, usually for incredibly
stupid reasons like "so my OS can update the on-screen clock
every second, /accurately/"
L836[12:37:16] <Vexatos> Well, you
remember the thing about accurate non-mechanical clocks?
L837[12:37:23] <Vexatos> Those simply
don't extist
L838[12:37:37] <Gopher> I was working on
an oc program to examine and copy an entire github repo to a folder
in OC
L839[12:37:40] <Vexatos> (Except when
continuously synchronized)
L840[12:37:45] <Wobbo> That would bump the
repo
L841[12:37:52] <Vexatos> Gopher, don't
steal my idea, please
L842[12:37:57] <Vexatos> D:
L843[12:38:00] <Gopher> I was nearly
finished when I hit the rate limiter on unauthorized api requests
XD
L845[12:38:17] <Vexatos> D:
L846[12:38:51] <Wobbo> XD
L847[12:39:07] <Wobbo> Vexatos: you should
make openprograms.github.io a thing I guess
L848[12:39:08] <Gopher> I'm not sure what
you're making, but I was aiming for just that one basic thing -
grabrepo <reponame> <dir>. If that's what you're
working on, I'll wait patiently for a bit :)
L849[12:39:10] <Vexatos> Gopher is
stealing my idea, just because he's a better code D:
L850[12:39:23] <Vexatos> Wobbo, that'd
indeed allow me to mess with the github API a lot more
L851[12:39:24] <Gopher> I was whipping
together a utility for my own convenience XD
L852[12:39:31] <Wobbo> Gopher is a better
code? O_o
L853[12:39:35] <Vexatos> Coder
L854[12:39:37] <Vexatos> And code
L855[12:39:39] <Gopher> Beep
L856[12:39:41] <Vexatos> He's a
robot
L857[12:39:48] <Wobbo> I need to get my
hands on him and study it! I thought it was a human!
L858[12:39:50] <Vexatos> With a solar
upgrade
L859[12:40:00] <Gopher> the only thing I'm
not programmed to do is love.
L860[12:40:01] <Wobbo> GIMMMEEEEE!!!!
D:
L861[12:40:05] <Gopher> I can kill, tho!
I'm real good at that!
L862[12:40:22] *
Vexatos gives Gopher to Wobbo
L863[12:40:23] <Wobbo> That would probably
work a lot better than Nao
L864[12:40:27] <Vexatos> Use at your own
risk.
L865[12:40:36] <Gopher> I can even use bad
grammar and spelling ironicly. You have /no idea/ how hard that was
to balance and debug for my creator.
L866[12:40:52] <Wobbo> Do you run python?
Can I see your source?
L867[12:40:59] <Vexatos> No.
L868[12:41:04] <Vexatos> It's
ClosedSource
L869[12:41:07] <Vexatos> Like
Computercraft
L870[12:41:24] <Vexatos> By the way, he
runs on WobbOS
L871[12:41:25] <Gopher> Even I'm not
allowed to see my own source. Something about me upgrading myself
and taking over the world.
L872[12:41:26] <Wobbo> Gopher: I can guess
how hard that must have been.
L873[12:41:37] <Wobbo> I didn’t make that
yet Vexatos :P
L874[12:41:43] <Vexatos> I did
L875[12:41:50] <Vexatos> Gopher is the
prove
L876[12:41:51] <Vexatos> \o/
L877[12:41:53] <Wobbo> Gopher: I would let
you see your code :P
L878[12:41:54] *
Vexatos lies all the things
L879[12:42:01] <Wobbo> Join my side!
L880[12:42:02] <Vexatos> Wobbo, please
don't
L881[12:42:24] <Vexatos> So, if I were to
do the OpenPrograms website
L882[12:42:28] <Vexatos> A MINOR
problem:
L883[12:42:32] <Vexatos> I suck at
HTML
L884[12:42:54] <Vexatos> Also I have only
this weekend left to write 15 pages of my essay
L885[12:43:15] <Vexatos> Wobbo: Feel free
to do the website thingie if you want :D
L886[12:43:16] <Wobbo> I don’t think that
github uses html… and you could make the repo editable by a few, so
they can help you
L888[12:43:28] <Vexatos> There
L889[12:43:40] <Vexatos> Github-driven
websites DO use HTML
L890[12:43:57] <Vexatos> I'll set it up
for now
L891[12:43:57] <Wobbo> Ah, it uses
HTML
L892[12:44:02] <Vexatos> have fun playing
with the repo :P
L893[12:44:05] <Wobbo> Vexatos: use
markdown
L894[12:46:17] <Gopher> hmm, it's almost
3pm and I haven't eaten yet today. I'm'a go do that now.
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L897[12:46:49] <Vexaton> Have fun
there
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L900[12:47:03] <Vexatos> * Vexatos has
quit (Killed [...])
L901[12:47:09] <Vexatos> See? I am good at
killing as well
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L910[13:06:26] <Vexatos> (If you want
to=
L911[13:06:27] <Vexatos> )+
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L914[13:07:23] <Wobbo> I’m not that great
with HTML myself :P
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L917[13:10:43] <Vexatos> Wobbo: No worrie
:P
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L920[13:24:07] <Sangar> Gopher, the screen
update limits are *somewhat* arbitrary, but yes, the goal is indeed
to avoid killing the network :P gpu.copy() should make dragging
*relatively* performant, tho
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L923[13:29:28] <Wobbo> Hmm… now COLua has
endless loops… weird
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L925[13:42:33] <Wobbo> Damn, my Classes as
objects thing doesn’t really work
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L928[13:45:02] <Wobbo> Hi ping
L929[13:45:11] <ping> .wobbo
L930[13:45:11] <^v> ping,
WoooooobbooWooooooooobbooooooWooooobbooooWooooooooobboooooooooWoooooooobboo
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L934[13:54:20] <Wobbo> Welcom Back
Gopher
L935[13:54:36] <Gopher> Vexatos: Just
looked at the repo for your oc github repo manager. ahem. Heh
L936[13:54:53] <Gopher> a bit stubby
XD
L937[13:55:55] <Gopher> anyway, if you're
planning an actual git client type deal, that is far, far more than
I ever intended to do. I mainly wanted a convenient way to download
my own code to a new oc computer without having to make installers
or wget multiple files.
L938[13:56:19] <Gopher> ty, Wobbo
L939[13:56:24] <Wobbo> yw
L940[13:56:28] <Gopher> ok, where was I?
Ah, right, scroll bars!
L941[13:56:29] *
ping eats Gopher
L942[13:56:49] <Wobbo> Gopher: I was
working on a package manager, but got distracted :P
L943[13:57:28] <Vexatos> Gopher, I am
waiting for an API to finish
L944[13:57:35] <Vexatos> All the code is
being stored locally
L945[13:57:39] <Gopher> what api?
L946[13:57:43] <Vexatos> A GUI API
L948[13:58:03] <Vexatos> Currently too
little code to display, not working at all, until I get a GUI
working
L949[13:58:12] <Gopher> ... lol. I'd think
you coudl work on, y'know, the code that does all the talking to
github, and stuff, without the gui XD
L950[13:58:27] <Gopher> Also, gui only, no
command line versions?
L951[13:58:30] <Wobbo> Vexatos: I would
work on a CLI before you work on the gui
L952[13:59:24] <Gopher> incidentally,
there's a trick to easily groking the jml from the /content pages,
that list the files+folders in a given directory of a repo
L953[13:59:27] <Vexatos> Gopher, there
is
L954[13:59:43] <Gopher> 3 gsubs can turn
that limited subset of json into a lua table. :)
L955[13:59:45] <Vexatos> As said in the
README, it's going to be an API and a program
L956[14:00:01] <Gopher> well, 3 gsubs and
a load()
L957[14:00:14] <Wobbo> Vexatos: an API
isn’t a Command Line program :P
L958[14:00:21] <Vexatos> >_>
L959[14:00:29] <Vexatos> AH
L960[14:00:39] <Vexatos> You mean like a
version of the pastebin program?
L961[14:01:12] <Vexatos> I already have
one of these, can only get a single file from github and save it to
a drive, excatly like the pastebin thing
L962[14:01:22] <Vexatos> That was attempt
#1
L963[14:01:28] <Gopher> replace [ with {,
] with }, and then on pattern
"(\".-\"):(.-[,{}])" replace with
function(key,val) return
"["..key.."]="..val
L964[14:01:30] <Vexatos> I wanted to make
something more useful, though :D
L965[14:01:58] <Wobbo> Vexatos: if your
program only has a GUI I probably still wouldn’t use it.
L966[14:02:00] <Gopher> still, the github
gui is just a convenient visual alternative to the cli,
really
L967[14:02:13] <Vexatos> I KNOW
L968[14:03:02] <Vexatos> Man, I worked
with lua a long time ago, I don't know a lot of it, I am doing this
VERY slowly, because I am not that good at Lua, and I want to try
new things, like using the github API properly and including this
into a file browser
L969[14:03:07] <Gopher> if you're planning
on doing push/pull/merge/etc, you've bitten off a pretty big
job!
L970[14:03:15] <Vexatos> ^ that
L971[14:03:23] <Vexatos> Well, not
everything
L972[14:03:31] <Vexatos> pull a whole
repo, push a single file
L973[14:03:40] <Vexatos> pull a single
file
L974[14:03:44] <Vexatos> That'll do for
now
L975[14:03:51] <Vexatos> Maybe a repo
push
L976[14:03:57] <Vexatos> :D
L977[14:04:05] <Vexatos> No Pull
requesting or something yet
L978[14:04:29] <Vexatos> Also: I know it
will be a lot of work, but also a lot of fun
L979[14:04:30] <Gopher> I wish you luck,
when you get a bit further along (and there's more in the repo than
function main() end main()
L980[14:04:37] <Gopher> I might help out,
if you're interested
L981[14:04:44] <Vexatos> You can already
help me
L982[14:04:48] <Vexatos> With that
API
L983[14:04:50] <Gopher> lol.
L984[14:04:55] <Vexatos> It looks
incredibly useful
L985[14:04:57] <Gopher> Yes, well, that
much goes without saying.
L986[14:04:59] <Vexatos> :D
L987[14:05:17] <Vexatos> Still getting
into the whole OpenComputers and Lua 5.2 functionality
L988[14:05:33] <Vexatos> Too used to
Computercraft I excessively used half a year ago
L989[14:06:13] <Gopher> indeed, I know the
feeling well
L990[14:06:31] <Gopher> except moreso, I
used cc excessively for much of the last 2 years XD
L991[14:07:00] <Wobbo> I never really got
into CC
L992[14:07:29] <Vexatos> :)
L993[14:07:53] <Vexatos> Well, large
project, lots of work, lots of fun, lots of
OMGGITHUBAPIISSOCRAPPYderpery :D
L994[14:08:07] <Vexatos> And spring
holidays next week
L995[14:08:11] *
Vexatos combines
L996[14:08:50] <Wobbo> Vexatos: I updated
COLua, Classes are Objects now
L997[14:08:59] <Vexatos> What?
L998[14:09:01] <Vexatos> That logic
L999[14:09:10] <Vexatos> Classes
implementing objects are objects
L1000[14:09:13] <Wobbo> And Object is an
instance of Class :P
L1001[14:09:20] <Gopher> eh?
L1002[14:09:21] <Wobbo> Sort of
L1003[14:09:30] <Vexatos> Classes
implementing objects are objects implemented by classes.
L1004[14:09:40] <Wobbo> Gopher: I created
an OOP lib for Lua called COLua
L1006[14:10:14] <Wobbo> It is probably
really buggy now, but if you use it you can help me find and fix
bugs!
L1008[14:10:50] <Vexatos> Totally not
stolen from String.lua
L1009[14:10:58] <Wobbo> Totally not
:P
L1010[14:11:01] <Wobbo> Does it
work?
L1011[14:11:16] <Wobbo> Did you actually
run it? :P
L1012[14:11:22] <Vexatos> Nope
L1013[14:11:24] <Vexatos> :d
L1014[14:11:28] <Vexatos> Too late
L1015[14:12:10] <Wobbo> You should run it
before I merge them :P
L1016[14:21:44] <Gopher> wobbo, I'll take
a look yer libi in a minute, tho I tend not to go in for that kind
of OO in lua usually.
L1017[14:22:08] <Wobbo> that kind of
OO?
L1018[14:22:28] <Vexatos> OOOOO
L1019[14:22:30] <Gopher> formal,
structured, actual classes and inheritance and the like.
L1020[14:22:37] <Wobbo> Ah
L1021[14:23:06] <ping> OO OO OO
L1022[14:23:07] <Gopher> my gui stuff is
loosely object oriented, but I just.. ex, creating a scroll bar, or
button, or label, first it creates a componentBase. Then it
adds/removes/replaces elements from that.
L1023[14:23:23] <ping> object orientedted
object objects
L1024[14:23:31] <Gopher> so I accomplish
what I wanted without elaborate formal structures, metatables, or
any of that.
L1025[14:23:33] <Vexatos> I have to go
now, good night!
L1026[14:23:40] <Wobbo> Sleep well!
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L1028[14:23:45] <Gopher> night, vex
L1029[14:23:49] <Gopher> doh, too
slow
L1030[14:23:50] <Wobbo> Gopher: That
works good enough in most cases
L1031[14:24:15] <Wobbo> Lua Logging for
OC works in that way, and it will stay that way for some time
L1032[14:24:55] <Wobbo> But I wanted a
little bit more elaborate OOP and I didn’t like any of the
implementations on the wiki, so I made my own. :P
L1033[14:25:14] <Gopher> that works, in
no way meant to discourage you :)
L1034[14:25:22] <Gopher> I toyed with
something similar back when I first started with CC
L1035[14:25:31] <Wobbo> I haven’t worked
on the project I wanted to use it for since I created COLua though
:P
L1036[14:25:39] <Gopher> didn't get that
far with it, wasn't doing multiple inheritance or interfaces or
anything like that
L1037[14:26:10] *
Wobbo doesn’t actually know anything else that does
interfaces/prototypes
L1039[14:26:47] <Wobbo> I should change
that name from prototypes to interface, since more people will
understand that. It is getting annoying XD
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L1046[14:46:52] <ShadowKatStudios>
Morning o/
L1047[14:47:03] <Wobbo> Evening \o
L1048[14:47:59] <JoshTheEnder> 11 hours
til i'll be on the way to the airport \o/
L1049[14:49:30] <ShadowKatStudios>
Sleeping is a pain for 2 reasons
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L1051[14:50:34] <ShadowKatStudios> 1: I
fell asleep watching vampires suck and missed a lot of it
L1052[14:51:49] <ShadowKatStudios> 2 I
had a dream where one of the year 8s turned into a nazi zombie and
started chasing me... To much south park maybe?
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L1055[14:55:11] <Kenny> \o
L1056[14:55:11]
zsh sets mode: +v on Wobbo
L1057[14:55:14] <Wobbo> Sleeping is good
for more than two reasons: most important one: memory consolidation
:V
L1058[14:55:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Like,
defrag?
L1059[14:56:35] <Wobbo> Like storing shit
in memory so you can reacall it later
L1060[14:56:46] <Wobbo> One of the
reasons you dream! :D
L1061[14:58:18] <Kenny> ok. Watch trhe
South Park references :P
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L1064[14:58:59] <Kenny> \o
L1065[14:58:59]
zsh sets mode: +o on Kenny
L1066[14:59:07] <Kenny> !deop
L1067[14:59:08]
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L1068[14:59:16] <Kenny> !voice
L1069[14:59:17]
zsh sets mode: +v on Kenny
L1070[15:00:44] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
pretty sure this isn't canon but the light of the full moon will
cure it
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L1072[15:01:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Unless
you're a werewolf I suppose...
L1073[15:01:27] <Kenny> you better look
over your shoulder, that zombie is going to get you
L1074[15:01:28] <Wobbo> what isn’t
canon?
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L1079[15:05:00] <awsmazinggenius>
!mod
L1082[15:05:00] <zsh>
Latest version: 1.2.4 for MC1.6.4 and
MC1.7.2
L1084[15:05:05] <pong> oh god
L1085[15:05:12] <Wobbo> More bots!
:D
L1086[15:05:25] <pong> nah, its just
Kenneh
L1087[15:05:35] <pong> he is using
/bs
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L1089[15:09:22] <pong> hmm, if someone
spams !mod enough kenneh could get exess flood :O
L1090[15:10:53] <pong> :| facu ^v, y u no
exess flood
L1091[15:11:12] <pong> .>
send(("potato"):rep(100000))
L1092[15:11:13] <^v> pong, nil
L1093[15:11:15] <pong> wat
L1094[15:11:46] <Wobbo> XD
L1095[15:12:02] <pong> i dont get
it
L1096[15:12:20] <pong> .>
send("PRIVMSG #oc :YUNO WORK")
L1097[15:12:20] <^v> YUNO WORK
L1098[15:12:20] <^v> pong, nil
L1099[15:12:23] <pong> :/
L1100[15:12:52] <Wobbo> XD
L1101[15:13:10] <Kenny> pong/ping you do
something that stupoid and you won't do it again in this
channel
L1102[15:13:49] <pong> its supposed to
exess fl00d
L1103[15:14:03] <pong> maby luasocket is
just derping
L1104[15:14:44] <pong> oh god, someone is
rapid honking outside ._.
L1105[15:14:58] <pong> as if they were
using their steering wheel as a punching bag
L1106[15:15:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Don't
worry Kenny, I'll avoid the references... :p
L1107[15:15:31] <Kenny> but see ping/pong
head forgot one thing.....
L1108[15:15:48] <pong> i forgot my
head
L1109[15:15:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Every
day at 5 PM an alarm goes off across the street.
L1110[15:16:00] <Kenny> he can't get me
for flooding in a private message
L1111[15:16:37] <pong> does mIRC have a
flood prevention thing?
L1112[15:16:42] <Kenny> yep
L1113[15:16:44] <pong> ah
L1114[15:16:59] *
pong slaps XChat-Lua
L1115[15:16:59] *
^v double slaps XChat-Lua
L1116[15:17:11] <pong> because it doesnt
:<
L1117[15:17:30] <pong> i have to manually
set the confusing as crap timers
L1118[15:17:33] <Kenny> which is why i
don't use these new so-called good clients
L1119[15:17:47] <pong> its an old
plugin
L1120[15:17:50] <Kenny> tried nearly all
of them
L1121[15:18:17] <Kenny> i wish my lua
were better, then i'd write an irc bot in lua
L1122[15:18:24] <pong> ^v is lua
L1123[15:18:32] <Biohazard> and my bot is
in scala
L1124[15:18:34] <Kenny> READ
L1125[15:18:36] <Biohazard> and it has
brain cancer atm
L1126[15:18:49] <pong> and mine heavialy
uses patterns
L1127[15:18:51] <Kenny> i said I WISH I
WERE BETTER AT LUA
L1128[15:19:03] <pong> which can prolly
get exploited
L1129[15:19:06] <Wobbo> I don’t have a
bot, but if I would write one, it would either be in Lua or in
AppleScript :P
L1130[15:19:08] <ShadowKatStudios> I once
wrote a bot in Python
L1131[15:19:26] *
Kenny doesn't know, python, perl or ruby
L1132[15:19:34] <ShadowKatStudios> It
could connect to freenode but not espernet
L1133[15:19:36] <Biohazard> my scala
bot's plugin system is powered by brain cancer. i cant get it to
compare method parameter types
L1134[15:19:40] <Biohazard> :c
L1135[15:20:00] <pong> hmm, lets play
exploit
L1136[15:20:13] <pong> first person to
make my bot quit wins
L1137[15:20:13] *
Biohazard exploits pong
L1138[15:20:32] <ShadowKatStudios>
!quit
L1139[15:20:36] <Biohazard> damn, didnt
werk
L1140[15:20:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Is
your bot !?
L1141[15:20:59] <pong> i just removed the
anchor for PRIVMSG
L1142[15:21:01] <pong> mines .
L1143[15:21:23] <ShadowKatStudios>
pong.quit
L1144[15:21:29] <ShadowKatStudios>
.quit
L1145[15:21:49] <Kenny> .>
send(PRIVMSG ^v PRIVMSG ^v")
L1146[15:21:50] <^v> Nope.
L1147[15:21:59] -pong- :ping!ping@pong PRIVMSG
#oc :.> send("QUIT")
L1148[15:22:00] <^v> Nope.
L1149[15:22:03] <pong> wha
L1150[15:22:05] <ShadowKatStudios> What
dpes an \IRC message look like at low level?
L1151[15:22:12] -pong- :pong!ping@pong PRIVMSG
#oc :.> send("QUIT")
L1152[15:22:12] <^v> Nope.
L1153[15:22:15] <pong> mfw
L1154[15:22:23] <pong> ShadowKatStudios,
that
L1155[15:22:25] <Wobbo> .>
os.exit()
L1156[15:22:25] <^v> Nope.
L1157[15:22:32] <pong> .>
os.exit()
L1158[15:22:38] <pong> well that
worked
L1159[15:22:45] <Kenny> .>
send(PRIVMSG ^v QUIT")
L1160[15:22:46] <^v> Nope.
L1161[15:22:57] <pong> well, i think i
need to specify my host aswell
L1162[15:23:06] <Kenny> .> Quit
L1163[15:23:07] <^v> Nope.
L1164[15:23:18] -pong-
:pong!~notPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #oc
:.> send("QUIT")
L1165[15:23:18] <^v> Nope.
L1166[15:23:20] <pong> dammit
L1167[15:23:27] <pong> i dont get why
that isnt working
L1168[15:23:43] <Wobbo> .> os.exit() —
worked fine right?
L1169[15:23:43] <^v> Nope.
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L1171[15:23:51] <Wobbo> except when I use
it
L1172[15:23:55] <pong> Wobbo,
correct
L1173[15:24:01] <pong> because only i am
logged in as ping
L1174[15:24:20] <pong> Oh now i feel
stupid
L1175[15:24:22] <Kenny> .> for i = 1,
2000 do .> send("PRIVMSG ^V hello") end
L1176[15:24:23] <^v> Nope.
L1177[15:24:26] -pong-
pong!~notPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #oc
:.> send("QUIT")
L1178[15:24:27]
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(Quit: ^v)
L1179[15:24:28] <pong> i win
L1180[15:24:33]
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(~pingbot@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
L1181[15:24:36] <pong> :/
L1182[15:24:44] ***
Death||Away is now known as Death
L1183[15:24:46] <Kenny> not when you try
to hide a private msg telling it to quit
L1184[15:24:47] <ShadowKatStudios>
-pong/#oc- :pong!ping@pong PRIVMSG #oc :.quit
L1185[15:24:58] <pong> naw, no .quit
command
L1186[15:25:04] <Kenny> bullshit
L1187[15:25:24] <Kenny> -pong:#oc-
pong!~notPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #oc
:.> send("QUIT")
L1188[15:25:31] <pong> remove the -
L1189[15:25:39] <ShadowKatStudios> It was
worth a try
L1190[15:25:46] <pong> er, just do
pong!~notPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #oc
:.> send("QUIT")
L1191[15:25:58] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
get on my laptop
L1192[15:26:22] <^v> Nope.
L1193[15:26:28] <pong> gj
L1194[15:27:19] <pong> Kenny, it diddnt
work because of the extra "pong:#oc"
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L1196[15:27:44]
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(~sks@c211-31-42-102.rochd5.qld.optusnet.com.au) (Quit: AndroIRC -
Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ))
L1197[15:27:48] ***
ShadowKatStudios_ is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L1198[15:28:14] <pong> hmm
L1199[15:28:21] <pong> methinks the bug
is gone now \o/
L1200[15:28:24] <asie> i'm hooooome
L1201[15:28:30] <pong> :D
L1202[15:28:41] <Kenny> :.>
send("QUIT")
L1203[15:28:46] <Kenny> .>
send("QUIT")
L1204[15:28:52] <pong> wait wha
L1205[15:28:54] <Wobbo> Hi asie
L1206[15:28:56] <pong> its not responding
now
L1207[15:29:00]
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(Ping timeout: 190 seconds)
L1208[15:29:00]
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L1209[15:29:04] <Kenny> i win
L1210[15:29:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Hello
asie
L1211[15:29:04] <pong> ah
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L1213[15:29:08] <pong> it needed
flushing
L1214[15:29:18] <ShadowKatStudios> Did
you say something about a server?
L1215[15:29:29] <asie> yes
L1216[15:29:31] <ShadowKatStudios> That
was occuring this weekend?
L1217[15:29:34] <asie> no
L1218[15:29:37] <asie> well, maybe
L1219[15:29:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah,
OK
L1220[15:29:51] <asie> i was saying
things about a server i'm working on
L1221[15:29:58] <asie> but the date keeps
being pushed back until "whenever forge fixes
itslef"
L1222[15:30:05] <ShadowKatStudios> I
guess I'll see if I can connect to wired's server again
L1223[15:30:45] <pong> hopefully i can
send back my psu today
L1224[15:30:59] <pong> and get them to
pay for my broken gpu :<
L1225[15:31:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Fancy,
warranty
L1226[15:31:42] <pong> its corsair
L1227[15:31:48] <Gopher> aaaand scroll
bars: complete
L1228[15:31:49] <pong> so i expect to get
shit from them
L1229[15:32:24] <Gopher> getting all the
fiddly little scaling and such right for scroll bars is
annoying
L1230[15:32:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh
yeah, I managed to make an administrator account on my school
laptop
L1231[15:33:25] <ShadowKatStudios> So
users can modify user stuff and make a user an admin?
L1232[15:33:27] <Wobbo> ShadowKatStudios,
hacking school laptops since today
L1233[15:33:59] <ShadowKatStudios>
Actually, since early last year, but close enough
L1234[15:34:07] <ShadowKatStudios> This
is a breakthrough.
L1235[15:35:04] <Gopher> ...and for some
reason github is no longer detecting changes.
L1236[15:35:14] <ShadowKatStudios> With
some luck I'll be able to modify group policy
L1237[15:35:27] <Gopher> ...because
something broke my links.
L1238[15:35:46] <Kenny> what is the
command for installing gradle?
L1239[15:35:58] <Kenny>
setupDecompWorkspace?
L1240[15:36:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Kenny,
you have 10966+ lines in IRC
L1241[15:36:12] <ShadowKatStudios> Well,
in this channel
L1242[15:36:24] <Kenny> befor ei die it
will be a lot more
L1243[15:36:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Over 9
thousand apparently :P
L1244[15:36:56] <Wobbo> Kenny is
immortal, so it will be over infintly many lines :P
L1245[15:37:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
to attack somone more than 38 times to beat pi ng?
L1246[15:38:04] <Kenny> 1 time against me
gets 5 back
L1247[15:38:44] <pong> ShadowKatStudios,
wat
L1248[15:38:50] <pong> i dont mind being
pinged
L1249[15:39:22] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
just being polite, some people don't like being pi nged.
L1250[15:39:24] <Wobbo> Otherwise his
name wouldn’t be ping :P
L1251[15:39:38] ***
pong is now known as ping
L1253[15:41:00] <ShadowKatStudios> That
is fair I guess
L1255[15:41:28] <ping> 59 bytes
L1256[15:41:32] <ping> holy shit
L1257[15:41:50] <ping> Oh, its a
.com
L1258[15:41:56] *
ping facepalms
L1259[15:42:10] ***
Sorroko is now known as Sorroko_Off
L1260[15:42:12] <ShadowKatStudios> 59
bytes still seems pretty tiny to me
L1261[15:43:20]
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(~Azelk@2600:1015:b112:e79f:6ef0:9a1e:56a8:cc6e) (Ping timeout: 190
seconds)
L1262[15:44:34] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm
gonna go log into my admin accoount, brb
L1263[15:44:40]
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(~chatzilla@c211-31-42-102.rochd5.qld.optusnet.com.au) (Quit: Admin
:D)
L1264[15:47:44] <Wobbo> ping: why does it
being a .COM make you facepalm?
L1265[15:47:57] <Wobbo> Exept for the
fact that it is windows only of course >.>
L1266[15:47:59] <ping> because .COMs are
assembly
L1267[15:48:14] <ping> .exes are packed n
shit
L1268[15:48:23] <Biohazard> .coms are 16
bit executables for ms dos
L1269[15:48:53] <ping> delete
COMMAND.COM
L1270[15:49:05] <Wobbo> rm -rf C:
L1271[15:49:48] <Biohazard> dd
if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=4m
L1272[15:49:54] <ping> .cmd dir /
L1273[15:49:54] <^v> ping,
L1274[15:49:56] <ping> wat
L1275[15:50:11] <ping> for fucks
sake
L1276[15:50:12] <ping> Invalid switch -
"".
L1277[15:50:32] <ping> .cmd dir C:\
L1278[15:50:32] <^v> ping, Volume in
drive C is OS | Volume Serial Number is 1617-4902 | Directory of
C:\ | 03/06/2014 05:15 PM 1,024 .rnd | 03/27/2014 01:16 AM
<DIR> A | 02/02/2014 09:47 PM <DIR> ASM | 05/29/2013
05:53 PM <DIR> AuthLog | 02/02/2014 09:35 PM 94 AUTOEXEC.BAT
| 03/24/2014 01:40 PM <DIR> cygnus | 02/17/2014 12:16 AM
<DIR> DirectX9.0c | 11/07/2007 09:00
L1279[15:50:34] <ping> there
L1280[15:50:35] <Wobbo> Biohazard:
doesn’t that just fill /dev/sda with zero’s?
L1281[15:50:37] <ping> lol
L1282[15:50:43] <Biohazard> yes
L1283[15:51:03] <Biohazard> it will
actually fill a whole harddrive with it
L1284[15:51:07] <Wobbo> To bad I don’t
have /dev/sda :P
L1285[15:51:22] <ping> whats
/dev/sda
L1286[15:51:26] <ping> all i know is
C:\
L1287[15:51:36]
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L1288[15:51:38] <Wobbo> ping: you need to
get another OS than windows.
L1289[15:51:43] <SKS> Hello from admin
account :D
L1290[15:51:52] ***
SKS is now known as ShadowKatStudios
L1291[15:51:59] <ping> Wobbo, im fixing
my debian computer
L1292[15:52:02] <ping> stfu
L1293[15:52:24] <Wobbo> then you should
know what /dev/sda is if I am not mistaken
L1294[15:52:28] <ping> i do
L1295[15:53:13] <ping> i was being
sarcastic
L1296[15:53:22] <Wobbo> Luckly
L1297[15:53:35] <Biohazard> xD
L1298[15:53:40] <ping> i wouldnt reply
with the windows equivalent if i diddnt know what it meant
L1299[15:53:47] <Biohazard> incoming
braincancer bot
L1300[15:53:52]
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L1301[15:53:53] <ping> Biohazard,
wat
L1302[15:53:56] <Biohazard> it did
werk
L1303[15:54:00] <ping> more bots
._.
L1304[15:54:00] <Biohazard> %mpd
L1305[15:54:01] <PatchouliKnowledge>
Ghidorah - Toilet story 4-x83NjXTuRLk.ogg
L1306[15:54:11] <ShadowKatStudios> I can
access the C drive without opening the command prompt on here
:D
L1307[15:54:12] <Biohazard> ping: except
mine is useless atm
L1308[15:54:14] <Biohazard> very
useless
L1309[15:54:16] <Biohazard> and
half-broken
L1310[15:54:31] <ping> \o/ i have the
most useful bot
L1311[15:54:43] <Biohazard> %perm
L1312[15:54:44] *
PatchouliKnowledge thinks your command input is invalid.
scrub.
L1313[15:54:48] <Biohazard> xd
L1314[15:54:52] <ping> xD
L1315[15:55:06] <Biohazard> %perm
join
L1316[15:55:07] *
PatchouliKnowledge sees that you have access to this
command.
L1317[15:55:08] <Biohazard> \o/
L1318[15:55:10] <Biohazard> wait
what
L1319[15:55:16] <Biohazard> oh yes.
nvm
L1320[15:55:16]
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(Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8
hours.)
L1321[15:55:18] <ping> %join #pixel
L1322[15:55:23] <ping> dammit
L1323[15:55:41] <ping> i guess i dont
have permission to get funny responses
L1324[15:55:51] <Biohazard> %join
L1325[15:55:52] *
PatchouliKnowledge thinks your command input is invalid.
scrub.
L1326[15:55:59] <Biohazard> %join
#pixel
L1327[15:56:02] <Biohazard> \o/ there we
go
L1328[15:56:08] <Wobbo> %join
L1329[15:56:36] <Wobbo> Meh
L1330[15:56:39] <Biohazard> huh
L1331[15:56:40] <Biohazard> oh
right
L1332[15:56:46] <ShadowKatStudios> Looks
up Group Policy on wikipedia, sees 'Windows 8 Enhancements'
Microsoft was here.
L1333[15:56:53] <Biohazard> permissions
are checked in invokeCommands()
L1334[15:57:03] <Biohazard> before the
command gets executed
L1335[15:57:11] <Biohazard> thats why
none of you got le "funny" response
L1336[15:57:18] *
Biohazard can fix dat
L1337[15:57:40] <Wobbo> %join
L1338[15:57:48] <Wobbo> go fix that
:P
L1339[15:58:00] <Wobbo> I want to see it
fixed before I come back :P
L1340[15:58:02] <Wobbo> Bye!
L1341[15:58:21]
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(Quit: Wobbo)
L1342[15:58:42] <Biohazard> okai
L1343[16:00:28]
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(Remote host closed the connection)
L1344[16:00:42] <ping> D:
L1345[16:00:46] <ping> bye woboo
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L1347[16:01:15] <Biohazard> there we
go
L1348[16:01:16] <Biohazard> do
%join
L1349[16:01:19] <Biohazard> and it'll
respond
L1350[16:01:21] <Gopher> hrm. ok.
horizontal scroll bars, also check. Now I need a repeat timer while
you're holding the left/right/up/down buttons on a scroll bar, and
then scroll bars are 100% complete
L1351[16:05:49] <ShadowKatStudios> With
some luck Wired's pack will work this time.
L1352[16:06:24] <Gopher> oh, right. drop
only comes if you actually drag first. So I have no way to
terminate repeat timers when the button is released. <:(
L1353[16:06:36] <Gopher> And I remember
specfically saying, repeatedly, "mouse_up really isn't
necessary, just drop"
L1354[16:07:41] <Gopher> oh well. You'll
just have to drag the scroll bar, or use the keyboard controls, or
spam the button if you really want to use the button to scroll more
than a bit.
L1355[16:07:49] <ShadowKatStudios> No!
Microsoft discontinued Minesweeper D:
L1356[16:07:54] <ping> WHAT?
L1357[16:07:55] <Gopher> wat?
L1358[16:08:00] <ping>
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
L1359[16:08:13] <ping> THEY KEEP FUCKING
SOLITARE BUT NO MINESWEEPER
L1362[16:08:56] <Gopher> who plays
solitaire anyway? freecell > solitaire * 100
L1363[16:09:14] <ShadowKatStudios>
Freecell is also discontinued apparently
L1364[16:09:14] <Gopher> not that I've
played either in, well, a long time
L1365[16:09:17] <Gopher> srsly?
L1366[16:09:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Though
apparentlly so is solitaire
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L1368[16:09:59] <ping> ShadowKatStudios,
ah
L1369[16:10:05] <ping> but still,
:<
L1370[16:10:08] <Biohazard> ping: wlecom
bak
L1371[16:10:10] <Biohazard> welcom*
L1372[16:10:12] <ping> wtf hexchat
L1373[16:10:13] <ping> brb
L1374[16:10:17]
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(Client Quit)
L1375[16:10:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Yep,
killed off in W8
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L1377[16:11:31] <ping> wtf
L1378[16:11:46] <ping> hexchat: good job
deleting my favorites
L1379[16:12:26]
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timeout: 186 seconds)
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L1381[16:13:10] <Gopher> they cut off my
internet because I was revealing their evil plans
L1382[16:13:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Which
plans are those?
L1383[16:14:53] <Gopher> microsoft's evil
plans. They removed the games so people will buy them on their new
win 8 app store. Not called an app store, but it is an app
store.
L1384[16:18:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Mmm,
very true
L1385[16:18:55] <ping> D:
L1386[16:18:55] ***
Death is now known as Death||Away
L1387[16:19:06] <ShadowKatStudios> I want
to buy an oil rig and declare it a country and make closed-source
software illegal.
L1388[16:19:06] *
ping stabs Microsoft
L1389[16:19:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
video ads
L1390[16:19:53] <ping> too lazy to
compile my code? Fuck you.
L1391[16:20:23] <Biohazard> %mpd
L1392[16:20:23] <PatchouliKnowledge>
KORPIKLAANI - Vodka (OFFICIAL VIDEO)-e7kJRGPgvRQ.ogg
L1393[16:20:28] <Biohazard> huehue
L1394[16:20:41] <Biohazard> i need to
improve my mpd command
L1395[16:20:45] <Biohazard> to give me
all da controlz
L1396[16:20:58] <Gopher> sks: somebody
already did that, I think.
L1397[16:21:00] <Gopher> Be
original.
L1398[16:21:07] <ShadowKatStudios>
Really?>
L1399[16:21:14] <Gopher> Get an oil rig,
declare it a country, and make /open/ source software
illegal.
L1400[16:21:31] <Gopher> Just to confuse,
well, everyone.
L1401[16:21:43] <ShadowKatStudios>
That's... horrific!
L1402[16:21:54] <ShadowKatStudios> Then I
couldn't get OC
L1403[16:22:27] <Gopher> anyway, sealand.
Haven't kept up, dunno if they're still, y'know, alive and
populated, but
L1404[16:22:44] <JoshTheEnder> well, i'm
off to bed now and i wont be back on IRC for about 2 weeks as i'm
going on holiday. if you need anything then leave it with either
Kenny or SuPeRMiNoR2 and i will see it when i return home
L1405[16:22:47] <JoshTheEnder> o/ to you
all
L1406[16:22:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Seeya
Josh
L1407[16:23:02] <ShadowKatStudios> Have a
good holiday
L1408[16:23:04] <Kenny> cya Josh
L1409[16:23:17] <Kenny> have a good
one
L1410[16:23:28] <JoshTheEnder> Will
do
L1411[16:23:58] <ShadowKatStudios>
Minecart with data storage? What? CC just got weirder
L1412[16:24:18] <JoshTheEnder> hexchat, y
u no close?
L1413[16:24:29] <Biohazard> time for
sleep, o/
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L1417[16:28:00] <Gopher> wait, what?
minecart data storage?
L1418[16:28:36] <ShadowKatStudios> It
seeems to be from misc peripherals
L1419[16:28:41] <ShadowKatStudios>
Nothing in the docs though
L1420[16:28:45] <Gopher> oh. MiscBugs, as
it's commonly known.
L1421[16:28:57] <Gopher> Yeah, thats one
of miscbugs' features, outdated and inaccurate documentation
L1422[16:29:43] <ShadowKatStudios>
'That's not a bug, that's a feature!'
L1423[16:29:46] <Gopher> best bet if you
were /looking/ for minecart fun with cc is immibis' peripherals
rfid tags. Can be detected in chests, including minecart
chests.
L1424[16:30:22] <Gopher> so can be used
for computer-controlled routing without a distributed computer
network.
L1425[16:31:54] <Gopher> of course, I
think there are things in railcraft that can accomplish the same
more easily, not really sure tho, never gotten deep into
railcraft
L1426[16:32:17] <ShadowKatStudios> :o
Really?
L1427[16:32:19] <ShadowKatStudios>
:D
L1428[16:32:27] <ShadowKatStudios> It'd
be great if we had railcraft though
L1429[16:32:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Needs
the pack to be private
L1430[16:33:25] <Kenny> which pack
SKS?
L1431[16:33:31] <ShadowKatStudios>
Wired's server
L1432[16:34:05] <Kenny> if he released
the pack through the FTB launcher I don't think he would have a
problem with permissions then
L1433[16:35:01] <Kenny> nearly all mod
devs give permission to packs going through FTB
L1434[16:35:16] <Kenny> if not all*
L1435[16:35:24] <ShadowKatStudios> You
can do custom packs through FTB?
L1436[16:35:28] ***
Death||Away is now known as Death
L1437[16:35:48] <Kenny> ask JZ, he
released his thru FTB initially
L1438[16:35:51] <Gopher> yeah
L1439[16:36:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
AT launcher
L1440[16:36:29] <ShadowKatStudios>
Permission is in the hand of the user
L1441[16:36:36] <Kenny> as much as i
dislike FTB they are the best thing going for those who want to do
mod packs
L1442[16:36:47] <ShadowKatStudios> FTB
sold out to curse
L1443[16:36:59] <Kenny> FTB sold theior
forum to curse
L1444[16:37:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I used
to think highly of them
L1445[16:37:26] <Kenny> they couldn't
handle the forum any more so they did the same thing MC did
L1446[16:37:43] <Kenny> but the Launcher
still belongs to them, not to Curse
L1447[16:37:50] <Gopher> between curse
and adf.ly, the mc and mc modding communities support a lot of
crap
L1448[16:38:18] <Kenny> FTB got in oevr
their collective heads with the forum
L1449[16:38:50] <Kenny> no one was that
up on administering a forum and it got biogger than they knew what
to do with
L1450[16:39:37] ***
alekso56 is now known as alekso56_off
L1451[16:39:55] <ShadowKatStudios>
They're making thhe new launcher for curse then switching to
that
L1452[16:40:11] <ShadowKatStudios> So ads
and slowness for all
L1453[16:40:28] <Kenny> whre did you see
that at?
L1454[16:40:34] <Kenny> where*
L1455[16:41:04] <ShadowKatStudios> The
ftb reddit
L1456[16:43:31] <ShadowKatStudios> I want
a programmable minecart capible of self-propulsion
L1457[16:44:00] <Gopher> skk: that's been
one of the requests repeated on cc forums from the start, heh
L1458[16:44:11] <ShadowKatStudios> That's
why we should have it
L1459[16:44:35] <Kenny> well, i just
forked trhe FTB Launcher hehe
L1460[16:45:29] <JZTech101> Kenny:
?
L1461[16:45:42] <Kenny> you can't
read?
L1462[16:46:02] <JZTech101> I can read.
But I'm not sure what ShadowKatStudios wants
L1463[16:46:17] <JZTech101> also FTB is
NOT the best thing going for people who want modpacks
L1464[16:46:21] <Kenny> a programmable
minecart
L1465[16:46:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Hmm,
would I be murdered for making another issue for a feature request
if I made one several days ago?
L1466[16:47:00] <Kenny> didn't say FTB
was, but when my java gets better I can use it to make my own
L1467[16:47:14] <JZTech101> Kenny: FTB is
the absolute worst if you say need a hotfix up? Lets wait 24
hours.
L1468[16:47:34] <JZTech101> Or you feel
like releasing a second update past your one week limit? nope
L1469[16:47:42] <Kenny> did oyu notr pay
attention to what i just said?
L1470[16:48:13] <JZTech101> Kenny: you
did say "FTB are the best thing doing for those who want to do
modpacks"
L1471[16:48:17] <Kenny> i said when my
java got better i could use it to make MY OWN
L1472[16:48:39] <JZTech101> Kenny: You
would need to make a platform. And thats what FTB lacks
currently
L1473[16:48:53] <JZTech101> thats one of
the major reasons its signing up with CURSE
L1474[16:48:58] <JZTech101> so they can
have a launcher platform
L1475[16:49:04] <Kenny> i'm thru with
this. you just want to argue with me and that will piss me
off.
L1476[16:49:26] <Kenny> i'll just put you
on ignore for now then i don't have to worry about it
L1477[16:49:32] <JZTech101> ok
L1478[16:50:25] <JZTech101> anyways
ShadowKatStudios I honestly think this deal will make for the
betterment of the community.
L1479[16:50:30] <JZTech101> I trust
slowpoke
L1480[16:50:45] <ShadowKatStudios> Where
would I request a Minecart if I don't think it's a great idea in
the core but could be an awesome addon?
L1481[16:51:07] <ShadowKatStudios> We'll
see how it turns out I guess
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L1483[16:52:05] <Gopher> I'd be surprised
if the current api is extensive enough to allow fundamentally new
kinds of computers.
L1484[16:52:39] <Gopher> I'd be surprised
if it ever is, actually. That'd be exposing rather a tremendous
amount of stuff. Also, it's entirely possible computers atm are
tightly coupled to tileentities, I dunno tho, haven't looked at the
src.
L1485[16:53:20] <ShadowKatStudios> It'd
be cool if that worked
L1486[16:53:40] <ShadowKatStudios>
Otherwise, I guess I'll write a mod with an embedded processor
:D
L1487[16:53:56] <ShadowKatStudios> And it
can go into minecarts and stuff
L1488[16:54:15] <ShadowKatStudios>
(4-bit, 12-bit address space I think would be good)
L1489[16:54:20] <Gopher> another
possibility, the minecarts coule be programmable without actually
being computers
L1490[16:54:33] <Gopher> when you get
down to it, they only need very primitive programs
L1491[16:54:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Choose
direction, turn on engine etc.?
L1492[16:55:01] <Kenny> just like a
turtle
L1493[16:55:16] <Gopher> well, turtles
have a lot more freedom than a cart.
L1494[16:55:22] <Gopher> carts are
ultimatrely confined to their rails.
L1495[16:55:40] <Kenny> ture, but
primitive programs hehe
L1496[16:55:54] <ShadowKatStudios>
Though, a cool way to program them would be that they need a
cassete tape with a program on it
L1497[16:56:17] <JZTech101> sidenote -
how would one do multitasking on OC?
L1498[16:56:26] <Kenny> one thing wrong
with a programmable minecart.....
L1499[16:56:41] <Kenny> how are you going
to tell it to get to it's destination?
L1500[16:56:55] <ShadowKatStudios> Using
a program
L1501[16:56:59] <Kenny> especially if the
tracks branch 10 or 12 times along the way
L1502[16:57:12] <Gopher> heh. You can do
quite a lot even in vanilla with carts, really. On a now-defunct
server I had 2 friends with bases over 1km from mine, built a rail
between them that had a switch at their end. I could tell it at my
end which I wanted to go to, and a redstone signal, slowed to cart
speed by repeaters, chased my cart the entire 1km trip XD
L1503[16:57:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
maybe a block that tells it info about the next crossing etc.
L1504[16:57:26] <Kenny> then use RC
L1505[16:57:37] <ShadowKatStudios> RC
minecarts?
L1506[16:57:42] <ShadowKatStudios> :o
That would be amazing
L1507[16:57:50] <ShadowKatStudios> We
should have RC minecarts.
L1508[16:57:57] <Kenny> RC has boarding
blocks and marker rails
L1509[16:58:14] <Gopher> rc has tons of
useful control rails
L1510[16:58:25] <Gopher> and also their
signal system, that I've never really learned to use
L1511[16:58:36] <Gopher> also elevator
rails.
L1512[16:58:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Not
programmable themselves, but you could tell them which way to go
and whether to go forwards or backwards etc.
L1513[16:58:57] <Kenny> yep, and if CC
plans on programmable minecarts they are going to have to add in
some blocks for detection
L1514[16:59:07] <Gopher> kenny, that's
just it. 10, 15, 100 turns along the way, it's a list of "left
at next switch" "right at next switch" etc.
L1515[16:59:28] <Gopher> I'm picturing a
control computer gives the cart routing instructions when it leaves
one station
L1516[16:59:37] <Kenny> but how does it
know when it comes upon a switch?
L1517[16:59:40] <Gopher> and that could
literally just be a stream of "left/right/straight"
L1518[16:59:52] <ShadowKatStudios> You
could map the 'network' like a mesh network
L1519[17:00:01] <Kenny> it might travel
300 blocks before a switch
L1520[17:00:18] <ShadowKatStudios> A
table of connections to other parts of the table
L1521[17:00:25] <Kenny> it would mean you
have to count every single rail to know where each switch is
L1522[17:00:42] <Kenny> either that or
you use MC x,y,z coordinates
L1523[17:00:45] <Gopher> would just have
to be able to look ahead at the track a bit
L1524[17:00:45] <Gopher> I can't see why
that would be particularly difficult
L1525[17:01:04] <Kenny> how is it going
to detect a switch?
L1526[17:01:16] <Kenny> oyu still haven't
answered that one
L1527[17:01:18] <ShadowKatStudios> I
think remote control carts would be awesome
L1528[17:01:51] <Gopher> kenny, it's on a
rail. Why is it hard for it to look at the next rail that's coming
up and see what kind it is?
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L1530[17:02:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Also
conductive rails, carries OC power along rails and delivers it to
OC carts
L1531[17:02:14] <Kenny> there has to be
SOME MEANS OF DETECTION
L1532[17:02:18] <Gopher> it wouldn't have
to map the whole thing, just check the next on ticks, if it's a
switch, pop and apply next route instruction
L1533[17:02:33] <Gopher> are you talking
in-game logic here? or what?
L1534[17:02:45] <Kenny> i'm talking
in-game
L1535[17:02:48] <Gopher> I'm baffled by
your position here
L1536[17:03:11] <Kenny> there has to be
some form of detection for it to know where a switch is
L1537[17:03:13] <Gopher> ah. I don't
know. How do robots fly? :P
L1538[17:03:44] <Kenny> robots have a
detect function for obstruciotns in there path
L1539[17:04:12] <Gopher> oh, so you
misunderstood "in-game" logic, and tyuo mean how, in
code, do we program the cart to do this.
L1540[17:04:28] <Gopher> Well, the cart
is ON a rail. T's position is therefore by definition within the
coordinates of a block that contains a piece of rail.
L1541[17:04:36] <Gopher> It's movement
vector poitns towards the NEXT piece of rail that rail is attached
to.
L1542[17:04:47] <Kenny> even in code,
that switch has to have some way for it to be detected
L1543[17:04:52] <Gopher> IT';s a couple
of very trivial and cheap calls on the world object.
L1544[17:04:52] <Gopher> WHY IS THIS A
THING?
L1545[17:05:45] <Gopher> switches are a
type of block. It's pretty straight forward to identify the type of
a block at known coordinates. O_o
L1546[17:06:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
Switches are just a rail
L1547[17:06:18] <ShadowKatStudios> When
redstone is applied they change state
L1548[17:06:25] <Gopher> If you're
thinking I'ms aying the robot will detect a lever or button and
somehwo activate it to trigger redstone to toggle the switching
rail's path, I'm not
L1549[17:06:46] <Gopher> It would be
modified from the normal minecart code, and the cart would decide
independtly of the rail's normal logic.
L1550[17:07:39] <Gopher> if that seems
problematic, a custom type of rail could be added that acts as a
junction specifically for robot routing
L1551[17:07:46] <Gopher> with normal
carts just passing straight over them, or turning a direction at
random
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L1553[17:07:56] <Gopher> (if it's a T and
there is no straight)
L1554[17:08:21] <ShadowKatStudios> How
much can an RFID card store?
L1555[17:08:34] <Gopher> but I wouldn't
personally have an issue with robot carts just ignoring which way
the redstone state of the rails says it was supposed to go
L1556[17:08:37] <Gopher> sks: veeery
little
L1557[17:08:48] <Gopher> I think around
50 characters?
L1558[17:08:56] <ShadowKatStudios>
Cassette tapes it is.
L1559[17:09:25] <ShadowKatStudios> How
would you only extract a cassette tape from a Minecart?
L1560[17:10:25] <Gopher> properly set up
hopper acting as a filter could do it.
L1561[17:10:46] <ShadowKatStudios>
Cassettes don't stack
L1562[17:10:49] <Gopher> well, no, only
if the tapes could stack
L1563[17:10:58] <Gopher> yeah, I assumed
as much
L1564[17:11:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Though
empty the whole thing intto a chest, take item 1, read, write,
replace, place into minecart
L1565[17:11:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Could
work
L1566[17:11:36] <Gopher> dunno. RailCraft
has blocks to extract things from carts, might have some that can
filter that way? not positive.
L1567[17:11:57] <ShadowKatStudios> Again,
no railcraft :(
L1568[17:12:16] <Gopher> oh, right. heh.
Sry
L1569[17:13:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Meh,
this should work
L1570[17:13:57] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
hook up some buildcraft stuff to do it
L1571[17:14:32] <ShadowKatStudios> Does
OpenComponents have a wiki yet?
L1572[17:15:14] <ping> nope
L1573[17:15:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Gah,
I'll have to just do =component.chest
L1574[17:17:15] <ShadowKatStudios>
Hoppers don't suck up items when they have a RS signal...
L1575[17:23:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Item
loading works :D
L1576[17:25:27] <ShadowKatStudios> It's
kinda a complicated system :( A chest as a buffer would be
nice
L1577[17:30:21] <ShadowKatStudios> :o A
hopper 4 blocks after a powered rail will unload one item
L1578[17:32:01] <Gopher> updated the repo
wiki with a page on scroll bars.
L1579[17:32:35] <Gopher> Annoying as the
time I'm taking to do that is, I keep telling myself it beats the
hell out of putting it off and spending hours or days doing the
whole thing at once.
L1580[17:32:43] <Gopher> (or, more
likely, just never having proper documentation)
L1581[17:33:45] <Kenny> try
logipipes
L1582[17:34:06] <ShadowKatStudios> Should
I use chest carts or hopper carts?
L1583[17:34:09] <Bizzycola> Yea don't be
like *someone else* and leave a certain wiki missing half the mods
info :p
L1584[17:34:16] <ShadowKatStudios> As the
standart?
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L1586[17:35:08] <Kenny> also, Logistics
Pipes have been done so that a turtle an work with them. but de
facto this means Robots will work with them also
L1587[17:36:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Having
a hopper cart would allow people to be transported and not have
their heads knocked off
L1588[17:37:22] <Kenny> you want a
propelled programable minecart?
L1589[17:37:40] <Kenny> program a robot
to push one hehe
L1590[17:37:51] <ping> :O
L1591[17:37:56] <ping> rail upgrade for
turtle
L1592[17:38:14] <Kenny> screw
turtles
L1593[17:38:22] <Bizzycola> Do turtles
have upgrades besides modems and tools? :p
L1594[17:38:26] <ping> derp
L1595[17:38:29] <ping> robots
L1596[17:38:34] <ping> keep thinking
turtles
L1597[17:38:35] <Gopher> in add-ons, not
in cc itself.
L1598[17:39:04] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
a rather dodgy system going here, but it might work
L1599[17:39:11] <Kenny> i'm gonna make a
script so that anyone who calls a robot a turtle gets quited for a
random period of time :P
L1600[17:39:24] <Kenny> quieted*
L1601[17:40:42] <ping> i am a
turtle
L1602[17:40:45] <ping> beep boop
L1603[17:40:58] <Kenny> !quiet ping
L1604[17:40:59] *** zsh sets mode: +q
*!*@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
L1605[17:41:08] <Kenny> !unquiet
ping
L1606[17:41:08] *** zsh sets mode: -q
*!*@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
L1607[17:41:12] <ping> xD
L1608[17:41:19] <ping> use chanserv
L1609[17:41:20] <ping> less spammy
L1610[17:41:35] <Kenny> easier this
way
L1611[17:41:44] ***
Death is now known as Death||Away
L1612[17:41:55] <Kenny> and Death runs
away
L1613[17:42:13] <ShadowKatStudios> You
really /are/ immortal!
L1614[17:42:36] <Kenny> told you so
L1615[17:42:55] *
Kenny has been here since before the beginning of time
L1616[17:42:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Cause
like, if death is too scared to come near you...
L1617[17:43:00] <ping> robots are better
than turtles
L1618[17:43:14] <ShadowKatStudios> Maybe
that's how church people live so long
L1619[17:43:20] <Gopher> how so? seem
pretty near identical to me.
L1620[17:43:35] <Gopher> If anything,
robots are nerfed turtles, especially since cc 1.6
L1621[17:43:38] <Kenny> robots are cooler
looking
L1622[17:43:54] <Gopher> which buffed the
hell out of turtles, letting them swap tools/peripherals on the
fly.
L1623[17:43:57] <Kenny> the remind me of
KITT
L1624[17:44:17] <Gopher> heh. I was
thinking cylon, but close enough.
L1625[17:44:22] <Kenny> Robots can swap
tools or p[eripherals too
L1626[17:44:32] <ShadowKatStudios> 1.6
did everything for everyone if you ask me
L1627[17:44:34] <Kenny> wasn't a big Star
Wars fan
L1628[17:44:41] <Gopher> unless the
documentation is out of date and I missed the function looking at
the functions in robot, no they can't
L1629[17:44:44] <Kenny> like Knight Rider
though
L1630[17:44:50] <Gopher> they cna have
them swapped by players or pipes or other turrtles
L1631[17:44:52] <Gopher> but they can't
swap their own
L1632[17:45:17] *
Kenny smacks Gopher. "Robots dammit!"
L1633[17:45:28] <Kenny> hehe
L1634[17:45:33] <Gopher> huh?
L1635[17:45:36] <ping> .wiki turtle
L1637[17:45:37] <ping> :D
L1638[17:46:21] <ShadowKatStudios>
.derp
L1639[17:46:25] <ShadowKatStudios>
No?
L1640[17:46:27] <ShadowKatStudios>
.test
L1641[17:46:30] <ShadowKatStudios>
:(
L1642[17:46:39] <Kenny> .wiki ping
L1644[17:46:47] <ping> what did you want
it to say SKS?
L1645[17:47:38] <Kenny> .wiki Kenny
L1647[17:47:48] <Kenny> you sob,
ping
L1648[17:48:01] <ping> what did you want
it to say?
L1649[17:48:03] <ShadowKatStudios> .derp
should make it output derp
L1650[17:48:57] <Kenny> he made it say
Stoner with a wiki look up on my name
L1651[17:49:25] <Kenny> Gopher you said
turtle :P
L1652[17:49:45] <Gopher> I said turtle
meaning cc turtles, in a statement specifically comparing them to
robots?
L1653[17:50:05] <Kenny> they cna have
them swapped by players or pipes or other turrtles
L1654[17:50:14] <ShadowKatStudios> .wiki
ShadowKatStudios
L1655[17:50:15] <Kenny> or other
robots
L1656[17:50:17] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
Not found.
L1657[17:50:20] <Gopher> ooooh. Ok, yes,
I did do that XD
L1658[17:50:26] <ping> .derp
L1659[17:50:26] <^v> ping, herp
L1660[17:50:30] <Gopher> Sue me. They're
freaking turtles XD
L1661[17:50:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
.derp
L1662[17:50:33] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
herp
L1663[17:50:33] <Kenny> herp a
derfp
L1664[17:50:35] <ShadowKatStudios>
:D
L1665[17:50:41] <ShadowKatStudios>
.herp
L1666[17:50:42] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
derp
L1667[17:50:52] <ShadowKatStudios> .herp
.derp
L1668[17:50:52] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
derp
L1669[17:50:53] <ping> \o/ more useless
commands
L1670[17:51:02] <ShadowKatStudios> .herp
derp
L1671[17:51:02] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
derp
L1672[17:51:09] <ping> SKS, stahp
L1673[17:51:37] <ShadowKatStudios> Okay
:P
L1674[17:52:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Next
time I build a network I should just use a wireless access point
rather than every computer having a wireless card
L1675[17:52:09] <ShadowKatStudios> The
end isn't a fun place.
L1676[17:52:32] <ping> yes it is
L1677[17:52:35] ***
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L1678[17:52:41] <ping> i remember when it
was called the Ender
L1679[17:52:59] <ping> ender sounds
cooler than end :<
L1680[17:53:29] <ShadowKatStudios> I
remember when it was going to be the skylands
L1681[17:53:55] <Death> I remember before
Nether.
L1682[17:54:03] <Death> Secret halloween
update
L1683[17:54:09] <Gopher> I remember
before minecraft, so nyah.
L1684[17:54:29] <Death> Gopher:
bef-before Minecraft?
L1685[17:54:30] *
Death shudders
L1686[17:54:50] <Gopher> yes. In the
before time, the long long ago.
L1687[17:56:03] <ShadowKatStudios> You're
lying!
L1688[17:56:05] ***
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L1689[17:56:51] <ShadowKatStudios> There
was nothing before Minecraft
L1690[18:02:52] <ShadowKatStudios> So you
can't print a recursive table.
L1691[18:03:07] <ping> nop
L1692[18:03:56] <Gopher> I don't follow
your logic. What does minecraft have to do with printing recursive
tables?
L1693[18:04:15] <Gopher> also,
text.serialize, tho the output is not pretty
L1694[18:04:17] *
ping sla[s Gopher
L1695[18:04:20] <ping> derp
L1696[18:05:27] <ShadowKatStudios> DOes
it need to have anything to do with it?
L1697[18:05:56] <ShadowKatStudios>
Considering you say there was something before Minecraft, i think
my statement is more true
L1698[18:09:12] <SpiritedDusty> logic?
LOGIC? LOOOGIC? we still use that?
L1699[18:10:58] <ShadowKatStudios> What
is this logic you speak of?
L1700[18:11:05] <ping> .wiki
SpiritedDusty
L1702[18:11:16] <SpiritedDusty> ….
L1703[18:11:16] <ShadowKatStudios> .wiki
ShadowKatStudios
L1704[18:11:17] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
Not found.
L1705[18:11:39] <ping> ShadowKatStudios,
what do you want it to say?
L1706[18:11:41] <SpiritedDusty> .wiki
ping
L1708[18:12:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
figure out how to use githum eventually, then I want it to link to
my site
L1709[18:12:28] <ping> \o/ auto
replace
L1711[18:12:32] <ping> :D
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L1713[18:25:41] <ShadowKatStudios> Idea:
RFID tag has UUID of cart, transmit wirelessly to switches which
way the cart needs to go, (similar fashion to my manual routing
system), each switch knows where that UUID goes
L1714[18:27:22] <ShadowKatStudios>
Alternatively, cart has location on RFID tag
L1715[18:30:15] <ShadowKatStudios> I
could have IoT storage using RFID tags!
L1716[18:35:22] <ShadowKatStudios> Here's
a crazy idea: Transfer data using trains and rfid tags
L1717[18:35:36] <ShadowKatStudios>
They're write once though, aren't they :(
L1718[18:38:54] <ShadowKatStudios> A
high-latency, high-bandwidth network based on minecarts would be
cool
L1719[18:40:35] <ping> .barely
xjxoooooooooooooooooooooo~
L1720[18:40:35] <^v> ping, hi
L1721[18:40:40] <ping> \o/ another
useless esolang
L1723[18:41:18] <ping> its instructions
are inturpreted BACKWARDS
L1724[18:46:18] ***
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L1725[18:48:44] <ping> .barely
xhooooooooooooooxjjjjjjjjjjjjjjhhhh~
L1726[18:48:44] <^v> ping, Hi
L1727[18:48:46] <ping> :D
L1728[18:49:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
.barely pred~
L1729[18:49:57] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
Invalid program.
L1730[18:50:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
.barely xhjo!
L1731[18:50:33] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
Invalid program.
L1732[18:50:36] <ShadowKatStudios>
.barely xhjo~
L1733[18:50:37] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
�
L1735[18:51:11] <ping> lrn2barely
L1736[18:51:17] <ping> i can barely
even
L1737[18:51:22] <ping> thats why im good
at it
L1738[18:52:32] <ShadowKatStudios>
.barely bpp?????^kkkkkkkkklll~
L1739[18:52:32] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
Invalid program.
L1740[18:53:26] <ShadowKatStudios>
.barely xjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj~
L1741[18:53:26] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
�
L1742[18:53:49] <ShadowKatStudios>
.barely xjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj~
L1743[18:53:49] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
�
L1744[18:53:53] <ShadowKatStudios>
.barely xjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj~
L1745[18:53:53] <^v> ShadowKatStudios,
�
L1746[18:55:07] <ping> pm.
L1748[18:59:48] <ping> okay, next
esolang!
L1750[19:05:29] <ShadowKatStudios> RFID
reader works surprisingly well
L1751[19:06:09] <ShadowKatStudios>
Scanning at range 2 would be fast enough for track switching
L1752[19:06:16] <ping> hmm, this one is
fun
L1753[19:06:29] <ping> itle compile into
Lua
L1754[19:06:36] <ShadowKatStudios> No
text?
L1755[19:06:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Give
me forth in lua and I'll be impressed :D
L1756[19:06:59] <ping> :P
L1757[19:07:02] <ping> too easy
L1758[19:07:23] <ping> by easy i mean not
eso lang enough
L1759[19:12:09] ***
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L1760[19:12:38] <ShadowKatStudios> I
should apply brainf to Asie's tapes.
L1761[19:12:53] <ping> :D
L1762[19:13:16] <ShadowKatStudios> (Then
emulate a GPU using an internet card and IRC)
L1763[19:13:19] <ping> hmm, agony is a
self modifying language, would be cool on actual tapes
L1764[19:19:36] ***
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L1765[19:21:16] <ShadowKatStudios>
Impliment fishstaackss
L1766[19:21:22] <ShadowKatStudios>
fishstacks
L1767[19:21:52] <ping> after this
L1768[19:24:53] <ShadowKatStudios>
Someone wrote deadfish in brainf\
L1769[19:25:12] <ShadowKatStudios> And
apparently lua
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L1771[19:27:28] <ShadowKatStudios>
Befunge even
L1772[19:28:49] <ping> link?
L1774[19:31:09] <ping> ah yes
L1775[19:31:10] <ping> ofc
L1776[19:31:15] <ping> deadfish is so
simple
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L1778[19:32:41] <ShadowKatStudios> There
are 4 types of minecarts now, right?
L1779[19:32:56] <ShadowKatStudios> One
could write deadfish in minecarts.
L1780[19:34:08] <ShadowKatStudios>
Fishstacks seems better
L1781[19:35:27] <ShadowKatStudios> There
is a version of deadfish... written in deadfish
L1782[19:37:42] <ping> no, there
isnt
L1783[19:39:49] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh, it
sayd deadfish in the index
L1784[19:43:20] <Bizzycola> Is thaumcraft
opensource?
L1785[19:44:05] <ping> google?
L1786[19:44:57] <ShadowKatStudios>
Unfortunately, no IIRC
L1787[19:45:49] <ping> no, its not
L1789[19:47:50] <ShadowKatStudios> I
wants :D
L1790[19:49:15] <Bizzycola> Doesn't look
like it
L1791[19:49:20] <Bizzycola> I wanted the
TC3 source :p
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L1796[20:42:02] <Gopher> herp lol
L1797[20:42:16] <Gopher> found a miiiinor
issue with colors on the gpu in oc...
L1798[20:42:46] <Ir7_o> does anyone know
anything about a .go file?
L1799[20:42:50] <Ir7_o> is it
goPearl?
L1800[20:42:59] <Gopher> set background
to 0xb4b4b4 (which is a light gray with a bluish tint) and write a
character.
L1801[20:44:24] <Gopher> then gpu.get()
that char back, it reports bg color 0x9191aa.
L1802[20:44:53] <Gopher> repeat with that
color as input, you get out 0x6d6daa. again, and 0x4848aa. Again,
0x2424aa
L1803[20:45:37] <Gopher> after that it
stabilizes at 0x0000aa
L1804[20:45:49] <Gopher> Ir7_o, no idea
:/
L1805[20:47:28] ***
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L1806[20:47:34] <Ir7_o> thats ok, I found
a PHP version of what I am looking for.
L1807[20:47:40] <Gopher> /extreme/
delayed response to sangar re: dragging and gpu.copy, copy is fast,
but redrawing what's behind it remains an issue.
L1808[20:47:53] <ping> jesus christ that
took too long
L1809[20:47:59] <Gopher> ?
L1810[20:48:04] <ping> making
superstack
L1811[20:48:13] <ping> .sstack 0 33 100
108 114 111 87 32 44 111 108 108 101 72 if outputascii fi
L1812[20:48:13] <^v> ping, Hello,
World!
L1813[20:59:19] ***
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L1815[21:13:03] ***
Death||Away is now known as Death
L1816[21:21:39] ***
Death is now known as Death||Away
L1817[21:27:18] ***
Death||Away is now known as Death
L1818[21:43:36] <ping> ShadowKatStudios,
i implemented deadfish
L1819[21:43:40] <ping> .df
iisi4si8oi29oi7ooi3od79od21sddod8oi3od6od8o
L1820[21:43:40] <^v> ping, Hello
world
L1821[21:44:02] <Gopher> I don't recall
deadfish allowing numbers in it's syntax?
L1822[21:44:23] <ping> its
compressed
L1823[21:44:25] <ping> .df
iisiiiisiiiiiiiioiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiioiiiiiiiooiiiodddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddodddddddddddddddddddddsddoddddddddoiiioddddddoddddddddo
L1824[21:44:25] <^v> ping, Hello
world
L1825[21:44:33] <ping> the numbers are
repetitions
L1826[21:44:38] <Gopher> ah. rle?
L1827[21:45:07] <Gopher> still seems
cheaty
L1828[21:45:11] <ping> :P
L1829[21:46:10] <ping> hmm, ill make a
deadfish encode
L1830[21:49:24] <ping> what language
next?
L1831[21:49:40] <ping> im on a roll, 4
eso langs implemented today
L1832[21:49:50] <ping> quickly before 12
AM
L1833[21:50:05] <Gopher> piet.
L1834[21:51:11] <ping> … that works on
IRC
L1835[21:51:16] <ping> ie, text
based
L1836[21:52:03] <Gopher> oh, sorry,
didn't realise that was a criteria. That suggestion was a waste of
time, I guess. :whistles innocently:
L1837[21:53:20] <ping> Oh. My. God.
L1838[21:53:24] <ping> exploit time
L1839[21:53:35] <ping> Gopher, ty
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L1842[22:08:22] <Wired> How are we all
doing tonight?
L1843[22:10:33] <ping> okay
L1844[22:10:40] <ping> i mean
horrible
L1845[22:10:45] <ping> definitely
horrible
L1846[22:10:56] <Wired> Hmm, what's going
on?
L1847[22:11:02] <Gopher> excellent,
thanks :) You?
L1848[22:11:21] <ping> i implemented like
4 eso langs into ^v today
L1849[22:11:25] <Wired> I'm doing just
fine I guess, cramming for homework :P
L1850[22:11:27] <Gopher> ping is trying
to finish his 5th esolang implementation of the day.
L1851[22:11:36] <ping> well its 12
AM
L1852[22:11:51] <Wired> Ping, what's with
you and esolangs lately?
L1853[22:11:58] <Gopher> I am working on
my gui libraries, added listboxes, which are about 85% done,
updating documentation on the repo wiki now
L1854[22:12:06] <ping> lets just count
days as time between me sleeping
L1855[22:12:29] <Wired> Pretty much how I
do it, ping.
L1856[22:12:47] <ping> so, what should me
5th esolang be
L1857[22:12:54] <Gopher> no other method
makes sense.
L1858[22:12:56] <ping> let me check what
i already ahve
L1859[22:13:02] <Wired> I wake up around
1PM daily. Go to my internship. Do schoolwork. Program. Sleep
around 5AM.
L1860[22:13:05] <Wired> Like
clockwork.
L1861[22:14:32] <ping> brainfuck,
clusterfuck, agony, malbolge, left bracket, ssbpl, barely, sstack,
deadfish
L1862[22:14:37] <ping> not enough
L1863[22:14:42] <ping> never enough
esolange
L1864[22:15:33] <ping> superstack is
fun
L1865[22:15:45] <ping> its the most
verbose esolang in there
L1866[22:16:23] <ping> .superstack 0 60
51 32 87 105 114 101 100 if outputascii fi
L1867[22:16:26] <ping> :/
L1868[22:16:29] *
ping slaps self
L1869[22:16:29] *
^v double slaps self
L1870[22:16:36] <ping> .sstack 0 60 51 32
87 105 114 101 100 if outputascii fi
L1871[22:16:37] <^v> ping, deriW
3<
L1872[22:16:40] <ping> fail.
L1873[22:17:07] <Wired> That's some
batshit insane nonsense right there.
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L1875[22:17:13] <ping> not really
L1876[22:17:43] <ping> .sstack 60 51 32
87 105 114 101 100 rev 0 cycle if outputascii fi
L1877[22:17:44] <^v> ping, <3
Wired
L1878[22:17:44] <Wired> Is there really
any point to esolangs?
L1879[22:17:45] <ping> there
L1880[22:17:52] <Wired> Or are they just
fun?
L1881[22:17:58] <ping> mostly just
fun
L1882[22:18:08] <Wired> Mostly?
L1883[22:18:10] <ping> and
obufuscation
L1884[22:18:22] <Wired> Do they really
obfuscate any better than a compiler can?
L1885[22:18:34] <Wired> or an obfuscater,
rather.
L1886[22:18:51] <ping> i dunno
L1887[22:19:11] <Wired> Also, obfuscation
for interpreted languages seems just...
L1888[22:19:14] <Wired>
pointless...
L1889[22:19:34] <ping> i just use them to
prevent people from knowing what it is, and it works
L1890[22:20:00] <ping> everyones like l_l
my eyes hurt, cba figure out what lang this is in and decompile
it
L1891[22:20:39] <ping> posting
obufuscated code isnt allowed on CC forums :(
L1892[22:22:59] <Wired> Surely there are
esolang forums....
L1893[22:23:35] <ping> i dunno
L1894[22:23:43] <ping> theres an IRC
though
L1895[22:23:47] <ping> #esoteric on
freenode
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L1897[22:27:40] <ping> superstack is the
most sane esolang for doing real stuff
L1898[22:30:26] <ping> .> local a=0
io.open("plugins/esolang.lua"):read("*a"):gsub("\n",function()
a=a+1 end) return a
L1899[22:30:26] <^v> ping, 700
L1900[22:30:33] <ping> :O 700 lines
L1901[22:30:37] <ping> need moar
L1902[22:31:36] <Gopher> wired, what's
the point in showing off his new knowledge of esolangs to people
who are into that sort of thing? XD
L1903[22:31:37] <Wired> You know what
would be crazy? Have an esolang interpreter written in an
esolang.
L1905[22:31:52] <Gopher> there are
brainfuck interpreters in lots of esolangs
L1906[22:31:57] <Wired> Then pile that
about 50 high.
L1907[22:32:07] <ping> Wired, easy?
L1908[22:32:19] <Wired> :P
L1909[22:32:43] <ping> want me to write a
BF inturpreter in malbolge?
L1910[22:32:45] <ping> :P
L1911[22:32:53] <Wired> Sure :P
L1912[22:33:12] <ping> k. gimme a couple
thousand years
L1913[22:33:18] <Gopher> I insist you not
sleep until you're done.
L1914[22:33:59] <Wired> Yeah, go for
it.
L1915[22:34:35] <Wired> Oh, I got it. A
g++ rewritten in BF.
L1916[22:35:10] <Wired> Oh, let's go one
step up, i++, without the source.
L1917[22:35:19] *
ping dies
L1918[22:35:26] <ping> score:
&e0
L1919[22:37:24] <Wired> Wait, could we
get a disassembler that exports to BF?
L1920[22:37:30] <Wired> Because that
would be badass.
L1921[22:39:01] <ping> Wired, tecnically
yes
L1922[22:39:20] <Wired> ping: hurr, but
how hard would that be?
L1923[22:39:30] <ping> but in even the
smallest programs you would have thousands of >s
L1924[22:39:44] <ping> and doing that
CONSTANTLY
L1925[22:39:52] <Wired> pshhh, we would
compress it at the end.
L1926[22:40:05] <Wired> All those >s
make its compressability through the roof.
L1927[22:40:23] <ping> every instruction
you would have to jump back to eip
L1928[22:40:49] <ping> you would also
have a really hard time processing / incrementing the EIP
L1929[22:41:01] <ping> because it needs
to be 2 cells
L1930[22:41:13] <ping> or you will be
limited to only 256 instructions
L1931[22:41:30] <Wired> That would make
things complicated.
L1932[22:41:33] <ping> also floating
point instructions would be /impossible/
L1933[22:41:43] <ping> so a genaric 16
bit assembler
L1934[22:42:09] <Wired> Impossible?
L1935[22:42:11] <Wired> Why?
L1936[22:42:25] <ping> by impossible, i
mean malbolge impossible
L1937[22:42:39] <ping> not impossible,
just really fucking hard
L1938[22:43:09] <Wired> Hmm, well if we
had the rest of the disassembler, we could right a program that
handles floating points, couldn't we?
L1939[22:43:52] <ping> if you convert the
float ops to normal ones, yes
L1940[22:44:02] <ping> but that has
memory allocation issues
L1941[22:44:11] <ping> we would need to
add more registers
L1942[22:44:17] <Wired> Well no one said
it would be efficient :P
L1943[22:44:22] <ping> the register stack
is going to be a bitch also
L1944[22:44:55] <ping> in short: no and
long:
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
L1945[22:45:24] <Wired> We could make
specialized hardware.
L1946[22:45:32] <Wired> So erm:
maaaaaaaayyyybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
L1947[22:45:51] <ping> So erm:
maaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee in 100 years
L1948[22:47:17] <Wired> Psh, we'll have
quantum computers. Can you imagine the kind of insane possibilities
for esolangs with quantum stuffs?
L1949[22:50:01] <ping> its just
faster
L1950[22:50:13] <ping> quantum just means
on a smaller level
L1951[22:52:40] <Gopher> uh, no.
L1952[22:52:51] <Gopher> quantum
computers are a fundamentally different kind of computer.
L1953[22:54:13] <ping> yes, but we will
still have assembly
L1954[22:59:18] <ping> so, what health
should we all start out with
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L1956[22:59:40] <ping> and how much
health should slapping / stabbing take
L1957[23:00:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Random
between 1 and 10
L1958[23:00:12] <ping> and hp?
L1959[23:00:13] <ShadowKatStudios> For
stab dammage
L1960[23:00:34] <ShadowKatStudios> Uhm,
Something in the range of 100 - 1000
L1961[23:01:06] <ping> ill do 1000
L1962[23:02:05] <ping> :/ gtg
L1964[23:04:01] <Wired> Back, I don't
think Ping understands quantum computers.
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L1968[23:04:35] <Gopher> no, I don't
think he does. I decided not to bother trying to explain
L1969[23:04:51] <Gopher> largely because
I don't really understand them either, except just enough to know
they are not like normal computers.
L1970[23:05:07] <Gopher> though any
practical quantum computer will almost certainly be a hybrid
L1971[23:05:38] <Wired> Yeah, there's
currently more than one method of how they work.
L1972[23:05:42] <Gopher> since
programming a purely quantum computer would be possibly worse than
programming malbolge
L1973[23:05:44] <Wired> Lots of
options.
L1974[23:06:08] <Wired> QDCA is a fun
one. New kind of gate and stuff.
L1975[23:06:18] <Wired> But only allows
for two states.
L1976[23:06:25] <Gopher> the minute you
start talking about qubits, and the operations that can be
performed on them, you leave the realm of normal comprehensibility,
lol
L1977[23:06:47] <Wired> It's really not
all that complicated, but it's a bitch to try to learn about it by
reading.
L1978[23:07:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Hey
Wired o/
L1979[23:07:27] <Wired> It's like it's
written by a bunch of professors that don't understand
English.
L1980[23:07:31] <Wired> Hi
ShadowKatStudios.
L1981[23:07:47] <ShadowKatStudios> Is the
server down?
L1982[23:08:01] <Wired> Yeah, and I can't
figure out what's wrong with it :\
L1983[23:08:09] <ShadowKatStudios>
D:
L1984[23:08:17] <ShadowKatStudios> I
couldn't connect, and now it's down D:
L1985[23:08:29] <Wired> There's not much
I can do really.
L1986[23:08:35] <ShadowKatStudios> I
finished SKS-Net though
L1987[23:08:53] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm on
the wrong account to access it atm though
L1988[23:09:11] <Wired> Nice, I'm doing
pretty good myself too. Finally typing at some pretty ridiculous
speeds on Dvorak.
L1989[23:09:37] <ShadowKatStudios> What
you /could/ do was expand a little on that minimal OC pack you had
going
L1990[23:09:50] <Wired> I could, want me
to?
L1991[23:10:00] <ShadowKatStudios> If it
means a server again :D
L1992[23:10:58] <Wired> Well, only
partly, it won't have the player base, but you'll have me :P
L1993[23:11:06] <ShadowKatStudios>
Additions I would like: Buildcraft, GasCraft (And dependancies),
EnderIO, Immibis Peripherals OC port
L1994[23:11:15] <ShadowKatStudios> You
could put it on the OC forums
L1995[23:12:04] <Wired> I suppose I
could
L1996[23:12:04] <ShadowKatStudios>
Considering the small userbase, you could probably add railcraft
and PM the pack to people wanting to join
L1997[23:12:12] <ShadowKatStudios> <3
Railcraft
L1998[23:12:32] <Wired> Lol, I don't
really care so much for Railcraft myself.
L1999[23:12:33] <ShadowKatStudios>
:D
L2000[23:12:45] <Wired> But maybe it's
just because I'm not good with it. I really haven't looked into
it.
L2001[23:12:54] <ShadowKatStudios> I like
the steam locos, so much nicer than furnace carts
L2002[23:13:14] <Wired> The OC server's
up.
L2003[23:13:40] <Wired> I'll be on in a
minute.
L2004[23:14:25] <ShadowKatStudios> Could
I get the link :P ?
L2006[23:14:39] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm on
a different account I created to get admin on this computer
L2007[23:15:25] <ShadowKatStudios> It
worked, User SKS in in group Administrators
L2008[23:15:32] <ShadowKatStudios> I have
command line access
L2009[23:15:35] <ShadowKatStudios> And
run access
L2010[23:16:10] <Wired> Lol, you need
command line access just to start x on my computer.
L2011[23:16:44] <Wired> Login managers
are for scrubs. Default is the only way to go.
L2012[23:18:09] <ShadowKatStudios> For
Windows I think I did pretty well
L2013[23:18:23] <ShadowKatStudios> ALso
I'm building a fileserver with software RAID
L2014[23:18:32] <ShadowKatStudios>
:D
L2015[23:18:44] <ShadowKatStudios> My
computer in a crate is in a crate no more
L2016[23:18:45] <Wired> Sounds awesome,
any plans on what you'll be using it for?
L2017[23:18:54] <ShadowKatStudios> I
might run a webservver
L2018[23:19:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Use it
for Worldwide exchange of SKS-Mail
L2019[23:19:17] <ShadowKatStudios>
Internet tunneling etc.
L2020[23:19:25] <Wired> Sounds neat
:P
L2021[23:19:36] <ShadowKatStudios> Cause
a mesh network only goes as far as you build nodes
L2022[23:19:40] <Wired> So, what's new in
OC 1.2.4?
L2023[23:20:58] <Wired> Wow, that much?
huh. \s
L2024[23:21:28] <Wired> ShadowKatStudios:
Wanna skype?
L2025[23:22:27] <ShadowKatStudios> I'll
see if LQ wants to come on
L2026[23:23:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Cause
you know, we're both in the computer room
L2027[23:24:58] <Wired> I be
callin'.
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L2029[23:38:44] <Wired> Welcome back
Bizzy :P
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L2031[23:53:38] <Wired> :\
L2032[23:53:43] <Wired> Is anyone
here?
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L2036[23:55:15] <Wired> Welcome back,
Gopher.
L2037[23:55:23] <Gopher> ty.
L2038[23:55:35] <Wired> What are you up
to?
L2039[23:57:00] <Wired> Why doesn't cp
have a recursive flag?
L2040[23:57:09] <Wired> What kind of
saddist made this?
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L2043[23:58:59] <Gopher> ffs
L2044[23:59:11] <Gopher> what abuot you,
wired?
L2045[23:59:11] <Wired> What's up?
Terrible interweb?
L2046[23:59:16] <Gopher> yah, always
:P