L33[09:19:28] <darsie> So I accidently used a LF+Ox tank for my Nerv and had too little dv. Should I improvise and let Jeb finish the trip back on EVA or fix the rocket and fly again?

L34[09:21:01] <Mat2ch> That depends on your playstyle. Do you like to cleanup the mistakes or redo them?

L35[09:22:01] <darsie> No, but you had troubles with your Tylo mission, so I wanted to help you by showing you what I'd come up with.

L36[09:22:53] <Mat2ch> :)

L37[09:22:57] <darsie> :)

L38[09:23:03] <Mat2ch> I'm doing the ISRO thing now.

L39[09:23:10] <Mat2ch> Well, it's not done yet

L40[09:23:15] <darsie> That still leaves me floating.

L41[09:23:17] <Mat2ch> but it's the way I want to go.

L42[09:23:30] <Mat2ch> Just go back and redo the mission.

L43[09:23:37] <darsie> ok :)

L45[09:24:14] <Mat2ch> If I make such a mistake I go back and correct it. It's clearly an oversight.

L46[09:31:34] <darsie> Hehe, by removing the Ox I gained ~900 m/s in the VAB.

L47[09:32:03] <darsie> Unfortunately there's no LF only adapter.

L48[09:32:31] <darsie> Mk3 to 2.5 m

L49[09:33:07] <Mat2ch> yeah, some parts are just inconsistant :(

L50[09:35:51] <darsie> Maybe the LF tanks are mostly for aviation and such an adapter isn't needed there.

L53[09:46:01] <Mat2ch> well, I can switch between LF and LFO on some tanks. Not sure if that is stock or a fuel switcher mod.

L55[09:49:10] <Pinkbeast> I don't think stock has any fuel switching (but ICBW)

L56[09:59:52] <Mat2ch> It's so neatly integrated, it feels like stock and only works for switching between LF and LFO

L58[10:21:55] <packbart> if you use the Station Parts mod, you've got at least the B9 switcher mod

L59[10:22:54] <packbart> but I vaguely remember switchable stock tanks. but that's not plausible, so could be memory noise

L60[10:23:25] <packbart> I started modding early and don't really remember stock KSP :)

L61[10:26:39] <sandbox> I had a dream that I only ever used 2 mods but I can't remember exactly which

L62[10:27:42] <packbart> well, it started out with KER and MechJeb and grew a bit from there

L63[10:30:05] <sandbox> heh I remember the streams with MechJeb and Capt'n Skunky and the outrage it caused at the time xD

L64[10:31:26] <sandbox> he just couldn't resist exploding in rage whenever anyone brought it up

L65[10:31:43] <sandbox> so people kept winding him up

L68[10:35:56] <Mat2ch> lol

L69[10:36:08] <Mat2ch> "using MechJeb is not playing it right! It's cheating!"

L70[10:36:12] <Mat2ch> I remember the discussion :D

L71[10:36:34] <sandbox> 12 years ago probably

L72[10:37:16] <sandbox> he's still on reddit

L73[11:11:33] <darsie> https://0x0.st/XY05.png I pulled the port and engine apart a bit for realism, because IRL stages aren't attached at the rocket nozzle bell, but with the interstage fairing. Out of habit I ditched the fairing for efficiency before circularization, but in this case it looks silly. I regret it, but not enough to redo the ascent.

L74[11:14:24] <darsie> Multi burn departures are tedious and inaccurate.

L75[11:14:32] <darsie> I guess there's a mod for that.

L76[11:19:26] <Mat2ch> there's node splitter mod, but it makes the burn also inaccurate.

L77[11:19:47] <Mat2ch> Leaving 30 mins early or late results in a different trajectory.

L78[12:02:25] <Pinkbeast> I've had satisfactory results with node splitter. Also unsatisfactory ones. What I don't know is how to get one or the other :-/

L79[12:22:34] <Mat2ch> I'm not sure if the node splitter mod is the right thing here. Best would probably be your own numerical approach

L80[12:37:44] <sandbox> 1337

L83[12:52:53] <FLHerne> .outcome add Jeb is thrown off the flight for attempting to smuggle snacks, saving his life.

L84[12:52:53] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Jeb is thrown off the flight for attempting to smuggle snacks, saving his life.

L85[13:10:02] <sandbox> !mission

L86[13:10:02] <LunchBot> You set out on your mission with nefarious porpoises in mind. You are banned from proposing new missions.

L101[17:52:56] <xxcoder> ;mission

L102[17:52:56] <LunchBot> You try to integrate BD Armory and Dark Multiplayer. You are exiled to a forest where you learn what the fox says.

L103[17:53:11] <xxcoder> yeah I dont know what those are lol

L104[17:53:17] <xxcoder> I guess fox will teach me what those are'

L105[17:54:52] <Althego> fox says hehehehe

L106[17:54:57] <Althego> at least when they are happy

L110[19:08:17] <Deddly> That has to be a reference to https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE&pp=ygUVd2hhdCBkb2VzIHRoZSBmb3ggc2F5

L111[19:08:34] <Althego> yes

L112[19:10:47] <xxcoder> interesting

L113[19:12:14] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtaekgVt9Q

L114[19:12:22] <Mat2ch> that is 11 years old?!

L115[19:12:25] <Althego> Hehehe's from Finnegan Fox

L116[19:13:42] <xxcoder> certainly looks happy

L117[19:14:13] <Althego> ksp 1.0 was about released 9 years ago

L118[19:15:31] <xxcoder> foxes get egged https://youtu.be/z8W0LSarQ8s

L119[19:16:03] <Althego> the simple explanation is, foxes dont have a single characteristic sound, and they are also not domesticated, so people never bothered to come up with a sound for them

L120[19:17:58] <xxcoder> pretty amazing. so many different foxes in that video

L121[19:18:32] <Althego> there are other animals there too

L122[19:18:53] <Althego> havent watched it for a while, there was a coyote too

L123[19:20:13] <xxcoder> gonna love how foxes run after getting egg

L125[20:14:41] <raptop> At least in some cultures, foxes supposedly say "kon kon". The ones around here mostly let out unearthly screams

L135[20:44:14] <FLHerne> in English it's usually "yip"

L136[20:44:31] <FLHerne> which is certainly one of the things they say

L137[20:57:07] <sandbox> yip yip yip

L138[20:57:49] <sandbox> that's martian