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L41[06:57:47] <malte0811> Has anyone else gotten reports of issues with LAN multiplayer and the networking changes in forge? https://github.com/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/2621

L45[07:10:53] <quadraxis> there was a thread on the forum

L46[07:10:54] <quadraxis> http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/topic/61683-forge-11222537-sp-lan-disconnects/

L47[07:12:05] <Raycoms> Hi, I just noticed that getSubBlocks doesn't work as in previous versions in 1.12 anymore, how am I supposed to implement it now?

L48[07:12:24] <Raycoms> I tried: items.add(new ItemStack(new BlockPaperwall(), 1, type.getMetadata())); but I got Found empty subBlock of Block{minecolonies:blockpaperwall}

L49[07:14:23] <ghz|afk> what?

L50[07:14:32] <ghz|afk> don't call "new" in there!

L51[07:14:36] <ghz|afk> you have the block

L52[07:14:38] <ghz|afk> it's "this"!

L53[07:14:44] <Raycoms> ah okay

L54[07:16:46] <Raycoms> That worked thanks

L55[07:17:21] <Raycoms> !latest 1.10

L56[07:17:30] <Raycoms> !latest

L64[09:31:28] <ben_mkiv> uhm, entities exist once in memory on a singleplayer instance, right?

L65[09:31:41] <ben_mkiv> and client/server share the instance

L66[09:33:02] <ghz|afk> no

L67[09:33:06] <ghz|afk> nothing shares

L68[09:33:19] <ghz|afk> integrated server has its own copy of the chunks, entities, tileentities, etc

L69[09:33:35] <ben_mkiv> thanks, i get confused all the time about it

L70[09:33:39] <ghz|afk> the client only has the client version of things, same as in multiplayer

L71[09:33:46] <ghz|afk> (client thread, that is)

L72[09:33:58] <ben_mkiv> so entity.world.isRemote should be true for the client?

L73[09:34:02] <ben_mkiv> but not for gamelogic

L74[09:34:22] <ghz|afk> world.isRemote will be true for the client-thread objects

L75[09:34:27] <ghz|afk> but false for the integrated server objects

L76[09:34:56] <ben_mkiv> good, thank you

L77[09:35:12] <ghz|afk> think of it this way: there is always a client and a server, which are separate

L78[09:35:14] <ghz|afk> but

L79[09:35:22] <ghz|afk> in singleplayer (or lan host)

L80[09:35:30] <ghz|afk> the server resides in a separate thread in the same process

L81[09:35:47] <ghz|afk> which means non-side-specific things, like your main mod class and such, ARE shared

L82[09:36:12] <ghz|afk> so, there is only one instance of your Block class

L83[09:36:15] <ghz|afk> but when it gets called

L84[09:36:20] <ghz|afk> the World passed into the parameters

L85[09:36:25] <ghz|afk> can be a client world, or a server world

L87[09:38:34] <ben_mkiv> that for example as default parameter for the entity constructor i guess

L88[09:39:24] <ghz|afk> entities aren't "singletons" though

L89[09:39:33] <ghz|afk> so they will get created on demand

L90[09:39:41] <ghz|afk> but blocks, items, etc

L91[09:39:47] <ghz|afk> there's one instance, that gets called by everyone

L92[09:41:41] <TechnicianLP> entirely different question: why does fml not work in conjunction with j9? what did java break this time?

L95[09:50:15] <barteks2x> TechnicianLP, most of the jdk internals aren't accessible even using reflection

L96[09:50:28] <barteks2x> and forge/fml relies on them a lot

L97[09:51:14] <barteks2x> even if you exclude what launchwrapper and fml does, just look at EnumHelper for example

L98[09:51:26] <TechnicianLP> so they might have fixed the bug where you could assassinate the securitymanager? sounds good and bad at the same time ...

L99[09:52:49] <TechnicianLP> looks like dark times might lay before us ...

L100[09:53:46] <barteks2x> I guess some of the relection magic will have to be replaced with bytecode modifications

L101[09:56:02] <TechnicianLP> which in the case of Enumhelper would mean editing every subclass of Enum ... (cant define classes in java.lang)

L102[10:00:52] <barteks2x> WTF is wrong with IDEA? Hotswap just doesn't work in actual forge dev environment and compiling takes *forever*

L103[10:01:01] <barteks2x> (I'm not talking about MDK)

L104[10:02:08] <barteks2x> anyone has successfully made hotswap work in forge dev environment?

L106[11:00:50] <ghz|afk> barteks2x: I haven't touched forge dev in a long time, but back when I touched it last time, it worked just fine

L107[11:01:00] <ghz|afk> (unless my memory is betraying me)

L108[11:05:43] <barteks2x> I don't remember it ever working correctly

L109[11:05:49] <barteks2x> it always did strange things

L110[11:06:09] <barteks2x> even when I changed nothing in code, it always failed with something like hierarchy change not supported

L111[11:16:32] <barteks2x> the reason you actually see all the chunks always rendered on dedicated server turns out to be just a big coincidence...

L112[11:19:44] <malte0811> Any details? What classes are relevant for that coincidence?

L113[11:29:04] <barteks2x> Mostly ViewFrustum

L114[11:29:40] <barteks2x> when server render distance is bigger than client render distance, it works bu coincidence

L115[11:31:32] <barteks2x> because when the chunks outside of the client render distance are received, it actually marks other chunks for update, those that are within view distance, twice. And then to update the newly visible chunks that are already received as you move, it relies completely on the newly received chunks from server updating the wrong chunks completely accidentally markign the right ones for update

L116[11:32:45] <barteks2x> it seems to work most of the time, but it shouldnt work. And it won't work with big render distance values in some cases

L123[12:58:41] <barteks2x> I really want a mod for terraria-style torch placement. if you breaka block the torch is on, it would try to find other block to attach to from within the block it's in

L125[13:07:22] <PaleoCrafter> write it?

L126[13:07:52] <Ordinastie> should be quite simple too

L127[13:14:56] <barteks2x> except no clue how I could do it without coremod

L162[19:22:16] <Raycoms> hi, I'm having some trouble with ore dict in 1.12

L163[19:22:50] <Raycoms> I get all ore ids of the sapling with this: OreDictionary.getOreIDs(new ItemStack(Blocks.SAPLING), then I get all ores of that with OreDictionary.getOreName(i) and add it to a list

L164[19:23:22] <Raycoms> and then I go through the decorations tab and check for all saps.getItem().getSubItems(tabs, list); for every ore I got up there

L165[19:23:52] <Raycoms> Works well in 1.10 but in 1.12 with biomes o plenty it adds many plants to it which don't belong there

L167[19:34:20] <Raycoms> someone knows the dependency I have to add to gradlew for biomes o plenty?

L169[19:49:50] <Raycoms> http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/com/github/glitchfiend/biomesoplenty/BiomesOPlenty/index_1.12.2.html Found it

L170[19:49:58] <Raycoms> No I just have to figure the gradle path

L171[19:51:18] <Raycoms> now*

L185[23:54:19] <longtomjr> Morning. I want to check if a bug is Forge related or if there is something else that is broken. How should I go about that?

L186[23:58:30] <xaero> minimal reproducible test case, divide and eliminate? depends on the issue

L187[23:58:39] <longtomjr> Here is the error log if anyone can help. :) https://paste.ee/p/6aXyn