OCLogs: 2015-11-30.log

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L26[01:02:59] <williewillus> I'm having a strange lan server bug, some packets that should have already been sent/received during login show up later and cause crashes when other packet types of mine are sent

L27[01:03:09] <williewillus> 1.8 and 1.8.8, and yes I've wrapped with addScheduledTask

L28[01:06:56] <williewillus> log: http://pastebin.com/nL07etkc reproduced by logging in as lan client then causing any other packet from the mod to be sent. The SyncEMCPkt that recurrently shows up should have been completely sent and received during login, so not sure what it's still hanging around

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L30[01:08:50] <williewillus> just got it to happen on the host too by just repeatedly opening one of my containers again and again 0.o

L31[01:08:52] <williewillus> wat even

L32[01:10:28] <sham1> \o

L33[01:10:53] <williewillus> the client packet queue in lan is broken i think 0.o

L34[01:11:00] <TehNut> probably

L35[01:11:07] <TehNut> There's tons of issues with LAN servers and mods

L36[01:11:13] <williewillus> i wonder why

L37[01:11:42] <sham1> So tacked on

L38[01:11:54] <williewillus> one of my clientside packethandlers that only handles packets sent 2-3 times during login is being called again and again lol

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L40[01:14:10] <williewillus> lol it seems to be sending the wrong packets... vanilla or forge bug?

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L48[01:26:30] <sham1> Java 8 got one thing right with optional, it has bind and return

L49[01:28:43] <killjoy1> Just 1?

L50[01:28:49] <killjoy1> What did it get wrong?

L51[01:28:59] <TehNut> it broke forge that one time

L52[01:29:10] <killjoy1> but with optional

L53[01:30:29] <sham1> It's just weird

L54[01:30:44] <killjoy1> Don't hate, adopt 8

L55[01:31:01] <killjoy1> or don't

L56[01:31:05] <killjoy1> I'm not your professor

L57[01:31:11] <sham1> I do

L58[01:31:15] <sham1> I like it

L59[01:31:41] <sham1> But it's not the Maybe monad I know and love damn it

L60[01:33:32] <sham1> I don't know how useful using monadic combinators in java is

L61[01:33:45] <sham1> Are*

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L67[01:46:34] <Hunterz> pls merge PR #2200

L68[01:48:06] <killjoy1> You'll have to say again when cpw is on. He's assigned to it.

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L71[01:55:14] <ThePsionic> Hmm, I can't connect to Freenode

L72[01:55:44] <xaero> ThePsionic: it's been having DDoS issues the past few days

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L74[01:55:51] <ThePsionic> Ah

L75[01:56:12] <ThePsionic> Yeah I can't access https://webchat.freenode.net either

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L80[01:58:41] <Cazzar> Apparently Freenode stops accepting connections every so often ThePsionic as well

L81[01:58:50] <ThePsionic> Fun times

L82[01:59:31] <Cazzar> My ZNC has a stable connection to it right now though :P\

L83[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20151130 mappings to Forge Maven.

L84[02:00:06] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20151130-1.8.8.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20151130" in build.gradle).

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L86[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L89[02:02:10] <ThePsionic> I don't have a bouncer

L90[02:02:12] <ThePsionic> rip in pieces

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L92[02:03:14] <ThePsionic> Also

L93[02:03:21] <ThePsionic> Can't run GTA5 on my laptop </3

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L133[03:18:07] <Wuppy> ThePsionic, I can run everything on my desktop though \o/

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L135[03:33:33] <ThePsionic> So can I

L136[03:33:40] <ThePsionic> but I don't have my laptop at school now do I

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L138[03:39:21] <Rallias> ThePsionic, I remember playing Elder Scrolls back in high school :P

L139[03:39:59] <Wuppy> ugh I hate the Netherlands

L140[03:40:10] <Wuppy> it'll rain non stop all day today :c

L141[03:40:32] <Wuppy> and I have to go outside at some point to buy some food

L142[03:41:36] <fry> heh, it's snowing non-stop here :P

L143[03:41:52] <Wuppy> well yeah, russia

L144[03:42:07] <fry> the north :P

L145[03:42:30] <Wuppy> I thought you lived in moscow?

L146[03:43:22] <fry> it's in the north, kinda :P

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L148[03:44:13] <Wuppy> but yeah, if you live basically on the north pole, snow shouldn't be much of a surprise :P

L149[03:46:16] <fry> it's the proximity from the ocean that matters too :P

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L155[04:14:15] <ThePsionic> Rallias: whoops I meant desktop

L156[04:14:22] <ThePsionic> I always have my laptop with me :P

L157[04:14:58] <ThePsionic> Also I spent way too much money on GTA5 money already

L158[04:15:11] <ThePsionic> Does mean I can buy a super sweet car when I get home though

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L163[04:31:18] <Wuppy> ThePsionic, are you also getting Just Cause 3?

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L165[04:31:54] <ThePsionic> Nah

L166[04:32:09] <Wuppy> o____0

L167[04:32:22] <Wuppy> I preordered it yesterday after seeing the review copies, can't wait for tomorrow

L168[04:32:44] <ThePsionic> I've never been a fan of the Just Cause series

L169[04:33:04] <Wuppy> I loved 2 (too young for 1) and I'm sure I'll love 3

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L171[04:33:47] <Wuppy> oh also, I'm making one hell of a burger tonight :o

L172[04:33:58] <Wuppy> the burger contains 3 types of meat and there'll be a fourth on the burger

L173[04:35:38] <ThePsionic> That's impressive

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L196[05:14:41] <FallingD> .

L197[05:14:59] <ThePsionic> !

L198[05:15:29] <Wuppy> ?

L199[05:15:57] <FallingD> i am trying to make a 1.7.10 version of my 1.8 mod, however my mod uses the recently updated version of the GuiScrollingList from FML. so i was wondering if these changes will be synced to 1.7.10?

L200[05:17:03] <ThePsionic> Don't count on it

L201[05:17:09] <FallingD> :/

L202[05:17:16] <ThePsionic> I doubt a lot will happen to 1.7.10 anymore now that 1.8.8 is out

L203[05:17:55] <Wuppy> is there an idea for a release on 1.9?

L204[05:17:56] <FallingD> i get that, but so many users still want/use 1.7.10

L205[05:18:00] <Wuppy> as in, when MC will update

L206[05:18:06] <Wuppy> haven't really been following the news

L207[05:18:12] <FallingD> not before the end of this year

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L209[05:19:03] <ThePsionic> FallingD: 1.7.10 is one and a half years old, you need to know when to let go tbh

L210[05:19:32] <FallingD> that´s difficult to do when users seem to prefer it

L211[05:19:42] <fry> they don't prefer 1.7

L212[05:19:55] <fry> they prefer to play whatever mods are still not on 1.8

L213[05:20:01] <ThePsionic> ^

L214[05:20:08] <FallingD> that´s true i guess

L215[05:20:27] <ThePsionic> You're in an endless loop here; users want mods for the version there's a lot of mods for and modders want to mod for the version a lot of users want to play

L216[05:20:27] <FallingD> but that´s why i first made the 1.8 version before backporting

L217[05:20:40] <jk-5> How/where do i register WorldSavedData to be saved/loaded in 1.8

L218[05:20:43] <ThePsionic> Thus you stay stuck on 1.7.10

L219[05:21:05] <FallingD> but why wasn´t this a problem for 1.6 or 1.7.2 though :/

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L221[05:21:16] <ThePsionic> Currently my mod supports both 1.8 and 1.8.8 but I'm planning on just supporting 1.8.8 soon

L222[05:21:54] <ThePsionic> FallingD: Because 1.8 also brought along a lot of changes code-wise that modders don't want to commit to

L223[05:22:01] <fry> FallingD: it was, it was for all the previous versions - each version has mods that don't update :P

L224[05:22:07] <ThePsionic> "Everything was simpler in 1.7.10" - people who are hopelessly behind

L225[05:22:28] <ThePsionic> The JSON models didn't really help though I think fry :P

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L227[05:26:55] <sham1> Eugh

L228[05:27:35] <sham1> An exam where you have to prove stuff in math, eugh

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L230[05:28:41] <sham1> Can't prove for shit

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L252[05:41:17] <LexManos> <FallingD> but why wasn´t this a problem for 1.6 or 1.7.2 though :/

L253[05:41:21] <LexManos> .... I was -.-

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L255[05:43:04] <sham1> You propably meant "it was"

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L257[05:43:45] <LexManos> Probably, im tired

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L259[05:48:53] <ThePsionic> Kobata: beautiful website

L260[05:49:45] <ThePsionic> At least it supports SSL :P

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L266[05:57:40] <JamEngulfer221> I'm having some strange problems. None of my assets are being picked up by the mod when I run it

L267[05:58:20] <JamEngulfer221> They're there in the .jar file when I build the mod, but in-game none of them are there

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L271[06:02:52] <Ivorius> JamEngulfer221: Using IDEA?

L272[06:02:59] <JamEngulfer221> Eclipse

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L274[06:03:17] <Ivorius> Either your project is set up wrong

L275[06:03:26] <Ivorius> Or you're just using the wrong ResourceLocations

L276[06:04:24] <JamEngulfer221> Yeah, figures

L277[06:04:43] <JamEngulfer221> Has anyone got a github repo for a 1.8 mod that has all of the stuff set up properly?

L278[06:04:59] <JamEngulfer221> I'm pretty sure it's that my folder paths are wrong

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L280[06:05:49] <Ivorius> Sure https://github.com/Ivorforce/PandorasBox/tree/master/src/main

L281[06:09:35] <JamEngulfer221> Thanks! A bunch of my folders were in the wrong places. Not 100% sure it'll fix my problems, but I'll see

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L283[06:13:50] <JamEngulfer221> Gah. That didn't fix my problems

L284[06:14:11] <ThePsionic> Do you have a repo?

L285[06:14:37] <JamEngulfer221> Nah. Haven't got that far yet

L286[06:15:06] <ThePsionic> ._.

L287[06:15:13] <sham1> :D

L288[06:15:24] <ThePsionic> It's never too early for a repo

L289[06:15:29] <JamEngulfer221> True

L290[06:15:45] <JamEngulfer221> I was focussing on getting it working before I even considered source control

L291[06:16:06] <ThePsionic> Why not make a repo now? :D

L292[06:16:27] <JamEngulfer221> I'm on it atm. I'll make a branch of my old one or something

L293[06:17:12] <JamEngulfer221> Step 1, figure out how to make a branch

L294[06:18:52] <ThePsionic> Locally or on GitHub

L295[06:20:13] <JamEngulfer221> Both I guess

L296[06:20:36] <ThePsionic> Locally is just git branch <name> while on master

L297[06:20:48] <ThePsionic> GitHub you need to click "branches" and then make anew one

L298[06:20:51] <ThePsionic> anyway brb

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L300[06:20:55] <Ivorius> Not really

L301[06:21:01] <Ivorius> You can just push a local brunch upwards

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L303[06:21:44] <Ivorius> I recommend getting a git client or using Eclipse's integration

L304[06:21:59] <JamEngulfer221> Yeah, I've got the official git client

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L306[06:23:39] <sham1> so you have the CMD client

L307[06:23:39] <JamEngulfer221> Well, I've got to go do stuff so I'm giving up for now

L308[06:23:43] <sham1> That's my boy

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L313[06:36:21] <masa> :D

L314[06:36:54] <masa> does this exist as an anti-asian meme? "Bleh I'm giving up" "That's my boy"

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L317[06:52:25] <OrionOnline> What is de replacement for ForgeDirection in 1.8?

L318[06:52:32] <Ivorius> EnumFacing

L319[07:02:54] <OrionOnline> The replacement for IIcon is TextureAtlasSprite correct?

L320[07:05:03] <fry> yup

L321[07:08:22] <OrionOnline> GOd damn

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L323[07:08:37] <OrionOnline> There is so much i work i have to do to get it ported

L324[07:08:56] <sham1> That's why you want to usually start work as fast as possible

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L326[07:09:45] <OrionOnline> The problem is that i had to first get a proper release out, working everything you know :D

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L330[07:21:08] <sham1> YAY, IUpdatePlayerListBox is renamed

L331[07:24:44] <masa> christmas came early this year? :p

L332[07:25:06] <sham1> basically

L333[07:25:13] <sham1> No more stupid name for the interface

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L336[07:26:09] <ThePsionic> Wuppy: Do you use Windows 10?

L337[07:26:16] <Wuppy> not yet, why?

L338[07:26:23] <sham1> spyware 10*

L339[07:26:37] <ThePsionic> pls

L340[07:27:02] <ThePsionic> Wuppy: I was wondering because when I connect to the train network using my laptop it automatically opens my browser

L341[07:27:13] <ThePsionic> And I want to figure out how to have it stop doing that

L342[07:27:16] <Wuppy> does that on 8 as well

L343[07:27:22] <ThePsionic> O

L344[07:27:31] <sham1> 0/10, not free

L345[07:27:46] <ThePsionic> It's really annoying because on Chrome I have set to return to my last session when opening

L346[07:27:50] <Wuppy> ThePsionic, probably change your network settings to not automatically connect to open networks

L347[07:28:00] <Wuppy> because as soon as you connect to the train network, that happens

L348[07:28:10] <ThePsionic> Wuppy: It's not on just automatic connect, but also on manual connect

L349[07:28:22] <Wuppy> I know, but you have to log in through your browser

L350[07:28:26] <ThePsionic> I know

L351[07:28:47] <ThePsionic> But I don't want it to open Chrome because then it replaces all my open tabs with the WiFi login screen

L352[07:28:58] <Wuppy> no clue

L353[07:30:01] <ThePsionic> Google also doesn't know the answer, which is even more frustrating

L354[07:30:07] <fry> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_access_method

L355[07:30:19] <sham1> Google does not know everything

L356[07:31:40] <ThePsionic> Sadly

L357[07:33:06] <fry> seriously: http://www.telecomabc.com/u/uam.html

L358[07:33:18] <fry> improve your google-fu :P

L359[07:33:28] <ThePsionic> fry: I know what it *is*

L360[07:33:47] <ThePsionic> I just want Windows 10 to not automatically open my browser when I access a network that uses it

L361[07:34:00] <ThePsionic> And Google doesn't know *that*

L362[07:35:35] <OrionOnline> Why does my JavaDoc keep failing, when it succesfully runs on my own PC.....

L363[07:35:45] <ThePsionic> RIP OrionOnline

L364[07:36:02] <OrionOnline> YEAH and i hate it :D

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L366[07:37:25] <sham1> Someone remind me, is 20 ticks a second?

L367[07:37:29] <ThePsionic> yes sham1

L368[07:37:37] <fry> ThePsionic: https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsdesktop/en-US/11370868-7f26-48aa-bfeb-acb9ee7b41ed/windows-8-supports-captive-portal-networks-by-immediately-launching-the-web-browser-if-a-captive?forum=windowsgeneraldevelopmentissues

L369[07:37:43] <bspkrs> game ticks*

L370[07:37:54] <fry> improve your google-fu :P

L371[07:37:56] <ThePsionic> fry: what are you, a magician?

L372[07:38:06] <sham1> yeah game ticks

L373[07:38:13] <sham1> the same ones that tile entities experience

L374[07:38:29] <fry> I'm a sysadmin :P

L375[07:38:36] <ThePsionic> close enough

L376[07:38:54] <sham1> You're also a S_I_S sometimes

L377[07:39:13] <fry> that's what I do there :P

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L379[07:39:56] <OrionOnline> A found the reason for the JavDoc not compiling... Some weird symbol...

L380[07:40:11] <sham1> Never heard of compiling javadocs

L381[07:40:15] <sham1> But what does it say

L382[07:40:28] <ThePsionic> I did just find out how to re-enable hibernation on windows 10, which is excellent

L383[07:40:37] <ThePsionic> OrionOnline: inb4 snowman

L384[07:40:39] <williewillus> anyone had any problem with LAN in 1.8+? have this weird issue where the client packet handler for one packet type keeps getting called again and again even though other types of packets are sending from the server

L385[07:40:59] <williewillus> interestingly, that one packet type is the one with discriminator 0

L386[07:41:10] <OrionOnline> ThePsionic, what?

L387[07:41:24] <ThePsionic> OrionOnline: You don't know about the snowmen?

L388[07:41:35] <OrionOnline> No?

L389[07:42:13] <ThePsionic> I believe the story is that when Mojang obfuscates their code they use snowmen to make it easier for MCP to determine what is what

L390[07:42:21] <ThePsionic> fry: back me up here you know this better than me

L391[07:43:05] <fry> something like that, yes

L392[07:43:11] <OrionOnline> Ahh oke

L393[07:45:02] <ThePsionic> Hmm, I don't have HotspotAuthentication in my registry

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L396[07:50:37] <ThePsionic> Okay I think I just turned it off in the group policy

L397[07:50:41] <ThePsionic> Ima restart to check

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L400[07:53:24] <ThePsionic> success!

L401[07:53:36] <fry> good old windows reboot :P

L402[07:53:59] <ThePsionic> hue

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L414[08:14:17] <sham1> huehuehue

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L425[08:44:51] <gigaherz> is espernet more stable now? had to leave it disconnected when I went to sleep because it was netsplitting constantly

L426[08:45:14] <sham1> Still not as bad as DDOSNet AKA FreeNode

L427[08:45:40] <gigaherz> hm?

L428[08:45:55] <gigaherz> I had some issues on thursday but it has been sortof ok after that

L429[08:45:55] <sham1> Freenode is being DDOS'd and it is so unstable

L430[08:45:59] <sham1> It's not even funny

L431[08:46:25] <gigaherz> I guess it hasn't hit #reactos so hard as other parts of freenode

L432[08:46:35] <sham1> certain servers

L433[08:46:47] <gigaherz> yeah I meant that as "the servers people on #reactos use"

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L436[08:51:00] <kashike> sham1: SplitNet and splitnode

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L438[08:53:39] <sham1> Yess

L439[08:53:42] <sham1> They both Split

L440[08:53:49] <sham1> But lucky that IRCNet does not

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L455[09:36:20] <OrionOnline> Is there an Equivalent if the IIconRegister in 1.8?

L456[09:37:17] <sham1> TO load a TextureAtlasSprite?

L457[09:37:49] <fry> what are you loading it for/from? :P

L458[09:37:57] <gigaherz> you can load new sprites into the atlas using the stitch event ;P

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L461[09:40:20] <OrionOnline> I used the IIconRegister before to trick Items into giving me there IIcon location so i could get the Average Color

L462[09:40:42] <OrionOnline> It grabbed the file location loaded it in and used a BufferedStream to read the binary data

L463[09:41:21] <OrionOnline> Then if the pixels alpha value was above a certain value it would count that pixek to the average R, G, B values

L464[09:41:33] <OrionOnline> Yet i have no clue how to get that part working now

L465[09:41:36] <fry> get the model, use the particle texture

L466[09:42:36] <sham1> particle texture for an item!?

L467[09:42:37] <sham1> Wat

L468[09:42:39] <OrionOnline> But would that not only work for Blocks, as items donnot have a Particle?

L469[09:42:47] <OrionOnline> sham1, yeah whut?

L470[09:42:55] <gigaherz> all models have a particle

L471[09:42:58] <fry> ^

L472[09:43:02] <sham1> But why

L473[09:43:05] <OrionOnline> Seriously?

L474[09:43:09] <OrionOnline> That is awesome

L475[09:43:11] <fry> becasue that method is in the interface :P

L476[09:43:15] <OrionOnline> LOL

L477[09:43:25] <fry> not sure if it returns the correct values for all items though

L478[09:43:31] <fry> let's see :P

L479[09:44:04] <OrionOnline> It is used for automatical converison of ingots into their respected Armory Components (like liquids, armor parts and stuff)

L480[09:44:22] <OrionOnline> If the conversion fails the user can set a RGB value in the config himself

L481[09:44:31] <OrionOnline> So it is not that big of a deal

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L483[09:44:40] <fry> yup, they should have correct particle

L484[09:44:50] <OrionOnline> fry which interface declares that function to get the partical?

L485[09:44:57] <fry> IBakedModel

L486[09:45:43] <OrionOnline> IBakedModel.getTexture?

L487[09:46:02] <gigaherz> IIRC, the particle of an item is used when the item breaks from damage?

L488[09:46:17] <gigaherz> yes OrionOnline

L489[09:46:28] <OrionOnline> Okey cool

L490[09:46:37] <fry> Minecraft.getMinecraft().getItemModelMesher().getRenderItem().getItemModelMesher().getItemModel(stack).getParticleTexture()

L491[09:46:45] <OrionOnline> So just grab the model from the Item, grab the TextureAtlasSprite

L492[09:46:56] <fry> or getTexture, if you're on the older mappings :P

L493[09:47:32] <OrionOnline> Time to update forge then :D

L494[09:47:54] <fry> then call getFrameTextureData :P

L495[09:48:22] <OrionOnline> Oh wow i donnot need to load it myself

L496[09:48:29] <sham1> See?

L497[09:48:33] <OrionOnline> That is awesome and makes my work a lot easier

L498[09:48:33] <sham1> This is why 1.8 is awesome

L499[09:48:40] <OrionOnline> Removes like 7 classes or so

L500[09:48:45] <gigaherz> XD

L501[09:48:46] <fry> heh

L502[09:48:53] <OrionOnline> Which mappings do i need to get that to work?

L503[09:49:02] <gigaherz> ?

L504[09:49:15] <gigaherz> !!latest

L505[09:49:15] <MCPBot_Reborn> === Latest Mappings ===

L506[09:49:16] <MCPBot_Reborn> MC Version Forge Gradle Channel

L507[09:49:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.8.8 snapshot_20151130

L508[09:49:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.8 snapshot_20151128

L509[09:49:18] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.8 stable_18

L510[09:49:19] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.7.10 snapshot_20140925

L511[09:49:20] <MCPBot_Reborn> 1.7.10 stable_12

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L513[09:49:43] <gigaherz> stable_18 are the last mappings for 1.8

L514[09:49:53] <gigaherz> they are thesame as the 28 snapshot

L515[09:49:58] <sham1> what about snapshot_20151128

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L517[09:50:01] <sham1> ah

L518[09:50:03] <OrionOnline> okey

L519[09:50:05] <gigaherz> so any development on 1.8 from now on can just use stable_18

L520[09:50:06] <fry> it's getParticleTexture in 1.8.8

L521[09:50:23] <sham1> Or move into 1.8.8 and beat TiC to the punch

L522[09:50:28] <OrionOnline> So for 1.8 it is getTexture()?

L523[09:50:31] <fry> yup

L524[09:50:43] <OrionOnline> I will move to 1.8.8

L525[09:50:53] <fry> if you're porting a big mod 1.8.8 probably makes more sense to port to :P

L526[09:50:57] <OrionOnline> Seems to be the same amount of work, just a lot of different names

L527[09:51:04] <OrionOnline> it is pretty big

L528[09:51:19] <OrionOnline> altough i am currently at the 1/3 of the targeted functions

L529[09:51:23] <sham1> propably makes getting into 1.9 easier

L530[09:51:29] <fry> 1.8.8 adds generics, so your code will simplify :P

L531[09:51:34] <OrionOnline> Cool

L532[09:51:34] <sham1> Because they propably will have the same names as with 1.8.8

L533[09:51:43] <Ordinastie> can someone point me to the code in 1.7.10 that responsible for removing items in the crafting grid when the output is picked up ? I can't find it :x

L534[09:51:45] <fry> actual changes between 1.8 and 1.8.8 are small

L535[09:51:48] <sham1> 1.8.8 generics made scala not like me

L536[09:51:58] <sham1> So I went back to my pet language

L537[09:52:07] <OrionOnline> Which forge version should i use to develop 1.8.8

L538[09:52:13] <gigaherz> latest

L539[09:52:17] <gigaherz> it's still in beta

L540[09:52:21] <sham1> ye

L541[09:52:25] <OrionOnline> Cause looking at the Files.minecraftforge.net i could not find any reference to it

L542[09:52:25] <gigaherz> so you want latest

L543[09:52:30] <gigaherz> at least until there's a recommended

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L545[09:52:34] <sham1> It is under 1.8

L546[09:52:36] <gigaherz> OrionOnline: hover over 1.8

L547[09:52:37] <fry> what you see on files is 1.8.8 :P

L548[09:52:40] <gigaherz> and it will show the popup menu

L549[09:52:43] <OrionOnline> Ah :P

L550[09:52:44] <gigaherz> with 1.8.8

L551[09:52:50] <OrionOnline> That is nicely hidden there :D

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L553[09:52:54] <fry> ah, now it defaults to 1.8

L554[09:52:57] <sham1> well it is a beta

L555[09:53:01] <gigaherz> no fry, lex made it show the newest with a recommended

L556[09:53:02] <fry> but yes, 1.8.8 is inside 1.8 :P

L557[09:53:11] <sham1> so of course it is hidden

L558[09:54:04] <Ordinastie> ok, finally found it :x

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L560[09:55:07] <gigaherz> OrionOnline: it's not hidden, it's like, right there in the menu! ;P

L561[09:55:18] <OrionOnline> Yeah

L562[09:55:24] <OrionOnline> But i never hover over that thing :P

L563[09:55:27] <sham1> but it really is not that obvious to be fair

L564[09:55:28] <OrionOnline> I hardly ever come there

L565[09:55:35] <gigaherz> sham1: yeah

L566[09:55:39] <gigaherz> the top-level menu should be

L567[09:55:41] <gigaherz> 1.8.x

L568[09:55:48] <sham1> kinda like 1.7.x

L569[09:55:57] <gigaherz> 1.8.x | 1.7.x | 1.6.x |...

L570[09:56:17] <OrionOnline> Yeah

L571[09:56:24] <OrionOnline> And can you guys get your versioning straight

L572[09:56:35] <OrionOnline> One version of forge is: mcversion-version

L573[09:56:42] <gigaherz> that's on purpose

L574[09:56:47] <OrionOnline> And a different one is again: mcversion-forgeversion-mcversion

L575[09:56:50] <gigaherz> it's mcversion-forgeversion-BRANCHNAME

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L577[09:56:59] <OrionOnline> Ah oke

L578[09:57:06] <gigaherz> it just so happens that the branch is named after a mc version too

L579[09:57:08] <ThePsionic> If it's not master it has the name of the branch ye :P

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L581[09:57:10] <OrionOnline> Then putting that on the webpage would have been nice

L582[09:57:11] <gigaherz> when 1.8.8 becomes master

L583[09:57:14] <gigaherz> then it will be

L584[09:57:17] <gigaherz> 1.8.8-forgeversion

L585[09:57:22] <OrionOnline> Get that

L586[09:57:26] <gigaherz> and 1.8 fixes will be 1.8-forge-1.8

L587[09:57:38] <OrionOnline> But putting that upthere on the webpage would not havebeen a bad idea

L588[09:58:02] <OrionOnline> I am interested to see how the decompiling is going to be

L589[09:58:08] <OrionOnline> Heard people had RAM issues

L590[09:58:18] <sham1> yeah

L591[09:58:34] <sham1> the build with FG2.1 is kinda like that ATM

L592[09:58:36] <OrionOnline> 32 GB should be enough though right?

L593[09:58:43] <sham1> yes

L594[09:58:46] <sham1> I hope

L595[09:59:20] <OrionOnline> Hmm it uses more of my CPU then my RAM

L596[09:59:37] <gigaherz> OrionOnline: I ran gradle from a cmd window

L597[09:59:38] <OrionOnline> Like a total 1GB but 40% CPU

L598[09:59:41] <gigaherz> didn't take more than 3gb

L599[09:59:46] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, i am doing that too

L600[10:00:13] <gigaherz> but someone here had it crashing even with 10gb

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L602[10:00:16] <sham1> Well it propably allocates more memory because you have more

L603[10:00:17] <gigaherz> so not sure what the exact issue is

L604[10:00:28] <sham1> #BlameAbrar

L605[10:00:28] <OrionOnline> Hmm maybe hardware related?

L606[10:00:35] <OrionOnline> sham1, that is good idea :D

L607[10:00:39] <gigaherz> or maybe depends on the version of jvm

L608[10:00:47] <OrionOnline> Yeah

L609[10:00:56] <OrionOnline> Decompile finished

L610[10:01:05] <OrionOnline> Did not use more then 2Gb

L611[10:01:06] <gigaherz> I use jdk1.8.0_51

L612[10:01:08] <gigaherz> to run gradle

L613[10:01:11] <gigaherz> x64

L614[10:01:35] <gigaherz> I do however have jre 66

L615[10:01:36] <sham1> Hmm, thanks for reminding me

L616[10:01:36] <OrionOnline> jdk1.7_0_79

L617[10:01:38] <OrionOnline> x64

L618[10:01:44] <sham1> I need to download a new JDK

L619[10:01:46] <OrionOnline> and same jre

L620[10:01:53] <gigaherz> now i'm scared to upgrade

L621[10:01:53] <sham1> Because the latest for me is 45

L622[10:02:04] <gigaherz> in case the latest jdk has more issues ;P

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L624[10:02:27] <sham1> Why can't JDKs be updated like JREs

L625[10:02:32] <sham1> Where you get a popup and you update

L626[10:03:24] <sham1> Must be one of those "programmers are smart enough to come here every once in a while to check for updates"

L627[10:05:08] <gigaherz> basically

L628[10:05:13] <gigaherz> when you see the jre popup?

L629[10:05:20] <gigaherz> that means it's time to update your jdk

L630[10:05:21] <gigaherz> ;P

L631[10:05:27] <gigaherz> also

L632[10:05:32] <gigaherz> it's often common while coding

L633[10:05:40] <gigaherz> to stick to one version of the tools

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L635[10:05:43] <gigaherz> until the project is finished

L636[10:05:54] <sham1> I need that bleeding edge

L637[10:05:58] <gigaherz> because upgrading can introduce new issues that didn't happen with the older version

L638[10:06:05] <OrionOnline> Lol it actually failed :D

L639[10:06:16] <gigaherz> ?

L640[10:06:40] <OrionOnline> https://gist.github.com/OrionDevelopment/d0bb622b45221511d267

L641[10:06:52] <OrionOnline> Do i need the ForgeGradle 2.1 update?

L642[10:06:57] <gigaherz> you need to use 2.1-snapshot

L643[10:07:18] <OrionOnline> retry then

L644[10:07:28] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/build.gradle#L1,L14

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L646[10:10:15] <MalkContent> are there any asteroids in planet systems?

L647[10:11:13] <OrionOnline> Now it is saying MISSING REPLACEMENTDATA FOR MAPPING_MCVERSION

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L650[10:18:56] <gigaherz> OrionOnline: what mappings are you using?

L651[10:19:04] <OrionOnline> mappings = "snapshot_20151129"

L652[10:19:04] <gigaherz> https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/bd92ee2ddad46ae2fb87

L653[10:19:19] <gigaherz> with 1.8.8 forge?

L654[10:19:23] <gigaherz> and fg2.1?

L655[10:19:24] <OrionOnline> Yes

L656[10:19:26] <OrionOnline> and yes

L657[10:19:32] <gigaherz> wtf?

L658[10:19:33] <OrionOnline> https://gist.github.com/OrionDevelopment/d0bb622b45221511d267

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L660[10:21:02] <OrionOnline> I have never seen anything like it

L661[10:21:12] <gigaherz> let me try locally...

L662[10:22:55] <OrionOnline> even cleanCache fails.....

L663[10:23:19] <gigaherz> hmm

L664[10:23:24] <gigaherz> you were upgrading from 1.7 right?

L665[10:23:30] <gigaherz> you may need the new gradle wrapper

L666[10:23:37] <OrionOnline> yes

L667[10:23:44] <gigaherz> although I don't think that's the issue here

L668[10:23:57] <gigaherz> but extractingthe gradlew and gradle folder from the mdk zip wouldn't hurt

L669[10:24:25] <OrionOnline> doing that now

L670[10:24:32] <OrionOnline> it is updating to gradle 2.7

L671[10:24:43] <OrionOnline> Nope

L672[10:24:50] <OrionOnline> Same exception

L673[10:24:59] <gigaherz> then you'll need the #forgegradle people

L674[10:25:02] <gigaherz> I can't help ;P

L675[10:25:16] <gigaherz> I have reached the limit of my knowledge

L676[10:25:48] <OrionOnline> No problem

L677[10:26:02] <OrionOnline> Saidly nobody is reacting

L678[10:26:15] <OrionOnline> So i have to wait until i get back from my test exam

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L699[11:21:29] <jk-5> How can i override/substitute a block? I think GameData.addSubstitutionAlias should be it, but the javadoc is misleading

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L704[11:27:18] <MattDahEpic> direwolf's going to be doing 1.8 mod spotlights... my stuff is 1.8...

L705[11:30:54] <sham1> a high change he will do yours

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L708[11:32:34] <MattDahEpic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5N7d8mcQk4

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L712[11:35:57] <sham1> "frozen wasteland

L713[11:36:05] <sham1> I'd like to see that

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L715[11:38:18] <sham1> Well that was interesting

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L728[12:03:40] <williewillus> hm I still can't figure out why the LAN packet mixup is happening

L729[12:05:28] <diesieben07> in MC?

L730[12:05:39] <diesieben07> or what are you talking about?

L731[12:06:05] <williewillus> yes

L732[12:06:40] <diesieben07> so which packets are mixing?

L733[12:06:53] <williewillus> it's really strange, in 1.8+ LAN whenever a client (non-host) causes a packet from my mod to be sent to it, it processes it as some other type of packet, which obviously crashes

L734[12:07:24] <diesieben07> you are makign sure your stuff is on the main thread?

L735[12:07:43] <williewillus> yeah doing the addScheduledTask thing

L736[12:07:51] <williewillus> but it's so weird the entirely wrong packethandler is being called

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L738[12:08:00] <diesieben07> that is weird. you should show your code :D

L739[12:09:14] <williewillus> well, this essentially. https://github.com/sinkillerj/ProjectE/tree/MC18/src/main/java/moze_intel/projecte/network. Whenever the lan client receives any client bound packet it processes as the SyncEmcPKT (which is only sent on login to sync emc values).

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L741[12:11:32] <diesieben07> you do know that you don't need to split packets manually, right? :D

L742[12:12:02] <williewillus> ? :p

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L744[12:12:26] <diesieben07> uhh

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L746[12:12:29] <diesieben07> i misunderstood

L747[12:12:30] <diesieben07> nvm

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L749[12:13:14] <diesieben07> this only happens for server->client packets?

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L751[12:15:15] <williewillus> haven't tested the other way, lemme see

L752[12:15:45] <williewillus> appears to be fine for c->s

L753[12:16:48] <diesieben07> have you tested it with different packets? does it happen with all?

L754[12:16:54] <williewillus> lol yeah it's all sorts of errors, one of my particle packets just ran the client out of memory by tryihng to create a huge array since it processed it with the wrong handler

L755[12:17:16] <diesieben07> wahhhh

L756[12:17:34] <diesieben07> is this 1.8.8? did it happen on 1.8? :D

L757[12:17:39] <sham1> What sound is that diesieb

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L759[12:18:55] <diesieben07> this sound: http://i.imgur.com/3hWHVqg.png

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L761[12:19:19] <williewillus> the report came in on 1.8 but I'm testing it on 1.8.8

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L763[12:19:33] <williewillus> and I just crashed the host/server wat

L764[12:19:41] <diesieben07> that is very very strange

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L767[12:20:16] <williewillus> might try to get a test mod written and bug report it, esp if it doesnt happen in 1.7

L768[12:20:41] <diesieben07> it would be highly unlikely that the SimpleIMpl is broken like that in 1.8

L769[12:20:49] <diesieben07> and you're the first to discover it

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L771[12:21:01] <williewillus> well lan appears to always be an edge case :p

L772[12:21:06] <williewillus> i don't know why

L773[12:21:32] <diesieben07> oh it only happens on lan?

L774[12:21:36] <diesieben07> not on a dedi server?

L775[12:21:49] <williewillus> no, dedicated server is fine

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L777[12:21:57] <diesieben07> that is even stranger

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L782[12:22:31] <diesieben07> gah i'm gonna wear out my ctrl, F9, F3 and S keys

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L784[12:23:04] <williewillus> lan always seems to be a special case though (vanilla bugs about host skins, etc.), which makes no sense unless mojang makes lots of integratedserver assumptions

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L786[12:24:08] <williewillus> it is strange looking at the vanilla bugtracker and no longer seeing the boat desync ticket at the top of most voted lol

L787[12:24:14] <williewillus> had to double check for a moment

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L802[12:37:05] <MattDahEpic> whats the easiest way to play a sound at a player

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L804[12:37:38] <sham1> Send a paket and play it

L805[12:37:39] <diesieben07> server or clientside?

L806[12:38:06] <MattDahEpic> im doing it from Item.onItemUseFinish

L807[12:38:20] <sham1> again, client- or serverside

L808[12:38:30] <sham1> any world.isRemotes?

L809[12:39:23] <MattDahEpic> its on the server

L810[12:39:25] <diesieben07> MattDahEpic, call player.playSound on both sides, no isRemote check

L811[12:40:01] <diesieben07> if you must do it from the server, use world.playSoundAtEntity

L812[12:43:29] <MattDahEpic> well i have to call it from the server since im moving the player

L813[12:43:52] <diesieben07> well, but onItemUseFinish is called on both sides

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L816[12:57:00] <MattDahEpic> oh my god im laughing so much, i set the item cancel sound to random.anvil_break and its so funny

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L819[13:00:25] <MattDahEpic> for some reason im getting spam of: There is an attempt to load a chunk (x,y) in di >mension -1 that is already being loaded. This will cause weird chunk breakages. when i use my teleport item

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L825[13:14:57] <sham1> Diesieb, help

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L827[13:15:19] <sham1> I started a new mod in Java and obviously because of that I want to try the MethodHandle

L828[13:15:57] <diesieben07> ok

L829[13:15:58] <sham1> But I cannot put it into a static final field as a return type of the method I want to reflect upon is an inner class I do not have access to

L830[13:16:40] <diesieben07> once you have the methodHandle (using MethodHandles.Lookup#unreflect most likely) do .asType() with return type object

L831[13:17:40] <sham1> I can get the methodhandle itself just fine

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L833[13:17:57] <sham1> The problem is that, of course, I cannot assign to a final variable

L834[13:18:02] <diesieben07> why nto?

L835[13:18:08] <diesieben07> you can, once

L836[13:18:13] <diesieben07> in a static { } block

L837[13:18:48] <sham1> Well now it is saying that the field might not be initialized even though I have my methodhandle getting code inside a static block

L838[13:19:08] <diesieben07> well you most likely have a try catch

L839[13:19:18] <diesieben07> you must make sure that the catch either also assigns the field or throws

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L841[13:20:06] <sham1> I will try to re-arrange some stuff, lets see if this works

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L843[13:22:45] <sham1> Well throw Throwable.propagate(e) did the trick

L844[13:22:48] <sham1> That was odd

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L846[13:23:02] <diesieben07> not really odd :D

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L848[13:23:28] <diesieben07> the catch part is a possible path for the code to go, so if the field is final, the compiler must assure that it is also assigned there

L849[13:23:47] <sham1> Didn't know that

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L851[13:23:52] <sham1> Learn something every day

L852[13:24:37] <sham1> And by the way, do I need to worry about SRG names with this

L853[13:25:04] <diesieben07> Yes of course

L854[13:25:04] <sham1> (probably a stupid question as I most likely have to)

L855[13:25:08] <diesieben07> it's basically like reflecton

L856[13:25:18] <sham1> Uhm

L857[13:25:32] <diesieben07> just fast :P

L858[13:25:57] <sham1> Well it gets optimized to the same code as with any other variable/method access

L859[13:26:02] <diesieben07> yes

L860[13:26:03] <sham1> Thank you based JIT

L861[13:26:44] <sham1> Now the only thing I need to see is how I deal with obfuscated names, so I can methodHandle to the right method and field

L862[13:27:00] <diesieben07> want a link? :D

L863[13:27:10] <sham1> I propably should be using unreflect rather than findSpecial and findGetter

L864[13:27:17] <sham1> I'd appreciate it

L865[13:27:24] <diesieben07> https://goo.gl/1FIfwK

L866[13:27:38] <diesieben07> yes, if you use find*** you cannot access privates

L867[13:27:55] <diesieben07> (only the privates that you could access without MH as well)

L868[13:28:02] <sham1> Well damn

L869[13:28:08] <sham1> I do need unreflect then

L870[13:28:18] <diesieben07> yep

L871[13:28:19] <sham1> Welp, that solves the obfuscated names problem

L872[13:28:22] <diesieben07> and call setAccessible before

L873[13:28:31] <diesieben07> lol how so? :D

L874[13:28:47] <diesieben07> how is getDeclaredMethod(...) any different from findMethod(....)

L875[13:28:49] <sham1> SBecause I can use the ReflectionHelper to give me the proper Method/Field

L876[13:29:00] <diesieben07> which doesn't help you find the SRG/MCP name :D

L877[13:29:06] <sham1> I know

L878[13:29:10] <diesieben07> you still have to provide thejm

L879[13:29:13] <diesieben07> which i thougth was your issue

L880[13:29:19] <sham1> I can look them up

L881[13:29:30] <sham1> I've done reflection before

L882[13:29:32] <diesieben07> :D

L883[13:29:38] <sham1> This is just the first time I do MethodHandles

L884[13:29:55] <sham1> because again, scala does not like @PolymorphicSignature

L885[13:30:04] <sham1> Or static final fields

L886[13:30:12] <diesieben07> why are you even using java now? :D

L887[13:30:31] <PaleoCrafter> I'm fairly certain that support for PolymorphicSignature has been introduced :P

L888[13:30:40] <sham1> Well I didn't see it

L889[13:30:44] <PaleoCrafter> https://issues.scala-lang.org/browse/SI-7965

L890[13:31:49] <sham1> Anyway, I went back to Java because with the generics on vanilla, all the sudden I would get errors from places like: "Type mismatch, expected: IProperty[_ <: Comparable[T]], found: PropertyEnum[EnumFacing]"

L891[13:32:09] <sham1> Even though that does conform to the expected type sig

L892[13:32:51] <sham1> Moreover, because scala does not "static final", I cannot get the speed benefit from MethodHandles AFAIK

L893[13:33:04] <PaleoCrafter> scala does have "static" final :P

L894[13:33:10] <PaleoCrafter> object + final val

L895[13:33:18] <sham1> Meep

L896[13:33:23] <sham1> I looked into the bytecode

L897[13:33:31] <sham1> And I didnt see it

L898[13:33:33] <sham1> At all

L899[13:34:01] <fry|sleep> EnumFacing doesn't conform to all _ <: Comparable[T], and, moreso, IProperty is invariant :P

L900[13:34:09] <sham1> True

L901[13:34:18] <sham1> But it conforms to one permutation of it

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L903[13:34:40] <sham1> Which comes from the fact that Enums inherit Comparable

L904[13:34:47] <fry|sleep> that's not quite how existential types work :P

L905[13:34:58] <fry|sleep> especially with that F-bound

L906[13:38:14] <esteth> Do I need to care about Unlocalized Name conflicts in my mod with other mods? ie, should I namespace my unlocalized names with my modname?

L907[13:38:45] <esteth> I'm not sure if forge automagically prefixes my unlocalized names for me

L908[13:38:50] <shadekiller666> you should always "namespace" your unlocalized names...

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L910[13:39:14] <shadekiller666> it does not, because there are some cases in which you don't want the modid prepended

L911[13:39:36] <esteth> Oh, that's interesting. Are there any simple examples? Just out of interest.

L912[13:39:57] <tterrag|phone> examples of...?

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L914[13:41:01] <esteth> of a time you wouldn't want a modid prepended to an unlocalized name

L915[13:41:26] <tterrag|phone> something global?

L916[13:41:26] <OrionOnline> Anybody seen this issue when trying to port to 1.8.8: https://gist.github.com/OrionDevelopment/d0bb622b45221511d267

L917[13:41:30] <gigaherz> why would you NOT want one?

L918[13:41:39] <tterrag|phone> I.e. "cancel" will only translate one way

L919[13:41:44] <sham1> By the way, where was the blackboard in FML

L920[13:41:51] <tterrag|phone> So gui.cancel is probably fine

L921[13:41:53] <esteth> Ah, that makes sense :)

L922[13:42:31] <tterrag|phone> It's not like there's a huge overhead to duplicate lang keys though

L923[13:42:37] <tterrag|phone> So I wouldn't worry about it

L924[13:42:46] <sham1> I have a dev enviorment variable to find

L925[13:43:03] <tterrag|phone> Launch.blackboard

L926[13:43:10] <sham1> Thanks

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L928[13:44:19] <sham1> And what was the key now?

L929[13:44:28] <sham1> I forget this stuff, I'm sorry

L930[13:44:54] <sham1> NVM

L931[13:44:55] <OrionOnline> gigaherz, you remember the Gradle issue i had this afternoon?

L932[13:45:17] <gigaherz> sortof

L933[13:45:23] <gigaherz> I remember you had some issue

L934[13:45:25] <gigaherz> no idea which ;P

L935[13:45:58] <tterrag|phone> https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderCore/blob/master/src/main/java/com/enderio/core/common/transform/EnderCorePlugin.java

L936[13:46:04] <gigaherz> also esteth, it doesn't NEED to be the modid, just something that differentiates your strings from others' strings

L937[13:46:19] <OrionOnline> i just had to put the minecraft version setter above the one for the mappings : XD

L938[13:46:24] <gigaherz> the modid just happenst o be a very good choice

L939[13:46:27] <sham1> !gm getPlayerInstance

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L941[13:48:53] <OrionOnline> Yeay another error.... Updating my mod is not going so great.....

L942[13:52:59] <sham1> !gc PlayerInstance

L943[13:53:13] <sham1> Hmm

L944[13:53:32] <sham1> !gm playersWatchingChunk

L945[13:53:45] <sham1> Well this is odd as hell

L946[13:53:51] <kashike> what is odd?

L947[13:54:02] <sham1> No wait

L948[13:54:05] <sham1> Wrong command

L949[13:54:09] <sham1> !gf playersWatchingChunk

L950[13:54:50] <esteth> Is it possible to create a world rendering effect from a forge mod? like the wavy nether-warp effect, or a shakycam earthquake effect for example?

L951[13:55:04] <sham1> EVERYTHING'S POSSIBLE

L952[13:55:05] <esteth> Also, is there a good way to find out for myself is such a thing is possible?

L953[13:55:14] <esteth> ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

L954[13:55:23] <sham1> Yes

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L956[13:55:32] <sham1> Like Shia tells you

L957[13:55:39] <esteth> don't let your dreams be dreams?

L958[13:55:42] <esteth> just do it?

L959[13:55:58] <sham1> Indeed, you can do anything you want in the world of modding, if you are willing to work for it

L960[13:56:02] <shadekiller666> but, yesterday you said tomorrow

L961[13:56:09] <sham1> Ye

L962[13:56:24] <shadekiller666> and tomorrow you said yesterday

L963[13:57:16] <esteth> OK, since we have patching for the base game, I could do anything, since it's just a java program on my computer. I guess my question should be worded: "do convenient hooks exist already in forge/mc that would allow me to accomplish that kind of rendering effect?"

L964[13:57:39] <shadekiller666> uhhh

L965[13:57:49] <shadekiller666> i believe so

L966[13:58:01] <shadekiller666> but most of the time things aren't convenient

L967[13:58:06] <shadekiller666> damn it...

L968[13:58:14] <shadekiller666> stupid json parsing

L969[13:58:46] <sham1> Time for invokeExact, I think

L970[14:02:00] <OrionOnline> Is there a way to get the Binarydata for the Pixels in a TextureAtlasSprite

L971[14:02:19] <OrionOnline> Is that the frameTextureData?

L972[14:03:16] <gigaherz> yes OrionOnline

L973[14:03:18] <gigaherz> that's the raw pixels

L974[14:03:25] <gigaherz> not even compressed

L975[14:03:27] <gigaherz> just pixel data

L976[14:03:40] <sham1> Yay for hacks: https://github.com/sham1/ManaCraft/blob/master/src/main/java/sham1/manacraft/reflect/ManaCraftReflection.java

L977[14:03:57] <gigaherz> probably in R,G,B,A layout

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L981[14:06:14] <sham1> Does that code look even remotely correct

L982[14:06:19] <OrionOnline> Is there a way to get the ItemModelMesher?

L983[14:06:36] <OrionOnline> cause what fry gave does not work: Minecraft.getMinecraft().getItemModelMesher().getRenderItem().getItemModelMesher().getItemModel(stack).getParticleTexture()

L984[14:08:45] <shadekiller666> that should work

L985[14:08:46] <gigaherz> what?

L986[14:08:49] <gigaherz> why not?

L987[14:08:55] <shadekiller666> thats the way you get the IMM

L988[14:09:21] <OrionOnline> cause there is no getItemModelMesher() in my Minecraft class....

L989[14:09:28] <tterrag|phone> esteth: be more specific

L990[14:09:32] <tterrag|phone> "rendering effect" is pretty vague

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L992[14:09:53] <shadekiller666> oh

L993[14:09:55] <OrionOnline> not even private or protected

L994[14:10:13] <shadekiller666> its Minecraft.getMinecraft().getRenderItem().getItemModelMesher() i think

L995[14:10:18] <tterrag> !gm getItemModelMesher

L996[14:10:19] <OrionOnline> okey

L997[14:10:22] <tterrag> yes

L998[14:10:56] <OrionOnline> Thanks

L999[14:10:59] <shadekiller666> are you trying to set the particle texture sprite from outside of the item?

L1000[14:11:36] <OrionOnline> shadekiller666, no actually i am trying to read it:D

L1001[14:11:43] <OrionOnline> I need the average color of a Item

L1002[14:11:46] <shadekiller666> lol ok

L1003[14:11:56] <shadekiller666> for what purpose?

L1004[14:12:50] <OrionOnline> I use it to generate the Colors of given materials so that my grayscale textures can be used by other mods who want to add Armor (or addons for the armor) to my mod (called Armory)

L1005[14:13:01] <tterrag> why use the particle texture?

L1006[14:13:11] <OrionOnline> The material class has two constructors, one with a color and a item stack

L1007[14:13:16] <OrionOnline> And one with a ItemStack

L1008[14:13:36] <OrionOnline> tterrag, because it is in particular used to convert any registered metal that is registered to TiC to Armory

L1009[14:14:06] <OrionOnline> And because others hook into TiC and give it metals without them noing i turn them into Armor i need a way to get the color

L1010[14:14:22] <OrionOnline> Only way todo that is the ItemStack registered as base stack in TiC

L1011[14:14:35] <OrionOnline> So i parse the Sprite and get the color

L1012[14:14:42] <OrionOnline> I know that it is not 100% fail proof

L1013[14:14:44] <tterrag> but what does the particle have to do with any of that?

L1014[14:15:11] <OrionOnline> I was told by fry that contained the texture of a Item

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L1016[14:15:27] <tterrag> an item might have multiple textures

L1017[14:15:36] <OrionOnline> I know

L1018[14:15:36] <tterrag> that's just what shows when the item is eaten/broken/whatever

L1019[14:15:42] <OrionOnline> I know

L1020[14:15:48] <OrionOnline> but i just need a general color

L1021[14:16:02] <OrionOnline> I basically need to color that he broken particle is

L1022[14:16:09] <tterrag> hmm ok

L1023[14:16:12] <tterrag> well good luck I guess :p

L1024[14:16:17] <OrionOnline> I am done :D

L1025[14:16:17] <shadekiller666> i love when stack traces point to lines that don't have any code on them...

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L1027[14:16:29] <OrionOnline> shadekiller666, that is unfortunate :D

L1028[14:16:36] <OrionOnline> but i am going to play some WoW

L1029[14:16:41] <OrionOnline> So see you guys later

L1030[14:17:09] <shadekiller666> probably has something to do with the fact that the code that was running was different than the code in eclipse :P

L1031[14:17:21] * shadekiller666 didn't hotswap before it crashed

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L1034[14:24:02] <shadekiller666> fry, is there anything that needs to be done to update the OBJLoader to 1.8.8?

L1035[14:26:51] <sham1> Probably updating :P

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L1037[14:30:46] <shadekiller666> hmm

L1038[14:31:12] <shadekiller666> fry, also, is there a way to apply 2 textureatlassprites to a single model?

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L1040[14:32:07] <shadekiller666> or more specifically, make a sprite that is white everywhere except for the actual texture

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L1044[14:36:13] <MattDahEpic> whats the potion field for nausea

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L1046[14:38:58] <MattDahEpic> !gf PotionEffect

L1047[14:40:58] <MattDahEpic> Potion.confusion?!?!? why

L1048[14:41:37] <sham1> Because when you are confused you get nausea

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L1050[14:46:23] <Cricket> none of the potion names make sense :P

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L1054[14:52:43] <HassanS6000> What's the class for a singular layer of snow called?

L1055[14:54:14] <Cricket> Knowing mojang its probably under the carpet

L1056[14:54:31] <Cricket> They probably just layer carpet on top of each other with the snow texture

L1057[14:54:43] <HassanS6000> Cricket, nope it's BlockSnow xD

L1058[14:54:59] <Cricket> Good job mojang

L1059[14:55:03] <alex_6611> snow layers have existed in minecraft for muuuuuch longer than carpet :D

L1060[14:56:07] <Cricket> I stay away from snow biomes, makes such a mess

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L1062[15:01:25] <killjoy> Yup. So Mojang didn't name that.

L1063[15:01:28] <killjoy> blame mcp

L1064[15:02:18] <esteth> Anyone know why I get a seemingly infinite recursion when I call world.setBlockState(...) inside an IWorldGenerator#generate() call? I thought that was what I was supposed to do...

L1065[15:03:09] <Cricket> https://github.com/Chisel-2/Chisel-2/blob/1.8/src/main/java/com/cricketcraft/chisel/world/GeneratorChisel.java

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L1067[15:03:50] <Cricket> Theres a 1.8 generator

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L1069[15:04:20] <esteth> Cricket: This generates ore, but I actually want to generate structures

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L1071[15:05:03] <Cricket> Oh most people that ask about generators want the ore in my experience :P

L1072[15:05:20] <esteth> Seems like it'd be more sensible to start there :P

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L1077[15:09:44] <MattDahEpic> for some reason my player movement between dimesions is borked. code is https://github.com/MattDahEpic/TelePacks/blob/1.8.8/src/main/java/com/mattdahepic/telepacks/item/ItemTelePack.java#L65

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L1084[15:15:15] <masa> define borked

L1085[15:15:26] <MattDahEpic> one moment, makign a gif

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L1087[15:15:42] <Cricket> "I have this thing thats broken, do you know whats wrong" doesn't really help :P

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L1089[15:16:15] <MattDahEpic> it places you in a "fake" dimesion and when you teleport again you show up in the right place

L1090[15:17:26] <Cricket> wat?

L1091[15:18:47] <tterrag|away> https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderIO/blob/master/src/main/java/crazypants/enderio/teleport/telepad/TileTelePad.java

L1092[15:18:55] <tterrag|away> see serverTeleport

L1093[15:19:07] <tterrag|away> Can't do line numbers on mobile too easy

L1094[15:20:14] <MattDahEpic> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/146233520/ShareX/2015/11/2015-11-30_14-17-58.mp4

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L1096[15:20:31] <MattDahEpic> the first cross dim teleport doesnt bring you to the location

L1097[15:21:31] <Cricket> Do you wan the player to get sick?

L1098[15:21:34] <Cricket> want*

L1099[15:22:02] <MattDahEpic> that happens when the player stops teleporting too early

L1100[15:22:36] <OrionOnline> Is there a way to get the fontrenderer in1.8?

L1101[15:22:39] <MattDahEpic> ive fixed that

L1102[15:22:41] <OrionOnline> Or did that change to?

L1103[15:24:47] <OrionOnline> Oh found it

L1104[15:24:52] <OrionOnline> just added the obj

L1105[15:25:47] <OrionOnline> What is the way to get the StillIcon from a Fluid?

L1106[15:26:01] <OrionOnline> I currently only see a way to get the ResourceLocation

L1107[15:26:12] <OrionOnline> but how do i turn that into a Texture for rendering in a UI?

L1108[15:27:42] <masa> MattDahEpic: seems to me that the position update gets lost, try setting the position after you have teleported the player to the other dimension instead of before it

L1109[15:28:52] <Thutmose> hmm is this my fault, or something in forge/vanilla? http://pastebin.com/h2pmzs3V

L1110[15:29:19] <Thutmose> I had never seen it cause that particular issue in 1.7.10

L1111[15:29:38] <esteth> Is there documentation on the flags for World#setBlockState? I can't see any javadoc

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L1113[15:30:57] <alex_6611> the 2 default enabled flags are 1 (do block update) and 2 (send to client), idk about others

L1114[15:31:57] <esteth> Ah, so during worldgen I just want 2, not 1? That might be why I'm getting an infinite loop?

L1115[15:32:08] <alex_6611> not sure, maybe

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L1117[15:32:57] <Thutmose> it makes the block for update if this: ((flags & 2) != 0 && (!this.isRemote || (flags & 4) == 0) && (chunk == null || chunk.isPopulated()))

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L1120[15:33:30] <Thutmose> and it notifies neighbours if this: (!this.isRemote && (flags & 1) != 0)

L1121[15:33:52] <alex_6611> yea, "marking for update" means syncing to client

L1122[15:34:04] <alex_6611> and notifying neighbors is a block update

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L1125[15:34:37] <alex_6611> don't fully understand what flag 4 is supposed to be

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L1127[15:35:16] <Thutmose> it seems to result in client side also being marked for update

L1128[15:35:49] <alex_6611> yes, not sure what that would do though

L1129[15:35:57] <alex_6611> go research! :P

L1130[15:36:05] <Thutmose> I assume re-render it

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L1133[15:37:04] <Thutmose> yes, it re-renders on client

L1134[15:37:17] <Thutmose> or sends to client to notify about re-rendering on server

L1135[15:39:27] <MattDahEpic> why does Item.onPlayerStoppedUsing#timeLeft never be 0 on item finish

L1136[15:40:12] <gigaherz> did you give a max time?

L1137[15:40:19] <gigaherz> wait

L1138[15:40:22] <gigaherz> stopped using means

L1139[15:40:23] <gigaherz> stopped early

L1140[15:40:29] <gigaherz> when it completed, there's another thing called

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L1144[15:42:24] <gigaherz> or am I confused?

L1145[15:42:35] <rockers3000> Hello ;)

L1146[15:43:03] <Cricket> Why the winky face?

L1147[15:43:03] <gigaherz> hello

L1148[15:43:12] <rockers3000> 'Twas an accident

L1149[15:43:14] <rockers3000> lol

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L1151[15:43:20] <AndersBillLind> Hello!

L1152[15:43:28] <rockers3000> Hello

L1153[15:43:34] <gigaherz> hello

L1154[15:43:38] <Cricket> Accidental giggity

L1155[15:43:47] <gigaherz> nothing wrong with feeling happy ;P

L1156[15:43:53] <rockers3000> *huehuehue*

L1157[15:44:54] <rockers3000> Ok... I'm on spotify and some random German party rap has started playing. What do?

L1158[15:45:09] <Cricket> Dance

L1159[15:45:09] <MattDahEpic> do maybe pause

L1160[15:45:18] <Cricket> Dance is the only thing to do

L1161[15:45:28] <rockers3000> -_(i_i)_-

L1162[15:45:30] <gigaherz> either enjoy of jump to the next track?

L1163[15:45:41] <rockers3000> It sounds funky though..

L1164[15:45:59] <Cricket> Well its german party rap

L1165[15:46:03] <Cricket> idk what you expected

L1166[15:46:07] <rockers3000> https://open.spotify.com/track/4GqLvfkDkoFjuEoUXFUnZg

L1167[15:47:17] <AndersBillLind> Should I put the @SubscribeEvent metadata on an inner class to the class implementing IExtendedEntityProperties?

L1168[15:47:39] <AndersBillLind> Trying to get onEntityConstructing events

L1169[15:47:55] <AndersBillLind> gigaherz: You were speaking about an inner class, didnt quite get that

L1170[15:48:02] <gigaherz> AndersBillLind: @SubscribeEvents goes on each method that needs it

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L1172[15:48:29] <gigaherz> class MyIEEP extends IEEP

L1173[15:48:30] <gigaherz> {

L1174[15:48:33] <gigaherz> ieep stuffs here

L1175[15:48:39] <gigaherz> class Handler {

L1176[15:48:45] <gigaherz> @SubscribeEvent

L1177[15:48:49] <AndersBillLind> yeah

L1178[15:48:51] <gigaherz> onentityconstructed

L1179[15:48:55] <gigaherz> }

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L1181[15:49:00] <gigaherz> }

L1182[15:49:14] <gigaherz> then on your preInit you do

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L1184[15:49:26] <gigaherz> MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.whatever(new MyIEEP.Handler())

L1185[15:49:31] <AndersBillLind> And in my onItemUse handler, I use ExtendedPropertiesMagicWand p = (ExtendedPropertiesMagicWand)player.getExtendedProperties("wand");, but that seems to give me null

L1186[15:49:40] <gigaherz> static class Handler**

L1187[15:49:52] <AndersBillLind> Ah, of course!!!

L1188[15:49:56] <gigaherz> the first time, it may be null

L1189[15:49:56] <AndersBillLind> How else could it be called

L1190[15:49:58] <gigaherz> in that case

L1191[15:50:05] <gigaherz> you have to set()

L1192[15:50:29] <MattDahEpic> ieep ieep ieep wabeldoodble

L1193[15:50:31] <gigaherz> if(p == null) player.setExtendedProperties("wand", new MyIEEP);

L1194[15:50:42] <AndersBillLind> Why cannot I use registerExtendedProperties excensively in onItemUse then?

L1195[15:50:53] <gigaherz> hm

L1196[15:50:54] <gigaherz> wati

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L1198[15:50:55] <gigaherz> nevermind that

L1199[15:51:01] <gigaherz> I was being confused with the world storage

L1200[15:51:12] <gigaherz> that's right, ieeps aren't set

L1201[15:51:20] <gigaherz> they are registered in the entityconstructingevent

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L1203[15:51:33] <gigaherz> is you event getting called?

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L1205[15:51:57] <AndersBillLind> I was putting a breakpoint in it, but I dont rely on the breakpoint to be hit, even if the method is called

L1206[15:52:06] <AndersBillLind> And the method was not static, it should be that?

L1207[15:52:24] <gigaherz> uh+

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L1209[15:52:29] <gigaherz> if the breakpoint isn't hit

L1210[15:52:32] <gigaherz> the method was NOT called

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L1212[15:52:57] <rockers3000> Can't breakpoints be sketchy at times? What about a System log....

L1213[15:53:00] <gigaherz> if a breakpoint doesn't hit, I consider that a broken debugger

L1214[15:53:09] <AndersBillLind> ok

L1215[15:53:20] <AndersBillLind> How is the inner class supposed to be instanced?

L1216[15:53:27] <gigaherz> rockers3000: there may be some special situations where breakpoints don't hit, but not a normal execution of an event

L1217[15:53:37] <gigaherz> AndersBillLind: just as an inner class

L1218[15:53:42] <gigaherz> [22:49] (gigaherz): MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.whatever(new MyIEEP.Handler())

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L1220[15:53:51] <gigaherz> I can't remember if it's .register( or what the method is called

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L1222[15:54:06] <rockers3000> gigaherz Ok, yeah, I suppose.

L1223[15:54:24] <AndersBillLind> I have kept those methods I need to implement empty, that is perhaps a problem

L1224[15:54:48] <Horfius> You can create conditional breakpoints, but normal breakpoints should always hit if called

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L1226[15:55:20] <AndersBillLind> Hm, what if I use some kind of container on my own? There I can store every players information about the entity

L1227[15:55:22] <rockers3000> I suppose it can depend on the IDE.

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L1229[15:56:44] <AndersBillLind> I can maybe use the players id and look up a dictionary of some kind

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L1231[15:58:27] <AndersBillLind> Hm, can get a players UUID, thats perhaps what I want as key

L1232[15:58:34] <rockers3000> AndersBillLind Is it necessary? A list of players might be fine for small multiplayer servers but what about servers that are thousands strong? It would have to iterate through thousands of Players (or UUIDs). [Unless you used a dictionary.]

L1233[15:58:48] <AndersBillLind> I can use a HashMap or something

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L1236[15:59:09] <Cricket> Its going to bottleneck

L1237[15:59:17] <AndersBillLind> As the extended property mechanism is using a HashMap or something

L1238[15:59:39] <AndersBillLind> They will not store on this, so it will be less of a bottleneck :)

L1239[15:59:41] <AndersBillLind> oops

L1240[15:59:44] <AndersBillLind> store on disk

L1241[16:00:08] <rockers3000> I've run into a problem involving particles.

L1242[16:00:18] <rockers3000> The keep spawning when I don't want them to...

L1243[16:00:21] <rockers3000> *They

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L1247[16:02:07] <MattDahEpic> woo down to 3 mods that need updating to 1.8.8, 2 need 1.8.8 mappings

L1248[16:02:17] <ThePsionic> Yay MattDahEpic gogogo

L1249[16:02:34] <rockers3000> That sounds like a nightmare MattDahEpic

L1250[16:02:46] <rockers3000> damned .json

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L1253[16:03:56] <rockers3000> I have a custom liquid and the default water particles keep spawning even though I have my own particles spawning. I don't know where the particles for the default water is generated. Is it part of materials.water?

L1254[16:07:13] <rockers3000> I have no idea what I have to override or create in order to change the outcome...

L1255[16:07:40] <Cricket> Its probably part of the material then

L1256[16:08:00] <rockers3000> I thought so.... Would I have to create a new material?

L1257[16:08:28] <AndersBillLind> hehe, I have a teleporting magic wand which gives away a sizzling sound when I cast a spell, but I hear that sound from a dinstance, because I got teleported

L1258[16:08:45] <AndersBillLind> Having a Map<UUID,MagicWandProperties> was working

L1259[16:08:50] <rockers3000> Couldn't you have it generate at the place where you will tp

L1260[16:08:59] <AndersBillLind> = new HashMap<UUDI, MagicWandProperties>();

L1261[16:09:13] <Cricket> UUID* MiniK

L1262[16:09:25] <AndersBillLind> Is such an id a long crappy string?

L1263[16:09:28] <rockers3000> gg topkek 9/10 mlg

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L1265[16:10:15] <diesieben07> AndersBillLind, you shoudln't be using a Map of your own. IEEP is just fine adn will perofrm better

L1266[16:10:30] <rockers3000> A universally unique identifier (UUID) is an identifier standard used in software construction. A UUID is simply a 128-bit value. >> Wikipedia

L1267[16:10:39] <diesieben07> yup

L1268[16:11:04] <AndersBillLind> diesieben07: The only drawback was that I did not manage to use it

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L1270[16:11:19] <diesieben07> then you were doing it wrong™

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L1272[16:11:30] <AndersBillLind> Yes?

L1273[16:11:39] <diesieben07> lol

L1274[16:11:43] <AndersBillLind> :)

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L1276[16:11:51] <diesieben07> otherwise it would've worked

L1277[16:12:01] <AndersBillLind> Of course it would

L1278[16:12:02] <ThePsionic> Don't do things wrong in public, diesieben07 will track you down

L1279[16:12:30] <diesieben07> the seven sees all

L1280[16:13:06] <rockers3000> You can run, but you can't hide.

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L1282[16:15:21] <gigaherz> hmmm

L1283[16:15:25] <gigaherz> when you throw an ender pearl in mc

L1284[16:15:33] <gigaherz> is there any way that it would drop back as an item without teleporting?

L1285[16:15:53] <MattDahEpic> if you hit yourself....

L1286[16:16:01] <ThePsionic> Not even then

L1287[16:16:17] <ThePsionic> You'll still be "teleported", albeit not moving, and you'll take damage and lose the pearl

L1288[16:16:19] <gigaherz> I just added a "teleport" spell to my magic mod

L1289[16:16:29] <gigaherz> and I did that by spawning an ender pearl entity

L1290[16:16:38] <gigaherz> Iwas hoping it wouldn't be used to generate free pearls

L1291[16:16:38] <gigaherz> XD

L1292[16:17:26] <AndersBillLind> I added an ender perl spell to my magic wand so I could get an ender perl, I tested to throw it in the sea just to check if I would start swimming at that spot

L1293[16:17:28] <AndersBillLind> nothing happened

L1294[16:17:29] <ThePsionic> Nah, once thrown the ender pearl is lost guarateed

L1295[16:17:32] <gigaherz> although I think I'll copy the code

L1296[16:17:36] <AndersBillLind> Until a half a minute has ended

L1297[16:17:37] <gigaherz> becauseI don't want to generate mites

L1298[16:17:40] <ThePsionic> AndersBillLind: Uhhh what

L1299[16:17:52] <AndersBillLind> Then all became black

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L1301[16:18:11] <AndersBillLind> Lol, did not realize I would end up in the bottom of the sea

L1302[16:18:39] <gigaherz> never threw an ender pearl into water?

L1303[16:18:39] <gigaherz> ;P

L1304[16:18:45] <ThePsionic> Yeah it just goes on under water

L1305[16:18:48] <AndersBillLind> I learned that the hard way

L1306[16:18:57] <masa> well yeah, because the pearl entity will not collide with water

L1307[16:19:00] <ThePsionic> The only way you wouldn't be teleported is if you would throw it into the void

L1308[16:19:13] <rockers3000> Someone should make a mod where you can run on water.

L1309[16:19:23] <AndersBillLind> Can bedrock be put in the inventory?

L1310[16:19:23] <gigaherz> it exists

L1311[16:19:24] <masa> you eman vanilla 1.9? ;)

L1312[16:19:28] <masa> *mean

L1313[16:19:34] <rockers3000> ok

L1314[16:19:36] <gigaherz> there's some boots that let you walk on water

L1315[16:19:48] <gigaherz> and then there's the frostwalker in 1.9

L1316[16:19:49] <rockers3000> I'm horribly uninformed about 1.9.

L1317[16:20:01] <gigaherz> so you don't know about the Mending enchant either?

L1318[16:20:03] <AndersBillLind> I heard about a new jetpack, is that reality now?

L1319[16:20:04] <rockers3000> imo I'm not keen on 1.8 or 1.9

L1320[16:20:14] <gigaherz> AndersBillLind: jetpack?

L1321[16:20:21] <gigaherz> no just the glider wings

L1322[16:20:25] <gigaherz> still amazing though

L1323[16:20:47] <AndersBillLind> ok!

L1324[16:21:07] <rockers3000> All of it feels very temperamental.

L1325[16:21:08] <masa> I love 1.8 vanilla, but not sure how to fee labout 1.9 vanilla... I dislike the combat changes, I think they are just plain annoying for "regular" survival play focused more on building and occasional exploration

L1326[16:21:20] <rockers3000> I know masa

L1327[16:21:35] <gigaherz> I'm ambivalent

L1328[16:21:59] <gigaherz> the combat changes are not bad per se

L1329[16:22:06] <masa> there are nice changes too, but the combat changes are what puts me off... not sure if/when I'll update my vanilla server from 1.8.8

L1330[16:22:07] <gigaherz> but they do make combat slower-paced

L1331[16:22:12] <gigaherz> but

L1332[16:22:17] <gigaherz> the glider wings and the mending enchant

L1333[16:22:21] <rockers3000> There are mods for that. If anyone wants to get that indepth that they want dual-wielding then they should know how to be able to download and install mods....

L1334[16:22:26] <gigaherz> those two make it worth upgrading for vanilla

L1335[16:22:32] <masa> yeah maybe

L1336[16:22:56] <rockers3000> Minecraft is getting better in terms of updates though.

L1337[16:23:01] <rockers3000> They are innovating now.

L1338[16:23:05] <Cricket> not really

L1339[16:23:11] <rockers3000> More than before

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L1341[16:23:27] <Cricket> What about this update is innovating?

L1342[16:23:28] <rockers3000> For the past year, they have been like "hurr durr clay coloured blocks yay"

L1343[16:23:29] <HassanS6000> How to update a IProperty via BlockState?

L1344[16:23:41] <HassanS6000> Ex. BlockSnow has a property LAYERS, cannot find where it is being changed

L1345[16:23:46] <masa> I don't like the dual wielding changes/implementation, I think it is based on the onItemUse() return values which hand's item is used, which means that when you try to place blocks from lets say left hand and you miss, you will then use the item from the right hand, for example a bow... ugh

L1346[16:23:52] <rockers3000> (Actually, I like clay coloured blocks.)

L1347[16:23:55] <AndersBillLind> Seems to be no Items.elytra

L1348[16:24:18] <TehNut> Because the Elytra is 1.9

L1349[16:24:21] <masa> and also, reguiring a frickin shield to be able to block surprise creepers, no thanks... I don't need 30% of the screen space be blocked by that crap all the time

L1350[16:24:31] <gigaherz> AndersBillLind: that's 1.9 not 1.8.8 XD

L1351[16:24:35] <diesieben07> HassanS6000, IBlockState#withProperty(property, value) gives you a new IBlockState with the property set to the value

L1352[16:24:35] <AndersBillLind> ok

L1353[16:24:40] <AndersBillLind> I have to wait then :)

L1354[16:24:44] <HassanS6000> diesieben07, Thanks :)

L1355[16:24:45] <rockers3000> Oh no! Yeah you're right. It's probably going to be onItemUse(int hand) return ItemStackInHand;

L1356[16:25:04] <rockers3000> Not that big of a pain though.

L1357[16:25:45] <AndersBillLind> bye

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L1361[16:29:02] <rockers3000> Ok. Cricket , my "blood water" now has its own material. But I can walk through it..

L1362[16:29:12] <rockers3000> No particles though.

L1363[16:29:17] <Cricket> you are jesus :P

L1364[16:29:23] <rockers3000> Literally

L1365[16:29:33] <Cricket> I say ship it :P

L1366[16:29:55] <rockers3000> Ship dodgy red blood and me?

L1367[16:30:02] <rockers3000> Bloody rockers!

L1368[16:30:11] <rockers3000> (I get called that alot actually)

L1369[16:30:35] <rockers3000> brb

L1370[16:30:50] <diesieben07> he's gonna go cuddle his alot

L1371[16:31:19] <Horfius> Can someone give me the quick rundown on how mods work in 1.8.8?

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L1373[16:31:36] <diesieben07> pretty much the same they work in 1.8

L1374[16:31:39] <TehNut> you use json for everything

L1375[16:31:44] <ThePsionic> Horfius: Well, you write code and stuff happens

L1376[16:31:48] <ThePsionic> If you do it right

L1377[16:32:11] <Horfius> Can you give me more of the "if you do it right" bit?

L1378[16:32:19] <Cricket> Can you code a mod

L1379[16:32:23] <Cricket> Then you did it right

L1380[16:32:29] <ThePsionic> :D

L1381[16:32:30] <Cricket> Rinse and repeat

L1382[16:32:37] <Horfius> Not helpful

L1383[16:32:42] <ThePsionic> Cricket: you should write a book

L1384[16:32:52] <Horfius> Okay, first question: What happened to @Mod?

L1385[16:32:57] <ThePsionic> Nothing

L1386[16:33:10] <ThePsionic> setupDecompWorkspace mate :^)

L1387[16:33:18] <Horfius> I already did

L1388[16:33:28] <ThePsionic> do it better

L1389[16:33:32] <TehNut> er

L1390[16:33:34] <TehNut> Nothing happened?

L1391[16:33:36] <masa> oh I'm so glad I updated some of my mods to 1.8.8 yesterday. There has already been ONE download for one of them!

L1392[16:33:36] <Horfius> And the class exists, but it tells me that it's not an applicable type

L1393[16:33:49] <Cricket> lol

L1394[16:34:00] <diesieben07> what did you type? show your code.

L1395[16:34:02] <rockers3000> setupDecompWorkspace turbo-C++

L1396[16:34:06] <ThePsionic> masa: http://i.imgur.com/X5lkPlN.png

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L1398[16:34:08] <masa> oh wow and 2 and 3 for the other two

L1399[16:34:40] <Horfius> With proper imports of course http://pastebin.com/ha2xWWc1

L1400[16:34:49] <gigaherz> Horfius: decompiling may have crashed

L1401[16:35:01] <gigaherz> you need to make sure that it finished successfully

L1402[16:35:03] <gigaherz> and not with an error

L1403[16:35:14] <Horfius> didn't see one

L1404[16:35:29] <diesieben07> and the error on that is where? that looks fine to me

L1405[16:35:45] <Cricket> Nice pseudo code :P

L1406[16:35:47] <gigaherz> did you refresh your eclipse/idea project?

L1407[16:36:01] <Horfius> Yes, I reset the whole thing in fact

L1408[16:36:10] <masa> is there a strict acceptedMinecarftVersion inferred if one is not provided?

L1409[16:36:11] <Cricket> reset != refresh

L1410[16:36:16] <rockers3000> Yeah, but anyone could say that they got 34 downloads....

L1411[16:36:35] <Horfius> I like to keep it strict just in case people are idiots

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L1413[16:36:51] <masa> because all of my 1.8 mods refused to work in 1.8.8, it said that they rewuire 1.8

L1414[16:37:02] <rockers3000> masa, ThePsionic for example

L1415[16:37:03] <rockers3000> http://i.imgur.com/tQ2cKzP.png

L1416[16:37:14] <TehNut> masa: Yes, FG sets it to the version specified in build.gradle

L1417[16:37:16] <ThePsionic> B)

L1418[16:37:17] <rockers3000> (kek)

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L1420[16:37:21] <TehNut> Just use [1.8,)

L1421[16:37:31] <ThePsionic> No but srsly rockers3000 http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/undercraft

L1422[16:37:32] <rockers3000> Guys, 2.0 has just come out

L1423[16:37:36] <Horfius> By reset, I mean I completely deleted the idea workspace files and only kept the source, then dled the latest 1.8.8

L1424[16:37:39] <masa> TehNut: oh, ok thanks

L1425[16:37:44] <gigaherz> 2.0 of what, rockers3000?

L1426[16:37:57] <rockers3000> MinCraft

L1427[16:38:04] <ThePsionic> pls

L1428[16:38:07] <rockers3000> without the e

L1429[16:38:08] <Horfius> And gradle is giving me no errors when checking decomp

L1430[16:38:09] <rockers3000> snpai

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L1432[16:38:29] <ThePsionic> rockers3000: http://www.mincraft.com/

L1433[16:38:44] <rockers3000> hahaha

L1434[16:38:50] <diesieben07> lol

L1435[16:38:54] <diesieben07> dat mysql message

L1436[16:38:59] <rockers3000> Someone needs to make a mincraft minecraft mod

L1437[16:39:10] <rockers3000> "All about gemstones"

L1438[16:39:16] <Horfius> OHHHHHHHH

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L1440[16:39:30] <illyohs> "Deprecated: mysql_connect()" so pretty

L1441[16:39:33] <Horfius> I know what's wrong. IntelliJ didn't actually set the SDK

L1442[16:39:39] <diesieben07> lol

L1443[16:39:57] <rockers3000> Well, they tried.

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L1445[16:40:03] <rockers3000> 10/10 for effort.

L1446[16:40:05] <ThePsionic> rockers3000: https://github.com/ThePsionic/Ingens/blob/master/src/main/java/com/thepsionic/ingens/items/itemclasses/craftmaterial/ItemGemstone.java

L1447[16:40:09] <ThePsionic> :3c

L1448[16:40:20] <rockers3000> emmergerd

L1449[16:40:28] <rockers3000> its all coming together

L1450[16:40:30] <Horfius> Okay, everything is good now :D

L1451[16:40:30] <rockers3000> GUYS!

L1452[16:40:43] <rockers3000> ThePsionic IS THE ILLUMINARTY PARTY

L1453[16:40:43] <ThePsionic> rockers3000: I have everything you need ;)

L1454[16:40:56] <gigaherz> Min'E'Craft

L1455[16:41:16] <rockers3000> ΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔ ILLUMINARTY PARTY CONFIRM!!1! ΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔ

L1456[16:41:25] <ThePsionic> delta delta

L1457[16:41:52] <rockers3000> I wonder if anybody is going to make a spotify mod for minecraft

L1458[16:41:53] <Horfius> Now derive it

L1459[16:42:10] <Horfius> That sounds... difficult

L1460[16:42:16] <ThePsionic> Well, time to disappoint rockers3000 here

L1461[16:42:28] <Horfius> I mean, vazkii has a mod that you can create music playlists and listen to them in-game

L1462[16:42:39] <rockers3000> That's cool

L1463[16:42:45] <ThePsionic> Gliby has a voice chat mod

L1464[16:42:46] <rockers3000> *sniffles*

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L1466[16:42:53] <rockers3000> wow

L1467[16:43:01] <rockers3000> Imagine that on skyblock.net

L1468[16:43:03] <rockers3000> gg

L1469[16:43:06] <ThePsionic> rip

L1470[16:43:42] <rockers3000> ***Sho guysh, today I willsh ve playing MinshCrafts***

L1471[16:44:04] <ThePsionic> 10 year old let's player with braces?

L1472[16:44:13] <rockers3000> Δ Yes Δ

L1473[16:45:37] <gigaherz> XD

L1474[16:45:39] <gigaherz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2pXiki0wY

L1475[16:45:45] <gigaherz> they nearly ragequit from blast off

L1476[16:45:54] <gigaherz> they are now playing journey to the code - get rekt edition

L1477[16:45:57] <gigaherz> core*

L1478[16:46:02] <gigaherz> this will be fun.

L1479[16:46:31] <rockers3000> My sister watches them too much.

L1480[16:46:38] <rockers3000> Wait.

L1481[16:46:44] <rockers3000> Is one of your mods in the modpack?

L1482[16:47:09] <tterrag|away> I know the creator of journey to the core

L1483[16:47:15] <tterrag|away> definitely will be interesting for them to play

L1484[16:47:19] <rockers3000> That's cool.

L1485[16:47:26] <HassanS6000> diesieben07, how would I write AND read multiple integers in a packet?

L1486[16:47:41] <tterrag|away> just read them in the same order you wrote them

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L1488[16:47:47] <tterrag|away> that's all

L1489[16:48:15] <HassanS6000> tterrag|away, Oh. Thanks :D

L1490[16:48:57] <rockers3000> So, what are the mods that everybody is working on?

L1491[16:49:13] <rockers3000> I'm working on a mod named Satanic Offerings ;D

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L1493[16:49:26] <ThePsionic> Sounds like fun for the whole family

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L1495[16:49:53] <rockers3000> http://i.imgur.com/6HERFrW.jpg

L1496[16:50:29] <HassanS6000> rockers3000, Star Wars Mod

L1497[16:50:36] <rockers3000> Thats cool

L1498[16:50:40] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower

L1499[16:50:58] <rockers3000> That also sounds cool

L1500[16:50:59] <tterrag|away> Just getting home so nothing :p

L1501[16:50:59] <gigaherz> it's something I have been slowly working on since whenever mc1.4.7 was

L1502[16:51:03] * Thutmose is working on https://github.com/Thutmose/Pokecube

L1503[16:51:05] <rockers3000> :D

L1504[16:51:06] <ThePsionic> I just showed you my two main projects rockers3000 :P

L1505[16:51:26] <rockers3000> They looked good too!

L1506[16:51:38] <ThePsionic> :D

L1507[16:51:40] <rockers3000> Why does everyone work with GitHub

L1508[16:51:47] <rockers3000> Where my Dropbox homies at?

L1509[16:51:47] <HassanS6000> rockers3000, cuz yay

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L1511[16:51:55] <ThePsionic> Dropbox isn't a VCS

L1512[16:51:57] <ThePsionic> that's why

L1513[16:51:59] <rockers3000> Shhh

L1514[16:52:03] <rockers3000> It is if you believe

L1515[16:52:07] <ThePsionic> Noh

L1516[16:52:24] <rockers3000> I know it's not versioning

L1517[16:52:27] <rockers3000> but m80

L1518[16:52:32] <rockers3000> what about folders?

L1519[16:52:32] <illyohs> heh I remember when I used git as a vcs then I learnd how to git

L1520[16:52:41] <diesieben07> since when does git not have folders? :O

L1521[16:52:42] <rockers3000> ΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔ ILLUMINARTY PARTY CONFIRM!!1! ΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔΔ

L1522[16:52:48] <diesieben07> the fuck are you talkign abotu man?`:D

L1523[16:52:54] <ThePsionic> rockers3000: I use GitHub for VCS and Stack for file mirroring

L1524[16:53:00] <rockers3000> I'm too dumb for git

L1525[16:53:08] <rockers3000> jkjkjk *too lazy

L1526[16:53:14] <diesieben07> wat

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L1528[16:53:19] <diesieben07> that is not an argument.

L1529[16:53:25] <ThePsionic> wat indeed

L1530[16:53:30] <rockers3000> Besides, I mod by myself.

L1531[16:53:37] <rockers3000> I don't use any Versioning system

L1532[16:53:46] <diesieben07> well, your loss i guess

L1533[16:53:49] <rockers3000> :p

L1534[16:53:52] <ThePsionic> I mod by myself too :P

L1535[16:54:12] <ThePsionic> I just like having my code open-source so anyone can pick up work on it if I vanish for whatever reason

L1536[16:54:15] <diesieben07> git gives you the ability to do things like CI, too

L1537[16:54:20] <ThePsionic> Yep

L1538[16:54:25] <HassanS6000> diesieben07, yep

L1539[16:54:29] <rockers3000> In all honesty, it's because I haven't set one up yet. I don't refuse to use git, I just haven't yet.

L1540[16:54:30] <HassanS6000> Jenkins FTW :P

L1541[16:54:35] <diesieben07> ewww jenkins

L1542[16:54:38] <HassanS6000> Haha

L1543[16:54:40] * diesieben07 points at travis-ci

L1544[16:54:45] * HassanS6000 points the other way

L1545[16:54:50] <ThePsionic> Jenkins > travis any day

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L1547[16:54:53] <illyohs> also git bisect is a god send

L1548[16:55:01] * rockers3000 is confused.

L1549[16:55:15] <diesieben07> someones does it for me > i need to do the dirty work any day :D

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L1551[16:55:25] <tterrag> travis is nice for quick throwaway builds

L1552[16:55:25] <ThePsionic> rockers3000: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_integration

L1553[16:55:25] <rockers3000> What is CI?

L1554[16:55:27] <tterrag> and that's what I use it for

L1555[16:55:30] <tterrag> nothing else :P

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L1557[16:55:37] <diesieben07> Contionous Integration

L1558[16:55:43] <tterrag> i.e. http://ci.tterrag.com

L1559[16:55:47] <diesieben07> you push to GH, it builds your project

L1560[16:56:05] <diesieben07> throwaway builds? wat

L1561[16:56:05] <rockers3000> Oh

L1562[16:56:10] <rockers3000> I see

L1563[16:56:11] <tterrag> diesieben07: PR tests

L1564[16:56:18] <diesieben07> i have my travis push to my maven repo

L1565[16:56:19] <ThePsionic> tterrag: Didn't I use to have a mod on there? :P

L1566[16:56:21] <diesieben07> i dont see whats wrong with that

L1567[16:56:24] <tterrag> ThePsionic: maybe?

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L1569[16:56:33] <tterrag> what was it?>

L1570[16:56:35] <ThePsionic> Can't even remember which

L1571[16:56:35] <rockers3000> You upload to Git. -> Git builds. -> Yay?

L1572[16:56:38] <HassanS6000> Halp! My JSONs borked

L1573[16:56:44] <diesieben07> git doesnt build

L1574[16:56:48] <diesieben07> git also is not something you can upload to.

L1575[16:56:50] <ThePsionic> I just remember me using your Jenkins build tterrag

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L1577[16:57:25] <tterrag> diesieben07: https://travis-ci.org/SleepyTrousers/EnderIO/pull_requests

L1578[16:57:28] <tterrag> that's all I'm using travis for atm

L1579[16:57:32] <tterrag> and henry set that all up...not me

L1580[16:57:53] <diesieben07> i am just asking *why* you need your own ;)

L1581[16:57:57] <rockers3000> How do people manage to view information about a program on git without uploading?

L1582[16:58:00] <HassanS6000> 1) https://gyazo.com/7b320d29668785061371c6890b06490c 2) https://gyazo.com/1f1a2da41f15656cf2f5cfcfd4733c22 3)https://gyazo.com/b934e71f20beaaeddff0344ee9250460

L1583[16:58:06] <HassanS6000> Something is borked..

L1584[16:58:17] <diesieben07> rockers3000, that is called github. which is just a website for hosting git repos.

L1585[16:58:25] <ThePsionic> Good job HassanS6000 you broke everything

L1586[16:59:06] <HassanS6000> This b my BlockState.JSON: http://pastebin.com/Rw5axr1w

L1587[16:59:18] <rockers3000> So you have to use a seperate system for the actual files like Dropbox?

L1588[16:59:26] <HassanS6000> This b #4: http://pastebin.com/q8W63xND

L1589[16:59:28] <tterrag> rockers3000: github and git are related in no ways, other than the fact that github hosts git repos

L1590[16:59:29] <HassanS6000> Now what did I doooo

L1591[16:59:34] <rockers3000> Oh

L1592[16:59:42] <rockers3000> Time for a tutorial I think

L1593[16:59:52] <tterrag> https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git/

L1594[16:59:55] <tterrag> enjoy

L1595[16:59:56] <gigaherz> Git is a distributed version control system

L1596[17:00:05] <diesieben07> you could use e.g. bitbucket as an alternative for github and still use git

L1597[17:00:08] <gigaherz> it allows people to share code including full history of changes

L1598[17:00:08] <diesieben07> or you could host your own server.

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L1600[17:00:24] <gigaherz> Github is a hosting company that provides remote repositories for git

L1601[17:00:31] <rockers3000> Okay, So you can upload to github which uses git for repos?

L1602[17:00:35] <gigaherz> yep

L1603[17:00:38] <rockers3000> I see

L1604[17:00:40] <gigaherz> big note on *CAN*

L1605[17:00:43] <gigaherz> you can also work fully offline

L1606[17:00:51] <rockers3000> Shhh

L1607[17:00:54] <rockers3000> don't confuse me

L1608[17:00:57] <rockers3000> jkj

L1609[17:00:57] <tterrag> github is good for sharing your code, and backing it up as well

L1610[17:01:00] <rockers3000> Okay

L1611[17:01:02] <gigaherz> it's important that you understand that

L1612[17:01:04] <tterrag> you can show anyone your code instantly

L1613[17:01:07] <gigaherz> because the most important git operations

L1614[17:01:07] <rockers3000> I do

L1615[17:01:07] <tterrag> and it's there if your PC blows up

L1616[17:01:09] <gigaherz> happen locally

L1617[17:01:26] <tterrag> yes

L1618[17:01:26] <gigaherz> git add, git commit, git checkout, git branch,

L1619[17:01:29] <rockers3000> You got your code in the cloud..

L1620[17:01:34] <gigaherz> are all local repository operations

L1621[17:01:39] <tterrag> "the cloud" heh

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L1623[17:01:45] <gigaherz> in order to interact with the remote repository

L1624[17:01:45] <rockers3000> So could you use Dropbox and Git. (Theoretically)

L1625[17:01:47] <tterrag> it's a server at github (well probably AWS but whatever)

L1626[17:01:50] <tterrag> not "the cloud"

L1627[17:01:53] <rockers3000> I know

L1628[17:01:53] <gigaherz> you use clone (to download a whole new copy),

L1629[17:01:55] <rockers3000> slang

L1630[17:02:00] <gigaherz> pull, to merge the remote changes with the local

L1631[17:02:06] <gigaherz> push to send the local changes to the remote

L1632[17:02:12] <rockers3000> Ok

L1633[17:02:14] <gigaherz> fetch to get remote changes without merging

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L1636[17:02:30] <illyohs> git commit -m "to commit chages"

L1637[17:02:55] <gigaherz> rockers3000: the git repository has a special protocol, it's not a general-purpose cloud

L1638[17:03:07] <rockers3000> k

L1639[17:03:12] <gigaherz> find a tutorial

L1640[17:03:15] <diesieben07> you need a storm cloud, not just any rain cloud will do

L1641[17:03:17] <gigaherz> a "getting started" page

L1642[17:03:22] <diesieben07> jokes!

L1643[17:03:25] <gigaherz> that teaches you the basics

L1644[17:03:38] <rockers3000> https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git/ ?

L1645[17:03:59] <gigaherz> that's some really basic "first steps"

L1646[17:04:07] <gigaherz> doesn't actually teach you the concepts of a git repository

L1647[17:04:18] <rockers3000> I will research it.

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L1650[17:05:38] <tterrag> rockers3000: http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Getting-Started-About-Version-Control

L1651[17:05:41] <HassanS6000> Oh, it's not my JSON. It's my shit code :D

L1652[17:05:41] <tterrag> official site docs

L1653[17:05:42] <esteth> What is the lifetime of my @Mod class? Can i assume that fields declared in my @Mod class exist only while one world is loaded, or is that dangerous?

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L1655[17:06:05] <gigaherz> esteth: the @Mod exists all the time

L1656[17:06:08] <gigaherz> from load to shutdown

L1657[17:06:17] <esteth> Ah, ok.

L1658[17:06:27] <esteth> Is there a standard-ish way of persisting some information per-world?

L1659[17:06:34] <gigaherz> yes

L1660[17:06:40] <tterrag> per save or per dimension?

L1661[17:06:43] <gigaherz> there's a worldsaveddata

L1662[17:06:51] <gigaherz> there's two types

L1663[17:06:54] <gigaherz> one that's shared

L1664[17:06:56] <gigaherz> and one per-dimension

L1665[17:07:00] <esteth> per dimension I guess, since I'm trying to save stuff during worldgen to use in other chunks

L1666[17:07:17] <esteth> Thanks, I'll look at worldsaveddata

L1667[17:07:30] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/storage/RiftStorageWorldData.java

L1668[17:07:39] <gigaherz> this is how I implemented it

L1669[17:07:41] <gigaherz> mine's global

L1670[17:07:42] <tterrag> meh, I never bothered with that :p

L1671[17:07:52] <gigaherz> the only thing you haveto change

L1672[17:07:53] <gigaherz> is

L1673[17:07:54] <gigaherz> MapStorage storage = world.mapStorage;

L1674[17:07:54] <gigaherz> to

L1675[17:07:59] <gigaherz> MapStorage storage = world.perWorldStorage;

L1676[17:08:06] <gigaherz> andthen it becomes dimension-specific

L1677[17:08:15] <gigaherz> tterrag: it's simpler than an IEEP

L1678[17:08:23] <tterrag> IEEP? blech

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L1680[17:08:41] <tterrag> https://github.com/Chisel-Team/Chisel/blob/1.7/dev-3.0/src/main/java/team/chisel/utils/PerChunkData.java

L1681[17:08:48] <tterrag> that's per chunk though, not world

L1682[17:08:58] <tterrag> not sure what esteth wants :D

L1683[17:08:58] <gigaherz> WAY simpler than that ;p

L1684[17:09:20] <esteth> I want to plot a perlin-noise line across a world consistently, so I think I want dimension-level storage.

L1685[17:09:35] <esteth> thanks guys - super useful links :)

L1686[17:09:54] <esteth> Also, mad props for chisel, tterrag :)

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L1690[17:11:58] <tterrag> I don't do it alone

L1691[17:12:00] <tterrag> but thanks :)

L1692[17:14:13] <gigaherz> yeah chisel, carpenter's blocks and the extra utilities builder's wand are any creative builder's dream

L1693[17:14:14] <gigaherz> ;P

L1694[17:20:38] <gigaherz> I think I asked in the past but

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L1696[17:20:48] <gigaherz> is there an entity "id" limit I should worry about?

L1697[17:21:07] <tterrag> for mod entities? no

L1698[17:21:12] <tterrag> and you never need global entities

L1699[17:21:13] <tterrag> so...no

L1700[17:21:16] <gigaherz> k

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L1713[17:32:05] <MGR> Hello

L1714[17:32:22] <MGR> I tested a new modpack, and it keeps crashing

L1715[17:32:36] <MGR> If I post the log in pastebin, could somebody take a look at it please?

L1716[17:32:47] <MGR> I also have a list of the mods+version#

L1717[17:32:56] <MalkContent> show the log

L1718[17:33:03] <MGR> http://pastebin.com/E3aZj8L1

L1719[17:33:18] <diesieben07> you installed a 1.8 mod on 1.7.10

L1720[17:33:21] <tterrag> ^

L1721[17:33:23] <tterrag> beat me to it

L1722[17:33:37] <MGR> Dang

L1723[17:33:40] <MGR> I'll check it out

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L1725[17:34:09] <MGR> which one is the 1.8 one?

L1726[17:34:20] <HassanS6000> Fixed it =3

L1727[17:34:23] <tterrag> malisiscore maybe? the log doesn't say

L1728[17:34:43] <MGR> alright, thanks

L1729[17:34:46] <MGR> I gtg for a bit

L1730[17:34:49] <MGR> I'll check in if that works

L1731[17:35:22] <MalkContent> how do you see that a 1.8 mod is in there?

L1732[17:35:31] <diesieben07> the FML package has changed

L1733[17:35:39] <diesieben07> one mod there is referencing the new version

L1734[17:35:41] <MalkContent> k

L1735[17:35:53] <MalkContent> gotta remember that

L1736[17:36:12] <MalkContent> all i saw was blabla coremod and the rest said nothing

L1737[17:36:21] <MalkContent> so i zoned out because coremod

L1738[17:36:25] <diesieben07> lol

L1739[17:36:43] <diesieben07> this laptop is gonna drive me nuts some da

L1740[17:36:44] <diesieben07> day

L1741[17:37:05] <diesieben07> very rarely the touchpad has a weird issue where it doesnt trakc properly anymore and clicks randomly

L1742[17:37:13] <MalkContent> until the day i finally make a coremod in order to have done it i refuse to give advise on them x)

L1743[17:37:24] <diesieben07> the fix is to ocmpletely shut the thing off remove the battery for a few secs and then reboot

L1744[17:37:38] <diesieben07> i have no idea why it happens

L1745[17:37:57] <MalkContent> wackelkontakt?

L1746[17:38:02] <diesieben07> lol

L1747[17:38:04] <MalkContent> hair under the pad

L1748[17:38:07] <diesieben07> well

L1749[17:38:12] <MalkContent> maybe moisture

L1750[17:38:20] <diesieben07> not sure how a reboot + power removal would fix it

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L1752[17:38:25] <diesieben07> also JUST a reboot is not enough

L1753[17:38:32] <diesieben07> it needs absolutely no power for a few secs

L1754[17:38:58] <diesieben07> and considering that that has fixed it consistently for like 3 times now...

L1755[17:40:01] <MalkContent> maybe theres stuff in there acting as a crappy capacitor

L1756[17:40:09] <diesieben07> maybe

L1757[17:40:30] <MalkContent> ever had some fluid on the pad?

L1758[17:40:38] <diesieben07> no

L1759[17:40:39] <diesieben07> well

L1760[17:40:46] <MalkContent> like, maybe some sugar or other trace stuff's in under there

L1761[17:40:56] <diesieben07> again i highly doubt that its that

L1762[17:41:05] <diesieben07> because it happens like a switch

L1763[17:41:09] <MattDahEpic> have you ever static shocked the pad

L1764[17:41:15] <diesieben07> no

L1765[17:41:23] <diesieben07> and once it starts i have to do the above procedure

L1766[17:41:46] <diesieben07> if it was like a capacitor thingy it would get worse over time i would think

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L1768[17:42:27] <MalkContent> *shrugs*

L1769[17:42:42] <diesieben07> :D

L1770[17:42:53] <MalkContent> not necessarily

L1771[17:42:59] <MalkContent> but who knows

L1772[17:43:11] <MalkContent> when in doubt, disassemble ^^

L1773[17:43:21] <diesieben07> meh

L1774[17:43:25] <diesieben07> it doesnt happen often enough :D

L1775[17:43:30] <diesieben07> and i know how to fix it

L1776[17:43:31] <MalkContent> if you got a mouse

L1777[17:43:39] <MalkContent> you could also just detach the pad

L1778[17:43:44] <diesieben07> well

L1779[17:43:48] <diesieben07> i do have a mouse

L1780[17:43:57] <diesieben07> but like... on a train or on the go i use the touchpad

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L1782[17:44:14] <MalkContent> the obvious answer here is to carry screwdrivers

L1783[17:44:23] <MalkContent> and reattach when needed

L1784[17:44:27] <diesieben07> lol

L1785[17:44:32] <diesieben07> or you know...

L1786[17:44:35] <diesieben07> Fn-F6

L1787[17:44:54] <MalkContent> i assume that shuts it down

L1788[17:45:11] <diesieben07> yup

L1789[17:45:35] <MalkContent> i'd probably lose my mind to a randomly clicking touchpad

L1790[17:45:47] <MalkContent> couldnt u disable it in the hardware settings?

L1791[17:46:05] <diesieben07> dude

L1792[17:46:12] <MalkContent> maybe make a keyboard accessible script on the desktop that reactivates it

L1793[17:46:12] <diesieben07> it happens like once a month

L1794[17:46:17] <MalkContent> o lol

L1795[17:46:19] <MalkContent> well

L1796[17:46:19] <diesieben07> then i shut down the laptop

L1797[17:46:24] <diesieben07> remove the battery for 10 seconds

L1798[17:46:26] <diesieben07> and its fixed

L1799[17:46:34] <MalkContent> carry on then

L1800[17:46:40] <diesieben07> its just crazy strange thats all :D

L1801[17:46:41] <MalkContent> i thought it was like once a day or something

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L1803[17:46:48] <diesieben07> nah

L1804[17:46:50] <masa> hmm, I wonder if I should start my new mod first to learn the new 1.8 rendering stuff properly before trying to clean up my main mod's 1.8 port...

L1805[17:46:51] <MGR> I think i found it

L1806[17:47:05] <MGR> I think I did OpenComputers for 1.8 instead of 1.7.10

L1807[17:47:12] <MalkContent> o yea

L1808[17:47:16] <MalkContent> i did that too

L1809[17:47:26] <MalkContent> their default dl was still for 1.7 then

L1810[17:48:24] <MGR> you guys are lifesavers

L1811[17:48:29] <MattDahEpic> is tap-to-click not the worst thing ever concieved?

L1812[17:48:55] <diesieben07> meh

L1813[17:48:58] <MalkContent> nah

L1814[17:49:02] <diesieben07> touchpads are.

L1815[17:49:12] <MalkContent> wat

L1816[17:49:23] <diesieben07> i know they are the best we got

L1817[17:49:27] <diesieben07> they still suck.

L1818[17:50:01] <diesieben07> especially when you are used to a beauty like this: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx

L1819[17:50:50] <MalkContent> mm

L1820[17:50:54] <MalkContent> can't beat logitech

L1821[17:50:54] <tterrag> G502 master race

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L1823[17:51:19] <diesieben07> oh god please no

L1824[17:51:26] <MalkContent> when my g9 got a wackelkontakt in its second year

L1825[17:51:28] <diesieben07> i hate gaming mice

L1826[17:51:35] <MalkContent> they sent me a replacement g9x for free

L1827[17:51:41] <tterrag> I don't use most of its functions for gaming lol

L1828[17:51:47] <tterrag> it's a genuinely good all around mouse

L1829[17:52:06] <diesieben07> it just looks like it feels like shit in my hand

L1830[17:52:11] <MalkContent> can't beat logitech in customer support

L1831[17:52:18] <diesieben07> all these sharp edges

L1832[17:52:41] <MGR> diesieben07, MalkContent, and tterrag, thank you so much!

L1833[17:52:44] <MGR> my modpack works now!

L1834[17:52:46] <MalkContent> dude

L1835[17:52:50] <MalkContent> i just said "post the log"

L1836[17:52:54] <MalkContent> :D

L1837[17:52:57] <MGR> you still helped :P

L1838[17:53:01] <tterrag> diesieben07: it's the best feeling mouse I've ever had

L1839[17:53:03] <tterrag> no lie

L1840[17:53:06] <tterrag> but meh :P

L1841[17:53:11] <MGR> I have a BMW/Thermaltake mouse

L1842[17:53:14] <diesieben07> so is my performance MX :D

L1843[17:53:18] <MalkContent> i love my g9 :P

L1844[17:53:33] <MGR> BMW, "We only make one thing, the ultimate (insert whatever we market here) machine"

L1845[17:53:39] <MalkContent> best claw grip mouse i ever had

L1846[17:53:51] <MGR> In my case: BMW, "We only make one thing, the ultimate gaming machine"

L1847[17:53:53] <diesieben07> which i secretly hope will break soon (its not gonna... my old one lasted a year and still worked after i spilled milk over it, now i gave it to my brother)

L1848[17:53:54] <MattDahEpic> i got a razer nomstromo and its good

L1849[17:53:59] <diesieben07> so that i can get the mx master :D

L1850[17:54:13] <MalkContent> :D

L1851[17:54:15] <MattDahEpic> logitech things never break

L1852[17:54:16] <MalkContent> dont get your hopes up

L1853[17:54:20] <diesieben07> yeah

L1854[17:54:21] <MalkContent> logitech doesnt brake

L1855[17:54:35] <MalkContent> i even welded up the wackelkontakt on my g9 and its my laptop mouse now

L1856[17:54:39] <MattDahEpic> ive had a logitech crap keyboard for like 8 years

L1857[17:54:43] <Cazzar> I have broke a g700

L1858[17:54:44] <MattDahEpic> and it wont die

L1859[17:54:50] <MalkContent> and i still got my super old cordless mouseman optical

L1860[17:54:51] <diesieben07> cant beat cherry with keyboards though :d

L1861[17:55:02] <MalkContent> its so used up the rubber at the thumb is completely gone

L1862[17:55:21] <MalkContent> as is the color of the mouse buttons

L1863[17:55:32] <MalkContent> still works

L1864[17:56:44] <MalkContent> it's burried somewhere in the cellar with an old pc i told myself i would set up as a server some day

L1865[17:57:02] <MalkContent> the mouse is burried there because i have an irrational fear of the immortals

L1866[17:57:14] <diesieben07> lol

L1867[17:57:35] <diesieben07> i have that pc too, butits probably a bit toooo old

L1868[17:57:40] <diesieben07> it has some crappy amd athlon in it

L1869[17:57:40] <MalkContent> yea

L1870[17:57:42] <diesieben07> iirc

L1871[17:57:45] <MalkContent> xD yeaaa

L1872[17:57:54] <diesieben07> probably still good as a file server though

L1873[17:57:54] <MalkContent> it's my teenager pc

L1874[17:58:16] <MalkContent> i'd probably rather set up a raspberry pie and save on electricity P:

L1875[17:58:29] <diesieben07> true :D

L1876[17:58:44] <diesieben07> probably has the same computing power :D

L1877[17:59:14] <MalkContent> that freaking mouse survived 7 freaking years of an incredibly cs obsessed teenager

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L1879[17:59:15] <MalkContent> damn

L1880[17:59:32] <MalkContent> i think i have to go down there and stake it just to make sure

L1881[17:59:45] <diesieben07> haha

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L1883[18:00:56] <MattDahEpic> for some reason i have a rack server at my house, but no racks

L1884[18:01:15] <diesieben07> wat

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L1887[18:01:57] <MattDahEpic> work was upgrading servers so i asked and got an old wiped one and its just... here

L1888[18:02:02] <diesieben07> haha

L1889[18:02:07] <diesieben07> is it decent?

L1890[18:02:44] <MattDahEpic> its got 2 xeons and 360gb of drive

L1891[18:04:29] <MattDahEpic> and no os

L1892[18:04:45] <rockers3000> Hello

L1893[18:04:48] <diesieben07> well no os is not an issue is it

L1894[18:05:37] <MattDahEpic> no os isnt as much of a problem of the 2 wall outlets and power bill it eats

L1895[18:05:50] <diesieben07> yeah

L1896[18:06:02] <Cazzar> I kind would love to get my hands on a massive fileserver.

L1897[18:06:04] <diesieben07> i wouldnt even know what to do with a server

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L1899[18:06:12] <diesieben07> it would be fun, but i have no use for it :D

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L1901[18:06:27] <rockers3000> How long does GitHub take to show new commits?

L1902[18:06:40] <diesieben07> no time at all

L1903[18:06:41] <MattDahEpic> rockers3000, usually instant if they're pushed

L1904[18:06:42] <gigaherz> 0s

L1905[18:06:43] <shadowfacts> you have to push your commits to GH

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L1907[18:06:53] <gigaherz> assuming you actually did push them

L1908[18:06:53] <rockers3000> I have done

L1909[18:06:54] <gigaherz> XD

L1910[18:06:57] <Cazzar> rockers3000 when you push, almost instsnt.

L1911[18:08:16] <rockers3000> It hasn't shown up on the website. Last time I pushed (around 10 mins ago) it took about 2 mins.

L1912[18:08:18] <rockers3000> For a readme

L1913[18:08:31] <rockers3000> Oh

L1914[18:08:34] <rockers3000> It just did it

L1915[18:08:35] <rockers3000> the now

L1916[18:09:08] <rockers3000> https://github.com/Mr-Rockers/satanicOfferings.git

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L1918[18:10:16] <rockers3000> Is that a valid gh? xD

L1919[18:11:24] <MattDahEpic> for the actual .git file, yes

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L1921[18:11:52] <MattDahEpic> it would be https://github.com/Mr-Rockers/SatanicOfferings for the web

L1922[18:12:07] <rockers3000> Ok

L1923[18:12:19] <rockers3000> It redirects to the same place anyway

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L1931[18:17:52] <Rockers> Is it a good idea to have my whole eclipse project on the GH?

L1932[18:18:00] <TehNut> no

L1933[18:18:11] <Rockers> I just put my com files in there..

L1934[18:18:16] <TehNut> Just src/, gradle/, and the buildscript files

L1935[18:18:30] <MattDahEpic> use the gitignore that comes with forge

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L1938[18:24:44] <SatanicSanta> So what exactly is the proposed usage of getEntityId()? I read somewhere that it's not unique at all, and shouldn't really be used as an identifier.

L1939[18:25:12] <MattDahEpic> its unique per world i think

L1940[18:26:44] <SatanicSanta> I read that it changes each time the world is loaded

L1941[18:27:28] <Rockers> I'm guessing it's for testing unique entities at runtime?

L1942[18:27:29] <masa> yeah, I believe you can use it to recognize entities per-world and per world instance... it is not persistent, if you need that, then use the UUID

L1943[18:28:44] <masa> ie. no two entities will have the same ID at the same time, but I think they can be reused after an entity unloads? or does it count to integer max, which probably won't be hit very often...

L1944[18:28:58] <SatanicSanta> hm, okay.

L1945[18:29:18] <masa> and in the same world that is

L1946[18:29:36] <diesieben07> its for networking, thats all, really

L1947[18:29:44] <SatanicSanta> I ask because there's an issue where some features that effect player movement primarily are randomly "turning off", and never "turn on" again until the world reloads. The code looks perfectly fine aside from the fact that we use getEntityId as identifiers in storing player location and whether they are jumping

L1948[18:29:58] <Rockers> I know why my GH was taking a while to "commit"

L1949[18:30:11] <SatanicSanta> I'm thinking perhaps using a different identifier might be a solution to the problem, but I'm completely lost with this problem.

L1950[18:30:16] <Rockers> Whenever I press commit, I then have to sync..

L1951[18:30:26] <Cazzar> Correct

L1952[18:31:01] <Cazzar> Due to the de-centralized manner of git, commits are local to your "clone" until you push/sync

L1953[18:31:02] <masa> SatanicSanta: well that ID probably changes every time the player uses a portal for example

L1954[18:31:06] <diesieben07> SatanicSanta, define "identifiers".if you want to store additional data on a player you should be using IExtendedEntityProperties

L1955[18:31:23] <SatanicSanta> diesieben07: We are storing info /about/ the player, not /on/ the player

L1956[18:31:35] <diesieben07> that is what i meant :D

L1957[18:31:47] <diesieben07> stuff like "player has X experience points" etc

L1958[18:31:50] <diesieben07> thats what you use IEEP for

L1959[18:33:08] <SatanicSanta> Honestly, for most of my purposes, basic NBT is typically a simpler solution than IEEP. Is there any actual reason to use IEEP over NBT, because I haven't seen any

L1960[18:33:26] <diesieben07> NBT is a storage format. for saving to disk

L1961[18:33:40] <diesieben07> it doesnt allow you to do anything abotu storing stuff about the player

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L1963[18:34:04] <diesieben07> and IEEP saves to NBT as well

L1964[18:34:41] <Rockers> I think I once saw a tutorial that created an ItemStack in order to save random NBT stuff...

L1965[18:35:16] <diesieben07> wat

L1966[18:35:21] <SatanicSanta> lmao

L1967[18:35:23] <masa> :D

L1968[18:35:31] <Rockers> It was messy af

L1969[18:35:33] <SatanicSanta> Rockers: why the hell would you even want to do that

L1970[18:35:42] <Rockers> I swear I saw it once

L1971[18:35:43] <masa> there your average "tutorial" with their glorious quality information :p

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L1973[18:38:07] <gigaherz> "tutorial"

L1974[18:38:14] <gigaherz> some ofthem shoudl be called "Misinformational"

L1975[18:38:27] <SatanicSanta> diesieben07: The code in question doesn't actually save any entity information in either NBT or IEEP. It just takes their data that we would store, and shove it (typically) in a hash or array or something.

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L1977[18:38:53] <diesieben07> exactly

L1978[18:38:56] <diesieben07> thats what you use IEEP for.

L1979[18:39:16] <diesieben07> "remember this data for this player"

L1980[18:39:18] <diesieben07> thats IEEP

L1981[18:39:32] <diesieben07> whether you later save it to disk (which IEEP *can* do for you) or not doesnt matter.

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L1984[18:40:57] <SatanicSanta> diesieben07: I don't understand what makes it superior for this over NBT. It doesn't save it automatically, which in pretty much all of my cases I want to do.

L1985[18:41:00] <Rockers> Why don't you create a magic dirt block with all your NBT needs! :D

L1986[18:41:06] <SatanicSanta> lmao

L1987[18:41:19] <diesieben07> Nothing saves automatically

L1988[18:41:24] <SatanicSanta> And still, I presume that since the entity ID changes a lot, I should be using something more constant and unique?

L1989[18:41:49] <diesieben07> also i have no idea what you mean by "NBT"

L1990[18:41:56] <SatanicSanta> getentitydata

L1991[18:42:01] <diesieben07> ohgodno

L1992[18:42:05] <diesieben07> thats the old version of IEEP

L1993[18:42:11] <diesieben07> just use IEEP :D

L1994[18:42:15] <SatanicSanta> Why is it not deprecated? ...

L1995[18:42:24] <diesieben07> heck doi know

L1996[18:42:32] <diesieben07> but its clumsy and ugly

L1997[18:42:37] <SatanicSanta> hm

L1998[18:42:57] <SatanicSanta> Thankfully I only wrote some things using it in this particular mod in a branch, and only 2 or 3 times

L1999[18:43:00] <SatanicSanta> Switch should be painless

L2000[18:45:11] <SatanicSanta> Anyway, onto those IDs. The current system for one of the problematic works like so: player location is saved in a HashMap containing an integer (getEntityId()) as a key, and a MutablePair of their X and Y coordinates as the value.

L2001[18:45:40] <SatanicSanta> Currently, this particular item randomly 'disables itself'. Since the code is seemingly fine, I'm thinking that using the entityId is incorrect

L2002[18:45:47] <SatanicSanta> And that perhasp something more unique and constant should be used

L2003[18:46:24] <diesieben07> no

L2004[18:46:29] <diesieben07> the fix is to use IEEP :p

L2005[18:46:46] <SatanicSanta> hrm

L2006[18:46:52] <SatanicSanta> I'm trying to think of an instance where an IEEP would not work

L2007[18:46:58] <diesieben07> there is none :P

L2008[18:47:07] <Rockers> Why not both?

L2009[18:47:39] <SatanicSanta> Okay, I guess I'll set up a branch to port our eventhandler code to use IEEP instead of all these arrays and hashes

L2010[18:50:17] <MattDahEpic> its been almost a month since i offered up https://github.com/MinecraftForge/Documentation/pull/27 and i think it should be merged

L2011[18:53:22] <Rockers> What function should I use to check if an entity is within a block (of water)?

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L2013[18:54:47] <gigaherz> Rockers: entity.isInWater / entity.isInLava / entity.isInsideOpaqueblock

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L2015[18:55:17] <Rockers> Ok, thanks

L2016[18:55:31] <gigaherz> if you need an arbitrary block, you'd have to check coords

L2017[18:56:30] <Rockers> would I be able to use updateTick in BlockWater

L2018[18:56:44] <Rockers> Oh no

L2019[18:57:03] <Rockers> That's only for sheduled ticks.

L2020[19:00:24] <Rockers> nvm

L2021[19:00:31] <Rockers> Just checked, you can use updateTick()

L2022[19:01:58] <gigaherz> are you trying to modify the water itself?

L2023[19:02:07] <Rockers> No, I'm creating a custom fluid

L2024[19:02:11] <gigaherz> ah

L2025[19:02:21] <Rockers> I don't like the way Minecraft's is

L2026[19:02:21] <gigaherz> then you have onEntityCollidedWithBlock

L2027[19:02:32] <gigaherz> which tells you when another entity is inside your block

L2028[19:02:41] <Rockers> Does that count even if the entity stays inside a block?

L2029[19:02:45] <gigaherz> yes

L2030[19:02:47] <Rockers> Ah

L2031[19:02:49] <gigaherz> every tick

L2032[19:02:56] <gigaherz> I use it in my dust block

L2033[19:03:00] <gigaherz> to slow down the player

L2034[19:03:02] <Rockers> I thought it only counted if the player enters the block

L2035[19:03:22] <Rockers> I'm too used to taking things literally.

L2036[19:03:23] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/blocks/BlockCushion.java#L39

L2037[19:03:37] <gigaherz> yeah you always have to remember the names are given by modders

L2038[19:03:40] <gigaherz> they are not official

L2039[19:03:47] <Rockers> Ok

L2040[19:03:47] <gigaherz> many are inaccurate

L2041[19:03:51] <Rockers> Welp, thanks!

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L2043[19:06:10] <GhostfromTexas> hola

L2044[19:06:35] <gigaherz> halo

L2045[19:06:48] <Rockers> Bonjour

L2046[19:07:47] <GhostfromTexas> salut!

L2047[19:08:14] <Rockers> Ca va?

L2048[19:08:20] <Rockers> (jk)

L2049[19:09:32] <Rockers> Mon francais est n'est pas bon.

L2050[19:09:43] <GhostfromTexas> hehe

L2051[19:09:48] <Rockers> So I speak in Anglais

L2052[19:09:51] <Rockers> Hello

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L2055[19:14:09] <SatanicSanta> the funky bilinguals

L2056[19:14:38] <Rockers> Barely

L2057[19:15:20] <Rockers> I know the albatross song en francais.

L2058[19:15:48] <Rockers> "Merde ce cette petit souris; Je suis un albatross."

L2059[19:16:00] <Rockers> *sur cette

L2060[19:16:17] <SatanicSanta> I speak what I coined today as "Spanglishalog"

L2061[19:16:33] <SatanicSanta> spanish, english, and tagalog mixed together.

L2062[19:16:48] <Rockers> Tagalong?

L2063[19:16:53] <Rockers> *alog

L2064[19:17:21] <SatanicSanta> Rockers: The main dialect of the language of the philippines

L2065[19:17:24] <Rockers> A

L2066[19:17:26] <Rockers> *Ah

L2067[19:17:31] <Rockers> I just googled it.

L2068[19:17:33] <Rockers> That's cool

L2069[19:17:55] <SatanicSanta> I don't know nearly as much as I'd like to of that particular language, though :(

L2070[19:18:34] <SatanicSanta> diesieben07: I don't think using an IEEP instead of hashes with getEntityId will actually resolve this problem. Turns out the problem doesn't specifically happen when the player changes dimensions, which according to someone, is an instance where getEntityId changes.

L2071[19:18:59] <diesieben07> you should still switch

L2072[19:19:09] <diesieben07> using getEntiyId for this is a bad idea

L2073[19:19:12] <SatanicSanta> Yeah I'm going to. It's just probably not a solution to this problem.

L2074[19:19:44] <SatanicSanta> What's shitty is this bug is so fucking awful to reproduce. It happens completely randomly, and sometimes doesn't even occur for hours.

L2075[19:19:59] <SatanicSanta> and as a result it's been open for like a year

L2076[19:20:05] <Rockers> What is it

L2077[19:20:15] <SatanicSanta> https://github.com/Esteemed-Innovation/Flaxbeards-Steam-Power/issues/175

L2078[19:20:23] <SatanicSanta> Some exosuit upgrades stop working randomly

L2079[19:20:45] <Rockers> Is it mod clashes?

L2080[19:21:14] <SatanicSanta> I originally thought that, but looking at the person's modlist the only ones that struck out were Optifine and Galacticraft. However it happens without either of those, so nope.

L2081[19:21:42] <Rockers> People are saying that sever restarts seem to fix the issue...

L2082[19:21:57] <Rockers> Something to do with a temporary variable or something..

L2083[19:22:03] <SatanicSanta> And other people have said removing/replacing the armor fixes it too

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L2086[19:23:25] <Rockers> Have you updated forge?

L2087[19:23:39] <SatanicSanta> pretty sure we're using recommended 1.7.10

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L2091[19:24:02] <SatanicSanta> 1.7.10-10.13.4.1448-1.7.10

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L2094[19:24:13] <Rockers> Look through the bug-list for the recommended forge and see if anything resembles your problem.

L2095[19:24:20] <Rockers> Maybe?

L2096[19:24:32] <Rockers> I'm not altogether too sure...

L2097[19:24:57] <gigaherz> it's nnoaying that there's a "recommended" build for 1.7.10 so much older than the latest

L2098[19:25:13] <gigaherz> it's not like if the latest one had any known regressions

L2099[19:25:21] <Rockers> I'm going off just now...

L2100[19:25:26] <Rockers> See you guys tommorow/

L2101[19:25:27] <killjoy1> recommended was updated recently

L2102[19:25:33] <killjoy1> Wasn't it?

L2103[19:25:43] <gigaherz> ah it was!

L2104[19:25:50] <gigaherz> it's 1558 now

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L2107[19:26:50] <LexManos> diesieben07, you there?

L2108[19:27:04] <diesieben07> i am here,

L2109[19:27:11] <SatanicSanta> Well the user testing it is using 1566 so that's not the issue.

L2110[19:27:37] <LexManos> when you ban spambots from the forums, don't ban ALL of their IPs, it just pollutes the ban log with needless proxy ips that dont actually get anything except users.

L2111[19:29:17] <diesieben07> uhhm, ok sure

L2112[19:29:34] <LexManos> Also any idea why a banned person can still report posts?

L2113[19:29:44] <LexManos> fucker is spamming my email now -.-

L2114[19:29:59] <diesieben07> that guy with the "where is my post" shit?

L2115[19:30:12] <diesieben07> i perma banned him today because he handed in another report

L2116[19:30:45] <diesieben07> also about those ip bans, i always just click "ban this user" and use the default options, which i just checked dont include any IPs

L2117[19:32:25] <LexManos> then who is banning IPs.. {Really wish the forums would tag WHO added the ban -.-}

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L2119[19:34:21] <SatanicSanta> LexManos: At least your forums don't require you to hit back 3 damn times to actually go to the previous page

L2120[19:34:27] * SatanicSanta grumbles about mcf

L2121[19:34:31] <killjoy1> phpbb?

L2122[19:34:51] <killjoy1> ipboard is the best

L2123[19:34:55] <tterrag> you still use mcf? I thought we collectively jumped ship when curseforge became usable

L2124[19:35:13] <Ordinastie> actually, the editor kinda works now

L2125[19:35:24] <shadowfacts> ^

L2126[19:35:26] <Ordinastie> took the time

L2127[19:35:32] <SatanicSanta> tterrag: I avoid it, but I still have a thread on there that isn't very active, and ocassionally it has useful things

L2128[19:35:33] <tterrag> kinda works?

L2129[19:35:40] <tterrag> as in, it won't completely ruin my post every time I go to edit it?

L2130[19:35:43] <shadowfacts> I hang around in the mod dev section now, mostly because it amuses me

L2131[19:35:46] <Ordinastie> tterrag, yes

L2132[19:35:56] <SatanicSanta> What about copypasting?

L2133[19:35:57] <tterrag> interesting

L2134[19:36:05] <tterrag> well, I've still stopped using it

L2135[19:36:10] <tterrag> I don't post mods there any more

L2136[19:36:16] <tterrag> I keep up on my existing threads and that's it

L2137[19:36:19] <diesieben07> lex, did you remove the ip bans? because i dont see any.

L2138[19:36:24] <Ordinastie> but that's the best front you can get though

L2139[19:36:36] <SatanicSanta> It's still completely unusable on ios safari :D

L2140[19:36:38] <tterrag> is it really?

L2141[19:36:53] <Ordinastie> tterrag, what else?

L2142[19:37:07] <SatanicSanta> It shows me a nice black banner at the top, and 1/4 of the logo, and that's it.

L2143[19:37:10] <tterrag> curseforge?

L2144[19:37:11] <SatanicSanta> really nice feature they have there

L2145[19:37:33] <Ordinastie> to store your mods yes, but you don't really get any visibility

L2146[19:37:54] <tterrag> sure you do

L2147[19:37:57] <tterrag> it's easily browsable

L2148[19:38:09] <SatanicSanta> if your mod is either brand new or has 100000 downloads already

L2149[19:38:20] <LexManos> no they are still there

L2150[19:38:26] <LexManos> there are tons of them in the ban logs

L2151[19:38:41] <gigaherz> Ordinastie: I stopped browsing any other side after curse mc became a thing

L2152[19:38:48] <gigaherz> these days I only search for mods in the curse site

L2153[19:38:54] <gigaherz> it's clean and "just works"

L2154[19:39:03] <gigaherz> so I assume a lot of people also go there

L2155[19:39:41] <diesieben07> then i dont understand this. because in the Ban List there are just triggers on usrname and email. not iP

L2156[19:40:00] <Ordinastie> I'm pretty sure there are far more people browsing MCF than cruse

L2157[19:40:18] <tterrag> maybe so

L2158[19:40:25] <tterrag> if I do make an MCF post it'll likely just be a passthrough to CF

L2159[19:40:39] <Ordinastie> of course

L2160[19:40:42] <Ordinastie> that's what I do too

L2161[19:40:42] <diesieben07> actually

L2162[19:40:52] <LexManos> http://puu.sh/lES2E/6d75a63b89.png

L2163[19:40:59] <Ordinastie> but you can't really make a pretty post in curse

L2164[19:41:03] <diesieben07> lex, that spam is not due to IP bans. it lists every attempt

L2165[19:41:14] <Ordinastie> and it's really bad if you want to communicate with your users

L2166[19:41:14] <diesieben07> so if a banned dude tries to enter the forum 20 times, it makes 20 entries

L2167[19:41:19] <LexManos> Is it?

L2168[19:41:22] <diesieben07> yup

L2169[19:41:25] <LexManos> Thats annoying but okay.

L2170[19:41:30] <diesieben07> "The ban log shows all attempts to enter the forum by banned users ('full ban' and 'cannot register' ban only)."

L2171[19:41:31] <LexManos> Wisht here was a way to search that log

L2172[19:41:44] <LexManos> meh tired, bah

L2173[19:41:57] <diesieben07> took me this long to find that, too, so dw

L2174[19:42:03] <LexManos> Oh look I should of read up u.u

L2175[19:42:08] <tterrag> Ordinastie: CurseForge can have pretty posts

L2176[19:42:10] <tterrag> what do you mean?

L2177[19:42:25] <shadowfacts> hmm, I should make a Chrome extension for regex find...

L2178[19:42:30] <LexManos> We should find a way to perge the ban list

L2179[19:42:31] * shadowfacts wonders how hard that'd be

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L2181[19:42:31] <Mimiru> %sed enable

L2182[19:42:47] <LexManos> if it has 0 hits in >180 days then remove from the list

L2183[19:43:19] <LexManos> Problem with that shadow is that it seperates the list into pages so you dont get the full data

L2184[19:43:53] <shadowfacts> is there an api?

L2185[19:44:26] <shadowfacts> or could just build a bot to scrape the webpage...

L2186[19:44:57] <Ordinastie> tterrag, you don't mean the "description" part for your mod I hope

L2187[19:44:58] <diesieben07> all just to keep your list of idiots tidy

L2188[19:45:09] <illyohs> is forge forum simple machines?

L2189[19:45:13] <diesieben07> yea

L2190[19:45:21] <tterrag> Ordinastie: it's full bbcode

L2191[19:45:23] <tterrag> why wouldn't I mean that?

L2192[19:45:26] <illyohs> ahh

L2193[19:45:45] <shadowfacts> well, diesieben07, it is a very big list

L2194[19:45:59] <diesieben07> what i mean is...

L2195[19:46:12] <diesieben07> it sucks to life in a world where you have to spend so much efforts on idiots

L2196[19:46:24] <shadowfacts> yeah...

L2197[19:46:26] <Ordinastie> tterrag, because it works as much as MCF editor used to work

L2198[19:46:33] <tterrag> no, it's much better

L2199[19:46:34] * LexManos mutters thats the entire point of Minecraft right?

L2200[19:46:39] <tterrag> I've never once had it scrap my post when I tried to edit

L2201[19:46:46] <diesieben07> lol

L2202[19:46:54] <tterrag> like MCF did

L2203[19:46:55] <tterrag> many times

L2204[19:47:03] <shadowfacts> heh

L2205[19:47:18] <LexManos> So... to order food and then get back to cracking FG.

L2206[19:47:22] <Ordinastie> well, show me your mod then, or a pretty post on there because I never saw one

L2207[19:47:26] <LexManos> or.. to go back to bed cuz I feel like crap

L2208[19:48:14] <Ordinastie> as a matter of fact, colors don't even work

L2209[19:49:03] * shadowfacts grumbles about 1.8.8 decomp not working even with 5 GB of RAM allocated

L2210[19:49:31] <LexManos> it should, works fine with 3GB on my machine...

L2211[19:49:36] * diesieben07 throws ram sticks at shadowfacts

L2212[19:49:45] <tterrag> Ordinastie: http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/creatubbles

L2213[19:49:49] <tterrag> pretty simple but effective

L2214[19:50:01] <shadowfacts> works fine for everybody else, but it still fails for me

L2215[19:50:23] <tterrag> and color works fine

L2216[19:50:41] <GhostfromTexas> dood lex.. be my artist

L2217[19:50:49] <GhostfromTexas> :P

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L2219[19:52:24] <Ordinastie> tterrag, yeah, that like reaaaally basic

L2220[19:52:29] <tterrag> it is

L2221[19:52:36] <shadowfacts> it's not even failing with "Java heap space", with 5 GB it's failing with "GC overhead limit reached"

L2222[19:52:49] <LexManos> i know

L2223[19:52:52] <diesieben07> that basically means the same thing

L2224[19:53:07] <tterrag> Ordinastie: http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/super-massive-tech

L2225[19:53:07] <diesieben07> nto really but it comes out to have similar causes

L2226[19:53:17] <tterrag> thsi one looked better back when I had it on MCF, but I did the CF version quickly

L2227[19:53:24] <LexManos> you know shadow

L2228[19:53:25] <tterrag> I could improve it further

L2229[19:53:31] <Ordinastie> and no, colors are not working

L2230[19:53:37] <LexManos> what would be awesome is if you could throw us a profile of FF decompiling MC.

L2231[19:53:47] <Ordinastie> they seem to work in editor, but it's still black on the page

L2232[19:53:53] <LexManos> FF has all the test structure setup so you just need to supply it with the MC jar and run a unit test

L2233[19:54:01] <tterrag> Ordinastie: I guess you're right

L2234[19:54:06] <tterrag> have you submitted a bug report for that?

L2235[19:54:15] <Ordinastie> and that what I need : http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/2076338

L2236[19:54:30] <Ordinastie> I didn't because I don't really care, I don't use it for that

L2237[19:54:56] <Thutmose> what would be causing this to spam in console? http://pastebin.com/dUDpDaqc I assume it is something I am doing wrong.

L2238[19:55:28] <Ordinastie> also, you can't honnestly say that the Comments section is better than an actual forum thread to communicate with users

L2239[19:55:41] <diesieben07> Thutmose, thats known. https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/issues/1848

L2240[19:56:01] <Thutmose> ahh good, so not something I did?

L2241[19:56:16] <diesieben07> no

L2242[19:57:44] <tterrag> LOL https://github.com/netty/netty/issues/2302#issuecomment-133295788

L2243[19:57:52] <tterrag> our good pal

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L2245[19:58:31] <diesieben07> well he has a point

L2246[19:59:06] <shadowfacts> lol

L2247[19:59:12] <SatanicSanta> lmao

L2248[19:59:37] <LexManos> he does yes, but clienthax is a twatnugget

L2249[19:59:53] <diesieben07> haha, i need to remember that insult

L2250[19:59:55] <shadowfacts> alright, LexManos, all try that tomorrow

L2251[19:59:57] <LexManos> I wonder, does netty go through a transformer...

L2252[20:00:11] <illyohs> heh twatnugget im going to steal that and say its my own

L2253[20:00:13] <tterrag> well, he did help you debug that issue

L2254[20:00:17] <tterrag> so he can't be all bad, right? :P

L2255[20:00:33] <tterrag> he definitely has a point though, what's the point of milestones if you just push it off every time

L2256[20:00:46] <tterrag> once? fine. 7 times? ehhh

L2257[20:00:57] <Ordinastie> just set to milestone "whenever"

L2258[20:00:59] <tterrag> brb

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L2260[20:01:07] <tterrag|away> Ordinastie: that's called "not having a milestone"

L2261[20:01:08] <tterrag|away> >.>

L2262[20:01:10] <diesieben07> no no

L2263[20:01:19] <diesieben07> real people use "soon™"

L2264[20:01:24] <shadowfacts> ^

L2265[20:03:15] <LexManos> The point of milestones is to have a set of releases

L2266[20:03:22] <LexManos> that isnt the only thing they are working on

L2267[20:03:44] <LexManos> as to why they are bumping its more of a 'fuck we cant figure this bug out'

L2268[20:03:49] <LexManos> then a 'we dont care about thsi bug'

L2269[20:04:42] <SatanicSanta> 16 milestone bumps is quite a bit, though.

L2270[20:04:50] <SatanicSanta> After the 4th why not just take it out of a milestone?

L2271[20:06:32] <LexManos> because that takes it off the 'we're working on it' and puts it on the 'fuck it' shelf

L2272[20:06:50] <SatanicSanta> fair

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L2275[20:16:09] <SatanicSanta> is it possible to store mutablepairs in an nbt tag list? The way it works, I'm thinking no, but I'm very much not sure.

L2276[20:16:19] <diesieben07> sure

L2277[20:16:44] <diesieben07> make an NBTTagCompound per pair, "left" points to whatever the left is, "right" to whtever the right is

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L2280[20:21:54] <SatanicSanta> diesieben07: Something along the lines of https://paste.ee/p/frfPV ?

L2281[20:22:20] <diesieben07> yup

L2282[20:23:01] <SatanicSanta> uh, there doesnt seem to be a setter for tag lists

L2283[20:23:08] <diesieben07> setTag

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L2291[20:35:55] <Mimiru> Any idea why my GUI's keyTyped would randomly stop getting called?

L2292[20:36:14] <Mimiru> In the middle of typing and suddenly nothing

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L2294[20:47:57] <hipsterpig> did you set the keyboard to repeat events?

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L2300[21:01:32] <Mimiru> Ok.. now as I tried to say before my computer hardlocked.

L2301[21:01:46] <Mimiru> hipsterpig, yes, in my initgui I set repeat events

L2302[21:06:10] <Mimiru> org.lwjgl.input.Keyboard.enableRepeatEvents(true);

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L2305[21:08:44] <Mimiru> Sometimes it works without issue, then just randomly all keyTyped calls just stop.

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L2310[21:12:13] <MattDahEpic> whats the best way to find all loaded mods with a dependency on a specific mod?

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L2316[21:27:04] <SatanicSanta> Each entity instance (ie player1 player2 player3 etc) has its own IEEP instance, right?

L2317[21:27:16] <killjoy1> You mean UUID?

L2318[21:27:24] <SatanicSanta> not exactly

L2319[21:27:50] <killjoy1> I'm not sure what that is

L2320[21:27:59] <SatanicSanta> IExtendedEntityProperties

L2321[21:28:14] <gigaherz> SatanicSanta: you register them

L2322[21:28:21] <gigaherz> so only entities you give it to, will have the IEEP

L2323[21:28:28] <gigaherz> entityconstructingevent

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L2325[21:28:35] <gigaherz> that's where you add the IEEP in the entities you want one

L2326[21:28:35] <SatanicSanta> Yeah I have that

L2327[21:28:52] <gigaherz> so ifyou do that on ALL entities, then every single entity will have one

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L2329[21:28:54] <SatanicSanta> But do I need a separate identifier for each player, basically

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L2331[21:29:16] <SatanicSanta> or to set the player's uuid (or whatever it is) in the extendedplayer's fields

L2332[21:29:21] <SatanicSanta> ie using hashes

L2333[21:29:33] <SatanicSanta> I'm probably way overthinking this

L2334[21:29:35] <gigaherz> do you need those "identifiers" to be unique globally or just per session?

L2335[21:30:05] <gigaherz> also what purpose do they have that can't be achieved by other means?

L2336[21:30:20] <SatanicSanta> I'm not doing a good job at explaining this question

L2337[21:30:35] <gigaherz> maybe if you explain what you are trying to do

L2338[21:30:41] <gigaherz> we will be able to guide you to the right solution

L2339[21:30:47] <SatanicSanta> When I register the ieep, I don't have to ues a separate identifier for each different player, using their uuid, right?

L2340[21:30:55] <gigaherz> no

L2341[21:30:59] <SatanicSanta> okay, cool

L2342[21:31:18] <gigaherz> the "id" you use on registration is something oyu use to distinguish your IEEPs from other mods' ieeps

L2343[21:31:24] <SatanicSanta> right

L2344[21:31:37] <gigaherz> or between different IEEPs of a single mod

L2345[21:32:22] <SatanicSanta> Thanks

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L2347[21:34:39] <gigaherz> does java have some sort of @UsedDynamically annotation that lets the IDE know a method is not really unused?

L2348[21:35:32] <kashike> most IDEs do

L2349[21:35:50] <TehNut> If you use the lightbulb thing, you can suppress the warning

L2350[21:36:08] <gigaherz> I don't see that choice in IDEA

L2351[21:36:09] <gigaherz> ;P

L2352[21:36:22] <SatanicSanta> gigaherz: http://puu.sh/lEYOt/55fe2f545f.png

L2353[21:36:28] <TehNut> ^

L2354[21:36:42] <gigaherz> yes that one I used

L2355[21:36:42] <SatanicSanta> gigaherz: That is in IntelliJ IDEA 15

L2356[21:36:45] <gigaherz> this doens't have an annotation

L2357[21:36:53] <gigaherz> so I'd have to make my own, then

L2358[21:36:58] <SatanicSanta> ah, yeah

L2359[21:39:36] <gigaherz> there @UsedAtRuntime

L2360[21:39:37] <gigaherz> ;P

L2361[21:40:20] <kashike> or use the comment

L2362[21:41:05] <gigaherz> I jsut hada facepalm moment

L2363[21:41:10] <gigaherz> I blame IDEA though

L2364[21:41:11] <gigaherz> @SuppressWarnings("unused")

L2365[21:41:15] <SatanicSanta> lmao

L2366[21:42:18] <gigaherz> hmm although that has a flaw: it disables the warning for the whole scope, not just the item

L2367[21:42:26] <gigaherz> like, if applied to a class, removes the warning for the whole class

L2368[21:43:42] <SatanicSanta> Time to test this new IEEP :)

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L2370[21:44:58] <SatanicSanta> I believe I tried using an IEEP a long time ago, but never really went anywhere with it.

L2371[21:45:05] <SatanicSanta> It's actually surprisingly simple.

L2372[21:45:49] <MattDahEpic> every time someone says IEEP i imagine a animal mating call: "IEEP! IEEP! IEEP!"

L2373[21:46:34] <killjoy1> I think ieee 1394

L2374[21:47:06] <MattDahEpic> i never really liked the dark IDEA theme...

L2375[21:47:16] <williewillus> wat^

L2376[21:47:24] <gigaherz> I do

L2377[21:47:28] <gigaherz> well

L2378[21:47:33] <gigaherz> I like it more than the default one

L2379[21:47:35] <SatanicSanta> ^

L2380[21:47:35] <gigaherz> but it could be darker

L2381[21:47:39] <williewillus> I can't stand light themes

L2382[21:47:42] <SatanicSanta> ^

L2383[21:47:52] <gigaherz> VS2013/2015's dark theme is better

L2384[21:48:32] <williewillus> I have dark everything, GTK3 theme? yup, Windows 10? registry hacked to dark mode, w10m? dark mode. extremely off putting whenever something doesn't have dark mode so I have to burn my eyes using it lol

L2385[21:48:48] <killjoy1> I prefered the Ambience theme in Ubuntu

L2386[21:48:59] <kashike> my eyes would burn if intellij wasn't using darcula

L2387[21:49:47] <gigaherz> my monitors are on like 25% brightness

L2388[21:50:10] <gigaherz> I have a couple light bulbs right on top of me, something like 100W equivalent

L2389[21:50:32] <williewillus> eh ambience isnt dark enough, I use Vertex for GTK (something like https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rnMFlJoJu20/VUEqHr43UnI/AAAAAAAALak/l3xm-pKqmJI/s1920/vertex-theme-2.jpg except with a proper desktop environment)

L2390[21:50:34] <gigaherz> not too bright, sufficiently bright that my eyes don't get too tured

L2391[21:50:42] <gigaherz> tired*

L2392[21:50:44] <gigaherz> eh

L2393[21:51:27] <gigaherz> sufficiently bright to work on, but not so bright that my eyes get tired easily

L2394[21:51:47] <gigaherz> I can't use a screen on a dark room, gives me headaches

L2395[21:51:59] <SatanicSanta> ^

L2396[21:52:07] <gigaherz> but too much ambient light is also bad

L2397[21:52:59] <gigaherz> the lamps happen to be right on top of me so idon't have issues with reflections

L2398[21:53:23] <gigaherz> someone was doing an undertale mc mod?

L2399[21:53:24] <gigaherz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRmCrEHqn8U

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L2402[22:05:46] <MattDahEpic> gigaherz, that was undercraft: https://github.com/ThePsionic/undercraft

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L2404[22:09:49] <Cazzar> Set up a 2nd router, and this: http://upload.cazzar.net/u/1448942973

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L2415[23:01:12] <MattDahEpic> is there a *shorter* way of doing packets than SimpleImpl?

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L2417[23:03:47] <tterrag> MattDahEpic: it's not called simple for nothing

L2418[23:03:52] <tterrag> how could it be shorter?

L2419[23:04:14] <MattDahEpic> the fact that you have to write 3+ lines for each valeu you send

L2420[23:04:27] <tterrag> err, excuse me?

L2421[23:04:29] <tterrag> how so?

L2422[23:04:51] <williewillus> any custom solution you come up with is almost certainly going to require wayyyyyy more lines

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L2425[23:06:00] <tterrag> I don't get what you mean

L2426[23:06:00] <MattDahEpic> https://github.com/MattDahEpic/ExchangeOrb/blob/1.8/src/main/java/com/mattdahepic/exchangeorb/network/SyncPacket.java line 16,37,56,76,and 96 are required for 1 value to sync properly

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L2428[23:06:37] <tterrag> that's called hardcoding

L2429[23:06:49] <tterrag> simpleimpl doesn't require you to hardcode stuff like that

L2430[23:06:57] <sham1> ^

L2431[23:07:10] <tterrag> and if you are syncing config stuff, I suggest you take a look at EnderCore

L2432[23:07:20] <tterrag> you can use it if you want (the code or the mod as a lib)

L2433[23:07:23] <MattDahEpic> leenk

L2434[23:07:36] <tterrag> https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderCore/blob/master/src/main/java/com/enderio/core/common/config/PacketConfigSync.java

L2435[23:07:46] <tterrag> which is sent to/from https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderCore/blob/master/src/main/java/com/enderio/core/common/config/ConfigProcessor.java

L2436[23:07:53] <tterrag> which parses data using https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderCore/tree/master/src/main/java/com/enderio/core/common/config/annot

L2437[23:08:19] <sham1> GZIPOutputStream O_O

L2438[23:08:36] <sham1> Compressing something I see

L2439[23:08:57] <tterrag> black wizardry

L2440[23:09:08] <tterrag> basically "zipping" serialized objects

L2441[23:09:29] <sham1> I can see that

L2442[23:10:01] <sham1> And if you are stupid enough to pass something non-Serializable, it will break

L2443[23:10:20] <sham1> Assuming the ConfigProcessor even allows that to happen

L2444[23:10:36] <sham1> Which I doubt

L2445[23:10:39] <tterrag> it might

L2446[23:10:45] <tterrag> but I severely doubt that happening

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L2448[23:11:01] <tterrag> you can add your own config type adapters though

L2449[23:11:04] <sham1> Well maps are serializible

L2450[23:11:07] <tterrag> that is an edge case I hadn't considered

L2451[23:11:38] <tterrag> sham1: https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderCore/blob/master/src/main/java/com/enderio/core/common/config/TypeAdapterBase.java

L2452[23:11:40] <tterrag> prepare your eyes

L2453[23:12:17] <tterrag> that class allows you to have a public static @Config List<String> myConfig = Lists.newArrayList("entry1", "entry2");

L2454[23:12:21] <tterrag> and it'll convert to/from string arr

L2455[23:12:28] <tterrag> among other things

L2456[23:12:35] <tterrag> (like auto double->float)

L2457[23:12:47] <sham1> I-i-i-it's beautiful

L2458[23:13:38] <tterrag> one thing I have yet to do is add some kind of hook for later processing

L2459[23:13:42] <sham1> Anyway

L2460[23:13:47] <tterrag> like if you wanted to turn a string into an itemstack, preinit isn't going to be great for that

L2461[23:13:58] <tterrag> I suppose you could have two different config classes

L2462[23:14:01] <tterrag> and thus two config files

L2463[23:14:04] <sham1> I need to figure out how to implement hashCode properly

L2464[23:14:04] <tterrag> but that's annoying

L2465[23:14:30] <tterrag> use your IDE to generate it :P

L2466[23:14:39] <tterrag> or lombok >.>

L2467[23:14:41] <sham1> My IDE-A exactly

L2468[23:14:50] <MattDahEpic> *rimshot*

L2469[23:14:51] <sham1> Or Objects

L2470[23:14:56] <tterrag> @EqualsAndHashCode

L2471[23:14:57] <tterrag> :D

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L2474[23:18:22] <sham1> Well IDEA certainly generated an interesting equals and hashCode pair, I must say

L2475[23:19:24] <sham1> in that the syntax was a bit off for equals but whatever

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