OCLogs: 2016-10-23.log

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L27[01:59:40] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20161023 mappings to Forge Maven.

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L29[01:59:55] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L36[02:30:07] <killjoy> java's at a new milestone.

L37[02:30:14] <killjoy> java 8u111

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L81[05:53:49] <nathan72419> hi

L82[05:53:57] <nathan72419> can anyone hear me ?

L83[05:54:00] <nathan72419> just for testing

L84[05:54:03] <IoP> no

L85[05:54:33] <ghz|afk> I can read, but not hear

L86[05:54:36] <nathan72419> oh

L87[05:54:39] <nathan72419> lol

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L90[06:04:11] <OrionOnline> Hey Guys

L91[06:04:13] <OrionOnline> I have a question

L92[06:04:21] <OrionOnline> What variant of I18n should i use

L93[06:04:31] <OrionOnline> The deprecianted one in util

L94[06:04:36] <OrionOnline> Or the one in client?

L95[06:05:21] <nathan72419> what version are u using ?

L96[06:05:38] <OrionOnline> 1.10.2

L97[06:05:56] <nathan72419> i dont know

L98[06:05:58] <nathan72419> then

L99[06:06:00] <nathan72419> sorry

L100[06:06:02] <ghz|afk> OrionOnline: the one on the client package

L101[06:06:05] <ghz|afk> which has I18n.format

L102[06:06:18] <ghz|afk> if it doesn't work because you are translating on the server

L103[06:06:25] <ghz|afk> then you need to redesign your code

L104[06:06:31] <ghz|afk> because server-side, there's no mod strings at all

L105[06:07:00] <ghz|afk> (hence the other one being deprecated)

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L108[06:07:38] <Orion> Sorry connection dropped

L109[06:07:42] <Orion> Did you say something?

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L111[06:07:47] <ghz|afk> [13:06] (ghz|afk): OrionOnline: the one on the client package

L112[06:07:47] <ghz|afk> [13:06] (ghz|afk): which has I18n.format

L113[06:07:47] <ghz|afk> [13:06] (ghz|afk): if it doesn't work because you are translating on the server

L114[06:07:48] <ghz|afk> [13:06] (ghz|afk): then you need to redesign your code

L115[06:07:48] <ghz|afk> [13:06] (ghz|afk): because server-side, there's no mod strings at all

L116[06:07:48] <ghz|afk> [13:07] (ghz|afk): (hence the other one being deprecated)

L117[06:08:02] <Guest87447> Right

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L119[06:09:18] <OrionOnline> So then i have a problem

L120[06:09:40] <OrionOnline> https://gist.github.com/OrionDevelopment/bef1402c1be037a08bd435dc7746924e

L121[06:10:13] <OrionOnline> The method for getItemStackDisplayName(ItemStack stack) needs to return the translated one

L122[06:10:24] <ghz|afk> yep but it can't

L123[06:10:39] <ghz|afk> this is the ONE place

L124[06:10:45] <ghz|afk> where you have to use the deprecated method

L125[06:10:50] <OrionOnline> Okey thanks

L126[06:10:59] <ghz|afk> it will still work on the client

L127[06:11:05] <ghz|afk> since they end up reading the same data on the client jar

L128[06:11:25] <ghz|afk> but it will fail if called on the server such as sending chat messages with the item

L129[06:11:40] <ghz|afk> but this isn't your fault

L130[06:11:47] <ghz|afk> even vanilla items will fail

L131[06:11:51] <ghz|afk> xcept they will show in english

L132[06:11:55] <ghz|afk> yours won't translate at all ;P

L133[06:12:31] <OrionOnline> Okey

L134[06:12:35] <OrionOnline> So nothing i can do

L135[06:12:47] <OrionOnline> I guess this will be fixed later on?

L136[06:13:56] <ghz|afk> nope, this is a limitation of vanilla minecraft

L137[06:14:18] <ghz|afk> it won't load resource packs on the server

L138[06:14:18] <nathan72419> is there a way to change the material of vanilla blocks ?

L139[06:14:21] <ghz|afk> so it won't load the mod strings

L140[06:14:51] <ghz|afk> it has a hardcoded en_us.lang inside the jar, and that's all

L141[06:15:29] <ghz|afk> for it to work with mods, forge would have to manually load the strings from the mod files, and inject them into the table, and they have said it won't happen

L142[06:15:45] <ghz|afk> you just simply shouldn't be relying on server translations, ever.

L143[06:16:06] <ghz|afk> nathan72419: what do you mean with material?

L144[06:16:31] <ghz|afk> (the answer is still probably "no", though)

L145[06:16:43] <nathan72419> like i want to set wood to be break by axe

L146[06:16:54] <nathan72419> so i want to change the material of logs to rock

L147[06:17:43] <OrionOnline> ghz|afk, would it not be better to create a wrapper variant of I18n inside forge and redirect to the correct version

L148[06:17:54] <ghz|afk> what would that achieve?

L149[06:17:55] <OrionOnline> Alltough it is just one method

L150[06:17:58] <OrionOnline> Never mind

L151[06:18:04] <ghz|afk> the deprecated one already works in the client

L152[06:18:11] <ghz|afk> you jsut have to feel bad about it

L153[06:19:09] <ghz|afk> OrionOnline: this is how I use it: https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/gemstones/ItemGemstone.java#L54

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L155[06:19:34] <OrionOnline> Yeah i am slowly attaching those as well

L156[06:19:47] <ghz|afk> as a way to construct the full name like "Rougg Diamond"

L157[06:19:55] <ghz|afk> Rough*

L158[06:20:21] <MasterKrain> Guys, should crafting recipes be registered in the client or in the server? Server, right?

L159[06:20:47] <ghz|afk> both

L160[06:20:54] <MasterKrain> oh

L161[06:20:55] <ghz|afk> you shouldn't make a difference

L162[06:21:02] <ghz|afk> juist register them on your main mod's init event

L163[06:21:07] <ghz|afk> just*

L164[06:21:21] <MasterKrain> okay

L165[06:21:26] <ghz|afk> I mean main mod class*

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L170[06:39:19] <OrionOnline> ghz|afk, You know how i can determine which ItemStack gets dropped when a player break s my block?

L171[06:39:46] <ghz|afk> sure, override getDrops

L172[06:40:28] <ghz|afk> !gm func_189808_dh

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L180[07:22:49] <MasterKrain> guys what does NBT mean?

L181[07:24:49] <ghz|afk> no idea

L182[07:24:54] <ghz|afk> but it's a way to store tags

L183[07:24:58] <TechnicianLP> namedBinaryTag iirc

L184[07:25:08] <Necro> ^ exactly

L185[07:25:11] <ghz|afk> sortof like a binary thing similar to json/xml

L186[07:26:14] <Chunkr> NBT is a binary storage format.

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L189[07:31:21] <BlueMonster> so with the new config system, is there a way to set a default value?

L190[07:32:34] <ghz|afk> there's a new config system?

L191[07:34:37] <ghz|afk> ooh, in build 2103, I have been modding with 2102 XD

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L194[07:38:57] <TechnicianLP> is this efficient enough to run in a playerTickhander?: http://hastebin.com/ikawicozuw.cpp seems a bit heavy

L195[07:40:06] <ghz|afk> the heaviest thing in that function is the log print

L196[07:40:20] <ghz|afk> ;P

L197[07:40:29] <ghz|afk> it's just a tiny bit of maths

L198[07:40:33] <ghz|afk> that's a few microseconds tops

L199[07:40:36] <ghz|afk> nothing to worry about

L200[07:40:44] <TechnicianLP> ok thx

L201[07:41:03] <ghz|afk> unless getCapacity or getCost have to look up something in a table that's millions of entries long

L202[07:41:51] <Mr_Rockers> there a way I can make an event finish before the end of the function returns, or "wait" until the end of the event? (i.e. PartA(); event.execute(); PartB(); )

L203[07:42:17] <ghz|afk> uhh that's how events work?

L204[07:42:34] <TechnicianLP> those functions just multiply a few values: http://hastebin.com/ufefotuqen.cpp

L205[07:42:38] <ghz|afk> unless you aren't the one calling the event

L206[07:42:50] <ghz|afk> Mr_Rockers: please explain your situation better

L207[07:42:51] <ghz|afk> ;p

L208[07:43:01] <ghz|afk> we can't read your mind

L209[07:43:17] <Mr_Rockers> Sorry lol . It's a MinecraftForge BlockEvent.BreakEvent

L210[07:43:57] <Mr_Rockers> It's being listened on.

L211[07:44:19] <Mr_Rockers> http://pastebin.com/KZkjumFh

L212[07:45:00] <Mr_Rockers> preferably before the darkenNearby. I'm not so sure how I would go about doing it.

L213[07:46:24] <Mr_Rockers> (Oh, I know that passing in blockBreakEvent would render having the other two parameters pointless but I was just quickly testing something earlier.)

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L217[07:57:16] <Mr_Rockers> Could I create a custom event that fires after the block BreakEvent?

L218[07:57:47] <ghz|afk> I'm not sure why you need the event after

L219[08:02:56] <Mr_Rockers> Basically, I have these dark air blocks that surround a special "dimstone" block. However, whenever a block is placed where a dark air block once was, it gets replaced with a normal air block. "darknessGeneration.darkenNearby" fixes this by detecting if the air block is surrounded by dark air blocks and checks to see if the air block is nearby othe

L220[08:02:56] <Mr_Rockers> r darkness generators. If so, it will trigger a function to re-darken those blocks and the surrounding air blocks. Except, the break event is called before the target block is changed to an air block, meaning that the "re-darken" function becomes more-or-less useless.

L221[08:03:54] <Mr_Rockers> Sorry if that seemed kinda convoluted.

L222[08:04:59] <BlueMonster> ah, the default value is what you set the static field to :D

L223[08:05:01] <BlueMonster> simple

L224[08:05:21] <ghz|afk> BlueMonster: so you managed to get it working

L225[08:05:27] <ghz|afk> is there a way to specify categories or such?

L226[08:05:28] <BlueMonster> dunno how to limit the value of the rangedInt config to be getween the min and max

L227[08:05:36] <BlueMonster> ah... yea i did

L228[08:05:41] <BlueMonster> lemme gist

L229[08:06:00] <BlueMonster> https://gist.github.com/bluemonster122/714042734fa66dd9ac74905e13f10a86

L230[08:06:17] <BlueMonster> that is all yo uneed

L231[08:06:32] <ghz|afk> hmm but won't that save everything in a "general" category?

L232[08:06:49] <BlueMonster> yep

L233[08:06:57] <ghz|afk> aha then it's not really useful to me yet

L234[08:07:30] <BlueMonster> there is a @LangKey, that i didnt play with

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L239[08:17:54] <JustWhoAmI> for some reason

L240[08:18:07] <JustWhoAmI> my TE, which does return ItemStackHanlder

L241[08:18:09] <JustWhoAmI> dler*

L242[08:18:24] <JustWhoAmI> won't connect to mekanism's logistical transporter

L243[08:18:34] <ghz|afk> Mekanism doesn't support IItemHandler

L244[08:18:37] <ghz|afk> they are stuck on the old IInventory

L245[08:18:38] <JustWhoAmI> really

L246[08:18:40] <JustWhoAmI> ;_;

L247[08:18:44] <ghz|afk> so just ignore Mekanism

L248[08:18:46] <ghz|afk> ;P

L249[08:18:49] <JustWhoAmI> lol

L250[08:19:08] <JustWhoAmI> is there an interface they have that i can implement to have them connect?

L251[08:19:09] <ghz|afk> every other mod with pipes does work, IIRC

L252[08:19:23] <ghz|afk> you'd have to implement the old IInventory, so fuck that

L253[08:19:23] <JustWhoAmI> yeah

L254[08:19:25] <JustWhoAmI> hoppers worked

L255[08:19:29] <JustWhoAmI> enderio conduits worked

L256[08:19:31] <ghz|afk> let THEM fix their side

L257[08:19:40] <JustWhoAmI> okie :D

L258[08:19:56] <JustWhoAmI> it's so frigging ez to do tho

L259[08:20:04] <JustWhoAmI> they've been inactive for a while now

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L262[08:35:55] <nathan72419> how to use @optional ?

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L264[08:36:06] <nathan72419> it doesnt seems to work in 1.7.10

L265[08:41:24] <shadowfacts> @Optional worked perfectly fine in 1.7

L266[08:41:30] <ghz|afk> @Optional.Interface(Interfacename.class)

L267[08:41:30] <shadowfacts> you're probably just using it incorrectly

L268[08:44:56] <raoulvdberge> Is there a TextComponentHyperlink or something?

L269[08:45:19] <TechnicianLP> you can put a click event which opens a link

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L273[09:01:48] <OrionOnline> ghz|afk, you remember me asking for the getDrops method?

L274[09:01:56] <OrionOnline> Do you know of anythign earlier?

L275[09:02:10] <OrionOnline> My TE which holds some data that i need to the NBT of the Stack

L276[09:02:16] <OrionOnline> Is already deleted at that point

L277[09:04:14] <MasterKrain> Guys, how can i add a description to an item?

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L279[09:04:53] <MasterKrain> i tried to put "item.myitem.desc=Something." in the en_US.lang but that didnt work

L280[09:06:32] <Necro> you have to override Item#addInformation(ItemStack, EntityPlayer, List<String>, boolean) for tooltips

L281[09:06:52] <MasterKrain> ah ok, thanks

L282[09:08:13] <Necro> you need to add items to the list from par3

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L285[09:10:20] <MasterKrain> @Necro it says this "The type List is not generic; it cannot be parameterized with arguments <String>"

L286[09:10:58] <Cyclonit> Hi, I'd like to add a toggle option to the create world screen and I need the value of that option in World on both on client and server. Is there a forge-way to do that?

L287[09:11:17] <MasterKrain> @Necro is this not what you meant..? http://pastie.org/private/fj8rv68qlcdzbstbzcrxsq

L288[09:12:01] <Necro> MasterKrain: yes

L289[09:12:22] <TvL2386> hi guys, what's an ItemStack actually?

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L291[09:12:50] <MasterKrain> @TvL2386 a stack of items

L292[09:13:13] <Necro> MasterKrain: are you sure you use the right list class.

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L294[09:13:18] <IoP> fyi ;(

L295[09:13:33] <MasterKrain> @Necro probably not xD

L296[09:13:44] <IoP> interesting the bot is quiet here

L297[09:13:45] <Necro> you need the java.util one

L298[09:13:56] <MasterKrain> ah yes

L299[09:14:05] <TechnicianLP> RenderGameOverlayEvent or RenderTickEvent?

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L302[09:17:08] <Intektor> I have to hook myself after everything got rendered, is that possible?

L303[09:17:35] <Intektor> so I can work with the mc frame buffer

L304[09:17:46] <TechnicianLP> RnderTickEvent with phase = post could work

L305[09:18:10] <TechnicianLP> you could also look at how mc does screenshots

L306[09:19:20] <TvL2386> MasterKrain: I'm overriding this method: "onArmorTick(World world, EntityPlayer player, ItemStack stack)" but how would I know what's in the stack variable? Yeah an ItemStack... but what is it?

L307[09:20:40] <TvL2386> It really seems to be a certain amount of Item BLAH?

L308[09:21:47] <TechnicianLP> Item = Singleton; ItemStack = stack you see ingame with amoutn,damage,and nbt-data

L309[09:22:08] <TvL2386> Thank you!

L310[09:22:18] <TvL2386> why is it provided to the onArmorTick method?

L311[09:22:32] <TvL2386> does it supply the equipped armor item?

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L313[09:22:41] <ghz|afk> [16:02] (OrionOnline): ghz|afk, you remember me asking for the getDrops method?

L314[09:22:42] <ghz|afk> [16:02] (OrionOnline): Do you know of anythign earlier?

L315[09:22:42] <ghz|afk> [16:02] (OrionOnline): My TE which holds some data that i need to the NBT of the Stack

L316[09:22:42] <ghz|afk> [16:02] (OrionOnline): Is already deleted at that point

L317[09:22:46] <ghz|afk> check BlockFlowerPot

L318[09:22:51] <ghz|afk> there's a forge section in it

L319[09:22:59] <ghz|afk> which shows how to allow getDrops access to the TE

L320[09:23:20] <TechnicianLP> Tvl that method is called every tick while the armor is worn (with the armorstack as argument)

L321[09:23:24] <kokolihapihvi> hey ghz|afk, I got an idea for a mod: multithreading the world generation ;)

L322[09:23:35] <ghz|afk> kokolihapihvi: lol good luck with that

L323[09:23:50] <ghz|afk> multiple people havetried that

L324[09:23:50] <TvL2386> TechnicianLP: thanks! I'll just send the ItemStack to the logger and call toString() on it

L325[09:23:52] <ghz|afk> including Mojang

L326[09:23:56] <ghz|afk> all of them gave up on the idea

L327[09:24:00] <TechnicianLP> kokol: you could take a look at tickthreading

L328[09:24:18] <TechnicianLP> it (kindof) worked in 1.4.7

L329[09:24:42] <kokolihapihvi> how hard could it possibly be to put a thread on that processes chunk requests and feeds them into the world to be networked etc. D:

L330[09:24:58] <ghz|afk> much harder than it sounds

L331[09:25:02] <barteks2x> light updates are hard

L332[09:25:10] <barteks2x> foe example

L333[09:25:26] <TechnicianLP> you also have to consider: many mods are not writen to be multithreaded

L334[09:25:30] <ghz|afk> how do you synchronize access to the chunk while it's in the middle of generation, for example

L335[09:25:33] <LatvianModder> create a thread for each chunk you generate #DontActuallyDoIt

L336[09:25:53] <barteks2x> just accessing the chunk isn't a problem, that global per-world list internally used for light updates is

L337[09:26:32] <kokolihapihvi> uhh well, how about this: building a custom server entirely from scratch while still having support for forge? anyone? :D

L338[09:27:36] <Intektor> ok that works, is there a way to convert a frame buffer into a two dimension int array?

L339[09:29:09] <kokolihapihvi> I mean I'm up for a try at multithreading the world if its even slightly possible

L340[09:30:15] <ghz|afk> as I said: good luck with it ;P

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L342[09:31:37] <kokolihapihvi> do some mods actually access a chunk while its being generated though?

L343[09:32:26] <Intektor> ghz|afk, I took a look at how the twitch thing worked, and it looks like it basicially just uses the mc frame buffer

L344[09:33:25] <ghz|afk> Intektor: I have 0 experience doing stuff like that with opengl

L345[09:33:28] <ghz|afk> so I can't help you either

L346[09:33:28] <ghz|afk> ;P

L347[09:34:31] <barteks2x> mods actually frequently generate more chunks while generating chunks, so even worse

L348[09:34:41] <Intektor> I could now transform that into a buffered image, but that halfs my fps, and vr with 30 fps sucks

L349[09:34:47] <kokolihapihvi> I'd have to do alot of research on how the world generator works

L350[09:34:53] <kokolihapihvi> what do you mean barteks2x ?

L351[09:35:12] <ghz|afk> kokolihapihvi: if you access a chunk during worldgen, it will cause it to be generated too

L352[09:35:20] <ghz|afk> which is unsupported and can cause problems

L353[09:35:25] <barteks2x> mod starts generating chunk, gets block that it's generated yet while generating that chunk and ends up generting more, sometimes it continues up to StackOverflowError

L354[09:35:41] <barteks2x> it's wrong but many mods do that

L355[09:36:18] <kokolihapihvi> ah so getting a block in any IWorldAccess that doesn't exist causes that chunk to be generated?

L356[09:37:10] <barteks2x> and the way populatioon works can be really surprising if you didn't see that before

L357[09:37:36] <kokolihapihvi> does that run after or during the chunk generation?

L358[09:38:02] <barteks2x> kind if in between? It runs when it can - when enough chunks are generated around to do population

L359[09:38:39] <barteks2x> and "enough" is exactly 3 chunks around in positive x/z direction

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L361[09:39:07] <kokolihapihvi> and I assume it causes chunks to generate if its making some big dungeon that doesn't fit in that space?

L362[09:39:20] <barteks2x> there are 2 kinds of structures

L363[09:39:40] <barteks2x> population generators and structure generators, they work completely differently

L364[09:40:11] <barteks2x> population only generate things that can fit into the population area, structure generators are complicated and generate big things but also never go outside the population area

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L366[09:42:53] <kokolihapihvi> okay so already this sounds like it's gonna go way over my head

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L368[09:44:17] <kokolihapihvi> actually couldn't I just make my own world classes that are semi thread safe and work from there?

L369[09:44:17] <barteks2x> The only structure generators I fully understand so far are cave and ravine generators (and raine generator is mostly copypasted cave generator code with some tweaks)

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L371[09:44:53] <barteks2x> if you can count them as structures

L372[09:45:14] <Xilef11> So if I don't cancel the LivingFallEvent, I can't bounce the player back up? https://gist.github.com/Xilef11/37fe683fc5e333b1b7e08594afb3a71d

L373[09:45:25] <kokolihapihvi> what, caves are done using the structure generator? o.O

L374[09:45:51] <kokolihapihvi> I always thought that they were just one more layer of 3d noise

L375[09:46:02] <barteks2x> nope

L376[09:46:07] <barteks2x> it's closer to perlin worms

L377[09:46:12] <barteks2x> but it's still not that

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L379[09:46:39] <kokolihapihvi> I'm starting to see why everyones given up on this :D

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L381[09:48:33] <barteks2x> I actually have fully deobfucated understandable cave generation code, you can see how it works if you want (I assume decompiled code it too hard to understand)

L382[09:48:48] <raoulvdberge> is PlayerEvent.PlayerLoggedInEvent client side only for the current player?

L383[09:48:56] <raoulvdberge> or is it like for every player logged in

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L385[09:50:39] <kokolihapihvi> oh also what about custom world generators?

L386[09:51:03] <barteks2x> these would break horribly when multithreaded, even if you somehow managed to fix vanilla

L387[09:51:17] <kokolihapihvi> thats what I expected

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L389[09:52:08] <kokolihapihvi> even if I got the generation itself running on a separate thread, minecraft would assume that the chunk has been generated since code is running

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L391[09:52:36] <barteks2x> you would first need to fix world.checkLightFor to make it multithreaded

L392[09:53:19] <barteks2x> unless you won't want worldgen light updates

L393[09:54:35] <barteks2x> I already had this discussion with 3 different people, and once they understood how worldgen worked - everyone gave up on that idea without even trying

L394[09:54:43] <kokolihapihvi> there wouldn't be a sweet spot between minecraft and a world generator to build a wrapper or something like that, right?

L395[09:55:20] <Boreeas> huh, predictive sequential world gen in a separate thread?

L396[09:55:43] <TechnicianLP> any tips on how to use RenderGameOVerlayEvent? it seems to erse the hotbar if i render something on top of it

L397[09:56:10] <Ordinastie> "to erse" ?

L398[09:56:15] <TechnicianLP> erase

L399[09:56:18] <ghz|afk> he's writing to the depth buffer

L400[09:56:26] <ghz|afk> preventing the next layer from drawing

L401[09:56:31] <ghz|afk> it's not really erasing anything

L402[09:56:38] <ghz|afk> TechnicianLP: use .Post

L403[09:56:49] <TechnicianLP> im in post an drawing a gradientrect

L404[09:57:33] <TechnicianLP> code right now: http://hastebin.com/zifenuyuxe.scala

L405[09:57:52] <kokolihapihvi> barteks2x, would it be possible to change the vanilla mechanics so that it wraps the current world generator (whatever it is) in its own thread and polls that for chunks?

L406[09:58:17] <barteks2x> chunk generators need access to already generated chunks. This is the big issue

L407[09:58:57] <barteks2x> no idea how you could possibly wrap that

L408[09:59:35] <kokolihapihvi> right...

L409[09:59:59] <barteks2x> and the part that would be "easy" to make multithreaded is already very fast

L410[10:00:35] <kokolihapihvi> which is base terrain generation from noise?

L411[10:00:58] <barteks2x> yes, +dirt/grass/sand+caves+ravines+some parts of structures

L412[10:01:05] <ghz|afk> the process is a bit like

L413[10:01:27] <ghz|afk> generate terrain -> add water below sea level -> compute grass surfaces -> generate caves and ravies

L414[10:01:43] <ghz|afk> eh missed ores before caves

L415[10:01:51] <barteks2x> no, ores are later

L416[10:01:55] <ghz|afk> are they?

L417[10:01:58] <barteks2x> ores are part of population

L418[10:02:06] <barteks2x> and population is after all of that

L419[10:02:24] <TechnicianLP> switching the type to ALL seems to have fixed it (somehow ...)

L420[10:02:39] <ghz|afk> ALL .Post runs after everything

L421[10:02:42] <ghz|afk> it's special

L422[10:02:52] <ghz|afk> because it changes the rendering values

L423[10:03:03] <ghz|afk> which means your issue is that you aren't setting up the right values in the GlStateManager

L424[10:03:38] <kokolihapihvi> how did fastcraft make the world generation smoother? I know it wasn't multithreading but for my old pc it was enough

L425[10:03:41] <ghz|afk> in my WIP magic mod

L426[10:03:41] <barteks2x> it's terrain shape+water --> biome surface --> caves ravines and some parts of structures; then population: finishing structures-->a few vanilla populators and mods-->biome decoration

L427[10:03:42] <ghz|afk> I had to do

L428[10:03:54] <ghz|afk> GlStateManager.pushAttrib();

L429[10:03:54] <ghz|afk> GlStateManager.depthMask(false);

L430[10:03:58] <ghz|afk> before starting to draw

L431[10:04:08] <ghz|afk> and GlStateManager.popAttrib() afterward

L432[10:04:26] <TechnicianLP> im using the methods from the GUI class; ok i will be trying that

L433[10:04:33] <ghz|afk> although now that I look at it again

L434[10:04:37] <ghz|afk> the pushAttrib doesn't make sense

L435[10:04:44] <barteks2x> Maybe fastcraft simply disallows recursive terrain generation, that's all I can imagine that can be done. And probably light update optimizations

L436[10:05:15] <ghz|afk> TechnicianLP: https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/client/renderers/MagicContainerOverlay.java

L437[10:05:19] <ghz|afk> look at that if you want

L438[10:06:41] <TechnicianLP> far more complicated than i thought

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L440[10:09:32] <kokolihapihvi> barteks2x, would it be possible to break it into several passes? first pass only does terrain, second pass applies biomes etc. to spread the calculations over several ticks?

L441[10:10:01] <Xilef11> So if I don't cancel the LivingFallEvent (and therefore cancel the damage), I can't bounce the player back up? https://gist.github.com/Xilef11/37fe683fc5e333b1b7e08594afb3a71d

L442[10:10:45] <barteks2x> It would work, I (actually Cuchaz) already tried that and it ended up being smooth but overall slower

L443[10:11:03] <barteks2x> It was called generation pipeline

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L445[10:12:55] <barteks2x> the stages as I remember: terrain, biomes/surface, structures, light, features/population

L446[10:13:20] <kokolihapihvi> okay now imagine if you had a separate thread for each of those steps <3

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L448[10:13:42] <barteks2x> the last one was the slowest one...

L449[10:13:53] <Cyclonit> kokolihapihvi, I tried that (as part of CubicChunks), you have to deal with loads of dependencies between different stages

L450[10:13:57] <ghz|afk> kokolihapihvi: not a separate thread, just different "jobs" queued on a thread pool

L451[10:14:01] <Cyclonit> Its certainly not easy and all I could come up with was much slower

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L453[10:14:24] <ghz|afk> the way I do it in a WIP proof of concept / playgorund engine

L454[10:14:35] <ghz|afk> is that I have a sorting scheduler

L455[10:14:51] <ghz|afk> the queued tasks are re-sorted based on the player position

L456[10:15:22] <barteks2x> minecraft also sorts queued chunk generation based in player position. It's just singlethreaded

L457[10:15:39] <ghz|afk> yeah

L458[10:15:41] <ghz|afk> for me it's a thread pool

L459[10:15:43] <barteks2x> and it does smooth out generation over many ticks too

L460[10:16:16] <ghz|afk> I also have "phase dependencies"

L461[10:16:17] <ghz|afk> so like

L462[10:16:32] <ghz|afk> if someone just wants to check for the terrain surface

L463[10:16:33] <barteks2x> sounds like generation pipeline from cubic chunks

L464[10:16:36] <ghz|afk> they'd require phase = 1

L465[10:16:51] <ghz|afk> which would queue phase1 generation to the pool

L466[10:17:03] <ghz|afk> and then have an event with a condition set when this task finishes

L467[10:17:17] <ghz|afk> and after all conditions are met, the dependant step runs

L468[10:18:39] <ghz|afk> -1=non-existant chunk, 0=chunk generation initiated but no data present yet, 1=terrain density computed

L469[10:18:47] <ghz|afk> 2=surface features generated

L470[10:18:52] <ghz|afk> and that's how far it goes for now

L471[10:19:12] <ghz|afk> I'd have like 3=structures, 4=trees, etc

L472[10:19:13] <barteks2x> except of the multithreading part, that's almost exactly how generator pipeline worked

L473[10:19:23] <ghz|afk> yeah

L474[10:19:33] <ghz|afk> there aren't taht many ways to approach this

L475[10:19:57] <kokolihapihvi> so I'd end up coding all of vanillas world generation with my own, rendering all custom world generators broken, right?

L476[10:20:05] <ghz|afk> pretty much

L477[10:20:40] <kokolihapihvi> and I just thought you could toss the current world generator into a thread and it no longer stops people from playing properly D:

L478[10:20:47] <Cyclonit> ghz|afk, how do you deal with different phases depending on other cubes being in earlier phases?

L479[10:21:18] <ghz|afk> Cyclonit: ...by requesting that those tiles are generated first

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L481[10:21:35] <ghz|afk> I have strict rules about it

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L483[10:21:46] <ghz|afk> such as phase2 generation must never require phase2 dependencies

L484[10:21:57] <ghz|afk> so that the generation can never extend too far

L485[10:22:14] <ghz|afk> or cause infinite loops

L486[10:22:20] <ghz|afk> so like

L487[10:22:27] <ghz|afk> in order to compute the surface grass

L488[10:22:32] <Cyclonit> Sure, but how do you deal with the overhead of chunks having to wait for other chunks being generated first? Without having all workers pause and wait for each other

L489[10:22:41] <ghz|afk> they don't pause

L490[10:22:49] <ghz|afk> phase 1 is a different job from phase 2

L491[10:22:56] <ghz|afk> this other job is triggered by the conditions being met

L492[10:23:17] <ghz|afk> when a chunk finishes generating a phase

L493[10:23:30] <ghz|afk> it will call all the event handlers for that phase

L494[10:23:42] <ghz|afk> yes, that implies a delay

L495[10:23:47] <ghz|afk> that's unavoidable.

L496[10:23:58] <Cyclonit> sounds very similar to my approach

L497[10:24:11] <kokolihapihvi> hey what if we remake the vanilla generator and throw it at mojang and make it the new standard in minecraft? :p

L498[10:24:15] <ghz|afk> the chunk graphics are never computed unless the last phase is done

L499[10:24:23] <ghz|afk> well, last for now ;P

L500[10:24:40] <barteks2x> remaking vanilla generator? that's moslty what we are going to do in cubic chunks

L501[10:24:55] <kokolihapihvi> will it be multithreaded?

L502[10:24:59] <barteks2x> no

L503[10:25:03] <kokolihapihvi> aww :(

L504[10:25:12] <barteks2x> I already rejected that, because it would be ewy too complex

L505[10:25:26] <barteks2x> The mod is already complicated enough

L506[10:25:55] <kokolihapihvi> I can believe that

L507[10:26:11] <barteks2x> but I had to use a few clever tricks to make grass generation work

L508[10:26:27] <kokolihapihvi> I also remember jens making some comment on cubic chunks, so its got potential to become the new standard?

L509[10:26:47] <barteks2x> minecraft 1.2 update (Anvil) was based on Robintons' cubic chunks mod

L510[10:27:19] <kokolihapihvi> ah

L511[10:27:24] <barteks2x> anvil is basically semi-cubic-chunks system

L512[10:27:42] <ghz|afk> thisi s the current state of my engine:

L513[10:27:56] <ghz|afk> ...uploading...

L514[10:28:02] <barteks2x> it has the best of both worlds: simplicity of 2d chunks, and lower memory usage and optimizations from cubic chunks

L515[10:28:16] <ghz|afk> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/2016-10-23-1726-28.mp4

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L517[10:28:24] <ghz|afk> there's a HUGE optimization I need to add

L518[10:28:31] <ghz|afk> which is to avoid generating chunk data and meshes

L519[10:28:38] <ghz|afk> for chunks that are not needed for rendering

L520[10:28:52] <Tank2333> Hello

L521[10:28:57] <ghz|afk> right now I'm generating chunks underground, in a spherical shape

L522[10:29:01] <Ordinastie> ghz|afk, in what language is that ?

L523[10:29:08] <ghz|afk> C#, with MonoGame

L524[10:29:25] <barteks2x> reminds me to continue working on my mc clone

L525[10:29:49] <kokolihapihvi> hey now, don't we have enough of those already? :p

L526[10:30:00] <ghz|afk> oh yeah, in this version I disabled the ambient occlusion

L527[10:30:04] <ghz|afk> because it was horribly slow

L528[10:30:07] <barteks2x> that was a project I started for programming classes :D

L529[10:30:10] <Ordinastie> what I wan't to see is a functionning vanilla client in C# :p

L530[10:30:12] <ghz|afk> I have to add an SSAO shader

L531[10:30:35] <Ordinastie> not just a clone, a proper client that would connect to MC servers :p

L532[10:30:43] <kokolihapihvi> what I want to see is a multithreaded server that doesn't stop everything while it's generating chunks

L533[10:31:03] <ghz|afk> wasn't there some project to write a replacement server in C++ or something

L534[10:31:16] <ghz|afk> it would use the same protocol as vanilla, meaning the client would be the same

L535[10:31:16] <barteks2x> minecraft for win 10?

L536[10:31:19] <ghz|afk> no

L537[10:31:24] <ghz|afk> I mean actual server for java mc

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L539[10:31:35] <ghz|afk> there was at least one project for that

L540[10:31:40] <barteks2x> glowstone?

L541[10:31:56] <ghz|afk> no idea

L542[10:31:59] <ghz|afk> but google gave me

L543[10:31:59] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/cuberite/cuberite

L544[10:32:07] <barteks2x> the one that sponge initially wanted to be compatible with when it's done

L545[10:32:09] <ghz|afk> "A custom Minecraft compatible game server written in C++"

L546[10:32:14] <barteks2x> oh, C++

L547[10:32:39] <barteks2x> ghz|afk> I mean actual server for java mc --> I understood that as the server being in java

L548[10:32:40] <kokolihapihvi> cuberite must be a new one, I remember some older one as well

L549[10:32:50] <ghz|afk> oh no I meant a C++ server for java mc

L550[10:32:58] <ghz|afk> kokolihapihvi: yeah that name doesn't sound familiar

L551[10:33:11] <williewillus> !gm func_147451_t

L552[10:33:17] <williewillus> !gm func_147451_t 1.7.10

L553[10:33:21] <ghz|afk> hmf

L554[10:33:23] <ghz|afk> so

L555[10:33:26] <Katrix> From what I've heard Cuberite isn't new at all, but it switched name at some point

L556[10:33:27] <ghz|afk> speaking about world generation stuff

L557[10:33:35] <ghz|afk> I was thinking about occlusion testing

L558[10:33:40] <ghz|afk> for mesh generation and such

L559[10:33:51] <ghz|afk> my idea was to keep 3 arrays per chunk

L560[10:33:54] <ghz|afk> one for eahc plane

L561[10:34:12] <ghz|afk> with a counter of how many opaque blocks exist in that "column"

L562[10:34:25] <ghz|afk> if 0, then the column wouldn't be occluded

L563[10:34:42] <barteks2x> isn't that yet another attempt to do the same occlusion testing as vanilla does for rendering now?

L564[10:34:51] <ghz|afk> I have no idea how mc does it.

L565[10:35:11] <barteks2x> I saw it on blog of someone's from mojang

L566[10:35:12] <Ordinastie> there was an article somewhere about how they improved it

L567[10:35:22] <Ordinastie> yeah same one I think

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L570[10:35:35] <barteks2x> they initially made it for mcpe

L571[10:35:37] <ghz|afk> my idea was to use that to compute if thgere's any reason to require a chunk to generate

L572[10:35:39] <barteks2x> and then ported to java

L573[10:35:50] <ghz|afk> so like, if a chunk's "vertical occlusion" is fully covered

L574[10:35:59] <ghz|afk> thre's nothing in the chunk below worth rendering

L575[10:36:18] <barteks2x> the vanilla system could techniclly be used for that, it just makes no sense in vanilla because of 2d chunks

L576[10:36:44] <ghz|afk> thing is, it feels too inefficient to just do a "flood fill" from the player's position

L577[10:36:53] <ghz|afk> and see which chunks are touched

L578[10:37:05] <Ordinastie> not sure if it was that one : https://tomcc.github.io/2014/08/31/visibility-1.html

L579[10:37:16] <ghz|afk> but I can't think of something better ;P

L580[10:37:27] <barteks2x> yes, it's that one

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L582[10:42:03] <kokolihapihvi> well I think I will still try look into the multithreading thing, it feels like it'll go way over my head but it's gonna be interesting

L583[10:44:25] <ghz|afk> ah that sounds nice

L584[10:44:32] <ghz|afk> one bit for each pair of faces

L585[10:44:44] <ghz|afk> and compute if each face connects to another

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L587[10:44:57] <kokolihapihvi> it's time to eat and stuff, I'll be back later to ask more dumb questions, cya :p

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L599[11:27:55] <shadowfacts> is there a pair of events that are fired before/after the entire world is rendered?

L600[11:28:27] <shadowfacts> I need to modify the gamma setting for world rendering if a certain condition is true before the world is rendered and reset it after rendering

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L615[12:05:35] <shartte> "gamma"?

L616[12:05:50] <shartte> gamma in windowed :P

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L620[12:11:41] <ghz|afk> shadowfacts: RenderTickEvent?

L621[12:11:59] <ghz|afk> with phase=START/END

L622[12:12:00] <shadowfacts> aha

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L627[12:16:45] <MasterKrain> Guys, how can i make an item appear randomly in dungeon chests and the like?

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L629[12:17:00] <williewillus> add it to the loot table of the dungeon

L630[12:17:07] <MasterKrain> where can i do that

L631[12:17:28] <williewillus> LootTableLoadEvent

L632[12:17:41] <MasterKrain> ah okay

L633[12:18:01] <williewillus> botania does this by specifying its own loot tables for what it wants to add then injecting it as a pool into the original table. more modular/manageable that way

L634[12:18:02] <williewillus> https://github.com/Vazkii/Botania/blob/master/src/main/java/vazkii/botania/common/core/loot/LootHandler.java#L41

L635[12:18:24] <ghz|afk> o/ williewillus

L636[12:18:27] <williewillus> heyo

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L638[12:19:03] <shadowfacts> is there any way of preventing water from slowing the player down (movement-wise)?

L639[12:19:19] <shadowfacts> the only way I can see requires a new hook in Forge

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L647[12:25:47] <wundrweapon> well I've quite a few questions that Google has yet to answer

L648[12:27:02] <wundrweapon> first off, what is hasContainerItem/getContainerItem, and what do they do

L649[12:27:34] <Ordinastie> think bucket item for water bucket

L650[12:28:14] <ghz|afk> they allow an ingredient to be inside a container

L651[12:28:23] <ghz|afk> letting you keep the container in the crafting grid

L652[12:28:34] <ghz|afk> vanilla example: water/lava

L653[12:28:41] <ghz|afk> and milk

L654[12:28:49] <ghz|afk> make a cake? it returns the bucket

L655[12:29:18] <ghz|afk> for mod use, there's plenty of cases. if you use an "Ink bottle" as a replacement for ink sac

L656[12:29:23] <ghz|afk> you could return the empty bottle

L657[12:29:41] <ghz|afk> cans with fluid

L658[12:29:55] <ghz|afk> a food recipe that uses bowls could return the bowl if used to craft a more complex recipe

L659[12:30:21] <wundrweapon> makes sense

L660[12:30:44] <wundrweapon> would I use that for damaging an item when crafting then handing it back to the player in its damaged state?

L661[12:31:20] <ghz|afk> it can be used for it, yes

L662[12:31:25] <ghz|afk> you return the item after applying the damage

L663[12:33:40] <wundrweapon> ok then, that helps

L664[12:34:11] <wundrweapon> what's getRecipeOutput for in IRecipe

L665[12:34:33] <ghz|afk> a generic output

L666[12:34:46] <ghz|afk> you could return the item without meta/nbt or whatever

L667[12:34:57] <ghz|afk> something taht is representative of what the recipe does

L668[12:35:03] <ghz|afk> in case someone calls that method

L669[12:35:10] <williewillus> what is it actually used for in vanilla

L670[12:35:23] <ghz|afk> oh wait

L671[12:35:27] <ghz|afk> it's nullable hmm

L672[12:35:28] <ghz|afk> checking

L673[12:35:40] <ghz|afk> default crafting result is getRecipeOutput().copy()

L674[12:35:58] <ghz|afk> crafting stats in the StatList

L675[12:36:22] <ghz|afk> and the ore dictionary

L676[12:36:25] <wundrweapon> hmmm that could be an issue

L677[12:36:30] <ghz|afk> also JEI calls the method

L678[12:36:51] <ghz|afk> JEI expects getRecipeOutput to return *something*

L679[12:37:07] <ghz|afk> for shaped and shapeless recipes

L680[12:37:16] <ghz|afk> (anything that extends the vanilla recipe classes)

L681[12:37:19] <wundrweapon> I have an item, and essentially I want to put it and another item in the grid, then I get two of that other item and damage the first item. what would I put in getRecipeOutput then?

L682[12:37:47] <ghz|afk> a plain version of the item?

L683[12:38:03] <ghz|afk> or like, return Items.stick if you can't choose

L684[12:38:03] <ghz|afk> ;P

L685[12:38:10] <williewillus> why not just null

L686[12:38:12] <williewillus> if it's nullable

L687[12:38:41] <ghz|afk> well, statList#initCraftableStats

L688[12:38:47] <ghz|afk> oh wait

L689[12:38:49] <ghz|afk> it checks != null

L690[12:38:50] <ghz|afk> so yeah

L691[12:38:52] <ghz|afk> return null from there

L692[12:39:03] <wundrweapon> noice

L693[12:39:08] <wundrweapon> takes care of that then

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L695[12:39:24] <wundrweapon> getRemainingItems is items that remain in the grid, yes?

L696[12:39:38] <ghz|afk> yes

L697[12:40:03] <ghz|afk> uh wait

L698[12:40:08] <ghz|afk> if you have your own IRecipe

L699[12:40:19] <ghz|afk> you don't need .getContainerItem, do you?

L700[12:41:16] <wundrweapon> i dunno, do i?

L701[12:41:33] <ghz|afk> well vanilla recipes call that on .getcontainerItem

L702[12:41:38] <ghz|afk> but you have your own custom implementation

L703[12:41:42] <ghz|afk> so it's up to you how you do it

L704[12:41:49] <wundrweapon> neato

L705[12:42:03] <wundrweapon> side question: why do I get the feeling you aren't afk?

L706[12:43:14] <wundrweapon> anyways, I'll be back in a bit

L707[12:43:19] <wundrweapon> (whats the rename cmd?

L708[12:43:27] <howtonotwin> /nick

L709[12:43:30] <ghz|afk> how do you know I don't have a mind control interface

L710[12:44:04] <wundrweapon> kek

L711[12:44:16] <wundrweapon> test

L712[12:44:30] <ghz|afk> or maybe my nickname is ghz|afk, and if I was truly afk I'd be ghz|afk|afk

L713[12:44:43] <wundrweapon> #Conspiracy

L714[12:49:42] <wundrweapon> well then, now I hve a system where putting in " ", " XY", " " returns two of Y as the output but changes the grid to "X ", " XY", " "

L715[12:50:43] <wundrweapon> which means it's like 67% right but still totally wrong

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L718[12:59:10] <JustWhoAmI> what exactly does null in EnumFacing mean?

L719[12:59:13] <JustWhoAmI> what does it signify

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L723[13:00:36] <howtonotwin> where?

L724[13:00:55] <JustWhoAmI> where?

L725[13:01:03] <howtonotwin> <JustWhoAmI> what exactly does null in EnumFacing mean?

L726[13:01:06] <howtonotwin> where is that?

L727[13:01:09] <howtonotwin> it depends

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L729[13:01:26] <JustWhoAmI> like in capabilities, if you use null as the second arg. in has/getCap

L730[13:01:29] <JustWhoAmI> what does it mean?

L731[13:01:49] <howtonotwin> means that "direction" is not applicable to the capability in question

L732[13:01:51] <howtonotwin> like for entities

L733[13:02:02] <howtonotwin> which don't really have "sides" like blocks do

L734[13:02:07] <howtonotwin> same for items

L735[13:02:28] <JustWhoAmI> if I were to use it with ItemStackHandler (for a TE) would it mean any side?

L736[13:02:43] <howtonotwin> that's your choice

L737[13:02:52] <howtonotwin> imagine a block in another dimension

L738[13:03:00] <howtonotwin> that's interfacing with this one

L739[13:03:09] <howtonotwin> there's no such thing as a "direction" between dimensions

L740[13:03:13] <howtonotwin> what should that block see?

L741[13:03:17] <howtonotwin> should it see nothing?

L742[13:03:22] <howtonotwin> should it see all the inventories?

L743[13:03:36] <JustWhoAmI> alright, tahnks

L744[13:03:38] <JustWhoAmI> thanks*

L745[13:03:38] <howtonotwin> should it see Cthulhu?

L746[13:03:41] <JustWhoAmI> xD

L747[13:03:41] <howtonotwin> your choice

L748[13:05:46] <BlueMonster> so, this is giving me a null pointer exception... whaddup? https://gist.github.com/bluemonster122/931f3fa8d61aad5784d5272112a28d43

L749[13:06:18] <JustWhoAmI> at which line?

L750[13:06:29] <BlueMonster> when it tries registering the item

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L752[13:06:38] <BlueMonster> i think because the block is null

L753[13:07:08] <Shambling> is there a known mod for 1.10.2 causing packet length too long errors? Or is there a spot where it will say what mod has too long of a network packet length

L754[13:07:58] <howtonotwin> 1) neither registerItems nor registerBlocks contain nulls

L755[13:08:26] <howtonotwin> 2) ObjectHolder on a class defines the resource domain for all contained ObjectHolder fields

L756[13:08:38] <howtonotwin> 2a) therefore the MODID on the item annot is redundant

L757[13:08:52] <howtonotwin> 3) Missing ObjectHolder on the block, if that's what you were going for

L758[13:09:13] <BlueMonster> the well https://github.com/cpw/simplepower/blob/master/src/main/java/cpw/mods/simplepower/Objects.java#L39

L759[13:10:21] <howtonotwin> 4) All I see is registration code that's mostly ok. I have no idea what the constructors are doing and that's probably where the problem is.

L760[13:11:14] <Ordinastie> BlueMonster, there is no point in using ObjectHolder for your own objects

L761[13:11:20] <Ordinastie> just set the field yourself

L762[13:11:32] <BlueMonster> constructors: https://gist.github.com/bluemonster122/afb9543c883ebd4ef0f5b69152b16e97

L763[13:11:51] <howtonotwin> well ofc the itemblock constructor will fail

L764[13:12:05] <howtonotwin> the block has no annot therefore it remains null forever

L765[13:12:07] <howtonotwin> :P

L766[13:12:47] <BlueMonster> but it works for simplepower

L767[13:13:46] <Ordinastie> don't use the annotion for your own objects

L768[13:13:52] <BlueMonster> why not?

L769[13:13:56] <Shambling> well looking at the logs it looks like a problem with tinkers config versus client config, even though they are the exact same

L770[13:13:57] <Ordinastie> that's dumb and pointless

L771[13:14:25] <howtonotwin> Anyway I'm gone :P

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L773[13:14:28] <BlueMonster> so what do use it for then?

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L775[13:17:59] <Ordinastie> to get objects from other mods

L776[13:18:12] <Ordinastie> just set your field manually

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L781[13:25:52] <Tank2333> Hello, does anybody know wich mod adds a visual overlay that displays minecarts? it renders the borders of the models through the walls

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L784[13:26:20] <Tank2333> i have the modpack "all the mods lite" installed

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L788[13:42:33] <Mr_Rockers> ghz|afk I managed to make my own event by calling a custom entity at the end of the standard block break event. The entity then detects when the block has been broken and posts the custom event before disabling itself.

L789[13:42:42] <Mr_Rockers> A bit hacky though.

L790[13:45:08] <shadowfacts> is there any way of preventing water from slowing the player down (movement-wise)?

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L802[14:09:09] <BlueMonster> that moment when you realize you forgot to tie the tile to the block

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L806[14:10:49] <TechnicianLP> why is my event not being triggered? oh i forgot the annotation ...

L807[14:11:00] <TechnicianLP> theres a lot of stuff that can happen

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L813[14:42:42] <Inusua1Z> What is the difference between Localized and Unlocalized name?

L814[14:42:57] <ghz|afk> the "unlocalized name" is really the translation key

L815[14:43:15] <ghz|afk> it's used to look up the proper name in the translation table

L816[14:43:19] <ghz|afk> it has a form like

L817[14:43:25] <ghz|afk> "item.modname.itemname.name"

L818[14:43:33] <ghz|afk> like "item.yourmod.youritem.name=Your Item"

L819[14:43:34] <TechnicianLP> anyone got an idea why this is happening ? : http://imgur.com/w5rRyjr

L820[14:43:57] <ghz|afk> so when you call setUnlocalizedName, you should do it with setUnlocalizedName(MODID + "." + itemName)

L821[14:43:59] <ghz|afk> same for blocks

L822[14:44:12] <Inusua1Z> Ohh okay

L823[14:44:32] <ghz|afk> the reason you want the modid in it

L824[14:44:40] <ghz|afk> is because there's a global translation table

L825[14:44:43] <ghz|afk> it's not separate per mod

L826[14:44:51] <Inusua1Z> yeah, I know that part :)

L827[14:44:54] <diesieben07> TechnicianLP, if you are drawing text in RGOE you need to re-bind the GUI texture

L828[14:44:56] <Inusua1Z> Thanks :)

L829[14:45:03] <diesieben07> otehrwise the rest of the GUI will draw with the font texture

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L831[14:45:30] <TechnicianLP> that would explain it ...

L832[14:45:49] <diesieben07> the GUI texture being Gui.ICONS

L833[14:46:35] <williewillus> !gm isVisuallyOpaque

L834[14:48:36] <TechnicianLP> ok after the foodbar being green i reset color as well and now it looks fine

L835[14:51:04] <williewillus> !gm func_77043_a

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L840[15:07:59] <kashike> williewillus: I just spent over a minute trying to tab commplete your name in a channel you aren't in.

L841[15:08:00] <kashike> lol

L842[15:08:17] <williewillus> what channel lol

L843[15:08:25] <kashike> #mcpbot :P

L844[15:13:16] <ghz|afk> hmmm can items be translucent somehow? XD

L845[15:13:42] <williewillus> what do you mean?

L846[15:13:53] <williewillus> they already kindof are

L847[15:14:05] <ghz|afk> I mean I'd really like this texture to alpha blend

L848[15:14:08] <ghz|afk> ;P

L849[15:14:22] <ghz|afk> although I have another issue I have to solve first

L850[15:14:35] <ghz|afk> for some retarded reason, it draws in the wrong order

L851[15:14:38] <ghz|afk> (.OBJ model)

L852[15:15:21] <ghz|afk> okay nevermind

L853[15:15:22] <ghz|afk> it does work

L854[15:15:33] <ghz|afk> making it 00_Object1, 01_Object2 etc

L855[15:15:41] <ghz|afk> helped it draw in the right order XD

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L857[15:16:11] <TechnicianLP> why does minecraft keep my mouse when suspended?

L858[15:16:24] <ghz|afk> linux?

L859[15:16:30] <TechnicianLP> yes

L860[15:16:40] <ghz|afk> probably because the way mouse capture works is broken

L861[15:16:46] <ghz|afk> not 100% sure though

L862[15:17:05] <ghz|afk> in windows, if a window stops being in the foreground, it automatically loses all input captures

L863[15:17:19] <ghz|afk> that's not true in other platforms ;p

L864[15:17:22] <ghz|afk> williewillus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/2016-10-23_22.16.29.png

L865[15:17:36] <ghz|afk> the front cover text is a separate quad

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L867[15:17:52] <ghz|afk> but it was drawing first, so the book was invisible behind the not-quite-transparent text

L868[15:17:53] <williewillus> nice

L869[15:17:59] <williewillus> how do you generate the text?

L870[15:18:03] <ghz|afk> it's not generated

L871[15:18:07] <ghz|afk> this is a .png file

L872[15:18:09] <williewillus> oh lol

L873[15:18:34] <ghz|afk> the plan is to later use a custom model, and let the book .xml resource define the cover image resloc

L874[15:18:56] <ghz|afk> or maybe I could have that on the NBT...

L875[15:19:11] <ghz|afk> this way the xml is only loaded when the GUI opens

L876[15:19:54] <ghz|afk> as in... guidebook:guidebook 1 0 {Book:"modname:bookresource.xml",Cover:"modname:covername"}

L877[15:20:48] <ghz|afk> and now comes the annoying part.

L878[15:20:59] <ghz|afk> I fixed the UV map on the item model

L879[15:21:08] <ghz|afk> but I have a whole separate set of models for the GUI animation

L880[15:21:24] <ghz|afk> and it will be annoying to fix the UV map on each one of them ;P

L881[15:22:09] <ghz|afk> unless I can somehow map the UVs from the item model into the big models

L882[15:22:36] <ghz|afk> or I may give up and recreate the entire thing based on a non-broken model XD

L883[15:22:44] <williewillus> #1 mystery of the mc codebase for me: what do each of the billion is<X>Cube methods on block do and why are they separate

L884[15:22:59] <howtonotwin> Answer: Mojang.

L885[15:23:02] <howtonotwin> :P

L886[15:23:10] <ghz|afk> that mistery would probably be less misterious if mojang stopped obfuscating ¬¬

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L888[15:24:47] <williewillus> last time i checked it was isFullCube, isOpaqueCube, isFullyOpaque, isVisuallyOpaque, and isNormalCube

L889[15:24:50] <williewillus> oh wait

L890[15:25:00] <williewillus> don't forget is*Block*NormalCube lol

L891[15:25:28] <ghz|afk> my guess is the mojang functions are like

L892[15:25:34] <TechnicianLP> is the damage-float passed into a livinghurtevent always a multiple of 0.5? (half a heart)

L893[15:25:34] <ghz|afk> shouldDrawX

L894[15:25:36] <ghz|afk> shouldDrawY

L895[15:25:39] <ghz|afk> shouldShowZ

L896[15:25:44] <quadraxis> don't forget isFullBlock()

L897[15:25:54] <ghz|afk> rather than "isfull" or "isnormal"

L898[15:26:05] <howtonotwin> would EntityLivingBase::knockBack be better named knockAwayFrom?

L899[15:26:13] <williewillus> meh

L900[15:26:15] <williewillus> knockback seems fine

L901[15:26:18] <howtonotwin> I say this because its parameters are negated

L902[15:26:25] <williewillus> also since when did we have a side-sensitive solid method? Block.isBlockSolid takes side but we still have forge's isSideSolid

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L904[15:27:10] <williewillus> actually it doesn't seem to be well named

L905[15:27:12] <williewillus> as always

L906[15:27:20] <williewillus> only liquids and ice use it

L907[15:29:14] <ghz|afk> I have no idea what it really does

L908[15:29:52] <ghz|afk> but it's NOT checking if a side is solid.

L909[15:31:33] <ghz|afk> if the material matches, false? -- how does that even work?

L910[15:31:51] <ghz|afk> else if the side is up, then true? -- that makes even less sense

L911[15:32:02] <ghz|afk> else if the material is ice? -- yeah I'm lost

L912[15:32:15] <williewillus> it's to calculate the flow vectors for liquids

L913[15:32:20] <ghz|afk> OH

L914[15:32:24] <ghz|afk> the pos given isn't its own pos

L915[15:32:39] <ghz|afk> it's the "other" pos

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L917[15:36:19] <ghz|afk> hmmm

L918[15:36:26] <ghz|afk> enchanted books should make their effect by themselves

L919[15:36:36] <ghz|afk> I'd love to punch a zombie with a smite book

L920[15:36:40] <ghz|afk> and have it do extra damage

L921[15:36:40] <ghz|afk> XD

L922[15:37:20] <ghz|afk> oooh, or the effect should apply while they are in your offhand

L923[15:37:53] <ghz|afk> now I need to add "open books" to one of my mods

L924[15:38:04] <ghz|afk> so that you hold them open ready to read

L925[15:38:05] <ghz|afk> ;p

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L931[15:42:24] <wundrweapon> http://pastebin.com/CndMHu4N

L932[15:42:29] <wundrweapon> the issue is described there

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L934[15:44:49] <Ordinastie> use your debugger ?

L935[15:45:15] <wundrweapon> I cant get it to work right

L936[15:45:28] <wundrweapon> never had to use it so its too foreign for me to just up and use

L937[15:45:41] <Ordinastie> you can't code without it

L938[15:45:42] <howtonotwin> I see bytes being used for local vars and will simply say that that's utterly useless, if not slower than normal. :P

L939[15:45:50] <howtonotwin> but yes, debuggers are important.

L940[15:46:11] <wundrweapon> @how the idea was to save 3 bytes of data per var. dont see how thats slowly

L941[15:46:13] <wundrweapon> slower*

L942[15:46:25] <howtonotwin> bc JVM doesn't work that way :P

L943[15:46:30] <howtonotwin> if you have byte b;

L944[15:46:34] <howtonotwin> and you do b = b + 1

L945[15:46:38] <LexManos> !gm dropBlockAsItem

L946[15:46:46] <howtonotwin> you'll find that b is promoted to int

L947[15:46:50] <howtonotwin> has 1 added to it

L948[15:46:58] <howtonotwin> then gets truncated back down

L949[15:47:11] <howtonotwin> and this is Java :P

L950[15:47:17] <howtonotwin> 3 bytes per local var = nothing

L951[15:47:26] <wundrweapon> that's because 1 is an int

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L953[15:47:57] <wundrweapon> however, if you define 1 as a byte elsewhere then do b=b+a then it wont do that

L954[15:48:01] <Ordinastie> knowing how to use a debugger is necessary and indispensable

L955[15:48:01] <wundrweapon> if i', not mistaken

L956[15:48:12] <wundrweapon> @ordin looking over it now

L957[15:48:20] <Ordinastie> that's what answer the question "why this doesn't work?"

L958[15:48:46] <IoP> ;(

L959[15:49:11] <IoP> Weird. How is that TheRealSlimBilly bot configured to be triggred...?

L960[15:51:49] <howtonotwin> woops, b = b + 1; if b is a byte doesn't even compile xD

L961[15:52:10] <howtonotwin> and same is true for byte a, b, c; c = a + b

L962[15:52:58] <howtonotwin> as the type of an addition expression is always one of int, long, float, or double iirc.

L963[15:53:44] <wundrweapon> hm

L964[15:53:51] <wundrweapon> that's odd

L965[15:53:54] <wundrweapon> then again... Java

L966[15:55:21] <quadraxis> where are these <32-bit JVM's we're apparently optimising for?

L967[15:55:32] <howtonotwin> the only reason things like byte b; b += 5; b++; work is because iirc the jls states explicitly that they are interpreted as if there was a cast involved.

L968[15:56:18] <diesieben07> wundrweapon, what you are saying is true for the bytecode. which in "hot code" never matters.

L969[15:56:29] <diesieben07> i am pretty sure the JIT would optimize those conversions away

L970[15:56:33] <howtonotwin> you mean me?

L971[15:56:40] <diesieben07> no.

L972[15:56:48] <diesieben07> wundr said something about the conversions

L973[15:57:18] <diesieben07> but yeah... use ints.

L974[15:57:30] <Ordinastie> I'm not sure the code in a recipe would ever be JITed anyway

L975[15:57:49] <diesieben07> oh it's called quite often :P

L976[15:58:42] <Ordinastie> only when slot changes, right ?

L977[15:59:33] <Ordinastie> even called each tick, it would take half an hour :p

L978[15:59:54] <diesieben07> wat

L979[16:00:21] <Ordinastie> don't it need to be ran at least 10k before JIT is involved ?

L980[16:00:35] <diesieben07> it depends...

L981[16:00:42] <diesieben07> but that number seems high

L982[16:00:45] <howtonotwin> Who in their right mind keeps a crafting GUI open long enough to convince the JIT to optimize it in any form :P?

L983[16:01:04] <wundrweapon> w h a t h a v e i s t a r t e d

L984[16:01:36] <howtonotwin> You've started the summoning of Cthulhu :D

L985[16:01:45] <wundrweapon> yay :D

L986[16:02:06] <Ordinastie> diesieben07, I think that's what I read somewhere, but considering my memory, if you say it's lower, you're probably right :p

L987[16:02:16] <diesieben07> i don't know either :P

L988[16:02:22] <howtonotwin> OR, it's the beginning of Asimov's chronoscope-goldfish-bowl scenario.

L989[16:02:26] <howtonotwin> idk which one is worse

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L996[16:20:33] <ghz|afk> finally, this took longer than I hoped

L997[16:20:34] <ghz|afk> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/MC/2016-10-23-2320-02.mp4

L998[16:20:46] <ghz|afk> and I still didn't apply the cover image to the animated background

L999[16:20:51] <ghz|afk> but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort

L1000[16:21:04] <ghz|afk> it's really not visible enough

L1001[16:21:41] <ghz|afk> so next step: make the cover image configurable, along with the stack name

L1002[16:22:48] <TechnicianLP> that thing opening is just epic

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L1006[16:31:07] <diesieben07> ghz|afk, no page flip animation? i are disappoint.

L1007[16:31:19] <ghz|afk> soon(tm)

L1008[16:31:21] <ghz|afk> ;P

L1009[16:31:32] <ghz|afk> I plan on having page-flip before I release this as a library-mod

L1010[16:31:43] <diesieben07> :)

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L1013[16:41:48] <ghz|afk> hmf

L1014[16:42:03] <ghz|afk> how does forge pass on the transforms into the IModels?

L1015[16:42:36] <howtonotwin> IModel::bake

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L1017[16:42:38] <ghz|afk> oh wait I see, in the IModelState

L1018[16:42:50] <ghz|afk> how do I apply the transforms, though? XD

L1019[16:42:51] <howtonotwin> TRSRTrans is an IModelState

L1020[16:43:01] <howtonotwin> apply(Optional.absent()) iirc

L1021[16:43:17] <howtonotwin> that's how you should do it

L1022[16:43:25] <howtonotwin> as that works for all IModelState

L1023[16:43:41] <howtonotwin> and you want to *apply* the transforms?

L1024[16:43:48] <ghz|afk> well I mean

L1025[16:43:49] <howtonotwin> well that's just math :P

L1026[16:44:01] <ghz|afk> the IBakedModel normally has the getItemCameraTransforms

L1027[16:44:14] <ghz|afk> but I suppose I'll want to be IPerspectiveAwareModel?

L1028[16:44:17] <howtonotwin> IPerspectiveAwareModel replaces that yes

L1029[16:49:44] <ghz|afk> nevermind, I didn't even need that myself -- I just need to pass it along to the inner model ;P

L1030[16:51:24] <howtonotwin> what exactly are you doing?

L1031[16:51:32] <ghz|afk> [23:21] (ghz|afk): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/MC/2016-10-23-2320-02.mp4

L1032[16:51:34] <ghz|afk> see that book item

L1033[16:51:47] <ghz|afk> the cover graphic is meant to be configurable

L1034[16:52:12] <ghz|afk> so I made the stacks have a "Cover" NBT tag with a resloc of the texture to use

L1035[16:52:20] <ghz|afk> and I used a custom model

L1036[16:52:26] <ghz|afk> that parses that tag in ItemOverrideList

L1037[16:52:44] <ghz|afk> and returns the actual model, but with the cover texture swapped with the one in the NBT

L1038[16:53:14] <ghz|afk> or well, that's the idea, it doesn't quite work just yet

L1039[16:53:19] <ghz|afk> the replacement isn't being applied ;P

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L1041[16:54:51] <howtonotwin> ah

L1042[16:55:41] <howtonotwin> but how will the textures be loaded?

L1043[16:56:21] <ghz|afk> that is a concern for another day ;P

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L1045[16:57:09] <ghz|afk> I'll probably have a config section to "force load textures"

L1046[16:57:17] <ghz|afk> for user-defined books

L1047[16:57:42] <ghz|afk> and I'll probably just require mods that use this as a dependency to request dependant textures themselves

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L1049[16:58:28] <ghz|afk> either that or I'll refactor this so that there's an actual "book registry"

L1050[16:58:37] <ghz|afk> and the models are all computed during load

L1051[16:58:40] <ghz|afk> rather than dynamically

L1052[16:58:51] <ghz|afk> in which case, the cover image would be in the .xml file

L1053[16:58:53] <kokolihapihvi> I just came here to say nope to what I said earlier. hi.

L1054[16:59:04] <ghz|afk> we don't remember what you said earlier so ;p

L1055[16:59:17] <kokolihapihvi> <kokolihapihvi> well I think I will still try look into the multithreading thing, it feels like it'll go way over my head but it's gonna be interesting

L1056[16:59:23] <ghz|afk> oh right

L1057[16:59:40] <ghz|afk> so you did look at it a bit, and gave up?

L1058[16:59:53] <kokolihapihvi> yep, as you predicted :p

L1059[17:03:17] <kokolihapihvi> the fact that everything expects a chunk to exist when querying for it... I don't even see how it would be possible to make all that work

L1060[17:03:37] <ghz|afk> yep fuck that, I'll make a book registry and pre-load the models during boot.

L1061[17:03:51] <ghz|afk> time for a new tag in the XML ;P

L1062[17:04:01] <ghz|afk> or hmm

L1063[17:04:05] <ghz|afk> attribute, in the top-level tag

L1064[17:04:11] <ghz|afk> hmm

L1065[17:04:12] <ghz|afk> what to do

L1066[17:04:21] <ghz|afk> <meta> section, or attributes on the top-level <book> tag

L1067[17:05:59] <Inusua1Z> Minecraft set the pos of a TileEntity automatic?

L1068[17:06:13] <ghz|afk> yes

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L1070[17:06:33] <ghz|afk> and it's saved in the NBT when you call super.writeToNBT

L1071[17:06:38] <ghz|afk> and read when you call super.readFromNBT

L1072[17:06:48] <ghz|afk> so make sure you do call super ;P

L1073[17:10:59] <ghz|afk> hmm yep confirmed: book registry is really really needed

L1074[17:11:09] <ghz|afk> since that way I can scan for <image> tags when I implement them

L1075[17:11:16] <ghz|afk> and add them to the dependencies ;p

L1076[17:14:49] <kokolihapihvi> what are you working on?

L1077[17:21:46] <ghz|afk> [23:21] (ghz|afk): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/MC/2016-10-23-2320-02.mp4

L1078[17:21:55] <ghz|afk> I created this a while ago for one of my mods

L1079[17:22:01] <ghz|afk> I'm turning it into a general-purpose library-mod

L1080[17:22:23] <Ordinastie> you should make it part of MalisisCore :D

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L1082[17:25:02] <Ivorius> lol

L1083[17:25:37] <kokolihapihvi> reinventing the wheel that one last time so nobody else has to? :p

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L1092[17:31:33] <masa> reinventing the wheel is what it's all about :p

L1093[17:32:09] <masa> anything that isn't in forge and I need I'm reinventing, and also some of the forge stuff too, mainly inventory things

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L1096[17:33:14] <masa> I just don't like external dependencies for my mods, then I would be at the mercy of the libs on when or if they will update to new MC versions

L1097[17:35:39] <ghz|afk> yeah

L1098[17:36:06] <ghz|afk> I already depend on other stuff though, so meh

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L1100[17:36:33] <ghz|afk> I just wish there was some sort of way to fetch deps over maven or similar

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L1105[17:51:41] <LexManos> at runtime thats never going to happen

L1106[17:51:46] <LexManos> at devtime, just use maven

L1107[17:53:08] <Ordinastie> why won't it happen at runtime ? technical impossiblity ? or just pratical improbability ?

L1108[17:53:48] <LexManos> p[ractically

L1109[17:53:52] <LexManos> and logically

L1110[17:53:58] <shadowfacts> because downloading code from untrusted servers and then executing it

L1111[17:54:41] <LexManos> Rather not get into this debate again, so just accept it. And anyone who trys to make it happen is a retard and should be shot.

L1112[17:58:17] <ghz|afk> yeah not going to try to do it myself -- I still wish it was possible though ;P

L1113[17:58:50] <ghz|afk> GEH i hate paying taxes.

L1114[17:59:04] <LexManos> ya...

L1115[17:59:24] <ghz|afk> thursday was the last day to do the electronic thingy for my freelancing stuff

L1116[17:59:49] <ghz|afk> and the service closed at 19:30 (yeah, online service with a schedule, fuck them)

L1117[18:00:06] <ghz|afk> it was 19:25, and my bank's service didn't work

L1118[18:00:18] <ghz|afk> so I tried in an alternative way, and it seemed to work

L1119[18:00:43] <ghz|afk> xcept now I haveto pay an extra fee for being late, because the bank didn't process the other request till friday

L1120[18:01:28] <ghz|afk> which means the amount to pay doesn't match up with the amount paid... so I'll have to messa round somehow

L1121[18:01:41] <ghz|afk> my fault for doing it on the last day

L1122[18:01:53] <ghz|afk> but still annoying

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L1135[18:44:02] <illy> beep o/

L1136[18:46:07] <kashike> boop \o

L1137[18:49:41] <Inusua1Z> anyone know if enderio use tesla?

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L1139[18:52:28] <AshIndigo> then get a big plot with fertilizer

L1140[18:53:43] <AshIndigo> just make a new world

L1141[18:53:46] <AshIndigo> oops

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L1152[19:15:12] <Beasty> Hi

L1153[19:16:06] <Beasty> This code is ging me a error: http://hastebin.com/bafijumilo.scala

L1154[19:16:18] <Beasty> Error: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 5

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L1157[19:18:13] <Beasty> ?

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L1166[19:56:06] <mezz> mipmapping PSA https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/591tlq/lets_talk_about_mipmapping/

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L1170[20:21:45] <MattDahEpic> what's the "right" I18n to use?

L1171[20:22:04] <Ordinastie> client one

L1172[20:22:11] <Ordinastie> there is no localization on servers

L1173[20:23:32] <MattDahEpic> well im getting reports of java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/client/resources/I18n from users

L1174[20:24:17] <Ordinastie> because you shouldn't be using it on servers

L1175[20:25:10] <MattDahEpic> hmmm, but i dont think im using it on the server

L1176[20:25:35] <Ordinastie> one of your classes references it apparently

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L1178[20:26:20] <MattDahEpic> o,h its the command running on both

L1179[20:34:18] <MattDahEpic> well, that's fixed. What's the best way to regenerate a chunk?

L1180[20:34:21] <LexManos> Well this guy can go screw himself... https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/591tlq/lets_talk_about_mipmapping/d94zp05/

L1181[20:34:58] <howtonotwin> Would someone like to check out and nitpick this branch of a branch of the Forge documentation? Only the diff between branch advanced-models and branch models is important rn. It isn't complete and it needs a page on ICustomModelLoader, followed by the lower level rendering stuff like Tessellator, VertexFormat, BakedQuad, and such. This will eventually be merged into my PR on the docs' repo.

L1182[20:34:58] <howtonotwin> https://github.com/howtonotwin/MCForgeDocumentation/compare/models...howtonotwin:advanced-models

L1183[20:35:26] * howtonotwin regrets posting that right after lex showed up.

L1184[20:35:27] <howtonotwin> :P

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L1202[21:45:25] <LexManos> !gc Stitcher

L1203[21:46:08] <LexManos> !gm expandAndAllocateSlot

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L1230[23:53:15] <MattDahEpic> how would one go about deleting chunks?

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L1232[23:57:23] <killjoy> set them to air?

L1233[23:57:30] <killjoy> or do you mean regenerate them?

L1234[23:57:39] <MattDahEpic> no, like trimming chunks

L1235[23:57:40] <Upthorn> MattDahEpic: probably using MCEdit

L1236[23:57:47] <MattDahEpic> just stright out remove them

L1237[23:57:56] <killjoy> The WorldBorder bukkit plugin can do it

L1238[23:57:58] <MattDahEpic> so people could generate them again later