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L48[12:43:32] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw> up?
L49[12:43:50] <cpw> hmmm
L50[12:43:55] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw> yup
L51[12:44:09] <ForgeDiscord> <gigaherz> yeah no one has spoken in a bit
L52[12:44:21] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw> it's pretty dead ?
L53[12:44:32] <ForgeDiscord> <gigaherz> everoyne moved here to the discord :P
L54[12:44:34] <ForgeDiscord> <JamiesWhiteShirt> oh, it was never down? sorry
L55[12:44:36] <Corosus> rip
L56[12:44:41] <ForgeDiscord> <JamiesWhiteShirt> I guess we've made it obsolete
L57[12:44:54] <gigaherz> I still love your, IRC :P
L58[12:44:58] <gigaherz> you*
L59[12:45:02] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw> oi, go back to playing your vanilla vechs map @Corosus ?
L60[12:45:23] <Corosus> wot, i aint no mojang employee, wrong co*
L61[12:45:34] <ForgeDiscord> <cpw> LOL sorry!
L62[12:45:36] <Corosus> also yes, irc fo lyfe
L63[12:45:39] <Corosus> xD
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L83[17:26:13] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> IRC?
L84[17:26:21] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Is it dead already
L85[17:26:50] <ForgeDiscord> <Chocohead> It'll never die completely
L86[17:27:00] <ForgeDiscord> <Chocohead> Especially not with Discord's attitude
L87[17:27:53] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Discord's attitude?
L88[17:29:08] <gigaherz> specially not while I live
L89[17:29:09] <gigaherz> :P
L90[17:30:09] <xaero> dw IRC will take discord refugees when the climate becomes unbearable ^.^
L91[17:30:14] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> : P
L92[17:30:20] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Aah
L93[17:30:32] <ForgeDiscord> <JamiesWhiteShirt> some people will refuse to join the singularity
L94[17:30:44] <ForgeDiscord> <JamiesWhiteShirt> because they have their setup just how they want it
L95[17:31:21] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> I guess some people would even refuse its existence
L96[17:37:30] <ForgeDiscord> <Chocohead> At the end of the day Discord has different overheads to IRC
L97[17:37:50] <ForgeDiscord> <Chocohead> So it probably can't ever be as clean as IRC hold outs might want
L98[17:38:04] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> I see
L99[17:38:24] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> I guess discord won't be clean code-wise
L100[17:38:45] <Disconsented> The day discord gets functional ignores and sane notification settings is the day I move
L101[17:38:53] <Disconsented> Which at this rate is never
L102[17:39:10] <ForgeDiscord> <Chocohead> It's beyond just the implementation, you're still bound to their servers over being able to host your own
L103[17:39:24] <ForgeDiscord> <Chocohead> And the privacy concerns attached to that
L104[17:39:30] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> What do ya mean by “functional ignites”?
L105[17:39:39] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Aah I see
L106[17:39:49] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> And same with the notification settings, what are you looking for ?
L107[17:39:50] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Discord server hosts all the servers
L108[17:40:04] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> Sorry “functional Ignores”
L109[17:41:34] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> Mmm true true about the servers. But that’s also a benefit to some, no overhead for the users of it. There’s upsides and downsides for every platform. Discord is easy to use but not as feature rich / customisable. And IRC isn’t as simple for a normal person, but is greatly customisable and feature rich
L110[17:42:55] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> I think the thing is that as the industry ages, we’re going to see less users of irc (not only irc) as newer generations get used to other services and etc. But I can’t tell the future. And I’m sure irc will always be loved by many
L111[17:46:24] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> meh IRC will be around after discord is long gone and it will still be here when the next new thing comes out hell it will be here till the day the earth asplodes :P
L112[17:46:42] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Yea
L113[17:46:57] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> discord is nice but odds are it wone last till something else becomes the new hotness
L114[17:47:06] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> wont*
L115[17:47:21] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> I’m sure it’ll last a long time. But I’m also sure someone is going to eventually learn from IRC’s success and make a new platform that’s similar.
L116[17:47:28] <ForgeDiscord> <Chocohead> It's done better than what Curse offered at least
L117[17:47:34] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> True
L118[17:47:38] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> And better than Skype XD
L119[17:47:46] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> thats because curse had contempt for their userbase
L120[17:47:53] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> some say they still do
L121[17:48:01] <ForgeDiscord> <Chocohead> Skype lasted for a very long time in comparison
L122[17:48:01] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> And teamspeak, holy crap XD
L123[17:48:18] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> it did, but it’s almost dead now, other than the people that are stubborn
L124[17:48:19] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Teamspeak XD
L125[17:48:26] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> But there are people using it still
L126[17:48:37] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> Teamspeak still has better user management that discord >.>
L127[17:48:38] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> (Or whole big community)
L128[17:48:44] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Ooh
L129[17:48:47] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Didn't know that
L130[17:48:49] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> Of course there is still people using it XD
L131[17:48:55] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> thats my biggest gripe
L132[17:49:16] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> the built in mod/admin tools kinda suck on discord
L133[17:49:41] <gigaherz> had this conversation a few times already
L134[17:49:50] <gigaherz> the only advantages you get from a platform like Discord, over IRC
L135[17:49:56] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> Of course, and we’ll have it many more times XD
L136[17:50:23] <gigaherz> are persistent history, integrated hosting, and integrated communication (voice/video chat)
L137[17:50:23] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> Voice chat would be one, but some people don’t view that as an advantage XD
L138[17:50:31] <ForgeDiscord> <Asherslab [MineColonies]> Mm true
L139[17:50:43] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Persistent History
L140[17:50:45] <gigaherz> literally everything else discord does, can be done on IRC
L141[17:50:56] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> This is the only reason I like discord
L142[17:50:58] <gigaherz> and those 3 features can be done with the help of external services
L143[17:51:09] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Oh
L144[17:51:18] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> We may better just use IRC...
L145[17:51:33] <gigaherz> history -> BNCs that remain connected for you
L146[17:51:53] <gigaherz> hosting -> dropbox/gdrive/onedrive/...
L147[17:52:07] <gigaherz> voice/video -> just give someone a hangouts link or whatever
L148[17:52:40] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> naverdrive
L149[17:52:40] <gigaherz> but everything else?
L150[17:52:47] <gigaherz> integrated emoji? client-side feature
L151[17:52:57] <gigaherz> embedding previews of URLs? client-side feature
L152[17:53:08] <gigaherz> playback of video/gif? client-side feature
L153[17:53:23] <gigaherz> etc
L154[17:53:41] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Yea
L155[17:53:52] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> I do like having a kitchen sink client its why I hope matrix becomes the next big thing but the client for matrix is horrible :(
L156[17:54:09] <gigaherz> in the ReactOS project, we have been discussing alternative clients
L157[17:54:24] <gigaherz> we don't plan on ditching IRC any time soon
L158[17:54:38] <gigaherz> but people have expressed their interest in being able to make use of the extra features
L159[17:55:06] <gigaherz> matrix is a big contender as our #1 due to it being opensource
L160[17:55:27] <gigaherz> and freenode having matrix gateway
L161[17:55:31] <gigaherz> so you can connect to IRC from the matrix client :p
L162[17:55:59] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> I did that for a while but espernet netsplits made authing kinda annoying
L163[17:57:12] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> What about a separate client
L164[17:57:38] <gigaherz> separate client for?
L165[17:59:07] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Developing an entirely new client with clean code
L166[17:59:16] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> With great features included
L167[17:59:20] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> ; P
L168[17:59:43] <ForgeDiscord> </dev/illy> I am working on a client for matrix but time and time and that other thing im missing called time
L169[18:01:27] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Aah
L170[18:01:34] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> At least you're not procrastinating
L171[18:01:39] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> I like that : P
L172[18:01:49] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> (Really, I hate me procrastinating)
L173[18:03:35] <gigaherz> Abastro: ...for discord? or irc? orwhat?
L174[18:05:10] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> An IRC client with the additional features using what you said
L175[18:14:28] <gigaherz> IRCCloud?
L176[18:15:33] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Why cloud?
L177[18:15:57] <gigaherz> I mean there's an existing thing called IRCCloud
L178[18:16:16] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Ooh, what does that do?
L179[18:16:19] <gigaherz> IRCCloud acts as a proxy/bouncer, keeping itself logged into irc for you
L180[18:16:30] <gigaherz> so that when you open the app/website, you can see old messages
L181[18:16:51] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> I see, that's great
L182[18:17:35] <gigaherz> back when I still had a job, I worked with a macbook, and I used a client called LimeChat iirc
L183[18:17:47] <gigaherz> that client woudl show thumbnails of image links
L184[18:17:55] <gigaherz> so that feature exists on at least 1 client too
L185[18:18:07] <gigaherz> as for the rest, well I'm sure some client does it too :P
L186[18:18:19] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> We need a client which combines all of them
L187[18:18:35] <ForgeDiscord> <Abastro> Btw lost a job? ohno...
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