OCLogs: 2015-07-04.log

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L2[00:04:22] <Commoble> I'm liking this http://i.imgur.com/Vu8v48c.png

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L4[00:06:07] <Commoble> Unfortunately I have to use a TileEntitySpecialRenderer to do that so I'll have to figure out how to manually prevent the inner faces from rendering http://i.imgur.com/xX235cF.png

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L34[01:58:01] <covers1624> any one know what the float passed in to renderTileEntityAt does? 1.7.10 btw

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L38[02:03:50] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20150704 mappings to Forge Maven.

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L42[02:08:19] <Wuppy> ugh it's so damn hot

L43[02:08:21] <Wuppy> it's insane

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L45[02:12:17] <ThePsionic> Wuppy: I'm too hot (hot damn)

L46[02:12:23] <Wuppy> heh

L47[02:13:34] <mallrat208> covers1624, only spot I've seen it used is when rendering a chest open/closed... also not looked too hard

L48[02:14:48] <covers1624> MFR names it partialTick, i dont need to use it as none of the other things ive seen use it so ill just leve it, when in doubt ill just log it and see if it has anything obvious stored in it

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L53[02:30:43] <diesieben07> hey all you bit twiddlers... i need to find the i-th set bit in an int

L54[02:31:23] <diesieben07> so for x(0b10010, 1) it would return 4 because the 2nd set bit is at position 4

L55[02:32:51] <Zaggy1024> well you could iterate over the bits

L56[02:33:00] <Zaggy1024> not sure if there's a faster way to do it, but that's the simplest way I now of

L57[02:33:15] <diesieben07> yeah thats what i am doing currently Integer.numberOfLeadingZeros in a loop

L58[02:33:23] <diesieben07> *trailing not leading

L59[02:35:40] <Techcable> diesieben07: for (int i = 0; i < 32; i++) { byte currentBit = (number & (0x0001 >> i)) << i } would be my guess

L60[02:36:02] <diesieben07> you can do better :P

L61[02:36:12] <diesieben07> if you use numberOfTrailingZeros

L62[02:36:18] <diesieben07> because that is an x86 instruction

L63[02:36:19] <Zaggy1024> what does that even do? :P

L64[02:36:32] <diesieben07> nOTZ(0b1000) = 3

L65[02:36:39] <diesieben07> nOTZ(0b1010) = 1

L66[02:36:42] <Wuppy> https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11667433_931224856945013_7670607458606144502_n.png?oh=8ee88b824abb36ca38010de31cf84400&oe=5614CE4B

L67[02:36:42] <Zaggy1024> hm

L68[02:36:55] <Zaggy1024> but then how would you get the 0th set bit?

L69[02:37:14] <diesieben07> just call nOTZ once

L70[02:37:21] <Techcable> diesieben07: It says that it is implemented in java: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26209968/the-implements-of-integer-numberoftrailingzeros

L71[02:37:27] <diesieben07> i know it is

L72[02:37:31] <diesieben07> but it's an intrinsic

L73[02:37:33] <diesieben07> the JVM knows about it

L74[02:37:39] <diesieben07> the java code is just fallback

L75[02:37:49] <Techcable> Oh okay :)

L76[02:38:48] <Zaggy1024> you said you need the i-th set bit though

L77[02:38:52] <Zaggy1024> not the last set bit :P

L78[02:39:26] <diesieben07> yes

L79[02:39:36] <diesieben07> and so i call nOTZ i-1 times

L80[02:39:41] <diesieben07> and remove that bit from the number

L81[02:39:45] <Zaggy1024> ah

L82[02:39:48] <diesieben07> and then return nOTZ again

L83[02:40:11] <Zaggy1024> I see

L84[02:40:28] <Zaggy1024> have you checked if that is indeed faster than iterating over the bits and checking them individually? I'm curious :P

L85[02:40:44] <diesieben07> http://pastebin.com/dLVy9XWz

L86[02:41:01] <diesieben07> meh

L87[02:41:08] <diesieben07> not in the mood to fire up a proper benchmark

L88[02:41:12] <Zaggy1024> yeh

L89[02:41:22] <Zaggy1024> I wouldn't be either :P

L90[02:41:38] <diesieben07> ty though for confirming i do need a loop :D

L91[02:41:48] <Zaggy1024> er

L92[02:41:50] <Zaggy1024> I did?

L93[02:42:11] <diesieben07> someone did :D

L94[02:43:10] <diesieben07> oh hmm

L95[02:43:12] <diesieben07> i dont even need a loop :D

L96[02:43:20] <Zaggy1024> really?

L97[02:43:26] <Zaggy1024> how not?

L98[02:43:30] <diesieben07> because i need them one after the other

L99[02:43:36] <diesieben07> first 0, then 1, then 2 etc

L100[02:43:50] <diesieben07> so i just always remove the last one :D

L101[02:44:15] <Zaggy1024> heh, I don't understand

L102[02:44:27] <Zaggy1024> I think my brain is in standby mode

L103[02:44:28] <diesieben07> whatever :P

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L108[03:13:42] <Lumien> Is there a way i could get all wood planks with their actual metadata?

L109[03:13:55] <Lumien> Like as itemstacks

L110[03:14:04] <AbrarSyed> I think you want the ore dictionary

L111[03:14:20] <Lumien> vanilla planks for example are registered with the wildcard metadata though

L112[03:14:50] <AbrarSyed> may I ask why you need such a list?

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L114[03:15:18] <Lumien> Convenience really :P. I made custom crafting tables that work with any wooden planks.

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L116[03:15:38] <Lumien> And if i just add seperate recipes i would imagine it would be less hacky compared to handeling it in the recipe

L117[03:16:20] <AbrarSyed> why not just make an ore-dictionary aware recipe

L118[03:16:35] <AbrarSyed> then you can leverage the full pwoer of the ore dictionary.. for all the recipes..

L119[03:16:58] <AbrarSyed> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/master/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/oredict/ShapedOreRecipe.java

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L124[03:17:13] <Wuppy> I think I'm melting

L125[03:17:13] <AbrarSyed> ^ ore dictionary implementation of the vanilla recipe

L126[03:17:17] <Lumien> well i can't just use that or can i somehow define that all the wood planks are supposed to be the same one?

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L130[03:17:38] <AbrarSyed> Lumien, the whole point of the ore dictionary is to allow multiple items to be thaught of as the same item

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L132[03:17:52] <AbrarSyed> 10 mods add tin ore? a recipe can take them all by simply using the ore dict.

L133[03:17:54] <sham1> So.. wuppy melting is a ore duct implementation of vanilla recipe?

L134[03:17:56] <AbrarSyed> the same applies to planks and logs

L135[03:18:05] <Wuppy> I think so sham1

L136[03:18:24] <Lumien> yes, but in this case while i want people to be able to use ALL planks for this recipe it has to be the same planks in the whole recipe

L137[03:18:55] <sham1> So you don't want to mix and match

L138[03:19:18] <AbrarSyed> then implement your oreDict recipe class accordingly.

L139[03:19:35] <Zaggy1024> well you could just check if they all have the same metadata and item, no?

L140[03:19:49] <AbrarSyed> force it so that the ID and Meta of the item chosen by the ore dict must be the same throyughout a recipe..

L141[03:19:52] <AbrarSyed> im sure its not hard

L142[03:20:33] <Lumien> yes but if i do it like this the recipe won't really work in for example nei right?

L143[03:20:49] <sham1> Why wouldn't it

L144[03:21:07] <Zaggy1024> could use the NEI API, couldn't you?

L145[03:21:10] <AbrarSyed> wait.. is this for a custom crafting table of sorts? or just a normal vanilla recipe that you wanna do this with?

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L147[03:21:53] <Lumien> preferrable vanilla recipe

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L149[03:23:31] <AbrarSyed> then your best bet is to grab the entry from the ore dictionary in PostInit and iterate over all the items registerred for planks

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L151[03:23:54] <AbrarSyed> when it comes to things with wildcards.. your screwed really.. unless you wanna add a recipe for every possible meta.. which is a terrible idea

L152[03:24:24] <Zaggy1024> if you need matching planks, I assume that means that each result uses the crafting plank type?

L153[03:24:33] <Zaggy1024> how are you going to handle that?

L154[03:25:52] <AbrarSyed> I think the matching part is just a "that would be nice" thing

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L156[03:26:38] <Zaggy1024> doesn't match vanilla behavior though :P

L157[03:26:38] <Lumien> yeah, i could also just make the result be like the top left plank or something

L158[03:26:52] <Lumien> and i would handle the result in the recipe class

L159[03:26:52] <Zaggy1024> you would have to have dynamic textures or some crap then

L160[03:26:58] <Lumien> i just add some nbt to the result stack

L161[03:27:05] <Yamakaja> Could somebody help me with that? http://i.imgur.com/PlQefZP.png it fails to find the texture: http://pastebin.com/pBymwNp2

L162[03:27:37] <Zaggy1024> Yamakaja, it looks in assets/textures/blocks

L163[03:27:44] <Zaggy1024> not the models folder

L164[03:27:58] <Zaggy1024> er

L165[03:28:02] <Yamakaja> thats where i started, but it also didn't work

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L167[03:28:10] <Yamakaja> then i moved it over to try if it works there

L168[03:28:12] <Zaggy1024> wait what

L169[03:28:16] <Zaggy1024> I'm utterly confused now

L170[03:28:22] <Zaggy1024> where are you binding that texture?

L171[03:28:38] <Yamakaja> Custom Renderer class for my tile entity

L172[03:28:58] <Zaggy1024> uhm

L173[03:29:20] <Zaggy1024> well firstly, it looks for .png when you don't provide the extension, I believe...

L174[03:29:22] <Zaggy1024> so try it without that

L175[03:29:29] <Zaggy1024> but don't stick textures in models :P

L176[03:29:30] <AbrarSyed> Lumien, I believe that the moment you have a custom recipe clas, you lose the nEI compat.. unless you write that in as a plugin or something

L177[03:29:43] <AbrarSyed> and by NEI compat I mean the fancy recipe viewer thingy

L178[03:29:45] <Yamakaja> sure, i was just testing shit

L179[03:30:04] <Zaggy1024> yeh

L180[03:30:23] <Lumien> Couldn't i use Block.getSubBlocks to add the recipes to nei though? To get the planks that "actually" exist?

L181[03:30:41] <Zaggy1024> yeah, probably

L182[03:30:53] <Zaggy1024> if you have a list of Item instances that are only for planks

L183[03:31:13] <Zaggy1024> er Block instances

L184[03:31:42] <AbrarSyed> Lumien, well.. yes. Except the part about recipes only using Items.. and then you wouldnt have ore dictionary support and would thus lose out on all the fancy planks from all the fancy mods

L185[03:32:56] <Lumien> Yes but i mean use ShapedOreRecipe to allow for ore dictionary planks && IRecipe.matches for the "all planks the same".

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L187[03:33:27] <Lumien> And then use Block.getSubBlocks to add "seperate" recipes to nei since these are only required client side

L188[03:33:30] <Yamakaja> [10:31:39] [Client thread/WARN]: Failed to load texture: prcraft:textures/blocks/iron_processor_texture

L189[03:33:30] <Yamakaja> java.io.FileNotFoundException: prcraft:textures/blocks/iron_processor_texture

L190[03:33:36] <Yamakaja> now its failing again

L191[03:33:50] <Yamakaja> i'm using this to bind my texture: this.bindTexture(new ResourceLocation(Reference.MOD_ID + ":textures/blocks/iron_processor_texture"));

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L193[03:33:51] <Zaggy1024> and that error doesn't show up when you have the extension?

L194[03:33:58] <Yamakaja> it does

L195[03:34:20] <Yamakaja> (failing again = its still failing ... whopsie)

L196[03:34:26] <Zaggy1024> why is it looking for iron_processor_texture when the filename is iron_processor in that screenshot?

L197[03:34:36] <Yamakaja> changed it

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L199[03:34:42] <Lumien> add the .png

L200[03:34:43] <Zaggy1024> that's confusing :P

L201[03:34:48] <Zaggy1024> he had that before

L202[03:35:07] <Zaggy1024> I believe when looking for textures it adds the extensions automatically

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L205[03:35:22] <Lumien> i don't think it does that for resource locations

L206[03:35:22] <Zaggy1024> although I've never tested that theory, since I don't bind textures from resource locaitons that much

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L209[03:35:59] <Zaggy1024> but he said he gets file not found with and without the extension

L210[03:36:19] <Yamakaja> just tried it again with the extension

L211[03:36:19] <Yamakaja> [10:35:38] [Client thread/WARN]: Failed to load texture: prcraft:textures/blocks/iron_processor_texture.png

L212[03:36:20] <Yamakaja> java.io.FileNotFoundException: prcraft:textures/blocks/iron_processor_texture.png

L213[03:36:45] <Zaggy1024> try taking off textures/

L214[03:36:56] <Yamakaja> what do you mean?

L215[03:37:07] <Zaggy1024> prcraft:blocks/iron_etc

L216[03:37:17] <Yamakaja> oh

L217[03:37:26] <Yamakaja> i think i also tried that but ill do it again

L218[03:37:32] <Zaggy1024> if that way doesn't work, remove the extension again :P

L219[03:37:37] <Lumien> So your texture for that example is in assets/prcraft/textures/blocks/iron_processor_texture.png right?

L220[03:38:27] <Yamakaja> yep

L221[03:39:16] <Yamakaja> [10:38:19] [Client thread/WARN]: Failed to load texture: prcraft:blocks/iron_processor_texture.png

L222[03:39:17] <Yamakaja> java.io.FileNotFoundException: prcraft:blocks/iron_processor_texture.png

L223[03:39:43] <Zaggy1024> nuts

L224[03:39:46] <Zaggy1024> well...hm

L225[03:40:04] <Yamakaja> same without the extension

L226[03:40:10] <Zaggy1024> you could put a breakpoint on bindTexture and try and find out what it's actually looking for

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L228[03:42:10] <Yamakaja> hm ill tra that

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L234[03:54:44] <Yamakaja> wow, just can't figure it out

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L236[03:57:05] <OrionOnline> Hey guys

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L238[03:58:17] <sham1> Yamakaja, 1.7.x or 1.8?

L239[03:58:23] <Yamakaja> 1.8

L240[03:58:31] <sham1> Ok, show me your model JSON

L241[03:58:44] <Yamakaja> its a techne model

L242[03:58:54] <sham1> wait wat?

L243[03:59:05] <Yamakaja> and the model itself works, it just has the missing texture texture

L244[03:59:17] <sham1> Thats what I am trying to resolve

L245[03:59:23] <Zaggy1024> how are you rendering a json model in a TESR?

L246[03:59:38] <Yamakaja> http://pastebin.com/dE9dC9Bk

L247[03:59:42] <sham1> WHY are you rendering in TESR is a better question

L248[03:59:48] <Zaggy1024> hehe

L249[03:59:50] <Zaggy1024> I do :P

L250[03:59:52] <Yamakaja> to be able to to animate it

L251[04:00:13] <Zaggy1024> well you shouldn't need to bind a texture when the texture is already bound as part of the block texture atlas

L252[04:00:19] <sham1> there's no reference here for the texture

L253[04:00:20] <Zaggy1024> when rendering the block model json

L254[04:00:50] <Zaggy1024> erm, yeah, there's also no mention of a json in there

L255[04:00:53] <Yamakaja> the texture is bound in here: http://pastebin.com/ENKmZK1a

L256[04:00:56] <Zaggy1024> I'm confused now

L257[04:01:16] <sham1> not like thaty

L258[04:01:35] <OrionOnline> Anyone having experience with the A* path finding algorithm?

L259[04:02:04] <sham1> put a comma in place of that plus in the ResourceLocation

L260[04:02:21] <Yamakaja> allready tried it but i can try it again :/

L261[04:03:11] <Yamakaja> same like allways: [11:02:30] [Client thread/WARN]: Failed to load texture: prcraft:textures/blocks/iron_processor_texture.png

L262[04:03:11] <Yamakaja> java.io.FileNotFoundException: prcraft:textures/blocks/iron_processor_texture.png

L263[04:03:21] <sham1> Show the file structure

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L265[04:03:53] <sham1> We'll get this fixed

L266[04:04:00] <Yamakaja> :)

L267[04:05:14] <Yamakaja> http://imgur.com/qI2yR8X

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L269[04:07:42] <sham1> huh, weird

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L273[04:18:16] <Yamakaja> yeah ... somethings wrong, i tested it with the mod files of some random tutorial and the same thing is happening

L274[04:18:28] <Yamakaja> the models work but the textures wont load

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L276[04:21:53] <Zaggy1024> are you refreshing your resources folder before running?

L277[04:22:14] <Zaggy1024> (in your IDE)

L278[04:22:24] <Wuppy> the head of my education told me that some other education at my school may be using my book :D

L279[04:22:29] <Wuppy> must know if true :P

L280[04:22:40] <Zaggy1024> :O

L281[04:22:52] <Zaggy1024> nice!

L282[04:23:56] <Yamakaja> i am refreshing it, yes

L283[04:24:02] <Zaggy1024> hm

L284[04:24:04] <Yamakaja> also the items all work

L285[04:24:19] <Wuppy> I hate my laptop right now :<

L286[04:24:20] <Zaggy1024> well I don't even

L287[04:24:29] <Wuppy> it's warming up my room

L288[04:24:35] <Zaggy1024> is the tut mod for 1.8?

L289[04:24:36] <Wuppy> which is already insanely hot

L290[04:24:43] <Yamakaja> yep

L291[04:24:45] <Zaggy1024> that must be one hot laptop

L292[04:24:55] <Yamakaja> its from june 16th

L293[04:25:10] <auenf> Wuppy, old laptop?

L294[04:25:14] <Wuppy> Zaggy1024, no matter how hot any laptop or pc is, it'll warm up a room

L295[04:25:21] <Wuppy> because running things warms stuff up

L296[04:25:21] <Zaggy1024> heh

L297[04:25:22] <Zaggy1024> yeah

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L299[04:25:32] <Wuppy> auenf, under a year, but the cooling paste is gone I believe

L300[04:25:37] <Zaggy1024> I just feel like a laptop shouldn't do it that much

L301[04:25:46] <Wuppy> yeah, I have to send it back

L302[04:26:06] <Wuppy> but even the smallest difference with the temp now will literally make me melt :C

L303[04:26:09] <auenf> what laptop?

L304[04:26:10] <Wuppy> it's that hot here

L305[04:26:12] <Wuppy> BTO

L306[04:26:18] <auenf> clevo?

L307[04:26:50] <Wuppy> xbook

L308[04:27:31] <Wuppy> with a gtx 765M

L309[04:27:34] <Zaggy1024> how hot is that hot? D:

L310[04:27:38] <auenf> ok, clevo based

L311[04:27:44] <Zaggy1024> oh, I guess that's a higher end laptop then

L312[04:27:51] <Wuppy> Zaggy1024, 30+ degreees before 12

L313[04:27:57] <auenf> gpu or cpu running hot?

L314[04:28:03] <Wuppy> everything

L315[04:28:13] <Wuppy> both ran at around 90 when I was playing L4D2 on medium

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L317[04:32:05] <auenf> i assume the fans still appear to be running correct speed and dont look jammed with dust?

L318[04:32:39] <Wuppy> as far as I can tell, yeah

L319[04:32:57] <auenf> 13 15 or 17" ?

L320[04:33:05] <Wuppy> there is a tiny little bit of dust in one of them, but that's it

L321[04:33:07] <Wuppy> 15

L322[04:35:01] <auenf> http://www.notebooktotaal.nl/15cl38/IMG_4442.JPG

L323[04:35:09] <auenf> my guess is that what it looks like :P

L324[04:35:15] <Wuppy> think so, yeah

L325[04:35:25] <auenf> clevo P150HM that label says

L326[04:35:27] <Wuppy> maybe slightly different, but pretty mcuh that

L327[04:36:02] <Wuppy> W355ST

L328[04:36:31] <Wuppy> and yeah, it's clevo

L329[04:37:23] <Zaggy1024> hey Paleo, have you told fry about the issue with b3d submodel rotaiton?

L330[04:37:35] <auenf> http://www.groupe-anyware.fr/MesMedia/W350ST/3-disques-optique.jpg

L331[04:37:36] <PaleoCrafter> he kinda knows about it

L332[04:37:45] <PaleoCrafter> didn't encounter him yet to tell him directly

L333[04:37:47] <Zaggy1024> aight

L334[04:38:03] <Wuppy> that's probably it

L335[04:38:09] <Wuppy> haven't opened it in a little while though

L336[04:38:14] <auenf> thats still slightly different

L337[04:38:20] <Wuppy> http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Schenker-XMG-A503-Clevo-W355STQ-Notebook.104018.0.html

L338[04:38:22] <auenf> but it looks like single fan?

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L340[04:40:36] <Wuppy> I think so

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L342[04:40:57] <auenf> most clevo's have sufficient power for top line GTX x80m or x90m

L343[04:41:03] <auenf> and sufficient cooling

L344[04:41:17] <Wuppy> the cooling was fine at the start

L345[04:41:22] <Wuppy> but after a bout year....

L346[04:41:22] <auenf> yup

L347[04:41:23] <Wuppy> not so much

L348[04:41:49] <Wuppy> I can probably get it slightly better by cleaning a few things here and there in the laptop

L349[04:41:55] <Wuppy> but I think it has to be send back

L350[04:42:23] <Wuppy> the battery has also been broken-ish

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L353[04:45:20] <Lordmau5> grrr...

L354[04:45:37] <Lordmau5> got a problem with my fluid rendering...

L355[04:46:02] <Lordmau5> when the fluid is above my "render-pass 1" valve texture, it just doesn't render that pass anymore

L356[04:46:07] <Lordmau5> http://ss.lordmau5.com/2015-07-04_11-44-50.png http://ss.lordmau5.com/2015-07-04_11-45-15.png

L357[04:46:25] <Lordmau5> I'm using the Tessellator for the fluid rendering

L358[04:46:31] <tterrag> Lordmau5: MC rendering is derpy

L359[04:46:35] <tterrag> might not be much you can do

L360[04:46:40] <tterrag> but why are you rendering that on pass 1?

L361[04:46:43] <tterrag> (the overlay)

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L363[04:47:03] <Lordmau5> if I render the overlay on pass 0, it flickers (or only occasionally renders the overlay)

L364[04:47:06] <Zaggy1024> stupid z sorting

L365[04:47:08] <Lordmau5> let me capture a quick video

L366[04:47:54] <Lordmau5> at least it did before wtf

L367[04:47:57] <Lordmau5> xD

L368[04:48:06] <sham1> Lordmau5, how do you detect if it is a valid tank

L369[04:48:15] <Lordmau5> define that?

L370[04:48:36] <Lordmau5> @ tterrag http://ss.lordmau5.com/2015-07-04_11-48-30.mp4

L371[04:48:43] <Lordmau5> that's what happens then

L372[04:48:51] <sham1> As in, can you just make any kind of closed structure witht hat valve block or whatever and have it form a tank?

L373[04:48:57] <tterrag> Lordmau5: z-fighting

L374[04:49:07] <tterrag> you could bump out the overlay by a small amount

L375[04:49:12] <Lordmau5> I gotta note that I use ISBRH for the valve

L376[04:49:15] <Lordmau5> and TESR for the fluid inside

L377[04:49:25] <Zaggy1024> it's a weird kind of z-fighting, it seems :P

L378[04:49:40] <Zaggy1024> but yeah, pushing the overlay out should hopefully improve it

L379[04:50:28] <Lordmau5> tmw you find out that the valve doesn't even need renderpass 1

L380[04:50:31] <Lordmau5> but only 0 ... xD

L381[04:50:52] <Lordmau5> "There, I fixed it" http://ss.lordmau5.com/2015-07-04_11-50-39.png

L382[04:50:57] <Zaggy1024> snap, Firefox Nightly doesn't like WebGL

L383[04:51:14] <PaleoCrafter> almost thought the camera was broken there (Minecon stream) xD

L384[04:52:05] * tterrag watches UHC while waiting

L385[04:52:07] <Lordmau5> Isn't that uhm

L386[04:52:12] <Lordmau5> Who does these animations

L387[04:52:12] <Lordmau5> ffs

L388[04:52:30] <Lordmau5> Element Animation?

L389[04:53:05] <auenf> err, which nightly build doesnt like webgl?

L390[04:54:04] <Lordmau5> is there a #mineconstream channel on here?

L391[04:54:10] <Lordmau5> we should do that. I hate the Twitch cancer chat

L392[04:54:30] <PaleoCrafter> there's now :P

L393[04:55:45] <auenf> i'd need blow-by-blow of the stream, i think this is about the time my internet is useless...

L394[04:59:14] <Wuppy> when's minecon?

L395[04:59:38] <Lordmau5> now?

L396[04:59:47] <Wuppy> oh

L397[04:59:51] <auenf> yup, useless internet is useless

L398[04:59:57] <Lordmau5> #mineconstream for a cancer-free chat of MC people :P

L399[05:00:19] <Lordmau5> (since I don't think we want to annoy the people in here that are not interested)

L400[05:00:39] <Wuppy> is there anything interesting on the minecon stream?

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L402[05:00:54] <Lordmau5> not yet at least, if I see it correclty :P

L403[05:01:17] <PaleoCrafter> it just started, so

L404[05:01:31] <Wuppy> will there be anything interesting on the stream

L405[05:01:46] <PaleoCrafter> there are a few modding panels :P

L406[05:01:51] <sham1> oh

L407[05:01:56] <sham1> sounds interesting

L408[05:02:07] <Wuppy> I don't really play Minecraft anymore so yeah

L409[05:02:17] <sham1> Me neither

L410[05:02:20] <sham1> Unless with mods

L411[05:02:25] <Wuppy> not even then

L412[05:02:31] <sham1> vanilla MC is just so boring

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L415[05:05:04] <luacs1998> sham1, lookee horses

L416[05:05:17] <luacs1998> which modders are at minecon?

L417[05:05:40] <luacs1998> dan, pahimar, lex, god knows how many sponge guys

L418[05:05:53] <Wuppy> cool

L419[05:06:13] <sham1> pahi would be interesting to follow

L420[05:06:29] <luacs1998> oh, and ichun too

L421[05:06:36] <PaleoCrafter> Myrathi as well

L422[05:06:40] <luacs1998> pah booked himself on a flight at the last minute or something

L423[05:07:00] <luacs1998> idk, i'm going for the online con run by the anti-empire people

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L426[05:07:33] <luacs1998> oh, and mojang's already using segoe already - MS through and through, they are

L427[05:07:44] <Wuppy> segoe?

L428[05:07:45] <tmtu> everyone should go to the cobalt booth

L429[05:07:58] <auenf> segoe == font

L430[05:08:05] <Wuppy> ah lol

L431[05:08:09] <luacs1998> tmtu, cobalt booth?

L432[05:08:15] <tmtu> cobalt booth

L433[05:08:24] <luacs1998> Wuppy, MS corporate font

L434[05:08:41] <sham1> so it is not comic sans :C

L435[05:09:20] <luacs1998> lol

L436[05:09:58] <auenf> http://www.nitroware.net/i/amfComicSans.jpg

L437[05:12:10] <luacs1998> lol

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L442[05:16:58] <Wuppy> now... to survive the heat for an hour or 3 and then I'll be at a beach/pool party

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L446[05:20:11] <clienthax> At minecon

L447[05:20:19] <clienthax> God help me

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L449[05:20:29] * sham1 helps you

L450[05:20:43] <tmtu> clienthax: go to cobalt booth and say hi to daniel & co.

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L452[05:21:10] <clienthax> Cobalt?

L453[05:21:12] <auenf> someone mentioned UHC

L454[05:21:16] <tmtu> cobalt!

L455[05:21:21] <tmtu> the game

L456[05:21:24] <auenf> but /r/mindcrack makse chrome peg the cpu :/

L457[05:21:35] <PaleoCrafter> nobody knows any Mojang games apart from Minecraft, tmtu :P

L458[05:21:42] <tmtu> for shame

L459[05:21:54] <tmtu> the cobalt devs are the nicest people

L460[05:22:53] <clienthax> Oky I'll harass em

L461[05:23:01] <clienthax> Anyone else at con?

L462[05:23:10] <tmtu> tell them a tomato sent you

L463[05:23:17] <tmtu> they'll know

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L465[05:26:18] <ollieread> clienthax: Hope you've prepared your wallet

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L467[05:26:40] <clienthax> ollieread: each?

L468[05:26:45] <clienthax> Eah*

L469[05:26:59] <ollieread> That part of London is expensive as shit

L470[05:27:09] <ollieread> You're a stones throw from Canary Wharf

L471[05:28:53] <luacs1998> lol

L472[05:31:55] <ollieread> You're also far enough East that you may get shot

L473[05:31:57] <ollieread> Joyous

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L475[05:41:19] <tmtu> not stabbed?

L476[05:50:38] <ollieread> No, that's West London

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L478[05:51:35] <Vigaro> Does the center have an equal chance for both or is it safe?

L479[05:52:06] <ollieread> Nope, central is full of suits

L480[05:52:20] <ollieread> and tourists

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L485[06:03:04] <Lumien> Does somebody know whether / how it is possible to hide a recipe from nei using the api?

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L487[06:06:24] <jA_cOp> Lumien, I know Minetweaker does it, which is free software, so you could probably find it there

L488[06:06:54] <Vigaro> Lumien: Go to github.com/MatheusVigaro and look for the JAM repo, look for a file called something like NEIJAMConfig.java

L489[06:07:08] <Vigaro> It is pretty easy to do

L490[06:07:36] <Lumien> that hides items

L491[06:07:43] <Lumien> i want to hide a recipe

L492[06:07:46] <Vigaro> Oh

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L497[06:29:55] <gigaherz> Meh

L498[06:30:18] <gigaherz> I changed something yesterday that made the client and server stop being fully in sync

L499[06:30:30] <gigaherz> which means they weren't in sync before, just didn't show

L500[06:30:52] <gigaherz> now I have to figure out why the server isn't actually running the TileEntity tick updates as expected :/

L501[06:31:26] <PaleoCrafter> ._. stupid Telekom

L502[06:32:56] <gigaherz> hm

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L504[06:32:59] <gigaherz> while a GUI is showing

L505[06:33:13] <gigaherz> the stacks should sync mostly automatically right?

L506[06:34:11] <Ordinastie> if the right container, yes

L507[06:34:30] <luacs1998> whatthefuck

L508[06:34:47] <luacs1998> just downloaded the modpack for the betterthanminecon server

L509[06:35:12] <luacs1998> IS SOMEONE DOWNLOADING SOMETHING IN THE SERVER THREAD WITHOUT POSTING ANY SORT OF PROGRESS INDICATOR?

L510[06:35:21] <luacs1998> oh, i'd gladly rat out to cpw or lex

L511[06:35:30] <luacs1998> if it wasn't minecon week

L512[06:35:43] <Ordinastie> what?

L513[06:36:11] <luacs1998> lol

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L515[06:39:42] <Boreeas> so maybe someone who has experience with GL11 can help me. I'm trying to render a sphere in the world, like so http://pastebin.com/jJCGwuRw

L516[06:39:50] <Boreeas> but I can't see anything

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L518[06:40:12] <Ivorius> > The Best Java IDE

L519[06:40:14] <Ivorius> wut

L520[06:40:29] <Ivorius> They want to shit-talk Eclipse for half an hour? :P

L521[06:40:44] <ollieread> Is RF push or pull?

L522[06:40:45] <Ordinastie> what are you talking about ?

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L524[06:40:58] <Ivorius> Ordi, do you have a ping on Eclipse? :P

L525[06:41:27] <Ordinastie> no, I have HexChat on the second monitor while I watch a video

L526[06:41:50] <Ivorius> Anyway, it's from the Better Than Minecon timetable

L527[06:41:58] <luacs1998> lol

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L529[06:42:37] MineBot sets mode: +o on LexMobile

L530[06:42:41] <luacs1998> hi lex

L531[06:42:49] <LexMobile> Morning folks

L532[06:42:49] <luacs1998> (but you probably have me on ignore)

L533[06:42:51] <gigaherz> ollieread: both

L534[06:42:52] <luacs1998> how's minecon?

L535[06:43:35] <LexMobile> Disorganized shoddy but meh seems the kids are having fun

L536[06:43:51] <gigaherz> IEnergyProvider/Receiver are passive, both machines and cables can choose to act on their neighbours

L537[06:44:30] <gigaherz> although it's generally left to the cables to do so, thigns like Extra Utilities' generators actively push energy out

L538[06:45:19] <ollieread> Ahh right, I can't be bothered to make cables, so I just making induction transmitters and receivers

L539[06:45:30] <tmtu> LexMobile: visit the cobalt booth

L540[06:45:57] <LexMobile> Why?

L541[06:46:02] <tmtu> fun

L542[06:46:17] <luacs1998> tmtu, yyou've said that four times without saying what exactly is at the cobalt booth

L543[06:46:23] <LexMobile> Cobalt != fun

L544[06:46:26] <tmtu> it consists of fun and fun

L545[06:46:29] <PaleoCrafter> Lex, wanna see that banhammer :P

L546[06:46:47] <LexMobile> Iys just a inflateable hammer :p

L547[06:47:05] <tmtu> luacs1998: i know everyone who works there, so i'm trying to send more people their way!

L548[06:47:09] <ollieread> I'm about 10 minutes from the excel centre and have a real hammer if you require it

L549[06:47:12] * tmtu shill and proud

L550[06:47:21] <LexMobile> tmtu: dont

L551[06:47:22] <luacs1998> ollieread, why didn't you go :P

L552[06:47:37] <ollieread> I forgot that it was a thing, and by the time I realised, they had sold out

L553[06:47:50] <gigaherz> "Disorganized shoddy but meh seems the kids are having fun" --- so like the rest of minecraft ;P

L554[06:48:06] <LexMobile> Yup

L555[06:48:37] <luacs1998> uggh fuck my life

L556[06:48:46] <luacs1998> minecraft, use the god damn nvidia card

L557[06:49:00] <gigaherz> set Java to always use NVidia

L558[06:49:02] <gigaherz> ;P

L559[06:49:27] <luacs1998> done

L560[06:49:33] <luacs1998> set multimc to use nvidia too

L561[06:49:51] <gigaherz> hmf no idea then

L562[06:50:08] <gigaherz> setting javaw.exe to use nvidia was enough for me

L563[06:50:17] <gigaherz> although that was in the old launcher

L564[06:50:22] <luacs1998> ah right

L565[06:50:23] <sham1> how do you set that

L566[06:50:26] <luacs1998> i set java.exe

L567[06:50:30] <luacs1998> not javaw.exe -.-

L568[06:50:33] <gigaherz> sham1: profile in the nvidia control panel

L569[06:50:37] <sham1> Ah

L570[06:52:35] <sham1> now, if only there was a setting that would force software rendered games with directx something to use the GPU, i'd be so happy

L571[06:53:05] <luacs1998> hope that changes with dx12 then

L572[06:53:05] <sham1> source engine would not be so much pain

L573[06:53:43] <gigaherz> sham1: uh if a game is software-rendered, then how would you make it use the gpu?

L574[06:53:44] <gigaherz> XD

L575[06:53:53] <sham1> true

L576[06:54:03] <gigaherz> it's not like if dx itself has an actual software renderer beyond the "WARP" thing that was for development purposes

L577[06:54:04] <luacs1998> ok

L578[06:54:19] <gigaherz> or the reference rasterizer that's NOT usable for anything other than frame debugging

L579[06:54:19] <luacs1998> so why the hell did the game hang on the intel chip but work fine on the nvidia one

L580[06:54:34] <gigaherz> luacs1998: probably OpenGL driver issues

L581[06:54:49] <gigaherz> no idea beyond that

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L584[06:55:17] <gigaherz> but since the one thing that changes that matters to minecraft is the graphic adapter that's being used

L585[06:55:22] * luacs1998 shrugs

L586[06:55:24] <gigaherz> and that means the ogl driver, that's my guess

L587[06:55:39] <luacs1998> maybe because i'm on w10 and only the nvidia card is explicitly compatible

L588[06:56:03] <gigaherz> that shouldn't matter

L589[06:56:14] <gigaherz> OpenGL ICD is separate from the WDDM interfaces

L590[06:56:31] <gigaherz> the lack of WDDM 2.0 shouldn't directly affect OpenGL behaviour or features :/

L591[06:56:35] <gigaherz> but it could still be a bug.

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L600[07:22:20] <Wuppy> aw shit

L601[07:22:25] <Wuppy> it was going to rain here

L602[07:22:31] <Wuppy> but that seems to have evaporated

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L709[09:02:06] <killjoy> Modding panel is live. http://www.twitch.tv/Mojang

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L711[09:02:43] <PaleoCrafter> I hope the connection stays stablke

L712[09:04:05] <killjoy> There it starts to go

L713[09:04:14] <PaleoCrafter> just when Dire started to talk, lol

L714[09:04:14] <killjoy> And there it went

L715[09:04:17] <ThePsionic> All these people are so much older than I perceived them to be

L716[09:04:37] <killjoy> I knew direwolf was an old man at last minecon

L717[09:04:50] <PaleoCrafter> I hope they get a proper recording up on youtube ...

L718[09:04:52] <killjoy> Soaryn's the young one

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L720[09:05:18] <ThePsionic> gg wp

L721[09:05:19] <killjoy> Is he there this year?

L722[09:06:19] <PaleoCrafter> don't think so

L723[09:06:39] <ThePsionic> I like jadedcat's hat

L724[09:06:53] <PaleoCrafter> header over to #mineconstream guys :P

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L726[09:07:13] <Ordinastie> who are the first 3 on the left ?

L727[09:07:42] <PaleoCrafter> from which perspective? :P

L728[09:08:12] <PaleoCrafter> but it's slowpoke, creeperhost guy, direwolf, myrathi, jadedcat and Kaelten

L729[09:08:12] <Ordinastie> I guess direworlf has his name on his shirt, so that answers it

L730[09:09:34] <Ordinastie> shitty audio too :x

L731[09:09:42] <luacs1998> who's the one with the funny hat

L732[09:09:48] <jA_cOp> Would PlayerUseItemEvent.Start be the best event to hook if I wanted to put restrictions on breeding (restrictions on putting animals into love mode)?

L733[09:09:52] <ThePsionic> #mineconstream pls

L734[09:10:01] <PaleoCrafter> luacs1998, jaded :P

L735[09:12:49] <luacs1998> i guessed so

L736[09:13:11] <covers1624> Ripcon 2015

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L751[09:58:29] <Lumien> Is it guaranteed that in Block.getExtendedState the tile entity of the block is set? It appears to be null for me sometimes

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L754[10:15:24] <ThePsionic> time to food

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L766[11:04:53] <ThePsionic> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/issues/1989 and that is how you debunk an issue that is not an issue

L767[11:06:52] <gigaherz> lol

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L772[11:22:36] <ThePsionic> I haven't touched my IDE for almost 2 weeks isn't it great

L773[11:23:51] <gigaherz> FINALLY

L774[11:23:56] <gigaherz> my GUI works again

L775[11:23:57] <gigaherz> well

L776[11:24:02] <gigaherz> the GUI worked

L777[11:24:14] <gigaherz> I mean the server updates the client properly XD

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L787[11:49:50] <Lumien> If i have a tesr, how do i prevent "model definition not found" errors?

L788[11:49:56] <Lumien> Should i just create a dummy model file?

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L790[11:50:37] * luacs1998 shakes AbrarSyed for FG 2.0

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L792[11:51:16] <gigaherz> how do I know if the item was shift-rightclicked?

L793[11:51:49] <gigaherz> luacs1998: don't shake things too hard, they may break and stop working

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L797[11:56:05] <gigaherz> meh I just used Keyboard.isKeyDown until I learn of any better way (if one exists)

L798[11:56:42] <Mitchellbrine> uh

L799[11:56:54] <Mitchellbrine> gigaherz: checking player.isSneaking()

L800[11:57:06] <gigaherz> oh!

L801[11:57:12] <Kaiyouka> lol

L802[11:57:24] <gigaherz> I guess that works too ;P

L803[11:58:10] <gigaherz> ah yep it works even if flying

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L805[11:58:51] <gigaherz> okay now if the player shift-rightclicks the wand, the saved spell is cleared

L806[11:59:12] <gigaherz> it has two effects:

L807[11:59:35] <gigaherz> 1. lets you clear the spell and use the wand in "recharge" mode (it takes essences from the closest item in the hotbar)

L808[11:59:54] <gigaherz> 2. prevents you from spamming spells while sneaking

L809[12:00:01] <Kaiyouka> feels thaumcrafty

L810[12:00:42] <gigaherz> only vaguely ;P

L811[12:00:54] <gigaherz> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOEkYIQaBk_RDcX22iFm7_GMLhmxX_tgB

L812[12:01:15] <gigaherz> my magic system is "raw"

L813[12:01:29] <gigaherz> no fancy rituals or any such thing ;P

L814[12:01:43] <Kaiyouka> lol

L815[12:02:11] <gigaherz> I'm still considering an "unsafe" mode

L816[12:02:25] <gigaherz> where if you don't have enough existing essences it will take as many life points as missing essences

L817[12:04:10] <Kaiyouka> that sounds like a recipe for accidental disaster

L818[12:04:20] <gigaherz> it is.

L819[12:04:36] <gigaherz> it means you have to be careful not to cast something you aren't prepared to cast

L820[12:04:36] <gigaherz> ;P

L821[12:05:12] <Kaiyouka> fun

L822[12:05:35] <Kaiyouka> guess I'll do some coding

L823[12:05:50] <Kaiyouka> still gotta fix an infinite loop problem

L824[12:05:54] <gigaherz> heh

L825[12:06:55] <Kaiyouka> It doesn't make a lick of sense to me

L826[12:07:43] <gigaherz> gotta do some shopping

L827[12:07:44] <gigaherz> bb in a bit

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L831[12:18:17] <Kaiyouka> The funny thing is, the way my code handles this problem results in the originally intended effect so it's almost like a false positive :l

L832[12:23:59] <Kaiyouka> Realistically, I suppose I can leave it be but the perfectionist in me wants to squash the bug

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L834[12:27:10] <Kaiyouka> Note to self: I'm not allowed to code complicated things anymore

L835[12:30:17] <Kaiyouka> Sweet, I fixed my error and created an NPE in the process \o/

L836[12:30:38] <ThePsionic> #coding

L837[12:30:51] <gigaherz> well if the code exits with an exception, it can't possibly loop infinitely ;P

L838[12:31:00] <ThePsionic> lol

L839[12:31:08] <Kaiyouka> gigaherz: it's an unrelated NPE

L840[12:31:19] <ThePsionic> gigaherz: Unless it's a StackOverflowException

L841[12:31:39] <ThePsionic> No wait that still is an exiting exception

L842[12:31:42] * ThePsionic scurries away

L843[12:31:53] <Kaiyouka> lol

L844[12:32:06] <Kaiyouka> And technically, my code doesn't infinite loop. It detects the infinite loop ahead of time and bails

L845[12:32:25] <gigaherz> wtf you programmed loop analysis into your code? XD

L846[12:32:33] <gigaherz> anyhow, leaving now

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L848[12:32:38] <Kaiyouka> lol

L849[12:32:52] <Kaiyouka> it's easy to detect infinite loops if it's a very very simple loop

L850[12:33:34] <Kaiyouka> (my own engine code btw) I'm working on programming some player party stuff and player entities can follow and be followed by exactly one other player each.

L851[12:33:36] <Commoble> if (loopcount > 500) letsStopThisNonsense()

L852[12:33:59] <ThePsionic> i = 0; while (true) i++; if (i > 500) break;

L853[12:34:16] <Kaiyouka> And the current logic basically goes "if you're trying to follow A but A is already followed, go down the chain of following players until you find the tail"

L854[12:34:27] <Kaiyouka> but it's theoretically possible for there to BE no tail so

L855[12:34:37] <ThePsionic> two-headed monstrosity

L856[12:34:50] <Commoble> You could try some sort of hierarchy thing

L857[12:35:08] <Commoble> where a player following nobody is level 0, a player following a player following nobody is level 1, etc

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L859[12:35:32] <Kaiyouka> not very useful

L860[12:35:35] <Commoble> and use that to try and prevent following loops

L861[12:36:10] <Kaiyouka> preventing a following loop is as simple as keeping a reference to the player you're trying to follow and, if at any point during the chain, you end up BACK at that reference, you just stop

L862[12:36:25] <Unh0ly_Tigg> There was some website that allowed you to pick software programs you wanted to install (like after installing a new OS), and it would package all the installers into 1 download. Does anyone here remember the name of it?

L863[12:36:25] <Kaiyouka> as for actually allowing a circular follow

L864[12:36:27] <Commoble> fair point

L865[12:36:37] <Kaiyouka> that's basically there as a generic mechanic

L866[12:36:40] <ThePsionic> Allow a circular follow and make the players dance

L867[12:36:45] <Kaiyouka> ^

L868[12:37:36] <Kaiyouka> Unh0ly_Tigg: https://ninite.com/ ?

L869[12:38:10] <Kaiyouka> most of my bugs are basically communication errors between entities

L870[12:38:16] <ThePsionic> Kaiyouka: I have an unlisted web browser what do

L871[12:38:18] <Unh0ly_Tigg> Kaiyouka, YES thank you, was trying to remember the url

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L873[12:38:38] <Kaiyouka> ThePsionic: lolwut

L874[12:38:41] <Unh0ly_Tigg> ThePsionic, you can suggest programs at the bottom

L875[12:38:50] <ThePsionic> Kaiyouka: what

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L877[12:39:04] <Commoble> okay so what if you right-click on a player to start following, and you go down the loop, and you eventually come back to a player you've iterated over before,

L878[12:39:08] <Kaiyouka> stop being a web browsing hipster, ThePsionic :p

L879[12:39:09] <Commoble> but it wasn't the player you started from

L880[12:39:26] <ThePsionic> Kaiyouka: It's a 64-bit version of Firefox

L881[12:39:29] <Kaiyouka> Commoble: impossible

L882[12:39:43] <Commoble> Oh right, because each player can only have one follower and one followee

L883[12:39:47] <Commoble> hmm

L884[12:40:18] <Commoble> Are you certain that this design is being met?

L885[12:40:36] <Kaiyouka> yes

L886[12:40:44] <Commoble> Like what if a player is following another player who thinks he's being followed by *somebody else*

L887[12:40:48] <Commoble> This is being prevented?

L888[12:41:09] <Kaiyouka> They have an update method that checks if these references are synchronized

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L890[12:42:00] <Kaiyouka> E.g., if A thinks B is following it, it checks if B is following it and if not, clears its following reference

L891[12:44:16] <shadekiller666> "hey are you following me?" "hey are you following me?" "hey are you following me?"

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L893[12:45:20] <Kaiyouka> I'm trying to simplify my code as much as possible but I keep bugging up the communication

L894[12:45:29] <Kaiyouka> and so I get dumb weird errors

L895[12:46:58] <shadekiller666> and for all the 'muricans, happy 4th of July

L896[12:47:15] <Kaiyouka> I think I've finally ironed out all the kinks

L897[12:47:49] <Kaiyouka> but the code is still a convoluted mess

L898[12:47:54] <Kaiyouka> so it looks like back down the rabbit hole I go \o/

L899[12:49:04] <ThePsionic> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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L902[12:50:59] <clienthax> tmtu: said hi to them earlier

L903[12:51:18] <tmtu> <3

L904[12:51:31] <shadekiller666> so i'm working on a rendering tool to assist in setting up camera transform values, and i'm trying to render text in the world adjacent to some colored lines (similar to the crosshairs in the f3 screen), and all i'm getting for the text is rectangles

L905[12:51:51] <ThePsionic> get rektangled

L906[12:52:45] <Kaiyouka> lol

L907[12:56:45] <clienthax> For minecon there really isn't much to do here lol

L908[12:57:21] <shadekiller666> ahh

L909[12:57:34] <Kaiyouka> clienthax: go find David Hewlett and get his autograph

L910[12:57:44] <shadekiller666> i was getting rectangles cuz i had GlStateManager disabling 2D textures

L911[12:57:58] <ThePsionic> clienthax: were you at the AH/RT Q&A

L912[12:58:31] <clienthax> ThePsionic: huh

L913[12:58:48] <ThePsionic> The Achievement Hunter Q&A I'm watching literally right now

L914[12:59:00] <clienthax> That wasn't on the schedule..?

L915[12:59:11] <ThePsionic> It is just about to end lol

L916[12:59:18] <clienthax> Fucking hell..

L917[12:59:33] <clienthax> Grum got stuck today

L918[12:59:37] <ThePsionic> lol

L919[12:59:42] <clienthax> Debs just kept talking and talking to him lol

L920[12:59:48] <clienthax> Devs*

L921[13:00:03] <clienthax> Met minecreatrMinecon however

L922[13:00:13] <ThePsionic> clienthax: Where you are the Modding panel though

L923[13:00:26] <clienthax> ThePsionic: that's 2mz right

L924[13:00:41] <ThePsionic> Nonono that was with direwolf20 and jadedcat and stuff

L925[13:00:50] <clienthax> O lol, that was pretty bad

L926[13:00:54] <ThePsionic> It was

L927[13:01:48] <ThePsionic> It ended

L928[13:01:53] <ThePsionic> RIP clienthax

L929[13:02:19] <clienthax> jadedcat: I saw you

L930[13:02:21] <ThePsionic> but yeah it wasn't very busy in there so I think you should have known beforehand if it's not on the schedule lol

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L932[13:02:36] <clienthax> Tbh its not even very busy here

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L934[13:02:50] <clienthax> Quite odd

L935[13:03:48] <ThePsionic> inb4 the entire minecon was not scheduled

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L939[13:09:52] <Kaiyouka> lol

L940[13:10:16] <Kaiyouka> IT'S FUCKING STORMING AGAIN

L941[13:10:39] <clienthax> Kaiyouka: eah where

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L944[13:11:26] <ThePsionic> I want to be there

L945[13:12:01] <gigaherz> does IDEA hava means to clone a class (wit ha new name)

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L947[13:12:07] <gigaherz> or generate a subclass from a baseclass automatically?

L948[13:12:11] <Kaiyouka> clienthax: ol' Red, USA

L949[13:12:28] <Kaiyouka> (Colorado)

L950[13:13:59] <Ordinastie> gigaherz, pretty sure Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V will work

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L952[13:14:19] <gigaherz> Ordinastie: hm?

L953[13:14:31] <Ordinastie> on a class file

L954[13:14:32] <gigaherz> I never considered ctrl-v in the project panel... I'll have to try XD

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L957[13:17:01] <Kaiyouka> lol

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L959[13:31:02] <gigaherz> hmm how do you instantiate a class based on a generic parameter type?

L960[13:31:18] <Ordinastie> wut?

L961[13:31:32] <gigaherz> Class<T externs Base>

L962[13:31:37] <gigaherz> I want "new T(args)"

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L964[13:32:00] <Ordinastie> you can't

L965[13:32:03] <gigaherz> I know it can't be done that way, because the compiler can't psosibly resolve it

L966[13:32:07] <gigaherz> I was thinking reflection or such

L967[13:32:17] <Ordinastie> is it your class ?

L968[13:32:20] <gigaherz> yes

L969[13:32:30] <Ordinastie> pass the class in the constructor then

L970[13:32:43] <gigaherz> hmf

L971[13:32:47] <gigaherz> I guess I can do that

L972[13:32:51] <gigaherz> but it's less elegant XD

L973[13:33:11] <Ordinastie> trying to get it via reflection will be a loss less elegant

L974[13:33:14] <gigaherz> in C#you can just do Instantiator.CreateInstance(typeof(T), constructor args)

L975[13:33:24] <gigaherz> so I was hoping for a similarly-elegant solution ;P

L976[13:33:29] <Zaggy2048> you can't do that in Java

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L978[13:34:00] <Zaggy1024> type erasure or something

L979[13:34:31] <gigaherz> well the compiler could easily replace "typeof(T)" with "[T].class"

L980[13:34:32] <gigaherz> ;P

L981[13:34:46] <gigaherz> where [T] is the actual class

L982[13:34:49] <gigaherz> anyhow

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L984[13:35:37] <gigaherz> hmf, newInstance requires a parameterless constructor?

L985[13:36:11] <Kaiyouka> uh

L986[13:36:21] <killjoy> getConstructor

L987[13:36:57] <Kaiyouka> ^

L988[13:37:04] <gigaherz> ah

L989[13:37:24] <Zaggy1024> giga, Java has no idea what T.class is

L990[13:37:40] <killjoy> T is a type, not a class

L991[13:37:51] <killjoy> The wonders of generics

L992[13:37:52] <gigaherz> Zaggy1024: I know that much

L993[13:38:05] <killjoy> try t.getClass()

L994[13:38:14] <killjoy> t being the variable of T

L995[13:38:16] <gigaherz> I have already given up on that

L996[13:38:29] <gigaherz> killjoy: cna't possibly od that without first having an instance of it XD

L997[13:38:31] <gigaherz> anyhow

L998[13:38:42] <gigaherz> I'm trying to write the getConstructor code kthx ;P

L999[13:38:55] <killjoy> add a Class<? extends T> to the constructor

L1000[13:39:05] <gigaherz> I did.

L1001[13:39:08] <gigaherz> that's all done.

L1002[13:39:17] <killjoy> ^3^

L1003[13:40:02] <gigaherz> Oh

L1004[13:40:08] <gigaherz> right java requires explicit throws

L1005[13:40:35] <Zaggy1024> hey Paleo, for some reason it's looking for a .b3d.json when I try to get it to load a .b3d... any idea what's going on?

L1006[13:40:49] <PaleoCrafter> did you add your resource domain to the B3DLoader?

L1007[13:40:49] <Zaggy1024> I haven't messed with non-json models yet

L1008[13:40:55] <Zaggy1024> erm, no

L1009[13:41:09] <PaleoCrafter> B3DLoader.instance.addDomain or something

L1010[13:41:19] <gigaherz> okay

L1011[13:41:26] <gigaherz> WAY too many exceptions thrown by getConstructor

L1012[13:41:31] <gigaherz> this is anti-elegant

L1013[13:41:38] <gigaherz> I'll just create 15 classes and be done with it

L1014[13:41:39] <gigaherz> XD

L1015[13:41:43] <Zaggy1024> whut

L1016[13:42:04] <Ordinastie> catch ReflectiveOperationException ?

L1017[13:42:06] <Zaggy1024> just catch them all with a reflection exception or whatever is the common exception

L1018[13:42:28] <gigaherz> oh ReflectiveOperationException worked, thanks

L1019[13:43:40] <Kaiyouka> Be semantically dull and catch Exception :p

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L1021[13:45:42] <Zaggy1024> I dislike doing that :P

L1022[13:46:07] <gigaherz> Kaiyouka: no, i'd have rather created a dozen more classes than rely on pokemon-exception-catching

L1023[13:46:27] <Kaiyouka> aww :c

L1024[13:46:47] <Zaggy1024> http://i.imgur.com/SUrwbOT.png

L1025[13:46:49] <Zaggy1024> yup

L1026[13:46:55] <Kaiyouka> fancy

L1027[13:46:56] <Kaiyouka> what is it

L1028[13:46:58] <Zaggy1024> k, now to figure out why it's not rotating

L1029[13:47:09] <gigaherz> are those... cylinders?

L1030[13:47:14] <Zaggy1024> it's just Paleo's model tacked onto a forge blockstates wall

L1031[13:47:18] <Zaggy1024> as a test

L1032[13:47:31] <Kaiyouka> neat

L1033[13:47:38] <PaleoCrafter> gigaherz, octagonal prisms, duh :P

L1034[13:48:01] <gigaherz> it has diagonal faces, heresy!

L1035[13:48:41] <Kaiyouka> ...

L1036[13:48:43] <Zaggy1024> yeah

L1037[13:48:46] <Kaiyouka> rails?

L1038[13:48:52] <Zaggy1024> I'm not a supporter of it but it's Paleo's mod, not mine :P

L1039[13:49:14] <Zaggy1024> heh, good point

L1040[13:49:17] <PaleoCrafter> I could make it cuboids, but meh

L1041[13:49:18] <Ordinastie> I don't think he does mods :p

L1042[13:49:30] <PaleoCrafter> wouldn't have found this bug otherwise :P

L1043[13:49:41] <PaleoCrafter> Ordinastie, I actually do now, if this thing gets fixed, lol

L1044[13:49:43] <Zaggy1024> I don't have any rebuttal to that except that rails just look different from a prism to me

L1045[13:49:47] <gigaherz> rails?

L1046[13:49:56] <Kaiyouka> gigaherz: rails do diagonal faces sometimes :p

L1047[13:50:03] <Kaiyouka> so saying diagonal faces are heresy is just silly :p

L1048[13:50:08] <gigaherz> they look pixelated to me ;P

L1049[13:50:24] <Kaiyouka> (well, if you consider the whole thing to be a face, lol)

L1050[13:50:48] <gigaherz> nah I play modpacks

L1051[13:50:54] <gigaherz> many of them DO have diagonal faces

L1052[13:51:03] <gigaherz> and I'm no stranger to carpenter's blocks

L1053[13:51:10] <gigaherz> I have done sloped roofs

L1054[13:51:14] <gigaherz> but the joke is the joke ;P

L1055[13:51:17] <Kaiyouka> lol

L1056[13:51:24] <Kaiyouka> I prefer my minecraft to be cuboid

L1057[13:51:59] <Kaiyouka> anyway, time to figure out what to work on next

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L1059[13:52:39] <gigaherz> hmm I'll have to add new rules to my water spells

L1060[13:52:47] <gigaherz> right now you can go do the nether and make a lake XD

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L1063[13:54:57] <Kaiyouka> I've never had qualms with sufficiently powerful water magic violating the nether's heat :p

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L1065[13:55:21] <gigaherz> oh sure

L1066[13:55:51] <gigaherz> I was just thinking to make the lesser spell levels do nothing, and the greater levels have reduced effect

L1067[13:56:25] <gigaherz> right now a level-5 waterball has radius 6 (so 11x11x11 ball), it would have radius 2 or so instead

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L1069[13:57:04] <Kaiyouka> not a bad idea

L1070[13:57:46] <gigaherz> hmm is there any means to know if a dimension "disallows" water?

L1071[13:57:51] <gigaherz> or do I hardcode id=-1? ;P

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L1073[13:57:59] <Kaiyouka> it's in the world info, I'm pretty sure

L1074[13:58:03] <Zaggy1024> hey Paleo, have you tried rotating a b3d with vanilla blockstates?

L1075[13:58:11] <PaleoCrafter> I haven't

L1076[13:58:28] <Zaggy1024> it's possible that the B3D IModel just ignores its model state

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L1078[13:59:44] <HassanS6000> Hey just on a scale from 1 - 10

L1079[13:59:48] <HassanS6000> How hard would it be

L1080[13:59:59] <HassanS6000> 2 make a rideable flying entity

L1081[14:00:03] <HassanS6000> xD

L1082[14:00:11] <Kaiyouka> trivial probably

L1083[14:00:17] <HassanS6000> Trivial? xD

L1084[14:00:18] <Zaggy1024> yeah, it shouldn't be difficult

L1085[14:00:25] <unascribed> yeah, riding is built-in to entities, you just need to give it a flying ai

L1086[14:00:28] <Kaiyouka> ^

L1087[14:00:29] <Zaggy1024> if you have enough experience

L1088[14:00:31] <sham1> On a scale from 1 to 10 I'd say 3.14

L1089[14:00:43] <HassanS6000> Well thanks for the input :P I'll try it

L1090[14:00:44] <Zaggy1024> 3.14159265358979

L1091[14:00:44] <unascribed> look at ghasts and bats

L1092[14:00:58] <HassanS6000> Zaggy1024, is that all the digits of PI u know?

L1093[14:01:03] <HassanS6000> Thanx for da advice unascribed

L1094[14:01:06] <Zaggy1024> naw, there's 32 after that

L1095[14:01:39] <Zaggy1024> one thing I'm thinking might be a little tricky is making the fly up and down controls work

L1096[14:01:46] <Zaggy1024> I'm not sure how you hook those up

L1097[14:01:55] <Zaggy1024> maybe a key handler and packet

L1098[14:02:23] <gigaherz> hmm the world doesn't have anything with "water" in the name ;P

L1099[14:02:27] <gigaherz> I'll check the bucket

L1100[14:03:20] <gigaherz> AHA!

L1101[14:03:20] <gigaherz> worldIn.provider.doesWaterVaporize()

L1102[14:09:06] <clienthax> Dancing steves

L1103[14:09:11] <clienthax> Dancing Steve's everywhere

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L1106[14:10:52] <HewwoThere> I get crashes from this: Crash Report: http://masterwhisker.com/crash.log -- FML Log: http://masterwhisker.com/fml.log

L1107[14:11:35] <Zaggy1024> I wish fry was around

L1108[14:12:38] <HewwoThere> Is he good at crashes?

L1109[14:12:48] <Zaggy1024> no I'm talking about for what I'm working

L1110[14:12:54] <HewwoThere> =P

L1111[14:12:59] <Zaggy1024> ConcurrentModificationException...oh boy

L1112[14:13:08] <Zaggy1024> those exceptions are fun

L1113[14:13:09] <gigaherz> HewwoThere: can you paste the contents of the logs in a gist or similar so I can read them wihtout downloading first?

L1114[14:13:12] <gigaherz> Zaggy1024: where?

L1115[14:13:18] <Zaggy1024> the crash

L1116[14:13:21] <HewwoThere> gigaherz, you don't download them?

L1117[14:13:24] <HewwoThere> Or do you?

L1118[14:13:36] <gigaherz> HewwoThere: they are .log files, I don't have .log files set to open in the browser as text

L1119[14:13:37] <gigaherz> ;P

L1120[14:13:43] <HewwoThere> Oh

L1121[14:13:46] <HewwoThere> Gimme a sec

L1122[14:13:47] <gigaherz> or at least, the server doesn't advertise them as text ;P

L1123[14:13:50] <Ordinastie> when I saw it wanted me to download the logs, I said fuck it, and close the browser :)

L1124[14:14:04] <Zaggy1024> I'm pretty sure the server is telling my browser to download it instead of viewing it

L1125[14:14:09] <HewwoThere> Sorry. =P

L1126[14:14:10] <gigaherz> if you set the server to have .log files set as text/plain MIME type...

L1127[14:14:11] <HewwoThere> 1 sec

L1128[14:14:31] <Zaggy1024> don't browsers just check if it's plain text automatically?

L1129[14:14:41] <gigaherz> nah, they work based on the mime

L1130[14:14:47] <gigaherz> if it says text/* they open

L1131[14:14:51] <gigaherz> if it's application/* they do not

L1132[14:15:33] <HewwoThere> Crash Log: http://masterwhisker.com/crash.txt -- FML Log: http://masterwhisker.com/fml.txt

L1133[14:16:07] <Ordinastie> FML 404

L1134[14:16:31] <HewwoThere> Derp

L1135[14:16:33] <HewwoThere> Try FML now

L1136[14:16:42] <Ordinastie> (and you should update MalisisCore and Doors :p)

L1137[14:16:52] <HewwoThere> I probs should

L1138[14:16:56] <HewwoThere> But there's hundreds of mods

L1139[14:17:22] <olee> hi, I have a question about forge's handling of item IDs. Where does it handle the ID substitutions?

L1140[14:18:01] <olee> i.e. when a player connects to a server which has different IDs than the client

L1141[14:18:28] <Ordinastie> I'm not telling you to update the others :p

L1142[14:19:05] <olee> does it happend on the network layer when packets arrive on the client or something like that? Or is it that the Item.getItemById(<id>) function on the client itself uses the same mappings as on the server?

L1143[14:19:34] <HewwoThere> Ordinastie, are they the issue?

L1144[14:19:47] <Ordinastie> nope :)

L1145[14:19:48] <Zaggy1024> olee, I believe it sends a big message when the client joins

L1146[14:20:19] <olee> well but does this one overwrite the ID map of the client?

L1147[14:20:32] <olee> or is it just used on arriving packets from the server?

L1148[14:20:49] <Ordinastie> HewwoThere, I would update forge, if that doesn't fix it, I don't know

L1149[14:20:50] <olee> I am asking because I want to store items in NBT

L1150[14:20:56] <HewwoThere> Oh

L1151[14:20:57] <HewwoThere> Okay

L1152[14:21:03] <olee> and this information needs to be used on the client, too

L1153[14:21:29] <olee> but if Item.getItemById() on the client does not return the same Item as the server, it will fail completely

L1154[14:21:30] <Ordinastie> store the ItemStack in NBT

L1155[14:22:06] <Ordinastie> and yes the IDs will be the same

L1156[14:23:04] <olee> just found this in ItemStack class: private cpw.mods.fml.common.registry.RegistryDelegate<Item> delegate

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L1158[14:23:34] <olee> if I see that correctly, Item.getItemById WILL return different IDs, but ItemStack class takes care of mapping them?

L1159[14:24:07] <Ordinastie> olee, you shouldn't need to care about that, just store your ItemStack in NBT and it will work

L1160[14:24:17] <Ordinastie> otherwise no inventory would ever work

L1161[14:24:42] <olee> well that's what I hope...

L1162[14:25:08] <gigaherz> earth,earth,fire,fire => lavaball! (flowing, non-source blocks)

L1163[14:26:25] <Ordinastie> what about earth, fire, earth, fire ?

L1164[14:26:41] <gigaherz> not mapped to any spell right now

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L1166[14:31:04] <HassanS6000> How hard would it be 2 make a 2 person ridable entity

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L1168[14:35:40] <Zaggy1024> Paleo, it kind of seems as though fry wants you to put a weight map on your mesh

L1169[14:35:49] <Zaggy1024> for it to transform at all

L1170[14:35:50] <PaleoCrafter> wut

L1171[14:35:55] <clienthax> Lex ran off somewhere

L1172[14:36:00] <clienthax> :c

L1173[14:36:02] <Zaggy1024> which is...strange...but that's what the code seems to want

L1174[14:36:08] <PaleoCrafter> like, in blender?

L1175[14:36:13] <Zaggy1024> see B3DModel#617

L1176[14:36:41] <Zaggy1024> Which is called (indirectly) from line 520

L1177[14:37:21] <Zaggy1024> I'm not sure if this is intended yet

L1178[14:37:42] <PaleoCrafter> the weight map is immutable, so he can't populate it anywhere Oo

L1179[14:38:26] <PaleoCrafter> oh, nvm

L1180[14:38:31] <PaleoCrafter> it isn't final xD

L1181[14:38:53] <PaleoCrafter> so I actually have to add bones? Oo

L1182[14:39:43] <Zaggy1024> mm...no I don't think so

L1183[14:39:52] <Zaggy1024> erm nvm, yeah

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L1185[14:45:14] <gigaherz> [21:30] (HassanS6000): How hard would it be 2 make a 2 person ridable entity

L1186[14:45:37] <gigaherz> judging by how badly things like certian mods' elevators, ships and planes work

L1187[14:45:47] <gigaherz> it's not easy XD

L1188[14:46:27] <unascribed> he didn't say controllable :P

L1189[14:48:50] <PaleoCrafter> hm, let's figure out how to actually do this bone shit

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L1191[14:49:21] <ghz|afk> later

L1192[14:58:58] <PaleoCrafter> so, Zaggy1024, either I'm too stupid or fry's exporter doesn't cover bones ._.

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L1194[14:59:36] <Zaggy1024> it doesn't? well then.

L1195[14:59:47] <Zaggy1024> FRYYYYYY

L1196[15:00:06] <techbrew> Looking at 1.8, anyone know offhand if there's a cache for BlockPos instances, rather than just thrash the heap if you need tons of them?

L1197[15:00:18] <PaleoCrafter> techbrew, no

L1198[15:00:22] <PaleoCrafter> and you don't need one

L1199[15:00:23] <Zaggy1024> from what I've gathered from the code, it looks like it tries to apply the model state to all bones in the model

L1200[15:00:39] <PaleoCrafter> the JVM is good enough to deal with those short lived objects

L1201[15:00:41] <Zaggy1024> kinda dumb if you ask me, it should just apply the state to all the quads

L1202[15:00:47] <PaleoCrafter> yeah

L1203[15:00:55] <PaleoCrafter> I seem to be applying the armature the wrong way

L1204[15:01:09] <Ordinastie> there is a MutableBlockPos

L1205[15:01:50] <Zaggy1024> I know a bit about animating in Blender

L1206[15:01:54] <Zaggy1024> what're you doing?

L1207[15:01:57] <techbrew> PaleoCrafter, I've found that not to always be the case, but I'll test it and see with these

L1208[15:02:13] <PaleoCrafter> just trying to add a bone xD

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L1210[15:02:19] <PaleoCrafter> oh, do I have to apply the amature modifier?

L1211[15:02:44] <Zaggy1024> I don't think so

L1212[15:02:50] <Zaggy1024> I don't recall what that does though

L1213[15:03:02] <williewillus> is there a way to offset y rendering in 1.8? (porting a 1.7 mod, and without the old yOffset it renders too low in the ground)

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L1215[15:03:37] <PaleoCrafter> fucking fry not documenting his shit ._.

L1216[15:03:56] <Zaggy1024> Paleo, yeah, don't apply, that just makes the mesh be what the armature transforms it to, AFAIK

L1217[15:04:08] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, didn't work

L1218[15:05:24] <Zaggy1024> did you do ctrl+P and Armature Deform With Empty Groups?

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L1220[15:06:44] <PaleoCrafter> I used automatic weights or whatever

L1221[15:07:55] <Zaggy1024> hm

L1222[15:08:02] <Zaggy1024> that should work as well, I guess

L1223[15:08:44] <Zaggy1024> you could search the Blender exporter for bone code

L1224[15:08:49] <Zaggy1024> I don't have it so I can't look

L1225[15:09:12] <PaleoCrafter> it has code for it

L1226[15:09:34] <Zaggy1024> hm, link me the addon

L1227[15:09:42] <Zaggy1024> I'll see if I can make sense of it

L1228[15:11:07] <PaleoCrafter> https://github.com/RainWarrior/B3DExport/blob/master/B3DExport.py

L1229[15:11:21] <PaleoCrafter> I can send you the original .blend if you want to mess with it yourself :P

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L1232[15:13:04] <PaleoCrafter> http://puu.sh/iNhWj/0df54ef030.blend

L1233[15:13:32] <Ordinastie> meh >< http://puu.sh/iNhYp.png

L1234[15:13:57] <PaleoCrafter> lol

L1235[15:14:27] <PaleoCrafter> get a proper browser I guess? :P

L1236[15:16:40] <unascribed> not the browser

L1237[15:16:47] <unascribed> puu.sh is serving it with a text/plain content type

L1238[15:17:01] <unascribed> a proper browser displays it as a text because the server has explicitly requested it

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L1243[15:26:00] <simon816> From what I can see, forge fires EntityInteractEvent for C02PacketUseEntity.Action.INTERACT but not for C02PacketUseEntity.Action.INTERACT_AT?

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L1247[15:36:19] <Commoble> I'll just leave this here http://puu.sh/iNjhq/280d0a70a9.webm

L1248[15:37:05] <Ordinastie> that's what's used for the crosshair

L1249[15:38:16] <Commoble> The crosshair isn't a block though

L1250[15:39:07] <killjoy> Don't tell Drulkus about this. He'll copy it

L1251[15:39:31] <killjoy> Or do. It's your thing.

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L1253[15:43:57] <Commoble> okay, eclipse's Call Hierarchy isn't showing anything in my referenced (vanilla) libraries

L1254[15:44:03] <Commoble> this is irritating me

L1255[15:44:59] <Commoble> oh nvm I fixed it

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L1258[15:49:19] <Dramentiaras> HellO!

L1259[15:51:02] <killjoy> hi

L1260[15:51:25] <Dramentiaras> I was wondering if anyone could help me with a simple 1.8 block

L1261[15:52:23] <Dramentiaras> It renders fine in the world, but in my inventory it renders with missing texture, and in hand it's rendered at full block scale

L1262[15:53:13] <Dramentiaras> I have quadruple checked my item/.json file, and it's all ok, and I have no idea what is causing it

L1263[15:55:52] <killjoy> Don't you need one for inventory?

L1264[15:56:50] <ghz|afk> Dramentiaras: you have block states?

L1265[15:56:52] <Dramentiaras> No, according to all the tutorials, you need the block, item and blockstate jsons

L1266[15:56:55] <Dramentiaras> yeah

L1267[15:56:56] <ghz|afk> if so, you need an "inventory" state

L1268[15:57:03] <ghz|afk> inventory is only defaulted to "normal"

L1269[15:57:08] <ghz|afk> which is only used without defined properties

L1270[15:57:24] <ghz|afk> if you have properties you'll need an explicit "inventory" entry in the blockstates

L1271[15:57:36] <ghz|afk> which points to the default model you want to use

L1272[15:57:46] <Dramentiaras> properties?

L1273[15:57:57] <ghz|afk> if you don't know what those are

L1274[15:58:00] <ghz|afk> then you don't have them.

L1275[15:58:07] <ghz|afk> XD

L1276[15:58:11] <Dramentiaras> Thought so XD

L1277[15:58:13] <ghz|afk> so

L1278[15:58:15] <Dramentiaras> This is just a normal ore block

L1279[15:58:16] <ghz|afk> throubleshooting phase

L1280[15:58:27] <ghz|afk> do you register the renderer in your ClientProxy?

L1281[15:58:41] <Dramentiaras> Yeah, but I just noticed

L1282[15:58:52] <Dramentiaras> I thought it was an error with my ClientProxy

L1283[15:59:03] <Dramentiaras> so added a print statement in it, and it never gets called

L1284[15:59:09] <Dramentiaras> But I do call the method

L1285[15:59:13] <ghz|afk> do you have a proxy line in your mod?

L1286[15:59:21] <Dramentiaras> Yep

L1287[15:59:29] <ghz|afk> @SidedProxy(clientSide = "gigaherz.elementsofpower.client.ClientProxy", serverSide = "gigaherz.elementsofpower.CommonProxy")

L1288[15:59:29] <ghz|afk> public static CommonProxy proxy;

L1289[15:59:36] <ghz|afk> with the @SidedProxy bit?

L1290[15:59:40] <Dramentiaras> @SidedProxy(serverSide="com.dramentiaras.enderictransport.CommonProxy",clientSide="com.dramentiaras.enderictransport.client.ClientProxy")

L1291[15:59:40] <Dramentiaras> public static CommonProxy proxy;

L1292[15:59:44] <ghz|afk> aha

L1293[16:00:03] <ghz|afk> and ytou said you call the method, from your init()?

L1294[16:00:12] <Dramentiaras> yup

L1295[16:00:15] <ghz|afk> okay

L1296[16:00:17] <ghz|afk> is there anything in the logs

L1297[16:00:20] <ghz|afk> regarding missing model?

L1298[16:00:32] <Dramentiaras> Nope

L1299[16:00:48] <ghz|afk> brb

L1300[16:01:37] <Dramentiaras> Alright, now this is REALLY weird

L1301[16:02:08] <Dramentiaras> Does the console filter out all the System.out.println statements?

L1302[16:02:38] <Dramentiaras> Because I moved the proxy.registerRenderers() to my preInit, which I know works, and the println still doesnt print

L1303[16:02:55] <Ordinastie> show code

L1304[16:03:13] <Dramentiaras> @EventHandler

L1305[16:03:13] <Dramentiaras> public void preInit(FMLPreInitializationEvent event) {

L1306[16:03:13] <Dramentiaras>

L1307[16:03:13] <Dramentiaras> Configuration config = new Configuration(event.getSuggestedConfigurationFile());

L1308[16:03:13] <Dramentiaras>

L1309[16:03:13] <Dramentiaras> config.load();

L1310[16:03:13] <Dramentiaras>

L1311[16:03:14] <Dramentiaras> config.save();

L1312[16:03:14] <Dramentiaras>

L1313[16:03:15] <Dramentiaras> EndericTransportBlocks.registerBlocks();

L1314[16:03:15] <Dramentiaras> proxy.registerRenderers();

L1315[16:03:16] <Dramentiaras> }

L1316[16:03:19] <Boreeas> dude

L1317[16:03:22] <Boreeas> pastebin

L1318[16:03:25] <Ordinastie> not here -_-

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L1320[16:03:43] <Dramentiaras> Sorry

L1321[16:04:22] <ghz|afk> Dramentiaras: init, not preinit

L1322[16:04:27] <ghz|afk> the renderers are registered in init

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L1324[16:04:31] <Dramentiaras> I know

L1325[16:04:43] <Dramentiaras> Just moved it to preInit to see if it would call the print statement

L1326[16:04:47] <ghz|afk> oh

L1327[16:04:50] <Dramentiaras> But it still doesn't show up in console

L1328[16:05:05] <Dramentiaras> So am thinking that the console filters out the sysout statements

L1329[16:05:16] <Boreeas> so maybe someone who has experience with GL11 can help me. I'm trying to render a sphere in the world, like so http://pastebin.com/jJCGwuRw

L1330[16:05:19] <Ordinastie> show full code

L1331[16:05:21] <ghz|afk> https://github.com/gigaherz/NaturalTrees/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/nattrees

L1332[16:05:34] <ghz|afk> if you want to look at someone else's code for reference, this was working last time I tried it XD

L1333[16:05:38] <Boreeas> but i cant see anything

L1334[16:06:01] <ghz|afk> Boreeas: what's "coord"?

L1335[16:06:04] <Dramentiaras> Thanks, I'll try that, ghz

L1336[16:06:17] <ghz|afk> is it given by minecraft?

L1337[16:06:25] <Boreeas> nah, custom class. 3 ints, x, y, z

L1338[16:06:38] <ghz|afk> I mean where does coord come from ;P

L1339[16:06:53] <Ordinastie> and what is sphere ?

L1340[16:07:03] <Boreeas> Oh. I pass it. Server side, coord is constructed -> sent to client for rendering

L1341[16:07:19] <ghz|afk> have you checked that it contains correct values?

L1342[16:07:21] <Boreeas> Sphere is org.lwjgl.util.glu.Sphere;

L1343[16:07:25] <Boreeas> yep

L1344[16:07:27] <Ordinastie> people should really stop posting only what they think is relevant

L1345[16:08:03] <ghz|afk> I wish Mojang had made a modding license that required opensource ;P

L1346[16:08:17] <ghz|afk> many things would be simpler XD

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L1348[16:09:05] <ghz|afk> Boreeas: so if the coords are correct

L1349[16:09:13] <ghz|afk> and the sphere "must be right"

L1350[16:09:15] <Ordinastie> show full code :x

L1351[16:09:20] <ghz|afk> we need more code.

L1352[16:09:49] <Boreeas> here: http://pastebin.com/0ndMa6RY

L1353[16:09:55] <Boreeas> is the entire rendering block

L1354[16:10:54] <Boreeas> https://github.com/Boreeas/Minecraft-mods/tree/master/forgetest is the entire code, if you care looking through that

L1355[16:11:45] <ghz|afk> that isn't very helpful, as far as context is concerned, since we don't know what the opengl state is at the time "render" is called, and that code doesn't look like a Minecraft entity renderer or anything like that

L1356[16:12:10] <Ordinastie> Boreeas you need to translate relative to player

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L1358[16:12:42] <Boreeas> ghz|afk: I dunno. I'm just hooking RenderWorldLast

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L1360[16:12:54] <ghz|afk> ah so

L1361[16:13:11] <ghz|afk> hmm yeah I don't know the details of that

L1362[16:14:17] <Boreeas> Ordinastie: So if the player is 3 blocks away from the rendering location, translate by 3 blocks in the correct axis, instead of translating by the full coords?

L1363[16:14:35] <Boreeas> considering that Sphere always renders at the origin

L1364[16:14:40] <ghz|afk> the player location isn't bound to a block's coord

L1365[16:15:00] <Dramentiaras> Alright, ghz, that code works! Thanks a lot! :)

L1366[16:15:11] <ghz|afk> Dramentiaras: np

L1367[16:15:21] <ghz|afk> out of curiosity, what did you "steal"? ;P

L1368[16:15:54] <Ordinastie> Boreeas, the coordinates you use are relative to the view port

L1369[16:16:16] <Ordinastie> https://github.com/Ordinastie/MalisisCore/blob/1.7/src/main/java/net/malisis/core/renderer/MalisisRenderer.java#L440-L460

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L1371[16:20:50] <OrionOnline> Hey guys any of you know why this is happening to my model? : http://imgur.com/uhmoz82

L1372[16:21:20] <ghz|afk> OrionOnline: that's ONE model being drawn many times?

L1373[16:21:26] <OrionOnline> YES

L1374[16:21:29] <OrionOnline> sorry yes

L1375[16:21:33] <ghz|afk> b3d?

L1376[16:21:38] <OrionOnline> no obj 1.7

L1377[16:21:41] <ghz|afk> ah

L1378[16:21:46] <Ordinastie> OrionOnline, what is 'this' ?

L1379[16:21:49] <ghz|afk> that's two levels of "no idea"

L1380[16:22:03] <Commoble> yeah we can't really tell you what it's doing wrong if we're uncertain what "doing right" means

L1381[16:22:04] <OrionOnline> the partially see through

L1382[16:22:21] <Commoble> Is it supposed to be partially transparent?

L1383[16:22:36] <Ordinastie> you mean, you "accidentally" made them transparent? ><

L1384[16:22:45] <OrionOnline> it is suppossed to look like this: http://imgur.com/EkGeFEB

L1385[16:22:59] <Ordinastie> ISBHR or TESR ?

L1386[16:23:03] <OrionOnline> TESR

L1387[16:23:04] <ghz|afk> Oh

L1388[16:23:11] <ghz|afk> so it's just the see-through

L1389[16:23:12] <Ordinastie> you enabled blending

L1390[16:23:14] <Commoble> Did you accidentally change the alpha in the texture?

L1391[16:23:17] <ghz|afk> not that they are drawn multiple times with only one TE

L1392[16:23:41] <Boreeas> Ordinastie: Okay thats that looks a lot better. for some reason, the sphere is changing color though? from light green to almost black green

L1393[16:23:58] <Boreeas> and if I turn the player past a certain degree it disappears...

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L1395[16:24:06] <Ordinastie> you don't specify UVs

L1396[16:24:10] <OrionOnline> Ordinastie Blending is indeed active

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L1398[16:24:22] <OrionOnline> Yet it has to be cause the model has parts that are made out of glass

L1399[16:24:23] <Boreeas> fwiw what I did was change the translation to GL11.glTranslated(coord.x - player.posX + 0.5, coord.y - player.posY + 0.5, coord.z - player.posZ + 0.5);

L1400[16:24:30] <Ordinastie> OrionOnline, well, disable it

L1401[16:24:36] <Commoble> If you're not using partial transparency you don't need blending on

L1402[16:24:55] <OrionOnline> okey

L1403[16:24:58] <Commoble> Full transparency (normal glass, signs, etc) works without it

L1404[16:25:28] <ghz|afk> that's using alpha testing ;P

L1405[16:25:28] <OrionOnline> okey

L1406[16:25:55] <OrionOnline> Someone told me i had to activate the blending to make the seethrough work

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L1408[16:26:15] <ghz|afk> blending allows it to have the full range of alpha values 0..255

L1409[16:26:27] <ghz|afk> alpha testing will skip drawing pixels with alpha < a given value

L1410[16:26:31] <ghz|afk> often 128(0.5)

L1411[16:27:29] <Ordinastie> alpha testing is also in effect when blending is enabled

L1412[16:27:38] <ghz|afk> both are optional though

L1413[16:27:40] <OrionOnline> oke

L1414[16:27:44] <ghz|afk> at least as far as opengl is concerned

L1415[16:27:45] <Ordinastie> and as a matter of fact, ISBRH has it set to > 0.1F

L1416[16:28:18] <Ordinastie> which mean you can't have clean fade out from 100 to 0 :'(

L1417[16:28:19] <OrionOnline> If i disabvle the blending the seethrough parts are not seethourgh any more

L1418[16:28:33] <OrionOnline> tehy just turn black, cause that is the color of the glass

L1419[16:28:35] <OrionOnline> BRB

L1420[16:28:37] <Ordinastie> OrionOnline, the texture is wrong then

L1421[16:28:48] <OrionOnline> oke

L1422[16:29:04] <Ordinastie> if the texture alpha for the glass = 0 ?

L1423[16:29:13] <Ordinastie> or is it partially transparent ?

L1424[16:29:42] <Commoble> Put another way, is it supposed to be more like vanilla glass blocks or vanilla ice blocks?

L1425[16:30:12] <Ordinastie> Commoble, rather, is it clear glass or stained glass ?

L1426[16:30:31] <ghz|afk> heh

L1427[16:30:52] <ghz|afk> I wanted to give another comparison, but I couldn't think of one on time

L1428[16:31:51] <ghz|afk> what else does minecraft have using CUTOUT mode? leaves?

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L1430[16:35:34] <kirby|snoring> is it possible to write a server-side only mod?

L1431[16:36:12] <ghz|afk> yes.

L1432[16:36:19] <kirby|snoring> how do I do that?

L1433[16:36:31] <ghz|afk> I don't remember XD

L1434[16:36:34] <killjoy> acceptableVersions = "*"

L1435[16:36:41] <killjoy> in your @Mod

L1436[16:37:12] <kirby|snoring> And the client will crash if I try to do something not possible?

L1437[16:37:40] <killjoy> Just don't add anything to the registry

L1438[16:37:58] <kirby|snoring> But like writing a mod to handle MOTD and auto shutdown should be fine?

L1439[16:38:04] <killjoy> Yes.

L1440[16:38:08] <killjoy> Events are fine

L1441[16:38:21] * kirby|snoring takes his knowlage of Bukkit and brings it with him

L1442[16:38:22] <killjoy> As long as they're called on the server, it'll be fine

L1443[16:38:45] <kirby|snoring> But what if they're supposed to be called on the client? Nothing will happen?

L1444[16:38:52] <killjoy> They won't be called

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L1446[16:39:32] <ghz|afk> if you don't have a client side, nothing client-side will ever get called

L1447[16:39:42] <ghz|afk> because the server won't make any effort to call it

L1448[16:40:12] <ghz|afk> all functions that do get called, will have worldObj.isRemote always false, for example

L1449[16:40:29] <killjoy> You can use a proxy if you really want to

L1450[16:40:34] <killjoy> But it shouldn't be required if it's not a client mod

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L1460[16:49:18] <Boreeas> so, the sphere renders - as long as i

L1461[16:49:25] <Boreeas> 'm looking south or east

L1462[16:49:31] <Boreeas> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L1463[16:50:51] <Boreeas> oh, and if i step far enough back the problem fixes itself

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L1465[16:53:43] <killjoy> Maybe it's like a spoon

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L1467[16:58:25] <OrionOnline> Ordinastie, what do you mean with the Texture is wrong?

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L1469[16:59:02] <Commoble> OrionOnline, the alpha values in your texture are incorrect, I think

L1470[16:59:04] <OrionOnline> Ordinastie, this is the texture it tries to render: https://github.com/SmithsModding/Armory/blob/Development/resources/assets/armory/textures/blocks/FirePit/DestroyedMetalWall.png

L1471[16:59:33] <Commoble> And is that supposed to be partially transparent?

L1472[16:59:41] <OrionOnline> Yers

L1473[16:59:46] <OrionOnline> like stained glass

L1474[16:59:47] <Ordinastie> ok, then you do need blending

L1475[16:59:59] <Ordinastie> but you need the right blend function

L1476[17:00:05] <Commoble> Okay, question two: Is the *whole texture* supposed to be partially transparent?

L1477[17:00:37] <Ordinastie> (you texture looks weird though)

L1478[17:00:52] <ghz|afk> uh, that texture is most definitely semitransparent

L1479[17:00:57] <ghz|afk> your screenshot looks right

L1480[17:01:04] <ghz|afk> the version in hand looks wrong instead ;P

L1481[17:01:15] <OrionOnline> Commoble, it is a model that consists out of multiple components, roughly 25 individual pieces, 4 of those pieces are partially seethrough

L1482[17:01:43] <OrionOnline> ghz|afk, why does it look wrong?

L1483[17:01:53] <Commoble> I mean on that specific texture you posted, the DestroyedMetalWall

L1484[17:01:55] <ghz|afk> can the v1.7 obj loader use multiple textures at once at all?

L1485[17:02:00] <Commoble> Is that whole texture supposed to be partially transparent?

L1486[17:02:06] <OrionOnline> yes

L1487[17:02:11] <ghz|afk> you may need to combine all the models' textures in one atlas

L1488[17:02:13] <Commoble> Even the dark grey border parts?

L1489[17:02:17] <OrionOnline> ghz|afk, it can render individual parts

L1490[17:02:21] <OrionOnline> Commoble, Yes

L1491[17:02:35] <Commoble> Then I don't see the problem

L1492[17:02:37] <Ordinastie> https://github.com/Ordinastie/MalisisCore/blob/1.7/src/main/java/net/malisis/core/renderer/MalisisRenderer.java#L653-L664

L1493[17:03:24] <Commoble> hmm

L1494[17:03:52] <OrionOnline> Ordinastie, do you also have a function to disable that??

L1495[17:04:22] <Commoble> Try changing that glblendfunc to GL11.glBlendFunc(GL11.GL_SRC_ALPHA, GL11.GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA);

L1496[17:05:03] <Ordinastie> OrionOnline, just glDisable them if need to

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L1498[17:05:40] <OrionOnline> and the shademodel, alphafunc and blendfunc stuff

L1499[17:05:44] <OrionOnline> ?

L1500[17:05:57] <Ordinastie> you don't really need them

L1501[17:06:15] <Ordinastie> enable GL_BEND and the glBlendFunc are what you need

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L1503[17:06:35] <PaleoCrafter> Ordinastie, why change the shade model? Oo

L1504[17:06:55] <Ordinastie> just in case

L1505[17:07:21] <OrionOnline> Ordinastie, That seemed to have fixed the issue

L1506[17:07:36] <PaleoCrafter> just in case for what? :P

L1507[17:07:51] <OrionOnline> One last question then all my problems i had collected over the last couple of days are solved

L1508[17:08:26] <OrionOnline> I have a MultiBlock, which is rendered from one single TE out, the master, all the slave TE's render seethrough.

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L1511[17:09:15] <OrionOnline> NOw when the master TE gets out of render bounds (not vissible cause not in FOV, the whole structure disappears, which is logical. BUt is there a way to set the masterblocks render bounds bigger?

L1512[17:09:31] <Ordinastie> PaleoCrafter, you know me, I just copy/pasted some MC code :p

L1513[17:09:38] <PaleoCrafter> lol

L1514[17:09:46] <Ordinastie> tileEntity.getRenderBounds()

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L1521[17:21:04] <ghz|afk> anyone knows anywhere that explains what the different constructors on entities are used for?

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L1524[17:22:58] <killjoy> we need wiki-like javadocs for this sort of thing.

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L1527[17:23:41] <killjoy> mcpbot for names, a wiki for descriptions

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L1529[17:25:05] <PaleoCrafter> uhm, what, killjoy? :P

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L1531[17:26:08] <killjoy> I'd do it myself if I knew how to generate javadocs from scratch.

L1532[17:26:25] <PaleoCrafter> I've been working on this: http://docs.forge.mineformers.de/ have to pick it up again xD

L1533[17:26:43] <PaleoCrafter> don't tell anybody it exists, lol

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L1535[17:28:58] <killjoy> What language is this?

L1536[17:29:01] <killjoy> german?

L1537[17:29:16] <PaleoCrafter> hm?

L1538[17:29:18] <PaleoCrafter> in the overview?

L1539[17:29:26] <killjoy> Yes

L1540[17:29:31] <PaleoCrafter> it's fake latin

L1541[17:29:38] <PaleoCrafter> (a part of lorem ipsum)

L1542[17:29:47] <killjoy> Well google tries to translate it

L1543[17:30:00] <killjoy> Minecraft: Heuretess travel, as yellow coordinates. Alas, the second-stealer! By witnesses full false, a poet, a strong bubo.

L1544[17:30:25] <killjoy> That's all of them, actually

L1545[17:32:02] <sham1> Some parts of lorem ipsum are actual latin script

L1546[17:32:20] <PaleoCrafter> when I'll finally have vacation, I'll finish Abrar's class-to-JSON shit and finish the site

L1547[17:32:38] <killjoy> Is it open source?

L1548[17:32:55] <PaleoCrafter> the site or the class-to-JSON stuff? :P

L1549[17:32:59] <killjoy> site

L1550[17:33:04] <PaleoCrafter> it will be eventually

L1551[17:33:17] <killjoy> You refuse to let us see your horrible code?

L1552[17:33:24] <PaleoCrafter> it isn't that horrible

L1553[17:33:32] <killjoy> But it's still horrible?

L1554[17:34:01] <PaleoCrafter> but I want to have the proper JSON structure nailed down and implemented because atm that is sort of a mess :P

L1555[17:34:50] <PaleoCrafter> but the code itself is fairly nice, imo, at least for a web project xD

L1556[17:36:32] <shadekiller666> minecraft uses GL_CCW as glFrontFace right?

L1557[17:36:39] <PaleoCrafter> yes

L1558[17:36:50] <shadekiller666> ok

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L1562[17:44:32] <Commoble> alright, I think I'm veeeery close to finishing what I started this week

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L1564[17:45:08] <Commoble> All I need to do is figure out how to change the model of an individual block that uses a TESR tileentity during runtime

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L1576[17:58:37] <pixlepix> Is there a simple way to get the class names of all parts in a FMP block as strings

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L1578[18:02:49] <sham1> Class <?>.getName() ;)

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L1580[18:03:29] <pixlepix> sham1: I’m asking about FMP in particular

L1581[18:03:40] <Boreeas> Hm. So the only explanation I can find is that lwjgl refuses to render the sphere if only the "backside" is visible :|

L1582[18:03:46] <sham1> And?

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L1584[18:04:09] <pixlepix> Not sure hoe exactly it works, but it doesn’t seem like the Part is the TileEntity in world

L1585[18:04:18] <PaleoCrafter> pixlepix,

L1586[18:04:24] <PaleoCrafter> whoops

L1587[18:04:31] <PaleoCrafter> you can read out the partList

L1588[18:04:36] <PaleoCrafter> it's a scala collection though

L1589[18:04:59] <sham1> Java converters :D

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L1591[18:05:26] <PaleoCrafter> yeah, not as nice to use from Java though :P

L1592[18:05:43] <Commoble> Hey, I got a question about packets. Suppose I have a tileentity that stores an integer that changes when a neighbor block changes, and I want to render that tileentity differently based on that integer. Do I need to use a packet for this?

L1593[18:05:48] <killjoy> I got your class json format right here. http://hastebin.com/ruxudeheso.json

L1594[18:05:58] <pixlepix> I don’t suppose it’s possible to do that without a library of FMP?

L1595[18:06:05] <sham1> Well they arent

L1596[18:06:23] <sham1> But it's there if you need it

L1597[18:06:27] <PaleoCrafter> killjoy, is taht auto generted from a class file?

L1598[18:06:34] <killjoy> No.

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L1600[18:06:34] <tterrag> pixlepix: of course not

L1601[18:06:50] <killjoy> I could make it auto-generated, though

L1602[18:06:58] <PaleoCrafter> go ahead

L1603[18:07:01] <killjoy> Except there wouldn't be javadocs

L1604[18:07:28] <PaleoCrafter> and I'd like it to be a bit more specific, type args should be "exploded" :P

L1605[18:07:39] <sham1> JavaConversions actually seem something that you can actually call in java and not make it look ugly

L1606[18:08:06] <PaleoCrafter> and you haven't even covered annotation definitions yet

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L1608[18:08:17] <pixlepix> Are all FMP blocks done under one TE class?

L1609[18:08:26] <PaleoCrafter> of course, that's how MC works :P

L1610[18:08:51] <pixlepix> Yeah, but FMP is black magic :P

L1611[18:08:56] <sham1> I prefer the term Chicken Multiparts

L1612[18:09:01] <pixlepix> Don’t suppose anyone knows that name?

L1613[18:09:09] <pixlepix> Scala confuses me :P

L1614[18:09:48] <PaleoCrafter> because you come from the wrong background :P

L1615[18:10:23] <sham1> Java to Scala can be kinda hard to transision

L1616[18:11:04] <PaleoCrafter> also depends :P

L1617[18:11:30] <sham1> Mm

L1618[18:12:07] <PaleoCrafter> people who will only get to know Java 8 should have a far more easier transition (asuming they're learning the proper concepts xD)

L1619[18:12:27] <sham1> My scala code was pretty much java code with some stuff from scala splattered in it like pattern matching

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L1622[18:13:02] <PaleoCrafter> anyways, I should go to sleep

L1623[18:13:04] <shadekiller666> so, i'm trying to render the 3 axis-aligned lines when the F3 screen is active, and i know how, but for some reason the lines are darker than than the ones on the F3 screen

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L1625[18:13:18] <PaleoCrafter> BTM was just too much fun xD

L1626[18:13:19] <sham1> I should also try sleeping

L1627[18:13:36] <PaleoCrafter> shadekiller666, disable lighting

L1628[18:14:26] <sham1> Disable and render. Then re-enable lighting

L1629[18:15:00] <shadekiller666> do i have to do anything special to re enable? or just do GL11.glEnable(GL11.GL_LIGHTING) ?

L1630[18:15:24] <shadekiller666> like, set any extra parameters or something?

L1631[18:15:36] <sham1> AFAIK no

L1632[18:16:53] <shadekiller666> ok

L1633[18:16:56] <shadekiller666> thanks

L1634[18:17:01] <PaleoCrafter> OpenGL is fairly nice as that its methods don't have any side effects apart from the ones you tell it to have :P

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L1637[18:18:32] <killjoy> I need to think how to handle generic types

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L1640[18:26:24] <HassanS6000> This fly is soooo anoying...

L1641[18:26:45] <HassanS6000> As is this entity -_-

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L1648[18:52:23] <Commoble> Okay, my packets are throwing out FMLIndexedMessageCodec exception caught

L1649[18:52:23] <Commoble> io.netty.handler.codec.EncoderException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Integer is too big for 4 bytes

L1650[18:52:41] <Commoble> Why are my integers too big for 4 bytes

L1651[18:52:53] <Commoble> (I'm trying to pass x-y-z coords through the packet)

L1652[18:56:05] <Katielyn> No code, No logs

L1653[18:56:14] <Katielyn> We can't help you.

L1654[18:56:16] <Commoble> one sec

L1655[18:57:36] <Horfius> It's how you encode them

L1656[18:57:42] <HassanS6000> Would it be possible/easy to have an entity that can be mounted by TWO players

L1657[18:57:59] <williewillus> not directly, but you could have a dummy entity

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L1659[18:59:26] <HassanS6000> So like spawn a second entity?

L1660[18:59:32] <HassanS6000> ?

L1661[19:00:27] <williewillus> idk I think there's multiple ways to do it

L1662[19:00:56] <williewillus> you might be able to just add another field and override the mount method, but idk how it works in that case

L1663[19:01:35] <williewillus> Commoble: 1.7 or 1.8? in 1.8 you just do buf.writeLong(pos.toLong()) and BlockPos.fromLong(buf.readLong())

L1664[19:01:49] <williewillus> ezpz

L1665[19:01:53] <Commoble> 1.7

L1666[19:02:04] <williewillus> show code then

L1667[19:02:06] <Commoble> And I'm using regular ints, not longs. Can ints be 8 bytes in java?

L1668[19:02:10] <Commoble> Yeah, I'm working on that

L1669[19:02:22] <williewillus> just pastbein that one class :p

L1670[19:03:12] <Commoble> http://pastebin.com/47L1zyxp

L1671[19:03:16] <Commoble> That's the packet class

L1672[19:03:32] <williewillus> er why do you need writeVarInt

L1673[19:03:36] <williewillus> just buf.writeInt :p

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L1675[19:03:48] <Commoble> Iiiii did not see that option, my bad

L1676[19:03:54] <Commoble> That sounds better

L1677[19:08:16] <Commoble> "A fatal error has occured, this connection is terminated". Ecch. http://pastebin.com/RU0rE1e1

L1678[19:08:33] <Horfius> lol, ints in 8 bytes

L1679[19:08:37] <Horfius> That's funny

L1680[19:08:57] <Ordinastie> Commoble, you need a no arg ctor

L1681[19:09:05] <Commoble> ooh

L1682[19:09:26] <HassanS6000> Lol I think I figured it out

L1683[19:09:45] <HassanS6000> Since all I want is for this second player to be able to sit in the entity

L1684[19:09:47] <HassanS6000> All he has to do

L1685[19:09:52] <Commoble> is sit on the other rider?

L1686[19:09:58] <HassanS6000> xD Commoble that's the idea

L1687[19:10:10] <HassanS6000> just offset a little ;)

L1688[19:10:24] <Ordinastie> and what happens when first dismount ?

L1689[19:10:34] <HassanS6000> IT WORKED

L1690[19:10:39] <HassanS6000> When the first dismount

L1691[19:10:44] <HassanS6000> The second is dismounted as well

L1692[19:11:05] <HassanS6000> also

L1693[19:11:13] <HassanS6000> the second can't dismount unless the first does -_-

L1694[19:11:15] <HassanS6000> lol that b bad

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L1696[19:12:17] <williewillus> maybe try having a second "rider" field in the vehicle

L1697[19:12:20] <williewillus> and override the mountEntity method

L1698[19:12:39] <shadekiller666> does anyone know where minecraft's default brightness values are set?

L1699[19:12:51] <williewillus> wait

L1700[19:12:54] <clienthax> shadekiller666: game settings ?

L1701[19:13:01] <williewillus> nvm it works in reverse so you can't override mountetntity

L1702[19:13:03] <shadekiller666> disabling then re-enabling GL_LIGHTING makes everything else darker

L1703[19:13:13] <Commoble> oh my crap it finally works

L1704[19:13:21] <shadekiller666> client, i mean code-wise

L1705[19:13:23] <williewillus> lol yay

L1706[19:13:39] <Kobata> shadekiller666, did you make sure it was actually on before you disabled it?

L1707[19:13:52] <shadekiller666> yes kobata

L1708[19:14:00] <Commoble> I made a semitransparent TESR with a 1x1x1 cube model render next to similar blocks in the same way a normal semitransparent block does

L1709[19:14:11] <shadekiller666> what i'm rendering is darker if i don't disable

L1710[19:14:24] <Kobata> In most cases there's a helper function

L1711[19:14:38] <Kobata> Like enableStandardItemLighting or something

L1712[19:14:47] <tmtu> shadekiller666: push lighting bit

L1713[19:14:55] <clienthax> shadekiller666: yeah so do i

L1714[19:14:58] <HassanS6000> williewillus, do you know where in an Entity it dismounts?

L1715[19:15:02] <HassanS6000> Can't find the method

L1716[19:15:07] <williewillus> it's mount(null)

L1717[19:15:10] <tmtu> glPushAttrib(GL_LIGHTING_BIT);

L1718[19:15:10] <williewillus> because mojang

L1719[19:15:11] <clienthax> Default value prob in the settings class

L1720[19:15:21] <clienthax> Mc.gamesettings

L1721[19:15:24] <clienthax> Or whatever

L1722[19:15:40] <HassanS6000> lol

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L1724[19:16:08] <shadekiller666> tmtu, before or after re-enabling?

L1725[19:16:25] <shadekiller666> after results in a GL ERROR stack overflow

L1726[19:16:27] <williewillus> in the vehicle you can make the 1st rider use normal vanilla mounting mechanics, but then the second rider is using your own field, and you override updateRiderPosition to carry the 2nd one around too, or something

L1727[19:16:30] <Horfius> I would imagine befor

L1728[19:17:04] <tmtu> oh, nevermind

L1729[19:17:11] <HassanS6000> where is it called williewillus

L1730[19:17:20] <HassanS6000> williewillus, I did do that already :P

L1731[19:17:22] <williewillus> where is what called?

L1732[19:17:32] <HassanS6000> Can't make it so second rider dismounts

L1733[19:17:33] <HassanS6000> ever

L1734[19:17:34] <HassanS6000> lol

L1735[19:17:44] <HassanS6000> Where is mount(null) called

L1736[19:17:47] <tmtu> shadekiller666: glPushAttrib(GL_ENABLE_BIT); glDisable(GL_LIGHTING; glPopAttrib();

L1737[19:17:53] <williewillus> when the player hits shift? :p

L1738[19:18:04] <tmtu> no wiat

L1739[19:18:13] <tmtu> GL_LIGHTING_BIT

L1740[19:18:15] <tmtu> stupid opengl

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L1742[19:18:32] <shadekiller666> push the attribute before disabling?

L1743[19:18:36] <HassanS6000> xD but that won't happen for second rider

L1744[19:18:42] <HassanS6000> so I'll just make it so when first rider dismounts

L1745[19:18:44] <HassanS6000> second one does too

L1746[19:18:49] <HassanS6000> kinda shitty but..

L1747[19:18:50] <Zaggy1024> sup

L1748[19:18:50] <HassanS6000> lol

L1749[19:18:53] <Commoble> So I want my block to have this stupid non-standard glBlend function. But I can't do that with normal blocks because of the way block rendering is optimized. But I can make TESRs do it. But if I make a 1x1x1 cube TESR it doesn't hide faces next to other blocks like a normal block does, so if there's a bunch next to each other they all look ugly from certain angles: http://i.imgur.com/xX235cF.png

L1750[19:18:55] <tmtu> so every state change to lighting is reset

L1751[19:19:28] <Zaggy1024> Commoble, does that have top and bottom faces?

L1752[19:19:36] <shadekiller666> so do those 3 things, then render my stuff, then re-enable?

L1753[19:19:37] <Kobata> Commoble: Run it in the transparent pass like colored glass?

L1754[19:19:41] <tmtu> no

L1755[19:19:45] <Commoble> It is in the transparent pass

L1756[19:19:57] <Zaggy1024> Kobata, looks like he wants to invert colors

L1757[19:20:02] <tmtu> put your stuff inbetween the attrib stack you pushed

L1758[19:20:02] <Zaggy1024> can't do that with blcok render passes

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L1760[19:20:15] <Kobata> Stencil buffer and post-process filter?

L1761[19:20:19] <Commoble> The problem is that more faces are rendered then necessary and they get blended extra times. Since there's color-inverting going on, this just turns the colors back to normal and makes it look invisible when they cancel out.

L1762[19:20:23] <shadekiller666> pushAttrib, disable, render, enable, popAttrib?

L1763[19:20:28] <Kobata> That's how you'd probably do that effect 'properly' at least

L1764[19:20:30] <Commoble> I've already done all that, shade

L1765[19:20:33] <Zaggy1024> ohhh I see

L1766[19:20:35] <tmtu> pushAttrib, disable, render, popAttrib

L1767[19:20:40] <Commoble> The problem was that too many faces are rendering

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L1769[19:21:14] <shadekiller666> tmtu, do i have to re-enable lighting after that? or is that handled by popAttrib?

L1770[19:21:45] <tmtu> popAttrib

L1771[19:21:59] <Commoble> The workaround I made was making 64 different models with different faces enabled and just changing them whenever a neighbor block changed.

L1772[19:22:04] <shadekiller666> ok

L1773[19:22:37] <shadekiller666> and its pushAttrib(LIGHTING_BIT), disable LIGHTING, popAttrib right?

L1774[19:22:54] <tmtu> yes

L1775[19:22:58] <shadekiller666> ok

L1776[19:23:54] <shadekiller666> looks like that worked, thanks tmtu

L1777[19:29:02] <tterrag> if the only thing you are doing is switching the lighting on and off, attrib push/pop is a bit much

L1778[19:29:05] <tterrag> just undo your change

L1779[19:29:33] <tmtu> then he has to check if it was on or off

L1780[19:29:52] <tterrag> you can pretty much assume it's on

L1781[19:29:56] <tterrag> in a TESR it always should be

L1782[19:30:05] <tterrag> if not something else leaked state

L1783[19:32:25] <Commoble> Puush doesn't seem to be working but here's a screenshot of the end result http://i.imgur.com/LGadTfp.png

L1784[19:34:16] <HassanS6000> How would I override the mount code.. if it's in EntityLivingbase?

L1785[19:34:52] <tterrag> don't :P

L1786[19:35:13] <HassanS6000> xD

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L1788[19:38:46] <Commoble> Alright, next problem: Figuring out how to prevent animals from spawning during initial world generation (of a dimension identical to the normal one)

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L1791[19:40:45] <HassanS6000> Yay I figured it out

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L1796[19:56:26] <ghz|afk> Commoble: hook the entity spawn event and deny it if it's your dimension?

L1797[19:56:57] <Commoble> Would you believe I already tried that

L1798[19:57:19] <ghz|afk> I'm open-minded, I can believe anything

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L1800[20:00:40] <Commoble> This is what I'm doing. Is this not the right event? http://pastebin.com/jz4DvWnd

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L1802[20:03:13] <Commoble> "For some reason this doesn't seem to fire for EntityAnimal or its subclasses." Oh, thanks jabelar.

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L1807[20:14:22] <Commoble> alright, cancelling the EntityJoinWorldEvent worked

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L1811[20:37:43] <ghz|afk> making this mod is making me a sadist :/

L1812[20:37:58] <ghz|afk> I have spent more time sending animals to their deaths than actually designing new spells

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L1821[20:53:14] <Zaggy1024> mmmm hamburgers

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L1828[20:57:18] <Commoble> agh no I was wrong, I still get cows even if I cancel EntityJoinWorldEvent

L1829[20:58:10] <Commoble> maybe I can use AllowDespawn? If I'm understanding what it does, it'll work if I use it right but it'll also prevent the player from spawning cows with cow eggs but that's okay

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L1832[21:03:15] <Commoble> No, that just allows the entity to despawn if the entityage is old enough. Ecch.

L1833[21:05:01] <Commoble> oh god I think I'm an idiot

L1834[21:05:15] <Commoble> I've been using @EventHandler instead of @SubscribeEvent. That might be wrong.

L1835[21:09:10] <ghz|afk> LOL

L1836[21:09:20] <ghz|afk> @EventHandler is for the mod file only

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L1840[21:19:45] <killjoy> Are constructors shown in enum javadocs?

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L1855[21:42:09] <pibx10> hey guys, sorry for the shameless advertising but i wanted to ask if anyone knew of a good place to request additions to a modding team. the current team is really busy so i need to find anyone wanting to help out with our mod

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L1857[21:48:13] <luacs1998> you might want to be nice and state what your mod is

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L1861[21:50:59] <pibx10> lol sorry the mod is named elemental essences you can find a download and post about it here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/2460886-1-7-10-elemental-essences-v0-5

L1862[21:51:28] <pibx10> we are currently working on an evolution system, a power system, and interesting new crafting systems.

L1863[21:51:33] <pibx10> as the top priority

L1864[21:51:46] <pibx10> along with documentation as a last priority before working on features

L1865[21:52:28] <DarkEvilMac> This might be a stupid question but is downforeveryoneorjustme down?

L1866[21:52:45] <TehNut> DarkEvilMac: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/downforeveryoneorjustme.com

L1867[21:52:52] <TehNut> Kappa

L1868[21:52:56] <TehNut> But no, it's up for me

L1869[21:53:01] <DarkEvilMac> god damnit why did I click that.

L1870[21:53:08] <TehNut> LOL

L1871[21:53:30] <TehNut> Is up http://tehnut.info/share/EMQogDFAx.png

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L1874[21:53:50] <DarkEvilMac> TehNut, Is files.nminecraftforge.net down?

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L1876[21:53:59] <TehNut> nope

L1877[21:54:04] <DarkEvilMac> god damnit.

L1878[21:54:08] <TehNut> Seems your internet committed sudoku?

L1879[21:54:14] <DarkEvilMac> ._.

L1880[21:54:23] <DarkEvilMac> I think my isp is just running in circles or something.

L1881[21:54:30] <DarkEvilMac> cause big sites seem to load fine.

L1882[21:54:40] <DarkEvilMac> but anything that isn't really common is down.

L1883[21:54:43] <TehNut> Try flushing your DNS?

L1884[21:55:06] <DarkEvilMac> Ya, I'm gonna give that a try in a minute. Just figured I would check if it was just me first.

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L1886[21:56:17] <DarkEvilMac> cant reach my router's page

L1887[21:56:18] <DarkEvilMac> lolwut

L1888[21:56:27] <DarkEvilMac> maybe it's updating or something.

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L1891[22:00:16] <DarkEvilMac> Ultimate solution, unplug and plug the router back in \o/

L1892[22:01:06] <TehNut> :P

L1893[22:02:54] <JordanJ2> Hello, I'm getting a forge error while trying to use optifine with forge. I've followed these instructions - https://imgur.com/lA2Jh6y - this is my error log http://hastebin.com/ivuyezapog.avrasm

L1894[22:03:17] <TehNut> That log isn't working

L1895[22:03:49] <DarkEvilMac> JordanJ2, use forge 1486 and the latest 1.8.0 build of Optifine HD Ultra

L1896[22:03:53] <DarkEvilMac> that worked fine for me.

L1897[22:04:00] <JordanJ2> Ah. I'll try it

L1898[22:04:38] <DarkEvilMac> http://adfoc.us/serve/sitelinks/?id=271228&url=http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/net/minecraftforge/forge/1.8-11.14.3.1486/forge-1.8-11.14.3.1486-installer.jar <- 1486

L1899[22:04:43] <DarkEvilMac> Optifine <- http://adf.ly/404181/optifine.net/adloadx?f=OptiFine_1.8.0_HD_U_D5.jar

L1900[22:04:44] <DarkEvilMac> just in case.

L1901[22:04:54] <JordanJ2> http://paste.ee/p/SZuQT

L1902[22:05:16] <DarkEvilMac> ya

L1903[22:05:21] <DarkEvilMac> update to the forge listed

L1904[22:05:25] <DarkEvilMac> and use the Optifine listed.

L1905[22:05:31] <JordanJ2> Will try that.

L1906[22:05:37] <DarkEvilMac> You can't use 1.8.X builds of optifine for 1.8.0 forge :P

L1907[22:05:41] <shadekiller666> man, these gl calls are a pain in the ass to setup right :p

L1908[22:05:49] <JordanJ2> Ah

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L1911[22:16:45] <JordanJ2> Appreciate the help DarkEvilMac

L1912[22:17:17] <shadekiller666> if i want to render text thats fixed to a point on a gui from outside of a gui renderer (ie. from the GL11 offsets used to render blocks in the world), how would i do so

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L1914[22:22:07] <JordanJ2> DarkEvilMac: Seems that optifine isn't loading when Forge starts up. It's in my .minecraft/mods folder.

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L1917[22:22:55] <pibx10> Would it be best to just request help on the mine craft forums?

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L1944[23:57:45] <killjoy> PaleOff, http://hastebin.com/enefucegev.json

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