OCLogs: 2017-06-12.log

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L14[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20170612 mappings to Forge Maven.

L15[02:00:07] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20170612-1.11.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20170612" in build.gradle).

L16[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L26[02:40:57] <killjoy> Oh no... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIShPweHYAs

L27[02:42:10] <killjoy> They should've put the slash at the end.

L28[02:42:13] <killjoy> <hyperlinked/>

L29[02:42:17] <killjoy> that would be valid xml

L30[02:44:54] <killjoy> I just spotted something in the intro

L31[02:45:39] <killjoy> <html class=""

L32[02:46:41] <killjoy> I'm pretty sure this is all just the same html with different colors.http://imgur.com/HKWORre

L33[02:47:58] <killjoy> I mean.. I'm sure it can encourage women to pursue a web dev career (or at least hobby)

L34[02:48:28] <killjoy> If only it wasn't a pre-teen disney sitcom

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L36[02:49:29] <killjoy> I wonder if there's an episode where they get hacked

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L39[02:53:47] <gigaherz|work> killjoy: I wonder if there's an episode whre they DON'T get hacked. Seems like a cliché they'll use often

L40[02:54:05] <killjoy> no, that's what iCarly did

L41[02:54:16] <killjoy> which (btw) is way better

L42[02:54:54] <killjoy> (the html code is a gimmick)

L43[02:55:33] <killjoy> They could've gotten away with them having the website as tumblr or blogger

L44[02:57:00] <killjoy> heck, even youtube would've been good

L45[02:58:07] <killjoy> ...

L46[02:58:31] <killjoy> http://imgur.com/mUoOKLF

L47[02:58:42] <killjoy> BAE

L48[03:00:09] <killjoy> The dad keeps mentioning #dadjokes

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L50[03:04:04] <killjoy> They call a live feed "comments"

L51[03:04:48] <killjoy> The only technical thing they did was almost explain how to create a smiling froyo with sprinkles emoji

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L53[03:08:30] <killjoy> That show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7lNBMGmGF0

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L58[04:18:43] <masa> hmm, so having a custom keybind category now just crashes when going to the controls menu, since there is a new private map categoryname -> Integer, with no public setters

L59[04:19:11] <masa> or rather, no way for custom categories to get added there

L60[04:19:46] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, I suppose that will be addressed some time soon, not sure if it's worth an issue

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L62[04:23:16] <TechnicianLP_> how is the "you need this advancement for that recipe" implemented? i really like that idea for one of my mods ... (but im scared most (auto-)craftingtables wont respect it ...)

L63[04:23:40] <gigaherz|work> the creafting manager asks the recipe

L64[04:23:45] <gigaherz|work> and the recipe decides if it's unlocked, I think

L65[04:24:10] <TechnicianLP_> cool

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L68[04:30:56] <gigaherz|work> TechnicianLP_: I was wrong

L69[04:31:19] <gigaherz|work> Container.java, func_192389_a

L70[04:32:00] <gigaherz|work> that function is called from onCraftMatrixChanged, to check if the items in the grid are a valid recipe

L71[04:32:05] <gigaherz|work> and THAT checks the gamerule

L72[04:32:46] <gigaherz|work> so auto-crafting systems CAN ignore it, if they want to

L73[04:32:58] <gigaherz|work> and in fact, they would HAVE to, since they aren't bound to any specific player

L74[04:33:39] <PaleoCrafter> so... watching that Hyperlinked thing...

L75[04:35:34] <gigaherz|work> Why would you do that to yourself?!

L76[04:36:24] <PaleoCrafter> gotta keep that faith in humanity down :P

L77[04:36:50] <TechnicianLP_> :( /me adds custom autocrafting tables to the todolist

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L81[04:59:08] <illy> I dont know if its my dyslexia or im just tired(I should really go to bed) or maybe a combination of both but I read "adds custom autocrafting tables to the todolist" as "adds custom autocrafting tables to the toilets"

L82[05:00:06] <TechnicianLP_> that would make some interesting recipes ...

L83[05:00:52] <illy> meh it would be a shitty mechanic

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L91[06:01:47] <johni0702> I sometimes (probably timing related) can't join SP using the latest (2322) MDK. Instead, after the integrated server has started, MC gets stuck at a "0%" dirt screen and throws exceptions into the log (fist join fine, second one stuck https://pastebin.com/raw/m9913ixK) leaving me no choice but to close MC. is that a known issue? it seems to be reliably reproducible by putting a thread-only breakpoint on the first line of NetworkDispatcher.clien

L92[06:01:47] <johni0702> tListenForServerHandshake() and thereby artificially delaying that thread by a few moments when the bp is first hit

L93[06:07:47] <PaleoCrafter> best create in issue then, cpw changed stuff about the networking, so maybe something got borked in the progress

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L97[06:14:19] <johni0702> ok, will do

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L101[06:28:57] <Intektor> Is there some kind of table that says how much a certain action cost of fe?

L102[06:41:35] <gigaherz|work> fe?

L103[06:41:39] <PaleoCrafter> Forge Energy

L104[06:41:43] <gigaherz|work> oh

L105[06:41:48] <gigaherz|work> no the system isn't that specific

L106[06:41:56] <gigaherz|work> it was just "do wahtever yo uwould have done with RF"

L107[06:42:12] <PaleoCrafter> just look at other mods that do similar things

L108[06:42:26] <kashike> I wonder if we'll see MCPE for linux :|

L109[06:42:42] <gigaherz|work> probably not

L110[06:42:57] <TechnicianLP_> wasnt android based on linux?

L111[06:43:11] <gigaherz|work> yes, but in the same sense as macos being based on unix

L112[06:43:29] <gigaherz|work> the entire userland is replaced with the android one

L113[06:43:40] <gigaherz|work> it just happens to have a linux kernel below

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L115[06:44:20] <gigaherz|work> you CAN run non-android executables, technically, but there's no environment for it

L116[06:44:30] <gigaherz|work> you need basically a rooted app to install the tools and such

L117[06:44:44] <gigaherz|work> what I mean is, mcpe is just an android application

L118[06:45:05] <gigaherz|work> the only way to run it on linux would be an android emulation layer

L119[06:45:30] <gigaherz|work> http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/03/08/run-android-apps-in-linux-with-shashlik-android-emulation-layer/

L120[06:45:41] <gigaherz|work> ends up being just an android emulator.

L121[06:46:07] <PaleoCrafter> eh, it isn't "just" an android app

L122[06:47:21] <gigaherz|work> https://github.com/MCMrARM/mcpelauncher-linux

L123[06:47:23] <gigaherz|work> LOL

L124[06:47:45] <gigaherz|work> use the android apk contents to launch mcpe specifically

L125[06:49:31] <PaleoCrafter> welp, apparently PE was first published before the actual game was released

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L127[06:50:41] <kashike> gigaherz|work: but good luck downloading an APK :P

L128[06:50:50] <gigaherz|work> they explain how ;P

L129[06:51:02] <gigaherz|work> you basically have to buy mcpe in your google account

L130[06:51:07] <gigaherz|work> and use the google play downloader tool

L131[06:51:11] <gigaherz|work> with your google account info

L132[06:51:13] <kashike> Google has changed how things work since then :P

L133[06:51:18] <gigaherz|work> ah

L134[06:51:20] <gigaherz|work> well then ;P

L135[06:51:29] <gigaherz|work> you could use an android emulator

L136[06:51:33] <kashike> https://developer.android.com/google/play/publishing/multiple-apks.html

L137[06:51:33] <gigaherz|work> to obtain the files

L138[06:51:35] <kashike> targetted apk's

L139[06:51:59] <gigaherz|work> there's also pirate sites that may provide the .apk

L140[06:52:09] <gigaherz|work> it's not nice but if you paid for it regardless

L141[06:52:10] <gigaherz|work> ;P

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L151[08:06:34] <PaleoCrafter> hm... substitutions should be working currently, right? xD

L152[08:09:31] <gigaherz|work> I believe having read people mention that they are supposed to

L153[08:09:53] <gigaherz|work> if the vagueness isn't clear enouhg: I have no actual idea

L154[08:20:55] <PaleoCrafter> yep, looks like they work just fine

L155[08:21:47] <PaleoCrafter> only have to figure out a nice way to replace existing Vanilla TEs with mine now...

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L159[08:41:48] <PaleoCrafter> welp, don't work anymore after a second run, ffs

L160[08:43:30] <PaleoCrafter> the error I'm getting appears to be virtually impossible, too: ModelLoader#loadBlocks filters the registry for all non-null registry name blocks, it's still feeding it one ...

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L163[08:53:18] <ScottehBoeh> can I use a BufferedImage as a texture resource?

L164[08:53:47] <PaleoCrafter> generally yes, depends on what exactly you want to do, though

L165[08:54:16] <ScottehBoeh> I'm wanting to work on a scary Entity 303-type mod. However I'm wanting to hide the actual skin of the mob itself

L166[08:54:34] <ScottehBoeh> plus I want to use it just to experiment

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L168[08:55:09] <ScottehBoeh> People are always saying things like "there's no herobrine or entity 303 texture in the assets folder" and I thought it'd be cool to make a scary mod that keeps that sort of rumor

L169[08:55:15] <PaleoCrafter> well... normal player skins get uploaded at runtime, so take a look at that

L170[08:55:19] <ScottehBoeh> instead of having the skin saved as a texture file, load it from a byte array

L171[08:55:25] <ScottehBoeh> I'll have a look into that

L172[08:57:12] <PaleoCrafter> god, this is terrible. substitutions seem to work fine for every block except one and there's virtually nothing different about ti

L173[08:57:31] <gigaherz|work> lol

L174[08:57:38] <gigaherz|work> (which one? ;P)

L175[08:57:42] <PaleoCrafter> the furnace

L176[08:57:53] <PaleoCrafter> interestingly enough, the lit furnace gets replaced just fine

L177[08:57:58] <gigaherz|work> lol

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L180[09:03:06] <PaleoCrafter> AHA!

L181[09:04:34] <PaleoCrafter> looks like placing the substituted blocks in-world somehow causes the registry to implode or something xD

L182[09:05:52] <ScottehBoeh> Horse armor hooks in 1.12? :3

L183[09:07:10] <gigaherz|work> write a PR? ;P

L184[09:07:17] <ScottehBoeh> Goood idea

L185[09:07:36] <ScottehBoeh> I think I'll give it a bit of time

L186[09:07:43] <ScottehBoeh> since it just came out recently

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L213[11:24:05] <h5h77> how can I get an itemstack of a specific item from another mod that isn't a necessary dependency for my mod (it's behind a check on whether the mod is loaded)?

L214[11:24:47] <PaleoCrafter> ObjectHolder, h5h77

L215[11:25:03] <PaleoCrafter> annotate an Item field with that and specify the registry name in there

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L217[11:26:25] <h5h77> thanks!

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L220[11:40:48] <bartman> do you guys think 1.12 will be the last major update for the java version?

L221[11:40:54] <ghz|afk> no

L222[11:41:02] <bartman> yeah I didn't get that either

L223[11:41:06] <bartman> why are people saying otherwise

L224[11:41:08] <ghz|afk> they seemed to have plans for 1.13 either

L225[11:41:13] <ghz|afk> eh

L226[11:41:18] <ghz|afk> they seemed to have plans for 1.13 features already

L227[11:41:27] <ghz|afk> because in the Xbox conference

L228[11:41:59] <Lord_Ralex> because people love to always yell end of the world

L229[11:42:02] <Lord_Ralex> esp with mc

L230[11:42:03] <ghz|afk> they said they are unifying the pc, console and mobile versions

L231[11:42:05] <ghz|afk> so that they can crossplay

L232[11:42:22] <ghz|afk> all of them in the same servers

L233[11:42:29] <ghz|afk> and by pc they mean windows 10

L234[11:42:31] <bartman> whats funny is didn't they do that already heh

L235[11:42:41] <ghz|afk> not really

L236[11:42:44] <Lord_Ralex> they had worked on some of it

L237[11:42:45] <bartman> I've played windows 10 version with my nephew on mobile

L238[11:42:54] <ghz|afk> yes but not with someone on xbox or switch

L239[11:43:02] <bartman> I supose so

L240[11:44:21] <quadraxis> well what they actually appear to be doing is porting pe to the xbox one and switch

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L242[11:54:53] <ghz|afk> has anyone made a mod

L243[11:55:07] <ghz|afk> that allows smaller slimes to merge into a big one

L244[11:55:14] <ghz|afk> when wandering around close together?

L245[11:55:17] <Lord_Ralex> i thought they did already

L246[11:55:19] <Lord_Ralex> or was i dumb

L247[11:55:35] <ghz|afk> I'm not aware of slimes merging

L248[11:55:46] <Lord_Ralex> i know they'd break apart, but thought they would also merge eventually

L249[11:56:20] <ghz|afk> not that I know of

L250[11:56:36] <ghz|afk> alternatively

L251[11:56:41] <ghz|afk> a mob that can eat things

L252[11:56:45] <ghz|afk> stuff around itself

L253[11:56:54] <ghz|afk> like tall grass, other mobs andcritters

L254[11:57:02] <ghz|afk> and it grows, integrating some aspect from the thing it ate

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L256[12:00:06] <PaleoCrafter> no slime-related mod I can quickly find on curse seems to implement merging, ghz|afk

L257[12:01:13] <KnightMiner> I recall SethBling made a Bukkit plugin that did that, never saw one as a Forge mod

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L266[13:33:30] <PaleoCrafter> welp, looks like I'll pass the first few weeks of my studies playing games, lol

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L280[15:01:18] <Twisted_Code> So I was playing around with NEI 1.8+'s potion editor. Apparently the duration on a potion can't be more than 15 bits, from what I can tell? Why is that? Does it really need to be a 16 bit signed integer? Because I imagine an unsigned int would do unless you're a time traveler...

L281[15:02:15] <MCPBot_Reborn> MCPBot_Reborn is now in read-only mode. Commands that change database data are currently disabled.

L282[15:02:19] <MCPBot_Reborn> === Mappings Commit ===

L283[15:02:22] <MCPBot_Reborn> Total: 0 method changes committed, 0 field changes committed, 95 method parameter changes committed

L284[15:02:26] <MCPBot_Reborn> [STABLE CSV] Pushing stable_32 mappings to Forge Maven.

L285[15:02:29] <MCPBot_Reborn> [STABLE CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_stable-32-1.11.zip (mappings = "stable_32" in build.gradle).

L286[15:02:40] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

L287[15:04:56] <Twisted_Code> Of course, I could be completely misreading the situation and the last bit could have a use besides integer sign, but I doubt it.

L288[15:07:20] <quadraxis> ooh mcpbot updated

L289[15:07:31] <quadraxis> 1.12 mappings coming soon?

L290[15:08:06] <ghz|afk> mcpbot going readonly USUALLY means mappings switch

L291[15:08:11] <tterrag> not this time

L292[15:08:16] <tterrag> there are some bugs with the j8 switch

L293[15:08:18] <tterrag> this is just for testing

L294[15:08:26] <tterrag> it'll happen soon

L295[15:08:34] <ghz|afk> ah

L296[15:08:38] <quadraxis> stable_32 got made

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L298[15:14:10] <tterrag> yes, it should be identical to 31

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L302[15:21:05] <killjoy> !version

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L310[15:50:47] <IoP> cpw: https://gist.github.com/jikuja/f44533a16ad04624c3eb8e99e7a3e494

L311[15:51:38] <IoP> too lazy to tweet and my client is mostly read-only. (read: I don't know how to tweet with it)

L312[15:57:24] <SatanicSanta> IoP: I made a curse modpack downloader too :P https://github.com/elifoster/mcfpm it mostly works

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L314[15:58:13] <SatanicSanta> IoP: you can actually download anything from minecraft curseforge with it straight from the command line but I made it so I could download/install packs

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L316[15:58:37] <TechnicianLP_> iirc there was a python script somewhre as well

L317[15:59:47] <IoP> portablejim's was python iirc

L318[16:01:18] <PaleoCrafter> I made one, too xD https://github.com/Paleocrafter/CurseSync

L319[16:01:24] <SatanicSanta> ah right, I set it up to download everything into a central place when doing installmod/pack. I think the way you'd use it before all that stuff is set up properly would be to download the zip and then `mcfpm manifest`

L320[16:01:34] <TechnicianLP_> that one works quite well (updating pacs with it is a bit broken though (it creates ./minecraft/minecraft/ and puts stuff there then)

L321[16:01:41] <IoP> PaleoCrafter: damn

L322[16:01:59] <IoP> updated gist, twice

L323[16:02:40] <SatanicSanta> technically I'm pretty sure all of these things are illegal

L324[16:03:03] <TechnicianLP_> why would they?

L325[16:03:14] <SatanicSanta> because by using these you are not using their product

L326[16:03:35] <IoP> illegal or agaist ToS?

L327[16:03:36] <SatanicSanta> they've got some stupid clause somewhere iirc that states to download stuff from the website you must use curse software

L328[16:03:38] <SatanicSanta> idk

L329[16:03:47] <Lord_Ralex> it'd be against tos at best

L330[16:03:49] <SatanicSanta> I was told this like a year and a half ago

L331[16:03:57] <IoP> Are you bound with ToS if you don't create account?

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L333[16:04:26] <Lord_Ralex> probably, cause you are using the site in the end.

L334[16:05:20] <SatanicSanta> I mean I'm sure if they made a cli everyone would use it so it's their fault

L335[16:05:58] <SatanicSanta> nobody wants to fucking upload a modpack locally to a server when they can just download it directly to the server

L336[16:06:29] <IoP> curse's ToS is god damn mess

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L339[16:06:50] <IoP> nobody really know which ToS is applied for Curse chat servers :/

L340[16:06:51] <raoulvdberge> I'm using ModelLoader.setCustomMeshDefinition, along with a blockstate with a custom block model. Is there a way to apply the "transform": "forge:default-block"?

L341[16:06:58] <TechnicianLP_> and most of us have curse premium either way ... so no ads + fast download anyways ...

L342[16:07:28] <TechnicianLP_> put that into the defaults section of the bs

L343[16:07:51] <TechnicianLP_> BlockStateJson*

L344[16:08:52] <TechnicianLP_> custom block-model as in custom IBakedModel impl.?

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L347[16:12:05] <kashike> <SatanicSanta> they've got some stupid clause somewhere iirc that states to download stuff from the website you must use curse software

L348[16:12:07] <kashike> then perhaps they should make a curse client for linux

L349[16:12:21] <kashike> or, rather, twitch app launcher

L350[16:12:43] <SatanicSanta> kashike: they need something you can use without gui

L351[16:13:09] <SatanicSanta> a client for linux would be good too though, not disagreeing there

L352[16:13:18] <IoP> "access any website, server, software application, or other computer resource owned, used and/or licensed by Twitch, including but not limited to the Twitch Services, by means of any robot, spider, scraper, crawler or other automated means for any purpose, or bypass any measures Twitch may use to prevent or restrict access to any website, server, software application, or other computer resource owned,

L353[16:13:25] <IoP> used and/or licensed Twitch, including but not limited to the Twitch Services;"

L354[16:13:55] <IoP> previous ToS was better imo

L355[16:14:01] <SatanicSanta> that is very confusingly worded

L356[16:14:12] <Lord_Ralex> welcome to amazon to twitch to curse lol

L357[16:15:25] <TechnicianLP_> but the curseclient downloads the mods in an automated way ... so wouldnt that violate the tos as well?

L358[16:15:48] <SatanicSanta> lmao

L359[16:16:37] <IoP> :P

L360[16:16:50] <SatanicSanta> "Error:(20, 0) Cause: net/minecraftforge/gradle/user/patcherUser/forge/ForgePlugin : Unsupported major.minor version 52.0" what.

L361[16:16:58] <IoP> missing that important "thirdparty" :P

L362[16:17:04] <diesieben07> use java 8

L363[16:17:11] <diesieben07> 52.0 is java 9

L364[16:17:12] <diesieben07> *8

L365[16:17:21] <SatanicSanta> ah, is java 8 required in 1.12?

L366[16:17:26] <diesieben07> yes

L367[16:17:29] <SatanicSanta> that pleases me

L368[16:17:34] <diesieben07> why in all hell are you using java 7?!

L369[16:17:58] <SatanicSanta> the mod isn't that large, haven't really *needed* anything j8 provides

L370[16:18:07] <diesieben07> no, you have java 7 installed.

L371[16:18:08] <diesieben07> why?

L372[16:18:18] <PaleoCrafter> how do you know it's 7? Oo

L373[16:18:21] <SatanicSanta> because i develop mods that use java 7 :P

L374[16:18:25] <diesieben07> and?

L375[16:18:32] <diesieben07> java 8 can compile for java 7

L376[16:18:39] <SatanicSanta> actually i dont think i hava j7 installed

L377[16:18:50] <kashike> 6?!?

L378[16:18:53] <SatanicSanta> no

L379[16:18:54] <diesieben07> well, you have some java installed that is not 8

L380[16:18:58] <kashike> ^

L381[16:19:10] * SatanicSanta checks what is installed

L382[16:19:17] <SatanicSanta> nope

L383[16:19:18] <SatanicSanta> just 8

L384[16:19:23] <SatanicSanta> build 131

L385[16:19:27] <kashike> you're broken then

L386[16:19:32] <diesieben07> that error above is NOT thrown by that java 8.

L387[16:19:38] <diesieben07> or your java 8 is fucked up

L388[16:19:41] <SatanicSanta> blame intellij?

L389[16:19:49] <diesieben07> intellij has nothing to do with that.

L390[16:20:01] <illy> beep o7

L391[16:20:09] <PaleoCrafter> boop

L392[16:20:22] <diesieben07> bloopety blaab

L393[16:21:02] <illy> My god how far can this go

L394[16:21:04] <SatanicSanta> yeah using java 8 did not do anything. what's strange is it works fine for other 1.12 projects I have that use j8

L395[16:21:10] <PaleoCrafter> boo boo doo de doo

L396[16:21:17] <PaleoCrafter> dun dun boop boop

L397[16:21:22] <diesieben07> BWAAAAAP

L398[16:21:32] <PaleoCrafter> zwee-ah wheee doo woo

L399[16:22:09] <PaleoCrafter> not coming up with these myself, btw :P

L400[16:22:20] <diesieben07> laaame

L401[16:22:46] <PaleoCrafter> eh, you just don't know where they come from

L402[16:22:53] <raoulvdberge> Anyone know how I can add a transform (forge:default-block in this case) to an existing model without using the "inventory" variant?

L403[16:25:04] <PaleoCrafter> wrap it in IPerspectiveAwareModel or something?

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L405[16:28:34] <LexMobile> !readonly false

L406[16:28:37] <MCPBot_Reborn> MCPBot_Reborn is no longer in read-only mode. All commands are now available again.

L407[16:28:49] <IoP> cpw: did you report FTB Launcher problem directly to prog or?

L408[16:29:12] <PaleoCrafter> !!versions

L409[16:29:12] <MCPBot_Reborn> === Available Versions ===

L410[16:29:13] <MCPBot_Reborn> MCP Version MC Version Release Type

L411[16:29:13] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.40 1.12 RELEASE

L412[16:29:14] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.35 1.11 RELEASE

L413[16:29:15] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.33 1.10.2 RELEASE

L414[16:29:15] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.28 1.9.4 RELEASE

L415[16:29:16] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.24 1.9 RELEASE

L416[16:29:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.19 1.8.9 RELEASE

L417[16:29:18] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.18 1.8.8 RELEASE

L418[16:29:18] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.10 1.8 RELEASE

L419[16:29:19] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.04 1.7.10 RELEASE

L420[16:29:20] <MCPBot_Reborn> 9.01 1.7.2 RELEASE

L421[16:29:20] <MCPBot_Reborn> + 3 more. Please use !more to see 3 queued entries.

L422[16:29:23] <PaleoCrafter> sorry for the spam, but wanted that to be known :P

L423[16:30:24] <SatanicSanta> \o/

L424[16:30:45] <SatanicSanta> are the nightly snapshots 1.12 now then?

L425[16:31:15] <diesieben07> wheeeee

L426[16:31:58] <ghz|afk> that's just the major mcp versions no?

L427[16:32:12] <ScottehBoeh> I'm posting a horse armor hook req

L428[16:32:13] <PaleoCrafter> I just mapped 1.12 stuff, so...

L429[16:32:18] <ghz|afk> AH

L430[16:32:19] <ghz|afk> nice

L431[16:32:20] <ghz|afk> awesome

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L434[16:33:22] <PaleoCrafter> hm... func_194125_a is the "is this the right creative tab" method, suggestions?

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L436[16:34:01] <SatanicSanta> on what obj

L437[16:34:14] <PaleoCrafter> Item

L438[16:34:43] <ghz|afk> PaleoCrafter: shouldDisplayInTab ?

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L440[16:35:22] <PaleoCrafter> meh, if anything, shouldDisplay, I find that "InTab" or "At" stuff redundant

L441[16:35:28] <ghz|afk> sure

L442[16:35:30] <tterrag> !latest

L443[16:35:46] <LexMobile> validTab*

L444[16:35:50] <ghz|afk> but shouldDisplay could be confusing at first sight

L445[16:36:14] <diesieben07> nothing to do with validity, has it...

L446[16:36:33] <ghz|afk> it just asks "is this a tab I want to show up in?"

L447[16:36:41] <ghz|afk> so yeah I don't really like "valid" in there

L448[16:37:28] <LexMobile> allowedIn

L449[16:37:37] <diesieben07> shownOn? :D

L450[16:37:52] <tterrag> lex, could you make a manual mappings snapshot?

L451[16:37:57] <diesieben07> *insert joke about naming things being hard*

L452[16:38:03] <tterrag> so we don't have to wait 12 hrs to use 1.12 mappings :P

L453[16:38:17] <LexMobile> no

L454[16:38:17] <ghz|afk> tterrag: better do that in an hour or so, no?

L455[16:38:22] <ghz|afk> after the initial mappings additions

L456[16:38:24] <LexMobile> and you can use the 1.11 mappings

L457[16:38:27] <LexMobile> it really doesnt matter

L458[16:38:43] <tterrag> the 1.12 release has some officially-done mappings though, no?

L459[16:38:54] <PaleoCrafter> field_193627_d -> CATEGORY_ORDER? (for key bindings)

L460[16:39:01] <ghz|afk> checking

L461[16:39:13] <tterrag> !gf 193627

L462[16:39:15] <ghz|afk> the int is a weight value?

L463[16:39:23] <LexMobile> no i dont do any bot mappings int he update..

L464[16:39:30] <LexMobile> if i want to force a name i just force it in the srg

L465[16:39:35] <ghz|afk> seems like it

L466[16:39:51] <PaleoCrafter> I know what it does, it's more about the name .P

L467[16:39:58] <ghz|afk> yes but I do not know

L468[16:40:01] <ghz|afk> so I can't suggest names

L469[16:40:13] <tterrag> maybe plural?

L470[16:40:14] <SatanicSanta> !gf Item.getSubItems

L471[16:40:18] <tterrag> CATEGORY_ORDERS ?

L472[16:40:19] <SatanicSanta> !gm Item.getSubItems

L473[16:40:19] <tterrag> idk

L474[16:40:22] <tterrag> either seems fine

L475[16:40:29] <ghz|afk> no, that'd sound like ordering food or something ;P

L476[16:40:34] <SatanicSanta> params are fucked up in that method

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L478[16:40:54] <ghz|afk> CATEGORY_INDICES or CATEGORY_WEIGHTS

L479[16:40:55] <tterrag> !gm addInformation

L480[16:40:57] <ghz|afk> sounds better to me

L481[16:41:10] <ghz|afk> depending on if the numbers can repeat or not

L482[16:41:12] <tterrag> !sp p_77624_2_ worldIn

L483[16:41:17] <tterrag> !fsp p_77624_2_ worldIn

L484[16:41:25] <PaleoCrafter> it probably can repeat, obviously doesn't happen in Vanilla

L485[16:41:33] <ghz|afk> then I'd go with weights

L486[16:41:41] <SatanicSanta> for getSubItems, what should I pass instead of null (like I did in 1.11 and earlier) for the tab?

L487[16:41:41] <tterrag> !fsp p_77624_4_ flag

L488[16:41:43] <tterrag> whoops I'll move channels

L489[16:41:48] <PaleoCrafter> func_193626_b -> getDisplayNameSupplier? (also key bindings, to save you the search: it's used in the TextComponentKeyBinding stuff)

L490[16:41:54] <ghz|afk> SatanicSanta: SEARCH, probably

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L492[16:42:22] <SatanicSanta> ight

L493[16:42:28] <PaleoCrafter> can you force, tterrag?

L494[16:42:30] <ghz|afk> hmmm yep, that name sounds about right

L495[16:42:36] <tterrag> I can, yes

L496[16:43:14] <ghz|afk> could also be getDisplayNameDelegate but Supplier works too ;P

L497[16:43:19] <PaleoCrafter> mind changing p_194125_1_ to displayTab? otherwise Forge patches would need to be changed with the next mappings update

L498[16:43:25] <tterrag> !gp p_194125_1_

L499[16:43:35] <tterrag> !gm func_194125_a

L500[16:43:48] <PaleoCrafter> it's the "should display in tab" thing

L501[16:43:50] <tterrag> PaleoCrafter: it's already 'tab'

L502[16:43:54] <tterrag> why 'displayTab' ?

L503[16:44:04] <SatanicSanta> !gm func_194125_a

L504[16:44:26] <ghz|afk> tterrag: presumably forge uses "tab" as its own thing

L505[16:44:33] <PaleoCrafter> because the current Forge patch uses 'tab' in a loop and depending on the name we choose for the method, the param name could give some more information

L506[16:44:35] <PaleoCrafter> yeah

L507[16:44:40] <tterrag> ohhh I see

L508[16:44:48] <tterrag> maybe tabIn ?

L509[16:44:50] <tterrag> to follow standards?

L510[16:44:56] <PaleoCrafter> eh... I'd rather not :P

L511[16:45:05] <tterrag> I don't like it either, but standards are standards

L512[16:45:15] <ghz|afk> that's one standard I wouldn't mind losing ;P

L513[16:45:20] <tterrag> what would you prefer

L514[16:45:23] <ghz|afk> targetTab maybe

L515[16:45:27] <PaleoCrafter> it's only a "standard" because normal people can't pass in class names

L516[16:45:28] <tterrag> no, as a standard

L517[16:45:33] <ghz|afk> nothing

L518[16:45:36] <tterrag> it's not normal people, it's anyone

L519[16:45:37] <ghz|afk> case-by-case basis

L520[16:45:40] <tterrag> even force does not allow class names

L521[16:45:45] <ghz|afk> based on usage/context

L522[16:45:57] <quadraxis> tab isnt the class name tho?

L523[16:46:07] <tterrag> !fsp p_194125_1_ targetTab

L524[16:46:11] <tterrag> whatever

L525[16:46:18] <raoulvdberge> Why isn't forge respecting my "transform": "forge:default-block" on a custom block model (I declared the transform in the "defaults" section)?

L526[16:46:19] <tterrag> someone else can force it again if they don't like the name :P

L527[16:46:20] <tterrag> it's just a param

L528[16:46:39] <ghz|afk> raoulvdberge: pastebin

L529[16:47:26] <PaleoCrafter> ah, interesting: SRG names for lambda params are generated, but the bot doesn't recognise them

L530[16:47:42] <raoulvdberge> ghz|afk: https://pastebin.com/hDMFW5E9

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L532[16:48:07] <LexMobile> yes the script bspkrs uses for the bot update doesnt like lambdas it'll deal with it later

L533[16:48:23] <raoulvdberge> ghz|afk: I'm manually passing the blockstate variant params in a ItemMeshDefinition, which works, but doesn't actually apply the transform..

L534[16:48:29] <PaleoCrafter> okay, good to know that they're supported at all

L535[16:48:41] <PaleoCrafter> oh... crap, field_193637_b shouldn't be displayNameSupplier... it's more like displayNameSupplierProvider xD

L536[16:48:49] <tterrag> !gf field_193637_b

L537[16:49:18] <tterrag> why not just displayNameProvider ?

L538[16:49:22] <tterrag> or just displayNameFunc idk

L539[16:49:28] <ghz|afk> PaleoCrafter: I thought that was the "get" part ?

L540[16:49:35] <ghz|afk> "get(DisplayNameSupplier)"

L541[16:49:41] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, but I don't like it for a field name, ghz|afk

L542[16:49:47] <ghz|afk> AH

L543[16:49:57] <ghz|afk> wait

L544[16:50:18] <ghz|afk> oh it creates a closure that returns the supplier

L545[16:50:19] <PaleoCrafter> tterrag, problem is, since it's a Function<String, Supplier<String>> that doesn't quite describe it, field_193639_d is the actual provider/supplier

L546[16:50:21] <ghz|afk> wtf

L547[16:50:22] <ghz|afk> XD

L548[16:50:34] <ghz|afk> displayNameSupplierDelegate

L549[16:50:45] <ghz|afk> maybe XD

L550[16:50:52] <ghz|afk> WTF is the purpose of that field?!

L551[16:51:04] <tterrag> functionWhichReturnsASupplierForTheDisplayName

L552[16:51:11] <PaleoCrafter> having a default implementation for servers, ghz|afk

L553[16:51:23] <raoulvdberge> This might be a bug?

L554[16:51:29] <ghz|afk> why's it not an actual function?

L555[16:51:36] <PaleoCrafter> it is in KeyBinding

L556[16:51:41] <ghz|afk> it has ONE use

L557[16:51:46] <ghz|afk> inside getUnformattedComponentText

L558[16:51:47] <PaleoCrafter> the client overrides the field

L559[16:51:58] <ghz|afk> wat

L560[16:52:11] <PaleoCrafter> the server doesn't have localisations, right?

L561[16:52:14] <ghz|afk> OH

L562[16:52:16] <PaleoCrafter> it also doesn't have the KeyBinding class

L563[16:52:20] <ghz|afk> in the Minecraft constructor

L564[16:52:21] <ghz|afk> WTF

L565[16:52:22] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, this is for localisation support only :P

L566[16:52:30] <PaleoCrafter> it's actually rather clever, imo :P

L567[16:52:49] <diesieben07> hm. the getter for a boolean field "showToast", should i call it "getShowToast"? That follow conventions but sounds stupid.,

L568[16:52:53] <ScottehBoeh> LMAO this is going to sound really stupid

L569[16:52:56] <ghz|afk> yeah I'd still go with displayNameSupplierDelegate

L570[16:52:59] <PaleoCrafter> shouldShowToast, diesieben07?

L571[16:53:06] <ghz|afk> hmm or rather

L572[16:53:09] <diesieben07> yes thats what i am thinking

L573[16:53:11] <ScottehBoeh> is there any known reason (that I dont' know about) that my custom mob disappears after like 2 seconds?

L574[16:53:11] <ghz|afk> displayNameSupplierBuilder

L575[16:53:14] <diesieben07> but that does not follow conventions

L576[16:53:15] <ghz|afk> no wait

L577[16:53:25] <ghz|afk> displayNameSupplierDelegateBuilder

L578[16:53:25] <PaleoCrafter> I mean, they could have gone with a Function<String, String>, but that would mean a *slight* overhead xD

L579[16:53:56] <ghz|afk> nevermind that last one, I misread

L580[16:53:56] <diesieben07> should it is.

L581[16:54:19] <ghz|afk> okay my suggestion is back to displayNameSupplierDelegate

L582[16:55:10] <PaleoCrafter> is that function itself a delegate though? xD

L583[16:55:19] <PaleoCrafter> displayNameSupplierProvider makes sense in a Java context

L584[16:55:36] <LexMobile> why so verbose?

L585[16:55:43] <LexMobile> why not nameProvider?

L586[16:55:52] <PaleoCrafter> because it doesn't actually do that xD

L587[16:56:04] <PaleoCrafter> it just *gives* you the nameProvider for a given ID

L588[16:56:13] <LexMobile> yes...

L589[16:56:19] <LexMobile> so thats exactly what it does

L590[16:56:27] <ghz|afk> it allows the client to replace the implementation of the supplier getter

L591[16:56:37] <ghz|afk> so it's a proxy/delegate pattern

L592[16:56:43] <ghz|afk> hence why I suggested that

L593[16:57:01] <LexMobile> yes but its still functionally just a provider

L594[16:57:04] <LexMobile> dont care about internal shit

L595[16:57:11] <PaleoCrafter> yes, but it doesn't provide a name

L596[16:57:16] <ghz|afk> but it returns a supplier... so it's a supplierProvider

L597[16:57:20] <ghz|afk> not a nameProvider

L598[16:57:25] <PaleoCrafter> hence my suggestion of (display)NameSupplierProvider xD

L599[16:57:25] <LexMobile> also are you guys the ones who are makign the thisIsASuperLongNamewBecauseItDoesALotOfShit names?

L600[16:57:27] <LexMobile> cuz thats annoying

L601[16:57:29] <ScottehBoeh> Bahahaha http://i.imgur.com/t6iMyI9.png

L602[16:57:31] <ScottehBoeh> Woops, wrong model

L603[16:57:42] <PaleoCrafter> nah, I try to find as concise names as possible

L604[16:57:48] <PaleoCrafter> but it's somewhat hard to do with higher order functions

L605[16:58:08] <LexMobile> not really this one would be fine as nameProvider or getNameProvider

L606[16:58:55] <PaleoCrafter> I do use getDisplayNameSupplier (using Java 8 terminology) for the method, if you're fine with naming the field the same, I'll do so

L607[17:00:05] <PaleoCrafter> I'd like to keep the "display" part to keep it consistent with KeyBinding#getDisplayName

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L609[17:00:08] <LexMobile> nothing wrong with field a, getA() ptterns

L610[17:00:33] <SatanicSanta> oh, i see the osx issue was fixed. How should I go about actually obtaining that fix?

L611[17:00:38] <ghz|afk> the problem is that in this case "a" does not contain the result of getA()

L612[17:00:40] <PaleoCrafter> ^

L613[17:00:52] <ghz|afk> it contains a Function that calls getA()

L614[17:01:05] <PaleoCrafter> a is getB xD

L615[17:01:38] <LexMobile> then aGetter

L616[17:01:45] <ghz|afk> I'm thinkin ... the method could be nameProxy(String) and the field nameProxyProvider

L617[17:02:22] <ghz|afk> (or Getter)

L618[17:02:35] <SatanicSanta> actually a better question would be how do i go about updating forgegradle?

L619[17:03:07] <tterrag> if you use -SNAPSHOT it will always update

L620[17:03:08] <ghz|afk> SatanicSanta: assuming you have ForgeGradle:2.3-SNAPSHOT in your build.gradle

L621[17:03:15] <ghz|afk> the next time you use gradle it will DL the new snapshot

L622[17:03:21] <PaleoCrafter> somebody with force permissions has to rename field_193637_b anyways, I dun goofd the first time round

L623[17:03:39] <SatanicSanta> well in that case

L624[17:03:44] <tterrag> I was waiting for you guys to reach a decision

L625[17:03:46] <SatanicSanta> Lex the osx stuff is still broken :P

L626[17:04:10] <ghz|afk> I gave my opinion, this is something that we won't see often

L627[17:04:13] <ghz|afk> in practice during modding

L628[17:04:21] <ghz|afk> so I don't REALLY care what it ends up being called

L629[17:05:08] <PaleoCrafter> hm... I've named field_193638_c "id" (of the key binding) for now, but it looks like Vanilla itself probably calls its "keybind", since they use that in ITextComponent.serialize ._.

L630[17:05:26] <PaleoCrafter> I don't really care either, but it should have at least a reasonable name

L631[17:05:32] <PaleoCrafter> then again, all suggestions so far were reasonable imo

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L634[17:06:04] <ghz|afk> hmm the Ingredient method builders, func_193367_a, func_193368_a, func_193369_a - can we name them "of"?

L635[17:07:20] <PaleoCrafter> I'd call them that

L636[17:07:47] <ghz|afk> I mean there's no issue calling all 3 the same right?

L637[17:07:48] <tterrag> anyone know what func_192399_d is for?

L638[17:07:51] <ghz|afk> I'm new to setting things

L639[17:07:55] <tterrag> seems to maybe be some kind of "isHidden" function?

L640[17:08:12] <PaleoCrafter> there shouldn't be, all have the different signature

L641[17:08:28] <ghz|afk> if true, it's unsupported

L642[17:08:34] <ghz|afk> based on the use in RecipeCommand

L643[17:08:48] <ghz|afk> commands.recipe.unsupported=%s is an unsupported recipe

L644[17:08:57] <ghz|afk> isRecipeUnsupported()

L645[17:09:05] <tterrag> "unsupported' what the hell does that mean

L646[17:09:11] <tterrag> is it ever true in vanilla?

L647[17:09:26] <ghz|afk> yes

L648[17:09:29] <ghz|afk> for the special recipes

L649[17:09:33] <ghz|afk> that should never be in the book

L650[17:09:35] <tterrag> aha, RecipeRepairItem etc

L651[17:09:44] <tterrag> unsupported seems like a weird term

L652[17:09:46] <ghz|afk> so not "unsupported" but rather

L653[17:09:46] <tterrag> I like "hidden"

L654[17:09:54] <ghz|afk> "unsupported by the book"

L655[17:10:06] <tterrag> aka 'hidden' >.>

L656[17:10:14] <ghz|afk> no not hidden

L657[17:10:22] <ghz|afk> it means the book system would be unable to display the recipe for it

L658[17:10:30] <ghz|afk> for preview

L659[17:10:34] <ghz|afk> and place the items automatically

L660[17:10:35] <PaleoCrafter> do we want the names to be so tightly linked to the existence of the book, though?

L661[17:10:36] <tterrag> right

L662[17:10:43] <tterrag> but it's not unsupported, because you can still *use* the recipe

L663[17:10:52] <ghz|afk> yes

L664[17:11:21] <ghz|afk> so isInvalidForBook or whatever

L665[17:11:54] <PaleoCrafter> func_192389_a (another usecase of func_192399_d) appears to be updateCraftingResult?

L666[17:12:28] <ghz|afk> hmm I guess

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L668[17:12:56] <Raycoms> Hey there

L669[17:13:25] <Raycoms> Is there a good way to detect if a mod is installed without having to add that mod as a dependency in gradle?

L670[17:13:55] <Raycoms> Like checking if there is a block with that mods modId or similar?

L671[17:14:12] <ghz|afk> Loader.isModLoaded

L672[17:14:13] <Necro> Loader.isModLoaded(String id)

L673[17:17:32] <PaleoCrafter> hm... I feel like func_192413_b should be findMatchingRecipe while the current findMatchingRecipe (func_82787_a) should be find(Matching)Result or something

L674[17:17:36] <Raycoms> Thanks

L675[17:17:52] <diesieben07> tterrag, ResourceLocations are not names :(

L676[17:17:58] <tterrag> diesieben07: hrm?

L677[17:18:13] <diesieben07> field_192079_d

L678[17:18:16] <diesieben07> you named it "name"

L679[17:18:18] <diesieben07> but it's an ID

L680[17:18:25] <tterrag> !gf field_192079_d

L681[17:18:37] <tterrag> hm yeah, I wasn't 100% on that

L682[17:18:40] <tterrag> id also doesn't seem quite right

L683[17:18:44] <PaleoCrafter> how dare you! xD

L684[17:18:44] <diesieben07> why not?

L685[17:18:58] <tterrag> well because it's never really used as an id

L686[17:19:10] <diesieben07> of course. it identifies the advancement.

L687[17:19:29] <tterrag> then why do we call it "registryName" ?

L688[17:19:33] <tterrag> for items/blocks/etc

L689[17:19:40] <diesieben07> i did not call it that :P

L690[17:20:03] <diesieben07> i would prefer "ID" and "numerical ID"

L691[17:20:14] <diesieben07> but people associate "block ID" with a number, unfortunately

L692[17:20:29] <PaleoCrafter> func_194073_a -> unlock or unlockRecipe (from RecipeBook)?

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L694[17:21:16] <tterrag> Recipe seems redundant in that name

L695[17:21:32] <tterrag> think of how it's called unlock(recipe) or unlockRecipe(recipe)

L696[17:21:36] <PaleoCrafter> imo, too, hence me asking ^^

L697[17:21:45] <PaleoCrafter> unlock it is

L698[17:22:55] <PaleoCrafter> but II'm somewhat confused... there are two bitsets in RecipeBook which both seem to contain unlocks

L699[17:22:55] <tterrag> I love unnammed methods that are just random boolean returns

L700[17:23:21] <tterrag> PaleoCrafter: yeah...that's nothing. look at PlayerAdvancements. three identical Set<Advancement> fields

L701[17:23:26] <PaleoCrafter> lol

L702[17:23:31] <tterrag> not even sure where to start with that

L703[17:23:55] <diesieben07> i also love how the getter for "name" is now called "getId"

L704[17:23:56] <diesieben07> -_-

L705[17:24:03] <PaleoCrafter> I'm not too familiar with the the recipe book stuff, so I can't even guess the difference between the two

L706[17:24:05] <tterrag> !gm Advancement.getId

L707[17:24:08] <PaleoCrafter> one only appears to be used on the client, though

L708[17:24:17] <tterrag> diesieben07: I didn't name it :P

L709[17:24:20] <diesieben07> yes i know

L710[17:24:25] <diesieben07> that would be even worse lol

L711[17:24:29] <diesieben07> gm func_193124_g

L712[17:24:32] <tterrag> but fine, I'm outnumbered

L713[17:24:32] <diesieben07> fudge

L714[17:24:42] <tterrag> !fsf Advancement.name id

L715[17:24:47] <diesieben07> <3

L716[17:24:52] <tterrag> k that doesn't work like that

L717[17:24:55] <tterrag> !gf Advancement.name

L718[17:25:01] <tterrag> !fsg field_192079_d id

L719[17:25:04] <tterrag> !fsf field_192079_d id

L720[17:25:09] <tterrag> asldkfjaslkdf done

L721[17:25:19] <diesieben07> spam ALLL the force commands

L722[17:25:46] <tterrag> bspkrs: I request that (f)s(m/f/p) allows mapped names as the target :P

L723[17:29:23] <quadraxis> missing out on the really important thing here

L724[17:29:27] <quadraxis> mapping the parrot

L725[17:30:09] <TechnicianLP2> no cookies for the parrot!

L726[17:33:39] <diesieben07> AdvancementRewards.reward(player) or AdvancementRewards.giveTo(player)?

L727[17:34:39] <PaleoCrafter> take a look at old achievements mappings?

L728[17:34:53] <diesieben07> there are rewards for achievements?

L729[17:34:55] <PaleoCrafter> I prefer reward, though

L730[17:35:11] <PaleoCrafter> oh... no, sorry xD

L731[17:35:19] <diesieben07> :D i prefer reward, too

L732[17:35:32] <PaleoCrafter> although...

L733[17:35:33] <PaleoCrafter> maybe grant?

L734[17:35:51] <PaleoCrafter> makes reading it less redundant: advancementRewards.grant(player)

L735[17:35:58] <diesieben07> hm yeah ok. makes sense

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L737[17:42:40] <PaleoCrafter> gah, I don't want to figure out those RecipeBook names right now, too much else unnamed xD

L738[17:45:18] <tterrag> PaleoCrafter: exactly why I quit on PlayerAdvancements :P

L739[17:45:57] <PaleoCrafter> hehe

L740[17:46:12] <PaleoCrafter> I probably should go from the GUI and just inspect stuff via breakpoints

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L742[17:48:54] <diesieben07> gah, stupid bot rules...

L743[17:50:19] <kashike> diesieben07: hm?

L744[17:50:42] <diesieben07> not every static final field should be all uppercase...

L745[17:50:57] <tterrag> which one

L746[17:51:12] <diesieben07> anything that's not an actual constant

L747[17:51:15] <diesieben07> e.g. a logger.

L748[17:51:21] <tterrag> just call it LOGGER

L749[17:51:27] <tterrag> if for nothing else, consistency

L750[17:51:27] <diesieben07> its already named

L751[17:51:33] <kashike> what field?

L752[17:51:42] <tterrag> you've argued this before, it was settled to use constant case for all publicf

L753[17:51:47] <diesieben07> yes i know

L754[17:51:57] <diesieben07> that's why i just complained, but did not say to change anything.

L755[17:52:01] <diesieben07> i disagree, but whatever.

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L757[17:52:36] <PaleoCrafter> kashike, go come up with a name for field_193637_b :P

L758[17:52:44] <tterrag> disagreement is fine, but standards make things cleaner

L759[17:52:51] <tterrag> !gf field_193637_b

L760[17:52:57] <tterrag> oh that

L761[17:53:02] <kashike> PaleoCrafter: already named :P

L762[17:53:20] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, but it's not appropriate

L763[17:53:24] <PaleoCrafter> look at who named it

L764[17:53:37] <kashike> you

L765[17:53:44] <PaleoCrafter> need to find a DW episode that fits it

L766[17:53:50] <kashike> xD

L767[17:57:45] <PaleoCrafter> http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/06/technology/culture/syrian-minecraft-woebot/index.html should I feel bad for reading "helpful" first >.>

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L769[18:04:52] <diesieben07> when mapping, can you specify @return for javadocs?

L770[18:05:46] <kashike> yes

L771[18:05:50] <kashike> but in a weird way

L772[18:06:04] <kashike> sm func_thing name docsdocsodocsodofsfs\n \n@return balh

L773[18:06:21] <kashike> space between \n's is required

L774[18:06:33] <diesieben07> And you need two \ns?

L775[18:06:44] <kashike> to make it look nicer, yeah

L776[18:06:54] <diesieben07> ah ok, makes sense. thx

L777[18:07:11] <PaleoCrafter> we really need a nice web interface for this shit

L778[18:07:16] <kashike> heh

L779[18:07:20] <PaleoCrafter> preferably with a list of all unnamed things

L780[18:07:28] <kashike> IRC can do things quite good

L781[18:07:38] <PaleoCrafter> get Curse to do it and give points out for it xD

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L783[18:08:17] <diesieben07> no please god no

L784[18:08:27] <kashike> ^

L785[18:08:30] <diesieben07> the mappings will become absolutely terrible

L786[18:08:30] <kashike> please please please no

L787[18:08:34] <PaleoCrafter> of course not xD

L788[18:08:41] <PaleoCrafter> although you could make it vote-based or something

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L790[18:28:51] <PaleoCrafter> could even make it really fancy and have like an actual code view of everything

L791[18:29:02] <quadraxis> any ideas for the new map colours?

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L793[18:29:25] <kashike> I'd hold off on naming anything more right now, by the way

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L796[18:30:45] <kashike> quadraxis: they're used for the coloured hardened clay block

L797[18:30:53] <quadraxis> yeah I know

L798[18:31:22] <kashike> HARDENED_CLAY_{COLOR}

L799[18:32:40] <PaleoCrafter> I thoguht that was terracotta now? :P

L800[18:32:55] <kashike> only the display name changed

L801[18:32:56] <kashike> /shrug

L802[18:37:28] <PaleoCrafter> I mean, I don't play Vanilla, hardly play modded these days and don't really actively work on any mod, so I couldn't care less about that darn name xD

L803[18:38:53] <PaleoCrafter> ffs, Blizzard, you've given me like 5 "normal" legendary/epic items this event already, but only 1 or 2 actual event things ._.

L804[18:53:22] <Raycoms> I want to configure our project to use minecraft_version=1.12 forge_version=14.21.0.2322 and mappings snapshot_20161220

L805[18:53:36] <Raycoms> but for some reason gradle is unable to download the forge dependencies for that

L806[18:53:48] <kashike> are you using ForgeGradle 2.3?

L807[18:53:50] <kashike> any errors?

L808[18:54:21] <Raycoms> classpath 'net.minecraftforge.gradle:ForgeGradle:2.2-SNAPSHOT'

L809[18:54:28] <Raycoms> 2.2 won't work, I have to use 2.3?

L810[18:54:33] <kashike> 1.12 requires 2.3

L811[18:54:44] <Raycoms> okay, will be the same text just switch to 2.3?

L812[18:54:50] <kashike> yes

L813[18:54:56] <Raycoms> okay thanks, I'll tr

L814[18:54:57] <Raycoms> okay thanks, I'll try

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L817[18:58:06] <Raycoms> No, still not downloading

L818[18:58:10] <Raycoms> and no I'm not getting any errors

L819[18:58:17] <kashike> what do you get in your log?

L820[18:58:59] <PaleoCrafter> does anybody get why beds use a TESR now, btw?

L821[19:01:40] <williewillus> PaleoCrafter: not enough meta to store all the possible states? idk

L822[19:02:03] <PaleoCrafter> eh, that'd explain a *TE* not the renderer though

L823[19:02:12] <williewillus> no idea :P

L824[19:02:25] <williewillus> it clearly felt like a stopgap because the ID changes were delayed though

L825[19:02:55] <Raycoms> how do I run the refresh gradle task in console, I always only run it in intellij

L826[19:03:22] <williewillus> you mean the blue refresh button?

L827[19:03:25] <williewillus> that's an intellij concept

L828[19:03:55] <williewillus> it's saying (simplifying things) "re-read build.gradle and if things in the iml don't match fix it"

L829[19:04:01] <Raycoms> Ahk, anyway setupDecompWorkspace results in "3 Broken Access Transformer lines:"

L830[19:04:13] <Raycoms> Does that prevent the checkout of the right dependencies?

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L832[19:19:02] <quadraxis> williewillus: if you didn't see earlier, the bot's updated for 1.12 now

L833[19:19:41] <kashike> <kashike> I'd hold off on naming anything more right now, by the way

L834[19:20:12] <williewillus> why?

L835[19:20:22] <williewillus> (was gonna say yay)

L836[19:20:28] <kashike> some issues have popped up

L837[19:20:32] <williewillus> i have a whole list of shit that I made when I was bored yesterday

L838[19:20:38] <williewillus> hm?

L839[19:20:39] <kashike> 1.11 renames and javadocs changes didn't carry over

L840[19:20:43] <kashike> properly

L841[19:20:58] <williewillus> if i named 1.12 stuff would it get lost?

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L844[19:29:17] <williewillus> did the 1.12 part "branch off" at the wrong point in time? (i have no idea how the db works)

L845[19:29:41] <kashike> not sure, bsp has been pinged a few times, he'll see it eventually

L846[19:30:21] <williewillus> guess I'll keep working on this list in notepad lol

L847[19:30:48] <PaleoCrafter> u wot

L848[19:32:38] <williewillus> I starting thinking of names for all the advancement crap

L849[19:32:40] <williewillus> was bored last night

L850[19:32:50] <kashike> a lot was already named

L851[19:33:05] <PaleoCrafter> that's understandable, the notepad part is what's unnerving :P

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L857[20:08:28] <Raycoms> Achievements were changed to advancements right?

L858[20:09:44] <williewillus> yes

L859[20:10:25] <williewillus> also good that the naming that has already been was done by competent people :P

L860[20:11:01] <quadraxis> ?

L861[20:11:34] <williewillus> it was mentioned that a bunch of new 1.12 was already named and I said thankfully by people who know what they're doing

L862[20:11:42] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, we don't want sp64x messing up stuff, williewillus :P

L863[20:11:47] <williewillus> yes, exactly

L864[20:11:52] <williewillus> I didn't want to name naems but yes lol

L865[20:12:32] <quadraxis> well i was unsure how seriously you meant competent :p

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L867[20:13:38] <williewillus> as in "doesn't name an EntityLivingBase field 'bat'"

L868[20:13:46] <williewillus> *param

L869[20:13:51] <kashike> heh

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L871[20:19:46] <Raycoms> Can someone explain me what changed from achievements to advancements and what I have to take care about?

L872[20:20:20] <PaleoCrafter> waiting for Forge and mappings to stabilise a bit is properly the best advice right now :P

L873[20:20:35] <kashike> Raycoms: achievements are gone

L874[20:20:40] <kashike> advancements are a whole new system

L875[20:20:47] <PaleoCrafter> no non-hacky support for non-Vanilla advancements yet, iirc

L876[20:20:52] <williewillus> wait for names :P

L877[20:20:57] <williewillus> in the meantime read the vanilla wiki article

L878[20:21:01] <kashike> https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Advancements

L879[20:21:18] <Raycoms> no non-hacky support for non-Vanilla advancements yet -> k got it =D

L880[20:21:33] <PaleoCrafter> that's a lot of negatives in that statement xD

L881[20:24:19] <Raycoms> shorter would be "Only supports vanilla achievements right now"

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L883[20:24:32] <kashike> advancements*

L884[20:24:43] <Raycoms> exactly

L885[20:32:08] <LexMobile> Need comments on thoughts: https://gist.github.com/LexManos/2a11d4f7aa9d680d861dae4faf9dcfa6

L886[20:33:50] <PaleoCrafter> lol, Xycraft

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L890[20:54:02] <tterrag> lex: my first thought is "ingredient" -> "ingredients"

L891[20:54:03] <tterrag> :P

L892[20:54:06] <tterrag> but overall it seems good

L893[20:54:18] <tterrag> not sure factories need to be a JSON thing

L894[20:54:22] <tterrag> class names in JSON is a bit eh

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L896[20:54:40] <tterrag> could just be defined by like an annotation in code. @RecipeFactory("shapeless_ore")

L897[20:54:51] <tterrag> allows more flexibility and less reflection

L898[20:55:38] <tterrag> nvm on that ingredients thing... I was misreading

L899[20:56:29] <LexMobile> ya people bitched about annotations

L900[20:56:38] <LexMobile> so fuck it explictly defined metadata

L901[20:56:43] <tterrag> it doesn't need to be annotations...but I just don't think it needs to be json

L902[20:56:51] <tterrag> it seems extranneous as a resource

L903[20:56:53] <LexMobile> it needs to be something

L904[20:57:10] <LexMobile> and this is potentially needed super early

L905[20:57:10] <tterrag> what if I override it with an RP and just wipe all the factories?

L906[20:57:28] <LexMobile> Resource packs wont be taken into account with this system at all

L907[20:57:38] <tterrag> no?

L908[20:57:41] <LexMobile> nope

L909[20:57:49] <tterrag> so it's loaded hardcoded from jar resources?

L910[20:57:52] <tterrag> not through the resource manager?

L911[20:57:56] <LexMobile> yup

L912[20:57:58] <tterrag> I guess that makes sense

L913[20:58:08] <tterrag> maybe...just the option to define factories in code? idk

L914[20:58:16] <PaleoCrafter> it's how Vanilla already does it atm, fyi

L915[20:58:17] <tterrag> something about class names in json just doesn't sit well with me :P

L916[20:58:27] <LexMobile> maybe, but that would be an extension of this system

L917[20:58:48] <LexMobile> it WILL NOT error is any of the _ jsons are missing

L918[20:58:58] <LexMobile> so if we do do things in code then meh

L919[20:59:08] <LexMobile> the problem with doing it in code is order of operations tho.

L920[20:59:47] <LexMobile> if this is done in ServerInit we're fine but we were bouncing around the idea of doing this pre-preinit

L921[21:00:15] <tterrag> well, that's easy to document. like mod construction is already well documented to be a time where nothing should be loaded

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L924[21:05:12] <williewillus> so much duplicated structure in the advancement triggers .-.

L925[21:05:26] <kashike> yeah

L926[21:05:38] <kashike> meh, could be worse

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L934[21:19:38] <Phanta> how would I go about changing the blockstate json used for a particular block?

L935[21:20:01] <tterrag> use a statemapper

L936[21:20:13] <williewillus> what do you mean by "change"?

L937[21:20:21] <Phanta> I mean like

L938[21:20:39] <Phanta> if I have blocks called netherOre0, netherOre1, ...

L939[21:20:44] <Phanta> I want them all to use the model netherOre.json

L940[21:20:48] <Phanta> state*^

L941[21:21:01] <tterrag> that's not great for users

L942[21:21:15] <tterrag> different blockstates can point to the same model

L943[21:21:55] <Phanta> I'm using a state mapper that maps anything passed to it to new ModelResourceLocation(MOD_ID + ":netherOre");

L944[21:22:08] <williewillus> what happens if someone only wants to replace the model for ONE of those?

L945[21:22:15] <williewillus> now they have to replace the whole blockstate json

L946[21:22:23] <williewillus> which conflicts with any other rp that wants to replace *one* of them

L947[21:22:26] <tterrag> actually, it wouldn't even be possible

L948[21:22:35] <Phanta> well the thing is

L949[21:22:46] <Phanta> I'm using a single template texture for all of them

L950[21:22:59] <Phanta> and I'm using a color handler to modify their tints

L951[21:23:31] <tterrag> blockstate files are called that because they are for different blockstates. you can have them all still point to the same model+texture

L952[21:23:33] <williewillus> what if an rp maker *wants* to make them specialized?

L953[21:24:27] <williewillus> anyways, the whole BlockFaceShape thing is super weird, not sure what they were going for

L954[21:25:02] <tterrag> they were thinking "screw mods"

L955[21:25:09] <tterrag> time for more enum hacks...

L956[21:25:20] <tterrag> not even though, since it'll be impossible to reference added constants

L957[21:25:25] <KnightMiner> Funny how Mojang can add nothing without getting some part of the community upset

L958[21:25:52] <KnightMiner> Modders want bug fixes, resource pack and map makers want more JSON customization, and survival players want more features

L959[21:25:52] <williewillus> KnightMiner: that's a broad generalization

L960[21:25:59] <tterrag> KnightMiner: there are certain devs who actually don't care about mods and will in fact implement things in a way which is unhelpful intentionally

L961[21:26:09] <tterrag> in this case, it seems to be the latter

L962[21:26:10] <KnightMiner> Well, as a resource pack maker, I loved the blockstate system

L963[21:26:17] <KnightMiner> As a modder, I see the reason it was added

L964[21:26:20] <tterrag> yeah we aren't complaining about blockstates

L965[21:26:27] <williewillus> well specifically about the face shape thing

L966[21:26:31] <Phanta> I definitely am lol

L967[21:26:33] <KnightMiner> Face shape?

L968[21:26:35] <williewillus> the enum values don't even make sense

L969[21:26:36] <williewillus> in 1.12

L970[21:26:44] <Phanta> I haven't worked on post-1.7.10 forge until today

L971[21:26:48] <tterrag> Phanta: well quit it. they are much better than magic meta values

L972[21:26:50] <Phanta> and I'm extremely confused by everything

L973[21:26:55] <tterrag> new != bad

L974[21:27:03] <kashike> williewillus: what do you mean? they make perfect sense! /s

L975[21:27:23] <KnightMiner> I still see the occasional mod with a 16 integer blockstate property. because who needs understandible code>

L976[21:27:28] <tterrag> williewillus: they kind of make sense...but the fact that it's a hardcoded enum makes them useless

L977[21:27:32] <williewillus> Phanta: ywia http://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blockstates/states/

L978[21:27:39] <williewillus> KnightMiner: *facepalm*

L979[21:27:43] <Phanta> I've already read the whole article

L980[21:27:49] <Phanta> I'm referencing it as I code

L981[21:27:54] <Phanta> but I'm still confused /shrug

L982[21:28:01] <tterrag> confused by what exactly

L983[21:28:17] <williewillus> ^

L984[21:28:27] <tterrag> KnightMiner: I'm sort of part of the problem there :P https://github.com/Chisel-Team/Chisel/blob/1.10/dev/src/main/java/team/chisel/common/util/PropertyAnyInteger.java

L985[21:28:35] <tterrag> I've been meaning to refactor that to be a bit more meaningful

L986[21:28:38] <tterrag> but busy with other stuff

L987[21:28:48] <tterrag> it's code from 1.8

L988[21:29:14] <KnightMiner> Is that used for all blocks in chisel?

L989[21:29:36] <KnightMiner> I feel like just having an enum interface would be a cleaner approach, Tinkers does most of its blocks using that

L990[21:29:37] <tterrag> yes

L991[21:29:41] <Phanta> for one thing, my game crashes on startup with an NPE in getMetaFromState

L992[21:29:41] <tterrag> a what

L993[21:29:50] <Phanta> all my code does is read an integer from block meta and return it

L994[21:29:54] <tterrag> Phanta: post it

L995[21:30:02] <Phanta> lemme paste it quick

L996[21:30:10] <KnightMiner> https://github.com/SlimeKnights/TinkersConstruct/blob/1.11.2/src/main/java/slimeknights/tconstruct/smeltery/block/BlockSeared.java

L997[21:30:10] <tterrag> KnightMiner: I think you understimate the number of variants we have

L998[21:30:29] <tterrag> there would be like 50 enums

L999[21:30:31] <tterrag> that's dumb

L1000[21:30:33] <KnightMiner> The entirety of the ~16 properties of the block is based on a single Enum

L1001[21:30:46] <KnightMiner> One enum per block, construct it in some nice place

L1002[21:31:07] <tterrag> we don't use custom block classes

L1003[21:31:11] <tterrag> unless it's absolutely necessary

L1004[21:31:14] <tterrag> because it's usually not

L1005[21:31:16] <KnightMiner> If needed use some sorcery to make a larger enum split into two property

L1006[21:31:28] <KnightMiner> No custom block classes? Not even a base chisel class?

L1007[21:31:33] <tterrag> exactly

L1008[21:31:34] <tterrag> one class

L1009[21:31:42] <tterrag> https://github.com/Chisel-Team/Chisel/blob/1.10/dev/src/main/java/team/chisel/common/block/BlockCarvable.java

L1010[21:31:46] <KnightMiner> All the ones in Tinkers could in theroy run from one class, just pass the enum into the constructor

L1011[21:32:00] <Phanta> https://gist.github.com/phantamanta44/44700d854bcc0c2b70a54f19f787ff57 here

L1012[21:32:22] <tterrag> KnightMiner: not with statically defined properties

L1013[21:32:41] <williewillus> Phanta: good lord what is happening :p

L1014[21:32:54] <tterrag> that code is nonsense

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L1016[21:32:59] <tterrag> no extended states in to/from meta

L1017[21:33:04] <tterrag> DON'T USE META PROPERTIES

L1018[21:33:08] <williewillus> did you copy the unlisted property stuff from someone/where?

L1019[21:33:26] <Phanta> no I wrote it all myself from what I've gleaned by looking at the documents and some source code from other mods

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L1021[21:33:44] <tterrag> nowhere in the documents does it say to use extended state like that...

L1022[21:33:44] <Phanta> also the point of "meta" was to be the ordinal of the associated Type enum value modulo 16

L1023[21:33:52] <Phanta> but I realized it was just the meta anyways

L1024[21:34:03] <williewillus> you still can't store more than 16 variations per block id

L1025[21:34:09] <tterrag> in fact extended states are not mentioned anywhere

L1026[21:34:13] <williewillus> it's not unlimited meta

L1027[21:34:24] <KnightMiner> And getMetaFromState is where you convert the state to meta, that should not be done using s separate property in any case

L1028[21:34:24] <Phanta> yeah I'm using multiple instances of BlockNetherOre

L1029[21:34:46] <williewillus> get rid of all the extended state/unlisted prop stuff first of all

L1030[21:34:50] <tterrag> step 1. get rid of PROP_META and PROP_ORE_TYPE

L1031[21:34:54] <tterrag> step 2. make PROP_TYPE a normal property

L1032[21:34:55] <williewillus> then use a single propertyenum with predicates

L1033[21:35:06] <tterrag> step 3. ^

L1034[21:35:44] <Phanta> wait what's a predicate

L1035[21:35:48] <Phanta> that's not mentioned in the docs either

L1036[21:36:18] <williewillus> """ You can also use only a subset of the Enum values (for example, you can use only 4 of the 16 EnumDyeColor‘s. Take a look at the other overloads of PropertyEnum.create) """

L1037[21:38:06] <tterrag> predicate would basically just be t -> t.ordinal()/16 == blockindex

L1038[21:38:15] <tterrag> blockindex being 0,1,2,...

L1039[21:38:42] <williewillus> that assumes each blockindex uses a full 16 enum values though right?

L1040[21:39:10] <Phanta> so each instance of BlockNetherOre has its own instance of PROP_TYPE?

L1041[21:39:18] <tterrag> williewillus: no?

L1042[21:39:22] <tterrag> it would just stop whenever the enum does

L1043[21:39:33] <tterrag> Phanta: yes, it would have to

L1044[21:43:06] <Phanta> also PROP_ORE_TYPE is meant to be a transient thing used for rendering

L1045[21:43:25] <tterrag> ok but why

L1046[21:43:33] <tterrag> you could just do getValue(PROP_TYPE).getOreType()

L1047[21:43:43] <Phanta> is that supported in blockstate jsons though

L1048[21:43:49] <tterrag> ah

L1049[21:43:52] <tterrag> no

L1050[21:43:58] <tterrag> I see what you mean then, that's fine

L1051[21:44:03] <Phanta> so I should make it a normal prop

L1052[21:44:05] <tterrag> it should be your own IProperty impl though

L1053[21:44:11] <tterrag> which automatically refers to the Type

L1054[21:44:17] <tterrag> so you aren't duplicating data

L1055[21:44:52] <tterrag> actually nvm

L1056[21:44:55] <tterrag> I'm being dumb

L1057[21:45:09] <tterrag> use a normal PropertyEnum, set it in getActualState

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L1059[21:45:44] <Phanta> ok thx

L1060[21:51:22] <williewillus> !dcc

L1061[21:51:53] <williewillus> !dcc

L1062[21:56:19] <Phanta> is there a way to limit the possible permutations of ores?

L1063[21:56:46] <Phanta> i.e. prevent things like "netherOre0[ore_type=raw,type=ruby]" from happening, since ruby always has an ore_type of gem

L1064[21:57:04] <williewillus> honestly I'd just split it by ore type

L1065[21:57:06] <Phanta> actually no, I'll just remove the ore type property

L1066[21:57:19] <tterrag> I mean

L1067[21:57:23] <tterrag> would that combination ever exist?

L1068[21:57:27] <tterrag> it's up to you in your getActualState

L1069[21:57:42] <Phanta> it wouldn't

L1070[21:57:49] <Phanta> each Type is mapped one-to-one with an OreType

L1071[21:57:54] <Phanta> er, many-to-one

L1072[21:57:56] <tterrag> so then it's not a problem

L1073[21:58:37] <Phanta> e.g. osmium->metal, iron->metal, ruby->gem, coal->raw

L1074[21:58:44] <Phanta> I figure it'd probably be best to just scrap ORE_TYPE

L1075[21:58:55] <tterrag> uh...what

L1076[21:59:35] <Phanta> https://gist.github.com/phantamanta44/44700d854bcc0c2b70a54f19f787ff57 check out the bottom bit of the first file

L1077[22:00:46] <tterrag> I see that

L1078[22:01:02] <tterrag> but BlockNetherOre.Type is your distinguishing enum

L1079[22:01:05] <tterrag> that should be your persisted property

L1080[22:02:14] <Phanta> the problem is that I end up with garbage combinations such as type=osmium,ore_type=raw

L1081[22:02:43] <williewillus> ooh something else interesting in 1.12: PathNavigateFlying

L1082[22:02:51] <Phanta> and that causes MissingVariantExceptions apparently

L1083[22:03:01] <tterrag> you could probably use a statemapper to null those out

L1084[22:03:02] <tterrag> not sure

L1085[22:03:16] <tterrag> I haven't had that problem myself

L1086[22:03:20] <williewillus> probably more effort than just splitting it :P

L1087[22:07:09] <tterrag> Phanta: actually I think the easiest way would be your own IBlockState and override getValidStates

L1088[22:07:15] <tterrag> that's the 'most correct' way

L1089[22:08:27] <Phanta> yeah that makes sense

L1090[22:08:38] <tterrag> return super.getValidStates().entrySet().stream().filter(s -> s.getValue(PROP_TYPE).getOreType() == s.getValue(ORE_TYPE))...

L1091[22:08:38] <Phanta> but I just finished writing a really long blockstate json so I guess I'm stuck with this now

L1092[22:08:57] <tterrag> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost

L1093[22:09:12] <tterrag> or more specifically https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy

L1094[22:09:14] <Phanta> reading that article would constitute a sunk cost

L1095[22:09:38] <tterrag> point is...don't create something subpar because you are afraid to throw out work

L1096[22:09:40] <Phanta> anyways, this results in the same thing and also probably gives resource pack creators more flexibility

L1097[22:09:45] <tterrag> there is no such thing as a sunk cost...

L1098[22:10:10] <tterrag> or rather...it is a fallacy to think that you must continue down your current path for no other reason than to not throw out work

L1099[22:10:39] <Phanta> lol I think that's the reason 90% of my projects on github are unfinished

L1100[22:11:19] <tterrag> the first step to improvement is realizing there is a problem :P

L1101[22:11:32] <killjoy> It's called the programming cycle for a reason

L1102[22:11:48] <killjoy> it only ends in obselecence

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L1104[22:14:08] <illy> or booze it could end in booze

L1105[22:14:14] <illy> :P

L1106[22:16:05] <williewillus> it amuses me how mojang handled the parrot cookie thing lol

L1107[22:16:24] <kashike> hehe

L1108[22:16:24] <killjoy> The thing is, ever tutorial says to use a cookie

L1109[22:16:50] <tterrag> that's why they made it kill the parrot

L1110[22:17:06] <killjoy> mojang are huge trolls :P

L1111[22:17:11] <tterrag> "oh it doesn't work" has a much different reaction than "holy crap it murdered my parrot"

L1112[22:17:17] <tterrag> especially to little kids who may have birds in the home

L1113[22:17:42] <williewillus> i know but it was still amusing

L1114[22:17:45] <williewillus> the whole progression was like

L1115[22:18:23] <williewillus> mojang: cookies to tame -> community: parrots can't eat chocolate irl! -> mojang: okay -> mojang: deal 45 seconds of poison and 1.7e38 hearts of damage

L1116[22:18:43] <williewillus> from the player, so if you tamed it it shows the slain message

L1117[22:21:08] <Phanta> do I need a variant called "normal" in my blockstate json?

L1118[22:21:39] <williewillus> no, that's only if you have no properties declared

L1119[22:22:03] <Phanta> I'm getting a strange MissingVariantException

L1120[22:22:09] <Phanta> "Exception loading model for variant finalvoyage:netherOre#normal for blockstates [ ... ]"

L1121[22:24:48] <Phanta> actually I need sleep

L1122[22:24:50] <Phanta> bbl I guess

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L1124[22:25:34] <williewillus> whoah TextComponentKeybind that's nice

L1125[22:26:05] <killjoy> I can see the use for that :)

L1126[22:27:44] <killjoy> I don't understand the purpose of field_198639_d

L1127[22:27:54] <killjoy> *193639

L1128[22:28:02] <tterrag> !gf 193639

L1129[22:28:18] <KnightMiner> It would help if it had a mapping name maybe :P

L1130[22:28:19] <kashike> killjoy: set on the client to provide a Supplier of the translated value

L1131[22:28:32] <killjoy> I see now.

L1132[22:28:38] <kashike> default impl returns the keybind id

L1133[22:28:53] <tterrag> KnightMiner: well...chicken egg problem

L1134[22:28:56] <tterrag> can't name it without knowing what it is

L1135[22:29:02] <KnightMiner> Obfuscated code reminds me of some of the students in my prog II class: teacher asks what is the variable "A", "B", and "C"

L1136[22:29:05] <kashike> it's named already :P

L1137[22:29:14] <killjoy> Probably not the best way to do that, but I guess it works

L1138[22:29:23] <kashike> how would you do it?

L1139[22:29:28] <KnightMiner> Easy, call it chickenEgg

L1140[22:29:41] <killjoy> I said it probably wasn't the best way, not that I would do it different :/

L1141[22:29:50] <williewillus> but that implies there's a better wayu

L1142[22:29:52] <williewillus> *way

L1143[22:29:52] <KnightMiner> Or just call it duck billed plateaus, that never went wrong

L1144[22:31:28] <williewillus> the formatting on lambdas in ternaries is funky lol

L1145[22:31:41] <williewillus> (func_193626_ba) it's like a face!

L1146[22:32:05] <kashike> williewillus: go look in net.minecraft.client.util.RecipeBookClient

L1147[22:32:10] <kashike> that's weird formatting :P

L1148[22:32:17] <killjoy> You mean : () ->?

L1149[22:32:46] <williewillus> yeah

L1150[22:32:51] <killjoy> Do we have 1.12 mcpbot yet?

L1151[22:32:55] <killjoy> !version

L1152[22:32:59] <kashike> yes and no

L1153[22:33:00] <killjoy> :)

L1154[22:33:01] <kashike> readonly currently

L1155[22:33:02] <killjoy> :(

L1156[22:33:05] <kashike> an issue is being fixed

L1157[22:33:07] <killjoy> :|

L1158[22:33:39] <williewillus> did anyone ever find out if tabs are automatically added to the book for mod creative tabs? 0.o

L1159[22:34:07] <killjoy> Looks like it.

L1160[22:34:23] <williewillus> what happens if there's too many? :P

L1161[22:34:34] <killjoy> recipeMap.computeIfAbsent()

L1162[22:35:57] <killjoy> I don't like how it's decompiled so all lambdas have a body

L1163[22:36:17] <kashike> could be worse

L1164[22:36:23] <killjoy> Can intellij auto-collapse those?

L1165[22:36:47] <killjoy> It's just replacing it with {...}

L1166[22:36:56] <luacs1998> how would i use the callbacks feature in the FML registries?

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L1169[22:45:20] <killjoy> !mh getBrightness

L1170[22:45:36] <killjoy> What happened to that method?

L1171[22:45:52] <killjoy> it was on EntityPlayer I think

L1172[22:47:00] <williewillus> lost its parameter

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