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L14[03:15:55] <ScholarRaptor> Wait ... JUICE has VGA cable connections!? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/MAGSCA_flight_model.jpg
L15[03:17:01] <xxcoder> whats it?
L16[03:18:41] <ScholarRaptor> It's a quantum interference sensor for the magnetometer.
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L19[03:24:36] <ScholarRaptor> It's kind of weird seeing a connection used on ye olden computer monitors on a space probe that most certainly does not have a ye olden computer monitor.
L20[03:28:51] <ScholarRaptor> Though I suppose using the old style makes sense because it can be securely fastened, which takes me back to NASA having severe issues in the 60's with multiple probes likely being lost to loose and/or debris-filled connections.
L21[03:40:32] <packbart> It's all Sub-D to me
L22[03:41:08] <packbart> äkshually D-Sub. huh. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature
L23[03:41:22] <packbart> I'll keep calling it the other way round :)
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L25[04:08:07] <ScholarRaptor> Compromise: D-Sub-D
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L29[04:50:23] <packbart> !nela
L30[04:50:24] <Kerbot> packbart => Falcon 9 - Polaris Dawn - Tue Sep 10, 2024 07:38:00 UTC (L-02:59:16) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/polaris-dawn for info/stream
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L44[07:43:41] <Judge_DedD> !mission
L45[07:43:41] <LunchBot> You draw the curtains on your launch window. You make it look like an accident.
L46[07:45:59] <FLHerne> Casually brushed against them with your shoulder?
L47[07:46:50] <xxcoder> HAH!!
L48[07:47:09] <xxcoder> ;mission
L49[07:47:10] <LunchBot> You forget to take off your shoes before putting on your pants... again. You fail the Voight-Kampff test.
L50[07:47:41] <xxcoder> oh yes order of dressing
L51[07:47:50] <xxcoder> dang im not human or kerbal
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L54[08:32:49] <Judge_DedD> !mission
L55[08:32:49] <LunchBot> Your rocket suffers from turbopump-rich exhaust. After three fruitless hours, you give up trying to get an encounter with Dres.
L56[08:33:38] <Judge_DedD> That would indeed scupper a trip to Dres
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L61[09:24:58] <Judge_DedD> !mextlunch
L62[09:25:04] <Judge_DedD> !nextlunch
L63[09:25:04] <LunchBot> Lentil soup.
L64[09:26:06] <Mat2ch> and Polaris Dawn is off the pad
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L66[09:58:29] <sandbox> !mission
L67[09:58:29] <LunchBot> You outsource the assembly of your rockets to the General Products Corporation. You are blinked out of existence by a sudden raptop.
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L72[11:38:15] <darsie> 13371338
L73[11:38:18] <darsie> oops
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L76[12:20:55] <Mat2ch> wanted to complain that all the youtubers I follow don't upload very often anymore. But then I saw the metal wizard has uploaded (Ron Covell)
L77[12:25:27] <darsie> Mat2ch: Are there salt and covalent wizards, too?
L78[12:26:13] <Mat2ch> I'm not sure.
L79[12:26:23] <Mat2ch> But there's probably someone dedicated to salt
L80[12:26:30] <darsie> ok
L81[12:33:36] <KrazyKrl> ;mission add Your zero-G waffleiron begins smoking, which causes a contaminated atmosphere to spontaneously turn the capsule into a coffin.
L82[12:33:36] <LunchBot> Added mission: Your zero-G waffleiron begins smoking, which causes a contaminated atmosphere to spontaneously turn the capsule into a coffin.
L83[12:34:13] <Mat2ch> !mission
L84[12:34:13] <LunchBot> Due to a clerical error, you're now on a trans-munar ejection burn. For all the resultant horror, grief, and pain, you put your differences behind you and try again. For science. You monster.
L85[12:34:53] <Mat2ch> Just because I started a crusade doesn't mean I'm a monster!
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L89[14:54:16] <sandbox> !mission
L90[14:54:16] <LunchBot> You replace your TPS with surplus ERA. The Sphinx of black quartz harshly judges your vow.
L91[14:56:50] <Judge_DedD> !mission
L92[14:56:50] <LunchBot> You stage an F1 race with "spare" Saturn V engines. Your space pizza noisily slaps toppings-first against the bulkhead, sending bits of pineapple in every direction.
L93[14:57:10] <Judge_DedD> I'll lick that up later
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L96[15:06:56] <raptop> !mission
L97[15:06:57] <LunchBot> The Konstructor convinces you to use more Rockomax Mk 55 engines on your craft. The SCE to Aux switch malfunctions.
L98[15:08:38] <Judge_DedD> Uh oh
L99[15:08:58] <Judge_DedD> I think that's more than pizzas splatting against the bulkhead there, raptop.
L100[15:11:08] <raptop> I'm pretty sure that we're just stuck on the pad from the lightning strike
L101[15:11:34] <raptop> Also, wow, remember when the Mk 55 and Poodle terrible?
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L108[17:44:24] <Judge_DedD> I do remember that, raptop, but I don't remember when they were improved. I remember using nine of them bunched together in threes as shuttle engines https://imgur.com/zbgGoPw
L109[17:44:43] <Judge_DedD> That was in 2017
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L111[17:46:22] <raptop> Looks like they were buffed in both 0.18 and 0.90, unsure if there were other changes
L112[17:46:35] <raptop> ...and 0.17 for that matter
L113[17:47:08] <raptop> Hrm, they must have had a post-1.0 nerf also, but that would have been in line with the other small engines, so eh
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L115[18:02:41] <Judge_DedD> Ah yes, I remember I picked them for their gimbal range
L116[18:02:53] <Judge_DedD> Moar gimbal = flyable shuttle
L117[18:07:09] <raptop> seems accurate
L118[18:07:47] <Judge_DedD> The tech level that save was at didn't give us anywhere near enough to unlock the real shuttle engines
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L120[18:10:46] <Althego> .mission add The heading bug bites you.
L121[18:10:46] <LunchBot> Added mission: The heading bug bites you.
L122[18:11:57] <raptop> Imagine getting bitten by a speedbug while flying a small aircraft
L123[18:14:04] <sandbox> !mission
L124[18:14:05] <LunchBot> There is critical shortage of ice cream. You need to go to Minmus. The discussion gets added to the fortune file.
L125[18:14:55] <raptop> hm
L126[18:30:12] <Judge_DedD> !mission add You build a shuttle using only parts from Jeb's Junkyard.
L127[18:30:12] <LunchBot> Added mission: You build a shuttle using only parts from Jeb's Junkyard.
L128[18:30:15] <Judge_DedD> !mission
L129[18:30:15] <LunchBot> You have no idea where you're going, but you start going there really, really fast. You simultaniously underfill and overfill the hbox, resulting in a badness of over 10000.
L130[18:30:35] <Judge_DedD> Is that the same as being bad_S?
L131[18:33:52] <raptop> Much worse. It means you broke LaTeX
L132[18:38:14] <Judge_DedD> !outcome add The outcome is over your head - both metaphorically and literally.
L133[18:38:14] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The outcome is over your head - both metaphorically and literally.
L134[18:38:17] <Judge_DedD> !mission
L135[18:38:18] <LunchBot> You take an unsettling passenger to the appointed Lagrange point. Bob succumbs to the Inevitability of Gradualness.
L136[18:39:47] <Judge_DedD> !mission add You feel that missions and outcomes require too much specific knowledge in order to comprehend.
L137[18:39:47] <LunchBot> Added mission: You feel that missions and outcomes require too much specific knowledge in order to comprehend.
L138[18:40:16] <Judge_DedD> Seriously, it's like someone constantly telling in-jokes.
L139[18:40:26] <Althego> .mission add You install Principia to go to a Lagrange point to perform La Grange there.
L140[18:40:26] <LunchBot> Added mission: You install Principia to go to a Lagrange point to perform La Grange there.
L141[18:41:04] <Judge_DedD> That one is good
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L143[18:43:21] <Judge_DedD> !outcome add Lagrange Kerman points at the spot where your orbit should reach a relatively stable equilibrium.
L144[18:43:21] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Lagrange Kerman points at the spot where your orbit should reach a relatively stable equilibrium.
L145[18:43:51] <Judge_DedD> !outcome add Just no.
L146[18:43:51] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Just no.
L147[19:05:06] <sandbox> !mission
L148[19:05:06] <LunchBot> You attempt to turn off your SRBs. Unfortunately this is KSP and you can't do that.
L149[19:06:40] <Judge_DedD> Oh. So IRL you would have been ok?
L150[19:08:35] <Althego> hehe no
L151[19:08:47] <Althego> technically you can turn them off by self destructing them
L152[19:09:06] <Althego> scott explained some icbms did that for precise shutdown time
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L156[19:28:43] <Judge_DedD> Yeah, that wasn't a serious question ;)
L157[19:29:09] <Judge_DedD> !mission
L158[19:29:09] <LunchBot> You screw maths, and brute-force it with a maneuver node and trajectories. You brake so fast that you break fast.
L159[19:29:29] <Judge_DedD> Before breakfast?
L160[19:29:50] <Althego> hehe
L161[19:30:10] <Judge_DedD> !mission add You eat breakfast.
L162[19:30:10] <LunchBot> Added mission: You eat breakfast.
L163[19:30:24] <Judge_DedD> I like to think that, one day, those two will line up
L164[19:31:26] <Judge_DedD> !fixup s/you eat/It's time for/
L165[19:31:34] <Judge_DedD> !fixup mission s/you eat/It's time for/
L166[19:31:41] <Judge_DedD> Hmm formatting
L167[19:32:10] <Judge_DedD> !mission fixup s/you eat/It's time for/
L168[19:32:10] <LunchBot> No recently-mentioned mission found matching "you eat".
L169[19:32:21] <Judge_DedD> !mission fixup s/You eat/It's time for/
L170[19:32:22] <LunchBot> New text is: It's time for breakfast.
L171[19:32:38] <Judge_DedD> !nextlunch
L172[19:32:38] <LunchBot> Laminated breakfast pork patty sandwich.
L173[19:33:21] <Judge_DedD> LAMINATED??
L174[19:34:09] <Mat2ch> macroplastics
L175[19:36:21] <Althego> hehe
L176[19:41:37] <Judge_DedD> !mission
L177[19:41:37] <LunchBot> Instead of playing KSP, you just sit back and listen to piano music. It's calming but sad. peer resets your connection to kerbnet.
L178[19:42:14] <Judge_DedD> !mission fixup s/peer resets/Peet resets/
L179[19:42:14] <LunchBot> No recently-mentioned mission found matching "peer resets".
L180[19:42:26] <Judge_DedD> wut
L181[19:42:36] <Judge_DedD> !mission fixup s/peer resets/Peer resets/
L182[19:42:36] <LunchBot> No recently-mentioned mission found matching "peer resets".
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L186[20:23:04] <packbart> "Deploying parachute. Deploying back-up parachute. Skipping parachutes." :-) Satisfactory 1.0 intro
L187[20:23:09] <Mat2ch> !outcome peer reset
L188[20:23:10] <LunchBot> You lose contact with mission control when peer resets your connection.
L189[20:23:16] <Mat2ch> !outcome peer reset
L190[20:23:17] <LunchBot> You lose contact with mission control when peer resets your connection.
L191[20:23:24] <Mat2ch> !outcome It's calming but sad.
L192[20:23:25] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "It's calming but sad.".
L193[20:23:30] <Mat2ch> !outcome It's calming but sad
L194[20:23:31] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "It's calming but sad".
L195[20:23:34] <Mat2ch> !outcome It's calming
L196[20:23:34] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "It's calming".
L197[20:23:37] <Mat2ch> !outcome calming
L198[20:23:37] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "calming".
L199[20:23:46] <Mat2ch> weird
L200[20:24:06] <Mat2ch> also 12 minutes burn time and for some reason the editor lost an engine somewhere?
L201[20:24:21] <Mat2ch> I'm pretty sure I installed 12, but in orbit I realized I've only got 11?
L202[20:32:59] <Pinkbeast> I hope it was one on the centreline
L203[20:40:41] <Judge_DedD> What craft, Mat2ch?
L204[21:00:35] <Mat2ch> https://imgur.com/a/9uDDFTu
L205[21:00:42] <Mat2ch> I relaunched it. Now I've got 12 engines.
L206[21:00:59] <Judge_DedD> Nice design.
L207[21:01:18] <Judge_DedD> But what's the point of redundancy if it never gets used? ;)
L208[21:01:19] <Mat2ch> But now I've realized that I haven't got enough fuel to go to Jool and get to Val...
L209[21:01:55] <Judge_DedD> Maybe you would have had more DeltaV with fewer engines ;)
L210[21:02:19] <Mat2ch> It begs the question: Why send a refueler, when you can't get it to where it should refuel? :D
L211[21:02:29] <Judge_DedD> But that's a shame. How far short are you?
L212[21:02:51] <Mat2ch> well, Mechjeb tells me it's 2000 dV just for the transfer
L213[21:03:51] <Judge_DedD> I was wondering if you could get an encounter with gravity slingshots and whatnot around Tylo etc.
L214[21:06:17] <Mat2ch> well, according to https://imgur.com/CHVnEeE the dV chart I should have enough fuel. But I haven't.
L215[21:07:40] <Mat2ch> fully fueled my transfer stage has 3800 m/s dV. But that's just enough to get an orbit around Jool...
L216[21:08:22] <Mat2ch> According to the chart it should be enough for an orbit around Val...
L217[21:09:42] <Mat2ch> Maybe I should make a pitstop at Dres...
L218[21:10:17] <Judge_DedD> 980+160+2810=3950 required if you aren't doing any atmospheric braking.
L219[21:10:42] <Judge_DedD> 3950 for LJO, that is
L220[21:13:07] <Judge_DedD> 2670 needed for Low Vall Orbit, according to the map. Are you landing that on there? That'll be 3530, so theoretically possible if you are launching during the optimal launch window and nail a great hoverslam.
L221[21:13:58] <Judge_DedD> But a little aerobraking around Jool never hurt anyone
L222[21:15:23] <Mat2ch> Uh, the landing stage has it's own engines :)
L223[21:15:29] <Mat2ch> But I need to get it there first!
L224[21:15:53] <Judge_DedD> Landing stage has its own fuel reserves too?
L225[21:16:19] <Judge_DedD> Then you should have easily plenty to get there... Hmmm.
L226[21:16:28] <Judge_DedD> Are you sure about your launch window??
L227[21:17:12] <Judge_DedD> You should have 1000 m/s left by the time you're in Low Vall Orbit
L228[21:17:19] <Mat2ch> Mechjeb makes a nice graph for the optimal launch time. So it won't get better
L229[21:18:05] <Judge_DedD> Somethings messed up
L230[21:18:08] <Mat2ch> But I'll try to get the whole thing as high up as possible over Kerbin and send a refueler to max out the tanks
L231[21:19:11] <Mat2ch> and then I'm going for a Tylo intercept to slow down.
L232[21:19:31] <Judge_DedD> Sounds like a good plan.
L233[21:19:44] <Mat2ch> but tomorrow evening. Today it's getting too late :)
L234[21:19:48] <Judge_DedD> Man I love Jool missions. Even at maximum time warp it feels like an epic journey
L235[21:19:55] <Judge_DedD> Have fun :)
L236[21:22:04] <Mat2ch> I have betterTimeWarp installed, so it doesn't take ages ;)
L237[21:22:37] <Mat2ch> I never had such problems with Jool. But I never sent things as big as my station or this miner there.
L238[21:22:49] <Mat2ch> *I've
L239[21:29:08] <Judge_DedD> I wonder if MJ is just miscalculating
L240[21:29:57] <Judge_DedD> Transfers don't take THAT long to Jool in stock. But they are just long enough to impress on you just how far you are going :)
L241[21:34:09] <Mat2ch> It's a rather good encounter, not sure how I could do it better
L242[21:39:24] <Judge_DedD> Good night
L243[21:39:27] <Judge_DedD> !mission
L244[21:39:27] <LunchBot> To adaptively control ballast of the spacecraft, you liquify the crew and feed them into the fuel tanks. Beware the Mice of Jool.
L245[21:39:54] <Judge_DedD> Yep, there's your solution.
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L248[21:57:16] <FLHerne> Deddly: laminated in the sense of being composed of many layers, I think
L249[22:02:33] <FLHerne> .ourco
L250[22:02:54] <FLHerne> .outcome add Fortunately this is KSP so you can actually do that.
L251[22:02:54] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Fortunately this is KSP so you can actually do that.
L252[22:03:08] <FLHerne> .mission get
L253[22:03:08] <LunchBot> The junior pilots are too busy second-guessing themselves to second-guess Jeb. Jebediah streaks through the atmosphere.
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L263[23:30:47] <ScholarRaptor> Stupid surge protector!
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