L1[00:00:54] <Pinkbeast> darsie: That's a nice screenshot

L2[00:04:22] <darsie> :)

L5[00:48:13] <Izzy> 1680x1050 :3

L6[00:57:41] <darsie> :)

L7[00:57:53] <darsie> Why didn't anyone tell Tamara to plant a flag on the Mun?

L8[01:01:11] <Pinkbeast> 1280x960 thank you

L9[01:01:37] <Izzy> Mmm, now I want to see KSP on the eMac's CRT

L10[01:01:54] <Pinkbeast> I dunno about an eMac but that's how I see it on my tube

L11[01:03:51] <darsie> There are still tubes out there?

L12[01:04:15] <Pinkbeast> My monitor is bigger than yours. (In the third, useless, dimension.)

L13[01:04:33] <Pinkbeast> I've got two working spares in reserve. Then maybe I may have to give up.

L14[01:05:06] <Izzy> I have an AIO eMac running Linux that I use as an emulator for a computer in a game

L15[01:05:22] <Pinkbeast> Izzy: Oooh

L17[01:05:41] <Izzy> (linux for hardware, the emulator runs as PID 1)

L18[01:06:20] <Izzy> fun fact! with all the optional stuff enabled, a linux kernel is too big for yaboot to cope with; need to keep the kernel under 16M

L20[01:07:42] <darsie> .outcome add You rip the old monitor out of the instrument panel, smash the front and use it as emergency electron propulsion thruster.

L21[01:07:42] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You rip the old monitor out of the instrument panel, smash the front and use it as emergency electron propulsion thruster.

L22[01:08:06] <Pinkbeast> "as an emergency" ...

L23[01:08:32] <Pinkbeast> (I lack the LunchBot-fu to edit these, sorry)

L24[01:08:47] <darsie> .outcome fixup s/as/as an/

L25[01:08:47] <LunchBot> New text is: You rip the old monitor out of the instrument panel, smas anh the front and use it as emergency electron propulsion thruster.

L26[01:08:57] <darsie> hmm

L27[01:09:03] <darsie> .outcome fixup s/as an/as/

L28[01:09:04] <LunchBot> New text is: You rip the old monitor out of the instrument panel, smash the front and use it as emergency electron propulsion thruster.

L29[01:09:06] <Izzy> on the upside, I can strip the kernel down to like, the disk subsystem, and the ofw framebuffer, because the emulator doesn't currently support networking or any form of storage other than the vfs it already has

L30[01:09:22] <darsie> .outcome fixup s/emergency/an emergency/

L31[01:09:22] <LunchBot> New text is: You rip the old monitor out of the instrument panel, smash the front and use it as an emergency electron propulsion thruster.

L33[01:28:33] <umaxtu> Izzy, what emulator?

L34[01:30:02] <Izzy> umaxtu: LuPi2 with some patches for PPC https://github.com/StarChasers/LuPI2

L35[01:31:03] <umaxtu> neat

L45[04:03:05] <XXCoder> ;mission

L46[04:03:05] <LunchBot> You attempt to build a 50 tonne VTOL. The fire alarm keeps going off. After resetting it three times you send Mitdun Kerman to fix it. He reports back that he can't access it because the cargo bay is full of smoke. You reset it seven times more until it melts and stops going off. When Bill wakes up and asks about the smoke you tell him the fire alarm is faulty.

L47[04:03:38] <XXCoder> wow thats one long conquence

L48[04:08:38] <raptop> Sometimes fires cause a lot of consequences

L49[04:09:02] <Althego> fire in the sky

L50[04:09:27] <XXCoder> ;outcome add Everything is fire now.

L51[04:09:27] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Everything is fire now.

L52[04:12:18] <raptop> ;mission add You decide to set things in fire instead of on fire.

L53[04:12:18] <LunchBot> Added mission: You decide to set things in fire instead of on fire.

L54[04:13:26] <XXCoder> fancy

L66[09:10:02] <Izzy> Moon base phase 2: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/3540.html

L68[09:30:14] <sandbox> We're off to Button Moon. We follow Mr Spoon

L69[09:35:23] <sandbox> the theme music was by Peter Davison and his (then) wife

L70[10:23:51] <FLHerne> sadly this long consequence is from a real accident report

L71[10:32:36] <Mat2ch> Reminds me of a neighbour of mine. There's water in the basement. Well, better close the door and leave.

L72[10:48:46] <Mat2ch> Just a quick thought... how much does Polka and Dubstep have in common? ;)

L95[16:34:38] <Mat2ch> Has anyone ever built a craft with the inflatable heat shields that didn't flip around?

L96[16:35:18] <Althego> i did

L97[16:35:28] <Althego> common trick is the put one on the other end too

L98[16:35:34] <Althego> but i never used that

L99[16:35:54] <Pinkbeast> Mat2ch: Sure, let me dig up some screenshots

L100[16:37:39] <Pinkbeast> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/ksp/toeve-10-fire.png mind you this one has an inline ballute to keep it pointed the right way

L102[16:39:00] <Althego> hehe it is hufe

L103[16:39:02] <Pinkbeast> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/ksp/tovall-1-aerobrake.png this one doesn't, though.

L104[16:40:33] <Pinkbeast> As far as possible I've transferred the remaining fuel up front (and there's a stack of Orion magazines there to deliver, which are _very heavy_) - so just like anything else, mass up front, draggy tail at the back. (Both are in a FAR world)

L105[16:42:11] <Pinkbeast> IDK that keeping right-way-forward needed me to drag those fins through the vacuum all the way to Laythe, but I'm glad I did it.

L106[16:44:54] <Pinkbeast> huge> but not Tweakscaled, that's a size the author of "Inline Ballutes" thought was sensible

L107[16:46:37] <Pinkbeast> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/ksp/aftereve-1-fire.png # another one with no ballute; the object on the other end is the realistic lift version of the Hooligan Labs inflatable airship envelope.

L108[16:47:03] <Pinkbeast> But again, the mass is cuddled up as close behind the heatshield as it can be

L109[16:48:44] <Mat2ch> I guess I should bring some dead weight ;)

L110[16:49:18] <Pinkbeast> Mmm. Easy for me on that Eve lander, where the weight is the takeoff stages.

L111[16:53:03] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L112[16:53:03] <LunchBot> You strand Jeb in orbit and force him to watch bad sci-fi movies. Internet Explorer 6 fails your download.

L113[16:53:20] <Eddi|zuHause> no movie for jeb, then.

L114[16:54:29] <raptop> In which Jeb can't even engage in retrocomputing

L115[16:58:05] <Mat2ch> Well, this is, again, for an Eve lander... :D

L116[16:58:23] <Mat2ch> And mayyyyyybeee I should use a different design to land it

L117[18:04:57] <FLHerne> .outcome add You discover a planet where in some biomes they speak Kerbal, but backward.

L118[18:04:57] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You discover a planet where in some biomes they speak Kerbal, but backward.

L119[18:05:56] <FLHerne> with the inflatable shield you need all heavy stuff to be pretty much a pancake behind it

L120[18:06:11] <FLHerne> or fairly extreme 'tail surfaces' as above

L121[18:10:47] <sandbox> they've only just fixed this bug "Scientists rename human genes to stop Microsoft Excel from misreading them as dates" https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/6/21355674/human-genes-rename-microsoft-excel-misreading-dates

L122[18:15:44] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: Preposterous. Nobody would dare to speak Kerbal backwards. It would summon the Nekark.

L124[19:10:02] <raptop> "The Nekark" would be a good monster for a fantasy RPG

L125[19:23:39] <Mat2ch> There seems to be one in WAKFU

L126[19:24:46] <raptop> hrm

L128[20:56:19] <Mat2ch> !mission

L129[20:56:19] <LunchBot> You build a generation ship, but because Kerbals don't die of old age the population grows exponentially. You become an entry in Derek Lowe's blog.

L130[20:57:23] <Mat2ch> Probably some drug that kills Kerbals or doesn't let them procreate

L131[21:00:47] <raptop> Okay, *technically* it's a medical chemistry blog, but we both know why that outcome is actually there

L132[21:07:43] <FLHerne> .mission add You push tech advances at a rate faster than ethics can sometimes maybe keep up with.

L133[21:07:43] <LunchBot> Added mission: You push tech advances at a rate faster than ethics can sometimes maybe keep up with.

L136[21:09:39] <Mat2ch> Oh, come on, nobody would do that.

L138[21:17:15] <FLHerne> .outcome add Oh, come on, nobody would do that.

L139[21:17:15] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Oh, come on, nobody would do that.

L140[21:23:50] <raptop> lol

L141[21:25:04] <Mat2ch> I demand royalty payment!

L143[21:25:51] <XXCoder> ;outcome add Out of billions of alternate histories, in two, mission was a success!

L144[21:25:51] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Out of billions of alternate histories, in two, mission was a success!

L145[21:26:14] <raptop> !outcome fixup s/mission/the mission/

L146[21:26:14] <LunchBot> New text is: Out of billions of alternate histories, in two, the mission was a success!

L147[21:26:28] <XXCoder> thanks

L148[21:27:25] <Mat2ch> raptop: That would be enough for a villa next to the KSC. Not sure if I want to live there, though.

L149[21:36:38] <raptop> hm

L150[21:37:06] <raptop> I guess you could always try for one of those hidden 1.12.something bases

L151[21:37:18] <raptop> (...were they 1.12? I don't recall)

L152[21:41:16] <Mat2ch> Anything near anywhere where Kerbals can fly to is unsafe.

L153[21:46:22] <raptop> You'd think that after all these years, kerbals would have learned to listen to Scott Manley...

L157[22:23:25] <Eddi|zuHause> well, obviously "fly safe" is like "don't spit on the ground". you only need to say it if people do it wrong all the time.

L162[23:07:54] <darsie> My favorite landing site: http://0x0.st/HJGX.png

L163[23:17:32] <darsie> Oops, I forgot a chute.

L164[23:29:13] <darsie> .outcome add This was just a simulation.

L165[23:29:13] <LunchBot> Added outcome: This was just a simulation.

L166[23:49:07] <FLHerne> darsie: what's the shiny cone on the ground next to the NTR?

L167[23:49:18] <FLHerne> presumably some science widget

L168[23:49:51] <FLHerne> it's a neat site