OCLogs: 2015-11-12.log

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L4[00:10:18] <Zaggy1024> is there a way to get a list of items on a player, including inventory slots that random mods may add?

L5[00:10:40] <Zaggy1024> or will I only be able to check for stacks in the vanilla inventory?

L6[00:16:48] <killjoy> You mean like additional inventories?

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L8[00:18:40] <Zaggy1024> yes

L9[00:18:55] <killjoy> How does one create additional inventories?

L10[00:19:01] <Zaggy1024> any inventories mods add, which presumably aren't part of player.inventory.mainInventory

L11[00:19:07] <Zaggy1024> umm, probably many ways

L12[00:19:15] <Zaggy1024> the one I can think of is extended entity properties

L13[00:19:37] <Zaggy1024> what I'm trying to do is prevent someone from taking any items into my dimension

L14[00:20:44] <Ordinastie> Zaggy1024, why not ?

L15[00:21:17] <Zaggy1024> because it's supposed to make players start from scratch with technology like pistons and that crap

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L17[00:21:29] <killjoy> afaik (from research) there is no actual registration for inventories

L18[00:21:44] <Zaggy1024> maybe a late game upgrade of some kind could let you bring things over, but for now I just want to entirely stop it happening

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L20[00:22:09] <Ordinastie> hum, what about completely recreating the player object ?

L21[00:22:24] <killjoy> Give them a different uuid?

L22[00:22:34] <killjoy> no, that's too hacky

L23[00:22:51] <shadekiller666> zaggy, don't "inventories" (containers) have a list somewhere of all of the slots contained in them?

L24[00:23:21] <killjoy> He's talking about things like TiC armor tab or TiC satchel

L25[00:23:28] <shadekiller666> mhmm

L26[00:23:45] <shadekiller666> those are extensions of the vanilla player inventory aren't they?

L27[00:24:28] <killjoy> hiik

L28[00:25:21] <Zaggy1024> well as long as those are things that you have to already have in the vnailla inventory there's no problem

L29[00:25:28] <Zaggy1024> I'm more worried about thinks like...baubles is it?

L30[00:25:40] <killjoy> same concept

L31[00:25:42] <Zaggy1024> I dunno, I've seen pictures of the type of mods I'm worried about :P

L32[00:25:51] <Zaggy1024> haven't played them really, though

L33[00:26:08] <shadekiller666> baubles are just a fancy way of getting to more inventory slots

L34[00:26:26] <Zaggy1024> I thought it added some equipment slots as well

L35[00:26:37] <Zaggy1024> ones that are basically the same as armor inventory

L36[00:26:45] <shadekiller666> those are still slots

L37[00:26:51] <Zaggy1024> except presumably storing the data somewhere else

L38[00:26:56] <Zaggy1024> so where would I get those slots?

L39[00:26:59] <shadekiller666> ...

L40[00:27:19] <Zaggy1024> what?

L41[00:27:19] <shadekiller666> armorslots are stored somewhere other than the main player inventory container?

L42[00:27:25] <Zaggy1024> ...

L43[00:27:33] <shadekiller666> you just said that

L44[00:27:33] <alex_6611> they aren't

L45[00:27:40] <shadekiller666> then whats the problem

L46[00:27:44] <Zaggy1024> if a mod directly modified the number of armor slots in the player inventory, it would probably break everything

L47[00:27:56] <alex_6611> modded containers are probably seperate, yea

L48[00:28:08] <Zaggy1024> I'm sure it doesn't do that, so iterating player.inventory.armorInventory would be no good

L49[00:28:12] <Zaggy1024> not for baubles slots

L50[00:28:14] <shadekiller666> but they would extend the player inventory though

L51[00:28:30] <Zaggy1024> so? doesn't mean they're in player.inventory

L52[00:28:58] <killjoy> could you check that the open inventory was an instance of playerinventory?

L53[00:29:02] <Zaggy1024> they'd pretty much have to do ASM or equally massively breaking crap to make that work

L54[00:29:31] <Zaggy1024> the player won't necessarily have an inventory open when entering the dimension

L55[00:29:56] <Zaggy1024> I suppose I could open it...hm

L56[00:29:58] <Zaggy1024> interesting idea

L57[00:30:21] <Zaggy1024> presumably the mods have to override the vanilla inventory container?

L58[00:30:30] <shadekiller666> mhmm

L59[00:30:33] <shadekiller666> thats the idea

L60[00:31:21] <Zaggy1024> I thought you were suggesting that player.inventory would somehow contain those slots

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L62[00:31:43] <shadekiller666> in instance of player.inventory should

L63[00:31:47] <Ordinastie> Zaggy1024, you're going in backwards

L64[00:31:58] <Zaggy1024> hm?

L65[00:32:00] <Ordinastie> what do you need to keep when going into your dim ?

L66[00:32:00] <shadekiller666> an instance*

L67[00:32:18] <Zaggy1024> uh...nothing really, I suppose

L68[00:32:22] <Zaggy1024> shade, I doubt it

L69[00:32:26] <Ordinastie> then, new player it is

L70[00:32:37] <Zaggy1024> hm?

L71[00:32:44] <Zaggy1024> how would I make a new player? >.>

L72[00:32:50] <shadekiller666> when you teleport, minecraft makes a new player

L73[00:32:54] <shadekiller666> then copies everything over

L74[00:33:03] <Ordinastie> look at what it does when you die

L75[00:33:05] <shadekiller666> and then destroys the one in the original location

L76[00:33:19] <Ordinastie> or rather, respawn

L77[00:33:39] <Zaggy1024> I don't think it duplicates the player when teleportin

L78[00:33:57] <shadekiller666> it does

L79[00:34:06] <shadekiller666> at least when going through portals

L80[00:34:37] <Ordinastie> on the other hand, what's supposed to happen when you TP to your dim ? you lose everything you have ? that kinda suck

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L82[00:35:10] <Zaggy1024> nah, ordin, it's supposed to prevent you teleporting if you go in with items in your inventory

L83[00:35:22] <Ordinastie> oh

L84[00:35:25] <Zaggy1024> shade, the code in ServerConfigurationManager doesn't seem to do anything of the sort

L85[00:35:36] <Ordinastie> that's not how I would do it though

L86[00:35:57] <Zaggy1024> how would you prevent losing everything though?

L87[00:36:07] <Ordinastie> store the old player in some way

L88[00:36:22] <Ordinastie> switch between your two player object when switching dim

L89[00:36:28] <Ordinastie> may not be that easy to do

L90[00:36:39] <Zaggy1024> yeah... I was thinking about that

L91[00:36:44] <Zaggy1024> it does sound like a pain

L92[00:36:58] <Ordinastie> but you already have the code in vanilla to do that

L93[00:37:03] <Zaggy1024> yeah

L94[00:37:16] <Ordinastie> I think it's the cleanest way

L95[00:37:23] <Zaggy1024> sure seems that way

L96[00:37:30] <Zaggy1024> this'll be fun to figure out

L97[00:37:41] <Zaggy1024> I might have to make some kind of magical stasis pod :P

L98[00:38:11] <Ordinastie> nah, make it automatic on changing dim

L99[00:38:34] <Zaggy1024> problem is I also want to allow items to return from the dimension :P

L100[00:38:40] <Zaggy1024> so...bit of a dilemma

L101[00:38:59] <Ordinastie> not really

L102[00:39:12] <Ordinastie> you will manually control the player switching

L103[00:39:23] <Ordinastie> so nothing prevents you to handle some item juggling

L104[00:39:40] <Zaggy1024> hm

L105[00:39:58] <Zaggy1024> item juggling when I don't actually know what are all the slots in the player's inventory though?

L106[00:40:06] <Zaggy1024> and what if they return with a full inventory?

L107[00:40:17] <Ordinastie> it's less critical here if you have limitations

L108[00:40:33] <Ordinastie> if inventory is full, spill items everywhere

L109[00:40:53] <Zaggy1024> but then I have the same problem as before, how do I know where all the player's items are stored?

L110[00:41:13] <Ordinastie> it's ok to say you will preserve items in vanilla inventory only

L111[00:41:44] <Zaggy1024> another idea I had was to make some kind of block at the portal to transfer items between the dimensions

L112[00:41:53] <Ordinastie> that can work too

L113[00:42:01] <Zaggy1024> of course Overworld -> Genesis wouldn't allow it without some activator

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L115[00:42:16] <Ordinastie> I thing that's the better way too

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L117[00:42:27] <Ordinastie> allows the player to control what items to keep

L118[00:46:26] <Zaggy1024> anyway, thanks for the help

L119[00:46:34] <Zaggy1024> helped me figure out how to do this best

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L121[00:47:54] <Zaggy1024> one thing, though...I guess I need to make some kind of way to recover everything if the portal is removed/moved

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L123[00:48:41] <Ordinastie> don't link the process to the portal

L124[00:48:45] <Ordinastie> link it to the dimension

L125[00:48:50] <Zaggy1024> so I think the thing that stores the player when they go through the portal should be a physical block that can be right clicked to recover the player's data

L126[00:49:01] <Zaggy1024> hm

L127[00:49:10] <Zaggy1024> yeah, I suppose..

L128[00:49:26] <Zaggy1024> yeah, I guess there's no problem with that

L129[00:49:38] * Zaggy1024 is trying to pick apart all the possible scenarios in his head :P

L130[00:50:31] <shadekiller666> what happens if some other player comes along and breaks that block?

L131[00:50:50] <Zaggy1024> well, *if* that was still my plan, I would have made that block indestructible

L132[00:51:04] <Zaggy1024> at least until it's emptied

L133[00:51:54] <Ordinastie> there is no point in having a block for that

L134[00:52:13] <Ordinastie> because what is done when right clicking the block can be done automatically when entering the dimension

L135[00:53:34] <Zaggy1024> yeah

L136[00:53:39] <Zaggy1024> definitely

L137[00:55:23] <Ordinastie> the challenge will only be : how to make sure you keep ALL the player data when switching

L138[00:55:32] <Ordinastie> how to store it, and how to load it

L139[00:55:50] <Ordinastie> best bet is probably an alternate player.dat

L140[00:56:19] <Ordinastie> and rely on what vanilla do to save it

L141[01:03:19] <Cazzar> Well, I've played a lot of fallout 4 already...

L142[01:03:33] <Cazzar> 25 hours in the past 3 days

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L149[01:09:46] <Ordinastie> god, I hate when all the solutions to your one problem are all the same, but it doesn't work for you :x

L150[01:13:46] <Ordinastie> I just want to get rid of that annoying full screen message "SomeSite.com is now in full screen mode, press Esc to quit" :x

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L154[01:29:37] <kashike> Ordinastie: chrome?

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L157[01:30:50] <Ordinastie> Firefox

L158[01:31:15] <Ordinastie> the solution is supposed to be the config full-screen-api.approval-required

L159[01:31:21] <Ordinastie> but it's not even there for me

L160[01:31:28] <Ordinastie> and adding it doesn't solve it

L161[01:32:41] <kashike> Ordinastie: full-screen-api.warning.timeout

L162[01:32:45] <kashike> try setting to 0

L163[01:33:06] <Ordinastie> I don't have that option either

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L165[01:33:43] <kashike> are you on an old version? it's there for me

L166[01:35:29] <Ordinastie> 42

L167[01:35:40] <kashike> ah, it's 43+

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L172[01:39:40] <Ordinastie> I installed NIghtly, not it work

L173[01:39:41] <Ordinastie> s

L174[01:41:15] <Ordinastie> *now it works ><

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L183[02:09:31] <ThePsionic> honl

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L188[02:13:33] <ThePsionic> How do I set the breaking particles of a block with a custom JSON model?

L189[02:14:09] <ThePsionic> Like, the block looks mostly like wood but I guess it doesn't actually have a texture so the breaking particles are black/purple

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L191[02:20:10] <ThePsionic> Never mind, found it

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L202[02:53:34] <ThePsionic> https://travis-ci.org/ThePsionic/Ingens/builds/90688994 How would I fix this error, I tried adding -source 8 to ./gradlew build but that didn't work

L203[02:54:56] <kashike> ThePsionic: https://github.com/ThePsionic/Ingens/blob/master/build.gradle

L204[02:54:59] <kashike> sourceCompatibility = 1.8

L205[02:55:01] <kashike> targetCompatibility = 1.8

L206[02:55:17] <ThePsionic> ah gotcha

L207[02:55:42] <ThePsionic> Wait, kashike, where does that go?

L208[02:55:50] <kashike> inside build.gradle

L209[02:55:58] <kashike> under archivesBaseName, for example

L210[02:56:16] <ThePsionic> Oh ok, not any specific block

L211[02:56:34] <kashike> correct

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L213[02:59:59] <ThePsionic> hurrah

L214[03:00:03] <ThePsionic> kashike for MVP

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L226[03:46:38] <Wuppy> o/

L227[03:49:07] <AEnterprise> o/

L228[03:51:23] <Wuppy> how're you :D

L229[03:51:55] <AEnterprise> pretty good, mady my own recipeHandler for custom crafting in the assembler i'm making

L230[03:52:05] <AEnterprise> you?

L231[03:52:25] <Wuppy> great, carnaval started yesterday :D

L232[03:52:36] <Wuppy> which means it's allowed to listen to really bad dutch carnaval music again :P

L233[03:52:37] <AEnterprise> nice, have fun with that :)

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L235[03:55:34] <AEnterprise> though a friend is now asking to make a chunkloading mod for 1.8 but i don't realy know how to start on that

L236[03:55:55] <Wuppy> oh I also managed to get a sneekpeak at a new club in our town and it's looking really awesome :D

L237[03:57:03] <AEnterprise> sneakpeaks are always fun

L238[03:57:13] <Wuppy> a chunkloading mod?

L239[03:57:45] <AEnterprise> yes

L240[03:58:45] <AEnterprise> would need a 1.8 to poke around in then to get the basics so that part is doable if i find a good OS 1.8 mod

L241[03:59:25] <AEnterprise> the main issue is i have no idea how chunkloading in 1.8 works, didn't use it in 1.7 and i heard it has changed in 1.8

L242[04:00:37] <ThePsionic> I have no idea whether the way I'm using to check whether things can be crafted in my thing is nice/proper or not but it works so idc

L243[04:00:54] <Wuppy> ThePsionic, what do you think of this music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBzClrGGV-k

L244[04:01:30] <ThePsionic> oh god

L245[04:01:30] <AEnterprise> so anyone here knows how chunkloading works in 1.8 or what classes i should take a look at?

L246[04:01:35] <ThePsionic> oh no

L247[04:01:40] <ThePsionic> Wuppy why would you do this to me

L248[04:01:50] <Wuppy> this was the music playing yesterday :D

L249[04:02:01] <AEnterprise> not that song again

L250[04:02:19] <Wuppy> AEnterprise, again?

L251[04:02:23] <AEnterprise> heard that one to much in the past :P

L252[04:02:39] <Wuppy> I thought it was new-ish

L253[04:02:47] <AEnterprise> the vid is from 2012

L254[04:04:02] <Wuppy> I hadn't heard it before last carnaval I think

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L256[04:10:32] <AEnterprise> so anyone here has any pointers on how to do chunkloading in 1.8?

L257[04:12:26] <DrDisconsented> ForgeChunkManager

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L260[04:12:33] <DrDisconsented> Thats about all I know

L261[04:12:45] <AEnterprise> alright, it's a start, thanks

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L271[04:56:50] <mort_> how can you detect if a block has an inventory, and get access to that inventory?

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L273[05:00:02] <ThePsionic> mort_: TileEntity? Look at chest?

L274[05:00:13] <ThePsionic> Or furnace?

L275[05:01:13] <ThePsionic> Or if it's a player-bound inventory look at ender chest

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L277[05:02:47] <mort_> I'm not trying to make a block with an inventory though, I'm trying to detect if some other random block in the world has one

L278[05:03:06] <AEnterprise> ah then you wana check for the IInventory interface

L279[05:03:07] <ThePsionic> That sounds painful

L280[05:03:29] <ThePsionic> But yeah

L281[05:03:39] <Lumien> How does that sound painful? o_O

L282[05:04:31] <AEnterprise> if the TE doesn't implement that interface there eighter is no inventory or the maker doesn't want you accessing it

L283[05:05:06] <ThePsionic> Lumien: I was literally imagining BlockPos(Math.random(), Math.random(), Math.random())

L284[05:05:23] <ThePsionic> Not exactly like that but you know what I mean

L285[05:05:40] <mort_> right, replace random with arbitrary.

L286[05:06:05] <ThePsionic> Whenever I see random I start envisioning actual randomness built in

L287[05:06:15] <ThePsionic> I have a very uninteresting life, if you were wondering

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L297[06:11:41] <AEnterprise> euh i setup a decompworkspace for mc 1.8 and i'm making an TileEnity but the MC class no longer has the 'update()' method?

L298[06:12:15] <AEnterprise> can't seem to find a replacement eighter, am i missing something?

L299[06:13:02] <tterrag> AEnterprise: IUpdatePlayerListBox

L300[06:13:41] <AEnterprise> that's an odd name for it

L301[06:14:08] <AEnterprise> not sure why it's moved to an interface eighter, but i'll go with it i guess

L302[06:17:49] <tterrag> odd name is an understatement

L303[06:17:56] <AEnterprise> ^^

L304[06:17:59] <tterrag> many complained when it was initially set to that name, and it was never changed

L305[06:18:24] <tterrag> I said something just today so it could be changed before 1.8.8, got a "meh it's fine" response

L306[06:18:34] <tterrag> so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L307[06:18:35] <AEnterprise> it doesn't even have anything to do with players, lists, or boxes, IUpdatable would be much better

L308[06:18:59] <tterrag> I said the same thing

L309[06:19:06] <tterrag> interfaces should not be named after their usage

L310[06:19:10] <tterrag> they are meant to be as general as possible

L311[06:20:06] <AEnterprise> not just that, the current name is confusing, i thought it might be an interface but i would have never guessed it would be that one

L312[06:20:42] <tterrag> preaching to the choir bud

L313[06:21:19] <AEnterprise> anyways, let's see about this json stuff to apply textures to the block

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L315[06:37:22] <AEnterprise> euh probably a stupid question but my block is seethrough so no textures yet the break particles are from the texture, any idea of what i'm doing wrong?

L316[06:37:47] <tterrag> post json

L317[06:38:05] <AEnterprise> the blockstate or the model one?

L318[06:38:07] <tterrag> also probably check the log for missing model errors

L319[06:38:49] <AEnterprise> already did, the one missing is for the inventory, the normal one is there

L320[06:40:09] <AEnterprise> model json: https://gist.github.com/AEnterprise/29ba4bf00fd8f1c3ce0e

L321[06:42:17] <fry> IUpdatePlayerListBox is changed to ITickable in 1.8.8

L322[06:42:58] <AEnterprise> ah, that's alot better fry :)

L323[06:43:04] <fry> are you extending BlockContainer?

L324[06:43:09] <AEnterprise> yes

L325[06:43:28] <fry> it's a bit useless now, and it disables rendering too

L326[06:43:48] <fry> either don't extend it, or override getRenderType and return 3

L327[06:44:20] <AEnterprise> not sure why blockcontainer is doing that then but i'll override, thanks

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L330[06:45:26] <tterrag> fry: according to bspkr.s it wasn't

L331[06:45:30] <tterrag> but I guess I believe you :P

L332[06:45:43] <tterrag> AEnterprise: seirously stop extending BlockContainer

L333[06:45:47] <tterrag> it's a nuisance and should die

L334[06:46:17] <AEnterprise> alright, i'm new to 1.8, in 1.7 it works fine, didn't know it was such a trouble in 1.8

L335[06:46:31] <fry> well, I am looking at it right now, it's ITickable at least in mappings that forge uses to update :P

L336[06:46:52] <tterrag> it's just as pointless in 1.7

L337[06:47:25] <fry> it wasn't pointless in the olden days, but now you only have to do Block.hasTileEntity, or what was it called :P

L338[06:47:45] <AEnterprise> it does the adding and removing of the TE for you so it is usefull in that way

L339[06:48:37] <AEnterprise> it's Block.isBlockContainer btw

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L341[06:50:36] <AEnterprise> there we go now i have a texture, thanks guys

L342[06:53:45] <AEnterprise> next thing: the log no longer complains about inventory state not bein found or any missing textures, yet the block in my hand/inventory has no textures

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L344[06:55:26] <AEnterprise> is that part of the same forge bug as the block being huge or am i derping something else up again? (sorry for all the questions)

L345[06:58:50] <fry> it's not a bug

L346[06:59:26] <fry> do you register the inventory resource location with the ModelLoader?

L347[06:59:51] <AEnterprise> inventory resource location?

L348[06:59:55] * AEnterprise feels like a noob

L349[07:00:29] <fry> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(item_of_your_block, metadata, new ModelResourceLocation(registryName, "inventory"))

L350[07:00:36] <fry> do that in preInit

L351[07:01:27] <AEnterprise> thanks alot, didn't find that, guess i have quite some things to learn for 1.8 modding

L352[07:02:17] <fry> also, try this for the blockstate json: https://gist.github.com/RainWarrior/36e5aaa071ce90d16848

L353[07:02:37] <fry> that way you only need 1 json instead of 3

L354[07:03:05] <AEnterprise> thanks :D

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L356[07:03:08] <fry> and block shouldn't be huge in your hand after that too :P

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L358[07:08:51] <AEnterprise> fry: [14:07:34] [Client thread/WARN]: Unable to load block model: 'minecraft:block/block/cube_all' for variant: 'chunkloaderz:blockChunkLoader#normal': java.io.FileNotFoundException: minecraft:models/block/block/cube_all.json

L359[07:09:14] <fry> ah, so you don't need "block/" there

L360[07:09:31] <AEnterprise> yep

L361[07:09:32] * fry edits the gist back

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L364[07:11:15] <AEnterprise> still not what i expected

L365[07:11:35] <AEnterprise> result: http://imgur.com/qWXqPuS

L366[07:11:41] <AEnterprise> gisting json

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L368[07:11:59] <fry> remove all other json relating to this block

L369[07:12:12] <fry> (in models/block and models/item)

L370[07:12:21] <AEnterprise> i have no other json files

L371[07:12:45] <AEnterprise> this is the only json in the entire assets: https://gist.github.com/AEnterprise/8cfcc3bd607ad8c6a393

L372[07:13:26] <fry> show the ModelLoader registration lone

L373[07:13:28] <fry> *line

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L375[07:13:42] <AEnterprise> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(new ItemStack(this).getItem(), 0, new ModelResourceLocation("blockChunkLoader", "inventory"));

L376[07:13:58] <AEnterprise> it's in the block constructor

L377[07:14:27] <gigaherz> morning people

L378[07:14:41] <AEnterprise> good morning gigaherz

L379[07:14:44] <gigaherz> AEnterprise: if that isn't working, it's because your modelresourcelocation is missing data

L380[07:15:10] <AEnterprise> sadly i only started 1.8 modding today so i have no idea what data would be missing

L381[07:15:15] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/ElementsOfPower/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/elementsofpower/client/ClientProxy.java#L91

L382[07:15:18] <gigaherz> check how I do it

L383[07:15:23] <fry> you need a full name, with the modid, not just "blockChunkLoader"

L384[07:15:23] <gigaherz> feel free to copy the functions ;P

L385[07:15:54] <AEnterprise> oh i see

L386[07:16:04] <AEnterprise> the modid needs to be there as well, thangs gigaherz

L387[07:16:32] <gigaherz> well

L388[07:16:37] <gigaherz> not just the modid

L389[07:16:44] <gigaherz> but also preferably in lowercase

L390[07:17:01] <AEnterprise> i only use lowercase for my modids in my mods, prevents alot of trouble

L391[07:17:13] <AEnterprise> now it works :D

L392[07:17:15] <gigaherz> I jst keep the modid lowercase to save time ;P

L393[07:18:14] <AEnterprise> achievement get: first simple block :P

L394[07:18:14] <AEnterprise> http://imgur.com/7UI0RtF

L395[07:18:42] <AEnterprise> thanks guys

L396[07:19:34] <gigaherz> btw if you do look at my code, don't copy the objloader stuff, Forge now has its own version of it, and it's a lot fancier ;P

L397[07:19:47] <AEnterprise> not sure if i'll need a model yet but thanks

L398[07:20:13] <AEnterprise> as you seem to know quite some on 1.8 modding mind if i poke in your code from time to time as examle to learn from?

L399[07:20:29] <gigaherz> well I'm not sure that I'm a good example, but sure

L400[07:20:30] <gigaherz> ;P

L401[07:21:08] <AEnterprise> i just need a mod that works i can look things up in, like block textures, adding a model, how those blockstates exactly work and are used

L402[07:21:15] <tterrag> AEnterprise: you can't do new ItemStack(this) in a constructor

L403[07:21:21] <tterrag> it needs to be registered first

L404[07:21:26] <AEnterprise> you can

L405[07:21:37] <AEnterprise> i just do it AFTHER the registration call to the gameregistry

L406[07:21:51] <fry> AEnterprise: you can always look at forge examples: https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/tree/master/src/test

L407[07:22:23] <tterrag> you shouldnt' be registering in constructors either -.-

L408[07:22:34] <tterrag> leaking constructing instances...everywhere...

L409[07:22:40] <tterrag> anyways, I need to get to bed

L410[07:22:47] <AEnterprise> i will, i usualy use a combination of forge examples and full mods to find the stuff i need

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L412[07:22:55] <AEnterprise> tterrag what's wrong with it?

L413[07:23:02] <gigaherz> oh and if that's a block

L414[07:23:04] <gigaherz> the proper way is

L415[07:23:05] <gigaherz> Item.getItemFromBlock(block)

L416[07:23:11] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> you leak an incompletely constructed object

L417[07:23:32] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> what if I extend your class? and want to change registration behavior?

L418[07:23:38] <AEnterprise> normaly the registerblock is the last call in the contructor

L419[07:23:43] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> or if you try to access a field that has not yet been defined?

L420[07:23:46] <gigaherz> also the model stuff is client-only

L421[07:23:51] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> but subclasses call super() first

L422[07:23:58] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> so they will be missing their construction at register time

L423[07:24:26] <gigaherz> you aren't supposed to call that if you are in a dedicated server, hence why people register models in the client proxy

L424[07:24:33] <AEnterprise> so far it has caused no problems for me, i see alot of people do it like this

L425[07:24:34] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> also that

L426[07:24:37] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> it's not common code

L427[07:24:53] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> AEnterprise: passing 'this' to ANYTHING inside a constructor is considered bad form at least in java

L428[07:25:00] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> there's plenty of resources about that

L429[07:25:06] <tterrag|ZZZzzz> but seriously...bed now

L430[07:25:07] <AEnterprise> ah good to know, i'll move that to the proxy then

L431[07:25:13] <gigaherz> in java it's just bad form, in C++ it's a straight out compiler warning

L432[07:25:14] <gigaherz> ;p

L433[07:25:24] * AEnterprise is no professional java coder

L434[07:26:07] <AEnterprise> but if it's bad then i'll move it around

L435[07:26:18] <gigaherz> me neither

L436[07:26:54] <AEnterprise> i guess most modders aren't actually

L437[07:27:08] <gigaherz> yeah

L438[07:27:16] <AEnterprise> some might think they are professional cause they write a minecraft mod

L439[07:27:18] <gigaherz> and there's a lot of people who overengineer their code ;P

L440[07:27:23] <gigaherz> professional or not

L441[07:27:40] <gigaherz> I have seen people do really fancy things to "hide" stuff from sight

L442[07:28:13] <gigaherz> trying to make their code modular so that they can add and remove individual block/item classes without having to change anything

L443[07:28:21] <AEnterprise> or not thinking things through

L444[07:28:22] <gigaherz> and here I think "but are you EVER going to want to remove those things?"

L445[07:28:59] <gigaherz> so in my case I just register the stuff where it fits ;P

L446[07:29:05] <AEnterprise> i've seen people use the Object class to store things with alot of casts

L447[07:29:18] <AEnterprise> <T> makes that alot easier

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L450[07:36:56] <Cypher121> AEnterprise: most likely Object comes from minecraft decompiled code, which often returns stuff like List without generics

L451[07:37:23] <fry> that changes in 1.8.8 :P

L452[07:37:38] <AEnterprise> true, but modders doing custom recipes for example

L453[07:37:56] <AEnterprise> most don't use generics, alot/most even use Object for the output

L454[07:38:04] <Cypher121> copy-paste-modify

L455[07:38:27] <AEnterprise> bad habbit :P

L456[07:38:41] <Cypher121> it will change to such form in bytecode anyway, so no reason to bother with that if you're copying 99% of the code

L457[07:38:46] <AEnterprise> just cause it works doesn't mean you should do it like that if there's an better/easier way

L458[07:39:01] <Cypher121> there's cleaner way

L459[07:39:15] <Cypher121> for runtime that doesn't matter at all.

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L461[07:40:28] <Cypher121> and if you think copypasting is bad, try extending ShapedOreRecipe with OOP tools only

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L464[07:47:07] <bspkrs> go home, PyCharm, you're drunk. http://i.imgur.com/MoGkVsd.png

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L466[07:48:43] <Cypher121> if you switch 1st and 2nd digits, it's almost correctly sorted

L467[07:49:06] <bspkrs> it's a natural sort, but clearly it's skipping the first token

L468[07:49:27] <bspkrs> er, not natural

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L528[10:34:04] <Curle> Ohai

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L531[10:36:30] <Curle> Okay, on the subject of fluids in 1.7.10; How?

L532[10:37:08] <Curle> I tried extending BlockFluidClassic (Or whatever that is), and changing some methods, but it doesn't work. At all.

L533[10:37:20] <Curle> Doesn't add, no bucket, can't setblock, etc.

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L535[10:38:48] <TehNut|Sleep> BlockFluidClassic is just the block. You need to handle the bucket yourself

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L537[10:39:25] <Curle> Oh, right. My wording isn't as good as I'd like then, the bucket does nothing.

L538[10:39:49] <TehNut> It extends ItemBucket, right?

L539[10:40:01] <Curle> Yep

L540[10:40:43] <TehNut> Code?

L541[10:41:42] <Curle> One sec, pastebin's acting up

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L543[10:45:33] <Curle> Looks like pastebin's not working for me, and ShareX, and Gyazo

L544[10:45:41] <Curle> Does anything work here? :P

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L546[10:49:43] <Curle> Any alternatives?

L547[10:51:01] <alex_6611> puush?

L548[10:53:01] <Curle> Sec

L549[11:04:00] <Curle> Nope, neither are working at all.

L550[11:04:03] <Curle> Damn.

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L556[11:07:41] <sham1> You need to puush at me

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L559[11:11:13] <unascribed> Curle: gist? http://gist.github.com

L560[11:11:46] <Curle> Don't puush me

L561[11:11:47] <Curle> :P

L562[11:13:06] <Curle> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d0c3403c678909a1b727

L563[11:13:08] <Curle> Finally

L564[11:13:23] <Curle> That's the code that I seem neccessary, and I ahve no idea why it no work

L565[11:13:25] <Curle> It's for 1.7.10

L566[11:13:41] <Curle> have* it is not working*

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L568[11:17:30] <gigaherz> Curle: do you register the handler with MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS?

L569[11:17:40] <unascribed> wrong annotation

L570[11:17:43] <unascribed> @SubscribeEvent

L571[11:17:44] <unascribed> not @Subscribe

L572[11:17:50] <gigaherz> oh that too

L573[11:18:08] <Curle> Well, I'm a dumb. But that's on the pickup fluid. The filled bucket does nothing on right click.

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L581[11:30:36] <Jezza> Was IASMHook ever used?

L582[11:31:18] <Curle> By me?

L583[11:31:19] <Jezza> It's been around since before I was around...

L584[11:31:29] <Curle> Oh, sorry :P

L585[11:31:32] <Curle> No idea

L586[11:31:49] <Curle> I think not, but I've been trying to learn 1.8 for a while so my mind is blank

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L588[11:35:55] <Zaggy1024> IExtendedEntityProperties is never automatically synced between the server and client, right?

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L591[11:42:38] <Soni> how can I port Forge to 1.8.8?

L592[11:43:17] <Curle> Either wait for the official version, or use MCP and update the hooks and methods yourself

L593[11:43:21] <Curle> On the 1.8.8 jar

L594[11:44:03] <Soni> hmm what's this branch? https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/tree/noci-1.8.8

L595[11:44:43] <unascribed> it's an update of forge to 1.8.8, as it says :P

L596[11:44:56] <fry> duh :P

L597[11:45:14] <progwml6> its not something useful as it doesn't compile :P

L598[11:45:29] <Curle> It's there for testing, I presume.

L599[11:46:48] <fry> it's there so that multiple people could help with the forge update

L600[11:47:01] <gigaherz> "noci" as in "disable CI stuff"?

L601[11:47:08] <fry> yup

L602[11:47:09] <gigaherz> or does it mean something else?

L603[11:47:17] <fry> nope, just that :P

L604[11:47:25] <Soni> yay I can finally help forge update

L605[11:47:53] <Soni> ... or try to, I guess

L606[11:48:16] <Curle> Good luck

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L609[11:48:26] <Curle> That stuff's more complicated than C#

L610[11:48:59] <Soni> it's still better than the .NET GC tho

L611[11:49:02] <gigaherz> C#ins't complicated, C# is nice! ;P

L612[11:49:14] <Curle> To you!

L613[11:49:16] <Curle> XP

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L616[11:50:00] <gigaherz> every language has its own set of tricks to learn

L617[11:50:01] <gigaherz> ;P

L618[11:50:11] <gigaherz> Java also has some fancy features

L619[11:50:15] <Curle> My favourite one for Java:

L620[11:50:17] <Curle> Don't.

L621[11:50:17] <Curle> :P

L622[11:50:18] <gigaherz> buit if you skip all of those fancy features

L623[11:50:36] <gigaherz> writing basic code in C, Java, and C# is practically the same

L624[11:50:43] <gigaherz> -i

L625[11:51:04] <Curle> If I recall, C# has the public static int name; stuff

L626[11:51:21] <Curle> But C has like "int name* = 0;"

L627[11:51:28] <Curle> Or is that C++?

L628[11:51:38] <Curle> Damnit, I'm losing track of the C now! :P

L629[11:52:06] <Curle> I think I need to go jump into (the) C

L630[11:52:07] <Curle> :P

L631[11:52:10] <Soni> it's "int *name" ("int pointer name"), "int name pointer" doesn't make sense

L632[11:52:45] <Soni> (also doesn't compile :P)

L633[11:53:01] <Curle> at least I had the things there, albeit not the right order, thanks for the info. I'll definitely use this within 3 years. /s

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L635[11:54:12] <Curle> Hmm, does anyone know where I can get a vanilla texture pack (For modifying (placeholders/buckets)?

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L637[11:54:51] <Curle> Anything's better than the standard pink/black stuff

L638[11:55:01] <unascribed> ~/.minecraft/versions/1.8/1.8.jar

L639[11:55:04] <unascribed> assets directory

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L641[11:55:19] <Curle> Time to go JAR hunting! :P

L642[11:55:32] <unascribed> on Windows, %APPDATA%\.minecraft\versions\1.8\1.8.jar

L643[11:55:48] <Curle> Wait, shit. I think the only Minecraft I have here is on Eclipse.

L644[11:55:52] <Curle> Damnit!

L645[11:56:07] <unascribed> I have a pre-extracted assets folder, I could zip it and send it

L646[11:56:30] <Curle> No good, I need the 1.7.10 assets

L647[11:56:42] <unascribed> 1.8 assets are identical, but okay

L648[11:56:43] <Curle> 1.8 I think has a completely different system for texturising

L649[11:56:53] <Curle> Or, the Jsons have taken over

L650[11:57:11] <unascribed> textures are identical

L651[11:57:25] <unascribed> https://unascribed.com/f/6f55d76a_1.7.10-assets.zip

L652[11:58:06] <unascribed> pre-extracted assets folder from a vanilla 1.7.10 jar

L653[11:58:11] <Curle> Thank you! :D

L654[11:58:14] <unascribed> well, I guess not pre-extracted

L655[11:58:17] <unascribed> but put in a zip instead of a jar

L656[11:58:28] <Curle> That was incredibly quick!

L657[11:58:47] <unascribed> it was like, 3 bash commands :P

L658[11:59:08] <Curle> :P

L659[11:59:15] <Curle> Sweet site

L660[12:00:33] <unascribed> this is one of the many reasons I use Linux, if you know how to use the shell it's super fast to do things like this

L661[12:00:33] <unascribed> thanks

L662[12:00:33] <Curle> Dat HTML is over 9000

L663[12:00:33] <unascribed> video's a bit fast

L664[12:00:34] <Curle> I think I see trees

L665[12:00:34] <Curle> Amirite?

L666[12:00:34] <unascribed> yeah, it's an extremely blurred video of me messing with my mod

L667[12:00:34] <Curle> It's a short looping video of Minecraft?

L668[12:00:34] <Curle> Detective = me!

L669[12:00:42] <Curle> It looks like a mini-portal thing

L670[12:00:44] <Curle> Nice

L671[12:00:58] <unascribed> https://unascribed.com/v/85ba38cf.mp4 unblurred video + sound

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L673[12:01:26] <Curle> https://gyazo.com/b85ab2034e93d968592c93ea5412f43d

L674[12:01:29] <Curle> Hmm

L675[12:02:46] <unascribed> weird

L676[12:03:15] <Curle> I can see the home page fine

L677[12:03:50] <unascribed> I'm only two versions of Firefox ahead of you and it works fine

L678[12:03:53] <Curle> http://i.imgur.com/WAA0ecE.png

L679[12:04:01] <Curle> Two versions of firefox ahead?

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L681[12:04:07] <Curle> How did you work that one out?

L682[12:04:08] <Curle> :P

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L684[12:04:12] <unascribed> yeah, you're on 41 i'm on 43a1

L685[12:04:13] <unascribed> user agent

L686[12:04:31] <Curle> http://i.imgur.com/WAA0ecE.png

L687[12:04:33] <unascribed> either way, kind of spamming up the channel at this point

L688[12:04:38] <unascribed> should probably move this to PM

L689[12:04:42] <Curle> Yea, I see that :P

L690[12:05:01] <Wuppy> o/

L691[12:05:06] <unascribed> \o

L692[12:05:12] <Curle> WUPPEY

L693[12:05:27] <Curle> -hug-

L694[12:05:55] <Wuppy> hai :D

L695[12:06:00] <Curle> :D

L696[12:06:17] <Wuppy> how're you?

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L700[12:07:11] <Curle> gud

L701[12:07:24] <Curle> I did nothing to my mod since I last saw you, apparently

L702[12:07:40] <Wuppy> I don't do modding anymore either :c

L703[12:07:57] <Curle> Well then

L704[12:08:11] <Curle> Coming from the modding sensu, that's strange. :P

L705[12:08:37] <Wuppy> no time for modding, just game development

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L707[12:08:41] <Wuppy> and also exessive drinking :P

L708[12:08:49] <Curle> And dancing on the bar

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L710[12:08:53] <Curle> :D

L711[12:09:19] <Wuppy> yeah I also do that regularly... like yesterday :P

L712[12:09:51] <Wuppy> although yesterday I also won 11 free beers (for the 3 of us) and free tickets to a cool festival next week, great stuff :D

L713[12:10:32] <Curle> Which festival would that be?

L714[12:11:43] <Wuppy> Welcome to the 90s

L715[12:12:01] <Wuppy> and I also won tickets to a festival tomorrow called Outrageous

L716[12:12:48] <Curle> Ooh

L717[12:12:53] <Curle> Sounds really fancy.

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L719[12:13:13] <gabizou|laptop> Wuppy do you have to dress up in the most 90's outfit you can imagine?

L720[12:14:17] <Wuppy> gabizou|laptop, you dont have to

L721[12:14:18] <Wuppy> so I wont

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L723[12:21:59] <Curle> That's no fun, Wup!

L724[12:22:27] <Curle> When you go to a festival, make the festival want to come to you!

L725[12:22:44] <Wuppy> I do my best :P

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L727[12:22:51] <Wuppy> already had 3 parties this week and will have to more :P

L728[12:23:15] <McJty> Don't know if anyone answered my question above?

L729[12:23:24] <McJty> I seemed to have been logged off for a while

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L731[12:24:30] <Curle> What was the question?

L732[12:24:36] <Curle> the IASM hook?

L733[12:24:36] <McJty> <McJty> A hypothetical question. Is it possible to split a mod (case in point: rftools) in two different mods without compatibility issues? i.e. is there a way to move existing blocks to another mod somehow?

L734[12:24:36] <McJty> <McJty> If not I can still do it by making the 'modules' not mods and just jar files

L735[12:24:36] <McJty> <McJty> Just checking my options here and if it is feasible to do it

L736[12:24:43] <Curle> Oh, one sec

L737[12:25:02] <Curle> Yes.

L738[12:25:16] <Curle> if (othermod), register items.

L739[12:25:19] <Curle> else null

L740[12:25:52] <McJty> hmm, so all items (also from the 'module mods') get registered under the main mod 'modid'

L741[12:26:01] <McJty> But then they don't really have to be mods. Just a jar would suffice

L742[12:26:04] <Curle> Yep.

L743[12:26:21] <Curle> Reika used an empty .jar and tested for it in one of his mods somewhere

L744[12:26:29] <Curle> I have both on my SP world

L745[12:27:43] <McJty> Ok thanks

L746[12:28:10] <Wuppy> apperantly I worked for a rather well known/big camping in the nethelrands this week :o

L747[12:28:17] <SkySom> Pretty sure Botania does the same for Garden of Glass or whatever it is.

L748[12:28:29] <SkySom> check for an empty jar.

L749[12:28:39] <Curle> Basically, it's an empty mod (you NEED to register it for it to work, I think.) and if it exists and is loaded, you register stuff.

L750[12:28:50] <Curle> Yep, GOG is the same

L751[12:29:01] <Wuppy> jesus... this city is a bit crazy

L752[12:29:05] <Curle> An empty mod. (You can tell because it's in the Mod list)

L753[12:29:12] <Curle> This city?

L754[12:29:16] <Wuppy> yesterday there was a fire at our local shell

L755[12:29:30] <Wuppy> as well as someone who got killed with an explosive in his car (gang war)

L756[12:29:35] <Curle> Shell?

L757[12:29:38] <McJty> Why is an empty jar needed? I don't understand that

L758[12:29:53] <Curle> So you can test if it exists

L759[12:29:54] <McJty> Why can I simply not test for the existance of a specific class that occurs in the module mod?

L760[12:29:54] <Wuppy> today a dead body was found near the city center & explosives were found in some houses here

L761[12:29:59] <McJty> But why an empty jar?

L762[12:30:03] <McJty> It will not exist in an empty jar

L763[12:30:05] <Wuppy> Curle, shell http://www.shell.com/

L764[12:30:49] <Curle> McJty, that's what you will be doing. In essence, look for the MODID of the module, and you're good as gold.

L765[12:31:02] <Curle> Only need one class then

L766[12:31:10] <Curle> @Mod is all you need

L767[12:31:34] <Curle> One line, even. (Apart from Package and the class thing)

L768[12:31:49] <Curle> Oh, the fuel company.

L769[12:31:52] <Curle> gg, me

L770[12:32:58] <Curle> McJty, look at this: https://github.com/Vazkii/Botania/blob/master/src/main/java/vazkii/botania/common/Botania.java

L771[12:33:07] <Curle> It has stuff related to isGardenOfGlassLoaded

L772[12:33:23] <Curle> that's an empty jar, it's looking for it existing and then enabling some stuff

L773[12:33:30] <Curle> Thanks for the example, Sky.

L774[12:34:24] <Curle> It also has a load of checks for other mods, and I am spamming so I'll shut up until I'm needed. :P

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L777[12:35:08] <McJty> I still don't see why an 'empty' jar is needed

L778[12:35:16] <McJty> Either the jar is there with the module

L779[12:35:17] <McJty> Or it is not

L780[12:35:21] <McJty> Why should it ever be empty?

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L782[12:37:39] <Curle> Not empty, loading an empty mod

L783[12:37:47] <Curle> scan for the mod in the game

L784[12:37:50] <Curle> If there, do stuff

L785[12:37:53] <Curle> If not, ignore.

L786[12:38:14] <McJty> Why does it have to be a mod actually?

L787[12:38:26] <Curle> Or you can make them separate mods, and just do the things on their own

L788[12:38:43] <McJty> I was thinking of using just a simple jar file.

L789[12:38:49] <McJty> No mod stuff or anything

L790[12:39:24] <Curle> Yea, but I don't think you could scan for a class, or if you can, it'd have to be VERY precise, as there will probably be more than one mod loaded with the same named class somewhere

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L792[12:39:40] <Curle> Make it something like a5B762Gsa91L

L793[12:40:02] <McJty> Well I think RFToolsModuleBla should be pretty unique too :-)

L794[12:40:13] <Curle> Or scan for a line in a class, which is what I told you to do

L795[12:40:13] <Curle> :P

L796[12:40:15] <McJty> Anyway I'll think about it some more

L797[12:40:31] <Curle> If you find better wording, you know where to find us

L798[12:40:33] <McJty> I also have to see how easy it is to setup my build env for this

L799[12:40:34] <Curle> :P

L800[12:40:54] <McJty> Would be nice if I could have a simple environment and just have 'gradlew build' produce the main mod jar and the module jars

L801[12:41:01] <McJty> But no idea how to do that

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L809[14:12:54] <Curle> Texturing spree complete!

L810[14:12:56] <Curle> :D

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L812[14:15:58] <Curle> My portal works, too! I didn't use any reference, just pure guessing (And Eclipse)

L813[14:17:34] <Curle> Oh, ahm

L814[14:17:54] <Zaggy1024> ugh

L815[14:18:06] <Curle> something up, Zag?

L816[14:18:29] <Zaggy1024> I'm trying to use ServerConfigurationManager.recreateEntity to clear everything about a player when they enter my dimension

L817[14:18:40] <Curle> Hmm

L818[14:18:42] <Zaggy1024> but when after that I try to put them into the portal they went through it doesn't work

L819[14:18:52] <Zaggy1024> it just places the player at spawn location

L820[14:19:08] <Zaggy1024> I used respawnedPlayer.setLocationAndAngles and then respawnedPlayer.playerNetServerHandler.setPlayerLocation

L821[14:19:31] <Curle> Hmm

L822[14:19:41] <Curle> Try using another method to clear the player

L823[14:20:01] <Zaggy1024> wait a sec, am I moron?

L824[14:20:34] <Zaggy1024> looks like I might've been a moron

L825[14:20:38] <Curle> Inventory is already cleared

L826[14:20:40] <Zaggy1024> hopefully that's true, because then it woudl work now

L827[14:20:49] <Curle> What have you done now?

L828[14:21:02] <Zaggy1024> I don't just want to clear inventory, I want to clear EVERYTHING

L829[14:21:12] <Curle> inv is already cleared, I just said that

L830[14:21:15] <Zaggy1024> including experience, anything in mod inventories

L831[14:21:19] <Curle> Try using playerCapabilities

L832[14:21:25] <Zaggy1024> er what?

L833[14:21:33] <Curle> Wait, ignore that

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L835[14:21:41] <Curle> My mind disappeared for a second :P

L836[14:22:04] <Zaggy1024> whoa, this is very odd

L837[14:22:17] <Zaggy1024> it transferred the world, but it's not rendering

L838[14:22:19] <Curle> "this"?

L839[14:22:24] <Zaggy1024> only bounding boxes

L840[14:22:30] <Curle> Oh?

L841[14:22:40] <Curle> Is it a vanilla block?

L842[14:22:46] <Curle> Try that

L843[14:22:54] <Curle> Stone, and if that works, it's the block

L844[14:22:58] <Zaggy1024> I mean nothing is rendering

L845[14:23:00] <Zaggy1024> not even TEs

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L847[14:23:37] <Curle> oh?

L848[14:23:43] <Curle> Never seen this before

L849[14:24:42] <Curle> Minecraft is currently 0.33 fps

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L851[14:25:36] <Curle> Why is this happening!?

L852[14:25:51] <Curle> It was just at 30

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L855[14:28:34] <Zaggy1024> what's in the world?

L856[14:29:42] <Zaggy1024> ah...I suppose recreatePlayerEntity doesn't work to well with changing dimensions

L857[14:29:43] <Zaggy1024> stupid thing

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L859[14:32:40] <Zaggy1024> uh...whoops

L860[14:32:49] <Zaggy1024> it got stuck transferring me back and forth >.>

L861[14:33:10] <Curle> It's a blank superflat world on Redstone Ready with nothing on it

L862[14:33:13] <Curle> Just generated

L863[14:33:26] <Curle> Zag, that's what happened with my item

L864[14:33:30] <Curle> Can't stop it

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L866[14:34:13] <Zaggy1024> well I think the reason for me is that somehow setting timeUntilPortal on the respawned player isn't working...

L867[14:34:21] <Zaggy1024> it seems like it's just ignoring the respawn

L868[14:34:37] <Curle> Well, I'll be damned. timeUntilPortal?

L869[14:34:41] <Curle> That may be my problem

L870[14:36:29] <Zaggy1024> with an item?

L871[14:36:49] <Zaggy1024> I assume you're using item right click?

L872[14:37:13] <Curle> ye

L873[14:37:19] <Curle> OnItemUse

L874[14:37:24] <Zaggy1024> also, timeUntilPortal doesn't work unless you make your teleportation code not teleport if it's > 0 or whatever

L875[14:37:24] <Curle> to be exact

L876[14:37:39] <Curle> the Teleporter(thing) class?

L877[14:37:42] <Curle> Ye, it does

L878[14:37:42] <Zaggy1024> I would think item use wouldn't be called after being transported

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L880[14:37:53] <Curle> It's the vanilla nether teleporter code

L881[14:37:55] <Zaggy1024> Teleporter can't stop a teleportation AFAIK

L882[14:38:07] <Curle> Changed for my dimension

L883[14:38:11] <Curle> (DimID)

L884[14:38:34] <Zaggy1024> Teleporter only sets up the portals on either end of the transportation, it doesn't stop the player teleporting

L885[14:38:47] <Zaggy1024> by the time it's called the player is already in the dimension, I think

L886[14:39:01] <Curle> Oh, I see.

L887[14:39:17] <Curle> On teleporting, it sets up a portal where you land so the portal block teleports you back

L888[14:39:18] <Curle> Damnit

L889[14:39:26] <Zaggy1024> YESSS

L890[14:39:28] <Zaggy1024> it worked!!

L891[14:39:36] <Curle> Christ, that scared me.

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L894[14:39:54] <Zaggy1024> it didn't set the player's network handler thing on the server when I called recreate

L895[14:40:00] <Zaggy1024> so I had to set it manually, but now it works

L896[14:40:19] <Curle> gg

L897[14:40:53] <Zaggy1024> er it didn't set the player's network handler thing's player to the new player

L898[14:40:54] <Zaggy1024> lol

L899[14:41:07] <Zaggy1024> so it thought it was working with the old player instance still

L900[14:41:11] <Curle> How do I get a EntityPlayerMP from onItemUse?

L901[14:41:12] <Curle> :P

L902[14:41:23] <Curle> Oh, that makes sense

L903[14:41:25] <Zaggy1024> !world.isRemote and cast?

L904[14:41:31] <Zaggy1024> or you could just instanceof it

L905[14:41:42] <Curle> I mean, EntityPlayerMP playermp = ?

L906[14:41:47] <Zaggy1024> I suppose fake players could bust something though

L907[14:41:49] <Curle> I'm stuck on that :P

L908[14:41:54] <Zaggy1024> (EntityPlayerMP) player?

L909[14:41:57] <Curle> What do I put to initialize it?

L910[14:42:03] <Curle> Hm

L911[14:42:05] <Zaggy1024> that's a cast

L912[14:42:06] <killjoy> Does anyone know of a account that doesn't have a skin?

L913[14:42:17] <Curle> Yes, loads.

L914[14:42:18] <Zaggy1024> a random bunch of characters?

L915[14:42:20] <Zaggy1024> :P

L916[14:42:34] <Zaggy1024> "leiajeltjqiojweltjowiqjeljialngea" probably doesn't have a skin ;)

L917[14:42:35] <Curle> direwolf20 is the most popular

L918[14:42:35] <killjoy> ie one without a SKIN portion of the profile properties

L919[14:42:38] <gigaherz> killjoy: "Player"? ;P

L920[14:42:51] <Curle> Wendy343 is my sister's

L921[14:42:51] <gigaherz> oh

L922[14:42:54] <gigaherz> no idea what you mean then

L923[14:42:54] <gigaherz> XD

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L925[14:43:07] <Curle> Wait, without a skin altogether?

L926[14:43:10] <killjoy> Yes

L927[14:43:12] <Curle> Not Steve or Alex?

L928[14:43:16] <killjoy> No.

L929[14:43:21] <killjoy> one without one uploaded

L930[14:43:28] <gigaherz> I thought anyone without an explicit skin used Player.png

L931[14:43:30] <killjoy> such as a brand new account

L932[14:43:32] <Curle> So Steve or Alex then

L933[14:43:38] <Curle> player.png

L934[14:43:41] <Curle> Too late

L935[14:43:52] <gigaherz> or whatever the filenames are these days ;P

L936[14:44:02] <Curle> time for Jar hunting!

L937[14:44:20] <unascribed> or you could just use the assets I sent you >.>

L938[14:44:23] <Curle> steve.png

L939[14:44:26] <Curle> I used that

L940[14:44:27] <Curle> :P

L941[14:44:40] <Curle> assets.minecraft.textures.entity

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L943[14:45:55] <unascribed> huh

L944[14:46:00] <unascribed> apparently direwolf20 *does* have a skin

L945[14:46:08] <Curle> Wait, what?

L946[14:46:10] <unascribed> I should stop using his account to test my skin retriever >.>

L947[14:46:15] <Curle> Oh yea, he changed one pixel

L948[14:46:16] <unascribed> https://sessionserver.mojang.com/session/minecraft/profile/bbb87dbe690f4205bdc572ffb8ebc29d

L949[14:46:19] <unascribed> if you decode the base64

L950[14:46:21] <unascribed> there's a skin field

L951[14:46:37] <unascribed> wonderful >.>

L952[14:46:41] <Curle> He did say at one point

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L954[14:46:45] <Curle> Try someone like Steve

L955[14:46:46] <unascribed> so my skin loader probably explodes on skinless accounts

L956[14:47:05] <unascribed> https://api.mojang.com/profiles/minecraft/Steve

L957[14:47:08] <unascribed> steve is a psuedo-account

L958[14:47:11] <unascribed> no uuid

L959[14:47:13] <Curle> Wendy343's my sister's account, no skin (Doesn't know how to get one)

L960[14:47:14] <unascribed> can't get textures

L961[14:47:35] <Curle> Or is it Wendy1400

L962[14:47:41] <Curle> Can't remember, one of the two

L963[14:47:50] <unascribed> it is neither

L964[14:48:05] <Curle> Huh?

L965[14:48:14] <unascribed> Wendy343 and Wendy1400 both do not resolve

L966[14:48:20] <Curle> That's strange

L967[14:48:59] <Curle> If I had money, I'd buy you a skin testing account, alas, no credit card or any of that shit :P

L968[14:49:32] <Curle> Let me go skin hunting

L969[14:49:34] <Curle> :P

L970[14:49:46] <unascribed> we're not looking for the default skin

L971[14:50:06] <unascribed> we're looking for an account with no skin because Mojang's API returns a special value (or rather, the lack of a value) if the account doesn't have one

L972[14:51:01] <Curle> ye, that.

L973[14:51:27] <Curle> Apparently, if the player joins a game that connects to the authentication servers (starts a game), it is given a skin.

L974[14:51:38] <Curle> You want someone that has bought an account but hasn't played yet

L975[14:51:47] <Curle> There are about 30, I think

L976[14:52:39] <Curle> Ah, cripe

L977[14:52:43] <Curle> Spam again, back to PM :P

L978[14:53:48] <unascribed> well, killjoy originally asked

L979[14:53:55] <unascribed> so

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L981[14:54:27] <sham1> Ohh, the loading screen for IDEA 15 is fancy

L982[14:54:29] <killjoy> I figure I don't need it anymore.

L983[14:54:41] <killjoy> I just wanted it so I can test things.

L984[14:54:57] <killjoy> pretty much impersonate them when I start and see if the skin loads properly

L985[14:55:02] <diesieben07> the new loading screens are always fancy sham :D

L986[14:55:04] <killjoy> but I don't think it's required.

L987[14:55:34] <Curle> diesie, did you just come on at the right time or did that ping you somehow?

L988[14:55:35] <Curle> :P

L989[14:55:44] <sham1> Also, my license for IDEA 14 is no longer working

L990[14:55:45] <sham1> Well shit

L991[14:55:50] <unascribed> IDEA confirmed pingword for diesieben

L992[14:55:51] <sham1> Now I have to use the community version

L993[14:55:55] <diesieben07> the seven does not "come on"

L994[14:55:56] <diesieben07> the seven is always there

L995[14:56:10] <Curle> The seven?

L996[14:56:14] <Curle> Oh, 07

L997[14:56:17] <Curle> I'll be damned

L998[14:56:24] <diesieben07> /me

L999[14:56:45] * Curle crushes diesie's head with a vice

L1000[14:56:55] <Curle> Christ, that took a dark turn really quickly

L1001[14:56:56] <Curle> :P

L1002[14:56:57] <diesieben07> ow

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L1004[14:57:10] * diesieben07 only pretends to be hurt

L1005[14:57:20] <Curle> DIESIE IS GOD CONFIRMED

L1006[14:57:21] * diesieben07 is a bot and thus does not posses a head

L1007[14:57:21] <Curle> :D

L1008[14:57:31] <unascribed> did you try some sort of command on your client you didn't know what it did?

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L1010[14:57:48] <Curle> u wot

L1011[14:57:55] <sham1> Also, why the hell is IDEA's JSON plugin still a Ultimate thing

L1012[14:57:56] <unascribed> [15:56] * Curle crushes diesie's head with a vice

L1013[14:58:01] <unascribed> you seemed surprised when that happened :P

L1014[14:58:08] <killjoy> *severed head falls to floor*

L1015[14:58:11] <sham1> That you can only use on the community version if you compile it yourself

L1016[14:58:12] * killjoy is only pretending to be dead

L1017[14:58:25] <Curle> No, that was just me.

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L1019[14:58:36] <Curle> If you can't tell, I'm still toasty at diesie :P

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L1021[14:58:58] * diesieben07 googles what toasty means

L1022[14:59:06] * diesieben07 hopes he doesn't get roasted

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L1024[14:59:24] * Curle prepares the feast table

L1025[14:59:41] <noiro> Quick question: when a player goes to a new dimension and there were mobs in the original one, won't they despawn?

L1026[14:59:48] <Curle> unloaded.

L1027[15:00:02] <unascribed> the chunks won't unload for a few ticks

L1028[15:00:02] <Curle> They're kept in memory until it's loaded again

L1029[15:00:05] <unascribed> so the answer is basically yes

L1030[15:00:11] <diesieben07> if there are no other players nearby and the chunks stay loaded for reason X... yes.

L1031[15:00:36] <Curle> If there's a chunk loading machine or a ticking block, yes, though

L1032[15:00:46] <noiro> I wonder if there's a way to cheat that somehow to prevent mobs from despawning

L1033[15:00:52] <Curle> Fake player

L1034[15:00:52] <sham1> Anyway, I feel sleepy

L1035[15:00:56] <Curle> Until it unloads

L1036[15:01:06] <sham1> And I do not understand how it is 11 in the evening already

L1037[15:01:07] <Zaggy1024> time to test player saving D:

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L1040[15:01:18] <diesieben07> fake player is something else ;)

L1041[15:01:30] <diesieben07> noiro, LivingSpawnEvent.AllowDespawn

L1042[15:01:36] <Curle> FYI, Diesie, toasty is a word I use to mean "mildly aggravated"

L1043[15:01:42] <Curle> It works for other things

L1044[15:01:46] <Zaggy1024> what's that about fake players?

L1045[15:01:47] <Curle> Like cats :3

L1046[15:01:47] <diesieben07> oh

L1047[15:01:49] <noiro> Basically I'm trying to create a temporary 3x3 chunk 'dimension' a player can go in and out of, but I don't want entities that go away when they go into the dimension and return

L1048[15:01:50] <diesieben07> what did I do? :(

L1049[15:01:59] <Curle> Do you remember last time we met?

L1050[15:02:01] <diesieben07> Zaggy1024, fake players dont keep chunks loaded

L1051[15:02:02] <unascribed> noiro, then why not just flag all mobs in the dimension as persistent?

L1052[15:02:07] <Curle> I sure do :P

L1053[15:02:10] <Zaggy1024> er okay?

L1054[15:02:15] <diesieben07> i do not curle

L1055[15:02:18] <Zaggy1024> I'm not sure why your'e saying that

L1056[15:02:24] <noiro> there won't be mobs in that dimension. It'll be mobs in whatever dimension they're coming from I want to persist temporarily until they return

L1057[15:02:30] <unascribed> ah

L1058[15:02:33] <diesieben07> uhhh

L1059[15:02:44] <diesieben07> curle said they would

L1060[15:02:46] <diesieben07> and i said no, thenyou asked why

L1061[15:03:09] <Zaggy1024> hm, is there something going on with Forge now where I get an NPE on the thePlayer or or the view entity?

L1062[15:03:13] <unascribed> you could flag all entities within an AABB around the player as persistent, and set a flag on an IExtendedEntityProperties and then unflag them when the player returns?

L1063[15:03:16] <Zaggy1024> I don't see how our mod could do that :|

L1064[15:03:21] <noiro> I guess forceloading the 3x3 chunks in the dimension they came from and placing a fakeplayer until they return would work

L1065[15:03:31] <diesieben07> Zaggy1024, in packet code?

L1066[15:03:33] <noiro> or flagging xD

L1067[15:03:46] <unascribed> I'd say the flagging is a better solution since it lets the chunks unload

L1068[15:03:56] <Zaggy1024> well, the one I'm getting right now is with syncCurrentPlayItem

L1069[15:03:58] <diesieben07> noiro, that is not what fkae players are. Again, LivingSpawnEvent.AllowDespawn

L1070[15:04:05] <unascribed> ^ or that

L1071[15:04:07] <Curle> Basically, I had a problem with an item that teleported me to a dimension then immediately teleported me back, you asked for the code, and you had a row at me for having badly named things in Wuppy (sorry) 's code that he took from vanilla

L1072[15:04:08] <diesieben07> that does not answer my question

L1073[15:04:20] <unascribed> Curle: try it again in survival

L1074[15:04:26] <Curle> Still toasty

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L1076[15:04:31] <diesieben07> Curle, i still stand the same. if you have th code in your mod, it is YOUR code and you are responsible for it.

L1077[15:04:39] <Curle> unascribed, it only works in survival :P

L1078[15:04:43] <unascribed> oh, okay

L1079[15:05:02] <unascribed> I ask because if the vanilla Teleporter was spawning a portal and you were in creative you would port back instantly

L1080[15:05:07] <Curle> I know, diesie, we've been through this 3 times already

L1081[15:05:15] <diesieben07> indeed we have

L1082[15:05:22] <Curle> Me and sham1 (sorry) figured that out last time

L1083[15:05:34] <Zaggy1024> wtf

L1084[15:05:37] <unascribed> if you want to avoid pinging someone, just put a dot in their name..

L1085[15:05:41] <Zaggy1024> I just keep on getting NPEs on the client player

L1086[15:05:50] <Curle> I need to add a timer, but for that, I need to add an EntityPlayerMP to the onItemUse method

L1087[15:05:55] <diesieben07> Zaggy1024, again, are you inside an IMessageHandler?

L1088[15:05:56] <Curle> No idea how

L1089[15:06:00] <unascribed> wait, what?

L1090[15:06:03] <unascribed> what are you trying to do?

L1091[15:06:07] <Zaggy1024> it's not my code that's causing it

L1092[15:06:11] <Curle> Add a timeUntilPortal thing

L1093[15:06:13] <Zaggy1024> AFAIK

L1094[15:06:22] <Zaggy1024> it doesn't involve any code I've written

L1095[15:06:22] <diesieben07> the code that is NPEing

L1096[15:06:23] <unascribed> as a warmup or a cooldown, or..?

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L1098[15:06:26] <Curle> It needs an EntityPlayerMP field

L1099[15:06:26] <diesieben07> is that inside IMessageHandler

L1100[15:06:30] <Zaggy1024> no

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L1102[15:06:38] <diesieben07> onitemUse HAS a player Curle

L1103[15:06:39] <Curle> And onItemUse doesn't have one

L1104[15:06:42] <unascribed> !gm Item.onItemUse 1.7.10

L1105[15:06:45] <diesieben07> then idk zaggy

L1106[15:06:51] <Zaggy1024> first two times this time round was syncCurrentPlayItem or whatever

L1107[15:06:57] <Curle> an EntityPlayer =/ EntityPlayerMP

L1108[15:06:58] <Zaggy1024> then it crashed while trying to render fog

L1109[15:07:04] <unascribed> so do an instanceof check, Curle

L1110[15:07:10] <diesieben07> Curle, on the server, yes. everyy player is EntityPlayerMP

L1111[15:07:16] <unascribed> if (player instanceof EntityPlayerMP) doTheThing((EntityPlayerMP)player);

L1112[15:07:30] <Curle> ta, unascribed.

L1113[15:07:31] <unascribed> has the side-effect of only running on the server-side

L1114[15:07:34] <unascribed> but you probably want that.

L1115[15:07:47] <Zaggy1024> for teleportation that's the only way

L1116[15:08:42] <unascribed> how the hell did i do this

L1117[15:08:47] <unascribed> I was wondering why my packet wasn't working

L1118[15:08:57] <unascribed> I put my serialization code into fromBytes and my deserialization into toBytes...

L1119[15:08:59] <Zaggy1024> is anyone else on 1532+?

L1120[15:09:12] <Curle> Thing is, I get an error because I'm using the EntityPlayer in a method that needs EntityPlayerMP

L1121[15:09:26] <diesieben07> thats why you cast -.-

L1122[15:09:29] <unascribed> Curle: the (EntityPlayerMP) part means "turn this EntityPlayer into an EntityPlayerMP"

L1123[15:09:30] <diesieben07> java 101

L1124[15:09:33] <Curle> Oh, forgot that

L1125[15:09:34] <Curle> :P

L1126[15:09:38] <unascribed> if it's not actually an EntityPlayerMP

L1127[15:09:40] <unascribed> you get an error

L1128[15:09:44] <diesieben07> not really that, but... yea

L1129[15:09:55] <diesieben07> it doesnt convert anything

L1130[15:10:01] <unascribed> diesieben07: I know, but it's an easy way to explain it

L1131[15:10:04] <Curle> I just saw the "(EntityPlayerMP) player" thing, sorry :P

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L1133[15:10:14] <diesieben07> yeah it is an easy, but very misleading way :P

L1134[15:10:28] <unascribed> I could go on a giant tangent about type hierarchy and bytecode and type erasure

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L1136[15:10:33] <unascribed> but that would be unneccessary

L1137[15:10:40] <SirWill> hey, is there any way to monitor where and what is generating in the world?

L1138[15:10:51] <Curle> The lag from that would be unfathomable

L1139[15:10:51] <unascribed> MinecraftForge.TERRAIN_GEN_BUS iirc

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L1141[15:10:57] <unascribed> Curle, no it wouldn't

L1142[15:11:02] <Curle> You sure?

L1143[15:11:07] <unascribed> yes, the events are firing anyway

L1144[15:11:28] <unascribed> assuming by "monitor" he means "run some custom code" and not "spam it to console"

L1145[15:11:29] <Curle> Writing to a method (no idea) alongside the generation events would slow things down quite a bit I'd imagine

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L1147[15:11:41] <unascribed> the generation code is methods..

L1148[15:11:52] <Curle> You know what I mean! :P

L1149[15:12:13] <unascribed> if your code is slow and calculates the first 10,000,000,000 digits of pi while it runs then sure it'd be slow

L1150[15:12:28] <SirWill> unascribed was the MinecraftForge.TERRAIN_GEN_BUS adressed to me?

L1151[15:12:33] <unascribed> SirWill, yes

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L1153[15:12:39] <diesieben07> please do. :D

L1154[15:12:40] <diesieben07> that would be fun

L1155[15:12:51] <SirWill> ah

L1156[15:13:38] <Curle> What, calculate the first 10 billion digits of pi?

L1157[15:13:55] <Curle> What on earth!?

L1158[15:14:01] <unascribed> yes, and obviously it'd be for accurate sine calculation

L1159[15:14:04] <Zaggy1024> this crash does seem to be some problem with concurrency though, it crashes very intermittently

L1160[15:14:14] <Curle> I just loaded my dev environment, and it doesn't have Forge loaded!

L1161[15:14:32] <Curle> Something fishy's afoot

L1162[15:14:41] <Curle> Is someone standing in the C?

L1163[15:14:47] <unascribed> >.>

L1164[15:14:50] <Curle> :D

L1165[15:14:56] <diesieben07> Zaggy1024, put in a breakpoint on any exception (intellij can do that for sure, eclipse as well i would imagine). when it throws, chekc the thread you are on and if its not the client main thread, check WHY that is.

L1166[15:15:25] <Zaggy1024> doesn't rendering fog *have* to be on the main thread though?

L1167[15:15:39] <diesieben07> yes it HAS to

L1168[15:15:47] <diesieben07> but still, a breakpoint is always helpful

L1169[15:15:48] <unascribed> problems with concurrency *are* intermittent :P

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L1171[15:16:00] <diesieben07> you can look around and try to figure out what is ACTUALLY happening

L1172[15:17:18] <Curle> Aha, fluids!

L1173[15:20:02] <Zaggy1024> unascribed, that's what I said :P

L1174[15:20:10] <unascribed> oh, *does* seem

L1175[15:20:14] <heldplayer> Why would GuiEditArrayEntries check the validation pattern for Strings, but not the valid values? ;_;

L1176[15:20:14] <unascribed> I thought you said doesn't for some reason

L1177[15:20:29] <unascribed> apparently my ping sounds are broken

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L1180[15:21:34] <HassanS6000> Does anybody know if ArmorRenderers are still a thing?

L1181[15:21:35] <Curle> Anyone know a good place for placeholder textures?

L1182[15:22:04] <HassanS6000> Example, I want to know if I could use the OBJ loader or B3D loader to load a model as my helmet, rather than a skin.

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L1185[15:22:37] <Curle> Everybody do the (net)split?

L1186[15:22:41] <Curle> Noice

L1187[15:22:43] <unascribed> apparently the nick "unascribed|away" is too long so it banned me -.-

L1188[15:22:56] <gigaherz> happens

L1189[15:23:15] <Curle> Try TheCatalystGamer|Gone

L1190[15:23:21] <unascribed> still probably the dumbest banmask I've ever seen, but oh well

L1191[15:23:30] <Deamon> that'll teach you to use an away nick ;)

L1192[15:23:31] <Curle> Wait, BANNED you?

L1193[15:23:36] <gigaherz> not exactly

L1194[15:23:38] <gigaherz> it blocks messaging

L1195[15:23:42] <unascribed> Deamon, I don't have awaynicks enabled, I used it as an indicator

L1196[15:23:42] <Curle> Wait, where did you come from?

L1197[15:23:43] <gigaherz> but IRC doens't have any code for that

L1198[15:23:51] <unascribed> gigaherz, no, it's a real +b. I couldn't change my nick until I left the channel

L1199[15:24:00] <gigaherz> only for you ;P

L1200[15:24:07] <Curle> Daemon, where did you come from? :P

L1201[15:24:11] <gigaherz> it's a pretend-ban

L1202[15:24:24] <gigaherz> it only happens for people with long nicknames

L1203[15:24:30] <unascribed> still, gotta love how the ban for a long nick prevents me from changing my nick to a shorter one

L1204[15:24:34] <Deamon> I've been idling here for the better part of a year <.<

L1205[15:24:36] <gigaherz> that has a purpose

L1206[15:24:45] <gigaherz> the same feature that blocks long nicknames

L1207[15:24:49] <gigaherz> also blocks changing the nickname

L1208[15:24:58] <gigaherz> often when you ban someone without kicking

L1209[15:25:02] <gigaherz> the person will feel insulted

L1210[15:25:06] <gigaherz> and do like /nick Ihateyou

L1211[15:25:06] <Soni> it's funny that it doesn't block changing /to/ a banned nick

L1212[15:25:14] <gigaherz> ./nick I'llkillyourfamily

L1213[15:25:16] <gigaherz> and shit like that

L1214[15:25:21] <unascribed> yes, I know why it's a feature of +b

L1215[15:25:29] <gigaherz> so to avoid that, +b blocks /nick

L1216[15:25:32] <unascribed> yes... i get that.

L1217[15:25:42] <unascribed> that doesn't change the fact that this particular channel has a banmask for long nicks

L1218[15:25:43] <gigaherz> so because the long-nick feature "misuses" the ban error code

L1219[15:25:53] <unascribed> anyway

L1220[15:25:58] <gigaherz> it's not a banmask, there's no mode that says "long nicknames"

L1221[15:26:03] <gigaherz> it's a feature of esper.net

L1222[15:26:12] <unascribed> then why was I not banned from the 10 other channels I'm in?

L1223[15:26:24] <gigaherz> because only this one has the chanmode for that

L1224[15:26:25] <Soni> it's ??????????* or something

L1225[15:26:27] <Curle> 10 channels?

L1226[15:26:44] <Curle> bit active, aren't you?

L1227[15:26:45] <Curle> :P

L1228[15:26:50] <Soni> * #minecraftforge: ???????????????*!*@* on Wed Oct 14 22:52:56 2015 by aperture.esper.net

L1229[15:26:53] <Curle> Whenever I do modding, I'm on here for chatting

L1230[15:26:55] <Soni> and it's actually a +q

L1231[15:27:00] <gigaherz> Soni: I don't see that in the list

L1232[15:27:04] <unascribed> the only major channel I'm in is #minecraftforge

L1233[15:27:07] <unascribed> all the other ones are small

L1234[15:27:08] <Soni> gigaherz, it's a quiet, not a ban

L1235[15:27:10] <unascribed> may as well be in 2 channels

L1236[15:27:12] <gigaherz> ah

L1237[15:27:24] <gigaherz> mirc only lists +bs

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L1239[15:27:31] <Soni> gigaherz, /mode #channel q

L1240[15:28:20] <Pennyw95> Hi...if one happens to run out of space on dynamic properties (the getActualState ones), is there a way to store them in tile entity although they're, well, dynamic?

L1241[15:28:25] <Soni> alternatively, /quote MODE #channel q, or /raw MODE #channel q (whatever command your client supports)

L1242[15:28:42] <gigaherz> nah that worked

L1243[15:28:50] <gigaherz> there's just no GUI for it

L1244[15:29:03] <gigaherz> Pennyw95: properties are meant for rendering

L1245[15:29:05] <unascribed> GUI? IRC?

L1246[15:29:16] <gigaherz> each combination of properties results in one distinct model

L1247[15:29:32] <Pennyw95> yes...since my multiblock is big I ran our of memory

L1248[15:29:44] <Pennyw95> I wanted to avoid using a tesr but shit happens

L1249[15:29:57] <gigaherz> if you have so many changing parts, you may want to use a TESR instead

L1250[15:30:04] <gigaherz> with a reduced list of properties

L1251[15:30:11] <gigaherz> using that many properties is inefficient

L1252[15:30:16] <gigaherz> since mc has to enumerate ALL of them

L1253[15:30:24] <gigaherz> and create a table with property->model

L1254[15:30:42] <Pennyw95> yeah I saw that in the console...crazy stuff

L1255[15:31:05] <Pennyw95> I guess a little tesr won't harm no one if I only use for some little walls

L1256[15:31:47] <Pennyw95> I assume the tessellator still exists in 1.8?

L1257[15:31:48] <Curle> The ReloadTextures shortcut is a godsend for modding :D

L1258[15:33:14] <gigaherz> yeah the TESR system is mostly untouched

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L1260[15:33:41] <gigaherz> it still draws the enchting book and such using TESR

L1261[15:33:53] <KittenTheEpic> Yesterday, when testing my mod, SWave, I got a wall of errors... let me replicate those again

L1262[15:34:20] <gigaherz> copy the log into pastebin/gist

L1263[15:34:33] <KittenTheEpic> k

L1264[15:34:35] <Curle> Kitten, you're being suave.

L1265[15:34:45] <KittenTheEpic> let me open up intellj and run the client/server again and, well, wall of error again!

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L1268[15:35:34] <Zaggy1024> there it goes crashing again

L1269[15:35:39] <Zaggy1024> so stupid

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L1271[15:36:43] <Curle> Is there any way to stop mobs spawning in a world altogether?

L1272[15:37:00] <Curle> The mobs in my flatgrass world are lagging me somehow :/

L1273[15:38:20] <Curle> Dear god, unascribed, your fix worked!

L1274[15:38:23] <Curle> for my tp item

L1275[15:38:33] <unascribed> ...what's my fix, again?

L1276[15:38:36] <unascribed> I had to drop my buffers

L1277[15:38:41] <unascribed> having like 5 conversations right now

L1278[15:38:45] <Curle> The only problem is, it makes a default portal shape not my custom one :P

L1279[15:38:56] <Curle> Adding the timeUntilPortal

L1280[15:40:15] <Curle> Now, just a matter of destroying the portal if the ring is destroyed

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L1282[15:40:39] <unascribed> timeUntilPortal wasn't my suggestion

L1283[15:40:47] <Curle> I believe it was

L1284[15:40:56] <unascribed> I just mentioned the vanilla portal was probably spawning

L1285[15:41:00] <Curle> Who's was it then? :/

L1286[15:41:12] <unascribed> someone else (I don't know who, since I dropped my buffers) suggested it

L1287[15:41:24] <Curle> WHOEVER TOLD ME TO ADD THE timeUntilPortal THING TO MY TELEPORTER, THANK YOU.

L1288[15:41:34] <Curle> \psa over

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L1290[15:42:01] <unascribed> looks like it was Zaggy

L1291[15:42:03] <unascribed> according to Korobi

L1292[15:42:17] <Curle> Who and who?

L1293[15:42:18] <Curle> xD

L1294[15:42:21] <unascribed> Korobi is a channel logging bot

L1295[15:42:33] <unascribed> Zaggy is Zaggy

L1296[15:42:37] <Curle> Right

L1297[15:42:44] <Curle> kthx zag :D

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L1299[15:44:06] <Curle> http://i.imgur.com/TyijNTQ.png

L1300[15:44:27] <Curle> Left is one I made, right is the one generated here. How do I change the generated one? :3

L1301[15:44:41] <unascribed> what?

L1302[15:44:44] <unascribed> the screenshot is of HExChat

L1303[15:44:50] <unascribed> HexChat*

L1304[15:44:52] <Curle> With the game in front of it

L1305[15:45:00] <unascribed> no, it's just hexchat..

L1306[15:45:03] <Curle> wat

L1307[15:45:20] <smbarbour> Can confirm. Just hexchat

L1308[15:45:34] <Curle> crap, something's up with my graphics card

L1309[15:45:42] <Curle> That explains the horrendous lag

L1310[15:45:47] <Curle> And the burning smell

L1311[15:45:51] <Curle> jk :3

L1312[15:46:01] <unascribed> k

L1313[15:46:02] <gigaherz> you may want to reboot ;P

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L1316[15:46:10] <smbarbour> "And that warm glow coming from under my desk"

L1317[15:46:13] <gigaherz> one thing Unity engine taught me

L1318[15:46:23] <gigaherz> "if something doesn't quite work, restart"

L1319[15:46:24] <gigaherz> ;P

L1320[15:46:34] <Curle> http://i.imgur.com/edBk9AE.png

L1321[15:46:36] <gigaherz> it's not always your fault.

L1322[15:46:40] <Curle> I just took 2 screenshots :3

L1323[15:46:55] <Curle> I sent the second accidentally

L1324[15:47:00] <gigaherz> lol+

L1325[15:47:02] <gigaherz> -+

L1326[15:47:07] <Curle> <Curle> Left is one I made, right is the one generated here. How do I change the generated one? :3

L1327[15:47:30] <unascribed> also, yes, there is a way to make mobs stop spawning

L1328[15:47:36] <unascribed> /gamerule doMobSpawning false

L1329[15:47:41] <Curle> You're on a roll today

L1330[15:47:47] <Curle> Oh, how did I miss this?

L1331[15:48:00] <Curle> That's going on my whiteboard XD

L1332[15:48:12] <unascribed> you can do /gamerule [tab] to see a list

L1333[15:48:13] <gigaherz> put that on your door

L1334[15:48:17] <unascribed> where [tab] is you hitting the tab key

L1335[15:48:18] <gigaherz> to avoid your boss from entering

L1336[15:48:19] <gigaherz> X

L1337[15:48:20] <gigaherz> XD

L1338[15:48:23] <Curle> The whiteboard is my door

L1339[15:48:40] <gigaherz> unascribed: lol at you feeling the need to explain that XD

L1340[15:48:41] <Curle> It's treated with a dry-wipe substance

L1341[15:48:46] <gigaherz> ah

L1342[15:48:53] <gigaherz> so whiteboardened door, nice

L1343[15:48:54] <unascribed> gigaherz, I've had people actually put the [tab] in

L1344[15:48:57] <gigaherz> XD

L1345[15:48:58] <gigaherz> yeah

L1346[15:49:01] <gigaherz> the old joke

L1347[15:49:14] <Curle> It's whiteboard one side, blackboard the other

L1348[15:49:15] <unascribed> and it wasn't a joke ;_;

L1349[15:49:18] <gigaherz> of a support person being asked "where is the 'any' key? I can't find it"

L1350[15:49:20] <Mimiru> "Wheres the 'any' key?"

L1351[15:49:25] <Curle> Ninja

L1352[15:49:26] <Curle> :d

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L1354[15:49:38] <Curle> Anyway, the question

L1355[15:49:49] <Curle> How do I change the generated portal to my custom one?

L1356[15:49:52] <gigaherz> unascribed: that's the joke, that it happened.

L1357[15:49:53] <gigaherz> XD

L1358[15:49:55] <unascribed> ;_;

L1359[15:50:39] <unascribed> is it possible to make an item equippable even if it's not ItemArmor?

L1360[15:50:43] <Curle> Yes

L1361[15:50:47] <Curle> Commands

L1362[15:50:49] <Curle> :3

L1363[15:50:51] <unascribed> >.>

L1364[15:51:02] <Curle> I know, modding-wise

L1365[15:51:07] <Curle> no idea, ask diesie

L1366[15:51:13] <unascribed> I asked the entire channel

L1367[15:51:14] <Curle> He's gone

L1368[15:51:23] <Curle> I answered, gg.

L1369[15:51:26] <unascribed> <.<

L1370[15:52:29] <Curle> Would it be in the teleporter code?

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L1372[15:52:38] <unascribed> probably

L1373[15:53:37] <Curle> Oh, crap.

L1374[15:53:48] <Curle> The badly named ints have come back to haunt me

L1375[15:53:55] <Curle> I need to redo these checks

L1376[15:54:12] <Curle> Can I not just use a setblock(world, x, y, z) for every block?

L1377[15:54:19] <Curle> That'd be like 70 lines less :P

L1378[15:54:24] <ThePsionic> Curle: I am extremely late but you can set the doMobSpawning gamerule to false

L1379[15:54:34] <ThePsionic> And then do /kill @e or something

L1380[15:54:44] <unascribed> do not try /kill @e in 1.7.10

L1381[15:54:44] <Curle> I've been told, it's on my door, thanks for helping.

L1382[15:54:46] <unascribed> it will just kill you

L1383[15:54:56] <ThePsionic> >1.7.10

L1384[15:54:57] <ThePsionic> pls

L1385[15:55:04] <Curle> That's what I'm on

L1386[15:55:11] <ThePsionic> pls

L1387[15:55:13] <Curle> It's SOO much easier than 1.8

L1388[15:55:20] <unascribed> it really isn't

L1389[15:55:21] <unascribed> but okay

L1390[15:55:23] <ThePsionic> have fun being stuck in the past

L1391[15:55:35] <Curle> For me, because I've been trying to learn it for about 3 years now

L1392[15:55:35] <unascribed> I should write that 1.8 clone mod at some point

L1393[15:55:37] <Curle> xD

L1394[15:56:12] <Curle> Just leaving 3 years behind, and going into a completely rewritten version is just dumb

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L1396[15:56:29] <Curle> I'm staying in 1.7 until I've mastered it, and then some.

L1397[15:56:31] <Curle> :3

L1398[15:56:35] <unascribed> it'd be an interesting challenge to reimplement a bunch of blocks and items from every mod either way

L1399[15:56:38] <Curle> At least, until the Jsons have left

L1400[15:56:44] <unascribed> Curle, the json is here to stay

L1401[15:56:47] <unascribed> and that's a good thing

L1402[15:56:48] <unascribed> and also

L1403[15:56:50] <Curle> For you

L1404[15:56:52] <unascribed> rewriting often is a good thing

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L1406[15:57:04] <unascribed> don't get attached to code

L1407[15:57:06] <Curle> Like I said, it's throwing 3 years into the garbage can

L1408[15:57:09] <unascribed> because it hates you with a burning passion

L1409[15:57:11] <Curle> I'd stay :3

L1410[15:57:19] <Zaggy1024> wow, so many NPEs

L1411[15:57:19] <Curle> Next topic!

L1412[15:57:30] <Zaggy1024> I made my IDE catch all NPEs on the client

L1413[15:57:30] <Curle> NullPointerExceptions?

L1414[15:57:34] <unascribed> asking again, is it possible to make an item equippable even if it's not ItemArmor?

L1415[15:57:44] <Zaggy1024> crash just happened and it got like 5 npes involving the player instance

L1416[15:57:53] <Zaggy1024> first one *was* a packet, though, interestingly

L1417[15:58:14] <Zaggy1024> but that one didn't cause a crash because it was caught and turned into a warning

L1418[15:58:38] <Zaggy1024> I also had a breakpoint on the setting of Minecraft.thePlayer, and that got hit before the NPEs started

L1419[15:58:45] <Zaggy1024> so...no idea why it's happening

L1420[15:58:59] <unascribed> did it get set to null?

L1421[16:00:48] <ThePsionic> Any good tutorials on dimensions?

L1422[16:01:15] <Curle> I got my code from Wuppy, I believe.

L1423[16:01:26] <Curle> Check some gihub repos

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L1426[16:03:49] <Curle> I've just compacted some vanilla code into like 7 lines (89 before)

L1427[16:03:59] <Curle> Needs some optimization on this stuff

L1428[16:04:28] <ThePsionic> i'm dying

L1429[16:06:08] <Curle> xD

L1430[16:06:16] <Curle> you need a chunkprovider

L1431[16:06:20] <Curle> A worldprovider

L1432[16:06:25] <Curle> A dimensionhandler

L1433[16:06:29] <Curle> initialize it

L1434[16:06:32] <Curle> register it

L1435[16:06:38] <Curle> GenLayer to make it load

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L1437[16:07:20] <Curle> Woah, my code worked!

L1438[16:07:40] <ThePsionic> Damn, even TGG doesn't have an example yet

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L1440[16:08:30] <Curle> The ... ?

L1441[16:09:16] <Curle> Have to go, kbai

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L1443[16:10:03] <ThePsionic> Curle|off: TheGreyGhost

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L1445[16:12:23] <gigaherz> finally, got enough EMC to make mayself a flying ring :D

L1446[16:12:27] <gigaherz> myself*

L1447[16:12:28] <gigaherz> wtf

L1448[16:12:44] <ThePsionic> hrm

L1449[16:12:54] <ThePsionic> can't find anything on the subject of dimensions

L1450[16:12:57] <gigaherz> now I can get mself a decent bow and go to the End to kill the dragon :D

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L1459[16:39:36] <Soni> how do I configure a .json with a configuration GUI?

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L1472[17:13:55] <smbarbour> The GUI should be completely independent of the storage format

L1473[17:15:12] <Soni> ok so how do I make a list of categories?

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L1475[17:15:31] <Soni> I don't remember Forge config GUIs having something like that...

L1476[17:16:57] <diesieben07> a forge config gui is bound to a Configuration file...

L1477[17:18:21] <Soni> :(

L1478[17:18:28] <Soni> so I have to write it all from scratch?

L1479[17:19:10] <diesieben07> no, just use a forge config

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L1481[17:20:27] <Soni> but mojang uses json

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L1483[17:20:56] <Soni> and I'd still need categories because using a list of strings for it would be ew

L1484[17:21:11] <Moony224> hi, does anyone know of a mod which bans people when they die for a certain period of time (like hardcore) for 1.7? sorry if wrong place

L1485[17:21:59] <diesieben07> i have no idea how "but mojang uses json" is an argument...

L1486[17:22:07] <diesieben07> json is not a good format for configuration files.

L1487[17:22:17] <diesieben07> and forge configs HAVE categories

L1488[17:22:28] <Soni> uhh

L1489[17:22:41] <Soni> https://github.com/eNByeX/NoteBetter/wiki/Format

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L1491[17:22:46] <Soni> can I do that with Forge configs?

L1492[17:23:19] <diesieben07> no

L1493[17:23:27] <Soni> then JSON is better for it

L1494[17:23:31] <diesieben07> and hence you cannot use Forge's config GUI for it either...

L1495[17:23:40] <diesieben07> forges config gui is not made for editing json

L1496[17:23:43] <Soni> (because there's no YAML parser in MC/Forge)

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L1498[17:24:14] <diesieben07> oh god yaml

L1499[17:24:32] <Soni> it's better than XML

L1500[17:24:42] <diesieben07> everything is better than xml

L1501[17:24:43] <fry> anything is better than XML

L1502[17:24:45] <fry> :P

L1503[17:24:53] <Soni> nope https://github.com/SoniEx2/MDXML

L1504[17:24:58] <JamEngulfer221> Hey, I like YAML

L1505[17:25:16] <JamEngulfer221> It reminds me of when I did Bukkit plugins

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L1507[17:26:42] <Soni> (it's supposed to make fun of XML and MD at the same time btw)

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L1512[18:01:10] <Moony224> what replaces connectionreceived from iconnectionhandler in 1.7?

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L1514[18:02:05] <diesieben07> Moony224, check out the classes in FMLNetworkEvent

L1515[18:02:51] <Moony224> diesieben07: hm, so i implement fmlnetworkevent?

L1516[18:03:05] <diesieben07> No

L1517[18:03:09] <diesieben07> you subscribe to the event

L1518[18:04:51] <Moony224> hm, thanks I think i get it

L1519[18:05:40] <diesieben07> google "forge event tutorial" if you don't :D

L1520[18:06:30] <Lex|Desktop> http://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php/topic,34955.0.html

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L1522[18:10:22] <Moony224> how can i get the username from the ServerConnectionFromClientEvent?

L1523[18:11:49] <diesieben07> ((NetHandlerPlayServer) event.handler).playerEntity

L1524[18:13:09] <Moony224> thanks!

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L1526[18:13:49] <Soni> how expensive are those obj models? O_o

L1527[18:14:16] <diesieben07> depends on the model. but with how i undersstand it, not any more expensive than any other model

L1528[18:14:20] <Lex|Desktop> Same price as normal ones with that many faces

L1529[18:14:21] <diesieben07> they are processed into the same format

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L1531[18:14:37] <Soni> so basically if you have a lot of them goodbye FPS?

L1532[18:14:46] <Lex|Desktop> nope

L1533[18:14:54] <Soni> oh?

L1534[18:14:55] <Lex|Desktop> as in theory this should be cached in the world chunk

L1535[18:15:04] <Lex|Desktop> so once the chunk is rendered it doesnt need to render again

L1536[18:15:04] <diesieben07> if you have a normal cube in it, it will be just as expensive as a normal MC block

L1537[18:15:29] <Soni> but I thought the LEGO blocks resource packs killed FPS? (and they're for 1.8+)

L1538[18:15:55] <gigaherz> well it's still drawn every single frame, cos that's how gpus work

L1539[18:15:56] <Lex|Desktop> obviously compared to rendering 6 faces

L1540[18:16:02] <gigaherz> but it doesn't need to compute the display lists / VBOs

L1541[18:16:05] <Lex|Desktop> rendering 600 will be more costly

L1542[18:16:25] <Lex|Desktop> but in modern age, people can support billions of verticies without issue

L1543[18:16:32] <Lex|Desktop> and if you DO have issues

L1544[18:16:45] <Lex|Desktop> then you can jsut change your resource pack

L1545[18:16:46] <gigaherz> Soni: it's a matter of Draw Calls vs Polygons (triangles/quads)

L1546[18:17:07] <gigaherz> if you have a million simple objects drawn one by one, it will be more costly than a single one with a million polygons

L1547[18:17:19] <gigaherz> so to avoid that Minecraft caches the world chunks in batches

L1548[18:17:21] <Soni> ok so if I make every block in the whole world use obj models it's gonna kill FPS?

L1549[18:17:25] <Lex|Desktop> Thats the entire point of 1.8's render changes

L1550[18:17:33] <gigaherz> again: depends on how MANY faces ithas

L1551[18:17:34] <Lex|Desktop> no it shouldnt

L1552[18:17:40] <fry> billions is a bit much for MC :P

L1553[18:17:45] <Lex|Desktop> its not as simple as 'obj kills fps'

L1554[18:18:01] <Soni> hmm how do the lego respacks kill FPS...

L1555[18:18:16] <Lex|Desktop> I'd need statistics on that not your hearsay

L1556[18:18:24] <fry> obj != complex model that kills fps

L1557[18:18:35] <Soni> I'm just saying what I was told

L1558[18:18:46] <gigaherz> Soni: look,

L1559[18:18:52] *** Soni was kicked by MineBot (Banned: And thats why I hate you, Hearsay is NOT a valid argument. (2h)))

L1560[18:19:02] <gigaherz> or not.

L1561[18:23:51] <GeoDoX> I don't know who that person was, but personally I think a ban wasn't justified. I think he was just trying to learn.

L1562[18:24:12] <fry> it's only a 2 hour ban :P

L1563[18:24:13] <GeoDoX> I understand it was 2h, but still.

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L1565[18:24:54] <diesieben07> the fact that you don't know who he is, means you cannot understand why it was justified ;)

L1566[18:25:21] <GeoDoX> Despite that though, you shouldn't punish someone for trying to learn.

L1567[18:25:48] <Ordinastie> yeah, I rarely agree with lex bans, but I can't really blame him for that one

L1568[18:26:12] <GeoDoX> Also, if there's justification only for the fact that I didn't know who they were (implying they did something in the past), why wasn't action taken for what they did in the past?

L1569[18:26:31] <diesieben07> he has been banned multiple times in the past

L1570[18:26:47] *** GeoDoX was kicked by MineBot (Banned: Not following the rules, bitching about bans that have nothing to do with you. (10)))

L1571[18:26:51] <Lex|Desktop> There we go ;)

L1572[18:26:57] <fry> hmm, 10? :P

L1573[18:27:00] <Ordinastie> 10?

L1574[18:27:00] <Lex|Desktop> 10 min

L1575[18:27:02] <Ordinastie> ah

L1576[18:27:04] <fry> heh

L1577[18:27:10] <Lex|Desktop> it doesnt support '10m' as a format

L1578[18:27:16] <fry> "just 10 of time"

L1579[18:27:32] <Ordinastie> time is relative anyway

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L1581[18:28:36] <Lex|Desktop> Anywho RB post made, time for fallout!

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L1583[18:28:41] <Lex|Desktop> and sammich

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L1585[18:28:56] <fry> look at #pahicraft :P

L1586[18:29:21] <Ordinastie> invite only :(

L1587[18:29:59] <fry> not you, sorry, needed to catch Lex before fallout consumed him completely :P

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L1590[18:38:00] <GeoDoX> Well that wasn't nice, but anyway.

L1591[18:38:13] <GeoDoX> Back to modding.

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L1599[19:20:44] <Cypher121> is there a way to check if block can be broken without a player object?

L1600[19:21:53] <diesieben07> no, since only the player data can determien IF the block can be broken

L1601[19:22:11] <diesieben07> it could be that a mod block can only be broken if you have a certain XP level

L1602[19:22:17] <diesieben07> to check that you must have a player

L1603[19:23:54] <Cypher121> damn

L1604[19:24:27] <diesieben07> why?

L1605[19:25:39] <GeoDoX> Is there any reason why anything else other than the player would need to know if it could be broken? I think there's only information stored in player that prevents blocks from being broken.

L1606[19:26:21] <diesieben07> well, i can imagine like block breaker machines

L1607[19:26:27] <GeoDoX> I can't think of any block that relies on itself or anything else other than the player

L1608[19:26:55] <diesieben07> uhh

L1609[19:26:55] <GeoDoX> Well, yeah, but why wouldn't a block be able to be broken?

L1610[19:27:05] <diesieben07> well many reasons...

L1611[19:27:14] <diesieben07> mod blocks can do anything ;)

L1612[19:27:36] <GeoDoX> I'm confused :P So i'm just trying to clear up my confusion

L1613[19:27:41] <GeoDoX> True

L1614[19:28:25] <Cypher121> sort of a mining well

L1615[19:28:37] <Cypher121> I can probably make a fake player

L1616[19:28:40] <diesieben07> yes

L1617[19:28:43] <diesieben07> forge has one

L1618[19:28:54] <Cypher121> any example of its usage?

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L1620[19:29:44] <diesieben07> FakePlayerFactory.get

L1621[19:29:57] <diesieben07> the concept of fake players really suck, but we cant do anything about it.

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L1623[19:30:39] <KittenTheEpic> Does anyone have a networking api for minecraft forge that makes networking as simple as one or two lines?

L1624[19:30:46] <unascribed> this again?

L1625[19:30:50] <unascribed> simpleimpl isn't that bad

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L1627[19:30:53] <diesieben07> indeed

L1628[19:30:58] <unascribed> and networking *isn't* as easy as one or two lines

L1629[19:31:00] <unascribed> it just isn't.

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L1631[19:31:03] <ThePsionic> hmmmm

L1632[19:31:04] <DrDisconsented> SNW is the closest you're going to get

L1633[19:31:14] <DrDisconsented> Its rather easy as well

L1634[19:31:15] <KittenTheEpic> I raged yesterday after getting a wall of errors

L1635[19:31:22] <ThePsionic> What is the proper way to dimension

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L1637[19:31:27] <unascribed> you got a wall of errors because you need to learn to code before you even touch forge

L1638[19:31:33] <diesieben07> i once tried to make a very nice api that would abstract sending packets into just calligna method

L1639[19:31:38] <diesieben07> it did not work well :D

L1640[19:31:38] <unascribed> sorry for being blunt but it's true

L1641[19:31:45] <diesieben07> he's gone btw

L1642[19:31:51] <unascribed> k

L1643[19:32:00] <gigaherz> you wasted your bluntness

L1644[19:32:01] <gigaherz> ;P

L1645[19:32:20] <gigaherz> [02:30] (KittenTheEpic): Does anyone have a networking api for minecraft forge that makes networking as simple as one or two lines?

L1646[19:32:23] <gigaherz> yeah, SimpleImpl ;P

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L1648[19:32:45] <Ordinastie> diesieben07, @Sync stuff would be nice 1-liner sort of api :)

L1649[19:32:53] <diesieben07> welll yeah

L1650[19:32:58] <diesieben07> but thats not really sending packets ;)

L1651[19:33:11] <gigaherz> Minecraft-RPC

L1652[19:33:14] <diesieben07> exactly

L1653[19:33:28] <diesieben07> but the problem with that is that you always need an extra arg

L1654[19:33:29] <diesieben07> the player

L1655[19:33:38] <diesieben07> but not when sending to server

L1656[19:33:43] <diesieben07> so its all ugly and bad

L1657[19:34:02] <diesieben07> and then return types... ugh, because you need futures when sending, but actual return types on the receiving end

L1658[19:34:12] <gigaherz> RPC.Context(player,()->{

L1659[19:34:14] <diesieben07> so you cannot have the same interface... it just doesnt work left and right

L1660[19:34:16] <gigaherz> rpc-aware code here

L1661[19:34:17] <gigaherz> });

L1662[19:34:22] <diesieben07> hmmm

L1663[19:34:23] <diesieben07> maybe

L1664[19:34:33] <diesieben07> maybe I'll bang my head agaisnt it a bit more tomorrow

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L1666[19:35:31] <diesieben07> that doesnt solve return types though

L1667[19:36:22] <gigaherz> futures?

L1668[19:36:42] <unascribed> you could use that horrifyingly huge CompleteableFuture class in J8 :P

L1669[19:36:53] <diesieben07> well yeah

L1670[19:37:13] <diesieben07> but the actual remote method does not have a future return type

L1671[19:37:25] <diesieben07> and there is no way to express this in java properly

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L1674[19:38:23] <unascribed> I'm sure someone who says "enterprise" every other word has found a way to represent this

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L1676[19:39:26] <diesieben07> yes, but not in a properly typesafe way

L1677[19:39:41] <Matthew> Lex, FWI the RB isn't showing as recomended on the files website

L1678[19:39:59] <diesieben07> because in java there is no way to make the connectino between String remoteMethod(); and Future<String> remoteMethod();

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L1682[19:51:18] <HassanS6000> Help: I'm using the Forge substitution methods for a snow block and ice block.

L1683[19:51:26] <HassanS6000> Snow block works fine, ice block throwing errors: http://pastebin.com/6wxE5nTT

L1684[19:51:32] <HassanS6000> IceBlock extends BlockIce

L1685[19:51:47] <HassanS6000> IceBlock: http://pastebin.com/x9Kb7fWD

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L1687[19:52:13] <HassanS6000> CommonProxy: http://pastebin.com/durv1X9G

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L1690[20:04:43] <digseraph> I grabbed the latest forge, but I have some methods that are not renamed, even though they are correct in MCP_Bot, and were fixed 9 months ago. Is there something else I have to do to update my mappings?

L1691[20:08:34] <Girafi> Change the mappings version in your build.gradle?

L1692[20:09:21] <Girafi> Keep in mind it will most likely break stuff if you have other mods in your dev enviroment with diffrent mappings than your mod.

L1693[20:10:30] <digseraph> Thanks, I will keep that in mind. I had forgotten Rule 1 before messaging here: "Google is your friend". *facepalm* I found the answer quickly once I did that.

L1694[20:10:54] <digseraph> I was using a mapping snapshot that was almost a year old....

L1695[20:11:33] <HassanS6000> Figured out the original error, I needed to replace the ItemBlock

L1696[20:11:46] <HassanS6000> But now snow and ice do not have textures

L1697[20:11:52] <HassanS6000> and they don't place

L1698[20:12:07] <Girafi> Yeah it's always a good idea to google stuff you're not sure about ^^

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L1701[20:15:56] <Ordinastie> !gm func_176198_a

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L1710[20:32:08] <HassanS6000> placeBlock in the ItemBlock is failing

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L1716[20:45:20] <HassanS6000> Okay, this makes no sense. All I want to do is replace snow and ice so they do not melt, and use the substitution alias system to avoid using ASM. I have replaced the ItemBlock and Block here: https://gist.github.com/hsyyid/ae6e14b6128f5aee27d8 but to no avail. Instead of replacing the snow and the ice, it appears that the ItemBlock does nothing when right clicked.

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L1718[20:46:16] <HassanS6000> Anybody have an idea as to what could be causing the issue? I forgot to mention the snow and ice blocks DO NOT have textures anymore. (They did when I just replaced the block, but of course that didn't work at all)

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L1725[21:06:39] <Zaggy1024> HassanS6000, why are you setting their unlocalized names to "minecraft:blah"?

L1726[21:06:48] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, ?

L1727[21:06:50] <Zaggy1024> unlocalized names aren't registry names

L1728[21:07:04] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, I am not doing anything with unlocalized names

L1729[21:07:07] <Zaggy1024> "new SnowBlock().setUnlocalizedName("minecraft:snow")"

L1730[21:07:11] <HassanS6000> Oh wait

L1731[21:07:12] <HassanS6000> Yes I am lol

L1732[21:07:36] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, one sec lemme try without it

L1733[21:07:46] <Zaggy1024> probalby won't help

L1734[21:08:01] <Zaggy1024> did you try just straight up printing something from onItemUse or whatever?

L1735[21:08:50] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, I put a breakpoint, and stepped through it. Found that a method checking if the blockstate could be replaced was returning false, and thus the whole thing was being cancelled

L1736[21:09:03] <Zaggy1024> then figure out why that was

L1737[21:09:31] <Zaggy1024> if you're talking about isReplaceable, then you must be using the wrong block position

L1738[21:10:15] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, all I'm doing is trying to replace snow, I didn't write any of the Item stuff or even any of the block stuff. I overrode one method

L1739[21:10:33] <HassanS6000> The Items are just new ItemBlocks

L1740[21:10:47] <Zaggy1024> hm

L1741[21:11:14] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, removing the part that set the unlocalized name just made their names tile.null.name

L1742[21:11:54] <Zaggy1024> you're supposed to set it to the unlocalized names of those blocks

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L1744[21:13:54] <Zaggy1024> have you checked that the block position it's checking whether it can place at is actually the right position in the world?

L1745[21:15:33] <HassanS6000> yep, block pos seems fine

L1746[21:15:40] <HassanS6000> The textures should be the same as snow should they not?

L1747[21:15:45] <Zaggy1024> it's the exact right block position?

L1748[21:15:47] <HassanS6000> Why would they be purple and black

L1749[21:15:51] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, yes

L1750[21:16:21] <Zaggy1024> magenta and black is the missing texture

L1751[21:16:39] <HassanS6000> Yea, that's what I meant :)

L1752[21:16:53] <Zaggy1024> you asked why

L1753[21:16:56] <Zaggy1024> I told you

L1754[21:16:59] <Zaggy1024> now I'm confused

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L1756[21:20:30] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, wha? You told me why? I don't see where you told me why

L1757[21:20:45] <Zaggy1024> magenta and black is the missing texture

L1758[21:20:52] <Zaggy1024> you must have a missing texture

L1759[21:21:44] <HassanS6000> No, it should be using the snow texture should it not?

L1760[21:22:36] <Zaggy1024> ...

L1761[21:22:55] <Zaggy1024> either you didn't define the texture, or you are pointing to a nonexistent texture

L1762[21:23:20] <Zaggy1024> either that, or it's a full block sized model with the missing texture, in which case it could be missing texture or missing model

L1763[21:23:30] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, why would I need to define the texture? I thought all I have to do is create the block and register it as a substitution along with the item.

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L1765[21:23:58] <HassanS6000> The texture error still doesn't even explain the reason as to why I cannot place them

L1766[21:24:02] <Zaggy1024> you probably have to register models for it as well, because you're giving the game a different block and item instance than it expects

L1767[21:24:11] <Zaggy1024> I know it doesn't.

L1768[21:24:20] <Zaggy1024> you asked why it was magenta and black, and I'm answering it for you.

L1769[21:24:56] <HassanS6000> Alright.

L1770[21:25:03] <HassanS6000> Ima look into this more tomorrow

L1771[21:25:07] <HassanS6000> Thanks for the help Zaggy1024 :)

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L1775[21:34:40] <gigaherz> HAH

L1776[21:34:50] <gigaherz> I mentioned it here some days ago

L1777[21:34:51] <gigaherz> http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/237875-colossal-chests

L1778[21:34:58] <gigaherz> and now I see it in curse

L1779[21:34:59] <gigaherz> XD

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L1784[21:50:06] <shadekiller666> thanks for the credit on the forum post for the obj loader Lex :P

L1785[21:52:24] <shadekiller666> that was sarcasm, in case anyone was wondering

L1786[21:59:17] <Ipsaeus> So new modder question, is there any way to get around and/or indirectly override the default LivingEntityBase movement methods on the player? I was thinking of listening to LivingUpdateEvent and doing movement code there, but it *appears* that the vanilla movement methods are called after the event ends... at least as far as I can tell through the obfuscation.

L1787[21:59:53] <shadekiller666> 1, setupDecompWorkspace

L1788[22:00:14] <Ipsaeus> Did, still doesn't help with things like parameter names and variable names.

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L1790[22:01:36] <shadekiller666> 2, if you're trying to keep the player from moving you could do some fanciness with ressetting the positionX/Y/Z and motionX/Y/Z stuff in a tick handler maybe

L1791[22:01:52] <shadekiller666> along with the prevPos and prevMotion versions of those

L1792[22:03:31] <Ipsaeus> Trying to recode flight. I'd be down for hardcoding changes to motion and position, but again if the vanilla methods are called after my event handler does its job, its going to at least mess with all of those values

L1793[22:04:25] <Ipsaeus> One thing I was considering was create an invisible entity the player is riding on so I can directly override the methods, but I think latency could cause major issues with that approach.

L1794[22:04:41] <shadekiller666> i have yet to find where minecraft actually translates the button presses into player controls, i've wanted to remap the camera pitch and yaw controls for a while now

L1795[22:05:21] <Ipsaeus> I've only found where it does the actual motion calculations :\

L1796[22:11:15] <williewillus> what happened to chunk.getBLockLightValue in 1.8? (or rather, what's the equivalent statement)

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L1800[22:28:57] <killjoy> shadekiller666, PlayerController

L1801[22:29:10] <shadekiller666> ok

L1802[22:29:15] <shadekiller666> ill take a look

L1803[22:29:16] <shadekiller666> thanks

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L1807[22:36:05] <Ordinastie> http://puu.sh/ljDYB.jpg \o/

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L1827[23:37:30] <Alexandria> *pokes cpw *

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L1830[23:49:49] <killjoy1> How am I supposed to use the tessellator, then draw a string?

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L1834[23:53:41] <killjoy1> nevermind.

L1835[23:53:43] <sham1> Jeez Ordinastie

L1836[23:54:04] <sham1> That's some colourful stuff

L1837[23:55:35] <Ordinastie> 5min of code, 1h of photoshop :x

L1838[23:56:15] <sham1> Ah graphics, they are the worst

L1839[23:56:43] <Ordinastie> the pain is that my doors have 3 textures : top, bottom and 1 for the sides

L1840[23:56:48] <Ordinastie> * 16 colors :x

L1841[23:57:05] <Ordinastie> + the items

L1842[23:58:52] <sham1> I see

L1843[23:59:45] <sham1> Seems annoying