OCLogs: 2015-10-20.log

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L17[00:20:05] <sham1> \o

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L29[00:55:13] <Cypher121> o/

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L53[01:52:02] <Cazzar> Am I too harsh on myself? http://upload.cazzar.net/u/1445323899

L54[01:54:12] <Cazzar> Also, Wuppy I may not have been doing this for the last few hours: http://upload.cazzar.net/u/1445324041

L55[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20151020 mappings to Forge Maven.

L56[02:00:06] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20151020-1.8.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20151020" in build.gradle).

L57[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L75[02:38:02] <flappy> Cazzar: 16px tewi?

L76[02:38:18] <Cazzar> Custom font.

L77[02:38:18] <flappy> tewi has one flaw to me

L78[02:38:22] <flappy> the M

L79[02:38:36] <flappy> assuming you mean the bitmap font

L80[02:38:58] <Cazzar> This: http://upload.cazzar.net/u/1445326736

L81[02:39:10] <Cazzar> I'm just re-writing a page :P

L82[02:39:54] <flappy> https://github.com/Lucy/tewi-font is where i grabbed my copy

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L96[03:33:36] <Wuppy> nice Cazzar :D

L97[03:33:56] <Cypher121> how's cypher.coffee for domain name?

L98[03:35:06] <sham1> Heh

L99[03:35:11] <sham1> I liek

L100[03:38:49] <sham1> Anyway

L101[03:39:13] <sham1> I propably should get working on making my machine sides configurable

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L103[03:39:35] <sham1> Which means using ISmartModel, wish me luck

L104[03:40:45] <sham1> Because rotatable + configurable sides = sad sham

L105[03:41:24] <Wuppy> Cypher121, why not cyph.er

L106[03:41:29] <Cypher121> meh

L107[03:41:46] <Wuppy> everybody is doing it at this point :P

L108[03:41:47] <sham1> Lol wuppy

L109[03:42:06] <sham1> am.sh

L110[03:42:20] <Wuppy> nucl.ai for example is a cool new website

L111[03:44:01] <Cypher121> http://www.rwgusa.net/er.htm

L112[03:44:10] <Cypher121> er is not available

L113[03:44:30] <Wuppy> oh, I hadn't checked

L114[03:44:39] <Wuppy> but at this point almost all of them are used :P

L115[03:44:50] <Cypher121> damn squatters

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L118[03:47:25] <auenfx4> cyp.here

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L120[03:50:33] <sham1> So yeah

L121[03:55:17] <auenfx4> Cypher121, .er aparently exists in some form...

L122[03:55:23] <Cypher121> it does

L123[03:55:28] <Cypher121> but registration is locked

L124[03:55:41] <Cypher121> anyway, got my .coffee already

L125[03:55:42] <auenfx4> yup

L126[03:55:53] <auenfx4> your next option would be to hope for a .her ;)

L127[03:55:57] <auenfx4> which doesnt exist atm

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L137[04:44:38] <Subaraki> could anyone bare with me and explain me the PlayerDropsEvent

L138[04:44:42] <Subaraki> ?

L139[04:44:59] <Subaraki> uhm, diesieben07 :D I choose you ^^

L140[04:45:09] <Subaraki> so i got my event working from yesterday

L141[04:45:18] <Subaraki> it was another of my mods that interventioned with it

L142[04:45:35] <Subaraki> so i changed it to properly hook into the drops event

L143[04:45:49] <sham1> I think it gives you the drops in a list

L144[04:45:53] <Subaraki> now, when i die, it does drop it

L145[04:45:54] <sham1> And then you can add yours in them

L146[04:45:58] <Subaraki> it does ! :) it does give a list

L147[04:46:03] <Subaraki> and i do add in mine

L148[04:46:17] <Subaraki> the problem is, whenever i place a grave in my gravestone mod, and get the items in there

L149[04:46:21] <Subaraki> its either vanilla inventory

L150[04:46:27] <Subaraki> OR my personal inventory

L151[04:46:33] <Subaraki> oddly enough...

L152[04:47:00] <Subaraki> now, i found a fix for that, because i used a snipet of TCon's code to add my inventory's contents to the drops list

L153[04:47:28] <Subaraki> now i'm scared that my gravestone wont work with tcons code

L154[04:47:31] <Subaraki> see what i mean ?

L155[04:47:35] <Subaraki> lemme show you how tcon does it

L156[04:47:41] <Subaraki> https://github.com/SlimeKnights/TinkersConstruct/blob/master/src/main/java/tconstruct/armor/player/TPlayerHandler.java#L267-L280

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L158[04:47:59] <Wuppy> so I'm wondering

L159[04:48:05] <Wuppy> sometimes my pc suddenly starts acting like shit

L160[04:48:11] <Wuppy> and then I restart my pc

L161[04:48:23] <Wuppy> and 99.9% of the time, windows wants to install updates during the restart

L162[04:48:30] <Subaraki> really ?

L163[04:48:31] <Wuppy> does windows do that on purpose?

L164[04:48:32] <Subaraki> odd ._.

L165[04:48:38] <Subaraki> most likely

L166[04:49:24] <dvntsix> it's not done, but would you guys change anything? http://i.imgur.com/kXysf3U.png

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L168[04:49:34] <sham1> Wow

L169[04:49:38] <sham1> Seriously

L170[04:49:44] <sham1> Stop making so good looking stuff

L171[04:49:48] <sham1> Makes me feel bad

L172[04:50:04] <Subaraki> damn son O.O

L173[04:50:07] <Subaraki> thas pretty !

L174[04:50:13] <Subaraki> here's the code i used that does work

L175[04:50:14] <Subaraki> http://i.imgur.com/JZkS1Gc.png

L176[04:51:16] <Subaraki> sham1 wouldn't know what could cause the problem ? :/

L177[04:51:34] <sham1> Let me see

L178[04:53:05] <sham1> I seriously have no idea

L179[04:53:19] <sham1> Maybe your event fires before TCon

L180[04:53:39] <sham1> That might actually be it

L181[04:53:49] <sham1> Put your event handler into the lowest priority

L182[04:53:54] <sham1> Then try again

L183[04:54:23] <Subaraki> i tried that already :/

L184[04:54:59] <sham1> Try it again

L185[04:55:28] <Subaraki> i think it then only either shows my inventory. and if i put it to highest, only the custom inventory

L186[04:55:39] <Subaraki> maybe i should loop it or what ?

L187[04:57:19] <Subaraki> wait, here's the thing

L188[04:57:39] <Subaraki> if priority is lowest, the vanilla inventory is gone. and the inventory items get dropped

L189[04:57:44] <Subaraki> damn this sucks man :/

L190[04:57:54] <sham1> why nit both

L191[04:58:16] <sham1> have both low and high

L192[04:58:27] <sham1> You should be able to get the grave anyway and put it in there

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L203[05:00:55] <sham1> yay

L204[05:01:14] <sham1> at least that was not terrible netsplit

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L206[05:02:13] <Subaraki> sham1, can you set priority to both high AND low ? :o

L207[05:02:28] <sham1> 2 different handlers m8

L208[05:02:46] <Subaraki> ooooooh

L209[05:02:50] <Subaraki> yeah, strak plan :)

L210[05:03:10] <sham1> so yeah

L211[05:04:01] <sham1> if it works, it is valid

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L218[05:24:33] <Wuppy> hmm 99% cpu makes your pc kinda slow :P

L219[05:28:11] <sham1> Yep

L220[05:28:15] <xaero> renice -n 10 -p `pgrep offending_program`

L221[05:28:23] <xaero> make it play nicely :P

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L223[05:29:35] <Wuppy> what does that do?

L224[05:29:39] <Wuppy> cap it at 10%?

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L227[05:30:36] <Wuppy> I still dont understand why people want more than 8GB ram in their pc

L228[05:30:49] <Wuppy> I'm running an insane amount of programs and ram isn't even nearly an issue

L229[05:31:50] <xaero> nah make it have lower priority when considered for CPU timeshare (-20 is highest priority, 20 is lowest)

L230[05:32:37] <xaero> though there are programs that limit CPU % if you want that instead

L231[05:33:24] <xaero> re RAM, how many browser tabs do you have open?

L232[05:34:08] <xaero> I have 4 GB of RAM and regularly swap 2 GB more... I'd imagine I could fill 8 GB easy

L233[05:34:37] * fry easily fills 12GB

L234[05:34:44] <fry> there's never enough RAM

L235[05:36:39] <sham1> 100GB RAM would be awesome

L236[05:36:49] <sham1> Assuming IO ports can handle it

L237[05:36:54] <Wuppy> fry, I've got perforce, chrome, skype, hexchat, unreal and visual studio open

L238[05:36:55] <sham1> And your CPU can make use of it

L239[05:37:01] <Wuppy> under 5GB

L240[05:37:09] <fry> for about a week, then it'll not enough again :P

L241[05:37:40] <Wuppy> "it will not enough again" - fry

L242[05:38:06] <sham1> Yay

L243[05:38:35] <fry> http://i.imgur.com/TybTuTL.gifv

L244[05:39:04] <Wuppy> dafuq

L245[05:39:32] <sham1> OH NO NOT THE BEES

L246[05:39:34] <sham1> NOT THE BEES

L247[05:39:48] <fry> OH GOD MY EYES

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L249[05:45:43] <sham1> God damn it

L250[05:45:50] <sham1> I dont remember how to find classes in idea

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L252[05:46:33] <sham1> ctrl+n...

L253[05:47:43] <Nitrodev> wow sham

L254[05:47:52] <Nitrodev> and i let you help me make my mod

L255[05:48:22] <sham1> :P

L256[05:48:30] <sham1> I just didnt remember the hotkey god damn it

L257[05:48:58] <sham1> Also, I find it nice that you get worldRenderer in RenderParticle

L258[05:49:07] <sham1> I can render ghost blocks using that

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L265[06:06:33] <TomWolf> About the ram discussion, I use 16 GB ram and at rare times I find myself in need of a bit more.

L266[06:10:12] <sham1> :P

L267[06:10:15] <sham1> Lucky you

L268[06:10:26] <sham1> My desktop has 6 GB and my laptop has 8 GB

L269[06:10:36] <sham1> #FirstWorldProblems

L270[06:14:30] <Wuppy> hmm I should've gone witha 500GB SSD

L271[06:14:57] <Wuppy> I don't have much space left on it anymore

L272[06:15:04] <Wuppy> damn programming stuff taking up so much romo

L273[06:15:48] <Wuppy> especially Sony and Epic enjoy eating space

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L275[06:20:24] <masa> yeah everything eats so much memory it is ridiculous... probablly a result on general programmer mentality "RAM is cheap and everyone has several gigs of it, it doesn't matter if we waste some..." -> nobody has enough memory when retarded programs waste all of it

L276[06:20:55] <masa> what happened to the 640 kB is enough for everyone?!

L277[06:21:09] <masa> or whatever

L278[06:22:33] <masa> like for example, Dropbox for me takes around 100 MB on win7 and 198 MB on this Funtoo atm... wtf it is storing that takes so much frickin' space? it shouldn't have to store that much junk permanently on RAM

L279[06:23:04] <masa> it should be like 1 MB max

L280[06:23:41] <masa> then again, each instance of bash is also taking 2.9 MB

L281[06:23:55] <masa> nano is taking 4.4 MB, wtf

L282[06:26:11] <sham1> NANO TAKES 4.4MB

L283[06:26:12] <sham1> Wat

L284[06:27:08] <Wuppy> damn sony installing 60+ programs on my pc :|

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L286[06:30:51] <masa> sham1: well at least the gnome system monitor says so...

L287[06:31:34] <masa> now it takes 1.1 MB when I restarted it to the same file

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L291[06:34:21] <sham1> Umn

L292[06:35:05] <sham1> Also wuppy, why do you install 60+ Sony programs

L293[06:35:22] <Wuppy> because I'm going to work with sony's game engine soon

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L296[06:42:26] <sham1> Anyway

L297[06:43:24] <sham1> *yawn* I have a feeling that me trying to play around with ISmartModel will be dangerous for my mental stability

L298[06:49:45] <TomWolf> SSD does more for general performance than RAM does as long as you don't need the ram for the system to be responsive at all, so SSD > more ram

L299[06:50:08] <masa> yeah

L300[06:50:22] <masa> but the issue still remains that programs eat RAM... :p

L301[06:50:31] <masa> more than they should

L302[06:50:37] <Wuppy> agreed TomWolf

L303[06:50:53] <Wuppy> and that;s true masa, but I've never run out of 8GB yet

L304[06:51:30] <masa> I've only ran out a couple of times when memory leaks in (modded) MC happen

L305[06:52:06] <masa> not sure how that is possible when I have allocated 1 GB or 2 GB or 4 GB to java, depending on the pack or dev environment

L306[06:52:35] <masa> somehow some leaks just eat all RAM without any regard to the java memory allocation

L307[06:52:55] <masa> is that then like a stack space leak or something?

L308[06:53:05] <masa> was the Xmx/Xmx only for heap?

L309[06:53:09] <masa> *Xms

L310[06:53:29] <sham1> How the hell does java have memory leaks

L311[06:53:47] <sham1> I thought that JVM handles memory allocation and stuff

L312[06:54:08] <masa> well if you forget references somewhere then those won't get freed

L313[06:54:28] <sham1> True

L314[06:54:45] <sham1> But it is no problem once the process shutw

L315[06:55:03] <sham1> Because JVM and finally OS will free it

L316[06:55:33] <fry> and the heat death of the universe will free everything, yes

L317[06:55:39] <masa> so I guess like some static stuff or a list somewhere that doesn't get properly freed

L318[06:56:07] <masa> or a map rather maybe

L319[06:56:13] <sham1> That propably is it

L320[06:56:19] <sham1> Also god damn it fry

L321[06:56:51] <LexManos> fry hows the obj shit coing?

L322[06:57:52] <fry> need to review it again

L323[06:58:13] <fry> last time a big issue came up, was fixed since

L324[06:58:15] <LexManos> please get that shit done

L325[06:59:16] <LexManos> spent tonight and fixed some of the non-determinstic shit in ff, gunna go to bed and work on more tomarrow.

L326[07:00:58] <LexManos> once thats done its on to updating :)

L327[07:01:23] <TomWolf> first order of business for anyone who wants to save ram is to stop using adblock or adblock+ and install ublock instead ;)

L328[07:01:54] <TomWolf> adblock/adblock+ are huge ram hogs

L329[07:01:58] <sham1> Does FF support for - each loop now?

L330[07:02:08] <sham1> Using Firefox anyway

L331[07:02:11] <fry> yup

L332[07:02:15] <sham1> Won't effect me

L333[07:02:45] <TomWolf> adblock takes ram if you use it on FF as well

L334[07:03:16] <LexManos> Lets jsut say sham, tho there is a lot of work to do still. You'll soon see why I get annoied at everyone copy/pasting STUPID shit from MC decompiled code, so much better now:P

L335[07:03:29] <sham1> Nice

L336[07:03:55] <sham1> Sounds promising :P

L337[07:04:20] <sham1> As long as we can reduce the stupid, the better

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L353[07:48:01] <TomWolf> What mod has the best mob spawners? (except spawn crystals)

L354[07:50:14] <sham1> EnderIO

L355[07:50:27] <sham1> Or maybe Vanilla

L356[07:50:29] <sham1> I dont know

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L359[07:52:11] <TomWolf> Any idea how Draconic Evolution spawner compare to EnderIO?

L360[07:52:32] <sham1> Never used Draconic Evolution

L361[07:52:39] <sham1> Not gotten far enough in Sky Factory

L362[07:54:06] <TomWolf> experiment time then I guess =) got enderio spawners for my ender pearl farm so I'll try a draconic for my wither skeleton farm

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L370[08:16:30] <barteks2x> I hate it when minecraft hangs and I can't debug it because I can't there is no way to get my mouse back other than kill -9

L371[08:17:15] * fry simply switches tags in awesome, and gets the cursor back that way

L372[08:18:16] <Ivorius> wut

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L374[08:18:18] <Ivorius> cmd tab?

L375[08:19:01] <barteks2x> I tried literally everything. When I had access to second computer I used remote debugging in this case

L376[08:19:26] <Ivorius> lol, I have nothing to say to that

L377[08:19:59] <fry> http://superuser.com/questions/186748/how-to-hide-or-minimize-x11-window-from-console

L378[08:20:17] <fry> or any other results from the 1st page of google :P

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L381[08:25:45] <masa> ugh, so how exactly am I supposed to work with optional interfaces? if I include the @Optional.Interface annotation, then I don't need to ship the API myself, right?

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L383[08:26:26] <masa> but then my build.gradle soesn't actually produce a valid dev environment, since the API is not present after running it...?

L384[08:26:29] <gigaherz> masa: the idea is that you implement the interface as usual

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L386[08:26:45] <gigaherz> you include the api, in the src/api

L387[08:26:52] <gigaherz> so it won't get put into the jar

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L389[08:26:59] <gigaherz> and @optional will make it so that

L390[08:27:02] <gigaherz> if the class doesn't exist

L391[08:27:13] <gigaherz> FML will remove the "implements Interface" bit

L392[08:27:22] <gigaherz> so, the methods WILL be still implemented

L393[08:27:37] <gigaherz> just the class loader won't complain about the interface not found

L394[08:27:43] <masa> ok so the API will then be in the mod workspace and repository, just not in the built jar?

L395[08:27:48] <gigaherz> yup

L396[08:27:51] <masa> ah alright

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L399[08:29:06] <masa> and what is the correct path to put the api in? src/api or src/main/api/ ?

L400[08:29:23] <masa> or is src/main/api for the API of my mod if it has one?

L401[08:32:23] <barteks2x> I tried to use jstack.. and linux refused to work after that. I had to reboot

L402[08:32:23] <gigaherz> src/api/java/

L403[08:32:24] <gigaherz> for non-jar-included apis

L404[08:32:24] <gigaherz> and src/main/java/ for jar-included ones

L405[08:32:42] <masa> ok, thanks

L406[08:33:28] <masa> hmm

L407[08:34:07] <masa> src/main/java for jar-included ones? what does that mean exactly?

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L409[08:37:34] <masa> also, how should I go about the IEnergyReceiver API from CoFHLib? CoFHLib itself is not a mod, right? so what would I give to Opitonal.Interface as the modid? which mod would actually be responsible for providing the API?

L410[08:39:06] <gigaherz> you can just include the api, fml will take care of removing duplicates

L411[08:39:09] <gigaherz> all you have to ensure

L412[08:39:10] <barteks2x> also, the stackoverflow answer doesn't really help getting my mouse back

L413[08:39:22] <gigaherz> is that you include ALL of the classes in the packages you import

L414[08:41:51] <masa> mmkay, and I can just have for example the cofh.api.energy package part of the cofh api? and if I include it, what path would I then place it in? inside src/main/ somewhere?

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L421[09:02:19] <Wuppy> finally decided to actually buy Diablo 3... this gun be good :D

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L431[09:17:18] <blood|work> Wuppy: only took you 4 years...

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L433[09:17:41] <Wuppy> hehe

L434[09:17:46] <Wuppy> I'm catching up with games atm

L435[09:17:52] <Wuppy> finally have a really good pc

L436[09:18:03] <Wuppy> and it's not like it's no longer played/updated

L437[09:18:14] <Wuppy> or that there are any more recent alternatives

L438[09:18:26] <blood|work> game died when they removed trading completely

L439[09:18:58] <blood|work> sure people still play but it is nothing like launch days

L440[09:19:01] <sham1> And made it, you know, bad

L441[09:19:19] <blood|work> making $200 selling an item i dont consider bad :P

L442[09:19:40] <blood|work> and the game is carebear city now with loot

L443[09:19:46] <blood|work> i miss the old loot system =)

L444[09:19:55] <boni> Wuppy: i hope you also got RoS.

L445[09:20:06] <boni> blood|work: D3 on release was cancer.

L446[09:20:13] <Wuppy> I'm not rich :<

L447[09:20:14] <boni> and the cancer was the AH

L448[09:20:17] <blood|work> loot was guaranteed to drop with the attributes your character required

L449[09:20:20] <blood|work> wasnt*

L450[09:20:36] <boni> so? now you only find potentially useful items for yourself :P

L451[09:20:57] <boni> Wuppy: but then you'll be missing out of.. basically all the content besides the 4/5 of the campaign

L452[09:21:02] <blood|work> killed the grind

L453[09:21:13] <blood|work> you can get all the loot you want easily now

L454[09:21:23] <boni> blood|work: you obiously haven't played D3 in a long time :P

L455[09:21:46] <Wuppy> meh I was just looking for a game like Torchlight which I haven't played yet

L456[09:21:47] <blood|work> boni: go try multiboxing

L457[09:21:52] <Wuppy> because I like thos games

L458[09:21:54] <boni> no? why would i

L459[09:21:58] <blood|work> as i said, you can get all the loot youw ant easily

L460[09:22:11] <blood|work> the game is a joke

L461[09:22:22] <boni> the game is actually good now. :D

L462[09:22:46] <boni> if by "joke" you mean "doesn't require 400h to get an ancient set"..then yes

L463[09:23:35] <blood|work> PoE is better

L464[09:23:45] <blood|work> if you want a better game Wuppy, go play PoE

L465[09:23:52] <Wuppy> POE?

L466[09:24:01] <blood|work> not that carebear garbage diablo is

L467[09:24:05] <blood|work> Path of Exile

L468[09:24:09] <Wuppy> meh

L469[09:24:21] <boni> last time i played PoE it was pretty meh compared to D3

L470[09:24:25] <blood|work> not even close

L471[09:24:27] <boni> but then again, i'm not multiboxing :P

L472[09:24:29] <blood|work> look at the skill system

L473[09:24:37] <blood|work> then go look at diablo's carebear system

L474[09:24:57] <boni> you mean.. where i can actually switch things up and have fun?

L475[09:25:05] <boni> and have legendaries that modify the skills to keep things interesting?

L476[09:25:20] <blood|work> still doesnt even come close to the amount of combinations you acn do in PoE

L477[09:25:22] <boni> nothing like going chicken-farming with manajumas :3

L478[09:25:23] <blood|work> there is no comparison

L479[09:25:25] <blood|work> none at all

L480[09:25:35] <boni> complexity != depth

L481[09:25:45] <boni> juts because it has tons of combinations doesn't automatically mean it's interesting.

L482[09:26:02] <blood|work> requiring you to think more doesnt make it more complex

L483[09:26:22] <boni> does PoE even have the ability to reskill your stuff?

L484[09:26:26] <blood|work> of course

L485[09:28:15] <karlthepagan> path of exile's final fantasy talent tree? nice gimmick, but this is a bit offtopic

L486[09:29:33] <blood|work> Fallout 4 will be epic i hope =)

L487[09:30:01] <gigaherz> NICEE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE

L488[09:30:23] <karlthepagan> so last night I was playing with authentication from forge right when the servers were having problems

L489[09:30:30] <karlthepagan> I thought I got banned for doing it wrong

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L493[09:33:20] <blood|work> yea the auth servers decided to go on a break for a bit

L494[09:33:25] <gigaherz> karlthepagan: lol

L495[09:34:03] <karlthepagan> "hey this IP is using bad parameters for auth... better firewall block him"

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L498[09:34:43] <TTFTCUTS> meh, I accidentally bombarded them with requests more than once, it's ok

L499[09:35:09] <karlthepagan> well NOW I know that's fine ;) but my wife works on application firewalls... and well, that's what they do

L500[09:35:27] <karlthepagan> so it's not a bank, I guess XD

L501[09:35:44] <gigaherz> yeah

L502[09:36:11] <gigaherz> you don't normally get ip-banned just for a dozen bad requests

L503[09:36:13] <karlthepagan> the panic ended after I went to help.mojang.com

L504[09:36:25] <gigaherz> you do get ip-banned if you send a thousand invalid requests over an hour

L505[09:36:35] <karlthepagan> good to know

L506[09:36:37] <gigaherz> it's just a matter of how much you look like an active attacker

L507[09:36:44] <gigaherz> I mean in general terms

L508[09:36:46] <karlthepagan> aye

L509[09:36:59] <gigaherz> if you get the IT guy to notice you or not

L510[09:37:00] <gigaherz> ;P

L511[09:37:14] <gigaherz> no idea how paranoid Mojang's "it guy" is

L512[09:37:14] <gigaherz> ;p

L513[09:38:03] <TTFTCUTS> aren't most of their services hosted through amazon?

L514[09:38:28] <TTFTCUTS> so their capacity for being accidentally hit with stuff is probably huge

L515[09:38:43] <karlthepagan> wife's product, and most of the competition works with AWS yeah

L516[09:38:58] <karlthepagan> it's not about DoS, it's about finding application-level intrusions

L517[09:39:06] <TTFTCUTS> yeah

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L519[09:39:39] <TTFTCUTS> I realised once I was accidentally spamming requests every tick to the skin servers, they just deny requests after a little while

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L521[09:40:13] <karlthepagan> hah

L522[09:40:34] <karlthepagan> skin servers and server status aren't authenticated, but yea... they're not as paranoid

L523[09:40:41] <TTFTCUTS> yeah

L524[09:40:58] <karlthepagan> probably a balancing act - lots of kids would get angry if the service seemed unreliable because they were too cautious

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L533[10:03:40] <TomWolf> Hmm, using item conduits, is there an easy way to split a stack of items into three containers?

L534[10:03:54] <sham1> round robin?

L535[10:04:28] <karlthepagan> make a tree with a virtual container & conduit IMO

L536[10:04:37] <karlthepagan> if you can balance the split 1/3 & 2/3 that is

L537[10:04:44] <sham1> Or use rationing pipes

L538[10:04:50] <sham1> From extra utilities

L539[10:05:47] <sham1> Also, yay for sunset

L540[10:05:51] <sham1> F.lux will kick in...

L541[10:06:18] <TomWolf> round robin in conduits? virtual container?

L542[10:06:44] <sham1> Take notes

L543[10:06:45] <sham1> http://ftbwiki.org/Servo_%28Thermal_Dynamics%29

L544[10:07:14] <sham1> Especially the user interface one

L545[10:08:01] <TomWolf> thanks

L546[10:08:19] <sham1> And now to play with ISmartModel

L547[10:08:22] <sham1> Oh joy

L548[10:08:26] <gigaherz> item conduits are the enderIO ones, though?

L549[10:08:35] <TomWolf> works the same

L550[10:08:38] <TomWolf> like a sharm

L551[10:08:40] <gigaherz> servos are for itemducts ;P

L552[10:08:42] <sham1> Yes

L553[10:08:43] <TomWolf> thanks everyone

L554[10:08:48] <sham1> He could switch it off to itemducts

L555[10:09:08] <sham1> Impulse or enderduct

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L620[13:00:16] <sham1> \o

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L631[13:39:26] <Wuppy> o/

L632[13:41:31] <Nitrodev> \o

L633[13:43:14] <gigaherz> o\

L634[13:44:25] <sham1> Well that took just 45 mins

L635[13:44:29] <sham1> Nice

L636[13:44:41] <Wuppy> was playing diablo 3 :3

L637[13:48:44] <karlthepagan> anyone want to review some over-engineered event processing code?

L638[13:49:15] <sham1> Sure

L639[13:49:15] <karlthepagan> if you've done low-level evented rules or IO systems from the ground up I'd love to hear from you

L640[13:49:23] <karlthepagan> if not, i'll still listen :)

L641[13:49:48] <karlthepagan> https://github.com/karlthepagan/forge-spyeventbus sham1 :)

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L644[13:50:53] <karlthepagan> there's a lot of architectural tricks there that i'd be happy to explain

L645[13:52:56] <karlthepagan> sham1, oops, forgot to update readme - the eventual goal is to put easy to write user rules in spyeventbus.yml

L646[13:55:47] <karlthepagan> \o/ just realized that I can now rely on class hierarchy in my default rules

L647[14:09:25] <Subaraki> can you change slot layout when the container is open ?

L648[14:09:47] <diesieben07> sure you can

L649[14:11:05] <Subaraki> how would i trigger it ? :P

L650[14:11:08] <Subaraki> P: *

L651[14:11:47] <tterrag> there is an update method for your GUI

L652[14:11:55] <Subaraki> hmm ?

L653[14:12:09] <Subaraki> in that method, call the container again ?

L654[14:12:46] <tterrag> no, just move the slots...

L655[14:12:58] <Subaraki> oh

L656[14:13:02] <Subaraki> oki

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L658[14:15:14] <Wuppy> is anyone here doing the nucl.ai online course?

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L660[14:25:40] <boni> What're the usual tools for creating mc models besides techne?

L661[14:26:10] <tterrag> tabula by ichun is pretty good

L662[14:26:13] <tterrag> better than techne for sure

L663[14:26:17] <tterrag> otherwise just use blender or something

L664[14:27:11] <boni> Firedingo: ^

L665[14:27:22] <boni> can tabula export to code?

L666[14:27:32] <tterrag> yeah, pretty sure

L667[14:30:34] <boni> anyway, thx tterrag o/

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L691[15:08:36] <Nitrodev> i should go back into modding

L692[15:08:46] <Nitrodev> this time i'll try NOT to delete the code

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L694[15:10:36] <heldplayer> Yeah, that sounds like a great idea ^^

L695[15:11:32] <Nitrodev> yeah last time i deleted the code AND everything else related to the mod with github

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L698[15:17:37] <gigaherz> so I have been pondering a mod

L699[15:17:46] <gigaherz> to make oversized chests

L700[15:17:47] <gigaherz> as in

L701[15:17:55] <gigaherz> NxNxN multiblock structures

L702[15:18:02] <gigaherz> that take on the look of a standard chest, just bigger

L703[15:18:04] <tterrag> sooo betterstorage crates?

L704[15:18:14] <gigaherz> nono

L705[15:18:18] <gigaherz> physically oversized

L706[15:18:19] <gigaherz> XD

L707[15:18:26] <gigaherz> with TESR animation and all

L708[15:19:08] <gigaherz> just like, imagine a single chest that's 10x10x10 in size, and has 10x10x10 chests' worth of storage inside

L709[15:20:25] <gigaherz> but still animates the lid opening when anyone uses it

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L712[15:23:25] <Ordinastie> gigaherz, I think you should have better things to do with your time :p

L713[15:23:26] <Cypher121> gigaherz: don't forget to scale up opening sound volume

L714[15:23:58] <gigaherz> Ordinastie: oh I do

L715[15:24:15] <gigaherz> I'm planning to release my game within the week

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L717[15:24:48] <gigaherz> I wasn't going to code that right now

L718[15:25:09] <gigaherz> just been pondering it -- it's the way I deal with stress, I think of other stuff that issn't so stressing

L719[15:25:15] <gigaherz> -s

L720[15:25:51] <Ordinastie> I kid you not, I read "interesting" instead of "stressing" ><

L721[15:26:03] <gigaherz> heh

L722[15:28:44] <minecreatr> what is a call I can make from a static context to see if the code is running on the clientside or server side?

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L726[15:30:08] <Cypher121> !!gm getEffectiveSide

L727[15:30:09] <MCPBot_Reborn> No results found.

L728[15:30:12] <Cypher121> meh

L729[15:30:25] <tterrag> that's a forge method

L730[15:30:29] <tterrag> minecreatr: why do you need to do that

L731[15:30:33] <tterrag> chances are it's bad design

L732[15:31:16] <tterrag> minecreatr: it's bad design to need to check the side without world context

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L734[15:31:49] <minecreatr> I need to know whether to call some client only code in pre init

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L736[15:32:46] <tterrag> minecreatr: event.getSide()

L737[15:33:08] <unascribed> if this client-only code includes an import, you'll need to do it in your proxy

L738[15:33:17] <tterrag> imports don't exist

L739[15:33:39] <unascribed> imports are an easy way to tell if the ASM patching hax in Forge will try to load the class

L740[15:33:51] <tterrag> except not at all

L741[15:33:57] <minecreatr> I dont have access to the pre init event tterrag

L742[15:34:03] <tterrag> why

L743[15:34:12] <minecreatr> becuase the way the code is structured I dont

L744[15:34:18] <minecreatr> and I know there is a static call

L745[15:34:25] <minecreatr> just forgot what it is

L746[15:34:35] <tterrag> why not just pass the event through?

L747[15:34:51] <tterrag> *sigh* if you must it's FMLCommonHandler.instance().get(Effective)Side()

L748[15:35:01] <Ordinastie> FMLCommonHandler.instance().getSide()

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L750[15:35:18] <minecreatr> I could pass it through if I can do the static call

L751[15:35:24] <minecreatr> I only need the side

L752[15:35:29] <tterrag> the way those calls work is counterintuitive though, and you're best off not using them

L753[15:35:33] <minecreatr> and the code needs to be known in an objects constructor

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L755[15:35:47] <tterrag> again, this sounds like poor design

L756[15:35:53] <minecreatr> its a bit wierd to pass in fmpreinitalization event to an object constructor

L757[15:36:42] <tterrag> needing to know server/client state in a constructor...why

L758[15:36:45] <Ordinastie> pass the side directly then

L759[15:37:09] <Ordinastie> but answer tterrag's question first

L760[15:38:32] <gigaherz> minecreatr: why not call the proxy instead of a static method? then the proxy itself "knows" if it's the client or not

L761[15:38:51] <gigaherz> (knows as in, the right proxy will be loaded so there's no need to know at all)

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L763[15:39:11] <tterrag> gigaherz: again that can be counterintuitive

L764[15:39:13] <minecreatr> because the object needs to be able to have a client and server component

L765[15:39:24] <tterrag> it won't tell you the thread side, only the jar side

L766[15:39:30] <gigaherz> wait

L767[15:39:33] <gigaherz> before anything

L768[15:39:56] <gigaherz> minecreatr: the "side" refers only to wether the mod is being loaded on a dedicated jar or not

L769[15:40:10] <gigaherz> dedicated server*

L770[15:40:16] <minecreatr> yeah

L771[15:40:22] <minecreatr> and I need to call client code

L772[15:40:29] <minecreatr> but if its on a server it crashes

L773[15:40:29] <gigaherz> yes, that's what the proxy is for

L774[15:40:32] <minecreatr> so I need to check

L775[15:40:39] <minecreatr> but I need to call the code in a constructor of a class

L776[15:40:52] <gigaherz> just have some Yourmod.proxy.theMethod()

L777[15:41:06] <gigaherz> and implement it differently on client and server

L778[15:41:09] <tterrag> maybe just post the code?

L779[15:41:14] <minecreatr> its not like that....

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L781[15:42:10] <minecreatr> I have a list of objects within that object

L782[15:42:20] <minecreatr> and there is a client version and a server version

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L784[15:42:26] <minecreatr> I need to know which one to initalize

L785[15:42:54] <gigaherz> sure, and oyu can have proxy.initializeTheThing() which either calls TheThing.initializeClient() or TheThing.initializeServer()

L786[15:43:50] <tterrag> gigaherz has the right idea

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L796[16:22:39] <Ivorius> wtf

L797[16:23:18] <Ivorius> Why can't I find a single sha256 hash that starts with 0x2a, 0x00

L798[16:23:28] <Ivorius> I brute forced like millions

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L803[16:31:38] <gigaherz> Ivorius: surely one out of 65536 (on average) would start with that?

L804[16:31:49] <Ivorius> That's what I'm thinking

L805[16:31:51] <gigaherz> must be a really unlucky run

L806[16:31:51] <gigaherz> XD

L807[16:32:21] <gigaherz> how big are the inputs you are trying to hash?

L808[16:32:36] <Ivorius> It doesn't really matter

L809[16:32:41] <Ivorius> I just need any string

L810[16:32:53] <Ivorius> Well, under size 0x30

L811[16:32:55] <gigaherz> well it does, if you only try hashing 2bit components, you'll only ever get one of the same 4 values ;P

L812[16:33:28] <gigaherz> if you want uniform distribution of output values, you'd need to hash data with at least 2^256 permutations

L813[16:33:42] <gigaherz> combinations*

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L815[16:34:05] <Ivorius> True

L816[16:35:46] <Ivorius> Apparently my code was shit

L817[16:35:48] <Ivorius> Thanks gigaherz

L818[16:35:56] <gigaherz> np

L819[16:38:17] <gigaherz> the reason rainbow tables work, is because they assume that the original hash did come from a relatively short sequence of symbols from a relatively small dictionary

L820[16:38:54] <gigaherz> if all you want is to generate a random collision on binary data, you can't have that assumption

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L824[16:40:27] <Ivorius> I did look at downloading rainbow tables

L825[16:40:35] <Ivorius> But my antivirus thought it was shady

L826[16:41:00] <Ivorius> Besides, 60000 attempts isn't too bad for a brute force, I'm just not really used to fakin c code

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L869[19:26:13] <gigaherz> hmf, so

L870[19:26:18] <gigaherz> another idea I have been pondering

L871[19:26:27] <gigaherz> (it's up for grabs if anyone has the time to code it)

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L873[19:26:49] <gigaherz> suppose a configurable armor/exoskeleton system

L874[19:26:58] <gigaherz> but on a more flexible way

L875[19:27:23] <gigaherz> the most basic tier, would be a harness made out of leather and a bit of iron and string

L876[19:27:37] <Poppy> sham1: hey man, how do you deal with this shit: http://pastebin.com/Jmx0avg8

L877[19:27:42] <gigaherz> the full harness would be 4 pieces for the whole armor set

L878[19:27:44] <gigaherz> but in turn

L879[19:27:48] <gigaherz> it owuld expose a second tab

L880[19:27:50] <gigaherz> to configure each piece

L881[19:27:59] <gigaherz> the harness would support standard armor

L882[19:28:13] <gigaherz> and the ability to add extras

L883[19:28:23] <gigaherz> such as chestpiece + jetpack at the same time

L884[19:28:39] <gigaherz> or backpack, or all 3

L885[19:28:41] <Poppy> I could've sworn I've similar armor already

L886[19:28:48] <gigaherz> depending on the upgrades/tier

L887[19:29:07] <gigaherz> -- yeah part of the reason I explain here, is in case something with the same function already exists

L888[19:29:41] <Poppy> on the other hand, I don't think mods that did this exist anymore

L889[19:29:53] <gigaherz> I'm also imagining things like extra slots for storage

L890[19:30:06] <gigaherz> such as extra backpacks, battery packs for powering energy-enabled stuff

L891[19:30:14] <Poppy> ANYONE, fucked java/scala problem http://pastebin.com/Jmx0avg8 WHAT DO

L892[19:30:50] <gigaherz> Poppy: it has to return "item"

L893[19:31:05] * Poppy slaps his forehead

L894[19:31:19] <gigaherz> no idea how you tell scala about the return type, though

L895[19:31:25] <Poppy> oh that's easy

L896[19:32:21] <Poppy> jesus I'm a complete retard, thanks giga

L897[19:33:18] <Poppy> return type in scala are just def methodName(field: Fieldtype): ReturnType = {fieldOfReturnType}

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L900[19:40:26] <karlthepagan> TIL you cannot store a ConcurrentHashMap inside itself

L901[19:40:29] <karlthepagan> (as a key)

L902[19:40:49] <karlthepagan> the map's hashCode is composed of the hashCodes of it's keys and values

L903[19:41:30] <karlthepagan> which was silly of me, just use a dummy constant

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L914[19:58:01] <Cypher121> how the hell 40% of modpack users still use java 7?

L915[19:59:08] <Cypher121> guess I'll have to use some dirty hack for buttons :(

L916[20:01:58] <gigaherz> what java8 feature did you need?

L917[20:03:05] <Cypher121> lambdas/functional interfaces

L918[20:03:19] <Cypher121> want to pass a function that button would call when pressed

L919[20:03:24] <Ivorius> You never 'need' lambda :P

L920[20:03:40] <Cypher121> NO, I'm not using reflection for this shit

L921[20:03:47] <Ivorius> ... wat

L922[20:04:03] <Cypher121> I wanted to keep button code and gui code separate

L923[20:04:43] <Ivorius> lambdas just translate to anon classes

L924[20:04:53] <Cypher121> now I'll have to check if button was pressed from gui code and call method from gui. Button is irrelevant at that point

L925[20:04:54] <Ivorius> (not 1/1, but you get the idea)

L926[20:05:21] <Cypher121> functional interfaces allow passing functions as arguments

L927[20:06:06] <Ivorius> No, they don't

L928[20:06:16] <Ivorius> It's backwards compatible

L929[20:06:56] <Cypher121> java.util.function didn't even exist before java 8

L930[20:06:58] <karlthepagan> Cypher121, you're lucky they have to use java 7 :P

L931[20:07:17] <Cypher121> they're backwards compatible with stuff like Comparator

L932[20:07:17] <karlthepagan> guava existed before java 8, function references are nothing but glorified objects

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L934[20:08:44] <karlthepagan> it's all synctatical sugar... and if you have any escaping references lambdas waste more memory than you might immagine

L935[20:08:45] <Cypher121> is guava shipped with MC + Forge?

L936[20:09:10] <karlthepagan> Cypher121, yes, guava 17 is used by the mojang authlib

L937[20:09:51] <Cypher121> well, I'll go with that

L938[20:10:14] <karlthepagan> I actually highly endorse using the Guava API's, then you'll be nicely backwards / forwards compatible

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L945[20:20:53] <Poppy> there's a mod which checks if the user's using java 8, and tells 'em to download it if they don't

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L947[20:21:00] <Poppy> I think it's a good policy

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L949[20:22:17] <Poppy> I've added an item to the oreDict, the damage variants don't stick though

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L952[20:24:28] <WeiseGuy> Hey all

L953[20:25:43] <Cypher121> Poppy: IMO, that's the only mod which absolutely must have that update notifier: https://i.imgur.com/KyPk6cy.jpg

L954[20:26:11] <Poppy> ugh

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L956[20:27:12] <Poppy> anywya, what's the easy method of making sure the damaged variants of my items are still oreDictionaried?

L957[20:27:41] <Cypher121> registering them to oreDict with WILD_CARD?

L958[20:27:52] <Cypher121> or however it's called

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L962[20:30:19] <Poppy> wild card? Is that a method? Or do you mean actuall wildcards? Where? The only two fields is a string a the item, block, or itemstack

L963[20:30:22] <WeiseGuy> In reference to a crafting table, what is called when you do the "click + drag" functions such as RightClick + Drag to put 1 of the itemstack into each slot or LeftClick + Drag to spread them evenly?

L964[20:30:54] <Cypher121> OreDictionary.WILDCARD_VALUE

L965[20:31:04] <Cypher121> it's a metadata value

L966[20:31:14] <Cypher121> so like

L967[20:31:35] <WeiseGuy> It would be like:

L968[20:31:36] <WeiseGuy> new ItemStack(Items.iron_pickaxe, 1, OreDictionary.WILDCARD_VALUE)

L969[20:31:44] <Cypher121> yeah, this

L970[20:31:45] <karlthepagan> Work in progress SpyEventBus -> https://github.com/karlthepagan/forge-spyeventbus <- currently prints a summary of some of the events that happened every 10 seconds

L971[20:31:59] <karlthepagan> configs in code right now, soon in yml

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L973[20:33:47] <WeiseGuy> My custom crafting table works, but onCratMatrixChanged is never fired if you do a click+drag to add to the slot.

L974[20:33:59] <WeiseGuy> Trying to find what method that is and what class has it, haha.

L975[20:37:10] <Poppy> let's see if this works

L976[20:37:40] <Poppy> does too!

L977[20:37:43] <Poppy> thanks guys

L978[20:38:43] <WeiseGuy> cheers

L979[20:41:06] <Poppy> so that's the easy stuff done

L980[20:41:21] <Poppy> now for the multies, models and shit

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L982[20:45:12] <Poppy> the way you replace multiple blocks with a model is that you simply give them an invisible texture and just replace the one carrying a tileEnt with the scaled up model, right?

L983[20:46:16] <Poppy> wait, no, that sounds stupid

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L986[20:49:06] <Cypher121> Poppy: actually, that's true, iirc

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L988[20:49:58] <Poppy> yeah, but then you can't make the other blocks interface, so I'm guessing they all have to be connected to that one tile entity or...

L989[20:50:16] <Cypher121> interface as in GUI?

L990[20:50:41] <Poppy> or just accepting items/power/whatever

L991[20:50:50] <tterrag> sure it's possible

L992[20:50:55] <tterrag> all the blocks just proxy function to the controlling TE

L993[20:50:55] <Cypher121> anyway, give each one TE

L994[20:51:05] <Cypher121> and redirect all needed methods to main TE

L995[20:51:11] <Poppy> oh!

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L997[21:05:37] <Poppy> I should really stop doing everything on my desktop, or select a username without diacritics

L998[21:06:21] <Poppy> javac can't fine file C:\Users\garbledusername\file.whatever

L999[21:06:28] <Poppy> *find

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L1009[21:28:56] <gigaherz> Poppy: yeah recommendation: use paths WITHOUT spaces or international characters for development

L1010[21:29:10] <gigaherz> stick to folders with only english alphanumeric chars

L1011[21:29:18] <gigaherz> that applies to any development, not just java

L1012[21:29:24] <gigaherz> it avoids issues ;P

L1013[21:29:39] <gigaherz> another recommendation: DO use paths with spaces AND international characters in the testing environments

L1014[21:29:50] <gigaherz> at least in some of them ;P

L1015[21:31:26] <AbrarSyed> ewwww, spaces in paths are evil

L1016[21:31:30] <AbrarSyed> :P

L1017[21:34:01] <gigaherz> that's why you should always test with them sometimes

L1018[21:34:02] <gigaherz> ;P

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L1020[21:37:01] <Cypher121> whitespaces...

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L1023[21:38:57] <Poppy> I can simply move my environment to somewhere else, right?

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L1025[21:41:29] <Poppy> still, you'd think that in todays day and age, decades after UNICODE was standartised...

L1026[21:44:04] <Poppy> sigh, just another hurdle for the unsuspecting newb

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L1031[21:57:44] <Poppy> humm, now I've got issues downloading forebin

L1032[21:57:47] <Poppy> *forgebin

L1033[21:58:25] <Poppy> Caused by: org.gradle.api.UncheckedIOException: Could not GET 'https://libraries.minecraft.net//forgeBin/1.7.10-10.13.4.1492-1.7.10/forgeBin-1.7.10-10.13.4.1492-1.7.10.pom'. Received status code 403 from server: Forbidden</i>

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L1036[22:04:42] <Poppy> the only help I found online is dated and tells me to --refresh-dependencies but that tasks no longer exists

L1037[22:05:35] <Poppy> oh

L1038[22:05:49] <Poppy> that's not a task, it's an argument for Setup

L1039[22:05:50] <Poppy> duh

L1040[22:07:12] * LexManos facepalsm

L1041[22:08:36] <tterrag> lex I see LVT commits in #ForgeGradle :D

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L1063[22:44:20] <Poppy> facepalm all you want, I've tried every friking combination refreshing dependencies and cleaning that's to be found online, and I'm starting to feel like a pidgeon doing dances in front of a broken seed dispenser in hopes the gods find my behaviour satisfactory to bless me with some

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L1066[22:45:56] <Poppy> wish that instead of all these monkey see monkey do solutions, someone'd explain why the fuck this happens

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L1069[22:50:03] <killjoy1> Why doesn't netflix support non-chrome browsers without silverlight?

L1070[22:56:04] <illyohs> killjoy1: becuse neflix's drm reqiuerment's, google chrome comes packaged with them.

L1071[22:56:27] <killjoy1> Silverlight just sucks so much though

L1072[22:59:09] <illyohs> im just happy it works with chrome out of the box I no longer have to install piplight to watch netflix

L1073[23:00:13] <sham1> The downside being that it is chrome

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L1076[23:01:08] <illyohs> IIRC firefox should be implimenting the it soon to

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L1079[23:04:31] <killjoy1> I acutally had to go and update the component manually.

L1080[23:04:35] <illyohs> hmm wait let me test this

L1081[23:04:43] <killjoy1> At least netflix told me h ow to do it

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L1099[23:44:15] <Zaggy1024> illyohs, Netflix works for me in Firefox

L1100[23:44:28] <Zaggy1024> on windows

L1101[23:44:37] <Zaggy1024> without silverlight installed, I mean

L1102[23:44:43] <illyohs> im on linux

L1103[23:44:49] <Zaggy1024> hm

L1104[23:44:55] <Zaggy1024> so adobe is just being slow?

L1105[23:45:12] <illyohs> maybe

L1106[23:45:16] <sham1> Netflix really needs html5

L1107[23:45:21] <Zaggy1024> netflix has html5

L1108[23:45:46] <Zaggy1024> it's up to Adobe to port the DRM plugin AFAIK

L1109[23:46:06] <Zaggy1024> unless Firefox has some component to it that also needs to be ported

L1110[23:47:17] <killjoy1> Oh reddit, never change. http://i.imgur.com/NYmDAaJ.png

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L1112[23:48:11] <sham1> Hmm

L1113[23:48:35] <sham1> Priorities of Reddit

L1114[23:49:40] <killjoy1> https://youtu.be/zYt0WbDjJ4E

L1115[23:49:42] <illyohs> reddit, imgur,

L1116[23:49:56] <illyohs> 4chan etc...

L1117[23:50:21] <killjoy1> 4chan? Oh, they're much worse

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L1119[23:53:21] <sham1> Also

L1120[23:54:01] <sham1> I found a picture in reddit where a guy was Google-ing a way to create classes at runtime

L1121[23:54:11] <sham1> It had something about AOL about it

L1122[23:54:55] <sham1> Dynamically created classes. That idea scares me

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L1125[23:56:30] <killjoy1> Doesn't forge do that?

L1126[23:56:37] <killjoy1> For events?

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L1128[23:57:53] <sham1> I think yes

L1129[23:57:57] <sham1> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/master/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/fml/common/eventhandler/ASMEventHandler.java#L67-L125

L1130[23:58:05] <sham1> It still scares me

L1131[23:58:32] <tterrag> why hello sham1

L1132[23:58:40] <sham1> Morning

L1133[23:58:52] <tterrag> https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/3pj4gb/i_guess_you_can_call_me_that/cw77uah

L1134[23:59:06] <sham1> Oh wow

L1135[23:59:17] <sham1> Didn't even read the poster's name

L1136[23:59:39] <sham1> 2sneaky4me

L1137[23:59:54] <tterrag> it's a pretty neat idea really