OCLogs: 2015-11-03.log

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L1[00:00:33] <ZaggyMobile2> I can't remember if I ever actually tested if preInit vs init matters item models, but I think it does

L2[00:00:39] <ZaggyMobile2> Ah

L3[00:00:45] <ZaggyMobile2> There's my answer

L4[00:01:15] <MattDahEpic> ima make a documentation page right now

L5[00:02:50] <ZaggyMobile2> Nice

L6[00:04:35] <MattDahEpic> preinit pre texture loading, init is post but before reload correct?

L7[00:05:11] <ZaggyMobile2> Not sure

L8[00:05:22] <ZaggyMobile2> Having looked into that in a while

L9[00:05:38] <ZaggyMobile2> (Because i haven't needed to, thankfully)

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L11[00:09:47] <ZaggyMobile2> Maybe fry should make it warn you when registering item models to late

L12[00:11:29] <MattDahEpic> fryes pls

L13[00:14:02] <MattDahEpic> how do you do unordered lists in markup?

L14[00:14:23] <TehNut> * Thing

L15[00:15:21] <MattDahEpic> hmmm then the idea plugin doesnt support that

L16[00:15:57] <TehNut> Yeah Idea's plugin is bad

L17[00:16:20] <MattDahEpic> im putting down that common preinit actions are block/item gameregistry reg, oredict,textures and recipes

L18[00:16:35] <MattDahEpic> init: register worldgenerators and dimensions

L19[00:16:52] <MattDahEpic> and postinit: imc and overwriting other peoples stuff

L20[00:17:02] <TehNut> Use this one https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/7896?pr=idea

L21[00:18:31] <TehNut> Oh, what was the solution to your problem?

L22[00:19:00] <MattDahEpic> stupid problem thats why im making a docs page. registered textures in init instead of preinit

L23[00:19:21] <TehNut> Oh, so then I have a different problem

L24[00:19:22] <TehNut> *sigh*

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L27[00:39:52] <MattDahEpic> tomorrow when all the smart people are back ima have to ask when preinit, init and postinit occur in terms of like texture loads and mod loads

L28[00:40:00] <MattDahEpic> night all

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L46[01:48:52] <Zaggy1024> TehNut, you need help with models?

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L48[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20151103 mappings to Forge Maven.

L49[02:00:06] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20151103-1.8.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20151103" in build.gradle).

L50[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L112[05:02:06] <Wuppy> morning

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L114[05:02:26] <fry> o/

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L116[05:15:29] <Wuppy> oh noes.... there are free tickets to a festival I paid like 40 euros for :c

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L120[05:27:02] <sham1> \o

L121[05:31:15] <sham1> silence goes across the land

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L126[05:55:33] <xaero> all quiet on the western front

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L130[06:08:18] <sham1> Yes

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L142[06:30:08] <Poppy> I'm trying to stick List[classWhichExtendsItem] into List[Item], I know I can do List[classWhichExtendsItem.asInstanceOf[Item]], but can I do it on the other side somehow instead?

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L146[06:47:48] <sham1> I feel awesome

L147[06:52:57] <tterrag> Poppy: upcasts are implicit

L148[06:53:10] <tterrag> Item is wider than ItemSubclass

L149[06:53:25] <tterrag> you coulud even cast List<ItemSubclass> to List<Item>

L150[06:54:25] <fry> java generics are invariant, so List<Item> and List<ItemSubclass> are completely separate types

L151[06:54:55] <Poppy> you're right. I'm a liar, what I'm actually doing is trying to stick List[(subclass,Int)] into List[(superclass, Int)]

L152[06:55:06] <Poppy> that's when it started to complain

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L154[06:55:21] <fry> create List[(superclass, Int)] directly

L155[06:55:23] <McJty> tterrag, you can't

L156[06:55:42] <fry> or use a scala list before going into java land

L157[06:55:51] <McJty> tterrag, List<Item> books = (List<Item>) new ArrayList<ItemBook>();

L158[06:55:51] <McJty> gives an error

L159[06:56:06] <sham1> ItemStack does not cast to item nor does item cast to itemstack

L160[06:56:13] <Poppy> it's a scala list

L161[06:56:21] <McJty> ah scala

L162[06:56:25] <sham1> As neither is polymorpically related to other

L163[06:57:06] <sham1> Therefor: list [item] => list [itemstack] does not work

L164[06:57:10] <kwantakosta> Hi guys first time trying to mod here hoping to get some info or locations to get morge info, atm already created a block witch i can interact with but now i created method checking ig there is a chest next to the block. found that but now trying to figure out how to interact with that chest

L165[06:57:31] <fry> yup, Item and ItemStack are completely separate

L166[06:57:38] <sham1> IInventory for inventory interaction

L167[06:58:03] <kwantakosta> ok thx i'll give it a look

L168[06:58:39] <sham1> As chest's tile entity implements IInventory so you can cast it to that and interract

L169[06:58:52] <sham1> (Assuming you check if it is a chest)

L170[06:59:02] <sham1> Which I presume you d8

L171[06:59:30] <kwantakosta> yeah i'm cheking if it's a chest , probably not the most propper way but yeah learning all from bottom up :)

L172[06:59:49] <kwantakosta> worldIn.getBlockState(blockPose).getBlock().getUnlocalizedName().equals("tile.chest")

L173[06:59:57] <sham1> Do you check the tile entity?

L174[07:00:28] <Poppy> fry, what do you mean create directly. let me explain, my MyBlock class has a var drops: List[(Item, Chance)], in my block registry object I'm doing val myBlock = new MyBlock(Material.rock){drops = List((MyItemRegistry.myItem1, 50), (MyItemRegistry.myItem2, 20)}

L175[07:00:56] <sham1> Do this: worldin.getTileEntity (blockpos) instanceof IInventory

L176[07:01:02] <sham1> There

L177[07:01:08] <sham1> More generalized

L178[07:01:15] <kwantakosta> ok thx sham1

L179[07:01:18] <sham1> For all inventories

L180[07:01:26] <Poppy> *my MyBlock class has a var drops: List[(Item, Chance)] = List()

L181[07:02:00] <fry> what's the erroring part?

L182[07:02:03] <tterrag> McJty: maybe not explicitly

L183[07:02:06] <Poppy> I'm actually initialising it as an empty list, had issues trying to make the class abstract, probably cause I'm an idiot :D

L184[07:02:11] <tterrag> but a List<ItemSubclass> will pass to a method that requires List<item>

L185[07:02:27] <fry> tterrag: not true

L186[07:02:51] <tterrag> no I'm thinking backwards

L187[07:02:53] <fry> List<ItemSubclass> will pass to a method that requires List<? extends Item>

L188[07:03:03] <fry> but nobody writes methods like that :P

L189[07:03:28] <sham1> Don't say that, now someone will write like that to prove you wrong

L190[07:03:29] <tterrag> it's too early to be talking code

L191[07:03:42] <fry> 4pm? :P

L192[07:03:53] <fry> sham1: win-win for me :P

L193[07:03:59] <sham1> :p

L194[07:04:11] <tterrag> 8am here

L195[07:04:14] <sham1> 3 pm :D

L196[07:04:56] <fry> solar system is very inefficient for communicatins across the earth - everybody is sleeping all the time :P

L197[07:05:40] <sham1> Ye

L198[07:05:59] <sham1> I'd use universal greeting time but neh

L199[07:06:12] <Poppy> the erroring part is val myBlock = new MyBlock(Material.rock){drops = List((MyItemRegistry.myItem1, 50), (MyItemRegistry.myItem2, 20)}

L200[07:06:13] <Poppy> ^ Expecting List[(Item, Int)] getting List[(ItemSubClass, Int)]

L201[07:06:19] <Poppy> or at least I was

L202[07:06:26] <Poppy> up until a second ago

L203[07:06:41] <tterrag> upcasts *are* implicit, but not when talking about generic types

L204[07:06:44] <tterrag> that's my mistake

L205[07:06:56] <tterrag> because a List<ItemSubclass> cannot contain OtherItemSubclass

L206[07:07:12] <tterrag> so you cannot cast it up to a List<Item>

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L208[07:08:44] <gigaherz> because java doesn't really know what the real class is meant to be

L209[07:09:09] <Poppy> it's no longer throwing a hissy fit, no idea why

L210[07:09:31] <Poppy> I just deleted the .asInstanceOf[Item] to get the error again

L211[07:09:37] <Poppy> but it's working fine now

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L213[07:09:41] <Poppy> whaat

L214[07:10:27] <sham1> This is some weird shit we are dealing with here

L215[07:22:51] <kwantakosta> another small question i'm able to let the player drop an item but how can i make the block drop the item instead

L216[07:25:18] <kwantakosta> the block needts to interact with the chest (take item out) witch is working i get back the item stack and for now i could use the player to drop it but it would be logical if either the block drops it or puts it into the player inventory

L217[07:27:35] <kwantakosta> think i found it

L218[07:32:16] <Poppy> in for (i <- i to j), can I change j during the cycle?

L219[07:32:43] <Poppy> or more specifically, will changing the field have any bearing on the how the cycle runs?

L220[07:36:07] <kwantakosta> if this is the way to add items to the inventory of the player (playerIn.inventory.addItemStackToInventory(itemStack);) how do i update the inventory because it adds it but i have to open my inventory manualy or open a chest before it shows in the player inventory

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L223[07:38:56] <sham1> Well poppy, i to j creates a Range object, that is just a collection of numbers [i,i+1,i+2...j-2,j-1,j]

L224[07:39:01] <sham1> So

L225[07:39:05] <Poppy> no

L226[07:39:10] <sham1> Umn, yes it does

L227[07:39:36] <sham1> I do not remember if to had it be that the end-point was inclusive

L228[07:39:51] <Poppy> to is inclusive, until is exclusive

L229[07:40:27] <sham1> My point still stands

L230[07:40:44] <Poppy> only if the range object... wait a second of course it does

L231[07:40:47] <Poppy> okay

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L234[07:43:57] <Ordinastie> does anyone have issues when opening a SP world with missing mapping in 1.8 ?

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L242[08:13:12] <RobotSquid> guys what is the parameters for doRender(Entity, double, double, double, float, float) in RendererLivingEntity? I figured the first is the entity to be rendered and then x, y, z positions of something

L243[08:14:48] <Ivorius> First float should be partial ticks

L244[08:15:25] <Ivorius> x, y, z are of the entity in relation to the player - i.e. where you should draw

L245[08:15:33] <tterrag> last float is size likely

L246[08:15:40] <RobotSquid> thanks

L247[08:15:48] <RobotSquid> that makes sense

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L249[08:16:27] <RobotSquid> so if i have an entity, how would i get the xyz to player? also the partial ticks?

L250[08:16:40] <RobotSquid> entity xyz - player xyz?

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L252[08:17:48] <Ivorius> wat

L253[08:17:51] <Ivorius> No, just use the params

L254[08:17:56] <Ivorius> translate(x, y, z)

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L256[08:18:01] <Ivorius> model.draw()

L257[08:18:14] <Ivorius> And push/pop matrix ofc

L258[08:18:32] <RobotSquid> wuuuuuuttt?? nonono i need to call the doRender method, and only have an entity

L259[08:18:51] <RobotSquid> from outside the renderer

L260[08:18:59] <RobotSquid> (clientside mod)

L261[08:19:21] <Ivorius> Then you're fucked

L262[08:19:27] <RobotSquid> why?

L263[08:19:33] <Ivorius> You can't get partial ticks unless they're passed to you

L264[08:19:40] <tterrag> well you can

L265[08:19:43] <Ivorius> x, y, z are where you want it to draw

L266[08:19:43] <tterrag> just gotta be sneaky

L267[08:19:47] <Ivorius> No, you can't

L268[08:19:52] <tterrag> yes, you can :P

L269[08:19:55] <Ivorius> Blah blah

L270[08:19:59] <Ivorius> Hacks don't count

L271[08:20:05] * McJty watches this very interesting yes/no battle :-)

L272[08:20:05] <Ivorius> Don't teach bad code

L273[08:20:07] <RobotSquid> reflection?

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L275[08:20:15] <tterrag> I mean

L276[08:20:18] <tterrag> just reflect the timer

L277[08:20:21] <tterrag> it's not that big of a hack

L278[08:20:25] <tterrag> this is minecraft we're talking about

L279[08:20:31] <Ivorius> It defeats the purpose of a render environment

L280[08:20:39] <Ivorius> If he has just the entity

L281[08:20:42] <Ivorius> His context is bad already

L282[08:20:53] <Ivorius> But a symptom of his larger problem

L283[08:21:30] <RobotSquid> technically i dont care much about actual graphics, so i dont need the interval between the ticks, im only rendering it once to use the renderer to update the model, then grabbing the model eith reflection

L284[08:21:37] <tterrag> I only ever reflect the timer in my GUI

L285[08:21:54] <tterrag> because they don't pass the partial ticks to drawGuiContainerForegroundLayer

L286[08:21:56] <tterrag> even though it's there

L287[08:22:20] <RobotSquid> if theres a better way let me know

L288[08:22:32] <Ivorius> That sounds like a bad idea

L289[08:22:51] <RobotSquid> i need the model of the entity updated with current rotations etc.

L290[08:23:03] <Ivorius> You doing ragdoll physics or what

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L293[08:23:47] * RobotSquid is a noob trying to make a modcompatible version of MobDismemberment

L294[08:23:56] <Ivorius> Ah

L295[08:23:57] <Ivorius> So yes

L296[08:24:26] <Ivorius> I highly discourage mixing rendering and physics, especially in 1.8+

L297[08:24:40] <RobotSquid> why?

L298[08:24:42] <Ivorius> Rarely is the actual model 100% reflective of the represented object

L299[08:25:18] <Ivorius> Normally your physics ragdoll is a separate object that's a lot simpler than the actual rendered entity

L300[08:25:43] <RobotSquid> well where could i get that except the renderer?

L301[08:25:57] <Ivorius> Since none is provided, you'd have to build it up yourself :P

L302[08:26:02] <Ivorius> Eh, I guess that would be a bit much

L303[08:26:22] <Ivorius> Well, then you're in hax environments, congratulations :P

L304[08:26:57] <Ivorius> Then my tip for you would be

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L306[08:27:25] <Ivorius> 1) on entity dismemberment, cache the parts separated

L307[08:27:36] <Ivorius> 2) hook into rendering (e.g. RenderWorldLast)

L308[08:27:49] <RobotSquid> i thought i would run doRender, grab the model with reflection, split it into modelrenderers and then create a seperate entity for each one

L309[08:27:51] <Ivorius> 3) build up a completely new render context, render entity at 0, 0, 0 given the partial ticks

L310[08:28:02] <Ivorius> 4) spawn entities after render cycle

L311[08:28:25] <Ivorius> Oh, and restore render context after 3)

L312[08:28:29] <RobotSquid> i didnt understand most of what you said, but will try :P

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L314[08:28:53] <Ivorius> You might be able to 'just' render your entity once in logic without repercussions

L315[08:29:06] <Ivorius> But technically you should never touch OGL in the logic cycle

L316[08:29:15] <Ivorius> Weird bugs are the least you'll get

L317[08:29:50] <RobotSquid> 1) i need the model for the parts

L318[08:29:53] <RobotSquid> 2) wuuut

L319[08:29:58] <RobotSquid> 3) wuuut

L320[08:30:17] <RobotSquid> 4) i think i know what you mean

L321[08:30:41] <Ivorius> A simpler way to put it

L322[08:30:47] <Ivorius> 1) Make sure you're in a render context

L323[08:31:07] <Ivorius> 2) Render entity, but not in the normal world, but on a blank context

L324[08:31:11] <Ivorius> 3) Make sure you're in a logic context

L325[08:31:18] <Ivorius> 4) Spawn dismembered parts

L326[08:31:33] <Ivorius> But it's not all that simple to be that safe, and I can't really guide you beyond this :P

L327[08:31:34] <Ivorius> Good luck :P

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L330[08:32:52] <RobotSquid> thanks, will try to try

L331[08:35:31] <Poppy> sham1: the range is actually imutable

L332[08:35:42] <sham1> Well makes sense

L333[08:36:32] <Poppy> but it should generate a new one each loop

L334[08:37:08] <Poppy> no, wait, it does a forEach on the range

L335[08:38:27] <Poppy> that should mean it can't change during looping

L336[08:40:05] <Poppy> hmpf, this should actually look better in recursion anyway

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L338[08:54:18] <sham1> yay for recursion

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L358[09:35:57] <Poppy> if I want only certain of my subblocks to appear in the creative menu, I'm supposed to do it in getSubBlocks, right?

L359[09:36:57] <sham1> Indeed

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L363[09:40:40] <Unh0ly_Tigg> So, I decided to enable dsr on my graphics card, and the splash screen is so tiny, when the game thinks my screen is 2K instead of 1080p

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L366[09:41:43] <Unh0ly_Tigg> and the large gui scale is smaller than normal is on 1080p...

L367[09:43:49] <diesieben07> just watched a video on DSR

L368[09:43:54] <diesieben07> that looks stupid as fuck.

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L370[09:44:36] <fry> it's basically MSAA without the app support

L371[09:45:26] <diesieben07> and it sounds like it would take much more beefy hardware...

L372[09:45:50] <Poppy> I'd take much more beefy hardware

L373[09:45:53] <Unh0ly_Tigg> yeah, minecraft seems to freak out, I can't seem to get a world to actually load to the point where it's playable (modded)

L374[09:46:12] <Unh0ly_Tigg> I have an i5, 16GB of ram, and a gtx 750 ti.

L375[09:48:02] <Poppy> i5, 332 gigs, gtx 550 ti :D

L376[09:48:08] <Poppy> *32gigs

L377[09:48:41] <Poppy> ain't an i5 like an i5 though

L378[09:49:27] <diesieben07> that is very true

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L380[09:50:19] <Unh0ly_Tigg> granted, my i5 is a 4430, which is a low end 4th gen i5

L381[09:50:51] <Unh0ly_Tigg> does anyone know why the game thinks my mouse is defaulting to moving slowly down and to the right?

L382[09:51:10] <Unh0ly_Tigg> while in world*

L383[09:51:19] <Unh0ly_Tigg> when I'm in a menu, it's fine.

L384[09:53:37] <Unh0ly_Tigg> also, noclip seems to be enabled, and I can't change gamemode out of creative...

L385[09:53:54] <kwantakosta> any idea why i don't see anything in my inventory ?

L386[09:53:59] <kwantakosta> ItemStack fullItemStack = new ItemStack(new BlockSand(), 64);

L387[09:54:00] <kwantakosta> playerIn.inventory.addItemStackToInventory(fullItemStack);

L388[09:54:32] <Unh0ly_Tigg> kwantakosta, are you doing it on the logical server, or the logical client?

L389[09:55:08] <kwantakosta> good question on't know

L390[09:55:26] <kwantakosta> what schould give me the clue to see that ?

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L392[09:56:02] <kwantakosta> public boolean onBlockActivated(World worldIn, BlockPos pos, IBlockState state, EntityPlayer playerIn, EnumFacing side, float hitX, float hitY, float hitZ) {

L393[09:56:02] <kwantakosta>

L394[09:56:07] <kwantakosta> using this method from BLOCK

L395[09:56:41] <Unh0ly_Tigg> worldIn.isRemote is true when it's the logical client, you need to do it when worldIn.isRemote is false.

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L397[09:57:16] <kwantakosta> ok gonna have a look on that thx

L398[09:57:49] <Unh0ly_Tigg> also, FMLCommonHandler.instance().getEffectiveSide() for when you don't have a World object.

L399[09:58:08] <diesieben07> no, don't use that.

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L401[09:59:40] <Lumien> That returns based on the thread the code is running in right?

L402[09:59:46] <Unh0ly_Tigg> yes

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L404[09:59:54] <diesieben07> yes. but its not reliable, its slow, its ugly

L405[10:00:20] <Unh0ly_Tigg> it gets the thread name, and uses that to determine the return value.

L406[10:00:33] <Lumien> Works great for me :P

L407[10:00:40] <diesieben07> no, it doesn't.

L408[10:00:44] <Unh0ly_Tigg> I can see how that might be slow, but how is it not reliable?

L409[10:00:53] <diesieben07> it had to be patched lately, before that it was not always being correct

L410[10:01:00] <diesieben07> it's brittle

L411[10:01:06] <diesieben07> like anything that's detecting which thread it's running on

L412[10:01:15] <Unh0ly_Tigg> because of the netty io thread?

L413[10:01:20] <diesieben07> yes

L414[10:01:28] <kwantakosta> i placed the following in the method system.out.println(world.isRemote)

L415[10:01:41] <kwantakosta> this is the reply if i right click on the block

L416[10:01:44] <kwantakosta> [17:05:28] [Client thread/INFO] [STDOUT]: [org.kwantakosta.shopper.blocks.ExchangerBlock:onBlockActivated:60]: -----------------

L417[10:01:44] <kwantakosta> true

L418[10:01:45] <kwantakosta> [17:05:28] [Client thread/INFO] [STDOUT]: [org.kwantakosta.shopper.blocks.ExchangerBlock:onBlockActivated:62]: -----------------

L419[10:01:47] <kwantakosta> [17:05:28] [Server thread/INFO] [STDOUT]: [org.kwantakosta.shopper.blocks.ExchangerBlock:onBlockActivated:60]: -----------------

L420[10:01:49] <kwantakosta> false

L421[10:01:51] <kwantakosta> [17:05:28] [Server thread/INFO] [STDOUT]: [org.kwantakosta.shopper.blocks.ExchangerBlock:onBlockActivated:62]: -----------------

L422[10:02:56] <kwantakosta> an i run the client directly in intelij

L423[10:03:00] <kwantakosta> not the server

L424[10:03:25] <diesieben07> singleplayer = server with one player

L425[10:03:30] <diesieben07> there is always a server

L426[10:04:14] <kwantakosta> sorry diesieben07 thats what i mean :)

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L428[10:04:58] <diesieben07> so you are doing it on the server, yes?

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L430[10:06:36] <Zaggy1024> kwantakosta, I saw you say how you're checking if the block is a chest, comparing the unlocalized name of the block

L431[10:06:43] <Zaggy1024> that's a bad idea, you should compare the block instance

L432[10:07:11] <kwantakosta> this is the code up till now

L433[10:07:13] <kwantakosta> http://pastebin.com/BWYKwEkV

L434[10:07:43] <Zaggy1024> oh

L435[10:07:51] <kwantakosta> i'm still new to this sorry for my stupid questions probably

L436[10:07:52] <Zaggy1024> IInventory isn't just for chests, so you know

L437[10:07:55] <Zaggy1024> it's fine

L438[10:08:05] <Zaggy1024> IInventory is used for all kinds of blocks that store items

L439[10:08:12] <Zaggy1024> brewing stands, etc

L440[10:08:58] <kwantakosta> thx for the heads up i'll search for better sollution cuzz it would be only far any kind of chest

L441[10:09:26] <kwantakosta> but for now it's not a problem as i'm taking this step by step

L442[10:09:43] <Zaggy1024> you would want to do getBlockState(pos).getBlock() == Blocks.chest

L443[10:10:34] <Zaggy1024> that's usually what people do, unless there's some more general condition that will help with compatibility with other mods

L444[10:10:37] <kwantakosta> thx i'll adjust it right away

L445[10:10:50] <Zaggy1024> no hurry, it's your code :P

L446[10:11:41] <kwantakosta> yeah but only by applying things that are put here i'm able to gain more knowledge about forge modding :)

L447[10:14:32] <TehNut> Zaggy1024: (replying from a while ago) Yeah, trying to not need 3 JSON's for basic blocks

L448[10:14:41] <Poppy> funny story, onBlockDestroyedByPlayer doesn't actually handle you the player

L449[10:15:00] <Zaggy1024> oh

L450[10:15:11] <Zaggy1024> TehNut, what do you have?

L451[10:15:33] <blood|work> Poppy: use Sponge, you can just listen to ChangeBlockEvent.Break :P

L452[10:15:41] <blood|work> and it will cover every single break in the game

L453[10:15:44] <TehNut> https://gist.github.com/TehNut/335c967ba7b5a45b3892

L454[10:15:45] <blood|work> any mod etc

L455[10:15:56] <blood|work> the internal tracking is complete dog shit

L456[10:16:06] <TehNut> It works currently because I register a separate model location for each one

L457[10:16:14] <TehNut> And have the models/block and models/item for each

L458[10:16:16] <Poppy> that is true however I'm hesitant about getting a new lib

L459[10:16:21] <Poppy> just for that one little thing

L460[10:16:23] <TehNut> But there has to be a way to not need that...

L461[10:16:24] <blood|work> it's not a lib, Sponge is a coremod

L462[10:16:31] <blood|work> and adds an entire API

L463[10:16:33] <Poppy> even better

L464[10:16:47] <blood|work> think of bukkit, that is what Sponge provides

L465[10:17:03] <blood|work> Thaumcraft couldnt break a single block with my tracking

L466[10:17:09] <Zaggy1024> TehNut, why are you mapping the properties to an integer?

L467[10:17:36] <Poppy> yeah, thank you, but no thank you, I'll override harvestBlock instead

L468[10:17:37] <TehNut> I thought I had to for meta?

L469[10:17:50] <Poppy> actually

L470[10:17:53] <Zaggy1024> you can use a PropertyEnum or anything else that lets you name it

L471[10:17:58] <Lumien> What about removedByPlayer Poppy?

L472[10:18:05] <blood|work> that wont do a thing Poppy, a block can be destroyed by a player in so many ways

L473[10:18:39] <kwantakosta> Zaggy1024 don't know if you looked further in code to see what i did wrong and why it's not putting the item stack in inventory ? Btw no hurry just a question if you have the time to look into it

L474[10:18:42] <Poppy> Lumien: neat, ty

L475[10:19:23] <Poppy> you're right though, I should probably special case explosions

L476[10:19:27] <Poppy> as well

L477[10:20:16] <Zaggy1024> kwantakosta, does addStackToInventory return boolean?

L478[10:20:25] <Zaggy1024> if so, you should see what it returns

L479[10:20:35] <kwantakosta> i'll have a look

L480[10:20:40] <blood|work> what about redstone ? player uses some item that breaks blocks onItemUse ? some block placed by a player breaks other blocks (BC Quarry) ? etc.

L481[10:20:47] <blood|work> i can go on and on =)

L482[10:20:49] <TehNut> What would the difference be between having names and an int

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L484[10:20:58] <Zaggy1024> just good practice

L485[10:21:01] <TehNut> In the end, the blockstate would work the same...

L486[10:21:16] <Zaggy1024> you don't have to change it now, but it's good to have helpful names for people to work with

L487[10:21:25] <Zaggy1024> think of the poor starving resource pack artists :P

L488[10:21:35] <Zaggy1024> plus it makes the debug screen not useless

L489[10:21:49] <Lumien> blood they will use a fake player and properly break it :P

L490[10:22:03] <blood|work> lol

L491[10:22:07] <Zaggy1024> anyway, nut, what does it actually do in-game?

L492[10:22:08] <blood|work> good luck passing a fakeplayer with redstone

L493[10:22:23] <Lumien> "With redstone" ?

L494[10:22:32] <TehNut> Block renders in world. Missing texture in hand and inventory

L495[10:22:32] <Lumien> oh

L496[10:22:45] <Lumien> Well yeah it would be a fake player

L497[10:22:50] <Lumien> and not the real one

L498[10:23:05] <blood|work> fakeplayer is garbage and it will probably be removed if i get my changes into Forge

L499[10:23:06] <blood|work> completely

L500[10:23:13] <blood|work> mods wont even need to fire a blockbreakevent

L501[10:23:23] <blood|work> just as they dont need to fire a place event

L502[10:23:37] <Zaggy1024> TehNut, what does the log say?

L503[10:23:47] <kwantakosta> it returns a false so it's not allowed ...

L504[10:24:44] <blood|work> I gave up on relying on mods to do the "proper" thing =)

L505[10:24:52] <blood|work> now I handle it all internally

L506[10:25:06] <Zaggy1024> kwantakosta, your inventory is empty when you try to do it, right?

L507[10:25:18] <kwantakosta> don't know why , before i took this step i used the same method to put the stack that i took out of the chest in my inventory and it work (i had to open my inventory or the chest to update)

L508[10:25:32] <TehNut> Unable to resolve texture due to upward reference: #all in minecraft:models/block/cube_all

L509[10:25:39] <Zaggy1024> oh

L510[10:25:40] <Zaggy1024> lol

L511[10:25:49] <TehNut> whaddid i do

L512[10:25:50] <Zaggy1024> you didn't define your texture in your #inventory

L513[10:25:51] <kwantakosta> yeah empty

L514[10:26:04] <TehNut> oic

L515[10:26:10] <TehNut> How do I do that based on state?

L516[10:26:17] <Zaggy1024> can't

L517[10:26:20] <TehNut> ...

L518[10:26:25] <Lumien> blood i'm still not sure how you are going to get the player "causing" something out of for example an entity

L519[10:26:34] <Zaggy1024> you have to remap it to locations using ModelLoader.setCustomblahwhatever

L520[10:26:35] <Lumien> Without the mod implementing it

L521[10:26:49] <blood|work> Lumien: go test Sponge, and see for yourself

L522[10:26:53] <TehNut> Yeah so basically the Forge Blockstate stuff is useless for meta blocks...

L523[10:26:53] <TehNut> gotcha

L524[10:26:55] <blood|work> Entities are tracked

L525[10:27:04] <Zaggy1024> no

L526[10:27:19] <blood|work> if a player causes an entity to spawn, the entity has the player uuid stored in it

L527[10:27:30] <blood|work> so if a player spawned entity causes other entities to spawn, it will always be tracked

L528[10:27:36] <Zaggy1024> you can actually map it to something like #meta=0,inventory=true

L529[10:27:38] <blood|work> like a Ghast shoots a fireball

L530[10:27:59] <blood|work> player caused Ghast to spawn so the fireball gets tagged with the player

L531[10:28:04] <Zaggy1024> although then you have to have that property in your block as well, or you'll have to register a state mapper to make it add inventory=false without the property to go with it

L532[10:28:24] <Lumien> So i call World.spawnEntityInWorld and you go up the stack to try and figure out from where it's coming from?

L533[10:28:29] <Zaggy1024> it's easier to use setCustomblahwhatever to make it point to models/items/something.json

L534[10:28:30] <blood|work> of course not

L535[10:28:41] <blood|work> give me an example and ill tell you what happens

L536[10:28:46] <TehNut> So exactly what I don't want to do...

L537[10:28:47] <TehNut> *sigh*

L538[10:28:56] <Zaggy1024> well then do the other suggestion I gave you

L539[10:29:12] <Zaggy1024> complicated, but it should work

L540[10:29:12] <Lumien> In Blood Magic there are rituals

L541[10:29:17] <Lumien> That can break blocks

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L543[10:29:23] <blood|work> rituals are what exactly?

L544[10:29:23] <Ordinastie> so apparently, there is not tranformType for in world items :s

L545[10:29:24] <blood|work> entities?

L546[10:29:42] <Lumien> They have a "ritual core" which is a block

L547[10:29:47] <Lumien> they are multi blocks

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L550[10:30:16] <kwantakosta> Zaggy1024 the define texture was that a message for me ?

L551[10:30:41] <Zaggy1024> TehNut, you have to remember that all the property -> values lists in forge blockstates jsons are permutated to "blah=blah,blah2=blah3"

L552[10:30:44] <blood|work> sec

L553[10:31:01] <blood|work> ok so would you place this "ritual core" block ?

L554[10:31:01] <Zaggy1024> so it's not really made for item models with variants

L555[10:31:03] <blood|work> you the player

L556[10:31:15] <Zaggy1024> kwantakosta, no, sorry, was talking to TehNut

L557[10:31:22] <Lumien> yes

L558[10:31:23] <kwantakosta> no prob

L559[10:31:25] <kwantakosta> :)

L560[10:31:37] <blood|work> k well all block positions in any given chunk are tracked

L561[10:31:58] <blood|work> so the moment you place that block, your uuid is generated in our sponge_level.dat file and an index of the uuid is stored in the block position within the chunk

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L563[10:32:10] <blood|work> block pos gets serialized as a short

L564[10:32:42] <Lumien> The player has to right click on the stone with a specific item to activate it

L565[10:32:50] <Lumien> So that determines the "owner" of the ritual

L566[10:33:27] <blood|work> all blocks notified by a player are tracked

L567[10:33:35] <blood|work> seperate from the original owner

L568[10:33:57] <kwantakosta> gonna debug and see why i get a return false

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L570[10:34:23] <Zaggy1024> oh waitt

L571[10:34:25] <Zaggy1024> I'm blind

L572[10:34:27] <Lumien> So when i right click a block i get added to a list of players that "used" that block?

L573[10:34:31] <Zaggy1024> kwantakosta, don't do new BlockSand()

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L575[10:34:35] <Zaggy1024> do Blocks.sand

L576[10:34:36] <blood|work> not list, you become the last notified user

L577[10:34:43] <blood|work> there are 2 things tracked per block pos

L578[10:34:47] <blood|work> owner/notifier

L579[10:34:48] <Zaggy1024> Blocks and items are singletons, you only make them when the game is initializing

L580[10:35:20] <kwantakosta> omg thx Zaggy1024 i just noticed it aswell ... stupid mistake

L581[10:35:23] <kwantakosta> thx

L582[10:35:28] <Zaggy1024> np

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L584[10:36:50] <Mierzen> Hi! How can I get how long an *item* will smelt for in a furnace? It seems TileEntityFurnace.getItemBurnTime() returns the amount of time a fuel item will provide fuel

L585[10:37:39] <Poppy> burn time is always the same

L586[10:37:45] <TehNut> ^

L587[10:37:59] <blood|work> notifier support isnt in sponge yet, it will be when i finish testing redstone

L588[10:38:03] <Poppy> well, smelt time

L589[10:38:08] <blood|work> so atm, it only tracks owner of placed blocks

L590[10:38:09] <Poppy> burn time is different

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L592[10:39:04] <Mierzen> Should I just pass the itemstack as is to getItemBurnTime. Say I want how long it will take for a raw chicken to cook, I pass raw chicken's itemstack?

L593[10:39:17] <kwantakosta> that worked

L594[10:39:30] <kwantakosta> on to the next issue to solve

L595[10:39:35] <kwantakosta> :)

L596[10:39:55] <Lumien> Mierzen 200 ticks

L597[10:40:01] <Lumien> Every item takes that long to smelt

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L599[10:40:47] <Mierzen> Oh I haven't realised. But now I'm with you all. Every item takes 200 ticks to smelt, but different fuels can provide different burn times

L600[10:41:21] <Lumien> TileEntityFurnace.getItemBurnTime

L601[10:41:40] <kwantakosta> i get all the items in return but the first stack shows up in my inventory no problem, the other stacks don't until i open the chest than it shows all the stacks that i got instantly

L602[10:42:22] <Pennyw95> I can make "gradlew build" compile mymod instead of Forge's example mod? My mod's project is in a separate folder...I tried to replace Forge's src with mine but that didn't work

L603[10:42:28] <Pennyw95> how can I*

L604[10:42:39] <kwantakosta> and the boolean returned true for each stack so it looks like its a refresh issue or something along those lines

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L606[10:43:14] <Mierzen> Thanks Lumien

L607[10:43:28] <kwantakosta> Pennyw95 i think you have to change it in the build.gradle file

L608[10:43:46] <Zaggy1024> hm, it may not be realizing that the inventory has changed to send a packet about the new stacks

L609[10:44:03] <Lumien> try ServerConfigurationManager.syncPlayerInventory

L610[10:44:17] <kwantakosta> i'l try lumien

L611[10:45:43] <Pennyw95> I can't find anything about the source files to compile inside build.gradle :(

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L613[10:46:26] <kwantakosta> lumien thats not a static method

L614[10:46:34] <Lumien> No it's not

L615[10:46:50] <Lumien> MinecraftServer.getServer.getConfigurationManager()

L616[10:47:29] <kwantakosta> thx

L617[10:48:04] <Mierzen> How can I make a vanilla furnace work with a heat source underneath? Is there a beginner-friendly way of doing it?

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L619[10:49:45] <Zaggy1024> er

L620[10:50:00] <Zaggy1024> you mean make a heat source underneath make the furnace burn?

L621[10:50:17] <TTFTCUTS> https://github.com/Vazkii/Botania/blob/master/src%2Fmain%2Fjava%2Fvazkii%2Fbotania%2Fcommon%2Fblock%2Fsubtile%2Ffunctional%2FSubTileExoflame.java#L56

L622[10:50:22] <TTFTCUTS> there's an example of it being done

L623[10:50:36] <Zaggy1024> can't do that without an AT

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L625[10:51:01] <Zaggy1024> the easiest way would be to register a dummy item that doesn't show up anywhere and give it a very short burn time

L626[10:51:04] <Lumien> Zaggy reflection

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L628[10:51:05] <kwantakosta> Thx O mighty Lumien that solved it :)

L629[10:51:17] <Zaggy1024> well...reflection isn't for beginners, but I guess...

L630[10:51:18] <Zaggy1024> :P

L631[10:51:29] <Mierzen> I'm refering to that piece of code as we speak. I have made a testing item. When I right click the item on a furnace, it makes it smelt. Now I need to make it so that a furnace can burn automatically if it has lava underneath

L632[10:51:56] <Zaggy1024> oh, lava...

L633[10:52:11] <Zaggy1024> that's more difficult, since it's not your own block

L634[10:52:17] <TTFTCUTS> Zaggy1024, that stuff looks public to me...

L635[10:52:24] <Zaggy1024> what stuff?

L636[10:52:30] <TTFTCUTS> the furnace burn time etc

L637[10:52:34] <Zaggy1024> what version?

L638[10:52:43] <TTFTCUTS> oh, that's fair. 1.7.10

L639[10:52:45] <Mierzen> burn time works, ive done it

L640[10:52:51] <Zaggy1024> in 1.8 all TEFurnace fields are private

L641[10:53:13] <Mierzen> Well i guess i should have mentioned that im using 1.7.10

L642[10:53:23] <TTFTCUTS> \o/

L643[10:53:30] <TTFTCUTS> assumption vindicated

L644[10:54:29] <Lumien> Mierzen not sure you can do the lava thing without a custom furnace or some class transformation

L645[10:54:44] <Mierzen> Here is what I've done at this moment. http://pastebin.com/K8ZkLT88 On item right click

L646[10:54:50] <TTFTCUTS> hm

L647[10:54:57] <TTFTCUTS> that's not easy because you don't control either entity

L648[10:55:15] <TTFTCUTS> er, either block, or the furnace TE

L649[10:55:16] <TTFTCUTS> that is

L650[10:55:18] <Mierzen> Ive fiddled around trying the lava thing, but couldnt get it working with the first tries, so i tried an item to first get the main idea working

L651[10:56:23] <Mierzen> Now that the main idea of what im trying to do works, i want to switch it over to using lava. I can google for examples of transformation, I guess that will point me in the right direction?

L652[10:56:45] <Lumien> In theory you could go through World.tickableTileEntities to search for furnaces

L653[10:56:58] <Zaggy1024> the only two ways I can think of are to replace the vanilla lava block and make it tick (which probably wouldn't end well, liquids are weird), or make a tick handler and check the world for lava below a furnace (whihc would be very slow, bad for performance)

L654[10:57:12] <Zaggy1024> oh, that's a good idea, lumien

L655[10:57:14] <Zaggy1024> didn't think of that

L656[10:57:36] <tterrag|away> inefficient though

L657[10:58:00] <Mierzen> Im dont mind looking into transformation. That's how you learn... I've just never done it before

L658[10:58:32] <Zaggy1024> tterrag, how is that inefficient except in the most industrialized of worlds?

L659[10:58:54] <Zaggy1024> it's much better than iterating all block positions, and much cleaner than replacing the lava or furnace blocks

L660[10:59:04] <Lumien> (ASM is always clean)

L661[10:59:12] <Lumien> You could also maybe spawn an entity or something when a player places a furnace

L662[10:59:31] <Zaggy1024> heh, ASM is only clean if you know how to do it properly

L663[11:00:00] <Zaggy1024> stupid people just outright replacing vanilla classes with ASM

L664[11:00:03] <TTFTCUTS> a shame there's no reference to the TE involved for fuel handlers

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L666[11:00:14] <TTFTCUTS> otherwise you could work out if an item has lava under it

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L668[11:00:42] <Zaggy1024> that would only help if the furnace always had something in it

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L670[11:01:01] <Zaggy1024> ...I think

L671[11:01:02] <Mierzen> I planned on adding code to the furnace which checks if there is lava under, then fuel the furnace. But I couldnt get the code "added" to the furnace

L672[11:01:03] <TTFTCUTS> well for that you have an item which you use as fuel, has itself as a container item, and has burn time based on the lava under it

L673[11:01:14] <TTFTCUTS> which would be a workable compromise if that way was viable

L674[11:01:14] <Zaggy1024> haven't looked at a fuel handler for a while

L675[11:01:34] <Zaggy1024> Mierzen, you can't directly add to vanilla classes

L676[11:01:44] <TTFTCUTS> yeah, it just takes the itemstack as input Zaggy1024, nothing else :/

L677[11:02:06] <Zaggy1024> only way is ASM, which is VERY advanced, and not recommended at all :P

L678[11:02:18] <Zaggy1024> (to add to vanilla classes I mean)(

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L680[11:02:22] <Mierzen> Well I guess I can take a short-cut. Make a custom furnacw ith crafting recipe vanilla furn = custom. Then just add that piece of code?

L681[11:02:33] <Zaggy1024> that's one way

L682[11:02:48] <TTFTCUTS> that would be the easiest codewise

L683[11:02:54] <Zaggy1024> yup

L684[11:03:03] <Mierzen> I was typing that right now as well

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L686[11:03:09] <Pennyw95> Inside build.gradle, is it processResources {} that dictates where gradlew should pick the source files to compile?

L687[11:03:41] <Mierzen> Then I extend TileEntityFurnace and override updateEntity?

L688[11:04:10] <alex_6611> pennyw95 you should probably ask that in #ForgeGradle :D

L689[11:04:12] <Zaggy1024> yeh

L690[11:04:31] <Pennyw95> oh, thanks :)

L691[11:05:01] <Zaggy1024> well, or since you have to create a Block to go with that, you could use onNeighborBlockChange to change a field in your TE to make it keep burning

L692[11:05:03] <TTFTCUTS> yup Mierzen

L693[11:05:22] <Zaggy1024> that would be a little more unreliable in edge cases, probably, but it would be much more efficient

L694[11:05:37] <Zaggy1024> but for a TE that isn't going to be very common in the world I guess that doesn't matter

L695[11:05:45] <Zaggy1024> just an option :P

L696[11:05:59] <TTFTCUTS> wouldn't be too bad really, checking down isn't ever going to cause other chunks to load anyway

L697[11:06:09] <TTFTCUTS> which would be the worst part of checking blocks

L698[11:06:21] <Mierzen> So that would be ok?

L699[11:06:26] <TTFTCUTS> yeah

L700[11:06:45] <Mierzen> Ok, thanks. I'm going to try that then

L701[11:07:08] <Zaggy1024> ugh, I should probably go through and clean up any orphaned chunks I may be causing

L702[11:07:15] <Zaggy1024> I wasn't aware that was a big problem until now

L703[11:07:26] <TTFTCUTS> you could also have a value in the TE which counts down until the next check so it isn't looking every single tick if there's no lava there

L704[11:07:53] <TTFTCUTS> but really with the number of these things expected, it's not really necessary

L705[11:09:18] <Mierzen> TTFTCUTS, thank's I will add a timer thing when I get the lava working

L706[11:09:57] <Mierzen> Is it allowed that I use the vanilla furnace as texture of the custome one? Well, actually that might be a little stupid to do, then the player won't know if he's using a vanilla or custom one

L707[11:10:27] <Lumien> Maybe it would be more logical to make a block the player has to place below a furnace?

L708[11:11:37] <Poppy> what is called when a block is destroyed by explosion? I see a function where I can special case it for myself, but it's already dropping its drops as if properly harvest with a fortune 0 tool, so I'm wondering where that happens

L709[11:12:30] <TTFTCUTS> the explosion deals with that stuff Poppy

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L711[11:12:40] <TTFTCUTS> and there's an event that can be listened for to interfere with it

L712[11:12:58] <Mierzen> Lumien, then that block checks if there is a furnace above, if so, set the burnTime. I would like to use lava as-is, but I like your idea actually. It sounds more logical

L713[11:13:01] <Zaggy1024> doesn't Block have a callback for that?

L714[11:13:11] <Lumien> breakBlock still gets called i believe

L715[11:13:13] <TTFTCUTS> maybe actually :x

L716[11:13:24] <Zaggy1024> breakblock doesn't drop anythign

L717[11:13:37] <Lumien> ?

L718[11:13:51] <Lumien> It's used in blocks like chests to drop stuff when broken

L719[11:14:24] <Poppy> yeah, that's exactly what it does

L720[11:14:43] <tterrag|away> There is a destroyed by explosion method is there not?

L721[11:14:46] <Poppy> if (hasTileEntity(p_149749_6_) && !(this instanceof BlockContainer)) p_149749_1_.removeTileEntity(p_149749_2_, p_149749_3_, p_149749_4_);

L722[11:14:56] <Poppy> there is, but it's empty

L723[11:15:04] <tterrag|away> and?

L724[11:15:44] <Poppy> and that is what I'm planing on overriding, but even now, when destroyed by an explosion my block drops its drops

L725[11:15:49] <Poppy> so I'm wondering where that happens

L726[11:15:55] <Lumien> Poppy Explosion.doExplosionB

L727[11:16:22] <Poppy> huh

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L729[11:17:08] <Poppy> you'd think it'd be done on the block side. Okay, what I actually really want to know, if I override that method, will it take over what Explosoin.doExplosionB does?

L730[11:17:28] <tterrag|away> It is done on the block side, with getDrops

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L733[11:18:38] <Poppy> imma take a look at the function, there has to be some flag it checks...

L734[11:18:46] <Lumien> What do you actually want?

L735[11:19:40] <Mierzen> Should I extend BlockFurnace or TileEntityFurnace?

L736[11:19:57] <Lumien> For the block below ?

L737[11:19:59] <Poppy> Lumien: drop stuff on explosion my own way

L738[11:20:05] <Mierzen> Yes Lumien

L739[11:20:09] <Lumien> neither

L740[11:20:17] <Mierzen> BlockContainer?

L741[11:20:19] <Poppy> it checks for canDropFromExplosion, neat

L742[11:20:47] <Lumien> With your block yes

L743[11:21:08] <Poppy> neat, flag that, drop my own shit from onBlockDestroyedByExplosion, done

L744[11:21:09] <Poppy> thank you

L745[11:21:20] <ZaggyMobile2> You need to extend the te definitely

L746[11:21:33] <ZaggyMobile2> Not necessarily the block

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L748[11:21:47] <Mierzen> As is done in this tutorial? http://bedrockminer.jimdo.com/modding-tutorials/advanced-modding/tile-entities/

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L751[11:22:34] <ZaggyMobile2> Heh lol

L752[11:22:58] <Lumien> Mier override hasTileEntity and createTileEntity in your block

L753[11:23:06] <ZaggyMobile2> Yeah

L754[11:23:35] <Mierzen> As you can see, I haven't really done that before. I will look for examples, using that, thanks

L755[11:23:42] <ZaggyMobile2> ITileEntityProvider is stupid, as is BlockContainer

L756[11:24:06] <ZaggyMobile2> The tutorial is missing the overrides in the normal Block class

L757[11:25:17] <Baburek> Is it possible to get all "name" strings from mod to use them in lang file?

L758[11:25:37] <Lumien> Open the language file of the mod

L759[11:26:02] <Baburek> I don't have one

L760[11:26:06] <ZaggyMobile2> Yeah, in code there's no way to know of all of the names

L761[11:26:09] <Mierzen> Will there be a way for me to "re-use" furnace code, such as the smelting and GUI, and then just add my piece with the lava? Or will I have to code the entire block? If I can't re-use it, then there isn't really a reason for me to add a new furnace instead of just adding a new fuel block underneath, as Lum suggested. The only reason will then be for getting used to doing TEs

L762[11:26:16] <Lumien> Open up the jar file of the mod

L763[11:26:46] <alex_6611> mierzen, i think the block underneath makes more sense

L764[11:26:55] <ZaggyMobile2> Mierzen just override BlockFurnace and TEFurnace

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L766[11:27:07] <Baburek> I mean a method like "Save all strings in en_US file"

L767[11:27:08] <ZaggyMobile2> *extend

L768[11:27:20] <ZaggyMobile2> Override only what you need to

L769[11:27:30] <alex_6611> it's really your choice, if you go for an own furnace or the block underneath

L770[11:27:34] <tterrag|away> What for baburek?

L771[11:27:58] <Baburek> To translate

L772[11:28:00] <ZaggyMobile2> Alex he's doing his own block

L773[11:28:08] <Lumien> Open the mod jar file

L774[11:28:17] <Lumien> assets/modid/lang

L775[11:28:32] <Mierzen> Maybe it would be good for me to try both methods. That way I learn how to create TEs

L776[11:28:38] <alex_6611> yep

L777[11:28:49] <Lumien> Well both of them will require a te

L778[11:28:53] <alex_6611> yea

L779[11:29:09] <Baburek> because all these tile. gui. generator.

L780[11:29:33] <tterrag|away> huh?

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L782[11:30:41] <tterrag|away> You need to keep those

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L785[11:31:02] <Mierzen> ZaggyMobile2, I wanted to extend TEFurnace, but now they said I shouldn't? Can I extend two things; I haven't seen that before? Or will I then have a block extending BlockFurnace and a TE extending TEF?

L786[11:31:13] <Lumien> what you said

L787[11:31:27] <tterrag|away> You can't extend two thingd

L788[11:31:50] <ZaggyMobile2> Yes, both

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L790[11:32:51] <Mierzen> Okay, thanks. Just to make sure I'm with you all, extending furnace's block and TE means I can re-use (and override) its methods, instead of having to create an entirely new block/TE, right?

L791[11:32:54] <Baburek> Lumien, https://imgur.com/a/mCzEM

L792[11:33:48] <Lumien> What mod is that?

L793[11:33:55] <Baburek> SpaceBlock

L794[11:35:04] <Lumien> So

L795[11:35:06] <Lumien> Is that your mod?

L796[11:35:14] <tterrag|away> if it does not have Lang files you cannot translate it

L797[11:35:17] <Baburek> I can type a string manually, but I have to do that after each adding block, guim item etc

L798[11:35:47] <tterrag|away> oh you are asking how to make Lang files?

L799[11:36:08] <Baburek> Yes, with all strings from mod

L800[11:36:13] <Lumien> Is that your mod?

L801[11:36:28] <Baburek> With keys tile.block1.name=

L802[11:36:28] <ZaggyAFK> Have others help you, I'm away now :(

L803[11:37:47] <tterrag|away> Is it a mod you make Baburek?

L804[11:37:54] <Baburek> yes

L805[11:38:35] <tterrag|away> Then you just need to make .lang files in your assets/lang directory

L806[11:38:37] <tterrag|away> https://github.com/Chisel-Team/Chisel/tree/1.7/dev/src/main/resources/assets/chisel/lang

L807[11:38:41] <tterrag|away> Loke thay

L808[11:38:43] <tterrag|away> like that

L809[11:38:47] <tterrag|away> stupid phone

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L811[11:39:21] <Baburek> And type all string manually?

L812[11:39:42] <tterrag|away> yes

L813[11:40:03] <Baburek> all 1728 strings?

L814[11:40:13] <tterrag|away> How else are you going to do it?

L815[11:40:40] <tterrag|away> You could probably write some code to dump the language registry

L816[11:40:45] <fry> and people complain about json models :P

L817[11:40:47] <tterrag|away> I wouldn't know how to do that exactly though

L818[11:40:54] <Baburek> So I'm asking "how?"

L819[11:41:08] <Lumien> Baburek did you like take over a mod or something?

L820[11:41:09] <fry> there's probably all the registrations in the log already

L821[11:41:13] <tterrag|away> the language registry is just a map of strings

L822[11:41:24] <tterrag|away> iterate over it and print everything out, it's not too complicated

L823[11:43:00] <Poppy> now doing that in scala would be fun, single line stuff

L824[11:43:06] <Poppy> with filtering and everything

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L826[11:43:39] <sham1> java8 :P

L827[11:43:53] <tterrag|away> or retro lambda

L828[11:44:15] <Poppy> you and your fancy words

L829[11:44:24] <tterrag|away> that's still Java 8 really though

L830[11:46:15] <sham1> Java 8 lambdas are actually better than scala anon funcs

L831[11:46:20] <sham1> When looking at bytecode

L832[11:46:26] <sham1> Because invokedynamic and all that

L833[11:47:16] <Baburek> The map is private

L834[11:47:36] <fry> sham1: scala is moving to that in 1.12 :P

L835[11:47:48] <sham1> I know

L836[11:47:52] <fry> should interoperate seamlessly with java lambda stuffs

L837[11:49:08] <sham1> Cant wait to write runnable as () => .. instead of new Runnable{ def run() = ... }

L838[11:49:41] <fry> add an implicit conversion :P

L839[11:50:15] <sham1> What? no

L840[11:50:25] <fry> why not? :P

L841[11:50:51] <sham1> Because I would have to import the implicit class and all that and it is just meh

L842[11:51:19] <fry> not class - just a method

L843[11:51:27] <sham1> Well it has to be somewere

L844[11:52:33] <tterrag|away> Baburek: reflect it

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L847[11:55:10] <Pennyw95> what does it mean when a big red ! appears on your minecraft project? Right after moving the source folder?

L848[11:56:42] <Brokkoli> build path errors or something similar

L849[11:57:50] <tterrag> yeah, build error

L850[11:57:58] <tterrag> look in the "problems" tab

L851[11:57:58] <Pennyw95> ok thanks

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L855[12:00:50] <Mierzen> In idea, if I right click something to "Find usages", how do I make it search in the forge directory as well?

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L862[12:15:32] <Baburek> strange

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L864[12:16:20] <Baburek> The map doesn't contain mod's blocks names

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L867[12:19:38] <Mierzen> I've extended BlockFurnace, but I cant get the block to show up in the game http://pastebin.com/qQnBWZVG

L868[12:21:03] <Baburek> Are you calling init()?

L869[12:25:24] <Mierzen> Yip, in the Main class, in public void preInit(FMLPreInitializationEvent e)

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L871[12:26:53] <Ivorius> Mierzen: ctrl shift f7 iirc

L872[12:27:01] <Mierzen> Thanks Ivo

L873[12:27:11] <Ivorius> And select the Project and Libraries thing

L874[12:27:56] <Ivorius> Also make a breakpoint in init

L875[12:28:00] <Ivorius> It's probably not being called

L876[12:28:07] <Mierzen> ctrl shift f7 highlighted it in green.

L877[12:28:12] <Mierzen> Ill try the breakpoint now

L878[12:28:12] <Ivorius> Or it does appear ingame but doesn't have a tab

L879[12:28:48] <Ivorius> Well, search for your keybinding for Advanced Usage Search

L880[12:30:20] <Mierzen> Okay, thank you. I'm trying to run with only extending BlockFurnace atm. That should give me a plain custom furnace BLOCK - incapable of doing anything, right? I'm doing it like that, because I'm having trouble with extending and registering the TileEntityFurnace

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L882[12:30:28] <Mierzen> It stops at the breakpoint

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L884[12:31:04] <Ivorius> > Or it does appear ingame but doesn't have a tab

L885[12:31:53] <Mierzen> Ive searched for "furnace" and "custom" but neither shows up

L886[12:32:04] <Ivorius> Yes

L887[12:32:08] <Mierzen> well, it doesn't show up in either's results

L888[12:32:09] <Ivorius> Because it doesn't have a tab

L889[12:32:24] <Ivorius> Do you see upper door blocks in the creative menu?

L890[12:32:27] <Mierzen> Oh. i didn't know that it has to have a tab to show up

L891[12:32:28] <Ivorius> Even though they exist?

L892[12:32:32] <Mierzen> Good point

L893[12:32:33] <Ivorius> No, because they don't have a tab.

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L896[12:37:36] <Mierzen> I changed the CustomFurnaceBlock to http://pastebin.com/9rhgqBGh. When I loaded the world, it said that those two blocks are now missing. They still don't show up in the search results

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L901[12:41:36] <Mierzen> I changed it back and gave the items using the /give command. When placing the blocks down (without overriding the TE yet), it places down a furnace. I can right click it, though, and it can smelt and work just like a regular vanilla furnace. Breaking it gives a vanilla furnace...

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L903[12:44:32] <SkySom> Yeah you need to over ride whatever drops the block

L904[12:44:55] <SkySom> Can't remember the method name at this point

L905[12:45:06] <SkySom> And I don't have my dev environment open infront of me

L906[12:45:28] <Mierzen> Thanks, will tyr

L907[12:45:31] <Mierzen> *try

L908[12:45:56] <MattDahEpic> i need some help with the documentation page im making about loading stages. my current draft is https://paste.ee/p/GuKme and i need to fill in the ...s with when the events occur

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L911[12:55:45] <Baburek> It seems that there are no map for strings

L912[12:56:08] <Ivorius> wat

L913[12:57:16] <Baburek> Minecraft and forge doesn't store full untranslated strings

L914[12:58:27] <Baburek> tile.modid.blockname.name is "tile." + "modid.blockname" + "name"

L915[12:59:37] <Baburek> if registry contains key "tile.blabla=" with value, it returns the value

L916[13:00:19] <Baburek> if doesn't contain, key is being used as a block name for rendering and other shit

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L918[13:02:30] <Ivorius> Congratulations

L919[13:02:35] <Ivorius> You figured out placeholder translations

L920[13:03:36] <Baburek> I've tried to display all untranslated strings

L921[13:03:53] <Ivorius> lawl

L922[13:04:03] <Ivorius> How the fuck should it know what strings are not translated

L923[13:04:04] <Baburek> To prevent typing all "tile." "item." manually

L924[13:04:11] <Ivorius> I can literally give you an infinite list right now

L925[13:04:46] <Ivorius> You could gather them over the program's lifespan, but that's pretty ineffective

L926[13:05:51] <Baburek> I know, that it's not java channel, but is it possible to change a private method without asm?

L927[13:06:10] <fry> call it with reflection

L928[13:06:29] <fry> also, for your problem simply dumping all the blocks/items might work better

L929[13:07:25] <Mierzen> How can I get a block's hardness without it having to be in the world? Something like Blocks.furnace.getBlockHardness()

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L931[13:09:29] <Ivorius> Not all blocks know their hardness without in-world context

L932[13:09:38] <McJty> Mierzen, in general you can't

L933[13:10:29] <Mierzen> I thought it would be possible somehow

L934[13:10:51] <Lumien> You could just get it out of Block.blockHardness

L935[13:10:55] <Lumien> Just won't be 100% reliable

L936[13:12:05] <Mierzen> 'blockHardness' has protected access" in 'net.minecraft.block.Block'

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L938[13:12:55] <Mierzen> You know what, I think Im just going to make the block that has to be placed underneath the furnace. Its easier. I'm getting tired of this. Perhaps I should take a break

L939[13:13:37] <Lumien> It is easier

L940[13:13:52] <Lumien> And it also doesn't make too much sense to make the player craft a different furnace that smelts exactly the same way

L941[13:14:32] <Mierzen> Its also more intuitive having to place a "fuel" block under the furnace for it to use it

L942[13:20:24] <MattDahEpic> is anyone good at mod load stages? liek preinit, init, and postinit?

L943[13:23:41] <tterrag> "good" at them?

L944[13:23:43] <tterrag> what does that mean?

L945[13:24:39] <MattDahEpic> do you know when the load stages occur? like in terms of texture and mod loading

L946[13:24:58] <tterrag> textures are loaded twice, once before preinit and once after post init

L947[13:25:06] <tterrag> what exactly are you asking?

L948[13:25:09] <tterrag> don't be vague

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L950[13:25:50] <MattDahEpic> im making a docs page abotu load stages and my current draft is https://paste.ee/p/GuKme . i need to fill in the ...s

L951[13:26:18] <tterrag> if you have to ask about something to write docs on it, you probably shouldn't be writing docs on it

L952[13:26:20] <tterrag> sorry to say

L953[13:26:46] <MattDahEpic> im confirming that i have the right idea about when it loads

L954[13:28:43] <tterrag> Minecraft.startGame() has everything in order

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L956[13:34:59] <McJty> tterrag, actually writing a doc on something is a good way to learn

L957[13:35:02] <McJty> tterrag, I have done that in the past

L958[13:35:24] <McJty> It forces you to think things through and examine everything closely

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L962[13:38:34] <tterrag> for the official docs? I'd argue not

L963[13:38:37] <tterrag> it needs to be absolutely correct else we get something like the great packet leak of 1.7.2

L964[13:38:41] <tterrag> which was caused by *one* bad tutorial on the forge wiki

L965[13:40:18] <MattDahEpic> "The Great Packet Leak of 1.7.2" ONE TUTORIAL. PROBABLY LOTS OF PEOPLE. HUGE NETWORK WASTEAGE. coming to theatres soon.

L966[13:40:34] <MattDahEpic> *inception sound*

L967[13:47:00] <Mierzen> May I combine textures from minecraft or is it now allowed?

L968[13:47:54] <tterrag> Mierzen: ?

L969[13:48:56] <Mierzen> Lets say I want to use iron block's sides and use lava as the top texture

L970[13:49:22] <alex_6611> you can use vanilla textures as much as you want as long as they're not distributed with the mod.

L971[13:49:46] <alex_6611> so as long as you actually use the vanilla assets and don't copy them to your assets folder, you're fine

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L973[13:50:18] <Mierzen> Okay, thanks

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L976[13:51:51] <tterrag> it's not like a ton of mods distribute slightly modified vanilla textures

L977[13:51:59] <tterrag> mojang doesn't care as long as you don't sell it

L978[13:52:19] <tterrag> but if you are going to use *exact* vanilla textures, then yes just use them as they already exist in game

L979[13:52:37] <McJty> And you have the advantage that they will adapt if the person uses a different texture pack

L980[13:52:47] <McJty> (which can also be a disadvantage in some cases)

L981[13:53:01] <tterrag> ^

L982[13:54:32] <Mierzen> Thanks for the help

L983[13:54:46] <tterrag> MattDahEpic: for real though, it was bad

L984[13:54:54] <tterrag> pretty much every mod had to rewrite their networking entirely

L985[13:55:04] <kwantakosta> omg how hard can it be applying a texture to the block ... followed tutorial on it but still it doesn't want to load ... anyone have experience in this matter

L986[13:55:31] <MattDahEpic> kwantakosta, 1.8?

L987[13:55:41] <kwantakosta> sorry yeah 1.8

L988[13:55:53] <Zaggy1024> I have much experience

L989[13:55:57] <fry> it's a model, not texture then :P

L990[13:56:00] <Zaggy1024> also, boo

L991[13:56:08] <Zaggy1024> very true

L992[13:56:09] <fry> and show your code :P

L993[13:56:14] <Zaggy1024> matt makes that mistake a lot, it's confusing

L994[13:56:14] <MattDahEpic> i was abotu to help but Zaggy1024 is better than me, have fun

L995[13:56:22] <kwantakosta> yeah a model

L996[13:56:37] <Zaggy1024> so what do you have so far?

L997[13:56:43] <kwantakosta> give me a sec i'll drop in somewhere on github otherwise it's to many files :)

L998[13:56:46] <Zaggy1024> for both your model registration and jsons

L999[13:56:51] <Zaggy1024> yep

L1000[13:57:02] <Zaggy1024> MattDahEpic, fry is even better than me :P

L1001[13:57:25] <tterrag> MattDahEpic: https://github.com/tterrag1098/EnderIO/commit/d16b3ddd6b2cf9bda2dd89ef5c47e29286bfb55f

L1002[13:57:28] <fry> I only dabble

L1003[13:57:34] <Zaggy1024> ha

L1004[13:57:39] <Zaggy1024> if you say so

L1005[13:57:44] <tterrag> and about 3 other commits of the same or greater magnitude

L1006[13:57:49] <MattDahEpic> fry is best but he's only ever here for 1 sentence at a time

L1007[13:57:51] <tterrag> just to fix all the packets

L1008[13:59:56] <Mierzen> I'm using a fuel block underneath a vanilla furnace to fuel it. I made the block, now I'm busy with its TE. Previously people suggested I @Override

L1009[13:59:57] <Mierzen> public void updateEntity() on the fuel TE. How do I get the blocks location from there to check if there is a furnace above?

L1010[14:00:15] <Zaggy1024> pos or getPos()

L1011[14:00:15] <MattDahEpic> do you have a World?

L1012[14:00:17] <Zaggy1024> if on 1.8

L1013[14:00:36] <Zaggy1024> if not...I believe it was xCoord, yCoord, zCoord or some crap

L1014[14:00:51] <Zaggy1024> maybe xPos

L1015[14:02:28] <Mierzen> I have to override the method. The original one has no parameters so how would i get them? That is what I meant. http://pastebin.com/hjYKPCta

L1016[14:02:51] <kwantakosta> ok here is the repo

L1017[14:02:52] <kwantakosta> https://github.com/Kwantakosta/shopmod/tree/master/main

L1018[14:03:10] <Mierzen> or what should i extend now?

L1019[14:03:15] <kwantakosta> just gonna run down for a drink i'll be right back

L1020[14:03:42] <Zaggy1024> Mierzen, tile entities aren't singletons, they store their location and world in their fields

L1021[14:04:12] <Zaggy1024> worldObj.getTileEntity(pos.up())

L1022[14:04:32] <Mierzen> Thank you

L1023[14:05:22] <Mierzen> "cannot resolve symbol 'pos'"

L1024[14:06:35] <Mierzen> I see, i think I need to follow the start of this: http://widux.net/wiki/index.php?n=ModdingTutorials.BasicTileEntity

L1025[14:07:15] <Mierzen> Actually, this.whatever

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L1031[14:14:13] <Mierzen> Maybe I'm just tired but I'm struggling

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L1035[14:18:51] <Mierzen> I think I have it now. I can just use xCoord, yCoord, zCoord

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L1039[14:27:29] <Zaggy1024> aw frick

L1040[14:27:33] <Zaggy1024> come on you piece of crap

L1041[14:27:50] <Mierzen> ?

L1042[14:28:08] <Zaggy1024> can't make a block model json with vertices exceeding the 0-1 bounds of the block

L1043[14:28:10] <Zaggy1024> LIEJILAGNEa

L1044[14:28:27] <fry> wat? :P

L1045[14:28:27] <Mierzen> Unfortunately I cant help you

L1046[14:28:37] <Zaggy1024> fry, what wat?

L1047[14:28:44] <Zaggy1024> thought that was pretty clear :P

L1048[14:29:03] <Lumien> ?

L1049[14:29:04] <Lumien> Mine works

L1050[14:29:08] <Lumien> https://github.com/lumien231/Random-Things/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/randomthings/models/block/enderMailboxIdle.json

L1051[14:29:17] <Lumien> Unless i'm misunderstanding what you are trying to do

L1052[14:29:41] <kwantakosta> ok guys sorry for the delay i'm back

L1053[14:30:03] <Zaggy1024> Lumien, looks like you're exceeding 16 height maybe...hard to tell

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L1055[14:30:17] <Lumien> Yeah my block model goes out of the bounds of a block

L1056[14:30:18] <Zaggy1024> but I'm trying to make a model that's 4 blocks wide :P

L1057[14:30:34] <kwantakosta> i posted the link to the source in here so if anyone has time for me to help me on the model thing i would be very pleased :)

L1058[14:30:40] <Zaggy1024> fry, can I please abolish that limitation with a patch?

L1059[14:31:23] <Zaggy1024> looks like it allows...one block extra on each side as it is

L1060[14:31:23] <fry> split your model into 4 blocks

L1061[14:31:32] <Zaggy1024> dude

L1062[14:31:33] <fry> othewise it won't be lit up properly

L1063[14:31:35] <Zaggy1024> it's a simple plane

L1064[14:31:38] <Zaggy1024> oh

L1065[14:31:39] <Zaggy1024> true

L1066[14:31:40] <Zaggy1024> danget

L1067[14:31:43] <fry> it's easier then

L1068[14:31:50] <Zaggy1024> but...

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L1070[14:32:05] <Zaggy1024> not really actually

L1071[14:32:13] <Zaggy1024> It's a portal block that will be shadeleess

L1072[14:32:17] <Zaggy1024> so it doesn't need lighting

L1073[14:32:31] <Mierzen> Are TEs also registered in preInit?

L1074[14:32:34] <Zaggy1024> and I only want the center of it to teleport you

L1075[14:32:38] <Zaggy1024> yes

L1076[14:32:45] <Zaggy1024> or they can be

L1077[14:33:06] <Zaggy1024> that's where I do mine in 1.8, not sure if 1.7 is different actually

L1078[14:33:11] <Mierzen> my TE's updateEntity() doesn't get called :|

L1079[14:34:31] <Zaggy1024> do you have @Override on it, and no error?

L1080[14:34:34] <Mierzen> FuelBlock: http://pastebin.com/6AcSU64e FuelTileEntity: http://pastebin.com/DMDRhJRV

L1081[14:34:52] <kwantakosta> it give's me 2 errors in the console

L1082[14:34:56] <kwantakosta> [20:53:23] [Client thread/ERROR] [FML]: Model definition for location shopmod:exchanger#inventory not found

L1083[14:34:56] <kwantakosta> [20:53:23] [Client thread/ERROR] [FML]: Model definition for location shopmod:exchanger#normal not found

L1084[14:35:17] <Zaggy1024> hm, I don't know

L1085[14:35:34] <Zaggy1024> I don't remember a time when tile entities had an update method in the base class

L1086[14:35:39] <Zaggy1024> in 1.8 it's on an interface

L1087[14:35:41] <Mierzen> Should I remove it?

L1088[14:36:06] <Mierzen> How does it know that /that/ TE is linked to /that/ block?

L1089[14:36:09] <Zaggy1024> er...no

L1090[14:36:19] <Zaggy1024> because the world tracks it

L1091[14:36:39] <Zaggy1024> also the TE has its position to keep track of itself as well

L1092[14:37:17] <Mierzen> Should I then not create a block as well?

L1093[14:38:03] <Zaggy1024> oh, you aren't registering your tile entity?

L1094[14:38:12] <Zaggy1024> er

L1095[14:38:19] <Zaggy1024> you didn't override hasTileEntity in your block

L1096[14:38:38] <Zaggy1024> it won't create a te if you don't return true from that

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L1098[14:39:49] <Mierzen> Okay so then I just add hasTileEntity that retursn true?

L1099[14:40:00] <Zaggy1024> yeah

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L1101[14:41:12] <Mierzen> Im starting up now. In idea, hasTileEntity is striketroughed. Hovering over it says that it is deprecated?

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L1103[14:42:23] <Zaggy1024> 0.o

L1104[14:42:31] <Zaggy1024> tterrag, you know 1.7...what's up with that?

L1105[14:42:55] <Zaggy1024> if you're around

L1106[14:43:03] <gigaherz> Mierzen: is it the version that has a meta value as the arg?

L1107[14:43:06] <Zaggy1024> Mierzen, this is 1.7 right?

L1108[14:43:13] <Zaggy1024> ah right

L1109[14:43:19] <Zaggy1024> the overload, I forgot

L1110[14:43:22] <Mierzen> UpdateEntity is still not called. Here is where I register the block and TE: http://pastebin.com/2uchVRiJ, which is called in FMLPreInitializationEvent

L1111[14:43:38] <Mierzen> I'll check the args for you

L1112[14:43:51] <Mierzen> 1.7.10

L1113[14:43:52] <gigaherz> the one you need to override is "public boolean hasTileEntity(int metadata)"

L1114[14:44:36] <Mierzen> @Override

L1115[14:44:36] <Mierzen> public boolean hasTileEntity()

L1116[14:44:36] <Mierzen> {

L1117[14:44:36] <Mierzen> return true;

L1118[14:44:36] <Mierzen> }

L1119[14:44:39] <Mierzen> ?

L1120[14:44:42] <gigaherz> nope

L1121[14:44:47] <gigaherz> the one that has int metadata

L1122[14:44:48] <Mierzen> soz

L1123[14:44:51] <Mierzen> I see new

L1124[14:44:52] <Mierzen> now

L1125[14:45:06] <Mierzen> and there goes the line. Let me test it quickly

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L1127[14:46:59] <Mierzen> I still don't reach the breakpoint which is placed in public void updateEntity()

L1128[14:47:53] <Zaggy1024> check if your TE is being created

L1129[14:49:52] <Mierzen> I misread giga's message: the one you need to override is "public boolean hasTileEntity(int metadata)" I read 'the ONLY one'. I re-added createTE and now it seems to work!

L1130[14:50:03] <Zaggy1024> oh

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L1133[14:51:42] <Mierzen> lol

L1134[14:53:28] <Mierzen> TADA! I'm smelting!! Thanks so much for your help

L1135[14:53:41] <Zaggy1024> np

L1136[14:55:27] <diesieben07> that does not sound healthy

L1137[14:55:29] <diesieben07> just sayin

L1138[14:55:37] <heldplayer> I was about to say

L1139[14:55:53] <heldplayer> But I suppose, whatever floats your boat

L1140[14:56:00] <heldplayer> Or in this case, smelts it

L1141[14:56:34] <Mierzen> Hahaha LOL!

L1142[14:56:53] <Mierzen> Really, thanks everyone! I wouldnt have been able to do it without your help

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L1146[15:00:54] <gigaherz> Mierzen: you are welcome, we are here becauase we like to help. ;P

L1147[15:01:04] <gigaherz> -a

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L1150[15:02:49] <Mierzen> For some reason it only smelts two items :-| I then have to remove the output for it to restart

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L1152[15:03:24] <Mierzen> http://pastebin.com/p4BLjkcW

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L1155[15:04:45] <diesieben07> 1. do NOT compare ItemStacks using unlocalized names. 2. do not compare strings using ==. 3. just because you are telling the furnace "hey you are on now" it's not actually really on.

L1156[15:05:17] <Mierzen> Thanks for the feedback. How should I rather do it?

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L1158[15:08:13] <diesieben07> 1. you need something like this: https://goo.gl/kopCYD 2. use a.equals(b) or Objects.equal(a, b) if you want to be null-safe. 3. i woudl have to look into how the furnace works exactly to tell you if this is even possible.

L1159[15:08:30] <diesieben07> and with 3... i also don't *actualy* know what you are trying to do, I am just assuming from that piece of code you posted.

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L1163[15:09:49] <Cypher121> Mierzen: so you want your TE to power furnace next to it, right?

L1164[15:10:01] <Mierzen> Above it, but yes

L1165[15:10:26] <Mierzen> Sorry, i forgot to restate what i'm trying to do, since you weren't here when I started

L1166[15:12:01] <Mierzen> I want the furnace to be on when the fuel block is underneath. I just added checks for if it should start. If the there is a item to be smelted and it *can* be smelted, then I check if the output slot is either empty or already has the output item (so, will the smelting be successful?) If so, If the current "fuel amount" (burnTime) is basicalyy zero, i add burntime

L1167[15:12:49] <Mierzen> The BlockFurnace.updateFurnaceBlockState(true, worldObj, xCoord, yCoord+1, zCoord); is there to update the furnace texture. It agrees with what Vazkii has done using the exoflame

L1168[15:13:06] <tterrag> diesieben07: accelerating the furnace manually is possible, he wouldn't be the first mod to do it

L1169[15:13:09] <tterrag> see: heating coil from HZ

L1170[15:13:11] <tterrag> FZ*

L1171[15:13:15] <diesieben07> yes, it is possible

L1172[15:13:19] <diesieben07> just not that easily

L1173[15:13:28] <Cypher121> also check here: https://github.com/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/blob/66397cc86fc73d7fd0e505e411d5a77308028cbf/src/main/java/blusunrize/immersiveengineering/common/blocks/metal/TileEntityFurnaceHeater.java

L1174[15:13:40] <Mierzen> After everything is working, i'm going to add checks to not update (i.e. check everything on each update)

L1175[15:13:51] <Mierzen> Will check, cypher

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L1177[15:13:54] <diesieben07> you have to set furnaceBurnTime to some positive value

L1178[15:14:11] <Mierzen> I set it to 400?

L1179[15:14:49] <Cypher121> just fyi, 400 = (stack burn time) * 2

L1180[15:15:13] <diesieben07> right... it should work then...

L1181[15:15:33] <Mierzen> Yes. And previously I found out that each item burns for 200 ticks

L1182[15:15:47] <Mierzen> It works, but not constantly. It stops after a while

L1183[15:17:04] <Mierzen> (btw, i also plan to add acceleration, but that will come after everything is working as it should)

L1184[15:19:09] <Mierzen> It smelts the items, but stops after a while. Forcing a block update on the fuel block does not start it again. changing the stack size to be smelted or already-smelted doesnt start it either. neither does replacing the fuel block. i have to remove all "results"

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L1186[15:24:27] <Mierzen> diesieben07,from which library does equalsImpl come?

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L1188[15:24:43] <diesieben07> it's in the same class file

L1189[15:24:57] <diesieben07> like 3 lines down

L1190[15:25:01] <Mierzen> Okay, I didn't see it

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L1192[15:26:22] <Mierzen> Does 1.7.10 have ItemStack.getMetadata()?

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L1194[15:26:36] <Cypher121> getItemDamage()

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L1196[15:27:00] <Mierzen> Thank you

L1197[15:31:30] <Mierzen> diesie, it seems implementing your equal() automatically fixed the stopping of the furnace. I see now how using == for strings, along with unlocalized names can cause problems

L1198[15:31:49] <diesieben07> glad you could fix it

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L1200[15:34:13] <Mierzen> Would it be okay with you if I use your equal() and equalsImpl() in this mod? getMetadata() is changed to getItemDamage() and I cannot use the Contract annotation

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L1202[15:34:46] <diesieben07> sure you can

L1203[15:34:54] <diesieben07> it's LGPL

L1204[15:35:17] <Mierzen> I saw, v3, but I wanted to confirm

L1205[15:35:19] <Mierzen> Thank you

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L1207[15:36:03] <fry> copyiong code from LGPL will most likely result in LGPL applying to your code too :P

L1208[15:36:26] <fry> explicit permission from the author is of course enough too though :P

L1209[15:36:29] <diesieben07> well, with that method you can hardly call it "copying" :D

L1210[15:36:37] <diesieben07> its like.. a null check and a method call

L1211[15:37:56] * fry wants to see the link

L1212[15:38:02] <Mierzen> https://github.com/diesieben07/SevenCommons/blob/1.7/src/main/java/de/take_weiland/mods/commons/util/ItemStacks.java#L43-59

L1213[15:38:39] <Mierzen> I copied it and changed two lines, and referenced diesie's file. I'm also using LGPL, but v2. I can change it

L1214[15:38:59] <fry> equal is Objects.equal (either guava or java7 Objects, whichever you prefer)

L1215[15:39:06] <fry> well, almost

L1216[15:39:09] <diesieben07> no its not

L1217[15:39:13] <diesieben07> ItemStack has no equals method

L1218[15:39:20] <fry> yup, it'll call the original equals

L1219[15:39:30] <diesieben07> which is why this method exists :D

L1220[15:40:16] <Mierzen> diesie, have you though of PR'ing it to Forge?

L1221[15:40:28] <heldplayer> "Just ASM an equals method in" *insert troll face*

L1222[15:40:37] <diesieben07> No, not really. Forge is not really a place for utilities like this

L1223[15:40:41] <fry> it was in forge at some point, iirc, it breaks mods

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L1225[15:40:48] <Mierzen> Oh okay

L1226[15:40:49] <fry> (adding the .equals to the ItemStack)

L1227[15:41:17] <fry> Also, it's probably not a bad idea to put this somewhere in forge :P

L1228[15:41:22] <fry> not sure where though

L1229[15:41:29] <diesieben07> anyone have a resource for learning how to implement like a image color-filter? so like... an algorithm to add a blue tint to the image for example

L1230[15:41:50] <fry> multiply all pixels by the blue color

L1231[15:41:55] <fry> simplest way

L1232[15:41:58] <heldplayer> You could use a colour matrix maybe that prioritizes blue?

L1233[15:42:03] <diesieben07> how do I "mulitply pixels"? :D

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L1235[15:42:17] <fry> rNew = rOld * rMask

L1236[15:42:24] <fry> same for others

L1237[15:42:29] <heldplayer> Go over every pixel, take its colours as a vector, have a transformation matrix for colours, multiply, store in pixel

L1238[15:42:42] <fry> matrix realy isn't neccesary here

L1239[15:42:50] <heldplayer> Depends how good you want it to look

L1240[15:43:00] <diesieben07> what is rXXX?

L1241[15:43:04] <diesieben07> rgb as hex?

L1242[15:43:04] <heldplayer> Multiplicative is often not very good looking imo

L1243[15:43:06] <fry> red

L1244[15:43:09] <diesieben07> oh

L1245[15:43:23] * diesieben07 experiments

L1246[15:43:26] <diesieben07> thanks

L1247[15:43:50] <fry> multiplicative colors is how light is applied to the objects, for example

L1248[15:44:45] <heldplayer> Well yeah, but then you have a value that depends on the pixel to multiply with, don't you?

L1249[15:44:48] <fry> diesieben07: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blend_modes

L1250[15:45:12] <fry> heldplayer: if it doesn't then it's not blending, it's substitution :P

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L1252[15:45:59] <heldplayer> I mean like, the value to multiply the original pixel with depends on the data for said pixel (being depth buffer, for example)

L1253[15:46:25] <fry> what?

L1254[15:46:49] <fry> depth buffer shouldn't be relevant at all here

L1255[15:47:08] <heldplayer> Isn't it relevant to calculating the light to fall upon it?

L1256[15:47:13] <heldplayer> From your example

L1257[15:48:01] <fry> I assume diesie wants simple 2d pixel array blending, without involving any geometry at all

L1258[15:48:10] <diesieben07> yes indeed+

L1259[15:48:26] <diesieben07> it does not need to be very fancy, the image is 256x256 only and will be upscaled minecraft-style

L1260[15:48:28] <diesieben07> :D

L1261[15:48:45] <heldplayer> I know, but I'm talking about your comment "<@fry> multiplicative colors is how light is applied to the objects, for example"

L1262[15:49:02] <heldplayer> /fork the convo

L1263[15:49:41] <fry> well, real life lighting is very complicated, but multiplication is a great approximation :P

L1264[15:50:20] <fry> (it's a perfect approximation for an even ambient light + completely matte material, I think :P)

L1265[15:50:33] <heldplayer> I suppose

L1266[15:51:37] <MattDahEpic> why does git rebase take sooooooooo long

L1267[15:51:59] <fry> because your commits are huge :P

L1268[15:52:05] <MattDahEpic> lies

L1269[15:52:18] <MattDahEpic> 26 lines isnt long

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L1271[15:52:28] <fry> then it should be fast

L1272[15:52:43] <heldplayer> How busy is your disk?

L1273[15:52:49] <heldplayer> And is it an HDD or SSD?

L1274[15:53:23] <MattDahEpic> its been on Rebasing (2/2) for like 20 mins. my disk is a 7200rpm and the only other thing im doing is listening to music

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L1276[15:53:37] <fry> that can't be right

L1277[15:53:46] <fry> something is very wrong

L1278[15:54:03] <heldplayer> Disk RPM doesn't determine how busy it is though

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L1280[15:55:02] <MattDahEpic> the only activity task manager reports is on the music drive, theres no activity on the code drive

L1281[15:55:34] <HassanS6000> Halp! http://pastebin.com/8CQ1vYHy this doesn't change the players location

L1282[15:55:34] <heldplayer> Is the git process doing anything at all?

L1283[15:55:52] <HassanS6000> It gets called and all, even the setLocationAndAngles, but it still won't work

L1284[15:56:18] <MattDahEpic> https://i.imgur.com/r3AeOcz.png S: is the code drive

L1285[15:56:25] <HassanS6000> Same thing with setPosition

L1286[15:56:54] <heldplayer> Does git usually take a long time to do operations?

L1287[15:57:08] <MattDahEpic> only command line git, not idea git

L1288[15:57:26] * HassanS6000 <3 command line git

L1289[15:58:02] <heldplayer> That's... very strange

L1290[16:00:31] <HassanS6000> The transferToDimension call works fine, but the setPosition doesn't do anything..

L1291[16:00:34] <diesieben07> fry, looking at that wiki article. if I just blend with "completely blue", so 0x0000FF, it won't change the blue pixels at all. and neither the other pixels...

L1292[16:00:46] <MattDahEpic> my questing is why 3 git.exes spawn when i use commandline git. they all dissappear afterwards

L1293[16:01:05] <fry> diesieben07: it'll set r and g to 0, and multiply the original blue by 1

L1294[16:01:18] <fry> so, effectively leave only the blue channel of the original image

L1295[16:01:25] <diesieben07> oh.

L1296[16:01:27] <diesieben07> herp derp.

L1297[16:01:34] <fry> which is how it'll look in the blue light :P

L1298[16:01:40] <diesieben07> i only blended the blue channel -.-

L1299[16:01:52] <fry> lol

L1300[16:03:35] <HassanS6000> Fixed it!

L1301[16:03:40] <HassanS6000> lol had to do setPositonAndUpdate

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L1304[16:08:47] <diesieben07> goddamnit. http://i.imgur.com/7mdXcbT.png

L1305[16:09:06] <fry> heh

L1306[16:09:31] <fry> what did you want to do? :P

L1307[16:09:41] <MattDahEpic> diesieben07, i like the blue horse boots

L1308[16:10:01] <diesieben07> its like... if you put one of those blue see-through color filters in front of a camera

L1309[16:10:04] <diesieben07> that effect

L1310[16:10:11] <diesieben07> (replace blue with <color>)

L1311[16:10:27] <fry> heh, you need to draw efter everything then

L1312[16:10:48] <fry> or even fiddling with the framebuffer might be easier

L1313[16:10:51] <diesieben07> draw? no, not draw

L1314[16:10:58] <diesieben07> this is an image stored on disk as a PNG

L1315[16:11:02] <diesieben07> or rather, i have it as a BufferedImage

L1316[16:12:51] * fry got the impression you want it to happen to the whole screen

L1317[16:13:01] <fry> or are you post-processing the screenshot? :P

L1318[16:13:19] <diesieben07> exactly that.

L1319[16:13:48] <Mierzen> Can I use multiple texture files for a block's texture, with one of them being animated using a "long" png file along with a *.png.mcmeta?

L1320[16:13:57] <diesieben07> sure you can.

L1321[16:14:50] <Mierzen> Okay, thanks. I will look for a way

L1322[16:16:36] <HassanS6000> !gm spawnParticle

L1323[16:16:58] <HassanS6000> !gm func_175682_a

L1324[16:17:36] <diesieben07> Mierzen, you don't have to do anything special. animated textures behave just like normal textures.

L1325[16:17:58] <Mierzen> Oh cool. I then just set the sides to using the correct texture files

L1326[16:17:59] <MattDahEpic> excpet they're animated *mind explodes*

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L1328[16:19:47] <diesieben07> there. much better. http://i.imgur.com/AJzpJL7.png

L1329[16:20:10] <MattDahEpic> diesieben07, i like your underwater world

L1330[16:20:16] <diesieben07> :D

L1331[16:20:21] <MattDahEpic> :#

L1332[16:20:24] <MattDahEpic> :3

L1333[16:20:49] <fry> day for night :P

L1334[16:26:26] <heldplayer> diesieben07: What are you doing? :o

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L1336[16:26:42] <diesieben07> (finally) updating CameraCraft.

L1337[16:26:45] <diesieben07> Don't tell anyone.

L1338[16:27:00] <heldplayer> Your secret is safe between you and me

L1339[16:27:10] * heldplayer deletes the secret from everybody's computer

L1340[16:27:11] <diesieben07> lol

L1341[16:27:17] <Cypher121> several years of modding led to this and finally it's happening

L1342[16:27:24] <Cypher121> minecraft took 5 minutes to crash

L1343[16:27:32] <diesieben07> it's not like anyone can jsut see it on github..

L1344[16:27:52] <fry> add instagram instant upload :P

L1345[16:28:19] <diesieben07> you may write an addon for that later ;p

L1346[16:28:22] <diesieben07> there is a good api :D

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L1356[16:48:07] <Mierzen> How do I make a recipe using a bucket return the bucket when done?

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L1358[16:48:22] <MattDahEpic> Mierzen, container items

L1359[16:48:36] <diesieben07> override hasContainerItem and getContainerItem

L1360[16:48:44] <diesieben07> in the full bucket

L1361[16:49:10] <Mierzen> I will take a shot at that

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L1364[16:51:12] <Mierzen> Oh guess what, no need. Using a full bucket in te recipe automatically gives it back

L1365[16:51:47] <diesieben07> yes :D

L1366[16:52:03] <Mierzen> Cool

L1367[16:56:23] <Mierzen> In my lang file I have tile.fuelBlock.name=Furnace Fuel Block, but it still displays the unlocalized name in the game. Any idea why?

L1368[16:58:03] <diesieben07> first, you should include your ModID in your unlocalized name

L1369[16:59:57] <Mierzen> My constructor for the fuelBlock has this: this.setBlockTextureName(Reference.MODID + ":" + unlocalizedName); and where I register it, i use GameRegistry.registerBlock(fuelBlock = new FuelBlock("fuelBlock", Material.iron), "fuelBlock");

L1370[17:01:02] <Mierzen> "fuelBlock" is the unlocalizedName param in the setBlockTextureName

L1371[17:02:30] <HassanS6000> How would I make it so the crafting table will work even for damaged items?

L1372[17:02:43] <HassanS6000> Ex. if I have a damaged sword, and have a recipe to convert it to diamond

L1373[17:02:47] <HassanS6000> Is that possible?

L1374[17:03:33] <Mierzen> I found why it didn't show the name. Silly mistake: didn't put the lang folder inside assets/MODID/. I put in in /assets/

L1375[17:05:19] <diesieben07> HassanS6000, use OreDictionary.WILDCARD_VALUE as the ItemStack metadata when registering the recipe

L1376[17:05:32] <HassanS6000> diesieben07, thanks :)

L1377[17:10:16] <Mierzen> I got a mcmod.info file somewhere containing "version": "${version}",

L1378[17:10:16] <Mierzen> "mcversion": "${mcversion}" I guess those are for automatically getting the correct strings to put there. However, it displays as is, with the $ and all. How do I make it get the values automatically?

L1379[17:11:56] <diesieben07> you build your mod

L1380[17:12:01] <diesieben07> it doesn't work in the development environment

L1381[17:13:40] <HassanS6000> diesieben07, how can I change the color of the item name and lore?

L1382[17:14:08] <diesieben07> prepend one of the EnumChatFormatting constants

L1383[17:14:12] <Mierzen> Oh I see, thanks

L1384[17:15:40] <HassanS6000> diesieben07, how to do that for the item name? That's defined in lang file

L1385[17:16:18] <diesieben07> override getItemStackDisplayName. in there return EnumChatFormatting.XXXX + super.getItemStackDisplayName

L1386[17:16:36] <HassanS6000> kk ty

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L1389[17:34:26] <Zaggy1024> you can put formatting codes in lang files

L1390[17:34:47] <Zaggy1024> I did that for an invalid item metadata name to make red for extra scary factor

L1391[17:34:58] <Zaggy1024> *make it red

L1392[17:35:56] <simon816> just saw a crash report with UCHIJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA could that suggest forge is entering a state multiple times?

L1393[17:36:03] <simon816> https://github.com/BuildCraft/BuildCraft/issues/3111

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L1395[17:43:29] <HassanS6000> Is there an event fired when a portal is created

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L1397[17:44:26] <HassanS6000> Specifically a nether portal

L1398[17:46:13] <Zaggy1024> HassanS6000, look at Teleporter

L1399[17:46:22] <Zaggy1024> that's where portals are found or created

L1400[17:46:26] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, okay

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L1404[17:51:53] <Zaggy1024> long lines are fun

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L1412[18:44:30] <MattDahEpic> omg 1 week until fallout4!

L1413[18:45:46] <Cypher121> oh wait

L1414[18:45:50] <Cypher121> the fuck is this

L1415[18:46:06] <Cypher121> SC2: Legacy of the Void and FO4 come out on the same day

L1416[18:46:20] <MattDahEpic> its a conundrum

L1417[18:46:26] <MattDahEpic> but fo4 is clearly better

L1418[18:46:31] <Cypher121> '_'

L1419[18:46:46] <Cypher121> nah, I'll go play SC first

L1420[18:47:25] <MattDahEpic> -_-

L1421[18:47:56] <gigaherz> my flatmate got an xbox elite controller specifically to have it before fallout

L1422[18:47:57] <gigaherz> XD

L1423[18:48:36] <MattDahEpic> i need to make 80 curepoints this week to get fo4 without and out of pocket money

L1424[18:48:49] <MattDahEpic> any out of pocket*

L1425[18:50:05] <Cypher121> YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS

L1426[18:50:21] <MattDahEpic> no i have anough fallout4... i mean pylons

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L1429[18:54:22] <Cypher121> it's funny how my server is too laggy to process /kick, but fine when it comes to handling zombies attacking me...

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L1435[19:23:51] <HassanS6000> This code spawns a firework rocket on right click, however after it spawns it disappears, like the world is taking it out or there was a desync issue. Anybody know why?

L1436[19:23:52] <HassanS6000> http://pastebin.com/3c3vfXWy

L1437[19:24:07] <HassanS6000> Also, how would I change the color of its trail

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L1445[19:53:43] <HassanS6000> How can I change a firework rocket's LIFETIME?

L1446[19:53:59] <HassanS6000> *EntityFireworkRocket

L1447[19:54:26] <Drullkus> Implement at least 5 APIs, and write a few ASMs for 3 mods, and win a brawl again Lex.

L1448[19:54:29] <Drullkus> against*

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L1450[19:54:37] <HassanS6000> nvm

L1451[19:54:43] * Drullkus was joking x3

L1452[19:54:47] * HassanS6000 chuckles

L1453[19:55:01] <Drullkus> I'm right now trying to implement the AE api.

L1454[19:55:13] <Drullkus> This is the second API I have to hook into my mod now.

L1455[19:55:33] <Drullkus> I did the Bee stuff from forestry

L1456[19:55:39] <Drullkus> yesterday xD

L1457[19:56:13] <Drullkus> HassanS6000: Result? http://gfycat.com/LikelyCourageousFawn

L1458[19:56:55] <HassanS6000> Drullkus, that looks cool =3

L1459[19:57:11] <Drullkus> Yep. I have created a bee Species that chisels stuff

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L1461[19:57:56] <mezz> man that reddit thread has so many good suggestions today

L1462[19:58:08] <mezz> chisel creeper!?

L1463[19:58:26] <mezz> I can't wait to see those bees on a cart though

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L1469[20:42:30] <tterrag> Cypher121: classy bug report

L1470[20:44:09] <Cypher121> heh

L1471[20:45:45] <Drullkus> lol

L1472[20:47:30] <Cypher121> well, I mean that's a quite precise description of the situation, isn't it?

L1473[20:47:49] <Drullkus> ...pretty much

L1474[20:49:32] <Drullkus> reminds me of https://twitter.com/Drullkus/status/661601400107892736 , Cypher121

L1475[20:49:46] <Drullkus> mezz: Totally x3

L1476[20:49:58] <Drullkus> I'm wondering if the 4.0 API can work on 4.1

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L1478[20:54:50] <mezz> it should

L1479[20:55:04] <Drullkus> mezz: Excellent

L1480[20:55:08] <Drullkus> I shall test it later

L1481[20:55:08] <mezz> I'm being extra careful not to break the API after 4.0

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L1485[21:03:12] <HassanS6000> Anyone wanna see how I did it?

L1486[21:03:18] <HassanS6000> It was a pain in the arse

L1487[21:03:28] <HassanS6000> But it could come handy to others, so I might post it on the forums

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L1498[21:20:20] <securitypedant> hola

L1499[21:20:47] <securitypedant> I have an external service that I want to use to make remote calls into a running Minecraft server to spawn mobs into a game

L1500[21:21:15] <securitypedant> i.e. send a text to a number hosted by Twilio, that results in a HTTP GET to a webservice that ends up somehow talking to a Minecraft running server

L1501[21:21:26] <securitypedant> Any tips on the right approach?

L1502[21:21:45] <MattDahEpic> you'd need the location, type and properties of the mob to spawn

L1503[21:21:55] <securitypedant> Do I try and embed a HTTPD into a forge mod, or is there another way to get external events into the server?

L1504[21:22:20] <MattDahEpic> you could http get evry tick but that'd be laggy

L1505[21:22:28] <securitypedant> yeah i've figured out the internal logic. The message to the server will have waypoint names that determine at which predetermined location the mobs will spwan

L1506[21:22:35] <securitypedant> s/spwan/spawn

L1507[21:22:55] <MattDahEpic> if its not time sensitive you could put the details in a file and get the file on intervals

L1508[21:23:00] <securitypedant> what I need to get a little start on, is how to have an external process communicate to the server.

L1509[21:23:07] <securitypedant> yeah I thought about a file

L1510[21:23:22] <securitypedant> but if I have one process writing, then minecraft reading... just messsy

L1511[21:23:39] <securitypedant> I might have a lot of incoming requests writing to the file and MInecraft never reading from it

L1512[21:23:46] <securitypedant> i thought maybe use an event queue

L1513[21:23:52] <securitypedant> have minecraft read the events

L1514[21:24:11] <securitypedant> or i have a file per message

L1515[21:24:19] <MattDahEpic> you'd have to have a mod that reads from disk and sends the events or a wrapper on the console that sends messages

L1516[21:24:25] <securitypedant> write the files and then minecraft reads and deletes after reading

L1517[21:25:08] * securitypedant thinks

L1518[21:25:11] <MattDahEpic> i would try something like mcrtoolkit and use it's telnet

L1519[21:25:19] <securitypedant> yeah, the quickest and easiest way is just write a file per message

L1520[21:25:37] <tterrag> securitypedant: Minecraft has a remote console

L1521[21:25:45] <MattDahEpic> its a console wrapper and you'd just send summon commands

L1522[21:25:54] <MattDahEpic> blah blah rcon shwabbledabble

L1523[21:26:10] <MattDahEpic> thats probably the best way, just rcon in sommon commands

L1524[21:26:10] <securitypedant> tterrag: in vanilla or forge?

L1525[21:26:20] <MattDahEpic> no mods needed, could run vanilla server

L1526[21:26:30] <MattDahEpic> vanilla has rcon securitypedant

L1527[21:26:41] <tterrag> vanilla

L1528[21:26:55] <securitypedant> oh, i don't know what rcon is :)

L1529[21:26:56] <securitypedant> lemme go read

L1530[21:27:13] <securitypedant> so basically I write a Minecraft command, and then call it from rcon?

L1531[21:27:23] <securitypedant> and make some simple PHP/Ruby app that can call rcon?

L1532[21:27:23] <tterrag> well /summon is already a command

L1533[21:27:27] <tterrag> but yes

L1534[21:27:31] <securitypedant> duh, yes

L1535[21:27:32] <securitypedant> i see

L1536[21:27:40] <securitypedant> ok, I have some learning to do on rcon

L1537[21:27:44] <securitypedant> thanks fellas

L1538[21:27:51] <killjoy> Using gson, I'm having trouble with deserialization.

L1539[21:27:59] <securitypedant> oh, rcon is in 1.7.10?

L1540[21:28:06] <killjoy> I have class Value<T> {T t;}

L1541[21:28:29] <killjoy> I want to serialize that class to t

L1542[21:28:38] <killjoy> How would I get the type of t?

L1543[21:28:40] <MattDahEpic> securitypedant, yes but /summon isnt

L1544[21:28:42] <tterrag> you wouldn't

L1545[21:28:51] <tterrag> types are erased

L1546[21:29:06] <tterrag> don't be vague killjoy, what do you need to do exactly?

L1547[21:29:06] <securitypedant> MattDahEpic: no worries, I can easily write a mod for the commands I want

L1548[21:29:22] <killjoy> I thought I was being precise

L1549[21:29:32] <tterrag> you said you are having trouble with deserialization

L1550[21:29:37] <tterrag> then asked how to serialize the class to t

L1551[21:29:40] <tterrag> I don't know what that means really

L1552[21:29:41] <killjoy> would normally serialize to {value:5}

L1553[21:29:48] <killjoy> I want it to just be 5, but it's also a generic type.

L1554[21:30:06] <tterrag> serialization doesn't care about generics

L1555[21:30:06] <killjoy> I can serialize it fine. I need to deserialize it.

L1556[21:30:13] <tterrag> then you need to provide the type

L1557[21:30:26] <tterrag> it can't just magically figure out the type

L1558[21:30:40] <killjoy> gson seems to do fine with List<thing>

L1559[21:31:05] <tterrag> yes because the class it's deserializing explicitly defines the type of the variable

L1560[21:31:18] <securitypedant> https://github.com/thedudeguy/PHP-Minecraft-Rcon

L1561[21:31:21] <securitypedant> oh boy, so so simple

L1562[21:31:22] <tterrag> but if the CLASS is generic, that doesn't work

L1563[21:31:44] <killjoy> I just need to fine the list deserializer

L1564[21:32:42] <tterrag> what about list?

L1565[21:32:47] <tterrag> you said your class was Value<T>

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L1567[21:33:04] <killjoy> Defined as fields

L1568[21:33:35] <tterrag> what?

L1569[21:33:56] <tterrag> could you just post the class you are trying to deserialize?

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L1572[21:36:19] <killjoy> I think I need to use a type adapter factory

L1573[21:36:28] <tterrag> not really

L1574[21:36:38] <killjoy> It's what I see gson is doing

L1575[21:37:29] <tterrag> you just need to give it a generic type to use...since it can't be inferred

L1576[21:37:35] <tterrag> again if you posted your code I could help more

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L1579[21:49:52] <killjoy> http://pastebin.com/9Cxtb90f

L1580[21:49:56] <killjoy> That's what I have right now.

L1581[21:49:57] <MrGrouch> Hey shadekiller666 any ideas why http://puu.sh/l8Gen/680aacf150.png looks like http://puu.sh/l8GdH/b17a8726e8.jpg in game?

L1582[21:49:58] <killjoy> About to test

L1583[21:50:22] <MrGrouch> Repo: https://github.com/disconsented/Cristalllum

L1584[21:51:12] <shadekiller666> mrgrouch, the objloader only knows how to handle a maximum of 4 vertices per face, and ignores the rest

L1585[21:51:33] <MrGrouch> So I need to go and simplify my model then?

L1586[21:51:47] <shadekiller666> its a limitation of the way that it shoves the data into minecraft

L1587[21:51:50] <shadekiller666> uhh

L1588[21:52:08] <shadekiller666> at least add more edges so that each face is 4 vertices

L1589[21:52:47] <shadekiller666> the see-throughness of the block underneath is because you aren't overriding isFullCube() or isOpaqueCube() in your block

L1590[21:53:15] <shadekiller666> i can't remember which, theres 4 different boolean-return functions that relate to block rendering...

L1591[21:53:43] <shadekiller666> i will talk to fry about how/if support for >4 vertices would work

L1592[21:54:11] <MrGrouch> Cool, cheers

L1593[21:54:22] <shadekiller666> np

L1594[21:56:52] <gigaherz> MrGrouch: note for the future, always model with quads andd/or triangles

L1595[21:57:07] <gigaherz> larger polygons are not generally "wanted" on games ;P

L1596[21:57:14] <gigaherz> -d

L1597[21:58:22] <gigaherz> specially non-planar ones

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L1602[22:10:25] <tterrag> killjoy: yeah the type adapter stuff is useless

L1603[22:10:31] <tterrag> just give it a type when you deserialize...

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L1605[22:14:25] <killjoy> got it

L1606[22:14:35] <killjoy> I had to cast Type to ParameterizedType

L1607[22:14:49] <killjoy> then getActualTypeArguments()[0];

L1608[22:15:14] <tterrag> god...no

L1609[22:15:16] <tterrag> dude

L1610[22:15:34] <Drullkus> lol

L1611[22:15:37] <tterrag> gson.deserialize(json, new TypeToken<Type<XXX>>(){}.getType())

L1612[22:15:47] <killjoy> I don't know the type

L1613[22:15:54] <tterrag> then you cannot be helped

L1614[22:15:58] <tterrag> the type *MUST* be known

L1615[22:16:01] <tterrag> it cannot be inferred by magic

L1616[22:16:06] <Drullkus> XD

L1617[22:16:22] <killjoy> http://pastebin.com/4eL2zVg1

L1618[22:16:25] <tterrag> if the value is declared as Value<Foo> in another class you are deserializing, then that will work

L1619[22:16:38] <killjoy> Which it is

L1620[22:17:08] <tterrag> then WHY don't you know the type??

L1621[22:17:25] <killjoy> I don't know it as in it's not constant

L1622[22:17:36] <tterrag> you just said it's declared Value<Foo>

L1623[22:17:37] <tterrag> so it's constant

L1624[22:18:10] <killjoy> I do Value<SomeEnum> enumVal; Value<Boolean> someBool;

L1625[22:18:16] <Drullkus> > Line 5

L1626[22:18:18] <Drullkus> "pony"

L1627[22:18:22] <Drullkus> > closes pastebin

L1628[22:18:22] <killjoy> Yes

L1629[22:18:31] <killjoy> Hm..

L1630[22:18:36] <killjoy> that should be named value...

L1631[22:18:46] <mezz> lol.

L1632[22:18:50] <killjoy> Curse you eclipse.

L1633[22:19:04] <Drullkus> Join the IntelliJ side. We have cookies.

L1634[22:19:08] <tterrag> killjoy: still, those are constant

L1635[22:19:17] <tterrag> gson can know the type by reading the class by reflection

L1636[22:19:23] <tterrag> explicit variable types are not erased

L1637[22:19:58] <killjoy> I figured out how to do it by looking at gson's array deserializer

L1638[22:20:31] <tterrag> and what you have works, yes, but it's INCREDIBLY backwards, and from what I know, unnecessary

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L1640[22:22:09] <Drullkus> \o Poppy

L1641[22:22:30] <Poppy> o/ Drullkus

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L1643[22:26:38] <MattDahEpic> Drullkus, intellij is best

L1644[22:26:51] <Drullkus> IntelliJ 10/10 best IDE

L1645[22:27:05] <MattDahEpic> have you upped to 15 yet?

L1646[22:27:12] <MattDahEpic> or still on 14

L1647[22:27:27] <Drullkus> Oh, 15 is out now?...wow

L1648[22:27:28] <Drullkus> XD

L1649[22:27:42] <Drullkus> First time hearing it lol

L1650[22:27:43] <MattDahEpic> ima wait a 15 release or 2

L1651[22:29:32] <tterrag> killjoy: I just verified it myself

L1652[22:29:39] <tterrag> http://puu.sh/l8Iem.txt

L1653[22:29:41] <tterrag> works fine

L1654[22:30:36] <killjoy> What was the output?

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L1656[22:30:43] <tterrag> Test(stringValue=Test.Value(value=Test!), pointValue=Test.Value(value=java.awt.Point[x=1,y=2]))

L1657[22:30:59] <tterrag> (after adding @ToString to the class)

L1658[22:31:29] <killjoy> I mean the json

L1659[22:31:40] <tterrag> the json?

L1660[22:31:42] <tterrag> sec

L1661[22:31:49] <tterrag> {"stringValue":{"value":"Test!"},"pointValue":{"value":{"x":1,"y":2}}}

L1662[22:32:05] <tterrag> do you override toString() in your enum?

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L1664[22:32:08] <tterrag> that will break gson

L1665[22:32:24] <tterrag> because it uses toString() to write the enum then can't look it back up with valueOf

L1666[22:32:45] <killjoy> I want {"stringValue:"Test!","pointValue:{"x":1,"y":2}}

L1667[22:33:18] <tterrag> uhh

L1668[22:33:23] <tterrag> then why are you using a wrapper class

L1669[22:33:31] <killjoy> I want to pass the ref

L1670[22:33:49] <tterrag> ok well

L1671[22:33:52] <tterrag> what you want is possible

L1672[22:34:02] <tterrag> you just need a JsonSerializer/JsonDeserializer for the value

L1673[22:34:18] <tterrag> and just return a JsonPrimitive instead of JsonObject

L1674[22:34:42] <killjoy> Serializing wasn't the issue for me

L1675[22:34:47] <killjoy> It was deserializing

L1676[22:34:57] <tterrag> how did you get it to serialize like you want?

L1677[22:35:09] <killjoy> cast type to ParameterizedType

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L1679[22:35:21] <tterrag> pls...just write a serializer/deserializer

L1680[22:35:26] <tterrag> it solves your problem and doesn't lose the runtime type

L1681[22:36:52] <tterrag> killjoy: but if you want to pass by ref...and you are only using enums/booleans...those are immutable

L1682[22:36:55] <tterrag> so why do you have this class again?

L1683[22:37:30] <killjoy> abstractifying config guis

L1684[22:37:51] <killjoy> This used to be just a property map

L1685[22:38:37] <tterrag> ok, well still, just use the serializer/deserializer

L1686[22:39:25] <killjoy> Well at least it's less lines

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L1688[22:51:08] <tterrag> killjoy: I see what you mean with the parameterized type

L1689[22:51:13] <tterrag> this is all you need http://puu.sh/l8JgG.txt

L1690[22:51:26] <killjoy> That's exactly what I did.

L1691[22:51:34] <tterrag> and then I just use Gson gson = new GsonBuilder().registerTypeAdapter(Value.class, new Serializer()).create();

L1692[22:51:35] <tterrag> ok, good

L1693[22:51:45] <tterrag> *nothing* else special is required, to be clear

L1694[22:51:46] <killjoy> I'm not clueless

L1695[22:51:47] <tterrag> no type adapter magic

L1696[22:52:12] <killjoy> Though I did also add the enumtypeadapter

L1697[22:52:23] <tterrag> why is that needed?

L1698[22:52:33] <killjoy> I don't like uppercase enums in my jsons

L1699[22:52:42] <killjoy> They're just icky

L1700[22:52:48] <tterrag> ah, yeah

L1701[22:53:44] <tterrag> killjoy: actually I made a mistake, though you probably already have it fixed

L1702[22:53:58] <tterrag> not return context.deserialize(...) but return new Value(context.deserialize(...))

L1703[22:54:03] <tterrag> ignore rawtypes :p

L1704[22:54:14] <killjoy> Yeah

L1705[22:54:36] <tterrag> {"stringValue":"Test!","pointValue":{"x":1,"y":2}}

L1706[22:54:36] <tterrag> Test(stringValue=Test.Value(value=Test!), pointValue=Test.Value(value=java.awt.Point[x=1,y=2]))

L1707[22:54:38] <tterrag> gson is magic \o/

L1708[22:54:45] <killjoy> I was just thinking that

L1709[22:54:51] <killjoy> They say computers are made of smoke

L1710[22:55:01] <killjoy> If it escapes, it stops working

L1711[22:55:18] <killjoy> *run on smok

L1712[22:55:18] <tterrag> gson really is magic though

L1713[22:55:23] <tterrag> go do this:

L1714[22:55:39] <tterrag> create a class, give it a non-default constructor, and give it some final fields which are initialized at declaration

L1715[22:55:46] <tterrag> then deserialize to it

L1716[22:55:50] <tterrag> the final fields will be NULL

L1717[22:56:00] <killjoy> I've experienced that

L1718[22:56:10] <tterrag> black magic

L1719[22:56:17] <tterrag> (actually it's just sun.misc.Unsafe)

L1720[22:57:56] <killjoy> https://github.com/killjoy1221/TabbyChat-2/blob/master/src/main/java/mnm/mods/tabbychat/ChatChannel.java#L151

L1721[22:58:02] <killjoy> And my workaround for it

L1722[22:58:11] <killjoy> I had to definalize it

L1723[22:59:11] <tterrag> workaround is to add a default constructor :P

L1724[22:59:36] <killjoy> because it calls the one using null?

L1725[23:00:08] <tterrag> gson needs a default constructor

L1726[23:02:16] <killjoy> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_smoke

L1727[23:02:52] <killjoy> Smokeless CPUs are incompatible with the linux kernel and it is doubted that any work will ever be performed to change this. They are simply too unreliable in even the most standard system configuration. Those with a CPU missing its Magic Smoke should switch to a new CPU.

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L1738[23:24:35] <tterrag> what is paper generally registered to in the oredict?

L1739[23:24:40] <tterrag> itemPaper?

L1740[23:25:30] <killjoy> Is there a usage statistics mod?

L1741[23:26:02] <killjoy> Something that anonymously records what mods are used, items, things that are registered, etc.

L1742[23:26:11] <Cypher121> forge doesn't register paper at all, so no idea how mods do it

L1743[23:26:25] <Cypher121> but probably itemPaper

L1744[23:26:37] <tterrag> that's why I'm asking

L1745[23:26:46] <tterrag> anyone have a heavily modded instance they can load up?

L1746[23:27:07] <killjoy> Found one named paperEmpty

L1747[23:27:12] <killjoy> https://github.com/search?q=paper+oredict&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93

L1748[23:27:13] <tterrag> lol

L1749[23:27:19] <Cypher121> infinity + about 40 other mods

L1750[23:27:27] <Cypher121> no oreDict names at all

L1751[23:27:31] <Cypher121> =\

L1752[23:27:48] <Poppy> itemPaper sounds logical to me, who knows, it might catch on

L1753[23:27:50] <Poppy> :D

L1754[23:28:21] <Poppy> what are the strings for toolClass in setHarvest level?

L1755[23:28:35] <Poppy> axe, pickaxe, shovel, sword?

L1756[23:29:02] <killjoy> This guy just names it paper. https://github.com/TheBlepTeam/Modular-Technology/blob/master/src/main/java/com/blue/modtech/reference/Names.java#L54

L1757[23:29:28] <killjoy> found another "materialPaper"

L1758[23:29:58] <killjoy> I like that one

L1759[23:31:33] <tterrag> just loaded up TPPI2, no oredict name

L1760[23:31:38] <tterrag> there's a lot of mods in that pack...

L1761[23:32:01] <killjoy> I've seen about 3 mods so far that give it an oredict

L1762[23:32:04] <killjoy> All different

L1763[23:32:31] <tterrag> lol

L1764[23:32:41] <tterrag> screw it I'll just check the item

L1765[23:32:47] <tterrag> if it ever becomes a problem I'll fix it

L1766[23:32:52] <killjoy> There should be a standard

L1767[23:32:59] <tterrag> shapeMaterial

L1768[23:33:07] <tterrag> but a lot of times the "shape" can't be agreed on

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