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L20[06:00:19] <ben_mkiv> stellar sky/api
feels like a minute to sync on login and never timed me out. and
also i have that timeouts on ftb revelation but also possible that
this is server related
L21[06:00:52] <ben_mkiv> so more likely
some issue with some mod doing a deadlock or something
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L36[09:37:49] <axel> where can i find lang
files for vanilla+
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L48[12:13:05] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> how can I make tooltips from addInformation to be
only shown when shift is pressed?
L49[12:13:36] <axel> im pretty sure you can
just check if shift is pressed directly
L50[12:13:54] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> might that be the tooltipflag isAdvanced?
L51[12:14:06] <axel> no, thats for debug
mode (f3+h)
L52[12:14:46] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> and how would I check for shift directly? never did
anything with keybindings so far in my mods
L53[12:24:47] <gigaherz> player.isSneaking
is usually what we do
L54[12:24:47] <gigaherz> :P
L55[12:26:29] <gigaherz> no wait that
probably won't work on GUI use
L56[12:26:34] <gigaherz> in one of my mods
I do
L57[12:26:36] <gigaherz> if
(!Keyboard.isKeyDown(Keyboard.KEY_LSHIFT) &&
!Keyboard.isKeyDown(Keyboard.KEY_RSHIFT))
L59[12:27:00] <gigaherz> but that is
hardcoded to shift
L60[12:27:11] <gigaherz> if someone changes
the key used to sneak, it will still be shift
L61[12:29:58] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> yeah that is okay
L62[12:30:06] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> I use the same style as therma expansion does
L63[12:30:13] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> Hold Shift for details
L64[12:31:10] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> Thanks for info
L65[12:31:13] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> seems to work fine ?
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L67[12:47:09] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> hm how can I decrease the knockback a projectile I
use deals?
L68[12:53:53] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> or rather, how can I make a damagesource not
knockback a target when I use attackEntityFrom with it?
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L73[13:24:30] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> totally the wrong chat, but enderio dimensional
transceivers
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L75[13:43:58] <ben_mkiv> or mekanism
quantum entangloporter
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L89[16:15:30] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> nobody an idea on how to remove knockback from a
projectile?
L90[16:20:44] <gigaherz> no idea
sorry
L91[16:23:51] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> I think the culprit may be in
attackEntityFrom
L92[16:24:07] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> maybe I need to do the damage calculations myself
and just use setHealth then
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L100[17:17:15] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> I need a good mnemonic for remembering if
isRemote means client or server. I forget every time.
L101[17:17:59] <gigaherz> think of who is
the brains of the game
L102[17:18:00] <gigaherz> the
server.
L103[17:18:07] <gigaherz> so who's the
"remote"? the clients connecting to it
L104[17:18:27] <gigaherz> local = server =
the one processing the logic of the game
L105[17:18:32] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> Hrmm, okay. I guess remote to me kind of
implies "server far away", which causes some
confusion.
L106[17:18:34] <gigaherz> remote = the
clients connecting from who knows where
L107[17:18:48] <gigaherz> yeah because you
think as a player
L108[17:18:58] <gigaherz> but this is
about who's processing the logic
L109[17:19:01] <gigaherz> and that's the
server
L110[17:19:11] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> Okay, think of it from the server's
perspective. That makes sense.
L111[17:19:44] <gigaherz> or if you
want
L112[17:19:46] <gigaherz> think of a
TV
L113[17:19:55] <gigaherz> the person
sitting on the couch, has the remote in their hands
L114[17:20:01] <gigaherz> :P
L115[17:20:40] <gigaherz> so who is
remote, the broadcast station, or the tv?
L116[17:20:48] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> I'll try your first suggestion. :) TV one just
makes me think "guy with remote is in charge, so... wait
that's not right".
L117[17:21:12] <gigaherz> yeah I'd very
much prefer if it was isServer
L118[17:21:15] <gigaherz> rather than
isRemote
L119[17:21:23] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> Concur
L120[17:21:27] <gigaherz> ofc the logic
would be inverse
L121[17:21:36] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> isClient then. Either way.
L122[17:21:38] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> isnt this fine for loading a string from a bytebuf
in 1.12?
L123[17:21:39] <ForgeDiscord>
<Keridos> int length = buf.readInt(); String name = new
String(buf.readBytes(length).array());
L124[17:21:49] <gigaherz> no that'd still
be confusing, in the case of integrated server in the client
L125[17:21:50] <gigaherz> :P
L126[17:22:05] <gigaherz> @Keridos:
ByteBufUtils.readUtf8string
L127[17:22:09] <gigaherz> don't do it
manually.
L128[17:22:16] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> isLogicalClient, isPhysicalClient?
L129[17:23:20] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> Or more generally: physical == CLIENT, logical
== SERVER.
L130[17:24:19] <gigaherz> what no that
makes no sense XD
L131[17:24:42] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> Please gigaherz, I'm an expert.
L132[17:24:54] <gigaherz> just repeat to
yourself "remote is client, remote is client, ..."
L133[17:24:55] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> I work on Forge modding at least once a
month.
L134[17:24:56] <gigaherz> XD
L135[17:25:10] <quadraxis> ghz, !fh
isRemote
L136[17:26:30] <gigaherz> quadraxis: yeah
it has been isClientWorld more than once, was changed back every
time
L137[17:27:11] <gigaherz> isRemote is
still confusing to most people, so I do wish it was inverted and it
was isServer, NOT isClient because that's still ambiguous
L138[17:28:04] <ForgeDiscord>
<SquareWheel> Why was it reverted? Too many breaking
changes?
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L141[17:44:14] <gigaherz> !mh
isHidden
L142[17:44:26] <gigaherz> !mh
containsRecipe
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L170[21:51:47] <AGSPhoenix> Hey guys, is
there any way non-insane to create a compatibility layer to work
across multiple versions of MC? I'm thinking of a system for
mapping changed attribute names to known names, and functions for
each MC version in cases where functionality actually changes. Does
such a system already exist in some set of annotations or gradle
wizardry?
L171[21:52:30] <AGSPhoenix> I'm not
looking for something to build a single jar that is compatible with
multiple MC versions, I just want a single codebase that can build
to multiple MC versions
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L173[22:03:13] <ForgeDiscord> <mezz>
compatibility layers have been attempted but all have failed. the
game is not stable enough to justify it in most cases
L175[22:05:54] <ForgeDiscord> <mezz>
it basically created an API that was stable across multiple
versions. the mods build on top would depend on that API, and the
implementation of CompatLayer would be a separate jar for each
supported version of Minecraft
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L178[22:10:24] <ForgeDiscord> <mezz>
for smaller or more focused mods, it is entirely possible to do it
I think
L179[22:10:47] <ForgeDiscord> <mezz>
but as a general solution, it's a bit too ambitious to try
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L181[22:12:04] <AGSPhoenix> Interesting,
looking over the code now
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L183[22:20:06] <AGSPhoenix> It looks like
this was designed to carefully avoid referencing anything that
wasn't present in both versions of the game, so that it will build
for either, a limitation that makes this kinda useless.
L184[22:21:20] <AGSPhoenix> Is there
nothing like the C preprocessor for Java where you can just tack
version numbers on code and the compiler will only evaluate the
sections relevant to the version you're building for?
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L186[22:22:31] <ForgeDiscord>
<killjoy> just make an api for it
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L188[22:23:26] <AGSPhoenix> Can you
elaborate?
L189[22:24:56] <ForgeDiscord> <mezz>
for things that are different in the two versions, compatlayer
added an API to abstract it away. for things that are the same you
just code normally
L190[22:25:30] <ForgeDiscord> <mezz>
as far as I understand, with java there is no way to import
multiple versions of minecraft and code against them, but build
against only one
L191[22:31:39] <AGSPhoenix> Okay, I think
I have a pretty good idea of how I can accomplish what I want,
thanks for the resources guys
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L193[22:40:46] <ForgeDiscord> <mezz>
cool
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