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L75[04:34:27] <Taesh> Is there any benefit to working with JDE 6 or 7 instead of 8?

L76[04:35:21] <Taesh> With Forge/Minecraft, I mean

L77[04:39:17] <Ivorius> There's still some people with JRE 6

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L80[04:44:00] <Taesh> That can't update, or wont?

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L84[05:08:10] <Ivorius> Don't

L85[05:08:40] <Ivorius> How should I know why

L86[05:08:49] <Ivorius> But Java 8 should work everywhere

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L94[05:26:13] <madcrazydrumma> Hey guys! So I want to check if the player is currently attacking a mob. I've got a health bar for the mob displaying in my gui so far, but I want to decrease it with the mobs health and have it disappear after the player is not attacking it anymore or if it is dead

L95[05:26:17] <madcrazydrumma> Here is my code so far: http://pastebin.com/SntLvidV

L96[05:26:33] <madcrazydrumma> It works and shows up

L97[05:26:40] <madcrazydrumma> But i want to decrease and remove it too

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L104[05:51:53] <Cazzar> madcrazydrumma: keep a reference to the EntityLiving and use the health every time it renders

L105[05:52:14] <Cazzar> As well as set an expiry timer for when to have it stop

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L107[05:55:48] <madcrazydrumma> So should I keep a private reference to the entity and then say keep a variable for the timer and use a tick event or something?

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L111[06:05:23] <Nitrodev> hi

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L114[06:15:45] <madcrazydrumma> Hi Nitrodev

L115[06:18:54] <madcrazydrumma> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/2544450-dragon-shouts-mod-the-best-skyrim-experience-in - How would I render spell effects like these in a gui?

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L121[06:39:48] <Keridos> if I have 2 blockstates that alter rotation and i need to run them in a specific order, how can i do that within the json?

L122[06:40:51] <gigaherz> nope

L123[06:41:05] <Keridos> so I'd better condense it into one blockstate?

L124[06:41:11] <Keridos> and then list all the options?

L125[06:41:28] <gigaherz> there is only ever one blockstate at any one time

L126[06:41:51] <gigaherz> each possible combination of properties gets its own IBlockState instance

L127[06:42:19] <gigaherz> and as for the json files, the data is aggregated, but I don't think rotations are additive

L128[06:42:30] <gigaherz> whichever gets processed last would simply override the previous value

L129[06:42:48] <Keridos> ah

L130[06:43:03] <Keridos> gigaherz: i meant into one value

L131[06:43:08] <Keridos> so I do not have duplicates

L132[06:43:11] <Keridos> of transforms

L133[06:43:23] <Keridos> just different state that alter either textures, model or transforms

L134[06:43:51] <gigaherz> I'm not sure I follow

L135[06:43:54] <Keridos> basically doing an integer for the rotations, currently i have 12 possible values

L136[06:44:22] <Keridos> my block can be pointed in any direction but additionally i want to be able to turn it 90° around the direction it is pointing at

L137[06:44:30] <Keridos> statically

L138[06:44:35] <Keridos> not animated or anything

L139[06:44:46] <gigaherz> hmmm that's going to be complicated

L140[06:44:55] <Keridos> i kind of found out that is horribly complicated with the new system

L141[06:45:14] <Keridos> so easy to do easy stuff but you were far more flexible with the old system

L142[06:45:50] <gigaherz> yeah the ISBRH allowed morefreedom, but it was also much more inefficient

L143[06:45:57] <gigaherz> you can still do anything you did

L144[06:46:19] <gigaherz> in fact, you could simulate something akin to the old isbrh using "smart" models

L145[06:46:36] <Keridos> is there any documentation on that?

L146[06:46:49] <gigaherz> there may be something in willie's primer

L147[06:46:50] <Keridos> i could theoretically do another model that is just rotated by 90

L148[06:46:53] <Keridos> °

L149[06:47:02] <Keridos> and switch the model accordingly

L150[06:47:11] <Keridos> i did a similar thing with the textures

L151[06:47:30] <gigaherz> nah you'd be best applying the transforms as a model state with the smart model

L152[06:47:52] <gigaherz> this would give you the opportunity to have the actual model still loaded from disk as one single model

L153[06:47:59] <gigaherz> but then have the rotation applied dynamically

L154[06:48:01] <Keridos> can i just take my normal json model?

L155[06:48:09] <gigaherz> yo ucan "wrap" it

L156[06:48:38] <gigaherz> https://gist.github.com/williewillus/57d7093efa80163e96e0

L157[06:48:50] <gigaherz> look there, see if there's anything about smart models and custom model loading

L158[06:48:57] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, any idea about what I could do for my question?

L159[06:50:22] <gigaherz> you'd render that like you'd do in the world: by drawing quads

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L161[06:51:04] <madcrazydrumma> I tried rendering a circle in my gui using opengl but it just made the whole gui go red (the color of the circle) and i couldnt see the rest of my stuff

L162[06:51:05] <gigaherz> those quads would use textures either from a custom sprite sheet, or stitched into the main atlas

L163[06:51:17] <gigaherz> well thenyou did it wrong

L164[06:51:20] <gigaherz> doesn't mean it can't be done ;P

L165[06:52:23] <madcrazydrumma> true, they did it haha

L166[06:52:40] <madcrazydrumma> so I would just follow some simple guide online for say rendering a sphere in open gl?

L167[06:53:32] <gigaherz> no, a simple guide for rendering spere probably has you drawing stuff using glu or similar

L168[06:53:49] <gigaherz> you need your own models, that you can load using forge's b3d or obj loaders

L169[06:54:37] <madcrazydrumma> Okay so the way they're doing it is just rendering quads and applying colors/textures to those quads?

L170[06:54:40] <madcrazydrumma> is that easier?

L171[06:55:25] <gigaherz> it's easier for sprite effects

L172[06:55:29] <Keridos> ok the rendering primer explains quite something but how can I get my builtin model?

L173[06:55:30] <gigaherz> but harder for anything else

L174[06:56:05] <madcrazydrumma> so how would I go about rendering multiple textured quads in a defined region?

L175[06:56:24] <madcrazydrumma> Could I render those quads in a large quad itself and then translate the bigger one?

L176[06:58:39] <gigaherz> sorry gotta go, I'm remoting from work, and it's nearly time to leave

L177[06:58:40] <gigaherz> later

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L179[06:58:51] <madcrazydrumma> Okay no worries

L180[07:02:57] <Keridos> question: can i get the model definition from my json processed in the ISmartBlockModel?

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L193[08:13:03] <ghz|afk> GAAH

L194[08:13:30] <ghz|afk> made pasta, but I put too much spicy stuff in the sauce

L195[08:13:37] <ghz|afk> my flatmate said it's the best I have ever cooked

L196[08:13:40] <ghz|afk> but I'm burning inside

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L198[08:14:51] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, take it like a man

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L200[08:15:02] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, you'll know how much you can take in a couple hours aha ;)

L201[08:15:43] <madcrazydrumma> carrying on with that question: here's a thread i made so people can look at it for future reference if it gets answered/finished: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/modification-development/2662248-creating-an-animation-of-quads-cubes-in-a-gui

L202[08:16:27] <gigaherz> ewh glBegin/glEnd

L203[08:16:29] <gigaherz> ;P

L204[08:16:36] <madcrazydrumma> :'(

L205[08:16:44] <madcrazydrumma> push/pop matrix? :D

L206[08:17:53] <gigaherz> GlStateManager.pushMatrix/popMatrix are ok

L207[08:18:05] <gigaherz> you should probably not call any GL11.* functions directly

L208[08:18:20] <madcrazydrumma> Should i use GLStateManager for them then?

L209[08:18:44] <gigaherz> for pushMatrix/popMatrix and such, yes

L210[08:18:47] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/renders/RenderingStuffs.java

L211[08:18:49] <gigaherz> I have this class

L212[08:19:00] <gigaherz> that I use in my mods (it's slightly different in each mod ;P)

L213[08:19:10] <gigaherz> which helps me load and draw .obj models

L214[08:19:37] <gigaherz> then I use it like this: https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/renders/RenderBall.java

L215[08:19:40] <gigaherz> this is an entity renderer

L216[08:20:00] <gigaherz> but calling the renderModel helper method from a gui should also work

L217[08:20:32] <madcrazydrumma> See the thing is I don't think that the shout mod I refer to uses obj models

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L221[08:25:27] <gigaherz> ...so?

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L223[08:25:46] <gigaherz> that doesn't remove the fact that using hardcoded models is bad

L224[08:26:01] <gigaherz> and using glBegin/glEnd is even worse

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L226[08:26:51] <madcrazydrumma> So say I have a simple cube model. You're saying its more efficient to load that model in multiple times and perform animations on them than by drawing multiple cubes?

L227[08:27:27] <gigaherz> load multiple times? no?

L228[08:27:29] <gigaherz> just load once

L229[08:27:45] <gigaherz> you can reuse the same cube model over and over

L230[08:28:00] <gigaherz> and if you make the texture whiteish

L231[08:28:05] <gigaherz> you can then apply a color

L232[08:28:11] <gigaherz> and draw the model with a color

L233[08:28:43] <gigaherz> my loadModel function has a cache

L234[08:28:48] <gigaherz> it just reuses the same cached model

L235[08:29:05] <gigaherz> I don't cache the reference, because if the resourcepack loads, I want it to be able to wipe the cache

L236[08:29:18] <gigaherz> if the user loads a new resourcepack*

L237[08:29:27] <madcrazydrumma> ^

L238[08:29:54] <gigaherz> but my RenderingStuffs class knows to wipe the cache in response to resourcemanager reload events

L239[08:30:48] <madcrazydrumma> through the init() method?

L240[08:31:09] <gigaherz> the init method registers the event, yes

L241[08:32:34] <madcrazydrumma> hmm im just thinking about it.. If I created an obj model with multiple cubes placed in position, could I just load that model in and perform circular animations on the individual model parts?

L242[08:34:16] <gigaherz> it's possible but not easy or nice

L243[08:34:29] <gigaherz> much simpler to have a single cube model

L244[08:34:32] <gigaherz> and just draw it a bunch of times

L245[08:35:07] <gigaherz> the other method basically involves splitting the model into the separate parts

L246[08:35:17] <gigaherz> then drawing them separately

L247[08:35:24] <gigaherz> which defeats the point of using a single model

L248[08:35:28] <gigaherz> you could however

L249[08:35:42] <gigaherz> create a skeleton-based animation as a .b3d file

L250[08:36:08] <gigaherz> where each cube has a bone coming from the root at the center

L251[08:36:20] <gigaherz> controlling its position and orientation

L252[08:37:11] <madcrazydrumma> hmm yeah I could do that too

L253[08:37:31] <madcrazydrumma> I might just stick the obj and draw it multiple times.. What would i use for the obj just blender or something?

L254[08:37:49] <gigaherz> yeh

L255[08:37:58] <gigaherz> since it a cube, you could even write the .obj file by hand ;P

L256[08:38:12] <madcrazydrumma> how so?

L257[08:38:13] <madcrazydrumma> haha

L258[08:38:50] <gigaherz> well a .obj file is a text file

L259[08:39:07] <gigaherz> mtlllib materials.mtl

L260[08:39:11] <gigaherz> o Object1

L261[08:39:14] <gigaherz> usemtl Material1

L262[08:39:21] <gigaherz> v -1 -1 -1

L263[08:39:24] <gigaherz> v -1 -1 1

L264[08:39:29] <gigaherz> v -1 1 -1

L265[08:39:29] <gigaherz> ...

L266[08:39:31] <madcrazydrumma> http://people.sc.fsu.edu/~jburkardt/data/obj/cube.obj ?

L267[08:39:38] <gigaherz> f 1 2 3 4

L268[08:39:49] <gigaherz> f 5 6 7 8

L269[08:39:52] <gigaherz> ...

L270[08:40:01] <gigaherz> and you'd have a cube model ;P

L271[08:40:22] <gigaherz> yeah xcept that one is centered around 0.5

L272[08:40:29] <gigaherz> which would work nicely for a block model

L273[08:40:37] <gigaherz> but it would be slightly annoyingfor animating in code

L274[08:40:38] <gigaherz> ;P

L275[08:41:03] <gigaherz> https://gist.github.com/noonat/1131091

L276[08:41:08] <gigaherz> this one is centered around 0, so it's nice

L277[08:41:09] <gigaherz> r

L278[08:41:24] <gigaherz> although those "s" lines are pointless ;P

L279[08:41:51] <gigaherz> but as I said: so simple you can write it by hand ;P

L280[08:42:01] <gigaherz> you don't HAVE to, though

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L282[08:42:11] <gigaherz> it's easy enough to open blender, and export as .obj

L283[08:42:17] <gigaherz> since the default workspace is already a cube XD

L284[08:42:59] <madcrazydrumma> ^^ ill check it out cheers

L285[08:43:00] <madcrazydrumma> brb

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L321[10:09:13] <vox> o/

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L323[10:09:43] <vox> What mods would people in here suggest testing against for a (1.8) mod using the RF API?

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L333[10:27:01] <keybounce> Java 8 is not 100% compatible with java 7. Reika only recently managed to work around the JVM garbage collection bug as the first example.

L334[10:29:16] <gigaherz> vox: progressive automation, neotech, buildcraft, rftools

L335[10:29:34] <vox> thanks!

L336[10:29:43] <gigaherz> keybounce: it's probably referring to mc 1.8(.9), not java8 ;P

L337[10:30:06] <gigaherz> vox: I also use the RF api in Ender-Rift

L338[10:30:23] <gigaherz> but it's not one of the most widely used ;P

L339[10:30:31] <gigaherz> I did replace RF api though

L340[10:30:42] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/CapabilityCore

L341[10:30:48] <vox> Are you using the "official" COFH one or the one released by the RFTools author?

L342[10:30:50] <gigaherz> designed this api using the newish Capability system

L343[10:30:51] <vox> oh, your own?

L344[10:31:00] <gigaherz> I use the official one from cofh

L345[10:31:09] <gigaherz> but I also have my own api

L346[10:31:10] <gigaherz> andi n 1.9

L347[10:31:16] <gigaherz> I discarded rf in favor of mine

L348[10:31:28] <gigaherz> since the implementation is a lot cleaner that way ;P

L349[10:31:46] <vox> Ah, I see

L350[10:32:11] <gigaherz> I designed that api to fit with the existing capabilities

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L352[10:32:31] <gigaherz> but I chose to keep similar semantics in terms of units (the api is supposed to be 1:1 with RF units)

L353[10:33:05] <gigaherz> and function return values (the api can esasily be used with code that was RF, since the function args and return values are the same)

L354[10:33:07] <vox> So how is 1.9 dev?

L355[10:33:16] <vox> Like, compared to past versions

L356[10:33:19] <gigaherz> mostly like 1.8 was

L357[10:33:22] <gigaherz> 1.8.9*

L358[10:33:25] <gigaherz> but

L359[10:33:34] <gigaherz> some thigns are much nicer

L360[10:33:38] <gigaherz> such as the new potion stuff

L361[10:33:45] <gigaherz> the new generalized registries

L362[10:34:04] <tterrag|phone> and soon - annotations!

L363[10:34:19] <gigaherz> heh yeah

L364[10:34:32] <gigaherz> apparently the 1.9.x snapshots have annotation data in the bytecode

L365[10:34:43] <gigaherz> meaning we'll have a tiny little bit more info about hte function semantics

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L368[10:37:14] <vox> Do we know how much Forge has left to do for 1.9.2 support, btw?

L369[10:38:13] <gigaherz> dunno

L370[10:38:28] <gigaherz> last I heard lex's job was done, and it needed the other forge devs to do their parts

L371[10:38:45] <vox> Okay, cool

L372[10:38:57] <vox> I need to keep track of this stuff better than I do atm

L373[10:39:02] <gigaherz> just stay around ;P

L374[10:39:21] <tterrag|phone> well we are also waiting for 1.9.3

L375[10:39:39] <gigaherz> leave irc running in the background (or use a bnc/cloud app that does it for you)

L376[10:40:11] <vox> Yep, that's the plan :D

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L383[11:07:32] <LexMobile> It iant the other forge devs inwas waiting on bspkrs

L384[11:07:59] <LexMobile> To upload the work i did for mcp

L385[11:08:54] <LexMobile> And yes 1.9.3 will have annotations so we need to make sure our pipeline works with that and ive been fiddeling with redoing some tools

L386[11:09:00] <LexMobile> And then there is pax...

L387[11:09:20] <LexMobile> Also, .2 isnt worth the update there are no fixes or good features

L388[11:11:24] <vox> Coolcool, thanks

L389[11:12:03] <vox> Oh yeah, we're still on MCP 9.18 publically aren't we

L390[11:14:25] <gigaherz> Oh

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L394[11:19:21] <LatvianModder> What kind of annotations?

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L401[11:26:39] <McJty> NotNull/Nullable most likely

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L410[11:37:57] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, that cube you posted earlier in gist, the cube.png texture is what? Just a white texture? What size should it be?

L411[11:38:16] <madcrazydrumma> and where would I put the model?

L412[11:38:31] <madcrazydrumma> wait..

L413[11:38:36] <madcrazydrumma> Do i need the mtl file as well?

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L415[11:39:15] <LordSaad> how do you make text italic in fontRenderer?

L416[11:39:23] <LordSaad> or bold

L417[11:39:40] <madcrazydrumma> You can add it straight to the string

L418[11:39:47] <madcrazydrumma> ChatFormatting.ITALIC/BOLD

L419[11:39:52] <LordSaad> oh thank you

L420[11:40:04] <madcrazydrumma> Colors and that random character thing are there too

L421[11:40:12] <LordSaad> yup

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L423[11:46:17] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: that was from google

L424[11:46:18] <gigaherz> random link

L425[11:46:25] <gigaherz> i just looked for "cube obj model"

L426[11:46:30] <gigaherz> and yes

L427[11:46:41] <gigaherz> you need the .mtl file if you want to be able to specify materials

L428[11:47:04] <madcrazydrumma> Okay

L429[11:47:13] <madcrazydrumma> Alright and where do i put it

L430[11:47:34] <gigaherz> next to the .obj file

L431[11:47:36] <gigaherz> same folder

L432[11:52:22] <vox> McJty: Is the version of the RF API in McJtyLib the same one as in CoFH's github repo?

L433[11:54:11] <gigaherz> vox: just do a diff between them? ;P

L434[11:54:22] <gigaherz> dump the one from cofh into your repo

L435[11:54:25] <gigaherz> doa local commit

L436[11:54:35] <gigaherz> then paste McJty's on top and see if anything changes ;P

L437[11:54:46] <vox> I could but McJty is around here already :P

L438[11:54:55] <vox> Yeah I'll do that

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L453[12:20:18] <McJty> vox, should be. Unless it has changed

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L456[12:22:38] <gigaherz> lolwhat

L457[12:22:56] <gigaherz> apparently people learned to actually fly nonstop using elytra, by shooting themselves with arrows mid-flight

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L460[12:28:41] <LatvianModder> I just ported my LWJGL engine to LWJGL3. Kill me.

L461[12:29:08] <gigaherz> why, you just ported it

L462[12:29:11] <gigaherz> ;P

L463[12:29:16] <gigaherz> yo uALREADY did the effort

L464[12:29:29] <LatvianModder> More like.. got to point where no compliling errors show :P

L465[12:30:00] <LatvianModder> Its just a white screen now :P

L466[12:30:10] <gigaherz> so you STARTED porting, then

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L469[12:30:18] <gigaherz> "fix compile errors" is often the easy step

L470[12:30:26] <gigaherz> the compile errors, you know what they are

L471[12:30:29] <LatvianModder> yeah

L472[12:30:33] <gigaherz> it's the semantic changes that hurt the most

L473[12:30:34] <gigaherz> XD

L474[12:30:58] <LatvianModder> Will Minecraft ever move to LWJGL3?

L475[12:31:23] <gigaherz> ask mojang, not us

L476[12:31:24] <gigaherz> ;P

L477[12:31:29] <LatvianModder> I really like that its only one jar now and only one natives folder and doesnt require per-OS / arch jars

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L479[12:39:04] <tterrag|phone> doesn't lwjgl3 use java 8?

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L482[12:40:06] <gigaherz> no idea, but why would that matter? ;P

L483[12:40:14] <tterrag> mojang won't use it then :P

L484[12:40:17] <tterrag> not for a while anyways

L485[12:40:31] <LatvianModder> "You will also need a Java SE Development Kit (JDK), LWJGL will work on version 8 or newer"

L486[12:40:32] <LatvianModder> Yep

L487[12:40:42] <gigaherz> ewh

L488[12:40:46] <LatvianModder> Wont minecraft 1.10 be Java 8?

L489[12:40:47] <gigaherz> just opened the lwjgl page

L490[12:40:50] <tterrag> it's a good change

L491[12:40:52] <gigaherz> fullscreen animated background

L492[12:40:54] <gigaherz> I hate those pages

L493[12:40:59] <tterrag> means they can use functional patterns for their GL binding

L494[12:41:00] <gigaherz> I don't care about what they have to say anymore.

L495[12:41:20] <tterrag> oh wow, they redid their site

L496[12:41:25] <tterrag> it used to be circa-2000 looking :P

L497[12:41:38] <LatvianModder> LWJGL2 is in legacy.lwjgl.orh, I think

L498[12:41:41] <gigaherz> they replaced it

L499[12:41:41] <gigaherz> http://legacy.lwjgl.org/

L500[12:41:47] <gigaherz> the old site is still there, apparently

L501[12:41:47] <gigaherz> XD

L502[12:42:01] <gigaherz> so I guess

L503[12:42:10] <gigaherz> if lwjgl is like the websites

L504[12:42:20] <gigaherz> lwjgl2 was straight and to the point

L505[12:42:44] <gigaherz> while lwjgl is fancier and more annoying to use?

L506[12:42:45] <gigaherz> ;P

L507[12:42:49] <gigaherz> lwjgl3*

L508[12:42:51] <LatvianModder> lwjgl3's only change is display creation / input

L509[12:43:06] <LatvianModder> ok, there are a lot of changes.. but those are the main ones

L510[12:43:39] <LatvianModder> and it can have multiple displays / windows open

L511[12:43:46] <LatvianModder> like AWT / swing

L512[12:43:52] <LatvianModder> I think

L513[12:44:15] <gigaherz> display/window management is like the #1 reason to usea library like that

L514[12:44:23] <gigaherz> input is #2

L515[12:44:23] <gigaherz> XD

L516[12:44:47] <gigaherz> annoyingly, they are coupled together simply because the input events are sent through the window XD

L517[12:47:42] <LatvianModder> and lol, their tutorials arent even up to date with latest public release >.<

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L519[12:49:45] <madcrazydrumma> LatvianModder, that's very true because I made a small game as java practice and it took bloody ages haha

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L523[12:58:14] <Taesh> Hi, I'm getting into Minecraft modding, can you recommend me a good project to use as a reference?

L524[12:58:48] <LatvianModder> depends on what kind of mod

L525[12:58:58] <LatvianModder> tech, magic

L526[12:59:21] <Taesh> Are they that different from a code perspective?

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L528[13:00:05] <LatvianModder> not really

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L530[13:00:39] <raoulvdberge> can anyone forward me to the part of the MC code where the block break / placed sounds are played

L531[13:00:56] <raoulvdberge> looked in World, EntityPlayer and ItemTool..

L532[13:01:16] <LatvianModder> Iron Chests 2

L533[13:01:36] <LatvianModder> Not sure if github is updated, but I always looked at it for basic mod setup n stuff :D

L534[13:01:59] <Taesh> Cool, I'll look it up thanks!

L535[13:02:01] <LatvianModder> https://github.com/progwml6/ironchest

L536[13:02:44] <LatvianModder> raoulvdberge: you can Ctrl + F and search for method that is called

L537[13:02:59] <gigaherz> Taesh: you can also look at any of mine ;P

L538[13:03:02] <LatvianModder> but knowing minecraft, probably in some very weird place

L539[13:03:12] <LatvianModder> maybe EntityPlayerMP.itemInWorldManager or smth

L540[13:03:17] <gigaherz> I like tothink I write clean code

L541[13:03:18] <gigaherz> ;P

L542[13:03:23] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/PackingTape

L543[13:03:23] <PaleoCrafter> Ctrl + F, are you serious?

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L546[13:03:35] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Survivalist/ -- this one is a bit of a mess, though

L547[13:03:36] <gigaherz> XD

L548[13:03:48] <LatvianModder> I will read trough your code and verify it <.<

L549[13:03:55] <Taesh> Haha!

L550[13:04:03] <Taesh> Thanks, gigaherz!

L551[13:04:12] <LatvianModder> heh, ISidedProxy as interface

L552[13:04:30] <LatvianModder> I prefer CommonProxy & ClientProxy extends CommonProxy

L553[13:04:31] <gigaherz> yep, someone suggested it as a better alternative to using CommonProxy+ClientProxy

L554[13:04:33] <gigaherz> and I adoped it

L555[13:05:12] <LatvianModder> Yeah, I only use proxies when I need to access client methods so I dont need a server proxy

L556[13:05:52] <PaleoCrafter> You don't need a 'common' proxy either :P

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L558[13:06:24] <LatvianModder> its mostly empty, just clientproxy overriding methods

L559[13:07:07] <LatvianModder> I confirm your code to be OK, gigaherz :P But whats with all the @Overrides?

L560[13:07:17] <gigaherz> what's wrong with them?

L561[13:07:27] <LatvianModder> Thats the point of it when you know you override your method anyway?

L562[13:07:32] <LatvianModder> W*

L563[13:07:39] <gigaherz> so that when I build

L564[13:07:42] <gigaherz> it slaps me

L565[13:07:47] <PaleoCrafter> ^

L566[13:07:50] <LatvianModder> Im just curious, I never use annotations that arent @SideOnly :P

L567[13:07:59] <gigaherz> but you shouldn't use @SideOnly...

L568[13:08:17] <PaleoCrafter> Don't tell me you override manually, LatvianModder

L569[13:08:18] <gigaherz> unless you specifically are overriding a method that uses a client-only (or server-only) as a parameter type

L570[13:08:46] <gigaherz> also if you don't use @Override on mc methods

L571[13:08:54] <gigaherz> when you update mappings or upgrade version

L572[13:08:58] <PaleoCrafter> Or do you remove the annotation from the methods? q.q

L573[13:09:01] <LatvianModder> sooo.. you say it wont crash if I have something like loadModels() { ... *calls client methods here* } without @SideOnly(CLIENT) ?

L574[13:09:11] <gigaherz> it won't know that the stuffchanged, and you'll be left wondering why it's not being called anymore

L575[13:09:24] <gigaherz> LatvianModder: yes it will

L576[13:09:31] <gigaherz> that's why loadModels should be in the client proxy

L577[13:09:33] <PaleoCrafter> Actually, it depends :P

L578[13:09:48] <gigaherz> since the client proxy is only ever instantiated in the client, through reflection

L579[13:09:53] <gigaherz> no one ever references it in the server

L580[13:09:57] <LatvianModder> nah, I dont reload models there

L581[13:09:57] <gigaherz> so those calls won't crash

L582[13:10:11] <gigaherz> my rule is

L583[13:10:21] <gigaherz> if something references client-only code

L584[13:10:33] <gigaherz> it's either a classi n the .client or .rendering package

L585[13:10:39] <LatvianModder> register* not reload. I have loadRecipes(), loadModels() and registerTiles() in my block parent class

L586[13:10:48] <gigaherz> or it's called indirectly through the client proxy

L587[13:11:17] <gigaherz> yeah I consider that bad design. breaks separation of concerns, with theconcerns being "rendering" vs "logic" ;P

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L590[13:11:39] <LatvianModder> Hey, its only been 7 years. Im still learning Java, ok? :P

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L592[13:11:45] <gigaherz> lol

L593[13:12:06] <gigaherz> this isn't about java, either

L594[13:12:14] <PaleoCrafter> You didn't answer my question by the way, do you actually override manually?

L595[13:12:39] <LatvianModder> .. ive been coding since 12.. man I thought that wasnt that long ago o_O

L596[13:12:52] <gigaherz> heh something similar here

L597[13:12:54] <LatvianModder> if by manually you mean without @Override, yes

L598[13:13:04] <gigaherz> xcept I'm 32 now, so technically, I started messing with code 20 years ago

L599[13:13:04] <gigaherz> XD

L600[13:13:22] <PaleoCrafter> Oh dear, go use your IDE properly :P

L601[13:13:39] <gigaherz> LatvianModder: he means using the IDE command to show a list of override options

L602[13:13:46] <gigaherz> and then let the IDE autogenerate the skeleton

L603[13:13:59] <gigaherz> for me (VS-style keybinds on IDEA), it's ctrl-shift-o

L604[13:14:06] <PaleoCrafter> And that puts the annotation manually

L605[13:14:06] <LatvianModder> Im using Idea, so I guess ill search for that setting

L606[13:14:12] <PaleoCrafter> *automatically

L607[13:14:21] <LatvianModder> I have Eclipse keybindings

L608[13:14:23] <gigaherz> it's either shift-o

L609[13:14:25] <gigaherz> or ctrl-o

L610[13:14:26] <gigaherz> by default

L611[13:14:32] <gigaherz> oh eclipse no idea

L612[13:14:32] <gigaherz> XD

L613[13:14:40] <gigaherz> heh idea...

L614[13:14:56] <PaleoCrafter> Or type out the method name in the class body and hit ctrl+space

L615[13:14:57] <LatvianModder> ... Shift+O? ... That creates.. an uppercase O... >.<

L616[13:15:07] <gigaherz> true lol

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L618[13:15:18] <gigaherz> sorry been an annoying week at work

L619[13:15:38] <gigaherz> I already ranted about it yesterday, but short version: 2 weeks in on my new job, done 0 work

L620[13:15:42] <LatvianModder> Ill just go and add @Override at every method now. Brb in 7 hours :D

L621[13:15:44] <PaleoCrafter> Or hit alt-insert and select 'override method' or whatever it is

L622[13:16:01] <PaleoCrafter> You do get paid though, don't you?

L623[13:16:03] <gigaherz> took me a week to setup the computer, just to realize they ordered the wrong version, and had to return it, so they could order a new one for me

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L625[13:16:08] <gigaherz> PaleoCrafter: yes

L626[13:16:19] <gigaherz> but it's annoying to spend the day doing nothing, while waitingfor others to do stuff

L627[13:16:32] <gigaherz> it kills motivation

L628[13:16:37] <PaleoCrafter> True, but can't you just do whatever then? :P

L629[13:17:05] <gigaherz> sure: watch youtube and play slither-io

L630[13:17:17] <LatvianModder> in soviet russia, you kill motivation

L631[13:17:21] <gigaherz> I guess I could get the forge stuff working on my laptop

L632[13:17:23] <madcrazydrumma> gigaherz, how would I load the model? Would I still be using IBakedModel in this case like you do?

L633[13:17:23] <PaleoCrafter> What kind of job is it btw? Was it that JavaScript one?

L634[13:17:25] <gigaherz> and do mc modding at work

L635[13:17:38] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: bad memory, what was the context?

L636[13:17:39] <gigaherz> XD

L637[13:17:50] <gigaherz> PaleoCrafter: web frontend development, yes

L638[13:17:52] <madcrazydrumma> Rendering those spell animation things using the obj cube

L639[13:17:55] <gigaherz> although it's not specifically javascript

L640[13:18:00] <gigaherz> they use coffeescript withangular

L641[13:18:05] <LatvianModder> You dont use json models, gigaherz?

L642[13:18:09] <PaleoCrafter> Ah

L643[13:18:14] <gigaherz> madcrazydrumma: ah right

L644[13:18:25] <gigaherz> yes if you load a .obj model

L645[13:18:30] <gigaherz> you'll end up with an IBakedModel

L646[13:18:41] <PaleoCrafter> I loath coffeescript almost as much as pure JS

L647[13:18:43] <LatvianModder> but.. you can load .obj from jsons

L648[13:18:44] <gigaherz> LatvianModder: notwhen it's anything morecomplex than a cube

L649[13:18:54] <gigaherz> LatvianModder: uh?

L650[13:19:03] <gigaherz> we are talking about custom rendering on a gui

L651[13:19:10] <gigaherz> it's not a block or item

L652[13:19:24] <madcrazydrumma> ^^

L653[13:19:34] <madcrazydrumma> I'm gonna be using this model to render a spell sort of effect into my gui

L654[13:19:39] <gigaherz> and yes, the cube could be done with json, but meh

L655[13:19:41] <PaleoCrafter> The only reasonable 'preprocessor' I've found so far is Dart I think, and that's still kinda horrible in lots of ways

L656[13:20:02] <gigaherz> PaleoCrafter: Typescript looks nice

L657[13:20:31] <gigaherz> Coffeescript is more like plain javascript, just replacing function(){}with lambdas

L658[13:21:06] <PaleoCrafter> Isn't Typescript really just typing added?

L659[13:21:11] <madcrazydrumma> Should i be using json then if its easier or?

L660[13:21:38] <gigaherz> sortof, yes, but not exactly

L661[13:21:50] <gigaherz> typescript has actual classes with constructors, even

L662[13:22:07] <gigaherz> oh wait that's also in ecma6

L663[13:22:46] <PaleoCrafter> Didn't look into it recently, but there was something else TS missed that Dart at least offered

L664[13:23:58] <gigaherz> hmm but dart's ability to compile to js isn't something implicit like it is for TS/CS

L665[13:24:03] <gigaherz> from what I'm reading

L666[13:24:12] <gigaherz> there have been 3 different "to javascript" compilers so far

L667[13:24:14] <PaleoCrafter> Yeah, it isn't

L668[13:24:15] <gigaherz> asn they all have some issues

L669[13:24:15] <gigaherz> XD

L670[13:24:38] <gigaherz> and what i'll be working on uses CS/TS for the web parts

L671[13:24:40] <PaleoCrafter> Dart also is more than just the language unlike the others

L672[13:24:43] <gigaherz> the server parts are java

L673[13:27:23] <PaleoCrafter> While you don't have anything to work, why don't you convert your colleagues to Scala? :3

L674[13:27:44] <gigaherz> because I don't like scala ;P

L675[13:28:04] <gigaherz> (or coffeescript, tbh)

L676[13:28:30] <gigaherz> I'm not a fan of those reduced syntax things and pseudo-functional programming sugar

L677[13:28:35] <PaleoCrafter> That's why you convert your colleagues, they'll tell you how great it is and you'll be seeing it's beauty

L678[13:28:44] <gigaherz> both scala and coffeescript are like that ;P

L679[13:30:31] <PaleoCrafter> Tsk

L680[13:31:08] <PaleoCrafter> Don't you dare mention that atrocity in one sentence with Scala

L681[13:32:41] <gigaherz> XD

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L683[13:33:53] <LatvianModder> Does minecraft not use @Override or is it just decompiler not showing them?

L684[13:34:23] <PaleoCrafter> The Decompiler doesn't add thegn

L685[13:34:26] <PaleoCrafter> *them

L686[13:34:50] <gigaherz> @Override isn't kept after compiling

L687[13:34:57] <gigaherz> and the decompiler just shows what the code had

L688[13:35:00] <LatvianModder> And I also add @SideOnly(CLIENT) annotation if parent method does.. is that bad?

L689[13:35:08] <LatvianModder> like Item.addInformation() or getSubItems()

L690[13:35:11] <gigaherz> if we wanted to have @Override on all actual overrides, the decompiler would have to artificially add them

L691[13:35:17] <gigaherz> it's unnecessary

L692[13:35:28] <gigaherz> since your method is never called directly

L693[13:35:40] <gigaherz> and @Override doesn't exist in the class file

L694[13:35:43] <PaleoCrafter> And we don't have annotations due to the obfuscator anyway (also that changed in 1.9.x)

L695[13:35:45] <LatvianModder> ah, I see, in @Override, its @Retention(RetentionPolicy.SOURCE)

L696[13:35:50] <gigaherz> it will just not override and that's all

L697[13:36:36] <PaleoCrafter> Eh, adding the annotation is actually good and sort of recommended

L698[13:36:54] <gigaherz> the @SideOnly?

L699[13:37:01] <PaleoCrafter> Yeh

L700[13:37:02] <gigaherz> lex madei t very clear that it should never be used by mods

L701[13:37:14] <gigaherz> unless it's strictly necessary because it causes loading issues otherwise

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L703[13:37:23] <PaleoCrafter> Yeah, of course

L704[13:37:58] <tterrag> overriding methods *is* when it's necessary

L705[13:38:16] <tterrag> That and extending classes

L706[13:38:26] <gigaherz> only when the methods or classes use types that only exist on the one side

L707[13:38:30] <gigaherz> otherwise, it doesn't matter

L708[13:38:33] <gigaherz> the method will just not override

L709[13:38:36] <gigaherz> but will still be there

L710[13:38:40] <PaleoCrafter> You don't technically need to it as long as you don't reference client only stuff, but better be safe than sorry :P

L711[13:38:46] <tterrag> ^

L712[13:38:51] <tterrag> There is no harm

L713[13:39:06] <PaleoCrafter> Basically the same reason as for adding @Override

L714[13:39:11] <tterrag> lex is just against people using it outside of vanilla

L715[13:39:20] <tterrag> Because few people actually understand what it does

L716[13:39:40] <PaleoCrafter> It does the thing, with the stuff, right?

L717[13:39:44] <tterrag> mhm

L718[13:39:54] <tterrag> *Pats head*

L719[13:40:11] <barteks2x> That remonded ma that I need to finally take the time and make my mod work for server (use SizedProxy)

L720[13:43:01] <LatvianModder> man, I just went though soooo much garbage code thanks to adding @Override to all methods.. I really need to rewrite my mods :D

L721[13:43:11] <gigaherz> XD

L722[13:43:16] <gigaherz> that's why it's so good to have it

L723[13:43:16] <gigaherz> ;p

L724[13:43:30] <LatvianModder> No, not because of @Override

L725[13:43:42] <LatvianModder> Im just going trough manually every file and reading it

L726[13:43:48] <gigaherz> Oh

L727[13:43:49] <gigaherz> XD

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L734[14:02:56] <tterrag> gigaherz: if I create a local variable, then push that into a vector, is it invalid still once I leave the method scope?

L735[14:02:58] <tterrag> C++ obviously :P

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L737[14:04:28] <gigaherz> depends

L738[14:04:32] <gigaherz> are both byvalue?

L739[14:04:51] <tterrag> eh no?

L740[14:05:02] <tterrag> I don't really know :P

L741[14:05:02] <tterrag> I don't think push_back is

L742[14:05:23] <gigaherz> Class1 something; vec.push_back(something); --- it's ok, buth are stored by value

L743[14:05:39] <gigaherz> Class1 *something; vec.push_back(something); --- it's ok, both are stored by pointer

L744[14:05:52] <gigaherz> Class1 *something; vec.push_back(&something); --- it's ok, the vector stores the value

L745[14:05:57] <gigaherz> eh *

L746[14:06:09] <gigaherz> Class1 something; vec.push_back(&something); --- that's BAD, the vector would store a pointer to the stack

L747[14:06:53] <tterrag> ok well, I had this code, and it segfaults immediately http://pastebin.com/bXbwuxLF

L748[14:07:04] <tterrag> I changed it to this, and it doesn't :P http://pastebin.com/Mexb6wCx

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L750[14:07:07] <gigaherz> yep

L751[14:07:09] <gigaherz> that's the BAD case

L752[14:07:09] <gigaherz> ;P

L753[14:07:18] <gigaherz> your vector stores a reference to the stack

L754[14:07:23] <tterrag> hm

L755[14:07:26] <tterrag> ok

L756[14:07:26] <gigaherz> you should use a pointer instead of an inline value

L757[14:07:37] <tterrag> alright

L758[14:07:38] <gigaherz> ToolPanel * panel = new ToolPanel(10, 10);

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L761[14:07:49] <tterrag> but this should be fine http://pastebin.com/uJH2PdU0

L762[14:08:08] <tterrag> (different part of the code)

L763[14:08:09] <gigaherz> yep, since the vector contains the values

L764[14:08:19] <gigaherz> so it copied the data, instead of referencing it

L765[14:08:23] <tterrag> I see

L766[14:08:24] <tterrag> alright

L767[14:08:35] <gigaherz> note however: if your copy constructor copy-constructs pointers as-is

L768[14:08:41] <gigaherz> those pointers will get copied around, not cloned ;P

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L770[14:09:06] <gigaherz> just be aware of that when using value semantics ;P

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L772[14:11:39] <tterrag> what am i even supposed to do with this http://i.imgur.com/c1kQESu.png

L773[14:13:01] <unascribed> "0xBAADF00D ("bad food") is used by Microsoft's LocalAlloc(LMEM_FIXED) to indicate uninitialised allocated heap memory when the debug heap is used."

L774[14:13:19] <tterrag> O_o

L775[14:13:54] <tterrag> I don't even know what that means

L776[14:15:26] <mikebald> Think it means you're trying to read uninitialized memory

L777[14:15:59] <tterrag> no stacktrace? I have 20 or so classes, how am I meant to debug this

L778[14:16:27] <gigaherz> yeh it's one of the dummy values used in debug builds

L779[14:16:57] <gigaherz> tterrag: the runtime can't detect those without the program crawling to death

L780[14:17:25] <gigaherz> but hmm

L781[14:17:43] <gigaherz> wtf is corrupting the stack pointer, that is the question

L782[14:17:44] <gigaherz> XD

L783[14:17:53] <gigaherz> tterrag: time for you to add a debug print at the beginning of each method XD

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L789[14:23:41] <thecodewarrior> ****ing scala.actors.threadpool.Arrays

L790[14:24:06] <unascribed> remove the scala jars from your classpath

L791[14:24:18] <tterrag> what the hell?? java just started updating randomly

L792[14:24:27] <ollieread> It does that

L793[14:24:38] <gigaherz> "started updating"?

L794[14:24:38] <tterrag> with a pop up window and everything?

L795[14:24:44] <ollieread> Yeah

L796[14:24:45] <tterrag> http://i.imgur.com/IHvl5nO.png

L797[14:24:47] <LordSaad> how do you get an item object from it's string id? like "testmod:wrenchItem"

L798[14:24:49] <tterrag> it's worse than windows

L799[14:24:51] <gigaherz> just started downloading the files without pressing next?

L800[14:24:56] <gigaherz> woah that's as bad as windows 10

L801[14:24:57] <tterrag> I clicked *nothing*

L802[14:25:04] <tterrag> I was in the middle of coding

L803[14:25:08] <ollieread> How is it worse than Windows?

L804[14:25:11] <gigaherz> I guess Oracle are also fed up with people ignoring updates

L805[14:25:12] <gigaherz> XD

L806[14:25:16] <ollieread> How is Windows updating bad>

L807[14:25:22] <gigaherz> ollieread: used windows 10?

L808[14:25:29] <ollieread> Yes, since the day we got it for free

L809[14:25:47] <LordSaad> ^

L810[14:25:50] <gigaherz> you know how in the current windows 10 release, you can still sortog "ignore" the updates?

L811[14:25:50] <LordSaad> its a great os

L812[14:25:56] <ollieread> Well

L813[14:25:59] <gigaherz> by not clicking schedule?

L814[14:26:00] <ollieread> I've never been asked to update

L815[14:26:12] <gigaherz> yeah athat means

L816[14:26:15] <gigaherz> the machine woke up at 2-3am

L817[14:26:19] <gigaherz> and updated itself

L818[14:26:26] <gigaherz> which is good in an office

L819[14:26:27] <ollieread> I don't turn it off

L820[14:26:33] <gigaherz> then it must have rebooted itself

L821[14:26:38] <gigaherz> ?

L822[14:26:45] <gigaherz> because there's simply no way to disable that

L823[14:26:53] <ollieread> I've seen a reboot while I was asleep like...twice maybe?

L824[14:27:05] <gigaherz> well lucky you

L825[14:27:10] <gigaherz> I have my laptop on my bed while I sleep

L826[14:27:13] <gigaherz> cos I use it at night

L827[14:27:23] <gigaherz> and 2-3 times, it woke me up by booting the laptop

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L829[14:27:29] <ollieread> When I restart it occasionally, it will install updates then

L830[14:27:34] <gigaherz> I had to manually disable the wakeup timers

L831[14:27:41] <gigaherz> yeah

L832[14:27:45] <gigaherz> Microsoft thinks they know better

L833[14:27:51] <gigaherz> Insider Previews changedthat

L834[14:27:54] <ollieread> It doesn't turn itself back on if I do turn it off at night

L835[14:27:55] <gigaherz> you can't "not schedule" anymore

L836[14:28:00] <gigaherz> it WILL schedule for you

L837[14:28:10] <ollieread> Well it can't. Because I shut it down properly.

L838[14:28:17] <mathew_653> Hey guys got a few questions, one relating to designing a launcher for forge(I don't know if this channel is for this stuff) and one relating to mod development.

L839[14:28:17] <ollieread> Schedule what?

L840[14:28:18] <gigaherz> doesn't matter

L841[14:28:23] <gigaherz> schedule a reboot

L842[14:28:28] <gigaherz> windows 10 REBOOTS ITSELF

L843[14:28:33] <gigaherz> even if you have applications open with unsaved work

L844[14:28:43] <ollieread> Never encountered that

L845[14:28:50] <gigaherz> lucky you

L846[14:28:51] <ollieread> Don't recall being asked to reboot either

L847[14:28:59] <gigaherz> it doesn't ask

L848[14:29:00] <gigaherz> just does

L849[14:29:02] <ollieread> or schedule

L850[14:29:05] <gigaherz> wat

L851[14:29:08] <gigaherz> are you sure you use windows 10?

L852[14:29:12] <ollieread> Yeah

L853[14:29:16] <gigaherz> wait

L854[14:29:34] <gigaherz> in "advanced options" of windows update

L855[14:29:37] <gigaherz> you must have it set to "automatic"

L856[14:29:42] <gigaherz> which means, it won't ask to schedule at all

L857[14:29:47] <gigaherz> it just installs and reboots at its own whims

L858[14:30:00] <ollieread> Yeah I can see that there's a restart scheduled

L859[14:30:06] <ollieread> It won't restart though

L860[14:30:15] <gigaherz> well it did for me

L861[14:30:23] <ollieread> It says that its scheduled for 10pm

L862[14:30:23] <gigaherz> and in Insider Preview builds

L863[14:30:30] <gigaherz> it's even worse

L864[14:30:31] <ollieread> Which is when I'm usually playing games or its off

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L866[14:30:34] <gigaherz> they made it HARDER to delay updates

L867[14:30:43] <gigaherz> is your computer able to boot itself?

L868[14:30:47] <mathew_653> People use windows updates?

L869[14:30:59] <gigaherz> mathew_653: no they didn't

L870[14:31:03] <gigaherz> that'swhy ms took the drastic measure

L871[14:31:07] <gigaherz> and made it impossible to disable them

L872[14:31:11] <tterrag> now I managed to freeze the debug process -_-

L873[14:31:15] <tterrag> neither IDE nor windows can kill it

L874[14:31:24] <gigaherz> it's because people disabled automatic updates

L875[14:31:34] <ollieread> problem solved

L876[14:31:35] <unascribed> yay zombie processes

L877[14:31:37] <gigaherz> that people like me are now forced to deal with this shit

L878[14:31:48] <ollieread> My computer can't boot itself

L879[14:31:50] <mathew_653> Can one not just physicaly tear the exe out or does win10 do the full on "System code red" junk?

L880[14:31:52] <ollieread> and I just restarted

L881[14:31:53] <gigaherz> ollieread: lucky you

L882[14:31:54] <ollieread> No issue

L883[14:31:55] <gigaherz> both of mine can.

L884[14:32:03] <gigaherz> and windows chooses to do that at 2am

L885[14:32:06] <ollieread> I think it's capable

L886[14:32:09] <ollieread> It just doesn't

L887[14:32:29] <gigaherz> yeah lucky you

L888[14:32:31] <ollieread> Rebooting also takes about 30 seconds

L889[14:32:33] <tterrag> apparently IDE was forcing it to stay alive

L890[14:32:37] <gigaherz> Microsoft must love you or something

L891[14:32:38] <tterrag> quitting IDE killed it

L892[14:32:49] <gigaherz> yeah I have VMware running stuff here

L893[14:32:51] <ollieread> Ahaha nah fuck Microsoft

L894[14:32:54] <gigaherz> it takes 2-3 minutes to shutdown

L895[14:32:58] <ollieread> I had an update that fucked my computer over

L896[14:33:03] <gigaherz> since it has to save the VM state before rebooting

L897[14:33:04] <ollieread> It just couldn't get past 33%

L898[14:33:04] <mathew_653> Eh I still use 7 this end atm

L899[14:33:09] <ollieread> Because of regedits

L900[14:33:26] <ollieread> I have VirtualHost running stuff

L901[14:33:26] <gigaherz> mathew_653: the license for windows 10

L902[14:33:32] <gigaherz> says Microsoft can terminate your license

L903[14:33:42] <gigaherz> if you choose to work around the update system and choose to not update

L904[14:34:01] <mathew_653> Then surely their just inviting linux in the door.

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L906[14:34:12] <mathew_653> I debate if that is a bad thing

L907[14:34:16] <gigaherz> they haven't exercised that yet

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L909[14:34:44] <mathew_653> Because it is not really equiped for day to day non technical user usage particularly for app installation and maintance.

L910[14:35:00] <ollieread> The assumption that microsoft with some silly shit in their license agreement invites linux in the door is hilarious

L911[14:35:11] <mathew_653> True

L912[14:35:14] <gigaherz> nah linux isn't really fit for an everyday use os

L913[14:35:22] <unascribed> as someone who uses Linux, I disagree >.>

L914[14:35:25] <gigaherz> you still need a techincal person "on call" to use linux

L915[14:35:25] <mathew_653> it more invites people hacking windows 10 and telling ms to eff of

L916[14:35:31] <gigaherz> unascribed: you are a power user

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L918[14:35:43] <tterrag> still 7 here as well

L919[14:35:46] <unascribed> you just said "everyday use", not "everyday use for normal people" :P

L920[14:35:46] <mathew_653> True

L921[14:35:48] <gigaherz> you know how to deal with linux upgrades breaking sound or wifi

L922[14:35:50] <tterrag> I have 10 on my laptop and it only confirms my choice to stick with 7

L923[14:35:52] <unascribed> I'd agree Linux is not good for normal people

L924[14:35:53] <tterrag> I hate everything about it

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L926[14:36:04] <mathew_653> Guys

L927[14:36:07] <gigaherz> a non-technical user would be like "wtf kind of shit is this? give me windows back!"

L928[14:36:08] <gigaherz> ;P

L929[14:36:08] <masa> welp, I just released a new tiny mod, so now I have to maintain and update 8 mods every time there is a Minecraft update...

L930[14:36:13] <mathew_653> I know people here love linux and love windows

L931[14:36:24] <mathew_653> But we should't get into a cat fight over it

L932[14:36:28] <ollieread> I prefer OSX to linux

L933[14:36:31] <ollieread> and Windows to OSX

L934[14:36:33] <ollieread> 'cause games

L935[14:36:41] * unascribed ignites

L936[14:36:42] <gigaherz> I like the windows envionment more

L937[14:36:43] <tterrag> a bold statement in a programmer channel. I respect that :P

L938[14:36:54] <gigaherz> OSX is just... annoying.

L939[14:36:58] <ollieread> I'm a web developer by profession

L940[14:37:04] <ollieread> For whatever reason, OSX seems suited for that

L941[14:37:07] <unascribed> I like OSX's interface

L942[14:37:09] <unascribed> but I despise the hardware

L943[14:37:10] <gigaherz> I hate that the green butotn in the titlebar is "fullscreen"

L944[14:37:16] <ollieread> yeah that's shit

L945[14:37:19] <mathew_653> I use debian and windows 7 and I can see the pros and cons in both but anyhow anyone know howto make a 2d item icon tintable?

L946[14:37:22] <gigaherz> I hate that certain apps don't even have a true maximize option

L947[14:37:24] <ollieread> But my Windows machine is stupid powerful compared to my mbp

L948[14:37:25] <gigaherz> and only expand vertically

L949[14:37:30] <ollieread> and linux, well, linux can fuck off

L950[14:37:30] <unascribed> mathew_653, getColorFromItemStack is still used

L951[14:37:37] <ollieread> If you use a gui with linux you're a dick

L952[14:37:40] <unascribed> use "layer0" "layer1" etc, it's passed as the second argument

L953[14:37:44] <unascribed> ollieread, can confirm, am a dick

L954[14:37:46] <mathew_653> is that rgb?

L955[14:37:46] <gigaherz> I hate the dock vs the windows 7+ taskbar

L956[14:37:52] <unascribed> mathew_653, yes, it's a packed RGB int

L957[14:37:56] <unascribed> 0x00RRGGBB

L958[14:37:58] <unascribed> where 0 is unused

L959[14:38:02] <unascribed> would be alpha if it was supported

L960[14:38:05] <mathew_653> How long has it existed for?

L961[14:38:09] <unascribed> no idea

L962[14:38:10] <unascribed> a long time

L963[14:38:11] <gigaherz> I dislike the "menus are way up there at the top of the screen even if the window is small and at the bottom"

L964[14:38:13] <mathew_653> since 1.7.x?

L965[14:38:18] <unascribed> since forever

L966[14:38:23] <mathew_653> Good thanks

L967[14:38:25] <gigaherz> it just takes more effort to use, for no reason.

L968[14:38:37] <gigaherz> I guess people who like keyboard shortcuts don't mind

L969[14:38:38] <unascribed> in 1.7 though the second argument is render pass

L970[14:38:39] <mathew_653> Alright does this channel cover development for custom launchers what support forge?

L971[14:38:39] <unascribed> not layer

L972[14:38:47] <gigaherz> mathew_653: nope

L973[14:38:53] <gigaherz> lex dislikes 3rdparty launchers

L974[14:39:04] <gigaherz> his stance is "use the vanilla one"

L975[14:39:10] <unascribed> (and he's not wrong)

L976[14:39:23] <unascribed> I maintain that rather than custom launchers there should be a separate modpack manager application

L977[14:39:30] <LatvianModder> gigaherz: Shoot me. https://github.com/LatvianModder/FTBLib/commit/b8906ca03104089c4af8a07de0496a4f8ef5b6be

L978[14:39:37] <gigaherz> the curse "launcher" boots a vanilla launcher

L979[14:39:37] <LatvianModder> I did this by hand :D

L980[14:39:45] <gigaherz> with the modpack injected as a profile

L981[14:39:45] <gigaherz> XD

L982[14:39:48] <unascribed> you did WHAT

L983[14:39:49] <tterrag> whyyyyy would you do that by hand

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L985[14:39:54] <tterrag> what is wrong with you?

L986[14:40:01] <unascribed> right-click the project, refactor, cleanup, "Add missing @Override annotations", done

L987[14:40:13] * unascribed doubly ignites

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L989[14:40:35] <LatvianModder> I wanted to read my code. This helped me to actually find one bug

L990[14:40:42] <mathew_653> The only reason I was making a custom launcher is simplely for quality of life, I have managed to get all of it working aside one thing but as this channel is not for this stuff I will respect the wishes of moderators here

L991[14:40:45] <LatvianModder> And I added so many to-dos

L992[14:40:58] <gigaherz> mathew_653: yeah np

L993[14:41:06] <gigaherz> it's not a banned topic

L994[14:41:12] <mathew_653> Alright

L995[14:41:16] <gigaherz> we just don't help people develop them

L996[14:41:19] <gigaherz> ;P

L997[14:41:22] <LatvianModder> Yeah :P

L998[14:41:26] <mathew_653> The only issue I have atm is with validating the token

L999[14:41:27] <gigaherz> so long as the launcher is legit

L1000[14:41:34] <mathew_653> it can still work xD

L1001[14:41:36] <gigaherz> if it's launcher designedto allow loading mc without paying

L1002[14:41:41] <mathew_653> And the launcher is 100% legit

L1003[14:41:45] <gigaherz> then nope that's not acceptable for discussing ;P

L1004[14:41:47] <mathew_653> it requires a mojang account

L1005[14:41:49] <mathew_653> ;)

L1006[14:41:49] <unascribed> mathew_653, http://wiki.vg/Authentication

L1007[14:41:52] <gigaherz> good good ;P

L1008[14:42:02] <mathew_653> Ah hah unascribed that'd be the reference i used

L1009[14:42:02] <unascribed> won't help you with it but there's the relevant docs :P

L1010[14:42:25] <mathew_653> Only the validate packet I referenced from there is not functional for me

L1011[14:42:56] <tterrag> still stuck on this segfault

L1012[14:46:09] <ollieread> tterrag, segfault meants segmentation fault

L1013[14:46:11] <ollieread> You are welcome

L1014[14:46:25] <ollieread> Now you can continue

L1015[14:46:28] <ollieread> No need to thank me

L1016[14:46:52] <gigaherz> ollieread: he's having stack corruption issues

L1017[14:46:53] <gigaherz> XD

L1018[14:47:00] <gigaherz> of all the possible ways to crash >_<

L1019[14:47:08] <ollieread> That sounds terrible

L1020[14:47:13] <ollieread> I'm having roast pork chow mein

L1021[14:47:31] <thor12022> there's no fun like useless call stack fun

L1022[14:47:34] <tterrag> it's because I know nothing about this stupid language and I am taking 2 high level CS courses in it -_-

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L1024[14:48:05] <gigaherz> tterrag: some code overwrote the stack

L1025[14:48:11] <gigaherz> including the return address

L1026[14:48:27] <tterrag> I don't konw what that means :(

L1027[14:48:31] <tterrag> how is that even possible?

L1028[14:48:37] <gigaherz> check how you use pointers/arrays

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L1030[14:48:46] <gigaherz> it's relatively easy

L1031[14:48:50] <thor12022> usually it means you passed a pointer/ref to a local variable into somethig, left scope, and then tried to use the pointer/ref

L1032[14:48:56] <gigaherz> int i[1]; i[3]=0;

L1033[14:49:02] <gigaherz> that would write a 0 in the stack

L1034[14:49:11] <gigaherz> and give it theright offset

L1035[14:49:17] <gigaherz> it wouldwrite 0 where the return address would be

L1036[14:49:28] <gigaherz> C++ doesn't do bounds checking

L1037[14:49:33] <gigaherz> on arrays/pointers

L1038[14:49:38] <tterrag> I know

L1039[14:49:40] <tterrag> I don't use arrays though

L1040[14:49:44] <tterrag> (yet)

L1041[14:49:47] <tterrag> some vectors, no arrays

L1042[14:50:06] <gigaherz> it can also happen if you were to pass a pointer to the stack to a function, and this function hada buffer overrun

L1043[14:50:19] <tterrag> whahuh

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L1045[15:00:01] <gigaherz> woah amazing trick with the arrows and the elytra: https://youtu.be/se6GuN9bZ30?list=WL&t=9482

L1046[15:00:14] <barteks2x> It's a bit annoying that IBlockState.getLightOpacity needs World and BlockPos

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L1053[15:11:16] <tterrag> gigaherz: I've nailed it down a bit

L1054[15:11:26] <tterrag> it's happwning when I call bg.draw() which is a function I have used many times and haven't edited for a while

L1055[15:11:26] <tterrag> draw() is just http://pastebin.com/j35K05LP

L1056[15:11:34] <tterrag> but it only happens after I click and drag...so I somehow must be overwriting its memory

L1057[15:11:43] <tterrag> this is what my cout says http://i.imgur.com/f4D9Uid.png

L1058[15:11:44] <tterrag> so after the mouse is clicked, moved, on the NEXT draw it segfaults

L1059[15:12:03] <tterrag> this is the only special code that will run on a click&drag https://github.com/tterrag1098/COSC482/blob/master/2D%20Project/src/tool/ToolBox.cpp#L27-L31 is that suspect?

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L1061[15:19:51] <gigaherz> what does "lastBox" point at?

L1062[15:20:00] <tterrag> a pointer in the header

L1063[15:20:02] <gigaherz> if it were an invalid pointer to a class that isn't REALLY a "box"

L1064[15:22:00] <tterrag> it doesn't crash in mouseMoved

L1065[15:22:29] <tterrag> it crashes on the next draw() call (this one https://github.com/tterrag1098/COSC482/blob/master/2D%20Project/src/render/GraphicsEngine.cpp#L135)

L1066[15:22:40] <tterrag> also, I just checked, the reference seems to be fine

L1067[15:24:48] <tterrag> gigaherz: ^^

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L1069[15:31:44] <LatvianModder> Never happened to me :D http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/git_commit.png

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L1071[15:37:28] <barteks2x> tterrag: is this actually called: https://github.com/tterrag1098/COSC482/blob/master/2D%20Project/src/tool/ToolLine.cpp#L25 ? setPos2 calls load which seems to do a lot of things.

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L1073[15:38:19] <tterrag> ToolLine is not active

L1074[15:38:36] <tterrag> only one tool is active at once and atm it is ToolBox. but TooLbox calls setHeight/Width which also calls load() so yes :P

L1075[15:38:43] <tterrag> load is just the GPU uploading

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L1077[15:39:19] <tterrag> barteks2x: &

L1078[15:39:21] <tterrag> ^^*

L1079[15:39:59] <barteks2x> I have no idea why am I even trying to figure it out :D

L1080[15:43:12] <tterrag> neither do I, so

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L1082[15:45:16] <tterrag> specifically it is segfaulting at glDrawElements

L1083[15:45:23] <tterrag> :(

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L1090[16:00:30] <tterrag> I fixed it by changing stuff to pointers

L1091[16:00:34] <tterrag> I hate this language -_-

L1092[16:00:59] <thor12022> c++ tends to be a bit unfriendly for the first couple years

L1093[16:01:09] <tterrag> years? heh

L1094[16:01:14] <tterrag> I've been using it since january :P

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L1096[16:01:44] <thor12022> c++11 & c++14 have helped considerably

L1097[16:01:52] <tterrag> I am using 11

L1098[16:01:57] <tterrag> yes some things in it are nice

L1099[16:02:09] <thor12022> but using smart pointers only helps so much when you have to convert them back at every library boundry

L1100[16:02:50] <tterrag> and so far I have made this http://i.imgur.com/S0eBXTm.gifv

L1101[16:02:51] <tterrag> lol

L1102[16:02:56] <mathew_653> nighty night

L1103[16:05:41] <thor12022> out of curiosity, what'd you change? it looked pretty good, (excepting the opengl calls that I don't know enough about)

L1104[16:05:59] <tterrag> https://github.com/tterrag1098/COSC482/commit/094540c3bc85a7c69c7b25f44c4344a56ce108cd

L1105[16:06:08] <tterrag> ignore the layout file diffs I should really ignore those

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L1107[16:08:58] <barteks2x> Those 3 lines in ToolPane.addButton don't look like only changing stuff to pointers

L1108[16:10:07] <tterrag> oh no

L1109[16:10:11] <tterrag> an extra change made it in

L1110[16:10:11] <tterrag> :P

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L1112[16:10:21] <thor12022> I did notice one thing about your project. . . https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=%2F%5Cbdelete%2F%5Cb+user%3Atterrag1098+path%3A%222d+project%22&type=Repositories&ref=searchresults

L1113[16:10:23] <tterrag> I fixed the background quad not adjusting to new buttons

L1114[16:10:31] <tterrag> yes yes

L1115[16:10:36] <tterrag> garbage collection is.... //todo

L1116[16:10:37] <tterrag> :P

L1117[16:11:16] <thor12022> heh, I've inherited code from projects like that. . .

L1118[16:11:41] <tterrag> to be fair, I don't waste much

L1119[16:11:59] <tterrag> I can't really think of any memory leaks atm

L1120[16:12:07] <tterrag> potential ones, yes

L1121[16:12:10] <tterrag> :P

L1122[16:13:49] <thor12022> the it'll-get-cleaned-when-the-process-ends approach

L1123[16:15:11] <tterrag> :D

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L1125[16:16:52] <thor12022> when have some apps that don't stop until the hardware does that do that. terrible for Statement Coverage Analysis

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L1130[16:22:51] <barteks2x> Why the hell minecraftforum uses so much memory? 2-3 tabs and just these consume more memory than all my 15 other open tabs

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L1133[16:30:21] <gigaherz> barteks2x: doesn't use that much here

L1134[16:31:01] <gigaherz> wait I guess you mean with a post open?

L1135[16:31:15] <barteks2x> I don't know exact numbers, but I have a 2 ch high bar on my screen that shows memory usage. I have 8gb. It drops a few mm when I close mcforum.

L1136[16:31:43] <gigaherz> the forum posts for mods are huge, generally

L1137[16:31:55] <gigaherz> they contain a shitton of "folded" pieces

L1138[16:32:05] <gigaherz> but all that data is still loaded into memory

L1139[16:32:22] <gigaherz> then there's all the signature pictures, avatars, etc

L1140[16:32:25] <barteks2x> I'm mostly on the last page or on main page

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L1151[17:09:06] <barteks2x> I think I finally got worldgen skylight generation right

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L1154[17:11:08] <barteks2x> I have no idea how I can even approach debugging this: http://imgur.com/J9GDt3W

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L1156[17:11:30] <barteks2x> anyone has any idea how to debug something like that?

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L1160[17:13:17] <gigaherz> barteks2x: what is "this"?

L1161[17:13:19] <gigaherz> the black spots?

L1162[17:13:22] <barteks2x> yes

L1163[17:13:38] <gigaherz> are those blocks at the edges of chunks?

L1164[17:13:44] <barteks2x> I have no idea what causes tham but I can't figure it out for months

L1165[17:13:53] <gigaherz> there's a vanilla "bug"

L1166[17:13:58] <gigaherz> (more accurately a design flat)

L1167[17:13:59] <gigaherz> flaw*

L1168[17:14:14] <barteks2x> they are not on chunk edges. Just... randm. but (almost? never completely in the air

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L1170[17:14:23] <gigaherz> that causes blocks exactly on the edge of a chunk to not get lit

L1171[17:14:29] <barteks2x> I fixed that bug

L1172[17:14:32] <barteks2x> In my mod

L1173[17:14:33] <gigaherz> because they didn't think of adding a "dirty" flag on newly generated chunks

L1174[17:14:40] <barteks2x> It's not caused by that

L1175[17:14:41] <gigaherz> and then processing all dirty chunks AFTERWARD in batch

L1176[17:14:48] <gigaherz> ?

L1177[17:15:18] <gigaherz> isn't it caused by a chunk generating before the neighbour, and thus not having information about the neighbour?

L1178[17:15:22] <LordFokas> gigaherz, Notch Code <3

L1179[17:15:23] <barteks2x> The vanilla bug is because when chunk is generated they calculate skylight if nearby chunks exists. 16 blocks radius. But they actually need 17 block radius to calculate skylight

L1180[17:15:40] <barteks2x> see world.checkLightFor

L1181[17:15:42] <gigaherz> iirc

L1182[17:15:53] <gigaherz> they tried to just fix it in the past

L1183[17:16:02] <gigaherz> and it always caused bad performance degradation during generation

L1184[17:16:05] <LordFokas> and failed miserably

L1185[17:16:13] <gigaherz> so they reverted to having the bug

L1186[17:16:24] <gigaherz> I doubt it's just changing a 16 to 17 ;p

L1187[17:16:31] <barteks2x> that's why cubic chunks wod will have horrible skylight generation performance

L1188[17:16:41] <LordFokas> it doesn't need bug fixing

L1189[17:16:57] <barteks2x> it needs because with cubicc hunks it would be WAY worse

L1190[17:16:58] <LordFokas> it needs a whole refactoring outwards from the core

L1191[17:17:17] <barteks2x> Technically changing Minecraft to have max light value 14 would fix it

L1192[17:17:47] <LordFokas> you can't just fix a bug on a system that's flawed in pretty much every abstraction level.

L1193[17:18:19] <barteks2x> Since I'm rewriting the entire lighting system, I can fix this bug. ANd I did

L1194[17:18:32] <barteks2x> Like, 10 minutes ago

L1195[17:18:36] <gigaherz> heh

L1196[17:19:03] <gigaherz> I'm backporting stuff I did on the 1.9 branch to 1.8.9

L1197[17:19:09] <gigaherz> for Ender-Rift

L1198[17:19:12] <barteks2x> And I'm getting those single spots of incorrect light values. And I have no idea why

L1199[17:19:21] <barteks2x> I don't even kow where to start

L1200[17:20:17] <barteks2x> I had these when when I used horribly slow almost brute-force skylight calculation method

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L1202[17:25:18] <LordFokas> the way lighting works is pretty much just a cached / updatable lightmap, right?

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L1204[17:28:18] <barteks2x> LordFokas: The lightmap is just to store these values. I have a dymaniic structure that is used as a heightmap. And when each cube is generated I check in which places lighting needs update for each x/z coordinate and then use world.checkLightFor to do the update. Here is the method that finds min/max Y: http://pastebin.com/b4dJEupb

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L1206[17:29:50] <tterrag> oh great

L1207[17:29:54] <tterrag> now I get different behavior in debug mode

L1208[17:30:01] <tterrag> hwo is that even possible

L1209[17:30:39] <gigaherz> VS debug builds use the debug runtime

L1210[17:30:46] <gigaherz> which initializes stuff with special invalid values

L1211[17:30:47] <tterrag> not using VS :P

L1212[17:30:59] * gigaherz shrugs

L1213[17:32:47] <barteks2x> I think I have an idea how to start debugging it. It will take a lot of time.

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L1216[17:35:44] <tterrag> hmmm....that would do it http://i.imgur.com/SbKKOOe.png

L1217[17:35:47] <tterrag> but why?

L1218[17:36:13] <tterrag> oic

L1219[17:36:28] <tterrag> buttons(0) :D

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L1222[17:39:14] <gigaherz> lol

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L1224[17:44:59] <MattDahEpic> i cant figure out what to put in the brackets on https://gist.github.com/MattDahEpic/a571ac2ed0ca067736ae89dd2710974e#file-nbtrespectingshapedorerecipe-java-L99 any help?

L1225[17:47:15] <barteks2x> My debug code made my extremely slow skylight code 2x slower

L1226[17:48:04] <barteks2x> And it didn't detect any issue so far....

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L1230[17:52:35] <barteks2x> Why Minecraft sometiems doesn't quit properly and leaves half-dead ram eating process running?

L1231[17:53:38] <gigaherz> you may be leaving a thread running

L1232[17:53:51] <gigaherz> I haven't had that happen myself

L1233[17:54:06] <gigaherz> so it may be your changes?

L1234[17:55:15] <barteks2x> I dont do anything with threads. I think.

L1235[17:55:49] <barteks2x> But it may be mapdb doing something

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L1237[17:59:26] <tterrag> hm...design question. what is a good coloring for a button, pressed and unpressed?

L1238[17:59:38] <tterrag> solid colors only, no textures

L1239[18:00:07] <gigaherz> depends on the overall theme

L1240[18:00:09] <gigaherz> look&feel

L1241[18:00:11] <tterrag> dark :P

L1242[18:00:11] <gigaherz> and intention

L1243[18:00:21] <MattDahEpic> tterrag, unpressed: light grey, pressed: dark grey

L1244[18:00:31] <tterrag> what about the borders?

L1245[18:00:55] <gigaherz> depends on how the rest of the UI is supposed to feel

L1246[18:01:16] <gigaherz> buttons with flat colors and large round corners have the "futuristic" look from like, old star trek

L1247[18:01:44] <tterrag> not doing rounded corners

L1248[18:01:49] <tterrag> they are square buttons with beveled edges

L1249[18:01:50] <tterrag> let me screenshot

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L1251[18:03:49] <tterrag> http://i.imgur.com/Yr1WQQt.png

L1252[18:03:55] <tterrag> as you can see there's not enough contrast there for it to scale well

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L1254[18:04:38] * gigaherz facepalms

L1255[18:04:42] <gigaherz> storage drawers has a bug

L1256[18:04:49] <gigaherz> when there are no items in the "network"

L1257[18:04:52] <gigaherz> the IItemHandler fails

L1258[18:05:05] <gigaherz> but hoppers still work regardless, becauseit defaults to IInventory when IItemHandler fails

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L1260[18:05:27] <gigaherz> or wait

L1261[18:05:27] <tterrag> gigaherz: ^^ screenshot :P

L1262[18:05:28] <gigaherz> hmm

L1263[18:05:32] <gigaherz> I can't replicate this time

L1264[18:05:48] <gigaherz> eh that color is ok? ;P

L1265[18:05:57] <tterrag> it doesn't scale well to the smaller sizes

L1266[18:06:04] <tterrag> (and I want to use that smallest size)

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L1268[18:06:28] <gigaherz> make the highlight brighter?

L1269[18:09:34] <tterrag> gigaherz: I upped the contrast a bit and I'm pretty happy with it. but the pressed colors are meh http://i.imgur.com/YdIKZx5.png

L1270[18:09:39] <gigaherz> okay wtf

L1271[18:09:47] <gigaherz> with the rift interface

L1272[18:09:48] <gigaherz> it works

L1273[18:09:56] <gigaherz> but with the browser, it won't

L1274[18:11:39] <barteks2x> typing stopped working in IDEA again

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L1276[18:12:09] <gigaherz> why the F does mc "retrySlotClick" when transferStackInSlot can't work?

L1277[18:13:35] <unascribed> because recursing without limits is always the answer?

L1278[18:14:18] <gigaherz> hmm I think I'm doing this wrong

L1279[18:14:54] <tterrag> gigaherz: I think this is a decent look http://i.imgur.com/OP2lGvb.gifv

L1280[18:15:00] <tterrag> in the end I just buffed the edge size a bit :P

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L1282[18:15:50] <gigaherz> heh yeah

L1283[18:17:40] <gigaherz> oaky let's see if this works now

L1284[18:17:57] <gigaherz> although I understand transferStackInSlot LESS than I thoguht I did

L1285[18:17:57] <gigaherz> XD

L1286[18:18:35] <unascribed> well, this just happened

L1287[18:18:36] <unascribed> https://unascribed.com/i/80a3b86b.png

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L1289[18:18:44] <unascribed> https://unascribed.com/i/4d28cc90.png

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L1291[18:19:19] <tterrag> unascribed: the {} on that lambda are unnecessary

L1292[18:19:23] <unascribed> I know

L1293[18:19:27] <tterrag> ok :P

L1294[18:19:28] <unascribed> but I did it to make the line shorter

L1295[18:19:46] <unascribed> I guess I could omit the braces anyway

L1296[18:20:28] <tterrag> hm

L1297[18:21:15] <tterrag> I need to do sliders for RGB

L1298[18:21:22] <tterrag> but they'd need to be 256 pixels long

L1299[18:22:24] <tterrag> I could probably get away with doing it in intervals of 2

L1300[18:22:39] <tterrag> because really do you need full 24 bit color? :P

L1301[18:24:03] <gigaherz> OOOOH I know why it's so weird and glitchy

L1302[18:24:21] <gigaherz> it's failing ON THE CLIENT

L1303[18:24:23] <gigaherz> but works on the server

L1304[18:24:31] <gigaherz> so when I debugged the code, this was running on both sides

L1305[18:24:36] <gigaherz> and I was getting the client stuff first

L1306[18:25:02] <gigaherz> which is a problem :/

L1307[18:25:13] <gigaherz> because I'm getting ghost items

L1308[18:25:59] <gigaherz> (the stack remains in the hand, and you can place it elsewhere, but the server knows you aren't supposed to have anything in the hand)

L1309[18:26:04] <gigaherz> *cursor

L1310[18:26:50] <gigaherz> anyone knows how I could handle that correctly?

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L1312[18:30:27] <masa> what exactly? transferStackInSlot doesn't work on the client?

L1313[18:30:32] <gigaherz> no

L1314[18:30:42] <gigaherz> let me explain correctly:

L1315[18:31:01] <gigaherz> I was testing my inventory aggregator gui

L1316[18:31:19] <gigaherz> and I discovered that it doesn't work properly when connected to a storage drawers controlled

L1317[18:31:22] <gigaherz> controller*

L1318[18:31:44] <gigaherz> apparently, when the slotClick runs on the client thread

L1319[18:31:51] <gigaherz> the storage controller says there are 0 slots

L1320[18:32:14] <gigaherz> and the Container goes "ok nothing could be inserted, you still have the full stack in the cursor"

L1321[18:32:20] <gigaherz> but then the event runs on the server

L1322[18:32:27] <gigaherz> where the slot count works

L1323[18:32:32] <gigaherz> and the insertion succeeds

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L1325[18:32:48] <gigaherz> so the server container now has this stack in the aggregated inventory

L1326[18:32:59] <gigaherz> which it promptly notifies the client

L1327[18:33:03] <gigaherz> and shows up on the gui

L1328[18:33:11] <gigaherz> whiel still having this "ghost stack" on the mouse

L1329[18:33:34] <gigaherz> I have no idea how to handle this correctly.

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L1331[18:34:34] <masa> hmm, yeah, it won't work completely smoothly if the client side won't agree if the stack can be inserted

L1332[18:34:42] <masa> but you could force update the cursor stack though

L1333[18:34:50] <gigaherz> the only thing I can think of is that

L1334[18:35:08] <gigaherz> to have a special "set stack in cursor" packet, to fix the client

L1335[18:36:16] <masa> I believe this is that one:

L1336[18:36:18] <masa> https://github.com/maruohon/enderutilities/blob/master/src/main/java/fi/dy/masa/enderutilities/inventory/ContainerLargeStacks.java#L48

L1337[18:36:38] <gigaherz> oh?

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L1339[18:37:27] <masa> you can check the uses of that packet in vanilla

L1340[18:37:52] <masa> but those arguments should cause it to update the cursor stack

L1341[18:38:52] <masa> hmm, would it break worse if the client side aggregator accepted the stack even when the server side won't?

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L1344[18:40:27] <masa> just wondering how the sync stuff happens and if that would work better or worse with disagreements on what happened and what didn't

L1345[18:40:33] <gigaherz> hmm dunno

L1346[18:40:41] <gigaherz> but doing that would be way more effort than sending this packet

L1347[18:40:50] <gigaherz> since I just rely on the result of pushItem ;P

L1348[18:40:54] <gigaherz> (insertItem)

L1349[18:41:00] <masa> ok

L1350[18:41:21] <gigaherz> in fact I just finished writing the code to send the packet

L1351[18:41:22] <gigaherz> ;p

L1352[18:42:18] <gigaherz> works \o/

L1353[18:42:21] <gigaherz> good enough for me ;P

L1354[18:43:10] <masa> hehe

L1355[18:45:31] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/commit/77dff0853abfcafa3add6b48a896805d11989fd5#diff-4bb2414f71efa30b36bcef1c9fbb1684R152

L1356[18:45:42] <gigaherz> the linked code block is what did the trick ;P

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L1363[19:12:43] <MattDahEpic> i cant figure out why my recipe wont work. any halp?: https://gist.github.com/MattDahEpic/a571ac2ed0ca067736ae89dd2710974e

L1364[19:13:14] <LordFokas> java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.String cannot be cast to java.lang.Character

L1365[19:13:16] <LordFokas> line 12

L1366[19:13:34] <MattDahEpic> well duh, but i cant figure out WHY

L1367[19:13:37] <LordFokas> you're sending a string instead of a char when declaring a recipe

L1368[19:13:54] <LordFokas> because you're using double quotes instead of single

L1369[19:14:04] <LordFokas> "This is a String" vs 'C'

L1370[19:14:09] <MattDahEpic> pretty sure not: GameRegistry.addRecipe(new NBTRespectingShapedOreRecipe(Items.DIAMOND,"aaa","bbb","ccc",'a',"stairWood",'b',"slabWood",'c',"oreLapis"));

L1371[19:15:20] <MattDahEpic> if thats not the format for recipes ive been doing it wrong for almost 2 years

L1372[19:15:26] <LordFokas> is that line 15 of common proxy?

L1373[19:15:31] <MattDahEpic> yes

L1374[19:16:16] <unascribed> if the code snippets I sent earlier interested anyone, I released the library: https://github.com/unascribed/LambdaNetwork

L1375[19:16:26] <unascribed> fair warning: minimal testing, wrote it on a whim, let me know if it explodes

L1376[19:18:18] <LordFokas> unascribed, everything explodes. It's just a matter of time and persistence

L1377[19:21:40] <LordFokas> IInventory#decrStackSize(slot, amount) and IInventory#setInventorySlotContents(slot, stack) are unaware of sides on ISidedInventory. Are we just supposed to leave them unprotected and trust that other modders will respect ISidedInventory?? :/

L1378[19:21:54] <gigaherz> no

L1379[19:21:58] <gigaherz> you are supposed to use IItemHandler

L1380[19:22:03] <gigaherz> and ignore IInventory/ISidedInventory

L1381[19:22:20] <LordFokas> when did that become a thing?

L1382[19:22:26] <gigaherz> ever singe IItemHandler was merged

L1383[19:22:28] <gigaherz> since*

L1384[19:22:44] <LordFokas> also, how does it work with vanilla?

L1385[19:22:52] <gigaherz> vanilla was appropriately patched

L1386[19:23:02] <LordFokas> <3

L1387[19:23:20] <LordFokas> so, why does IInventory still exist?

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L1389[19:23:37] <gigaherz> becasue it's a vanilla interface

L1390[19:23:40] <gigaherz> we can't just remove it

L1391[19:24:12] <unascribed> the answer to "are we supposed to leave them unprotected" is yes, because there's an ISidedInventory method that returns an array of accessible slots

L1392[19:24:24] <unascribed> so a mod that isn't utter garbage will only call the methods with the slot if it's a valid slot for that side

L1393[19:24:47] <LordFokas> I know, but I don't really trust other coders

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L1395[19:25:20] <masa> you can't protect against stupid

L1396[19:25:40] <masa> or derp

L1397[19:27:08] <masa> ISided tells you which slots are accessible, and if you are allowed to extract and insert from/to a slot from a given side, then you just use the methods in IInventory, that's just how it works

L1398[19:27:35] <gigaherz> indirectly, returning an array is horrible ;p

L1399[19:27:49] <masa> but like giga said, by now you should be in 1.8.9 or 1.9 and not care or use IInventory or ISidedInventory at all, but instead use capabilities and the IItemhandler

L1400[19:27:53] <gigaherz> my rift block has an effective limit of 10 million stacks ;P

L1401[19:28:06] <gigaherz> which means returning an array of 10 million integers ;P

L1402[19:28:16] <LordFokas> I just spent a lot of time coding my I*Inventory wrapper

L1403[19:28:32] <masa> wrapper of what?

L1404[19:28:57] <masa> which MC version are you working against?

L1405[19:29:00] <LordFokas> I guess it's time to drop a few hundred lines of code and go with IItemHandler

L1406[19:29:03] <LordFokas> 1.7.10

L1407[19:29:18] <gigaherz> oh wait 1.7.10

L1408[19:29:26] <gigaherz> IItemHandler didn't exist back then

L1409[19:29:30] <gigaherz> it was added to 1.8.9

L1410[19:30:23] <LordFokas> and they didn't backport it? :(

L1411[19:30:35] <gigaherz> IItemHandler is a Capability

L1412[19:30:43] <gigaherz> and capabilities were added only in late 1.8.0

L1413[19:30:48] <LordFokas> dafuq is a Capability?

L1414[19:30:51] <gigaherz> or was it 1.8.9 already

L1415[19:30:52] <gigaherz> anyhow

L1416[19:30:54] <gigaherz> new system

L1417[19:31:09] <gigaherz> Capabilities are a way to attach "features" to things

L1418[19:31:25] <gigaherz> isntead of implementing the interface to the TileEntity class

L1419[19:31:33] <gigaherz> you can just expose that stuff through capabilities

L1420[19:31:37] <gigaherz> where others can do

L1421[19:31:39] <LordFokas> fucking hell. That's exactly what I was working on

L1422[19:31:42] <gigaherz> hasCapability(the capability id)

L1423[19:31:45] <gigaherz> getCapability(the capability id)

L1424[19:31:48] <gigaherz> or more accurately

L1425[19:31:52] <gigaherz> hasCapability(the capability id, side)

L1426[19:31:57] <gigaherz> getCapability(the capability id, side)

L1427[19:32:09] <gigaherz> where "the id" is actually a Capability class

L1428[19:32:12] * LordFokas cries

L1429[19:32:14] <gigaherz> which has some other helper methods

L1430[19:32:37] <gigaherz> it also works for Entities

L1431[19:32:39] <gigaherz> and ItemStacks

L1432[19:32:44] <LordFokas> that's more or less what I was doing a year ago, but by wrapping and delegating stuff

L1433[19:32:59] <LordFokas> because I still had to expose the interfaces

L1434[19:33:28] <LordFokas> well there goes 90% of the code in my refactoring

L1435[19:33:36] <masa> haha

L1436[19:33:59] <masa> yeah, stop coding for obsolete old junk and get on with the 1.9 times :p

L1437[19:34:19] <LordFokas> you're not gonna see me on 1.9 any time soon

L1438[19:34:53] <LordFokas> might as well drop the mod and restart from scratch... yet again

L1439[19:34:59] <gigaherz> well if oyu are on 1.7.10 still, then you are sortof missing the train as we speak

L1440[19:35:10] <masa> ^

L1441[19:35:13] <gigaherz> since these days are when the 1.8.9 modpacks are getting established ;P

L1442[19:35:21] <masa> I have zero interest in anything 1.7.10 at this point

L1443[19:35:24] <gigaherz> whiel waiting for 1.9 forge to be a thing

L1444[19:35:31] <LordFokas> I knew I should have spent the last year coding.

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L1446[19:35:51] <Rallias> And my hope is those modpacks have villagersex.

L1447[19:35:53] <Rallias> Er...

L1448[19:36:00] <gigaherz> wat

L1449[19:36:01] <gigaherz> o_O

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L1451[19:36:12] <Rallias> I might have implemented villager sex.

L1452[19:36:12] <TehNut> me too i hope that too

L1453[19:36:19] <gigaherz> is that VillagersEx or VillagerSex

L1454[19:36:19] <barteks2x> When I finally had a chance to see what is going on with that half-dead Minecraft process I ended up stopping it before I could do anything because I was running outof memory

L1455[19:37:21] <LordFokas> didn't have time or the mood, my personal life took a massive hit... and when I came back the solution I spent so much time engineering was already ahead of me... FML

L1456[19:37:43] <LordFokas> how hard is it to port from 1.7 to 1.8 ??

L1457[19:37:46] <Rallias> gigaherz, VillagerSex

L1458[19:38:08] <Rallias> LordFokas, Painful.

L1459[19:38:25] <gigaherz> LordFokas: how many items/blocks do you have? ;P

L1460[19:39:00] <LordFokas> a few...

L1461[19:39:11] <gigaherz> because for each distinct subblock/blockstate/subitem, you'll need a model (instead of a texture as in 1.7)

L1462[19:39:24] <gigaherz> and although you can share the cube model or use the builtin stuff

L1463[19:39:43] <gigaherz> you still need to apply for item models for eahc individual subitem

L1464[19:39:57] <gigaherz> including blocks with "subitems" when they are in item form

L1465[19:40:12] <gigaherz> and you'll need one blockstate json file for each block too

L1466[19:40:20] <gigaherz> which can be shared for the item form

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L1468[19:40:45] <Rallias> gigaherz, No response?

L1469[19:40:46] <Rallias> :p

L1470[19:40:47] <gigaherz> so yeah it can be painful if you have many blocks and items

L1471[19:41:03] <gigaherz> Rallias: I jsut can't imagine how that is supposed to work

L1472[19:41:09] <LordFokas> that's vanilla, right?

L1473[19:41:10] <gigaherz> so I jsut discarded the thought XD

L1474[19:41:20] <Rallias> You enter the room when they are banging, they shout at you to get out.

L1475[19:41:27] <Rallias> Two villagers enter, 3 come out.

L1476[19:41:30] <Rallias> That sort of thing.

L1477[19:41:54] <gigaherz> LordFokas: forge makes it nicer by giving you an improved file format for the blockstate jsons

L1478[19:42:01] <gigaherz> alloweing items to reference blockstate jsons

L1479[19:42:09] <gigaherz> and providing a custom model loading pipeline

L1480[19:42:32] <gigaherz> which can be used to provide "smart" models that have more flexibility than static models

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L1482[19:43:08] <LordFokas> that's a replacement for ISBRH?

L1483[19:43:17] <gigaherz> yes-ish

L1484[19:43:27] <gigaherz> it's not as straightforward as ISBRH

L1485[19:43:44] <gigaherz> 1.8 added the conept of models

L1486[19:43:47] <gigaherz> after loading

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L1489[19:43:54] <gigaherz> the models get "baked" into a more efficient internal format

L1490[19:44:01] <gigaherz> represented through the IBakedModel interface

L1491[19:44:09] <LordFokas> yeah, of course, why the fuck should anything ever be simple?

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L1493[19:44:27] <gigaherz> it is simple

L1494[19:44:33] <gigaherz> if you don't need complex stuff.

L1495[19:44:48] <gigaherz> convert your static models to json/obj/b3d

L1496[19:45:04] <LordFokas> I don't have models

L1497[19:45:05] <gigaherz> and you can give a block a model with just a few lines of blockstate json

L1498[19:45:14] <LordFokas> I have massive piles of draw calls

L1499[19:45:17] <gigaherz> yeah

L1500[19:45:20] <gigaherz> those are bad

L1501[19:46:31] <LordFokas> how about TESR?

L1502[19:46:36] <gigaherz> TESR hasn't changed

L1503[19:46:55] <LordFokas> well... not so bad then

L1504[19:47:00] <gigaherz> although in 1.8.9

L1505[19:47:07] <gigaherz> they changed the way you use the tesellator

L1506[19:47:09] <LordFokas> most of my rendering code is raw OpenGL in TESR

L1507[19:47:14] <gigaherz> ewh

L1508[19:47:28] <gigaherz> and I suppose it's glBegin/glEnd, too?

L1509[19:48:24] <barteks2x> It looks like MInecraft can't quit because FileIOThread is stopped before everything is fully processed

L1510[19:48:26] <LordFokas> I think so

L1511[19:48:46] <gigaherz> yeah that's probably the most inefficient way possible

L1512[19:49:35] <thecodewarrior> I've got some code for cached ISBMs I can send you, it's pretty simple™

L1513[19:50:29] <gigaherz> you can do it, but glBegin/glEnd was obsoleted by glDrawArrays in like, the 90s

L1514[19:50:30] <gigaherz> ;P

L1515[19:50:42] <barteks2x> Exception in thread "File IO Thread" < that explains why it stopped, but hy couldn't it tell me what the exception was...

L1516[19:51:10] <thecodewarrior> LordFokas: you interested?

L1517[19:51:29] <LordFokas> sure, show me

L1518[19:51:44] <LordFokas> this is the reason I like TESR and raw OpenGL: http://puu.sh/oshqz/aedcf055dd.png

L1519[19:51:58] <LordFokas> I made a fraking stargate... programatically

L1520[19:51:58] <unascribed> you're doing all of that in a TESR???

L1521[19:51:59] <unascribed> wtf

L1522[19:52:10] <gigaherz> that can be done with just a simple .obj model?

L1523[19:52:13] <unascribed> do you even comprehend how LAGGY that is

L1524[19:52:38] <LordFokas> I'm not doing that every tick

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L1526[19:52:45] <unascribed> never never never NEVER NEVER render complex models in a TESR

L1527[19:52:48] <gigaherz> TESRs draw every frame, tick or not

L1528[19:52:50] <unascribed> ^

L1529[19:52:53] <thecodewarrior> ^

L1530[19:53:03] <gigaherz> they aren't cached at all

L1531[19:53:18] <thecodewarrior> https://github.com/thecodewarrior/Catwalks3/tree/master/src/main/java/catwalks/render https://github.com/thecodewarrior/Catwalks3/blob/master/src/main/java/catwalks/register/BlockRegister.java https://github.com/thecodewarrior/Catwalks3/blob/master/src/main/java/catwalks/proxy/ClientProxy.java#L72-L109

L1532[19:53:22] <gigaherz> and they wouldn't be anyhow, since you bypass every single cachable thing, and use direct gl

L1533[19:53:37] <LordFokas> I'm using a display list :p

L1534[19:53:52] <unascribed> slightly better

L1535[19:54:06] <unascribed> but if you were to use a model it'd be faster

L1536[19:54:10] * unascribed glances at window title

L1537[19:54:16] <unascribed> in your case I guess it'd be an ISpecialBlockRenderingHandler

L1538[19:54:50] <gigaherz> even with the crappy 1.7.10 obj loader, it would have still been nicer to use a model file, though

L1539[19:55:03] <thecodewarrior> LordFokas: Make sure you have a valid block model json for the block because otherwise it won't work.

L1540[19:55:13] <LordFokas> I don't like models

L1541[19:55:29] <LordFokas> I've always done this

L1542[19:55:37] <gigaherz> sorry to hear ;P

L1543[19:55:49] <LordFokas> mostly because back in the day barely anyone would ever teach you shit

L1544[19:55:55] <thecodewarrior> Well get over it, it isn't that bad. ( I mean it was bad, then I made it not bad )

L1545[19:56:09] <LordFokas> so I had to copycat shitty notch code

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L1547[19:56:21] <gigaherz> old minecraft hurt a lot ;P

L1548[19:56:25] <LordFokas> and come up with my own enhancements

L1549[19:56:50] <LordFokas> I used to have an ISBRH with ~800 lines

L1550[19:57:00] <LordFokas> mostly tesselation

L1551[19:57:02] <gigaherz> only? ;P

L1552[19:57:21] <LordFokas> for a single block with a single state

L1553[19:57:24] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/old-1.7.10/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/client/SBRHEnderRift.java

L1554[19:57:28] <LordFokas> back when RedPower was a thing

L1555[19:57:37] <gigaherz> I win by 140 lines ;P

L1556[19:57:44] <gigaherz> I'm not proud of that file, though

L1557[19:57:53] <gigaherz> it was promptly removed as soon as I decided to dump 1.7.10

L1558[19:58:20] * thecodewarrior passes out from coordinate overload

L1559[19:58:23] <gigaherz> that mess is a .obj file converted to tesellator calls using a little script

L1560[19:58:48] <LordFokas> that's just an hardcoded model

L1561[19:58:52] <gigaherz> I was having issues with the obj loader

L1562[19:58:52] <LordFokas> that's not how I roll

L1563[19:59:00] <LordFokas> I make it all dynamic

L1564[19:59:00] <gigaherz> so I dumped the whole thing as code

L1565[19:59:00] <gigaherz> XD

L1566[19:59:08] <gigaherz> it's static though

L1567[19:59:12] <gigaherz> it had no moving parts or anything

L1568[19:59:16] <gigaherz> why would it be dynamic ;P

L1569[19:59:47] <gigaherz> although if I had done it right, I could have reused stuff

L1570[20:00:03] <gigaherz> since the model only really had 3 major parts, and a few minot variations of those

L1571[20:00:14] <gigaherz> there's a lot of duplicate code there

L1572[20:00:17] <gigaherz> but as I said

L1573[20:00:33] <thecodewarrior> Or make a two-dimensional array and loop instead of having the same code a thousand times.

L1574[20:00:49] <gigaherz> it was a stopgap to get it working first,

L1575[20:00:54] <gigaherz> then I jsut dropped the mod

L1576[20:00:58] <gigaherz> abandoned it completely

L1577[20:01:05] <gigaherz> and later decided to pick it back up, but in 1.8

L1578[20:01:17] <gigaherz> where the ISBRH just meant nothing

L1579[20:01:30] <gigaherz> so I took the original .obj file that I already had

L1580[20:01:34] <gigaherz> split it into the parts

L1581[20:01:40] <LordFokas> Well, here goes a sorry attempt at upgrading to 1.8.9

L1582[20:01:58] <gigaherz> you may want to give this a read: https://gist.github.com/williewillus/57d7093efa80163e96e0

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L1584[20:04:37] <LordFokas> ++: Anyone can override block shapes and textures using resource packs

L1585[20:04:56] <LordFokas> that's a --- for me

L1586[20:07:26] <gigaherz> why?

L1587[20:07:48] <gigaherz> i mean I understand being "don't care about that" but considering it soemthign bad?

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L1589[20:15:42] <LordFokas> there are things I don't want people to touch

L1590[20:16:06] <gigaherz> why

L1591[20:16:09] <gigaherz> just let them touch

L1592[20:16:13] <gigaherz> if it looks bad, it's their own fault

L1593[20:16:14] <gigaherz> ;p

L1594[20:16:42] <LordFokas> well I guess what matters is that the stock version will look awesome

L1595[20:16:52] <gigaherz> exactly

L1596[20:17:04] <LordFokas> but I can already foresee the catastrophe it will be...

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L1603[21:01:30] <barteks2x> I finally found and finex the issue with dark skylight spots

L1604[21:02:04] <gigaherz> \o/

L1605[21:02:31] <gigaherz> welp, been using my own mod in a modpack

L1606[21:02:41] <gigaherz> and I realized the interaction scheme I used sucks.

L1607[21:02:52] <barteks2x> http://imgur.com/AIQiQQd

L1608[21:02:53] <gigaherz> clicking on a slot should extract 64, not 1

L1609[21:03:06] <gigaherz> and right-click should extract half a stack

L1610[21:03:13] <gigaherz> like AE and such do

L1611[21:03:19] <gigaherz> like you expect from having used chests

L1612[21:03:33] <gigaherz> instead, I replicated the way used in the creative menu

L1613[21:03:38] <gigaherz> which sucks really XD

L1614[21:04:01] <gigaherz> I'll have to think on it

L1615[21:04:06] <gigaherz> while I sleep ;P

L1616[21:04:08] <gigaherz> night

L1617[21:04:32] <gigaherz> and grats barteks2x ;P

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L1626[22:15:11] <barteks2x> What am I doing wrong... Lighting was working fine (at least serverside) and then I changed render distance... and everything breaks. Everything becomes fully lit. WTF!?

L1627[22:16:55] <barteks2x> Most likely OpacityIndex is corrupted/cleared.

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L1631[22:34:54] <vox> What has GameRegistry.registerBlock been replaced with? It's marked as deprecated.

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L1633[22:36:41] <vox> The wiki still seems to say to use that method as well, huh

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L1635[22:43:51] <kashike> vox: GameRegistry.register(x)

L1636[22:43:54] <kashike> same for items

L1637[22:44:03] <vox> Ah, thanks

L1638[22:47:11] <vox> Apparently I'm incapable of even getting the base forge template to work

L1639[22:47:12] <vox> derp

L1640[22:48:13] <vox> Forge is failing to create the proxy? what?

L1641[22:49:10] <vox> I love it, ClassNotFound exception

L1642[22:49:13] <vox> I love typos :P

L1643[22:52:03] <vox> Also, I didn't realize that setRegistryName, if called before block registration, creates a "null" block

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