OCLogs: 2015-11-22.log

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L7[00:22:06] <DevinEngland> Test Message: Hello

L8[00:23:10] <McJty> Test failed. I did not receive that message

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L11[00:24:19] <DevinEngland> Yep, was definitely worth it to get an actual chat client. Much better than the web one.

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L15[00:33:54] <GhostfromTexas> man so much to learn with modding D:

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L17[00:36:46] <Kodos> It's worth it tho

L18[00:36:50] <Kodos> I learned yesterday, made my own mod =D

L19[00:37:22] <GhostfromTexas> nice :D friend of mine (who knows the modding side of things) and I are doing one

L20[00:37:37] <GhostfromTexas> and well I am a programmer, so i am learning it

L21[00:37:37] <GhostfromTexas> haha

L22[00:37:40] <GhostfromTexas> he's teaching me

L23[00:41:30] <DevinEngland> I just started seriously trying to learn tonight. Following the Wup tutorials

L24[00:42:20] <DevinEngland> A friend of mine pitched a mod idea at me, so we got myself, him with the idea, and a guy I know who's good with sprite work

L25[00:44:36] <GhostfromTexas> nice

L26[00:45:06] <DevinEngland> He came to me with a simple enough one, that I thought it was actually doable with no prior experience save for extensive research

L27[00:45:09] <GhostfromTexas> i am a professional game developer, and I live-stream minecraft, so up and decided to learn how to do some modding :P

L28[00:45:31] <GhostfromTexas> so the other guy i stream with is also a game developer and has done modding before, so we're tackling a project

L29[00:45:33] <DevinEngland> Seems like we're mostly just going to be restructuring existing code to make a form of magic

L30[00:45:44] <DevinEngland> Awesome!

L31[00:45:55] <DevinEngland> Care to tell me your stream name so I can sub?

L32[00:46:24] <GhostfromTexas> i stream on Beam.pro and occasioanlly Twitch

L33[00:46:28] <GhostfromTexas> same name as this

L34[00:47:10] <DevinEngland> Alright.

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L41[01:49:36] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20151122 mappings to Forge Maven.

L42[01:49:40] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20151122-1.8.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20151122" in build.gradle).

L43[01:49:51] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L45[02:11:14] <Zaggy1024> breakBlock isn't called on the client, so what should I use to update light for a block whose light is affected by the block that is broken? :|

L46[02:12:23] <luacs1998> onNeighbourBlockChange?

L47[02:12:53] <DevinEngland> Having issues setting up Forge.

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L49[02:13:00] <DevinEngland> http://i.imgur.com/Zr6Bd2F.png Trying to set up the workspace, ran into this

L50[02:13:25] <Matthew> DevinEngland, try again. looks like a network derp

L51[02:13:33] <DevinEngland> Thank you

L52[02:14:19] <Zaggy1024> good idea luacs, didn't think of that

L53[02:14:23] <DevinEngland> Time to let it sit for another 20 minutes or so. Man, the setup phase is taking awhile, but I actually am feeling excited for it

L54[02:14:28] <Zaggy1024> not sure it'll cover everything, but I hope it will

L55[02:14:42] <Zaggy1024> (the blocks have TEs containing hte data that affects light level)

L56[02:15:47] <Zaggy1024> it shouldn't take 20 minutes

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L58[02:16:01] <Zaggy1024> it shouldn't even take more than a minute, I think

L59[02:16:17] <DevinEngland> I've got a slow internet connection

L60[02:16:17] <Zaggy1024> well, depending on CPU speed of course

L61[02:16:22] <Zaggy1024> and that

L62[02:16:50] <DevinEngland> This is probably something I'd be doing better at a friend of mine who actually has better internet, but right now, I'm determined

L63[02:16:52] <Zaggy1024> but if you can keep it up in the background while you do other stuff it'll get done sooner

L64[02:17:05] <Zaggy1024> because you'll see it fail

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L67[02:20:01] <DevinEngland> Going much faster now that it went through most of it once already.

L68[02:20:23] <Matthew> thats the beauty of gradle :P it caches everything it can

L69[02:20:55] <Zaggy1024> ugh, never mind about neighbor block change

L70[02:21:00] <Zaggy1024> that's not called on client either -.-

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L72[02:21:23] <DevinEngland> So, using forge/trying to make mods is going to be my first real coding experience... I'm kinda excited about it.

L73[02:21:37] <DevinEngland> Like, actual experience more than just reading/following Java tutorials

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L82[02:47:20] <ThePsionic> What's better, (int)(float * 2) or Math.round(float * 2)

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L84[02:48:00] <sham1> Rounding round the number afterwards (duh)

L85[02:48:25] <ThePsionic> ??????

L86[02:48:50] <sham1> It depends what you want to do

L87[02:49:09] <ThePsionic> http://i.imgur.com/OgEsoKU.png

L88[02:49:51] <sham1> wait

L89[02:49:59] <ThePsionic> I wait

L90[02:50:07] <sham1> Doesn't getHealth return float anyway?

L91[02:50:12] <sham1> Lemme check

L92[02:50:18] <sham1> !gm getHealth

L93[02:50:45] <sham1> Yeah

L94[02:51:21] <ThePsionic> mhm

L95[02:51:38] <sham1> try to see if there is any difference

L96[02:51:45] <ThePsionic> meh I'll math.round just to be safe

L97[02:52:14] <sham1> There should not be assuming fullHeartsHealed is basically .00

L98[02:52:24] <sham1> But go with it

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L100[02:53:19] <DevinEngland> Decompiling forever...

L101[02:54:21] <ThePsionic> Also

L102[02:54:23] <sham1> Well MC's codebase is huge

L103[02:54:43] <DevinEngland> Been stuck on 65% for awhile :P

L104[02:55:02] <sham1> It still takes some time

L105[02:55:06] <ThePsionic> When doing I18n.format(String key, Object... args), you need to swap out the places where you want the args to appear with %s right?

L106[02:55:19] <sham1> Umn, what do you mean

L107[02:55:24] <ThePsionic> Like

L108[02:55:35] <DevinEngland> Gotcha. Think I'm going to go sleep for now, leave this running in the background to let it finish. I've got plenty of time for this at the moment.

L109[02:55:44] <ThePsionic> I'm doing I18n.format("other.heal", fullHeartsHealed)

L110[02:55:53] <DevinEngland> Oh wow, grumble about it and it starts working again :|

L111[02:55:59] <ThePsionic> So then my .lang file would have to contain other.heal=Heals %s hearts

L112[02:56:01] <ThePsionic> right?

L113[02:56:08] <sham1> why not do

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L115[02:57:15] <sham1> Heals %d hearts

L116[02:57:19] <ThePsionic> Why %d?

L117[02:57:21] <sham1> Then you can put it there as an integer

L118[02:57:37] <sham1> No reason to have it be String

L119[02:57:41] <ThePsionic> Fair enough

L120[03:08:10] <ThePsionic> Hmmmmmm

L121[03:08:31] <ThePsionic> http://i.imgur.com/GsjVl3j.png this, for some reason, does not like halves

L122[03:08:43] <ThePsionic> (It does display 0.0 though)

L123[03:08:58] <ThePsionic> (Or 1.0 w/e, it does the whole numbers right)

L124[03:09:37] <DevinEngland> Finally finished decomp, now I gotta make my eclipse build

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L127[03:12:55] <sham1> That takes no time at all

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L129[03:15:01] <DevinEngland> Literally was done before I came back in here to check the messages

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L131[03:21:35] <ThePsionic> What the hell

L132[03:21:44] <ThePsionic> Last time I checked, 9 / 2 = 4.5 not 4

L133[03:21:51] <sham1> nope

L134[03:22:02] <ThePsionic> then why is it doing this

L135[03:24:47] <Kodos> I wish there was some sort of horizontal elevators that worked like Thutmose's lifts

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L137[03:25:46] <ThePsionic> damn you, work!

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L142[03:33:08] <sham1> 9 / 2 is 4

L143[03:33:17] <sham1> 9.0 / 2.0 is 4.5

L144[03:36:25] <ThePsionic> Oh duh

L145[03:37:31] <ThePsionic> Hurrah, sham1 the wonder person

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L177[05:38:23] <Lumien> Are modded entitys also in the EntityList class or do i have to look them up seperately in the EntityRegistry?

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L196[06:03:39] <FerretPL> hey guys

L197[06:03:51] <FerretPL> is there any modded support channel?

L198[06:04:12] <Kodos> General rule of thumb is to go to the channel of the mod you need support for

L199[06:04:23] <MalkContent> ^

L200[06:04:35] <FerretPL> the problem is that i dont know what mod is causing my problem

L201[06:04:44] <Kodos> Are you crashing?

L202[06:04:48] <FerretPL> no

L203[06:04:52] <Kodos> What's the issue?

L204[06:05:02] <FerretPL> invisible items in crafting grid

L205[06:05:12] <FerretPL> i tried removing mods one by one

L206[06:05:13] <sham1> How do you know they are there

L207[06:05:13] <Kodos> Single player or multiplayer

L208[06:05:17] <FerretPL> single

L209[06:05:18] <sham1> If they are invisible

L210[06:05:35] <FerretPL> sham i can normally craft but i cant see them

L211[06:05:42] <Kodos> Do you know how to pipe the results of a 'dir' command to a file?

L212[06:06:05] <FerretPL> you want my modlist?

L213[06:06:08] <Kodos> Yes

L214[06:06:08] <MalkContent> (he's asking for a list of mods)

L215[06:06:13] <masa> do you see the hover text for the items, ie. is it just the icon that isn't showing up?

L216[06:06:20] <Kodos> Sorry, been programming all day =P

L217[06:06:23] <FerretPL> nope

L218[06:06:28] <FerretPL> oks

L219[06:06:41] <FerretPL> wait a sec

L220[06:08:06] <FerretPL> http://pastebin.com/iteUSfw9

L221[06:08:49] <FerretPL> sometimes it disappears when i remove a mod but reappears after restart

L222[06:09:05] <FerretPL> config reset, no result

L223[06:09:06] <masa> are inventories and other GUIs fine? what type of crafting tables does it affect?

L224[06:09:36] <FerretPL> mini crafting grid (in inventory)

L225[06:09:47] <FerretPL> im currently checking other crafting grids

L226[06:10:53] <FerretPL> longest i was able to play without this problem was 3 restarts after i removed creativecore and craftingmanager

L227[06:10:56] <Kodos> I would not be surprised if it was DragonAPI

L228[06:11:09] <FerretPL> ill try w/o it

L229[06:11:24] <Kodos> You'll need to pull/disable RotaryCraft, too

L230[06:11:29] <Kodos> DragonAPI is a dep for it

L231[06:11:34] <FerretPL> yea yea i know

L232[06:12:30] <FerretPL> i checked reika'a site

L233[06:12:39] <FerretPL> ill try to f3+t

L234[06:12:54] <FerretPL> if its problem with dragonapi it should fix it

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L236[06:13:40] <FerretPL> i report after test

L237[06:15:16] <MalkContent> man blender has too many shortcuts

L238[06:15:26] <MalkContent> "i think it was thiiiis one..." *press*

L239[06:15:32] <MalkContent> WHERE AM I AND HOW DO I GET BAAAACK

L240[06:15:35] <FerretPL> XD

L241[06:15:43] <FerretPL> i know that feel bro

L242[06:16:01] <MalkContent> blender needs a shortcut undo shortcut

L243[06:16:28] <FerretPL> and shortcut to undo undo shortcut

L244[06:16:34] <Kodos> Ctrl+Alt+Shift and all the even F## buttons at once = "Unfuck the thing you just fucked up" button

L245[06:17:19] <MalkContent> basically a shortcut where you use all 10 fingers

L246[06:17:25] <MalkContent> and then have to hit space with your forehead

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L248[06:17:52] <Kodos> Don't be silly, most people use their nose

L249[06:17:55] <MalkContent> it would capture the feeling well enough

L250[06:18:07] <MalkContent> and also would look hillarious in a studio where blender is used

L251[06:18:24] <MalkContent> "a shit." takatakatakafaceplant

L252[06:18:53] <MalkContent> people would make wall of shames with mobile photos of coworkers they caught reverting

L253[06:19:08] <MalkContent> but who am i kidding. professional studios dont use blender xD

L254[06:20:07] <FerretPL> ok so f3+t isnt working

L255[06:20:18] <FerretPL> now ill remove dragonapi etc

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L257[06:24:43] <FerretPL> well its not problem with reika's mods

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L259[06:29:21] <MalkContent> http://sinister-lore.de/picdump/untitled2.png looking still blocky enough?

L260[06:30:26] <FerretPL> what is that supposed to be?

L261[06:30:52] <MalkContent> who knows

L262[06:30:56] <FerretPL> XD

L263[06:31:04] <MalkContent> its a special block

L264[06:31:23] <MalkContent> theres a light inside that cage and it can open and close

L265[06:31:37] <MalkContent> the question is, is it still blocky enough

L266[06:31:39] <FerretPL> Like CptSpaceToaster said "do you think i know what i was doing when i made color lights? I just clicked buttons and this happened!"

L267[06:31:44] <FerretPL> yea

L268[06:31:49] <FerretPL> its cool

L269[06:32:36] <Kodos> Can you mount them on walls and ceilings?

L270[06:32:55] <MalkContent> yea

L271[06:33:07] <Kodos> How is the opening and closing controlled? M anual or redstone?

L272[06:33:21] <MalkContent> not sure if manual yet

L273[06:33:25] <MalkContent> but definitly redstone

L274[06:33:38] <Kodos> Make sure you use canConnectRedstone so I can use Project Red framed insulated wire to control them =D

L275[06:34:23] <MalkContent> well i think i have enough time to put that in :D pred is gonna take it's time with going past 1.7.10 i think

L276[06:35:43] <FerretPL> guys i tried removing mods one by one and after removing optifine mc crashed

L277[06:35:44] <Kodos> Uhh

L278[06:35:52] <FerretPL> im posting report to pastebing

L279[06:35:55] <FerretPL> bin*

L280[06:36:14] <Kodos> Dat feel when your dryer makes the whole house smell gewd

L281[06:36:43] <FerretPL> http://pastebin.com/2WNhKhvh

L282[06:37:14] <FerretPL> is codechicken's chunkloading dependant on optifine?

L283[06:37:40] <Kodos> Not that I'm aware of

L284[06:38:05] <MalkContent> i don't think theres a single mod depending on optifine

L285[06:38:16] <FerretPL> same here

L286[06:38:25] <FerretPL> i posted report coz

L287[06:38:41] <FerretPL> i thought its weird

L288[06:39:15] <Kodos> Er

L289[06:39:23] <Kodos> Do you still have electricraft in after removing DragonAPI?

L290[06:39:26] <Kodos> I didn't see that one initially

L291[06:39:49] <FerretPL> no i added it after eliminating it as source of problem

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L293[06:41:17] <FerretPL> brb

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L295[07:03:44] <GeoDoX> Did you get it FerretPL ?

L296[07:07:45] <FerretPL> wait im checking

L297[07:08:10] <FerretPL> nope

L298[07:08:19] <FerretPL> w/o optifine still not working

L299[07:09:20] <FerretPL> it looks like a mod is overlaying a texture over crafting grid

L300[07:12:09] <FerretPL> but im probably wrong

L301[07:12:24] <FerretPL> ill look at output log when crafting

L302[07:13:10] <ThePsionic> I just bought Fallout 4

L303[07:13:12] <ThePsionic> RIP my life

L304[07:13:18] <sham1> Heh

L305[07:13:21] <FerretPL> same here

L306[07:13:32] <ThePsionic> Only had to pay € 8,07 though

L307[07:13:36] <FerretPL> !

L308[07:13:41] <FerretPL> where...?

L309[07:13:52] <ThePsionic> I got like € 51 from selling old TF2 stuff on the community market

L310[07:14:00] <FerretPL> wow

L311[07:14:05] <ThePsionic> And I got all of that by just playing the game

L312[07:14:10] <ThePsionic> So all in all pretty damn good

L313[07:14:32] <FerretPL> i bought mine for full price but...

L314[07:14:44] <FerretPL> i earned those money easily

L315[07:14:48] <ThePsionic> If I don't like it I can always refund it :P

L316[07:14:58] <FerretPL> you WILL like it

L317[07:15:12] <ThePsionic> I've been playing quite some Borderlands 2 lately, so I think I will ye :P

L318[07:15:30] <ThePsionic> Good thing I have a 2TB hard drive

L319[07:15:32] <FerretPL> i photoshoped a few photos for some people and i earned 100$(!)

L320[07:15:33] <sham1> Fallout hype

L321[07:15:38] <FerretPL> yep

L322[07:15:46] <FerretPL> everyone board hype train

L323[07:15:48] <ThePsionic> FerretPL: I wish I could make money that easily

L324[07:15:52] <ThePsionic> That's like a month's work for me

L325[07:16:00] <FerretPL> learn photoshop :)

L326[07:16:41] <ThePsionic> I'm what you would call "creatively challenged"

L327[07:17:14] <ThePsionic> Anyway, I should do this assignment before getting back to gaming

L328[07:17:29] <FerretPL> btw whats your steam nick?

L329[07:17:44] <FerretPL> maybe we'll play BL2 together

L330[07:18:32] <ThePsionic> http://steamcommunity.com/id/Trahaearne

L331[07:18:58] <FerretPL> ok im adding you

L332[07:19:32] <FerretPL> tobdog?

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L334[07:19:56] <sham1> Argh

L335[07:20:05] <sham1> My neck hurts so much

L336[07:20:13] <FerretPL> what happened?

L337[07:20:40] <ThePsionic> I tried to kill sham1

L338[07:20:43] <FerretPL> XD

L339[07:20:44] <ThePsionic> It failed, apparently

L340[07:20:55] <FerretPL> maybe try darknet?

L341[07:21:10] <FerretPL> ill give you link to 1000$per kill offer

L342[07:21:22] <FerretPL> (if i find it XD)

L343[07:22:06] <FerretPL> guys do you know any tutorial about animating models for mc mods(with code tutorial)

L344[07:23:22] <diesieben07> which type of models? also which MC version?

L345[07:23:37] <FerretPL> 1.7.10 blender models for mobs

L346[07:23:47] <diesieben07> uhh so obj models? glhf

L347[07:24:18] <FerretPL> ok lets try other way

L348[07:24:23] <FerretPL> Any model*

L349[07:24:34] <diesieben07> any model? even more glhf :D

L350[07:24:38] <FerretPL> XD

L351[07:24:46] <sham1> B3d could work

L352[07:24:47] <diesieben07> MC entity animations are all hand written in code

L353[07:25:22] <sham1> But glhf parsing b3d in 1.7.10

L354[07:25:29] <FerretPL> XD

L355[07:25:51] <FerretPL> so its worse worser or worserererer? :p

L356[07:25:52] <sham1> Instead of using 1.8 where b3d stuff is provided to you by forge

L357[07:26:00] <sham1> Animations and all

L358[07:26:09] <diesieben07> really? it does animations?

L359[07:26:13] <sham1> Yes

L360[07:26:15] <ThePsionic> FerretPL: I just go with pure JSON and it seems to work out for me x)

L361[07:26:16] <diesieben07> wow.

L362[07:26:17] <sham1> Keyframes

L363[07:26:50] <sham1> You *can* do keyframes with OBJ if you hate yourself

L364[07:26:58] <FerretPL> #totally_understood #modelingpro #moddingpro

L365[07:27:03] <FerretPL> ;)

L366[07:27:28] <sham1> Hey, I learnt about keyframes with SFM

L367[07:27:39] <ThePsionic> http://i.imgur.com/sxGfmii.png what the fuck is this

L368[07:27:56] <sham1> It's a picture

L369[07:28:09] <FerretPL> 1 open IDE

L370[07:28:18] <FerretPL> 2 push colorful buttons

L371[07:28:21] <ThePsionic> Thanks sham1

L372[07:28:22] <FerretPL> 3 ???

L373[07:28:26] <FerretPL> 4 profit

L374[07:28:29] <ThePsionic> Thanks FerretPL

L375[07:28:45] <sham1> ThePsionic, you did ask

L376[07:28:55] <ThePsionic> pls

L377[07:28:55] <sham1> And I answered

L378[07:29:05] <FerretPL> well that how i get ideas for items for my random mods

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L380[07:29:33] <FerretPL> i open txt push buttons and try to find words in the randomness

L381[07:30:00] <Wuppy> o/

L382[07:30:26] <FerretPL> D: !

L383[07:30:34] <FerretPL> wuppy! its that you?!

L384[07:30:41] <Wuppy> yes I am wuppy

L385[07:30:51] <Wuppy> that's why my username is wuppy :P

L386[07:31:02] <FerretPL> #ofcourse

L387[07:31:03] <sham1> :p

L388[07:32:10] <sham1> Ibuprofen is so good

L389[07:32:13] <Wuppy> question, what do you guys think of this 90s song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llyiQ4I-mcQ

L390[07:32:24] <sham1> My neck no longer hurts too badly

L391[07:32:40] <FerretPL> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ZkXUcU8T8

L392[07:39:29] <FerretPL> shit

L393[07:39:39] <FerretPL> still no clear solution for my problem

L394[07:40:01] <FerretPL> i got it to disappear for one restart but that was random

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L398[07:59:14] <code_> What problem, FerretPL?

L399[07:59:32] <FerretPL> items not visible in crafting grid

L400[08:00:20] <code_> Dev workspace or laymen client?

L401[08:03:39] <sham1> yay

L402[08:03:43] <Lunatrius> Shouldn't the following throw NoClassDefFoundError when the first parameter is false and GuiIngameModOptions doesn't exist? if (ConfigurationHandler.replaceInGameConfig && event.gui instanceof GuiIngameModOptions) { /* doshit */ }

L403[08:04:02] <sham1> I made my nav-bar in my mod's website stick to the top of the screen upon scrolling past it

L404[08:09:00] <diesieben07> so position:sticky? :D

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L406[08:09:28] <sham1> wait

L407[08:10:13] <sham1> FUCKING HELL

L408[08:10:16] <diesieben07> haha

L409[08:10:18] <sham1> I did all this jQuery stuff

L410[08:10:35] <diesieben07> well, IE doesnt support it

L411[08:10:38] <sham1> While I could have used position: sticky instead

L412[08:10:39] <sham1> Well

L413[08:10:40] <diesieben07> http://caniuse.com/#feat=css-sticky

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L415[08:10:55] <diesieben07> wut

L416[08:10:58] <diesieben07> chrome doesnt have it either!

L417[08:11:03] <diesieben07> fu google

L418[08:11:03] <sham1> Okay

L419[08:11:16] <sham1> Maybe my little jQuery thing is relevant after all

L420[08:12:41] <sham1> why is firefox and safari the only ones that can sticky

L421[08:12:51] <diesieben07> because its fairly new

L422[08:13:28] <sham1> Also

L423[08:13:39] <sham1> Why do I use Firefox version 42

L424[08:13:45] <sham1> Godamnit

L425[08:14:20] <diesieben07> why do you use firefox period? :D

L426[08:14:32] <sham1> Because I like the amount of stuff

L427[08:14:37] <sham1> Also

L428[08:14:54] <sham1> I'd rather not be in the chrome bandwagon

L429[08:14:58] <PrinceCat> I recently switched over to Safari from Chrome...

L430[08:15:12] <diesieben07> why not?

L431[08:15:14] <PrinceCat> I've always been a Chrome user, but it's just so hungry... and Apple have me in their grips.

L432[08:15:20] <diesieben07> google is love, google is life.

L433[08:15:25] <PrinceCat> Safari syncs between all my devices.. haha

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L435[08:15:39] <diesieben07> so does chrome

L436[08:15:50] <PrinceCat> Oh I know, but it interfaces well with all my Apple products.

L437[08:15:51] <sham1> he propaby has iOS

L438[08:15:59] <PrinceCat> Sham nailed it.

L439[08:16:00] <sham1> Yeh

L440[08:16:04] <diesieben07> well, yeah

L441[08:16:06] <PrinceCat> inb4 Apple hate

L442[08:16:12] <diesieben07> if you are in the apple bubble, you need to use all apple

L443[08:16:14] <PrinceCat> "Ew mac fag fuk u"

L444[08:16:16] <diesieben07> then its kinda awesome

L445[08:16:26] <diesieben07> but thats just too ridiculously expensive imho

L446[08:16:33] <PrinceCat> Yeah, I do agree there..

L447[08:16:41] <PrinceCat> I have like a $3k RMBP, haha.

L448[08:17:01] <diesieben07> rmbp?

L449[08:17:06] <PrinceCat> Retina MacBook Pro

L450[08:17:12] <diesieben07> oh

L451[08:17:43] <Unh0ly_Tigg> my *grandmother* bought one of those 5K macs recently...

L452[08:17:49] <diesieben07> oh god

L453[08:17:49] <PrinceCat> Seriously?

L454[08:17:52] <PrinceCat> Oh my..

L455[08:17:52] <Unh0ly_Tigg> yeah...

L456[08:17:59] <diesieben07> should've gave her a chromebook or something

L457[08:18:03] <Unh0ly_Tigg> granted, she's rich.

L458[08:18:05] <diesieben07> or a cheap linux box

L459[08:18:19] <PrinceCat> Tbh, she just needs a flip phone.

L460[08:18:31] <Unh0ly_Tigg> if she decided to sell her house, it would be worth over a million

L461[08:18:38] <diesieben07> :O

L462[08:18:46] <PrinceCat> Jesus..

L463[08:18:52] <Unh0ly_Tigg> yeah, lives within an hour of san fran

L464[08:18:53] <sham1> Umn

L465[08:19:08] <sham1> A mansion?

L466[08:19:31] <PrinceCat> You'll find that you don't actually need to have a mansion to pay over a million for a house these days.

L467[08:19:40] <Unh0ly_Tigg> nope, just older with lots of upgrades. 2 story, big backyard with a large deck

L468[08:19:44] <PrinceCat> Nice houses close to the city can very quickly get expensive.

L469[08:19:59] <PrinceCat> The housing market is a mess..

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L471[08:20:08] <diesieben07> my parents live in a 1/4 million dollar house, too. its not THAT hard to get to

L472[08:20:09] <sham1> Especially after 2008

L473[08:20:11] <sham1> I'm sorry

L474[08:20:16] <sham1> That was a lame joke

L475[08:20:48] <Unh0ly_Tigg> she and my late grandfather have lived in that house longer than I've been alive, and I'm 22...

L476[08:21:05] <Unh0ly_Tigg> he used to work for kodak, and was in the military

L477[08:31:23] <GeoDoX> ThePsionic, I just got done downloading the game overnight. Took 8 hours. Played it for an hour and now I have to go to work :'(

L478[08:31:39] <sham1> It'll be there when you come back

L479[08:31:57] <ThePsionic> RIP GeoDoX

L480[08:32:33] <GeoDoX> ThePsionic, I didn't sleep at all. I'm going to actually die at work today haha. FML.

L481[08:32:57] <GeoDoX> Anyway, I gotta head off. Good luck!

L482[08:32:58] <shadowfacts> does anyone know what kind of recipes Thermal * use?

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L484[08:33:38] <sham1> Umn

L485[08:33:41] <sham1> what do you mean

L486[08:33:58] <shadowfacts> Thermal Expansion adds a recipe for paper with 4 sawdust and 1 bucket of water

L487[08:34:06] <shadowfacts> My mod adds an Infinite Water Bucket

L488[08:34:19] <sham1> Paper for days

L489[08:34:27] <shadowfacts> Part of that is that it automatically adds alt recipes using the infinite one instead of the regular one

L490[08:35:04] <shadowfacts> it goes through every recipe in the CraftingManager recipe list looking for a one that has a water bucket in it so it can duplicate, replace the bucket, and re-add it

L491[08:35:21] <shadowfacts> right now I'm checking ShapedRecipes, ShapelessRecipes, ShapedOreRecipes, and ShapelessOreRecipes

L492[08:35:31] <shadowfacts> but that still doesn't find the TE paper recipe

L493[08:35:43] <sham1> It can use its own crafting handle

L494[08:35:47] <sham1> Not sure though

L495[08:38:57] <gigaherz> shadowfacts: it's probably some custom class implementing IRecipe

L496[08:39:29] <sham1> bad to say because TE is closed-sourcew

L497[08:40:06] <gigaherz> http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/thermalexpansion/files/2246924#additional-files

L498[08:40:11] <gigaherz> get the dev jar

L499[08:40:15] <gigaherz> add it as a library

L500[08:40:23] <gigaherz> and explore from within idea/eclipse ;P

L501[08:40:44] <PrinceCat> Alternatively run it through BON to deobfuscate it, haha.

L502[08:40:57] <sham1> Well that's cheating

L503[08:40:59] <sham1> Although

L504[08:41:41] <sham1> You could iterate through the IRecipe list in postInit and find any recipes with a water bucket in them

L505[08:41:48] <sham1> And then from that make your infi-water thing

L506[08:41:59] <sham1> and add those recipes

L507[08:42:01] <gigaherz> xcept IRecipes don't have a list of ingredients

L508[08:42:22] <gigaherz> they take an InventoryCrafting, and return an ItemStack

L509[08:42:29] <gigaherz> it's a black box otherwise

L510[08:42:29] <sham1> wait

L511[08:42:30] <sham1> Wat

L512[08:42:36] <sham1> Godamn it

L513[08:43:06] <Unh0ly_Tigg> they have a match method and a get output method, but no get inputs method.

L514[08:43:24] <sham1> well that's stupid

L515[08:43:31] <sham1> It would have made this so much easier

L516[08:43:43] <gigaherz> but it's how it works so...

L517[08:44:33] <sham1> doesnt make it any less stupid

L518[08:44:58] <gigaherz> also, it's not really stupid

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L520[08:45:09] <gigaherz> suppose you have a food recipe

L521[08:45:19] <gigaherz> that can take any 4 food ingredients

L522[08:45:30] <gigaherz> and it decides on the attributes of the output based on those ingredients

L523[08:45:51] <gigaherz> you can't manually add all the combinations

L524[08:46:13] <Unh0ly_Tigg> well, I installed ubuntu on to this old laptop, an during install, it saw that it had internet. but now it doesn't even list ethernet in "ip -h link"...

L525[08:46:18] <gigaherz> well the banners work like that too ;P

L526[08:46:42] <gigaherz> there's a whole lot of banner recipes, and they all depend on the elements on the crafting table AND the previous state of the banner

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L528[08:46:49] <gigaherz> so it's an opaque IRecipe

L529[08:47:11] <gigaherz> so as annoying and frustrating as it is

L530[08:47:15] <ThePsionic> gais

L531[08:47:16] <ThePsionic> http://git.io/vBfs4

L532[08:47:19] <ThePsionic> did I do a good

L533[08:47:25] <gigaherz> there's not much to do about it but handle each mod explicitly

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L535[08:47:43] <gigaherz> or tell people to use custom recipe systems to add your thing

L536[08:47:58] <sham1> kistus

L537[08:48:00] <sham1> Jeexz

L538[08:48:04] <sham1> The hell is that

L539[08:48:38] <gigaherz> reunification of overengineered subclasses

L540[08:48:40] <gigaherz> apparently

L541[08:49:16] <ThePsionic> sham1: do words

L542[08:49:39] <shadowfacts> o_O

L543[08:49:46] <sham1> I did words

L544[08:49:54] <ThePsionic> <sham1> kistus

L545[08:49:54] <ThePsionic> <sham1> Jeexz

L546[08:49:55] <ThePsionic> sure

L547[08:49:55] <shadowfacts> when I iterate through every IRecipe in the CraftingManager's recipe list, there's only one that has a paper output

L548[08:50:12] <ThePsionic> shadowfacts: well yeah, 3 sugar

L549[08:50:12] <sham1> "Jeexz" is a typo

L550[08:50:27] <shadowfacts> there should be at least two

L551[08:50:33] <ThePsionic> Why?

L552[08:50:33] <shadowfacts> the TE sawdust one isn't ther

L553[08:50:38] <ThePsionic> Oh modded

L554[08:50:39] <ThePsionic> right

L555[08:51:20] <shadowfacts> recipes are supposed to be registered in the init phase, right?

L556[08:51:35] <gigaherz> "supposed to".

L557[08:51:40] <gigaherz> a lot of things mess with recipes in post-init

L558[08:52:13] <shadowfacts> TE adds the recipes in postInit

L559[08:52:30] <shadowfacts> I added "after:ThermalExpansion" to my mods dep string and now it works

L560[08:53:11] <shadowfacts> damnit

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L562[08:53:34] <sham1> why TE why

L563[08:53:40] <shadowfacts> is there any way to say that my mod should be loaded after everything except in cases that would cause circular dependencies?

L564[08:54:05] <gigaherz> not that I know of

L565[08:54:32] <shadowfacts> v-v

L566[08:54:37] <ThePsionic> rip shadowfacts

L567[08:55:25] <ThePsionic> shadowfacts: give me some shadow facts

L568[08:55:38] <shadowfacts> the outer edge of a shadow is called the penumbra, IIRC

L569[08:55:52] <ThePsionic> that is a very interesting shadow fact

L570[08:56:12] <sham1> Well, it is true

L571[08:56:16] <ThePsionic> http://i.imgur.com/pbKpa4l.png

L572[08:56:17] <ThePsionic> Yep

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L574[09:01:52] <Kodos> Hypothetically, how hard would it be to port the mod I just made for 1.7.10 to 1.8?

L575[09:02:18] <ThePsionic> Depends on the complexity

L576[09:02:44] <Kodos> It's a two class mod, that adds a single item which uses metadata to have 16 items in the game, all the dyes basically

L577[09:02:56] <ThePsionic> In that case, not hard

L578[09:03:26] <ThePsionic> The two big things are changing the imports from cpw.whatever to net.minecraftforge

L579[09:03:44] <ThePsionic> And using JSON model files to define your items

L580[09:04:02] <Kodos> Even as just items?

L581[09:04:25] <ThePsionic> I mean item models, sorry

L582[09:04:40] <Kodos> They're just sprites, nothing fancy

L583[09:04:48] <ThePsionic> In your case (I saw a screenshot earlier), you probably have a base texture and an overlay that gets colored

L584[09:05:04] <Kodos> Nope, 16 different textures, selected based on item metadata

L585[09:05:15] <ThePsionic> Doesn't matter a lot

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L587[09:05:44] <ThePsionic> Just means you have to create 16 of these suckers https://github.com/ThePsionic/undercraft/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/undercraft/models/item/abandonedquiche.json

L588[09:06:01] <ThePsionic> And change layer0 accordingly

L589[09:06:12] <Kodos> Even using 2D png files, I have to make a JSON model?

L590[09:06:15] <ThePsionic> Yep

L591[09:06:16] <Kodos> No wonder people hate on 1.8 so much

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L593[09:06:21] <Kodos> That's fucking retarded

L594[09:06:51] <ThePsionic> Go scream at Mojang :^]

L595[09:07:02] <Kodos> You misspelled Microsoft

L596[09:07:24] <ThePsionic> I just made a template in IDEA which allows me to instantly create a base JSON file

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L598[09:08:00] <ThePsionic> Kodos: Wasn't 1.8 pre-MS?

L599[09:08:08] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L600[09:08:21] <sham1> you don't *have* to make JSON files for even 2D png files

L601[09:08:30] <sham1> But it is convenient

L602[09:09:12] <diesieben07> anyone good with vector math and willing to help me? :D

L603[09:09:32] <gigaherz> "good" is relative

L604[09:09:34] <sham1> Tell us what is it and we can see what you need

L605[09:09:34] <gigaherz> what's your issue? ;P

L606[09:09:37] <sham1> Also that

L607[09:09:47] <ThePsionic> Kodos: I was right! 1.8 came out on September 2, 2014, while Microsoft acquired Mojang on September 15th

L608[09:09:53] <diesieben07> well, so i have two vectors and i am trying to calculate a rotation matrix between the two

L609[09:09:58] <diesieben07> i found this: http://math.stackexchange.com/a/476311

L610[09:10:02] <gigaherz> [16:17] (Kodos): You misspelled Microsoft

L611[09:10:08] <gigaherz> MS aren't involved in the development

L612[09:10:27] <ThePsionic> ^ they basically just bought them for their VR headset

L613[09:10:27] <diesieben07> but cross product doesnt work (obviously) when the vectors are e.g. (0, 0, 1) (0, 0, -1)

L614[09:10:29] <sham1> They just own the intellectual property

L615[09:10:32] <gigaherz> they just gave them a lot of money, and take a lot of money in return

L616[09:10:42] <diesieben07> well, it does work, but this will give then give invalid resuts since at some point it leads to dividing by 0

L617[09:10:59] <sham1> So you want to get the angle between the vectors to get the rotations?

L618[09:11:00] <ThePsionic> (also wow 1.8 is over a year old)

L619[09:11:08] <diesieben07> uhhh

L620[09:11:10] <diesieben07> kinda, yeah

L621[09:11:13] <sham1> Yet most mods are in 1.7.x

L622[09:11:15] <sham1> Kinda sad

L623[09:11:17] <diesieben07> i just followed that calucaltion i do not fully undestand it

L624[09:11:21] <ThePsionic> ikr sham1

L625[09:11:54] <ThePsionic> No wait sham1 get this

L626[09:12:09] <ThePsionic> Earlier this month I found a MCForum thread to announce a new mod

L627[09:12:14] <ThePsionic> It was made on Nov 5th

L628[09:12:24] <ThePsionic> It described the mod as being for 1.6.4

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L630[09:16:15] <diesieben07> sham1, angle between vectors is trivial and not enough.

L631[09:16:15] <gigaherz> mods are in 1.7.10 because of traction

L632[09:16:32] <gigaherz> "all the mods I use are on 1.7.10, so I want my idea ALSO on 1.7.10"

L633[09:18:03] <gigaherz> diesieben07: http://es.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/16243-angle-between-two-vectors-in-3d

L634[09:18:14] <gigaherz> check the accepted answer

L635[09:18:36] <diesieben07> only the angle is not enough

L636[09:18:40] <gigaherz> no wait

L637[09:18:42] <gigaherz> nevermind yeah

L638[09:18:45] <gigaherz> it's not the "3d angle"

L639[09:18:49] <gigaherz> it's a simplified numeric value

L640[09:19:17] <gigaherz> ah i see

L641[09:19:27] <gigaherz> okay so from the cross product you get the rotation axis

L642[09:19:29] <gigaherz> if it's 0

L643[09:19:32] <gigaherz> choose ANY axis

L644[09:19:37] <gigaherz> because it won't matter, it's either 0 or 180

L645[09:20:00] <sham1> getthe angle for all axis

L646[09:20:05] <gigaherz> then you have axis+angl3e

L647[09:20:08] <gigaherz> angle*

L648[09:20:13] <gigaherz> from which you can build a quaternion

L649[09:20:17] <diesieben07> you are both confusing me greatly

L650[09:20:21] <gigaherz> and there's tools to translate a quaternion to a matrix

L651[09:20:21] <diesieben07> what the hell is a quaternion

L652[09:20:39] <gigaherz> a quaternion is a 4-component supercomplex number that can represent any 3D rotation

L653[09:20:56] <sham1> :D

L654[09:20:57] <diesieben07> supercomplex? why is this so stupidly hard

L655[09:20:59] <gigaherz> it's much morecompact than a matrix when you just need rotations

L656[09:21:07] <gigaherz> okay! it's a "thing"

L657[09:21:16] <gigaherz> that can represent 3D rotations with just 4 numbers

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L659[09:21:47] <ThePsionic> General Java coding style question, if I have an if-statement with a return at the end, should or shouldn't I put an else?

L660[09:22:13] <sham1> Not really

L661[09:22:15] <diesieben07> how does that help me...

L662[09:22:17] <gigaherz> diesieben07: look at google something like "rotation matrix from axis and angle"

L663[09:22:17] <sham1> Unless you want else-if

L664[09:22:41] <gigaherz> now

L665[09:22:42] <diesieben07> i dont even know how to get axis and angle :D

L666[09:22:50] <gigaherz> the axis from the cross product

L667[09:22:53] <diesieben07> i really just copied that formular i linked earlier

L668[09:23:07] <gigaherz> the angle from the dot product

L669[09:23:16] <diesieben07> ok

L670[09:23:19] <diesieben07> yeah makes sense

L671[09:23:24] <gigaherz> axis = dot(a,b).normalized()

L672[09:23:32] <gigaherz> angle = acos(dot(a,b))

L673[09:23:42] <gigaherz> eh

L674[09:23:45] <gigaherz> ais = cross**

L675[09:23:47] <gigaherz> axis*^

L676[09:23:50] * gigaherz sighs

L677[09:24:08] <gigaherz> there's special cases when the vectors are parallel

L678[09:24:27] <diesieben07> yes that special case is my issue

L679[09:24:34] <gigaherz> but those cases you can tell easily

L680[09:24:58] <diesieben07> basically my two vectors always only have ONE component set to either 1 or -1

L681[09:25:08] <gigaherz> uh

L682[09:25:12] <diesieben07> it all works except when they have 1 and -1 in the same position

L683[09:25:17] <gigaherz> then wtf do you need complex maths for? XD

L684[09:25:36] <diesieben07> because it is already done for me then and i dont need to think

L685[09:25:42] <diesieben07> i suck at imagining ANYHTING 3d like

L686[09:26:05] <sham1> Even though you live in a 3d world

L687[09:26:16] <diesieben07> shut up, ok ? :D

L688[09:26:23] <gigaherz> okay then

L689[09:26:26] <gigaherz> dot product

L690[09:26:31] <gigaherz> if the cross product is 0

L691[09:26:36] <gigaherz> dot product will either be 1 or -1

L692[09:26:48] <diesieben07> yea

L693[09:26:49] <gigaherz> if it's 1, the rotation is 0, matrix is identity

L694[09:27:03] <gigaherz> if it's -1, they are opposite, so the rotation matrix is ANY 180 degree rotation

L695[09:27:24] <gigaherz> there are infinite possibilities so you probably want to rotat around Y

L696[09:27:28] <gigaherz> which will leave "up" upwards

L697[09:27:55] <diesieben07> except i cannot choose just ANY axis

L698[09:28:11] <diesieben07> if the vectors are (0, -1, 0) and (0, 1, 0) and i roate 180 around Y

L699[09:28:13] <diesieben07> nothing happens

L700[09:28:40] <gigaherz> exactly

L701[09:28:42] <gigaherz> case by case ;P

L702[09:28:47] <gigaherz> you can't work around it

L703[09:28:50] <gigaherz> these ARE special cases

L704[09:28:54] <gigaherz> need special treatment

L705[09:29:32] <gigaherz> so I'd probably choose either X or Z, whichever happens to contain the "front" face, so that the front remains the front

L706[09:29:32] <diesieben07> :/

L707[09:29:41] <diesieben07> what the fuck is this stupid maths if it doesnt work universally

L708[09:29:43] <diesieben07> that deeply upsets me

L709[09:29:49] <gigaherz> because there's no universal answer

L710[09:30:00] <gigaherz> there are literally infinite ways to rotate something so that it's backward

L711[09:30:12] <gigaherz> it has infinite solutions, and none of them is better than the rest

L712[09:30:21] <diesieben07> ok so...

L713[09:30:21] <gigaherz> so you have to choose

L714[09:30:33] <diesieben07> so

L715[09:30:36] <gigaherz> if cross(a,b) is < epsilon

L716[09:30:41] <gigaherz> handle special cases here

L717[09:30:42] <gigaherz> else

L718[09:30:47] <gigaherz> general-purpose rotation matrix

L719[09:30:48] <gigaherz> endif

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L721[09:31:02] <diesieben07> yes, but how do i handle those? just... program in all by hand?

L722[09:31:06] <gigaherz> yup.

L723[09:31:06] <diesieben07> that is ridculously ugly

L724[09:31:10] <gigaherz> it's necessary.

L725[09:31:13] <diesieben07> fuck me

L726[09:31:30] <sham1> I'd rather not

L727[09:31:42] <diesieben07> hue hue

L728[09:31:44] <diesieben07> so

L729[09:31:55] <diesieben07> how do i get a rotation matrix that rotates 180 around a given axis?

L730[09:32:11] <gigaherz> the matrix library must have methodsfor it

L731[09:32:38] <diesieben07> no it doesnt.

L732[09:32:55] <diesieben07> it doesnt even have a "give me identity matrix"

L733[09:32:58] <gigaherz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotation_matrix#Basic_rotations

L734[09:33:03] <gigaherz> that library sucks then

L735[09:33:05] <gigaherz> badly.

L736[09:33:15] <diesieben07> its vecmath, it coms with minecraft

L737[09:33:21] <gigaherz> you may want to consider building the matrix with another library

L738[09:33:28] <gigaherz> and then transferring over the individual values

L739[09:33:44] <diesieben07> i am not bundling a library just for this shit

L740[09:34:16] <sham1> Make your own matrix manipulation lib into SevenCommons :P

L741[09:34:20] <diesieben07> meh

L742[09:34:27] <diesieben07> thanks for your help guys i think i can make this work now

L743[09:36:54] <Cazzar> Alsp

L744[09:37:06] <diesieben07> turns out i only need 1 special case after all

L745[09:37:22] <diesieben07> because the one vector is always (1, 0, 0)

L746[09:39:42] <diesieben07> yup, works :D

L747[09:40:06] <Cazzar> Also* the identity matrix is this https://www.opengl.org/sdk/docs/man2/xhtml/glLoadIdentity.xml

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L749[09:40:47] <diesieben07> yeh i am not in gl context tho

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L751[09:43:18] <Pennyw95> Hi guys, a little question...I'm in the process of coding some slabs, and I took for granted that all the methods that make slabs merge and be placed on either the upper or lower half of a 1x1x1 space were inside ItemSlab.class, so I extended that for my ItemBlock class. However, no matter where I aim, the slab gets always placed in the lower half of the space, unless there's another slab already. In the

L752[09:43:19] <Pennyw95> latter case, they merge. Am I missing something?

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L755[09:44:54] <Cazzar> diesieben07 I did some 3d model transformation stuff, referencing GO docs

L756[09:45:06] <Wuppy> I've got one of the hardest choices in life atm.... which pizza to get

L757[09:45:24] <Cazzar> GL docs* namely for the math.

L758[09:46:11] <gigaherz> Pennyw95: chances are the ItemBlock matters

L759[09:46:20] <gigaherz> you may need to have a custom ItemBlock for slabs

L760[09:46:29] <gigaherz> possibly inheriting from the slab's itemblock

L761[09:46:55] <Pennyw95> I made one extending ItemSlab, but just for the unlocalizedname

L762[09:47:02] <Wuppy> o____0 pizza with: Crème fraîche, mozzarella, red union, raclette, bacon & potato wedges

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L764[09:47:07] <Pennyw95> didn't override anything else

L765[09:47:14] <Wuppy> the creme fraiche replaces tomato sauce

L766[09:47:18] <gigaherz> hmm maybe check there

L767[09:47:20] <gigaherz> dunno

L768[09:47:28] <Wuppy> is that weird to you guys as well or might it actually be great?

L769[09:47:29] <laci200270> how can I store an enum in nbt?

L770[09:47:38] <gigaherz> Wuppy: I can't picture that being delicious XD

L771[09:47:48] <Wuppy> same here

L772[09:48:12] <Wuppy> doesn't make my choice any easier though...

L773[09:48:46] <gigaherz> well my choice for pizza is usually something like tomato sauce, bacon, ham, onion, cheese

L774[09:48:46] <Wuppy> there's 12 amazing pizzas... how does one make a choice from that

L775[09:49:11] <Wuppy> have you ever tried a pizza with bbq sauce instead of tomato?

L776[09:49:37] <gigaherz> I have had bbq pizza with ground meat and bbq sauce

L777[09:49:44] <gigaherz> but I don't like bbq sauce so much

L778[09:49:51] <Wuppy> o________________________________________0

L779[09:50:23] <gigaherz> it's too strong ;P

L780[09:50:32] <gigaherz> I tend to dislike overly strong flavours

L781[09:50:38] <Wuppy> one pizza which is actually very delicious, tomato sauce, mozerella, leg-ham and honey-mustard sauce on top

L782[09:50:58] <gigaherz> never had that sauce

L783[09:51:01] <gigaherz> never heard of it even

L784[09:51:09] <Wuppy> you know honey and mustard

L785[09:51:12] <laci200270> how can I store an enum in nbt?

L786[09:51:12] <Wuppy> combine that

L787[09:51:14] <Pennyw95> @gigaherz I think I got it, I missed to add slab's properties in getMetaFromState

L788[09:51:14] <gigaherz> possibly not something we use in Spain ;P

L789[09:51:20] <Wuppy> I don't like mustard but togehter, it's glorious

L790[09:51:25] <Wuppy> spain :O

L791[09:51:26] <Unh0ly_Tigg> laci200270, if you know that the enum definitions aren't going to change, store the value of the enum's ordinal

L792[09:51:29] <Wuppy> there's so much great food there

L793[09:51:46] <Wuppy> I went to Sevilla and Cordoba once, amazing country :)

L794[09:51:50] <gigaherz> and half of it I don't even like ;P

L795[09:51:53] <Unh0ly_Tigg> definitions in terms of what order they are in.

L796[09:51:56] <laci200270> and how I decode it?

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L798[09:52:32] <Unh0ly_Tigg> lets say it's EnumFacing, you would use EnumFacing.values()[ordinal]

L799[09:52:44] <ThePsionic> So, I'll be making this - should I make it an actual timed event? ;3 http://undertale.wikia.com/wiki/Instant_Noodles#Flavor_Text

L800[09:54:44] <Wuppy> I should just get dominos several times a week, that would make the choice much easier :P

L801[09:55:00] <gigaherz> I can't have pizza that often

L802[09:55:04] <gigaherz> XD

L803[09:55:07] <Wuppy> why not?

L804[09:55:13] <gigaherz> I jsut don't feel like it

L805[09:55:16] <Unh0ly_Tigg> I had pizza for lunch and dinner yesterday...

L806[09:55:27] <Wuppy> Unh0ly_Tigg, you're living the life man!

L807[09:55:28] <Wuppy> :P

L808[09:55:47] <gigaherz> it's just not a food I can eat often

L809[09:55:51] <ThePsionic> Wuppy, opinion pls

L810[09:55:53] <ThePsionic> :3

L811[09:56:06] <Unh0ly_Tigg> lunch was a home baked freshetta, and dinner was pizza hut

L812[09:56:09] <gigaherz> a week later I still feel like not enough time has passed so I still don't feel like I should

L813[09:56:26] <gigaherz> and it's Domino's

L814[09:56:31] <gigaherz> not just a random pizza place ;P

L815[09:56:44] <Wuppy> Dominos is great :)

L816[09:56:52] <Wuppy> ThePsionic, no clue, what's that for? minecraft mod?

L817[09:56:53] <gigaherz> ofc that doesn't mean it's the same over there as in here

L818[09:57:12] <gigaherz> worst thing about Domino's is they have pepsi-brand drinks, instead of cocacola ;P

L819[09:57:15] <ThePsionic> yes Wuppy

L820[09:57:17] <Wuppy> FRESCHETTA® Thin & Crispy Canadian Style Bacon & Pineapple Pizza :<

L821[09:57:27] <ThePsionic> The main question is "should I build in a literal four-minute wait"

L822[09:57:29] <Wuppy> this is called Hawaii pizza, none of that crazy Canadian stuff

L823[09:57:44] <Wuppy> ThePsionic, how about a slightly shorter wait

L824[09:57:59] <ThePsionic> hmm

L825[09:58:02] <ThePsionic> Could do a minute total

L826[09:58:23] <Wuppy> oh by the way, ThePsionic, did you know that NS sucks?

L827[09:58:33] <gigaherz> ThePsionic: maybe something like 10s every "minute"

L828[09:58:56] <ThePsionic> gigaherz: It's now on 15s, but I'm going to test it out still anyway

L829[09:59:04] <ThePsionic> Wuppy: Yes

L830[09:59:21] <Wuppy> it took me THREE god damn hours to travel a bit which is 30 minutes normally

L831[09:59:26] <Unh0ly_Tigg> oh, and Wuppy, we're talking "I had 1 whole pizza, not just 1 or 2 slices" each time.

L832[09:59:50] <Wuppy> there were dozens of people in one line to go to Tilburg, 6 busses went to another place with liek 3 people in them, nothign for us

L833[09:59:52] <gigaherz> I can't eat 1 whole pizza either

L834[09:59:57] <gigaherz> well I can the tiny ones

L835[10:00:02] <Wuppy> Unh0ly_Tigg, like I said, you're living the life :D

L836[10:00:10] <gigaherz> but the "normal" size

L837[10:00:13] <ThePsionic> Now I want pizza

L838[10:00:16] <gigaherz> I'm satisfied with half

L839[10:00:20] <gigaherz> full with 3/4

L840[10:00:34] <Unh0ly_Tigg> and since I'm still living "at home", I don't even have to pay for my pizza...

L841[10:00:53] <Unh0ly_Tigg> well, I don't have to pay for it myself

L842[10:00:57] <FerretPL> hey

L843[10:01:21] <Unh0ly_Tigg> wait, today is sunday...

L844[10:01:26] <ThePsionic> sure is

L845[10:01:30] <gigaherz> yup

L846[10:01:51] <ThePsionic> good day for pizza, i'd say

L847[10:01:54] <Unh0ly_Tigg> which means that tomorrow a new episode of one punch man is available on the site I use to watch it.

L848[10:02:03] <ThePsionic> that's good too

L849[10:02:10] <ThePsionic> anyway

L850[10:02:15] <ThePsionic> time to fallout 4

L851[10:02:18] <Wuppy> shoarma pizza on the way :D

L852[10:02:23] <Wuppy> ThePsionic, it sure is a good day for pizza

L853[10:02:27] <Wuppy> especially with a slight hangover

L854[10:02:43] <Unh0ly_Tigg> and then wednesday, I leave for california to visit my relatives for thanksgiving.

L855[10:02:48] <Pennyw95> Is this something that really needs byte ops or just some hipster thing? getDefaultState().withProperty(VARIANT, StoneType.values()[(meta & 0x7)]);

L856[10:02:52] <Wuppy> mostly because of lack of sleep becuase even though we left the party before it was done, NS managed to delay us so much I was home at 5AM :c

L857[10:04:19] <Wuppy> but at least I always get a nice discount (regardless of which pizza) at Dominos :D

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L859[10:06:22] <FerretPL> fuuuuuxxx

L860[10:06:24] <FerretPL> fux

L861[10:06:31] <Wuppy> ?

L862[10:07:09] <unascribed> Pennyw95, it makes the StoneType value only use the bottom 3 bits of the meta, so the top bit can be used for something else

L863[10:07:59] <Pennyw95> ok, thanks :)

L864[10:08:04] <FerretPL> my mom has broken leg with(insert medical name for situation when broken bone pieces moved from each other here) and i have to stay at home! but i have a project for school

L865[10:08:30] <Cazzar> Therefore it guarantees the result to be: 0-7

L866[10:08:32] <FerretPL> shieeeet

L867[10:08:49] <FerretPL> now i probably wont pass to next class

L868[10:09:41] <Wuppy> FerretPL, I'm sure they'd understand if you explain the situation

L869[10:09:48] <FerretPL> no they wont

L870[10:10:02] <diesieben07> fuck yes.

L871[10:10:04] <diesieben07> it works!

L872[10:10:07] <FerretPL> im actually not going to pass and this was my last chance

L873[10:10:28] <sham1> yya

L874[10:10:39] <FerretPL> AND THAT BUG/PROBLEM WITH INVISIBLE ITEMS IS STILL PRESENT...

L875[10:10:45] <FerretPL> sry for caps

L876[10:12:09] <FerretPL> fuuuux

L877[10:12:10] <Cazzar> FerretPL get the doctor to sign something for you if you can :P

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L879[10:12:22] <FerretPL> i cannot unfortunatelly

L880[10:12:49] <FerretPL> they can only give me papers that i am helping my mother but this isnt enough

L881[10:13:21] <FerretPL> and i have therapy scheduled for tomorrow :C

L882[10:13:34] <FerretPL> life's a bitch :'C

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L884[10:15:12] <Cazzar> That theoretically should be in most cases.

L885[10:16:10] <FerretPL> GUYS GUYS! i found out what was causing the problem with mc!

L886[10:16:29] <heldplayer> Is it MC?

L887[10:16:38] <FerretPL> yes and no

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L889[10:17:41] <FerretPL> ill test once again

L890[10:17:54] <FerretPL> but the problem disappeared when i removed iron chests

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L892[10:20:08] <FerretPL> guys...? is ironchests mod compatible with holoinventory?

L893[10:22:19] <FerretPL> well aftere removing iron chests it kinda works

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L896[10:26:21] <Wuppy> woohoo pizza

L897[10:26:31] <ThePsionic> First impression of Fallout 4

L898[10:26:40] <ThePsionic> Bethesda: "How the fuck do I baby"

L899[10:26:42] <Wuppy> great?

L900[10:26:56] <FerretPL> i luv f4

L901[10:27:39] <Wuppy> I havent gotten it yet

L902[10:32:40] <FerretPL> is ironchests mod incompatible with any other mod?

L903[10:32:47] <FerretPL> theres nothing on forum topic

L904[10:32:59] <sham1> Yes it is compatible with other mods

L905[10:33:04] <gigaherz> I'm not aware of any explicit incompatibility

L906[10:33:08] <gigaherz> sham1: it says incompatible XD

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L908[10:34:01] <sham1> I said that as in

L909[10:34:05] <sham1> It is compatible

L910[10:34:11] <sham1> AKA it is not incompatible

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L913[10:34:33] <FerretPL> well the problem dissapeared when i removed ironchests

L914[10:35:06] <gigaherz> that may not be ironchests' fault though

L915[10:35:25] <FerretPL> wait ill give you my modlist again

L916[10:36:35] <FerretPL> http://pastebin.com/ZJ6zrvb5

L917[10:38:47] <gigaherz> sorry as I said I'm not aware of any incompatibility

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L919[10:39:11] <FerretPL> well

L920[10:39:42] <FerretPL> if it makes not sense but it work then i shouldnt examine it

L921[10:39:48] <FerretPL> just accept it

L922[10:40:48] <gigaherz> never "just accept it" ;P

L923[10:41:17] <gigaherz> a good scientific mind questions everything

L924[10:42:37] <FerretPL> after fuxing with it for 6 hours im tired of it :p like my drugs. i take SSRIs, i dont why they work but they work and im not gonna question it

L925[10:42:43] <gigaherz> oh sure

L926[10:43:10] <gigaherz> you can leave the question unanswered, just so long as you remember that it is an unsolved question

L927[10:43:14] <gigaherz> ;P

L928[10:44:34] <FerretPL> ill try to find the cause of problem tomorrow or after i finish a few contracts

L929[10:44:45] <FerretPL> deadline's tomorrow

L930[10:48:05] <Wuppy> o____0

L931[10:48:07] <Wuppy> what did esper do this time

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L937[10:58:28] <heldplayer> http://puu.sh/luKfu.png ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L938[10:59:15] <sham1> umn

L939[10:59:34] <sham1> okay then

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L941[11:01:03] <Wuppy> heldplayer, seems like you dun goofed

L942[11:01:26] <heldplayer> The water still seems to be here

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L944[11:07:16] <ThePsionic> heldplayer: cooked_fished?

L945[11:07:36] <heldplayer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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L948[11:12:26] <Wuppy> :C I've almost watched every single south park episode made so far.... does anyone know another comedy show which can be enjoyed even when braindead?

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L951[11:18:09] <Soni> how many classes are related to the particle system?

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L956[11:20:32] <AbrarSyed> Wuppy, COmmunity

L957[11:21:04] <Wuppy> I never got why people liked that series, but I should actually check out an entire season for once

L958[11:21:44] <williewillus> is 1.8.8 available on gradle? noticed a non-noci branch was created

L959[11:21:53] <ThePsionic> Wuppy: It doesn't whether you watch one episode in order or the entire series in a random order

L960[11:21:57] <ThePsionic> It makes about as much sense

L961[11:22:05] <ThePsionic> doesn't matter*

L962[11:22:12] <ThePsionic> and one season*

L963[11:22:25] <Wuppy> ThePsionic, watching only small segments of episodes sometimes vs watching a few in any order does make a difference though

L964[11:22:33] <ThePsionic> True

L965[11:22:33] <AbrarSyed> williewillus, dont think so..

L966[11:22:59] <williewillus> okay a little longer then :p

L967[11:23:32] <FerretPL> ok *dumb question incoming* is it true that 1.7.2 mods are compatible with 1.7.10?

L968[11:23:41] <gigaherz> not really

L969[11:23:54] <gigaherz> however,

L970[11:24:18] <gigaherz> a small subset of mods, which happen to use only methods and classes from those that didn't change

L971[11:24:25] <gigaherz> may work

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L973[11:24:52] <FerretPL> what parts of code changed in 1.7.10 update

L974[11:25:04] <Unh0ly_Tigg> yeah, I had a version of one of my mods be compatible with both, but I had to update it to work with a change to the event system.

L975[11:25:18] <gigaherz> I don't know from memory ;P

L976[11:25:20] <progwml6> williewillus noci means its not getting built

L977[11:25:32] <AbrarSyed> can build it manually :)

L978[11:25:47] <williewillus> I know, but a normal 1.8.8 branch that wasn't there yesterday just got made so I got excited :p

L979[11:26:49] <FerretPL> well i only see realm changes and some bugfixes

L980[11:27:16] <FerretPL> so in theory i think they should work but i may be totally wrong

L981[11:32:21] <FerretPL> guys do you know any place where i can get forged papers?

L982[11:32:41] <FerretPL> i want to go to work but to do so i have to be 18

L983[11:33:17] <williewillus> deep web probably lol

L984[11:33:30] <FerretPL> i checked but ive got no bitcoin wallet

L985[11:33:36] <Soni> FerretPL, emancipation?

L986[11:35:23] <FerretPL> emanci-what? sry my english isnt good enough :/

L987[11:36:05] <gigaherz> many countries have "emancipation laws", which allow your parents to sign papers that give you adult status a few years early

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L989[11:36:17] <FerretPL> im 13 so yeah

L990[11:36:23] <gigaherz> ah that wouldn't do

L991[11:36:27] <gigaherz> 13 is child labor ;P

L992[11:36:27] <FerretPL> and my mother is quite stupid :c

L993[11:36:32] <FerretPL> i dont care

L994[11:37:27] <FerretPL> im currently doing contracts using my fake identity but id like full time job

L995[11:37:36] <FerretPL> and no useless school

L996[11:39:06] <FerretPL> UE law is stupid :C social rights? human rights? child rights? well i wipe my ass with those

L997[11:39:34] <FerretPL> fuck socialism(i smell ban incoming)

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L999[11:40:51] <FerretPL> sry GTG deadline getting closer and closer

L1000[11:40:55] <FerretPL> bye guys

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L1002[11:44:43] <williewillus> UE?

L1003[11:45:30] <gigaherz> maybe he means EU (european union)

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L1005[11:46:11] <sham1> Well I think in French UE means European Union

L1006[11:46:21] <sham1> Not sure though

L1007[11:46:42] <gigaherz> yeah

L1008[11:46:46] <gigaherz> spanish too

L1009[11:47:09] <gigaherz> FerretPL (~FerretPL@89-74-12-11.dynamic.chello.pl) ... polish?

L1010[11:47:10] <gigaherz> no idea

L1011[11:47:40] <sham1> pl might be poland

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L1014[11:51:10] <Unh0ly_Tigg> wait, there's a WIP forge 1.8.8 branch, but there's no mcp snapshots/releases for 1.8.8...

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L1018[11:52:36] <Unh0ly_Tigg> https://www.google.com/search?q=country%20code%20pl shows pl is in fact poland

L1019[11:53:00] <ThePsionic> Unh0ly_Tigg: I could have told you that

L1020[11:53:08] <ThePsionic> ...if I were actually looking at IRC

L1021[11:53:10] <Tahg> which?

L1022[11:53:43] <ThePsionic> Done my assignment, now back to FO4

L1023[11:54:39] <Tahg> heh

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L1025[11:54:50] <Tahg> that seems to be the popular game currently

L1026[11:55:40] <Tahg> tho I'm more into ACS

L1027[11:56:00] <gigaherz> I didnt' find syndicate appealing

L1028[11:56:16] <gigaherz> Unity was fund, despite the bugs and issues

L1029[11:56:19] <gigaherz> fun*

L1030[11:56:39] <gigaherz> fallout is just not my type of game

L1031[11:56:44] <gigaherz> too shooter-ish

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L1034[12:06:31] <heldplayer> I remember there being a way to schedule things to be executed on world threads and the main server thread, anybody know how to do this exactly?

L1035[12:06:36] <heldplayer> In 1.8 :P

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L1037[12:07:36] <williewillus> addScheduledTask(runnable) in either Minecraft or a MinecraftServer obj

L1038[12:08:14] <heldplayer> Cheers ^^

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L1040[12:10:39] <Wuppy> I should start doing something today...

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L1042[12:11:32] <heldplayer> No way to schedule on the world's thread?

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L1044[12:12:40] <heldplayer> nvm, found it, need to cast to WorldServer

L1045[12:17:00] <williewillus> worlds aren't threaded lol

L1046[12:17:18] <williewillus> the WorldServer's addScheduledTask simply calls the server's

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L1049[12:23:46] <heldplayer> Wait, they didn't make worlds threaded in 1.8? Everything I know is a lie D:

L1050[12:25:15] <ThePsionic> hmm

L1051[12:25:27] <ThePsionic> could be my style of playing but Fallout 4 seems a bit slow to start

L1052[12:25:30] <diesieben07> they made a bit of infrastructure for it but thats about it

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L1054[12:29:41] <MalkContent> god where do i configure this stupid lightsource in blender

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L1056[12:29:53] <MalkContent> why am i so rusty in this and why is the gui differeeent

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L1058[12:32:20] <MalkContent> there it is

L1059[12:33:04] <Poppy> is there a simple way to find out my block's been mined with an automaton?

L1060[12:33:13] <Poppy> quarries, digiminers etc

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L1062[12:33:32] <Pennyw95> Uhm...do you have any idea why this is happening? Unable to load definition tknowledge:tk_stairs_qs#facing=east,half=top,shape=outer_right

L1063[12:34:04] <Pennyw95> all those variants and models are inside the blockstates jsons as they should, and the model jsons do exist so...I have no idea...

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L1066[12:36:46] <williewillus> Poppy: block break events?

L1067[12:37:03] <williewillus> BlockEvent.BreakEvent has a player field, check if that's null or instance of a EntityFakePlayaer

L1068[12:38:22] <williewillus> Pennyw95: is the json named the same name as the block's registered name? (blockstates/tk_stairs_qs.json)

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L1071[12:39:17] <Thutmose> is there anything else I should change/add/remove for https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/pull/2193 ?

L1072[12:41:32] <Pennyw95> @williewillus yes...here is wqhta I have http://pastebin.com/MvPaMGdZ

L1073[12:42:01] <williewillus> hm post the json maybe?

L1074[12:42:28] <Pennyw95> blockstates?

L1075[12:42:53] <MalkContent> http://sinister-lore.de/picdump/untitled3.png , http://sinister-lore.de/picdump/untitled4.png , thoughts?

L1076[12:42:55] <Pennyw95> http://pastebin.com/qviR79ev

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L1078[12:49:23] <williewillus> hm looks okay to me...I'd personally skip the pain and redo the models in the forge submodel format lol

L1079[12:49:28] <williewillus> but not sure why

L1080[12:49:40] <Pennyw95> If I recall correctly, ModelBakery.addVariantName and getItemModelMesher are not relevant to rendering the plced block, right?

L1081[12:50:03] <Pennyw95> yeah I'll probably try switching to forge and see if something happens

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L1083[12:50:17] <Pennyw95> or maybe try it a cube_all json first to see if it at least sees it

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L1085[12:51:38] <AbrarSyed> whats the kotlin file neding? anyone know?

L1086[12:56:12] <Pennyw95> @williewillus problem solved. A stupid " was missing...thanks for your help :)

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L1088[12:57:42] <MalkContent> was that "redo in forge submodel" directed at me? x)

L1089[12:58:13] <Pennyw95> no, at me

L1090[12:58:27] <MalkContent> k. i was confused

L1091[12:58:45] <Pennyw95> cool model btw...what is it for?

L1092[12:59:39] <MalkContent> you know nitor from thaumcraft?

L1093[13:00:28] <Pennyw95> only thing is, doesn't look quite cuboid...might give trouble

L1094[13:00:31] <Pennyw95> sure

L1095[13:00:43] <Wuppy> does anyone here know javscript?

L1096[13:01:12] <MalkContent> it's a cage that closes around nitor

L1097[13:01:19] <MalkContent> so you can have redstone triggered nitor light

L1098[13:01:36] <MalkContent> which, fancy lightsource aside, is also nice for powering the crucible

L1099[13:01:43] <Pennyw95> Oh cool..so you're working on an addon?

L1100[13:01:44] <Wuppy> is there a prettier way to do this?

L1101[13:01:46] <Wuppy> http://pastebin.com/Lt204J3b

L1102[13:02:21] <MalkContent> mostly i'm just working on the model for now. maybe i can catch azanor with that and he just puts it into tc itself

L1103[13:02:28] <MalkContent> if not it goes in the addon

L1104[13:02:46] <Pennyw95> I see

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L1112[13:41:22] <williewillus> is there a limit to the number of cubes in a vanilla model?

L1113[13:41:33] <williewillus> besides lag :p

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L1115[13:42:57] <gigaherz> not that I know of

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L1117[13:46:56] <MalkContent> gigaherz, judge: http://sinister-lore.de/picdump/untitled3.png , http://sinister-lore.de/picdump/untitled4.png

L1118[13:47:53] <gigaherz> fancy, but within reason

L1119[13:48:11] <gigaherz> I'd have to see it within minecraft ;P

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L1121[13:52:34] <williewillus> wtf

L1122[13:52:53] <williewillus> I'm porting a 1.7 mod and I've never seen this: 1 - sideInt. What does that do, get the opposite of a side?

L1123[13:53:43] <MalkContent> yay :)

L1124[13:53:59] <MalkContent> good enough to have a go at implementing

L1125[13:54:12] <gigaherz> williewillus: presumably

L1126[13:54:30] <williewillus> but it would give you negative numvers, unless 1.7 vanilla was okay with that

L1127[13:54:43] <gigaherz> wait 1-side hmmm

L1128[13:54:46] <williewillus> whatever just gonna do what Ive been doing so far : "// todo 1.8 wtf"

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L1131[13:57:11] <williewillus> also what EnumWorldBlockLayer do the old block render passes map to? there's a block method called getBlockRenderPass returning 1

L1132[13:57:17] <williewillus> presumably its an enum now

L1133[14:00:21] <gigaherz> where was getBlockRenderPass?

L1134[14:01:02] <gigaherz> !gc getBlockRenderPass 1.7.10

L1135[14:01:03] <williewillus> getRenderBlockPass*

L1136[14:01:07] <williewillus> Block class

L1137[14:01:10] <gigaherz> ah

L1138[14:01:22] <gigaherz> I don't think that exists anymore

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L1141[14:04:00] <williewillus> but shouldn't that map to a enumworldblocklayer in 1.8?

L1142[14:04:04] <williewillus> idk which to which

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L1146[14:10:43] <williewillus> also, what's the difference between scheduleBlockUpdate and scheduleUpate in world in 1.8? similar names, first one has extra param

L1147[14:10:47] <williewillus> but their impls look very different

L1148[14:11:57] <williewillus> nvm someone renamed it >.<

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L1150[14:33:21] <Poppy> I remember someone mentioning a library which allowed for taking care of all the special cases of things breaking a block, does anyone happen to know what it was called?

L1151[14:34:17] <Ivorius> Just override breakBlock

L1152[14:34:20] <Ivorius> That's all cases.

L1153[14:34:26] <LexManos> Its called Forge....

L1154[14:34:51] <sham1> Nice

L1155[14:35:02] <Ivorius> Forge sounds neat

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L1157[14:35:45] <sham1> yes

L1158[14:35:58] <Poppy> breakBlock is a little threadbare with the information it provides

L1159[14:36:50] <Poppy> doesn't handle you the player, for example

L1160[14:37:41] <Poppy> so I can't tell if the block was broken with st, fortune, in creative, fake player

L1161[14:38:17] <williewillus> why wouldn't the block break events work for what you want?

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L1163[14:41:14] <Poppy> hm, it actually might

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L1169[14:48:46] <williewillus> ANDing a meta with -9 turns off the uppermost bit right?

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L1172[14:57:14] <diesieben07> williewillus, you should do ~0b1000

L1173[14:57:17] <diesieben07> MUCH clearer ;)

L1174[14:57:23] <diesieben07> so meta & ~0b1000

L1175[14:57:27] <williewillus> reading someone elses code lol

L1176[14:57:44] <diesieben07> then yes

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L1180[15:11:15] <ThePsionic> I currently have an event which lasts for 1360 ticks

L1181[15:11:17] <ThePsionic> This should be fun

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L1184[15:14:53] <FerretPL> JESUS MOTHERFUCKING CHRIST 6 hours of fucking with those mods just to find out that THROPHY MOD WAS CAUSING THIS?!

L1185[15:15:45] <ThePsionic> lmao

L1186[15:15:46] <MalkContent> damn dude

L1187[15:15:55] <MalkContent> why didnt you just remove half the mods

L1188[15:16:04] <FerretPL> well i did

L1189[15:16:05] <MalkContent> and narrow it down that way

L1190[15:16:14] <FerretPL> but i fucked up...

L1191[15:16:18] <MalkContent> :D

L1192[15:16:27] <FerretPL> i think i just overlooked it

L1193[15:17:17] <ThePsionic> Hm. Damnit.

L1194[15:17:26] <ThePsionic> All the things trigger at once.

L1195[15:18:21] <williewillus> lol what was happening

L1196[15:18:30] <ThePsionic> Oh duh

L1197[15:18:36] <ThePsionic> I'm not actually using the tick system

L1198[15:18:59] <ThePsionic> I'm just looping with an integer, which goes pretty damn fast

L1199[15:20:05] <ThePsionic> How do I get the current time in ticks again? world.getTotalWorldTime?

L1200[15:20:28] <diesieben07> yup

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L1202[15:20:58] * FerretPL tests /me

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L1205[15:21:20] <FerretPL> jesus christ

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L1207[15:21:32] <FerretPL> outta ssris...

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L1209[15:22:33] <williewillus> how do i get idea to show all javac errosr not just the first x many

L1210[15:23:05] <ThePsionic> Well then.

L1211[15:23:08] <ThePsionic> That definitely broke

L1212[15:24:01] <ThePsionic> https://gist.github.com/ThePsionic/39d217aea7fc3ce592a8 wat do

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L1216[15:39:17] <diesieben07> ThePsionic, dude. that is a joke, right?

L1217[15:39:40] * ThePsionic sits in silence

L1218[15:40:07] <diesieben07> translate("item.instantnoodles.time." + passedTime);

L1219[15:40:08] <diesieben07> done.

L1220[15:40:09] <diesieben07> 1 line.

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L1222[15:40:38] <OrionOnline> Hello

L1223[15:41:08] <ThePsionic> diesieben07: Oh I thought you meant the while(true) thing

L1224[15:41:21] <diesieben07> that is even worse :D

L1225[15:41:30] <diesieben07> you need task scheduling

L1226[15:41:34] <diesieben07> if you need a class for it, say so

L1227[15:41:41] <ThePsionic> Sure, throw it at me

L1228[15:42:09] <diesieben07> https://goo.gl/VMK2c3

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L1230[15:43:58] <OrionOnline> Do you guys know of a way to convert unique ID of a player into a EntityPlayer? (Server side only)

L1231[15:44:10] <diesieben07> mc version?

L1232[15:44:32] <OrionOnline> 1.7.70

L1233[15:44:47] <OrionOnline> 1.7.10*

L1234[15:45:19] <diesieben07> you have to loop through all players (MinecraftServer#playerEnityList) and check

L1235[15:45:25] <OrionOnline> Ah oke

L1236[15:45:32] <OrionOnline> That would be possible

L1237[15:46:18] <ThePsionic> diesieben07: I'll have to grab those other two imports of yours as well?

L1238[15:46:26] <diesieben07> yea

L1239[15:46:35] <diesieben07> you'll also have to call tick()

L1240[15:47:02] <diesieben07> happens e.g. here: https://goo.gl/z50UCh

L1241[15:48:35] <TehNut> Alternatively you could poll the Mojang API

L1242[15:48:47] <diesieben07> that won't give you the EntityPlayer

L1243[15:48:52] <diesieben07> it would give you the username

L1244[15:48:53] <TehNut> That gets you a player name

L1245[15:48:57] <TehNut> That you can turn into a player

L1246[15:49:20] <diesieben07> but you dont need to do that step

L1247[15:49:23] <ThePsionic> Hmm, the only thing it's complaining about is JavaUtils @ diesieben07

L1248[15:49:27] <diesieben07> its a HTTP request...

L1249[15:50:35] <diesieben07> ThePsionic, remove this part: https://goo.gl/W2X26K then change these two: https://goo.gl/XXLhFI to include a "new SchedulerNonUnsafe()"

L1250[15:50:53] <diesieben07> then remove SchedulerUnsafe class

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L1252[15:53:35] <ThePsionic> Top, no more errors at least

L1253[15:53:45] <ThePsionic> Now to figure out how to implement it in my situation

L1254[15:53:47] <diesieben07> for how to use... read the javadocs :P

L1255[15:54:24] <diesieben07> this method is probably what you want: https://goo.gl/OI6IEx

L1256[15:55:03] * ThePsionic does not actually know what a Runnable is

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L1258[15:55:19] <diesieben07> something that you can run.

L1259[15:55:26] <diesieben07> its an interface with a single method void run();

L1260[15:55:41] <diesieben07> if you pass a runnable to that method, it will call that run() method on that runnable X ticks later

L1261[15:56:27] <ThePsionic> What do you reckon I should use in my case, diesieben07

L1262[15:56:53] <diesieben07> well from your code i gathered you wnat messages to appear like "in 20 seconds"

L1263[15:56:54] <diesieben07> right?

L1264[15:57:54] <ThePsionic> Yes

L1265[15:58:45] <diesieben07> then you do something like Scheduler.server().schedule(new Runnable() { void run() { /* add message here!*/ } }, <delay in ticks>);

L1266[15:59:00] <diesieben07> the stuff inside that run method will run however many ticks oyu specify later.

L1267[15:59:06] <ThePsionic> Oh okay, that's easy enough

L1268[16:03:39] <ThePsionic> Hurrah for Java 8 and lambdas

L1269[16:05:17] <diesieben07> definitely 100% very true

L1270[16:06:33] <shadowfacts> <3 lambdas

L1271[16:06:37] <shadowfacts> and streams

L1272[16:06:43] <shadowfacts> and interface defaults

L1273[16:06:48] <shadowfacts> and nashorn

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L1275[16:07:09] <gabizou> I hjonestly couldn't care for nashorn, but the rest of that is amazing.

L1276[16:07:33] <ThePsionic> this is why i refuse to code with java 6 compat

L1277[16:07:45] <diesieben07> streams are pretty cool

L1278[16:07:50] <diesieben07> although very unoptimized

L1279[16:07:59] <diesieben07> and therefor overkill for small collections:D

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L1281[16:14:51] <ThePsionic> Hrm

L1282[16:14:59] <ThePsionic> It doesn't seem to actually work ._.

L1283[16:15:18] <diesieben07> you are calling tick() right? :D

L1284[16:15:26] <diesieben07> otherwis the scheduler has no idea when ticks happe

L1285[16:16:35] <ThePsionic> er

L1286[16:16:36] <ThePsionic> hm

L1287[16:16:37] <ThePsionic> no

L1288[16:17:50] <diesieben07> in ServerTickEvent call tick on the server one, same for client

L1289[16:18:19] <diesieben07> example: https://goo.gl/z50UCh

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L1291[16:19:48] <AbrarSyed> someone gimme a 1.8 AT line

L1292[16:21:00] * gigaherz has never used an AT

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L1294[16:24:53] <ThePsionic> diesieben07: I was wondering why it didn't work, and I think I know why now

L1295[16:25:13] <ThePsionic> I have doDaylightCycle set to false in my world

L1296[16:25:46] <ThePsionic> Or should that not matter

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L1299[16:29:37] <Girafi> Is there any reason that Forge for 1.8 and 1.8.8 is using the same MCP mappings in the build.gradle bye default ? ^^

L1300[16:30:03] <gigaherz> 1.8.8?

L1301[16:30:19] <Girafi> The 1.8.8 alpha came out not so long ago :p

L1302[16:30:26] <gigaherz> interesting

L1303[16:30:32] <gigaherz> and no, they should not be using the same mappings

L1304[16:30:47] <theFlaxbeard> Is there any way to tell if a RenderPlayerEvent is firing in the inventory screen?

L1305[16:31:10] <diesieben07> ThePsionic, that should not matter. also what exactly is not working?

L1306[16:31:15] <Girafi> Well I figured that is why I was asking. I guess cpw just forgot to change that before putting out the build :p

L1307[16:31:59] <diesieben07> theFlaxbeard, event.player == mc.thePlayer && mc.currentScreen instanceof GuiInventory

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L1309[16:32:14] <theFlaxbeard> diesieben07: Thanks!

L1310[16:32:25] <ThePsionic> diesieben07: https://gist.github.com/ThePsionic/0450e9dce44ce1c1da8f The first message appears as expected but any after that never show up

L1311[16:32:50] <diesieben07> ThePsionic, remove the serverside only

L1312[16:32:59] <diesieben07> do not ever ever use @SideOnly if you dont understand it :D

L1313[16:33:03] <ThePsionic> Oh duh

L1314[16:33:09] <gigaherz> Girafi: well it's a matter of time until it's working

L1315[16:33:11] <gigaherz> patience ;P

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L1317[16:33:25] <ThePsionic> Wait diesieben07 you mean in the handler?

L1318[16:33:30] <diesieben07> yes on the vent handler

L1319[16:33:33] <gigaherz> we have been watigin months, wecan wait an extra day ;P

L1320[16:33:37] <gigaherz> waiting*^

L1321[16:33:38] <diesieben07> @SideOnly(side.server) means onyl dedicated server

L1322[16:33:40] <gigaherz> we can*

L1323[16:33:44] <diesieben07> therefor it will never fire in SP

L1324[16:33:51] <Girafi> Yeah I know ^^ Kinda asked the question to pay attention to it :p

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L1326[16:34:18] <theFlaxbeard> diesieben07: This will also fire if the player is rendering in third person while accessing their inventory though, correct? Just an edge case but still

L1327[16:34:33] <williewillus> oh nice 1.8.8 is on gradle now nice

L1328[16:34:34] <diesieben07> uhm... true

L1329[16:34:38] <diesieben07> hmm let me check

L1330[16:34:45] <theFlaxbeard> diesieben07: Testing right now

L1331[16:35:10] <diesieben07> oh

L1332[16:35:19] <diesieben07> check if x,y,z are all 0

L1333[16:35:23] <diesieben07> that should like... never happen

L1334[16:35:27] <diesieben07> unless in inventory :D

L1335[16:37:37] <ThePsionic> Hrmmm

L1336[16:37:42] <ThePsionic> it's still not working diesieben07

L1337[16:38:02] <Girafi> williewillus, well it's just the first alpha :p

L1338[16:38:16] <theFlaxbeard> diesieben07: What's the class for the creative inventory?

L1339[16:38:20] <williewillus> still means I can port something that shouldn't change much :p

L1340[16:38:30] <diesieben07> ThePsionic, first of all why are you doing this on th eclinet? you should check for !isRemote

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L1342[16:38:41] <diesieben07> theFlaxbeard, GuiContainerCreative

L1343[16:38:58] <theFlaxbeard> Thanks! The 0 0 0 wasn't working but the edge case isn't a big deal

L1344[16:39:12] <diesieben07> it should have been working...

L1345[16:39:18] <diesieben07> which x, y, z did you check?

L1346[16:39:33] <theFlaxbeard> mc.thePlayer.posX etc

L1347[16:39:37] <diesieben07> well, duh

L1348[16:39:39] <diesieben07> not that :D

L1349[16:39:42] <diesieben07> you need to check event.x

L1350[16:39:44] <theFlaxbeard> oh

L1351[16:39:45] <theFlaxbeard> derp

L1352[16:39:47] <theFlaxbeard> right

L1353[16:39:53] <theFlaxbeard> there's only one thePlayer

L1354[16:41:24] <ThePsionic> diesieben07: sadly,

L1355[16:42:10] * diesieben07 stares at ThePsionic

L1356[16:42:27] <ThePsionic> you're creeping me out

L1357[16:42:55] <cpw> girafi one thing at a time?

L1358[16:43:11] <cpw> we'll update when some viable 1.8.8 mappings appears

L1359[16:44:18] <Girafi> Gotcha ^^ A lot of mappings have just changed in the period where 1.8 have been out tho.

L1360[16:45:00] <cpw> well aware thanks

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L1362[16:45:03] <cpw> one thing at a time

L1363[16:45:11] <cpw> mappings are small things relatively

L1364[16:45:14] <cpw> but have a big impact

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L1366[16:47:55] <ThePsionic> but yeah diesieben07 if you have any more suggestions ._.

L1367[16:48:04] <Girafi> I totally agree ^^ I just wanted to make sure it haven't been overlooked, so i'm glad it haven't!

L1368[16:48:14] <diesieben07> i already told you. do things on the server.

L1369[16:48:18] <diesieben07> then start using a debugger.

L1370[16:49:44] <cpw> lol girafi

L1371[16:49:51] <Girafi> :p

L1372[16:50:06] <williewillus> "overlooking" mappings doesn't happen lol

L1373[16:53:16] <ThePsionic> Wat

L1374[16:53:25] <ThePsionic> It never even calls the scheduler

L1375[16:53:54] <ThePsionic> wait nvm wasn't running in debug mode l

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L1377[17:02:04] <Poppy> williewillus: I only see one issue with using the event system, it means I'll be doing a instanceOf check every time a block is broken

L1378[17:02:13] <williewillus> yeah?

L1379[17:02:35] <Poppy> isn't that a little resource intensive?

L1380[17:02:45] <diesieben07> nope

L1381[17:02:46] <ThePsionic> diesieben07: Just to make sure, the amount of ticks you give the scheduler is the amount of ticks since when the scheduler is created, not the amount of ticks that the previous scheduler triggered?

L1382[17:02:49] <williewillus> "instanceof is slow" isn't really true anymore

L1383[17:02:53] <diesieben07> instanceof is blazing fast on a modern jvm

L1384[17:02:59] <Poppy> neat

L1385[17:03:12] <diesieben07> depending on the context it may only be 2-3 cpu instructions even ;)

L1386[17:03:26] <diesieben07> ThePsionic, wat.

L1387[17:03:35] <ThePsionic> So like

L1388[17:03:48] <ThePsionic> If I schedule something with 20 ticks and something with 40 ticks

L1389[17:03:52] <williewillus> libzip just crashed my jvm starting infinity. welp.

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L1391[17:04:07] <diesieben07> at the same time

L1392[17:04:07] <ThePsionic> The one with 40 ticks doesn't start once the 20-tick one is done, right?

L1393[17:04:08] <diesieben07> ?

L1394[17:04:23] <diesieben07> the delays are completley independent of each other

L1395[17:04:27] <ThePsionic> Hm

L1396[17:05:20] <ThePsionic> Because the head in addTasks was set to the one with the longest wait

L1397[17:06:06] <diesieben07> it checks every task every tick

L1398[17:06:11] <diesieben07> and decrements their delay

L1399[17:07:06] <Ordinastie> I wonder why the hell I have 2014 Ultimate Dodgeball Championship Finals as youtube recommendation

L1400[17:07:20] <Ordinastie> but I'm not mad because it was interesting to watch :p

L1401[17:07:35] <ThePsionic> Just to make sure I'm not being a complete dumb, diesieben07

L1402[17:07:54] <ThePsionic> Do I need to call the methods in the event handler class anywhere

L1403[17:08:14] <diesieben07> which methods are you talking about?

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L1405[17:09:11] <ThePsionic> diesieben07: http://i.imgur.com/PyBZ8j2.png

L1406[17:09:21] <williewillus> i wish modpacks would ship working key mappings >.>

L1407[17:09:33] <diesieben07> no but you need to regiser the event hanlder of course

L1408[17:09:40] <diesieben07> do you not know how events work?!

L1409[17:10:27] <ThePsionic> I've never worked with them before /)w(\

L1410[17:10:31] <diesieben07> ...

L1411[17:10:39] <diesieben07> about time you read a tutorial then.

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L1413[17:13:47] <ThePsionic> mfw

L1414[17:14:14] <ThePsionic> The one time it should go right the random chance kicks in and does the one thing tit shouldn't do in this case

L1415[17:14:22] <ThePsionic> it* not tit

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L1417[17:16:43] <robotbrain> anyonw know what events are available on the client side?

L1418[17:17:20] <williewillus> the ones that make sense to be there :p

L1419[17:17:28] <williewillus> it's also generally documented on the event class

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L1421[17:18:01] <robotbrain> well I really just want to know if LivingDeathEvent is available on the client

L1422[17:18:40] <diesieben07> probably not

L1423[17:18:48] <robotbrain> dang

L1424[17:18:57] <GeoDoX|Work> annnnddd back to Fallout 4

L1425[17:18:58] <robotbrain> I want to trigger something when a player dies basically

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L1427[17:19:07] <williewillus> why can't it be server?

L1428[17:19:24] <robotbrain> well I want to trigger some stuff on the client (gui stuff)

L1429[17:19:37] <GeoDoX> you can still do thayt

L1430[17:20:03] <Zaggy1024> looks as though LivingDeathEvent triggers on the client

L1431[17:20:06] <Zaggy1024> unless the code is silly

L1432[17:20:10] <robotbrain> cool

L1433[17:20:11] <Zaggy1024> use find references dude

L1434[17:20:57] <Zaggy1024> actually, looks like the code *is* silly

L1435[17:21:10] <robotbrain> I am using it

L1436[17:21:16] <robotbrain> and not really seeing muuch

L1437[17:21:28] <robotbrain> looks like it will trigger on client though

L1438[17:21:44] <Zaggy1024> however LivingAttackEvent doesn't look like it's server only

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L1440[17:22:14] <williewillus> the damagesource you get on clientside is dummy

L1441[17:22:16] <Zaggy1024> of course there's no guarantee that attackEntityFrom won't be called only on the server

L1442[17:22:32] <robotbrain> I dont need the damage source for this

L1443[17:22:57] <Zaggy1024> I'm confused, how can it be a dummy?

L1444[17:23:13] <Zaggy1024> isn't attackEntityFrom called directly from things that damage and entity?

L1445[17:23:29] <Zaggy1024> and the attack event is called directly with the source

L1446[17:23:35] <ThePsionic> diesieben07: IT'S ALIIIIVE

L1447[17:24:02] <ThePsionic> tfw you accidentally subscribe to the Forge event bus instead of the FML bus

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L1449[17:24:10] <williewillus> Zaggy1024: client has no notion of damage sources, the server just tells it "it died on the server. call onDeath with a generic damagesource"

L1450[17:24:47] <Zaggy1024> I was talking about LivingAttackEvent, not LivingDeathEvent

L1451[17:25:01] <robotbrain> I was looking for LivingDeathEvent

L1452[17:25:05] <williewillus> oh lol

L1453[17:25:22] <Zaggy1024> but I didn't realize the server sent a packet telling the client to fire LivingDeathEvent

L1454[17:25:24] <robotbrain> :P

L1455[17:25:53] <ThePsionic> Anyway I should now really go to bed

L1456[17:25:58] <ThePsionic> I'll refine this later

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L1462[17:39:15] <Zaggy1024> hm

L1463[17:39:24] <Zaggy1024> is there an GL function to change the alpha clip threshold?

L1464[17:39:42] <gigaherz> yes

L1465[17:39:55] <Zaggy1024> (I'm trying to make the edges of a partially transparent texture not be so sharp)

L1466[17:40:01] <Zaggy1024> what is it? :P

L1467[17:40:08] <gigaherz> glAlphaFunc(mode, reference value)

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L1469[17:40:32] <gigaherz> The possible constants specifying the test function are NEVER, ALWAYS, LESS, LEQUAL, EQUAL, GEQUAL, GREATER, or NOTEQUAL,

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L1472[17:45:22] <killjoy> LEQUAL? <=?

L1473[17:45:23] <Zaggy1024> Minecraft's default clip threshold is 0.1?

L1474[17:45:25] <Zaggy1024> gosh

L1475[17:45:42] <gigaherz> yep killjoy, Less-or-EQUAL

L1476[17:45:44] <Zaggy1024> no wonder the model looked crap

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L1478[18:04:01] <illyohs> heh lequal

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L1481[18:08:25] <GeoDoX> Probably an obvious question that I just can't answer because I haven't slept in 36 hours, but why exactly would mipmaps be required, like an example of where they're used in MC (or modded)

L1482[18:08:49] <Zaggy1024> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30868783/ShareX/2015/11/2015-11-22_18-18-11.mp4

L1483[18:08:52] <Zaggy1024> whatcha think?

L1484[18:09:01] <fry> GeoDoX: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mipmap

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L1486[18:09:22] <GeoDoX> I know what they are, I just don't see why they would be needed

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L1488[18:09:32] <Zaggy1024> I think it makes leaves look ugly :P

L1489[18:09:44] <GeoDoX> Zaggy1024, won't play for me

L1490[18:09:50] <GeoDoX> (in browser)

L1491[18:09:51] <Zaggy1024> how much of an impact does it actually have on performance?

L1492[18:09:59] <fry> GeoDoX: https://libcinder.org/docs/guides/cinder-images/images/images_mipmapCompare.png

L1493[18:10:01] <Zaggy1024> your browser must be crap then :P

L1494[18:10:26] <GeoDoX> Chrome is not crap :P

L1495[18:10:28] <Zaggy1024> works in Firefox and Chrome for me

L1496[18:10:33] <fry> mp4 is crap :P

L1497[18:10:38] <Zaggy1024> true

L1498[18:10:52] <Zaggy1024> wow, I'm getting a ton of visual artifacts on my desktop D:

L1499[18:10:56] <Zaggy1024> I think I better reboot

L1500[18:11:17] <GeoDoX> fry, so if blocks are further away it uses a smaller texture to increase performance?

L1501[18:11:28] <fry> no, to improve the visuals

L1502[18:11:51] <Zaggy1024> heh

L1503[18:11:53] <fry> here's another example: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Mipmapping_example.png

L1504[18:12:04] <Zaggy1024> IMO it makes them look pretty ugly in Minecraft

L1505[18:12:25] <GeoDoX> Not entirely wrapping my head around how lower resolution improves visuals...

L1506[18:12:58] <fry> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir��_pattern

L1507[18:13:00] <Zaggy1024> it makes the textures' size match the visual size of the texture on the screen

L1508[18:13:02] <Zaggy1024> I guess

L1509[18:13:13] <Zaggy1024> thereby making filtering less necessary

L1510[18:13:16] <fry> not really

L1511[18:13:29] <Zaggy1024> well, effectively, in some situation, I mean

L1512[18:13:38] <Zaggy1024> it doesn't actually *do* that, I know

L1513[18:13:42] <GeoDoX> That looks more like anti-aliasing to me, but idk. Not really into graphics too much so I'm probably just being dumb :P

L1514[18:13:56] <Zaggy1024> it's not, it's blurrier than antialiasing :P

L1515[18:14:15] <fry> more real-world picture: http://3dgep.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mipmapping-egz.png

L1516[18:14:25] <Zaggy1024> if it was antialiasing you would be able to make out the pattern a little more in the distance

L1517[18:14:32] <GeoDoX> http://http.developer.nvidia.com/GPUGems/elementLinks/fig25-01a.jpg

L1518[18:14:43] <Zaggy1024> eugh, that line on the ground is so visible

L1519[18:15:15] <Zaggy1024> GeoDoX, that looks like antialiasing, the other does not

L1520[18:15:22] <Zaggy1024> in the distance, you can still see a pattern

L1521[18:15:27] <Zaggy1024> with mipmapping it becomes a flat color

L1522[18:15:34] <fry> it's still much better than a horrible grain you get

L1523[18:15:44] <GeoDoX> Alright :P Just curious

L1524[18:16:00] <Zaggy1024> I actually prefer no antialiasing or visible mipmapping because then I can make things out more easily

L1525[18:16:15] <tterrag|away> AA is nice

L1526[18:16:18] <Zaggy1024> but I guess I'm weird because I never really had a graphics card that could handle antialiasing int he games I play

L1527[18:16:23] <tterrag|away> mipmapping I've found generally makes things look worse

L1528[18:16:27] <Zaggy1024> yeah

L1529[18:16:50] <Zaggy1024> mipmapping makes distant objects look textureless

L1530[18:17:12] <Zaggy1024> the screenshot fry linked looks paintified in the distance

L1531[18:17:20] <tterrag|away> it downscales the textures

L1532[18:17:20] <fry> if you use it incorrectly - yes

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L1534[18:18:11] <tterrag|away> fry, re: that image, I think both look pretty bad

L1535[18:18:13] <gigaherz> mipmaps is generally computed by using a box filter to average the higher-res image

L1536[18:18:16] <tterrag|away> right side is better obviously

L1537[18:18:18] <gigaherz> are*

L1538[18:18:22] <tterrag|away> but still too blurry

L1539[18:18:33] <gigaherz> inclined surfaces look bad when filtered

L1540[18:18:40] <gigaherz> that's the purpose of anisotropic filtering

L1541[18:19:05] <gigaherz> it's something mipmapping alone can't fix

L1542[18:19:29] <gigaherz> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Anisotropic_filtering_en.png

L1543[18:20:15] <fry> well, here the worst part is non-tiling texture :P

L1544[18:21:28] <ZaggyMobile> Hah

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L1547[18:21:43] <gigaherz> problem is anisotropic filtering gets quite expensive ;P

L1548[18:22:23] <fry> trilinear filtering solves the abrupt lines between mipmaps, it seems

L1549[18:22:36] <gigaherz> yes

L1550[18:22:49] <gigaherz> opengl calls trilinear

L1551[18:22:58] <gigaherz> GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR

L1552[18:23:17] <gigaherz> because it's linear in texture space (bilinear for a 2D texture)

L1553[18:23:23] <gigaherz> and also linearly-interpolated between mipmaps

L1554[18:23:31] <gigaherz> not to be confused with a different kind of trilinear

L1555[18:23:38] <gigaherz> which is GL_LINEAR applied to a 3D texture

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L1557[18:24:03] <fry> you hardly can confuse 2d and 3d textures :P

L1558[18:24:15] <gigaherz> yeah ;P

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L1560[18:24:26] <gigaherz> so the common trilinear means "bilinear with linearly interpolated mipmaps"

L1561[18:24:50] <gigaherz> another fun fact: bilinear uses 3 lerps

L1562[18:25:19] <fry> even funnier fact: lerp os short for Linear intERPolation :P

L1563[18:25:26] <gigaherz> while trilinear needs 7

L1564[18:25:47] <gigaherz> yep

L1565[18:25:56] <gigaherz> but that's because "lint" sounded bad ;P

L1566[18:26:13] <Zaggy1024> lerp sounds fun

L1567[18:26:21] <Zaggy1024> that's why I like using it :)

L1568[18:26:28] <fry> slerp sounds satisfying :P

L1569[18:27:04] <Zaggy1024> huh, never heard of that one

L1570[18:27:14] <Zaggy1024> guess that's because I've never really used quats

L1571[18:27:31] <gigaherz> http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2004/06/03/ati/pic06.jpg

L1572[18:27:34] <gigaherz> a shame it's so low-res

L1573[18:27:39] <gigaherz> it's a nice comparison

L1574[18:28:03] <fry> (also, in general, n-dimentional multilinear interpolation can be decomposed to 2 n-1-dimentional ones + 1 linear, or 2^n - 1 linear ones in total :P)

L1575[18:28:15] <ZaggyMobile> Jpegs are turds

L1576[18:29:27] <gigaherz> funny how many minecraft-like images show up when you search "bilinear mipmaps" in google images

L1577[18:29:44] <gigaherz> https://camo.githubusercontent.com/ad8357154a82f25383b189240050324b9389a5c0/68747470733a2f2f662e636c6f75642e6769746875622e636f6d2f6173736574732f353839373935362f313730313034382f36646130376439322d363033642d313165332d396637632d3863303462323033303864632e706e67

L1578[18:29:49] <gigaherz> http://i.stack.imgur.com/XRmml.png

L1579[18:30:04] <fry> MC is a special case, cause it intentionally uses nearest interpolation for textures

L1580[18:30:10] <gigaherz> http://uploads.gamedev.net/monthly_12_2013/post-200723-0-32206500-1388104717.png

L1581[18:30:26] <Zaggy1024> holy crap that's bad texture mapping

L1582[18:31:17] <gigaherz> yeah my "voxel" proof of concept demo (proving to myself that I could do it if I wanted, that is ;P)

L1583[18:31:26] <gigaherz> looked way better than those ;P

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L1588[19:14:41] <robotbrain> anyone know how to get the sender from a chat message on the client

L1589[19:14:42] <robotbrain> ?

L1590[19:16:44] <gigaherz> not sure if that's even possible

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L1593[19:16:48] <gigaherz> I have never used chat

L1594[19:17:10] <gigaherz> but after quick glance I can't see anything related to "sender" on chat classes

L1595[19:19:22] <robotbrain> yeah

L1596[19:25:41] <robotbrain> night

L1597[19:37:21] <tterrag|away> robotbrain: it's probably not sent. either do what you want on the server or do something hacky like parse the nick

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L1600[19:42:46] <killjoy> it isn't sent

L1601[19:42:50] <killjoy> I've tried to get it

L1602[19:43:00] <killjoy> but if you're creative, you can imply it from the message

L1603[19:43:17] <killjoy> it should be the first parameter of the translatable

L1604[19:43:26] <killjoy> but it isn't always the same

L1605[19:44:30] <killjoy> ^<([a-fA-F0-9_]{3,16})>

L1606[19:44:38] <killjoy> with just text, use that regex, group(1)

L1607[19:44:59] <killjoy> modifying the chat server-side might break it

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L1611[19:47:02] <SatanicSanta> So here's a weird thing. Using player.setCurrentItemOrArmor seems to only work when setting it to null. I've tried setting it to an ItemStack without setting to null first, and I've tried setting it to null and then an ItemStack

L1612[19:47:38] <SatanicSanta> When I set it to null, the result is as expected. However, if I set it to null and then an itemstack, or just an itemstack, seemingly nothing happens.

L1613[19:49:59] <SatanicSanta> Looking at the code for setCurrentItemOrArmor, I can't see why or how this is happening

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L1615[19:53:01] <SatanicSanta> And just for some more info, MC 1.7.10 MCF 10.13.4.1448

L1616[19:55:50] <Poppy> !!gm func_149726_b

L1617[19:55:50] <MCPBot_Reborn> No results found.

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L1620[20:20:06] <SatanicSanta> Alright, I've narrowed down my issue a bit. I have an item in a slot that needs to have a certain NBT tag removed on a certain event. I've tried doing this a couple ways: simply removing the nbt and hoping it works, and actually replacing the old item with the new one that does not have the nbt. Neither of these things seem to do the trick.

L1621[20:20:52] <SatanicSanta> The NBT successfully gets removed, but it appears in-game that it is not being removed. I'm assuming there is some sort of update missing, but I can't figure out what it actually is.

L1622[20:21:58] <williewillus> is this in hte player inv?

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L1624[20:22:17] <SatanicSanta> yes, it's an armor item.

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L1626[20:23:34] <SatanicSanta> Here's the event code in case anyone is interested: https://github.com/Esteemed-Innovation/Flaxbeards-Steam-Power/blob/divine-exo-upgrades/src/main/java/flaxbeard/steamcraft/handler/SteamcraftEventHandler.java#L1464

L1627[20:24:15] <williewillus> i remember having to manually update that on the client

L1628[20:24:20] <williewillus> but I don't remember where the method is

L1629[20:24:25] <williewillus> detectAndSendChanges? something like that

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L1631[20:26:30] <SatanicSanta> hm, ill try that real quick

L1632[20:27:37] <williewillus> ah its in container, which means only in a gui. Not sure if that's where you are rn

L1633[20:28:04] <SatanicSanta> nope

L1634[20:29:02] <SatanicSanta> williewillus: I could explain what I'm trying to do a little bit more in-depth if you'd like?

L1635[20:29:42] <williewillus> yeah just a rndown what that method is trying to do would be fine

L1636[20:30:22] <SatanicSanta> williewillus: Are you familiar with Flaxbeard's Steam Power?

L1637[20:30:38] <williewillus> mildly :p

L1638[20:31:42] <SatanicSanta> (Firstly, doing detectAndSendChanges had no change in result)

L1639[20:32:36] <williewillus> oh this probably isn't related to your issue but you compare strings with == on line 1481

L1640[20:32:46] <SatanicSanta> oh, yes I do

L1641[20:34:00] <SatanicSanta> williewillus: So basically, when the item is installed in an armor piece, it will prevent the player from taking damage if they are below half health, or if the attack deals over half the player's pre-attack health

L1642[20:34:14] <SatanicSanta> when it does this, it deletes itself from the armor, dropping some of the components that it is made of

L1643[20:34:26] <SatanicSanta> the item is stored in the armor through NBT data

L1644[20:34:50] <gigaherz> heh MPC-HC is at version 1.7.10 XD

L1645[20:35:00] <SatanicSanta> williewillus: And that string thing is probably a result of me using a shit ton of ruby

L1646[20:35:34] <williewillus> gigaherz: plugin devs will now proceed to sit there and use that version forever, claiming "all the users are staying here!!"

L1647[20:35:58] <gigaherz> XD

L1648[20:36:16] <gigaherz> I thought their reason was "all the other mods are also staying here!"

L1649[20:36:23] <williewillus> that too

L1650[20:36:31] <williewillus> so is the prob that the nbt tag isn't being removed?

L1651[20:36:38] <SatanicSanta> no

L1652[20:36:55] <SatanicSanta> the NBT tag is gone after UtilPlates.removePlate gets called

L1653[20:37:09] <SatanicSanta> however the armor still has the plate

L1654[20:37:21] <williewillus> like visually?

L1655[20:37:43] <SatanicSanta> visually, and the code that requires the armor to have the plate can still be executed

L1656[20:37:57] <SatanicSanta> (yes, the code is being executed server-side, i've already tested that)

L1657[20:38:26] <SatanicSanta> My thinking is that the armor item needs to undergo some sort of update in order for it to realize that the plate is in fact gone

L1658[20:39:03] <SatanicSanta> (Here is UtilPlates.removePlate https://github.com/Esteemed-Innovation/Flaxbeards-Steam-Power/blob/divine-exo-upgrades/src/main/java/flaxbeard/steamcraft/api/exosuit/UtilPlates.java#L57 )

L1659[20:39:49] <gigaherz> so I'm checking out the 1.8.8 build on http://files.minecraftforge.net/

L1660[20:40:04] <gigaherz> (the actual client, not the MDK)

L1661[20:40:10] <williewillus> hm yeah idk at a glance whats happening, the appropriate stack is being passed around and its not being copied or anything

L1662[20:40:17] <williewillus> gigaherz: anything exploding yet? lol

L1663[20:40:50] <gigaherz> nope

L1664[20:40:55] <gigaherz> the progressbar at the loading works nicely

L1665[20:40:58] <gigaherz> main menu works

L1666[20:41:05] <gigaherz> creating a new singleplayer save works

L1667[20:41:15] <gigaherz> oops

L1668[20:41:18] <gigaherz> headless trees ;P

L1669[20:41:58] <gigaherz> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/743491/2015-11-23_03.51.28.png

L1670[20:42:14] <williewillus> curious whys it always the tree leaves that go whenever an update happens lol

L1671[20:42:19] <williewillus> remember it happening for 1.8.0

L1672[20:44:07] <gigaherz> nether portal worked fine

L1673[20:44:16] <williewillus> bow model is darkened for some reason

L1674[20:45:06] <gigaherz> hmmm I don't recall arrows dropping so fast, maybe I have been playing too much ARK and lost the aim on mc

L1675[20:45:37] <gigaherz> hmm oh I wasp laying on standard FOV, not 90

L1676[20:46:11] <gigaherz> yeah I can still aim -- at the right fov ;P

L1677[20:46:22] <williewillus> heh also with this update both of the patches that I had in forge are gone lol

L1678[20:46:26] <williewillus> finally fixed upstream

L1679[20:48:22] <gigaherz> so yeah the only issue I have so far are 1x1 spruce trees

L1680[20:53:06] <williewillus> dragon works lol

L1681[20:54:55] <williewillus> hm found a bug but it might be vanilla

L1682[20:55:30] <williewillus> when you make the dragon egg teleport the trail of ender particles traces the wrong vec (rotated 90 from egg's actual path)

L1683[20:57:10] <Poppy> so, how do I decompile a mod into something readable

L1684[20:57:45] <gigaherz> you take a java decompiler, and run it on the jar ;P

L1685[20:58:39] <Poppy> I've dropped it into my dev as a lib, idea decompiles it fine, but some of the func names are nonsense

L1686[20:58:50] <gigaherz> yes that will happen

L1687[20:59:10] <gigaherz> you'd need to replicate the same process mcp/forge uses to decide on pretty names

L1688[21:00:01] <williewillus> use BCV (and BON2 if needed)

L1689[21:00:10] <williewillus> the former lets you choose decompilers and the second deobfuscates

L1690[21:00:27] <Poppy> hm, I'll try bon2

L1691[21:00:45] <williewillus> in terms of procyon is okay, but makes dumb mistakes sometimes. you could use forge's fernflower

L1692[21:00:51] <williewillus> *in terms of decompilers

L1693[21:01:18] <williewillus> are you porting something? heh

L1694[21:06:59] <williewillus> anyways overall seems stable enough that if nothing's going to bomb dramatically I might move my botania forkport to it soon

L1695[21:07:08] <williewillus> it's nowhere near compiling anyway

L1696[21:07:42] <Poppy> nah, just looking at how someone did something

L1697[21:08:13] <Poppy> yeah, bon2 worked a treat, thank you

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L1700[21:12:34] <gigaherz> williewillus: sadly the mdk zip won't work ;P

L1701[21:12:43] <williewillus> aw

L1702[21:12:49] <gigaherz> * What went wrong:

L1703[21:12:49] <gigaherz> Could not determine the dependencies of task ':decompileMc'.

L1704[21:12:49] <gigaherz> > Task with path 'getFernFlower' not found in root project 'forge188'.

L1705[21:13:13] <gigaherz> that's AFTER I changed the provided build.gradle to use fg2.1-snapshot, and the latest mappings

L1706[21:13:40] <fry> it's being fixed as you speak :P

L1707[21:13:47] <gigaherz> heh

L1708[21:13:53] <williewillus> botania has so many items and blocks I'm not even done replacing changed signatures yet lol. And I have to move things to layerrenderers, and make models for everything lol

L1709[21:14:06] <williewillus> hoping to compile by the time uni semester ends, and done by new years? idk

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L1711[21:15:55] <gigaherz> lol

L1712[21:22:10] <williewillus> oh and figuring out what all the metas are and abstracting to states, that's also fun

L1713[21:22:43] <gigaherz> step 1: PropertyInt(0,15)

L1714[21:23:08] <gigaherz> step 2: getStateFromMeta(meta) { return default.withProperty(META,meta) }

L1715[21:23:13] <fry> noooo

L1716[21:23:21] <fry> do it properly :P

L1717[21:23:24] <gigaherz> XD

L1718[21:23:44] <fry> or, should I say, properTly :P

L1719[21:24:26] <gigaherz> XD

L1720[21:25:00] <williewillus> we don't have to cast getValue anymore right?

L1721[21:25:03] <williewillus> that's the main annoyance :p

L1722[21:25:37] <fry> yup, that should work

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L1724[21:28:11] <gigaherz> so I was eating some fruit

L1725[21:28:11] <gigaherz> https://twitter.com/therealgigaherz/status/668634252657881088

L1726[21:31:04] <gigaherz> ah I see there's a commit for the leaves yay ;P

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L1732[21:52:19] <Lance5057> when calling this render function what goes in for variable "f1"?

L1733[21:52:20] <Lance5057> public void render(Entity entity, float f, float f1, float f2, float f3, float f4, float f5)

L1734[21:53:11] <Lance5057> event.entityPlayer.prevLimbSwingAmount + (event.entityPlayer.limbSwingAmount - event.entityPlayer.prevLimbSwingAmount) * event.partialRenderTick; - I'm using this and it lags behind a bit so the players arms pop out while moving

L1735[21:54:03] <gigaherz> does the method have javadocs?

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L1738[21:57:23] <oitsjustjose> Any thoughts on why world.spawnParticle("portal", (double)event.x, (double)event.y, (double)event.z, 1.0D, 0.0D, 0.0D) wouldn't work in my HarvestDropsEvent enchantment handler?

L1739[21:57:58] <oitsjustjose> playSoundAtEntity seems to be working fine, so I'm not sure why spawnParticle isn't

L1740[22:00:08] <Lance5057> the methods javadocs dont say what goes in it no

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L1762[23:36:54] <Poppy> so, how does vanilla DropBlockAsItem and DropBlockAsItemWithChance work in vanilla? Because I see them calling one another

L1763[23:37:28] <Poppy> and never really dropping anything

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