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L6[01:00:29] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L7[01:00:29] <LunchBot> Jeb demands a Stetson hat that fits over his helmet. You aerobreak at Eve.
L8[01:00:59] <Eddi|zuHause> that checks out
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L11[01:30:31] <XXCoder> lol
L12[01:30:34] <XXCoder> ;mission
L13[01:30:57] <XXCoder> thats a miss hmm
L14[01:31:28] <XXCoder> backup one worked
L15[01:31:29] <XXCoder> I rechecked amount left anmd its 14 dollars. ill just have connor buy what he want and rest will be on tues.
L16[01:31:30] <XXCoder> You sent
L17[01:31:30] <XXCoder> I think connor saw amount of money at costco but thats before mcdonalds
L18[01:31:39] <XXCoder> bah paste fail
L19[01:31:54] <XXCoder> <XXCoder> ;mission
L20[01:31:55] <XXCoder> <LunchBot2> You achieve a concussion so bad that you think to yourself: "If I light my lighter, my lighter gets lighter." The mission's stakeholders are furious, but the steakholders are too busy eating to care.
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L108[01:39:31] <Eddi|zuHause> so, rescuing a guy from mun orbit, and rescuing a guy and their pod from LKO, in one mission... which order is better?
L109[01:41:07] <XXCoder> best is "yes" with bigger rocket
L110[01:41:19] <XXCoder> oh order lol
L111[01:42:41] <XXCoder> if you do lko last, you have smaller and more easy to match orbit ship I would think
L112[01:43:01] <XXCoder> unless youre good enough to match orbit on launch anyway
L113[01:48:31] <Eddi|zuHause> ah, it's actually not LKO, it's somewhat higher...
L114[01:52:22] <Eddi|zuHause> i try mun orbit first, and see whether i can reach the other orbit from there
L115[01:52:39] <Eddi|zuHause> can always skip it and do another launch if i run short
L116[01:53:32] <Eddi|zuHause> you know what would be cool? timing it so that i can rescue the guy from a mun flyby :p
L117[02:01:24] <Eddi|zuHause> could always try intercepting the second pod from mun orbit directly, or via aerobraking
L118[02:01:46] <Eddi|zuHause> kinda difficult to use aerobraking for exact maneuvers
L119[02:18:52] <Eddi|zuHause> man, almost... there's a 10km separation from mun flyby
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L121[02:28:49] <Eddi|zuHause> oh... 0,3km
L122[02:28:55] <Eddi|zuHause> relative speed 277
L123[02:29:31] <Eddi|zuHause> needs to get out and RUUUUUN :p
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L126[02:44:14] <Eddi|zuHause> i should still enter an elliptic mun orbit, makes it easier to figure out an efficient intercept maneuver for the second pod
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L129[04:21:51] <Eddi|zuHause> i should set up a seismic sensor to measure impacts from returning rocket stages
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L132[05:20:28] <Eddi|zuHause> so, i successfully rescued the mun orbit guy, and i should have plenty of dv left for the other
L133[05:22:45] <XXCoder> nice
L134[05:23:46] <Eddi|zuHause> it somehow didn't complete the "put a station around the mun" contract
L135[05:24:32] <Eddi|zuHause> oh right, missing antenna
L136[05:24:51] <Althego> hehe
L137[05:24:56] <Althego> easy to forget
L138[05:25:04] <Althego> just as a parachute
L139[05:25:55] <XXCoder> lol
L140[05:26:24] <XXCoder> i remember hat old ksp comics. it had one where thy successfully land rover on mun
L141[05:26:29] <XXCoder> and it has no cameras. forgot
L142[05:31:09] <XXCoder> https://u.cubeupload.com/Bjh223/19EnlIH3f.png
L143[05:31:14] <XXCoder> found it
L144[05:31:38] <XXCoder> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/profile/204948-ben-j-kerman/?status=10355&type=status rest of comics
L145[05:32:56] <Althego> there was one where the rocket explodes the kerbal screams and dies. then reset. and somehow he feels fear, but does not know why
L146[05:33:21] <Eddi|zuHause> oh man that was close... i sent a probe to return to kerbin from a flyby of minimus... and i forgot to extend the antenna, so i had no probe control on final approach
L147[05:33:48] <Eddi|zuHause> but i already had a comsat orbiting minimus, so it regained control after approaching for a little bit more
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L149[06:18:03] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L150[06:18:03] <LunchBot> A mission critical event has formed. You are dubbed felonious by the laws of physics.
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L153[06:28:15] <XXCoder> tsk tsk physics criminal here
L154[06:28:33] <XXCoder> guality of channel have decreased a lot
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L169[11:39:58] <sandbox> !mission
L170[11:39:58] <LunchBot> You suggest that IKEA replace their Blåhaj line with plush krakens. LOOK, MUMMY, THERE'S AN AEROPLANE UP IN THE SKY.
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L173[12:58:30] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L174[12:58:30] <LunchBot> You tape down the trigger of your handgun, deciding to just use the safety to fire it. Your jets fail to start. Upon further checking, you discover that you installed aerospikes instead of shock cone intakes.
L175[12:59:07] <Eddi|zuHause> hm.... choco cone...
L176[13:00:55] <Althego> that is nowhere in the text
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L178[13:30:55] <Eddi|zuHause> the asteroid scanning contract is annoying, because it takes so long to reach the designated orbit...
L179[13:34:32] <Mat2ch> try catching one and bring it back to Kerbin. :D
L180[13:37:06] <dnsmcbr> F for KSP
L181[13:37:07] <dnsmcbr> 2
L182[13:38:28] <Althego> what happened
L183[13:45:01] <dnsmcbr> Apparently a layoff or sth?
L184[13:45:01] <dnsmcbr> idk
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L189[13:57:04] <raptop> Take Two etc job status: we don't know
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L191[14:01:08] <Eddi|zuHause> Mat2ch: no, i mean putting the scanning sat into the scanning orbit
L192[14:04:22] <Eddi|zuHause> does this look like a sane rover? https://ibin.co/80OOjSepTBf2.png
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L196[14:32:46] <Eddi|zuHause> annoyingly, the rear hatch counts as obstructed when i try to leave, but i can enter...
L197[14:35:53] <raptop> Kerbals check in. They don't check out.
L198[14:40:17] <Mat2ch> looks like a cutie
L199[14:42:59] <Mat2ch> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/224485-take-two-interactive-rockstar-2k-private-division-canceling-games-ending-projects-and-laying-off-5-of-its-workforce/
L200[14:44:55] <raptop> KSP2 status: we suspect that it's dead, but are waiting for clearer comments from the employees
L201[14:45:12] <Mat2ch> https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/take-two-confirms-kerbal-space-program-2-is-safe-despite-seattle-layoffs#close-modaln
L202[14:45:16] <raptop> It's, uh, 07:45 in Seattle
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L204[14:46:08] <Mat2ch> "A company spokesperson did, however, explain that its Private Division publishing label will continue to support Kerbal Space Program 2."
L205[14:46:33] <Mat2ch> Well, what does "continue to support" exactly mean? They didn't state it.
L206[14:47:32] <Mat2ch> Personally I wouldn't be suprised if they cancled KSP2 to payout the investors, but let's not go there yet.
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L208[14:51:15] <darsie> .
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L210[14:55:39] <darsie> Will it still be sold?
L211[14:56:05] <Althego> if they dont finish it, they could at least open source it
L212[14:56:13] <darsie> mhm
L213[15:01:01] <Mat2ch> As I said: Let's not go there yet. They are still saying that it is supported.
L214[15:01:38] <Althego> supported does not necessarily mean active development
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L216[15:11:08] <darsie> We could crowdfund buy it to make it open source.
L217[15:11:22] <darsie> FOSS
L218[15:11:23] <Eddi|zuHause> my headlights could be a bit stronger
L219[15:12:07] <Eddi|zuHause> "they could at least open source it" has this ever happened to a commercial game?
L220[15:12:20] <Althego> but if they deciude to abandon it
L221[15:12:22] <Althego> it is lost
L222[15:12:23] <darsie> I wanted to buy a 4060 Ti or A770.
L223[15:12:27] <Althego> also doesnt produce income
L224[15:12:36] <Althego> so technically they dont lose money by opensourcing
L225[15:12:47] <Althego> but it would be good for the community
L226[15:13:35] <darsie> Rolling a rocket on Minmus was cool. Some water came out from the ice cracks an it made a great sound.
L227[15:18:51] <FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause: Warzone 2100 is one example
L228[15:19:17] <FLHerne> and the engines (but not data/art assets) for original DOOM and Quake
L229[15:19:30] <Althego> id software does that
L230[15:19:37] <Althego> but only for the realy old titles
L231[15:19:46] <Althego> which didnt run on top of a modern game engine
L232[15:20:07] <FLHerne> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_video_games_with_later_released_source_code
L233[15:21:23] <Althego> tyrian was one
L234[15:21:36] <Althego> it was ported to everything later
L235[15:24:07] <Eddi|zuHause> it's probably a mistake to drive this thing in IVA mode :p
L236[15:24:34] <Eddi|zuHause> but so far i haven't had any problems
L237[15:25:26] <Eddi|zuHause> it doesn't "take off" every time there is a bump in the terrain
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L240[15:26:09] <Althego> my policy is to never go faster than 25 m/s
L241[15:26:23] <Althego> if you think about it, that is rally fast, especially on random terrain
L242[15:29:58] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but i've had no issue even beyond that
L243[15:30:13] <Althego> for now
L244[15:31:24] <Pinkbeast> KSP does have a lot of very flat terrain; my Elcano rovers topped out just over 40 m/s and I did most of it without reloading saves.
L245[15:31:25] <Althego> in general rovers become really unstable and can flip at higher speeds, but they are still slow compared ot a rocket. so i would rather make hoppers and land near biome limits and collect 2-3 biome worth of science on the moon, or all of them on minmus
L246[15:32:11] <Pinkbeast> (ofc cracking around at that sort of speed offroad isn't remotely realistic... but if you're going all the way around Tylo, sacrifices have to be made...)
L247[15:32:54] <Pinkbeast> I think I mean not so much flat as smooth changes of gradient
L248[15:33:38] <Eddi|zuHause> well "smooth" it is certainly not in the grasslands near KSC
L249[15:35:42] <Eddi|zuHause> cool, mechjeb has a rover speed control
L250[15:38:08] <Eddi|zuHause> the main problem with rovers is you can't quick/autosave while they are moving
L251[15:42:02] <Althego> that is annoying too
L252[15:42:15] <Althego> you have to lose time just to save
L253[15:42:21] <Althego> and even when you are going you are slow
L254[15:50:36] <Althego> i could never successfully make a duna plane
L255[15:50:59] <Althego> there was barely enough lift and tiny thrust from propellers
L256[16:01:30] <packbart> I'm lazy and use BonVoyage for longer rover trips
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L260[16:27:42] <KrazyKrl> ;mission add Your trans-synaptic injection burn gets cancelled due to weather.
L261[16:27:42] <LunchBot> Added mission: Your trans-synaptic injection burn gets cancelled due to weather.
L262[16:47:44] <Althego> .outcome optimal
L263[16:47:45] <LunchBot> Suboptimal.
L264[16:47:48] <Althego> .outcome optimal outcome
L265[16:47:49] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "optimal outcome".
L266[16:48:04] <Althego> .outcome trauma
L267[16:48:04] <LunchBot> You have suffered. minor. head trauma. This is considered. an optimal. outcome.
L268[16:48:10] <Althego> ah it is there
L269[16:48:40] <Althego> if i count it correctly i played through subnautica 9 times
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L273[18:07:15] <Guest08234> Howdy
L274[18:07:39] <Guest08234> How's it going folks?
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L277[18:11:10] <Eddi|zuHause> weird. the game crashed when i recovered my rover...
L278[18:11:22] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L279[18:11:22] <LunchBot> You mistakenly input minutes instead of seconds into the barbeque roll maneuver duration. Your second stage doesn't have enough DV.
L280[18:13:50] <XXCoder> way too long burn
L281[18:13:54] <XXCoder> ;mission
L282[18:13:54] <LunchBot> You outsmart HAL 9000 by telling it that you are the AI now. Nothing more hard exists in the universe.
L283[18:14:23] <XXCoder> 😳
L284[18:24:22] <Eddi|zuHause> it seems it saved the recovery and science from the rover before crashing...
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L287[19:08:23] <Eddi|zuHause> annoying... i want to have breaklights, but all the lights i can find have this loooooong fade-in/out
L288[19:11:35] <Mat2ch> I bet there's a mod for this.
L289[19:20:54] <darsie> brakelights?
L290[19:21:40] <Althego> hehe stupid english
L291[19:31:21] <Eddi|zuHause> probably :p
L292[19:31:36] <Eddi|zuHause> why is this surface sample drill so gigantic?
L293[19:32:00] <Althego> made for rovers
L294[19:32:11] <Althego> there is a smaller one, but that doesnt have all the science
L295[19:46:35] <Eddi|zuHause> i was just going around KSC, now i have to do it again for the surface drill :p
L296[19:49:09] <Mat2ch> hehehe
L297[19:49:47] <Althego> so many microbiomes
L298[19:50:01] <Althego> actually considerable science there for the early game
L299[19:52:52] <Eddi|zuHause> and when you upgrade buildings more appear
L300[19:53:08] <Althego> with new microbiomes
L301[20:02:25] <darsie> I've used KSC science if just a few points were missing for something.
L302[20:11:42] <Eddi|zuHause> that happens all the time
L303[20:12:00] <Eddi|zuHause> now, i think i'm done refining this rover... time to get it to the mun
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L305[20:27:48] <darsie> Stops happening when the tech tree is complete ;).
L306[20:31:41] <FLHerne> #]
L307[20:47:25] <Eddi|zuHause> i've not ever finished the tech tree
L308[21:18:13] <Eddi|zuHause> how could i forget to put lightstrips on the rover...
L309[21:55:27] <XXCoder> you are likely to be eaten by grue'
L310[21:56:07] <XXCoder> ;outcome add You forgot to add lightstrips on rover and got eaten by grue.
L311[21:56:08] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You forgot to add lightstrips on rover and got eaten by grue.
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L313[22:35:43] <Eddi|zuHause> shouldn't it be "a grue"?
L314[22:36:08] <Eddi|zuHause> (i've actually no clue where that really comes from, i've only ever seen it as a fixed reference)
L315[22:37:21] <Eddi|zuHause> (i'm assuming it's from the text adventure age)
L316[22:42:07] <Eddi|zuHause> i should actually try launching this
L317[22:48:07] <XXCoder> grue have been in few games, my quote above is exact one
L318[22:48:47] <XXCoder> odd. site i see it from didnt have an a
L319[22:48:51] <XXCoder> but most does. wtf
L320[22:49:21] <XXCoder> ;outcome fixup /grue./a grue./
L321[22:49:22] <LunchBot> Format for `fixup` should be s/<old>/<new>/
L322[22:49:26] <XXCoder> ;outcome fixup s/grue./a grue./
L323[22:49:26] <LunchBot> New text is: You forgot to add lightstrips on rover and got eaten by a grue.
L324[22:55:42] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause: In some text adventures you get eaten by a grue if you walk around in darkness (too much).
L325[22:56:16] <darsie> Like infocom adventures.
L326[23:00:29] <Eddi|zuHause> that makes sense, probably.
L327[23:10:31] <Eddi|zuHause> i double, triple, and overcorrected the com/col, but it still flips over...
L328[23:59:37] <darsie> planes are finnicky in ksp ...
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