OCLogs: 2016-05-08.log

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L1[00:00:16] <SinbadEV> Omigosh... I think I finally have my head wrapped around the basic basic basics... now it's time for sleep... but I want to share the result of hours and hours and hours of effort... https://plus.google.com/+WilliamBenjaminJohnDavis/posts/DrMK2CrS59j (It's been too long since I've tried moddding anything)

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L4[00:19:46] <mezz> is there a way to update meta on a held itemstack without having it dip down?

L5[00:21:28] <TehNut> causeReequipAnimation

L6[00:21:32] <TehNut> or something like that

L7[00:21:44] <TehNut> shouldCauseReequipAnimation

L8[00:22:02] <mezz> \o/ thanks!

L9[00:22:05] <TehNut> Same for updating NBT

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L34[01:47:55] <gigimoi> SinbadEV, Is that... google plus?

L35[01:47:59] <gigimoi> I thought that was a myth

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L37[01:52:56] <gigimoi> I've got an existing model and animations, what's the best way to get that ingame short of writing the loader and rendering myself?

L38[01:53:51] <Cypher121> gigimoi: what format?

L39[01:54:05] <gigimoi> .blend, so can output to more or less any format

L40[01:54:23] <thecodewarrior> PSA: Don't try to call player.moveEntity(0, Infinity, 0)... It doesn't like that.

L41[01:54:55] <Cypher121> thecodewarrior: no shit

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L43[01:55:45] <Cypher121> gigimoi: export to .obj, there's supposed to be a loader for it. no idea how to use it though

L44[01:59:56] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20160508 mappings to Forge Maven.

L45[02:00:00] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20160508-1.9.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20160508" in build.gradle).

L46[02:00:10] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

L47[02:03:32] <Saphire> Q_Q

L48[02:03:37] * Saphire is poking authlib

L49[02:03:42] * Saphire can't debug it :|

L50[02:06:29] <kashike> what's the issue?

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L56[02:28:45] <Saphire> well.. it kinda changes the code responsible for server auth

L57[02:29:25] <Saphire> and I can't even get any output from those classes

L58[02:30:16] <Saphire> how do I even use log4j without forge? .-.

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L60[02:37:29] <Saphire> *I changed

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L64[02:42:23] <Cypher121> Saphire: LogManager.getLogger(name)

L65[02:42:47] <Saphire> uh.. nothing?

L66[02:43:01] <Saphire> ...I really need to setup dev environment

L67[02:43:07] <Cypher121> > how do I even use log4j without forge? .-.

L68[02:43:46] <Cypher121> that's how. you get logger from org.apache.logging.log4j.LogManager and use it. Simplest way, I think

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L73[02:50:32] <Tazz> any reason why my blocks would be doing this?: http://i.imgur.com/BvpO4v6.png

L74[02:51:40] <p455w0rd> what is it they're doing that they aren't supposed to be doing?

L75[02:53:28] <TehNut> Is it missing the slants if placed on a solid block?

L76[02:53:38] <TehNut> Or the shadows?

L77[02:54:52] <Yulife> TehNut it renders the slants in the air or on opaque blocks

L78[02:54:57] <Yulife> *non-opaque

L79[02:55:05] <Yulife> on solid blocks it doesnt render some parts of the models

L80[02:55:23] <Yulife> to be fair, the model is lowered because it's supposed to go on another model

L81[02:55:31] <Yulife> but it's odd that if the elements are in the ground it doesnt render them

L82[02:55:40] <TehNut> so the first thing I said was correct?

L83[02:55:42] <TehNut> :P

L84[02:56:05] <Saphire> Oh yay, it is there

L85[02:56:15] <TehNut> Does it render if you raise the model to be fully above ground?

L86[02:56:15] <Saphire> Well, i can see that it does something xD

L87[02:56:16] <Yulife> oh yeah it is tehnut :D

L88[02:56:40] <Yulife> Tehnut http://i.imgur.com/5DfS0fg.png

L89[02:56:44] <Yulife> http://i.imgur.com/LD20Kxc.png

L90[02:59:11] <TehNut> huh

L91[03:00:40] <Saphire> i guess the 'under' part is just cut-off by rendering?

L92[03:01:16] <Saphire> as soon as its 'root' or whatever is out of sight/is blocked by something? *has no experience with forge nor modelling nor rendering \o/*

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L94[03:02:26] <Yulife> yeah the elements that are not rendered are in the ground

L95[03:02:37] <Yulife> but the rest of them should this render above ground which they arent

L96[03:03:34] <Saphire> uh.. i guess those elements have some kind of 'root', right?

L97[03:03:51] * Saphire is probably just babling nonsense x.x

L98[03:06:08] <Yulife> no

L99[03:06:12] <Yulife> you probably have a point

L100[03:06:19] <Yulife> Saphire if this works I could kiss you lol

L101[03:10:29] <Yulife> nope, jsons dont have origin points :( too bad

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L104[03:13:42] <TehNut> A stupid solution would be to have two different models and determine which one to render based on the block below :p

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L107[03:18:36] <Saphire> That's.. ugly D:

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L146[05:28:34] <Cypher121> woo http://i.imgur.com/o7iFqeS.png

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L157[06:21:38] <hron84> Hi! I am a bit beginner in MC modding. As I read it on internet, consuming an item from player's inventory is done via player.inventory.consumeInventoryItem(itemFoo), however it seems like not working under 1.9. What is the new way?

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L160[06:26:26] <Cypher121> was that ever a thing?

L161[06:26:40] <Wuppy> o/

L162[06:26:50] <Cypher121> from what I see, bow just iterates over all slots and pulls first it can find

L163[06:26:57] <Cypher121> o/

L164[06:28:32] <Cypher121> hron84: just loop through the slots and find the item. look at how ItemBow does it. consumeInventoryItem is probably some bukkit shit

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L166[06:29:31] <masa> nope, it was a thing I think up to 1.8.9

L167[06:29:31] <Cypher121> holy shit, it's actually working http://i.imgur.com/lVTN8HE.png

L168[06:29:44] <Wuppy> ugh I'm so incredibly tired... this is crazy

L169[06:29:50] <Cypher121> then why did they remove it?

L170[06:29:59] <hron84> I trying to upgrade MagicClover to 1.9, and no, consumeInventoryItem was a legal Forge stuff as I see: https://github.com/konwboj/MagicClover/blob/master/src/clover/common/item/Clover.java#L45

L171[06:30:22] <Cypher121> yeah, apparently, but why tf the removed it

L172[06:31:54] <hron84> who knows. So, I really have to iterate through the entire inventory and also the hotbar?

L173[06:32:03] <masa> yes

L174[06:32:17] <masa> that's what would happen anyway in the consume method...

L175[06:32:52] <kimfy> That's a very nice book interface Cypher121 , gj

L176[06:33:01] <Cypher121> I maked these http://i.imgur.com/imyxODe.png

L177[06:33:14] <Cypher121> textures are not by me

L178[06:33:35] <hron84> looks nice

L179[06:34:47] <Cypher121> now I just need to get text, links, and recipe animations working

L180[06:34:48] <Cypher121> fml

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L182[06:35:27] <hron84> masa, so is it enough to iterate through player.inventory.mainInventory and then player.inventory.decrStackSize(index, 1)? Or should I do more?

L183[06:37:05] <masa> yep should be enough

L184[06:37:29] <masa> although if you want to include the offhand, then mainInventory isn't the right way to do it

L185[06:38:01] <auenf> hron84, http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=38592.0

L186[06:38:36] <auenf> "The vanilla bow uses ItemBow#findAmmo instead of InventoryPlayer#consumeInventoryItem"

L187[06:42:36] <hron84> errm, what is the benefit of iitemhandler api instead of just decrStackSize?

L188[06:44:46] <masa> IItemHandler is the new preferred inventory interface introduced by Forge in 1.8.9

L189[06:45:06] <masa> the vanilla IInventory and ISidedInventory are horrible and need to go away

L190[06:45:52] <masa> IItemHandler is much cleaner, can be used with the Capability system, and is much nicer for inter-operation of mods

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L192[06:49:29] <hron84> masa, so in this case, the key is the "extractItem" method?

L193[06:52:12] <masa> yes, for getting items from a slot

L194[06:52:58] <Saphire> ...

L195[06:53:01] <Saphire> SOooooo

L196[06:53:32] <Saphire> Today i was busy hacking together an authlib for a pirated minecraft, bypassing their damn launcher to make it work with the normal multimc

L197[06:53:50] <Saphire> The moment it worked (i authed and got on the server).. i got banned

L198[06:53:59] <hron84> Ahh, I found this https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/commit/a1e41f5464e77e726b4ff082aed1f9f117d55832#diff-04f496816fe379c4713b91faac0949e0R147

L199[06:54:10] <hron84> it calls decrStack on its own.

L200[06:54:10] <Saphire> And it was: a permanent server ban and /full/ forum access denied

L201[06:54:38] <Saphire> Okay, i knew that russian servers are just.. meh. But that is just..

L202[06:55:19] <masa> wtf did you expect for being an ass that uses hacked clients?

L203[06:55:25] <Saphire> uh

L204[06:55:32] <Saphire> nonono

L205[06:55:42] <Saphire> so.. i found a nice russian server

L206[06:55:49] <Saphire> the problem was that they use own hacked launcher

L207[06:56:04] <masa> those two sentences don't go together

L208[06:56:18] <Saphire> yeah.. as nice as it can get

L209[06:56:37] <masa> then you haven't seen very nice I'm guessing...

L210[06:56:58] <Saphire> *as nice as it can get for russian modded server

L211[06:57:11] <Saphire> a public server, too

L212[06:58:05] <Saphire> Sooo... i saw their launcher, flipped my shit when found that it uses own binaries, and began rewriting (actually just commenting out x.x) parts of it..

L213[06:58:41] <Saphire> the launcher used a hacked authlib, which i then modified to work standalone and then used normal launched, not for cracked MC

L214[06:58:53] <Saphire> got server and forum banned

L215[06:59:02] <Saphire> with no notice

L216[06:59:19] <Saphire> eh, i'll just go to a licensed, normal server of my friend

L217[06:59:35] <Saphire> and hope that mojang can't detect such things.. bleh

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L219[07:00:25] <masa> I wouldn't ever even try to connect to a server that uses hacked shit

L220[07:00:41] <masa> now they have your IP, unless you renewed it already

L221[07:00:51] <Saphire> hm?

L222[07:00:53] <Saphire> so?

L223[07:00:54] <masa> who knows what nice surprises they are doing to your machine :p

L224[07:00:58] <Saphire> phah

L225[07:01:11] <Saphire> launcher is hacked but opensource

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L227[07:01:45] <Saphire> and i have an enterprice-grade firewall solution running as a router

L228[07:02:00] <Saphire> and yes, it /is/ licensed

L229[07:02:29] <Saphire> well, though update license run out at january, it's still licensed

L230[07:03:58] <Saphire> sigh

L231[07:04:22] <Saphire> inb4 getting banned off this channel for mentioned working with cracked mc

L232[07:04:35] <Saphire> well, at least it was fun

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L236[07:13:10] <vox> Lex, what'd be the best option to imitate the vanilla TEISR since we can't hook into it?

L237[07:13:40] <fry> which one?

L238[07:13:54] <vox> The TileEntityItemSpecialRenderer

L239[07:14:00] <vox> Shields, skulls, etc

L240[07:14:02] <fry> which one?

L241[07:14:07] <fry> all of them?

L242[07:14:08] <vox> Shields specifically

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L244[07:17:27] <fry> only special thing about shields are their hacky textures

L245[07:18:07] <vox> Yeah, I would like to still support the shield banner system if I can

L246[07:18:14] <vox> Seems like a feature a lot of people like

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L248[07:25:25] <fry> sigh

L249[07:25:59] * fry adds fixing banners/shields on the todo list

L250[07:26:33] <vox> Thanks :)

L251[07:26:54] <vox> If there's anything I can do to help out, I'd be more than happy to

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L253[07:27:35] <Elucent> !gm func_185060_a

L254[07:33:43] <hron84> What is the best way for replacing this: FMLCommonHandler.instance().bus().register(klazz)? .bus() seems like a depreacted func.

L255[07:34:01] <hron84> not a class, an instance

L256[07:34:07] <masa> register them to the MinecraftForge event bus

L257[07:34:32] <hron84> ok, but how do you get the bus itself? The way we got it previously is deprecated.

L258[07:34:40] <masa> the old FML bus got merged to the forge one

L259[07:34:56] <masa> MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.register()

L260[07:35:02] <hron84> thanks

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L262[07:38:30] <Elucent> anyone know what happened to player.setItemInUse in 1.9? it's gone, and i can't figure out how to make this item draw back like a bow

L263[07:43:22] <hron84> Hmmm... what is the latest mapping for 1.9? I using snapshot_nodoc_20160312 because I saw it in one of the projects I know already ported to 1.9, however I read something about Item.itemRegistry became Item.REGISTRY at some point. Will it cause an issue if I do not follow this naming convention change?

L264[07:44:00] <hron84> Where do you lookup for mappings btw?

L265[07:44:09] <kashike> using MCPBot_Reborn

L266[07:44:11] <kashike> type !help

L267[07:44:44] <hron84> !help

L268[07:45:15] <kashike> hron84: all static final fields are UPPER_CASE

L269[07:45:20] <kashike> Blocks.AIR, Items.CACTUS, etc

L270[07:46:46] <hron84> kashike, so if i replace the mapping line in build.gradle is it enough if I redo the whole setDecompWorkspace stuff or I need some preparation (e.g. cleanup)

L271[07:47:01] <Ordinastie_> just setup

L272[07:47:08] <Ordinastie_> and eclipse

L273[07:47:15] <hron84> Idea, but thx.

L274[07:47:24] <Ordinastie_> then you'll need to refresh

L275[07:47:45] <LatvianModder> I use mappings = "snapshot_20160502"

L276[07:48:26] <hron84> as I see there is 0508. Is it bad if I use latest one?

L277[07:48:32] <kashike> nope

L278[07:48:35] <kashike> perfectly fine

L279[07:48:41] <LatvianModder> Yeah, thats ok

L280[07:48:45] <LatvianModder> Its just the last time I updated

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L284[07:59:07] <Prospector> Hey, if you guys wanted to get a shorter domain for the forge docs, namecheap has a $0.44 xyz domain for the first year

L285[07:59:10] <Prospector> https://www.namecheap.com/campaigns/2016/maythefourth.aspx

L286[07:59:22] <Prospector> forgedocs.xyz could be short and easy to remember

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L290[08:06:56] <hron84> yay, it seems like at least builds without an error.

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L296[08:16:42] <Mattizin> hi, when i have an item with subitems i override public String getUnlocalizedName(ItemStack stack) too get the name dependend on the metadata of the stack. how do i do the same for blocks?

L297[08:16:44] <Mattizin> :)

L298[08:18:45] <Elucent> IIRC you use an ItemBlock to do item functions like that on blocks

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L302[08:34:49] <gigaherz> HOME!

L303[08:34:54] <gigaherz> Mattizin: https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/gemstones/BlockGemstoneOre.java#L134

L304[08:35:03] <gigaherz> you override the correpsonding method in the ItemBlock

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L306[08:41:19] <vox> o/ ghz

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L308[08:43:26] <hron84> Hmmm... it seems like Minecraft.getMinecraft().getRenderItem().getItemModelMesher().register(instance, 0, ModelResourceLocation("foo:itemFoo", "inventory") does not register the right texture for the item.

L309[08:43:38] <hron84> is it changed recently?

L310[08:49:50] <masa> that is the old 1.8 way of registering things

L311[08:50:12] <masa> you should be using ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation() instead

L312[08:50:17] <vox> Yep

L313[08:52:22] <PaleoCrafter> I wonder how many mods still contain that line xD

L314[08:53:21] <Elucent> is there anything actually better about using ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation()? whenever i try to use it, it doesn't work, no error message either

L315[08:53:34] <vox> Works fine for me

L316[08:53:56] <masa> well if you count it being the proper way to do it as being actually better :p

L317[08:54:07] <hron84> Yeah, right after asking I found that solution.

L318[08:54:15] <hron84> masa, it's a preinit thing, right?

L319[08:54:28] <Elucent> but there's no functional differences for now, right?

L320[08:54:43] <masa> yes

L321[08:54:51] <masa> to hron84

L322[08:55:00] <PaleoCrafter> There are, Elucent

L323[08:55:02] <masa> Elucent: not sure, but don't use old shit in new code please

L324[08:55:20] <hron84> I really hope it will make the item render correctly.

L325[08:56:18] <PaleoCrafter> setCustomMRL also does that addVariant thing that used to be required

L326[08:56:45] <hron84> yippie! it is now a clover.

L327[08:56:51] <Elucent> the registerItemVariants function?

L328[08:57:30] <gigaherz> woah

L329[08:57:33] <gigaherz> Tucows went ad-free

L330[08:57:42] <gigaherz> the woah part is that Tucows still exists.

L331[08:58:12] <gigaherz> [15:43] (hron84): is it changed recently?

L332[08:58:19] <gigaherz> only if "recently" includes a year ago

L333[08:58:34] <gigaherz> the new method was introduced approximately april last year

L334[08:58:48] <gigaherz> but tutorial writers can't be bothered to fix their broken tutorials

L335[09:00:14] <Elucent> while we're on this topic, does anyone see a problem with this code: http://pastebin.com/b5H1s0z1?

L336[09:00:49] <gigaherz> expired

L337[09:00:51] <gigaherz> repaste ;P

L338[09:00:56] <gigaherz> ah no

L339[09:00:59] <gigaherz> it's the "?" at the end

L340[09:01:35] <gigaherz> Elucent: are you calling that on PREinit?

L341[09:01:57] <Elucent> during init(), on the client proxy

L342[09:02:04] <gigaherz> yeah need to be PRE init

L343[09:02:15] <Elucent> huh, did not know that

L344[09:02:20] <gigaherz> basically

L345[09:02:26] <Elucent> that explains a lot

L346[09:02:28] <gigaherz> the old method injected new data to the existing list

L347[09:02:43] <gigaherz> the setCustomMRL method adds it to a special list that gets processed during mc initialization

L348[09:02:46] <gigaherz> between preinit and init

L349[09:02:50] <gigaherz> so if you call it at init, it's too late

L350[09:02:59] <gigaherz> the new data simply won't be accessed

L351[09:03:32] <hron84> guys, if i use setCustomModelResourceLocation, do I need to call GameRegistry.register with ResourceLocation as secondary parameter?

L352[09:03:57] <hron84> or i can just skip it?

L353[09:04:00] <gigaherz> it's unrelated

L354[09:04:19] <gigaherz> GameRegistry.register(thing) puts the object on the registry

L355[09:04:43] <hron84> but what does it do with the ResourceLocation param?

L356[09:04:44] <gigaherz> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation tells MC that the given item needs a model

L357[09:04:55] <gigaherz> you shouldn't even worry about the RL parameter

L358[09:05:04] <gigaherz> you should just be using the setRegistryName method on the item/block/whatever

L359[09:05:29] <gigaherz> theObject = new Object().setRegistryName(MODID, "objectName");

L360[09:05:36] <gigaherz> GameRegistry.register(theObject);

L361[09:05:46] <hron84> hmmm.... cool.

L362[09:05:49] <gigaherz> and if it's a block ,and you want this block to also have a correponding item,

L363[09:06:10] <gigaherz> GameRegistry.register(new ItemBlock(theblock).setRegisrtyName(theBlock.getRegistryName));

L364[09:06:29] <gigaherz> because unlike in previous versions, having an item is now opt-in, instead of opt-out

L365[09:06:38] <gigaherz> (it was always optional, just not many people knew)

L366[09:07:00] <Elucent> apparently registering color handlers crashes the game in pre-init. TIL

L367[09:07:18] <gigaherz> yes color handlers need init

L368[09:07:27] <gigaherz> because the color handling stuff has not been initialized yet

L369[09:07:31] <gigaherz> basically

L370[09:07:41] <gigaherz> you shouldn't use Minecraft.getMinecraft().*

L371[09:07:44] <gigaherz> before init

L372[09:07:52] <Elucent> makes sense, and it's an easy fix

L373[09:08:26] <baegmon> could anyone check what I'm doing wrong? I'm writing to NBT correctly and it arrives at the "YOU OWN THIS BLOCK" statement, but the event still gets cancelled. http://pastebin.com/ZnqK6G3e

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L375[09:10:21] <gigaherz> baegmon: there is one simple reason why this is just simply wrong: you assume that the player won't have tags from other mods

L376[09:11:21] <gigaherz> also

L377[09:11:32] <gigaherz> event.setCanceled means you are preventing the player from placing blocks

L378[09:11:53] <gigaherz> so if the player hasn't placed anything yet, the player can never place anything at all, ever

L379[09:12:14] <gigaherz> also storing a list of blocks like that sounds like a really bad idea

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L381[09:12:30] <baegmon> so uh I don't have any other mods so I think that should be fine. Also, this is breakblock event, I have checked that the blocks are placing right

L382[09:12:52] <hron84> Another question: is there a way to decrease the size of the held item model? It appears too big.

L383[09:13:00] <gigaherz> hron84: yes

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L385[09:13:15] <gigaherz> are you using an item model json?

L386[09:13:19] <gigaherz> and this is 1.9 right?

L387[09:13:25] <hron84> yeah, 1.9

L388[09:13:32] <gigaherz> then use

L389[09:13:33] <hron84> errmm... let me check

L390[09:13:45] <gigaherz> "parent": "item/generated" instead of "builtin/generated"

L391[09:13:52] <gigaherz> or

L392[09:14:03] <gigaherz> "parent" : "block/block" instead of no parent at all

L393[09:14:05] <hron84> yeah i found it

L394[09:14:14] <hron84> "parent": "builtin/generated",

L395[09:14:16] <gigaherz> or you can have a custom "display" wit hcustom transforms

L396[09:14:28] <gigaherz> yeah then change "builtin" to "item

L397[09:14:39] <gigaherz> item/generated is a stock json file

L398[09:14:44] <gigaherz> with the default transforms for an item

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L400[09:14:49] <gigaherz> and if your item is a tool/weapon

L401[09:14:50] <hron84> oooh, i found it. is it the scale property right?

L402[09:14:50] <gigaherz> there's others

L403[09:15:06] <gigaherz> yes, but just scaling could cause it to be placed wrongly

L404[09:15:17] <gigaherz> hence why it's best to just use one of the default transforms

L405[09:15:36] <hron84> https://github.com/konwboj/MagicClover/blob/master/res/assets/magicclover/models/item/clover.json

L406[09:15:45] <hron84> this is the actual JSON

L407[09:15:56] <gigaherz> remove the "display" section

L408[09:15:57] <gigaherz> and use

L409[09:16:02] <gigaherz> "parent": "item/generated",

L410[09:16:10] <gigaherz> instead of builtin/generated

L411[09:16:11] <hron84> (it's not my mod, i just do the upgrade to 1.8)

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L413[09:16:21] <hron84> Let me check

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L415[09:18:38] <PaleoCrafter> http://s.mineformers.de/2016-05-08_16-16-57.mp4

L416[09:18:45] <PaleoCrafter> seems like I've found a bug xD

L417[09:18:59] <gigaherz> fancy

L418[09:20:06] <gigaherz> the "enchant" button should probably disappear while it's busy?

L419[09:20:06] <gigaherz> ;p

L420[09:20:22] <PaleoCrafter> well, all interaction is blocked in that period

L421[09:20:29] <PaleoCrafter> not sure how I want to signify that though :D

L422[09:20:33] <PaleoCrafter> but I guess I can remove the buttons, yeah

L423[09:20:34] <gigaherz> yeah but there's no visual indication of that

L424[09:21:43] <hron84> much better. Thank you guys. I learnt a lot.

L425[09:21:50] <gigaherz> :)

L426[09:21:50] <gigaherz> btw

L427[09:21:57] <gigaherz> if you were to make a tool or sword or similar

L428[09:22:02] <gigaherz> there' item/handheld

L429[09:22:10] <gigaherz> which makes it look more like you are holding it from the handle

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L431[09:22:48] <hron84> nah, it is a "consumable" item. Not really a food, but it spawns a random item and decreases the stack.

L432[09:23:14] <gigaherz> yeah I read

L433[09:23:24] <gigaherz> I mean IF you ewver make one ;P

L434[09:23:26] <gigaherz> -w

L435[09:23:37] <hron84> or when :P

L436[09:23:42] <hron84> okay.

L437[09:24:06] <hron84> I hope 1.9 tutorials get out soon. It seems like a bit easier than 1.8 in here and there.

L438[09:24:24] <hron84> still a headache, but.

L439[09:24:50] <gigaherz> meh, tutorials are overrated ;P

L440[09:24:56] <gigaherz> just ask around and we'll explain on the fly

L441[09:25:09] <gigaherz> people hwere are generally more up to date

L442[09:25:19] <hron84> good to know :-)

L443[09:25:20] <gigaherz> and if one makes a mistake it's easy for others to correct us

L444[09:25:20] <gigaherz> ,P

L445[09:25:22] <gigaherz> ;P*

L446[09:27:15] <vox> this is very true :P

L447[09:28:19] <vox> I wonder if I can use a LayerRenderer for shields

L448[09:28:30] <masa> yep every now and then I find something to fix or clean up from my own mod when people ask questions and then someone answers and shows code examples

L449[09:28:37] <vox> Since held items and such are rendered using those

L450[09:28:57] <ollieread> One day I'll get bored of my wifi controlled coffee machine

L451[09:29:00] <ollieread> Today is not that day

L452[09:29:24] <Biochemic> laawl xD

L453[09:29:34] <Biochemic> wifi controlled sounds nice :D

L454[09:33:10] <gigaherz> vox: IIRC, layers are thirdperson only

L455[09:33:20] <gigaherz> for first person rendering, it's a bit more annoying

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L458[09:42:29] <Jared> Hmm, anyone else experiencing this? http://www.blamejared.com/content/2016-05-08_16-29-14.txt

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L465[10:04:40] <vox> gigaherz: yeah, annoying is correct

L466[10:05:21] <vox> fr.y said he would put shields onto his todo list this morning

L467[10:05:26] <vox> * fry adds fixing banners/shields on the todo list

L468[10:05:37] <vox> Oh dang sorry for the ping

L469[10:05:49] <PaleoCrafter> I don't think fry minds being pinged

L470[10:05:54] <PaleoCrafter> fry's quite open to it, actually

L471[10:05:57] <PaleoCrafter> aren't you, fry? :P

L472[10:06:00] <vox> lol

L473[10:06:14] <fry> fry fry fry fry

L474[10:06:30] <vox> fried fry of the fried fry fry?

L475[10:06:55] <vox> Does that even work? No. Do I care? No. :P

L476[10:07:13] <vox> Anyway sup PaleoCrafter

L477[10:07:26] <vox> up to furnace immersion shenanigans yet?

L478[10:07:35] <PaleoCrafter> the furnace was the first thing I did :P

L479[10:07:41] <vox> lol

L480[10:07:46] <vox> What're you up to now?

L481[10:07:56] <PaleoCrafter> polishing it a little bit

L482[10:08:00] <PaleoCrafter> found some bugs already :D

L483[10:08:00] <PaleoCrafter> http://s.mineformers.de/2016-05-08_16-16-57.mp4

L484[10:08:07] <PaleoCrafter> and I kinda finished the enchanting

L485[10:08:53] <vox> Lol nice stacks of zero lapis

L486[10:09:14] <hron84> woow, it is a vanilla crafting table?

L487[10:09:29] <vox> Yeah that's a vanilla enchanting table I think

L488[10:09:41] <PaleoCrafter> it is going to be the vanilla one

L489[10:09:45] <PaleoCrafter> when substitutions are fixed :P

L490[10:09:51] <vox> You're bad :P

L491[10:09:55] <hron84> I really like it.

L492[10:10:04] <vox> Yeah I love it

L493[10:10:37] <vox> I also love how the total contents of your website are " Piss off, ThePsionic ;) "

L494[10:11:32] <PaleoCrafter> hehe

L495[10:11:53] <hron84> btw, is there a way to fix the player name in the minecraft client spawned by IntelliJ? I really don't like to be mr. Player654

L496[10:12:00] <vox> So the question is.... bug fry which would be totally unproductive, or work on some other mod since I'm at a dead end without rendering, or go do something else

L497[10:12:08] <vox> yeah there is, lemme find it

L498[10:12:27] <PaleoCrafter> http://s.mineformers.de/2016-05-08_17-10-33.mp4 that's the current state of the furnace

L499[10:12:33] <PaleoCrafter> not satisfied with it at all, visually xD

L500[10:12:50] <capitalthree> hron84: it's not spawned by intellij, it's spawned by forgegradle

L501[10:12:53] <PaleoCrafter> and it isn't really automatable anymore, unfortunately

L502[10:12:58] <vox> :(

L503[10:13:15] <hron84> :-(

L504[10:13:17] <shadowfacts> hron84, --username and --password options

L505[10:13:38] <hron84> shadowfacts, but how do you pass them to ForgeGradle?

L506[10:13:58] <PaleoCrafter> or --uuid and --username if you don't want to put your PW in plaintext :P

L507[10:14:04] <vox> -username=Player001

L508[10:14:05] <PaleoCrafter> hron84, open the run config, edit program arguments

L509[10:14:15] <shadowfacts> run config -> add it to the program args

L510[10:14:16] <vox> tep they're just arguments

L511[10:14:20] <vox> *yep

L512[10:14:28] <vox> You can also just specify username

L513[10:14:36] <vox> It'll still be a fake player but who cares

L514[10:14:55] <vox> And you can pretend to be deadmau5

L515[10:15:02] <hron84> Errrm. There is a problem. The default GradleStart stuffs aren't working for me. I tricked IDEA to run the MC via gradle command.

L516[10:15:06] <capitalthree> but it won't be a FakePlayer

L517[10:15:13] <capitalthree> it just won't be an auth'ed login

L518[10:15:31] <vox> hron84 oh man switch back

L519[10:15:44] <vox> the issue is that you have to set the config to start off of ProjectName_main

L520[10:15:58] <vox> Just ask, don't break things

L521[10:16:00] <vox> :P

L522[10:16:16] <hron84> Is there a ProjectName_main class somewhere?

L523[10:16:23] <vox> So yeah

L524[10:16:26] <vox> No

L525[10:16:30] <vox> It's a module

L526[10:16:42] <vox> there's PN_main PN_api and PN_test

L527[10:16:47] <hron84> I mean, ForgeGradle's setup stuff preconfigured run configurations with main class "GradleStart"

L528[10:16:53] <vox> ...

L529[10:16:56] <vox> Yes

L530[10:17:05] <hron84> modules.

L531[10:17:08] <hron84> hmm...

L532[10:17:17] <vox> You just have to switch the target module from PN to PN_main

L533[10:17:21] <vox> In the run configf

L534[10:17:33] <vox> Hold on, I'll get a screenshot

L535[10:17:54] <vox> (gimme a sec to boot idea)

L536[10:18:04] <vox> Yo Paleo hook me up with a random mod idea

L537[10:18:11] <PaleoCrafter> uhm...

L538[10:18:22] <PaleoCrafter> I'm glad I came up with this :P

L539[10:18:23] <vox> Because I'm at a dead end with these shield until the fr.yster does his forge magic

L540[10:18:25] <vox> lol

L541[10:19:42] <vox> hron84, here ya go: http://imgur.com/bHLDJT7.png

L542[10:19:44] <hron84> I usually do not do MC modding because I am absolute dumb for drawing stuffs like icons or textures. I love code, nothing else. :P

L543[10:19:57] <barteks2x> I just deleted some class I didn't need anymore. And second later I noticed that it's still there. So I deleted some other class, but I can't figure out what it was

L544[10:20:05] <gigaherz> hron84: there's plenty of coders to pair up with some artist

L545[10:20:06] <gigaherz> ;P

L546[10:20:12] <PaleoCrafter> barteks2x, IDEA? use the local history :P

L547[10:20:23] <vox> Welp, I also included a pic of part of my Spotify window

L548[10:20:35] <PaleoCrafter> there are even more coders who just say "fuck it" and use plenty of noise filters :P

L549[10:20:35] <vox> The music I'm listening to is pretty decent

L550[10:20:41] <hron84> vox: aaah, now I see!

L551[10:20:43] <vox> I have done both :D

L552[10:20:47] <vox> :D

L553[10:20:52] <barteks2x> wait, nevermind, I deleted the right one. I got confused with my ofn constantly changing class names

L554[10:20:58] <hron84> one pic tells you more than thousands of words

L555[10:21:04] <vox> Very true

L556[10:21:47] <vox> gigaherz: mod idea go

L557[10:21:56] <vox> Something not enormously huge

L558[10:21:57] <gigaherz> wat?

L559[10:22:18] <vox> Idk, I have nothing to work on until fr.y finishes forge stuff for me

L560[10:22:37] <vox> Which is going to take a while because it's one of the many things on his list, I'm sure

L561[10:22:38] <PaleoCrafter> how about trying to do the Forge stuff yourself? :P

L562[10:22:46] <gigaherz> HoverBoats?

L563[10:22:52] <vox> Man I would have no idea what I'm doing Paleo :P

L564[10:22:55] <vox> Okay, that works

L565[10:23:03] <PaleoCrafter> can't possibly go wrong then :P

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L567[10:24:22] <barteks2x> I would really like to have a whiteboard here and draw some diagrams... That would make it much easier to userstand what the hell am I doing

L568[10:24:25] <PaleoCrafter> hm... I could display the result on top of the furnace and allow taking it by right clicking, but that doesn't feel right :/

L569[10:24:41] <vox> That's not too bad actually

L570[10:24:57] <gigaherz> make the furnace spit out the smelted stuff

L571[10:24:57] <fry> barteks2x: paper + pen :P

L572[10:24:57] <vox> Maybe have a little representation like the anvil

L573[10:25:02] <gigaherz> like the thaumcraft one does/did

L574[10:25:06] <vox> That works too

L575[10:25:07] <PaleoCrafter> gigaherz, that's what I'm doing right now

L576[10:25:11] <barteks2x> The problem with paper+pen is that it's hard to change something

L577[10:25:18] <fry> paper + pencil :P

L578[10:25:20] <PaleoCrafter> but I want to keep feature parity with vanilla -> Furnace isn't really automatable anymore

L579[10:25:22] <gigaherz> pencil+eraser

L580[10:25:30] <gigaherz> sure it is

L581[10:25:33] <gigaherz> place a hopper right in front

L582[10:25:34] <gigaherz> ;P

L583[10:25:44] <barteks2x> still doesn't feel so easy to change stuff :(

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L585[10:26:02] <gigaherz> barteks2x: then go buy a whiteboard and whiteboard markers.

L586[10:26:07] <vox> Or

L587[10:26:10] <gigaherz> or get windows 10 Insider

L588[10:26:10] <PaleoCrafter> then I wouldn't be able to use vanilla's spawnStack method though, duh

L589[10:26:14] <gigaherz> and try out the Ink stuff

L590[10:26:29] <gigaherz> lets you draw on screen

L591[10:26:32] <gigaherz> and even has a ruler

L592[10:26:33] <vox> You can buy a big sheet of coated sealed white wood from a hardware store

L593[10:26:39] <vox> And whiteboard markers

L594[10:26:49] <vox> That's what my desk surface is

L595[10:27:03] <barteks2x> getting a whiteboard would be it. If I had enough space. For now I will have to eighter fight with pen/pencil+paper or use mouse to draw stuff which is not so easy

L596[10:27:14] <gigaherz> then do what vox suggests:

L597[10:27:15] <vox> http://lifehacker.com/cover-a-wall-with-a-giant-whiteboard-for-under-15-1587162959

L598[10:27:29] <gigaherz> place a layer of white-coated wood on top of your deskt

L599[10:27:32] <gigaherz> so you can draw on your desk

L600[10:27:33] <gigaherz> ;p

L601[10:27:37] <PaleoCrafter> there is software for certain types of diagrams, you know, barteks2x? :P

L602[10:27:49] <vox> I originally had it on the wall but it was... effort :P

L603[10:28:01] <barteks2x> ah, yes. Last time I tried to use them I spent entire day on one diagram

L604[10:28:12] <gigaherz> how do you call that non-wood stuff that is made out of like, cardboard fibers

L605[10:28:28] <PaleoCrafter> but it looked beautiful in the end, didn't it? :P

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L607[10:28:50] <PaleoCrafter> I can tell you the German word, gigaherz, but I doubt it'd be useful :P

L608[10:28:55] <gigaherz> barteks2x: really, just get a toll of recycled paper

L609[10:29:06] <gigaherz> roll*

L610[10:29:30] <gigaherz> packaging paper, or whatever it's called

L611[10:29:48] <gigaherz> it's not pretty, but it works well for drawing temporary stuff

L612[10:30:08] <gigaherz> http://www.ecoenclose.com/v/vspfiles/photos/PRK24-2.jpg

L613[10:30:09] <PaleoCrafter> aw, http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/brownpapers/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from= no brown paper on sale right now :D

L614[10:30:43] <PaleoCrafter> would be too precious to write on anyway xD

L615[10:30:51] <gigaherz> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/500mm-x-250m-70gsm-Brown-Paper-Roll-high-quality-recycled-packing-paper-/151487784663?hash=item23456026d7:g:bmAAAOSwajVUPZIz

L616[10:31:21] <vox> packing paper?

L617[10:31:21] <barteks2x> ^I know where I can buy it relatively close and cheap. Didn't think of using that

L618[10:31:27] <gigaherz> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-Duty-Thick-Brown-Kraft-Wrapping-Paper-FREE-P-P-/271018620412?var=570101698401&hash=item3f19f7f5fc:m:mzVKOkJKU4X8OIR3D-NTFqQ

L619[10:31:56] <PaleoCrafter> that isn't *the* brown paper though

L620[10:32:48] <gigaherz> no idea what "*the" brown paper" is

L621[10:32:54] <PaleoCrafter> Numberphile, dude

L622[10:33:14] <gigaherz> isn't that just any random brown paper?

L623[10:33:23] <PaleoCrafter> mebbe

L624[10:33:40] <PaleoCrafter> but he sells the used ones :P

L625[10:33:49] <gigaherz> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xbrown+paper+roll.TRS0&_nkw=brown+paper+roll&_sacat=0

L626[10:33:56] <PaleoCrafter> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Numberphile-Brown-paper-EPIC-CIRCLES-/381345720540 for example

L627[10:34:16] <gigaherz> OH

L628[10:34:21] <gigaherz> they ones they did draw on?

L629[10:34:25] <PaleoCrafter> yes

L630[10:34:34] <gigaherz> lol

L631[10:34:44] <fry> #capitalism

L632[10:34:54] <barteks2x> And the fun part: I will have to buy it somewhere else anyway because nobody uses ebay in my country

L633[10:35:22] <gigaherz> heh

L634[10:35:41] <hron84> vox: it worked like a charm, and I'm now also able to wear my favorite skin in even development environment too. Thanks.

L635[10:35:46] <gigaherz> it's relatively easy to get "leftovers" for free

L636[10:35:49] <vox> No problem :D

L637[10:36:03] <gigaherz> if you happen to know someone who works in a factory

L638[10:36:19] <gigaherz> some machines don't quite work well when the packing rolls get too small

L639[10:36:34] <gigaherz> or they'd rather discard it than have a half-packed pallet

L640[10:37:01] <gigaherz> although the factory where I worked a couple summers used plastic rolls, not paper

L641[10:37:12] <gigaherz> but they DISCARDED NOTHING

L642[10:37:23] <gigaherz> everything had an use in there

L643[10:38:11] <gigaherz> the boss/owner was extremely mindful of wasted resources

L644[10:38:27] <barteks2x> I apparently don't have any pencil here 0_o

L645[10:38:32] <gigaherz> lol

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L652[10:44:33] <MattDahEpic> for some reason https://gist.github.com/MattDahEpic/ff2591192cc4fafe1efeefe6d9192763#file-worldgenmobore-java-L57 never returns true so my ores never get placed in the world. any help?

L653[10:44:44] <barteks2x> I think I'm using Sets too frequently... I use almost o other structures.

L654[10:45:20] <hron84> a last question: how do you compile an obfuscated jar (one for ready to use with normal games)?

L655[10:45:58] <barteks2x> gradlew build?

L656[10:46:35] <barteks2x> at least that's what seems to work for me, output in build/libs

L657[10:46:39] <gigaherz> yeh

L658[10:46:47] <gigaherz> use the build target on gradle

L659[10:46:54] <gigaherz> and it gets compiled into build/libs

L660[10:47:14] <gigaherz> I generally use the "build" target from idea's gradle panel

L661[10:47:38] <barteks2x> I don't like doing that because it always creates a gradle daemon

L662[10:48:01] <vox> Does it? I've never noticed that

L663[10:48:31] <barteks2x> well, it only creates one and then uses it. But when I try to get setupDecompWorkspace working from idea things get bad

L664[10:48:34] <gigaherz> why woudl that be bad?

L665[10:48:46] <barteks2x> because my laptop has a limited amount of memory

L666[10:48:49] <gigaherz> I use "-Xmx3G" on gradle properties, so it endsu p creating a new jvm anyhow

L667[10:49:14] <barteks2x> And then that jvm is kept running in background as gradle daemon

L668[10:49:35] <barteks2x> I have only 8 GB ram so I have to control the amount of memory everything uses

L669[10:49:43] <gigaherz> meh

L670[10:49:49] <gigaherz> 8gb is plenty ;p

L671[10:50:00] <barteks2x> not when you use chrome

L672[10:50:01] <Biochemic> agreed

L673[10:50:12] <gigaherz> unless you run multiple VMs and/or need to play ARK:survival Evolved at the same time

L674[10:50:18] <gigaherz> then you need 32 ¬¬

L675[10:50:25] <Biochemic> xD

L676[10:50:26] <gigaherz> which is the case for my desktop

L677[10:50:34] * gigaherz has 16 atm, and is running short

L678[10:50:45] <barteks2x> Right now I have just idea, hxchat, skype, and console running and almost 5GB is used

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L680[10:51:28] <vox> I have six right now because I'm too poor to get myself any more

L681[10:51:52] <vox> Right now I'm running Spotify, FireFox, Chrome, Skype, Hexchat, and IDEA and it's fine

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L683[10:52:04] <MattDahEpic> im using 5.8 constant with chrome ,hexchat, idea, skype, discord, and steam

L684[10:52:06] <vox> Using maybe 60% of that

L685[10:52:23] <vox> Oh, and Steam/Discord in the background

L686[10:52:27] <gigaherz> barteks2x: and how much of that are OS caches? ;P

L687[10:52:27] <vox> I'm using 3.6

L688[10:52:41] <gigaherz> I'm using 11gb right now

L689[10:52:46] <barteks2x> My memory monitor excluded OS caches

L690[10:52:54] <vox> Matt, how am I using that much less RAM than you with even more open?

L691[10:52:55] <barteks2x> *excludes

L692[10:52:59] <vox> That doesn't make much sense

L693[10:53:06] <gigaherz> cached: 5gb

L694[10:53:07] <gigaherz> firefox 2gb, system 800mb, idea 500mb

L695[10:53:09] <vox> I'm going to blame it on chrome tabs

L696[10:53:12] <gigaherz> 4gb from a VM

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L698[10:53:28] <vox> Idea 226 mb at the moment for me

L699[10:53:33] <barteks2x> vox, I use The Great Suspender plugin to decrease chrome memor usage

L700[10:53:42] <vox> Huh, I'll have to look at that

L701[10:53:57] <vox> Not like I need it though really

L702[10:54:13] <gigaherz> oh, are you a tab hoarder?

L703[10:54:21] <gigaherz> I can't have > 10 tabs at any one time

L704[10:54:27] <gigaherz> it just feels wrong

L705[10:54:29] <barteks2x> Apparently Minecraft didn't close properly again and I have a half-dead instance keeping the memory

L706[10:55:36] <vox> :D

L707[10:55:48] <vox> Speaking of MC, I guess I'm going to go play some more Skyblock

L708[10:55:56] <hron84> Fun fact: I tried my mod in development env, it worked like a charm. I threw it into a instance made by Curse, and now I have " java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: net.minecraft.stats.StatBasic.registerStat()Lnet/minecraft/stats/StatBase;"

L709[10:56:09] <MattDahEpic> a mod developer actually playing *gasp*

L710[10:56:22] <barteks2x> I really need to figure out why it's doing that. I'm sure it's my mod but no idea why that happens. There is no exception anywhere

L711[10:56:25] <vox> I know right

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L713[10:56:32] <gigaherz> hron84: did you use "gradlew build"?

L714[10:56:36] <gigaherz> if oyu used jar, that's the wrong one

L715[10:57:00] <hron84> I try to recompile it then.

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L717[10:57:13] <gigaherz> make sure you use gradle build task

L718[10:57:13] <barteks2x> oh, wait. There is. But no stacktrace "because f** you": Exception in thread "File IO Thread"

L719[10:57:31] <vox> MattDahEpic: I'm really just killing time because I'm at a dead end in my mod. I can't do anything rendering-related with shields atm because Mojang is dumb

L720[10:57:49] <MattDahEpic> hmmm why do my blocks have mistex in inventory but are fine when placed

L721[10:57:54] <vox> Fr.y is looking into it for me but until there is or is not a fix I've got time to kill

L722[10:58:14] <vox> Do you have an inventory variant that gets ML.sCMRLed?

L723[10:58:38] <MattDahEpic> vox yes

L724[10:58:39] <hron84> A programmer thought a problem can solved with threads. Now has problem two he.

L725[10:59:18] <vox> Uh... does that variant have a texture or is there a default set?

L726[11:00:25] <MattDahEpic> each meta has a texture set, and that texture shows up in the world just fine

L727[11:02:45] <barteks2x> WTF Idea!? When I compile my project in Idea it says that it's successful, when I ran it - it crashed with NoSuchMethodError, I went to the file from stacktrace and it shows a method in red because a mapping changes. But still compiles.

L728[11:02:56] <barteks2x> And yes, I did refresh gradle project

L729[11:03:41] <barteks2x> uh... why I always hit s instead of d and d instead of s...

L730[11:04:43] <barteks2x> Corrected it, still coompiles 0_o

L731[11:05:19] <barteks2x> Changed back to wrong - doesn't compile. Idea is weird

L732[11:06:57] <gigaherz> ALWAYS use the refresh icon on the GRADLE panel

L733[11:07:03] <gigaherz> after setupDecompWorkspace or similar

L734[11:07:05] <barteks2x> I did

L735[11:07:09] <gigaherz> otherwise it may still be using old mappings

L736[11:07:33] <barteks2x> Idea did it after I refreshed it

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L738[11:13:32] <barteks2x> Is it possible to set exception breakpoint for a specific thread?

L739[11:16:02] <MattDahEpic> vox, https://github.com/MattDahEpic/MobDropOres/blob/1.9.X/src/main/java/com/mattdahepic/mobdropores/ClientProxy.java is the code for the texture stuffs

L740[11:17:13] <barteks2x> oh god... loading resources with this breakpijt enabled takes forever

L741[11:23:44] <barteks2x> And creating list of worlds after clicking "singleplayer" also takes forever

L742[11:24:01] <vox> Matt, I'm not seeing any real issues there, sorry

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L744[11:34:14] <barteks2x> Why this: LOGGER.error("Unable to write column {},{}", AddressTools.getX(entry.address), AddressTools.getZ(entry.address), t); doesn't print anything to colsole?

L745[11:34:34] <barteks2x> t is Throwable here

L746[11:35:20] <barteks2x> Does the logger I get in preInit gets inactive when shuttong down or something?

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L749[11:42:51] <barteks2x> The logger gets disabled when stopping client. Is it possible to log something without resotring to System.err.println?

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L752[11:43:31] <Intektor> How can I destroy an itemstack?

L753[11:43:41] <barteks2x> Actually, the whole mod is disabled when shuttong down

L754[11:43:47] <Intektor> in onItemUse

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L758[11:47:54] <barteks2x> I really need the logger to work when stopping client

L759[11:50:44] <barteks2x> I figured out the problem. And I see no reasonable way to solve it

L760[11:51:00] <barteks2x> Well, I can fix the crash, but not the underlying issue

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L762[11:53:07] <barteks2x> The problem is in this line: DB db = DBMaker.newFileDB(file).closeOnJvmShutdown().make(); It makes the DB close on JVM shutdown, and it closes before my thread finished writing (and minecraft client shutdown thread is waiting for my IO thread to finish)

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L765[11:53:51] <gigaherz> ugh, stupid steam, no way to search for stuff NOT containing a tag

L766[11:54:23] * gigaherz wants to look for games that are NOT shooters, NOT strategy, NOT dating sims, etc

L767[11:54:27] <gigaherz> and see what remains

L768[11:54:54] <barteks2x> I need to figure out how to register something like a JVM close handler (no idea what is the name of it)

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L780[12:09:24] <barteks2x> I don't understand why Cuchaz used Error instead of Exception almost everywhere...

L781[12:09:33] <barteks2x> I still have code that does it

L782[12:15:38] <vox> gigaherz: best commit message ever

L783[12:15:38] <vox> https://github.com/gigaherz/Enderthing/commit/9b95ae4a8ebfd49554eec7f819fb7a20cf0412ed

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L787[12:20:21] <gigaherz> vox: if you think so ;P

L788[12:26:00] <vox> :D

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L792[12:33:34] <Dark> anyone know what can cause this crash http://pastebin.com/E3Ga2Dr8

L793[12:35:02] <gigaherz> !gm func_148833_a 1.7.10

L794[12:35:15] <gigaherz> packet.processPacket

L795[12:35:58] <gigaherz> some packet is invalid somehow, and causes the network system to crash.

L796[12:36:19] <Dark> k, was assuming that but not sure how it got an invalid packet, and am sorta being blamed

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L798[12:37:37] <gigaherz> I can't really say much else about it, without seeing the crash log from a development environment

L799[12:37:57] <Dark> can't replicate it in the dev environment

L800[12:38:17] <Dark> about to just say the user has too many mods tbh

L801[12:38:24] <gigaherz> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/1.7.10/fml/src/main/java/cpw/mods/fml/common/network/internal/FMLProxyPacket.java#L68

L802[12:38:31] <gigaherz> there's plenty of crashable lines there so yeah ;P

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L804[12:39:17] <barteks2x> I think I finally fixed that half-dead minecraft process when closing client

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L815[13:10:55] <TobyO> hey

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L818[13:11:24] <TobyO> Does anyone know of any tutorials for making machine-type block with inventories / guis?

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L820[13:11:42] <TobyO> for 1.9 that is. Or just an example?

L821[13:12:19] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/blocks

L822[13:12:24] <gigaherz> yo ucna look at my generator

L823[13:12:35] <TobyO> super, thank you :)

L824[13:13:47] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/gui

L825[13:13:49] <gigaherz> gui bits are here

L826[13:15:42] <TobyO> That's great thanks :)

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L829[13:21:20] MineBot sets mode: +o on cpw

L830[13:37:59] <raoulvdberge> !gm func_187103_a

L831[13:39:23] <SinbadEV> Anybody know the answer to the CAPCHA on http://modwiki.temporal-reality.com/mw/index.php/Main_Page ? It just says "Who are we?"

L832[13:40:56] <shadowfacts> SinbadEV, it's hosted by Temporal Reality

L833[13:41:07] <shadowfacts> so "we" probably refers to them

L834[13:42:02] <SinbadEV> Thanks. I tried it with a hyphen... I also tried "Humans" and "Borg" and "Modders"

L835[13:42:20] <SinbadEV> All better now

L836[13:42:23] <Stiforr> TobyO, you should watch fireball streams. He's making a mod that has machines in it. You can also see his github. The mod is called Applied Logistics

L837[13:42:49] <TobyO> oh cool thanks :)

L838[13:42:58] <vox> Alright, gigaherz I came up with a new project

L839[13:43:18] <gigaherz> heh, what? ;P

L840[13:43:26] <vox> Shh.... it's a secret ;P

L841[13:43:32] <vox> It's called NullAutomation

L842[13:44:03] <vox> I want to see how far into automating machines and stuff I can go without pipes or a similar concept

L843[13:45:36] <vox> Yo Biochemic

L844[13:45:41] <Vorquel> !gf field_146331_K

L845[13:45:53] <Biochemic> yo vox?

L846[13:45:57] <raoulvdberge> Anyone know where I can find the part of the MC codebase where block play sound is called? Have been looking in EntityPlayer, INetHandlers, ... couldn't find anything.

L847[13:46:04] <vox> You up for another logo?

L848[13:46:10] <vox> No rush on deciding :P

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L850[13:46:23] <Biochemic> not right now, currently doin' homework :D

L851[13:46:30] <Biochemic> but later sure ^^

L852[13:46:32] <vox> There probably won't be even any public release of this mod for a little while, so no rush at all

L853[13:46:33] <vox> awesome

L854[13:46:39] <Biochemic> ah okay :D

L855[13:46:56] <Biochemic> yeah i pm you, when im ready ^^

L856[13:49:11] <vox> Coolcool

L857[13:51:56] <vox> gigaherz, have you played with ExtraUtils 2?

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L864[14:13:04] <gigaherz> vox: I saw some gameplay of it, I saw that stuff is now powered, so I lost interest

L865[14:13:14] <vox> Fair enough

L866[14:13:29] <vox> Some of the new power system is pretty interesting compared to other mods

L867[14:13:45] <vox> I originally was going to base my system off of it but came up with a unique idea instead

L868[14:13:55] <vox> not as big of a change as other mods, but it's cool

L869[14:15:07] <gigaherz> I think the power system is similar to an idea I had

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L873[14:17:07] <Vorquel> !gc IChunkGenerator

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L878[14:29:43] <TobyO> How is the power different from other mods?

L879[14:31:01] <gigaherz> if I understood it correctly, it's not "active" transfer

L880[14:31:09] <gigaherz> there's a global power network

L881[14:31:12] <gigaherz> that supports X machines

L882[14:31:20] <gigaherz> or more accurately, X power units

L883[14:31:25] <gigaherz> and each machine takes N power units

L884[14:31:31] <TobyO> ah okau

L885[14:31:33] <gigaherz> if the network has more demand than supply, the whole network fails

L886[14:31:52] <TobyO> power units per some amount of time presumably?

L887[14:32:18] <gigaherz> no

L888[14:32:22] <TobyO> oh

L889[14:32:36] <gigaherz> while a machine is on, it "takes" some power units from the network

L890[14:32:39] <gigaherz> as a constant

L891[14:32:40] <TobyO> so engines/generators just produce N power units?

L892[14:32:52] <gigaherz> just add N power units to the network balance

L893[14:33:03] <gigaherz> and machines subtract N units from the balance

L894[14:33:14] <TobyO> that makes sense

L895[14:33:18] <TobyO> so no batteries then

L896[14:33:23] <gigaherz> nope

L897[14:33:52] <TobyO> sounds like ae2

L898[14:33:53] <gigaherz> although it could be done

L899[14:34:02] <gigaherz> you could have a battery that

L900[14:34:07] <gigaherz> while the network balance is > 0

L901[14:34:17] <gigaherz> it adds "seconds" to a powerunit counter

L902[14:34:35] <gigaherz> and while it's < 0, it counts down

L903[14:34:43] <TobyO> I get you

L904[14:34:47] <TobyO> thats a nice idea

L905[14:34:52] <gigaherz> that's how my idea was going to work

L906[14:34:59] <gigaherz> but I never got around to it

L907[14:35:02] <gigaherz> since Rf was already around

L908[14:35:02] <gigaherz> ;P

L909[14:35:13] <TobyO> I think you should do it

L910[14:35:23] <TobyO> start de-unifying the powergen again

L911[14:35:41] <gigaherz> why

L912[14:35:45] <gigaherz> a common power system is nice

L913[14:35:50] <TobyO> makes life more interesting

L914[14:35:55] <gigaherz> no transformer mess

L915[14:36:22] <TobyO> The mess is good, working out interesting ways of converting mod power is the spice of life

L916[14:36:45] <TobyO> Otherwise you big big arrays of lava gen or a big reactor

L917[14:37:06] <TobyO> IMO

L918[14:37:12] <PaleoCrafter> ideally, you wouldn't convert at all :P

L919[14:37:31] <PaleoCrafter> because otherwise you could abuse that one mod that allows you to do --^

L920[14:37:57] <TobyO> Well, not directly. Back in the day you had to have an itermediate step

L921[14:38:33] <TobyO> like lava generators producing lava to be used by a different mod or a tree farm powered by one mod which produced charcoal for another

L922[14:38:56] <TobyO> That's how I like it anyways

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L925[14:39:20] <PaleoCrafter> still, you might get to know some mod B only as a means to convert from A to B

L926[14:39:35] <gigaherz> incidently, I do have my own power API

L927[14:39:36] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/CapabilityCore

L928[14:39:56] <gigaherz> which is similar in concept but not compatible with the Tesla API

L929[14:40:05] <PaleoCrafter> btw, now that we have Tesla API, somebody should do an Edison one xD

L930[14:40:15] <gigaherz> which is, like mine, designed to be a replacement for RF, based on Capabilities

L931[14:40:39] <gigaherz> my plan is, if Tesla fixes the design flaws it has, to drop mine and use Tesla

L932[14:40:54] <gigaherz> but cba to use the API as it is now

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L934[14:41:49] <TobyO> I don't think there's anything wrong with power APIs when the mods knit together

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L936[14:42:09] <SinbadEV> DC RF vs AC RF... and then someone implements greenstone

L937[14:43:06] <TobyO> Yeah, real life power is definitely not unified. AC / DC, currents, voltage, power etc

L938[14:43:09] <vox> What mappings should I be using atm?

L939[14:43:22] <gigaherz> vox: whatever yo uwant, but the newer the better

L940[14:43:39] <vox> TobyO, machines in EU2 take variable power

L941[14:43:52] <SinbadEV> I feel like I should be idling in the kiddie pool version of this channel... I have just managed the textured blocks! https://plus.google.com/+WilliamBenjaminJohnDavis/posts/6AmM6GhZZvk ...

L942[14:44:06] <vox> So for instance the furnace thing takes 0 power at the beginning and moves towards 8 power as the process happens

L943[14:44:15] <vox> then drops back down to 0 once that smelting operation is done

L944[14:44:22] <fry|sleep> this is the kiddie pool :P

L945[14:44:39] <SinbadEV> OK, good

L946[14:44:42] <TobyO> I am about to try and make a machine

L947[14:44:47] <TobyO> a laser cutter

L948[14:45:26] <vox> fry|sleep in some ways :D

L949[14:45:40] <vox> gigaherz: how can I find that out?

L950[14:45:41] <vox> !help

L951[14:45:43] <SinbadEV> I think I'mma try slabs next...

L952[14:45:54] <gigaherz> !!latest 1.9

L953[14:45:55] <MCPBot_Reborn> === Latest Mappings ===

L954[14:45:55] <MCPBot_Reborn> MC Version Forge Gradle Channel

L955[14:45:56] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.9 snapshot_20160508

L956[14:46:03] <gigaherz> use one ! to not show it in public

L957[14:46:04] <vox> there we go thanks MCPBot

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L959[14:46:11] <gigaherz> and the specific version of mc you want

L960[14:46:18] <vox> Oh damn what did I do

L961[14:46:24] <gigaherz> hm?

L962[14:46:36] <vox> nvm

L963[14:46:40] <vox> What were you saying?

L964[14:46:44] <vox> ooooh

L965[14:46:49] <vox> thanks

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L967[14:47:14] <vox> !versions

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L969[14:50:34] <vox> Man this is cool

L970[14:50:35] <vox> https://github.com/AppliedEnergistics/Applied-Energistics-2/blob/master/src/main/java/appeng/helpers/Reflected.java

L971[14:51:08] <vox> It's one of those java annotation thingies to help with reflection

L972[14:52:44] <Temportalist> vox: what does it do?

L973[14:53:04] <vox> It basically just acts as a marker for reflected code

L974[14:53:08] <vox> That's all

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L976[14:53:18] <vox> It's completely a coding convention thing

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L979[14:59:48] <TobyO> If I want to have my images in a sub folder can I just have the direcory in json set as "modname:blocks/subdirectory/texturename"

L980[14:59:57] <PaleoCrafter> yep

L981[15:00:00] <TobyO> ta

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L984[15:02:34] <TobyO> I have just noticed my machine looks suspiciously like a thermal expansion one

L985[15:04:20] <vox> :D

L986[15:04:49] <TobyO> whoops

L987[15:11:37] <SinbadEV> There are only so many colours that pixels can be...

L988[15:12:11] <gigaherz> yes, 16 million 777 thousand and 216 combinations

L989[15:12:39] <gigaherz> and that's on 24bit color, if you were to add HDR...

L990[15:14:16] <TobyO> The top texture is upside down :?

L991[15:14:29] <TobyO> and setting the rotation is doing nothing

L992[15:14:37] <gigaherz> it is a .obj/.b3d model?

L993[15:15:00] <gigaherz> if so, you may need to use the flip-v thing

L994[15:15:19] <TobyO> nah, it's just json

L995[15:15:39] <barteks2x> How to find out in which commit a file appeared first time (git)?

L996[15:17:17] <barteks2x> neverming, I don't need it anymore

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L1000[15:21:23] <TobyO> I'm not being stupid am I? axis should I be rotating to get a top facing texture to rotate?

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L1002[15:21:57] <gigaherz> Y

L1003[15:22:15] <gigaherz> rotating around Y will spin around the horizontal plane

L1004[15:22:30] <TobyO> That's what I thought but it doesn't seem to be doing anything

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L1006[15:23:11] <madcrazydrumma> Has anyone got an example of how to render an entity in 1.9? I can't seem to figure out how to use the factory thing

L1007[15:23:23] <TobyO> like this http://pastebin.com/XHchSHN5

L1008[15:23:38] <TobyO> not you <madcrazydrumma>

L1009[15:23:43] <madcrazydrumma> I realised aha

L1010[15:25:59] <vox> Mod.EventHandler or just EventHandler?

L1011[15:26:03] <vox> Or are they the same?

L1012[15:26:13] <vox> (I think they are)

L1013[15:26:22] <Nosirrom> this is how I render my entities http://pastebin.com/UuxywFBY

L1014[15:27:05] <madcrazydrumma> "EntityTestPig"

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L1016[15:28:02] <Nosirrom> sometimes you just need to test

L1017[15:28:03] <madcrazydrumma> How do i get my mob to have an egg/spawn in the world Nosirrom ?

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L1019[15:28:42] <Nosirrom> when you register your mod entity, you can put in 2 more integer parameters

L1020[15:28:49] <Nosirrom> which control the colour

L1021[15:29:06] <gigaherz> and implicitly cause forge to register an egg for you

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L1023[15:29:16] <madcrazydrumma> ahh i see that, what about generating in the world?

L1024[15:29:20] <madcrazydrumma> spawning(

L1025[15:29:21] <madcrazydrumma> *

L1026[15:29:26] <Nosirrom> naturally generating?

L1027[15:29:27] <gigaherz> you apply for spawn rules

L1028[15:29:33] <madcrazydrumma> Aye

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L1030[15:29:57] <vox> Minecraft's music is actually mixing very well with the other stuff I'm listening to

L1031[15:29:57] <PaleoCrafter> vox, they are exactly the same, semantically

L1032[15:29:58] <vox> Huh

L1033[15:30:01] <vox> Thanks Paleo

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L1035[15:35:20] <madcrazydrumma> http://imgur.com/2mJDR0P what even is this rendering

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L1038[15:38:08] <TobyO> Still having trouble with this json. If I have a varient like this: "up": {"x": -90}, and I want to rotate it 180 degrees it's jus this right? "up": {"x": -90, "y": 180},

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L1040[15:43:49] <madcrazydrumma> Why is my mob rendering so weird wtf haha

L1041[15:44:10] <mrkirby153> Does anyone know what's causing this? http://paste.mrkirby153.tk/soyakojuke.vhdl

L1042[15:44:11] <Nosirrom> Toby0 have you tried looking at the end_rod.json ?

L1043[15:44:17] <PaleoCrafter> TobyO, directly in the variant you may only have one rotation, iirc

L1044[15:44:31] <PaleoCrafter> oh, nvm xD

L1045[15:44:51] <TobyO> nvm to me

L1046[15:44:53] <TobyO> ?

L1047[15:45:17] <PaleoCrafter> yes

L1048[15:45:29] <PaleoCrafter> I remembered incorrectly xD

L1049[15:45:36] <heldplayer> vhdl? Really?

L1050[15:45:41] <TobyO> so they can have multiple rotations?

L1051[15:45:44] <heldplayer> VHDL?

L1052[15:46:00] <Nosirrom> it may also be that you can't use -90 in the json, just 270 or something. idk, never tried it.

L1053[15:46:08] <heldplayer> God damnit hastebin and your language detection

L1054[15:46:12] <PaleoCrafter> heldplayer, hastebin's all kind of messed up :P

L1055[15:46:17] <PaleoCrafter> mrkirby153, an incorrect formatting string? :P

L1056[15:46:23] <mrkirby153> But why?

L1057[15:46:30] <heldplayer> I've had to program in VHDL ;_;

L1058[15:46:46] <PaleoCrafter> what do I now

L1059[15:46:49] <PaleoCrafter> *know

L1060[15:47:11] <mrkirby153> PaleoCrafter, it's only on this one server too

L1061[15:48:51] <PaleoCrafter> btw, why the hell are you still on 1.8.0 q.q

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L1063[15:49:13] <heldplayer> mrkirby153: Can the texture pack be causing problems?

L1064[15:49:18] <mrkirby153> Maybe

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L1066[15:55:55] <PaleoCrafter> mrkirby153, https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/f9024d2eb38ed92b0621be47fce4a8995bb8b822/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/fml/common/FMLCommonHandler.java#L723 that's the culprit

L1067[15:56:41] <PaleoCrafter> would have been faster if I actually had forge cloned on this machine, but meh xD

L1068[15:57:06] <PaleoCrafter> GitHub's search really should support commit messages

L1069[15:57:11] <heldplayer> So Forge is broken? :P

L1070[15:57:40] <PaleoCrafter> looks like it

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L1072[15:58:06] <PaleoCrafter> bad cp.w be concatenating strings rather than using formatting :P

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L1074[15:58:24] <PaleoCrafter> the line's still there https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/master/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/fml/common/FMLCommonHandler.java#L689

L1075[16:01:09] <TobyO> Yeah, the rotation on this json file isn't working at all. Maybe it's broken in 1.9

L1076[16:01:47] <PaleoCrafter> blame fry|sleep

L1077[16:01:49] <madcrazydrumma> Do you guys still model entities in techne?

L1078[16:01:59] <madcrazydrumma> I'm guessing they aren't done in json

L1079[16:02:07] <PaleoCrafter> Tabula is where it's at :P

L1080[16:02:35] <madcrazydrumma> Tabula?

L1081[16:03:03] <gigaherz> you can use b3d and skeleton-based animations

L1082[16:03:03] <PaleoCrafter> Tabula.

L1083[16:03:04] <gigaherz> ;P

L1084[16:03:16] <gigaherz> fuck the ModelRenderer-based stuff

L1085[16:03:20] <madcrazydrumma> by iChun?

L1086[16:03:46] <madcrazydrumma> So could the reason my entity isnt rendering properly be because I did it in techne?

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L1088[16:04:48] <PaleoCrafter> mebbe

L1089[16:05:46] <PaleoCrafter> last time I checked, it didn't even generate valid code :P

L1090[16:05:59] <vox> Man but tabula is work

L1091[16:05:59] <madcrazydrumma> So tabula is a mod itself?

L1092[16:06:02] <vox> Yep

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L1094[16:06:18] <madcrazydrumma> What would you recommend I use to model then?

L1095[16:06:19] <vox> PaleoCrafter want to send me a copy of a Tabula env? :P

L1096[16:06:27] <madcrazydrumma> Me too ^

L1097[16:06:31] <vox> madcrazydrumma: Tabula is fine, just takes a bit to set up

L1098[16:06:48] <vox> I was kidding, it's literally a forge install and dropping in a mod

L1099[16:06:54] <PaleoCrafter> why would I have such a link? :P

L1100[16:06:57] <vox> lol

L1101[16:07:09] <vox> Though Paleo want to show drumma some example code of using Tabula models?

L1102[16:07:22] <gigaherz> it's just

L1103[16:07:26] <gigaherz> open vanilla launcher

L1104[16:07:33] <PaleoCrafter> I've like... never done entities xD

L1105[16:07:35] <vox> Make a new profile using forge

L1106[16:07:35] <gigaherz> setup 1.8(.0) profile

L1107[16:07:38] <gigaherz> add mod

L1108[16:07:40] <gigaherz> profit

L1109[16:08:11] <gigaherz> call the profile "Tabula" or similar so you can recognize it, if you want

L1110[16:08:19] <madcrazydrumma> xD

L1111[16:08:45] <vox> It does need Forge though, correct?

L1112[16:08:46] <gigaherz> it will show an icon on the main menu

L1113[16:08:49] <gigaherz> vox: yes

L1114[16:08:53] <PaleoCrafter> hm, I wonder whether pig would accept a PR updating Tabula to 1.9 xD

L1115[16:08:54] <vox> Okay good I'm not crazy

L1116[16:09:10] <vox> Paleo, I'm almost certain the answer would be yes

L1117[16:10:28] <PaleoCrafter> then somebody should create such a PR :P

L1118[16:10:50] <PaleoCrafter> maybe add native OBJ and B3D (with animations) support while they're at it

L1119[16:11:46] <gigaherz> but you suggested it, doesn't that count as volunteering?

L1120[16:11:55] <PaleoCrafter> nah

L1121[16:12:16] <PaleoCrafter> as if I had time for that :P

L1122[16:12:28] <PaleoCrafter> man, I'm actually working on a mod right now

L1123[16:12:38] <PaleoCrafter> and I actually plan to release it

L1124[16:16:17] <gigaherz> XD

L1125[16:16:38] <gigaherz> that mod would be awesome on VR

L1126[16:16:51] <PaleoCrafter> heh

L1127[16:17:42] <PaleoCrafter> maybe I can get Wuppy to send me one of those sets his Uni is supposed to get xD

L1128[16:17:47] <gigaherz> XD

L1129[16:17:59] <TobyO> http://i.imgur.com/GmRUbsa.png

L1130[16:18:17] <gigaherz> get a google cardboard? ;P

L1131[16:18:18] <PaleoCrafter> which reminds me, I need to get a new GPU xD

L1132[16:18:24] <gigaherz> wait a month

L1133[16:18:29] <gigaherz> nvidia 1080 and 1070

L1134[16:18:42] <gigaherz> faster than titan X and 980ti, at under half the price

L1135[16:19:31] <vox> Yeah those are ridiculously good

L1136[16:19:46] <PaleoCrafter> still beyond my current budget :P

L1137[16:19:56] <vox> And I'm regretting spending money on a 960 because if I had waited like 6 months I could have a 980ti since the price is going to go pretty far down

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L1139[16:20:26] <gigaherz> can't afford some wahtever you call it where you pay a bit each month?

L1140[16:20:39] <vox> ?

L1141[16:20:55] <Nosirrom> ArrowLooseEvent doesn't give reference to the arrow?

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L1143[16:21:11] <gigaherz> around here, people often pay things like "50 eur/month over 12 months"

L1144[16:21:17] <PaleoCrafter> eh, I either pay it at all at once or not at all, gigaherz :P

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L1146[16:21:51] <gigaherz> I'm planning an upgrade myself

L1147[16:21:55] <gigaherz> but gpu is secondary

L1148[16:22:01] <gigaherz> the 970 I have now works well enough

L1149[16:22:04] <PaleoCrafter> in other news (quite literally): a German tech news site put "Turbo Pascal" as the heading for an article about those new GPUs xD

L1150[16:22:10] <gigaherz> #1 priority is a cellphone

L1151[16:22:13] <PaleoCrafter> I hope it's intentional

L1152[16:22:17] <gigaherz> strongly considering an Xperia Z5 compact

L1153[16:22:28] <PaleoCrafter> Don't have that one, but I can only suggest Sony

L1154[16:22:47] <gigaherz> it's the only non-stupidly-huge phone, that has decent hardware

L1155[16:22:57] <gigaherz> everything else is either crappy hardware, or giant screen

L1156[16:23:36] <gigaherz> the alternative would be something with Windows phone 10

L1157[16:23:51] <gigaherz> or windows 10 mobile

L1158[16:23:56] <gigaherz> or whatever they are calling it these days

L1159[16:24:57] <gigaherz> i'm quite happy with my current Lumia 710, whic hhas WP7.5

L1160[16:24:59] <gigaherz> limited, yes

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L1162[16:25:11] <gigaherz> but everything it does, works well enough

L1163[16:25:27] <PaleoCrafter> hm, I might actually be able to afford the 1070, it's not that far off from the 970, it seems

L1164[16:25:33] <gigaherz> yeah

L1165[16:25:41] <gigaherz> 1080 is $50 more t han a 97

L1166[16:25:43] <vox> I think $379 was release price

L1167[16:25:43] <gigaherz> eh

L1168[16:25:47] <gigaherz> 1070 is $50 more t han a 970 *

L1169[16:25:52] <gigaherz> and 1080 $50 more than a 980

L1170[16:25:56] <gigaherz> comparing launch prices

L1171[16:25:58] <vox> yeah totally worth it though

L1172[16:26:01] <PaleoCrafter> welp, I guess i know what I'll by then

L1173[16:26:03] <gigaherz> yup

L1174[16:26:09] <PaleoCrafter> *buy

L1175[16:26:14] <gigaherz> although I have to wait until I see proper performance reviews

L1176[16:26:22] <vox> Yep, myself as well

L1177[16:26:26] <gigaherz> they were talking a lot about VR

L1178[16:26:31] <vox> I think the next thing that I would upgrade is either my keyboard or my monitor(s)

L1179[16:26:34] <gigaherz> and if the improvements are only visible on VR situations

L1180[16:26:40] <gigaherz> where the gpu has to draw the same stuff twice

L1181[16:26:49] <gigaherz> then it wouldn't be worth it, given that I already have a 970

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L1183[16:26:55] <vox> I'm running two 1280x1024 monitors and one's an ancient piece of crap

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L1185[16:27:05] <gigaherz> ugh yes upgrade monitors

L1186[16:27:06] <gigaherz> XD

L1187[16:27:16] <gigaherz> I currently have a dell U2711

L1188[16:27:21] <gigaherz> and a U2414H

L1189[16:27:25] <vox> And my keyboard is mechanical but has the worst switches that I have ever used

L1190[16:27:28] <gigaherz> the U2711 is awesome

L1191[16:27:39] <gigaherz> but it's not LED so it gets VERY hot in summer

L1192[16:27:43] <vox> Squishy like a rubber dome is the only way I can describe it

L1193[16:27:49] <gigaherz> so I want to replace it before july ;P

L1194[16:27:55] <vox> Fair enough LD

L1195[16:28:01] <PaleoCrafter> I have an R9 280X at the moment with two monitors but I want to get a third, hence upgrading the GPU xD

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L1197[16:28:14] <gigaherz> heh

L1198[16:28:41] <gigaherz> vox: I have a cherry G80-3000

L1199[16:28:46] <gigaherz> MX Black switches

L1200[16:28:47] <gigaherz> love them

L1201[16:29:15] <vox> My 960 will handle more. I'll probably just take home a bunch of 1280x1024 monitors from school and one 1440p one

L1202[16:29:21] <vox> And I'll throw out this ancient one

L1203[16:29:24] <Lord_Ralex> i did not have issues with my 270x driving 3

L1204[16:29:43] <vox> And then have one web monitor, one main gaming/programming monitor, and one music/media monitor

L1205[16:29:46] <vox> boom

L1206[16:29:53] <PaleoCrafter> Lord_Ralex, what settings did you play some recent titles on? :P

L1207[16:30:33] <Lord_Ralex> i ran 1080p, but most were pretty high up there

L1208[16:30:42] <PaleoCrafter> all three 1080p?

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L1210[16:30:45] <Lord_Ralex> nah

L1211[16:30:48] <Lord_Ralex> i'm not that lucky

L1212[16:30:58] <gigaherz> dafuw

L1213[16:31:00] <Lord_Ralex> but 1 1080p with 2 1280x1024s

L1214[16:31:02] <gigaherz> dafuq*

L1215[16:31:11] <gigaherz> the cave in the swamp in ARK

L1216[16:31:13] <gigaherz> is totally bugged

L1217[16:31:14] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, I'm currently at 2x 1080p

L1218[16:31:23] <PaleoCrafter> and maybe the third one will be 1440p

L1219[16:31:27] <gigaherz> jsut went in it, and in a random place, I started swimming and got TPd up

L1220[16:31:27] <gigaherz> XD

L1221[16:31:37] <gigaherz> my primary monitor is 2560x1440

L1222[16:31:41] <gigaherz> secondary 1080p

L1223[16:31:52] <gigaherz> at work I have two 1440p, 25"

L1224[16:32:05] <Lord_Ralex> lol work machines

L1225[16:32:08] <gigaherz> IMO, 27" is best for 1440p

L1226[16:32:17] <gigaherz> but the 25" works

L1227[16:32:25] <gigaherz> because the laptop is a macbook

L1228[16:32:31] <gigaherz> which can scale the gui

L1229[16:32:47] <gigaherz> (unlike windows where it just looks like crap)

L1230[16:35:24] <PaleoCrafter> anyways, bed's calling

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L1234[16:39:30] * Tazz totally wants to write a minecraft tweening library XD

L1235[16:41:00] <Nosirrom> is there a way to change vanilla's arrows to 0 damage?

L1236[16:41:17] <gigaherz> Tazz: wat?

L1237[16:41:39] <gigaherz> Nosirrom: 1.9 or pre-1.9? ;P

L1238[16:41:49] <Tazz> gigaherz, a tweening lib for minecraft

L1239[16:42:03] <gigaherz> wtf is tweening?

L1240[16:42:05] <Nosirrom> 1.9

L1241[16:42:26] <Tazz> gigaherz, like animations and stuff

L1242[16:42:48] <gigaherz> Inbetweening or tweening is the process of generating intermediate frames between two images to give the appearance that the first image evolves smoothly into the second image.

L1243[16:42:49] <gigaherz> Oh

L1244[16:43:10] <gigaherz> hmm isn't that basically what the animation support in .b3d does?

L1245[16:43:24] <gigaherz> also: there's a lot of "tweening" in mc

L1246[16:43:33] <gigaherz> logic updates once per tick

L1247[16:43:40] <gigaherz> and the frames interpolate the values in between

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L1249[16:44:10] <PitchBright> any of you guys have any experience using ForgeEssentials API to add perm-based stuff in your mods?

L1250[16:44:44] <Tazz> gigaherz, but theres no good way of doing it in MC mods without doing all the work by yourself XD

L1251[16:44:46] <gigaherz> nope

L1252[16:44:57] <gigaherz> Tazz: I guess so

L1253[16:45:19] <gigaherz> PitchBright: most modders don't really care about permission systems

L1254[16:45:35] <gigaherz> I include myself in that "most"

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L1256[16:46:11] <PitchBright> yeah, I figured probably not a lot of people have done it

L1257[16:48:25] <SinbadEV> Is there a "right" way to add more slabs and stairs so they do all of the fancy joining up with each other and such?

L1258[16:50:20] <gigaherz> msotly just extend BlockSlab, I believe

L1259[16:50:42] <gigaherz> and give it a model

L1260[16:50:51] <gigaherz> which would be based on the normal slab model, but with different textures

L1261[16:51:59] <gigaherz> for the stairs, BlockStairs, but I have no idea if there's anything that you'd need to override from it

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L1263[16:52:16] <gigaherz> it MAY be possible to make do with just doing like

L1264[16:52:45] <gigaherz> GameRegistry.register(theStairs = new BlockStairs().whatever); // + itemblock

L1265[16:52:52] <gigaherz> but I haven't actually tried that myself

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L1267[16:53:54] <gigaherz> you may want to check the code for the Quark mod, I believe it has a whole bunch of slabs&stairs made for 1.9: https://github.com/Vazkii/Quark

L1268[16:55:33] <gigaherz> yeah looks like it's just extending BlockStairs with a few custom things

L1269[16:56:06] <gigaherz> it's not how i'd organize the mod, but /shrug

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L1272[16:57:48] <barteks2x> Is it possible to configure idea to avoid doing minor formatting changes when reformatting a file so that I don't end up with commits like this: https://github.com/Barteks2x/CubicChunks/commit/f271614f8d60e336f91d82f6cdf73d708fc17e37#diff-3390da177398a6d5b1d3a3dec66e11bbL64 ?

L1273[16:59:03] <barteks2x> I just found a mistake in my code by looking at that commit...

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L1275[16:59:12] <gigaherz> just format everything curretly at once, and then it won't happen in the future

L1276[16:59:13] <gigaherz> XD

L1277[16:59:24] <gigaherz> (but really, no idea)

L1278[17:00:41] <barteks2x> The problem is that my formatting settings are not really consitient across my 2 computers

L1279[17:00:55] <barteks2x> And sometimes it seems to change for no reason

L1280[17:01:07] <SinbadEV> The Quark mod seems to be layering things a little more than I'm ready for... going to start with trying to extend BlockSlab.

L1281[17:01:34] <gigaherz> try without extending first ;P

L1282[17:01:58] <gigaherz> mySlab = new BlockSlab().setRegistryName("my_slab");

L1283[17:02:01] <gigaherz> GameRegistry.register(mySlab);

L1284[17:02:09] <gigaherz> and give it a model on your client proxy

L1285[17:02:15] <gigaherz> and see if it behaves as expected

L1286[17:04:55] <vox> PaleOff: if you see this, do you use animations from Tabula?

L1287[17:05:11] <barteks2x> I really should export my formatting settings and add them to the repository

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L1289[17:08:43] <gigaherz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2D-bs0yZaY

L1290[17:08:52] <gigaherz> this game looks interesting, what they describe has potential

L1291[17:11:09] <TehNut> is he saying genders?

L1292[17:11:47] <gigaherz> ?

L1293[17:11:53] <TehNut> in the video

L1294[17:12:02] <TehNut> when the dev was describing what the game was

L1295[17:12:35] <gigaherz> hmm could be

L1296[17:12:41] <PitchBright> genres

L1297[17:12:42] <gigaherz> "ganre" and "gender" are similar ;P

L1298[17:12:45] <gigaherz> genre*

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L1302[17:28:39] <Nosirrom> i'm subscribing to arrownockevent and trying to remove the bow from the inventory

L1303[17:28:48] <Nosirrom> I can remove any other item, but the bow reappears

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L1307[17:33:06] <SinbadEV> Sadly "Cannot instantiate the type BlockSlab"

L1308[17:33:39] <gigaherz> it's abstract?

L1309[17:33:46] <gigaherz> wel lthen, go ahead and extend ;P

L1310[17:35:37] <SinbadEV> Hmmm... looks like I CAN instantiate "BlockHalfStoneSlab" though

L1311[17:36:17] <gigaherz> half?

L1312[17:36:21] <gigaherz> what version of MC are you on?

L1313[17:36:27] <SinbadEV> 1.9

L1314[17:36:28] <KnightMiner> Half is in 1.9

L1315[17:36:45] <gigaherz> oh I see

L1316[17:36:51] <KnightMiner> BlockSlab is used for both double and regualar slabs

L1317[17:36:51] <gigaherz> it just overrides isDouble to false

L1318[17:37:04] <gigaherz> weird design choice

L1319[17:37:06] <barteks2x> Uh... why I always need data structures that don't exist. Now I need ArrayList (because I need to sort it) but it also needs to be a set (no repeating elements)

L1320[17:37:07] <gigaherz> they could have made like

L1321[17:37:11] <gigaherz> BlockSlab(boolean)

L1322[17:37:17] <tterrag> barteks2x: TreeSet

L1323[17:37:23] <KnightMiner> I know, though I guess it prevents duplicating the enums

L1324[17:37:33] <barteks2x> won't that be a bit slow?

L1325[17:37:43] <gigaherz> do you need indexed access?

L1326[17:37:44] <tterrag> why would that be slow?

L1327[17:37:51] <tterrag> sets don't have indexed access anyways :P

L1328[17:37:53] <gigaherz> if not, then no, it won't be slow

L1329[17:38:06] <raoulvdberge> Is it safe to call playSound with player arg as null?

L1330[17:38:41] <barteks2x> Well, the only property of Set that I need is no repeating elements

L1331[17:39:17] <gigaherz> that wasn't the question

L1332[17:39:18] <gigaherz> ;p

L1333[17:39:23] <gigaherz> do you need .get(int)?

L1334[17:40:08] <tterrag> barteks2x: that is *the* property of a set

L1335[17:40:37] <barteks2x> Everything else should be like an ArrayList. I was planning to sort it ever 4 ticks, but with TreeSet I wouldn't need to sort it. In one use case I don't need get(int) but in the other use - I may need it. I want to randomly get some elements just in case something isn't done right and a cube gets stuck.

L1336[17:41:22] <raoulvdberge> block.getStepSound() should really be block.getSounds() tbh

L1337[17:41:42] <raoulvdberge> As it returns the sound types associated with that block, not the step sound

L1338[17:42:01] <barteks2x> Essentially it would work as a queue sorted by distance to the nearest player

L1339[17:42:04] <tterrag> raoulvdberge: it's a vestige from 1.7

L1340[17:42:09] <barteks2x> So I can't really use TreeSet

L1341[17:42:20] <barteks2x> because the distance will change

L1342[17:42:33] <tterrag> barteks2x: there's no easy way to have a constantly resorting collection

L1343[17:42:37] <tterrag> other than just sorting it yourself

L1344[17:42:47] <barteks2x> that's why I wanted to sort it myself every N ticks

L1345[17:43:19] <barteks2x> in majoriy of cases it will contain 0 elements anyway, and rarely more than 1000

L1346[17:43:24] <gigaherz> apache commons has SetUniqueList

L1347[17:43:33] <tterrag> https://github.com/creatubbles/ctb-mcmod/blob/1.8/src/main/java/com/creatubbles/ctbmod/common/http/DownloadableImage.java#L170-L178

L1348[17:43:36] <tterrag> the most memory efficient? no

L1349[17:43:38] <tterrag> but it works

L1350[17:43:40] <gigaherz> which is a list that ensures no duplicates

L1351[17:44:05] <gigaherz> it's not included with mc, though

L1352[17:44:27] <barteks2x> So to use I would need to include it myself ans shade it in?

L1353[17:44:35] <gigaherz> yeh

L1354[17:44:52] <gigaherz> the "apache commons collections" module

L1355[17:45:37] <gigaherz> they don't actually sort for you, though, I think

L1356[17:45:50] <barteks2x> That wouldn't be possible anyway

L1357[17:45:56] <barteks2x> I know I need to sort it myself

L1358[17:46:40] <barteks2x> also I noticed that changing packeges in shadong doesn't seem to work for me

L1359[17:46:52] <barteks2x> *changing packages in shading

L1360[17:46:57] <tterrag> how are you shading

L1361[17:47:27] <barteks2x> uh... I should rpobably just link to my build.gradle file. For me it's magic

L1362[17:48:03] <barteks2x> https://github.com/Barteks2x/CubicChunks/blob/master/build.gradle

L1363[17:48:39] <barteks2x> wait, no

L1364[17:48:49] <barteks2x> it works, just directories aren't deleted

L1365[17:48:49] <tterrag> that way of shading has been deprecated for nearly a year

L1366[17:48:52] <tterrag> why are people still doing it?

L1367[17:49:00] <barteks2x> I didn't knwo that

L1368[17:49:08] <tterrag> https://github.com/johnrengelman/shadow

L1369[17:49:11] <tterrag> use that

L1370[17:49:22] <tterrag> where did you learn to do it that way?

L1371[17:49:44] <barteks2x> no idea, I think it was here

L1372[17:50:18] <tterrag> here?

L1373[17:50:48] <tterrag> well, doing it that way hasn't worked since FG 1.2

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L1375[17:51:00] <tterrag> just use the shadow plugin, instead of srg hacks

L1376[17:52:05] <barteks2x> I added it exactly in commit from Oct 12, 2015, and at that time it might still be used, I don't really know

L1377[17:52:16] <tterrag> maybe

L1378[17:52:17] <tterrag> either way

L1379[17:52:18] <tterrag> change it

L1380[17:53:01] <barteks2x> At that time I also experimented with shadow plugin but couldn't get it working

L1381[17:53:17] <SinbadEV> ... I can't instantiate BlockSlab because Slabs are items until they are placed?

L1382[17:53:49] <masa> ?

L1383[17:53:55] <Ordinastie_> you don't instantiate blocks

L1384[17:53:58] <masa> all blocks are items when they are not in world

L1385[17:56:52] <barteks2x> with shadowjar, when I want to relocate dependency, do I also need to include it or is it automatically included when I relocate it?

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L1388[17:57:27] <SinbadEV> Right... but the ItemSlab contains two BlockSlab objects...

L1389[17:57:53] <Ordinastie_> what are you trying to do ?

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L1391[17:58:44] <SinbadEV> Make my own slab without reimplementing all the logic... ideally just figure out which classes to extend or implement...

L1392[18:00:39] <Ordinastie_> make a new ItemSlab instance with your own block

L1393[18:01:42] <SinbadEV> That's the new plan

L1394[18:01:59] <Ordinastie_> and you block should extend BlockSlab

L1395[18:03:15] <gigaherz> [00:57] (SinbadEV): Right... but the ItemSlab contains two BlockSlab objects... -- single and double?

L1396[18:03:43] <gigaherz> also as we already deduced: you can't just instantiate BlockSlab

L1397[18:03:46] <gigaherz> you have to extend your own

L1398[18:04:00] <gigaherz> let your IDE create the constructor for you

L1399[18:04:04] <Ordinastie_> tbh, with 1.9, you shouldn't need 2 blocks anymore

L1400[18:04:06] <gigaherz> and leave the rest "blank"

L1401[18:06:15] <SinbadEV> "Shouldn't" is great news... what SHOULD I do?

L1402[18:06:29] <gigaherz> shouldn't often implies "but it does"

L1403[18:07:00] <Ordinastie_> what you should do is read code, understand it, and then adapt it

L1404[18:11:39] <Cypher121> is there a gl option that would make that tnt block render with proper lighting? http://i.imgur.com/Pjs02YU.png

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L1407[18:13:24] <gigaherz> I use this to draw stuff onto GUIs

L1408[18:13:24] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/renders/StackRenderingHelper.java

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L1410[18:13:33] <Cypher121> actually, RenderItem is supposed to set all needed flags itself =\

L1411[18:13:53] <gigaherz> are you calling

L1412[18:13:54] <gigaherz> RenderHelper.enableGUIStandardItemLighting();

L1413[18:13:55] <gigaherz> ?

L1414[18:14:16] <barteks2x> I just realized that I'm using very outdated mapdb version

L1415[18:14:25] <Cypher121> no, I wasn't

L1416[18:14:26] <Cypher121> thx

L1417[18:14:40] <gigaherz> remember to call

L1418[18:14:41] <gigaherz> RenderHelper.disableStandardItemLighting();

L1419[18:14:48] <gigaherz> after you are done drawing items/blocks

L1420[18:15:16] <Cypher121> yeah

L1421[18:16:09] <gigaherz> ugh, gotta sleep

L1422[18:16:12] <gigaherz> cya tomorrow ppl

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L1424[18:17:31] <Nosirrom> anyone know why this code won't remove the bow item from the inventory? http://pastebin.com/EwUepRg2

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L1429[18:22:58] <Biochemic> cya giga

L1430[18:24:26] <Biochemic> Nosirrom: doesn't it use something like ...inventory.consumeItem(..)?

L1431[18:24:56] <masa> not in 1.9

L1432[18:25:09] <Biochemic> ah okay :)

L1433[18:25:27] <Nosirrom> it's just weird because if I tell it to remove an item in slot0 or any slot the bow isn't in... it works

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L1435[18:25:35] <SinbadEV> Hah! Ordi said "read code, understand it, and then adapt it"... I skipped the middle step and it sorta worked anyways! (ugly purple missing textures but the slabs are slabs)

L1436[18:25:36] <Biochemic> seems, that there was a lot changed since 1.7.10 :D

L1437[18:25:48] <SinbadEV> I think I get what's going on now though...

L1438[18:26:24] <masa> Nosirrom: why do you want to delete the bow when it's used though? :o

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L1440[18:26:52] <Cypher121> I guess to make it unusable but to allow it as a crafting item?

L1441[18:26:59] <Nosirrom> yep

L1442[18:27:03] <masa> oh ok

L1443[18:27:20] <Cypher121> isn't that event cancelable?

L1444[18:27:43] <masa> should be

L1445[18:29:27] <Nosirrom> isCancelable says false

L1446[18:31:29] <Cypher121> try setAction with Fail

L1447[18:35:08] <Nosirrom> that worked, thanks. now time to find out why that worked.

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L1450[18:52:24] <Saphire> I do 'read code, understand it, copy where required, add glue'

L1451[18:52:37] <Saphire> how terrible am I?

L1452[18:52:56] <TehNut> literally stalin

L1453[18:53:52] <Biochemic> self explanary code

L1454[18:53:56] <Biochemic> or well documented

L1455[18:54:00] <Biochemic> ^^

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L1460[19:15:37] <SinbadEV> Well... I got my slabs working except for the part where you put two together to make a block...

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L1466[19:25:18] <thecodewarrior> My block states appear to be spending almost 45 seconds during launch creating the table of values. Is there any way to speed that up?

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L1469[19:27:05] <Elucent> any good way to detect if a crop is fully grown using blockstates?

L1470[19:28:24] <masa> which crop?

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L1472[19:28:53] <TehNut> BlockCrops#isMaxAge(IBlockState)

L1473[19:29:06] <masa> thecodewarrior: are you using stupid amounts of variants that get permuted and all the models get baked on launch?

L1474[19:29:33] <Elucent> any vanilla crop

L1475[19:30:09] <Elucent> wondering if there's something better than hardcoding in a metadata value

L1476[19:30:22] <masa> see above what TehNut said

L1477[19:30:49] <Elucent> oh, didnt see that

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L1479[19:30:51] <Elucent> thank you

L1480[19:31:19] <thecodewarrior> Models are baked on demand, and cached. I have 4096 - 16k possible states in my normal blockstate, or including the extended blockstate I have 67,108,864 states. eek!

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L1482[19:32:58] <thecodewarrior> Is there any way around that? Any way to send information to the renderer without having to build a table?

L1483[19:33:58] <masa> now I'm confused, what table of values?

L1484[19:34:52] <thecodewarrior> It builds a table of sorts (thats from what I've seen looking at the code) with every permutation of the blockstate

L1485[19:35:46] <masa> yes, and that's why you don't put all the properties to the blockstate json if you bake them on demand, I think?

L1486[19:37:02] <masa> like, if you have your getModel() method or whatever that takes the extended state, then almost nothing needs to be in the vanilla/forge blockstate json which is what it builds into the permuted blockstates

L1487[19:37:35] <thecodewarrior> But I can't return an extended blockstate from getActualState can I.

L1488[19:37:39] <masa> I hope I'm not talking complete bullshit, since I haven't actually done this myself for blocks...

L1489[19:37:51] <masa> no, that's why you use getExtendedState

L1490[19:39:27] <thecodewarrior> This is all because I have some rather complex and expensive code in getExtendedState for rendering, but unless I do a lot of bodging I can't have some methods (such as collision) use the state without the rendering stuff.

L1491[19:45:46] <Elucent> !gm func_185525_y

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L1497[20:06:33] <Tazz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSYVKa7ChRM playing with a tweening library :D

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L1499[20:13:41] <thecodewarrior> What's tweening? I assume it's something to do with the sidebar thing.

L1500[20:14:36] <Tazz> Inbetweening or tweening is the process of generating intermediate frames between two images to give the appearance that the first image evolves smoothly into the second image. Inbetweens are the drawings between the key frames which help to create the illusion of motion.

L1501[20:18:38] <tterrag> where exactly are you using it? just to make that animation? that seems like way overkill

L1502[20:19:34] <Tazz> tterrag, Im planning on using it in some different places

L1503[20:19:52] <Tazz> but I needed to learn how to use it so I devised that to play with it

L1504[20:20:40] <Tazz> plus the code is rather pleasent than what it would be without it hah

L1505[20:24:18] <thecodewarrior> If only java had a way to say "Returns self class"

L1506[20:24:31] <thecodewarrior> Easily, I know it's possible, it's just not easy

L1507[20:31:37] <SinbadEV> Well... I've gone from "almost working except for one tiny detail" to "Crashes immediately when placed"

L1508[20:31:46] <vox> net.minecraftforge.common.util.ForgeDirection;?

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L1510[20:32:28] <thecodewarrior> Are you asking where ForgeDirection went?

L1511[20:32:32] <vox> Yep

L1512[20:32:39] <thecodewarrior> It's been replaced by EnumFacing

L1513[20:32:43] <vox> Oh got it

L1514[20:33:01] <vox> The CoFH RF API is using it, should I just replace it?

L1515[20:33:25] <masa> get an up-to-date version of the API

L1516[20:33:30] <TehNut> Why are you porting the RF API yourself

L1517[20:33:35] <vox> I thought this was

L1518[20:33:39] <vox> oh duh branches

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L1521[20:33:52] <vox> derp when I cloned it I just copied out of master

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L1523[20:36:55] <TehNut> Cloning uses the default branch unless you specify one

L1524[20:37:01] <vox> Yep

L1525[20:37:03] <vox> > RF API for Minecraft 1.8.x.

L1526[20:37:03] <vox> EnumFacing still sucks and this is a giant ridiculous leap backwards, but so it goes.

L1527[20:37:05] <vox> Ouch

L1528[20:38:13] <thecodewarrior> It's not great, but the great part is it's used in all of the vanilla code instead of ints.

L1529[20:38:28] <vox> That's true

L1530[20:38:37] <thecodewarrior> I think their main complaint is the lack of an UNKNOWN value. Null checks for all!

L1531[20:41:16] <thecodewarrior> I'm making an item that will allow you to toggle holding on to ladders, what should I call it? I'm thinking of fall arrester or ladder harness.

L1532[20:46:00] <vox> ladder harness is probably fine

L1533[20:46:18] <vox> That's a thing that exists in real life

L1534[20:46:50] <Nosirrom> call it ladder grabber

L1535[20:47:20] <vox> PaleOff btw: http://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/241268-immersive-craft

L1536[20:48:19] <thecodewarrior> I like ladder-grabber. I wonder if I should have a random chance that when you start it'll be called laddey-grabbey and have ladder-grabber in the info so you can still search fine. :)

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L1539[20:53:58] <thebookster> hello all

L1540[20:55:22] <thebookster> so, I'm pretty new to modding, and I was hoping someone could explain super basic topics. preferably without me feeling like an idiot

L1541[20:56:44] <thebookster> does anyone know any good 1.8/1.9 open source mods so I can get some ideas on how things work?

L1542[20:57:22] <Disconsented> https://github.com/TheGreyGhost/MinecraftByExample

L1543[20:57:34] <capitalthree> openblocks!

L1544[20:57:36] <thecodewarrior> http://modwiki.temporal-reality.com/mw/index.php/Main_Page

L1545[20:57:47] <thebookster> oh, I didn't know openblocks was updated

L1546[20:58:17] <thebookster> thanks guys!

L1547[20:58:24] <thebookster> (or girls, or etc)

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L1550[21:01:50] <Shuetox> Hello, anyone know of a way to register keypresses from the Item class?

L1551[21:02:02] <Shuetox> basicly i wanna have action connected to WASD

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L1553[21:04:01] <thecodewarrior> mc version?

L1554[21:04:26] <Shuetox> 1.8.9

L1555[21:04:38] <thecodewarrior> It'll be something like http://modwiki.temporal-reality.com/mw/index.php/Networking-1.8.9 or http://modwiki.temporal-reality.com/mw/index.php/Networking-1.9

L1556[21:04:55] <thecodewarrior> It isn't super simple. Unfortunately.

L1557[21:05:18] <Shuetox> i was afraid i would have to use keybinding

L1558[21:05:21] <thecodewarrior> If you want to do existing keybinds I don't know what you can do.

L1559[21:05:35] <Shuetox> will it conflict with existing keybinds?

L1560[21:05:57] <thecodewarrior> I think mezz was working on something for 1.9 that would allow you to have non-conflicting or conditional keybinds

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L1562[21:07:30] <Shuetox> Maybie i should inject a call where minecraft handles movement

L1563[21:08:51] <thecodewarrior> uuuuh, lex won't like that. (hopefully I didn't just ping him)

L1564[21:09:20] <Shuetox> Well no one forces him to play my mod :P

L1565[21:09:48] <Shuetox> but i agree i dont think it's the best option

L1566[21:11:37] <Shuetox> Okay nvm, i found a stupidly easy solution

L1567[21:12:05] <Shuetox> Keyboard.isKeyDown(Keyboard.KEY_A) in the onUpdate method inside the Item class

L1568[21:12:42] <Shuetox> Is there any unforseen stupidity in using that method?

L1569[21:12:55] <thecodewarrior> What if someone binds it to the left arrow?

L1570[21:13:37] <Shuetox> True, i should be able to retrieve their keybinds from somewhere and just check that button?

L1571[21:13:43] <Shuetox> or make it configurable

L1572[21:13:49] <Shuetox> so they can set it to whatever they like

L1573[21:14:09] <Shuetox> they might want something other than the movement keys

L1574[21:14:48] <thecodewarrior> Minecraft.getMinecraft().gameSettings.keyBindLeft

L1575[21:15:24] <Shuetox> oooooh

L1576[21:15:46] <thecodewarrior> You'll still have to some packet stuff if you want the server to do something, but gameSettings.keyBind**** will get you the vanilla keybinds

L1577[21:16:24] <Shuetox> yea i expected the packet thing to be unavoidable

L1578[21:16:58] <thecodewarrior> Yep, server has no concept of keys

L1579[21:17:17] <thebookster> sorry for the possibly silly question, but when a class starts with I (e.g. IBlockState) does that mean something in particular?

L1580[21:17:24] <Shuetox> Interface usally

L1581[21:17:29] <thebookster> also, what is the difference between IBlockState and BlockState?

L1582[21:17:43] <thebookster> sorry, I'm actually pretty new to Java itself

L1583[21:20:39] <thecodewarrior> From what I understand BlockState (later renamed to BlockStateContainer in 1.9) is what creates the IBlockStates depending on what properties you give it, and an IBlockState stores a combinations of values. (they can do more, but that's the gist)

L1584[21:21:09] <thebookster> ooh

L1585[21:22:14] <Shuetox> I'm having trouble why they would need an interface for it tho

L1586[21:22:38] <Shuetox> The only reference to "Implements IBlockState" that i can find is the BlockStateBase

L1587[21:22:51] <Shuetox> Unless they just doing Incase they need

L1588[21:23:22] <thecodewarrior> I don't know why, but I'm glad they did. It helps a lot with allowing stuff like IExtendedBlockStates

L1589[21:24:12] <Shuetox> Oh i didn't know there was a thing like that

L1590[21:29:42] <Shuetox> Anyway thanks for the help thecodewarrior

L1591[21:29:45] <Shuetox> i'm off to sleep now

L1592[21:29:46] <Shuetox> Cyao

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L1594[21:30:12] <SinbadEV> Omigosh! Getting myself into a corner where everything was crashing and having to start over... I figured out what I had done wrong and now I have my new slabs!

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L1596[21:31:49] <vox> Night all

L1597[21:31:51] <vox> o/

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L1601[21:43:11] <thecodewarrior> Can item models have variants?

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L1606[21:57:21] <SinbadEV> Yay Slabs! https://plus.google.com/+WilliamBenjaminJohnDavis/posts/6imXV3xJUrr Also, Good-Night.

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L1608[22:04:49] <thebookster> nice SinbadEV

L1609[22:05:48] <Tazz> nice SinbadEV

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L1619[22:14:15] <infinitefoxes_> does anyone have any stats on the java versions Minecraft players use?

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L1621[22:14:27] <infinitefoxes_> Dinnerbone originally tweeted a year ago that around 60% of players use Java 8

L1622[22:14:46] <infinitefoxes_> but was wondering if there was any newer news as I want to target Java 8 for my mod :p

L1623[22:15:23] <Nosirrom> forge has a warning that you should use java8 now

L1624[22:16:09] <Nosirrom> for the 1.9 at least, I think it's safe to aim for java8.

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L1633[22:29:51] <gigimoi> The java standard is still php3

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L1638[22:39:20] <williewillus> thecodewarrior: they can "use" variants

L1639[22:39:31] <williewillus> item models are basically a map from (item, meta) -> ModelResourceLocation

L1640[22:39:43] <williewillus> a MRL is just a variant in a blockstate json, or a model in models/item/

L1641[22:40:22] <thecodewarrior> Yeah, but if I have a normal item model the variant string does nothing. (as far as I've seen)

L1642[22:42:27] <thecodewarrior> Anybody know somebody who'd be willing to do textures for me? I am incapable of texturing and can't find a texture artist. (Fair warning, I've been spoiled by my first texture artist, but I'll try to be reasonable. Especially if you can tell me a normal turnaround time so I know just how spoiled I am)

L1643[22:43:05] <williewillus> what do you mean by "normal"?

L1644[22:43:27] <williewillus> the models in models/item/ are just a (big) special case because we don't have itemstates

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L1646[22:43:55] <thecodewarrior> That's what I'm talking about.

L1647[22:44:08] <williewillus> the variant string does do something

L1648[22:44:12] <williewillus> you can set it to point to a blockstate json

L1649[22:44:22] <williewillus> or any other variant anywhere else you please :P

L1650[22:45:39] <williewillus> you can do something like ModelLoader.setCustomMRL(item, meta, new MRL("minecraft:log", "axis=y,variant=birch")) and it just works (tm)

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L1657[23:38:27] <unascribed> thecodewarrior, what kind of textures?

L1658[23:39:29] <thecodewarrior> Primarily blocks.

L1659[23:39:37] <unascribed> okay, but what kind of block

L1660[23:40:19] <thecodewarrior> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/2656591-catwalks-3

L1661[23:40:29] <thecodewarrior> Right now I need retexturing of the wooden variants

L1662[23:40:53] <unascribed> oh, so modelled stuff

L1663[23:40:57] <unascribed> can't really help then, sorry

L1664[23:41:17] <thecodewarrior> But really I just need a competent person willing to deal with my incompetency.

L1665[23:46:19] <Nosirrom> if you call those textures incompetent you will hate looking at my mod's textures.

L1666[23:54:12] <thecodewarrior> I haven't made a single texture from scratch. The steel ones are from Catwalks 2 and aren't my work, the rusty ones are just steel with some eaten away and a reddish tinge added, and the wooden ones are just vanilla textures smashed together to little success.

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