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L4[19:38:59] <capitalthree> LordFokas: nah I should have been politer

L5[19:39:15] <capitalthree> LordFokas: I guess my frustration was "whoah there, if things aren't working on java 8, let's try to solve the real problem"

L6[19:39:22] <LordFokas> we good?

L7[19:39:42] <capitalthree> we good

L8[19:39:45] <LordFokas> cool

L9[19:39:50] <capitalthree> I don't hold grudges

L11[19:39:58] <capitalthree> and I know I can be a bit snippy

L13[19:40:05] <LordFokas> now let's try to be productive here

L14[19:40:38] <capitalthree> aww, I was planning to smoke a whole bunch of pot

L15[19:40:56] <LordFokas> fresh JDK 8u92. Forge 12xx refuses to boot, crashes with an iterator complaining about comodification

L16[19:41:18] <LordFokas> updates to Forge 1614 (latest 1.7.10), problem persists

L17[19:41:34] <DanYeomans> could you pastebin or screenshot the error if possible? i'm curious myself what's going on

L19[19:41:56] <LordFokas> running on JRE 7u79, no issues.

L20[19:41:57] <capitalthree> why 12xx?

L21[19:42:03] <capitalthree> oh wait

L22[19:42:09] <capitalthree> I should catch up before commenting

L23[19:42:14] <LordFokas> I was picking up my mod after not touching it for a year

L24[19:42:45] <LordFokas> DanYeomans, I posted it earlier, but here it is http://puu.sh/or3ux/d36ec46fa2.png

L25[19:43:13] <capitalthree> ok so for starters, just so we're clear on the blame game, this is clearly a bug in forge and/or forgegradle and not in jvm 8

L26[19:43:41] <capitalthree> because it's a race condition

L27[19:44:28] <LordFokas> well, yeah, I assumed java 8 was more sensitive to comodifications, like, it was picking up corner cases java 7 wasn't and MC would be "exploiting" that. Or something along those lines.

L28[19:45:10] <LordFokas> although I don't see how there'd be corner cases in race conditions, but I'm not sure how comodifications are tested either, so, there's that.

L29[19:46:14] <LordFokas> I've seen a lot of REALLY weird stuff, no matter how weird this is it's still pretty tame by my standards :p

L31[19:56:32] <DanYeomans> is there any reason that an entity wouldnt appear in another dimension until you restart the game?

L32[19:56:58] <LordFokas> also, capitalthree, that stack trace is MC code, how is that Forge's fault? Is it patching MC Launcher code? I thought it didn't need to do that since MC 1.6, given that Mojang came up with that fancy tweakable launcher system...

L34[20:00:04] <capitalthree> LordFokas: did you test if the mc launcher has this problem when *not* run from forgegradle?

L38[20:05:04] <LordFokas> I'm actually running 1.7.10 in MMC5, older Forge version (14xx or 15xx) and it runs fine on Java 8

L39[20:05:26] <capitalthree> this is why I really suspect forgegradle

L40[20:05:30] <LordFokas> that was literally the first thing I tested before attempting to downgrade

L41[20:05:50] <LordFokas> damn you're right, I tested and didn't even think of that

L43[20:06:13] <capitalthree> I'm sorry again for this whole thing though

L44[20:06:26] <LordFokas> nah, it's ok

L45[20:06:30] <capitalthree> "fuck it, I just want to try something I know works" is a valid course of action when it's someone else's bug to fix

L47[20:06:55] <capitalthree> and "why the fuck does oracle put jvm downloads behind a login wall" is a very valid complaint

L49[20:07:03] <capitalthree> just for the love of god, if anything use java 7 but don't use java 6 xD

L50[20:07:56] <TehNut> ^

L51[20:07:57] <LordFokas> in Oracle's defense, if I had something THAT shitty on the loose I wouldn't want people downloading it either

L52[20:08:01] <TehNut> As I said, lesser of two evils :P

L53[20:08:51] <MattDahEpic> forge needs to add a nbt respecting shaped and shapeless recipe

L54[20:08:52] <LordFokas> they keep it, with the login wall, exclusively for people working on legacy systems

L55[20:09:09] <LordFokas> which kinda makes sense

L56[20:09:11] <TehNut> MattDahEpic: Use the crafted event

L57[20:09:22] <TehNut> Attach your NBT after the fact

L58[20:09:42] <MattDahEpic> TehNut, i want to give a different output based on the input items

L59[20:10:13] <TehNut> The event provides the crafting grid as an IInventory

L60[20:11:03] <LordFokas> TehNut, and you programatically decide the output for that specific event, I'm guessing?

L61[20:13:07] <LordFokas> OH BOY!!! 1 year ago I stopped modding... I was in the middle of a massive refactoring. Picking this up will totally be so much fun

L65[20:14:35] <SomeGuyInATree> Refactor everything to be named after species of fish.

L66[20:14:41] <gr8pefish> MattDahEpic, example of nbt crafting for ya in case you need it

L67[20:14:43] <gr8pefish> https://github.com/gr8pefish/IronBackpacks/blob/master-1.8.9/src/main/java/gr8pefish/ironbackpacks/crafting/BackpackIncreaseTierRecipe.java

L68[20:15:31] <TehNut> Yeah writing your own IRecipe should work, too

L69[20:15:50] <MattDahEpic> gr8pefish, problem with making a new recipe type is that jei doesnt display recipes that extend the vanilla types without you adding your own handler

L70[20:16:12] <LordFokas> SomeGuyInATree, I'm refactoring the whole TE/container/GUI system

L71[20:16:16] <TehNut> It's not hard to do so

L72[20:16:31] <LordFokas> oh, and also blocks

L74[20:16:38] <TehNut> https://github.com/WayofTime/BloodMagic/tree/1.9/src/main/java/WayofTime/bloodmagic/compat/jei/orb

L75[20:16:48] <SomeGuyInATree> Your mod is now about Fish and their diversity, sorry LordFokas.

L76[20:17:10] <TehNut> Then just IModRegistry#addRecipeHandlers(yourHandlers)

L77[20:17:11] <SomeGuyInATree> GUI_SalmonFurnace.java

L78[20:17:11] <MattDahEpic> TehNut, yes it is when jei wont load as a dependency in your dev env. and yes ive gone into the jei channel and talked to them to no avail on enfixening it

L79[20:17:13] <LordFokas> no I really want to finish my machines, plz. It'll be awesome

L81[20:17:49] <LordFokas> I even came up with a way for machines to only tick and/or allocate memory on sides (client/server) where data or ticking is required

L82[20:17:57] <TehNut> Just add the API instead of the full mod then?

L83[20:18:22] <LordFokas> because I like being efficient :p

L84[20:18:30] <TehNut> Oh, mezz doesn't ship an api jar

L85[20:20:32] <LordFokas> isn't there an annotation I can use for FML to remove interfaces from classes during the class loading?

L86[20:20:46] <LordFokas> is it still a thing?

L87[20:21:04] <TehNut> @Optional

L88[20:28:28] <gr8pefish> MattDahEpic, yeah true, I forgot about that. It's really not much work at all to add one though.

L89[20:42:47] <gr8pefish> If anyone can help, I am running into a little trouble. I'm trying to put a capability on an itemStack. The AttachCapabilitiesEvent fires, attaches the capability to my item, but then does the same initialization every time that item is refreshed, it isn't saving the capability for the itemstack. Do you know if I have to save it somewhere?

L90[20:44:10] <gr8pefish> ^ code can be linked of course if needed, just ask.

L100[21:30:16] <Sollux-Captor> Hey, is it possible to use forge with Visual Studio?

L102[21:52:15] <Zaggy1024> if it is, it probably won't work well since it's not maintained by the Forge team :P

L108[22:16:31] <DanYeomans> i am not sure if you can use java with visual studio

L109[22:18:41] <Sollux-Captor> There are ways to use java with VS.

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L130[22:21:53] <Sollux-Captor> There is a java plugin for VS. I'm pretty sure there is.

L131[22:22:11] <DanYeomans> actually i wouldn't be surprised

L132[22:23:16] <Sollux-Captor> VS is probably my most favorite IDE and it is kind of a bummer that I cannot use it all that much when doing MC stuff.

L137[22:26:38] <MattDahEpic> is it better to compare NBTTagCompounds with == or .equals() ?

L138[22:29:37] <kashike> MattDahEpic: NBTUtil#areNBTEquals