OCLogs: 2017-03-11.log

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L4[00:12:19] <blupilot> Hello, how would i make it so my mod only adds a recipe if an oredictionary registry is detected? For example, only add recipe for x block if y item is detected in oredictionary

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L6[00:24:29] <mezz> blupilot, you can use OreDictionary#doesOreNameExist

L7[00:24:53] <blupilot> Oh okay, thanks, I'll try that

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L13[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20170311 mappings to Forge Maven.

L14[02:00:08] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20170311-1.11.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20170311" in build.gradle).

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L39[03:32:49] <blupilot> Has the thermal foundation and cofhcore source code been released? If not, a deobfuscated dev version

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L41[03:34:04] <ghz|afk> not the1.10.2 code, I don't think

L42[03:34:13] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/CoFH/ThermalFoundation

L43[03:34:26] <ghz|afk> that has only 1.7.10

L44[03:35:17] <blupilot> Darn, I'm trying to make an addon for Thermal Foundation metals to work in Tinkers' Construct

L45[03:35:33] <blupilot> And also alloying with them and such

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L47[03:36:59] <ghz|afk> well then

L48[03:37:02] <ghz|afk> take BON2

L49[03:37:10] <ghz|afk> and run the normal jar through it

L50[03:37:24] <ghz|afk> it's best this way either way

L51[03:37:35] <ghz|afk> since you'll be using YOUR choice of mappings

L52[03:37:36] <ghz|afk> and not theirs

L53[03:37:40] <ghz|afk> which reduces potential conflicts

L54[03:37:58] <blupilot> Oh okay, I'll give that a try, thanks very much!

L55[03:38:20] <mezz> blupilot, they have been released here https://github.com/TheCBProject

L56[03:38:35] <blupilot> Alright, thanks!

L57[03:38:46] <ghz|afk> weird

L58[03:38:54] <blupilot> Yeah :P

L59[03:39:04] <mezz> it started as a fork to update to 1.10 by TheCBProject before KingLemming started on it again

L60[03:39:09] <ghz|afk> I see

L61[03:39:17] <mezz> it will probably go back to the CoFH repository some time soonish

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L63[03:39:27] <blupilot> Okay :P

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L72[04:37:40] <blupilot> Hmm, when I add the required dependencies (CoFHCore, ThermalFoundation, CodeChickenCore) CoFHCore doesn't seem to want to download

L73[04:44:16] <blupilot> My error and build.gradle: http://pastebin.com/GZ7jbRBp

L74[04:44:41] <Jaymoe|Off> Any idea why my sign isnt rendering the ends of the bar? http://prntscr.com/eiliiv

L75[04:45:45] <TechnicianLP> blupilot: try puting the repositories section under the apllyplugin

L76[04:45:57] <blupilot> Okay, one sec

L77[04:47:05] <TechnicianLP> Jaymoe: try switching to spectator mod and see if its rendered for the inside of the bar

L78[04:48:03] <blupilot> TechnicianLP: Still getting the same error :/

L79[04:49:30] <Jaymoe|Off> @TechnicianLP, same in spectator mode

L80[04:50:04] <Jaymoe|Off> i think it might be too many vertexes on that face for the objloader..

L81[04:50:13] <blupilot> maybe

L82[04:51:07] <ghz|afk> BlueMonster

L83[04:51:11] <ghz|afk> blupilot*

L84[04:51:11] <ghz|afk> http://maven.covers1624.net/cofh/CoFHCore/1.10.2-4.1.0.155/

L85[04:51:15] <ghz|afk> the jar isn't there

L86[04:51:15] <ghz|afk> XD

L87[04:51:23] <blupilot> oh lol

L88[04:51:24] <PaleoCrafter> triangulate your faces on export, Jaymoe|Off

L89[04:51:29] <ghz|afk> you have to choose a variant

L90[04:51:32] <ghz|afk> :universal

L91[04:51:43] <blupilot> oh okay

L92[04:51:56] <ghz|afk> so like

L93[04:51:59] <ghz|afk> deobfCompile "cofh:CoFHCore:1.10.2-4.1.0.155+:universal"

L94[04:52:04] <TechnicianLP> jei: https://hastebin.com/patevowoya

L95[04:52:15] <blupilot> Alright I'll try that

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L97[04:57:50] <Jaymoe> hmm

L98[04:58:02] <Jaymoe> triangulated the faces and it still says it has more than 4 vertices.

L99[04:59:10] <TechnicianLP> so you get exceptions?

L100[04:59:54] <Jaymoe> ye

L101[05:00:31] <Jaymoe> and in the obj file it clearly has 2 faces with way more than 4 vertices, i just cant figure out why, it shouldve been splitup

L102[05:01:42] <blupilot> ghz|afk: Ah, added ":deobf" to cofhcore, thermal foundation, and codechickenlib and build succeeded!

L103[05:01:44] <blupilot> many thanks

L104[05:05:43] <ghz|afk> ugh

L105[05:05:45] <ghz|afk> no

L106[05:05:49] <ghz|afk> if you use deobf there

L107[05:05:54] <ghz|afk> then deobfCompile is useless

L108[05:06:02] <ghz|afk> and you can give yourself problems

L109[05:06:05] <blupilot> oh :o

L110[05:06:14] <ghz|afk> because using pre-mapped builds

L111[05:06:24] <ghz|afk> means that if your choice of mappings is incompatible with theirs

L112[05:06:26] <ghz|afk> stuff won't work

L113[05:06:39] <blupilot> yikes

L114[05:06:55] <ghz|afk> it's always best to use srg builds (non-dev) along with deobfCompile, where possible

L115[05:07:13] <blupilot> oh okay, so change to :universal?

L116[05:07:16] <ghz|afk> yes

L117[05:07:20] <blupilot> alright

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L122[05:18:35] <Jaymoe> Ty PaleoCrafter =) ! Got it working now

L123[05:34:29] <Jaymoe> Is it possible to make the collission/bounding box follow the 3d model :o ?

L124[05:35:03] <PaleoCrafter> you can approximate them, Jaymoe

L125[05:35:09] <Jaymoe> sounds fun x)

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L133[06:36:00] <Jaymoe> I'm making "groups" in my mod, each group will hold a leader and members. How do i save the entire group to nbt?

L134[06:36:10] <Jaymoe> Do i have to save everything piece by piece?

L135[06:37:07] <Ordinastie> most likely

L136[06:37:47] <Jaymoe> So in this case its probably easier to save in files.

L137[06:38:06] <Ordinastie> probably not

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L139[06:46:23] <Akkarin> Just use a tag for the leader UUID (or a compound if you need to store the name as well) and do the same for members as a list?

L140[06:48:31] <Jaymoe> I will keep trying abit on the nbt, but everyone else seems to write to json files.

L141[06:48:38] <Jaymoe> HQM, BQ

L142[06:51:02] <Akkarin> Well generally there is no difference apart from the fact that JSONs are human readable and need parsing

L143[06:51:34] <Akkarin> NBT is generally your goto since well ... you can just store stuff in the existing files easily and it's designed for computers rather than actual people

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L147[07:31:50] <TechnicianLP> should i make a research station make look more like a table or more like a factorio style lab?

L148[07:32:09] <TechnicianLP> (being roundish)

L149[07:37:32] <ghz|afk> :3

L150[07:37:40] <ghz|afk> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/2017-03-11_14.37.08.png

L151[07:37:45] <ghz|afk> love SCM

L152[07:38:16] <ghz|afk> (that's an xor gate)

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L154[07:39:33] <TechnicianLP> whats the thing above the armor? and why does the terminal have arrows?

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L156[07:42:48] <ghz|afk> those are the charge of the lava charm

L157[07:43:19] <ghz|afk> the "arrows" are my modified hotbar resource pack

L158[07:43:29] <ghz|afk> they mark the current item

L159[07:43:56] <TechnicianLP> ah nice

L160[07:45:14] <ghz|afk> TechnicianLP: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/betterhotbar.zip

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L165[08:09:31] <ScottehBoeh> Morning

L166[08:09:33] <ScottehBoeh> (or afternoon)

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L168[08:27:20] <Ashindigo_> what is EnumChatFormatting in 1.11?

L169[08:28:07] <Ordinastie> TextFormatting ?

L170[08:28:24] <Ashindigo_> thanks

L171[08:28:47] <ghz|afk> Ashindigo_:

L172[08:28:47] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/kashike/migration/wiki/1.8.9-to-1.9

L173[08:28:57] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/kashike/migration/wiki/1.9-to-1.9.4

L174[08:29:02] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/kashike/migration/wiki/1.10.2-to-1.11

L175[08:29:10] <ghz|afk> all your name changing needs

L176[08:29:11] <ghz|afk> ;P

L177[08:29:17] <ghz|afk> also the !mh command

L178[08:29:19] <ghz|afk> for method changes

L179[08:32:50] <Ashindigo_> oh thank you

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L181[08:39:22] <ScottehBoeh> Intellij is a charm for that stuff :D I just wrote "format" and it showed me the new class

L182[08:40:14] * Ashindigo_ runs off with eclipse

L183[08:40:36] <Ordinastie> eclipse does it too

L184[08:40:57] <ScottehBoeh> I use eclipse for my CC mod

L185[08:41:03] <ScottehBoeh> it does it too, but it seems slower :\

L186[08:41:10] <ScottehBoeh> In other news, finished my Grind Stone model: http://i.imgur.com/oKMGTcb.png

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L189[08:46:48] <TechnicianLP> scotteh: does that programm export to json or to obj?

L190[08:48:14] <diesieben07> neither

L191[08:48:18] <ScottehBoeh> Afraid not, however I do have a jar I use to convert it from techne to obj

L192[08:48:28] <diesieben07> it's a terrible piece of garbage that outputs terrible proprietary java models...

L193[08:48:46] <ScottehBoeh> :(

L194[08:48:55] <ScottehBoeh> and I take that garbage and turn it into art :D

L195[08:49:38] <Ordinastie> just learn to use blender

L196[08:49:42] <Ordinastie> it's not that complicated

L197[08:50:32] <ghz|afk> or like, ANY other 3d program

L198[08:50:33] <ghz|afk> ;p

L199[08:50:42] <TechnicianLP> oruse json ;)

L200[08:50:44] <ghz|afk> literally anything that outputs .obj

L201[08:51:38] <diesieben07> not necessarly obj

L202[08:51:43] <diesieben07> but like... anything that's a model format

L203[08:51:51] <diesieben07> not a java file...

L204[08:52:06] <ScottehBoeh> look

L205[08:52:16] <ScottehBoeh> I use toolbox, it limits me to using blocky shapes

L206[08:52:18] <ScottehBoeh> and I like that fact

L207[08:52:26] <ScottehBoeh> and I've used it for a veeery long time

L208[08:53:28] <diesieben07> if you can get it to output obj... sure

L209[08:54:01] <diesieben07> but you are using the java models it produces, which is terrible for performance and compatibilitiy

L210[08:54:32] <PaleoCrafter> well... this is interesting: https://github.com/sbt/sbt/blob/ef56db9885449d47f8ef200986bc9517b8cf2085/main/src/main/scala/sbt/Main.scala#L96

L211[08:55:36] <ScottehBoeh> http://i.imgur.com/UaGC8bJ.png

L212[08:55:41] <ScottehBoeh> Grind Wheel complete :D

L213[08:56:26] <Ordinastie> how many superfluous faces left in the model ?

L214[08:58:19] <ghz|afk> judging from the number of boxes int he model, "many" ;P

L215[08:58:31] <ghz|afk> in the*

L216[09:01:26] <ScottehBoeh> -.-

L217[09:01:33] <ScottehBoeh> I'm just going to cut out all the small flaws I see in the images I post

L218[09:03:36] <Ordinastie> "small"

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L220[09:11:33] <ScottehBoeh> eyyy http://i.imgur.com/MA2Px1z.png

L221[09:12:25] <PaleoCrafter> did you check that it can actually rotate? :P

L222[09:12:40] <PaleoCrafter> i.e. without clipping through anything

L223[09:13:03] <ScottehBoeh> It doesn't rotate, it's a static prop, the version that does rotate will look much different

L224[09:14:07] <PaleoCrafter> lol

L225[09:14:30] <PaleoCrafter> doesn't mean it shouldn't technically able to rotate in the static one :P

L226[09:14:52] <TechnicianLP> what is the difference between Block::isFullCube and Block::isFullBlock ?

L227[09:15:17] <PaleoCrafter> look at the usages :P

L228[09:15:27] <ScottehBoeh> hmm, I could give it an animation

L229[09:15:30] <ScottehBoeh> I'll look into that now :D

L230[09:15:44] <diesieben07> makes static prop

L231[09:15:45] <diesieben07> using TESR

L232[09:15:47] * diesieben07 dies

L233[09:16:26] * TechnicianLP already hates decocraft for having done that

L234[09:17:00] <PaleoCrafter> I wonder how often diesieben07 dies in his lifetime

L235[09:17:10] <diesieben07> Too often man. Too often.

L236[09:17:33] <PaleoCrafter> is it just one of your nodes going down or something more severe?

L237[09:18:05] <diesieben07> yeah it's when one of the idiots in the datacenter trips of the ethernet cable again

L238[09:19:27] <PaleoCrafter> must look messy in there :P

L239[09:20:04] <diesieben07> :D

L240[09:20:28] <TechnicianLP> ok Cube seems to be for rendering ... i dont get what block is forthouh

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L242[09:25:17] <ScottehBoeh> I was planning to add Languages

L243[09:25:29] <ScottehBoeh> (orc, dwarf etc) in which the player can upgrade their Language Learning skills reading different books etc

L244[09:25:41] <ScottehBoeh> then over time the letters for each races language begin to transform xD

L245[09:26:36] <ghz|afk> ewh

L246[09:26:40] <ghz|afk> tinker's bows suck badly

L247[09:26:41] <ghz|afk> XD

L248[09:27:02] <ghz|afk> I made some cobalt arrows, and they fly sideways XD

L249[09:27:24] * Ashindigo_ translates his mod to orc

L250[09:27:50] <ghz|afk> I think I'll just keep using my vanilla Power V/Punth I/Mending bow ;P

L251[09:28:01] <ghz|afk> or and /Infinity ;P

L252[09:28:41] <TechnicianLP> sideways in the sense of the model beingrotated the wrong way or do they fly off to the side?

L253[09:29:02] <ghz|afk> as in, they have less accuracy than a dispenser

L254[09:29:25] <TechnicianLP> oh ...

L255[09:29:29] <ghz|afk> I'm sure there are better materials, I just can't be bothered to research

L256[09:29:53] <ghz|afk> the thing describes longbows as being better for high distance shots

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L258[09:30:02] <ghz|afk> if this is better, Ican't imagine the shortbows XD

L259[09:31:54] <ghz|afk> the bows in 1.10 ticon have disappointed me a lot

L260[09:31:58] <ghz|afk> I used to love the crossbows

L261[09:32:10] <ghz|afk> because they would shoot immediately, then charge passively

L262[09:32:16] <ghz|afk> but now you have to hold to charge

L263[09:32:19] <ghz|afk> THEN you can shoot

L264[09:32:38] <ghz|afk> it may be more realistic, but it makes them less fun to use

L265[09:33:28] <ghz|afk> so if they did like, 50 damage per shot

L266[09:33:37] <ghz|afk> maybe I'd use them for like, boss fights

L267[09:35:22] <ScottehBoeh> ok wheel rotates now, it's actually really cool

L268[09:35:27] <ghz|afk> then there's the electric bow from Mekanism

L269[09:35:32] <ghz|afk> anyone understands it?

L270[09:36:58] <Ashindigo_> Shove power and hope for the best?

L271[09:37:00] <Ashindigo_> *in

L272[09:37:31] <ghz|afk> that's the thing

L273[09:37:33] <ghz|afk> when you do that

L274[09:37:36] <ghz|afk> you get a mediocre bow

L275[09:37:42] <ghz|afk> far worse than a Power V vanilla bow

L276[09:37:50] <ghz|afk> and you can't even enchant it, so far as I can tell

L277[09:38:02] <ghz|afk> so no infinity or anything

L278[09:38:35] <ghz|afk> the way I see it, an electric bow should at least let you choose how much power you want, and use more electricity the higher the power you want to give it

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L280[09:39:50] <ghz|afk> now a Plasma Bow, that I could get behind

L281[09:40:11] * Ashindigo_ adds a bow to his mod and continues ignoring jei support

L282[09:40:30] <ghz|afk> a bow-gun that combines both electricity + hydrogen, and lets you shoot high-pressure plasma

L283[09:41:14] <ghz|afk> pseudo-infinity bow, since it would shoot for as long as it has energy and gas

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L285[09:43:54] <ScottehBoeh> PaleoCrafter Get ready to be amazed by the infamous rotating wheel of stone

L286[09:44:01] <PaleoCrafter> lol

L287[09:44:48] <ScottehBoeh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3x7LGCF_IU

L288[09:44:50] <ScottehBoeh> Tada

L289[09:44:55] <ScottehBoeh> (Might still be rendering)

L290[09:45:44] <Ashindigo_> lookin nice

L291[09:45:50] <ScottehBoeh> :D fanks

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L294[10:01:50] <Intektor> I have a maths question right now, I have these two equations: http://i.imgur.com/0hCFgYl.png what does ...(1b) and ... (3b) mean

L295[10:02:07] * Ashindigo_ puts it into wolfram

L296[10:02:18] <Intektor> oh god thank you

L297[10:06:00] <ghz|afk> I have never seen that notation

L298[10:06:10] <Intektor> this is the website

L299[10:06:10] <Intektor> http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/317912/trajectory-with-air-resistance-angle-to-hit-target

L300[10:06:55] <Intektor> And the stupid thing is, that is how the graph looks like when you put x as t http://i.imgur.com/l3CnYts.png

L301[10:07:23] <ghz|afk> hmmm

L302[10:07:31] <ghz|afk> I wonder if they are just "labels" for the equations

L303[10:08:16] <Intektor> I asked him, he said "Those equations tell you the x and y positions of your object after launch at t=0. You need to plot y vs x for different values of t."

L304[10:08:38] <Intektor> but there is t in the quation, why is it then only for t=0?

L305[10:09:25] <TechnicianLP> you start at t=0

L306[10:09:28] <ghz|afk> drag is usually done like, newSpeed = oldSpeed - drag * oldSpeed^2

L307[10:09:48] <ghz|afk> of course the "drag" value there, depends on the timestep

L308[10:09:59] <Intektor> do you see the graph I send you? it doesnt look correct

L309[10:10:47] <ghz|afk> oh wiat I see

L310[10:10:49] <ghz|afk> you want the trajectory

L311[10:10:56] <Intektor> yes

L312[10:11:03] <ghz|afk> I mean the angle

L313[10:11:15] <Intektor> very correct

L314[10:11:31] <ghz|afk> ah that comment

L315[10:11:43] <ghz|afk> when it says "Those equations tell you the x and y positions of your object after launch at t=0. You need to plot y vs x for different values of t."

L316[10:11:45] <ghz|afk> means that

L317[10:12:04] <ghz|afk> if you plug different values of t, you'd get different values of x and y, assuming that t=0 is the launch position

L318[10:12:14] <Intektor> yes+

L319[10:12:16] <ghz|afk> but those equations don't matter for you

L320[10:12:20] <ghz|afk> they are useless

L321[10:12:25] <ghz|afk> since they are not how minecraft represents drag

L322[10:12:50] <Intektor> I said that in the question

L323[10:13:02] <ghz|afk> okay so

L324[10:13:22] <ghz|afk> iirc, mc does speed = speed * 0.99

L325[10:13:24] <ghz|afk> each tick, right?

L326[10:13:29] <Intektor> yes

L327[10:13:44] <Intektor> so is the whole answer useless for me?

L328[10:13:54] <ghz|afk> yes but I'll try to give you a proper answer ;P

L329[10:14:09] <Intektor> if you do, I will send you a present

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L331[10:15:53] <ghz|afk> is the drag computed before or after the position update?

L332[10:17:03] <Intektor> wait

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L334[10:17:58] <Intektor> the drag is computed very last

L335[10:18:12] <ghz|afk> okay

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L337[10:29:50] <ghz|afk> Intektor: got the first half of it (thanks to wolfram alpha). it's not pretty ;P

L338[10:33:31] <Intektor> thank you dude

L339[10:33:37] <Intektor> it does not have to pretty

L340[10:33:40] <Intektor> it just has to work

L341[10:33:54] <Intektor> I think im gonna get wolfram alpha as well

L342[10:34:37] <ghz|afk> it's a website ;P

L343[10:34:57] <Intektor> I just saw

L344[10:34:59] <Intektor> thats awesome

L345[10:37:40] <Intektor> if it works, I well send you a packet :D

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L348[10:43:07] <ghz|afk> Intektor: you want just the angle right, not the power?

L349[10:43:51] <ghz|afk> wait no that wouldn't work

L350[10:44:07] <ghz|afk> the horizontal speed depends on the angle, ugh

L351[10:44:53] <Intektor> I will insert the power

L352[10:45:08] <Intektor> it should calculate the angle by the power etc

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L354[10:46:49] <TechnicianLP> why not look at how the minecraft arrow calculates it?

L355[10:47:01] <ghz|afk> he wants the opposite

L356[10:47:10] <ghz|afk> he wants to compute the angle, given the destination

L357[10:47:15] <ghz|afk> basically, an aimbot

L358[10:49:23] <heldplayer> Don't skeletons kind-of already do that?

L359[10:49:41] * ghz|afk shrugs

L360[10:49:45] <Intektor> no

L361[10:49:47] <Intektor> they dont

L362[10:49:48] <ghz|afk> I think they don't bother

L363[10:49:51] <Intektor> I checked it out

L364[10:49:52] <ghz|afk> they just don't shoot from far away

L365[10:50:02] <ghz|afk> so they just assume they'll hit you in the face

L366[10:50:05] <ghz|afk> and if you are kindof far

L367[10:50:08] <ghz|afk> they may hit you in the feet

L368[10:50:15] <Intektor> their arrows are inaccurate as hell

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L370[10:50:30] <Intektor> its bullshit its like mojang does not know how to do it

L371[10:50:54] * TechnicianLP would not want sniper skeletons

L372[10:51:44] <Intektor> oh believe me, when ghz/me manages to get that working, there will be some :D

L373[10:51:51] <ghz|afk> Intektor: I can assure you, mojang doesn't know.

L374[10:51:59] <ghz|afk> these are advanced maths ;P

L375[10:52:07] <ghz|afk> I don't know even, wolfram alpha did it for me

L376[10:52:25] <ghz|afk> I have absolutely no idea how to approach expanding a recurrent equation

L377[10:52:40] <Intektor> NEW MOD: Sniping Skeletons shoot you from 300 blocks in the face

L378[10:52:59] <ghz|afk> with Power V flame bows :P

L379[10:53:04] <Ashindigo_> pls no

L380[10:53:08] <TechnicianLP> thats when the "sniper duel" achievment would make sense

L381[10:53:27] <TechnicianLP> you forgot punch

L382[10:53:55] <ghz|afk> oooh imagine

L383[10:54:00] <ghz|afk> endermen with aimbot, and punch bows

L384[10:54:02] <ghz|afk> in the end

L385[10:55:13] * ghz|afk wouldn't play there

L386[10:55:40] * Intektor would nuke the end

L387[10:55:53] * Ashindigo_ would just change to peaceful

L388[10:56:11] * TechnicianLP would use a jetpack

L389[10:56:28] <Intektor> they snipe you while moving

L390[10:56:39] <Intektor> they calculate where you might go and aim for that

L391[10:56:45] <ghz|afk> that'd be even more evil

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L393[10:58:29] <ghz|afk> Intektor: welp

L394[10:58:35] <ghz|afk> I can't solve this without a pro account

L395[10:58:36] <ghz|afk> XD

L396[11:00:01] <Intektor> the final calculation?

L397[11:00:08] <ghz|afk> yep

L398[11:00:11] <ghz|afk> I'm trying to simplify somehow

L399[11:00:15] <ghz|afk> but it's THAT complex

L400[11:00:16] <ghz|afk> ;P

L401[11:00:38] <Intektor> so wait, does it work already?

L402[11:00:53] <ghz|afk> no

L403[11:00:54] <ghz|afk> I mean

L404[11:01:06] <ghz|afk> I have the equations needed to solve for the angle

L405[11:01:33] <ghz|afk> but trying to solve that with wolfram alpha exceeds the allowed time for a free query

L406[11:03:56] <Intektor> I see, and you are not willing to pay 12.99$ right? :D

L407[11:04:14] <ghz|afk> nope.

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L409[11:05:06] <Intektor> What exactly are the remaining steps? I think we have something that can calulate the rest?

L410[11:05:11] <ghz|afk> https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/15c8d5b030944cd49b66dcaeb39d5b4d

L411[11:07:04] <Intektor> wait let me check

L412[11:07:18] <ghz|afk> all yours ;P

L413[11:10:55] * Ashindigo_ grumbles at his lack of art skills

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L415[11:12:43] <TechnicianLP> thats some complicated trigonometry ...

L416[11:13:32] <Shambling> if I wanted to override biomes that are allowed in one method, should I put the reflection call in the pre-init, the init, or the post init phase?

L417[11:14:07] <Shambling> most mods declare their biomes in pre-init, correct, so I'm thinking the init phase would be the right spot. But maybe I'm supposed to call it somewhere completely different

L418[11:14:54] <Intektor> ghz|afk, so when we manage to solve those two equations for a we won?

L419[11:15:03] <ghz|afk> in theory

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L421[11:15:11] <ghz|afk> I can't confirm that all the intermediate steps are correct

L422[11:16:29] <TechnicianLP> solving for a shouldnt be that hard .. isnt t just a inverse sinus/cosinus?

L423[11:17:29] <ghz|afk> beyond my maths ;P

L424[11:17:52] <Intektor> TechnicianLP, can you help maybe?

L425[11:18:06] <TechnicianLP> i comented below that thing

L426[11:18:43] <TechnicianLP> its basically just swapping a few terms around an inverting the sin/cos

L427[11:18:57] <TechnicianLP> it *should* be mathematcally corect

L428[11:19:59] <Intektor> so now I just have to solve the x equation for t anf put it in the y equation

L429[11:20:35] <ghz|afk> dont' you just want the angle?

L430[11:21:43] <ghz|afk> wait that looks wrong TechnicianLP

L431[11:22:03] <Intektor> well I need the angle that is required to hot pos x, y

L432[11:22:16] <ghz|afk> yeah the idea is x0,y0 is the player pos

L433[11:22:20] <ghz|afk> x1,y1 is the target pos

L434[11:22:34] <ghz|afk> yo ucan make x0,y0 zero ,and x1,y1 the difference

L435[11:22:37] <Intektor> I have to eleminate t

L436[11:22:49] <ghz|afk> yes that's why I say it seems wrong

L437[11:23:01] <ghz|afk> that "solution" isn't useful, because it doesn't remove t from the equation ;P

L438[11:23:11] <ghz|afk> so you'd have to solve the two equations for t

L439[11:23:20] <ghz|afk> then use first = second

L440[11:23:23] <ghz|afk> removing t from the mix

L441[11:23:26] <ghz|afk> and then solve THAT for a

L442[11:24:50] <Shambling> so I'd like to replace this list public static final List<Biome> ALLOWED_BIOMES = Arrays.<Biome>asList(new Biome[] {Biomes.ROOFED_FOREST, Biomes.MUTATED_ROOFED_FOREST}); with all biomes. Is there a quick and lazy way to do that?

L443[11:25:05] <Intektor> Reflection

L444[11:25:15] <Shambling> yes I know, but where do I grab the list to reflect into that call :P

L445[11:25:37] <Shambling> what list has all biomes pre-registered into it, so that I can put that in the reflectionhelper call

L446[11:25:55] <ghz|afk> what

L447[11:26:00] <ghz|afk> you just pasted the field

L448[11:26:15] <ghz|afk> oh wait

L449[11:26:21] <ghz|afk> you mean "how to I build a list of all biomes"

L450[11:26:27] <Shambling> ReflectionHelper(class, list I posted, whatisthislist)

L451[11:26:27] <ghz|afk> ;P

L452[11:26:37] <ghz|afk> that's a whole unrelated question

L453[11:26:57] <Shambling> I've almost figured out the reflectionhelper, I just want to know what to put into whatisthislist

L454[11:26:58] <Shambling> :P

L455[11:27:05] <ghz|afk> a list

L456[11:27:06] <ghz|afk> with all the biomes

L457[11:27:08] <ghz|afk> ;P

L458[11:27:13] <Shambling> where do I steal that from though

L459[11:27:17] <ghz|afk> no idea XD

L460[11:27:22] <Shambling> k

L461[11:27:22] <ghz|afk> also don't just reuse some other list

L462[11:27:24] <ghz|afk> make a copy ;P

L463[11:27:48] <Shambling> well yes, I generally make a copy before feeding it in, in case it causes a symbolic link instead of working like I expect

L464[11:27:58] <Shambling> because mojang :P

L465[11:29:13] <Shambling> what is the forge reflection helper method name again?

L466[11:29:20] <Shambling> idea won't auto resolve it today and I'm tired and hangry

L467[11:29:40] <Shambling> ah I called it wrong thats why

L468[11:30:10] <Shambling> I don't think I can setfield with a list, can I?

L469[11:30:12] <ghz|afk> that has nothing to do with mojang

L470[11:30:14] <ghz|afk> that's basic java

L471[11:30:17] <ghz|afk> there's no "symbolic link"

L472[11:30:28] <ghz|afk> it's simply that variables for objects are references

L473[11:30:31] <ghz|afk> they aren't copied around, ever

L474[11:30:34] <ghz|afk> unless you do it explicitly

L475[11:30:49] <ghz|afk> the reference to the SAME instance is passed around

L476[11:31:14] <Intektor> we can solve it for a http://i.imgur.com/nN6Hmvk.png

L477[11:31:22] <Intektor> but you are right, for t doesnt work

L478[11:34:54] <Shambling> yeah so it really doesn't like this ReflectionHelper.setPrivateValue(WoodlandMansion.class, ALLOWED_BIOMES,ALL_BIOMES);

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L480[11:35:23] <Shambling> so I'm thinking maybe I can't setprivatevalue on allowed biomes

L481[11:36:24] <DiscworldZA> hey guys ok so after testing the Presisted NBT tag only presists death and it also for some reason doesnt presist any values set inside it for some reason XD

L482[11:36:43] <DiscworldZA> Does this mean i have to do capabilities rather?

L483[11:37:42] <quadraxis> shambling, setPrivateValue(Class <? super T > classToAccess, T instance, E value, String... fieldNames)

L484[11:38:09] <Shambling> problem is, I don't think I've ever seen a working example of what the hell that all means

L485[11:38:37] <quadraxis> so you need an instance of WoodlandMansion

L486[11:38:38] <ghz|afk> the param names are obvious enough

L487[11:38:40] <ghz|afk> "class to access"

L488[11:38:46] <ghz|afk> literally the class you want to access the field from

L489[11:38:51] <Intektor> ghz|afk, when I draw the graph it looks like your calculations are all quite correct

L490[11:38:54] <Shambling> which was what I had there

L491[11:38:58] <ghz|afk> "instance"

L492[11:38:59] <Intektor> that helped me so much further thank you dude

L493[11:39:05] <ghz|afk> literally the object instance you want to modify

L494[11:39:22] <ghz|afk> (an instance of WoodLandMansion or null if static)

L495[11:39:42] <ghz|afk> value: the new value you want assigned to the field

L496[11:39:45] <Shambling> no idea where I would get an instance of woodland mansion, I want to override the whole thing, not just one instance

L497[11:39:54] <ghz|afk> nono

L498[11:39:58] <ghz|afk> in your case it's a static field

L499[11:40:01] <ghz|afk> so it's not an instance field

L500[11:40:04] <ghz|afk> so you just use null in there

L501[11:40:06] <Shambling> ah, so null then?

L502[11:40:06] <Shambling> ok

L503[11:40:12] <ghz|afk> and the fieldNames

L504[11:40:29] <ghz|afk> !gf WoodlandMansion.ALLOWED_BIOMES

L505[11:40:37] <quadraxis> the field names are "ALLOWED_BIOMES" and "field_191072_a"

L506[11:40:42] <ghz|afk> you want "field_191072_a", "ALLOWED_BIOMES"

L507[11:40:45] <ghz|afk> in that order

L508[11:40:49] <ghz|afk> so that the SRG names is tested first

L509[11:40:51] <quadraxis> which you get from asking mcpbot

L510[11:40:52] <ghz|afk> name*

L511[11:41:14] <ghz|afk> if you use the order I suggested, and you run that in dev

L512[11:41:18] <ghz|afk> the srg name will fail

L513[11:41:26] <ghz|afk> and it will try again with the ALLOWED_BIOMES name, whihc will succeed

L514[11:41:31] <ghz|afk> if you run outside dev

L515[11:41:37] <ghz|afk> it will try srg first, and succeed

L516[11:41:51] <ghz|afk> and that's good because you want non-dev to try less times ;P

L517[11:42:18] <quadraxis> well hopefully in future it gets refitted like findMethod did

L518[11:42:53] <Shambling> hmmmm looks like they replaced ForgeRegistry.Biomes with something else

L519[11:43:29] <Shambling> which is weird, because that post I was referencing was make in august 2016

L520[11:43:33] <TechnicianLP> wouldnt all biomes allow them to spawn in the end/nether as well?

L521[11:43:37] <Shambling> don't care

L522[11:43:40] <Shambling> lol :P

L523[11:43:47] <Shambling> they'll spawn in the ocean as well

L524[11:44:00] <Shambling> not my problem, its the illagers problem if they can't survive ;D

L525[11:45:09] <Shambling> but yeah I'll fix that if I can ever get this code to work

L526[11:45:12] <quadraxis> but ForgeRegistries.BIOMES is still a thing, if that's what you ment

L527[11:46:25] <Shambling> weird, its not registering as I type it out

L528[11:46:31] <Shambling> ok let me ctrl-n it and see whats goign on

L529[11:47:18] <Shambling> hrmmm... so someone is saying to call Iterables.toArray(ForgeRegistries.BIOMES) to create the list

L530[11:47:31] <Shambling> but that is saying its a private method and can't be called outside of google blah blah blah

L531[11:48:58] <quadraxis> just do a copy of BIOMES.getValues()

L532[11:49:01] <Ashindigo_> so is custom nbt data just never synced to the client player?

L533[11:49:09] <Ashindigo_> or does my code just hate me

L534[11:49:38] <Shambling> yeah that works, thanks quadraxis

L535[11:49:49] <Shambling> now I just need to figure out where to input my new value;

L536[11:50:51] <quadraxis> as the 'E value' parameter to setPrivateValue(...)

L537[11:52:17] <Shambling> so something like ReflectionHelper.setPrivateValue(WoodlandMansion.class,null, ALL_BIOMES, "field_191072_a", "ALLOWED_BIOMES");?

L538[11:52:52] <quadraxis> yeah

L539[11:53:08] <Shambling> well something didn't like that :D

L540[11:53:14] <Shambling> time to read crash logs now lol

L541[11:53:29] <Shambling> final List<Biome> ALL_BIOMES = ForgeRegistries.BIOMES.getValues(); I'm thinking is the problem

L542[11:53:42] <quadraxis> also pls copy that list

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L546[11:54:52] <Shambling> final List<Biome> All Biomes = new List<Biome>(ForgeRegistries.Biomes.getValues()); or something like that, right?

L547[11:55:14] <quadraxis> new ArrayList, but yes otherwise

L548[11:57:03] <quadraxis> actually this might not matter

L549[11:57:21] <quadraxis> forge is good enough to do this itself

L550[11:57:27] <Shambling> Can not set static final java.util.List field net.minecraft.world.gen.structure.WoodlandMansion.ALLOWED_BIOMES to java.util.ArrayList so something is wrong

L551[11:57:57] <Shambling> the original is an Arrays.<Biome>asList

L552[11:58:20] <Shambling> ... wait no

L553[12:00:22] <quadraxis> "If the underlying field is final, the method throws an IllegalAccessException unless setAccessible(true) has succeeded for this Field object and the field is non-static"

L554[12:01:10] <quadraxis> setAccesible(true) is done by ReflectionHelper, but it looks like this won't work for static fields

L555[12:01:55] <Shambling> I thought I got the error because I was using the wrong field type

L556[12:02:24] <Shambling> i.e. I'm using java.util.ArrayList, where the field is calling for list

L557[12:02:39] <DiscworldZA> ok can anyone explain to me why Presisted Data NBT is not synced to client side on login? its loaded server side but not clientside. The event im trying to cancel must be canceled both server side and client side to stop a desync yet the NBT is not synced on load...

L558[12:02:47] <quadraxis> ArrayList instanceof List is true tho

L559[12:03:08] <Shambling> maybe I need to explicitly cast it as a list then?

L560[12:03:14] <Shambling> *shrug*

L561[12:03:17] <quadraxis> you can do that

L562[12:03:27] <Shambling> after 10 years of not programmign C++, java sometimes goes completely over my head

L563[12:03:27] <Shambling> :P

L564[12:03:32] <quadraxis> but it seems likely that there will still be an error

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L566[12:05:35] <Shambling> why on earth does mojang feel the need to hard code biomes in this case, yeesh

L567[12:09:29] <quadraxis> i have an idea though

L568[12:10:28] <quadraxis> WoodlandMansion.canSpawnStructureAtCoords() calls areBiomesViable()

L569[12:11:26] <Shambling> yeah, like 59 or something

L570[12:11:31] <Shambling> line 59

L571[12:11:35] <quadraxis> so get the overworlds world provider and set the biomeProvider field using reflection

L572[12:11:45] <quadraxis> to a biome provider you create

L573[12:12:04] <quadraxis> that extends the original and overrides areBiomesViable()

L574[12:12:33] <Shambling> I think I had originally wanted ot just override the whole class, someone told me reflection was cleaner

L575[12:12:38] <Shambling> so I dunno

L576[12:12:54] <Shambling> at this point, I'm not even interested in getting mansions in all biomes, I just want to learn what I'm doing wrong. lol

L577[12:13:00] <quadraxis> then in that method check if the 'List<Biome> allowed' parameter == WoodlandMansion.ALLOWED_BIOMES and retrun true in that case

L578[12:13:06] <quadraxis> else return super(...)

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L580[12:14:25] <quadraxis> static final fields are not designed to be replaceable is what i'd say your problem is

L581[12:22:10] <Shambling> yeah I thought that was the whole point of reflection was though

L582[12:22:19] <Shambling> to ignore those cases where some silly man declared something static final

L583[12:22:23] <Shambling> arbitrarily

L584[12:22:24] <Shambling> :D

L585[12:24:43] <Intektor> ghz|afk, why does wolfram, when I solve the x equation for t, put the imaginary number i in it?

L586[12:24:56] <ghz|afk> because the equation has complex solutions.

L587[12:25:05] <ghz|afk> if that solution is the ONLY solution

L588[12:25:08] <ghz|afk> you may have to live with it

L589[12:25:19] <ghz|afk> the imaginary numbers MAY go away when you solve for 'a' afterward

L590[12:25:38] <ghz|afk> if it's not the only solution

L591[12:25:48] <ghz|afk> you probably want to choose one that doesn't have imaginary art

L592[12:25:50] <ghz|afk> part*

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L594[12:29:20] <Intektor> ghz|afk, I got it working: http://i.imgur.com/lEwFWof.png

L595[12:30:01] <ghz|afk> heh

L596[12:31:30] <TechnicianLP> that looks like a calculation perfect to be done every tick

L597[12:33:08] <Jaymoe> hm

L598[12:33:59] <Jaymoe> I have a tileentity that i bind to a person when its placed, if i want that to remain after its broken, do i have to somehow drop the tileentity instead of the block on break then?

L599[12:35:08] <TechnicianLP> you set a tag on the itemstack which you read when placed

L600[12:35:11] <Ashindigo_> you can probably atach data to an itemsack

L601[12:35:51] <Jaymoe> like TE tesseract, when it has an owned and settings

L602[12:35:58] <Jaymoe> hm ok

L603[12:36:07] <Intektor> ghz|afk, to me this looks like the best solution, because g is never 0 and s0 is always 0 isnt it? http://i.imgur.com/Nm9GDlF.png

L604[12:36:40] <g> Never expected to see myself in an equation that complicated o.o

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L606[12:40:55] <Jaymoe> Are u sure that will work TechnicianLP ? I've been trying to store a string for now, i save it with nbt but when i break the block there is that method that removes the tileentity, so its not there when i replace it.

L607[12:43:01] <TechnicianLP> https://hastebin.com/iyabuvidaw.java

L608[12:44:50] <Jaymoe> hm i see

L609[12:44:51] <Jaymoe> thanks

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L613[12:49:34] <Shambling> I swear, if only I could keep this thing from casting back to type arraylist, this would work

L614[12:49:45] <Shambling> no matter what I feed it, it spits out the same error

L615[12:49:46] <Shambling> lol

L616[12:49:59] <Jaymoe> just one question, makeStack(0)?

L617[12:50:30] <Shambling> list is abstract and cannot be abstantiated... meh!

L618[12:51:07] <TechnicianLP> creates an itemstack with the block corresponding to the tile with that metadata

L619[12:51:20] <Jaymoe> ok

L620[12:51:56] <McJty> For an 1.11 I have a conflict with one of my mods and Random Things with this error:

L621[12:51:57] <McJty> Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Duplicate stat id: "TranslatableComponent{key='stat.entityKill', args=[TranslatableComponent{key='entity.spirit.name', args=[], siblings=[], style=Style{hasParent=true, color=null, bold=null, italic=null, underlined=null, obfuscated=null, clickEvent=null, hoverEvent=null, insertion=null}}], siblings=[], style=Style{hasParent=false, color=null, bold=null, italic=null, underlined=null, obfuscated=nul

L622[12:51:57] <McJty> l, clickEvent=null, hoverEvent=null, insertion=null}}" and "TranslatableComponent{key='stat.entityKill', args=[TranslatableComponent{key='entity.spirit.name', args=[], siblings=[], style=Style{hasParent=true, color=null, bold=null, italic=null, underlined=null, obfuscated=null, clickEvent=null, hoverEvent=null, insertion=null}}], siblings=[], style=Style{hasParent=false, color=null, bold=null, italic=null, underlined=null, obfuscated=nu

L623[12:51:59] <McJty> ll, clickEvent=null, hoverEvent=null, insertion=null}}" at id stat.killEntity.spirit

L624[12:52:01] <McJty> whoops sorry

L625[12:52:03] <McJty> That was not the intention

L626[12:52:20] <McJty> Anyway, I meant the Duplicate stat id error

L627[12:53:22] <McJty> I use EntityRegistry.registerModEntity() with resource location equal to: modid,spirit and entityName equal to 'spirit'

L628[12:53:29] <McJty> Should I make the entityName something else?

L629[12:59:54] <Jaymoe> Do you have some custom made nbt stuff there techni? since its .information.write/load/reorientate

L630[13:01:30] <TechnicianLP> its basically a capability of sorts

L631[13:01:36] <Jaymoe> ok

L632[13:02:02] <ghz|afk> [19:36] (Intektor): ghz|afk, to me this looks like the best solution, because g is never 0 and s0 is always 0 isnt it? http://i.imgur.com/Nm9GDlF.png

L633[13:02:03] <ghz|afk> no?

L634[13:02:08] <TechnicianLP> (handling ~18k distinct states)

L635[13:02:08] <ghz|afk> s0 is the initial speed of the arrow

L636[13:02:12] <ghz|afk> calculated from the power

L637[13:04:14] <Shambling> ok yeah I'm going to need to just override this method

L638[13:04:44] <Shambling> as I fed the exact same code as an alternative to the field, and it still spat out that I couldn't reflect from static final java.util.List

L639[13:04:57] <Shambling> so... losing interest... mansions can just not spawn in my modpack

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L641[13:05:18] <Shambling> as I'm not adding roofed forests into my list of allowed biomes for a dying wasteland :P

L642[13:06:03] <quadraxis> well I suggested an alternative method

L643[13:06:15] <Shambling> yeah I was just being stubborn :D

L644[13:06:43] <Shambling> I'll see if I can do it your way now, I just figured, there had to be a way to do it... but I guess when mojang wants hard coded shit code, they really mean it

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L646[13:09:48] <Shambling> alright, I know I disabled notifications for google chrome

L647[13:09:49] <Shambling> that's great

L648[13:09:57] <Jaymoe> thx alot TechnicianLP =) !

L649[13:11:44] <Jaymoe> Anyone have any tips or a git to look at to get better at setting up base/helper classes?

L650[13:11:52] <Jaymoe> is cofh good coding standard =) ?

L651[13:14:33] <IoP> I was going to say that my mod has not flaws. Then I remember that I have not released source code :/

L652[13:15:07] <Jaymoe> xD

L653[13:16:10] <IoP> oh I have one version in gist https://gist.github.com/jikuja/ac752dab8ac328bb192e5ad12bf80a66 there

L654[13:17:12] <Jaymoe> its 1 file xD ?

L655[13:18:04] <TechnicianLP> is there something special i have to do to be able to make an element in my model have a transparent texture? transperency is replaced with black somehow

L656[13:20:38] <IoP> Jaymoe: yup. But I have also tweaker version which supports more MC versions ;)

L657[13:20:56] <Jaymoe> I dont think we are thinking about the same thing here ^^

L658[13:21:14] <Jaymoe> I wanna get better at setting up classes for ex, baseBlockClass, baseTEclass etc

L659[13:21:20] <Jaymoe> so i dont have to write the same code 100 times

L660[13:21:39] <Jaymoe> have a good foundation for my modding

L661[13:22:00] <TechnicianLP> that interface is a contract with the devil ...

L662[13:23:22] <IoP> Jaymoe: New TiC? (it was fully rewritten) Vazkii has libraries for things block creation afaik

L663[13:23:59] <Jaymoe> ill have a look there =)

L664[13:25:20] <IoP> If you decide to use Vazkii's libraries check the license. At least I don't know which floss licenses(if any) are compatible with botania license requirements

L665[13:25:33] <Jaymoe> nah i wanna make my own

L666[13:29:08] <TechnicianLP> how can i make the glass part transparent?:http://i.imgur.com/n9QgEN5.png

L667[13:30:55] <Jaymoe> is it a texture problem or a code problem?

L668[13:31:27] <TechnicianLP> i dont know ... i just put a quad into my json file iwth the minecraft-glass texture

L669[13:31:28] <tterrag> use CUTOUT layer

L670[13:31:41] <tterrag> normal layer doesn't support transparency

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L672[13:32:00] <ScottehBoeh> Spinning water wheel :D

L673[13:32:01] <ScottehBoeh> http://i.imgur.com/WbTLL2a.png

L674[13:32:20] <tterrag> doesn't look like it's spinning

L675[13:33:27] * TechnicianLP rotates the jpg to make it spin

L676[13:33:52] <Jaymoe> xD

L677[13:34:45] <Ashindigo_> is there a way for a packet to send an int array?

L678[13:34:54] <Ashindigo_> or do i need to send each packet individually

L679[13:35:00] <McJty> What?

L680[13:35:05] <McJty> You can send what you want in a packet

L681[13:35:11] <McJty> Just fill it into the ByteBuf

L682[13:35:32] <TechnicianLP> take a look at ByteBufHelper

L683[13:35:37] <ScottehBoeh> I think what he means is there a ByteBuf method of storing int arrays

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L685[13:37:50] <Ashindigo_> ByteBufHelper doesnt exist according to eclipse

L686[13:37:56] <kashike> net.minecraftforge.fml.common.network.ByteBufUtils

L687[13:38:06] <kashike> though it does not have a method to write an int array

L688[13:38:34] <kashike> net.minecraft.network.PacketBuffer does, however, have methods to work with varint arrays

L689[13:39:00] <McJty> Writing an array is easily done by writing the size followed by a loop

L690[13:39:11] <kashike> yep

L691[13:40:43] <Jaymoe> aaaaaah brain malfunction

L692[13:40:50] <TechnicianLP> ok transparency now works when using cutout - any downsides to that?

L693[13:41:11] <Jaymoe> no cutout is basically what u have to do to have transparency in textures, like glass.

L694[13:41:24] <Jaymoe> the "downside" would be opacity i guess

L695[13:41:35] <Jaymoe> cutout only has fully opaque or fully transparent

L696[13:43:36] <Jaymoe> When i place my tileentity, it will "create a party" inside the tileentity, and store the placer as leader/owner.

L697[13:44:00] <Jaymoe> But what do i go on about to make it so if the player is already in a party, he cant place the block

L698[13:44:07] <Jaymoe> then i need to store that somewhere else i suppose

L699[13:44:23] <Jaymoe> like a list with uuid's i guess is the best

L700[13:44:30] <TechnicianLP> or a capability

L701[13:44:44] <Jaymoe> Man i really need to learn these capabilitys

L702[13:45:05] <Jaymoe> So if i inject a capability to the tileentity

L703[13:45:12] <Jaymoe> that can have a list with ALL partys existing?

L704[13:45:36] <TechnicianLP> put it on the player with a referenceto his party?

L705[13:47:56] <Jaymoe> so like nbttagcompound tag = entityplayer.getentitydata()?

L706[13:48:15] <Jaymoe> can player A then remove from player B's nbt?

L707[13:48:18] <Jaymoe> if player B is offline

L708[13:48:19] <TechnicianLP> nope

L709[13:48:28] <Jaymoe> so the leader wont be able to kick ppl?

L710[13:48:41] <Jaymoe> if u see what i mean

L711[13:48:55] <TechnicianLP> no to the getEntityData part

L712[13:49:00] <Jaymoe> oh

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L714[13:49:52] <Jaymoe> im sitting at the capabilitys docs atm

L715[13:50:04] <Jaymoe> but it says theres only 3 capabilities, items fluid and energty

L716[13:50:15] <TechnicianLP> you can create your own one

L717[13:50:22] <TechnicianLP> 3 forgeprovided ones

L718[13:50:33] <Jaymoe> Okey

L719[13:50:45] <Jaymoe> Guess im gonna spend some time reading throught the entire docs there then ^^

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L723[14:06:50] <Jaymoe> Do i register capabilitys in the preinit?

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L729[14:19:51] <BlueMonster> is 1000 a big or small number?

L730[14:19:58] <Ashindigo_> Yes

L731[14:20:07] <BlueMonster> thats what i thought

L732[14:22:49] <heldplayer> Depends what for

L733[14:24:32] <Shambling> hype, astral sorcery is out for 1.11 :D

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L735[14:31:18] <BlueMonster> @mos

L736[14:33:58] <Jaymoe> hm

L737[14:34:10] <Jaymoe> how do i do to have an empty string in java xP ?

L738[14:34:15] <Jaymoe> without getting nullexception

L739[14:34:33] <Jaymoe> maybe just ""

L740[14:35:26] <IoP> Someone with stats... Which group is larger modded players with os x or linux?

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L742[14:44:38] <Ashindigo_> Can't you check on forge mercious

L743[14:44:42] <Ashindigo_> (Or however you spell it)

L744[14:51:19] <IoP> hmm also someone derped certs https://www.minecraftforge.net/

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L748[15:02:34] <blupilot> can someone point me towards a custom liquid tutorial?

L749[15:02:53] <blupilot> (1.10.2)

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L753[15:18:27] <Intektor> does someone have wolfram alpha pro?

L754[15:18:53] <Jaymoe> hm

L755[15:19:06] <Jaymoe> been trying to add my own capability now but i just get nullexception as soon as i try to use them

L756[15:19:23] <williewillus> show code

L757[15:19:32] <ghz|afk> Intektor: maybe there's some maths channel in espernet or some other IRC network

L758[15:19:35] <ghz|afk> maybe someone is bored ;P

L759[15:19:47] <Intektor> I got it down to one small equation

L760[15:20:03] <Intektor> by doing it on paper

L761[15:21:22] <Jaymoe> https://github.com/TheJaymoe/Towns/tree/master/src/main/java/com/thejaymoe/towns/capability

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L763[15:22:09] <Jaymoe> the get method throws nullexceptions.

L764[15:22:22] <williewillus> which get method?

L765[15:22:31] <Jaymoe> getMana

L766[15:22:54] <williewillus> are you registering your cap?

L767[15:23:09] <Jaymoe> CapabilityManager.INSTANCE.register(IMana.class, new ManaStorage(), Mana.class);

L768[15:23:14] <Jaymoe> in init

L769[15:23:21] <ghz|afk> init sounds like WAY too late

L770[15:23:25] <williewillus> no that's fine

L771[15:23:38] <williewillus> did you register the class that is listening to AttachCapEvent?

L772[15:23:41] <ghz|afk> i mean, it shouldn't matter, so long as anyone using the cap does it after

L773[15:24:08] <williewillus> this event isnt running https://github.com/TheJaymoe/Towns/blob/master/src/main/java/com/thejaymoe/towns/capability/CapabilityHandler.java#L22

L774[15:24:10] <ghz|afk> wait brainfart

L775[15:24:16] <ghz|afk> I was somehow thinking of registries, not caps

L776[15:24:19] <Jaymoe> oh

L777[15:24:25] <Jaymoe> derp

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L779[15:24:40] <williewillus> also no need to register things to the fml bus it's the same thing as the forge one

L780[15:24:41] <Jaymoe> sometimes u need a second pair of eyes :D

L781[15:24:43] <williewillus> as in same instance

L782[15:24:46] <Jaymoe> ok

L783[15:25:58] <Jaymoe> it still says in idea tho that it MIGHT throw nullexception

L784[15:26:00] <Jaymoe> but gonna truy

L785[15:26:19] <Jaymoe> ye it works

L786[15:26:20] <Jaymoe> thanks!

L787[15:26:55] <kashike> that moment you hit the wrong button..

L788[15:27:09] <kashike> https://gist.github.com/kashike/22f78eb8ecc08c8ed40bfdb63d2e0745

L789[15:27:31] <williewillus> wat

L790[15:27:31] <Jaymoe> wtf xd

L791[15:27:52] <Jaymoe> thats some nice indents ;D

L792[15:27:59] <quadraxis> my favourite is the 'return false' alone in the bottom left corner

L793[15:28:06] <Jaymoe> haha

L794[15:28:24] <kashike> original version added to bottom of gist, refresh :P

L795[15:28:38] <kashike> I love the end of that line

L796[15:28:42] <TechnicianLP> inverting the ifs would be less idented

L797[15:28:47] <kashike> ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))));

L798[15:29:37] <quadraxis> ~6400 chars long

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L802[15:31:58] <kashike> much better https://gist.github.com/kashike/1c9ed542fe93e54f5171dbddfc9e1aa6

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L804[15:57:05] <Intektor> ghz|afk, it looks like even when you have pro the time is not enough

L805[15:57:17] <ghz|afk> welp

L806[15:57:29] <ghz|afk> that should tell you how deep the rabbit hole goes

L807[15:57:38] <ghz|afk> I believe you should consider changing tactics

L808[15:57:47] <ghz|afk> rather than an instant-aim

L809[15:57:54] <ghz|afk> why not make progressive approximations?

L810[15:58:11] <TechnicianLP> homing missiles?

L811[15:58:21] <ghz|afk> you can start with a perfect parabola

L812[15:58:27] <ghz|afk> without taking into account drag

L813[15:58:28] <Intektor> I did that

L814[15:58:31] <ghz|afk> then each tick

L815[15:58:32] <Intektor> already

L816[15:58:37] <ghz|afk> you correct the value

L817[15:58:39] <Intektor> I write an algorithm

L818[15:58:39] <ghz|afk> until it's close enough

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L820[15:58:45] <Intektor> wrote

L821[15:58:55] <Intektor> the probelm is that it didn't quite work out

L822[15:59:08] <ghz|afk> how so?

L823[15:59:33] <Intektor> I even wrote a little programm for it, that did it graphically, and there it worked fine, but in minecraft it didn't

L824[15:59:39] <Intektor> I checked everything

L825[15:59:44] <Intektor> but something was wring

L826[15:59:46] <Intektor> wrong

L827[16:00:53] <ghz|afk> well if applying the original formulas iteratively

L828[16:00:55] <ghz|afk> gives wrong results

L829[16:01:06] <ghz|afk> i'm not sure that the equations we were trying to solve would

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L831[16:11:29] <masa> forge has support for static method event handlers these days, right? is there anything special about using them?

L832[16:11:54] <masa> I think I tried to use them once at some point, but they wouldn't work for me...

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L834[16:12:27] <ghz|afk> nope nothing special

L835[16:12:29] <TechnicianLP> annotate the class with EventBusSubscriber and make the eventhandlermethods static

L836[16:12:48] <ghz|afk> static methods are registered with TheClass.class or the @Mod.EventBusSubscriber annotation

L837[16:12:52] <ghz|afk> that's all.

L838[16:13:08] <masa> oh okay so the annotation is different

L839[16:13:19] <TechnicianLP> that goes on the class

L840[16:13:27] <ghz|afk> nono

L841[16:13:31] <ghz|afk> the annotation goes on the class

L842[16:13:36] <ghz|afk> it's still @SubscribeEvent on the method

L843[16:13:40] <masa> oh

L844[16:14:13] <ghz|afk> @Mod.EventBusSubscriber is just a replacement for caling

L845[16:14:23] <ghz|afk> MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.register(TheClass.class) in the constructor

L846[16:14:27] <ghz|afk> calling*

L847[16:14:31] <masa> okay

L848[16:14:48] <TechnicianLP> the EventBusSubscriber annotation has usefull parameters as well ...

L849[16:14:57] <ghz|afk> also has an optional side parameter

L850[16:15:08] <ghz|afk> which lets you only reference (and load) the class client-side

L851[16:15:22] <ghz|afk> so that it can be used for ModelRegistryEvent and other client-only events

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L854[16:23:44] <Intektor> ghz|afk, I made you formulas run through my programm, well, look at it youself: http://i.imgur.com/xIa2vz1.png https://gist.github.com/Intektor/ec5dc8e64b48638b626fffd5ba12746c

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L857[16:40:19] <Ashindigo_> Ok

L858[16:40:28] <TechnicianLP2> i firgot the /

L859[16:40:43] <Ashindigo_> ;)

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L896[17:16:43] <Shambling> hrmmm well biomes o plenty does a reflection helper of its own... that they never use anywhere

L897[17:16:55] <Shambling> well they might use it, but github search is so bad you'll never find out D:

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L900[17:29:45] <HassanS6000> !gm func_184888_a 1.10.2

L901[17:29:55] <HassanS6000> !gm func_184881_a 1.10.2

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L921[18:40:54] <Shambling> what is the phoenix fire buff in minecraft?

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L923[18:41:40] <ghz|afk> the what? XD

L924[18:42:04] <Akkarin> Clearly it's the stuff if you manage to kill a phoenix in Minecraft

L925[18:42:07] <Akkarin> ... wait

L926[18:42:25] <Shambling> I might have died to lightning while afk

L927[18:42:32] <Shambling> that is the only thing I can really think of

L928[18:42:53] <Shambling> I was in my inventory went afk, came back and had a buff text that says "phoenix-fire"

L929[18:42:59] <Shambling> and google doesn't give anything useful

L930[18:43:09] <Corosus> as in like a potion effect?

L931[18:43:35] <Shambling> yes

L932[18:43:42] <Shambling> I have a status effect that says phoenix-fire

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L934[18:43:46] <Shambling> and its infinite duration

L935[18:43:58] <Shambling> I wonder if it was from murdering things in roots

L936[18:44:01] <Lymia> Vanilla?

L937[18:44:04] <Shambling> ... I needed the leather :( and there are no cows

L938[18:44:09] <Shambling> nah 1.11.2 modpack I'm making

L939[18:44:20] <Shambling> I need to make a greenhouse, as I keep getting hit by lightning by my crops

L940[18:44:22] <Lymia> Decompiler + grep time

L941[18:44:32] <Shambling> dear god that would take a long time, lol

L942[18:44:43] <Lymia> You can also just grep .class files.

L943[18:45:02] <Akkarin> find *.jar | xargs string | grep?

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L945[18:45:09] <Shambling> I'll look at roots github first

L946[18:45:10] <Akkarin> s/string/strings

L947[18:45:14] <Lymia> Nah, you have to unpack the jars.

L948[18:45:15] <Shambling> I'm assuming its from roots or astral sorcery

L949[18:45:25] <Lymia> And string isn't needed, grep works on binary data.

L950[18:45:32] <Shambling> because I'm sure plenty of people die to lightnikng while afk thanks to psi

L951[18:45:43] <Lymia> Probably no mod authors who do string obfusication. If there are, that explains why FTB is so slow at times.

L952[18:46:18] <Shambling> :D

L953[18:47:05] <Shambling> awww it doesn't persist through relog

L954[18:47:08] <Shambling> oh well, lol

L955[18:47:13] <Akkarin> you don't need to unpack jars btw. By default they're not compressed :P

L956[18:47:43] <Corosus> yeah i cant find a single result for that effect

L957[18:47:53] <Corosus> must be super new

L958[18:50:31] <Shambling> man watering cans with my mod and no root makes life risky

L959[18:50:54] <Shambling> is grep part of the bash package in windows?

L960[18:52:05] <Shambling> err roof, not root

L961[18:54:19] <Lymia> Akkarin, ... really?

L962[18:54:41] <Lymia> They're .zip files, and everything I've seen indicates they are zipped under normal settings

L963[18:55:37] <Akkarin> ZIP does not imply compression

L964[18:55:56] <Akkarin> maven's archiver afaik chooses compression by default but even then grep seems to have no problem with it

L965[18:56:00] <Lymia> They have a store mode, yes.

L966[18:56:20] <Lymia> Nothing I'm aware of suggests .jar uses it by default because there's no design reason to.

L967[18:56:33] <Akkarin> Actually there is. Speed

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L969[18:56:38] <Lymia> It's 2017.

L970[18:56:43] <Akkarin> Load times increase when compression is active

L971[18:56:47] <Akkarin> oh go away with that shit argument

L972[18:56:50] <Lymia> And gzip has nearly 0 cost

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L974[18:57:05] <Lymia> And loading binaries is a 1 time cost during the runtime of a program.

L975[18:57:31] <Lymia> .zip is a bad compression format in a sense, since it doesn't make any effort to reduce redundancies between files, as a result, much stuff goes by uncompressed.

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L977[18:57:39] <Lymia> It's not reliable to grep zips, however

L978[18:57:53] <Akkarin> Java was designed quite a while ago and going by the "things are fast enough" argument is kind of stupid since that's how you get all the RAM and processor eaters you are probably currently running

L979[18:58:19] <Akkarin> do you know how Java loads classes? It's not one time

L980[18:58:39] <Lymia> ... yes? What causes Java to reload a class in normal operation

L981[18:58:42] <Akkarin> Classes are loaded as they are encountered. aka it may actually occur that something needs to be loaded hours into program runtime

L982[18:58:54] <Akkarin> Reloading may also occur when nothing strong references a class anymore

L983[18:58:55] <Lymia> Let me rephrase, once *per class*

L984[18:58:58] <Akkarin> aka no instances, no fields

L985[18:59:36] <Shambling> can things "canseesky" through glass?

L986[18:59:37] <Akkarin> even though current implementations shouldn't do that since the class loader should hold a reference as well

L987[18:59:43] <Lymia> OK, one thing I'm not sure on is if static references in a class would keep a class from being unloaded.

L988[18:59:53] <Akkarin> ?

L989[19:00:18] <Akkarin> a field is a field is a field. If a class references itself it is not considered a strong reference

L990[19:00:35] <ghz|afk> or any disconnected sub-graph

L991[19:00:39] <Lymia> If an invokestatic/invokevirtual instruction from a referenced class can keep something referenced.

L992[19:01:01] <Akkarin> Well another exception would be Enums in Java 6 and earlier since they are strong referenced by the Enum type if I recall correctly

L993[19:01:11] <ghz|afk> I don't know exactly how jvm works

L994[19:01:15] <ghz|afk> but for something to NOT be unloaded

L995[19:01:34] <ghz|afk> has to be referenced by something that is referenced by a thing that can't be unloaded

L996[19:01:36] <Lymia> Either way, I highly doubt gzip compression will be any significant cost during the runtime of a program.

L997[19:02:14] <Akkarin> ghz|afk: Well classes are a bit different. I don't recall anything being in the spec regarding the unloading of classes

L998[19:02:15] <ghz|afk> what are you doing, though?

L999[19:02:17] <Lymia> If you can find me an uncompressed .jar on Maven for a major project, I'll reconsider things.

L1000[19:02:42] <Akkarin> Why not research yourself? ;-)

L1001[19:02:43] <ghz|afk> Akkarin: wait you mean the actual class metadata?

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L1003[19:02:51] <Akkarin> the actual class structure. yes.

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L1005[19:02:55] <ghz|afk> ahh

L1006[19:03:04] <ghz|afk> I wasn't aware java would ever unload them ;P

L1007[19:03:10] <Akkarin> Generally in the current implementation: Toss the loader, toss everything else

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L1009[19:03:55] <Akkarin> given the standard conditions for GC of course

L1010[19:04:44] <Shambling> rats, blocks can see sky through glass

L1011[19:04:52] <Shambling> I thought glass counted against it, as it wasn't air :D

L1012[19:05:42] <ghz|afk> uhm no

L1013[19:05:55] <ghz|afk> otherwise beacons wouldn't work

L1014[19:05:56] <ghz|afk> XD

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L1016[19:07:24] <Akkarin> as if Mojang logic was real logic!

L1017[19:07:25] * Akkarin runs

L1018[19:08:05] <Lymia> Akkarin, I did.

L1019[19:08:19] <Lymia> I found no uncompressed .jars in either my .m2 or .ivy caches.

L1020[19:08:30] <Lymia> So can you prove your claim now? :)

L1021[19:08:35] <Akkarin> [01:55:56] <Akkarin> maven's archiver afaik chooses compression by default but even then grep seems to have no problem with it

L1022[19:08:39] <Akkarin> *claps*

L1023[19:09:04] <Lymia> You're almost certainly missing some instances of the strings.

L1024[19:09:18] <Lymia> Because of how .zip uses gz, some parts of the uncompressed data is accessible to grep.

L1025[19:09:19] <ghz|afk> wtf are you people doing?

L1026[19:09:22] <Lymia> This is not a guarentee.

L1027[19:09:28] <Lymia> Don't rely on it.

L1028[19:09:31] <Akkarin> gosh would you please just read the first part of that sentence

L1029[19:09:32] <Akkarin> ffs

L1030[19:09:41] <Shambling> ghz, true. Just found out my brilliant idea of makign a greenhouse to block out canseesky didn't work

L1031[19:09:46] <Shambling> so I put wood over the top of the glass

L1032[19:09:51] <Shambling> not getting hit by lightning anymore :P

L1033[19:10:11] <Shambling> few more tweaks, finish that mod to actually have real configs, and I think I might release this modpack

L1034[19:10:20] <Shambling> then mojang will release 1.12 and no one will ever play 1.11.2 again :P

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L1036[19:10:58] <ghz|afk> given that most modpacks are happening on 1.10.2 and not 1.11

L1037[19:11:03] <ghz|afk> that may be true.

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L1047[19:55:12] <DiscworldZA> any1 around that can help me understand presisted nbt data?

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L1050[20:06:27] <williewillus> anyone know what the convention is in python if you don't need elements of a tuple? :P

L1051[20:06:37] <williewillus> is _, _, baz = (1, 2, 3) fine

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L1053[20:09:23] <Lymia> There's no way to actually discard the values, I don't think

L1054[20:09:27] <Lymia> _ will be stored in the locals

L1055[20:09:28] <blupilot> Hey, how would I go about making custom liquids?

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L1059[20:31:41] <DiscworldZA> williewillus was it you telling me to use getEntityData() rather than capabilities to save a string for a EntityPlayer?

L1060[20:31:54] <williewillus> ?\

L1061[20:32:10] <williewillus> context?

L1062[20:32:25] <DiscworldZA> trying to save an Id to a EntityPlayer

L1063[20:34:19] <williewillus> i think that was someone else, but yeah for just 1 string might as well just use getEntityData instead of having to make boilerplate for a cap

L1064[20:34:32] <williewillus> if you might need more data in the future maybe you could invest in a cap :P

L1065[20:35:00] <DiscworldZA> problem is even using PRESISTED_NBT_TAG its not presisting between login and logoff

L1066[20:35:06] <williewillus> huh

L1067[20:35:20] <williewillus> are you accidentally applying it clientside?

L1068[20:35:32] <DiscworldZA> no server side only

L1069[20:35:55] <DiscworldZA> Server should sync it to client right?

L1070[20:35:59] <williewillus> yes

L1071[20:36:15] <DiscworldZA> mmhmm i tested it and it was server side but it wasnt synced to clientside

L1072[20:36:27] <williewillus> actually, maybe not

L1073[20:36:31] <DiscworldZA> i need to cancel an event both sides

L1074[20:36:37] <williewillus> as in it might not sync automatically

L1075[20:37:28] <DiscworldZA> i managed to create capability now

L1076[20:37:35] <DiscworldZA> but for some reason its not attaching

L1077[20:37:39] <williewillus> how so?

L1078[20:37:45] <williewillus> make sure the event handler is actually running

L1079[20:37:52] <williewillus> also with cpas you still need to sync it yourself

L1080[20:38:09] <DiscworldZA> Eventhandler is registered to EventBus (confirmed)

L1081[20:38:48] <DiscworldZA> correct > http://pastebin.com/wASpWzC ?

L1082[20:38:58] <williewillus> broken link

L1083[20:39:09] <DiscworldZA> http://pastebin.com/wASpWzCU

L1084[20:39:46] <williewillus> hm

L1085[20:39:50] <williewillus> how is it not working?

L1086[20:39:53] <williewillus> getCap returns null?

L1087[20:40:08] <williewillus> show your ICapabilityProvider

L1088[20:40:13] <DiscworldZA> yes and also its not attaching never gets called event.addCapability

L1089[20:40:22] <williewillus> 0.o

L1090[20:40:35] <williewillus> you're sure this method gets called? lol

L1091[20:40:46] <DiscworldZA> ICapProv http://pastebin.com/SUiD6Z3y

L1092[20:41:13] <DiscworldZA> NVM

L1093[20:41:24] <DiscworldZA> i made the Event Method static XD

L1094[20:41:29] <williewillus> lol

L1095[20:41:40] <williewillus> you can have static evthandlers

L1096[20:41:47] <williewillus> just have to register the class to the bus instead of an instance

L1097[20:41:49] <blupilot> Sorry for the noob question, but how would I make my own fluid?

L1098[20:42:10] <williewillus> no experience there, sorry - maybe check out some other mods on github

L1099[20:42:13] <williewillus> like EIO or forestry

L1100[20:42:22] <blupilot> alright, thanks :P

L1101[20:44:23] <DiscworldZA> blupilot maybe https://www.reddit.com/r/ModdingMC/comments/35kiwu/fluid_rendering_18_forge/ ?

L1102[20:44:47] <blupilot> sweet, I'll check it out, thanks!

L1103[20:44:49] <DiscworldZA> or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTEUg6VzArw

L1104[20:45:22] <williewillus> i would be wary of tutorials

L1105[20:45:26] <williewillus> especially old ones

L1106[20:45:31] <williewillus> that video is 4 years old

L1107[20:45:40] <blupilot> ah, yeah the video is 2013

L1108[20:46:06] <DiscworldZA> eh...didnt check the version...since i google 1.8 + XD

L1109[20:46:31] <blupilot> 1.8 code should help even with my 1.10 mod?

L1110[20:46:45] <williewillus> it might've changed so 1.8 is iffy

L1111[20:46:47] <DiscworldZA> shouldnt be too much changes AFAIK

L1112[20:46:48] <williewillus> that video is 1.6 lol

L1113[20:46:53] <DiscworldZA> 1.6 so old XD

L1114[20:47:08] <DiscworldZA> williewillus so i need to sync the Cap using my own Network?

L1115[20:47:23] <williewillus> use the SimpleImpl system but yes you need to sync it yhourself

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L1117[20:48:26] <DiscworldZA> i have core code for SimpleNetworkWrapper can i use that? also i should call the getCap.Setvalue method in the onMessage?

L1118[20:49:03] <williewillus> you can design that as you want

L1119[20:49:17] <DiscworldZA> but the Cap would be attached Clientside?

L1120[20:49:30] <williewillus> if you want to access the data in it clientside, yes

L1121[20:55:38] <DiscworldZA> so when do i sync? when i set the values?

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L1128[21:01:04] <CSxKING> o/

L1129[21:01:22] <DiscworldZA> williewillus how do i get the EntityPlayer the Packet was sent to?

L1130[21:01:37] <williewillus> on the client it's always *the* client player

L1131[21:01:52] <williewillus> EntityPlayerSP field inside Minecraft object

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L1133[21:02:15] <williewillus> for client -> server packets it's something like messagecontext.getServerHandler().playerEntity or something

L1134[21:02:28] <DiscworldZA> event ClientSide?

L1135[21:02:30] <DiscworldZA> eve*

L1136[21:02:32] <DiscworldZA> even*

L1137[21:02:40] <CSxKING> I've got a bit of an error, was hoping someone here might be able to help. latest.log and fml-latest logs here: latest.log: https://paste.csxking.me/zefonaduha fml-client-latest.log: https://paste.csxking.me/duzuyatogu

L1138[21:02:47] <williewillus> no for clientside there's only one player object :P

L1139[21:03:01] <williewillus> Minecraft.getMinecraft().thePlayer (or just player if you have new mappings)

L1140[21:03:34] <williewillus> CSxKING: trying to run a 1.7- mod on 1.11.2

L1141[21:04:06] <CSxKING> Alright. Guy has different mods then me and refuses to irc, any ideas as to which mod it is (as i'm blind)

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L1143[21:04:53] <williewillus> micdoodlecore is the last mod mentioned before the crash

L1144[21:05:06] <williewillus> idk if that or galcticraft is on 1.11 yet but I doubt it

L1145[21:05:10] <CSxKING> Yeah I see that now

L1146[21:05:14] <CSxKING> I feel kinda stupid now ;p

L1147[21:06:06] <williewillus> no need :P the crash exception tipped me off, the mod expects some code to be there that got moved elsewhere in 1.8

L1148[21:06:27] <DiscworldZA> williewillus wheres the best place to send the packet from?

L1149[21:06:33] <williewillus> what do yuo mean?

L1150[21:06:38] <williewillus> the server ;p

L1151[21:06:47] <DiscworldZA> i meant code wise XD

L1152[21:07:35] <blupilot> Since I have tinkers' as a dependency, can't I just make a new "Molten" fluid from that? Or should I just make my own fluid class

L1153[21:07:58] <williewillus> depends, that might be internal to tico

L1154[21:08:18] <blupilot> Hmmm

L1155[21:08:35] <kashike> DiscworldZA: we can't answer that. you should send it when you need to.

L1156[21:08:51] <blupilot> I mean the fluids I'm trying to make are gonna be molten metals anyway

L1157[21:09:33] <williewillus> not familiar with tico's api but does it have something you can just call to register molten metals?

L1158[21:09:41] <williewillus> and tico does all the behind the scenes for you?

L1159[21:09:59] <blupilot> Errr, I can look for something like that real quick

L1160[21:10:36] <DiscworldZA> kashike problem is SimpleNetworkWrapper only sends to EntityPlayerMP ? will that work on SinglePlayer also/.

L1161[21:11:17] <williewillus> yes

L1162[21:11:24] <williewillus> single palyer is just a server

L1163[21:11:27] <williewillus> with one player logged in

L1164[21:11:32] <williewillus> there's still a distinct client and server side

L1165[21:16:36] <blupilot> lol i love the comments in some of these: https://github.com/SlimeKnights/TinkersConstruct/blob/25a03943276b131e4dcbc74907c887491de343a8/src/main/java/slimeknights/tconstruct/library/fluid/FluidMolten.java

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L1167[21:16:58] <williewillus> lol

L1168[21:17:09] <williewillus> its cute but I'd personally get annoyed by fluff in the codebase

L1169[21:17:16] <blupilot> ah

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L1171[21:18:19] <blupilot> but yeah, so I would just make a new FluidMolten from this class, correct?

L1172[21:19:56] <blupilot> sweet, got it

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L1175[21:28:18] <DiscworldZA> kashike does caps presist between worlds?

L1176[21:28:22] <DiscworldZA> and death?

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L1178[21:30:26] <DiscworldZA> williewillus does caps presist death and worlds?

L1179[21:30:47] <williewillus> yes

L1180[21:30:59] <williewillus> actually wait not death

L1181[21:31:00] <DiscworldZA> nice

L1182[21:31:03] <DiscworldZA> ugh

L1183[21:31:08] <williewillus> i actually dont remember lol lemme look

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L1185[21:31:34] <williewillus> DiscworldZA: https://github.com/sinkillerj/ProjectE/blob/master/src/main/java/moze_intel/projecte/events/PlayerEvents.java#L46-L54

L1186[21:32:18] <sinkillerj> o/ (I get a ping ever time willie references ProjectE lol)

L1187[21:33:58] <DiscworldZA> sinkillerj do i have to copy caps between dims and sync on death and respawn and clone?

L1188[21:34:20] <williewillus> the thing I linked says yes

L1189[21:34:29] <DiscworldZA> ok

L1190[21:34:48] <sinkillerj> The issue that always seams to creep back for us lol

L1191[21:40:59] <DiscworldZA> sinkillerj where is your implementation of the serializeNBT and deserializeNBT ?

L1192[21:41:08] <williewillus> you want to be asking me these questions lol

L1193[21:41:19] <DiscworldZA> ^ :P

L1194[21:42:35] <williewillus> I made the capability interface extend INBtSerializable

L1195[21:42:41] <sinkillerj> I just work here man

L1196[21:42:52] <williewillus> then just implement it as appropriate for your cap instance :P

L1197[21:43:14] <williewillus> and then I had the provider's serializae/deserialize defer to it

L1198[21:43:52] <sinkillerj> But yea im just here for the lulz, I'm behind on caps honestly

L1199[21:48:11] <DiscworldZA> williewillus http://pastebin.com/vDcZn8sc ?

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L1202[21:48:35] <williewillus> woops

L1203[21:48:38] <DiscworldZA> lol

L1204[21:48:41] <williewillus> what am I looking at?

L1205[21:48:56] <DiscworldZA> INBTSerializable<NBTTagCompound> implementation

L1206[21:49:04] <williewillus> looks fine

L1207[21:49:24] <DiscworldZA> XD still this is alot of code for one simple string XD

L1208[21:49:30] <DiscworldZA> hopefully i use it for more later

L1209[21:49:39] <williewillus> i mean you could just use the persisted tag and sync it yourself

L1210[21:50:21] <DiscworldZA> true but atleast now i went through the exersize

L1211[21:50:39] <DiscworldZA> exercise *

L1212[21:52:06] <DiscworldZA> Q: when i have a model.json for a block..it doesnt have to be tile.blockname.name.json right? just blockname.json

L1213[21:52:35] <DiscworldZA> well registryname.json

L1214[21:52:36] <williewillus> it's the registry name of the block

L1215[21:52:48] <DiscworldZA> yeah then idk why my models arent loading XD

L1216[21:53:20] <williewillus> usually the log tells you :P

L1217[21:54:55] <DiscworldZA> log > http://pastebin.com/RExiA1pB please help XD

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L1219[21:55:17] <williewillus> show your json

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L1221[21:56:25] <DiscworldZA> one of em http://pastebin.com/D1Rpf5zg

L1222[21:57:27] <williewillus> is that the blacksmith block?

L1223[21:57:32] <DiscworldZA> faction

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L1225[21:57:38] <williewillus> wat

L1226[21:57:44] <DiscworldZA> factions:faction

L1227[21:57:56] <williewillus> well your faction block has directional properties

L1228[21:58:07] <williewillus> but your blockstate json only defines a "normal" variant

L1229[21:58:25] <williewillus> Exception loading model for variant factions:faction#direction=south for blockstate

L1230[21:58:30] <williewillus> "factions:faction[direction=south]"

L1231[21:59:18] <williewillus> what that means is "I see a blockstate for block faction, has a property direction with value south. I'll now look inside blockstates/faction.json for a variant 'direction=south' for the model"

L1232[21:59:28] <DiscworldZA> due to implements ITileEntityProvider ?

L1233[21:59:33] <williewillus> wut

L1234[21:59:41] <williewillus> 1. that's completely unrealted, 2. don't use ITEP

L1235[22:00:00] <DiscworldZA> why does it define directional properties?

L1236[22:00:24] <DiscworldZA> 2. why not use that?

L1237[22:00:34] <williewillus> okay read this :P https://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blockstates/states/

L1238[22:00:37] <williewillus> for 1

L1239[22:00:48] <williewillus> and for 2 because you should just override the methods on Block, ITEP is legacy stuff

L1240[22:03:27] <DiscworldZA> 2. thats what i get from porting my core mod from 1.7.10

L1241[22:03:55] <williewillus> always try to modernize when porting :P

L1242[22:04:06] <williewillus> though some stuff is hard to know about

L1243[22:04:08] * DiscworldZA didnt know that changed...

L1244[22:04:20] <williewillus> i'm pretty sure the override in block was already in 1.7

L1245[22:04:21] <williewillus> :P

L1246[22:04:29] <DiscworldZA> serious??

L1247[22:04:32] <DiscworldZA> wow...

L1248[22:04:37] <williewillus> anyways i think you need to read about blockstates

L1249[22:04:46] <williewillus> since you didn't know what I was talking about with the direction prop

L1250[22:04:47] <DiscworldZA> most tutorials still followed that ITEP way

L1251[22:04:49] <williewillus> so read the article

L1252[22:04:52] <DiscworldZA> busy :P

L1253[22:05:02] <williewillus> as I say most tutorials are 1. outdated 2. wrong 3. both

L1254[22:05:10] <williewillus> :P

L1255[22:05:26] <williewillus> usually better served by asking here or looking at a modern maintained mod on gh

L1256[22:06:06] <DiscworldZA> williewillus that is why i have been on here for the past week

L1257[22:08:22] <DiscworldZA> so i guess this is legacy aswell? http://pastebin.com/RrjBPCKS

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L1259[22:10:41] <DiscworldZA> wait no : Note that in 1.9 and above, the BlockState class has been renamed to BlockStateContainer, more in line with what this class actually does.

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L1261[22:14:40] <DiscworldZA> ok so according to that article the implementation of the Block class is fine..

L1262[22:15:06] <DiscworldZA> what i need to do though is specify the states of each side for those blocks in the model.json?

L1263[22:16:32] <DiscworldZA> williewillus when i was porting from 1.7.10 i read about blockstates and the implementation...however i never understood the model.json <--> BlockState interaction

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L1267[22:26:52] <williewillus> okay the idea is: IBlockState --IStateMapper--> ModelResourceLocation (mrl, or modid:name#variant). an mrl simply points to blockstates/name.json, selecting variant `variant` inside it. that variant then specifies what the model is

L1268[22:27:05] <williewillus> so the default statemapper just turns all the blockstate properties into a string

L1269[22:27:50] <DiscworldZA> wait so the path to the model.json is assets.modid.models.blockstates?

L1270[22:27:56] <williewillus> no

L1271[22:27:59] <williewillus> blockstate json != model json

L1272[22:28:18] <DiscworldZA> oh

L1273[22:28:25] <DiscworldZA> so i need both?

L1274[22:28:31] <williewillus> so for factions:faction[direction=east] it looks for an MRL factions:faction#direction=east which means "look in blockstates/faction.json for a variant called 'direction=east' which will then continue to specify a model"

L1275[22:28:35] <williewillus> not if you're using forge blockstate jsons

L1276[22:28:37] <williewillus> which you are

L1277[22:28:45] <williewillus> your model json is a vanilla one :P

L1278[22:29:00] <williewillus> your model json is what you put in "model": in the blockstate json

L1279[22:29:27] <DiscworldZA> so blockstate.json is in assets.modid.blockstates? or assets.modid.models.blockstates ?

L1280[22:29:32] <williewillus> first one

L1281[22:30:06] <DiscworldZA> Ok why does factions

L1282[22:30:28] <DiscworldZA> Ok why does factions:faction do the direction but not the others? they extend from the same class?

L1283[22:30:34] <williewillus> what do you mean others

L1284[22:30:41] <DiscworldZA> blacksmith/house

L1285[22:30:54] <williewillus> did you not register it as a blockstate property?

L1286[22:31:03] <williewillus> createBlockState() in the block class

L1287[22:31:44] <DiscworldZA> implementation of CoreTileEntityBlock http://pastebin.com/9Qq4RcNA

L1288[22:32:05] <williewillus> i don't understand what you mean by blacksmith/house

L1289[22:32:13] <williewillus> blockstates haev nothing to do with the type of tile entity it has

L1290[22:32:16] <DiscworldZA> theres two more blocks loading

L1291[22:32:33] <DiscworldZA> protected BlockStateContainer createBlockState()

L1292[22:32:33] <DiscworldZA> {

L1293[22:32:33] <DiscworldZA> return new BlockStateContainer(this, FACING);

L1294[22:32:34] <DiscworldZA> }

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L1296[22:32:43] <williewillus> i don't understand the question/problem :P

L1297[22:32:50] <DiscworldZA> is that correct?

L1298[22:33:04] <williewillus> idk, because idk what you're saying with blacksmith/house

L1299[22:33:11] <williewillus> if there's another block then it'll load in its own blockstate json

L1300[22:33:33] <williewillus> think of states like the replacement for meta

L1301[22:34:11] <DiscworldZA> ok how do i implement the blacksmith#direction=west ?

L1302[22:34:44] <williewillus> specify the variant in the appropriate blockstate json

L1303[22:35:03] <DiscworldZA> example?

L1304[22:35:25] <williewillus> see a vanilla blockstate json

L1305[22:35:30] <williewillus> actually no nvm

L1306[22:35:34] <williewillus> those don't use the forge format :P

L1307[22:35:56] <DiscworldZA> https://github.com/sinkillerj/ProjectE/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/projecte/blockstates/relay_mk1.json < ?

L1308[22:36:09] <williewillus> yes

L1309[22:36:24] <williewillus> what happens there is that forge turns the "facing" block and generates all the proper variants behind the scenes

L1310[22:36:34] <williewillus> so when vanilla goes and looks for facing=north it exists

L1311[22:36:50] <williewillus> *forge takes

L1312[22:38:01] <DiscworldZA> so i need to specify the "direction" variant?

L1313[22:38:10] <williewillus> yes

L1314[22:38:24] <DiscworldZA> and specify what in each direction?

L1315[22:38:34] <williewillus> well that depends on what you want :P

L1316[22:38:42] <DiscworldZA> well for one...textures

L1317[22:38:45] <williewillus> if you just want rotations then it's the same as the relay json you linked

L1318[22:39:11] <williewillus> you can specify any of these inside a variant: https://gist.github.com/RainWarrior/0618131f51b8d37b80a6#file-forge-blockstate-v1-specs-L13-L28

L1319[22:40:27] <DiscworldZA> so > http://pastebin.com/qZqzkynF

L1320[22:40:49] <williewillus> well your property is called "direction"

L1321[22:40:52] <williewillus> not "facing"

L1322[22:41:09] <williewillus> and the formatting's borked because you copy-pasted ;p but otherwise yes

L1323[22:41:38] <DiscworldZA> so if i then specify the textures for the right sides forge will auto rotate them?

L1324[22:41:58] <williewillus> what do you mean

L1325[22:42:14] <DiscworldZA> front texture would face the direction u placed it from?

L1326[22:42:17] <williewillus> you're using cube_all...

L1327[22:42:24] <williewillus> it has the same texture on *all* sides

L1328[22:42:36] <DiscworldZA> well if i where to specify textures for the other sides?

L1329[22:42:39] <DiscworldZA> were*

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L1331[22:43:04] <williewillus> you would use a vanilla model that has a "front" texture and you would set that for each variant

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L1333[22:44:18] <DiscworldZA> so the model the bookcase uses and then using each variant (direction:north, direction:south) you would specify which side to put it? or just specify "front" : texturelocation?

L1334[22:44:56] <williewillus> see which parent model the furnace has

L1335[22:45:03] <williewillus> don't think the bookcase one is right

L1336[22:45:07] <williewillus> since bookcasses don't have facing

L1337[22:45:28] <DiscworldZA> ok ill look at furnaces implementation?

L1338[22:46:03] <williewillus> see which parent model it uses

L1339[22:47:47] <DiscworldZA> Ok, so the model in world loads..but the ItemBlock still needs a Model?

L1340[22:47:57] <DiscworldZA> or a Texture XD

L1341[22:48:19] <williewillus> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(item, meta, MRL)

L1342[22:48:37] <williewillus> you can just give it the north variant or you could make a separate inventory variant

L1343[22:48:44] <williewillus> in the blockstate json

L1344[22:49:50] <DiscworldZA> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(item, meta, new ModelResourceLocation(getModId() + ":" + id, "inventory")); <- looking for inventory variant?

L1345[22:50:12] <williewillus> yes, remember that an MRL is just a blockstate json + a variant inside of it

L1346[22:50:22] <williewillus> and also for the first param to new MRL you can just do item.getRegistryName

L1347[22:50:44] <williewillus> new MRL(item.getRegistryName(), <variant>)

L1348[22:53:23] <DiscworldZA> how do i pass it the north variant?

L1349[22:53:28] <DiscworldZA> "north: ?

L1350[22:53:31] <DiscworldZA> "north"?

L1351[22:53:51] <williewillus> "direction=north"

L1352[22:53:56] <williewillus> that's what the default statemapper gives out

L1353[22:54:11] <williewillus> it's kinda hardcodey so usually I make a separate inventory variant

L1354[22:54:20] <DiscworldZA> true

L1355[22:54:27] <williewillus> like what i did in the relay you linked

L1356[22:54:47] <DiscworldZA> "inventory": [{}] well its empty?

L1357[22:54:56] <williewillus> because it inherits everythign from the defaults

L1358[22:55:09] <williewillus> in my case

L1359[22:58:19] <DiscworldZA> now ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(item, meta, new ModelResourceLocation(item.getRegistryName(), "direction=north")); but still not working

L1360[22:58:29] <williewillus> errors in log?

L1361[22:58:40] <williewillus> relating to the item ofc

L1362[22:59:00] <williewillus> also I'm assuming your itemblock has the same registry name as the block

L1363[22:59:03] <DiscworldZA> http://pastebin.com/jLaBeQeQ

L1364[22:59:10] <williewillus> since if not the blockstate json it wants wont be there obviously

L1365[23:00:46] <williewillus> from what i gather from the log, is that method being called?

L1366[23:00:52] <DiscworldZA> block registration http://pastebin.com/t3B4PARX

L1367[23:01:43] <DiscworldZA> ^ core

L1368[23:01:46] <williewillus> it's still looking for an "inventory" variant so your setCustomMrl call didn't run or something

L1369[23:01:49] <DiscworldZA> http://pastebin.com/Jd8ue8Fe < factions implementation

L1370[23:04:04] <DiscworldZA> it doesnt get called....

L1371[23:04:11] <williewillus> well then call it xD

L1372[23:05:12] <DiscworldZA> it should be XD

L1373[23:05:20] <williewillus> well where do you put it?

L1374[23:05:47] <DiscworldZA> Registration Class

L1375[23:06:08] <williewillus> needs to be in preinit

L1376[23:06:17] <williewillus> or called from something that's called in bpreinit

L1377[23:06:22] <williewillus> probably your client proxy

L1378[23:06:58] <DiscworldZA> thats where its called from

L1379[23:07:15] <williewillus> idk then :P go through step by setp with a debugger

L1380[23:07:18] <williewillus> put prints

L1381[23:07:20] <williewillus> somethign like that

L1382[23:07:34] <DiscworldZA> ok nvm i think i found it..

L1383[23:08:48] <DiscworldZA> got it...forgot the Factions ClientProxy does not extends from Core ClientProxy

L1384[23:09:19] <williewillus> this whole core split seems like it's getting in your way more than it's helping you :P

L1385[23:09:36] <williewillus> something something premature optimization ;)

L1386[23:10:15] <DiscworldZA> https://imgur.com/a/9lrhD

L1387[23:10:19] <DiscworldZA> thnx alot williewillus

L1388[23:10:28] <DiscworldZA> yeah have a few mods running of it though

L1389[23:10:56] <DiscworldZA> mostly 1.7.10 still so i have alot to port XD

L1390[23:11:03] <DiscworldZA> which is why i use the Core

L1391[23:13:35] <DiscworldZA> wow...we have been busy for 3 hours...i need a break...

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