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L23[00:43:14] <Cazzar> And running windows 10 now

L24[00:45:03] <shadekiller666> nice

L25[00:45:08] <shadekiller666> its not bad actually

L26[00:45:09] <Manusoftar> im feeling a little moron asking this but i can figure it out, i found this explanation regarding mineshafts generation -> http://pastebin.com/NiNE3xbA and also i found a post where a guy called Badel told that before version 1.7 of minecraft the frequency of mineshafts was 1/100 but from 1.7 and abobe to 1/250. I still can see how to use that information to actually calculate the

L27[00:45:10] <Manusoftar> locations of the mineshafts from the world's seed

L28[00:45:20] <Manusoftar> mean can't

L29[00:46:36] <Manusoftar> im hoping someone can enlighten me at least a little

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L31[00:49:55] <Cazzar> I think, now my alt tabbing is changing to win tab

L32[00:50:06] <Cazzar> Namely because the windows show on the monitor I am using

L33[00:50:13] <shadekiller666> mhmm

L34[00:50:15] <Cazzar> It on, and virt desktops

L35[00:50:39] <shadekiller666> its the same thing, but larger images of what windows you have active

L36[00:51:17] <Cazzar> Not really, since, when you have 2-3 monitors, it will show the window on the monitor it is currently on.

L37[00:51:27] <Cazzar> It's nice because: http://upload.cazzar.net/images/qFY9MKw

L38[00:51:54] <shadekiller666> why is 2 lower than 1?

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L40[00:52:07] <Cazzar> Because, physically it is?

L41[00:52:11] <Cazzar> Also, smaller display

L42[00:52:14] <shadekiller666> so?

L43[00:52:40] <McJty> What's the best way to make a model for Minecraft that is *not* made out of cubes. Seems like Techne/Tabula only work with boxes.

L44[00:52:45] <Cazzar> Without something under the display, 2 is physically below 1

L45[00:52:50] <Cazzar> So I set it up like that

L46[00:53:00] <shadekiller666> i have 2 different sized displays, the right one is smaller and elevated with the bottom 1/2 up the larger one, but i keep them level in the monitor set up

L47[00:53:02] <McJty> Also still has to support 1.7.10

L48[00:53:22] <shadekiller666> mcjty, OBJs

L49[00:53:38] <McJty> shadekiller666, and how do you make those? And then how to put that in a mod?

L50[00:53:43] <McJty> Any tutorials on that?

L51[00:53:49] <shadekiller666> well, theres blender

L52[00:54:01] <McJty> I know blender but it has been a while since I used it.

L53[00:54:07] <Cazzar> shadekiller666: it's also positioned so I can have a near level mouse path.

L54[00:54:09] <McJty> But not sure what the path to MC would be

L55[00:54:13] <Cazzar> I got used to it is all :P

L56[00:54:34] <shadekiller666> mcjty, you'd put it in models/block or models/item

L57[00:54:47] <shadekiller666> you don't have to save directly out of blender into that, you can always move them

L58[00:55:11] <McJty> shadekiller666, ok and then how do I use that for an ISBRH for a block?

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L60[00:56:11] <shadekiller666> erm

L61[00:56:58] <shadekiller666> not exactly sure

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L63[01:03:26] <Ferdz> McJty, https://emxtutorials.wordpress.com/using-wavefront-obj-models-for-blocks/ my co-author wrote this tutorial on Wavefront (.obj) files for 1.7.10

L64[01:03:42] <McJty> Ferdz, thanks!

L65[01:04:03] <McJty> Seems to use a TESR but I suppose that can be easily adapted to an ISBRH

L66[01:04:36] <Ferdz> iirc ISBRH doesn't support IModelCustom

L67[01:04:48] <Ferdz> Not quite sure right now

L68[01:05:35] <Ferdz> Isn't ISBRH used for Tesselator rendering?

L69[01:05:46] <McJty> yes

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L71[01:08:00] <Ferdz> I doubt you can draw fine models with Tesselator, why not using TESR?

L72[01:08:21] <McJty> Because that means I would have to use a tile entity

L73[01:08:27] <McJty> And it is not needed to render this again every frame.

L74[01:08:31] <McJty> It doesn't change or animate

L75[01:08:45] <shadekiller666> you can draw whatever the hell you want with tesselator, it might not like > 4 vertices per face but its possible

L76[01:09:02] <McJty> yes, it has addVertex calls and such

L77[01:09:08] <McJty> But I prefer not to do it in code of course

L78[01:09:35] <shadekiller666> you should be able to tell the model to just render itself shouldn't you?

L79[01:10:02] <McJty> If it can render itself using the tesselator. Otherwise no

L80[01:10:06] <Ferdz> You could try it inside a ISBRH McJty, we honnestly never tried it

L81[01:10:37] <Ferdz> But if you're talking about high-poly models, you really don't want to code all of it by hand

L82[01:10:43] <McJty> Exactly

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L84[01:11:09] <McJty> That's why I was hoping there was something to convert an obj or similar to java code that uses the tesselator. Or else some loading code that uses the tesselator

L85[01:11:38] <Ferdz> Not that I know of, but maybe someone does ^^

L86[01:11:47] <Genuine> You can write one yourself.

L87[01:12:19] <Genuine> Pretty easy since wavefront is the simplest thing in the world.

L88[01:12:37] <Genuine> I wrote one a couple years back for funsies.

L89[01:12:49] <Genuine> I doubt I still have it though.

L90[01:13:00] <McJty> Oh, .obj is text. That's good!

L91[01:13:04] <McJty> Seems easy to parse

L92[01:13:11] <shadekiller666> lol

L93[01:13:14] <shadekiller666> you have no idea

L94[01:13:59] * shadekiller666 has spent several months writing a parser for wavefront objs :P

L95[01:14:18] <tmtu> months..? >.>

L96[01:14:20] <Genuine> https://github.com/seanrowens/oObjLoader

L97[01:14:30] <McJty> shadekiller666, why? Seems pretty easy

L98[01:14:35] <shadekiller666> well, at least a month all together

L99[01:15:06] <shadekiller666> theres actually quite a lot if you want to support a lot of the commands

L100[01:15:24] <Genuine> You could read the summary of that project and get enough information about wavefront objects to write your own.

L101[01:15:25] <McJty> Well I just need to support exactly what is in the model file that I exported from blender :-)

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L103[01:16:06] <Ferdz> It's funny because everytime I log here, shadekiller666 still hasn't finished the .obj for 1.8 :P (I'm stuntmania)

L104[01:16:13] <Ferdz> Changed username cuz yeah

L105[01:16:21] <Genuine> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQzujR_6Oh0

L106[01:16:22] <tmtu> confuze

L107[01:16:23] <shadekiller666> for the record, its ready to be pulled

L108[01:16:27] <Genuine> So it was three years ago I made it.

L109[01:16:30] <Ferdz> Yay! :D

L110[01:16:35] <shadekiller666> waiting on fry to get back to pull it

L111[01:16:50] <Genuine> That's a video of Skyrim mudcrabs in Minecraft.

L112[01:16:54] <shadekiller666> and to discuss posible uses for "custom" data in the forge blockstate jsons

L113[01:16:56] <Genuine> running around and stuff.

L114[01:20:53] <Genuine> That video still tickles me to this day.

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L119[01:28:25] <McJty> Hmm

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L121[01:28:38] <McJty> Seems the AdvancedModelLoader has problems with this obj

L122[01:28:44] <McJty> I just loaded a blend file I got from the internet

L123[01:28:47] <McJty> Exported to WaveFront

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L125[01:28:49] <McJty> And then I get:

L126[01:28:53] <McJty> net.minecraftforge.client.model.ModelFormatException: Error parsing entry ('f 16/5 11/6 37/7', line 391) in file 'deepresonance:obj/crystal.obj' - Invalid number of points for face (expected 4, found 3)

L127[01:29:05] <McJty> Should I do something differently when exporting?

L128[01:29:35] <shadekiller666> thats one thing that bugged the hell out of me with the 1.7 obj loader...

L129[01:29:47] <shadekiller666> erm

L130[01:30:02] <shadekiller666> you would need to convert that triangular face into a quad

L131[01:30:17] <McJty> That's annoying...

L132[01:30:26] <McJty> The model is made out of triangles completely

L133[01:30:28] <shadekiller666> or, you could manually go in and duplicate the last "#/#" pair on every "f" line

L134[01:30:55] <McJty> Hmm I' do that to start with

L135[01:31:02] <McJty> But when I make my own model I'll remember to use quads.

L136[01:31:07] <McJty> Pity it can't work with triangles though

L137[01:31:20] <shadekiller666> thats a problem that could easilly be fixed on the loader's side just by duplicating the last vertex... but who ever wrote that wanted to be strict instead of you know, nice and useful...

L138[01:31:43] <McJty> Why can't it just render a triangle mesh though?

L139[01:31:48] <McJty> OpenGL supports triangle meshes just fine

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L141[01:32:18] <shadekiller666> minecraft isn't set up to shove triangles into OpenGL

L142[01:32:26] <shadekiller666> its set up to shove quads into OpenGL

L143[01:32:35] <tmtu> wot

L144[01:32:52] <shadekiller666> ?

L145[01:32:59] <tmtu> how is it not set up to shove triangles

L146[01:33:06] <tmtu> tessellator?

L147[01:34:19] <shadekiller666> well, the normal calls are to start drawing quads

L148[01:34:44] <tmtu> just draw triangles instead then

L149[01:34:45] <McJty> Oh, the obj also contains faces with more then 4 vertices. That will be harder to correct in the file itself...

L150[01:34:50] <shadekiller666> and afaik, whatever gets loaded through the 1.7.10 loader has to be quads

L151[01:35:14] <McJty> tmtu, the obj loader unfortunatelly only accepts quads

L152[01:35:22] <tmtu> :(

L153[01:35:24] <tmtu> rude

L154[01:35:39] <McJty> I guess I'll have to make my own model then.

L155[01:35:57] <McJty> Trying to remember how blender works :-)

L156[01:36:18] * shadekiller666 's loader supports triangles

L157[01:36:35] <shadekiller666> though it doesn't draw >4 vertices very well

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L161[01:44:12] <Ferdz> You can check a 'triangulate' option when you êxport using Blender, which makes pretty much everything loadable (circles and stuff)

L162[01:44:34] <shadekiller666> not if the loader doesn't support triangles...

L163[01:44:49] <shadekiller666> but yes, that is an option if the loader works properlly

L164[01:45:23] <McJty> Pity Blender doesn't have a 'quadulate' option

L165[01:45:47] <tmtu> shadekiller666: if it doesn't support triangles it sucks ;_;

L166[01:46:01] <shadekiller666> like the 1.7.19 one...

L167[01:46:14] <shadekiller666> 1.7.10*

L168[01:48:04] <McJty> Ok, at least the obj works as a TESR. Perhaps I'll go with that to start with. It is a bit easier

L169[01:49:17] <shadekiller666> and can't you tell TESRs not to update every tick?

L170[01:49:28] <McJty> yes that's no problem

L171[01:49:35] <McJty> But it will still rerender every tick though.

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L173[01:49:44] <McJty> but there will not be too many of these so probably not a big deal

L174[01:49:51] <shadekiller666> ya

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L177[01:50:41] <sham1> Also, you could technically render with TESR every x ticks

L178[01:51:02] <ThePsionic> gais gais

L179[01:51:05] <ThePsionic> it my birdai

L180[01:51:14] <sham1> Good cakeday

L181[01:51:21] <ThePsionic> :D

L182[01:52:33] <Ferdz> Happy birthday :D

L183[01:53:23] <ThePsionic> thank

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L186[01:56:38] <shadekiller666> how old are you now?

L187[01:56:44] <ThePsionic> 19

L188[01:56:56] <shadekiller666> nice

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L192[02:04:12] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20150730 mappings to Forge Maven.

L193[02:04:15] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20150730-1.8.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20150730" in build.gradle).

L194[02:04:26] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

L195[02:06:34] <Cazzar> That time windows tells you that you have images created 220 years in the future

L196[02:07:04] <shadekiller666> you didn't hear? microsoft invented time travel with windows 10

L197[02:07:23] <ThePsionic> I use it

L198[02:07:28] <ThePsionic> It is very nice

L199[02:07:44] <shadekiller666> windows 10 is nice

L200[02:07:50] <Cazzar> It is

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L202[02:09:42] <Cazzar> I am still not going to change from my BRS lockscreen image :3

L203[02:09:44] <Cazzar> http://upload.cazzar.net/images/OhHSVDW

L204[02:10:10] <shadekiller666> lol

L205[02:10:26] <Cazzar> I can't find that image online anymore.

L206[02:13:19] <Cazzar> OHGOD W10 by default has network usage monotoring

L207[02:13:21] <Cazzar> Niice.

L208[02:13:36] <shadekiller666> it has quite a lot of things

L209[02:13:47] <Cazzar> I have used the TP

L210[02:13:50] <shadekiller666> ctrl+v works in command prompt now

L211[02:13:55] <Cazzar> Though, the network usage will be a nice thing to do

L212[02:14:16] <Cazzar> Shade one thing I like is, Powershell Syntax Highlighting

L213[02:14:26] <shadekiller666> O.o

L214[02:15:50] <Cazzar> shadekiller666: http://upload.cazzar.net/images/MR4sMlC

L215[02:16:06] <shadekiller666> :O

L216[02:16:16] <shadekiller666> so something Vim has had for a long time?

L217[02:16:42] <Cazzar> Also, if your line is syntactically incorrect: http://upload.cazzar.net/images/Qaa11iY

L218[02:17:19] <shadekiller666> is that C++?

L219[02:17:34] <Cazzar> Hmm?

L220[02:17:43] <shadekiller666> what "syntax" is that

L221[02:17:53] <Cazzar> The last line?

L222[02:18:00] <shadekiller666> in genera

L223[02:18:02] <shadekiller666> general

L224[02:18:06] <Cazzar> PowerShell

L225[02:18:12] <shadekiller666> if ($variable blah)

L226[02:18:26] <shadekiller666> ok

L227[02:18:27] <Cazzar> It's just powershell

L228[02:18:57] <Cazzar> I like it a lot more, since I can also do things like [System.String]::Join(', ', $strArray)

L229[02:19:05] <Cazzar> Which String.Join is a .NET function

L230[02:19:07] <shadekiller666> i wasn't aware that it had its own syntax

L231[02:20:52] <Cazzar> It's quite powerful for Windows Scripting

L232[02:21:02] <Cazzar> Then again, also VBScript

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L234[02:23:01] <Cazzar> That reminds me...

L235[02:23:11] <Cazzar> I need to find a replacement recorder...

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L254[03:31:49] <halvors> Hi. I have a question regarding getDescriptionPacket() function in the tileEntity, is this only called on the server for sending to the client?

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L270[04:40:43] <masa> afaik yes. how about check the call hierarchy and see where it is called from...

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L276[04:58:43] <Wuppy> https://www.facebook.com/YourEdm/videos/827370194037338/

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L280[05:18:20] <Szernex> well, seems like 1.9 will make things very different in some parts...

L281[05:18:27] <Szernex> mainly with the dual wielding stuff

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L284[05:22:14] <xaero> did you see the minecon panel? grum is compactifying json models a bit more too

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L304[06:19:27] <laci200270> where can I search for old mappings names?

L305[06:19:32] <laci200270> like func_150296_c

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L308[06:20:03] <gigaherz> laci200270: !gm func_150296_c <versionhere>

L309[06:20:21] <laci200270> i should type this?

L310[06:20:27] <laci200270> or what should i do

L311[06:20:31] <gigaherz> in here, or in MCPBot_Reborn's PM

L312[06:20:37] <laci200270> oh

L313[06:20:39] <gigaherz> it's a command from the bot

L314[06:20:47] <gigaherz> if you plan on doing more than one, prefer PM

L315[06:20:47] <gigaherz> ;P

L316[06:20:53] <laci200270> yes

L317[06:21:13] <laci200270> i'm trying to port AE2

L318[06:21:19] <laci200270> so much

L319[06:21:31] <gigaherz> o_O

L320[06:21:41] <gigaherz> glhf ;P

L321[06:23:29] <laci200270> mcpbot is good :D

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L324[06:35:37] <laci200270> AE2 port first stage in my way: delete all integrations for mods that not have been ported yet

L325[06:35:52] <laci200270> 50% of errors solved :D

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L328[06:47:03] <halvors> Um. I have some questions about redstone flux, is there any good examples of how to output energy from a block with an EnergyStorage in it?

L329[06:47:48] <laci200270> halvors, you should look at mods that use RF API

L330[06:48:31] <halvors> Any good examples? A mod that implements some sort of battery?

L331[06:48:41] <laci200270> battery?

L332[06:48:45] <laci200270> item or block?

L333[06:48:52] <halvors> Block :)

L334[06:49:04] <laci200270> enderio capacitor bank maybe?

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L336[06:49:48] <laci200270> halvors, https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderIO/blob/master/src/main/java/crazypants/enderio/machine/capbank/TileCapBank.java

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L340[06:57:38] <ollieread> halvors: output as in, distribute?

L341[06:59:45] <ollieread> laci200270: porting AE2?

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L344[07:00:16] <Keridos> yay, colored floodlights: http://media-elerium.cursecdn.com/attachments/25/96/2015-07-30_13.png

L345[07:00:35] <gigaherz> lol

L346[07:01:29] <halvors> ollieread: Yeah, sending energy to other TileEntity that implements IEnergyReciver's.

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L349[07:03:38] <ollieread> ahh

L350[07:05:21] <halvors> laci200270: Thanks, but that doesn't implement IEnergyProvider does it?

L351[07:06:55] <ollieread> halvors: https://github.com/ollieread/TechnoMagi/blob/dev/src/main/java/com/ollieread/technomagi/common/block/energy/tile/TileEnergy.java#L116

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L353[07:18:13] <halvors> ollieread: Thanks, that makes a lot of more sense :D

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L356[07:28:58] <Wuppy> holy crap the withcer 2 is pretty hard

L357[07:28:59] <Wuppy> although awesome

L358[07:29:15] <Wuppy> just spend 2 hours on doing half of 2 different contract side missions

L359[07:29:34] <McJty> Hmm. I have a TESR (for 1.7.10) which directly renders a WaveFromt OBJ that I exported from a Blender model that I just made. The TESR is here: https://bpaste.net/show/e250e2d38720

L360[07:29:41] <McJty> But the model flickers. Looks like z-fighting.

L361[07:29:46] <McJty> http://i.imgur.com/ITLXgZ4.png

L362[07:29:59] <McJty> Am I forgetting something?

L363[07:31:30] <heldplayer> Does it have a texture?

L364[07:31:40] <McJty> yes it has

L365[07:31:50] <heldplayer> Are the texture coordinates properly specified?

L366[07:31:53] <McJty> Although I didn't set uv coordinates in blender...

L367[07:31:55] <McJty> hmm

L368[07:32:06] <McJty> Let me try to do that first. Maybe that will help

L369[07:32:21] <McJty> Has been so long since I last used Blender. I have forgotten almost everything :-)

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L371[07:33:11] <gigaherz> z-fighting owuldn't happen just from bad UVs

L372[07:33:18] <gigaherz> you'd just see it having wrong texture

L373[07:33:21] <McJty> I would think that too

L374[07:33:27] <gigaherz> z-fighting usually implies you duplicated triangles

L375[07:33:33] <McJty> It seems to be flickering between textured/untextured

L376[07:33:43] <McJty> Well I checked and the number of quads in the obj file matches the model.

L377[07:33:45] <gigaherz> either they are overlapping, or you mistakingly exported the same mesh more than once

L378[07:33:46] <gigaherz> XD

L379[07:33:56] <gigaherz> OR you draw wrongly

L380[07:33:59] <gigaherz> ;P

L381[07:34:08] <McJty> Well I've shown the code

L382[07:34:11] <McJty> Do you see a mistake in it?

L383[07:34:41] <gigaherz> never done TESR so I wouldn't really know

L384[07:34:54] <McJty> it was copied straight from a tutorial

L385[07:35:02] <gigaherz> but it looks too simple to be wrong

L386[07:35:02] <gigaherz> XD

L387[07:35:04] <McJty> Besides changing names I didn't change anything

L388[07:35:24] <McJty> Oh

L389[07:35:28] <McJty> Fixing the UV did fix the flickering

L390[07:35:29] <McJty> Weird

L391[07:35:40] <gigaherz> thne your UVs were very wrong XD

L392[07:35:48] <McJty> Well I didn't specify any

L393[07:35:51] <gigaherz> Oh

L394[07:35:52] <gigaherz> hmm

L395[07:36:05] <McJty> It was just a model from scratch. No uv mapping or anything

L396[07:36:06] <gigaherz> that may mean it was using random UVs that previous models used

L397[07:36:06] <gigaherz> XD

L398[07:36:18] <McJty> ah that might explain things

L399[07:36:22] <McJty> Anyway, it is fixed now

L400[07:36:53] <heldplayer> Yay :D

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L404[07:50:53] <McJty> Ok, here is how the crystal now looks: http://jorrit.imgur.com/all/

L405[07:51:09] <McJty> BTW. How can I get the same model used for the item (in toolbar/inventory)?

L406[07:54:49] <McJty> I mean this url: http://i.imgur.com/cINlw2E.png

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L426[09:02:37] <Pennyw95> What's wrong with this item renderer for a tesr? It's not rendering at all

L427[09:02:38] <Pennyw95> http://pastebin.com/x47ypvPs

L428[09:03:09] <diesieben07> what are all those 0s? :o

L429[09:03:49] <Pennyw95> Well I want to see it before I try to adjust it

L430[09:03:58] <tmtu> probably the scale

L431[09:04:02] <Pennyw95> oh wait I put 0s on glscale too

L432[09:04:03] <Pennyw95> crap

L433[09:04:11] <tmtu> `-`

L434[09:04:16] <Pennyw95> it works now lol

L435[09:04:18] <Pennyw95> thanks

L436[09:04:44] <Pennyw95> this is the right way to do it anyway, isn't it?

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L438[09:05:06] <tmtu> do what?

L439[09:06:13] <Pennyw95> to render an item of a TESR

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L444[09:19:53] <Pennyw95> adjusting the rotation in the equipped view is so hard O_o

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L451[09:31:25] <Pennyw95> One last question... I set my TESR and all the item renderings (equipped, inventory, equipped 1st person view and entity). The thing is, when I break it it still gives out purple/black particles. What's missing?

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L453[09:32:09] <Flashfire> After many attempts with different methods and debugging, I am unable to get my texture to show on a custom skull item in the inventory

L454[09:32:47] <Flashfire> It just appears as missing texture if I try to use a json model and if I use builtin/entity like vanilla then it gets mapped to the vanilla chest texture

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L457[09:35:40] <Pennyw95> My guess is that those particles are based on the standard block textures, but since I have a TESR I put a blank String in the block's method...how is it supposed to be done?

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L459[09:36:40] <Flashfire> Was that to me?

L460[09:37:00] <Pennyw95> No, sorry..

L461[09:37:11] <Flashfire> No need to be sorry

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L481[10:15:05] <Horfius> Is there a good tutorial for block states in 1.8 without using json files? Like ones created within the actual block class.

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L483[10:18:45] <gigaherz> Horfius: you'd need a custom state tracker

L484[10:19:25] <shadekiller666> state mapper*

L485[10:19:29] <Horfius> Is there a tutorial on that or would it just be easier to write out 64 variants for 6 different blocks?

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L487[10:19:37] <Horfius> each*

L488[10:19:45] <shadekiller666> ...

L489[10:19:48] <gigaherz> what do the variants imply?

L490[10:19:51] <gigaherz> 64 seems a lot?

L491[10:20:00] <gigaherz> you may be able to make use of the forge blockstates system

L492[10:20:12] <gigaherz> http://mcforge.readthedocs.org/en/latest/blockstates/forgeBlockstates/

L493[10:20:46] <Pennyw95> Is it expected that a TESR block, when broken, still gives off the the black/purplish particles? I mean I guess that those particles are made with the basic block textures, but since I'm using a TESR, what should I do?

L494[10:21:06] <gigaherz> hmm you'd need to provide particle textures

L495[10:21:26] <gigaherz> no idea how those work when using a TESR

L496[10:21:45] <Pennyw95> oh ok...I tried giving the block it's own textures but then they fight with the tesr

L497[10:21:53] <Pennyw95> obviously

L498[10:21:53] <Flashfire> Before I start work in 10 minutes, does anyone know why I can't seem to get my texture to work on my custom skull item? I make a custom json model for the block and made the item's parent the block

L499[10:21:58] <diesieben07> set the render type to -1

L500[10:22:17] <diesieben07> (@penny)

L501[10:22:27] <Pennyw95> getrendertype? done already

L502[10:22:32] <Flashfire> Right now it's just rendering purple

L503[10:22:38] <diesieben07> then it wil not fight anything :D

L504[10:22:56] <Pennyw95> weird I swear it was flickering

L505[10:23:03] <Pennyw95> anyway so this is the way it's done?

L506[10:23:10] <Pennyw95> I mean, conventionally

L507[10:23:55] <Horfius> Are there any good 1.8 mods I can just look at?

L508[10:23:55] <Mraof> Is there a way to run Minecraft with a different version of LWJGL

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L510[10:24:17] <Mraof> The provided version has a bug on linux where it changes the refresh rate to 60 when Minecraft closes

L511[10:24:22] <Flashfire> You can look at my incompleter mod since it has a lot of variety https://github.com/Flashfyre/Chaos_Block

L512[10:24:29] <Mraof> And I don't really like having to xkill Minecraft every time

L513[10:24:42] <diesieben07> Mraof, in your IDE or from the launcher?

L514[10:24:45] <Flashfire> Also this https://github.com/TheGreyGhost/MinecraftByExample/tree/master/src/main/java/minecraftbyexample

L515[10:25:01] <gigaherz> Mraof: I assume you'd need to compile minecraft with a different lwjgl

L516[10:25:10] <gigaherz> since the natives won't work with different java-side lib

L517[10:25:24] <Mraof> From both, really

L518[10:25:35] <diesieben07> well, for in the IDE you just change the attached library

L519[10:25:57] <gigaherz> you'd basically end up working with a fully custom forge jar?

L520[10:25:58] <gigaherz> XD

L521[10:26:18] <diesieben07> lwjgl has nothing to do wiht the forg ejar

L522[10:26:59] <gigaherz> to get a different version of the lwjgl inside minecraft?

L523[10:27:22] <diesieben07> has nothing to do wiht the forge jar

L524[10:27:33] * gigaherz shrugs

L525[10:27:45] <diesieben07> and for in the launcher i recommend multimc

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L527[10:29:15] <gigaherz> oh you are right, I was thinking org.lwjgl was inside the mc jar

L528[10:29:17] <gigaherz> XD

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L539[10:30:28] <Horfius> Okay, I guess I'll just do a large blockstate file :/

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L541[10:31:22] <Horfius> It's gonna be so big because each direction (N/S/W/E/U/D) has a part

L542[10:31:43] <Horfius> But I am going to use a TESR because .obj model

L543[10:31:52] <Horfius> With particle effects

L544[10:31:55] <shadekiller666> unfortunately thats what you have to do

L545[10:32:11] <shadekiller666> and my obj loader is ready to be pulled

L546[10:32:55] <Horfius> Isn't there already an obj loader in Forge?

L547[10:33:12] <shadekiller666> there is in 1.7.10, not 1.8

L548[10:33:23] <shadekiller666> and thats where mine comes in

L549[10:33:38] <Horfius> Why not?

L550[10:33:53] <Horfius> Seems silly to remove it

L551[10:34:16] <shadekiller666> well, theres a new model loader registry system

L552[10:34:27] <shadekiller666> and the 1.7.10 was a horrible obj loader

L553[10:35:14] <tterrag> The old one wouldn't have ported without rewriting 90% of it

L554[10:35:19] <Horfius> Ahh

L555[10:35:40] <shadekiller666> and at that point might as well write a new one

L556[10:35:47] <Horfius> Well, how am I going to load this .obj until your stuff is pulled?

L557[10:35:52] <shadekiller666> that is built from the ground up to work in the new system

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L560[10:41:53] <Horfius> What the the Cutout and Cutout_Mipped world layers for?

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L592[11:33:13] <Horfius> So, uh, I may have done my math wrong earlier, because I'd need 6! variants to cover all possible variations O_O

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L594[11:33:47] <Horfius> I either need to write a little program to do this for me or I'm going to go crazy

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L597[11:36:37] <shadekiller666> are you using forge blockstate jsons?

L598[11:36:42] <shadekiller666> they're generally smaller

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L601[11:37:51] <Horfius> Nooo

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L609[11:47:32] <Horfius> Okay, how would I implement Forge Blockstates with a block that has a boolean property for each Direction?

L610[11:48:06] <Horfius> The model itself is a .obj so I wouldn't change the model or texture based upon the states within the blockstate files

L611[11:48:13] <Horfius> It would only change in the tesr

L612[11:50:38] <williewillus> so those properties will never be saved?

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L614[11:55:52] <Horfius> They need to persist

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L616[11:56:54] <Horfius> I also need to add crafting recipes for changing each bit

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L620[11:58:38] <Horfius> I feel like this would be far easier to do in 1.7 >.>

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L623[11:59:05] <Horfius> I could just use nbt to save it, actually

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L625[11:59:37] <Horfius> But how would I transfer that to the TileEntity...

L626[12:00:42] <shadekiller666> it would be far easier to do with the 1.8 obj loader but ya

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L628[12:02:40] <Horfius> Well I'm trying to figure out the best way to transfer which directions are enabled/disabled right now

L629[12:02:41] <williewillus> i don't think you have enough meta values if you want a bool for all 6 directions

L630[12:02:44] <williewillus> to save

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L632[12:03:12] <Horfius> I'm not trying to store it in meta because that's only 4 bits and I'd need 6 at least

L633[12:03:49] <williewillus> but you want them to save

L634[12:03:59] <Horfius> Yes, but I can't do that with the meta

L635[12:04:03] <williewillus> i think its just better off using a TE and putting it all in nbt in this case

L636[12:04:08] <williewillus> forget about the properties

L637[12:04:19] <Horfius> That's what I was thinking

L638[12:04:22] <Horfius> Hmmm

L639[12:05:46] <Horfius> Hmm, now the question is should I make enabling the different directions through recipes or through right clicking the sides with the required item...

L640[12:05:57] <Horfius> The latter would be far easier...

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L643[12:09:37] <Horfius> onBlockActivated is for right clicking it, yes?

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L645[12:09:47] <pig> Yes

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L648[12:15:00] <Horfius> "returns the ItemStack containing the itemInUse" Great javadocs, as usual

L649[12:15:34] <shadekiller666> thats pretty self-explanitory

L650[12:20:54] <williewillus> where is the maven of codechickenlib

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L652[12:21:01] <Horfius> The method is called getItemInUse

L653[12:21:08] <Horfius> I don't know what ItemInUse is

L654[12:21:27] <williewillus> the item the player is right clicking :p

L655[12:21:36] <shadekiller666> the one that the player is holding and right clicking with

L656[12:21:40] <Horfius> But why not just use getHeldItem?

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L658[12:21:57] <shadekiller666> i made my self a sandwhich, it smells like its been dead

L659[12:22:05] <Horfius> Good job?

L660[12:22:10] <shadekiller666> ...

L661[12:22:32] <shadekiller666> thou hast missed le reference

L662[12:22:44] <shadekiller666> and getHeldItem just refers to the one being held

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L665[12:23:27] <Horfius> But wouldn't the held item be the one that's being used?

L666[12:24:30] <shadekiller666> yes

L667[12:24:41] <shadekiller666> but the held item isn't always the one being used

L668[12:24:55] <Horfius> How?

L669[12:25:05] <Horfius> If something was using items for the player?

L670[12:26:00] <shadekiller666> idk

L671[12:26:01] <shadekiller666> lol

L672[12:26:18] <shadekiller666> did anyone else get my sandwhich reference?

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L689[13:02:43] <Shuetox> Hey, is there a way to stretch blocks in json?

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L691[13:07:37] <Shuetox> or rather how do i use the old glscale option in techne for json?

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L696[13:21:38] <Gliby> here's something strange, i'm including a (apache)library in my mod that works fine on the server, but gets a NoClassDefFoundError :/

L697[13:21:46] <Gliby> on the client*

L698[13:25:42] <Shuetox> What is "requiresUpdate" in block updating?

L699[13:25:58] <Horfius> If it should randomly tick, like a farmland or plants

L700[13:26:14] <Shuetox> Ah ic, thanks

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L714[14:08:34] <williewillus> what's the maven repo for CodeChickenLib? chickenbones' maven doesn't have it

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L716[14:09:42] <Manusoftar> is there any way to programatically place protected blocks?? (i mean like with an enchantment so the player cannot break em)

L717[14:09:44] <Horfius> It might be on the forge maven

L718[14:09:58] <Horfius> Many, Manu

L719[14:10:03] <williewillus> whats the forge maven url?

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L721[14:11:29] <diesieben07> williewillus, http://uploaded.net/file/yv1t7c5d/SeE.part52.rar

L722[14:11:35] <diesieben07> woopsies

L723[14:11:48] <diesieben07> http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven

L724[14:12:04] <Cricket> (entity.getDataWatcher().getWatchedObject(RenderEvolvedSkeleton.isBG2Loaded) == null) what is getWatchedObject now?, isBG2Loaded is an int

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L726[14:21:02] <Shuetox> is it wrong to use a non tickable tileEntity for access to more complex rendering method than what i can achive with json?

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L728[14:23:37] <williewillus> not really, what kinds of rendering do you need?

L729[14:24:49] <Cricket> so nobody knows my question I guess :(

L730[14:25:23] <PaleoCrafter> AHA, diesieben07

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L732[14:27:50] <Shuetox> williewillus i need access to Tessellator

L733[14:28:01] <Shuetox> basicly i wanna render shapes that isn't block based

L734[14:28:18] <williewillus> i think it's fine to use a tesr

L735[14:28:26] <PaleoCrafter> no, it isn't :P

L736[14:28:31] <PaleoCrafter> TESRs are for rendering

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L738[14:28:34] <PaleoCrafter> eh... animating

L739[14:28:45] <PaleoCrafter> everything else: use baked models in *some* form

L740[14:28:48] <Shuetox> What would i use for rendering just a shape?

L741[14:29:34] <PaleoCrafter> B3D, obj (soon™), code

L742[14:29:52] <Manusoftar> which is the world.setBlock equivalent on 1.8

L743[14:29:54] <Manusoftar> ???

L744[14:30:00] <PaleoCrafter> setBlockState

L745[14:30:32] <Manusoftar> but that method lacks the Blocks.anyblock argument O_o

L746[14:30:41] <Shuetox> blockstate == block

L747[14:30:46] <Manusoftar> ups!

L748[14:30:48] <PaleoCrafter> no...

L749[14:30:54] <PaleoCrafter> Block.getDefaultState()

L750[14:31:03] <PaleoCrafter> blockstate is block + metadata

L751[14:31:12] <Shuetox> which is still a block in my world

L752[14:31:36] <PaleoCrafter> your world should be code :P

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L754[14:32:14] <Shuetox> You see matrix code all around you dont you? :P

L755[14:32:51] <Cricket> He is the matrix code

L756[14:34:52] <PaleoCrafter> meh, have to set up my macros again after the update to windows 10

L757[14:35:13] <tmtu> macaronis

L758[14:35:33] <Manusoftar> if i want to place a block that the player cannot destroy, should i set that up through the IProperties???

L759[14:36:21] <williewillus> probably not

L760[14:36:47] <Manusoftar> then how can i do it??

L761[14:37:20] <Cricket> PaleoCrafter: do you know my issue?

L762[14:37:33] <PaleoCrafter> uhm... lemme see

L763[14:37:47] <williewillus> Manusoftar: set the block hardness to -1

L764[14:37:56] <williewillus> that's what bedrock does

L765[14:38:03] <PaleoCrafter> getWatchedObject still is a thing

L766[14:38:21] <Cricket> its private

L767[14:38:27] <Manusoftar> williewillus: thats a good idea!! thanks

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L769[14:39:21] <Shuetox> Anyone got an example of rendering without tesr and json?

L770[14:40:37] <Manusoftar> i found something interesting -> BlockState myBlock = new BlockState(Blocks.iron_block); => myBlock.getBlock().setBlockUnbreakable();

L771[14:40:46] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, no

L772[14:40:49] <Manusoftar> i gues it should do what i need

L773[14:41:10] <PaleoCrafter> a) you don't create new blockstates (if you were to, definitely not like that)

L774[14:41:21] <Manusoftar> ?

L775[14:42:02] <PaleoCrafter> b) you shouldn't just set the hardness of a block sometime during runtime

L776[14:42:17] <PaleoCrafter> Blocks.iron_block.getDefaultState() gets you a blockstate

L777[14:42:18] <Flashfire> I still have the same problem from yesterday if anyone might be able to help: the texture for my custom skull block isn't showing up. I made a json copy of the model with the entity texture and it appears as the missing block texture yet it doesn't give me an error

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L779[14:42:48] <Manusoftar> but then i can do the setBlockUnbreakable on that state?

L780[14:42:57] <Manusoftar> can't i?

L781[14:43:03] <PaleoCrafter> no...

L782[14:43:16] <PaleoCrafter> don't tamper like with blocks you don't own

L783[14:43:23] <PaleoCrafter> oh, Cricket, what type does the watchable object have? :P

L784[14:43:34] <Manusoftar> then how the heck can i make sure the player wont be able to break it??

L785[14:43:39] <Cricket> um?

L786[14:43:42] <williewillus> set it unbreakable lol

L787[14:43:42] <Cricket> what?

L788[14:43:57] <Manusoftar> but +PaleoCrafter said i cant???

L789[14:44:09] <williewillus> no he said not to do "new BlockState"

L790[14:44:12] <williewillus> that breaks shit

L791[14:44:23] <PaleoCrafter> and I said not to do setblockUnbreakable, that breaks shit as well :P

L792[14:44:28] <williewillus> oh?

L793[14:44:34] <williewillus> why?

L794[14:44:51] <PaleoCrafter> you can't just run around and change other blocks' properties :P

L795[14:45:01] <PaleoCrafter> at least in MC

L796[14:45:02] <williewillus> oh is it not your own block?

L797[14:45:15] <PaleoCrafter> Blocks.iron_block, doesn't look like it :P

L798[14:45:27] <williewillus> anyways, how do I get the first registered fluid container for a given fluid?

L799[14:45:42] <Manusoftar> so if i set it to unbreakable will it set all blocks of that type to unbreakable?

L800[14:46:02] <PaleoCrafter> that for a start, yes

L801[14:46:12] <williewillus> need to render an itemstack in 1.8 for transmutations but fluids no longer have an inv icon, so need to get a container for it

L802[14:46:19] <Manusoftar> i need to make an instance of a block unbreakable not all of em

L803[14:47:16] <PaleoCrafter> BlockEvent.BreakEvent

L804[14:47:18] <Shuetox> hook into block break event and prevent it from breaking it?

L805[14:47:19] <Shuetox> damnit

L806[14:47:21] <Shuetox> he was faster

L807[14:47:32] <Manusoftar> i've seen on mp servers that there are blocks and chests protected from breaking and even from interaction

L808[14:47:47] <williewillus> yeah those use events

L809[14:48:11] <Flashfire> A lot of my mod's stuff is unbreakable

L810[14:48:23] <Manusoftar> would it prevent the player to break ANY of those kind of blocks?? like the set unbreakable thing...

L811[14:48:25] <Flashfire> The blocks reset if they're broken

L812[14:49:09] <PaleoCrafter> Manusoftar, depends on your conditions for canceling the event :P

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L814[14:49:49] <Manusoftar> i see, i should keep record of which ones should be unbreakable and compare the one that fired the event...

L815[14:49:52] <Manusoftar> i guess

L816[14:49:54] <Shuetox> if(block.pos == unbreakablepos)

L817[14:50:17] <Manusoftar> and create a list or stack of unbreakableposs

L818[14:50:24] <Ivorius> Yo

L819[14:50:28] <Manusoftar> nice

L820[14:50:31] <Ivorius> Any of you guys remember the GH issue with broken fonts

L821[14:50:39] <Ivorius> I seem to have lost the link

L822[14:50:54] <Manusoftar> One more thing, the eventhandler should be placed on the main mod class, shouldn't it??

L823[14:52:02] <PaleoCrafter> it can be anywhere, Manusoftar

L824[14:52:27] <PaleoCrafter> there are mod lifecycle events (method annotated with @EventHandler) whose handlers go in the main class

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L827[14:52:57] <PaleoCrafter> and there are game events (method annotated with @SubscribeEvent) whose handlers go anywhere, but you have to register the handler to the proper bus

L828[14:53:07] <Flashfire> I'll simplify my question from earlier: how can I get my item to use an entity texture? Everything seems correct and it seems to find the texture but the item shows up as a missing block texture

L829[14:53:18] <Manusoftar> and this one is a game event ok

L830[14:53:28] <Ivorius> Nvm, think I found it

L831[14:53:47] <williewillus> what's the nbt tag for an itemstack's name called

L832[14:53:51] <williewillus> was it DisplayName

L833[14:54:37] <PaleoCrafter> just "Name"

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L835[14:54:49] <PaleoCrafter> according to ItemStack.getDisplayName :P

L836[14:55:00] <PaleoCrafter> should use that and setStackDisplayName for handling it anyway :P

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L838[14:57:11] <Flashfire> I also have another question that might be related to my problem: what causes this "[15:56:32] [Client thread/ERROR] [TEXTURE ERRORS]: The following texture errors were found." where there are no following errors?

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L840[15:01:58] <shadekiller666> !gm func_143031_a

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L842[15:02:13] <williewillus> is this good enough special casing for rendering arbitrary blockstates that might have fluids? >.>

L843[15:02:13] <williewillus> http://pastebin.com/uiS84KYu

L844[15:02:22] <williewillus> for ProjectE world transmutation nei handler

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L851[15:08:19] <williewillus> is there not a single lang key in vanilla that gives me the word "Block" -.-

L852[15:08:41] <shadekiller666> uhhh, no

L853[15:08:48] <shadekiller666> well maybe

L854[15:09:05] <shadekiller666> are the creative tab tooltips saved in a lang?

L855[15:09:09] <shadekiller666> i would imagine they would b

L856[15:09:11] <shadekiller666> be

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L858[15:09:40] <williewillus> that one is plural "Blocks"

L859[15:09:41] <williewillus> oh well

L860[15:09:55] <PaleoCrafter> what do you need the translation for? :P

L861[15:10:03] <shadekiller666> could you rip the s off?

L862[15:10:18] <PaleoCrafter> pluralisation isn't consistent across languages :P

L863[15:10:35] <PaleoCrafter> hell, it's different between different words of one language :P

L864[15:10:39] <williewillus> nei plugin for PE's world transmutations, need to render a fluid block as an itemstack, which you can't do in 1.8, so I'm grabbing the first registered container item for it and changing the display name lol

L865[15:10:55] <williewillus> unless there's a clearer alternative I can't think of to show the recipe :p

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L867[15:11:01] <PaleoCrafter> don't see what you need the translation for :P

L868[15:11:10] <williewillus> "<FluidName> Block"

L869[15:11:20] <williewillus> i can just leave it off though

L870[15:11:29] <PaleoCrafter> never concatenate translations in code :P

L871[15:11:47] <williewillus> why not :p

L872[15:11:53] <williewillus> im not gonna do it anyhow

L873[15:11:53] <PaleoCrafter> French for instance would basically be "Block of <FluidName>" :P

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L875[15:12:38] <tterrag> Well hopefully the lang entry would be %s Block

L876[15:12:47] <tterrag> Then order could be modified

L877[15:12:49] <PaleoCrafter> ^

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L880[15:16:53] <Flashfire> Well now I know why my item wasn't rendering

L881[15:17:20] <Flashfire> The entity texture isn't the same width and height and it didn't give me any errors saying that so I didn't think of it until now

L882[15:18:21] <Shuetox> how many sub blocks can i have in a json rendering thingie without hitting performance noticably?

L883[15:18:26] <Flashfire> In fact, the error is supposed to be there but it isn't

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L885[15:20:35] <Manusoftar> guys the method world.setBlockSate is asking for an IBlockState which is not what i get with Blocks.iron_block.getBlockState(), i tried casting it but it says it cant be casted... what should i do now???

L886[15:21:10] <PaleoCrafter> ffs

L887[15:21:17] <PaleoCrafter> getDefaultState

L888[15:21:18] <Simulac> Blocks.iron_block.GetDefaultBlockState()

L889[15:21:19] <PaleoCrafter> for the third time

L890[15:21:30] <Simulac> getDefaultBlockState()*

L891[15:21:31] <Flashfire> getDefaultState*

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L893[15:21:36] <Simulac> FUCK

L894[15:21:36] <Manusoftar> upps i missed the Default...

L895[15:21:40] <Manusoftar> sorry

L896[15:21:44] <Simulac> can't type today

L897[15:22:21] <Flashfire> Manusoftar: Don't you have intellisense?

L898[15:22:42] <Simulac> wait notepad has intellisense?

L899[15:22:54] <Flashfire> Who uses notepad to code in java

L900[15:23:12] <Shuetox> who uses notepad for anything?

L901[15:23:17] <Shuetox> atleast be decent and go for notepad ++

L902[15:23:33] <Manusoftar> yep but it claims that the Blocks.iron_block.getDefaultBlockSate is undefined...

L903[15:23:34] <Flashfire> I use that but sometimes I just use notepad because it's quicker

L904[15:23:36] <Manusoftar> im using 1.8

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L906[15:23:41] <Manusoftar> just in case

L907[15:23:45] <Flashfire> I have so many notepad++ tabs it can be annoying to go through them

L908[15:23:50] <diesieben07> Manusoftar, because it is called getDefaultState

L909[15:23:52] <diesieben07> ... seriously.

L910[15:24:35] <Flashfire> You should know a method doesn't exist if you're using an IDE. If you're not using an IDE, why are you not using an IDE?

L911[15:24:53] <Manusoftar> simulac said getDefaultBlockState i just didnt realize that the other wrote only getDefaultState...

L912[15:24:55] <Simulac> guys I think you are underestimating notepad

L913[15:25:04] <PaleoCrafter> if you're using an IDE, why aren't you USING the IDE? :P

L914[15:25:21] <Simulac> You see notepad has cutting edge features

L915[15:25:24] <Manusoftar> Im using Eclipse, isn't it enough IDE for you???

L916[15:25:40] <Flashfire> Yes it is, and Eclipse has intellisense to tell you if methods exist

L917[15:25:45] <tterrag> his point is thay you aren't using its features

L918[15:25:53] <Simulac> Pffttt... eclipse. Notepad is better.

L919[15:26:06] <Flashfire> Pft photoshop... paint is better (same thing)

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L921[15:26:17] <Manusoftar> and it told me getDefaultBlockState didn't exist, what i didnt realize is that other guys wrote getDefaultSate (without Block)

L922[15:26:40] <Simulac> PFFFT, punch cards are better

L923[15:26:46] <gigaherz_d> Flashfire: paint is to photoshop, what notepad is to word

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L925[15:26:57] <Simulac> Ctrl + Space, Manusoftar

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L927[15:27:28] <Simulac> As soon as you typed getDefault, the correct method should have come up

L928[15:27:31] <Flashfire> I remember everything I saved in paint was all grainy and distorted

L929[15:27:43] <Simulac> You're using it wrong obviously

L930[15:27:46] <MattDahEpic> every time you guys say intellisense i think its some new IDEA feature that i should know about

L931[15:27:49] <PaleoCrafter> eh, gigaherz, notepad is more versatile than word, in a sense :P

L932[15:28:01] <gigaherz> so is mspaint

L933[15:28:01] <gigaherz> ;P

L934[15:28:25] <gigaherz> but then when you want layers, effects, etc ... well they don't work

L935[15:28:26] <PaleoCrafter> wut, no

L936[15:29:12] <Simulac> Haha plebs, I draw every pixel by hand

L937[15:29:15] <gigaherz> open/save, type letters / draw pixels, select, cut, copy, paste, -- they have the same feature set! ;P

L938[15:29:23] <Simulac> That's VERSATILITY

L939[15:29:25] <williewillus> notepad? how can anyone use that without wanting to murder themselves

L940[15:29:33] <williewillus> at least notepad++, or sublime or atom

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L942[15:29:54] <Simulac> Sublime is much too ugly, the white background and lack of command palette annoy me

L943[15:30:02] <Simulac> whereas with notepad, it has its own package manager

L944[15:30:09] <Simulac> OSGI compliant

L945[15:30:18] <PaleoCrafter> isn't Sublime darkish normally? :P

L946[15:30:26] <MattDahEpic> ^

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L948[15:30:35] <williewillus> sublime is dark theme :p

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L950[15:30:49] <MattDahEpic> and sublime has a package ,manager

L951[15:30:52] <PaleoCrafter> yeah

L952[15:30:53] <PaleoCrafter> :D

L953[15:31:02] <Simulac> Not like notepad's superior command palette and package manager

L954[15:31:28] <williewillus> does IDEA still not have a "jump to matching parentheses/brace" key :/

L955[15:31:34] <Simulac> I've themed my notepad with darcula monokai

L956[15:31:57] <Simulac> downloaded the intellisense python module

L957[15:32:11] <PaleoCrafter> you do actually use notepad?

L958[15:32:12] <Simulac> + VIM shortcuts

L959[15:32:17] <diesieben07> williewillus, you can customize your keybindings completeely

L960[15:32:24] <Simulac> Haha no

L961[15:32:43] <Simulac> It was a joke which was poorly conveyed D':

L962[15:33:06] <Simulac> WHEN DOES NOTEPAD HAVE THEMES AND A PACKAGE MANAGER?!?!

L963[15:33:09] <PaleoCrafter> you used notepad synonymous to IDEA? :P

L964[15:33:33] <MattDahEpic> i keep jumping between brackets and sublime for my web dev, and i just saw the IDEA people's web ide so im wondering if that would work better

L965[15:33:34] <Simulac> and sublime text :P

L966[15:33:38] <PaleoCrafter> people might have done crazy shit :P

L967[15:33:58] <PaleoCrafter> MattDahEpic, PHP/WebStorm is pretty cool

L968[15:34:25] <Simulac> I wish there was a way to make IDEA feel as 'smooth' as ST3

L969[15:34:37] <Simulac> ST3 Glacier feels sooo nice

L970[15:34:53] <Simulac> Glacier theme that is*

L971[15:35:14] <MattDahEpic> its too hot, put it in the freezer and itll be glacier in no time

L972[15:35:29] <MattDahEpic> ;P

L973[15:35:48] <Simulac> instructions not clear, notepad has crashed

L974[15:35:59] <Flashfire> How can I make items with sub-items NOT look for a model with the name of the base item?

L975[15:36:01] <MattDahEpic> into an iceberg

L976[15:36:08] <Simulac> dayummm

L977[15:36:29] <Flashfire> It says #inventory model not found for my items with sub-items

L978[15:36:42] <MattDahEpic> ModelBakery Flashfire

L979[15:36:48] <Flashfire> I used that already

L980[15:37:07] <MattDahEpic> did you register like normal, but for the new names?

L981[15:37:12] <Flashfire> Yes

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L983[15:37:31] <Flashfire> I just didn't register the base item since it's not an actual item

L984[15:37:48] <MattDahEpic> Flashfire, https://github.com/MattDahEpic/TelePacks1.8/blob/master/src/main/java/com/mattdahepic/telepacks/client/ClientProxy.java#L14

L985[15:38:05] <calclavia> Is there a way to load sound fxs without needing any JSON files?

L986[15:38:17] <MattDahEpic> version?

L987[15:38:38] <Flashfire> Mine only has 2 arguments

L988[15:38:53] <Flashfire> It doesn't have an argument for the base item

L989[15:38:57] <Onyx> !ping

L990[15:39:00] <Flashfire> I guess that's the problem?

L991[15:39:04] <MattDahEpic> yup

L992[15:39:24] <Flashfire> Thanks

L993[15:39:26] <MattDahEpic> you have to tell it what item to expand on

L994[15:39:49] <williewillus> you could look at the resourceloader and see how it creates sound entries from the resource pack json

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L997[15:40:39] <Flashfire> What's wrong with json though?

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L999[15:41:16] <MattDahEpic> Flashfire, when you have 300 billion textures and need a json file for each

L1000[15:41:31] <Flashfire> Textures? I thought this was about sounds

L1001[15:41:51] <MattDahEpic> anything

L1002[15:41:55] <Flashfire> They're all in one file

L1003[15:41:56] <MattDahEpic> sounds too

L1004[15:42:06] <MattDahEpic> they didnt used to be

L1005[15:42:25] <Flashfire> Well since they are now, what's the downside?

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L1007[15:42:32] <MattDahEpic> sounds arent

L1008[15:43:24] <Flashfire> Uhh the extra argument didn't solve my problem

L1009[15:43:40] <MattDahEpic> did you specify meta in the registers?

L1010[15:43:46] <Flashfire> Yep

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L1012[15:43:52] <Flashfire> The items all work just fine

L1013[15:44:09] <Flashfire> It's just that I get an error saying the inventory model for the non-existent base item doesn't exist

L1014[15:44:13] <MattDahEpic> second argument for the resource location "inventory"?

L1015[15:44:45] <Flashfire> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation(item, meta, new ModelResourceLocation(modid + ":" + item.getUnlocalizedName(new ItemStack(item, 1, meta)).substring(5), "inventory"));

L1016[15:44:47] <MattDahEpic> the 0 meta should be the base item

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L1018[15:45:26] <Flashfire> My metadata 0 item has a suffix though

L1019[15:45:46] <Flashfire> Should I exclude the suffix on metadata 0?

L1020[15:46:09] <Flashfire> It seems to work fine for blocks but not items

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L1022[15:50:40] <williewillus> tooltipevent seems to be firing twice wat

L1023[15:50:55] <MattDahEpic> it does that

L1024[15:51:03] <MattDahEpic> noone knows why

L1025[15:51:06] <MattDahEpic> but it does

L1026[15:52:03] <williewillus> in only 1.8 though it seems

L1027[15:52:08] <MattDahEpic> yup

L1028[15:52:21] <williewillus> is there a bug report for that?

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L1030[15:52:36] <MattDahEpic> no, afaik

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L1032[15:54:38] <Flashfire> Yeah it looks like I had to remove the suffix off the first metadata

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L1035[16:06:01] <Flashfire> Has anyone made an item with an animated hue rotation?

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L1038[16:13:51] <MattDahEpic> PaleoCrafter, php/webstorm costs money

L1039[16:14:01] <PaleoCrafter> they are awesome though :P

L1040[16:15:02] <MattDahEpic> does phpstorm have all the webstorm stuff + php?

L1041[16:15:06] <PaleoCrafter> yep

L1042[16:15:30] <PaleoCrafter> and then you could go IDEA Ultimate and have PhpStorm + all the other things xD

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L1044[16:16:29] <Flashfire> Anyone have a reference for a custom item renderer?

L1045[16:16:39] <williewillus> 1.7?

L1046[16:16:43] <Flashfire> Trying to figure out how to make an item rotate hue

L1047[16:16:44] <Flashfire> 1.8

L1048[16:16:51] <williewillus> what's rotate hue mean

L1049[16:16:55] <PaleoCrafter> you can change hue without a renderer :P

L1050[16:16:57] <williewillus> like fade between different colors?

L1051[16:17:00] <Flashfire> yes

L1052[16:17:01] <williewillus> just have an animated texture

L1053[16:17:08] <williewillus> ?

L1054[16:17:08] <Flashfire> But I don't want 256 images

L1055[16:17:12] <PaleoCrafter> getColorFromItemStack

L1056[16:17:21] <PaleoCrafter> then do

L1057[16:17:23] <PaleoCrafter> whoops

L1058[16:17:24] <Flashfire> Wow, there's a method for this?

L1059[16:17:29] <PaleoCrafter> of course :P

L1060[16:17:32] <williewillus> ah i guess that could work too

L1061[16:17:37] <williewillus> but then you'd need to store the color on the stack?

L1062[16:17:41] <PaleoCrafter> nah

L1063[16:17:47] <Flashfire> I wouldn't care if it reset

L1064[16:17:47] <PaleoCrafter> system time + modulo :P

L1065[16:17:52] <tterrag> use HSB color

L1066[16:17:52] <williewillus> lol of course

L1067[16:17:54] <Flashfire> It would change so frequently it wouldn't matter

L1068[16:17:55] <tterrag> then you can just increment the hue

L1069[16:17:58] <PaleoCrafter> and HSV, yeah

L1070[16:18:06] <williewillus> what's those?

L1071[16:18:11] <Flashfire> Is there a set method for item stack color?

L1072[16:18:17] <PaleoCrafter> Hue Saturation Value/Brighntess/Luminance

L1073[16:18:42] <PaleoCrafter> wut, Flashfire

L1074[16:18:44] <tterrag> oh, I thought HSB because brightness

L1075[16:18:45] <williewillus> you just override that method

L1076[16:18:46] <tterrag> bu tyeah it's HSV

L1077[16:18:48] <williewillus> in your item

L1078[16:19:02] <PaleoCrafter> you can use HSV, HSB and HSL :P

L1079[16:19:07] <PaleoCrafter> all mean the same thing :P

L1080[16:19:14] <Flashfire> Also items classes don't have an update method so how can I constantly increment it?

L1081[16:19:21] <PaleoCrafter> system time + modulo :P

L1082[16:19:33] <PaleoCrafter> (besides, they do have an update method)

L1083[16:19:52] <Flashfire> Oh, well then

L1084[16:20:11] <Flashfire> This is much easier than I expected, thanks

L1085[16:20:12] <tterrag> but that is only called when in player inv

L1086[16:20:17] <PaleoCrafter> yeah

L1087[16:21:14] <Flashfire> I'm not seeing this itemstack color method in here

L1088[16:21:39] <williewillus> Item.getColorFromItemStack?

L1089[16:21:41] <PaleoCrafter> Item.getColorFromItemStack, I'm having it open right here in IDEA :P

L1090[16:21:45] <williewillus> takes an stack and int

L1091[16:21:47] <Flashfire> Oh Item

L1092[16:21:53] <williewillus> you override it

L1093[16:22:01] <Flashfire> Not in there either

L1094[16:22:25] <Flashfire> Sorry it's just private >.>

L1095[16:22:37] <PaleoCrafter> it's public :P

L1096[16:23:03] <tterrag> !gm getColorFromItemStack

L1097[16:23:05] <williewillus> http://i.gyazo.com/3d191bfbbedb34508a383ece2aeb69e7.png

L1098[16:23:23] <tterrag> its there

L1099[16:23:26] <Flashfire> Yeah it is public, I was looking from another class

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L1102[16:23:38] <Flashfire> Is this getColorFromItemStack like a set method as well as a get?

L1103[16:23:42] <williewillus> no

L1104[16:23:47] <PaleoCrafter> you flipping override it :P

L1105[16:23:55] <MattDahEpic> who is hyped for fallout4?

L1106[16:23:57] <williewillus> Item objs are stateless :p

L1107[16:23:59] <Flashfire> Alright, got it

L1108[16:24:09] <PaleoCrafter> that design should be familiar to you by now :P

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L1110[16:25:39] <Flashfire> How do I interpret this integer? "16777215"

L1111[16:25:55] <Flashfire> Is it concatenated hsv or what?

L1112[16:26:15] <PaleoCrafter> it's the desugared 0xFFFFFF (RGB encoded as hex)

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L1114[16:26:24] <PaleoCrafter> it's white :P

L1115[16:26:31] <PaleoCrafter> you need to convert from HSV to RGB

L1116[16:26:32] <Flashfire> Ah, ok I get it

L1117[16:26:40] <Flashfire> Don't I want hsv?

L1118[16:26:48] <MattDahEpic> you return hsv

L1119[16:26:57] <PaleoCrafter> you return RGB :P

L1120[16:27:05] <MattDahEpic> humph

L1121[16:27:20] <PaleoCrafter> and you get the RGB value from a HSV one

L1122[16:27:34] <PaleoCrafter> let me see, I think I have some color cycling code somewhere

L1123[16:27:42] <Flashfire> I'd like to see it

L1124[16:29:17] <PaleoCrafter> hm, it's rather specific to my libraries :D

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L1127[16:29:42] <Flashfire> Ok, do I use Color.RGBtoHSB or is there something built into forge?

L1128[16:29:57] <PaleoCrafter> don't use that AWT thing :P

L1129[16:30:05] <halvors> Hi. Anyone else got strange crashes when trying to build with ForgeGradle on Windows 10?

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L1131[16:30:23] <gigaherz> I haven't been ableto upgrade yet *cries*

L1132[16:30:36] <PaleoCrafter> u nub

L1133[16:30:37] <MattDahEpic> i upgraded and can build fine

L1134[16:30:45] <Flashfire> I haven't even cared about upgrading

L1135[16:30:51] <williewillus> my dev env is completely fine

L1136[16:31:02] <williewillus> what error you get?

L1137[16:31:09] <Flashfire> So if I don't use the awt method, what else is there?

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L1139[16:31:48] <halvors> gigaherz: How could you not? Did you try running this? http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

L1140[16:32:03] <halvors> williewillus: 2 sec

L1141[16:32:05] <diesieben07> Flashfire, 0xRRGGBB replace RR with the value for red, GG with the value for green, etc.

L1142[16:32:11] <diesieben07> you literally type it into the code like that.

L1143[16:32:18] <gigaherz> halvors: yes

L1144[16:32:21] <diesieben07> it represents an integer, specified in hexadecimal

L1145[16:32:23] <PaleoCrafter> https://gist.github.com/PaleoCrafter/e4e9b1b34431056ff041 be aware, Scala ahead

L1146[16:32:25] <gigaherz> after around 75-80%

L1147[16:32:26] <shadekiller666> 0xAARRGGBB if you want alpha

L1148[16:32:32] <gigaherz> it BSODed after a reboot

L1149[16:32:43] <gigaherz> recovery failed, so the setup itself decided to rollback to win7

L1150[16:32:44] <williewillus> the method in question doesn't take alpha though

L1151[16:32:46] <gigaherz> I haven'tried again yet

L1152[16:32:47] <Flashfire> But I want HSV

L1153[16:33:02] <diesieben07> Flashfire, http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/color/hsv-to-rgb.htm

L1154[16:33:10] <diesieben07> google first result... seriously.

L1155[16:33:21] <PaleoCrafter> oh, lol, I actually do use the awt class as well

L1156[16:33:28] <Flashfire> Thank you, just what I needed

L1157[16:33:29] <PaleoCrafter> that needs to be changed immediately

L1158[16:33:50] <halvors> williewillus: I get this runtime error. The missing class is clearly present in the JAR. http://pastebin.com/vhjHVPWD

L1159[16:33:52] <Flashfire> I didn't know what to google because I find a lot of general java stuff isn't the best option for forge

L1160[16:33:57] <PaleoCrafter> oh, right, mine didn't work correctly for some weird ass reason

L1161[16:34:01] <halvors> gigaherz: Did it not work?

L1162[16:34:11] <gigaherz> read up

L1163[16:34:23] <gigaherz> BSOD during SECOND_BOOT, recovery failed, automatic rollback happened

L1164[16:34:31] <halvors> Oh.

L1165[16:34:43] <MattDahEpic> SECOND UNDERSCORE BOOT

L1166[16:34:53] <williewillus> MattDahEpic: that's how it reports the error

L1167[16:34:58] <halvors> williewillus: It builds just fine on Travis-CI, exactly the same code: https://travis-ci.org/halvors/Electrometrics/builds/73370909

L1168[16:34:58] <gigaherz> MattDahEpic: well that's what the error message said

L1169[16:35:22] <williewillus> mine failed on INSTALL_RECOVERY_ENVIRONMENT because apparently my comp shipped with a bad recovery partition :p

L1170[16:35:24] <williewillus> ended up clean installing

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L1172[16:37:18] <halvors> williewillus: It runs fine when manually adding a run configuration in IntelliJ. The problem only occurs when using "gradlew runClient" from ForgeGradle.

L1173[16:37:31] <williewillus> weird

L1174[16:37:52] <halvors> Think i'm gonna post this as a potential bug :)

L1175[16:37:52] <PaleoCrafter> why would you

L1176[16:39:57] <williewillus> its not reproducible though

L1177[16:40:09] <williewillus> couple of us have w10 and our envs are fine :p

L1178[16:40:16] <williewillus> have you tried cleaning and resetupping?

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L1180[16:42:12] <PaleoCrafter> I mean, why would you run the runClient task, lol

L1181[16:42:14] <PaleoCrafter> ^ halvors

L1182[16:43:07] <halvors> PaleoCrafter: Why not?

L1183[16:43:21] <halvors> williewillus: Yeah.

L1184[16:43:22] <PaleoCrafter> because you usually just run from your IDE? :P

L1185[16:43:41] <williewillus> genIntellijruns -> use the run configs :p

L1186[16:43:43] <halvors> PaleoCrafter: I'm doing that.

L1187[16:44:10] <halvors> But stumbled over it. Sometimes i use runClient when in gradle CLI :)

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L1195[17:11:50] <Manusoftar> sorry to bother again guys, but im a little confused here, still don't understand completely how this Forge thing works, all this usage of reflection is a little tougth (perhaps typo, english isn't my first language :P)

L1196[17:12:25] <diesieben07> what are you confused with? :D

L1197[17:12:29] <Manusoftar> Im trying to suscribe an event so whenever the player tries to destroy a particular block (which pos i saved on a list) the event is cancelled as i was suggested

L1198[17:13:24] <Manusoftar> My main class has -> MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.register( the_class_that_listens_for_break_event );

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L1200[17:13:48] <diesieben07> that sounds fine

L1201[17:14:31] <Manusoftar> this is the code that should listen for the event (which is inside the the_class_that_listens... ) -> http://pastebin.com/c3DHcTmk

L1202[17:15:13] <diesieben07> the parameters to the annotatino are not needed and the check for isCancelable is not needed either

L1203[17:15:31] <Manusoftar> i should also add that the prior function is on a class that extends CommandBase because im using chat commands to do other things

L1204[17:15:50] <diesieben07> what "prior function"?

L1205[17:16:06] <Manusoftar> http://pastebin.com/c3DHcTmk

L1206[17:16:12] <Manusoftar> this one ^

L1207[17:16:29] <diesieben07> why? make a separate class for your event handlers

L1208[17:16:37] <Manusoftar> ok

L1209[17:17:15] <Manusoftar> PaleoCrafter said that an @SuscribeEvent could be placed anywhere so instead of creating another class i just placed it on my current one, but i'll try that

L1210[17:17:37] <Manusoftar> Should i extend or implement any class/interface in particular??

L1211[17:17:37] <diesieben07> well, he is technically right.

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L1213[17:17:42] <diesieben07> No, just make a class

L1214[17:17:55] <Manusoftar> so it should work as it is anyway?

L1215[17:18:00] <PaleoCrafter> liar, I said the *handler* can be anywhere

L1216[17:18:02] <Manusoftar> technically work...

L1217[17:18:07] <PaleoCrafter> @SubscribeEvent still only goes on methods :P

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L1219[17:18:50] <Manusoftar> but isn't SuscribeEvent the annotation that goes right before the method that handles the event?

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L1223[17:24:08] <Manusoftar> is there any good guide on Minecraft 1.8 modding cause all the guides i've found so far are a little outdated and things changed a lot from 1.7 to 1.8 as i've seen??

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L1228[17:28:53] <Cricket> the only stuff that has changed were rendering

L1229[17:28:55] <Cricket> reall

L1230[17:28:57] <Cricket> really*

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L1234[17:40:29] <Lex_> fry|S_I_S_, you about?

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L1236[17:43:51] <loosebolton> Where does forge put the decompiled files? Gradle can't seem to find them in the build script

L1237[17:46:05] <loosebolton> e.g. it tells me net.minecraftforge.fml does not exist

L1238[17:46:13] <Cricket> wow you messed something up

L1239[17:46:15] <diesieben07> gradle tells you that?

L1240[17:46:25] <Cricket> #ForgeGradle

L1241[17:46:36] <loosebolton> The java compiler tells me that, because it can't find the files

L1242[17:46:51] <diesieben07> when running gradle build?

L1243[17:47:18] <loosebolton> Yes. When it reaches the :compileJava target

L1244[17:48:24] <diesieben07> did you mess with the build.gradle? does running gradle setupDecompWorkspace work?

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L1246[17:50:03] <loosebolton> setupDecompWorkspace does work. I did not change build.gradle. Is there a command to rerun the setup and force another decompile? Currently it is skipping it since it's already done it

L1247[17:50:42] <diesieben07> if its skipping it that means the files are there... not sure whats up with that.

L1248[17:50:48] <diesieben07> you could force it by deleting your gradle cache

L1249[17:50:52] <diesieben07> but thats like the brute-force method

L1250[17:50:56] <PaleoCrafter> AbrarSyed ^

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L1252[17:51:30] <loosebolton> hm

L1253[17:51:55] <loosebolton> I guess I'll download an IDE and see if it works in there before looking farther

L1254[17:51:57] <AbrarSyed> delete the project/.gradle

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L1260[18:01:01] <killjoy> What in gson would cause an AssertionError?

L1261[18:01:20] <AbrarSyed> ?stacktrace

L1262[18:01:56] <killjoy> Here's the head. http://pastebin.com/1ngucyuP

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L1264[18:03:53] <AbrarSyed> what gson version?

L1265[18:04:03] <killjoy> It's on mc 1.8

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L1267[18:04:12] <killjoy> probs 2.2.4

L1268[18:04:27] <diesieben07> what enums are you trying to serialize?

L1269[18:04:36] <diesieben07> you cant serialize enums when someone has used EnumHelper on them

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L1271[18:04:42] <killjoy> None?

L1272[18:04:57] * AbrarSyed shrusg

L1273[18:04:58] <diesieben07> thats impossible, the error is from EnumTypeAdapter

L1274[18:05:17] <diesieben07> or are you not the tabbychat author?

L1275[18:05:25] <killjoy> I'm trying to serialize a list of this. https://github.com/killjoy1221/TabbyChat-2/blob/master/TabbyChat-Common/src/main/java/mnm/mods/tabbychat/ChatMessage.java

L1276[18:06:03] <diesieben07> and you registered the IChatComponent.Serializer?

L1277[18:06:07] <killjoy> yes

L1278[18:08:12] <diesieben07> why the heck is that thing trying to serialize an enum...

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L1280[18:09:52] <diesieben07> aha

L1281[18:10:00] <diesieben07> did you also register the CHatStyle serializer?

L1282[18:10:05] <diesieben07> if not, that is your problem

L1283[18:10:09] <killjoy> Ah.

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L1285[18:11:28] <killjoy> Someone should put a description on IChatComponent.Serializer as a reminder to also register ChatStyle

L1286[18:12:48] <killjoy> I'm also seeing a EnumTypeAdapterFactory. What's that for?

L1287[18:12:52] <diesieben07> feel free :)

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L1291[18:14:19] <diesieben07> hmm not quite sure what thats for, probably to make sure the enums are properly serialized

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L1294[18:15:24] <killjoy> Looks like it's for the enum serialization. calls name().toLowerCase(Locale.US)

L1295[18:15:38] <diesieben07> well yeah

L1296[18:16:16] <diesieben07> but gson does that already

L1297[18:16:17] <killjoy> And I made a serializer for chat formatting and everything

L1298[18:16:26] <killjoy> it screws up with obfuscation

L1299[18:17:09] <diesieben07> yes, but if mojangs thing calls name... it also would break with obfuscation

L1300[18:18:11] <killjoy> But does it?

L1301[18:18:40] <diesieben07> well obviously it doesnt

L1302[18:19:30] <diesieben07> it is quite a weird class, func_151232_a checks for instanceof enum

L1303[18:19:36] <diesieben07> but nothing non-enum can ever get there

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L1308[18:30:07] <gigaherz> well that helped, from 16gb appdata, to 6gb appdata

L1309[18:30:07] <gigaherz> XD

L1310[18:30:15] <gigaherz> turned .minecraft into a symlink

L1311[18:30:39] <gigaherz> did the same with the Temp folder that some apps insist on putting there even though my TEMP environment var is changed

L1312[18:31:03] <gigaherz> time to unplug everything non-essential

L1313[18:31:09] <gigaherz> and retry the win10 upgrade

L1314[18:31:21] <gigaherz> bbl, one way or another

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L1317[18:33:03] <loosebolton> Fixed my issue. Downgraded to jdk 7. Is forge incompatible with jdk 8? If so I'm an idiot

L1318[18:33:21] <Lex_> no, its not

L1319[18:33:28] <Lex_> works just fine on 8 and 9

L1320[18:33:46] <loosebolton> hm. I'll look into it later to see what the real problem was.

L1321[18:35:39] <Manusoftar> i have using it with j8_045 and it works just fine

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L1363[20:12:18] <loosebolton> Noob question: how do I refer to an Item e.g. for an ItemStack? Item.diamond gives a cannot find symbol error

L1364[20:12:36] <MattDahEpic> new ItemStack(Items.diamond)

L1365[20:12:55] <MattDahEpic> note the s in items

L1366[20:13:09] <MattDahEpic> item is not where vanilla items are refrenced from

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L1368[20:14:46] <shadekiller666> welll

L1369[20:14:51] <MattDahEpic> ?

L1370[20:15:10] <shadekiller666> depending on if you're in 1.7.10 or 1.8...

L1371[20:15:14] <shadekiller666> one version they're in Item, the other they're in Items

L1372[20:15:21] <loosebolton> There we go, successful build.

L1373[20:15:27] <shadekiller666> same thing for blocks

L1374[20:15:28] <loosebolton> Thanks

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L1377[20:18:17] <gigaherz> win10!

L1378[20:18:26] <gigaherz> I forgot I had USBlyzer installed

L1379[20:18:29] <gigaherz> it BSODs in win10

L1380[20:18:45] <shadekiller666> lol

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L1392[21:13:44] <VikeStep> so, was digging through the assests in Win10 MC. and it seems that GUIs are made with JSONs there

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L1394[21:17:57] <Lex_> they are all json driven

L1395[21:19:21] <shadekiller666> what language is Win10 MC written in?

L1396[21:19:27] <VikeStep> for anyone interested, here is the inventory one: http://pastebin.com/xkn3Qg3Z

L1397[21:19:28] <VikeStep> C++

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L1399[21:22:30] <shadekiller666> good lord

L1400[21:22:58] <VikeStep> also, the whole game is 83MB

L1401[21:24:27] <shadekiller666> interesting

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L1404[21:27:31] <Teamy> How can I tell if an itemstack is a placeable block?>

L1405[21:31:06] <shadekiller666> check if its a stack of ItemBlock and call canPlaceBlockAt or something?

L1406[21:32:06] <Teamy> ok, thanks ill check it out

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L1412[21:47:22] <gigaherz> [04:19] (shadekiller666): what language is Win10 MC written in?

L1413[21:47:28] <Manusoftar> im trying to hook the breakEvent unsuccessfully, i registered the class with the event listener on the MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS and also on the FMLCommonHandler.instance().bus() and none of them seems to be able to fire my handler. I put the #SuscribeEvent before my handler method and also tried with the @EventHandler. Im on 1.8, any idea??

L1414[21:47:28] <gigaherz> Win10MC is a port of the MCPE

L1415[21:47:32] <gigaherz> with some extras

L1416[21:48:11] <Lex_> MC.C will POTENTIALLY be moddable. Once it's fully released and I have free time again {re-writing tons of tools for mcp fun u.u} i'll take a look at it. However until then anything you do is just for fun.

L1417[21:48:25] <Lex_> Also MC.C {I need to decided a good name for it} IS MCPE

L1418[21:48:30] <Lex_> Same exact code base

L1419[21:48:36] <VikeStep> Would you use DLL Injection?

L1420[21:48:48] <Lex_> yup

L1421[21:48:57] <Lex_> In some form or another

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L1424[21:50:10] <VikeStep> I've spent the last couple days learning DLL Injection. Want to see if I can do anything to it at this stage

L1425[21:50:33] <Lex_> Good luck ;) Its a interesting skill that takes quite a while to master.

L1426[21:50:59] <Lex_> But derping around with native internals is my form of a good saturday night so :)

L1427[21:51:02] <VikeStep> I'd previously learnt the basics of assembly so I already knew a bit, it was just the disassembling part of it that was difficult

L1428[21:51:21] <Lex_> No obfusication anywhere?

L1429[21:51:30] <VikeStep> oh, I haven't started yet :P

L1430[21:51:39] <VikeStep> i only just got Win10 started up

L1431[21:51:42] <Lex_> oh, well here's hoping there isn't.

L1432[21:52:02] <Manusoftar> which is the right event bus for the block events?

L1433[21:52:06] <Manusoftar> on 1.8

L1434[21:52:11] <Lex_> forges

L1435[21:52:13] <VikeStep> I've heard people claim that they stripped the symbol table

L1436[21:52:24] <VikeStep> that MCPE used to leave for modders

L1437[21:52:38] <Lex_> symbol tables dont exist in native apps, unless they specifically leave it

L1438[21:52:47] <Manusoftar> Lex_: you mean this -> FMLCommonHandler.instance().bus() ?

L1439[21:53:01] <Lex_> nop that is fml

L1440[21:53:19] <Manusoftar> isn't fml (forge mod loader) ?

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L1443[21:54:32] <VikeStep> what was interesting, is that the folder to access Windows Store apps is by default locked out for even administrators. Had to edit administrator permissions to get into the folder

L1444[21:54:37] <Manusoftar> what the heck happend??

L1445[21:54:44] <VikeStep> you were kicked for pinging lex

L1446[21:54:50] <Manusoftar> ?

L1447[21:54:55] <pig> Lol

L1448[21:54:55] <VikeStep> it's in the topic

L1449[21:55:08] <pig> How's the update Lex_

L1450[21:55:10] <Mitchellbrine> yeah, rule #3

L1451[21:55:11] <gigaherz> Manusoftar: you shall not mention lex's full nickname in vain ;P

L1452[21:55:19] <Mitchellbrine> xD

L1453[21:55:26] <Manusoftar> but i dont even know his ip, how the heck could i even ping his pc??

L1454[21:55:33] * gigaherz facepalms

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L1456[21:55:44] *** pig was kicked by Lex_ (Going well teaching MappyingTopy about inheratance to deal with the synthetics issues but meh))

L1457[21:55:55] <gigaherz> Manusoftar: in IRC terms, "pinging" means mentioning a nickname

L1458[21:55:56] <VikeStep> pinging is when you say someone's username in full

L1459[21:56:02] <Manusoftar> ok

L1460[21:56:17] <Manusoftar> is lex a bot??

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L1462[21:56:21] <gigaherz> no

L1463[21:56:26] <Mitchellbrine> no

L1464[21:56:31] <Manusoftar> cause it was like an automatic kick

L1465[21:56:47] <Mitchellbrine> he's gotten a lot of experience with the amount of people breaking rules

L1466[21:56:49] <VikeStep> ^

L1467[21:56:52] <gigaherz> he just really dislikes having his nickname mentioned when not necessary

L1468[21:56:52] <Manusoftar> also p*g was kick almost instantly

L1469[21:57:08] <VikeStep> why did you say p*g xD

L1470[21:57:08] <Vorquel> you can say pig

L1471[21:57:25] <gigaherz> maybe his irc client has an auto-censor feature ;P

L1472[21:57:31] <Manusoftar> well it was not my intention to break any rules, i just didn't know that "slang" on irc

L1473[21:57:32] <Vorquel> Only L*x needs that kind of treatment

L1474[21:57:52] <gigaherz> just say "lex", really he always has a nickname with at least one extra character

L1475[21:57:58] <Manusoftar> at least he didnt banned me...

L1476[21:58:11] <VikeStep> ban is for repeat offenders, and its usually for one day

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L1478[21:58:15] *** Vorquel was kicked by Lex_ (Just cuz its funny and i think you're dumb, "Lex" does not ping me. So talk normally))

L1479[21:58:35] <gigaherz> that's on purpose, as far as I know, so that you can direct your sentences to him, without causing a ping on his computer ;P

L1480[21:59:03] <Manusoftar> so it has something to do with network pinging after all...

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L1482[21:59:12] <Manusoftar> ???

L1483[21:59:15] <gigaherz> no

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L1485[21:59:19] <Manusoftar> or you mean a beep

L1486[21:59:23] <gigaherz> it means the "ding" sound the client makes

L1487[21:59:24] <gigaherz> Xd

L1488[21:59:26] <Vorquel> :|

L1489[21:59:29] <pig> K Lex_. Gl with that

L1490[21:59:34] <Manusoftar> oh i see

L1491[21:59:43] <gigaherz> and now you are about to see what happens when you do it often

L1492[22:00:00] <Manusoftar> not because i wont do it ever again. :P

L1493[22:00:00] *** pig was kicked by Lex_ (<3 Go for a swim))

L1494[22:00:08] <gigaherz> no bug pig just did XD

L1495[22:00:19] <gigaherz> some people don't learn XD

L1496[22:00:51] <Teamy> "pig [~iChun@104.200.137.171] has been kicked" was that actually ichun .-.?

L1497[22:00:54] <VikeStep> yes

L1498[22:01:06] <Teamy> neat

L1499[22:01:13] <gigaherz> oh hey that's a name I recognize

L1500[22:01:14] <Vorquel> But he prefers to be called pig here

L1501[22:01:21] <VikeStep> or hipsterpig

L1502[22:01:53] <gigaherz> GAH too much white in windows 10

L1503[22:02:12] <gigaherz> I try to make an effort to have all apps set as dark as possible

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L1505[22:02:31] <gigaherz> and now BAM taskbars, toolbars, menubars, and some apps even the whole screen pure eye-killing white

L1506[22:02:31] <pig> Lex_: push me.

L1507[22:02:41] <pig> Or... Kick

L1508[22:02:44] <pig> Whichever works

L1509[22:02:48] <Manusoftar> i learned my lesson ;)

L1510[22:02:54] <shadekiller666> giga, you can change colors of the task bar and windows and things

L1511[22:02:59] <gigaherz> yes

L1512[22:03:01] <gigaherz> the taskbar is dark

L1513[22:03:04] <gigaherz> my IDE is dark

L1514[22:03:07] <gigaherz> my mirc is dark

L1515[22:03:15] <gigaherz> but the moment I bring up the browser

L1516[22:03:19] <gigaherz> it's a blinding flash

L1517[22:03:40] <VikeStep> I'm gonna use Microsoft Edge for a week, because who knows, change might be good

L1518[22:03:45] <gigaherz> i'm not

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L1520[22:03:56] <gigaherz> not because it's bad, it isn't.

L1521[22:04:06] <gigaherz> I just don't like that kind of minimalistic UI

L1522[22:04:28] <gigaherz> I rejected Chrome, rejected firefox's Australis, and now I reject Edge

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L1524[22:05:17] <shadekiller666> ?

L1525[22:05:21] <Broad-mobile> When I used edge a couple weeks ago, it still didn't support all of the websites I frequent...

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L1527[22:05:44] <Teamy> what do you use gigaher?

L1528[22:05:51] <gigaherz> right now, Palemoon

L1529[22:05:55] <Teamy> cool

L1530[22:05:56] <gigaherz> which is based on Firefox 24

L1531[22:05:57] <shadekiller666> is Edge just like a wrapper for IE or something? it seems like it is...

L1532[22:06:06] <gigaherz> but I'm considering a switch to Waterfox

L1533[22:06:15] <shadekiller666> IE still exists on windows 10 for some god forsaken reason

L1534[22:06:17] <gigaherz> but since Waterfox uses Australis, I'll have to install classic theme restorer

L1535[22:06:32] <VikeStep> yeah, I tried to open an XML file in Win10 and the default program was IE for some reason

L1536[22:06:41] <gigaherz> shadekiller666: it exists because some websites DO require the old tech that Edge doesn't have

L1537[22:06:45] <Manusoftar> so, going to what we where talking, when you said forges event_bus, did you mean MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS ??

L1538[22:06:52] <VikeStep> yes Manusoftar

L1539[22:06:55] <gigaherz> yes.

L1540[22:06:56] <Manusoftar> thanks

L1541[22:07:00] <Broad-mobile> They say it's new....and sleeker that ie...on multiple levels...though I haven't seen the performance improvements...

L1542[22:07:08] <Manusoftar> ill keep trying

L1543[22:07:21] <VikeStep> Broad-mobile, apparently it predicts the sites you will visit next and preload them

L1544[22:07:23] <VikeStep> from what I read

L1545[22:07:23] <shadekiller666> becuase screw 2015 lets stay in 2000 where IE was the only good web browser

L1546[22:07:34] <gigaherz> Broad-mobile: the performance improvements show on javascript benchmarks

L1547[22:07:39] <gigaherz> WebGL and such

L1548[22:08:06] <gigaherz> shadekiller666: it's not Microsoft's fault that many websites still exists that simply do not work with modern browsers

L1549[22:08:12] <Broad-mobile> Ahhh...I heard stuff like less memory usage and the likes of that

L1550[22:08:18] <shadekiller666> i know

L1551[22:08:22] <shadekiller666> thats what i was saying

L1552[22:08:23] <gigaherz> as much as MS would like to move on, the people who pay demand it

L1553[22:08:24] <gigaherz> XD

L1554[22:09:03] <shadekiller666> at what point do you say fuck you to the people who pay the bills because they don't want to use that money to update shit rather than have you still support it

L1555[22:09:30] <Manusoftar> i want to apologyze if im bothering somehow, but i want to make clear that i've searched on google which im asking you guys but as you may have already seen, the vast majority of forge modding guides that can be found on google are for minecraft 1.7.2 or 1.7.10 and even more to older versions 1.6.x so i have no other option but to ask the wizards on this channel... ;)

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L1557[22:10:23] <gigaherz> hmmm

L1558[22:10:40] <gigaherz> https://github.com/riverar/uxstyle + http://cu88.deviantart.com/art/Numix-Theme-For-Windows-10-RTM-549932204

L1559[22:10:41] <VikeStep> not bothering anyone (at least not me) so ask away

L1560[22:10:42] <gigaherz> let's try

L1561[22:10:59] <gigaherz> Manusoftar: really if you were bothering, you wouldn't be here anymore ;P

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L1563[22:11:06] <VikeStep> Manusoftar, i do recommend however to look at open source mods and the vanilla code for inspiration. Generally if I don't know how to do something I look there

L1564[22:11:12] <gigaherz> you made one mistake, dont' be why because of it

L1565[22:11:12] <gigaherz> XD

L1566[22:11:43] <gigaherz> learn from it, and stand stronger afterward

L1567[22:11:59] <VikeStep> like the other day I wanted to know how to use the VillagerRegistry, found an example in TiC that did pretty much the same thing I wanted

L1568[22:12:51] <gigaherz> there's two conflicting suggestions

L1569[22:13:02] <gigaherz> 1. Look for examples of what you want to achieve, but

L1570[22:13:16] <gigaherz> 2. If you doubt, ask, don't try to do something without knowing what you are doing

L1571[22:13:47] <gigaherz> there's too much code in mods that was written without proper knowledge of the situation

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L1573[22:14:55] <Manusoftar> well thank you for your support!

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L1575[22:16:13] <shadekiller666> and never copy and paste code from examples without trying to figure out how it works

L1576[22:16:54] <shadekiller666> sometimes you will find that, understanding how someone else did something will allow you to do it in a way that is better

L1577[22:18:03] <Manusoftar> yay! it worked at last!!!

L1578[22:18:54] <Manusoftar> wize words shade..

L1579[22:19:28] <Flashfire> Does anyone have an example of an item with a constant looping animation?

L1580[22:19:40] <shadekiller666> fire?

L1581[22:19:50] <shadekiller666> lava

L1582[22:19:52] <shadekiller666> water

L1583[22:20:10] <Flashfire> I mean one that has a vertical sheet for sprites like compass

L1584[22:20:16] <shadekiller666> fire

L1585[22:20:22] <shadekiller666> lava

L1586[22:20:25] <shadekiller666> water

L1587[22:20:26] <Manusoftar> im using SEUS and Optifine and leaves also have a looping animation...

L1588[22:20:30] <Flashfire> Are any of those items?

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L1590[22:20:54] <shadekiller666> the enchantment overlay loops

L1591[22:21:14] <Flashfire> That's a different kind of thing though, it's not related to the actual sprite

L1592[22:21:36] <VikeStep> the clock?

L1593[22:21:47] <VikeStep> just do something similar so it runs faster

L1594[22:21:52] <shadekiller666> compasses and clocks are both hardcoded

L1595[22:21:56] <Flashfire> ^

L1596[22:22:33] <Flashfire> When I asked for an example I was thinking a mod

L1597[22:22:43] <shadekiller666> could you count the bow as a looping texture?

L1598[22:22:56] <shadekiller666> are those hardcoded?

L1599[22:23:04] <Flashfire> Idk I will check\

L1600[22:23:59] <Flashfire> Looks like it but I could be wrong

L1601[22:24:21] <shadekiller666> prismarine changes colors

L1602[22:24:46] <shadekiller666> though i think thats handled by an overlay similar to how redstone and grass are overlays

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L1605[22:25:25] <Flashfire> I'm looking for something that uses one image

L1606[22:25:33] <Flashfire> I want at least 72 sprites

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L1610[22:32:53] <shadekiller666> giga, about the white title bars in windows 10, you can make them all match the color of your task bar and such with themes

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L1612[22:33:30] <shadekiller666> my task bar is kinda a tranparent black, but most of my windows are white title bars :p

L1613[22:34:16] <shadekiller666> wish windows could change the color of programs themselves instead of just the title bar but whatever :P

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L1617[22:42:28] <Manusoftar> is there any way to set custom properties on "regular" blocks?

L1618[22:43:04] <shadekiller666> what?

L1619[22:47:37] <Lex_> humm need to think of a simple way to sort classes in a hiarachy.

L1620[22:48:12] <Manusoftar> the thing is i need to protect some blocks, i was suggested to make my own breakevent handler and check if the block that fired the event should be broken or not. The thing is that, by now im storing the position of the blocks that shouldnt be broken on a list which is in a separated class (separate from the class that handles the breakevent), so either i make some nasty public attribute

L1621[22:48:12] <Manusoftar> for that list or i set some kind of flag on the block itself to then be able to recongnize if it should be breakable or not

L1622[22:49:03] <shadekiller666> or you could put the event handler in the same class

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L1624[22:49:31] <Manusoftar> i was recommended not to do it by PaleoCrafter

L1625[22:50:04] <Manusoftar> also that class extends CommandBase not sure if that could intefere somehow with this other handler

L1626[22:50:35] <shadekiller666> doesn't matter what else the class extends

L1627[22:50:36] <Manusoftar> Paleo suggested me to have a separated class for my event handlres

L1628[22:50:53] <Manusoftar> and it seemed to be cleanner but hierachy is killing me ;P

L1629[22:50:56] <Manusoftar> :P

L1630[22:51:42] <shadekiller666> at some point you go against that kind of design ideology for some things because its a better way of doing what you need to do

L1631[22:52:11] <Manusoftar> im sorry this was the original message -> <diesieben07> why? make a separate class for your event handlers

L1632[22:52:21] <shadekiller666> i know

L1633[22:52:48] <shadekiller666> but there are times when its better to put things in the same class because its easier to access the data you need

L1634[22:53:03] <shadekiller666> and java doesn't have to switch scopes and things and what not

L1635[22:53:19] <Manusoftar> yeah is a pain in the ass!

L1636[22:54:31] <shadekiller666> all but 1 of the 8 or so classes that make up the OBJ loader are all in the same file, because its easier to reference things

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L1646[23:09:16] <Laceh> anyone here have a decent computer that can run shaders?

L1647[23:10:37] <shadekiller666> i would hope so, why

L1648[23:10:54] <Laceh> need a favour

L1649[23:11:00] <shadekiller666> k

L1650[23:11:19] <Laceh> pm

L1651[23:11:19] <Laceh> ?

L1652[23:11:25] <shadekiller666> ok

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L1663[23:33:43] <Manusoftar> Laceh: it depends on how much fps do you expect, im using SEUS with Optifine and im running a little over 30fps but sometimes it drops down to 10-20fps

L1664[23:34:50] <Laceh> I was just needing someone to take some screenshots lmfao

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