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L22[03:02:17] <ShadowKatStudios> Evening o/
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L24[03:05:18] <mallrat208> hello
L25[03:07:51] <ShadowKatStudios> Anything interesting happening... anywhere?
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L28[03:16:05] <mallrat208> Not much exciting today I fear.
L29[03:17:03] <ShadowKatStudios> I've discovered that people have a tendancy to do stupid stuff.
L30[03:17:43] <mallrat208> <-
L31[03:17:45] <mallrat208> Guilty
L32[03:19:56] <ShadowKatStudios> But, like, stuff that is the total opposite of logic while in posession of all the facts.
L33[03:21:23] <mallrat208> I spent 15 minutes doing... http://puu.sh/73cZT.png .. why? No reason
L34[03:22:44] <ShadowKatStudios> Seems fun
L35[03:23:07] <ShadowKatStudios> Is there a way to measure the stored power in a system?
L36[03:23:33] <mallrat208> External? or internal to the computer
L37[03:23:52] <ShadowKatStudios> Internal to the system, capacitors and such?
L38[03:23:59] <mallrat208> I.. think so
L39[03:24:10] <ShadowKatStudios> I need to know when to enter hybernation mode
L40[03:24:18] <ShadowKatStudios> On my UNIX-ish
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L46[03:35:48] <mallrat208> hmm.. dead forums?
L47[03:35:55] <mallrat208> nm
L48[03:35:59] <mallrat208> my end
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L50[03:42:08] <mallrat208> Soo.. computer.energy() and computer.maxEnergy()
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L62[04:59:44] <Kenny> SKS: you can use the analyzer to find out
L63[05:00:47] <ShadowKatStudios> But, for a program?
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L65[05:02:06] <Kenny> give me a couple of minutes to fully wake up heheh
L66[05:03:14] <Kenny> like mallrat mentioned then, you can use the checkenergy functions of the computer
L67[05:04:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Oh sorry, didn't see.
L68[05:05:32] <Kenny> but there is a function to check stored energy, max energy, and so on
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L70[05:06:40] <Kenny> brb need to make a cup of coffee to get woke up
L71[05:09:45] <Kenny> also, check this out: https://github.com/BigRenegade/OC-Compatibility-Libraries
L72[05:10:01] <Kenny> compat lib for CC-OC
L73[05:11:57] <ShadowKatStudios> No need for CC for CC peripherals? :D
L74[05:12:53] <ShadowKatStudios> Mechs here I come :D
L75[05:13:30] <Kenny> don't need it now. the adaoter block will let you use CC peripherals. yiou do need OpenComponents though
L76[05:14:02] <ShadowKatStudios> I know, but to run mods depending on CC?
L77[05:14:12] <Kenny> this is a software compat library so you can run CC programs on an OC
L78[05:14:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Can I make a zip that pretends to be CC?
L79[05:14:47] <Kenny> i don't have a clue hehe
L80[05:16:40] * ShadowKatStudios goes to look for some mcmod.infos to look at
L81[05:16:40] <Kenny> i'm working on porting a mod from CC to OC and it requires the use of a CC unit called Parallel. I called myself being a smart ass last night and copying the lua code from the CC zip file to the OC file
L82[05:17:27] <Kenny> i still get an error message but not the same one as before lol
L83[05:18:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Parallel lets you use threading
L84[05:18:42] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm working on threading using multiple OC units
L85[05:19:10] <Kenny> it does a pcall to parallel.waitForAny
L86[05:20:04] <Kenny> getting this part going is kinda crucial to getting the whole program running
L87[05:21:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Someone wrote lua in lua, maybe you could switch between running instances
L88[05:22:46] <Kenny> http://pastebin.com/PdfiHE2W
L89[05:23:30] <Kenny> there is the part with it and what follows. you can see where the pcall is to get any errors and based on that wether to run the program or not
L90[05:24:27] <ShadowKatStudios> Try combining main and the keyboard input?
L91[05:25:38] <Kenny> actually the keyboard function there is just to look for shortcuts for the menu functions
L92[05:27:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Could you cut it out?
L93[05:27:50] <Kenny> i believe so
L94[05:28:05] <ShadowKatStudios> That could work
L95[05:28:48] <Kenny> i just commented out the pcall and i'm launching the game to check it out
L96[05:29:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Ooh, a game?
L97[05:29:47] <Kenny> nope, i launched MC to check out the program ingame
L98[05:30:03] <ShadowKatStudios> Ah
L99[05:30:11] <ShadowKatStudios> What program is it?
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L101[05:31:04] <Kenny> if i told you that i'd have to shoot you hehe
L102[05:31:39] <ShadowKatStudios> asie|tab Does the 'tab' in your name mean tablet?
L103[05:31:44] <asie|tab> Yes
L104[05:33:22] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm also on a tablet.
L105[05:33:30] <asie|tab> Yaye,
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L107[05:47:51] <Kenny> well, i'm kind of on a tablet hehe
L108[05:48:07] <Kenny> i do a lot of writing on one for the code on here
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L119[08:00:56] <Kenny> Sangar: progress. I can now use the mouse and i am able to work thru the menus.
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L125[08:25:06] <Kenny> Vexatos: how good is your lua programming skills?
L126[08:25:19] <Vexatos> Well, enough :D
L127[08:25:25] <Vexatos> (Not a wizard at it)
L128[08:26:08] <Kenny> i need to take a string ("Midnight") remove the quotes and add on Theme. how would i do this?
L129[08:27:01] <Vexatos> Define "add on Theme"
L130[08:27:06] <Kenny> basically changing it from a string to a variable name
L131[08:27:19] <Kenny> MidnightTheme like that
L132[08:27:31] <Vexatos> Ah
L133[08:27:55] <Kenny> already know how to make Midnight lowercase hehe
L134[08:27:56] <Vexatos> Try the following
L135[08:28:20] <Vexatos> Let's say local string = "Midnight"
L136[08:28:22] <Vexatos> Then do
L137[08:30:10] <Vexatos> Wait
L138[08:30:24] <Vexatos> You simply want to turn "Midnight" into "MidnightTheme"=
L139[08:30:25] <Vexatos> ?
L140[08:30:50] <Kenny> yep
L141[08:31:00] <Vexatos> string = String.gsub(string,"Midnight","MidnightTheme")
L142[08:31:06] <Vexatos> Like that?
L143[08:31:23] <Kenny> Midnight is part of a list....
L144[08:31:33] <Vexatos> Oh, hmmm
L145[08:31:40] <Kenny> so it could be Midnight or Fire or Water....
L146[08:31:48] <Vexatos> Ok, then
L147[08:31:52] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L148[08:32:06] <Vexatos> Well
L149[08:32:16] <Vexatos> You want to place the word "Theme" at the very end?
L150[08:32:38] <Kenny> yep. but i need to change it from a string to a variable name
L151[08:32:54] <Vexatos> That I don't know
L152[08:33:00] <Kenny> so "Midnight" and Theme become midnightTheme
L153[08:33:02] <Vexatos> How that should be made possible
L154[08:33:57] <Kenny> i know how to make it lower case but not how i can use it as a variable name
L155[08:34:06] <Vexatos> Me neither
L156[08:34:13] <Vexatos> I don't think you can
L157[08:34:25] <Vexatos> The only way to make such a thing could be inside a list
L158[08:34:34] <Vexatos> A table
L159[08:36:02] <Kenny> it is being insterted into a table, but as a string value
L160[08:37:57] <Kenny> http://pastebin.com/rVftZzgq
L161[08:38:01] <Kenny> check that out
L162[08:38:13] <Kenny> that is how it is being inserted into the table
L163[08:38:35] <Kenny> the list at the topis of the values being inserted into the table
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L165[08:40:00] <Kenny> i need to change the part where theme=t so that t is no longer a string value
L166[08:42:26] <Michiyo> Ok, you're reading from the top list, and want to append "Theme" to the end of each entry?
L167[08:43:45] <Kenny> right. i know that as a string value i can do t.."Theme" but i need to change that string value to a variable
L168[08:44:39] <Kenny> i'm trying to it in as few lines as possible but i have an idea i'm going to have to do a number of if statements
L169[08:48:17] <Kenny> so that say "Fire".."Theme" will become fireTheme. i know i can do string.lower(t).."Theme" so "Fire".."Theme" becomes "fireTheme" but i need to change it to fireTheme, a variable name
L170[08:49:00] <Kenny> is there a way i can do that, or will i need to use an if then to change it?
L171[08:49:19] <Kenny> and Morning Michiyo :)
L172[08:50:03] <Michiyo> morning, and I have no clue ATM... I've been up way to long with not enough caffine for programming lol
L173[08:51:53] <Kenny> lol
L174[08:52:03] <Kenny> i need to make another cup myself hehe
L175[09:00:31] <Kenny> i think i just figured out a solution
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L177[09:54:13] <Kenny> well, thta idea didn't pan out, so i ended up using if statements
L178[10:12:16] <Din> How to incerase your phone signal by 200% http://pokit.org/get/?c5a6b828c5ca3583498abdd232868393.jpg
L179[10:16:39] <Kenny> stand next to a cell tower
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L181[10:23:24] <^v> anyone want me to make a brainfuck developer? :3
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L187[10:32:07] <Din16> dang ISP
L188[10:32:13] * Din16 blames Kenny
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L192[11:00:08] <Kenny> lol
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L194[11:00:37] <Kenny> SuPeRMiNoR2!
L195[11:01:04] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Kenny
L196[11:01:11] <Kenny> https://github.com/BigRenegade/OC-Compatibility-Libraries
L197[11:01:23] <Kenny> making a compay lib for CC to OC
L198[11:01:33] <Kenny> compat*
L199[11:02:10] <SuPeRMiNoR2> cool
L200[11:02:15] <SuPeRMiNoR2> nice username btw
L201[11:02:36] <Kenny> open source anyone can contribute
L202[11:03:26] <Kenny> i've always been a Renegade and i'm in now way small hehe
L203[11:04:31] <Kenny> thought about calling myself Blackbeard at one time, except i can't grow a beard lol
L204[11:11:11] * ^v shoves a lab grown beard in Kenny's face
L205[11:11:14] <^v> i grew one
L206[11:11:16] <^v> :D
L207[11:11:58] <^v> Kenny, ive made a fully implemented filesystem emulator for cc
L208[11:12:23] <^v> but im too lazy to put it in your compatability thing
L209[11:17:04] <^v> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/126
L210[11:17:07] <^v> .-.
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L213[11:23:25] <Kenny> i don't see why that guy is having issues. I use TE power conduits for my power supply and they connect to the power convertor just fine
L214[11:24:17] <Kenny> and for some odd reason i don't think that is the power convertor in the pic
L215[11:25:15] <Kenny> guess it is
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L222[12:12:36] <Mandrake> Sangar, I have been having a huge problem:
L223[12:12:55] <Mandrake> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/126
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L226[12:15:15] <Kenny> !op Sangar1
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L228[12:15:32] <Sangar1> Mandrake: upgrade to the latest dev version, you're using ue 3.1
L229[12:15:47] <Sangar1> oh fuck it -.-
L230[12:15:53] <Kenny> Sangar identify
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L234[12:16:07] <Kenny> lol
L235[12:16:08] <^v> >_
L236[12:16:18] <Sangar> easier to log back in :P
L237[12:16:20] <^v> ow my eyes is gone
L238[12:16:25] <^v> >_> das better
L239[12:16:45] <Kenny> i'm getting there with that program :)
L240[12:16:59] <Kenny> i can now use the mouse to work the menus
L241[12:17:08] <Sangar> nice
L242[12:17:17] <Kenny> and access some of the initial menu options
L243[12:17:48] <Kenny> just having fun figuring out the filesystem hehe
L244[12:19:12] <^v> le progress
L245[12:19:12] <^v> http://pastebin.com/kUBUb4ps
L246[12:20:47] <^v> instead of real comparing i use a lazy checksum
L247[12:20:55] <^v> which makes it much smaller
L248[12:21:27] <Kenny> also Sangar, i added you to the collaborators list for the Compatibility library: https://github.com/BigRenegade/OC-Compatibility-Libraries
L249[12:21:45] <Sangar> yup, i got an email, thanks
L250[12:21:45] <Kenny> i know you don't really have time but it makes it easier
L251[12:22:22] <Kenny> Dusty, Wobbo, and Symm have been working with me on it.
L252[12:22:26] <^v> a list :O
L253[12:22:28] <^v> me want
L254[12:23:08] <Kenny> Kenny, ive made a fully implemented filesystem emulator for cc
L255[12:23:08] <Kenny> [12:12] <^v> but im too lazy to put it in your compatability thing
L256[12:23:16] <Kenny> why should i with you saying that
L257[12:25:16] <^v> fine, ill do it when mandrake opens the server :P
L258[12:48:21] <Mandrake> Sorry I was AFK
L259[12:48:29] <Mandrake> do I need to update the UE core shit
L260[12:53:55] <Kenny> i beleive it was update OC to latest dev build because you are using UE 3.1
L261[12:54:59] <Kenny> Sanga-r said: Mandrake: upgrade to the latest dev version, you're using ue 3.1
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L266[13:01:24] <Sangar> Mandrake: it looks like you *have* ue core 3.1, but the 1.2.0 release used 3.0 (because that was what it was at then), hence the incompatibility. latest oc dev version uses ue 3.1, too.
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L268[13:11:25] <Kenny> figured that was what you meant
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L289[14:12:58] <Wobbo> Wow, no admins online, not even away
L290[14:13:44] <^v> Wobbo, okey
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L300[14:48:29] <Symmetryc> Hey
L301[14:48:34] <Wobbo> Hi
L302[14:49:07] <^v> my cat
L303[14:49:08] <^v> http://puu.sh/73Kiy.png
L304[14:49:10] <Wobbo> Hows life?
L305[14:49:11] <^v> cute :D
L306[14:50:26] <JoshTheEnder> wait, when did EnderBot get voiced? :S
L307[14:50:36] <Wobbo> XD
L308[14:50:41] <Wobbo> ?EnderBot
L309[14:50:41] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L310[14:50:56] <Wobbo> ?JoshTheEnder
L311[14:50:56] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L312[14:51:02] <Wobbo> ??
L313[14:51:08] <JoshTheEnder> ?help
L314[14:51:08] <EnderBot> I can help you with: test, who-is-ir7_o, spacepie, fart,
L315[14:51:08] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates
L316[14:51:10] <Wobbo> ?fart
L317[14:51:10] <EnderBot> Don't make me fart in your general direction!
L318[14:51:46] <JoshTheEnder> heh
L319[14:52:00] <JoshTheEnder> not sure who added that but ohhwell
L320[14:52:17] <Wobbo> ?help
L321[14:52:17] <EnderBot> I can help you with: test, who-is-ir7_o, spacepie, fart,
L322[14:52:17] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates
L323[14:52:24] <Wobbo> ?stargates
L324[14:52:24] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L325[14:52:36] <JoshTheEnder> that's for another channel
L326[14:52:37] <^v> *clap*
L327[14:56:04] <JoshTheEnder> hmm
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L330[14:56:11] <JoshTheEnder> hmm
L331[14:56:17] <Wobbo> ?clap?
L332[14:56:17] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L333[14:56:25] <JoshTheEnder> meh
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L335[14:59:44] <^v> ?clop?
L336[14:59:44] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L337[14:59:58] <Wobbo> ?meh
L338[14:59:58] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L339[15:00:07] <Wobbo> ?OpenComputers
L340[15:00:07] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L341[15:00:54] <mallrat208> EnderBot sucks
L342[15:01:16] <^v> mallrat208, the more you know
L343[15:01:28] <Wobbo> ?mallrat208
L344[15:01:28] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L345[15:03:08] <asie> ?porn
L346[15:03:08] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L347[15:03:38] <Wobbo> Anyway, Symmetryc, played around with OC yet?
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L349[15:19:03] <Symmetryc> Wobbo: Sort of
L350[15:19:10] <Symmetryc> Wobbo: Been looking through the APIs
L351[15:19:27] <Symmetryc> Wobbo: Btw, I added some stuff to the compat lib
L352[15:19:34] <Wobbo> I saw you pushed to Kenny's OC-compat :)
L353[15:19:37] <Wobbo> I saw
L354[15:20:50] <Symmetryc> Hey, do you want to know something crazy?
L355[15:21:00] <Wobbo> Tell me
L356[15:21:30] <Symmetryc> string.sub is just the string "sub" with its metatable having __call
L357[15:21:39] <Symmetryc> So like print(string.sub) --> sub
L358[15:21:45] <Symmetryc> Atleast in LuaJ
L359[15:21:58] <Symmetryc> Btw if you didn't already know, strings have metatables
L360[15:21:59] <Wobbo> That is a weir dimplementation
L361[15:22:12] <Wobbo> I knew that, everything has a metatable
L362[15:22:26] <Symmetryc> ^ Hmm Lua 5.2?
L363[15:22:34] <Wobbo> You are just not allowed to access all to them
L364[15:22:38] <Symmetryc> In Lua 5.1 only tables and strings do I believe
L365[15:22:56] <Symmetryc> And userdata of course, but LuaJ doesn't support userdata I think
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L367[15:25:28] <Symmetryc> Wobbo: Another pull requestion
L368[15:25:37] <Symmetryc> :P
L369[15:25:40] <Wobbo> To OC-compat?
L370[15:25:43] <Symmetryc> Yeah
L371[15:25:57] <Symmetryc> You have merge perms, right?
L372[15:26:44] <Wobbo> Yeah, but you should use the filesystem API instead of the filesystem component
L373[15:27:41] <Symmetryc> Hmm I'm not familiar with that
L374[15:27:43] <Kenny> !op
L375[15:27:43] zsh sets mode: +o on Kenny
L376[15:27:47] <Kenny> want to bet
L377[15:27:54] <Wobbo> The filesystem API is used to use all the filesystems, while the component is just used interface with one
L378[15:28:05] <Wobbo> Symmetryc: local fs = require "filesystem"
L379[15:28:11] <Wobbo> Its as easy is that
L380[15:28:25] <Kenny> i did the filesystem.lua on git
L381[15:28:25] <Symmetryc> Wobbo: Check the file as it currently stands
L382[15:28:48] <Kenny> and those are the ones that are different between oc and cc
L383[15:28:49] <Symmetryc> Kenny: You know you could've just done
L384[15:28:55] <Symmetryc> function a = b
L385[15:28:58] <Symmetryc> over
L386[15:29:05] <Kenny> :P
L387[15:29:10] <Symmetryc> function a(...) return b(...) end
L388[15:29:19] <Wobbo> I don't think that the filesystem component even has a concat function
L389[15:29:27] <Kenny> it does
L390[15:29:42] <Wobbo> Isn't that the filesystem module?
L391[15:29:50] <Kenny> i ripped both CC.zip and OC.jar apart to check
L392[15:29:56] <^v> Symmetryc, thats stupid
L393[15:29:59] <^v> a=b
L394[15:30:05] <Symmetryc> I meant that...
L395[15:30:06] <^v> oh, derp
L396[15:30:08] <Symmetryc> :P
L397[15:30:11] <Symmetryc> local a = b
L398[15:31:03] <Symmetryc> Wobbo: Can you merge then change it to local fs = require "filesystem"?
L399[15:31:12] <Kenny> Symmetryc, what the hell?
L400[15:31:28] <Kenny> Wat and all it contains is ...
L401[15:31:28] <Symmetryc> Kenny: ?
L402[15:31:53] <Kenny> your pull request
L403[15:31:56] <Symmetryc> Yeah, because I figured that the improvement was obvious lol
L404[15:32:28] <Symmetryc> I changed it from redefining all the functions and called their counterparts to simply being their counterparts
L405[15:32:31] <Kenny> but you forgot one minor detail
L406[15:32:37] <Symmetryc> ^?
L407[15:32:45] <Wobbo> Kenny, I guess you looked at the filesystem API, because when I for pairs do print end it in the lua shell, it doesn't show concat
L408[15:32:48] <Kenny> it takes a damn variable
L409[15:32:59] <Symmetryc> Kenny: What do you mean?
L410[15:33:20] <Wobbo> Kenny, that doesn't matter, he is just copying over the functions whole.
L411[15:33:21] <Kenny> fs.remove is fs.remove(name)
L412[15:33:41] <Kenny> they take a parameter
L413[15:33:43] <Wobbo> His code is correct.
L414[15:34:02] <Wobbo> Similar things are happening in ccCompat.lua
L415[15:34:24] <^v> Kenny, ill be making the filesystem now :>
L416[15:34:45] <^v> no neid to reimplement it now
L417[15:35:10] <Symmetryc> Kenny: it's making it the same function essentially, so its not like it calls ccFS then redirects it with no variables, but rather ccFS _is_ it
L418[15:35:32] <Symmetryc> It's a bit hard to explain to someone who's only been using Lua for 1.5 weeks :P
L419[15:36:07] <Kenny> now if that don't work i am going to kick someone's ass
L420[15:36:26] <Kenny> i had to decompile cc to get the damn functions for it
L421[15:37:08] <Wobbo> Kenny: you can also find the functions on the CC wiki: http://www.computercraft.info/wiki/Category:APIs
L422[15:37:18] <Kenny> i spent almost 2 hours going through CC's files and OC's files to see just wjat was different in the file system
L423[15:37:37] <Symmetryc> Kenny: Another pull req
L424[15:37:37] <Kenny> i hate their freaking wiki. too hard to find shit
L425[15:37:38] <Symmetryc> :P
L426[15:37:52] <Wobbo> True
L427[15:38:22] <^v> https://github.com/P-T-/vfs/blob/master/API/vfs
L428[15:39:04] <^v> it has all the error checking of CCs vanilla fs api
L429[15:39:09] <Kenny> i'm not sending it through, Symm. you screwed up
L430[15:39:11] <Kenny> +ccTerm.getSize = gpu.getResolution()
L431[15:39:12] <^v> should be easy to port to OC
L432[15:39:17] <Kenny> those aren't the same
L433[15:39:34] <Kenny> both take parametrs but you only show one taking a parameter
L434[15:40:07] <Kenny> hmmmm. me goofed. they don't take parameters but they are the same
L435[15:40:15] <Kenny> aren't*
L436[15:40:22] <Symmetryc> Kenny:
L437[15:40:24] <Symmetryc> ?
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L439[15:40:35] <Kenny> +ccTerm.getSize = gpu.getResolution()
L440[15:40:38] <Symmetryc> Kenny: In the original file they were used as the same thing...
L441[15:40:59] <Kenny> you have the () on the end of one but not the other, why?
L442[15:41:30] <Symmetryc> That was an accident, I changed it literally one second after I committed
L443[15:41:46] <Kenny> if i try to use these and they fail i am going to be one very pissed off person
L444[15:42:22] <Symmetryc> Kenny: Hey man, I was only changing it to a faster equivalent of what it was before :P
L445[15:42:36] <Symmetryc> If it doesn't work now, then it wouldn't've worked before I saw it lol
L446[15:46:00] <Kenny> before if it had parameters they got passed. now i don't see any parameters getting passed from one to the opther
L447[15:46:36] <Kenny> and Wobbo, never think there isn
L448[15:46:45] <Kenny> 't an admin here hehe
L449[15:46:56] <Wobbo> True ;)
L450[15:46:57] zsh sets mode: +o on SpiritedDusty
L451[15:47:05] <Kenny> speak of a devil
L452[15:47:12] <Kenny> !deop
L453[15:47:13] zsh sets mode: -o on Kenny
L454[15:48:01] <Wobbo> Kenny, symmetric didn't call the functions, but he copied them. Like you do with strings or tables. So parameters aren't necessary.
L455[15:49:46] <Wobbo> I did the same with talbe.unpack
L456[15:49:46] <Kenny> but if it don't work i'm going to be very pissed, cause i spent nearly 2 hours this morning comparing CC and OC filesystems
L457[15:52:44] <Kenny> Wobbo, i added you as a collaborator so you can make chnages without a pull request
L458[15:54:20] <Kenny> Symmetryc, same for you
L459[15:54:26] <Wobbo> So should I judge the pull requests of others?
L460[15:54:48] <Kenny> you can if you want. you are more knowledgeable about it than me
L461[15:55:10] <Kenny> i've only been programming in lua for about 2-3 weeks
L462[15:56:05] <Wobbo> You are not doing bad then :)
L463[15:57:06] <SpiritedDusty> Wobbo, I think I have a way to get setfenv and getfenv working in lua 5.2
L464[15:57:38] <Wobbo> Well, give it a try I would say ;)
L465[15:57:41] <SpiritedDusty> you could set a metatable on the global environment and have that change dynamicly
L466[15:57:54] <SpiritedDusty> maybe it'll work
L467[15:58:02] <Wobbo> Hmm… for ccCompat that might work
L468[15:58:18] <Wobbo> Wouldn't do it for all your functions though :P
L469[15:58:22] <SpiritedDusty> yeah and since OC has debug.traceback, we can use that for getfenv
L470[15:58:32] <SpiritedDusty> what do you mean wouldn't do it for all functions?
L471[15:58:46] <Wobbo> It might give you a lot of overhead
L472[16:00:33] <Wobbo> each call to a function would have to look for its environment, if I understand you correcly
L473[16:00:36] <Wobbo> *correctly
L474[16:01:24] <SpiritedDusty> well yeah we could warp each function in a wrapper
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L480[16:28:42] <SpiritedDusty> Wobbo, what is the point of the 'start' enviornment?
L481[16:28:55] <Wobbo> To stuff in some functions already
L482[16:29:23] <SpiritedDusty> hm I guess
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L484[16:38:35] <Wobbo> I'm going
L485[16:38:38] <Wobbo> bye!
L486[16:39:06] <^v> D:
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L489[16:44:47] <Kenny> Dusty, remember that program i'm porting over?
L490[16:44:52] <SpiritedDusty> yeah
L491[16:45:05] <Kenny> think i should just go ahead and fork it?
L492[16:45:10] <SpiritedDusty> yeah
L493[16:46:11] <Kenny> done hehe
L494[16:46:58] <Kenny> you'll be getting an email hehe
L495[16:47:29] <Kenny> i have it partly working now
L496[16:47:36] <SpiritedDusty> yeah my phone just made a notification :P
L497[16:47:59] <Kenny> i can access the main menu, and use the mouse with it
L498[16:48:55] <Kenny> i've chnaged it out to where it doesn't download the themes now but they are still available
L499[16:49:56] <Kenny> i just got started on working on the filesystem aspect in opening/creating as what was in it doesn't work with OC
L500[16:50:27] <Kenny> then the final piece is going to be the most fun
L501[16:50:43] <Kenny> the editor
L502[16:52:11] <Kenny> i'm slowly getting there hehe
L503[16:55:40] <Kenny> ok, time to run some cops off the road and see how many i can take down hehe
L504[17:06:10] <Symmetryc> Kenny: I think the names of the bit functions are off
L505[17:06:23] <Symmetryc> Might want to check the CC Wiki
L506[17:06:49] <^v> you sure
L507[17:07:11] <^v> bit.band,bit.bxor,bit.blshift,etc
L508[17:13:11] <Symmetryc> In the code, Kenny/Wobbo put it as bit.and, bit.xor, bit.or, etc.
L509[17:13:29] <Symmetryc> Note the missing b's in the function names
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L515[17:38:52] <Kenny> i didn't put the bit code in :P
L516[17:38:58] <SpiritedDusty> oh I put it in
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L518[17:40:49] <Kenny> i think Symmetryc is going blind
L519[17:41:04] <Kenny> or the bees just got to him
L520[17:41:25] <Symmetryc> I may already be blind :P
L521[17:42:17] <Kenny> actually my eyes are getting toasted lol
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L523[17:44:33] <^v> Kenny, Pixel toasted?
L524[17:56:30] <Kenny> nope
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L527[18:32:36] <SpiritedDusty> huh I just noticed Sangar is missing
L528[18:34:05] <LordFokas> find Sangar -r --path /
L529[18:34:21] <LordFokas> yup, he's missing.
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L531[18:40:06] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar is missing! the world is now ending
L532[18:40:37] <^v> no, the end is beginning
L533[18:43:00] <Symmetryc> Hmm
L534[18:43:03] <Symmetryc> I'm bored D:O
L535[18:43:06] <Symmetryc> :D
L536[18:43:34] <Symmetryc> I hate it when you accidently hit the wrong key on a smiley lol
L537[18:44:05] <^v> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W7rzNiuRLE
L538[18:44:07] <^v> smiely key
L539[18:44:37] <Symmetryc> wat
L540[18:59:55] <Kenny> he logged off about 6 hours ago
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L554[22:09:32] <^v> brainf^vk is a irc bot made in brainfuck
L555[22:09:46] <^v> though its probably too late for anyone to be interested in it :P
L556[22:10:08] <SpiritedDusty> BRAINFUCK?
L557[22:10:14] <^v> yes.
L558[22:10:29] <SpiritedDusty> you might as well code it in LOLCODE
L559[22:11:17] <^v> SpiritedDusty, too easy
L560[22:11:36] <^v> I CAN HAZ SpiritedDusty
L561[22:11:42] <SpiritedDusty> :P
L562[22:11:48] <^v> AWSUM THX
L563[22:12:05] <^v> VISIBLE "NOP"
L564[22:12:08] <^v> O NOES
L565[22:12:19] <^v> INVISIBLE "YEY"
L566[22:12:26] <^v> KTHXBAI
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L568[22:13:47] <^v> D:
L569[22:13:55] <^v> so ima make it less derpy
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L572[22:23:29] zsh sets mode: +o on Ir7_o
L573[22:23:31] <Ir7_o> hahah
L574[22:23:32] <Ir7_o> :P
L575[22:23:33] <Ir7_o> http://prntscr.com/2ueih9
L576[22:23:39] <Ir7_o> anyone around?
L577[22:27:43] <^v> yeah
L578[22:27:52] <^v> Ir7_o, wana see my brainfuck IRC bot?
L579[22:27:53] <^v> http://pastebin.com/kUBUb4ps
L580[22:29:30] <SpiritedDusty> ohai Ir7_o
L581[22:29:40] <SpiritedDusty> hows linux?
L582[22:31:04] <Ir7_o> working on it
L583[22:31:12] <SpiritedDusty> do you need help?
L584[22:31:25] <Ir7_o> nah, i am running and test some stuff on a vm
L585[22:31:38] <SpiritedDusty> ah ok
L586[22:31:40] <Ir7_o> i want to run nginx but dont know if i can using plesk.
L587[22:31:50] <SpiritedDusty> I think plesk has a linux version doesn't it?
L588[22:32:08] <Ir7_o> plesk does support apache.
L589[22:32:13] <Ir7_o> but i dont think nginx
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L591[22:32:41] <Ir7_o> apache isnt to bad
L592[22:32:56] <Ir7_o> partly nginx because of Jade/HAML
L593[22:32:57] <^v> brainf^vk is coded in brainfuck
L594[22:33:07] <Ir7_o> thats awesome.
L595[22:33:24] <^v> 3 fucking days straight of coding
L596[22:33:29] <Ir7_o> my bouncer is unrealible.
L597[22:33:34] <Ir7_o> haha
L598[22:33:46] <Ir7_o> i recoded jbouncer.
L599[22:33:51] <Ir7_o> i really fucked it.
L600[22:33:55] <SpiritedDusty> lol
L601[22:34:02] <Ir7_o> i now cant get the source again.. grr
L602[22:34:10] <SpiritedDusty> i'm using ZNC, and it seems quite stable
L603[22:34:19] <Ir7_o> nah, i dont like znc.
L604[22:34:22] <^v> its impossible to write a bouncer in brainfuck <_> it requires asyncronous sockets
L605[22:34:33] <Ir7_o> i connect to freenode too
L606[22:34:43] <Ir7_o> jbouncer does a good job of multiple sessions
L607[22:34:49] <SpiritedDusty> what version of plesk are you using?
L608[22:34:53] <Ir7_o> 11
L609[22:35:13] <SpiritedDusty> I was looking around online and it says nginx should be in there
L610[22:35:18] <Ir7_o> i need to speak to the company about it first
L611[22:35:30] <Ir7_o> i will swap
L612[22:35:36] <Ir7_o> mainly because of Jade and HAML
L613[22:35:42] <SpiritedDusty> hm?
L614[22:35:49] <Ir7_o> (NodeJS)
L615[22:35:53] <SpiritedDusty> ah
L616[22:35:55] <SpiritedDusty> i love nodejs
L617[22:36:08] <Ir7_o> what is ubuntu desktop like?
L618[22:36:15] <Ir7_o> i kinda like GUIs
L619[22:36:17] <SpiritedDusty> its like any other desktop
L620[22:36:22] <Ir7_o> laggy?
L621[22:36:29] <SpiritedDusty> not that bad
L622[22:36:32] <Ir7_o> ok
L623[22:36:40] <SpiritedDusty> you don't like the command line? :P
L624[22:36:45] <Ir7_o> would it beworth centos?
L625[22:36:56] <Ir7_o> (i do but, i do like GUI's aswell)
L626[22:37:06] <Ir7_o> be-worth doing*
L627[22:37:18] <SpiritedDusty> hm..
L628[22:37:23] <Ir7_o> i hear its better for enterprise stuff
L629[22:37:31] <Ir7_o> (good for webhosting)
L630[22:37:39] <SpiritedDusty> yeah I heard centos is better for larger things
L631[22:38:03] <^v> SpiritedDusty, luvit it better than node.js
L632[22:38:03] <Ir7_o> let me search around
L633[22:38:23] <Ir7_o> whats it like running bungeecord on ubuntu?
L634[22:38:25] <SpiritedDusty> ubuntu doesn't really seem recommended for servers that much
L635[22:38:26] <Ir7_o> anyone done it?
L636[22:38:34] <SpiritedDusty> should be the same as on windows
L637[22:38:42] <^v> ubuntu sux
L638[22:38:51] <Stary2001> ^
L639[22:39:00] <Ir7_o> anyone agree? http://www.maketecheasier.com/choosing-the-best-linux-distro-for-a-web-server/
L640[22:39:18] <Stary2001> imo, debisn
L641[22:39:20] <Stary2001> debian
L642[22:39:29] <Ir7_o> ok
L643[22:39:33] <^v> yes debian
L644[22:39:33] <SpiritedDusty> debian is a lot easier to use for new linux
L645[22:39:42] <^v> ubuntu shouldnt be on that list
L646[22:39:44] <Ir7_o> does CentOS run smoothly with MangoDB
L647[22:39:57] <Ir7_o> (i am not new to linux)
L648[22:40:05] <Ir7_o> (just new to remote management for linux)
L649[22:40:05] <^v> Ir7_o, linux in general runs smoothly l_l
L650[22:40:15] <Ir7_o> :P
L651[22:40:15] <SpiritedDusty> ah remote management
L652[22:40:40] <Ir7_o> (like: i know cd/ls/rm/mkdir/etc)
L653[22:40:42] <Ir7_o> :P
L654[22:40:47] <Ir7_o> (nah i know more)
L655[22:41:01] <SpiritedDusty> well yeah just like ^v said, generally everything runs smooth with any linux
L656[22:41:06] <Ir7_o> ok
L657[22:41:29] <Ir7_o> i am just worried about moving databases from windows to linux and php applications (charsets etc)
L658[22:41:40] <Ir7_o> otherwise, i would be doing it now
L659[22:41:53] <SpiritedDusty> well if you're using the same version of whatever DB software you're using then there shouldn't be any issues at all
L660[22:42:07] <Ir7_o> hmm ok
L661[22:42:13] <Ir7_o> i will take a search around..
L662[22:42:18] <Ir7_o> but 1 question
L663[22:42:27] <Ir7_o> using PuTTy (or whatever)
L664[22:42:50] <Ir7_o> can i have multiple terms up and close the program, relog and they will still be there?
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L666[22:43:12] <SpiritedDusty> as in have all the stuff that was previously running, I don't think so
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L668[22:43:26] <SpiritedDusty> but as in like saving the remote connections as favorites or whatever, I think yeah its hould
L669[22:43:40] <Ir7_o> so how can i run mc servers?
L670[22:43:51] <SpiritedDusty> you can run things as a service
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L672[22:43:55] <SpiritedDusty> heya wired
L673[22:43:58] <^v> Ir7_o, getting java :|
L674[22:44:03] <Wired98> Hi there Dusty.
L675[22:44:04] <^v> then running it
L676[22:44:09] <Ir7_o> how?!
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L678[22:44:17] <SpiritedDusty> the SSH doesn't have to be tied with the MC server
L679[22:44:34] <^v> apt cache search jre7
L680[22:44:41] <Ir7_o> ok. so to run it as a service then pull up the terminal again?
L681[22:44:51] <^v> usually i just use a tty
L682[22:45:03] <^v> though a resumable ssh session works
L683[22:45:23] <Ir7_o> ok..
L684[22:45:30] <Ir7_o> i will look into it more.
L685[22:47:12] <Wired2coffee> Hey, Ir7_o, if you'd like to run a program in the background in ssh, type the & symbol after the command.
L686[22:47:46] <^v> what feature should i add to brainf^vk
L687[22:48:03] <^v> it currently just replies to ping
L688[22:50:03] <Wired2coffee> If you wanna know something about bash/shell, just ask me on Skype, Ir7_o.
L689[22:51:14] <^v> wat about mei D:
L690[22:51:36] <Wired2coffee> Well, you can ask too, but I didn't know you needed anything done in bash o_o
L691[22:51:51] * ^v shoves the source code to brainf^vk in Wired2coffee's face http://pastebin.com/kUBUb4ps
L692[22:51:58] <^v> Wired2coffee, i dont
L693[22:52:01] <^v> i just know bash
L694[22:54:00] <Wired2coffee> Yeah, I'm not gonna go download a brainfk compiler just to see what that does.
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L698[22:55:27] <Ir7_o> crashed (dusty)
L699[22:55:38] <SpiritedDusty> oh lol
L700[22:56:30] <^v> Wired2coffee, why a compiler .-.
L701[22:56:59] <Wired2coffee> Huh? Is brainfk interpreted?
L702[22:57:06] <^v> it can be both
L703[22:57:14] <Wired2coffee> Huh, cool.
L704[22:57:15] <^v> i just inturpret it for debugging purposes
L705[22:57:44] <Wired2coffee> Well, both the binary and the source are about equally readable.
L706[22:58:53] <^v> also instead of ,. being stdin/stdout it uses sockets
L707[23:00:28] <Ir7_o> is there a centos version of desktop?
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L710[23:01:02] <Wired2coffee> Never screwed around with centOS too much, just google if there are any compatible WM/DEs
L711[23:01:29] <SpiritedDusty> oh wells
L712[23:01:43] <SpiritedDusty> gotta go now
L713[23:01:44] <SpiritedDusty> cya
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L716[23:02:07] <Ir7_o> bye
L717[23:02:38] <^v> from 3.01 kb to 2.58
L718[23:02:52] <^v> optermized the pong string
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