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L3[01:57:19] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L4[01:57:19] <LunchBot> You put rubber duckies in your fuel tank to more easily determine its current level. Pol germinates.

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L17[06:19:54] <Deddly> !nextlunch

L18[06:19:55] <LunchBot> Applesass, aspara-grass, chicken and a roast, dozen raw, plate of slaw, and soft-shelled crab on toast.

L19[06:20:36] <Deddly> I'm going to need a bigger toaster

L20[06:32:11] <Althego> noring company not flamethrower

L21[06:32:16] <Althego> boring

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L23[06:49:35] <Deddly> That would work

L24[06:50:43] <Deddly> !mission add You use cable ties to connect six Boring Company Not-A-Flamethrowers to your rocket as cheap boosters.

L25[06:50:43] <LunchBot> Added mission: You use cable ties to connect six Boring Company Not-A-Flamethrowers to your rocket as cheap boosters.

L26[06:54:04] <Deddly> !outcome add The rocket equation is not working in your favour.

L27[06:54:04] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The rocket equation is not working in your favour.

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L29[07:10:06] <Deddly> !mission

L30[07:10:06] <LunchBot> You wonder what that weird clanking noise is in your engine. The Deep Space Karen throttles Jeb, demanding to see his manager.

L31[07:11:19] <Althego> deep space karen lol

L32[07:19:32] <Deddly> That sounds like the plot of a horror film.

L33[07:23:24] <Althego> are you jeb's manager?

L34[07:25:30] <Deddly> Aren't we all?

L35[07:26:10] <Althego> so there is no middle management

L36[07:26:37] <Althego> at least you can tell off karen

L37[07:27:14] <Althego> you dont have a ticket, i ban you from this spaceship. guys, throw her out through the airlock

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L41[07:31:31] <Deddly> Then she'll demand to speak to YOUR manager

L42[07:31:53] <Althego> but you dont have one

L43[07:31:55] <Deddly> Of course there's no middle management. You're the one who directly assigns Jeb to a seat, right?

L44[07:31:59] <Althego> so it is iirrelevant

L45[07:32:04] <Althego> karen, you have no power over here

L46[07:37:08] <Mat2ch> !outcome add An angry Bavarian shoos you of the field.

L47[07:37:08] <LunchBot> Added outcome: An angry Bavarian shoos you of the field.

L48[07:39:57] <Deddly> !outcome add To your horror, you discover a Deep Space Karen on board. You tell her that she doesn't have a ticket and is banned from your craft but she refuses to leave. You activate the security protocols and she is sucked out of the airlock, her loud complaints echoing through the craft. Even in the vastness of space, some things are universal.

L49[07:39:57] <LunchBot> Added outcome: To your horror, you discover a Deep Space Karen on board. You tell her that she doesn't have a ticket and is banned from your craft but she refuses to leave. You activate the security protocols and she is sucked out of the airlock, her loud complaints echoing through the craft. Even in the vastness of space, some things are universal.

L50[07:40:04] <Deddly> Mat2ch, that should be "off"

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L53[07:47:23] <Deddly> !outcome fixup s/shoos you of/shoos you off/

L54[07:47:23] <LunchBot> New text is: An angry Bavarian shoos you off the field.

L55[07:47:35] <Deddly> !mission

L56[07:47:35] <LunchBot> You implement a recursive program in kOS. Cat fur is everywhere.

L57[07:47:58] <Deddly> I see no problem with this

L58[07:48:01] <Althego> i guess the cat fur stack overflowed

L59[07:50:56] <Mat2ch> Deddly: true. But it's "early" in the morning here and I slept at 23° C with 60-70 % humidity and my brain is cooked.

L60[07:52:04] <Deddly> Euuugh my brain is melting just thinking about that

L61[07:52:08] <Mat2ch> .oO( ACs? Where we are going we don't need ACs! - Every German boomer in a big old house looking down at the younger people )

L62[07:53:03] <Deddly> Mat2ch, to be fair, good insulation is way better than AC

L63[07:53:07] <Mat2ch> yeah, not allowed to install an AC here. Because I would have to make a whole through the outer wall and the insulation and the plastering

L64[07:53:21] <Mat2ch> I have good insulation. That's the problem. The heat doesn't go out anymore!

L65[07:54:17] <Deddly> Mat2ch, I assume you are renting? Have you checked with the owner? In most places, I think owners would happily allow home improvement like that and will even often pay you to do it.

L66[07:54:17] <Althego> build an environmental tent inside a room with ac in the tent

L67[07:56:34] <Mat2ch> Deddly: Not here. Here the plastering is more important than the renters health (even though it's cracking everywhere...)

L68[07:56:45] <Mat2ch> Althego: I really really thought about that already. :D

L69[07:57:41] <Mat2ch> And I have glas doors everywhere and no windows. Which are huge. And let a lot of heat in, even though I have the shades down. It's just crazy.

L70[07:58:17] <Mat2ch> I'm waiting for the law that'll allow me to install an AC and the owning company cannot say no anymore.

L71[07:59:25] <Mat2ch> .oO( And if you are wondering: Why aren't you just moving? Well, Germany has a huge housing crisis. We are missing around 800k to 1 million apartments... don't ask me where the other people live. Probably even worse )

L72[07:59:35] <Althego> hehe, global warming gets so bad there will be a law to protect people against big money interest?

L73[07:59:40] <Mat2ch> yes

L74[07:59:48] <Mat2ch> when enough people die of course.

L75[08:03:53] <Mat2ch> btw: Next week will be interesting. The same thing. But with 30° C!

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L77[08:06:12] <Deddly> Also, moving apartments in Germany is a nightmare because you often have to disassemble the entire kitchen, cabinets and all, and bring that with you to rebuild in the new place

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L79[08:07:11] <Deddly> Glass doors and no windows is a killer. That rules out the possibility of having a portable AC unit

L80[08:07:22] <Deddly> Well, unless you want to leave a door open

L81[08:10:52] <Mat2ch> yes :(

L82[08:10:58] <xxcoder> or turn door into stack of ac

L83[08:11:17] <xxcoder> seriously tho that sucks

L84[08:11:38] <Althego> already 27 max here

L85[08:11:40] <Mat2ch> I thought about having the glass in one of the windows replaced by a board, where I can cut into.

L86[08:11:42] <Althego> but lower humidity

L87[08:11:46] <Althego> 37C

L88[08:13:08] <Deddly> Do you have an extractor unit in the kitchen or any ventilation ducts that remove air from the apartment, Mat2ch? I wonder if it would be possible to rig something to that?

L89[08:14:47] <Mat2ch> Deddly: I thought about that. But it's reaaaallly sketchy

L90[08:15:25] <Mat2ch> also the air has to come from somewhere. So most likely from the outside as well. A split unit would be so much better. Also cheaper.

L91[08:19:57] <Deddly> Well yeah, but it sounded like that wasn't an option

L92[08:20:32] <Deddly> Do you have any ventilation coming from directly outside?

L93[08:20:36] <Mat2ch> nope

L94[08:20:46] <sandbox> in Scotland, air conditioning isn't a thing

L95[08:20:58] <Deddly> Not even through a little slat over the glass doors?

L96[08:21:19] <Mat2ch> that's the funny part. I have extraction fans in the kitchen and bathroom, but no place where air could flow in.

L97[08:21:31] <Deddly> In Sweden, AC is EVERYWHERE because people are installing heat pumps as an efficient heating solution

L98[08:21:39] <Mat2ch> I envy you.

L99[08:21:53] <Mat2ch> how are the house prices in Sweden? :P

L100[08:22:00] <Deddly> Oh I, personally, don't have one, so don't envy me. But envy me for living in a cooler environment :)

L101[08:22:31] <Deddly> Mat2ch, house prices in Sweden range from expensive in the cities to ridiculously cheap up north, 30 mins from town

L102[08:23:05] <Mat2ch> I need faster internet and a grocery store nearby ;)

L103[08:23:22] <Deddly> You can get a great little house in the country for 40,000 euro up north

L104[08:23:34] <Deddly> Fast internet is available everywhere here

L105[08:25:41] <Mat2ch> how about mosquitos?

L106[08:26:27] <Deddly> One word: Thermacell

L107[08:27:13] <Deddly> Put one of those out 15 mins before you want to be outside and pretty much all the mosquitoes are gone.

L108[08:27:40] <Mat2ch> does it come in 1000 l containers? :D

L109[08:28:21] <Deddly> Or, for a more permanent solution, there are propane-powered mosquito killers that you leave on for the whole season and they'll gradually reduce the mosquito population to almost non-existent for a square kilometre

L110[08:28:40] <Mat2ch> doesn't sound very environment friendly though

L111[08:29:42] <Deddly> It's only environmentally unfriendly in the sense that mosquitoes are great pollinators, so if everyone has one of those machines, it can be a problem. But very few people have them.

L112[08:31:08] <Mat2ch> yeah, we need to get rid of the blood sucking mosquitos. All others are good to have around.

L113[08:31:49] <Deddly> Well, there's the gas as well, of course.

L114[08:32:05] <Mat2ch> Uhm, is power really so cheap in Sweden? I found this https://statsskuld.se/en/elpris

L115[08:32:24] <Deddly> Yes

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L117[08:32:46] <Deddly> In the south, it's sometimes more expensive. In the north, it's cheap

L118[08:32:54] <Deddly> But normally it's cheap all over Sweden

L119[08:33:44] <Deddly> Those prices are in SEK and don't include taxes and fees, but you'll normally pay 1 to 2 SEK per KWh

L120[08:34:13] <Deddly> How much is it in Germany?

L121[08:35:41] <Mat2ch> 30 to 40 Cents/kWh

L122[08:36:04] <Mat2ch> so 3.5 to 4.5 Krona

L123[08:36:17] <Deddly> Ouch

L124[08:37:00] <Mat2ch> I see lots of cheap houses in Kronoberg ;)

L125[08:37:13] <Deddly> I think the highest it went during that winter when all the electricity prices went up all over Europe was 6 SEK

L126[08:37:38] <Deddly> Kronoberg, eh? Nice!

L127[08:38:21] <Deddly> What's a cheap house to you?

L128[08:38:53] <Mat2ch> 50000 EUR

L129[08:39:11] <Mat2ch> 550000 SEK I guess

L130[08:39:17] <Deddly> Didn't realise they were that cheap down there

L131[08:39:29] <Deddly> Smaller towns, I guess.

L132[08:39:33] <Mat2ch> They all need a complete makeover

L133[08:39:44] <Deddly> Oh right

L134[08:40:00] <Deddly> Just make sure you're looking at houses that are for year-round living, not just for summer.

L135[08:41:40] <Mat2ch> I can't afford to move right now. But dreaming a bit is nice.

L136[08:44:42] <Deddly> It is :)

L137[08:45:37] <Deddly> Back to the AC thing... apartments over here almost always have small ventilation slats above every window to avoid radon buildup. You don't have anything like that?

L138[08:46:17] <Mat2ch> found the perfect house. It sits on an island in a sea.

L139[08:46:50] <Mat2ch> Nope. No radon buildup if the basement is sealed against it.

L140[08:47:16] <Mat2ch> we're talking about a building complex with > 100 apartments

L141[08:47:28] <Deddly> Aaw

L142[08:47:41] <Deddly> I'd like to see the house on the island. Link?

L143[08:49:11] <Mat2ch> Deddly: https://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/150605601

L144[08:50:23] <Deddly> Ooooh that's awesome

L145[08:50:27] <Mat2ch> could be far enough from the shore to be secure from zombies. :D

L146[08:50:57] <Mat2ch> *safe from...

L147[08:51:04] <Deddly> LOL

L148[08:51:31] <Deddly> !outcome add You crash far enough from the shore to be safe from zombies.

L149[08:51:31] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You crash far enough from the shore to be safe from zombies.

L150[08:53:39] <Mat2ch> are there houses you are only allowed to live in during summer? Or are those houses just not equiped to be lived in during the winter month?

L151[09:15:40] <sandbox> !mission

L152[09:15:40] <LunchBot> Wernher claims to have a plan to turn the entire astronaut complex into a rocket... You count the lights, twice, just to be certain. You still get the wrong answer.

L153[09:21:30] <Althego> hehe

L154[09:33:48] <Mat2ch> There are four lights!

L155[10:26:18] <Deddly> Mat2ch, there are some summer houses that are built in areas where all the services are turned off for the winter. But most of the time, it's just a matter of lack of insulation, electricity etc.

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L161[11:38:26] <darsie> 1337

L162[11:38:29] <darsie> no

L163[11:53:42] <Deddly> !outcome add You miss the critical 13:37 launch window by one minute and you never live it down.

L164[11:53:42] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You miss the critical 13:37 launch window by one minute and you never live it down.

L165[11:57:36] <Deddly> !mission add Y0Ur W311D3516N3D 1337 r0CK37 15 574ND1N6 0N 7H3 14UNCHP4D W4171N6 F0r 4 V3rY 5P3C1F1C 14UNCH 71M3

L166[11:57:36] <LunchBot> Added mission: Y0Ur W311D3516N3D 1337 r0CK37 15 574ND1N6 0N 7H3 14UNCHP4D W4171N6 F0r 4 V3rY 5P3C1F1C 14UNCH 71M3

L167[11:57:56] <Deddly> I like to think that, one day, those two will match up.

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L170[13:44:06] <darsie> Sometimes there are long launch windows, e.g. to GTO or further.

L171[13:44:52] <Althego> and sometimes they are instantaneous as they call tehm

L172[13:45:17] <darsie> Those are less likely to launch at 1337.

L173[13:46:07] <darsie> How long are launch windows to the ISS really? Can't be just an exact time.

L174[13:46:15] <Mat2ch> !mission

L175[13:46:16] <LunchBot> You execute a series of precision maneuvers, leaving your craft exactly where you wanted. The rest of the mission is halted by the flood limit.

L176[13:46:31] <Mat2ch> But but but

L177[13:52:20] <Deddly> Sent too many commands, now your IP is blacklisted

L178[14:09:57] <Mat2ch> That will only stop me for a while!

L179[14:20:18] <KrazyKrl> ISS launch windows are very short, since the ISS orbits at like a 52 degree inclination.

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L185[16:29:43] <Deddly> !mission

L186[16:29:43] <LunchBot> You set out to increase the flammability of snacks. The Klingons write an opera about it.

L187[16:30:31] <Deddly> I can only assume I weaponised these snacks and defeated a powerful enemy in an epic battle

L188[16:41:04] <KrazyKrl> you used lighter fluid instead of ghost pepper, and are now taking a permanent vacation in Sto'Vo'Kor.

L189[16:42:51] <Deddly> What's ghost paper?

L190[16:42:58] <Deddly> Oh PEPPER

L191[16:43:25] * Deddly gets his eyes checked

L192[17:39:58] <Eddi|zuHause> <KrazyKrl> ISS launch windows are very short, since the ISS orbits at like a 52 degree inclination. <-- but i guess they repeat very often. it's like catching a train that goes every half hour. no use getting there 5 minutes late.

L193[17:40:55] <Deddly> Not exactly. ISS doesn't pass over the same ground repeatedly

L194[17:41:46] <Eddi|zuHause> so you get a few launch windows in a row, and then nothing for a few days?

L195[17:41:52] <Deddly> Eddi|zuHause, https://www.reddit.com/r/woahdude/comments/n7u9nh/the_iss_orbit_visualized_on_a_map_of_earth/

L196[17:42:57] <packbart> hm. I'll call my large booster "Windowmaker"

L197[17:45:42] <Deddly> Eddi|zuHause, so it looks like the ISS covers the same location around every three days. I guess there's a potential launch window that often, assuming you have a launch license for it

L198[17:46:41] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but you might have enough room to fudge it one orbit earlier or later than the optimal launch window

L199[17:51:10] <Deddly> Yeah, depending on your available Delta-V

L200[17:52:17] <Deddly> As far as I know, though, launch windows to the ISS are instantaneous.

L201[17:53:10] <Deddly> I mean historically

L202[17:53:56] <Deddly> But I'm probably wrong. Someone on Stack Exchange says Shuttle had a 10-minute window, so...

L203[17:54:59] <Deddly> !outcome add You get into a discussion about the exact length and frequency of launch windows and miss yours completely.

L204[17:54:59] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You get into a discussion about the exact length and frequency of launch windows and miss yours completely.

L205[17:55:09] <Deddly> !mission

L206[17:55:09] <LunchBot> You spread the disco fever. The remainder of the crew are internally referred to as "red shirts".

L207[17:55:45] <Deddly> Well that's fever for you. Unless you're one of the main characters, you're a goner.

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L209[18:19:05] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L210[18:19:05] <LunchBot> You manufacture your idea for a new Type II superconductor, but it proves to be a Type II supernova instead. Look at me still talking when there's science to do.

L211[18:42:17] <Eddi|zuHause> imagine the science you could do if you can manufacture supernovae

L212[18:52:05] <Deddly> Indeed

L213[18:55:28] <Deddly> !nextlunch

L214[18:55:28] <LunchBot> Kielbasa and fried potatoes.

L215[18:56:04] <Deddly> I actually think I have eaten that

L216[18:56:54] <Eddi|zuHause> "Kielbasa is any type of meat sausage from Poland" that sounds very generic

L217[18:58:17] <Deddly> I guess it's like "bangers and mash"

L218[18:58:31] <Deddly> In the sense that the exact type of sausage is not important

L219[18:58:47] <Deddly> !lunch add Bangers and mash

L220[18:58:47] <LunchBot> Added lunch: Bangers and mash

L221[18:58:53] <sandbox> volcano bakemeat

L222[18:59:16] <Eddi|zuHause> but what differentiates a polish sausage from a german sausage?

L223[19:00:06] <Deddly> ChatGPT says Polish sausage (kielbasa) and German sausage (Wurst) are both broad categories encompassing a variety of regional and cultural variations.

L224[19:00:20] <Eddi|zuHause> that's a zero-content sentence.

L225[19:00:30] <Deddly> It's only the intro

L226[19:00:41] <Deddly> Ingredients:

L227[19:00:42] <Deddly> Polish Sausage: Typically includes pork, sometimes beef or veal, and is often seasoned with garlic, marjoram, and pepper. It can be smoked or fresh.

L228[19:00:42] <Deddly> German Sausage: There is a wide variety, but popular types like bratwurst often include pork or a mix of pork and veal, seasoned with spices like nutmeg, coriander, and white pepper.

L229[19:01:00] <Deddly> Texture and Flavor:

L230[19:01:00] <Deddly> Polish Sausage: Known for a coarser grind and a robust garlic flavor, often with a hint of smokiness if smoked.

L231[19:01:00] <Deddly> German Sausage: Texture can vary from smooth to coarse, with a range of flavors depending on the region and specific type. German sausages may have a milder taste compared to Polish sausages.

L232[19:01:02] <Eddi|zuHause> it's what a politician would say if he doesn't really want to say anything, but has to fill space to sound politically involved.

L233[19:01:07] <Deddly> (It goes on)

L234[19:02:48] <Eddi|zuHause> so, both are primarily pork based, and smooth texture is more common in german sausages.

L235[19:03:20] <Deddly> Assuming ChatGPT isn't just making it up.

L236[19:03:33] <Eddi|zuHause> that's a wild assumption.

L237[19:04:07] <Deddly> I learned from ChatGPT

L238[19:08:51] <Eddi|zuHause> apparently in austria there's a sausage type called a "polish sausage"

L239[19:09:10] <Eddi|zuHause> whether that has any relation to actual sausage from poland, i cannot tell.

L240[19:12:37] <Eddi|zuHause> also, austrian sausage names might not match wider german naming.

L241[19:17:55] <Deddly> Huh.

L242[19:18:30] <Deddly> I could totally go for a proper banger right now

L243[19:33:33] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L244[19:33:33] <LunchBot> Bob trips the main circuit breaker while running both capsule's rotisseries simultaneously, violating established mealtime procedures. Tonight we dine in space!

L245[19:34:25] <Eddi|zuHause> will be a very luxurious meal.

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L249[20:15:48] <raptop> !outcome add You are termination shocked.

L250[20:15:49] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You are termination shocked.

L251[20:43:12] <xxcoder> ;mission

L252[20:43:12] <LunchBot> You describe a 9-SRB rocket as highly unrealistic and unlikely to see much use. BadRocketsCo complains about the mission spam.

L253[20:43:20] <xxcoder> sorry? lol

L254[20:45:57] <raptop> hm, meta

L255[20:46:08] <raptop> And yes, the mission part is a joke about the Delta

L256[21:00:37] <Deddly> !mission

L257[21:00:37] <LunchBot> Your plan to transport nuclear fuel by nuclear-powered train to a nuclear power plant somehow goes wrong. Space Kraken starts to attack your craft, but Peer accidentally kicks it out on its bid to kick you off!

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L259[21:12:53] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L260[21:12:53] <LunchBot> Jeb uses your new Mun rocket as a firework, so you strap 134,000 fireworks together as a replacement Mun rocket. This takes so long that you finish just before JWST launches.

L261[21:13:29] <Eddi|zuHause> hey, getting 134,000 fireworks aligned correctly takes as long as it takes.

L262[21:27:31] <raptop> You can tell how long that outcome has been there because JWST launched in what, december 2022?

L263[21:28:06] <Eddi|zuHause> it's the duke nukem forever of space missions

L264[21:29:25] <minas_tirith> Eddi|zuHause, what happened to certs

L265[21:30:31] <raptop> minas_tirith: like with this server? They lost access to some stuff but have since regained it

L266[21:30:32] <Eddi|zuHause> ?

L267[21:30:41] <raptop> (they being the actual admins running it)

L268[21:36:21] <sandbox_> !mission

L269[21:36:21] <LunchBot> You steal saké from Fucc. Your kerbal goes flying off at about 7x light speed.

L270[21:46:28] <raptop> meanwhile on Jupiter: https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.13222

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