OCLogs: 2016-10-16.log

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L11[01:16:08] <SatanicSanta> And fixed. Just needed to `gradle clean``

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L21[01:59:43] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20161016 mappings to Forge Maven.

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L33[02:07:13] <JustWhoAmI> Say my mod required hydrogen from mekanism. How do I do things with it in my mod? i.e. Is there an API for Mekanism that I can use?

L34[02:08:12] <JustWhoAmI> Do I just package this with my mod?: https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/tree/master/src/main/java/mekanism/api

L35[02:08:19] <JustWhoAmI> I don't think that would be good practice

L36[02:08:38] <JustWhoAmI> at the same time I do not see any maven repository I can just include in my build.gradle

L37[02:09:03] <JustWhoAmI> He does show IMC recipe integration: https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/wiki/IMC-based-recipe-integration

L38[02:09:28] <JustWhoAmI> but, I want to use a material from HIS mod, in a recipe for MY mod

L39[02:09:31] <JustWhoAmI> how would I do that?

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L43[02:30:25] <kenzierocks> if he doesn't upload API to maven

L44[02:30:37] <kenzierocks> include it in ... src/api i think

L45[02:30:54] <kenzierocks> FG will include it on your compile classpath but keep it out of your jar

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L70[04:43:05] <JustWhoAmI> @ kenzierocks then I will be able to use items from that mod?

L71[04:43:07] <JustWhoAmI> in my code

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L75[04:51:59] <TechnicianLP> you should be able to use items from other mods if you made sure they are loaded

L76[04:58:21] <JustWhoAmI> So like requiredAfter? TechnicianLP

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L81[05:11:33] <TechnicianLP> if you want a hard dependency yes; if you want it to be optional you need to check manually

L82[05:12:30] <TechnicianLP> and have a after:

L83[05:13:11] <JustWhoAmI> but then

L84[05:13:16] <JustWhoAmI> how would my code compile?

L85[05:13:29] <JustWhoAmI> I would be attempting to use something that isn't in my workspace

L86[05:14:34] <TechnicianLP> it has to be present at compiletime and if you make it optional it would not have be present when installed in an instance

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L106[06:45:27] <piousminion> So, I have no clue what I've done, but despite TPS being a solid 20, no machines function at all. It's like time is frozen, but the sun passes and mobs have AI. What can I do to debug this?

L107[06:46:07] <Ordinastie> server thread is probably crashed

L108[06:48:16] <piousminion> Ordinastie: seems to be fine according to Opis.

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L110[06:48:38] <Ordinastie> are you sure it checks the server and not the client ?

L111[06:48:42] <sham1> But is it fine according to logs

L112[06:49:12] <piousminion> Ordinastie: It says "Server Thread". no idea.

L113[06:50:45] <piousminion> I don't even know where to begin. I've already wiped one dimension and removed all forced chunk loaders.

L114[06:50:49] <Cuby96> hi there, im at 1.10.2 guys so no blaming today :P i went through that tutorial here: https://gist.github.com/WesCook/c9e282e49580588dd397350283e7e4e1 and i made it until the point where it says i should make a method public static void renderFluids with blockFluidOil.render(); but intellij says to me that it cant resolve the function render() what should i do to fix it?

L115[06:51:43] <Ordinastie> learn programming first probably

L116[06:51:53] <Roburrito> Where are you logging, pious?

L117[06:52:32] <sham1> It's so depressing to many people try to mod with no experience in programming

L118[06:52:42] <Cuby96> -.- srsly?

L119[06:53:09] <Ordinastie> what, you thought that was optional ?

L120[06:53:15] <Cuby96> i know how to do it but i find it weird that the method isnt recognized even though its public and from the same package

L121[06:53:40] <sham1> It blockFluidOil an instance variable?

L122[06:53:46] <piousminion> Roburrito: logging?

L123[06:54:01] <sham1> Also, if you knew how to do it, then you would not be asking

L124[06:54:08] <Ordinastie> it's like saying you know how to drive, you just can't find the steering wheel, while sitting in the trunk

L125[06:54:57] <Roburrito> org.apache.logging.log4j.Logger

L126[06:55:24] <Ordinastie> Roburrito, pretty sure he's not a modder, just a user

L127[06:55:27] <Cuby96> its of the type BlockFluidClassic which i made an instance in the Init class

L128[06:55:27] <Roburrito> Stupid question: Have you saved your files, Cuby

L129[06:55:52] <Cuby96> Roburrito i did

L130[06:58:52] <Cuby96> its an instance variable, i initialize the variable with the constructor of the function BlockFluidOil and if i want to put the method on the instance (the method from BlockFLuidOil called render) it just says can't resolve method

L131[06:59:01] <piousminion> Roburrito: I'm not a forge/mod dev. The logger isn't related to my issue.

L132[06:59:44] <Roburrito> If it had outputs, it would be able to help find where you were frozen.

L133[07:00:09] <Cuby96> even though its from the same package the method should be visible as its declared as public

L134[07:01:26] <Roburrito> Being a different package would just give you the option to import it, not throw an error with no suggetion.

L135[07:02:24] <Roburrito> In ModFluids, you are telling your INSTANCE of BlockFluidOil to render(), not the class itself?

L136[07:02:37] <Cuby96> yes exactly

L137[07:03:39] <Roburrito> So you have BlockFluidOil blockfluidoil and blockfluidoil.render() is saying 'not recognized' despite being a public method in BlockFluidOil

L138[07:04:19] <Roburrito> Troubleshoot with a public field? See if you can put in something else that you CAN see.

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L140[07:04:40] <Cuby96> well brb need to go eating lunch

L141[07:04:49] <Cuby96> and i will definately try that out

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L146[07:21:04] <piousminion> Any ideas at all guys? Just restarted client and server and logged in in the middle of nowhere. TPS at 20, no errors, energy won't pass between a creative and resonant energy cell. :(

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L149[07:21:42] <TechnicianLP> what type of wolrd is it?

L150[07:22:47] <Ordinastie> piousminion, do regular vanilla furnaces work ?

L151[07:23:49] <piousminion> Ordinastie: checking. TechnicianLP: Dim 0

L152[07:24:27] <piousminion> Ordinastie: nope. lol

L153[07:24:56] <Ordinastie> SSP ?

L154[07:24:59] <piousminion> SMP

L155[07:25:32] <piousminion> I operate the server. FYI./

L156[07:25:43] <Ordinastie> and if you make a single player world ?

L157[07:25:45] <TechnicianLP> do you have gamrules set?

L158[07:26:35] <piousminion> Ordinastie: Considering the problem happened suddenly after working a long time with no changes, SSP should work flawlessly.

L159[07:26:50] <piousminion> TechnicianLP: mobGriefing = False is all

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L163[07:30:05] <piousminion> Would loading the map in SSP have any positive outcome?

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L165[07:31:09] <TechnicianLP> did you do something befor it stopped working? what mods do you have installed?

L166[07:33:05] <piousminion> TechnicianLP: Nothing out of the ordinary. Tons of mods that have been working for months. Pastebining list now.

L167[07:33:41] <piousminion> TechnicianLP: http://ix.io/1wDZ

L168[07:34:57] <TechnicianLP> so no recent updates?

L169[07:35:06] <piousminion> TechnicianLP: none

L170[07:35:28] <piousminion> Most recent thing was dynmap a week ago, but I've removed that to rule it out.

L171[07:39:39] <TechnicianLP> everything orks except tileentities?

L172[07:40:09] <piousminion> Seems that way, yeah.

L173[07:40:21] <TechnicianLP> no clue ... could you send a log of the last start?

L174[07:41:20] <piousminion> TechnicianLP: fml-server-latest.log -> http://ix.io/1wE1

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L176[07:43:17] <Shambling> Where do mods generally check for minecraft version? I have a 1.9 mod that should run under 1.10.2, but it has a version checker that hard crashes it

L177[07:43:29] <Shambling> its source code only, so I'd imagine I can edit out that checker before trying to fix bugs

L178[07:44:26] <Shambling> I'll check the dev environments outside of the java classes in the meantime, but I need to get to work so I'll check back later

L179[07:45:15] <Shambling> yeah looks like the build.gradle file, I'll snag some edits and see if that helps.

L180[07:45:15] <piousminion> Shambling: couldn't you grep the source for "1.9"?

L181[07:48:38] <TechnicianLP> try running it without Bukkit

L182[07:48:46] <Shambling> alright so not a simple recompile with a different dev environment. I'll need to recode this project in places entirely as it uses old forge classes that have been deprecated

L183[07:48:58] <PaleoCrafter> Shambling, ForgeGradle automatically makes them depend on the MC version compiled against unless otherwise specified

L184[07:49:00] <Shambling> trying to build the 1.9 version of minetweakerrecipemaker lol

L185[07:49:08] <PaleoCrafter> it usually is defined in the @Mod stuff

L186[07:49:42] <piousminion> TechnicianLP: Will do now and report back.

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L188[07:52:37] <JustWhoAmI> How do I add a mod to my development environment? run/mods?

L189[07:52:49] <JustWhoAmI> drop it in run/mods?

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L192[07:57:36] <kokolihapihvi> hey howtonotwin

L193[07:57:55] <howtonotwin> o/

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L195[07:59:02] <sham1> Hello howtobasic

L196[07:59:17] * howtonotwin drowns sham1 in eggs

L197[07:59:53] <sham1> I made a shocking realisation today

L198[08:00:19] <sham1> There are people working on a new Fortran specification

L199[08:00:37] <sham1> And that is worrisome

L200[08:00:37] <howtonotwin> o_O

L201[08:00:39] <howtonotwin> link?

L202[08:01:07] <sham1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortran#Fortran_2015

L203[08:01:26] <sham1> It will probably be ready in 2018

L204[08:01:40] <howtonotwin> why...?

L205[08:02:18] <sham1> Speaking of programming languages, I just emerged a new gcc

L206[08:02:28] <sham1> 5.4.0

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L208[08:03:04] <sham1> Because I had 4.9 but it did not support C++14

L209[08:07:16] <ghz|afk> wtf

L210[08:07:28] <ghz|afk> I just went to the nether in my vanilla 1.11 snapshots playthrough

L211[08:07:41] <ghz|afk> I was attacked by skeletons and wither skeletons in the middle of nowhere

L212[08:07:49] <ghz|afk> I didn't think those spawned outside the fortresses :/

L213[08:08:05] <sham1> They might now

L214[08:08:14] <sham1> Also, my RES is broken

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L216[08:19:54] <piousminion> TechnicianLP: thank you for the "try without bukkit" tip that I honestly should have thought of myself. Apparently there was some bukkit-specific misconfiguration. wiping those configs fixed it. :)

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L218[08:21:14] <kokolihapihvi> howtonotwin: I'm in the process of converting to IModels, I copied the dynbucket code, do I still listen to onBake event and bake it there?

L219[08:21:31] <howtonotwin> no

L220[08:21:48] <howtonotwin> you assign the item the model and that will bake it

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L222[08:22:09] <howtonotwin> the way the bucket deals itemstack data is through ItemOverrideList

L223[08:22:29] <howtonotwin> in which it bakes itself when a certain liquid is requested

L224[08:22:56] <howtonotwin> I'll write a quick little thing about how the bucket works if you want

L225[08:23:33] <kokolihapihvi> could I do that for ores? I have a list of oredict names I have registered and need to bake a ping for

L226[08:24:08] <kokolihapihvi> but the thing is I only have one item that should change model according to NBT data

L227[08:24:30] <howtonotwin> yes, you'd just store the blockstate in the nbt and use it to get models and such

L228[08:24:35] <howtonotwin> time to get out notepad

L229[08:24:42] <howtonotwin> :P

L230[08:24:53] <kokolihapihvi> allright :p

L231[08:25:22] <TechnicianLP> ;)

L232[08:25:34] <sham1> Do you want to have your beefy self be also baked?

L233[08:26:07] <kokolihapihvi> I only require a good cooking ;)

L234[08:26:25] <sham1> Sure you do

L235[08:31:34] *** TTFT|Away is now known as TTFTCUTS

L236[08:35:29] <masa> ghz|afk: that is/was a bug in the snapshots

L237[08:36:23] <masa> apparently at some point most of the skeletons that spawned were regular skeletons instead of wither skeletons, and when they tried to fix that, they started spawning outside of the fortresses, or something like that

L238[08:36:52] <JustWhoAmI> ghz|afk, you here?

L239[08:36:57] <sham1> >inb4 "It's a feature now"

L240[08:45:41] <Cuby96> hmm i set to my BlockFluid a method witht he creative tab and it doesnt show ingame

L241[08:45:50] <Cuby96> *with the

L242[08:47:44] <howtonotwin> kokolihapihvi, should I paste the thing I wrote now?

L243[08:48:35] <kokolihapihvi> sure, I ended up googling the thing and been reading this to pass time: http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=37568.0

L244[08:49:11] <howtonotwin> http://pastebin.com/us2mpDUN

L245[08:50:39] <Cuby96> how do i make sure my fluid is in the right creative tab?

L246[08:50:56] <Cuby96> as BlockFluidClassic doesnt have a method called setCreativeTab

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L248[08:51:23] <kokolihapihvi> thanks, I'll give it a read and try to wrap my head around how the bucket works

L249[08:51:32] <howtonotwin> Cuby: yes it does?

L250[08:51:58] <howtonotwin> Block::setCreativeTab?

L251[08:52:08] <Cuby96> hmm, it doesnt appear ingame

L252[08:52:23] <howtonotwin> can you setblock it?

L253[08:53:22] <Cuby96> well i put inside my BlockFluid class setRegistryName, setUnlocalizedName and setCreativeTab

L254[08:53:41] <Cuby96> so for what do i need setBlock? to cast it as a Block or?

L255[08:54:25] <howtonotwin> no I mean ingame

L256[08:54:34] <Cuby96> ah ok

L257[08:54:38] <howtonotwin> /setblock ~ ~ ~ mod_id:registry_name

L258[08:54:42] <howtonotwin> did you register the block?

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L261[08:55:36] <kokolihapihvi> just to clarify, all this happens in load time? with the previous method I think it baked the model each time handleItemState was called

L262[08:55:40] <Cuby96> yes with GameRegistry.register(this)

L263[08:56:57] <howtonotwin> so you can use /setblock with it?

L264[08:57:03] <howtonotwin> koko: no

L265[08:57:12] <howtonotwin> when an item is rendered

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L267[08:57:38] <howtonotwin> then the override list is called upon to process the stack

L268[08:57:49] <howtonotwin> and it bakes up a new model on the fly

L269[08:58:19] <kokolihapihvi> ah, but it caches the already baked models, gotcha

L270[08:58:20] <Cuby96> hmm i cant use setblock it says there is no item from my modid

L271[08:59:08] <howtonotwin> pastebin code

L272[08:59:45] <Cuby96> ok just from the BlockFluid class or also the init class?

L273[08:59:56] <howtonotwin> both please

L274[09:00:02] <Cuby96> ok np

L275[09:01:30] <Cuby96> http://pastebin.com/5qth7nAi

L276[09:01:47] <Cuby96> i put both in it seperated with a comment

L277[09:02:56] <TechnicianLP> did you register the block?

L278[09:03:06] <howtonotwin> well it's in the constructor

L279[09:03:18] <howtonotwin> and the constructor is called too

L280[09:03:41] * TechnicianLP hides

L281[09:04:43] <howtonotwin> I will say that code structured like this will be a pain to maintain but I'm not here to complain

L282[09:04:52] <howtonotwin> rhyming, oh god the rhyming

L283[09:05:25] <Cuby96> :D

L284[09:05:27] <howtonotwin> when do you call FluidInit.register

L285[09:05:37] <Cuby96> in the main class

L286[09:05:44] <howtonotwin> may I see it?

L287[09:05:49] <Cuby96> sure

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L289[09:06:14] <Cuby96> http://pastebin.com/bSbf72HQ

L290[09:07:12] <howtonotwin> why does FluidInit extend your mod class?

L291[09:07:29] <howtonotwin> I'm not sure but that may or may not be borking something

L292[09:08:09] <howtonotwin> what was the error from /setblock ~ ~ ~ examplemod:oil again?

L293[09:08:16] <howtonotwin> btw you probably want to change the modid

L294[09:08:34] <Cuby96> my idea was to insert my creative_blocks CreativeTab so it can be used there

L295[09:08:39] <Cuby96> oh yeah i see i didnt change it

L296[09:09:02] <Cuby96> let me quickly check the error code

L297[09:09:22] <kokolihapihvi> howtonotwin: I'm seeing transform:"forge:default-item", can I use that in my models json?

L298[09:09:27] <howtonotwin> yes

L299[09:09:36] <howtonotwin> just means that it rotates and scales properly

L300[09:09:50] <howtonotwin> depending on whether it's in hand or in world and such

L301[09:09:53] <Cuby96> howtonotwin oh yeah i can do setblock

L302[09:10:04] <kokolihapihvi> ahh, I always thought it was weird that I had to include the default firstperson and thirdperson transforms for my items

L303[09:10:09] <Cuby96> but its not in the creativetab yet

L304[09:10:35] <howtonotwin> you also need to register the item model

L305[09:10:47] <howtonotwin> oh

L306[09:10:57] * howtonotwin is blind

L307[09:11:02] <Cuby96> np ^^

L308[09:11:04] <howtonotwin> you never register an ItemBlock

L309[09:11:13] <howtonotwin> you have to do that

L310[09:11:14] <Cuby96> oh? where

L311[09:11:22] <howtonotwin> but there's no reason to have an item for a block, is there?

L312[09:11:29] <howtonotwin> *fluid

L313[09:11:43] <Cuby96> well i want to have a bucket of that fluid

L314[09:11:49] <Cuby96> but that is after that

L315[09:12:06] <howtonotwin> buckets are all one item with nbt

L316[09:12:13] <howtonotwin> they have nothing to do with ItemBlock

L317[09:12:28] <howtonotwin> not quite sure how to make a bucket appear

L318[09:12:33] <Cuby96> how can i set the itemblock so it shows into my creativetab?

L319[09:12:40] <howtonotwin> no, no itemblock

L320[09:12:43] <howtonotwin> you know 1.7

L321[09:12:44] <howtonotwin> ?

L322[09:12:49] <Cuby96> yeah kinda

L323[09:12:56] <howtonotwin> where water had a literal item

L324[09:13:01] <Cuby96> yes

L325[09:13:03] <howtonotwin> that was basically a tile

L326[09:13:12] <howtonotwin> that's what an itemblock of your fluid will be

L327[09:13:19] <howtonotwin> it will not be a bucket

L328[09:13:28] <howtonotwin> and there will be no way to make it a bucket

L329[09:14:14] <Cuby96> okay so what would be the next step?

L330[09:14:49] <howtonotwin> that is verging on dragons for me (i.e. not sure)

L331[09:15:14] <howtonotwin> maybe see how BuildCraft does it

L332[09:15:20] <howtonotwin> if it does it at all

L333[09:15:48] <Cuby96> so if i got it right the liquid is a block right?

L334[09:15:57] <Cuby96> as its from BlockLiquidClassic

L335[09:16:19] <howtonotwin> yep

L336[09:17:06] <Cuby96> and BlockLiquidClassic can execute the method setCreativeTab right? so why doesnt it show then?

L337[09:17:26] <howtonotwin> bc there's no item

L338[09:17:41] <howtonotwin> item being the 1.7-esqu tile of water

L339[09:17:51] <howtonotwin> block in world != block in inventory

L340[09:18:00] <howtonotwin> because a block in inventory is not actually a block

L341[09:18:06] <howtonotwin> it's an ItemBlock

L342[09:18:21] <kokolihapihvi> is the forgebucket a model with a json or a dummy that somehow maps to the model to be baked?

L343[09:18:37] <howtonotwin> see ModelLoaderRegistry.getModel

L344[09:18:37] <Cuby96> so i should cast it as an itemblock then and then set the creativetab?

L345[09:18:40] <howtonotwin> no

L346[09:18:52] <howtonotwin> ItemBlock extends Item with field block of type Block

L347[09:19:06] <howtonotwin> it is almost totally unrelated to blocks

L348[09:19:36] <howtonotwin> https://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blocks/blocks/#registering-a-block

L349[09:19:42] <howtonotwin> read the big notes

L350[09:20:25] <howtonotwin> koko: see ModelLoaderRegistry.getModel

L351[09:20:40] <howtonotwin> it loops through all registered model loaders

L352[09:20:49] <howtonotwin> and asks each if it wants to load the given RL

L353[09:21:08] <howtonotwin> vanilla and forge JSONs are just the two fallbacks at the bottom

L354[09:21:13] <howtonotwin> Vanilla/VariantLoader

L355[09:21:21] <howtonotwin> for models/* and blockstates/ respectively

L356[09:21:45] <howtonotwin> LoaderDynBucket is a registered model loader

L357[09:21:55] <howtonotwin> when it gets a RL

L358[09:22:03] <kokolihapihvi> I see

L359[09:22:08] <howtonotwin> of the form forge:x where x.contains("forgebucket")

L360[09:22:23] <howtonotwin> then it volunteers to "load" the model

L361[09:22:32] <Cuby96> so as far as i read the important tab on the link you sent a liquid doesnt have that ItemBlock hybrid thingy

L362[09:22:36] <howtonotwin> but it doesn't do any loading

L363[09:22:38] <howtonotwin> yes

L364[09:22:46] <Cuby96> hmm

L365[09:22:54] <howtonotwin> it just returns a static final model with no texture

L366[09:23:19] <Cuby96> so i cant basically hold the fluid itself inside my inventory right?

L367[09:23:25] <howtonotwin> no

L368[09:23:29] <Cuby96> ah got it

L369[09:23:32] <howtonotwin> I mean you're right

L370[09:23:33] <howtonotwin> :P

L371[09:23:43] <Cuby96> ^^

L372[09:24:14] <Cuby96> so in order to use that fluid i need to either make setblock or "spawn" that liquid block via a bucket or other stuff right?

L373[09:24:42] <howtonotwin> yep

L374[09:24:51] <Cuby96> ok understood now

L375[09:25:13] <howtonotwin> meanwhile I better get going

L376[09:25:16] <howtonotwin> good luck

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L378[09:25:27] <Cuby96> thank you and have a nice day

L379[09:52:39] <LatvianModder> a reminder that buckets once looked like this.. http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/feed-the-beast/images/5/52/Bucket.png/revision/latest?cb=20130214160927

L380[09:53:01] <JustWhoAmI> How do I make a hard dependency in my mod annotation?

L381[09:55:22] <LatvianModder> dependencies="required-after:modid"

L382[09:55:41] <LatvianModder> for multiple, "required-after:modid1;required-after:modid2"

L383[09:56:49] <JustWhoAmI> Is there a way to specify the version of the mod?

L384[09:57:03] <JustWhoAmI> @ LatvianModder

L385[09:57:18] <sham1> Just FYI

L386[09:57:19] <LatvianModder> not sure, but probably with []

L387[09:57:30] <sham1> You don't need the @-sign when you ping someone

L388[09:57:36] <sham1> This is not Twitter

L389[09:57:58] <JustWhoAmI> Sorry

L390[09:58:05] <sham1> No need to be sorry

L391[09:58:05] <LatvianModder> You mean "This is IRC" because every other chat app does that

L392[09:58:09] <sham1> I just wanted to point it out

L393[09:58:21] <ghz|afk> you do

L394[09:58:26] <sham1> Well that's because they took it from twitter

L395[09:58:30] <ghz|afk> after:modid@[v1,v2]

L396[09:58:32] <ghz|afk> or similar

L397[09:58:40] <ghz|afk> () for exclusive

L398[09:58:41] <LatvianModder> required-after:Forge@[12.18.0.1999,)

L399[09:58:43] <ghz|afk> []for inclusive

L400[09:58:58] <sham1> Speaking of IRC, have any of you tried Matrix yet

L401[09:59:23] <LatvianModder> The movie? Yeah its good

L402[09:59:27] <fry> ^

L403[09:59:30] <sham1> ...

L404[09:59:38] <sham1> It is good

L405[09:59:41] <sham1> But it is irrelevant now

L406[09:59:45] <sham1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(communication_protocol)

L407[09:59:50] <sham1> That is what I meant

L408[10:00:01] <LatvianModder> why everything has to be named matrix

L409[10:00:07] <LatvianModder> why dont just invent new words :P

L410[10:00:09] <sham1> I know right

L411[10:00:19] <sham1> Even the things in mathematics ripped off the movie

L412[10:00:19] <LatvianModder> or borrow from Latin, like 99% of English words :P

L413[10:00:28] <sham1> More like 60%

L414[10:00:48] <LatvianModder> Right? It is well known that the movie came out more than 1000 years ago

L415[10:00:54] <LatvianModder> we just didnt have the technology to display it

L416[10:01:13] <sham1> And to be fair, a lot of European languages have borrowed from Latin

L417[10:01:31] <LatvianModder> From English/German

L418[10:01:43] <sham1> I can guarantee that

L419[10:01:45] <LatvianModder> German from English. And English from Latin

L420[10:01:52] <sham1> Wat

L421[10:02:08] <sham1> First of all, English has also borrowed from German

L422[10:02:21] <sham1> And German has also borrowed from Latin

L423[10:02:23] <LatvianModder> At least modern German. If you speak English, you pretty much speak German, because all of the nouns are copy-paste English words :P

L424[10:03:22] <LatvianModder> How did Latin have so many new words? Did they just look at things and name them?

L425[10:04:08] <sham1> Because Romans conquered basically all parts of Europe that mattered

L426[10:04:14] <PaleoCrafter> it evolved from indo european :P

L427[10:04:21] <sham1> Proto-Indo-European

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L429[10:04:30] <sham1> There never was a language called "Indo-European"

L430[10:04:56] <PaleoCrafter> I'm mainly playing OW right now, no time for correct terms :P

L431[10:05:33] <sham1> Also, as far as your statement "<LatvianModder> At least modern German. If you speak English, you pretty much speak German, because all of the nouns are copy-paste English words :P" DAS IST NICHT RECHT!

L432[10:05:43] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, it isn't xD

L433[10:05:44] <LatvianModder> Also who's genius idea was to name servers "Clouds"? Good thing we dont translate english terms, otherwise we'd laugh all the time at IT. Must be horrible to think in English nativly and see computer terms...

L434[10:06:25] <sham1> It's also what my German teacher used to say to me when I tried to learn German

L435[10:07:48] <PaleoCrafter> LatvianModder, it's not like you can think of a word to mean different things in different contexts :P

L436[10:08:07] <sham1> Meanwhile here people have this tendency of translating a lot of computer vocab

L437[10:08:11] <JustWhoAmI> ghz|afk, so using square brackets means that only those versions will work?

L438[10:08:42] <sham1> It annoys me when people start talking about stuff like "perintä" when they talk about inheritance in the context of OOP

L439[10:08:52] <sham1> Like it is the correct word and translation, but still

L440[10:09:04] <kokolihapihvi> ^

L441[10:09:17] <JustWhoAmI> that sounds like something from Narcos

L442[10:09:45] <PaleoCrafter> translating inheritance is fine, imo

L443[10:10:11] <kokolihapihvi> shami doesn't like "olio-ohjelmointi"? ;)

L444[10:10:24] <LatvianModder> Poor sham1 "tendency of translating a lot of computer vocab"

L445[10:10:42] <sham1> Thanks for being able to remind me of that shit Mr. Beef

L446[10:10:53] <sham1> Also, the last character is 1

L447[10:10:54] <kokolihapihvi> any time!

L448[10:10:57] <sham1> As in the number 1

L449[10:11:05] <sham1> Wait

L450[10:11:11] <sham1> You said 1 instead of i

L451[10:11:15] <sham1> The hell is this font

L452[10:11:22] <ghz|afk> JustWhoAmI: if you say [1.1,1.2] it will work with both 1.1 and 1.2, and anything in between

L453[10:11:23] <sham1> Wait no

L454[10:11:24] <ghz|afk> but if you say

L455[10:12:05] <kokolihapihvi> yeah I kinda wrote it assuming it was actually "Sami", I need to start using tab when typing usernames

L456[10:12:17] <ghz|afk> [1.1.0,1.2.0)

L457[10:12:26] <sham1> Nah, my name is in no way related to my real name

L458[10:12:30] <ghz|afk> it will work with like, 1.1.9999, but the moment it gets to 1.2.0, it will be rejected

L459[10:13:11] <kokolihapihvi> yeah but you know, when you think of a similiar word while typing your brain get confused and implodes...or something like that

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L461[10:13:55] <sham1> Point taken

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L465[10:20:18] <Cuby96> i add for my fluid the addBucketForFluid method. how can i have access to that item?

L466[10:20:34] <sham1> What?

L467[10:20:52] <Cuby96> https://gist.github.com/WesCook/c9e282e49580588dd397350283e7e4e1 the part which says universal bucket

L468[10:20:54] <PaleoCrafter> JustWhoAmI, in addition to what ghz|afk said, note that a range of the format [1.1.0,) will accept any version equal to or above 1.1.0

L469[10:21:13] <Cuby96> FluidRegistry.addBucketForFluid(this)

L470[10:21:41] <PaleoCrafter> if the universal bucket is enabled, Cuby96, you'll find the bucket with your fluid under the miscellaneous tab

L471[10:22:11] <JustWhoAmI> ghz|afk, PaleoCrafter, but doesn't this all rely on semantic versioning? What if someone has an alphabet versioning system, or follows a two numeral system (1.0,1.2 etc)

L472[10:22:19] <Cuby96> PaleoCrafter and can i put it in another tab or is it fixed to misc?

L473[10:22:36] <PaleoCrafter> the bucket Forge provides is fixed to misc

L474[10:22:46] <PaleoCrafter> you can add the item to your own tab as well, though

L475[10:23:20] <Cuby96> how is this done or else asked: how can i have access to that forge bucket?

L476[10:23:29] <PaleoCrafter> JustWhoAmI, it splits the version by potential separators (., +, - etc.) and sorts from left to right

L477[10:23:39] <JustWhoAmI> right

L478[10:23:42] <JustWhoAmI> thanks :)

L479[10:24:16] <PaleoCrafter> in fact, it only splist on dots and dashes

L480[10:25:18] <Cuby96> PaleoCrafter is there a constant or a method how i can have access to that internal forge bucket thingy?

L481[10:26:28] <PaleoCrafter> ForgeModContainer.getInstance().universalBucket

L482[10:26:47] <Cuby96> thanks :)

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L485[10:28:56] <Cuby96> and i guess the bucket with my custom liquid is based on its metadata? PaleoCrafter

L486[10:29:08] <PaleoCrafter> the fluid data is stored in NBT

L487[10:29:30] <PaleoCrafter> you can get a filled bucket via UniversalBucket.getFilledBucket

L488[10:30:26] <Cuby96> ah i see, and based on my registerfluid i guess its saved by the name its saved in my fluid registry right?

L489[10:32:05] <PaleoCrafter> wat

L490[10:32:38] <Cuby96> how do i get a specific fluid on the bucket, is it via the name i gave my fluid after registering it?

L491[10:32:51] <kokolihapihvi> I'm having trouble trying to make my item work with my version of ModelDynBucket

L492[10:32:54] <PaleoCrafter> look at the types of getfilledBucket

L493[10:34:01] <kokolihapihvi> I do ModelLoader.setCustomMeshDefinition and ModelBakery.registerItemVariants just like ModelDynBucket does, but I still see some stuff about variants in ModelLoader that I have no idea how to replicate

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L497[10:36:03] <howtonotwin> I don't recall either of those methods in ModelDynBucket...

L498[10:37:37] <kokolihapihvi> ModelLoader.setBucketModelDefinition

L499[10:37:54] <kokolihapihvi> I'm on the recommended forge version for MC1.8.9

L500[10:38:44] <kokolihapihvi> also ItemOverrideList didn't exist for me

L501[10:38:46] <PaleoCrafter> y u do dis

L502[10:38:51] <PaleoCrafter> y u no 1.10.2

L503[10:39:12] <kokolihapihvi> I'm gonna progressively do 1.8.9 1.9 and then that

L504[10:39:22] <PaleoCrafter> why would you?

L505[10:39:31] <ghz|afk> so you'll do all the intermediate unnecessary work ;P

L506[10:39:50] <howtonotwin> 1.8.9?

L507[10:39:52] <howtonotwin> explains it

L508[10:39:56] <kokolihapihvi> just to have the mod on those versions, thats why :/

L509[10:40:19] <howtonotwin> ItemOverrideList was split off from ISmartBlock/ItemModel

L510[10:41:36] <kokolihapihvi> so should I just skip 1.8.9 and tell people it's not worth the hassle?

L511[10:42:43] <howtonotwin> There's no point in being in the interval (1.7.10, 1.10.2), yes

L512[10:42:54] <howtonotwin> other than pain of port

L513[10:42:54] <howtonotwin> :P

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L515[10:46:35] <kokolihapihvi> well, I do have that 1.7.10 forced to work on 1.8.9 version up on curse, let's just say thats enough for that version

L516[10:46:45] <kokolihapihvi> I'll take a break and then get to doing this in 1.10.2

L517[10:48:12] <BordListian> do registry names need to be truly unique?

L518[10:48:24] <howtonotwin> unique within the registry yes

L519[10:48:24] <JustWhoAmI> okay this is very odd

L520[10:48:28] <JustWhoAmI> mekanism's api

L521[10:48:36] <BordListian> getting a weird thing where another mod is registering betterwithaddons:material

L522[10:48:45] <JustWhoAmI> it tries to import files from a package called mekanism.common

L523[10:48:49] <BordListian> even though that never happened before

L524[10:48:51] <JustWhoAmI> which isn't in the api

L525[10:49:16] <howtonotwin> mekanism.common would be the main mod code

L526[10:49:41] <BordListian> i would've imagined that betterwithmods:material and betterwithaddons:material should be unique enough

L527[10:50:01] <JustWhoAmI> howtonotwin, correct but the mdk given for development by him

L528[10:50:06] <JustWhoAmI> it includes only the api folder

L529[10:50:12] <JustWhoAmI> which doesn't have a common folder

L530[10:50:14] <Roburrito> hownottowin: Okay, I've been looking at Forestry. I think I'll just make my mod dependant on it and use their genetic API

L531[10:50:26] <howtonotwin> lol I think you read my name wrong

L532[10:50:33] <JustWhoAmI> xD

L533[10:50:36] <Roburrito> HA

L534[10:50:41] <Cuby96> so i created my lovely universal bucket with UniversalBucket.getFilledBucket(ForgeModContainer.getInstance().universalBucket, this) and created an ItemStack, now how do i put that itemstack into my creativetab? :S i mean i cant put setCreativeTab on an itemstack

L535[10:51:56] <JustWhoAmI> any idea ghz|afk howtonotwin ?

L536[10:52:20] <howtonotwin> Cuby: I would say override CreativeTabs::displayAllRelevantItems

L537[10:52:47] <howtonotwin> call super and then add the bucket stack to the list

L538[10:54:53] <Cuby96> ok let me try that, i guess simply call the method and import CreativeTabs :P

L539[10:56:54] <Cuby96> so would it be super(universalBucket) in that case?

L540[10:56:55] <JustWhoAmI> is it just a fault of the api.. that I can't do anything?

L541[10:57:52] <sham1> JustWhoAmI, just.. what are you trying to do

L542[10:58:06] <JustWhoAmI> trying to use gases added by the mod

L543[10:58:07] <BordListian> okay i have no idea how to resolve this

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L545[10:58:13] <BordListian> ergh

L546[10:58:48] <sham1> You do know that you cannot transport a gas in a bucket without a top

L547[10:59:29] <howtonotwin> BordListian why on earth is another mod registering something under your modid

L548[10:59:48] <BordListian> exactly

L549[10:59:52] <JustWhoAmI> err

L550[10:59:59] <JustWhoAmI> sham1, I never said anything about a bucket

L551[11:00:02] <howtonotwin> it's perfectly justifiable to yell at the author now

L552[11:00:15] <JustWhoAmI> Cuby96 is talking about a bucket

L553[11:00:24] <BordListian> it's not the authors fault tho

L554[11:00:30] <BordListian> pretty sure it's on my end but i don't know how

L555[11:00:36] <Cuby96> howtonotwin well the super class in my case is the fluid class i am in trying to override the creativeTabs method

L556[11:00:44] <howtonotwin> wah

L557[11:00:48] <howtonotwin> no subclass CreativeTabs

L558[11:00:51] <howtonotwin> and override the method

L559[11:00:51] <BordListian> okay maybe i'm not understanding this correctly, lemme pastebin the log

L560[11:02:14] <PaleoCrafter> sham1, wouldn't it depend on the gas's density? :P

L561[11:02:21] <sham1> Please

L562[11:02:27] <BordListian> say whaat

L563[11:02:35] <howtonotwin> can you not just turn the bucket upside down /s

L564[11:02:40] <BordListian> invalid registry invocation/invalid name?

L565[11:02:47] <sham1> :D

L566[11:03:26] <howtonotwin> Bord, logs?

L567[11:04:47] <JustWhoAmI> the sad part is that the creator of mekanism hasn't been on twitter for like 3months

L568[11:04:50] <BordListian> http://pastebin.com/ztS9KrdD

L569[11:05:03] <JustWhoAmI> so I can't even tweet at him, ask what's going on

L570[11:06:29] <howtonotwin> modid betterwithmods is systematically using betterwithaddons as its domain

L571[11:06:40] <howtonotwin> yell at its author

L572[11:06:45] <BordListian> but how

L573[11:06:55] <BordListian> it was working a little while ago

L574[11:07:05] <howtonotwin> are they related in any way?

L575[11:07:20] <BordListian> err, i'm using it as a lib/dependency?

L576[11:08:05] <howtonotwin> the way MC autofills the domain during registry name setting

L577[11:08:14] <howtonotwin> is it takes the ModContainer currently loading

L578[11:08:20] <howtonotwin> and takes its modid

L579[11:08:30] <BordListian> urgh

L580[11:08:33] <howtonotwin> so somehow your mod is remaining active while the other one loads

L581[11:09:02] <BordListian> i'm touching their blocks in preinit

L582[11:09:06] <BordListian> that might be whats causing it

L583[11:09:47] <howtonotwin> well you better be loading after them

L584[11:10:10] <BordListian> ...well

L585[11:10:29] <TechnicianLP> why will lowercase modids be enforced in 1.11?

L586[11:10:55] <BordListian> how do i load after?

L587[11:11:01] <howtonotwin> @Mod?

L588[11:11:14] <BordListian> sounds like i should read the docs again

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L590[11:15:45] <BordListian> alright, that worked

L591[11:16:00] <BordListian> i assume it's because of java's stupid static policy

L592[11:16:34] <BordListian> (stupid in this context only)

L593[11:16:45] <howtonotwin> ?

L594[11:16:53] <BordListian> alright, now all my blocks and items disappeared

L595[11:17:14] <BordListian> err, static fields are only initialized when you actually access them

L596[11:17:43] <BordListian> so me poking at BWMBlocks caused everything within to be loaded under my modid because forge takes the currently loading mod

L597[11:17:52] <PaleoCrafter> uhm... static fields should be initialised as soon as the class is referenced

L598[11:18:03] <PaleoCrafter> eh, loaded

L599[11:18:44] <howtonotwin> I do think it is your own fault for using a mod without depending on it...

L600[11:18:55] <BordListian> which occurs the first time it's referenced in code

L601[11:19:18] <PaleoCrafter> TechnicianLP, Vanilla will force resource domains to be all lowercase, so mod ids should be as well

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L603[11:21:24] <BordListian> ergh

L604[11:21:28] <BordListian> what the hell

L605[11:21:37] <BordListian> i change one minor thing and everything goes to shit

L606[11:22:41] <howtonotwin> ?

L607[11:22:55] <BordListian> alright, adding dependencies to @Mod caused my mod... to not be loaded at all

L608[11:23:09] <howtonotwin> ???

L609[11:23:21] <BordListian> does this need a delimiter at the end?

L610[11:23:28] <BordListian> @Mod(modid = Reference.MOD_ID, name = Reference.MOD_NAME, version = Reference.MOD_VERSION, dependencies = "betterwithmods")

L611[11:23:42] <PaleoCrafter> required-after:betterwithmods :P

L612[11:23:51] <PaleoCrafter> you need to specify "how" you depend on it

L613[11:24:00] <BordListian> damnit

L614[11:24:05] <howtonotwin> lol

L615[11:24:53] <BordListian> okay so apparently @Mod is significantly different from mcmod.info

L616[11:25:07] <BordListian> is dependencies for hard dependencies?

L617[11:25:17] <howtonotwin> both hard and soft

L618[11:25:51] <BordListian> ergh

L619[11:26:00] <BordListian> i see

L620[11:26:07] <BordListian> now i get it

L621[11:26:10] <BordListian> thank you

L622[11:26:53] <PaleoCrafter> for soft dependencies, you use after instead of required-after

L623[11:27:17] <BordListian> ah

L624[11:28:49] <JustWhoAmI> Posted an issue on this Mekanism github page: https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/issues/3896

L625[11:28:55] <howtonotwin> I mean you could use mcmod info for dependencies anyway

L626[11:29:20] <howtonotwin> :P

L627[11:29:32] <BordListian> it's too late you've already shown me how to be lazy

L628[11:29:52] <howtonotwin> you want lazy; you use haskell. :P

L629[11:30:00] <BordListian> nop

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L635[11:51:12] <kokolihapihvi> so I upgraded to forge 12.18.2.2099-1.10.2 and now I have 118 java errors to solve, any obvious things I should know?

L636[11:52:23] <Ordinastie> auto fix imports for a start

L637[11:53:15] <ghz|afk> you were on 1.8.9 right?

L638[11:53:29] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/kashike/migration/wiki/1.8.9-to-1.9

L639[11:53:37] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/kashike/migration/wiki/1.9-to-1.9.4

L640[11:53:49] <ghz|afk> here's the list of renames

L641[11:53:56] <ghz|afk> 1.9.4 to 1.10.2 didn't change much

L642[11:56:01] <cpw> to make 1.11 j8 only?

L643[11:56:09] <cpw> :P

L644[11:56:17] <ghz|afk> ?

L645[11:56:19] <JustWhoAmI> ghz|afk, I seem to be having an issue with the mekanism api: https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/issues/3896

L646[11:56:24] <Ordinastie> +1

L647[11:56:27] <JustWhoAmI> can you help?

L648[11:56:38] <ghz|afk> I'm all up for 1.11 being j8 only -- my mods are already ;P

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L650[11:57:53] <cpw> lol

L651[11:58:59] <kokolihapihvi> AxisAlignedBB no longer has static methods?

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L653[12:04:05] <kokolihapihvi> what's this new ActionResult for item right click methods?

L654[12:04:24] <IoP> *rofl* @ nick

L655[12:04:27] <ghz|afk> you know how there's an offhand now?

L656[12:04:41] <ghz|afk> the action result tells mc how to behave in regards of that

L657[12:04:52] <ghz|afk> SUCCESS means the action was done

L658[12:05:03] <ghz|afk> PASS means mc will try with the other hand or the block in front of you

L659[12:05:07] <ghz|afk> and FAIL means it will stop trying

L660[12:06:45] <kokolihapihvi> ah, okay so I just use ActionResult.newResult

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L662[12:23:01] <JustWhoAmI> The issue seems to go all the way back to version 1.8.9

L663[12:23:19] <JustWhoAmI> lines 3 and 4 here: https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/blob/1.8.9/src/main/java/mekanism/api/gas/Gas.java

L664[12:23:37] <JustWhoAmI> lines 13 and 14 here: https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/blob/1.8.9/src/main/java/mekanism/api/gas/GasNetwork.java

L665[12:23:54] <JustWhoAmI> ooh tterrag you worked on the second file, care to shed some light?

L666[12:25:39] <JustWhoAmI> This is the issue I'm talking about btw: https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/issues/3896

L667[12:34:03] <BordListian> to return an item whenever a stacked item is used in crafting, do i need a custom IRecipe?

L668[12:34:22] <BordListian> can't quite seem to get this container stuff to work

L669[12:36:10] <Kane_Hart> wait cpw 1.8+ is not already j8 only +?

L670[12:36:15] <ghz|afk> nope

L671[12:36:17] <Kane_Hart> Half the mods require it now :P

L672[12:36:24] <ghz|afk> j6 because mc is j6

L673[12:36:28] <Kane_Hart> Id say make it j8+ for sure. Fix the headache

L674[12:36:31] <Kane_Hart> lol

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L676[12:36:41] <Kane_Hart> even MC default launcher is now j8 bundled lol

L677[12:36:44] <cpw> lol kane

L678[12:36:45] <cpw> i wish

L679[12:36:46] <ghz|afk> Lex's stance is to keep it J6 so long as minecraft's bytecode is j6

L680[12:37:06] <Kane_Hart> Welp I can't argue with the boss :P I like this channel <3

L681[12:37:11] <cpw> that is our official policy ghz

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L683[12:37:55] <Kane_Hart> have not checked out j9 but I can't wait till people only compile their mods based on it :P

L684[12:39:28] <PaleoCrafter> probably won't happen because it breaks shit :P

L685[12:40:14] <PaleoCrafter> J9 doesn't add any great new language features which would make it a must-have anyways

L686[12:40:19] <Kane_Hart> It happen though for the longest time with 8 and it broke shit haha. The nice thing about Minecraft launcher though and being bundled with 8 is majority people use it and hopfully prevent others from acting like idiots :P

L687[12:40:30] <Kane_Hart> there will always be that one person

L688[12:41:01] <PaleoCrafter> J9 will break FML in itself, as far as I understood it

L689[12:41:12] <Kane_Hart> Oh that is good news then :)

L690[12:41:26] <PaleoCrafter> how so? oO

L691[12:41:39] <Kane_Hart> Then people will not even try using j9 :P

L692[12:41:51] <ghz|afk> lol people WILL try.

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L694[12:42:12] <ghz|afk> don't underestimate people's interest in using the latest toy

L695[12:42:12] <ghz|afk> ;p

L696[12:42:33] <Kane_Hart> 2 weeks later insert randoom name joins #minecraftforge LEXXXX j9 something or other 2 seconds later insert random name has been banned!

L697[12:42:33] <kenzierocks> J9 adds a lot of performance improvements

L698[12:42:47] <Kane_Hart> does it?

L699[12:42:50] <kenzierocks> yes

L700[12:42:56] <kenzierocks> inline string concat

L701[12:42:56] <Kane_Hart> I really should read up on it.

L702[12:42:56] <sham1> Kane_Hart, why is not being able to use java9 a good thing

L703[12:43:02] <kenzierocks> a bunch of other stuff

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L705[12:43:11] <IoP> source for performance?

L706[12:43:12] <kenzierocks> most of it requires a recompile though

L707[12:43:23] <kenzierocks> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk9/

L708[12:43:25] <Kane_Hart> No no I'm not saying using it is bad I just mean people who might use J9 and compile based on it and not 8 where we can't use it.

L709[12:43:34] <Kane_Hart> like that happen in the early days of j8

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L712[12:44:33] <kenzierocks> especially http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/143 http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/248 http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/254 http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/280

L713[12:44:54] <kenzierocks> additionally, as a side effect of #280, lambda startup cost is way less

L714[12:45:58] <sham1> yay

L715[12:46:09] <Kane_Hart> can't say no to that :)

L716[12:46:30] <Kane_Hart> excuse me while I set my memory to 32gigs to load my 1.10 modpack.

L717[12:46:41] <cpw> j9 fucks the world. j9 isn't happening until vanilla forces it. because it's bad enough that vanilla will have to go j9 only or "j everything else"

L718[12:46:58] <kenzierocks> cpw: why is that?

L719[12:47:04] <cpw> classloading is completely fucked

L720[12:47:17] <cpw> so fucked you could get less action at a busy whorehouse

L721[12:47:32] <sham1> :P

L722[12:47:36] <cpw> like "anything that touches classloaders needs a complete rewrite" fucked

L723[12:47:40] <cpw> including vanilla

L724[12:47:44] <fry> it's not THAT bad :P

L725[12:47:47] <cpw> and it WON'T be backwards compatible

L726[12:47:49] <fry> it's still pretty bad

L727[12:47:54] <cpw> fry: it's bad enough that it may as well be

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L729[12:48:13] <fry> just don't want you to overhype the badness

L730[12:48:19] <cpw> LOL

L731[12:48:21] <fry> we had problems with that before :P

L732[12:48:24] <cpw> i overhype everything :P

L733[12:48:27] <cpw> seriously tho

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L735[12:48:37] <cpw> it would require a pretty thorough rewrite of FML to work

L736[12:48:47] <cpw> and probably a lot of vanilla respack code too

L737[12:48:58] <cpw> which would very probably break compat with j8

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L739[12:49:12] <sham1> But Java REPL

L740[12:49:13] <fry> sooo, my simple idea: make URLClassLoader, load everything through it

L741[12:49:18] <fry> what breaks? :P

L742[12:49:44] <cpw> mods?

L743[12:49:51] <fry> in what way? :P

L744[12:50:02] <cpw> they lose visibility to vanilla classes

L745[12:50:10] <Kane_Hart> I remember when this guy was like an angel many years ago :P https://i.imgur.com/pMULSNx.png

L746[12:50:11] <cpw> or JVM classes

L747[12:50:14] <cpw> one or the other

L748[12:50:30] <cpw> lol kane

L749[12:50:38] <cpw> i've been a foul mouthed sod since birth

L750[12:50:38] <fry> classloaders aren't delegating anymore?

L751[12:50:45] <cpw> not simply no

L752[12:50:55] <cpw> that's why this is such a fucked up change

L753[12:51:02] <cpw> they've got a whole new model for how they work

L754[12:51:06] <cpw> based on "modules"

L755[12:51:12] <cpw> which are sorta related to jars, but not quite

L756[12:51:40] <PaleoCrafter> cpw's first words: "fuck off" or something along those lines

L757[12:51:48] <fry> "sod off" :D

L758[12:52:00] <sham1> "piss off"

L759[12:52:02] <cpw> lol

L760[12:56:49] <BordListian> what's the recommended way to stop decompiling in idea?

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L762[12:56:59] <ghz|afk> wat?

L763[12:57:02] <BordListian> asking for a friend

L764[12:57:15] <ghz|afk> wtf does it even mean to "stop decompiling"?

L765[12:57:20] <BordListian> he left the default settings it took a hella long time

L766[12:57:24] <BordListian> setupDecompWorkspace

L767[12:57:32] <cpw> to stop decompiling?

L768[12:57:37] <cpw> you mean allocate more ram right?

L769[12:57:38] <BordListian> aka cancel a gradle task

L770[12:57:46] <ghz|afk> press the stop button on the gradle task?

L771[12:57:50] <cpw> you can kill tasks in the panel at the bottom

L772[12:57:53] <BordListian> alright then

L773[12:57:58] <shartte> if that doesnt work

L774[12:58:00] <cpw> and then the skull if it still doesn't respond

L775[12:58:05] <shartte> just kill everything with the task manager :P

L776[12:58:10] <cpw> (might not, GC screws everything)

L777[12:58:52] <BordListian> pretty good

L778[12:59:01] <BordListian> task manager was the way

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L781[12:59:35] <BordListian> how much ram is recommended, again?

L782[12:59:59] <KomradeSpectre> I could feel IntelliJ choking the life out of my computer there, before I cut the hands off it to free my comp.

L783[13:00:01] <cpw> 2gb

L784[13:00:02] <shartte> try 2G or sth

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L791[13:09:23] <Aulus> hello

L792[13:09:50] <sham1> hi

L793[13:10:42] <Aulus> I'm looking for something that will help me find which mod has a memory leak

L794[13:10:50] <sham1> Don't ask to ask

L795[13:10:52] <sham1> Just ask

L796[13:11:34] <Aulus> i know its a memory leak because before adding mods to my forge server all was fine but after no matter how much memory i give to the server it uses it all up

L797[13:11:38] <IoP> java flight recorder, visual vm, heap dump @ OOM & heap analysis

L798[13:11:47] <Aulus> but i added a bunch

L799[13:12:07] <Aulus> didn't want to do trial and error if possible

L800[13:12:12] <sham1> Wait, java can have memory leaks?

L801[13:12:22] <ghz|afk> sortof

L802[13:12:22] <IoP> Also how did you determine that something is leaking?

L803[13:12:25] <sham1> Yet it has automatic allocation

L804[13:12:27] <ghz|afk> yes

L805[13:12:28] <tterrag> JustWhoAmI: you should probably check what I actually did before you bug me >.>

L806[13:12:31] <sham1> And dealloc

L807[13:12:31] <tterrag> https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/commit/d85dfd4f31047b2a6137184f2bb55bbe26780056

L808[13:12:37] <ghz|afk> but objects can hoard references

L809[13:12:43] <ghz|afk> that they aren't supposed to keep

L810[13:12:58] <ghz|afk> and you can still have resource leaks if objects don't properly release native resources

L811[13:13:15] <ghz|afk> like someone allocating GL textures but never deallocating them, or similar

L812[13:13:27] <Aulus> @iop I increased the amount of memory the server is using and no matter what i set it to it keeps using it all and causes momentary lag

L813[13:13:27] <JustWhoAmI> I'm sorry tterag

L814[13:13:45] <Aulus> perhaps maybe its not a memory leak but some mod is causing it because with no mods its fine

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L816[13:14:14] <IoP> increased to which amount?

L817[13:14:15] <Aulus> my plan is to just get rid of what mod is doing it once i figure out what it is

L818[13:14:31] <Aulus> i started at 1 gb and increased by 1G at a time

L819[13:14:37] <BordListian> alright, almost have it setup for him, just running into some missing package errors

L820[13:14:39] <Aulus> right now i'm at 8G and have 16g total

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L822[13:15:30] <ghz|afk> Aulus: is it one of those "every single mod ever created" type packs?

L823[13:15:37] <ghz|afk> they can use a lot of ram ;P

L824[13:15:42] <ghz|afk> but yeah 8gb is a bit much

L825[13:16:16] <ghz|afk> I feel like IoP's first suggestion is probably the only real solution

L826[13:16:17] <ghz|afk> [20:12] (IoP): java flight recorder, visual vm, heap dump @ OOM & heap analysis

L827[13:16:24] <IoP> also crappy mods creating shitloads objects for GC in every tick. But already mentioned some^^

L828[13:16:38] <Aulus> i have 35 mods

L829[13:16:46] <Aulus> i can give you a list

L830[13:16:53] <IoP> JFR method sampling: http://hirt.se/blog/?p=364 JFR: allocation profiling http://hirt.se/blog/?p=381

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L832[13:17:06] <IoP> Aulus: what should we do the list?

L833[13:17:38] <IoP> I can profile your pack but it's god damn boring => 80 EUR/h

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L835[13:19:09] <Aulus> the only thing i could think you could do with it is see if i have a mod with known issues

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L837[13:19:49] <Aulus> really all i was looking for is to see if there is something i can use to tell me what mod is using the most memory, cpu, ticks, or something like that so i can find which one is using the most resources

L838[13:19:54] <Aulus> to help me find which mod is the issue

L839[13:20:10] <Aulus> without removing one at a time

L840[13:20:21] <IoP> [21:16] <ghz|afk> I feel like IoP's first suggestion is probably the only real solution

L841[13:20:24] <IoP> [21:16] <ghz|afk> [20:12] (IoP): java flight recorder, visual vm, heap dump @ OOM & heap analysis

L842[13:20:32] <Aulus> ok

L843[13:20:36] <Aulus> i'll check those out

L844[13:20:42] <fry> > one at a time

L845[13:20:44] <fry> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_search_algorithm

L846[13:20:48] <howtonotwin> lol

L847[13:20:59] <howtonotwin> ^ works though

L848[13:22:04] <kenzierocks> hey one thing i forgot to mention about J9

L849[13:22:08] <kenzierocks> private methods on interfaces

L850[13:22:29] <BordListian> alright, we seem to be running into all the dumb edge cases today

L851[13:23:42] <BordListian> says it's missing net.minecraft.init and a load of other packages

L852[13:26:49] <BordListian> looks like it didn't add forge as a dependency

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L855[13:32:23] <kokolihapihvi> howtonotwin: for some reason my process and retexture are not being called :/

L856[13:32:35] <BordListian> ok we good, forgot to refresh before generating runs

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L864[13:50:57] <kokolihapihvi> I missed the "forge_marker": 1 part, now process gets called, but retexture doesn't

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L867[13:58:08] <Cuby96> how do i rename the universal bucket i create? ingame its displayed as: fluid.oil Bucket and i made in the en_US.lang an entry with tile.fluid.oil Bucket.name but it didnt change

L868[13:58:55] <Roburrito> I don't think the name field likes spaces.

L869[13:59:11] <kokolihapihvi> I'm not sure but you might need to use quotes when there's a space in the name?

L870[13:59:19] <PaleoCrafter> it uses a formatted localisation of the form "%s Bucket"

L871[13:59:20] <Roburrito> And in 1.11 it won't like capitals.

L872[13:59:25] <Roburrito> use_the_snake

L873[13:59:34] <PaleoCrafter> so all you need to define is to define fluid.oil

L874[13:59:44] <PaleoCrafter> - that second "to define" xD

L875[14:00:34] <Cuby96> so it is: fluid.oil=Mineral Oil ?

L876[14:00:42] <PaleoCrafter> yes

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L878[14:03:12] <Cuby96> yeah nice thx, well back to that topic i mentioned i still dont know how to put the itemstack (my universal bucket) into my creative tab as an itemstack doesnt use setCreativeTab all i heard was to go inside the CreativeTab class i made and to override a function from CreativeTabs

L879[14:05:17] <Cuby96> idk how though

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L881[14:05:19] <PaleoCrafter> that should be enough information :P

L882[14:05:38] <Cuby96> is there somewhere i can look it up?

L883[14:05:48] <Cuby96> cause im stuck :S

L884[14:05:56] <kokolihapihvi> are you talking about putting items into the creativetab or setting an item to be the icon of the tab?

L885[14:06:11] <PaleoCrafter> just look at the CreativeTabs class source

L886[14:06:12] <Cuby96> putting my bucket of my custom liquid inside my tab

L887[14:06:45] * LatvianModder is very excited for 100%, absolutely sure fact that Forge for MC 1.11 will use Java 8

L888[14:07:09] <LatvianModder> (This is how you establish something that is still being talked about :P)

L889[14:07:14] <kokolihapihvi> I just have that in my items constructor, setCreativeTab(myCreativeTab)

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L892[14:08:07] <Cuby96> well my custom universal bucket filled with my liquid is of an type of Itemstack kokolihapihvi

L893[14:08:37] <PaleoCrafter> I think the more exciting thing is that it will with 100% certainty be retroactively applied to older version of MC beforehand, LatvianModder xD

L894[14:08:58] <kokolihapihvi> should still work if you mean it extends itemstack

L895[14:09:28] <PaleoCrafter> stop talking bullshit, overriding a method in the creative tab is the only option here

L896[14:09:42] <kokolihapihvi> o_O

L897[14:10:18] <Cuby96> :D

L898[14:10:28] <Cuby96> lol good one

L899[14:11:32] <Cuby96> okay so overriding let me see what i can do

L900[14:11:36] <kokolihapihvi> I suppose you could override displayAllRelevantItems?

L901[14:12:26] <kokolihapihvi> but why not just do item.setCreativeTab(creativeTab)? is that being deprecated or something?

L902[14:13:02] <Cuby96> yeah thats what another person said with the override i got that but how the heck do i add it when i overrote it?

L903[14:13:06] <Cuby96> what what i ask myself

L904[14:13:11] <PaleoCrafter> it's not their own item and that would affect all buckets of all fluids

L905[14:13:30] <LatvianModder> "extends itemstack"

L906[14:13:31] <LatvianModder> what

L907[14:13:36] <LatvianModder> ItemStack is a final class

L908[14:13:46] <Cuby96> yeah that aswell

L909[14:13:50] <LatvianModder> I dont even want to imagine what would happen if it wasnt

L910[14:14:10] <kokolihapihvi> I must be doing alot of stuff wrong then because I'm doing that xD

L911[14:14:18] <PaleoCrafter> Oo

L912[14:14:20] <LatvianModder> o_O

L913[14:14:24] <Cuby96> xDDD

L914[14:14:26] <LatvianModder> Its impossibru

L915[14:14:27] <kokolihapihvi> oh nevermind I'm a derp

L916[14:14:30] <kokolihapihvi> extends Item

L917[14:14:39] <kokolihapihvi> ignore me, I'm just an old fragile man

L918[14:14:56] <LatvianModder> phew

L919[14:15:04] <PaleoCrafter> LatvianModder, I don't think a lot would go wrong, unless somebody relies on something.getClass() == ItemStack.class to work :P

L920[14:15:05] <LatvianModder> And I got a mild heart attack from that lol

L921[14:15:12] <Cuby96> extends ItemStack ohh why is my code not working? :P

L922[14:15:27] <LatvianModder> na na, imagine how many things could modders break if they made their own versions of ItemStack

L923[14:15:39] <kokolihapihvi> true that

L924[14:15:41] <Cuby96> lol true

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L926[14:16:03] <kokolihapihvi> aaanyway, so you override the thing they said and look at the CreativeTabs code in forge and see how they do stuff and mimic that

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L928[14:17:10] <Cuby96> okay any docs for 1.10 in a shape of an javadoc? :3

L929[14:17:26] <Cuby96> or how do i look the class inside intellij?

L930[14:17:37] <kokolihapihvi> you look at the class in your IDE

L931[14:18:16] <PaleoCrafter> ctrl + N in IDEA

L932[14:18:56] <Cuby96> ahh thx

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L934[14:23:47] <kokolihapihvi> can someone help me with my IRetexturableModels retexture not getting called?

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L937[14:28:57] <Roburrito> If I may think out loud learning Forestry API: All species in forestry spend at least some time as an item. This is used and needed. Make an abstract item for each animal I'm adding that is never actually dropped but used as needed?

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L939[14:29:17] <Roburrito> I suppose it could actually be used in a high-tech gene bank.

L940[14:31:49] <Roburrito> Oh! I'd only need one ItemFetus that is abstract enough to be used by any entity.

L941[14:34:49] <Cuby96> that displayAllRelevantItems thingy is a double for loop, now the thing is: do i really need to do that double for loop for one single itemstack?

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L944[14:37:06] <tterrag> um

L945[14:37:14] <tterrag> Cuby96: what exactly are you trying to do?

L946[14:37:47] <Cuby96> adding an itemstack to my creativeTab by overriding my displayAllRelevantItems

L947[14:38:02] <Cuby96> is it just doing itemList.add(myItemStack)?

L948[14:38:13] <Cuby96> inside that method? or did i got that wrong?

L949[14:38:33] <tterrag> why not just do setCreativeTab ?

L950[14:38:43] <kokolihapihvi> not this again

L951[14:38:47] <Cuby96> because its an itemstack

L952[14:38:48] <Cuby96> :D

L953[14:38:55] <tterrag> but

L954[14:38:58] <tterrag> what

L955[14:39:21] <Cuby96> haha yeah we talked about that that an override is the right way to go

L956[14:39:33] <Cuby96> quoting from PaleoCrafter

L957[14:40:01] <tterrag> I don't get why. this is exactly what getSubItems is for

L958[14:40:02] <PaleoCrafter> "it's not their own item and that would affect all buckets of all fluids" would be more appropriate

L959[14:40:27] <Cuby96> yeah gets to the point :P

L960[14:41:07] <Cuby96> so i think itemList.add(universalBucket) would do the job

L961[14:41:24] <tterrag> probably

L962[14:41:26] <Cuby96> afaik about that List of items which includes the CreativeTabs :D

L963[14:41:33] <Cuby96> ^^

L964[14:45:08] <Cuby96> im reading that topic about that issue: http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=26447.0

L965[14:45:43] <Cuby96> now IDEA says to me that the method add() uses Strings well but i want to add an ItemStack

L966[14:48:55] <kokolihapihvi> is the list type ItemStack?

L967[14:49:16] <Cuby96> yup i did List<ItemStack> itemList

L968[14:49:33] <Cuby96> as a param inside the displayAllRelevantsItems method

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L973[15:01:24] <Cuby96> cant resolve method add(ItemStack) lol even though its a List of ItemStacks

L974[15:06:24] <kokolihapihvi> Cuby96, could you show your creativetab code?

L975[15:06:54] <Cuby96> http://pastebin.com/bHejv0C5

L976[15:08:11] <Cuby96> with that if i want to open the CreativeTab it crashed :D

L977[15:08:58] <Cuby96> crashes at line 25

L978[15:09:10] <Cuby96> so at line with the itemList.add(...)

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L980[15:09:32] <kokolihapihvi> don't see anything wrong with that code itself, probably check that the getfilledbucket part returns something other than null?

L981[15:09:48] <kokolihapihvi> maybe add a breakpoint and poke around

L982[15:11:30] <kokolihapihvi> wait, can you do new FluidOil() there like that?

L983[15:11:46] <Cuby96> well i imported it

L984[15:11:54] <Cuby96> so can't i do that?

L985[15:12:20] <kokolihapihvi> I'm not sure, don't you have a reference to the fluid you registered somewhere anyway?

L986[15:13:02] <Cuby96> deosnt it refer to the FluidOil.java class when i do the constructor?

L987[15:13:22] <Cuby96> i mean its public

L988[15:14:15] <kokolihapihvi> yeah it does, but I'm not sure if you can pass a new instance of FluidOil to getFilledBucket, or if it needs the instance you registered as fluid

L989[15:14:48] <Cuby96> well i can try that, how do i get the registered instance?

L990[15:15:11] <Cuby96> ForgeModContainer.getInstance().oil?

L991[15:15:17] <kokolihapihvi> FluidRegistry.registerFluid(fluid)

L992[15:15:31] <Cuby96> well i registered it already

L993[15:15:38] <Cuby96> in the fluidOil class

L994[15:15:58] <Cuby96> so it should be known afaik

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L996[15:16:16] <Aulus> I'm looking for what mod is using the most memory and visualvm shows that class "net.minecraft.util.math.BlockPos" is using the most active memory when the memory fills up

L997[15:16:34] <Aulus> what type of mod would i be looking for that uses that class?

L998[15:16:46] <ghz|afk> all of them.

L999[15:16:52] <Aulus> great

L1000[15:16:59] <Aulus> could be any then

L1001[15:17:08] <ghz|afk> BlockPos is a class used to store a position within the world grid

L1002[15:17:10] <Aulus> i guess i need to remove one at a time then

L1003[15:17:22] <ghz|afk> problem is, if someone is storing lots of BlockPos for some reason

L1004[15:17:30] <ghz|afk> not one at a time

L1005[15:17:34] <ghz|afk> do a bisection

L1006[15:17:47] <ghz|afk> remove around half

L1007[15:17:49] <sham1> git bisect?

L1008[15:17:53] <Aulus> ya

L1009[15:17:59] <ghz|afk> the way I do this is:

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L1011[15:18:02] <ghz|afk> open excel or similar

L1012[15:18:14] <kokolihapihvi> Cuby96, do you keep a reference to the specific instance of FluidOil you pass to FluidRegistry.registerFluid?

L1013[15:18:17] <ghz|afk> and record in one column all the mods

L1014[15:18:26] <ghz|afk> then take half, and move them to the next column

L1015[15:18:29] <ghz|afk> and remove those from the folder

L1016[15:18:39] <Aulus> ya makes sense

L1017[15:18:41] <Aulus> thanks

L1018[15:18:49] <ghz|afk> this way you don't forget which ones you tested

L1019[15:19:10] <ghz|afk> if all of them worked, then you take half of the remaining ones, in a whole new column

L1020[15:19:16] <Aulus> well i only have 35 so sholudn't be too bad

L1021[15:19:18] <ghz|afk> and if it failed, then you swap them around

L1022[15:19:41] <Cuby96> let me show you my fluidOil class real quick so you can have a look kokolihapihvi

L1023[15:19:43] <sham1> yay for O(log n) search algorithms

L1024[15:19:51] <Aulus> another class using alot at that time was char

L1025[15:20:06] <Aulus> but blockpos was about 2% higher

L1026[15:20:10] <sham1> char is a primitive

L1027[15:21:11] <Cuby96> kokolihapihvi here you go: http://pastebin.com/aMqsiJfK

L1028[15:21:13] <Aulus> oh

L1029[15:21:28] <Aulus> i'm guessing that's prob used by everything too then

L1030[15:22:42] <kokolihapihvi> that way your liquid gets registered when you construct it, which may be too late Cuby96

L1031[15:23:41] <kokolihapihvi> I'm guessing you need to register it the same way you'd register blocks

L1032[15:24:09] <quadraxis> probably char[] which is used by String

L1033[15:25:28] <IoP> Aulus: or grab more tools and find out which function creates those objects

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L1035[15:25:58] <thechief5456> So my idea for a gear based power system was already done by rotarycraft and theres no chance Im going to better that so back to the thinking board

L1036[15:26:21] <Roburrito> Implement more uses for it?

L1037[15:26:32] <Aulus> well considering i'm new to debugging java stuff i think it would be faster to just bisect

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L1039[15:27:21] <IoP> maybe unless problem is caused by mod interaction

L1040[15:27:38] <thechief5456> I think Im going to do an storage management mod noe

L1041[15:27:41] <thechief5456> now*

L1042[15:29:28] <Aulus> if i can remove one mod and make the issue go away i'm fine with leaving it out

L1043[15:29:43] <Aulus> i'm not married to any of these

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L1048[15:41:40] <thechief5456> since Ive seen people saying ppl should use capabilities, can anyone point me to a good resource

L1049[15:42:47] <Cuby96> i thought its registered already kokolihapihvi

L1050[15:43:18] <Cuby96> as my fluid is in the misc tab

L1051[15:43:57] <kokolihapihvi> where do you construct it for the first time?

L1052[15:44:56] <Cuby96> well isnt it inside the FluidOil.java which i sent to you the statement: FluidRegistry.addBucketForFluid(this);

L1053[15:45:37] <kokolihapihvi> no I mean where do you do new FluidOil for the first time?

L1054[15:46:04] <Cuby96> in my fluidInit.java gimme a sec

L1055[15:46:57] <Cuby96> http://pastebin.com/n9BW0KQQ

L1056[15:47:00] <Cuby96> here you go

L1057[15:47:38] <Cuby96> i guess you mean the reference inside that fluidInit that variable fluidOil which i set at the top right?

L1058[15:47:54] <kokolihapihvi> there you go, use that reference in your creativetab thing, instead of new FluidOil, have FluidInit.fluidOil;

L1059[15:48:08] <Cuby96> ah okay let me check

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L1061[15:48:19] <gr8pefish> thechief5456, https://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/datastorage/capabilities/

L1062[15:48:40] <thechief5456> thanks gr8pefish!

L1063[15:48:47] <gr8pefish> If you have questions, ask away

L1064[15:49:22] <thechief5456> this community is really a special thing, everyone is so helpful and knowledgeable

L1065[15:49:38] <Cuby96> true :P

L1066[15:50:15] <Cuby96> yes works perfectly kokolihapihvi thanks alot for your patience :)

L1067[15:50:25] <ghz|afk> ugh, 1.11 nether is HARD

L1068[15:50:40] <ghz|afk> skeletons all over the place

L1069[15:50:50] <kokolihapihvi> no problem Cuby96

L1070[15:51:44] <kokolihapihvi> gr8pefish, can you help me with my IRetexturableModels retexture method not getting called?

L1071[15:52:06] <gr8pefish> erm I can rty but textures are not mys trong suit

L1072[15:52:09] <gr8pefish> *try

L1073[15:52:13] <gr8pefish> *strong

L1074[15:52:16] <gr8pefish> I can't type :P

L1075[15:52:35] <gr8pefish> link me all the relevant code

L1076[15:52:41] <gr8pefish> gist/github/etc

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L1078[15:55:07] <kokolihapihvi> how does gist work? I have a github repo for this project, can I do a commit without merging it to master or something?

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L1080[15:55:49] <gr8pefish> just link me the linkes of yoru repo that you are concerned with, that works

L1081[15:56:38] <kokolihapihvi> I guess I'll just commit this as is for you to look at

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L1083[16:00:23] <kokolihapihvi> https://github.com/kokolihapihvi/OrePings/blob/master/src/main/java/com/kokolihapihvi/orepings/client/model/ModelDynPing.java#L169 this is the method that should be called but isn't for some reason

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L1086[16:00:32] <gr8pefish> Anyone around here good with rendering rotation code? I'm just trying to get a GL rotation to rotate the player horizontally, and update depending on where they are looking (i.e. it wood look like superman flying)

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L1088[16:01:00] <gr8pefish> wow my brain today. *would

L1089[16:01:01] <kokolihapihvi> I'm basically mimicing ModelDynBucket for an item that needs to display an ores texture

L1090[16:01:19] <gr8pefish> and tyring to update the texture dependin on contents?

L1091[16:01:24] <Shambling> stupid question, but was calling button texture changed in 1.10.2? "getTextureManager().bindTexture(buttonTextures);" no longer seems to know what buttonTextures is as a variable

L1092[16:01:39] <kokolihapihvi> https://github.com/kokolihapihvi/OrePings/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/ore_pings/blockstates/dynping.json here is the blockstate for the model

L1093[16:02:06] <Shambling> I've looked and in 1.7.10 they called that directly, meaning the variable must be defined somewhere intrinsic to minecraft or forge, as I can never find it defined

L1094[16:02:18] <kokolihapihvi> https://github.com/kokolihapihvi/OrePings/blob/master/src/main/java/com/kokolihapihvi/orepings/client/model/ItemRenderRegister.java and here I register the item rendering stuff

L1095[16:02:35] <gr8pefish> Shambling, link your code. DO you define the button elsewhere?

L1096[16:03:33] <gr8pefish> whats happening exactly koko, is it registering the texture but not updating when it is supposed to change, or what?

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L1098[16:04:31] <kokolihapihvi> it shows up invisible, because it doesn't get the resourcelocations from the blockstate according to my debugging baseLocation etc. are null, gr8pefish

L1099[16:05:32] <gr8pefish> to clarify, it shows up invisble from the start?

L1100[16:05:36] <kokolihapihvi> for some reason forge doesn't think the model needs to be retextured

L1101[16:05:38] <kokolihapihvi> yes

L1102[16:05:39] <Shambling> gr8pefish like this?

L1103[16:05:45] <gr8pefish> yeah

L1104[16:05:47] <Shambling> weird

L1105[16:06:22] <Shambling> brb switching locations

L1106[16:06:47] <gr8pefish> Shambling, this is the error line, correct?: https://github.com/DoubleDoorDevelopment/MineTweakerRecipeMaker/blob/1.9/src/main/java/net/doubledoordev/mtrm/gui/client/elements/GuiIconButton.java#L34

L1107[16:08:44] <kokolihapihvi> gr8pefish, maybe I need to specifically register the variant specified in the blockstate?

L1108[16:09:50] <Aulus> well i figured out my problem. had nothing to do with the modes

L1109[16:10:07] <Aulus> i was using the default jvm arguments in the client and that caused the issue

L1110[16:10:20] <Aulus> specifically the -Xmn setting

L1111[16:10:35] <Shambling> gr8pefish correct

L1112[16:10:39] <gr8pefish> Shambling, here's what happening. The 'widgetTextures' param isn't defined anywhere. I have done a similar thing, and I defined the resource location as a static var at the top of my button code. Registered here: https://github.com/gr8pefish/PortableCrafting/blob/a62cfb09bdb735e216f4aea6e291ea7d749e3fd1/src/main/java/com/gr8pefish/portablecrafting/client/gui/button/PortableCrafterButton.java#L44-L44 And

L1113[16:10:39] <gr8pefish> defined here: https://github.com/gr8pefish/PortableCrafting/blob/a62cfb09bdb735e216f4aea6e291ea7d749e3fd1/src/main/java/com/gr8pefish/portablecrafting/client/gui/button/PortableCrafterButton.java#L14 It's just a sprite sheet that needs to be referenced, and I see no import for that in your code

L1114[16:10:39] <ghz|afk> -Xmn shouldn't matter much? it's just the initial allocation, isn't it?

L1115[16:11:11] <Shambling> thats what I was thinking, was looking over someone's pre-1.10.2 code

L1116[16:11:12] <Aulus> will i removed all except Xmx and Xmn and it still seemed to increase memory usage slowly over time until it was all used up

L1117[16:11:25] <gr8pefish> koko, looking over it now, will get back to you

L1118[16:11:33] <Shambling> it doesn't seem to get defined anywhere else in 1.7.10 code. So I thought maybe it was a generic forge spritesheet/minecraft spritesheet

L1119[16:11:53] <Aulus> im going to try it with xmn a bit lower than xmx

L1120[16:12:07] <Shambling> I'll pull apart the directory structure and import it manually like yours and see if that helps

L1121[16:12:50] <Shambling> I'm wondering if its referenced by a library thats no longer maintained or linked

L1122[16:13:14] <gr8pefish> could be, I have no idea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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L1124[16:14:37] <Aulus> yep its def Xmn that caused the issue. although without the mods it takes much longer for the issue to present itselff

L1125[16:14:44] <gr8pefish> Hmm, kokolihapihvi, yopur resgistry looks fine, the directory looks okay for the json (as does the structure), I don't know what it is. Perhaps try scaling back without the IRetexturable, and just get it to render as a normal IModel first? Sorry not much help here

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L1128[16:21:09] <kokolihapihvi> I tried making it only bake the oreSprite quads and that worked fine, gr8pefish

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L1130[16:21:58] <Shambling> well I finally got it to build, so time to throw it in my mods directory and see if I can use it or if I still need to tweak code. Thanks gr8pefish

L1131[16:22:47] <kokolihapihvi> my problem seems to be that it doesn't get anything from the json to the model for some reason, and it doesn't call retexture where it would assign the resourcelocations

L1132[16:22:51] <Shambling> honestly I'm tempted to just find an export all items and item names command in forge and write an external tool to do the same thing

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L1134[16:24:59] <gr8pefish> koko, I'm workign on a similar problem actually and haven't been able to figure it out, so I'm in the same boat as yourself and can't offer much at this point :/

L1135[16:25:57] <gr8pefish> when how'tonotwin (minus that apostrophe) gets on, you could try asking him, he's a rendering guru

L1136[16:26:26] <kokolihapihvi> yeah he was helping me earlier

L1137[16:27:07] <Shambling> haha, I bet that minetweakerrecipemaker requires NEI to function properly

L1138[16:27:18] <kokolihapihvi> thanks for your time anyway, I'll keep poking this in various ways and see what happens

L1139[16:27:37] <gr8pefish> yeah let me know what happens, I'm curious as to what is causing it. Gl!

L1140[16:28:11] <gr8pefish> Shamblng yeah you could check for dependencies and try and narrow it down that way, that's a good idea

L1141[16:31:12] <Shambling> well I'm thinking more along the lines of rendering any items. As I've got it rendering in game, but without inventory or ways to add items to the recipes...

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L1143[16:31:57] <Shambling> for now I think I'll just manually edit my minetweaker recipes, or find a tool to export mod item names that I can use manually

L1144[16:34:31] <gr8pefish> ah I see. Yeah, if you get the /mt name command working you could use that? (idk what it exactly was)

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L1146[16:35:55] <Shambling> oh I can export it using minetweaker itself, cheers

L1147[16:36:01] <Shambling> *slaps forhead* lol

L1148[16:37:02] <gr8pefish> Anyone know how to get this value? http://i.imgur.com/f8A7Vc5.png Or even where in the vanilla code that is?

L1149[16:38:29] <TehNut> Look at the debug screen GUI

L1150[16:38:50] <TehNut> See where it gets it :P

L1151[16:39:46] <gr8pefish> yeah, trying to find that package right now

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L1153[16:39:55] <TehNut> GuiOverlayDebug

L1154[16:40:39] <gr8pefish> thanks

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L1156[16:42:27] <TehNut> entity.rotationPitch and entity.rotationYaw

L1157[16:43:07] <gr8pefish> yup. It was MathHelper.wrapDegrees() that I was looking for (to use)

L1158[16:43:13] <TehNut> Line 131 https://gist.github.com/TehNut/9ba5c38a2689cca1713aacdfa5fd8323

L1159[16:43:14] <TehNut> 10/10

L1160[16:43:27] <gr8pefish> found it already, but ty

L1161[16:43:36] <kokolihapihvi> gr8pefish, look at ModelLoader.setBucketModelDefinition, if I apply that to my item it renders as an empty bucket.. progress? :D

L1162[16:45:12] <gr8pefish> interesting. That indicates that your model is valid, so there must be some error in either your resistry or in one of the extra methods you are overriding

L1163[16:45:32] <gr8pefish> *likely valid, can't say for sure I think

L1164[16:47:26] <kokolihapihvi> I'm gonna try copying that class 1:1 and the json files and see if I can still get an empty bucket and go from there

L1165[16:49:23] <gr8pefish> good idea. Double check that forge doesn't do anythign special with their own registry for the bucket elsewhere too, just to be sure.

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L1169[16:54:51] <shartte> cpw: You mentioned issues regarding Java 9 on Twitter. Is that still current? I've also looked into the situation a bit

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L1173[17:02:02] <kokolihapihvi> gr8pefish, I was able to make my items render as water buckets by editing that class I copied, I'm gonna bring in KDiff and look at whats actually different between my class and the class I copied

L1174[17:02:15] <gr8pefish> let me know the results, I'm curious

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L1181[17:18:37] <kokolihapihvi> gr8pefish, if I use the copied json it loads the model with bucket textures just fine, but if I use the json file I created for my item it doesn't call retexture...

L1182[17:19:01] <gr8pefish> what's the copied json?

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L1184[17:20:27] <kokolihapihvi> dynbucket.json that I extracted directly out of the forge jar

L1185[17:21:35] <howtonotwin> sorry

L1186[17:21:42] <kokolihapihvi> I changed base and cover to my textures and now it shows a ping with water inside, I'm confused D:

L1187[17:21:43] <howtonotwin> hello how do you do koko

L1188[17:21:57] <howtonotwin> well it takes textures from the fluid registry

L1189[17:21:59] <howtonotwin> change it

L1190[17:22:07] <kokolihapihvi> okay let me fill you in

L1191[17:22:28] <howtonotwin> actually just pastebin it and I'll se

L1192[17:22:30] <howtonotwin> *see

L1193[17:22:35] <gr8pefish> hmm yeah I let howto figure it out

L1194[17:22:36] <kokolihapihvi> i copied the dynbucket class, made it render the ore texture instead of fluid, and everything seems fine there, but it renders invisible

L1195[17:22:41] <kokolihapihvi> retexture didn't get called at all

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L1197[17:23:15] <howtonotwin> code and json?

L1198[17:23:22] <kokolihapihvi> now I copied the default dynbucket stuff 1:1 and got my things to render as buckets, then hardcoded it to show water, and changed the json to use my textures

L1199[17:23:53] <kokolihapihvi> let me check something first

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L1201[17:25:30] <blood_> williewillus: around

L1202[17:26:05] <kokolihapihvi> okay howtonotwin, you want my attempt at replicating dynbucket or what I'm messing around with now?

L1203[17:26:16] <howtonotwin> whatever you have now

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L1205[17:31:14] <kokolihapihvi> here you go: http://pastebin.com/hTtRtfpL

L1206[17:31:34] <kokolihapihvi> that's basically rendering my ping with water inside

L1207[17:32:46] <howtonotwin> well if you remove the fluid stuff and replace it with block stuff that may help

L1208[17:32:51] <howtonotwin> just a hunch :P

L1209[17:33:08] <kokolihapihvi> http://pastebin.com/uKGb3ya2

L1210[17:33:26] <howtonotwin> glorious!

L1211[17:33:27] <kokolihapihvi> and there is my earlier attempt that doesn't get its retexture called and ends up rendering nothing

L1212[17:33:35] <gr8pefish> you have buckfet_fluid

L1213[17:33:38] <gr8pefish> not bucket_fluid

L1214[17:33:52] <kokolihapihvi> shouldn't matter since retexture doesn't get called?

L1215[17:34:07] <kokolihapihvi> would only end up not drawing the in-between layer?

L1216[17:34:36] <blood_> anyone have issues with the new EntityDataManager causing ClassCastExceptions for custom entities?

L1217[17:36:14] <kokolihapihvi> oh and for reference OrePingsMod.MODID = "ore_pings", dont know why I used that

L1218[17:36:44] <kokolihapihvi> anyway it calls process and then bake, it skips retexture for some reason and I havent been able to figure out why D:

L1219[17:37:26] <howtonotwin> perhaps debug it?

L1220[17:37:43] <howtonotwin> retexturing is ModelProcessingHelper.retexture

L1221[17:37:47] <howtonotwin> or something close

L1222[17:37:57] <howtonotwin> and it gets called from like two places

L1223[17:38:02] <kokolihapihvi> I did with breakpoints, but it should be called automatically and it's not :/

L1224[17:38:23] <kokolihapihvi> can I add breakpoints to forge code?

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L1226[17:38:36] <howtonotwin> ofc

L1227[17:39:00] <kokolihapihvi> oh, didn't even consider that

L1228[17:39:41] <Shambling> I wonder what the heck I broke when testing that mod. I can't generate new maps now, lol

L1229[17:40:00] <Shambling> I deleted the jar, I'd think that would be all I should need to revert :O

L1230[17:40:15] <Shambling> infinite building terrain

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L1232[17:41:07] <xbony2|afk> Quick question- how do I run a core mod in a dev environment?

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L1234[17:42:19] <shadowfacts> xbony2, add the -Dfml.coreMods.load=your.core.Plugin JVM argument to your launch config

L1235[17:44:53] <gr8pefish> howtonotwin, it's not really strictly rendering, but do you know the gl rotate math for making a player horizontal? I.e. flying like superman (whichever direction they are facing)? I didn't think it would be that hard but it is stumping me.

L1236[17:45:07] <howtonotwin> see elytra?

L1237[17:46:08] <gr8pefish> I did, it's just some confusing code. Plus they hardcoded in some eltyraRotation values to the player that make it not easy to abstract out to a simple rotation call(s)

L1238[17:46:19] <gr8pefish> if you don't know it's okay, just thought I'd ask

L1239[17:46:32] <kokolihapihvi> only check before calling retexture seems to be "instanceof IRetexturedModel"

L1240[17:47:27] <howtonotwin> yeah sorry gr8pe

L1241[17:47:43] <gr8pefish> np

L1242[17:48:21] <howtonotwin> you can also breakpoint the thing that renders items in RenderItem and see what model is used for your item

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L1245[17:53:19] <xbony2> shadowfacts: thank you. However, this does not appear to have any effect. Did I screw something up? http://i.imgur.com/DbbdSwH.png

L1246[17:53:50] <shadowfacts> Is that the program arguments or the JVM arguments?

L1247[17:54:22] <shadowfacts> there should be a separate field labeled JVM/Java arguments or something like that

L1248[17:54:30] <shadowfacts> the -Dfml.coreMods.load option should go there

L1249[17:54:46] <xbony2> it says "program arguments" in the picture :P "VM arguments" is under it

L1250[17:55:00] <xbony2> wait, it should be in the second?

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L1252[17:55:14] <shadowfacts> yes, it should be in VM arguments

L1253[17:55:18] <xbony2> okay

L1254[17:55:21] <xbony2> thank you :D

L1255[17:57:03] <kokolihapihvi> howtonotwin, for some reason my class does not invoke ForgeVariant, which calls retexture on my other test class

L1256[17:57:32] <howtonotwin> how are you registering the item model?

L1257[17:58:12] <kokolihapihvi> it's in this paste: http://pastebin.com/hTtRtfpL

L1258[17:58:32] <kokolihapihvi> I just change ModelDynBucketTest to ModelDynPing

L1259[18:00:27] <howtonotwin> well you see

L1260[18:00:38] <howtonotwin> the custom model loader shadows the json

L1261[18:01:16] <howtonotwin> 1) give them different names 2) the item model goes to the JSON, not the custom model 3) drop the mesh definition crap

L1262[18:01:31] <howtonotwin> all your items have metadata 0, no?

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L1264[18:01:37] <kokolihapihvi> yes

L1265[18:01:52] <howtonotwin> in that case you just need ModelLoader.setCustomMRL(item, 0, MRL_GOES_HERE)l

L1266[18:01:54] <howtonotwin> *;

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L1271[18:10:45] <kokolihapihvi> for some reason my ModelDynPing goes through an entirely different route in ModelLoader

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L1274[18:11:08] <kokolihapihvi> ModelDynBucketTest goes through loadVariantItemModels

L1275[18:12:21] <williewillus> does the new 1.10 minetweaker or whatever it's called have a maven?

L1276[18:12:58] <howtonotwin> you change their RLs?

L1277[18:13:01] <howtonotwin> *changed

L1278[18:14:32] <kokolihapihvi> yeah between dynbucket and dynping

L1279[18:15:38] <howtonotwin> no

L1280[18:15:49] <howtonotwin> you have to understand how the bucket works first

L1281[18:15:59] <howtonotwin> the item is set to forge:dynbucket

L1282[18:16:03] <howtonotwin> which is a real JSON

L1283[18:16:03] <ghz|afk> williewillus: I didn't find one, so I deobf'd the jar and put it in libs/ myself

L1284[18:16:09] <howtonotwin> that you find in assets

L1285[18:16:17] <williewillus> bleh

L1286[18:16:18] <howtonotwin> and is not special in any way shape or form

L1287[18:16:20] <howtonotwin> it's just JSON

L1288[18:16:33] <williewillus> is copying the api into src/api/java/ still a valid thing or is that frowned on now

L1289[18:16:35] <howtonotwin> the JSON refers to forge:forgebucket

L1290[18:16:35] <ghz|afk> williewillus: although looking closer

L1291[18:16:36] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/jaredlll08/CraftTweaker/blob/master/build.gradle

L1292[18:16:38] <ghz|afk> see there

L1293[18:16:39] <howtonotwin> something completely different

L1294[18:16:49] <ghz|afk> description 'CraftTweaker'

L1295[18:16:49] <ghz|afk> url 'https://github.com/jaredlll08/CraftTweaker'

L1296[18:17:02] <howtonotwin> which is related to your custom IModel via ICustomModelLoader

L1297[18:17:07] <ghz|afk> eh I didn't mean to paste that

L1298[18:18:11] <williewillus> wait that's just the url of the project

L1299[18:18:15] <ghz|afk> yeah

L1300[18:18:19] <williewillus> repository(url: "file://" + System.getenv("local_maven"))

L1301[18:18:19] <howtonotwin> in your case the model loader says "if domain = modid and path contains ping, I do a thing"

L1302[18:18:19] <ghz|afk> that's why I didn't mean to paste

L1303[18:18:21] <howtonotwin> which is broken

L1304[18:18:28] <ghz|afk> but I pressed ctrl-v regardless for some stupid reason

L1305[18:18:30] <howtonotwin> because the json's name contains "ping"

L1306[18:18:37] <williewillus> anyways i'll just copy the api ><

L1307[18:18:38] <howtonotwin> therefore it intercepts the json

L1308[18:18:59] <howtonotwin> and then everything breaks

L1309[18:19:08] <howtonotwin> because it is not supposed to intercept the json

L1310[18:19:13] <kokolihapihvi> oh so forge thinks it tries to load itself with the customloader?

L1311[18:19:20] <kashike> williewillus: https://jitpack.io/#jaredlll08/CraftTweaker/

L1312[18:19:24] <kashike> jitpack is love

L1313[18:19:30] <howtonotwin> d(*^~)

L1314[18:20:32] <williewillus> seems cheaty but good enough lol

L1315[18:21:44] <ghz|afk> will that even work, given that the repository contains multiple sub-projects each one generating its own jar?

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L1317[18:23:10] <kokolihapihvi> okay yeah it seems to be that... wow..

L1318[18:23:19] <williewillus> yeah i'll just use libs/ lol

L1319[18:23:24] <williewillus> i just drop in and rebuild right

L1320[18:24:00] <ghz|afk> well you will want gradle to know about it

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L1322[18:24:30] <ghz|afk> I ended up with

L1323[18:24:31] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/gigaherz/Survivalist/blob/master/build.gradle#L76

L1324[18:24:45] <ghz|afk> but then I had to add

L1325[18:24:46] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/gigaherz/Survivalist/blob/master/build.gradle#L54

L1326[18:24:53] <ghz|afk> to avoid the entire crafttweaker being shaded

L1327[18:24:55] <ghz|afk> ¬¬

L1328[18:29:10] <williewillus> I get "> Only allowed to use maven dependencies for this. If its a jar file, deobfuscate it yourself."

L1329[18:29:39] <williewillus> oh derp

L1330[18:29:42] <williewillus> i put deobfCompile

L1331[18:30:36] <ghz|afk> [01:16] (ghz|afk): williewillus: I didn't find one, so I deobf'd the jar and put it in libs/ myself

L1332[18:30:37] <ghz|afk> ;P

L1333[18:37:46] <kokolihapihvi> it's working now how I intended, thank you so much howtonotwin <3

L1334[18:37:52] <howtonotwin> np

L1335[18:38:09] <kokolihapihvi> next I need someone who knows opengl

L1336[18:38:17] <howtonotwin> also you see willie up there? he's model guru #2, after fr.y :P

L1337[18:38:46] <williewillus> i'm not good at gl :P

L1338[18:38:54] <williewillus> just how the model system behaves

L1339[18:40:11] <howtonotwin> Oh scala lets me define final abstract classes

L1340[18:40:19] <howtonotwin> I thought that was just for Int and stuff

L1341[18:40:22] <howtonotwin> huh

L1342[18:40:33] <kokolihapihvi> when I use the ping, held item rendering seems to break: http://puu.sh/rLsmx/31c4b62e78.png

L1343[18:40:52] <kokolihapihvi> I render the ores manually with opengl

L1344[18:40:58] <williewillus> you're leaking something

L1345[18:41:02] <kokolihapihvi> hooray for infinite debugging of things i don't fully understand

L1346[18:41:11] <williewillus> show code for the thing that renders the ores

L1347[18:41:43] <kokolihapihvi> https://github.com/kokolihapihvi/OrePings/blob/master/src/main/java/com/kokolihapihvi/orepings/client/PingRenderer.java#L68

L1348[18:42:47] <kokolihapihvi> oh, and PingBlock is here: https://github.com/kokolihapihvi/OrePings/blob/master/src/main/java/com/kokolihapihvi/orepings/client/PingBlock.java

L1349[18:44:56] <kokolihapihvi> I think only thing I don't reset to how it was is the glBlendFunc

L1350[18:45:41] <williewillus> use GlStateManager

L1351[18:46:35] <kokolihapihvi> use that to push and pop attrib/matrix?

L1352[18:47:00] <williewillus> for anything GL11, replace it with GlStateManager where available. except for pushAttrib and popAttrib

L1353[18:47:08] <williewillus> because they're broken in vanilla .-.

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L1357[18:51:58] <kokolihapihvi> yeah that fixed it, thanks williewillus

L1358[18:52:07] <williewillus> np

L1359[18:52:38] <kokolihapihvi> can I do anything about the rendered cubes being shaky when I move?

L1360[18:52:52] <williewillus> what do you mean by shaky?

L1361[18:53:13] <kokolihapihvi> almost like their position only updates every so often

L1362[18:53:42] <williewillus> also you probably want to update your renderer to draw the actual models of things instead of a cube of quads

L1363[18:53:46] <williewillus> since that's how things work now

L1364[18:54:14] <kokolihapihvi> no I like only rendering faces that point outwards, or is that handled in the blockstate now?

L1365[18:54:29] <williewillus> you can't just draw faces now because of models

L1366[18:54:41] <williewillus> if my ore's model is not a solid cube then it's not goign to look right

L1367[18:55:05] <LexMobile> Mm mud

L1368[18:55:09] <kokolihapihvi> I noticed when I tried this with Thaumcraft crystals

L1369[18:55:52] <kokolihapihvi> what I meant was; if I render the model for all the ores, if two ores are next to each others, does it render the faces that are between those ores?

L1370[18:56:31] <williewillus> the vanilla/true world renderer doesn't. I'm sure there's a way to do so for manual rendering but no precise answer

L1371[18:56:54] <kokolihapihvi> but that's the reason I draw a cube

L1372[18:57:08] <williewillus> except that your drawing is not accurate anymore

L1373[18:57:12] <kokolihapihvi> and for this I don't mind if your pretty crystals show up as cubes for the ping :p

L1374[18:57:17] <williewillus> and probably slower than if you just drew models

L1375[19:00:02] <kokolihapihvi> probably, but rendering quads isn't exactly the slowest of things

L1376[19:00:29] <williewillus> okay, where are you getting the texture to draw this cube?

L1377[19:00:47] <kokolihapihvi> https://github.com/kokolihapihvi/OrePings/blob/master/src/main/java/com/kokolihapihvi/orepings/client/PingRenderer.java#L82

L1378[19:00:57] <kokolihapihvi> its only bound once for all the rendering per drawpass

L1379[19:01:12] <williewillus> no, the atlas sprite

L1380[19:01:14] <williewillus> where are you getting it?

L1381[19:01:27] <kokolihapihvi> the particle texture of a block probably

L1382[19:01:43] <kokolihapihvi> yep, https://github.com/kokolihapihvi/OrePings/blob/master/src/main/java/com/kokolihapihvi/orepings/client/PingBlock.java#L28

L1383[19:01:44] <williewillus> that's not going to be accurate at all :P

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L1385[19:03:00] <kokolihapihvi> so you're saying I should store the blockstate instead and draw the model for that state?

L1386[19:03:08] <williewillus> yes

L1387[19:03:19] <kokolihapihvi> but I don't like seeing in-between faces that should be culled :(

L1388[19:04:19] <williewillus> then actually build a chunk render object like MC does and upload it, but that's a lot more complicatred

L1389[19:04:20] <williewillus> https://github.com/Lunatrius/Schematica/tree/master/src/main/java/com/github/lunatrius/schematica/client/renderer

L1390[19:04:57] <kokolihapihvi> would get rid of the shaking as well, right?

L1391[19:05:03] <Lunatrius> Avoid basing anything on that, it should be rewritten ^

L1392[19:05:13] <williewillus> the shaking is probably unrelated

L1393[19:05:18] <Lunatrius> Shaking?

L1394[19:05:35] <williewillus> his renders are "shaking" but idk what that means

L1395[19:05:52] <Lunatrius> There's 2 types of "shaking"

L1396[19:05:56] <kokolihapihvi> I'm drawing quads in RenderWorldLastEvent, and whenever they move they seem to lag behind

L1397[19:06:03] <kokolihapihvi> I mean whenever I move

L1398[19:06:12] <williewillus> are you using partial ticks?

L1399[19:06:12] <Ordinastie> your translation is wrong

L1400[19:06:31] <kokolihapihvi> what does that mean?

L1401[19:06:49] <williewillus> do you use the partial ticks variable in RenderWorldLastEvent

L1402[19:06:49] <Ordinastie> https://github.com/Ordinastie/MalisisCore/blob/1.9.4/src/main/java/net/malisis/core/renderer/MalisisRenderer.java#L479-L482

L1403[19:07:12] <kokolihapihvi> no

L1404[19:07:29] <Lunatrius> That will fix it ^

L1405[19:07:43] <williewillus> yeah, it's shaking becaues it's not interpolating smoothly

L1406[19:08:34] <Lunatrius> After you're done with that teleport to x = 2 million or something

L1407[19:08:53] <kokolihapihvi> to see some floating point precision loss? :)

L1408[19:09:06] <Lunatrius> Aye

L1409[19:10:50] <kokolihapihvi> yeah that fixed the shaking, thanks <3

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L1411[19:11:41] <kokolihapihvi> you guys think I should go for the chunk renderer instead of what I have now?

L1412[19:12:14] <williewillus> it seems really invovled so what you have now will "work"

L1413[19:12:28] <williewillus> but it might look really ugly for blocks with custom models

L1414[19:12:33] <kokolihapihvi> my thoughts exactly :)

L1415[19:13:08] <williewillus> if there is a cleaner way to do the chunk upload method i would do it but I don't know everything involved

L1416[19:15:49] <Ordinastie> what should be done is rendering the actual models, but passing a custom impl of IBlockAccess to the block renderer

L1417[19:16:48] <williewillus> rendering the actual models instead of a cube should not be that much more expensive

L1418[19:16:51] <williewillus> if done properly

L1419[19:17:40] <Ordinastie> well, no need to draw after each block for start

L1420[19:18:21] <williewillus> yeah

L1421[19:24:08] <kokolihapihvi> I could add a config option for that, like useBlockModels: true

L1422[19:24:25] <kokolihapihvi> so if you happen to have only block-shaped ores you could enjoy the neater quads :p

L1423[19:25:03] <williewillus> if you had "block-shaped ores" using models would give you the exact same result....

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L1425[19:25:27] <kokolihapihvi> except it would draw the faces I cull when I draw with quads manually

L1426[19:27:03] <kokolihapihvi> so how do I draw a model in the world from a BlockState?

L1427[19:27:45] <williewillus> start the tessellator, get the baked model, addVertexData(model.getVertexData()) for ALL models. tess.draw

L1428[19:29:04] <kokolihapihvi> I call draw for each cube individually, oops :p

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L1430[19:29:26] <williewillus> that's a significant overhead

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L1432[19:30:22] <kokolihapihvi> so should I store IBlockState or IBakedModel in my PingBlock data-holding class? is it expensive to dig the model of a block every frame?

L1433[19:30:47] <williewillus> 1. either 2. if modders are not being stupid, no

L1434[19:31:04] <kokolihapihvi> thinking about it, the state probably doesn't change during the duration of the ping...

L1435[19:31:05] <williewillus> mc already does that every time a block change happens

L1436[19:31:29] <kokolihapihvi> and even if it did, youd see the block as it was at the time you pinged

L1437[19:31:58] <kokolihapihvi> redstone ore I guess would be one example?

L1438[19:38:39] <kokolihapihvi> this seems too awkward to be right, IBakedModel.getQuads(state,side,random), do I need to get quads for all the sides individually?

L1439[19:43:42] <Aulus> the other guy on my server has a problem on some blocks only where he can't destroy the resource.

L1440[19:44:04] <Aulus> I can destroy the same one with just my hand then he tries a block somewhere else in the world and it works

L1441[19:44:08] <Aulus> anyone seen that before?

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L1443[19:46:23] <Shambling> does the players inventory count the hotbar and main inventory, or does it count the armor slots as well in 1.10.2 if you use a capability to expose it?

L1444[19:47:50] <Shambling> messing around with projecte's auto-repair talisman and other repair items, and they all skip equipped armor

L1445[19:48:55] <TehNut> You mean by using player.getCapability()?

L1446[19:49:26] <Shambling> IItemHandler inv = player.getCapability(CapabilityItemHandler.ITEM_HANDLER_CAPABILITY, EnumFacing.UP) is what projecte uses

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L1448[19:49:51] <Shambling> I'm looking at the code, and everything seems to say that it should repair the armor as well, so I'm wondering if armor isn't inventory

L1449[19:50:01] <wundrweapon> as expected, plopping 1.7.10 code into 1.10.2 throws 87 errors XD

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L1451[19:50:43] <Shambling> it worked in 1.7.10's version, but I can't seem to find the source to compare by

L1452[19:50:50] <wundrweapon> anyways, IRecipe has a getRemainingItems() thing now, and it doesn't have a doc in it's code, so what does it do?

L1453[19:50:52] <Shambling> not to mention the 1.7.10 version didn't use capabilities

L1454[19:51:31] <TehNut> UP returns playerMainHandler which is just the main inventory I think

L1455[19:51:48] <TehNut> So hotbar + the 27 slots above it

L1456[19:52:04] <TehNut> No armor, no offhand

L1457[19:52:04] <Shambling> that makes sense, though the naming convention is weird...

L1458[19:52:31] <TehNut> If you use null instead of UP, you'll get main, armor, and offhand

L1459[19:53:01] <TehNut> A horizontal facing will give armor and offhand

L1460[19:53:24] <TehNut> Look at EntityPlayer#getCapability

L1461[19:53:47] <Shambling> I'm looking at enumfacing, and it reminds me of the up down left right north south east west thing that steve's factory manager used to use

L1462[19:54:12] <Shambling> so yeah that makes sense that null basically gives all, as you're not defining a direction

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L1467[20:02:04] <howtonotwin> Am I right in saying that Minecraft.getMinecraft().getRenderItem().getItemModelMesher().getModelManager() and Minecraft.getMinecraft().getBlockRenderDispatcher().getBlockModelShapes().getModelManager() are equal and that getModel on either will return the same thing?

L1468[20:02:35] <howtonotwin> from the code it looks like it but I'm afraid that I might have missed something

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L1470[20:03:38] <TehNut> I'm like 99% sure you're right

L1471[20:04:50] <williewillus> Shambling: did it repair armor in 1.7?

L1472[20:04:57] <williewillus> if so then it's just a derp i made when moving to caps

L1473[20:05:56] <Shambling> williewillus yes it did, I'm trying to recompile but that zen stuff for craftweaker is throwing me off on the recompile

L1474[20:06:13] <Shambling> is there a dev jar from craftweaker somewhere I'm just too derpy to find?

L1475[20:06:25] <williewillus> okay will fix. for the build you need a deobfed crafttweaker in libs/

L1476[20:06:40] <williewillus> i had to deobf it myself using bon2 but maybe they have them hosted somewhere

L1477[20:07:02] <Shambling> thats what I thought, having a heck of a time finding that. that makes sense, I'll see if I can find a deobf program

L1478[20:07:07] <kokolihapihvi> Minecraft.getMinecraft().getBlockRendererDispatcher().getModelForState(world.getBlockState(pos)).getQuads(null, null, 0); always gives me an empty list :/

L1479[20:07:11] <williewillus> use BON2

L1480[20:07:33] <Shambling> cool thanks

L1481[20:07:39] <howtonotwin> well it's a block model

L1482[20:07:44] <howtonotwin> it expects an IBlockState

L1483[20:08:02] <howtonotwin> in getQuads

L1484[20:08:06] <williewillus> why do you need the quads manually?..

L1485[20:08:19] <williewillus> oh nvm ibakedmodel doesn't have getVertexData

L1486[20:08:23] <williewillus> i forgot where that method was

L1487[20:08:26] <kokolihapihvi> to pass them to VertexBuffer to be drawed

L1488[20:08:36] <kokolihapihvi> yeah that

L1489[20:08:42] <williewillus> yess, you need to give it an actual iblockstate

L1490[20:08:49] <williewillus> and every side

L1491[20:08:54] <williewillus> and a null side for genquads

L1492[20:09:32] <howtonotwin> explanation: you know face culling?

L1493[20:09:42] <Shambling> williewillus that bon2 jar, do I just use any forge version, or is there a way to update it to know about 1.10 forge?

L1494[20:09:58] <williewillus> it picked up my current mappings automatically

L1495[20:10:01] <howtonotwin> where if an opaque block is on the side of a block certain faces just don't render?

L1496[20:10:01] <williewillus> it probably looks in your gradle cache

L1497[20:10:13] <howtonotwin> this is how face culling happens

L1498[20:10:27] <Shambling> which is weird, because I've not got a single version of 1.8 or 1.7 forge on here, lol

L1499[20:10:42] <howtonotwin> each side has certain quads (faces) associated

L1500[20:11:03] <howtonotwin> and when a side is decided to be culled, those faces are just not queried and therefore not rendered

L1501[20:11:12] <kokolihapihvi> yeah I did face culling when I drawed each face with a quad manually

L1502[20:11:15] <TehNut> williewillus: I believe Jared has put it on a maven recently

L1503[20:11:35] <williewillus> you know where? and does it have dev/deobf?

L1504[20:11:37] <kokolihapihvi> are the faces culled when i ask the model of a block like this?

L1505[20:11:41] <howtonotwin> so each of the 6 facings gives you the list of quads associated with that side that may not be rendered due to culling

L1506[20:11:44] <williewillus> ^

L1507[20:11:48] <howtonotwin> and null gives you the rest

L1508[20:12:03] <howtonotwin> culling is done far away from all this

L1509[20:12:17] <TehNut> I'm not 100% sure

L1510[20:12:24] <TehNut> Don't think he has deobf builds

L1511[20:12:31] <TehNut> Does deobfCompile not work for it?

L1512[20:12:37] <howtonotwin> where it's basically "should I cull side s? if no get quads for side s; if yes ignore it."

L1513[20:14:01] <TehNut> http://blamejared.com/maven/

L1514[20:14:02] <TehNut> there

L1515[20:14:36] <williewillus> ah excellent

L1516[20:14:43] <howtonotwin> you can do this to prettify your render too

L1517[20:14:59] <howtonotwin> and eliminate those ghastly internal faces of coal :P

L1518[20:15:35] <kokolihapihvi> yeah, problem is it's not rendering anything at the moment :/

L1519[20:16:38] <williewillus> well did you get Quads for all the other sides?

L1520[20:16:50] <williewillus> and pass an actual IBLockState in?

L1521[20:17:02] <kokolihapihvi> yes

L1522[20:17:09] <williewillus> show code

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L1525[20:21:24] <kokolihapihvi> here: http://pastebin.com/uapKMwPZ

L1526[20:21:52] <wundrweapon> since doesContainerItemLeaveCraftingGrid no longer exists, what's the 1.10.2 equivalent?

L1527[20:21:55] <kokolihapihvi> wait did I just derp again

L1528[20:22:17] <williewillus> did you remember rend.begin and tess.draw() :P

L1529[20:22:21] <kokolihapihvi> yes. yes I did

L1530[20:22:34] <kokolihapihvi> I assume you'd need to say where you wanted it to draw, right?

L1531[20:22:46] <williewillus> heh yeah

L1532[20:23:17] <williewillus> i forgot which it was you're supposed to use, glstatemanager.translate or vb.setTranslation

L1533[20:23:32] <williewillus> but your models are probably rendering at 0. 0 right now lol

L1534[20:24:15] <kokolihapihvi> VertexBuffer.setTranslation?

L1535[20:24:40] <Shambling> hey cheers for the suggestions, and yeah replacing enumfacing.up with just plain null repairs offhand and armor

L1536[20:24:50] <kokolihapihvi> that seems to mess up everything, all menus and even the main camera view draws at an offset

L1537[20:24:58] <Shambling> also, vanilla sleeping in bed causing the game to get stuck is still as awesome as ever

L1538[20:25:17] <williewillus> ? beds causing the game to get stuck?

L1539[20:25:33] <Shambling> sleep in bed, gets stuck in sleeping animation with no way to exit bed besides closign game

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L1541[20:25:40] <Shambling> teleport doesn't even work when that vanilla bug hits lol

L1542[20:25:55] <Shambling> and thats not due to projecte, it was just a side effect of me testing the change and sleeping afterwards

L1543[20:26:08] <williewillus> huh

L1544[20:26:15] <williewillus> did you try /setblock-ing the bed away

L1545[20:26:20] <Shambling> I'm thinking if you place a chest near your bed, and you wake up in a wall, it makes you forever stuck in your bed until you alt-f4

L1546[20:26:57] <Shambling> I'll try that next time it happens

L1547[20:27:21] <Shambling> kind of irritating that its still in game, thought it only happened when I alt-tabbed while sleeping, hvaen't had it happen in 2 months, then bam 3 times in a day

L1548[20:27:51] <kokolihapihvi> all I get is this at 0,0,0 coords: http://puu.sh/rLy05/189ac66048.png

L1549[20:27:57] <kokolihapihvi> I'm really confused again D:

L1550[20:30:38] <kokolihapihvi> do the BakedQuads contain all the vertex data like uv coords and vertex translations?

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L1552[20:31:25] <kokolihapihvi> and is this correct? rend.begin(GL11.GL_QUADS, DefaultVertexFormats.POSITION_TEX);

L1553[20:31:25] <howtonotwin> yep

L1554[20:31:40] <howtonotwin> ah

L1555[20:31:46] <howtonotwin> the default bake format is ITEM

L1556[20:31:57] <howtonotwin> not POSITION_TEX

L1557[20:32:36] <kokolihapihvi> ah, I changed that to BLOCK and it now resembles a coal ore block

L1558[20:32:39] <kokolihapihvi> how nice.

L1559[20:33:08] <howtonotwin> BLOCK is the same as ITEM

L1560[20:33:33] <howtonotwin> I'm sorry

L1561[20:33:38] <howtonotwin> I'm an idiot

L1562[20:33:42] <williewillus> it's "same enough" :P

L1563[20:33:49] <howtonotwin> :D

L1564[20:34:05] <kokolihapihvi> as usual :D

L1565[20:34:47] <kokolihapihvi> so how do I translate them into place like this?

L1566[20:35:07] <kokolihapihvi> I guess I'd need to translate the vertices since all the quads are now in a single draw call

L1567[20:36:25] <howtonotwin> <kokolihapihvi> VertexBuffer.setTranslation?

L1568[20:37:35] <kokolihapihvi> that only seems to translate GUI elements out of place :D howtonotwin

L1569[20:37:45] <howtonotwin> I blame night demons

L1570[20:37:49] <howtonotwin> And also my brain

L1571[20:37:52] <howtonotwin> mostly the second

L1572[20:37:53] <howtonotwin> :D

L1573[20:37:56] <howtonotwin> time to sleep

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L1576[20:38:20] <kokolihapihvi> yes. exactly

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L1578[20:41:24] <kokolihapihvi> that's probably why I didn't have them all in a single draw call before williewillus

L1579[20:42:21] <kokolihapihvi> is there an utility class for changing the vertex positions in the vertexdata array or do I have to guess the indices?

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L1585[20:58:15] <wundrweapon> I don't understand the new RegistryEvent.Register

L1586[20:58:23] <wundrweapon> I have no clue what to put in the <>

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L1588[21:11:57] <tterrag> the type of registry

L1589[21:11:59] <tterrag> Item, Block

L1590[21:12:00] <tterrag> etc

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L1595[21:26:46] <wundrweapon> when I do it's like "bruh you gotta have this <T>.register<T> thing" or whatever

L1596[21:26:56] <wundrweapon> I can't even put Object in there

L1597[21:27:19] <wundrweapon> *sigh* i gtg anyways

L1598[21:27:36] <wundrweapon> just glad I managed to port 90% of my code to 1.10.2 in such a short time

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L1616[22:24:14] <killjoy> A doozy of an ad got past adblock plus

L1617[22:24:28] <killjoy> it was a 1:17 unskippable youtube ad.

L1618[22:27:45] <luacs1998> use ublock origin

L1619[22:28:27] <tterrag> abp sells ads now

L1620[22:28:29] <tterrag> because that makes sense

L1621[22:29:20] <killjoy> the ad I got even had annotations

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L1623[22:30:54] <sham1> I thought that ABP sold ads that were not intrusive

L1624[22:30:56] <sham1> I guess not

L1625[22:31:13] <kashike> +1 for ublock origin

L1626[22:31:24] <sham1> Is it ublock or µblock

L1627[22:31:46] <kashike> the latter

L1628[22:31:52] <sham1> Okay good

L1629[22:32:03] <killjoy> there's 3 results with that name :p

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L1631[22:32:42] <tterrag> sham1: that's what they said

L1632[22:33:05] <tterrag> killjoy: "origin" is the real one

L1633[22:33:21] <sham1> Does uBlock allow me to turn itself off in certain sites

L1634[22:33:31] <sham1> Oh good

L1635[22:33:35] <killjoy> This one? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm

L1636[22:33:44] <tterrag> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm

L1637[22:33:45] <tterrag> yes

L1638[22:33:49] <tterrag> sham1: yep

L1639[22:33:58] <tterrag> it even has an advanced mode where you can configure what exactly shows on each domain

L1640[22:34:05] <tterrag> i.e. scripts, fonts, etc

L1641[22:34:23] <tterrag> so it can effectively be noscript

L1642[22:34:26] <sham1> I hope I can configure it in Youtube that I can filter ads based on which channels I don't like

L1643[22:34:34] <tterrag> probably not

L1644[22:34:43] <tterrag> considering channels don't have their own domain or even directory

L1645[22:35:03] <tterrag> that would require a specific YT API hook

L1646[22:36:07] <sham1> It would be hard

L1647[22:36:16] <sham1> But it wouldn't be impossible

L1648[22:37:02] <sham1> Yh, I slept about 5 hours last night

L1649[22:37:21] <sham1> And I have to be at school in about 1 hour 20 mins

L1650[22:37:39] <tterrag> fun

L1651[22:37:49] <sham1> What the hell

L1652[22:37:55] <sham1> I just got an ad in youtube

L1653[22:42:50] <killjoy> 5 hours? pfft. I once slept for 11 hours.

L1654[22:43:02] <sham1> But 5 is too low for me

L1655[22:43:08] <sham1> I am actually tired right now

L1656[22:43:27] <sham1> And it sucks

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