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L93[10:11:49] <TechnicianLP> going into the
exu-mining-dim is a BAD idea ...it constantly crashes you
L94[10:12:19] <gigaherz> I have seen people
use it without crashing
L95[10:12:39] <Ashindigo_> sounds like
fun
L96[10:12:41] *
Ashindigo_ does it
L97[10:13:47] <TechnicianLP>
haste.endstation-minecraft.de/aqipejibez.log
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L141[13:22:58] <Altenius> If I am using a
(closed source) mod and I want to rewrite a method that's causing
crashes, would that be possible?
L142[13:25:27] <TechnicianLP> so you want
to patch the mod? personal or public use?
L143[13:27:15] <Altenius> For a
server
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L145[13:27:50] <Altenius> Not personal but
private
L146[13:40:19] <gigaherz> Altenius: well
"closed-source" is too vague
L147[13:40:28] <gigaherz> the license
could allow many things
L148[13:40:30] <gigaherz> but generally
speaking
L149[13:40:35] <gigaherz>
"copyright" applies to copies
L150[13:40:40] <gigaherz> that is,
distributing things
L151[13:40:55] <gigaherz> if you take a
thing and edit it slightly, it may not be copyright infringement
per se
L152[13:40:59] <gigaherz> that's how
modding works
L153[13:41:25] <gigaherz> just because
what you are modding happens to be a mod, doesn't change
anything
L154[13:42:23] <Altenius> That's fine, but
I'
L155[13:42:27] <Lord_Ralex> tell that to
some modders, who think even privately changing somehow isn't
acceptable
L156[13:42:30] <Altenius> I'm not
distributing it
L157[13:42:55] <gigaherz> Lord_Ralex: yeah
they can have a tantrum if they want
L158[13:42:59] <gigaherz> it's like
Nintendo hating emulators
L159[13:43:02] <gigaherz> that doesn't
make them illegal
L160[13:43:38] <gigaherz> (with exceptions
-- they are illegal in some places, on the grounds that they allow
defeating DRM)
L161[13:44:17] <gigaherz> Altenius: yeah
so unless you happen to be in a country/state where copyright can
overextend its reach
L162[13:44:28] <gigaherz> editing the data
for private use doesn't imply a breach of copyright
L163[13:44:56] <TechnicianLP> do you know
how to edit?
L164[13:45:48] <gigaherz> that's the other
thing
L165[13:46:12] <gigaherz> in order to
actually replace that one method, you'd have to either decompile,
edit, and compile again, or use bytecode patching
L166[13:46:36] <Altenius> Probably the
bytecode patching path
L167[13:46:50] <gigaherz> well then, have
fun ;P
L168[13:47:37] <TechnicianLP> depending on
how big the thing is you want to patch ... recompiling might be
faster than using a bytecodeeditor
L169[13:49:27] <Altenius> I tried
decompiling with procyon and got some "cannot decompile this
method" errors and I have a feeling it won't be worth it to
deal with all those
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L172[14:05:19] <Altenius> Would bytecode
patching require disassembling to some assembler language?
L173[14:06:10] <gigaherz> bytecode
patching is the kind of thing where if you don't know how it works,
then you are not ready to do it yet ;P
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L175[14:07:46] <IoP> Is using javassist
for bytecode gen cheating?
L176[14:08:09] <Altenius> I'm not super
familiar with java's virtual machine but I have a lot of experience
with x86/64 assembly and reverse engineering smali code on
android... would that not help here?
L177[14:08:38] <Lymia> There's libraries
that load JVM bytecode into data structures you can directly
manipulate.
L178[14:09:03] <Lymia> gigaherz, just like
how if you don't have 10 years experience, you aren't ready for
entry level positions, right? :v
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L186[14:35:02] <gigaherz> Lymia: nah it's
more like, if you aren't able to google around for the information,
how can you ever hope to successfully edit the bytecode?
L187[14:35:29] <gigaherz> Altenius: it
would certainly reduce the effort needed to familiarize yourself
with the bytecode encoding
L188[14:35:37] <gigaherz> but really
L189[14:35:41] <gigaherz> I don't know
enough myself
L190[14:35:44] <gigaherz> to be able to
guide you
L191[14:41:19] <killjoy> ow2 has a pdf
explaining everything
L193[14:41:51] <killjoy> Lymia, ^
L194[14:42:03] <killjoy> Read that, then
ask for help
L195[14:42:24] <killjoy> It's only 154
pages. That's nothing
L196[14:42:55] <gigaherz> you mean
Altenius ^
L197[14:42:57] <gigaherz> ;P
L198[14:43:00] <killjoy> 133 if you don't
count the front/backmatter
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L200[14:45:14] <Altenius> Thanks
L201[14:56:02] <Lumien> Altenius that doc
probably won't help you much
L202[14:56:11] <Lumien> Just look at some
open source mods that do asm
L203[14:58:17] <Altenius> Looking at
OpenComputers atm
L204[14:58:46] <Altenius> What mod written
in Java (and not scala) uses it?
L205[15:01:44] <Lymia> The API's the same,
and there isn't a Scala wrapper, so.
L206[15:01:51] <Lymia> idk what mods are
around nowadays
L207[15:01:55] <Lymia> ASM is a very
standard library
L208[15:02:02] <Lymia> You can probably go
look for non-mod examples too
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L210[15:07:18] <Altenius> Scala just has
some minor syntax that I don't understand but I switched to looking
at Applied Energistics now.
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L213[15:16:43] <Curle> \o/
L214[15:17:07] <Curle> I feel like Doctor
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L215[15:17:09] <Curle> It's alive!
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L217[15:22:38] <LexManos> -.-
L218[15:23:20] <Curle> Hm?
L219[15:35:09] <Shambling> _-_
L220[15:41:03] <Ashindigo_> .-.
L221[15:42:33] <Curle> ;-;
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L224[15:46:03] <killjoy> There's too much
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L225[15:48:29] <Deamon> also learning asm
from mods is like learning to paint from a blind person
L226[15:48:31] *
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L227[15:48:36] <Curle> that's a dangerous
name
L228[15:48:37] <Curle> xD
L229[15:48:51] <killjoy> me or asm?
L230[15:49:00] <Curle> Both
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Asmifier that will generate ASM API code given a compiled
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L367[22:12:30] <StormCloud> Is there an
easy way to profile a minecraft client? I'm finding tons of ways to
profile the preformance server side, but none for the client
side
L368[22:14:36] <tterrag> any
profiler?
L369[22:14:51] <tterrag> sampler?
L370[22:20:46] <StormCloud> At this point
literaly any way to figure out what mod is creating a client side
only memory leak, without adding and removing every bloody
mod.
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L372[22:21:46] <williewillus> run the
server separately?
L373[22:21:55] <williewillus> and then use
a normal profiler on the client
L374[22:22:11] <williewillus> also don't
go one by one do a "binary search"
L375[22:22:30] <williewillus> remove half
the mods -> is the issue still there? -> if so, it's none of
the half you just eliminated -> repeat
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L378[22:39:45] <StormCloud> I tried using
virtualvm on the basic client, all it could do was give me the
amount of the heap being used, and the number of threads. No heap
dump, no thread dump, nothing.
L379[22:41:01] <williewillus> visualvm has
an object tab
L380[22:41:04] <williewillus> and you can
take heap dumps
L381[22:41:28] <StormCloud> Yeah, it
wasn't working on the client
L382[22:42:05] <williewillus> what do you
mean not working? visualvm doesn't show all its tabs?
L383[22:42:27] <StormCloud> It would spit
an error whenever I tried to do a heapdump or a thread dump
L384[22:42:30] <jjw123> I dont understand
why Items have a creative tab, and not a creative tab has items I
get that there's not much reason for an item to be in more than one
tab, but it's a functionality that could be useful (shower
thoughts)
L385[22:42:46] <williewillus> jjw123:
because mojang doesn't need tabs to have items
L386[22:42:53] <williewillus> because all
items only belong to one tab in vanilla
L387[22:43:01] <williewillus> (or
none)
L388[22:43:03] <StormCloud> It wouldn't
show the CPU graph, the buttons to take samples where greyed
out
L389[22:43:28] <williewillus> hmm are you
on oracle jdk? maybe use oracle's profiler
L390[22:43:32] <williewillus> jmc i think
it was called
L391[22:43:57] <williewillus> or yourkit
(if you can get a license), (c)sampler, or warmroast (if that's
still alive)
L392[22:44:30] <jjw123> i get that,
williewillus, but it just makes more sense to me t have it the
other way around in case its ever beeded :P
L393[22:44:39] <jjw123> needed*
L394[22:44:50] <williewillus> "in
case it's ever needed" is a no no in software dev ;p
L395[22:45:43] <jjw123> not really. you
design a system with future expansion in mind and you wont have to
rewrite it all in the future
L396[22:46:16] <williewillus> but in this
specific case it's an easy refactor
L397[22:46:28] <williewillus> so no need
to design for a future that probably won't occur
L398[22:47:12] <williewillus> also iirc
tabs can have items, lemme check
L399[22:47:57] <williewillus> ah yeah tabs
loop through the registry to find which ones have getCreativeTab ==
this
L400[22:48:02] <williewillus> which i
admit is a bit weird lol
L401[22:48:45] <jjw123> yeah it makes no
sense to me. makes a lot more sense to store them within the tab
object. maybe theres a reason for that that I cant think of
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L408[23:46:49] <StormCloud> okay, sooo
when I try to get a heap dump, of minecraft, running it using the
JDK 1.8.0_91 javaw.exe
L409[23:47:20] <StormCloud> Using the
jvisualvm that came with that JDK, I get this error message
L410[23:47:26] <StormCloud> Error:
L411[23:48:12] <StormCloud> Cannot take
heap dump fornet.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch (pid:12316)
L412[23:51:52] <StormCloud> Is there some
kind of BS where the vanilla minecraft launcher wraps it in a shell
that's incompatable with visualvm?
L413[23:53:24] <kashike> what
L414[23:53:34] <kashike> you're doing
something wrong, it's certainly possible to do
L415[23:53:51] <killjoy> launching mc with
the right jvm arguments?
L416[23:54:26] <kashike> (I'd help, but
I've never used jvisualvm. I use yourkit)
L417[23:54:53] <killjoy> I suggest mission
control
L418[23:54:56] <killjoy> it comes with
jdk8